Bussin' With The Boys - Taylor Lewan Is Finally BACK + Dan Lanning On Why He Didn't Take The Alabama Job

Episode Date: April 23, 2024

Recorded: April 18th 2024 | In this weeks episodes the man, the myth, the legend, Taylor Lewan is all the way back with the boys. Taylor recaps his time is Mexico and issues an apology to all the fans for not being with us this past month. Following the intro, Will sat down with head coach of the Oregon football team, Dan Lanning. The guys get into how Lanning got to the position he is at now, taking lower paying jobs because he knew that in doing so, it would help him long term. He talks about his different stops along the way, the coaches he has learned from, and why he decided on passing on the Alabama job. Coach Lanning is a fan of the pod and you can tell he gets the vibes of the boys. Enjoy fellas. 0:00 Intro 0:49 Taylor is back 17:12 Shane Gillis Hit Up The Boys 34:11 Chandler Going Away BBQ 34:42 Oregon Recap 50:02 Potential Fall Tour Spots 52:52 Kirk Cousins, Bad Guy? 55:13 Hair Talk 1:01:56 Shoutout Apps 1:30:35 Inches or Pounds? 1:36:36 Lanning Preview 1:41:54 DAN LANNING INTERVIEW STARTS 1:41:22 Driving 13 hours On A Whim 1:44:42 Paying His Dues 1:45:53 Is It Everything He Thought It Would Be? 1:47:01 Getting Your Priorities Straight 1:49:18 Being Under Coach Norvell 1:49:57 One Job That Changed It All 1:52:36 Biggest Ass Chewing He Has Received 1:55:19 Learning Each Step Of The Way 1:56:58 Interview Process For Becoming A Head Coach 1:58:58 Alabama Opening 2:01:29 Reading Books As A Team 2:02:34 Surprises In Being A Head Coach? 2:05:08 Coach Lanning's Version Of The Beer Olympics 2:08:43 Teaching Someone To Think The Way You Think 2:10:03 Bo Nix, The Babysitter? 2:10:30 Crazy Recruiting Stories 2:13:22 What Coach Would He Want To Play For? 2:14:56 What Actor Would Play Him? 2:16:39 "They're Fighting For Clicks, We're Fighting For Wins"For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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How did the ad re feel? I felt great. I felt real good as I was going and I was like, it's weird. There's no stumbles. And as soon as I thought that, boom, we got one in. And it was nice. Do you like the papers? Yeah, I like the paper.

You know my eyes. Yeah. And I struggle real bad with the eyes. So that was a nice deal. I feel like it would have been helpful. That was very helpful. I do appreciate that. Couple things for you.

One, wasn't in the jungle. I was in Mexico City. Two. It sounds better. If you're not on the beach in Mexico, you're in the jungle. I was in the lower part near Guatemala. That's where I was near like Costa Rica kind of area. And it's also not New Mexico City.

New Mexico is in the States. I was in actual Mexico City. I said New Mexico City. Yeah. And that's okay, brother. Because you're a Missouri cat and that's what you do. It was on me a couple weeks ago because I said, what was it, Memphis?

was in Memphis was in the North East part of Tennessee. Yeah. He said that? That's the opposite side, but... There was a piece of me, too, that was also working out in my head. I kind of noticed. Yeah, you did see it. Because Knoxville's east, right?

Knoxville is... Memphis is west. And Memphis is southwest. Southwest. They're the polar opposites. Right, and the Nashville's in the middle. North, like the northern middle. We can pull up...

Relative. No, no, no, no. I just went to the relative. Memphis and Knoxville. Technically, but Nashville's also more north. Would you call Nashville Middle Tennessee? Yeah.

Okay. Then that's what we need right there. Oh, dude, you're like, we'll look at the maps again, which you do not need to bring back up. Boys, I am so fired up

to be back on this bus with you guys. It's been chaotic for our brand. Yeah, it's been, it's been a shit show. It's been bad for the brand. It's been bad. It's been bad out there.

I know how much you've seen. I don't know how much you've seen. I'm assuming. You've seen quite a bit, but it's been, we've taken a lot of shots. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I even tweeted last night. I feel like it's my first day of school. Can't wait to see the boys.

And then people are like, boo. You're a piece of shit. And I was like, damn, brother. The boys are still mad. I did apologize. Because I wanted to do a tweet, hey, Delaney and I, we got a great guest on today, Taylor Leone, but I was like, I don't want to, you know, I don't want to kick a guy while he's down. It was interesting because, like, obviously there was the shit show.

And when I got to Mexico, you know how it was. Like, I had like, hardly any service. service anytime you and I tried to talk I'd have to call you back four separate times in four separate locations just to just to get something done and I get there and I'm not really thinking of it because my logic was well I've taken literally six months off at the pod for football before like this is probably nothing like that I was it was a it was an innocent thought process that ended up not and and along those lines as well like again when you do do those things we've always pivoted We've always like, hey, we'll figure it out.

That was like the first thing I said to you. I was like, yeah, bro, that'd be sick. Like, we'll figure it out. Yeah. Don't worry about the spring tour. We'll figure it out. And then obviously hindsight's 20-20 and we're kind of thinking through it a little bit more. Like, okay, we could have went about that way more.

Yeah. A lot different. And like, yeah, the brand itself could have gone about it a whole lot different. Me personally, like when I get to Mexico and I go to sleep, I wake up and I have like a text come through around 10 a.m. Or something like that. It's like, it's from you saying, hey, you should probably say something in the internet. and I don't know because I took I took my social meeting and this is something the thing that I was doing which it's so lame that I can't talk about it because I I'm gonna yeah NDAs

But also like I'm like hey I was doing something and it's like but I can't say what it is now it's you're about to make a Like a box office. Yeah, which is like no, it's not that It's not a it's not a Quentin Tarantino movie or anything like that if it was I would break that in the day and make tell all of you immediately that is the coolest thing of all time But this opportunity was something I've never done before. So I was like super focused on it. I told Sherman, I was like, hey, man, here's my password. Here's my username. Sherman is a guy who works with us.

And I was like, can you just post bus and stuff and just make sure that like, because I really want to focus on this for that month that I'm gone. And when I saw your text being like, hey, you probably should say something, that's another thing that like I'm an idiot. Like, why wouldn't I be the first one to say, hey, I'm sorry. I'm not at the spring tour. I'm sorry that I'm not at busing, blah, blah, it's literally like Will, my dad putting his son behind his back going, listen, he's doing the best he can. And I put that out because we hadn't said anything here.

I know, I know. If I think about my individual, I should have just been direct because I sent that we were sending voice messages back and forth. And I was like, hey, I kind of talked about, I kind of said something on the bus or whatever. I didn't say too much. It'd be good if you like put out a video or something. Kind of just said it. without being like, hey, you need to put out a video. You should say something before I say something.

Then when it was nighttime and nothing had happened, and I know we were back and forth on face. I was like, I got to put something out because we're about to cancel this live show. And I'm going to just, it's going to be bad. It's not going to be good. And then everybody thought we canceled the live show because I wasn't there. But before I left, the live show was like, hey, we've sold the only couple of tickets. So, yeah, yeah, there were a few things.

Because South Carolina, we had a low number. And then the place told us that, hey, there would be a lot of people. people show up day of when we had the push back not the pushback but kind of like the the the disgruntledness from Dave on like hey like this is the bussing with the boy spring tour not busing with the boy spring tour right and was like I get it you guys have a backup plan and everything else but when sales sells this stuff and they think the brains think it's you guys and then all of a sudden Taylor's not on half of it then it's like you know they might not it'll rub the sales people the

wrong way because they don't want to stick their neck out and sell for you guys because they don't know if you guys are going to both be showing going up. So that thought going into, we've sold a lower number of tickets was kind of like, okay, we can punt this one, get one in Nashville, which we know what will be on our own backyard. You'll get to do another one. So instead of doing one live show, now you get to do two out of the three. Yeah. It was kind of like that whole combination of like, hey, load tickets. I don't know if Delaney's coming with us yet. I'm riding this thing solo. I'm trying to figure this thing out. You know, Dave had good points about, you know, all this stuff with the spring.

tour and everything else. So it's like, this to me would be better because it's almost like, you know, if we got 15, 20 fans showing up for a live show when we could go in Nashville, like we shoot ourselves on the foot being in every corner of America trying to push live show tickets. When we're just trying to get interviews for the head coach and players, it's like we can do one where we know we'll sell more. Like it'll be bigger. It'll be better. Yeah. Versus like you swing the camera around. Like we may, we still did a meeting greet, which was a lot of fun. I feel like people were like walking away like, oh, that was sick because we got to talk with you guys and hang out versus just listen to a show yeah sit in the back room then do a show

then go back to the back room type thing obviously on the surface it all looks bad it looks you know not good i had some people it looks bad and i had somebody who told me they drove down from canada and i was actually like fuck man i felt so bad about but then i come to realize like this dude's just a troll and he's just been somebody that's like been negative in the comments before yeah because i'm like feeling bad i'm like god i know this will in the big picture this is like a better move on being like okay, we're going to do a live show in our own backyard versus like show up for the 15, 20. Like, we're going to make this work and give them our all like when we're there. Have twisted teas.

Like, do the whole song and dance. Delaney was awesome. But, uh, yeah, it was, it was, you know. It could have been handled so much better. It's like, you, I think once we realized we fucked up as far as like telling people in advance, you did a great job of working everything. I really dropped the ball being with my focus somewhere else

could have done a much better job of like speaking more on it being there before saying something like and taking accountability. It was a really, it was a tough go that first week. I remember being tight. And I also did,

I didn't look at social media a whole lot, but I was gone for 30 days. And if I, every time I checked social media, there was a new clip from Barstool, someone commenting on it or a new something or a new this. Unnamed show.

show we're fucking PFT made a joke about it Well because while you're gone It's like Travis backs out of the beer Olympics last week like we're having all These things and it just boom boom Domino after Just been a turbulent couple of months

Yeah Turbulent couple of months So if we're like I'm now So I jump off social media and then I come back And I keep I peeked me on the curtain But I don't see the whole context The point I was like yo is this not Have we not Barstool like gotten over this yet?

like I like legit got tight about it for a second. Barso got over. Like just they all, like when we get more, like when I show up to minigolf and Dave's like, I'm out of beer Olympics. Yeah. Oh yeah.

And you call me on that. I'm like, all right, dude, whatever. Like, we got a full core pressure. Yeah. Dave back in Beer Olympics.

He's texted. He said he's quadruble down that he's out. And the thing too is like, we were wrong. Like, we were wrong. Mostly I was wrong. Like I handled it horribly.

But when I'm going to peek back to the owner, I'm like, man, I can't believe this. like this is still got to be talked about this much like is we messed up we're trying to do better but it's like human beings are the only creatures in the entire world that'll beat themselves up after making a mistake dog shits in the house you put your dog's nose in it dog goes back to being a dog it's over depends on how hard you hit them yeah no question that is true it depends

I don't know what life you're living but not me not me human beings just constantly beat yourself up beat yourself up I think you and I do a good job when we do mess up Dave and Buster's being a good example we have a lot of examples especially in the football world when we mess up you you look at it you navigate it you're like okay where do we go wrong and then you try to re-correct and course correct but then it's really hard sometimes when people are like but you did this but you did this but you did this yeah and that's how it felt to me a little bit when I was like you know 23 days in to being in mexico and I peep behind the curtain again once again not getting contacts and it's like these guys like yo I was like we're trying our best it's not one of those things like if we're in like

we're getting coached in ball because we're obviously getting critiqued literally every day whether it's talk to coach tard cuss out coach softly whatever it is it's not like when you do make a good play your coach also follows up with hey but remember when you fuck this play up don't do it again yeah you're like damn i can't even enjoy like that was like in the world of the internet it's like people hold on people hold on and remind you like if you make a good play and then another bad one comes where you make good one be like ah you know but taylor he bailed he's out i know I know, bro. And they just remind it over.

And I just, every time I saw like a Taylor bailed, I was like, there was a piece of me that kind of hit me. I was like, damn, dude. I didn't bail. I'll see some comments. I know. He's probably seeing these and it just blows. It just sucks. Because you do like at the, like, how many conversations do we have?

I'm like, hey, I don't, I want to make sure I'm not letting you down. You're my best friend. Right. I want to make sure you're cool with this and all these conversations over and over again. And then you see it and you're like, there come the insecurities. We're right down the barrel. And it's just kind of like, oh, fuck, dude. Jack had a good point. Did we talk about it on the episode or wasn't more in like a team meeting?

You bring up the point of like, you know, when we do pivots, like there's been times or whether it's from it's from the knee or something's got to shake up training wise, I got to go train here or when you're, hey, I'm going to do the podcast. A game happens. Okay, let's not. We'll go solo. Like all the times we kind of handle it. Oh, you remember when he was in football. Right, right, right. Either of us doing anything. I think as like a fan's perspective, when you were full time, in the NFL playing. Same here. Same will to. The benefit of the doubt to when you had six months to take off, that was what you had to do. Now that I don't know what you're playing is with football, let's just say for hypothetically.

Let's say hypothetically. Hypothetically, you're done. That means that this is now your number one priority. So the fans are not going to give you as much leash anymore on missing stuff. So I think right now is a great opportunity, even though you might not believe it. but to apologize to our fans for not being here for the last month. Have I not spent the last...

Hey. I think it's been a little bit of a back and forth. Oh, okay. If there's been zero clarity, you're actually right. I just know that there's some fans out there. I'm going to as soon as you're done talking. I just think there's fans out there that are like yelling into their fucking speakers. Like, come on.

Like, just say you're fucking sorry one time. So, and that's not me. No, Jack. Yeah, yeah. He was bringing a... You were saying... Do you want me to... Can I apologize?

Does you want me to do it? Hey, hey, apologize. Hey, it's all good. I'm thinking of the South Park episode where the dude's like bending down over the desk. He's like, go ahead, kiss it. Apologize. Busting fans.

I know I've spent the last 14 minutes on here explaining the thought process of how everything went. I want you guys to know that never have I ever tried to slight any of you one way or another. And I have never intentionally tried to hurt any of you people by taking myself off of the bus

or hurting this brand by going to do something completely different that I've ever done in my entire life and for that I am so sorry I feel like seeing the backlash and seeing everything

I've really let you guys down in ways that I didn't know I was letting you down and that is a horrible feeling because sometimes you just go through life and you don't realize some of the people you might be hurting along the way and if I hurt any of you

by not being on this bus and not being around the boys I am so sorry I could have handled it better. And in the future, I will handle it better. If other things happen where I do leave for a couple of weeks, I will make sure and tell you the moment it's even a possibility that it happens and be completely transparent with you.

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Buy tickets now. We actually, Shane Gillis. I know Jack, I think Jack went based on the GameTime app. But game time, the best. Dude, Shane was solid. Yeah, Shane was fun. Shane was a good time. Interesting friendship with Shane.

He lets us know basically Texas Friday. No, Saturday. The day of. Yep, Saturday more, Saturday, let's say 12.30. And he's like, bros. Ian's coming to the show tonight. Yeah, or tomorrow. 6 p.m. or he actually said 7 and 10.

7 and 10 p.m. If you don't come, I probably won't go to beer Olympics. Yeah, bro. And I was like, I guess I'm going to the show. We did go. We went Sunday. We went to the 6 o'clock show. It ended up being 6.

They said it was 7, but it was actually 6 after the barbecue. And it was fantastic. It was a really good show. new material that he's working through right now and it is it's funny it's interesting to see too because even after he's like i got like what the first 20 minutes are solidified i feel good about the first 20 minutes everything else is storytelling and trying to work stuff out yeah and it was interesting to see that like after hearing him say that and then reflecting back on the show like the like him just literally in front of a sold-out stadium working through jokes yeah yeah stadium the rhymin yeah stadium the

rhyming a historical church yeah absolutely i mean it that's a going out there and you see a couple levels like you're like you're saying you reflect back and think of those times he is kind of working through it because he does such a great job playing with the crowd yeah like this great job you don't like that one okay okay this was okay but that wasn't yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he didn't like that one then you're gonna think this next one's just all hate speech yeah yeah but it was it was it was really good the boy was on he's on man he's he's number one in the world right now i had to sit on his text on yin's coming of the show, if not I'm out of beer Olympics because my own

projectile ability of thinking of the recent Ls we've been taking. If we lost Shane, it would be... Not only that, but just the way like that we're bros and he's playing with my heart and he doesn't understand everything that's kind of sitting behind my heart at the moment. So when he was saying that

and kind of dangling it, and I'm just thinking like, bro, stop fucking around like this. Because I had to call him. I had to call him last week because we're doing our Beer Olympics meetings are a beer games championship of the world we're doing those meet we're doing those meetings and i see that he's one of the only boxes kind of not checked and he's kind of one of the guys that like you know we met like we want him there like one of the core guys that we want there

and i'm thinking like fuck he hasn't responded to you know bar still reaching out because they're kind of handling all this stuff they wanted to do gift gift baskets and the whole deal it's going to be incredible i saw that he hasn't he hadn't responded again um leases like hey could you reach out i was like yeah i'll reach out to Shane and i'm just thinking you know because you don't want to bug him. You don't want to bother him because he's doing his thing. And we obviously text back and forth. Like, we're in our group chats and everything else.

And so I just call him. And I was like, he's like, what's up, bro? And I was like, guess where I'm at right now? He's like, where? I was like, I'm at a gun shop. And I'm going to purchase one and kill myself. If you don't commit or respond or give us some type of answer, if you can come to beer Olympics or not.

And he was like, we sat there for a set, and he goes, do it. He's like, he's like, why, why are you pressing me? I'm like, bro, there's, there's so much money going into this thing. And everybody, everybody, we want to take everybody. We want to do it, right? Right. And are people, everybody that's working on it behind the scenes,

they're trying to get head counts and know who's going to be in or out. And he was talking, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to spoil. Don't spoil. Don't want to do any spoilers right now. The last thing we're going to do is put out any expectations. Yeah, or put out. of expectations just put the pressure on everybody else because the moment that uh because i've backed out i'm throwing out lines we're texting back and forth like hey so and so

might come i see literally quentin nelson up under the travis kelsey thing saying next man up mentality with the eyes so i immediately text quentin like hey are you you trying to do it i'm not gonna confirm nor deny if quentin Nelson might be coming but uh yeah bro i mean we're we're trying to get our ross around it out it's going to be i'm telling you this thing is going to be fucking awesome. Right. But going back to the shame thing, I had to sit on the, I'm like, all right, how, how, we'll just take a, take a moment.

How are you going to respond to this? How are you going to take a breath? He's putting this expectation of what are we finding out from our bro that he is in Nashville currently without, you know, ahead of time. Part of me thinks he's trying to, he doesn't want to do too many podcasts. Probably going to come on the bus, which is fair. Yeah. But it all worked out.

We had a great time with the boy. Got to meet Gary Clark. Yeah. One of the, Gary Clark Jr. Yes, bro. Yes. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, he was just chilling, sitting in the, I didn't even know who it was.

And he was kind of just hanging out. It took me a minute, too. And Shane was like, you know that's Gary Clark, right? Like, one of the greatest musicians in the world, guitar player. And then by the time I left, I was like, hey, bro, it's so nice to meet you. I know my dad would be so hype. In my dad, he's, what do you call it? He dabbles a little bit in the guitar.

He loves guitar. What do you call it? What's that thing? What's that thing that people have been playing universally forever? He, uh, he slaps the bass. He slaps the bass. He doesn't. He plays the guitar

He rips the guitar He rips the fucking guitar I'm not gonna that's no cap bro I'm telling you my dad's no cap Fucking rips the guitar Your dad does yes Really matter of fact next time he comes out We need to make him do it Yeah I will buy a guitar and make sure it's in his hands

By the time he walks in the door There's nothing you can do now I'll have it sitting in front of a case of beer Where he's got a he has to touch the guitar Just to get to the beer Nice chair speaker that's already plugged in Tuned up guitar will have like earn or somebody he makes sure it's tuned up and a 30 rack of bushlights sitting there like nowhere to go down

and a whole bunch of chew yes and a spittoon yes yes and he has to play he has to play has to play I need you guys to hear him yeah but that uh that car Gary Clark Gary Clark Gary Clark Jr dude so I didn't know really about that at all and then yeah we found out and in the car ride home JP me JP and Michael Chandler were ripping on the way back to my spot and we were playing it that dude can fucking shred and he was just kind of chilling like didn't give a didn't care like more just asked questions about bars so was barso

he's like so is barstle everywhere I was like yeah it's on the internet yeah yeah yeah he's like because we kept talking about Shane and it brought up

Survivor and he we were talking through a couple other things like when he had me shotgun high noons on the on the stream with Drive Kings and since we're sitting there

talking about barstool stuff Gary was like so is bar still just everywhere and Taylor Taylor looks at him and it's like I mean it's on the internet yeah it's everywhere

he's like no no no no He's like, I mean, is there a place that everybody goes? But, no, it was, it was sick to me. What you got there? The Lucy, you all? No, I'm sorry. I got a couple of, I got a couple of espresso's in right now. I have a Shane story.

Yeah, because you went on Saturday, yeah? So I messaged him on Instagram on Saturday with no intention of getting tickets. And I was just like, good luck your shows this weekend. Not even thinking he's going to see the message or respond. He responds like five minutes. He's like, come through tonight if you want. I had four friends in town. And I was like, I really appreciate that.

But I was like, I have a bunch of friends. And, like, day of show, I don't want to be the guy asking for five tickets. So not a big deal. And he's like, it's all good, bro. He's like, we can, like, make that work, blah, blah, blah. He's like, it's like, it's five tickets, right? And then I had miscounted one of my friends that also brought her friends. I was like, actually six.

But I was like, seriously, not a big deal. Like, it is too much. And he's like, what's your email? I'm going to find it. And this is at, like, 4 p.m. on Saturday. So I was like, guys, like, if y'all want to go to the show, like, 9.30 tonight, I think we can do it. So we're all fired up. And by the time it's like 8.45 rolls around, I'm like, he's still in his 7 o'clock show.

He just never hit me back. And I had, like, gotten all the people hyped at this point. Oh, I thought you went. Yes. And now I'm hearing JP went last night. And now my ego is double. Oh, damn. I'm sorry, bro.

And it hurt. I thought you went because when I took a minute to. response to Shane calls. He's like, hey, I know you guys are coming. And it was kind of like giving me a run around. He's like, your boy Jack's coming tonight. And then I did a little like, hey, make sure you tell him not to post a lot. And he's like, oh, that's what you guys got him for, blah, blah, blah. So we were joking. But I thought you went that night. Because if not, I mean, Mitch, I know we didn't necessarily, I'm thinking in my head, spring tour interviews. You have to get them done. That's just a fair statement. You got us

a dirt back down. That's huge. Yeah. My family in town. When did they leave? They're still here. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's a reason too. All I'm saying, Jack, if I would have known you didn't go. Yeah, I totally would have. I'm not like, if anything, I felt really bad for my friends in town because... You got him hyped up. Well, there was a moment in time where I was like, it's Shane Gillis, like, sold out.

I saw tickets going for $1,200 at the Ryman on Saturday. So I was like, so I was like, the fact that I'm even, like, asking for six tickets, it feels a little scummy. And I know he doesn't feel that way. It was nice enough for him to respond at all. but like at some point when he was like dude what's your email i was like guys we're fucking in like they were fucking fired up they're like why is shane messaging you and i'm like dude he's just a friend to work like like and then by the end of the night i had to just fucking lay on my sword and i was i wasn't mad at all i was just like my ego was so bruised i was

like bro no doubt because you got all everybody hi yeah and they were like like the girls were like we don't give a shit like we don't know Shane really and i was like this Oh, you were hanging with chicks. Everything new. Oh, it was like four girls and two guys. Oh, man. They probably would not enjoy themselves. Yeah, we talked about this situation in Oregon.

Yeah. But it's, I'm glad. I heard all the shows went well. I had a bunch of friends who actually bought tickets and said that, was Theo there on Sunday night opening or was that just Saturday? I think it was Saturday. Because I said, Theo's stories. He did like a 15-minute opener for the both sets on Saturday.

Oh, really? Yeah. but that's all I really know about it dude uh hyped it was fun I was gonna say during your story I was literally thinking to myself because I thought that at the end of the story you were gonna get the tickets and go

that is the best possible way you could ask somebody for tickets by being like hey man I got five people with me don't worry about it just wanna let you know I hope you crush it yeah that's right that is you give them the number yeah you give them everything

and then you just let them come do the thing without saying can I have tickets I know now I'm like there's still like an unread message between me and Shane that at some point down the road he will probably see and be like probably like not acknowledge it and I don't want it to be like

him think I'm upset about it Oh you got to check him as soon as you see him As soon as you see him you got to say something No I'm just I'm just hyped Four shows at the Ryman is a big deal So I think that's really cool Big time yeah Dude I had a situation when I was in Mexico

A bunch of the office alignment from Michigan They hit me up Zinter hit me up and he's like yo Shane Gillis, he's going to be in Saginaw Michigan. We got to go. Can we go? Can you talk to him? Just blatantly asking me.

And it's the same thing. Like any of our boys that does something that where you have to purchase tickets to go see them, I always get uncomfortable about being like, hey, these people want to see you. Do you mind letting them in? And so I kind of put it off for a minute. But shout out Zinter. He was shameless about it. He just kept asking and asking.

And I was like, all right, I'll ask him. So I text Shane. He's like, no problem. loves the big boys loves the big boys loves the big boys so I had him up and then it was like the day of and my service was so bad all day so I'm like sporadically getting messages from zinter and kegan these dudes and I think they're like six dudes with them total yeah and uh they end up getting to the show all hogs all hogs they end up getting to the show and they're like in the show and they're like we want to meet them like how do we go meet him after this and I was like you should have passes

like they should have you guys a pass something like oh we don't have anything like, can you text him? I'm like, is he on stage right now? And they're like, yeah. I was like, then he's not going to answer a text. Like, what are you talking about? Like, but. Just young cats.

20 minutes later, dude. 20 minutes later, I get a FaceTime from Shane. He's with all the boys. Oh, let's go. Hits the pan. He's like, got the big boys with me. He got the big guys. You know, he was in heaven.

Loves the big ones, man. Apparently they cut it up that night too. So that was a big win for my boys in Michigan, my national champions. Bro. So, you. I had Levis text and ask, like, hey, could you connect me with Shane? Maybe going to one of his shows.

And I was either on the move or something, but I felt kind of like, you know. No? Yeah, not no, but it made me. I didn't feel like at that moment, I wasn't like, I didn't want to get hit up Shane. Like, hey, do you mind if I give your number, you know, to Will and stuff like that? I don't think he would have cared. I think you would have loved that probably. I think so too.

Yeah, yeah, just because, yeah, he's a football guy. But for whatever reason, I was on the move, so I was kind of like fleeting in my brain and I forgot about it. And then a couple days later, like Will comes back right. He's like, hey, all good, bro. I ended up getting in touch. And I'm like, oh, fuck, I should have looked out for the boy. It's an uncomfortable position to be in. It really is.

Because I've done it before. And I don't want to, like, it's like, you don't want to sit there and feel at any point you're ever, you're ever trying to like take advantage of one of your voice. Especially like you said, like when it's not you going. Right. Like when it's not you doing it. But even like, I like it when one of my boys is like, hey, so-and-so is trying to get a hold of you, can I give them your number? Yeah.

And I'm like, yeah, I appreciate it. It's always going to be yes. For sure. It's always going to be yes. But just that little extra mile for me is nice. And it's like, it's just a little something. Right. Right.

Which you kind of like. You just don't want to give out people's numbers. And too, if you're not, like, say you haven't texted with them in a while. You know what I mean? Yeah. One text is like you're asking for something. Right. And it's been like.

The only person I honestly, don't really think a whole second effort about it is jelly roll because I'm like yo jelly roll jelly roll take care of anybody and everybody. Yes. I'm not saying the other guys wouldn't but I just know if jelly roll if he happens to see your message because he doesn't check his phone very often.

He has 1,400 text messages unread on his phone. Bro, he had a I had a couple of my boys from back home that I was in high school with homies and they're like hey we're going to the jelly roll concert in St. Louis you think you could get us a couple tickets and I text jelly like hey could you get these guys whether their nosebleeds really doesn't matter if you can just get them just to go see though these kids are one of those things i ain't want to i don't want to it's like you don't want to take a mile when you feel like your boy's kind of giving you something yeah yeah like saying hey if you if anybody ever wants to come like let me know i'll take care of them and i get a photo

the boys are backstage with them fucking getting high you gave them jelly you gave them jelly you gave them jelly roll's number no no no i end up going back and forth with jelly joe's like oh yeah let me know their names i'll get them fully taken care of and then i think i connected them with one of like his people got you got you but then i get a photo and they're like They're hitting a blunt with them in the back. Dude, that is so, though. Just having the greatest time of their life. That is so sick. That really is all time, man.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No. You want to hit the, we got some drag. Yeah, dude. The A2 game preseason is in the books and it's fun. No, you're that's, you've read the right things. You're good. Why we're laughing then?

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Back to this episode. Let's go. I said eight two. We're back. I said eight two. I don't know if you did. I don't know if you did. I literally just laugh because Jack laughed.

It's almost like when you see somebody yawn and you just hit a yawn. Yeah. I get it. I get it. So I just joined it. Had to get a part of that. But yeah, did a good weekend. Also anniversary weekend.

We had that little barbecue before for a lot of, I get it. Michael Chandler celebrating him getting his big fight with Connor McGregor. I'm sure you guys talked about that already, yeah? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Because, yeah, we talked about it the week after the announcement. We obviously, we're ready for that boy to get in that octagon with Connor McGregor. We'll have to do the same thing we did for 299.

What was that? Go interview the boys. Talk to Connor. Talk to Mike. Sit down. Could you imagine? That would be nuts. Getting to interview Chandler?

Yeah, that would be. Taylor, you would have loved Oregon. Dude, yeah, Will was telling me about it a little bit. Oregon, fun fact, but Oregon, that was a school that I legitimately wanted to go to. Like, I was going, I wanted to go to Oregon and commit to Oregon because that was like the height of their Nike uniforms. And when I got offered by them, I was like, done. We're going to Oregon, boys. That's what we're doing.

So you got, you had Oregon. I had Oregon. I had Oregon. So my dad had this thing. He's like, hey, I want to go to all the, I'm going to go the official visits with you, blah, blah, blah. Like, it was kind of like his way being like, we're going to work this out together type. thing, but every time Oregon came up about going to see them, there was always some sort of travel conflict with him, could never make it. And then I went to Minnesota and I almost

committed to Minnesota because you know me, I'm a honeymoon-faced type of guy. I'll just jump in. I'm getting better quick. Yeah. I was going to be a gopher. And then I went to Michigan and I was like, yeah, because that's when the whole Jake Long thing was going down and all that. Well, I mean, yeah. So I never took a visit to Oregon. But I bet the flashy lights would have got me. I mean, they got some nice facilities. Can you rank your top five spots that we've ever been to? I can if we have a list of where we've been. I can probably.

He's trying to remember it's hard. Can you be better than who's got better facilities? Nebraska. Legit. Let me ask somebody else. Nebraska does. Really? Here's why.

The way Oregon looks now, Oregon, I would say is number two. But the way Oregon looks at this current moment, they've had those facilities since like, What, 2013? Yeah, they said the new ones that they're starting. They have like the concept plans of it will be done in like four or five years. So when that happens, they will be, it'll be the mecca of any program. Like an Iron Man movie. Literally.

They have that Iron Man facilities. Like you could just tell that they're so far ahead like tech wise and everything else. And with Nike, they got so many cool things. Yeah, yeah. They have so many. And the look of it. Yeah, I think so. Did you already have?

There's yours right there. Oh, yeah. The look of it is just like. Like it's slick, bro. It's so clean. Yeah. Like a modern look, but like an athletic modern look. I know that sounds fucking old.

An athletic modern look. Jock brain right there. It makes sense, though. You like walk outside and every building's like black and they got like this fountain in the middle to where all the players walk through and they talk about how the game they experience. Like there'll be a bunch of fans out there grilling out

and everything else. But it's sick. And they obviously got all the gear. All the sport science stuff that you love. like the Nord boards where they got force plate stuff for absolutely everything they have a specific sport performance like science area really inside the margus marioto performance center god that's so cool he's the king there no question bro he's the only hyzman trophy one only heism so they have the heisman trophy like sitting looking gorgeous and having like all of his all of his background kind of

written around the trophy like below it and then behind it is they have what looks like places to sit, but it's the islands of Hawaii that's surrounded. So him being the only ice and trophy winner, he is the man there. There's like a whole section of a building that's just like the Marcus Mario to Hall. It's just like you look up in the ceiling

when you look at it from your eyes, you don't see anything. And if you look through it through your camera, it's like his face. What? Yes. How is that work? It's hard to describe. So you think a picture. It is hard to describe.

I have a video that we can put an overlay probably on my phone. I can show you later. but yeah it's just like you can tell he's their golden boy i think these are all the places we've been i might be missing one but that is your you can rank for sure the best of the best around there so i would say what sucks is we didn't get to see all of texas and the whole water bottle gate yeah water bottle gate was tough that's the only place we've been to where we weren't able to get a bottle of water straight shooters there in austin yeah straight shooters there in austin yeah Shooters.

Yeah. Because I told Nate who was showing us around, I was like, hey, Nate, I'd get a ball of water. He's like, yeah, go ahead. And then I looked at the camera. I was like, he passed. It's true. Yeah. It's become a benchmark.

A small box to check, but a box nonetheless. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you want everybody. And again, Texas, they took care of us when we were out there to a certain point. Yeah. But you want to see, like, people that are welcoming and just insane host to us, you remember that.

You remember, like, how they made you in the boys' feet. Not only us, but how they take care of the guys behind us. And Texas was, they were like inviting. They were showing us stuff, but they just didn't show us everything. Like some places. And they, like Nebraska, Michigan, I don't know how. Tennessee. I actually haven't been to Tennessee.

I mean, they're. They just finished those new ones that we, they were talking about with like the whole car wash. So a lot of these programs are adapting. We put the pads on. But I'm talking about hospitality. hospitality yeah Tennessee's up there I mean I feel like Nebraska

Michigan you gotta kind of throw in the side yeah yeah South Carolina but you gotta throw them to the side it's like we're we're like they're

South Carolina we're like their sons like you at Michigan me and Nebraska they are I'm just saying like they'll let you do I thought you're gonna go

crazier with that comment oh what you think I was like we're they're gods oh no no I was like what's this man about to say oh no yeah yeah you got

you got those out the window Georgia I thought they were really hospitable too and I was acting a little nasty yeah Me and the guy started going back at it a couple times. You 2012, right, played Georgia, had to pick against them.

Pick six. Yeah, Captain War Wolf. That's why they call them the New Year's Eve six. Yeah. That's why they got so changed it. Yeah, that's what changed. But even they were great too. Florida State was really accommodating.

How would their facilities? Oregon was awesome. FSU are a little bit dated. They're building new stuff, but it almost gives like a, I don't know. It's like it works, but even though it's kind of dated. You almost like the great. It's one of those things. of where you just, you know that Florida State, they are a squad now, but growing up,

like you just, the seminal, the arrow on the helmet, you just have this idea of Florida State. And even though it's a little dated, it goes, it like makes sense. Similar to like a Notre Dame. I'm not saying they're dated or it's just similar to Notre Dame, but it's like Notre Dame has like, it's like, yo, you know you're at Notre Dame. I feel like at Florida State, it was like that kind of feeling as well. But not like the new tech, all the new facility stuff, they don't have all, they don't have all those bells and whistles yet. It's sick locker room.

Real cool locker room. Yeah, Florida State's got, it feels like a blue collar, like grittier vibe. Yeah, smaller weight room. Like you walk in, you immediately smell all the rubber, all the plates, everything like that. Like you do most locker, or like you do most white rooms, but it's like a smaller one. And I feel like it might be football only. They had the volleyball girls in there. That's right.

I was wrong. I was staying corrected on that. But I would say, oh man, I think you still got, I think you still got us at the top. Would you say Oregon's better in Michigan? I don't think so. Facility-wise? Yeah. I would say Michigan.

The Michigan's locker room is better. Really? Because they're locker room. The locker room we saw. Because they're building a new one. At Oregon. Yeah. Michigan's locker room was like the one thing that we were kind of like, eh.

Because that was, their locker room's been there since I was there. I thought that they just redid that locker room. No. At Michigan? No. Didn't they add in like that? LSU is the one that was like.

LSU is sick. LSU had some sick. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's my mistake. The wait room at Michigan is what I'm insane. Not locker room. The weight room is second or none.

Michigan to me is better than organs also they didn't I think a lot because remember we I don't know if we want to talk about it or like we can cut this but they like didn't want us film in the like the locker room oh but they only didn't want us to film because they were at practice so you know players are being dirty the boys were being boys or stuff they were stuff everywhere still checked about hospitality box yeah I would have loved to have done it and just really preface like hey this is this is this is what the law these are what locker rooms look like for real boys are at practice you got shoes by lockers like the boys were at practice so they were like hey it's dirty we all want you guys the

which i totally get but i would say if you push aside nebraska michigan i would say ls u then organ yeah i really liked lsu lsu was like oh you put lsu over organ they're man they're different if we could see the track facility i think it would have been completely different yeah it'd be organ yeah it'd be organ but the people at oregon were just top to bottom from facilities to just like rush restaurant waitresses. To the rental car gal. Just so nice.

Coming out of the airport. Like unbelievably nice. Really? Like, what do we do to deserve this? And it's just clean everywhere. Oregon? Yeah. Because they're all high.

Yeah. Free spirit. A little more re-spirited out there. I think all drugs are decriminalized there. In Portland, I think it is. Yeah. I mean, there's some, because I would see comments and everything else where I'm assuming people are alluding to that.

I think in Portland it's decriminalized. So in like there. So we're in Eugene. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah. Beautiful drive. Beautiful. Because that was a hard part.

You fly into Portland, you got to drive two hours to go down to Eugene. So I'm curious, like, I'm sure they just get kids in. That'll just fly into Eugene. I'm sure. And we had a four-hour layover in Salt Lake City. That was the worst part about Oregon is we, yeah, we had a four-hour layover. We had to go right back after the interviews. So that way we didn't get back at like 6.30 a night on Friday.

Because we're done with the interviews on what? Like three, I think. Or was it earlier than that? Yeah, like 3 o'clock. on Thursday, right? On, yeah, Thursday. We went to Denver and then flew back Friday morning. Try to make a flight at 6.30.

You made a flight at 6.30 out of Portland to go to Denver. Took a little four-hour nap at the hotel airport. We probably what? Yeah, we slept four hours. Because we had a little bit of a delay and we got in at like 1130. Yeah, it was like 11.45 that time I was getting in my room and then we had to get up at 3.45. Yeah, something like that.

And then fly from Denver to Nashville. I mean, it's a trek, but three. Three awesome conversations. Three awesome interviews. Tess Johnson. Maybe the best spring tour interviews you've ever had. Yeah, just me. Dude, this, I mean, both of them really,

Dylan Gabriel starts like asking me questions and we just have like a 45 minute long conversation. Like I'm kind of running through my stuff with him. Talking about all the transfer portal because he's transferred around a lot of different places. And then with Tess Johnson, he talks about like, he got adopted by Bo Nix's family at 15 years old. and his mom, his biological mother is still like in his life and everything else.

And she was like pushing that issue to get him out of where he was to basically be with his family. Bo Nix's dad, he's the head football coach at their high school in Alabama, like a 6A school. Like he talks about Bo Nix basically being like a manning, like very professional. From being a high schooler like very straight edged about your business, you know, all ball. And so Taz like being. implemented into the family he's he recalls in that in the episode his first night where they ate dinner as a family and he was like we all ate dinner as a family I didn't know if I should like grab a plate and go back to my room or like you kind of like you know where I'm at you you you know grab a

dinner plate and then you play video games whatever it is and he's like they all sat down we ate as a family and I was like thinking to myself I hope I don't mess it like I hope I don't mess this up I hope I don't have to leave here damn it's crazy to like say out because it almost gets you emotional yeah you had me yeah and he starting feeling weird mine too and we go from that so he talks about getting up to that point a little bit after he was a massive organ fan because his stepdad when he was young showed him an organ game because he'd let him stay up late and watch football with yeah and so when he watched organ he thought uh d anthony thomas was his favorite player and was a massive organ fan and when bow nicks committed to alburn auburn organ played the family

didn't let uh tess go because he wanted to wear organ gear because he said said he just wore his organ hoodie he said probably every day probably didn't wash it in middle school and everything else no love organ so he goes he had he's he's a small receiver he was like a buck 35 coming out of high school or something like that and so he commits to troy uh the school and out the university in alabama and plays there a couple years balls out hits the portal and he's getting some offers and everything else and then all of a sudden organ calls and he and he's like when organ calls he's like i tell i tell him right that oh i'm committed you know i'm saying anything else i'm committed. Literally, I'm committed to Oregon. Bo Nix was the current quarterback. So it's like full

circle because Bo transferred from Auburn to Oregon for his last year or two, or for his last couple years. And then Bo and Tess are playing together. No way. And he sets the single season receptions record as a receiver last year, Taz, his first year at Oregon at his favorite school. And then he comes to life at the very end of the episode, insanely charismatic, great personality. Talks about He's the swaggiest dude in college ball. It's a fun conversation. I mean, he's trying to be a swaggiest dude in college ball. Start showing us his Instagram.

He's like, you see my fit here. I got to show off the leg tattoos here. Really? You see the drip. I got the shoes, go with the mouthpiece. This is visor. I got the visor on pregame, take it off during the game. So that way you can see the accent of the mouthpiece.

But just funny, bro. And then opens the door to get Dylan in. He's like, look, you see what I, you see what I'm saying? Quarterback thinks he has swag. He's one of these flip flops. He's one of these flip flops. It just starts busting his balls. The Dylan comes in.

We have fun conversation. Then he talks about, hey, what's some advice, transitioning to here and how to, you know, how would high schoolers manage NIL, blah, blah, we started having a conversation.

Coach Lannning was amazing. And they were like accommodating, bro. They were awesome. And Dan, Coach Lannning, he has watched some of our stuff. He watches some of our stuff.

He's like, every Thursday morning, he said, yeah, I stop messing with Nebraska because you're lock of the week. Because I busts his balls. I was like, hey, Oregon,

Washington man like I was riding with you guys I had money on that game he was like he's like I'm sorry he's like but bro you got to stop making Nebraska your lock of the week like the way he knew and it fired me up that's awesome yeah it was fun it sounds like an amazing deal we're gonna try and go back I think

ah yeah bro I'll catch a game there we're talking about Ohio State and Oregon bro and I don't know if you know that would be so sick Kelly Chip Kelly's at Ohio State now so that game is gonna be like a Oh, dude, that is going to be so massive. He's the O-C. Yeah, that was a weird thing because he was the head coach of UCLA.

And then he left UCLA to become the head coach or the O-C at Ohio State. He made a lateral move, yeah. No, no, he made a downgrade move. He was a head-coach-o-C. That's right. That's right. My fault. Yeah. But then there was reports that came out that he was on his way out anyway, like him, the AD didn't get along or whatever.

He didn't have the players anymore, so he just dip before they could get him. Dip, and then you go to a spot like Ohio. state that's probably going to prolong like get you back to where wherever he wants to go whether it's the NFL or a yeah you go 11 to 1 every year like you're going to get some jobs yeah yeah it was kind of like coach landing was talking about what was your biggest move you feel like I was like I know you I've listened to your pods before and you recall like there's too many to I was like what was a move that like happened for you guys will obviously hear in this episode but he talks about going and taking downgrading making good money and then like taking a shot to go be a GAB

thinking like this will be my this will help get me to those next bigger jobs yeah but They were awesome, bro. Yeah, they were awesome. He, um, I really want to go see that Oregon and Ohio State game. What week is that? Um, let me see. Is it during Spooktober? Strong chance.

I think it is, yeah. October 12th. Week two? Is that week two or three? That's like week six. October 12th. No, in October. Oh, yeah, yeah.

I think it'll be the second week. I can look at the calendar. We can make that happen for sure. I think so. Yes. We got to make sure align sponsor-wise and everything. else that we don't have not that we don't have but if whoever wants us to be in like SEC country yeah but i thought saturday in October i thought our conversations with uh fall tour was

going to be like a fluid like we're going to go to six spots however we're going to go to like game of the week type things we're going to pick and choose the games we go to for sure that's why that's why i that's why i said it like we got to make sure we got to make sure we're able to do that because that's the whole thing with bo jangles is we had to be in a lot of uh cc country stuff look up who michigan plays october 12th because i know We're not going to Michigan, Texas because Nebraska, which is going to be a fun time. Hey, bro, trust me, I do want to go to Texas, Michigan too, but Colorado at Nebraska? It's a big game.

But you were by. Yeah. Perfect. I have to do a schedule conflict then. Hang on, hang on. We're at it. It's Washington. Oh, it's in Seattle.

It's in Washington. Oregon plays Michigan, though, in Ann Arbor. But we want to, like, the whole is going to Oregon. What's a, but let's just say that going to Michigan during that game would be hype. I know. Go up USC. They play USC. September 21st, that's where we're going to go to Michigan right there.

That'll be a fun of course. That's the game we're going to go to. So we'll go to Texas. Texas week will be Nebraska, Colorado. And then two weeks later will be at USC Michigan. You know what I'm really anxious to see is we know that like Michigan keeps a little more close to the vest. They obviously open it up a lot. because I went there and stuff.

But for the most part, like, they're not necessarily Nebraska as far as like the hospitality because Nebraska is just like, this is your playground. And Michigan does keep a little more things. Sharon Moore, he and I have a great relationship, and he seems like a more of a relaxed cat. I'm anxious to see if Michigan's any different with him as the head coach, with us at least.

Right. Like hopefully he has like the pool of like the head man. Yeah, he will. He will absolutely. He's six. he's six and out as a head coach. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's undefeated as a head coach.

Yeah. Penn State, Ohio State. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, last year you guys went undefeated. And he was a head coach for six of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think four of those, actually. But yeah, dude, that is a, that's a bit of a deal.

What else is a bit of a deal is, is the question that is going around the NFL right now is Kirk Cousins a bad person. That's what that's not me saying that. I'm hearing that. that Kirk Cousins is a bad person or that the Falcons allowed tampering that Kirk Cousins didn't follow the book

Kirk Cer he might have had a little slip up in that presser I would love to see him because I kind of can't remember it but it sounds like he slipped up talking about his relationship with the maybe the training staff before he got there

and so they're using that little sentence or two like hey this is this is kind of tampering I get this clip up better than it let's go dude they do take that shit serious because you get penalized in the draft

yeah you lose your epics it was like when you guys were making your run and went to the FACC championship I was with the Raiders that year and John Robinson was like make sure you're not marketing anything about you know it's like a bus and Titans collab

because we don't want any potential tampering with me hell yes but just to like to show how serious every organization takes like to the detail no don't do this because we can't. This is a risk any kind of tampering, which sucks because if Kirk had any kind of relationship, it's like we were talking about before the pod, it's almost like if coming back,

if just knowing Todd Torricelli of the trainer, if we just had any kind of conversation and I say it and like I have some pressure coming back like, yeah, I was kind of catching up with Todd, you know, back in January or December, blah, blah, blah, that could be boom, your label this tampering, even though you have like a personal relationship with the set person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got it. But good news for Kirk Cousins though, dude. Good news for you looking like a man rocket these days. And that is sport clips. Your hair may grow fast, but after a sport clip haircuts,

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Sport Clips. It's a game changer. This is a sport clips right here? You like this? Yeah, I like the little... You got like a little... A little curly guy? Yeah, a little curly boy, a little slinky. A little slinky dog. That little thing right there.

They gave me a little three on the sides and faded it up a little bit. It's been about a week or two, though, so... Is that what you tell them? Three on the sides faded up a little? No. I don't ever say the fade up. I can get the part, cut in the little part? No, I do do a little part sometimes,

but I just usually say, do just do a three on the sides. And they go, what about in the top? I go, do whatever you want. And then they do three of the ones. You say do whatever you want. I want a little bit of length. Do whatever you want, keep some length.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I usually... God, because you got to be clear. Like, if they cut something short, you're going back... Yeah. I'll tell you, back in the day when I was going to Sport Clips, as a kid,

as a young buck. I would always have that, like, real tight on the sides, then real short, and then that small little, whoop, that little ramp. Proud boy. All white boys know that one. Yeah.

My mom would frosted little tips too. I know I've told that story a bunch in this podcast, but that was working around, five or six years old. Get some of that hair, that hair color shit at Walmart fucking cross them things. Paint it, paint it.

You put the little thing on and they pull, just a few out. Yeah. Leave that little stick, pull your hair out. Oh, yeah. Douse it with that blue paste. Wake up the next day a new man. Loki thinking you're murder in the game.

Light up top, darker on the side. Then you go through the phase where you want to grow it out, which was me. So the same blonde would, like, grow. It'd be like this long, but just like slowly come down there. Yeah, and still brown, still light brown up underneath. Yeah. I looked ridiculous, bro. Middle school.

You guys went to that. I know we talked about before. You never went through a long hair phase, Mitch? No, I've only ever had a bus cat growing up. I mean, I think about Mitch trying to grow his hair out. He's head so big, like to get long hair. It'd be like three years before he even got to my link. He looked like E.T.

when they put the wig on him. no yeah hey you know what I'm saying Jack oh yeah just oh

my god just a wide head yeah bro man man dude yeah see you rocked that beard now since November

I'm thinking of actually shaving it go ahead dude you want but you liked it no I do I definitely like it for sure

yeah I just maybe I told this man I said the minute you grow a beard you're going to be like man you know

I might just keep this. Be a beard guy? Yeah. Just give it a trim. No, I do trim it. I do trim it. I just maybe just kind of hit the reset button real quick. Kind of go back to neutral for a little bit.

Yeah. Yeah, I get you. Sometimes it's nice to have a little bit of a change. Even with the summer coming and stuff too, like I got to make sure the face gets an even tan. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I first got back to Nash, it was like going to be, I think, like, 48 hours before

I saw Will and I was so excited. I just phased him in bed one night. And Tailing took a nice moment. to let him know how great his beard was. It's a phenomenal beard. Yeah, I know, which I don't think it's that great. Really? Yeah.

I think you have a great beard. I think it's a really good look for you. I appreciate it. I was telling you, too, I kind of like when I take it down to more of like a stubble, like a little scruff. A little scruff? Yeah. I think you got enough density on the cheeks, though, to kind of keep it where it's at.

Like, clean it up, clean up that neck a little bit. You'd be solid. Yeah. Handsome boy. Thank you, man. I saw an old photo, you will, with a beard. and I had the same feeling up it was long

bro and I was like damn you know those yeah bro but you said get it back yeah I thought it looked oh no no no I swear the photo I looked you must have just gotten a trim because it looked very even

and I don't know pull up uh what's the video you did the Taylor won top 100 when Will's talking that's the beard that's the one I think he's talking about go to uh go to you two I don't think so we

either because it grows it grows more down it doesn't it like a had a Viking no that thing nice that's that's newer wheel beard no it's not that's old teeth in it no that's that's not that's old teeth oh shit my fault you look like you look like you look like you're supposed to be in twilight right there is that you hey you see the old teeth down there scroll down scroll down and tag you on go up the top right oh that's you I thought that was Lane Johnson oh bro yeah you had that it is crazy you had that Amish country beard too That is wild There's the

Hey Mitch Make sure to get that photo That we're just looking at And puking over That is nuts, man Yeah Teeth I mean The boys say you know what

Can't say enough about the teeth investment Yeah, it's a big deal Can't say enough Some guy last night at Shane show Was talking about my dentist He's like what do you have for your dentist I was like he's in Brentwood somewhere I was like these are fake by the way

I've been in there just like a year ago These are not real. You need to just put somebody on like some whitening paste at Walmart or something like that. You know what I do? I get this of this whitening paste. A whitening toothpaste, dude. It's all I do. Them laser mouthpieces that they're promoting now on Instagram.

Yeah. Dude, I did the, uh, what was the little things back in the day where they had like, they were like pieces of paper? Uh, the whitening strips. The whitening strips. I did that. It hurt my teeth. Yeah, bro.

It, like, just like shock waves to your teeth hurt so bad. It like really fucks up your enamel. Yeah. It's bad for your teeth. Yeah. I messed them up. I did like a whitening thing like at a dentist one time

where they like put the light on it. That shit hurt too. Maybe you got sensitive to teeth. Maybe I do have soft teeth. Soft human soft teeth. You know a good app? This could easily be my shoutout no free shoutout from Duke Canada.

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No. So basically, Y-U-K-A. Oh, I've seen this. And it basically, it helps you make the right choices for all products. So you will scan the barcode and it'll tell you if it's a good, if it's an excellent, all the way up to excellent. And as you see here, eight out of 100 for cereal honeynut Cheerios, eight out of 100. That's a bad advertisement for selling that Cheerios. But you'll just scan the barcode and it tells you how quality of a product it is.

Like, you know, whether it's like, you know, organic or whatever. How much, how much additives, how many chemicals. Like, it'll tell you why it's bad and all that stuff. It's sick. And you know who put me on it? Who? Bill Compton. This man is full of surprises on this show.

Bro. Plays the guitar. Talks about health. Yeah, well, he was showing me. He was, we were talking about some products and he's like, yeah, I was checking. on my, my, uh, my, uh, uh, Yuka app. And it was telling me how bad it was. It might have been like a deodorant or something like that. He was like, it was like, it was showing me how bad like an old spice was. He was like rated very low. My roommate got really big into Yucca and he almost lost

part of himself. Really? Oh no. You can get consumed. It literally could be in the grocery for an hour and a half just scanning products. He's like, all this stuff I've been taken for years is actually horrible for me. Bro. He's just like, but. I was in Target with Rue and I probably spent a good amount of time just scanning products while she's throwing combs in the grocery card. They just do like a green yellow or red icon if it's like good or bad. Yeah. Yeah. It's cool. It's a very, I was so surprised that Billy C. was showing me this app. That's outstanding. But that's, that's my first one. What my actual shout out, no free shout out for this week is going to be when your wife goes out of town. Oh. You get the serenity of rock and solo knowing that you can catch up on your show.

you can the wife will be away long enough to where you're going to miss them very badly by the time they get back and you just get to you just get to go back to some of your old ways now I'm going to be riding solo with Rue so I'm going to be on solo dad duty which I'll have its challenges but an exciting challenge yeah and you get a chance to level up a little bit too at the relationship yeah get in the rhythm with Rue yeah yeah that's a good just because the other day I was thinking about it Charlie went out to go shopping and I put Rue down for a nap and your boy had a very productive Saturday Got a run in, got some sawn in, clean the kitchen. Nice. Did a load of laundry. And then I'm sitting there like, just, I felt good on the couch. Like, oh, man, I'm really, your boy was fucking productive this afternoon. And so I'm, like, looking forward to those moments. I'm going to miss you.

I am going to miss you, sweetheart. She's going to be in parish for like eight days on a girl's trip. Oh, yeah, that's now. Yeah. That's going to be great, though. It's going to be so sick for them. I feel like your first three days are going to be the toughest. And then you're going to find a nice group between four and

seven yeah yeah definitely the first day just because we'll be getting back from uh our Alabama trip and we're doing the draft coverage in Chicago so then flying back early on Friday she takes off Friday morning so I'll kind of be you like have that phase yeah kind of tag in tag out sleep yeah I just need that first night to get some sleep but other than that like it'll be we'll have a good time but that's my shout out when you have that serenity of and just peace and quiet when when the kid's going to be down sleeping whether it's for a nap or nighttime you're just going to have the house to yourself. Can I add a layer to that for you too?

That makes it even better. Yeah. Your wife is not going on a business trip for eight days. She's not doing something she doesn't want to do for eight days. She's having total and complete fun for eight days. So the point where you don't have to worry about all this is happening, that is happening, they're going to come back and be all drained. Like they are filling themselves up from a soul standpoint.

So you know when they come back, they'll be ready to maybe take over 70% of the load for a minute. a day or two. The scoreboard will be in my favor for sure. Big time. She'll have to make a halftime come back in a hurry. Yeah, in a hurry. Yeah, that is. She's like, baby, you leave every week.

I'm like, sweetheart, your boy rushes to get back. Rushes. Within 40 hours now. We take the earliest flights home just to get back to y'all. We take our sleep away to get home to you. And it's for business. Like, I know we have fun. I can't help.

We have a fun job. Did you have fun in Paris, France? Did you have fun there? Exactly. I go on an eight-day trip with the homies? Oh, yeah. That's tough. Don't worry.

You'll get back. calculated with the hours and everything will be fine. Yeah. But go ahead and put Rue down right now. I'm gonna relax. Yeah, yeah. Now, Serenity does that last a couple extra hours? And then you just get to be a guy for a little bit.

Like, you know, leave some dishes out, you know, for a little extra day or two. Smile about it too as you walk away. Yeah. Order, order some takeout and kind of leave it there on the table. Yeah. Knowing that you're gonna put in work right before they come back just for it to be spotless. Sweetheart, I kept up with this all the rug. Under the rug.

Yeah. See how spotless this is? It stayed like this. It's crazy. It doesn't happen when we're both here. here. Yeah. Oh, bro, I fucking, I, I have a bad habit of leaving the espresso in the machine.

Yeah. Instead of cleaning it out. And it's in the pantry. And she moved it out of the pantry. She was like, I'm putting this out here to be seen so that way you know. She's like, you can't handle it in the pantry anymore. That's what she said. She goes, you can't handle this.

And I got tired. I was like, I'll never, I'm never making one again. I'm never making a latte again. And because she was like, baby, I think to move out to the counter in the kitchen. is going to be better for all of us. And I just want you to know, I was like, no, don't even worry about it. I'm not making any more lattes.

I'm not using this machine ever again. You're going to let your girl run in your house like that? She had to put her, to her defense. Go ahead. She said it's down. She did. She did. Because I don't know what the material is,

but it was, your boy, with scrub, I'll try to get stains. I was like, babe, it's not going to stain. Like, trust me, I'll get it out. And I couldn't fucking get it out. She's like, don't worry, we'll move out here. This will be, this is the right.

You can't handle it in the pantry. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I was like, you mother, bitch, dude. Yeah, yeah. Just to dust up, a little tith. Have fun in Paris, Charles. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Have fun in Paris. Shadow, no free shout out. All right, you did two, I'll do two as well. Last night, going to Shane's concert, we get in the car. Will realizes he kept the key so Charles can't leave my house to go to her house. her house. Hey.

Oh, yeah. So we cruise back to my house. We're already running late. We cruise back to my house and J.P.'s now out of gas. So we get in my wife's vehicle and we take that car. And because I'm driving and this is an older vehicle so I don't have like a little monitor to tell me how to get there and we're how. The wheel is like co-pilot.

He's co-pilot and he also has my phone to do. To play music. To play music. So he's double wheeled in the whole time. Now, we put a song on, Will and I are kind of bump it to it, but it was a little sad. But here's where my shout, no free shout comes in, is where usually when you get a car with a bunch of guys, you're going to do something fun, like you want to put some bangers on that everybody knows, everybody enjoys and we can all sing along to so we get the energy high and going.

We put about one song on, and then Will Compton goes, let me let you guys try this one on. What do you think about this? Which is one of the most daring things you can do with a friend group. going somewhere is testing out a new song when energy is needed more than ever. And he put that... Because they were on us in the back. Like, come on, I know you guys are singing to it,

but let's get some energy going to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, there was a minute where we, yeah, I was like that. It sounded like Hilar Delilah, but it was actually like, it was a Swiko song, which I really, I think is fire.

And I'm kind of, I know the song, so I'm singing it. Will's legit looking at the window, feeling something. Like, my friend was in a music video for a second. And I look at the river mirror, and JP's kind of like, what the fuck?

fuck is this I was like hey well we should change we should change it so he puts that he puts that song on and it hit it was uh is it called I'm good the um blue da badee kind of remix

by day together yeah yeah I'm good best fucking night of my life but he put that I da da da da you know it's a jam he put the song on he's like I got a new one for you guys and hit that was like this is blue like and then all of a sudden

I know I didn't find out I was like I'm struggling boys and Alva started getting nervous. Yeah, and it worked out. So my shout-out, no free shout is taking the risk of energy when energy is needed more than ever. Yeah. That is, that's my shout-out and every shot on that.

I mean, it could have been worse, but I reached in my pocket to grab my phone to search for the song or to search for a song or something like that, and I feel Charles Keys in my pocket. Oh, you're on the keys again. I was like, what's he? Where is he going on? Well, not that, remember?

Because you were like, you were saying something like, oh, this would be good. This would be better than if we would have made it all the way there than she wouldn't have had it in the first place. And I was like, you don't understand. If we would have made it there and she would have been like, I don't have my keys and I have them on me. I had recently,

earlier that day when I went on the daddy daughter, had a little daddy daughter morning, I leave Rue's backpack at Target. And I'm swearing up and down. I didn't leave it there. I didn't even bring it in Target. They checked the cameras. Hey,

we found the backpack. So Charles was already going back to, because my rock brain dude just lapses. The espresso machine, leaving it in. Don't beat yourself like. Don't bitch yourself. I know, but you're taking small things

and you're piling it up. But these are within the last couple weeks, bro. That's all right. We all go through phases. You know, you're a little foggy. You know I'm losing it. You know I'm losing it.

You know I'm losing it. No, you're not. You're not. You're strong. You're strong. You do way more good than bad. Way more good than bad. I appreciate you.

Uh, my... Second one. My second shout out and our first shout out simply is taking action. And I'll explain why I say this. When I built my home, I spent an ungodly amount of money on my landscaping. And I told the landscaping people, listen, this is what I want. I want you to think like you're walking into organized chaos, like green, lush, but there's flowers everywhere.

Like you're on a French countryside and there's wildflowers as far as the eye can see. And it's just like a vibrant, beautiful bunch of colors. And you're just like stimulated, but you feel warm and fuzzy inside. Landscaper's like, we got you. They start planting stuff. And they go, three years from now, got to give plants time. You'll have that. It's now been three years.

I have good landscape. I got good grass. I would say you have good landscape. Well, that was in the details, brother. I was blind too, but now I see. Okay. Okay. I start looking out and Talon brought to my attention a little bit.

I'm like, you're right. There's not a whole lot of vibrant French countryside going on here that I was wanted so bad. And this dude named Steve crawls out of the ashes. And he's like, I am the greatest gardener of all time. But people just don't know it yet. I can turn this into what you want. Blah, blah, blah, blah. So I have now taken action.

I bought a tractor. And I dug out, damn near half of my own landscape this past weekend. Talk about being productive. You dug out? Swear to God, I dug out. I need a video, call my wife right now. I thought you just got on the tractor. No.

I'm just going to put up a funny. Bro. That you found on Google. Jack saw that that even right there is on Google. That's a funny Jack move. But let's call Talon right now. Also, ratio. You need those references.

In crazy fashion. What up, dude? Hey, I need, I need, you're on the bus right now. I need you, I need you just plainly tell Will and the boys what we bought this weekend and what did I do this weekend. They're denying your manlyhood right now, aren't they? They are. Taylin, I said there's no way he actually used the tractor. He just got on it, took a photo and just like, I'm going to make him think that I was doing some shit.

Tell them, tell him what happened. Will, I can completely understand why you think that. I even told Taylor this is the first time in eight years I've ever seen dirt under his fingernails. It was like actually noticeable. Get to the point. But he, he bought the tractor,

and he got on it, and he filled it up with grassy folds, and then he drove it to the spot to dump it and drove it back. Okay. Did he dig up? He said he dug up half of his landscaping. He did that by hand, and he actually did it, for real.

And he used the bucket to fill it up, and then he went to dump it. He did real landscaping this weekend. All right, that's confirmed. That's confirmed. I love you. I'll talk to you later. So I dug my shit up.

Steve, this Steve guy, he's like an alchemist. Did he, the way he's got a green thumb like no one's ever seen before. He's out at my house every single day. And he's like, I want to use your land to show people what I can do. So I took action. And in three to five years, boys,

I'm going to have a world-class garden at my half. I have a world class. So you got to restart basically. Yeah, but my, you know my grass. Grass stays. Great grass. A lot of green all year. Yeah, yeah.

It's very green good grass. Vibrant green. But you know, like the kind of bushes you see that are kind of around the green grass? We're working, baby. We are turning that shit into. I'm not just talking about it'll look nice. I have an area designated to Win, Rebel Luan, my oldest daughter, that there are different flowers and different plants that are from a family named Wynn that we're going to plant. there so that's gonna be a wind garden there's obviously a willow tree my youngest daughter

i'm gonna plant different willow trees different willow plants which steve was telling about there's a a bajillion type of different plants i am going to have a world-class garden three to five years and i took action on it this weekend bookmark that bookmark that shout out no free shout out taking action yep shout out to uh you said steve shout out to uh you said steve shout to steve that's i know that's a gritty move It's a gritty move by Steve. No one knows it yet. I need to build my portfolio. Let me use your land because I can really deck this thing out for real.

And then use that to market and showcase my skills. He is, I don't want to sing his praises too much. I do like Steve. Early in the game. It's early in the game. First quarter. He came out, said a lot of good things. And I'll tell you what, first couple minutes of the game, he's been doing great.

Okay. He's been doing great. But three to five years is a long time. Yeah. Yeah. You know, eventually fatigue will say. in. I have a team mixed cowards out of all of us. Yeah. Great quote. I'm going to

pee. Mitch, do your shout-up. My shout-out and every shout-out this week goes to Supercross. Shout out, Supercross! So we... Do you ever not talk about Supercross? I'm sorry, it's like you at Nebraska. I'm a fan of something.

I'm going to talk about it. And every time I do talk about it in the team meetings, other meetings with you guys, asking you guys if you're going to show up, here we go again. You're talking about a Supercross with Tell me to shut out, making me feel bad. Okay, tell me out, time out, time out. I'm teasing, a little true to it for sure, but I apologize.

I apologize. I know you love Supercross. It's very near and dear to your heart. Yeah, my, yeah. I won't go into the whole story. But I want to shout out Sean, Brennan, Dustin Pipes. Those were the two guys. And Chris Elliott from Team Solitaire.

We have a dirt bike now. It was a very, very long process in getting it. I mean, like a year and a half. No year. we were yeah but the the talk of getting something from twisted tea dirt bike wise was last year supercross and that was a year ago but it's that that conversation of that bike started you started that conversation with them a little before that i didn't think we were going to be able to get a bike from them but then we were going to get a bike and you promised it for a year it's been a year

yeah and that's we have it now we do and it is beautiful it is so sick and and just the the like shan and Dustin and Chris, like they were super accommodating, accommodating for the guys, for my family, Taylor, Delaney, like, got his tickets, had a really good seat. But they're just great dudes, great people, and can't thank him enough for getting us a dirt bike. Taylor could only be at the thing for an hour. This is my anniversary. But, yeah, it was a first day back anniversary. And that's, I'm, no, I'm happy he even gave me, like, gave us an hour.

like he didn't have to do that but and Sean was like okay we got this this and this and then you're out you're fine and we made it happen like and we're I'm stoked about it I know you're stoked remember when we were talking about your approach to Taylor yeah you're like did he ever let you know that we talked what he he texted me he's like Mitch I know you're going to ask me something just ask it no no no I said when you're ready to ask me the question I have an answer yeah and he take would you text back do you want to go no you said what's your answer I said you have to have to squest you first yeah yeah and then I called Taylor at first we were what we were both like I'm not a supercross guy like I'm not a dirt bike guy yeah and

Mitch being like hey supercross this year and again he dropped I mean no he didn't drop the ball we went we had a great time at supercross but we were supposed to have this dirt bike and Mitch is just all supercross 24 7 365 no that's not that's not that's not that portion every time you're like hey I got another supercross topic to talk about we're like all right Mitch we're like all right Where's the bike from last year that you were said that you swore up and down we were going to have? Well, now it's here and you can't bring that up. No doubt. But it took a year.

Taylor was getting back on the 19th and Supercross was on the 20th on 420. Shout up 420. And we were both kind of out on Supercross because, again, he's just getting back and his anniversary is on 420. And so Taylor had already previously said like we weren't going to do this. And so Mitch was like, hey, I think we're going to get the dirt bike. I was like, fucking here you go again, bitch.

And I was like, listen, I've never rid, I've never ridden a dirt bike. I can't like, he's like, he's like, they want you to ride it out,

you know, ride the dirt bike around, stuff like that. I was like, listen, I'm out. I politely decline. He's like,

you think we'd get Taylor. Because I was like, Taylor, that'd be something that he would like, like he would want to do. Like, you love dirt bikes. I love dirt bikes. And,

uh, but knowing that Taylor had said, I'm like, it's all, you're going to have to just frame it well because he's out there in Mexico right now boys we obviously were taking the heat we're kind of taken you're about to come back around

and ask him something about Supercross which we're in the middle of spring tour we're doing all these other things I'm like you're just going to have to it's going to be about how you frame it and then I was telling Mitch I was like just we'll text later and I'll help you craft your text message yeah you literally said I'll text you should try and say to him

because I was like you're going to have to go on whatever he says if he says no then don't bug him about it like it's going to be a no and I was like I'll write your text and you can send it. Taylor and I am. That is crazy manipulation by the way. I know. I know it is.

But I could see Mitch. It seemed like he was like, I know we're getting the bike. And in my brain, I'm thinking you would enjoy doing it. But again, completely understand that it's on your anniversary. You know how much I was missing my family too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I was hurting. And so I was trying to think of a way that it could see, you know, that obviously get you to say, yeah, like you're going to have to know if he does it within an hour, then he's gone within the hour.

Like all this stuff. to like try to get the boy a win as well Taylor and I ended up talking on the phone and I was like hey I'm just gonna tell you Mitch wants to ask you a question I forget I lobbed it up for you I was like Mitch is gonna ask you something and Taylor was like here we fucking go

and I was like um I said whatever it was a super cross thing and I was like listen you say no it's truly I told him I've already prepped him for you basically saying no but if you want to do it I thought there was no shot you were gonna go yeah yeah I literally told well

I was like it is dope I was like, but it's my anniversary. Yeah. And I need to, obviously I have to ask Taylorin. And if I even get a hint that she might feel some type of way about it, the answer is without a doubt, no. Zero, 100%. So I called Taylor and literally when we hung up.

And I was like, guess what? Which even then you got to kind of craft. I know, you got to, you just be like, they're giving us a dirt bike on 420. We got to go do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to have some savvy. You want to know good news or the bad news? And she goes, she goes, what's the bad news?

I go, there's something that people want me to do on our anniversary. And she said, what's the goodness? I was like, I'm getting a dirt bike. And she goes, she literally goes, there's like a pause there. She goes, dude, that's fucking sick. I was like, oh, for real? Yeah, I thought so too, but it's our anniversary, dude. I will not do this.

I will not, like. I swear to God, I will not do it if, blah, blah, while she's like, no, how long do you need? I was like, I told them, I will tell them one hour. She's like, perfect. Yeah, let's go do it. Boom. And then I had to wait. And then, even then I had to wait like, two, three days.

And I was like, I have to text Mitch about having an answer. What are you scared for? I was nervous the entire time. What are you talking about? Do you know where you, like, what did you see me, Matt? Well, no, no, no, not that you were mad. It's not that. It's just that he's bringing up another super cross question.

Yeah. And we ball busting. We obviously ball-bust it. That's a fair. Because he comes up, he's like, hey, another brand wants you to do this. And it's like, bro, I mean. Remember the private jet? We've been rocking with Twisted T.

Yeah. Yeah, he brought up a private jet opportunity that fucking didn't work out. So every idea that I usually brings up for Miami. Yeah. I sit in a meeting. We're like, all right, yeah, Mitch. No call back. No call back.

Every idea like he'll come up with. You're just like, when's this one going to blow up and not work out. Oh, my God. You know, but I think I was maybe the second most excited person there. Your dad was number one. Oh, yeah. My dad was just, he was just talking to like, behind the scenes people just about the engines and stuff,

just trying to like learn more about it because he's been doing it for like 30 years. And but they were, my parents kept saying like four or five times, they, the coolest thing was seeing how excited you were because you had like that little kid like energy. Like, holy shit. Like it's here. We got it.

Dude. In your excitement and nerves to get on and be like, oh, fuck. I knew all this. gonna do that too oh i knew it and delaney was like you can't do it like the whole time deline's like in my ear like don't you can't fuck up i'm like i'm like i'm so nervous and i was like just like doing to those and i was like oh my god and all the pro guys didn't even look that didn't even you did that just from my eye it didn't seem like anything it happened the pro guys came up to me were like doing the hey it happens those too like don't worry about doing that thing and it made me actually

feel worse i was like please stop i understand i'm fucked up i know you're trying to make me feel good But the second... Do you almost lose it? No, no, no. Like, I let the clutch out and I put the throttle down a little bit and I kind of just puttered out on me. The second one, that was kind of weird because I had the clutch instill and I pressed...

I put it in the first and then it all of a sudden just turned off and I just put my hands. I was like, I'm very nervous right now. Everyone, please. And the guy came over and like tweet the clutch for me. I'm like, man, that's going to do it. And it did actually. So I was really happy about it.

But even then you hear me driving off and it sounds like the bike had stall at any second. I was so nervous. bogging down there. Yeah, before, too, they were like, this is a race engine. Can't, like, on this road, be very careful, slips very easily. So, like, then I started getting my head a little bit, like, man, what if I just tipped this thing? And I get, I got, I got hurt.

How long had it been? So you've been on dirt bike? Since I've, like, driven an actual dirt bite, probably 16 years old. Is 16 when you broke your foot or earlier in that? No, I was 12 when I broke this foot. Got you. Your boy, no joke, I put a little thing on this on Twitter, but, like, I would get up in the morning before like middle school and high school like 6 a.m. and go ride my dirt bike in the

state land for like an hour and then I would come home and get ready for school. And I would get home and I would get on my dirt bike and I would drive to the gas station. I would drive on the roads and then the police would get behind me and put the lights on and I was just going to the desert. I literally was I like I felt invincible with a dirt bike. It was insane. That's cool. Now I drive to my friend's house. Dude I I truly thought I would go to the super pumper gas station on the order of dynamite and Tatum and I'd get a microwave burrito and I'd fill my gas tank up and it cost like a dollar 50 and I'd bring change and I put it on the counter like pump three like 12 years old you got to get uh Travis Pastrana dude I know yeah that'd be so sick vlog with them get him on the bus

I know dude literally like that was when I saw that der by when I saw the bus with the boys on the sides and everything I was like this is that is probably the coolest gift I feel weird saying that because I feel like there's a cool gift that I've been given out there. But still from a nostalgia standpoint, a little kid, the little kid in you and everything else. By far, like, the coolest thing ever. And it was cool that Mitch made it happen and Mitch eats, sleeps and breathes only thinks about dirt bikes. Yeah, and we just ball bust them. We ball bust them for this last year.

It was truly, dude, it was the coolest thing ever. Like, I was at home being like, hey, day, we got a dirt bag. Like, we just left it there, too. Like, Delaney drove it here. Because I had to go, my, I was five minutes late to win soccer. game. Pulled up. I was a parent that pulled up.

It was like, get out there. She's like changing in the car on the way over. Got her out there playing soccer. She kicked up. She's gotten better at soccer, by the way. That's good. Yeah, she's gotten better.

Shout out win. Shout out Win Rebel. She's having fun now. That's all it matters. Shout out Supercross. Yeah. Nice. Thanks to the dirt bike.

My shout, Nova shout out goes to, I guess, taking a shot or a chance because this dude DM me on Instagram and you're going to be fired about this. This is something that maybe we can

do as a group and maybe for like a little under the hood or um bussings but he's like been a huge fan of buss in for years just opened up a new philly cheese steak spot in the nations here in Nashville we love of you guys came out for a cheese steak on the house no free shoutouts brotherly love cheese steaks look us up so lance harris maybe the i i went looked it up and they look very promising so that's something like with a you know slow content week a little bus scenes action yeah We run out there for lunch or something next week. It's good a day.

We get back. Yeah, we're good today. Next week would honestly be a great week. Everything's, we get a slower week next week. We get it on Tuesday next week. Yeah. Down. We'll be out there Tuesday next week.

What is it, brotherly love? Yeah, brotherly love cheese steaks in the nation. So official review coming soon. But yeah, you got to appreciate a guy just taking a shot. Especially one of the lower level guys here. It's like probably can't get Willard Taylor to respond. Maybe we can see. this other guy will.

So everybody, if you trying to get our attention, everybody DM, Jack McPherson. Don't do this. But follow him first. Follow him first. On the note of DMs,

though, I did get another one on Twitter just from a guy saying that they bought 13 of the boys hats for his bachelor party. They're going on to that celebrity golf tournament they do every year with like Pat and, oh, let's fucking go.

And he said he bought 13 of them for all the homies and he's like, I'm just fired up. Oh, I'm going to be like strapped up. And I was like, yeah, let's go.

Hey, but for real, everybody, DM Jack McPherson. on Instagram right now and just ask him a ridiculous question. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, ask for a ridiculous ask for a ridiculous ask. Speaking of the twisted question.

They don't even, they don't know. Brotherly love cheese steaks, DM do you? No, Tom, Lance Harris, I guess he's the owner. He's just saying it's called Brotherly Love Cheatakes. Yeah, yeah, local boy. Yeah. Home town cheese steaks. You got to take care of the local boys.

Yeah, got it. We got to get Mitch's review on them, even though I highly question his... You have no idea what a Philly cheese steak is. You think fucking mushrooms go on. All right, Mitch. Watch the tone a little bit. That is your boss.

Mushrooms? onions. Peppers? For sure. It's onions. It's whitter without. Here you fucking go. You don't know what you're talking about.

We had the one in Columbus, Ohio. That was a banger. It was. What do you say? I don't know what a cheese steak tastes like. I didn't say you think all these extra... Go ahead. Twisted tea.

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All right. This one comes from Aaron Feel on Instagram. Nervous. You get four inches to divvy up between your height and your piece. You can also substitute an inch for 10 pounds of muscle or to lose 10 pounds of fat. How are you divvying up your four inches? Starting with what we have now? Four inches, us right now. Yep. So I can take four inches off my height and put it on my piece. No, you just get a four,

you just get four extra inches. Oh, we're just getting gifted four inches right now. Yeah. We can put it to, we can put it. We can put it harder. What you're saying might make it a better question.

Is if you give an inch to your piece, it takes away. Yeah, it takes an inch from your height. I think this is easy for me. What's the muscle and fat thing again? You can, you can substitute an inch.

You can substitute an inch and you can either. Dock an inch to get to lose fat? So you can, like, say you had four, you take away an inch, you can either use that to get 10 extra pounds of, like, muscle or lose 10 pounds of fat. But now you only have three inches left, if that makes sense. Okay. I'm ready. So basically, you, yeah. I'm going to use one of my inches to gain 10 pounds of muscle.

One of my inches to take 10 pounds of fat off. One inch. Brother, you, I don't think you can take much more. Like, what do you? What you mean, bro? You're a lean, mean fighting machine. What are you trying to... You're trying to look sick?

Bro, 10 pounds of muscle? I'm balancing. I wonder what your body fat is right now. It's probably high teens, mid-teens? I bet it's around like 10 or 11. No fucking way. I think so. I appreciate you, by the way.

You're making me blush. Even though you kind of don't mean his compliment. I'll take one inch to my penis and I'll subtract one inch for my height. Give me another inch. No, so the way Will described it. Jack. Well, no. Yeah.

Me, I'm taking one inch losing 10 pounds of fat. I'm putting one inch on my piece and I'm putting the other two to my height. That's how I dealt with. That's a twist of question, right? Yeah. I just ate that. But didn't you say if you- Jack, I said something and Jack was like, I think that could be a better one.

Like if I- If you add an inch to your piece, you lose an inch to your height. Yeah. But then if you add an inch to your piece, height you lose an inch on your piece right I'll take two inches off my height if yeah if we were doing that I would probably just add 20 pounds of muscle loose 10 pounds of fat yeah keep my height keep my piece that's all you 6-2 about what are we for real though about about 6-2 about 6-2 I think you want to go off like my

protein everything else I'm flirting around like that I think 6-1 no I'll give you six one and a half. I'll give you six two. But that's what I'm saying. That obviously, yeah. I'm just saying like I'll keep my height. Yeah, six one. We can say six one.

So if I lose two inches off my height, where is that? What do I get? If you lose two inches off your height, you can go two inches to your piece. Okay. I'll just say monster. Yeah. No, well, now average. Now we got a.

No, remember. Now we got something that I'm not afraid to wear shorts around the boys. This is a pipe. Like, when we were, remember when we were going to Notre Dame, you said you could barely fit your piece in a white-mouthed gatorade bottle. That's not how I meant to say it. That is definitely how you meant to say. Not meant to say it.

It was more commenting on how much weight I've lost. It's my pieces. You got bigger from losing all the weight. I can't. I can't hardly fit this thing. I remember the words that were said. It was a delivery. It was a delivery.

I would, yeah, I'll take two inches off my height. For sure. I probably want two inches off my height anyway. I'm a little, I'm too tall. Yeah. I'm kind of too... I am too tall. I think you're solid.

I mean, you are tall as fuck. Yeah, but 6.7's like giraffe. Yeah. People go, when you walk by. All I'm saying is that'd be a great usage of your... Whatever it is, your four points. Yeah. Because it seems like it's either you use your point as an inch

or gaining 10 pounds of muscle or losing 10 pounds of fat. Is that what you guys are doing? What are you guys doing? Yeah, I'm... Or if I switched it up at all, it'd still be 10... If I took an inch, I'd add it to my height. 10 pounds to use one more point for 10 pounds of muscle two points for 20 pounds of fat You just took five points no four take one point added to my height so that's what you

just you just that's one point take one my second point and add 10 pounds of muscle my third and fourth point 20 pounds of fat keep my very average approachable piece huggable huggable presentable yeah it's handsome yeah you've got got a handsome piece. That's really all that matters. Yeah. Just searching for mouth hugs. I was going to say you haven't even seen them stiff, but you have so. Have I?

All right. What do you guys do? I'll add, I'll take two points to my height and I'll do one muscle and one fat. Yeah, a little nub. Is that where are we doing it the way? Yeah, we're doing it the way we've been talking about it, yeah. Jack, what do you guys?

going one all around one piece one height 10 muscle 10 less fat yeah so the only thing that changes distribution yeah just so nothing changes too drastically yeah gonna be calling over you know yeah kickstand that mini me kickstand shall we get into the uh coach landing at interview yep it is a banger and anybody from the organ fan base who's listened to a hundred or an hour and 40 minutes of our bullshit welcome to bustin with the boys this is but this has been a good buss it's been a fun buster with the boys it's bad this is bustle of the boys at full power yeah yeah just the boys hanging talking chop telling stories uh but you guys are gonna love this coach landing episode we talk about his journey we talk about uh the the biggest moves he's made within his coaching career having a job

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And I see you, I see you rocking the hoodie. Yeah, the hoodie too. That was a Willie C staple back in the fall or wintertime. And how many times during the fall that I look at you? Bro, so many times. Yes. I was like, dude, where did you get those? You had true classic.

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Yes, bro. That's easy top. That's a sharp dress man just walking by. He's not trying to... In good colors. I like good colors. I like the olive. Good quality fabrics, dude.

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coach Dan Laining when I listen to burnham it's because I did one with him as well he like came out to Nashville and we set out and I was listening to yours on brittamon and learning about miss there being a Missouri boy and everything else like are we rolling yeah we're good We're good to go. I was listening to Adam Brennam's interview with you. And it was juicy, bro. Like, thinking number one, both Missouri boys. So everybody listening right now on bus with the boys.

Yeah, the Show Me State. Missouri boys. And being a high school coach at Park South and driving fucking 13 hours off of a coach's clinic connection? Yeah, there was a, I mean, I wanted coach. Because those things are chaotic. Yeah, they didn't really know me. It was one of those like I'd gotten a phone call.

I'd sent letters everywhere. I'd gotten a phone call. And I just told my wife. I was like, this is the first time anybody's even called me back. And then it kind of came and went. I said, I got to go drive there. I got to go, you know, take a chance. Yeah.

But like my brother, he's a high school coach, and he kind of came out to one of the coaching conventions. They hold them at, there's one in Nashville at the opera or whatever. And they're just like, it's just like a zoo. I mean, who's who they're there. They're out there. They're having a good time or whatever. It's just, you know, you go to Nashville.

And then a lot of guys, I'm assuming like yourself at that time, you're sending emails, letters and everything. You're just literally trying to get in the hand, shake a hand. Have a conversation. I want to pour coffee, like whatever, just to get in the building. Where did that come from for you? Is it that linebacker mentality? You know, that and just never wanted to live with regret.

And early on realizing, okay, like, I have a greater passion for this. You know, parent teacher conferences, those are cool and all. Yeah. But I want to coach ball. Yeah. I want to be somewhere where it's about ball more often than not. Right. Even that's changed in college football, you know.

But the aspiration just to get to the highest level and not sit here and say, man, maybe I could have if I would have sacrificed something. Has it always been that way? Have you always wanted to be a head coach? I don't know about that. Or chase the dream of coaching. But yeah, I always wanted to see, you know, where it, and, you know, what the end-all-goal could be, you know, what you could achieve.

And some of that reset, you know, I've told people this before, but when my wife got sick, you know, it kind of made you say, okay, like step back. Who really cares about this other stuff? It's about your family. It's about taking care of your three boys. And I probably, I was probably really selfish early on in my career, right? Like, how can I move up the ladder? know there's only one O line coach or one linebacker coach in each town.

So if you're going to continue to advance, you got to leave town, you got to go somewhere else. And you're literally 12 hours a day, sometimes more than that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you sleep in the office, especially, you know, early on in your career. There probably hasn't been a place that I've worked where I haven't slept in the office at some point, you know, wherever I'm at. And sometimes that's required. Sometimes, you know, I've learned how to be a little bit more efficient there and balance it. But you have to be willing to do more when you're at the bottom in the totem pole, right, to advance.

If for any GA's young coaches out there listening, like what, what are those gritty things that you would be more willing to do than the next guy? Because there's so many of G, there's so many of those guys just trying to get their foot in the door. You obviously, you know, you're driving 13 hours just for an interview at Pitt. Just to, I think, I believe I heard right, the coaches were at Penn State that day. So it didn't even happen that day. You're changing into a suit at the gas station. And you're talking about, you're alluding to things like not everybody's willing to pour a cup of coffee. make sure the guy ahead of you, his call sheet looks the way he wants it

because if he gets promoted, I could be a guy that, you know, I was joking with JP. I know how to run the computer. I know how to run the technology. What are some bits of advice you would give to those young coaches? I think every coach has aspirations of being the offensive coordinator, the defensive coordinator, the head coach. And the reality is you got to go find all the jobs that nobody wants to do and become the best at them, right?

Like making a call sheet and, you know, making yourself to where when this guy leaves, he's like, hey, how do I open up this file? Yeah. You know, how do I create this? How can I make this cut up? When the film shuts down. Yeah, find all that. I mean, I remember going to men's warehouse to pick up a coach's socks, you know.

And certainly wasn't what I wanted to do at the time, right? But if that, you know, gave me favor with that coach for an opportunity to, you know, be his guy that he trusted, then you get to do whatever it is. Is the head coaching gig everything you thought it would be? You know, I love a lot of pieces of it. I love the fact that you get to interact with more position groups than just one side of the ball. There's certainly a lot of headaches, but every job has headaches. I mean, it's a ton of fun. It's a lot of fun in this place.

It's just fun being a place where you have great support and where you have players that are really good. Let's just hypothetically say the cameras are turned off. What's one thing he's bitch about with the job? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's one thing he bitch about with the job? Well, let's just say complain. Yeah, I'll be honest.

I don't bitch a lot because I realize how lucky and fortunate I am. I mean, I think the landscape of college football is changing drastically and everybody speaks to that. Do you love every piece of that? No, but you better be willing to adapt. I think the more time you spend complaining, you know, the less you are focusing on getting better. And I don't take a lot of those problems home.

One of the benefits for me is my wife never really asked me about work, which I don't want her to. Yeah. I spend all my time talking about work at work. So when I get home, it's that chance to, you know, kind of check out after you get done making your recruiting calls and stuff. Right. Well, you were talking earlier about how your perspective shifted, like when your wife

had gotten sick and everything else. How do you, I guess, work on that work-life balance when, you know, because especially in the, you know, really any industry, if you're somebody, somebody who's ambitious to do anything great. You've got to be a little cynical. You've got to be a little obsessive. You got to like, like you said, like you're, you're selfish because you're trying to go after your thing. Talk about how you worked on that work-life balance as your perspective shifted. Well, one thing I'll say is that there isn't balance. You know, there is no balance in this profession. There's no balance in your profession. If you want to be great, right? So there's

going to be sacrifice. We talk to the same thing with our players. Like, if you want to be great at something, you've got to be willing to sacrifice something that's valuable, right? And one of those things we sacrifice is time with our family. So that's not going to come back for me to be. For me to be the best coach I can be here at Oregon. I'm going to be eliminating some of that time that I spend with my crew. And what it means is when I do have that time, it's got to be important. It's got to be intentional. You got to figure out ways to incorporate what you got to do with work with what you got to do at home. So like last night, the entire team's over at my house, right, hanging out with my wife and kids. So I get to be with my family. But they get to be there too, the extended family.

When your wife was sick, was there ever a moment to where you thought, okay, maybe I need to shift. Maybe this isn't what I need to go after. Maybe I need to do something else. Like, talk about those moments where I would assume that there were some lows and even some hard conversations I would assume. Yeah, there were certainly some lows.

You know, I don't think I ever wavered in what I wanted to be able to do. I just probably became a man of faith a lot more and got on my knees a little bit more. You know, speaking to a greater power to say, hey, I can't do this alone. I need this lady here with me. And I always knew that I was going to continue coach. I don't think that ever

that ever shifted, but you've got to solve problems. You know, you have to get a sitter. You have to get somebody that can kind of help out with the kids. And, you know, more than anything, it probably shifts your aspirations and your focus. Yeah. Again, fascinated listening to Brennaman's interview with you, but we got to sit with Coach Norville a couple weeks ago. And something that really stood out talking to him is when he's sitting there, he's just preaching gospel about, you know, how he worked and very similar to your style of coming through it all. But one thing that stood was like never working for the job that you currently have, always working for the next job. That was something walking away from.

It was like, oh, that's like, you know, that's something juicy you love to hear. You seem very much cut from the same cloth. What are some things that you learn from Coach Norville getting to work under him? Yeah, I mean, Mike has a crazy passion for the game when it comes to like his intensity. You want to see that start at the top, right? You want a head coach that you know, he's not going to ask you to do anything that he's not willing to do. he put in the work, he put in the time. He looked at things outside the box, right?

And that's what I hope people see here. One, you see the details because all the details matter, especially at this level. But a guy that's willing to put in everything that they have to for us to be successful and willing to adapt and change. I think that's where a lot of coaches mess up. I know you've said that there are too many moments, too many like, you know, breakthrough moments,

but is there one job shift that you made and one decision that you made that really kind of puts you in the right spot to where you, you know, knew some things might come together sooner rather than later because of a choice that you made. I don't know. It's something I can appreciate now more than I did probably at the moment. I was a full-time coach at Sam Houston State as a DB coach. I was finally making a little bit of money. We had three kids and kind of living under our means and I got an opportunity to be a graduate assistant in Alabama. And if you go back and look at that staff now as an all-star staff,

you've got, you know, Coach Saban, Coach Smart, you know, Lane Kiff and Mario Cristobal, Mel Tucker, and Billy Napier. I mean, the list kind of just goes on and on and the guys that are on that staff. And I learned more in football that year in 2015 than I'd ever learned in my career. What was that interview like? Going out to interview with Alabama.

Yeah, you know, nothing that I'd ever been prepared for. You know, I kind of assumed I'd be a fly on the wall and this is a GA job. It's not like it's the most important role in the building. But to sit there with Coach Saban, he's asking you questions about your philosophy on pump protection, that's not something I had dialed up ready. You know, I have my thoughts and I shared them, but you got to meet with everybody in the organization, you know, from position coaches to administrative staff.

You know, I thought they did a really good job of being meticulous in that process, getting feedback from everybody in the building. What did you think of this guy? So it's a lot of fun. I still got the voicemail saved on my phone today of Coach Saving, calling and, you know, saying, hey, give me a call back. It was him offering me the job. Oh, that's fucking awesome. Not deleting that. Yeah.

Did you walk away from that interview being like, damn, I wasn't prepared? No, I felt good about the interview. but the process took a while. There were some other guys they interviewed, and I didn't know that I was going to get the job. But the big difference there is you go take that job. I'm making decent money, not great money. You go take that job.

You're making $1,200 bucks a month. You've got three kids and you don't have insurance again all of a sudden. You're on EBT. I mean, it doesn't make sense, right? You're just cutting up tape for all the cut-ups for all the personnel's and formations. Yeah, you're doing a little bit of everything.

Doing a little bit of everything. So it's, you know, you take a step backwards financially to take a step forwards from a professional standpoint. Yeah, you got any good. good kiffin stories? I've seen some... You got one that you can tell? I don't know that I got.

I'll say this. I've seen Lane and he can take an ass chewing, you know, for the best of them. And I've seen that happen before, you know, multiple times. You know, it's something he was, he became privy to there at Alabama. But he was able to dust it off pretty well. You know, it never really affected him. Yeah, that's awesome. Well, I think we had a body armor question.

Do we just got to say body armor? Do I need to do like a little read? Yeah, but we should. Okay. Okay. Because I do want to ask. I want to ask your biggest ass chewing story that you took personally that just had you beaten down. From a certain coach or any coach? From a any, let's do both. Let's see both. Well, I mean, did you ever have one? Did you ever have one Saban? Yeah. And it's the craziest deal because, you know, the best position to be at an Alabama with Coach Saban is to really be in the outfield.

Right. You got the infield. That's all the full-time coaches. But to be in the outfield, you're kind of safe. Like you're the guys that laugh at all the head coach's jokes. You see other guys get their ass ripped, but you're kind of, you know, you're kind of the outside. It's not your position. It's not. So I was in the outfield. I was a GA.

But I remember we ran a kids camp. And we must have been working with like seven, eight year old kids, right? But he ran kids camp like we're running Alabama, like fall training camp. And this is, I get there kind of late. And I'm kind of just learning the process. I'm a little bit of a fly on the wall. And one of our strength coaches is running bag drills and he leaves. right so he leaves the bag drills he's got to go work out our guys so i just started doing bag drills

like i did at park hill south or like i did at sam euston state and i was not doing bag drills right coach saving came over and it happened to be a day that paul fine bomb was falling around and he let into me he let me know what bag drills were supposed to look like um you know and it was a great example of how everything mattered to him it didn't matter we were coaching eight-year-olds it mattered it matters you were doing the drill right so i stayed up that night and watched every drill to make sure i had a master just in case i got thrown in the fire now how about any coach the biggest ass you. Oh man, I've had a lot of them, right? I had a lot of them. Kirby Smart's, you know, a great A professional given those. You know, Todd Graham is the best. But usually once you take a few,

you're kind of like, and then you see the new guy get it, you're like, hey, it's part of the gig. What was one that really put you like? Well, I'll say early as a coach, you know, Todd Graham probably prepared me for a lot of future astronauts, right? So early as a coach, I was running the scout team. You know, I was a GA. This time, you only had one GA on offense, one G on defense. So I was kind of coaching all 11 on offense. After practice one day, Coach Graham goes, man, I'm sorry. You know, I apologize.

We have the worst scout team in the nation, and it's not your fault. It's my fault because I hired the guy. He runs the scout. He points to me right after. He runs the scout team, and he is the worst, and I couldn't have been smaller in that moment. I'd just been coaching high school ball the year before,

and let's just say the scout team got better, but it was a good, humbling moment for me. Oh, fuck, man. I'm just trying to imagine. in that moment, are you thinking that you're probably thinking maybe of a couple players, like if you guys would have just fucking look at the card? Oh, no, in that moment, you're thinking about, should I stay to high school coach? Should I go back to Missouri right now?

I go coach high school ball. So, no, it's humbling experience, right? But you can't cry and spill milk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You just got to keep rolling. Talk about your process of being the head coach of the University of Oregon and how that panned out for you. Yeah, it's been great.

And it really goes back to the guys that I got to work with before. I got to see some great coaches do this, you know, and every one of them. was different. Kirby's different than Nick. You know, Nick's different than Mike. Mike's different than Casey Keeler and Todd. So the, you know, I'm relatively young in this position, but I got to see a lot of really great coaches do it in this seat. I think the biggest thing I learned is I got to be me, right? But there is a process that you believe in. And I've probably stolen something kind of from each guy. The other piece is figuring out what the weakness is on your team and saying, okay, how are we attacking that rather than just rolling with the script or the practice face that

existed 365 days ago because it is changing. So I'm concerned. I'm concerned. continue to grow. I'm not there yet, right? I got a lot of growth to make, but it's the same thing I challenge our players with. And if you want to grow, you got to get uncomfortable. When you were in the interview process with becoming the head coach of Oregon, was it a time where, and I apologize for being unfamiliar with all the interview process and everything else? But was it one of those situations where you're hitting the interview circuit and thinking like, okay, maybe I'll be a year involved and kind of hit this and kind of have it for the resume and then maybe the next year? Or you got in the room and they're like, hey, we can't let this man leave.

Like a story that I'm thinking of is McVeigh when he went to the Rams. Right. When he was the OC at Washington, you know, he was going in the interview circuit. I remember sitting down having lunch with him. And he was like, you know, this is usually where, you know, you'll go around. You'll get in the interview circuit because I've always been fascinated with getting and coaching as well. Right. And he was like, you know, I'll do this for a year, kind of get in the conversations and everything else.

And usually it becomes after that. And I remember when he went to the Rams, Coach Phillips was like, yeah, I don't think they're letting him leave the building without a contract. Talk about the interview process and that experience being a DC. Yeah, college is a little bit different, you know, but there were some, there were some opportunities to interview for head coaching jobs before, so it wasn't my first interview, but they kind of come to you. You don't know when it's going to come. I mean, on this one, I'm actually flying on a trip to Miami to do official visits, so I'm recruiting for Georgia and at the time really, really satisfied with my, you know, situation at Georgia. We just lost the SEC championship. I'm kind of focused on the rose, or excuse me, the Orange Bowl,

but I'm going down here to recruit a kid and I get a call saying, hey, these guys want to hop on a Zoom. So I do a Zoom, you know, in an airport, FBI, throwing kind of a suit coat. And that was just kind of the start of it. And it really escalated really fast after that night, after that initial Zoom with some more phone calls. And it goes quick.

You know, you never know when it's going to come. There were times where I thought I'd get off for a head coaching job and I didn't. And then this one is probably one that I didn't think was necessary. I didn't have a connection to Oregon. I'd never been to Oregon until I got off the plane here as the head coach. So I knew what it was. somewhere I wanted to be, but I wasn't as familiar with it or had any ties to it. So going through that process, every one of them is different.

And this one, you could tell that there was a really unique vision. And, you know, it was all in sync in all line with what you want as a head coach. Did, was it with Oregon, was it one of those things when you're interviewing to be a head man where you're kind of wanting to be a little choosier or pick the right situation? Like had, you know, anybody, whether it's Norville, Sabin, any of these guys before you, coach smart, kind of giving you any advice. on, hey, whenever you do get an opportunity to make sure it's the right one. Well, I knew I could be picky because I knew I had a really good job, right?

I really enjoyed being the D coordinator at Georgia. I got to coach some really good players. You know, we were competing for championships there. Got to win a national championship that last year. So I knew I had a good job and I wasn't going to leave for a bad job. You know, I always think the job you take has to align with your goals. Like, where are you going to grow? It's not about how much you're going to make.

Who cares about that? Yeah. I got to win, right? I knew I could win here, right? That was really important. I had to know that there was support. So, yeah, there definitely had to be some things that align. working checked every one of those boxes.

And then, you know, you have a couple successful years. The Alabama job opens up. How real could that opportunity have been had you sought that out? Because obviously, you know, I saw your video when you ever you were saying, very juicy, by the way. That was a phenomenal job by you guys. Four. Who has goals and aspirations?

Raise your hand up. All right? Everybody got goals and aspirations. You know how you get those? You'll be the best where you're at. That's how you reach goals and aspirations. That's how great things happen. It's not about worrying about the next thing.

It's about worrying what's it right in front of you, six inches right in front of your face. I want to remind you guys what that means. You guys just got here, don't know them, right? It means something being ordered to do. Everybody makes what? They all make commitments, the things that they're going to do. A lot of stars.

The world doesn't have a lot of what? Finisher. We're finishing. I want to be here in Eugene for as long as Eugene will have me. This place has everything that I can possibly ever want. There's a little bit of a problem. society today with people looking for what's next and where where there's an opportunity and the reality is you know the grass is not always greener in fact the grass is damn green and

Eugene um but obviously you want to stay here and have your roots and everything here and be here for a long time but how real was that potential to be the Alabama's head coach or be in the mix for the conversation yeah I don't know I mean I think there's there's been a lot of opportunities that were real but if we're never going to let it get real here I'm exactly where I want to be right um i've said it a lot but you know i've got right now i have an 11 year old a 12 year old and a 14 year old i'm committed to those guys finishing school here right and for me to do that we got to win right so uh are there i'm not interested in the other opportunity one of the reasons we released the video is i'm talking to a recruits mom the night before and uh she's saying i'm seeing all

over you know the internet that you're leaving 100% no i'm not ever targets were on you like he's going to be the priority right i need i need this to tackle and so we actually were talking on the phone. I was like, what would make you feel comfortable? I'm telling you I'm not going anywhere. What would make you feel comfortable? Are you going to make an announcement? I said, how about I make a video? So we make a video and I send it to her first before we ever, before we ever released this. Because she had just gone through the same experience with another coach telling her she wasn't, he wasn't going to leave. And apparently a lot of coaches say one thing and then do another. Yeah. So I just wanted to make sure that we got this kid.

And, you know, we're building something here. And, you know, I think a lot of people leave before they ever get to see what, what they can accomplish and what's finished. you've talked about alluding to the book good to great and you know what is it walking walking 20 miles yeah 20 mile march the 20 mile march yeah what are some things you take out that book outside of the 20 mile march and also are you making are these guys reading this are these guys reading the book too are you just kind of going over it yeah they don't they don't necessarily read the whole book okay you know i've had one player after i get up here and and talk through a book that asked me afterwards hey what was that book and they come grab christianzal's first round pick for the patriots he's like

that was really good. Can I read that book? So I wasn't a big book reader, but I'm looking for ways to grow. Right now, we're really studying the book Art of War, Miss Sun Su, and then Pitten Potential by Adam Grant. You know, I think those are both some great books that, you know, allude to growth, right? So we're always trying to look for something and it's different every year, but probably the biggest thing out of good to great was what I can do different. Not so much about what the team can do different, but if you want to have a, you know, great organization, you've got to have level five leadership and what's that look like. You got to be humble. You've got to be willing to grow. You can't be the guy that's

always pointing out what everybody else is doing wrong. You've got to be a thumb pointer. And you pick up on a lot of pieces like that. Is there anything with the head coaching job that was a surprise for, okay, I anticipated a little bit differently, being a coordinator, being a position coach, that you learn about becoming the head coach. Like any, you know, harder situations with players

are instilling all of this philosophy and getting it amongst the entire group. Yeah, I mean, one, understand that you don't want a coaching staff that has a bunch of use, right? You want a coaching staff that's diverse that can relate to players in different ways and what you define as a good position coach isn't always the exact mirror of you. You want some other pieces to that.

I think the other thing that you find out really quick as a head coach is your time's not your time anymore. You might think you can get up here early and watch some film, but as soon as you walk in, somebody's knocking on your door, you start to learn to appreciate people that can solve problems, right? Like if they can figure it out

and you can tell them later, hey, you did it wrong, but this is what we're going to do. And then you can't be afraid of confrontation, right? That's part of the role. You've got to be willing to tell people when it doesn't look the way you want to look. And you're not here to make friends, right? You're here to run an organization and do it the right way. But you can do that with respect and the way that you do it.

Yeah, because it's so much easier said than done, especially with the confrontational. People avoid confrontation. And it's necessary to grow, right? If you never identify what's not going right, you're never going to get it right. Yeah. Oh, man, I had a question that you were talking about. We interrupt this episode to bring you Pure Michigan Emmy Award-winning actor Sam Richardson is back in Pier Michigan and his hometown of Detroit just in time for the

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He's like, Will he just can't help it? His brain is filled with rocks. He'll continue to make... What you get in trouble for? Kelsey's not going to this... Yeah, bro. I try to keep up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we had this, we had this annual beer Olympics that we do. And with the NFL schedules...

We got one similar with my buddies. Oh, yeah, yeah. I can't wait to ask about that. I know you're the head man in a group chat. I'll get to that. But yeah, we have this beer limits that we set up and we tailored around the schedules of the NFL guys. And we always do it the last week of June

because when minicamp is done, guys have like six weeks to kind of do their thing. Well, the first week after minicamp is over is Titan U. And George, he's our boy. So we go to Tighten U, we do Titan U, get some interviews there. So we do it the week after. We do it the last week in June

because in July, everybody's going to be, they're going to be in the trenches, they're going to be trying to get better. they're going to be ready to go for training camp. So we set it up the very last week. We've done it for three years in a row. And all of a sudden, Barstool has something the same week. Dave and them, they're making it about that we changed up all the bars still scheduling

to tailored around the football guys. And then we exclusively tailored it around the Kelsey Brothers. We sat with Jason at the Super Bowl. And they were like, man, we don't know if we could make this work. Travis is really adamant about doing it. We're going to, like, we want to try to make this work. If you could do it Monday, Tuesday instead of Wednesday, Thursday, same last week, then we'll be able to do it.

So we tailored it around the Kelsey brothers. Travis gives the call the other day and it was not good news. He's like, hey, I'll tell. It's with Taylor. I'm so talking. It must be going with Taylor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Something, you know, when you're a superstar and then you're dating like the most popular

person in the world schedules, you got to kind of line them up. So I understood, but it made for a bad, everything kind of fell out for your boy this week. Yeah, I'm not here just taking bullets. It happens. So you guys have, you guys have an annual little? We got a trip. We go every year. We have a, you know, one of my buddies is a linebacker's coach for the Giants.

He's getting married this year in Miami. So we're taking a little trip to Miami right before the wedding, right? I hope it doesn't end up like, you know, hangover. I hope we all make it to the wedding on time. Yeah. But it should be a fun trip. Are you the glue that holds the group chat together? I'm not the glue.

I mean, I'm a piece of the puzzle. I'm a piece of the puzzle. There's this committee that exists. It's kind of this, but nobody really knows about the committee. You got a committee within the group? This is deep. Yeah, this is big. Guys play different roles in the group chat.

Nobody really knows who the committee is. Okay. You don't got to say me. Nobody really knows who the committee is. But they make a lot of decisions and things get done. What's been the best trip that you guys have been on? Oh, man, we've done Tahoe. Tahoe was a lot of fun.

We've gone deep sea fishing a couple times. You know, there's been some good trips and it's gotten better. My job's gotten better. The trips have gotten a little bit better, too. Yeah, I bet everybody's getting a little bit better budget. Hey, let's do it up a little bit more this time. Not a lot. Like where you guys are back in the GA,

days where you're all cramming in a hotel. No, we got it, we normally can find a good spot to stay in. Dude, it'd be like, uh, we go to the, you got an invite if you're interested. Oh, no shit. We'll talk. That'd be great. Okay. We're going to say no cameras. That's fine. Uh, yeah, I'll do it. Trust me. Yeah, these guys would get excited if they knew that you could come, you know, okay. All right. When, do, are we

able to say? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. We'll talk. We'll talk off camera. Offline. I mess with that. Now I kind of, now I kind of remember instilling all your stuff with the guys. Right. Like, again, going back, and I'm using McVeigh as another example, because, again, I would just always pick his brain about coaching and everything else. And he was like, comp, you know, he came to me before practice, before training camp practice one day. And he was like, comp, the biggest thing that you'll have, that you have a problem with that all coaches do, especially if you're a ball guy. Like you play, you do all the stuff, preparation won't be an issue. All these things won't be an issue.

What will be an issue is trying to teach people to think the same way that you're thinking. Has there been a learning curve with that and coming across guys and be like, bro, you have so much fucking talent. Right. If you just listen, if you just trust the process, was that a learning curve for you getting in the coaching, coaching guys, the way you were at William Jewel being a linebacker being just hungry about the game? Yeah, I think, you know, the piece I always say is if I could go back and do it all over again, I would have got a psychology degree. Because it's really about figuring out how do you get that guy to believe in what you're trying to teach him or trying to grow him. It could be the same with the coach. The other piece is just having an onboarding process when somebody shows up.

Like nobody knows how you want it done unless you explain it to them. And that takes time, right? You got to sit there and try to create and make coaches talk through why they're making this call in this situation, right? And what your philosophy is. And we talk about playing the game before we play the game as much as possible. We do a coaches meeting where we put on a TV copy. I'm like, all right, what are we calling here? What's the situation?

What are we thinking about with timeouts? And try to play the game out with our offensive coordinator, our defense corner. You know, Bo Nix would sit in that meeting with us last year. But you try to get everybody on the same page. And, you know, that's probably where most valuable, the most valuable time for you is how quickly can you get everybody in your organization believe in the same way, seeing it the same way you see it, or challenging yourself to see it differently. Yeah. And we spend a lot of time on that. Bo Nix, at the Heisman ceremony, you talked about him babysitting your kids.

Yeah. Was that a PR move or is he actually a good babysitting? No, real talk. That story is real. I literally came home one day and Bo's there. I mean, Bo and his wife, Izzy, and really Casey Rogers and his wife Maya, they would come over to our place quite a bit. And every once in a while, Sophia would put them in charge of watching the boys, and she'd have a girl's night out. So unbelievable kid, unbelievable family.

I'm really excited to see what he does next. Are there players that you watch have success, whether in the NFL or that you look back on that you have an entertaining recruiting story about? Okay, good question. trying to think, entertain, recruit. I mean, we've all been in the situations where you go do a home visit and you eat one meal

and you're full, and then you've got to go to the next home visit and you do another meal. I mean, they can wear you out because you're going to eat it. When you walk at the door, if mom's not going to eat, you got to eat it and you got to pretend

you love it, even if you don't. But interesting recruiting stories. I mean, somebody that you guys never probably would have heard of. He's actually playing right now in the league's names JJ Russell. You know, I remember when I'm at Memphis, I'm going to

recruit JJ and I swing by the bank first because his mom works at the bank. I drop a note and the bank teller and it shoots up the teller pole. It comes to his mom. Nice, nice move. Go play pool with his dad, right? You know, at the local pool spot and we're playing pool and then go over to the school, hang out with JJ at the school for a little bit after school. We get on the game. We're playing madden against each other. Last game, we play for a commitment, right? Get his commitment. Playing for a commitment. It's once I've built some confidence that, okay, I can handle this guy. Play for commitment. And that night finished off with Coach Norville pulling up this big Memphis bus

outside of his house. And we did the home visit meeting right there in front of his house. So it was a, yeah, that's kind of a fun story where I felt like there's no way anybody did more than we did. Right, right, right, right. Did you prep? And now were you preparing ahead of time? Like, okay, I'm going to have to play this kid in the game.

And I got to come correct. Well, no, I didn't know that. And I wouldn't have said, hey, this one's for a commitment unless I felt good about where we were at because I haven't played a lot of games since then. And during COVID, I got the sticks out a little bit, you know, as I tell my wife, hey, I'm going to work. I go downstairs and play, what's it, call of duty. Yeah, I suck at that game. You're playing war zone with the boys.

Honey, shut up, I'm playing college duty. I'm doing my job. Take the headset off. Yeah, she figured that out pretty quick. So, yeah, I haven't played, I haven't been on the game for a long time. But you're always trying to find something that's going to separate you from every other coach they're talking to about. Hey, this is what a three technique looks like. I mean, there's a little bit more to that in the relationship.

How was it like getting to learn the whole recruiting aspect of college ball? Like I would assume you being a lower guy at first and then you kind of get an area, you might go into some dicey situations, some dicey areas. Like, okay, I got to kind of, I got to get crafty here. Do you have any of those? Oh, I've been, you know, I've been in Baltimore where I was like, okay, I've got to change. I'm wearing these cool Oregon shoes. It didn't used to be something that was part of my game, but I've pulled up the place

where I'm like, all right, I've got to put on my other set of shoes here. I've been into a spot where I got to get patted down to go in. You know, that didn't really necessarily make me nervous. getting patted down to go in, but what made me nervous about the amount of people that were staying outside that weren't going in. You know, I'm like, hey, you might walk in me to my car?

I try to be uncomfortable here, but yeah, you find yourself in a lot of unsavory situations sometimes when you're chasing the right guys. Dude, I bet. This question came from JP. Looking back, if you were, what coach would you want to play for outside of yourself now that you've experienced all the coaching trees that you have?

Who is a coach that you want to play for? Let's say both position and even coordinator. Obviously head coach, you'd probably, you know, you're probably going to say all of them. There's benefits to all. No, no. I mean, I think I could, you know, speak to each one of them because they're all different. But ultimately, like position coaches, we got some great coaches on our staff here. Like, Tasha deploy is one of the best coach.

I was actually a GA at Alabama when Tasha was a position coach in Alabama before he came to the D coordinator. And, you know, the amount of time and effort he puts in, the details he puts in, I think really separate him as a coach. You know, Kirby and Mike are two guys that really stood out to me, his head coordinator. coaches. You know, Kirby, I'll probably be drawn to a little bit more because he's on the defensive side of the ball. But the passion and energy that he coaches with, you know, the intelligence, how much I felt like I learned in my time working for Coach Smart, you know, was certainly really appealing. And you just always knew you're going to get his best every single day. As a backer, what de-coordinated would you want to play for?

That's a great question. You know, Mel Tucker, you know, and, you know, Mel was a guy that you always felt like was in your corner. You know, he did thank you. you know the right way he always had the players back he's that coach that had the players back um he's good teacher good communicator and uh there's always looking out for you outside of the field too yeah well yeah and then there's one more okay we said that we got that one all right this is our twisted question oh but it won't be too twisted if you had a movie made about you what Hollywood actor would you want to portray you want to versus like what's most likely right Let's do both. Let's have fun. We'll do both.

Okay. This is a good question. What's the, who's Batman? Christian Baal. I think that guy just hits it out the park in like almost every role. Yeah, I'd probably say Christian Baal would be, you know, he's a method actor. I've seen him get fat. I've seen him get skinny.

Right. I mean, he just does it all. He's all out for the role. Right. Daniel Day Lewis is another guy. I think about like that just like goes all in on his roles. But I probably said like Ben Affleck is somebody that probably look a little bit closer to. I don't know. I mean, he does a good job too.

Do you guys have anybody in mind? For some reason, I feel I think he could, you could get a Leo. Oh, man. You get a Leo, get some scruff going, kind of cut the hair like his? Leo's a different level. That's a big pull. That's a big pull. Yeah, that'd be awesome. Coach, man, we appreciate it. This has been awesome. I've enjoyed.

I knew I would enjoy this conversation. Again, being a Missouri board, being a linebacker, being just a young coach in the game. I think it speaks to a lot of like the cloth you were cut from. And no Knowing the journey that you've been on because it is like the longest road travel being a high school coach and going to coaches clinics and trying to shake hands. And I would almost, I don't even, who knows how many emails you wrote and letters you sent that was just a fart in the wind and never got to anybody. But to see you climb the ranks and be in the spots here.

And now it's really cool. It's really cool. I'm certainly lucky. I've got some great luck and maybe created some of it. But been around great people. Best thing I've had. I've been around winning organizations. And that's the key to moving forward.

So really appreciate it. It's been fun, man. For the boys. Oh, in matter of fact, I got one more. How long did it take you to craft the speech before Colorado? The Cinderella story is over, man. Right? They're fighting for cliques.

We're fighting for wins. There's a difference. Right? There's a difference. Right? This game ain't going to be playing in Hollywood. It's going to be played on the grass. Right?

It's going to be played on the grass. It really, not a... That was not off the top. No, no, I write down my thoughts before every single one. But I really do it kind of the hour leading up to that. that meaning. And really, it's built off of a lot of things we've already talked to, you know, throughout the week. So we have messaging every single week, trying to say what's going to be the difference in the team that we're going to play,

you know, and that one happened to, you know, be public consumption. But it didn't play out the way I thought it would necessarily play out when it came to that. You know, so every week we have a message, right, that we try to, you know, piece together for the team that we're playing. What's going to be the theme? What are going to be the differences in us and the opponent? What's going to lead to wins and losses? And those same things you heard in that speech were things that we had talked about kind of throughout the week.

What makes us different than this team? How are we going to handle, you know, pregame antics? How are we going to handle some of the things they're going to show up? So, you know, it's a fun part of the job. But that has very little to do with what the success of the game looks like. Yeah, but well executed. We usually, yeah, click swing. Oh, that's a bar right there.

Hollywood grass. Oh, man, you crushed it, bro. But all to say, I don't want to get, you know. The game matters way more. Yeah, yeah, the game matters way more. But anyway, hey, we appreciate it, man. This has been fucking awesome for the boys, bro. Absolutely.

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