Taylor Lewan Opens Up About His Future W/ The Titans + Delanie Walker Talks Jim Harbaugh, 49ers & Titans
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02:31I kind of like wearing the headset.but you're not what I was looking I was looking for the I was looking for the years I couldn't find themyours are always down there I think there's a little cord a little cord uh coming on the podcasttoday is the legendary arguably the best tight end in Tennessee Titan franchise history delaneywalker we will obviously get into that dude our very first busts with the boys guest I knowbesides episode triple zero our first one that one didn't even fucking count like hey we're aboutto do a podcast type thing yeah I was nervous just shaking in my boots with that it was it was nerveHe's sitting on a couple of stumps,
03:04holding the microphone.Delaney was the first guest in Bussing history.Oh, he did?He was rolling?Here he is.Come on in Delaney.Come on, Delaney.Usually we film these intros after the guest comes.
03:17We talk about, hey, this is what we talked about.This is what we did.But it sounds like with Delaney, the kind of guy he is,we're just going to have this intro with him on.Might as well.Might as well.I mean, he's a friend of him.He's going to have to learn what Shed,
03:27I know, free shout it is.And here talk.What?This ain't gonna say you until the day's been a minute.Wait.I'm good to see you.God, as handsome as the day I first met you.I don't age.
03:45What are y'all doing over this time?Black don't crack, bro.Hey, that microphone's right behind you.So I did.I'm actually excited to see you because I was talking to an individual about a year ago.Yeah.And they go, hey, have you seen Delaney lately?I said, no.
03:59What's going on?He goes, oh, you got to get that close to your face.He goes, uh, Delaney's going to be.gotten kind of fat.That's what I heard.And this is not my words, on the messenger.You can't shoot me here, but this is what I was told.And obviously, they were sadly mistaken.
04:13Yeah, they were hating.Yeah, they were absolutely hating.They said I was fat.They said you were gaining weight in a rough way.I'm glad that you had to hear that, too.Just because of what you did to me in 2018.I mean.Do you remember that?
04:25Yours was true.Mine was wasn't.I remember that.He goes, you guys were in the sauna because that's where Delaney got all his workouts.No, we were going to the tub.We was in the tub.And I was standing up, and you know how you got the,you got the spandex on that grab you.
04:40And they never been favored in the street.No, you had just walked in, bro.I was in the cold tub because y'all must have just got done with practice.And I don't think you was practicing.Was you heard at this time?I got a hand-in.I was, I was heard.So you was coming in and getting a cold tub, and I looked up like,
04:55damn, calm.You ain't been working out.Yeah, you've been working out.And I was like, I was just getting in the cold tub.Like, fuck me.That's the worst thing to hear.Dude, that was a hard story to hear for sure.Yeah.
05:09I want to know who said that, man.That's crazy.They knew.I was fat.They said I was getting fat.They said you were gaining weight.But obviously they're wrong.Like, you don't have to be.
05:17No, I know.I wonder if it's a look-a-like out there or something.They didn't know.They look like Delany Walker.Gang of people with that hairstyle there.You did kind of do that.You started that.At first, you used to be like the fade or dreads.
05:29And you had a nice little mix of the two.Yeah, I'd like just a rat pack.You know, it's just nappy.Yeah.And dreds with Afro.Yeah, but I feel like, I don't know if I can say that word.But I feel like for individuals that have said hair, you just said.What hair?
05:42Like, you kept it clean.Yeah, P, P, P. Why, I don't think we can say that as white individuals.We can't say, we can't say, nappy?You can't say nappy.I don't know, dude.I've had a couple of black dudes say you can't say nappy.They all like, yeah.I am, I am touching.
05:54It always makes me nervous to say words.I mean, honestly, y'all on this podcast now and it's busting.So, what do you think of the glow up?Dude, you were our first guest.You know, I'm glad to be back on the bus.It looks good, man.Y'all've been doing a lot of big things.I'm happy.
06:08It still don't drive, but...Yeah, that's a tough deal.That's an L we've afforded and decided to take.Really?But look at how far this has come.I know.The windows look better.Outside.
06:21Yeah, outside, bro.Hot as fuck.You mentioned a point.It was only 12 minutes long that episode.No, just because it was a clip.Back then we didn't do the full episode.We just dropped the clip.Because I think he was on for, like,
06:32I mean, it had to be like an hour or something.Yeah, yeah, he was for a while.Hour 16.The first episode, that's, we had our first headline from the first episode because it was,it was Delaney talking about how the Titans IV people almost killed them in the game.Bro, they got so mad at me because I told them with you.In the next week, I saw the IV guys.I'm like, what's that?
06:52What's that?They're like, hey.I'm like, oh, what's wrong?They didn't like that.They were mad.I was like, I'm just telling the truth.Yeah.I mean, y'all know what happened.
07:01Every single time I get an IV.because they don't burp it.Well, they do now.They do a great,they do a great job now.They do a great job.I walked in us.I said,
07:09there's just some great people.They did a phenomenal job.In this room,I said,wow,what a room.I mean,they always been great.
07:15I loved them guysthat's been giving usthe IVs.It was just,it happened once.Yeah,it's like a story.Like,
07:22you still tell the story.If you get air in your veins,you get like 50 Cs plus,like you're hurting.Yeah, I was hurting.I couldn't breathe.I was coughing up blood.Yes.
07:30Against Jacksonville, right?It was against the Raiders preseason.Oh, that's right.In Oakland.In Oakland.Yes.I'm that dumb-ass baseball field, dude.I was kind of happy out of him.
07:40No, you were with the new boys.Like, I don't want to play on this baseball field.That is awful.You get around the 50-yard line, you're like, I could slip at any moment.Yeah, I'm not falling at all.Yeah.No blocking for these guys.No, I remember that because I remember being on the sideline, people would be like,
07:53Hey, is Delaney all right?And like, I don't know.Like, he's had like five MAs.Like, something's going on with him.Like, he's like, I'm out of it, Cah.I'm just out of it.now. I was like, yo, it's preseason. Like, what are you worried about? I bet we broke for a long run.I'm walking. Coach, like, why are you walking? I'm like, I can't breathe. That's when they
08:10pulled me out. And then I start coughing up blood. And then they took me to the back.So what did they do when they took you to the back? Put you on your side?They put me on my side and they gave me like this breathing tube. And then I was justbreathing out of that for like half the game. Is it like oxygen or what? Because when I saw youafter, you seemed fine. It was like an asthma thing. So they put this like some medicine in it. And then youjust holding on your mouth. And it's like,blows out smoke.I don't know.
08:33It was crazy.I'm just like sitting there.All from that IV?Yeah, all from my,because I was extra bloated.And it was like, oh,it's because of the air got into your lungs,you feel bloated.
08:42And then I was just sitting there like,okay, when it's going to go away?It was like, just keep sucking on this.You should feel good.There you go.I forgot.I forgot.Oh, my God.
08:55So you were sucking on itthat kept you to keep going.And then you felt better eventually.Yeah, yeah.It was that kind of.Yeah, that kind of day.It was that kind of day.Bro, so you're retired now.
09:06I'm officially retired for sure.Yes, officially.How does that feel?Like, what's it like?Like, what's life like?How did you get to that outcome of...Because you were thinking about coming back there for a minute.No, I never wasn't going to come back.
09:18You were trying to...In the summertime, 2021, right?I was just talking.I wasn't coming back, man.I was just...Why were you just talking?Were you going to see if you could maybe, you know,float something with a steam mask going for a second?
09:28I was just saying,I was just saying if somebody was going to throw me that contract late andAnd it's easy, like, yeah, I'll take it.I really didn't want to play, though.Yeah.I'm tired of having surgeries.I'm tired of feeling like crap in the morning, you feelme?
09:40So it was just, I think I was done.I mean, I told Taylor every year, I'm done.Every year I come in, I'm like, Brad, this is it.He'd be like, all right.And every year he'd get more jacked and leaner.With a speaker and a body workout in the steam room.It's so disrespectful.I still do that.
09:56That's what I do constantly every day.Like, literally, I just came from the steam room, busing down.What's the room you go to?My house.He did well.He did well.He did well.I made some money.
10:10I ain't got Taylor, buddy, but he's too.You made some.You had like a unique career because like your career really didn't start going off to likethe back half.Yep.He's you were in San Francisco.Yeah, but San Francisco, he was nice in San Francisco.He was nice, but he was underrated nice.
10:25Like he wasn't getting like that.Those were the guys who like watch because in the Super Bowl,I remember like you was making those.Oh, yeah.You were, like, known as the blocking guy even though you could receive.Yeah.Because you were next to Vernon and everybody's like, yo, everyone sleeps on this because you were number 40.46.
10:39You were nice in San Fran.You were 46 the whole time?Yeah.And you didn't think about changing that once.I know why?Because they put me at, it was weak.It was weak.It was weird.
10:48It was trash.I used to be like, man, this number, boo-boo.But it was like, all the 49er fans knew me as 46.So it was just like, well, I switched.They was, they love me.You know what I was.And they love the 4-6.And I looked at it.
11:01it is, I'm going to go out here, I'm a ball out, forget this number.And that's what I did.But they used me so much in the backfield that they didn't really want me to switch my number.They was like, nope, we want you to be 46, stay 46.Because I try to switch it right when I made the team, I'm like, can I get like an 80 number?And they was like, nope.Really?Yeah, they was like, Mike Morris wants you to have 46.
11:21I'm like, what's up with this dude?Like, he wanted to be trash.Like, you know what it's like.But when I came in the league 2006, our jersey was like,like them fishnet jersey, so it was like, dang.They're rocking them pennies.And it was a 4-6, so, you know, it was the big boy.I was like, ah, heck, no, I can't, nah.
11:39If we're going to wear 4-6, I need a smaller jersey.And you were rocking, like, core four special teams in the beginning, too, right?All four, kickoff return.How long were you doing that for?I pretty much did that my whole career until my last two years I only played kickoff.Yeah.Yeah.Man, that's true.
11:56You're in Tennessee?No, hell no.I never said.Oh, you meant your whole contract.You got you.Got you got you.I'm like,I don't remember you.
12:05Yeah.During,during camp,like he would make fun of me for practicing.Oh,yeah,no,because Delaney got you
12:11really out of here practicing?I'm like,year too.Like,yeah,I was like,oh,that's crazy,
12:14go?And like,all the love in Tennessee.We'll get in,we'll get into that.We can get in.Yeah,they were cool people.
12:20I love,I love Tennessee,man.You was going to asksomething about being on the Niners?No,I was just going,going through the process.
12:27Like,being,when you were leaving the Niners, like,was that your seven you left?Yep, your seven.And then you went to the Titans,like how was that departure?Like, how did you feel about that?
12:37Because you grew up in California.You're low-key in California besides this D3 Missouri schoolyou went to in college.At the time I did,because I knew they was going to go backto the championship game.They lost that year.But, you know what?
12:50I don't think I'm actually involved.Like, I don't get carried away with, like,me leaving a team or going to a different team.I was like, who gonna pay me?Right.I need to be the starter.In my mind, you know what I'm saying?Vernon, my dog, but in my mind, I'm like, I'm better than this guy.
13:07Like, you know, that's how I think about anybody when I go on the field.I'm better than them.So I just need the opportunity to show that.And the Titans was like, we got Craig Stevens, but he's the blocker.Once they said that, I said, oh, hell, yeah, that was what I was.Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.And it worked out, bro.I mean, I ain't even going to lie.
13:25I was disappointed when I first got to Tennessee, obviously.because we sucked.We sucked. We didn't have a, we didn't have nothing.Yeah.We didn't have a steam room when I first got here.I had to think about that.We didn't have a steam room.And Coalub was terrible.
13:41I mean, the whole facility was bad.But they started to grow as we started to win.So that was good.What was the relationship like with Vernon?Because I got to play with Vernon in Washington.And the Vernon that I feel like I know is way different than the Vernon that you know.Oh, yeah.The Vernon you know now is that's not the same Vernon.
13:58All smiles, very professional, just the nicest dude.Oh, he always been in that way, though.Was Vernon the dude?He always seemed very buttoned up.Like, you see some of the old photos of him in the club shirtless and shit like that,you're just like, who in the fuck is this?Oh, yeah, he.That's not the Vernon.
14:12I know it all, bro.Because Vernon was quiet, you know what I'm saying?Vernon was quiet before he had his wife and doing all the stuff he's doing now,whatever he got going on.This is the past Vernon.Yeah, yeah, it's established that.Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's no longer happening.Yeah, yeah, yeah.
14:28When I met Vernon, you know what I said.He was click-clack to me.That's what I called him, click-clack.Because everybody knew him from Click-Clag.Obviously, and he cried during the draft.So I'm like, is that the dude that crying?But I didn't see, I didn't know how big he was.You pulled that video with him crying.
14:39I want to see that.I seen him, right?I'm like, oh.Bro, he is huge.But he didn't know who he was.But I did.You know what I'm saying?They thought I was Vernon Homeboy.
14:49Didn't even play in the league at first because he'll be like, man, I like thatgirl.I'll run over there.What's your name?Tell me.I'll be like, you know who that is?They like, no, I'm like, that's click-clack.They like, the dude, the click-clack?
15:00I said, yeah, that's click-clack.They're like, what?I'm like, bring all your home girls, let's do it.So he loved me because I would just get any and everybody for this dude.Any and...Not that one.Not that one.That's my dog, man.
15:18He was emotional.Yeah, the one for the draft.Okay, this is the video of him too, crying.No, yeah, we don't need to face.crying video.They said he was doing like acting now, right?And he's like, well, give us a scene and he starts crying.Yeah, yeah.
15:32He acting right now, man.He isn't, uh, that is hilarious.So you were like, you were like the best sidekick of all time, basically.You were goaded as the outstanding.Delaney is an outstanding.He doesn't care about.He's legit like the people we talk about that, like, have no shame in talking tosomebody.
15:48Yeah.That is Delaney Walker.Yeah, I don't care.Like, he, and I knew he was the first round.See, Vernon flew me everywhere, D.C.Miami. I never pay for anything.So it was just like, shoot, what did you say?Go get, man, that's nothing.
16:02We stood in a penthouse in Vegas, wherever.He'd get my room. I'm like, man, what girl you want?That's nothing.That's why they call me D-Love because they're like, that boy good.That boy good.I go anywhere and just talk, man, and make it happen.So me and Vernon became real close like that.And then just in the game, you know, if he didn't know what he had,
16:25I'll tell them and stuff like that.So that kind of worked out well for him too.And vice versa.Well, you legit had to tell him,he said in the Super Bowl.Oh, yeah.You got to tell him a few.Hey, Vernon Slant.
16:38And he was born and Slant.Sometimes it'd be like, you know what I mean?The plays would be, you know how we have one word play.Yeah.And sometimes I guess he just thenstudy him as much as he should have.And like, man, what I got right here?I'd be like, Bernie Slant.
16:53Like, you get the ball.You're getting the ball.That is crazy.What is Harbaugh?When you were like, when you were at San Francisco,was he one of the best coaches you ever had?Harbaugh. Harbaugh could be coming back in the league.No, he's not.
17:08He could be.It'll be rumored every year.You really think he's going to leave Michigan?I think we've talked about this.I think it really turns into what's his team look like next year.If he thinks, hey, my team might follow off for the next couple years,I could see him dipping.Yeah.
17:19And he's not going to take a fake out.He's not going to take a fake out.If the roster's right in the NFL, like, you know, you get into a bettersituation.But I'm saying he's going to take a pay cut.If he leave Michigan, he's going to get paid less to be an NFL owner.What's he getting paid now?But to Taylor's point, like, you could look at the roster and think, like, you know,
17:39Michigan might not be where they're at right now.During the playoffs the second year in a row.Before you, you know, ultimately get fired.You think they're going to fire, Jim?I don't think so.I'm just trying to play long game.Like, you just have to think ahead.You've got to think ahead because of the coach, all it takes it's a season and a half.
17:55Sometimes just a season.But Jim is 36.Come on, bro.He ain't leaving.That's five years, 36?Yeah.You never know?You never know.
18:05You really never know.Yeah, you never fucking know, man.I hope he doesn't. I hope he did.He did.What was your experience like with him as the head man?Best coach ever.Oh, for real?I love Jim.
18:14Jim, the reason why I was able to do it, I did.Other coaches, when they wouldn't even put me on the field to be a fullback,just go lead block.Jim was like, you got so much talent.And he had coached me in the Las Vegas Bowl,so he knew exactly who I was.So at the end of the day, he was like,I need you to be pretty much a quarterback at his offense, too,
18:33so I can play multiple positions.And he was just real, man.I like coaches like that.He never beat around the bush.He was the type of dude.He would put a basketball in a court in the locker room.You come in in the morning, he's shooting.He's shooting free throws.
18:47You're like, what the hell?He's like, come get a one-on-one.Like, he want to get a one-on-one.Fizzle, though.Like, he's bumping you.You got to toss him around to get the rebound.Like, he ain't scared.And I'm like, this is the type of coach I like, ready to fight.
19:00And I don't know if I should bring this up, but that Detroit game,that's what really made me like that, man.You know, when he went over there and slapped Kazzo in the back and just kept moving.And the guy, I don't think I...Yeah.He shaked him, but he slapped him in the back.Yeah, he does have that kind of, like, mentality.He's good.
19:22He's in Jesus.Like, he's got them eyes, bro.When he started doing that, like, like, in Michigan,He got real serious.Yeah.Because it seems like, oh, yeah.He's like, what the fuck?The other coaches, he didn't like that.
19:34He didn't like that.He didn't like that.Because he was like, man, once I kick his ass, I'm going to go over there,and I'm going to shake, slap a minute back as hard as I can.And he did it.He said that before the game.Did he have beef?Did he have beef?
19:50I think they have beefing right now.Yeah, they used to coach with each other back in the day.Schwartz is at the Titans now.No, he's not.Yeah, he's like a defensive liaison.Are you serious?He's there.He walks around there all the time.
20:02I'm pretty sure that's him.I won that.Oh, yeah, I won that game, too.I just thought about that.He's still there.Look at him.He didn't like that.Boom.
20:12Get your ass out of the way.Oh, my God.Look at him.Yeah, I love that.I love how he said it too.Man, it was a rumble right there.Who's 76?That's Anthony.
20:24Just Anthony.Like Madonna?No last name?Dude, that is, that's a fucking move right there.Yeah, he-That is a nice little flex.Yeah, he did that, man.He was, he talked about doing it, and he did it.
20:39I was like, damn, this dude crazy.Who was, if Harbaal was the best coach you ever had,who was your least favorite coach you had in the NFL?Damn, man, that's tough.I hate to say that.He never know, maybe end up working for one of these coaches.Yeah.You're trying to coach?
20:55You're trying to get into the coach?I don't know.Maybe down the line it may happen, you know.I don't mean, you know, when I feel like I'm old and not able to walk.You really think you'd want to work for Vrable?I work with Braves.I'm just fucking.Bro, you don't want to do coaching.
21:08Oh, no, I like Brable.I don't know.I think I was like, uh, Vrable, huh?No, it's definitely not Brable.I like Brab.I don't have to say Singletary is probably my least favorite.Yeah.It's because, and he was old school.
21:22We hit every day.It was crazy the way we practiced, the way he talked to us.It was just, it was like...A little disrespectful.A little disrespectful.Really?You can see what he did to Vernon?Yeah.
21:35He played with him.I saw that, but you never know.Like, he's got the image of himself.Like, you know, you watch his football life and everything.The way he's, he's a family, the football player.He's a family guy.He's football inside and out.So you just never know what the context is.
21:49I mean, he a family guy.Obviously, he had his family there, but don't mean every coach ain't a good coach.I mean, just because you play the game at a high level,don't mean you're not a.coaching, you know what I mean?Were you on that team when Vernonwhen he did that to Vernon? Yeah, I was on theDid Vernon deserve that?
22:06Nah, man. He, look, bro,Vernon dropped like two passes that game.He caught a pass and thenlike flick the ball on a personand got a personal foul, took it back.He tells, he goes,you ain't that good to be doing that.He tells Vernon that on the sideline.
22:22So Vernon loses his crap.Like, who are you talking to? He said, I'm talking to you.Go to the locker room. You're done.Oh, no shitIt was that simpleThere was no contextLike practice earlier in the weekOr nothing
22:33No history with VernonOh noHe just never liked it VernonBecause he made a rap songRight after that he cameSingletary made a rap songY'all think I'm playingSingletary made a rap song
22:45I think he made a rap songOhHe came in after he kicked Vernon out the gameAnd when did the press conferenceCan't play with himWon't play with himCan't win with him, did all of that.The next day he came in.
23:00He was like, man, I, you know, I was sitting at the house,and this song came to me, and I just had to write it.And we like, damn, what are you talking about?Yeah, I made this rap song.It may correlate to some of y'all.And then he was like, boom, boom, all about me.Boom, boom.All about me on Sundays.
23:20If I don't get the rock, I'm mad.Ooh, like, just whole rap song about Vernon.I'm sitting there in that seat.Like, oh my God.No shit.This man just took our whole meeting to do a rap song.Yeah, he did the whole rap song for the whole team meeting.Then we broke up.
23:36Like two minutes and 30 seconds of rapping.Yeah.And just disrespecting Vernon.Yeah.What was Vernon doing during this?Bernie was back.You had to sit near him.I was sitting right next to Bernie.
23:45What was he doing?He's just looking, bro.Vernon is just staring at him.I was dying.I was sitting there.God damn, Bernie, don't cry.That's got to be.Don't cry because that shit.
23:57is that would make me mad.Like, not a, like a sad cry, like an angry crybecause he can't do nothing.You know, like where you can't do nothing, you're just so mad.You just start crying.You just start crying.I've been there.I've been there with malarkey.
24:09God, that is fucking wild.Yeah, he made a rap song, bro.I'm sitting there trying to picture that.Dude, that would be the most insane thing that's ever happened.Like, you'd almost think, hey, this happened.It's all about me.You kind of address it.Yeah, he addressed it by making a rap song.
24:24And I was just like, and then,And, you know, that following week, we lost that game, and they fired that man at halftime.No way.Yeah, they fired our, they fired Singletary at halftime.What year was this?Right.And then was Tom Sula your head coach?Yep.
24:39How fucking awesome is Tom Sula.The best.We want every, we want all, we won the last of games.Tom Sulu was our D-Lion coach at Washington, talking about Italian.Oh, bro.Talk about chain hanging down.Chain hanging, button down.You want to dub your money, fold it up, put it back in your pocket.
24:54Yep.You say, you want to know how to be fat, not you eat it.double hoggin. I said you fucking, you piece it, doublehoaget. Just like that. Crush a case of beer. No way.You would go and go after practice duringtraining camp. It'd be him.Look at a picture of him. Coach Minusky.Yep. And they'd sit and have a beer. You had Minnowski too?
25:11Have Minnowski too.Bro. He was a soprano-looking guy,dude. He was connected for sure.He was the man. I'm not able to love.You're going to double your money full that thing put in your pocket.Yeah. He had, he say say ins like that alla time. But when he became, I think we won our last two games with himas the coach.
25:29But then they hiredJim Harbaugh right after that.Tom Sula's the fucking ass, bro.He bad, hey, comp.You know what I got? I got what you call. Fuck you money.They paid me in San Fran.They paid me.I'm coming over here. I want to be here.
25:42Yeah.He said, you think I'm splitting wrestles.You see all the reps that guys get split out therein the field? He's like, I getto make those decisions. Nobody tells me how to run myroom. Hey, he's notlying. He is not lying.I love it. You do that voice solid.
25:56He does.He's like very good.You literally just, you want to seek out sitting with him in the lunchroom because he just got stories.Really?Best, man.Him and Minuscchi are like best friends.They vacate together.He'd say, yeah, hey, Will.
26:08You know how you want to go on a vacation?He's like, you find the rich motherfuckers that take the yachts.They want to go to Europe.He's like, when they part their boat, they're over in Europe for like a week or two.He's like, then you tell the captain driving the yacht, he's like, you just pay him.Half of what they're getting paid, and then you get the yacht.He said, you just find the rich people that docked their boatsAnd they're spending time there for a couple weeks
26:32He's like, then you can pay the captainAnd then you get that yacht for a priceCameras on my boatJust for that reasonMy GodPeople can do thatThat is so trueYou park your boat somewhere
26:42And that captainIf you go to another state or cityThat boat just sitting thereIt was just sitting thereYou ain't lineHe said you've got a vacation with the family for two weeksFor two weeksThat's what he's saying bro
26:55He's a legendWhere's he at now?What's he doing now?I don't know.I don't know, man.Jim Tom Sula.See if he's a coach somewhere.I know he went to...
27:01It says Jim teacher.Where is he now?It says Jim teacher,but I can't imagine.That is not true.They said the press conferences.You know what I got?I got, fuck you money.
27:11I'm here because I want to be here.Where Minuski?Minuski's in Minnesota.Minnesota.So, you know, I got that.We only came here for two reasonsto chew bubble gum.Yeah.
27:20And kick ass.And I'm a lot of bubble gum.I got that from him.Because he used to do that.When he played with Kansas City,He used to do that every game.And when he became our coach, I liked him so much.He always would come mess with me and joke around and stuff.
27:33I start watching videos.I'm like, oh, I like that, saying.He's a crazy.He's a crazy, though, too.He's crazy, too.He's fun.He'll come in your room and just come in your room and surprise you back.Yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:45Hey, back, we're going to hit this guy.Thich, we're going to put this.Just fucking draw over the boy.Thish.Hit him.You fuck them all.Yep.And you're like, hell yeah, bro.
27:53Yeah, you're up now?Come on Tom, Jim.Wow.Wait a girl.We still got...We took a yacht over the Euro.We still got NFL Europe.You got the family out there.
28:04That's just 2000.Yeah, okay.I'm about to say, we don't have NFL Europe no more.Something is...Something is crowsed.He's an EFL.What's the EFL?Elf?
28:13He's elf?I don't know what it.They can't.What?Hey, no one knows.Is that the New Lee?Dude, that's hilarious.Bro, just a monster dip in, dude.
28:25That's...That's funny that you know them two dudes, brus.That's he been funny.Thish, fuck him.You just fucking hit them all.Yeah, you would have liked them too, though, Taylor.I'll promise you.We didn't have nothing like that at the Titans.
28:38Sounds like you guys had a bit of an interesting deal over at San Francisco.Well, he was at Washington.They went to Washington after they came from San Francisco.But in San Francisco, it was just like the Titans,we had a different coaching staff every year.So every year, that's why I know so many coachesbecause they all came through the building and they all got a car.Yeah, it was like, y'all terrible next.
28:58Y'all terrible next.No way.Yeah.And I feel bad because the coaches get fired even when the players is terrible.And we was in San Francisco partying every night when we is having to lose after the game.We have a bus waiting for all of us to take his party.We was terrible because we didn't, we just partied every night and did what we want.It was San Francisco.
29:17It was like lit, you know what I mean?And then as Jim Harbaugh came in, first day he did, he came.He was like, I'm about to burn the grass.And we all like, damn, what the hell he's talking about?That was the first me.He's like, I'm going to burn the grass.We like, burn the grass.He's like, yeah, because I want to find all the snakes.
29:34And then he, every day, he was releasing cats.Cats, like, hold on, we might be next.So it was just like everybody started to change around with Jim.Because he was bringing in cats he played with at Stanford.That wasn't no names.He just knew that they worked hard.And he was like, this is what I want.This is what I want out of everybody.
29:52And them cats that came from Stanford was just like,running hard at probably doing going hard yeah hard cats like okay at all he he let us know he don'tcare about big names right now I'll let you go if you don't do your job so I think that's how it is tooit's like because even if you're on a bad team the media saying oh it's the coaches the playersare going to feed into that be like me you got the coaches you're not playing well because you'retrying to have your job yeah the next year on the roster doggy dog world dude everyone's just tryingto get theirs everyone is just trying to get theirs what did you like the locker room comparisonbetween the Titans and the 49ers, like,
30:25what did you, like, find yourself enjoying more?I would have to say, when I was in San Francisco,when I came in the league, it was different, right?Because 2006, it was hazing.It was just like, you know, they can treat us a little different.You know, they can do a lot.So it was almost where you, I think that's why I had that mentality.When I got to the Titans, I didn't really, if you was a rookie,
30:47I didn't talk to you unless I thought you was going to be good or something like that.You did not.You have some funny stories about it.I've said this in the podcast beforeDelaney would literally walk uplike guys would walk up to Delaney in his lockerand he'd be doing his little routinehis little skin routine or whatever
31:00my dude would no one took longergetting ready after Bradges and this manset up around his locker tooHe's got to have the speaker there and likehe's got to have a fulland it'd be like a third or fourth round draft baghe'd do that was draft he'd be like hey Mr. Walkerlike nice to meet you and he'd like
31:14I'm not going to shake your handif you make the team I'll know your nameand he would just go back to do whateverand he would see his poor cats like so likedefeated, so deflated.Because they're mean Delaney.They're mean Delaney Walker.Meant Delaney.
31:27It's just because like...I did Moss Delany though in a summer.No, I liked it.When you came in, I kind of was like, I watched it.I'm like, okay, this dude crazy.And then you had gotten into a lot of other stuff on those fighting and stuff.So I'm like, I like, oh, I say, I like old linemen is like that.I don't want an old lineman where I can come up and they be like, I can probably beat this dude up.
31:44Like, that shouldn't be the case in football.The old linemen should be like, I mean, we can fight.But, you know, he may beat me up.Yeah.But if I can be like, I can whip this dude, I don't want him as an alignment.So when Taylor came, I was like, okay, let's see.He went to Michigan.He seemed crazy.
32:00But then we played like this flag football game.And this dude was out there running routes, catching passes.I'm like, oh, okay, this.He caught a pass on me.I kind of slacked on him.I kind of was just sitting back and he got behind me.You mark that.You mark him from the way.
32:17He was the phone.I go, this is fucking mine, dude.He scored a touchdown.I'm like, okay.And then after that, I started hanging out with Taylor,and I was like, I like this dude.So I talked to Taylor before that.I knew he was going to be a player anyway at the end of the day
32:30because I just hung out with him.But any other dude that came in,they had a brand new car, like chain on them.And you ain't did shit.And I'm pockets.Every time you're on the pockets, you pockets.I had a nickname for anybody.If you did anything you did, I didn't like.
32:49I probably was going to say jokingly.But it was real.But I meant it.Yes.And you know what I'm saying?I think Cass felt that.But to me, that's how I feel like I'm going to make you better.Like, don't think you good because you're not good yet.
33:01Who was that safety that went to, I think it went to Nebraska?Oh, oh, oh.That wanted to fight you, that one that one.Yeah, dude.Like, dude, practice, something happened.Delaney did one of those real jokes.No, no.He was just like disrespecting this man.
33:14That's when the eye watches first came out.And he brought one.And I walked up said,damn, bro, you're gonna go broke.And he would have legit took you dad.No, he made he went to the car.He remember he ran to the car and everything.Bro, he was in your face.
33:30He was like about to legit fight Delaney.And Delaney was sitting in his locker.He's like, in his face like this close.I was like, he's like in his face like this close.He was like, you ain't going to do shit.You're not going to do nothing.You're Uncle Tom.I said, why I'm my Uncle Tom?
33:42The coaches, because the coaches kiss your dick.I'm like, because I'm the Uncle Tom because they kiss my dick.How am I the Uncle Tom?You're going to get me cut.I, bro.I can't get.get you cut. You can get you cut. That's what? I was just talking to him like,come outside. I said, come outside for what? Come outside so I can whip you.
33:58Bro, it's cameras outside. Why are we going to go outside? I was just joking with him the wholetime, just trying to like egg him on, but he was so mad. I said, bro, all I said was youreyewatch was expensive. Why are you bad?That's what you said. I said, you're going to go broke. I said. You're going to go broke.That's way different than being like, hey, man, that's a pretty expensive watch.Hey, I question this manBecause he had like seven kids tooYeah, and he had
34:25He brought like, he had likeThe DBs was buying all type of carsYeah, they were going a little crazyIt was going crazyAnd they weren't good thenHang on, be easy on my guy, DamoHe was my roommate my senior year in collegeBut that was my dog though
34:38Yeah, he literally foughtHe fought a safety of oursOver a bag of fucking chipsI believe itThat's why he got his new teethYeah, I believeYou fought who?He fought another safety of ours
34:48Over a bag of chipssome Jimmy John chips.We were bowl prepping, and they came in,and the other safety, Harvey came in and took chips out of his back.He's like, come on, man, I ain't playing that.And then they, like, said something back and forth.I'm, like, sitting in the second.I was, like, early in the morning.
35:06We're about to have a defensive meeting.They get up and start scrapping.Legit fighting.Yeah, yes.People start breaking them up.So Harvey waits down in his locker room later that day before practice.We all go down there.you know how you break, everybody's getting taped doing all the thing.
35:21Harvey's waiting in his locker.Damien walks up to him, and Harvey just sneaks him, bro.He hits him right in the mouth, knocks out his teeth.And we all come over to break it up.I look at Damon.He's like, bro, he snubby dog.He's got blood all down his over chips, bro.Yeah.
35:35It was the most wild thing, but I'm not surprised you're in that story.He was always ready to, like, we was joking around or we was doing the walk.We was all walking through to go to the bubble.And he was, like, showing everybody like, look, I got one.I got a watch.I got the eye watch.It was hard to get at that time.And I'm like, man, I ain't even got one of them
35:52And I'm probably the highest-paid person on this teamI'm like, hey, you're gonna go broke, broBrough?Damo's a big jokester, too.Like, he's always cutting jokes with everybody.He took that one, like, I cut him.And it was like, you a bitch.I'm like, who a bitch?
36:07And then as we walk, you a bitch.I don't walk through.He's so, I can feel him staring at me.Don't walk through.I'm like, he's mad.So as we walk back in, he run up, like, catch his fate.I'm like, Dave.I'm about to fight shoes.
36:22I was like, I don't do that.I don't talk crap, bro.He's like, oh, you're a bus, real.I'm about to go get the burner.I'm like.Now my dog, Damo.I'm like, Damien.You got the same homies, though, back in Cali.
36:34Because one time I go back, somebody like, man, you know, Dame.I'm like, that's my dog.He's like, that's my dog.I'm like, oh, yeah, he's like, he told me what happened between you.I said, man, that was a bull.Like, nothing really happened.Like, you know what I'm saying?We argued and everything.
36:48But I didn't argue.I was kind of laughing it off.But he was just like, yeah, he told me y'all got into itand you didn't want that issue.I was like, you're right, bro.That's fucking wild.Professional football player.I'm not a fighter.
37:02So, yeah, if he said that, then cool.Like, you know what I mean?Right.You know who I was at that time?I'm going to fight you, brother.Like, there's no way.Who I was at that time?They cut him right after that.
37:14Yeah.They released him right after it.He said to go to Pittsburgh and he didn't show up the training camp.that's when he just retired.Yeah.Oh, for real?Mm-hmm.Training camp will legit make you question everything.
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38:22and some chef came out, some cook.Oh, yeah.You know Casper.I'm like, what?Oh, yeah, Casper's my boy?I was like, who's Casper?He was like, oh, just someone I used to know.I was like, you don't get a name like Casper.
38:35That's a scary nickname.You know what I'm saying?That's a scary ass nickname.It was weird.We was out one night just chilling.Wasn't a lot of people out.That's how the guy was able to see me.And he was work.
38:47He was the chef in the kitchen.Yeah, because it was like a Wednesday night or something.Like a Wednesday night.He came out the kitchen like, what up, devious?What the hell said that?No one knows that name.So I'll look and he like, what up?Oh, how Casper, how baby Casper.
39:03I'm like, what up, bro?Like that.I've never seen him before because I guess he'd been in the pen this whole time,but he knew who I was.So then we, and then he was like, man, that was kind of weird.Taylor was like, that was weird.Who is Casper?I said, oh, shit.
39:17Long story, brother.You know what's going to say you're like, damn.You ain't even going to talk about that.But out of nowhere, though, this dude, I'm like, what's you doing out here?He's like, family.Like, of course.Yeah.Of course.
39:33What else can we go to?Oh, yeah, we were on that.Yeah, you got, you, I felt like you had really good treatment from Vrabel.Yeah.He had treatment from Vrabble, Malarkey, Wizz and Hunt.Not a lot of dudes.just messing with Vraib that first year he was there.I know, I don't know.
39:50You always had like, I mean, you were just,you guys had such respect for each other that you would get your days off.Like, you ain't really do.Was that 2017?2018.2018, that was Vrabble's first year?Yeah, that was the year where I did that, uh, I did that, uh,yeah, that was hilarious, good.
40:05It was so spot on, too.So spot on.But you was good at that, though.You good at playing people, yeah.You can, you can do people so well.But you, that, the Vraib show?was the best.They had me in this past training camp.
40:20They just said, like, stretch and bravehit me up, hey, you want to come in and be bravefor a meeting?I was like, man, I haven't been on the team.I haven't been on the team.I don't come in.Not everyone know who you are, but they know who you are.Yeah.
40:30You had half the guys react like,oh, so everybody was kind of like,oh, let's see what happens.And now I'm just going off on dudes that I'm barely knowing.Remember Cody Hollison?Yes, you killed him.He was killing, Cody.Are you the most talented?
40:41Are you ever going to be the most talented?Yes.Killed him.You went up to that little wall.Right?Went over to the wall.He's at a wall now of, like, guys that exemplify, like, what we want the Titans to be.Really?
40:54Really?He was, like, a three-time winner.Really?Yeah, like, a three-time winner, and he, like, went over and put the wall.Cody?Yeah.Are you that fucking dude?Yeah.
41:02That was so funny.Getting Jeff Simmons, anything he did.Well, he wore a T-shirt.He wore a T-shirts as I love Jeff Simmons.He really does, yes.I mean, he's a defensive guy.Of course he loved Jeff.He loves, I mean, there's a good reason.
41:15Yeah.The guy's a dog.Yeah.Oh, yeah, he's pretty good.He's a monster.But Jeff, there was a clip in practice where Jeff kind of like swung on somebody or like pushed after the play.And you know how Ray would be on anybody that first year, like doing stuff like that.Like he's cussing, he's cussing him out.
41:31And I'm like, oh, Jeff.Hey, anybody who wants an example of leadership, Big Jeff, I know you're frustrated right here.This is exactly how you be a leader.Anybody else does this, you'll get cut.But Big Jeff, you know I love you, brother.That's what Cash used to say about me.Like, hey, no, remember.Terry used to say that.
41:48He'd be like on our by week.He said, if any, he said, three guys.Say, where's y'all?He'll be like me, me, you.And like, Marcus.Yeah, Marcus.Raise the hand.They said, if anyone else get in trouble,
42:00they're y'all getting cut.Them three guys are on the team,but anyone else get any trouble,you're getting fucking cut.Robiski is so funny.We would be doing,installing our offensive game planand Rabiski would be in the kitchen
42:13eating grits.Yeah.Our office coordinator.Offensive coordinator.They would ask him, so one year,Marlarki would go,he would ask anybody a question about the offense.He'll be like, what you got on, whatever, 32 trap?
42:25And Taylor would tell him, then he go, Terry,what is, what is this play?What everyone got?Terry, be like, blah, blah, blah, blah.He didn't even know the only way.He would really say it just like that, too.Like, he would make a bunch of noises and guys just start laughing.Yeah, we'll start laughing.
42:42Our game plan in them was so easy.Yeah, like we literally, like, ran it.on first and second down, and then third down was like,hey, I hope we can make this third down conversion.Well, that's what we was.We was going to run, run, run.And if we can throw, we'll throw.And then we'll just go to Delaney.
42:55Yeah, most of the time we're going to run it.You were, like, the tight end that you didn't get as much notoriety as all the other big-name tight-ins.But I remember, like, in Washington, you guys,that you guys came to Washington.And it was literally red zone.It was just all like, hey, Rahim Morris, I remember it.He would be like, this motherfucker can play.Like, we have got to double this, dude.
43:14Like, he ain't going to have.He ain't up there in all the headlines with all the other nightside is,but he's better than all of them.Just trust him when I tell you that.And, you know, I get a lot of grief on that with speaking on that,but it was just because we wasn't winning a lot of games.Obviously, a lot of people didn't watch us.But why is it if your team don't win games,
43:30even if you perform at a high level that we not talked aboutor rated higher because your team not doing well,but you still doing performing at a high level every time you play another team,they're trying to stop you.They can't stop you.Why is that an issue?but that's just what the leadThe media markets, dude
43:47I mean, if you look at the Titans media marketcompared to like Philliesor any of the New YorkNew York teamsOh, it's not a day.I remember when I came in Rack.Rack was, because Rack was with me in Washington.And I remember like the first cold practice
44:00it's like there's like a few reporters standingout there in Rack's like, hey,com, you ain't got to worry about shit out here.Like they don't like make headlinesto try and tear people down because D.C.'slike a stepping stone to like ESPN's and shit.So there's drama all the fucking time.You can imagine the drama between the RG3,the Kirk Cubs.
44:14cousins, that saga, just everything, bro.I mean, we still see it with Dan Snyder and all that.But it's like, I came to Tennessee and it just didn't seem,the media stuff seemed nonexistent at the time.It was like one villain and that's it.Exactly.It's just like a, it's just very small.It's like a small sample size.
44:28Like if you were doing that in Dallas, I'm sure you'd probably still be getting loved.Oh, yeah.Oh, but you know what?And I told when I, AJ went to Philly, I say,it's going to see, it's going to be different.You know what I'm saying?You're going to start seeing a lot of different stuff.And look at him.
44:43Look where he at.Look what he doing.What's different stuffare you talking about?Like social media platform,getting endorsements outside of football,making, getting the revenue outside of football.That's how you grow your revenue outside of football in a bigger market.
44:56I'm watching them, he's doing commercials.He's doing all these like partnerships.He's getting, man, I'm like, that's what I like to see.I mean, I hate, I don't want to hate on nobody to ever play with us.I want to see everyone I ever play with just be successfuland get the bread that they deserve because why do it?Why not?The window so small, too.
45:14Not forever.Not forever.And honestly, you know what I'm saying?Tennessee is starting to grow.It set us back, though.When we, this season first started, they talked about Tennessee, Tennessee, Tennessee, Tennessee, the team, Tennessee to team.You know, we was getting all the primetime games.And now all of this craziness, you know, the games was falling back.
45:33We ain't going to get them primetime games now, watch.And that's what I'm telling you, we kind of be consistent so we can get them headlines.We can still get them prime time games.But I don't know what it's going to look like after.You can be shitty.Like, I know I said Dallas already, but you can be Dallas and be shitty,but you're still going to get primetime games.Still get prime time.
45:50When they was not playing well, they were still getting primetime games, no matter what,because what?Dallas market is huge.Jerry Jones did an excellent job.You get what I'm saying?But the Titans are getting better.And here's the issue, too, is like their offense, our offense isn't flashy.Like, it's not something that's going to put up a bunch of points and stuff like that.
46:09Unless you're still winning consistently like you're talking about, and King Henry's being King Henry going after a record.You're not going to get, like, prime time slots.Like, that stuff, fate, like, now that they've dropped the couples,it's going to be like, damn, or, you know.All right.You see all the headlighting games already.I know.Like, the Chargers game, they flexed that to Sunday night football.
46:26Yeah.And it's just, you hope it doesn't happen to the Titans because you want them to be successful,but, like, we got to get, you got to be more consistent, like, you're saying.But, like, that is, that happens.Like, Vrabble, like, Rable is the best coach you ever seen.As far as, like, coaching a team.They're going to write the wrongs.But you lose three in a row.
46:43it's so quick.Like when I was watching the game yesterdayand saw it in the third quarter, the fans booing.Yeah.It's like, bro, you guys don't remember eight, nine years agowhen we could barely win, we won five games in two years.I was at the stadium.Buddy, you were there?
46:56Yeah, I was there.And it's just like, dude, you can't.Yeah, it was tough.It was tough.Like, the Titans fans have been given a gift.Now, I understand, like, the standard is getting higher and higher.It's been below the standard the last three weeks, a few weeks.The last three games.
47:08Yeah, the last three games.But, like, when we got here, it was not that.No, they didn't have a standard.There was no standard.It was just like, hey, we're in the NFL.I would go home and I'd be like, old people would be like, hey, you play football?I'd be like, yeah, but the Titans, like, oh, arena?I was like, no, that is in the NFL.
47:22They have an NFL team here.They have an NFL team called the Titans.Like, legit, like, Titans have been put on the map.I just think you got to give a little bit of grace.Obviously, firing John Robinson, the AJ trade, like, that's fucking tough.Yeah.And you think, like, hey, how is it going to get better?Like, Rable's going to make it better.
47:39You know how they is, though.They've got to get some legit talent in there.You know how the league is, though.Like, it's a performance-based.I know.The entertainment industry in general, it's a performance-based world.And some people think, like, some of the criticisms are, like, you had the core guys with,like, Derek and everybody else going at the high level.
47:53Like, you had that little window.And people are now talking about, is that window fizzling out?Because Derek's getting older, it's like, damn, the opportunity that we had to, that the Titanshad to, like, be great or go after a Super Bowl?Did they kind of fuck that up or mess that up the way they performed?I think Derek's getting older, obviously, because that's how years work.but I don't think his, like, talent or, like, how good he is has changed.I think you've, you've had injuries in the office line.
48:17You've treated your best receiver, so now you can stack the box.Like, it is much more difficult for him to get the consistent yards he is getting.Without AJ, Julio, like, even FERC-ser when he's going off.Like, you know what I'm saying?Like, John Hsu Smith has gone now.Corey Davis.The frustrations of you had AJ, you had Derek, you had all, you had these guys at this point in time.You trade AJ away.
48:39You do all these things.And now it's like, fuck, what?What are they even going to look like if they make it to the playoffs now?There will be a dramatic change in the Titans locker room next year.Oh, yeah.It's a dramatic turnover.It's like chess pieces, you know what I mean?That move that they made with AJ didn't work out.
48:53You get what I'm saying?It did not work out.And a big trickle effect happened off of that.Just by us playing AJ and what he did, I felt like that was a trickle effect.They was like, we didn't want to get rid of AJ, but we did.And then now look what happened.You know what I mean?Look what this guy is doing.
49:11league right now.Fuck.No question.He's going crazy.You know him like, you know he's just hype.He wakes up every single day and good year.But anytime you can go in and put him numbers like that down in your old squad andyour old squad and know that you're part of the like a front runner for the Super Bowl.
49:26Right now?10 and 1?11 and 1.Yes.Win fucking off, dude.You know, he's feeling good.Like, you win.He can be happier than AJ is right now.
49:40No.He'd be happier than he is.I'm happy for AJ, but don't get him wrong.I was, I was, I'm still happy for the times.We still in the, we division leaders.It don't really matter.We can get in the playoffs and start playing great playoff football and get back towhat we need to be.
49:54I feel like we'll get, if we get to the playoffs, we can get some of the old line healthybecause I think that's where it starts just getting our old line back healthy.Because that's key.We got to be able to protect Ryan and let Derek run the ball, obviously.Because I know Ryan get a lot of bad critic about,holding the ball doing this.I feel like he's just trying to make plays.He's trying to do something to get the team going,
50:17get the motivation going,and at the end of the day,it's going to take all 11 of them.And he's been hurt too.He's grinding through injuries.He keeps coming out.He hurt because he know he got to play.Like, honestly, he got to play.
50:28You know what I mean?Oh, yeah.The best chance for the Titans to win is with Ryan.I mean, that's why you paid him that much.I mean, being healthy too.Remember I was saying,I was like the Titans defense,they only got like four or five starters out there from that.
50:38I didn't know that.I did not know that.Original 11 at the beginning of the year.Like, they, you know, Jeff's out there playing, but he's on a bummed ankle.Yeah, he hurt.Our whole D-line and our whole old line just hurt right now.They just, once we get them healthy, I feel like it'll be a change.Losing Harold's hurt, too.
50:54That's the biggest thing that identity going into playoffs.Yeah.It's literally all the fucking is.No, the thing that worries the Titans fans, though, is that usually this is the time of yearTitans are playing their best football and obviously dropping three.No.And that's making people worried.Kevin said it the best.
51:07He said, usually around this time, this is when people was playing.playing playoff football.Right.And we ain't doing that right now.And that's true.And that's what we got to do.I think if they get that mindset that this is the playoffs now, it starts right now.If we want to get first seed, have home field advantage, we need to start right now because
51:26that's what's going to keep us in this playoffs, gives us better opportunity to win the Super Bowl.So.Do you find yourself identifying more with Titans over San Frans?Titans for sure.You're out there stabbing that sword in the ground I saw.Yeah.I'll be at the games all the time.I'll be low key, though, man, this last game,
51:42I, man, it was crazy.I thought it was, I, you know what?Our fans are starting to get crazy, too,because if we was walking out,they was ready to scrap with them Jaguars,because them, the Jaguarian friends,Duvall, and all that, I'm like,I mean, they haven't won in Nashville.
52:01How many days was it?In 2013.Have not won in Nashville.They have not won in Nashville.Three thousand days or some shit like that.Oh, we went two and 14.my rookie year.And one of those wins
52:11was against Jacksonville at home.They went nuts.They finally won.Like they finally did it.Yeah.They were here on the,the commentators were basically sayinglike this Jaguar's team
52:19is fired up.Fired up.In the crowd, everything.I was in the guy.I'm like, wow.You don't really think about thatas a Titans player.Like you don't think,
52:27oh man,they want to beat us so bad.You just think it's a division opponent.You know,you don't think there's like a rivalry there.Yeah.You're just kind of playing.Yeah, they had it out for us.
52:36I was sitting there.Some dudes said,Duval on my face. I literally almostsmacked them. I'm like, I don't even play.Let me chill out. You know?Yeah. Let me chill out.They are fucking...I mean, good for them, though.
52:50Because their franchise has beenin the dumps the entire time.Yeah, they got a coach.They got a coach right now.The only time, like, 2016, they were good.Yeah. Rather than that, it was...When did they have the run to the Super Bowl?2016? They went to the AFC championship.
53:05AFC championship, right? No, they lost two.Who did they lose?The Patriots, Steelers?What?No, they beat the Steelers.They lost the Patriots in the AFC Championship.And the Patriots want...We ended up for this podcast to bring you Sport Clips.
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53:54Was it our best year in 2016?No, our best year was 2019.Oh, y'all, best year, I was hurt.Was it out there?Yeah.And paid still, though.Good for you.I was getting paid still.
54:06it out there. That shit sucks, man.It is awful being on IR.Oh, my God. No. Now you see what on.Yeah. When you got, you broke your leg.Yeah. Like, when you think that was like the beginning of the end for Delaney Walker?Definitely. Yeah.You know what? Because, man, when I had the surgery, this dude goes to say, man, you're kind of old.That's tough. When you had the surgery, that's what he said.
54:26At the end, he said, it may not heal. Like, you know, you, well, she threw me that.I was like, okay, let me see if I can get an extra year in this thing and see where it goes.You know, it's still jacked up, bro.Anytime I do anything, it gets, it's swallows up, it's hurting.So I already know I was done.I couldn't do it.I was training.And I told my agent, he's like, you think you got to say, bro, I don't know.
54:51Like, do I really want to do this?You know what I'm saying?Teams was because every team was like, oh, we just want to pay you 1.5.You was hurt.We don't know how you're going to be.But if you ball out, we'll give you a bigger contract.Bro, you think I'm stupid?You're going to pay me 1.5.
55:05I'm going to be the best tight.and that tight ain't going to be making $8 millionI'm going to be making $1.5. I'm not aboutto do that. You're crazy. That makes sense.It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work for that much money.I'm a third down only. I told everybody I can dothird downs. You want to pay me for1.5 third down.
55:20Bro, but even before you got hurt, we would go towalkthroughs. We would go to walkthroughsin the bubble. Delaney wouldn't dowalkthrough. He would bring out a chair and sit down.He would be, oh, no, the turf. The turf.We would sit. We would all be doingjog to your stuff andLenny be sitting there making fun of people while he's sitting in this chair.
55:39Just a sole chair in the middle of the field.I couldn't practice on the turf, bro.You're going to see what I'm talking about now.Like, when you have injuries like that, the turf hurts your whatever injury you have.My knee used to swell up all constantly.They had to keep draining it.They like, yeah, and I'm not.You wear those big-ass shoes.
55:55Like, oh, it's good for my feet.Yeah, I used to wear.Cadillax.He had them fucking boats.How are you not tripping?I know, they're sweet, though, huh?They're sweet.Hey, it was the most comfortable in shoes.
56:06you ever, I'll still work out with them to this day.Really?But someone stole my other ones.I'm still, I'm a, ooh, I'm gonna find out which one of them tightes took my stuff.So, like, you know, they let me back in the facility when I got cut.They sent me my stuff.Oh, real?Oh, yeah, but I was missing half of my shoes.
56:25That's brutal.Yeah, have my shoes.I found one of the equipment managers.Nah, they quit me.I know, I was buying them shoes and giving them money.I know they wasn't going to take that stuff.You got to hook the boys up in the room.I always, the equipment room and the training room and half the cleaning people,
56:39I gave them money every holidays.Oh, I brought them stuff.So I knew that they would never take nothing from me.What was your best gift given?Maybe $1,000.To each of them?Yeah, I gifted everybody a thousand dollars.It's like $35,000 worth of people.
56:54Yeah.Yeah, I was like, fucking, man, it's there.I had just signed that deal.I was happy, you know.He spread some of this out.Christmas bonuses for everybody.You're talking about, I remember I wanted to ask this,you're talking about when you came in the league in like 06 and stuff
57:10and the hazing.Do you have a legendary hazing story?You know, they never haze me.But did you witness a legendary hazing story?I did.I did.So it was, what was this dude name?Jenkins.
57:27Was it Jenkins?He wasn't good.We drafted him in the second round.He just really never came to.But it was a receiver we drafted a second.He'll come to me.Did y'all see who it was?Okay.
57:40I'm surprised Blasso.No, he's a liners guy.He was a receiver.Jenkins, he, in 2000 and maybe eight receiver.He went second round and first round for the San Francisco 49.His last name should be Jenkins.A.J. Jenkins, baby.Yep, AJ Jenkins.
58:02Look, got my own point right now.I usually memory bad to playing 14 years in league.I can't remember nothing.But so AJ, he brought a car and then they got his car and took it to the airportand left it there for like two, three weeks.Racked up fees.Oh, man.I've never seen that before because they were like, he come in like somebody took my car.
58:26Like, oh, one of the things parked it around the corner.And then finally the coach come in like, man, look, whatever here, wherever his car at,we don't care.We're not going to say none.Just have his keys in his locker room.and a note to where it's at.And then we get,when he'd get there,
58:42his keys,they got a letter like,your car in this parking lot.He'd go to the parking lot.The parking lot,the fees was like $10,000.What fucking parking lot is this?You know, they was doing it like the high,
58:53like the,like you only keep leaving there for like a day.You know how the feed be like.And then like 300% increases.Yes.Oh, that's brutal.I've seen that,but we've seen a lot of them,
59:03but that was the best one I ever seen like,a player went to the extent to have someone come in,take that man car, drive it to the airport.This all happened while we was all at practice,so we don't even know who did it.Who came in and did it and took the car?We still don't know who did it to this day.Who was the person who did it?
59:22That's incredible.That is awesome, dude.I heard Brian and Swanky got a bad one, 2013.When they code redded him, they tied him to a goalpost.Yeah, they did that.They taught them mustard all over them.Yeah.Y'all used to do it.
59:35The O-Linman's always had the best ones.They would get everybody.It was usually just like haircuts.Either your hair or your eyebrows.It got me good.What's funny is the O-Lignment are always like about it too.Yeah, but then our year, Taylor year, I think,was it your year?
59:51What was that what?When they find everybody,they find all the kickers that cut all the people here.That was 2015.That was the next year.That was the next year.What happened?So they went.
01:00:04So that bullying thing came out with old buddy and Cognito, right?Yeah, Jonathan Martin.Is that his name?Incognito.Yeah.Cognito.Cognito.So that came out.
01:00:18And then they came, they had a meeting said, we're not going to do this.We're not going to check out hairs.We're not going to do any of this.They did it anyway.They did it anyway.They had cats.They was pulling cats like, who did it?Who did it?
01:00:31Cats was snitching.Cats.was snitching.I think Brett Kern got fined.Brett Kern got all the kickers got fine.No.Iron got fine.So the couple of linens.
01:00:44You're too.Yeah.And I was also Wizand Hunt's first round pick.So you went, you know.A couple of linements got fine, too.It was.It was, who were the old dudes?I think Swanky might have got fined because it was a young room.
01:00:55Yeah, it was a young room at that time.But a bunch of dudes, a bunch of dudes on the offensive line got fined.The kickers, the specialist, like the, I think Bo Brinkley got fine.Oh, Brinkley got fine.Yes.They find cats.They were like no haircuts.And then literally that night.
01:01:08No hazing.No.Yeah.That night we did haircuts.Everyone got haircuts.I was so mad when they cut my hair, bro.Posted it too.Yeah.
01:01:16Who was the old Chance Warmac?I forgot about Byron Bell.Man, our team was terrible, bro.Look how bad our team is.The Chance Wormack thing is the funniest thing.Our dummy call was Chance.Yeah, still is.Still is.
01:01:30Whenever we had a dummy call, like it ain't a play,we called it.chance.Yeah.Because he would jump off sides on the dummy call every time.Chance was the best.That's a bad.He was the best guard in the league of that three things he didn't move.
01:01:43And the three teams didn't move like slanting a gap or anything like that.You can beat chance.You can't beat him.But if that boy moved.Oh, but if it was a pool play.Him and Andy LaVitry.Bam.Yes.
01:01:54They both pulled in the same play.Hit each other right at the center.Bam!In the middle of the field.Yeah, we were so bad.Center, Andy Gaelic.Oh my GodThat's like a movie football team
01:02:06That's just trashGo down to our defenseYou don't know our defense of wayYeah you get you get two guys pullingAnd running in each otherI know that was broThat looked it so terribleMichael Griffin's like the most
01:02:15Noteworthy name on the sameThat and drill CaseyDrill Griff wasHe was terrible that yearLike he wasHe was still a nameHe was still a nameBut it was like
01:02:25Definitely in the back half of the frontBrianA rack poleDerek MorganDrell CaseyHe had rackYeahWhere?
01:02:33Brian Radford.Henry Williams said.Oh, shit.Wood.Wood had 12 tackles that year.Wood was a dude that was always underrated on our team.Underrated.He would have so many tackles and not even be close in the Pro Bowl.
01:02:47I know.Not even, but he wouldn't even be like a...Not even an alternate.Not even an alternate.Yo, that's crazy.They did Wood.I thought Wood was a great player.Andy Gaelic.
01:02:57But again, that's a game.Rookie.Man, Gaelic.Being that Tennessee market.Yeah.Yeah.He used to call the wrong.Every time he would be out there, they'd be like, who the Mike?
01:03:07He'd be, I'm like, 56.Yeah, yes, yes.Dude, who was the guy that was, he was a, I think he went,I don't know what it's cool he went to, he was a linebacker.He was not very smart.He ended up going to, Zach Brown.Zach Brown.Zach?
01:03:22And I ended up making a parole bowl with them.I know.No, not with us, with the Buffalo Bills because he led the league and tackles.And then he went to you all next.And then no way got him in free agency.Yeah.He signed like a one for like two and a half up to $4 million.After making a Pro Bowl.
01:03:35I know.And that's actually, he took my spot.And that's when Tom Sulla said, hey, because he saw us discouraged about it.He's like, hey, I got what you call fuck you money.I don't have to split refs.That's literally that whole.Really?Zach Brown came in.
01:03:47He was like, he murdered somebody in a preseason game.And just from there, it was just cover one.Running back was sitting down the flat.He was just over him.Quarterback throws out of him.He just damn near.Dude was athletic as fuck.Athletic is fun.
01:03:58He never worked out.Never worked out.But it was like a.champ and wrestling in high school.But when he would talk to, you couldn't understand the word he was saying.He was really Alabama.Where are you from Mississippi?North Carolina's where in the college?
01:04:09Oh, but where he from, though?He's from D.C.Is he?Yeah.Oh, man.He didn't talk like for Hockey, Florida.He'd get out of Wednesday practices.You know what I'm saying?
01:04:18He'd get out of Wednesday practices.He would, like, lay in our meeting room and just prop his legs up on a chair and talkabout how he's got back spasms.Oh, he always had back spasms.He would just make something up every time.He always had back spasms.But I don't know how he took up.I remember playing against Conn,
01:04:34I used to, we used to love Compton namebecause your last name, we were like,Well, Compton.Yeah.Every time we talked about when you guys came out to Washington.Yeah, we came out to Washington.We lost that game.We shouldn't have lost that game.
01:04:44Yeah, yeah, we did.Radcl had me in a blender that game.Yeah, Rodman.Rack was nice.That's when he had them commercials going,talking about, you know, the Pyramid,the Allstate commercials or, uh,is that what it was, Allstate?
01:04:55Was it Allstate?Maybe that's just the voice connection.I think it was just in D.C.though.I think it was in D.though only.Yeah, but I'm sayinghe got a pro ball.
01:05:03Like he was,he was like the man.I think he made three.I think he made three pro balls.You was like the man too.You was a starting linebacker at that year.It was,yeah,
01:05:11you know,I dabble back in.When he came to Tennessee,I'm like, shit,we get Will comp.Yeah.I know.I don't know what happened.
01:05:24Oh.Oh.Oh.We're looking dressed for you.Yeah.I was,I sunk, bro.When they drafted?
01:05:32Yeah, I'm going to borrow my boys, man, from back home.And we traded up and drafted Rashon Evans.And I'm sitting there like, fuck, man.You already know what time it is.I know, you know what time it is, bro.You definitely know.Because Rashon ain't, but he was hurt the entire training camp with the hamstring.I know.
01:05:48He still just starts.Like, that's just how it fucking goes.And it's kind of sad.It's like that.And I tell people that all the time.Like, if you get drafted, you more likely going to play.Yeah.I don't care how, if you're not even good.
01:05:58And they see you not even getting good.They said we got to throw him out there because we got to show face.Right.We got to see if he can be good.He may not look good, but he may be an athlete when he's on the field.I really need the GM or the owner to be like, hey, we kind of fucked that up because we'll play him because you guys made the investment,but you guys are going to have to know, like, he ain't it.He ain't it.
01:06:17Yeah, it does suck that way.Like, drag picks get more lives and, like, you get minimal opportunity.And when you're sitting there and then that happens, you're like, fuck, you already know what time it is.Yeah.Because that's why.Unless you sign a monster deal and you're just a fucking man.off a Pro Bowl. I mean, yeah, if you saw the monsterdeal and they know you the man, you're going to be good.
01:06:34You're just like, I'm hurt, butwe'll let you get to yourself. Don't worry. We know what you can do.Because that's all what it comes down to. We knowwhat you can do. Right. You know what you can do.That's why me and Vrable was cool,because Vrable, like, I played youevery year when I was Houston. You destroyed us.You blocked us. I know what you can do.
01:06:52Get healthy. And that's justhow me and him kind of kept it. ButI respected him so much. I even went out topractice when they was like, this show they are.I'd be like, no, let me show face for the teamso they don't think that I'm justnot doing anything because I didn't do a lot.You know what I mean?
01:07:07What a life to live?What a life to live?He was a fucking man, bro.He really did.You weren't somebody like, you know,you weren't somebody you looked atand like fucking Delaney gets all this bullshit.No, yeah, because, you know, I practice hard, though.
01:07:19I'm the crack back kind of guy.I'm going to run and crack back on you.I'm going to score a touch.I'm going to get in your face.Like, I took practice as, like,playing it as a game.Because then if I play it as a game,the game, when I'm in the game, it'll seem like practice.
01:07:32You get what I'm saying?It wouldn't be hard.It's stressful.That's stressful. That's why I always wore my game pants.Always did that because I want to make that happen because that really wasn't a thing in Tennessee.And then you start wearing the game pants up.And low-key, you start seeing more specialists or more like D.Bs are doing that.Now more receivers are doing that.
01:07:48Everybody doing that.Everyone does that.It's just better for you.Your pants don't feel this tight.So when you get to the game, they kind of already like, I've been doing this all week.So they don't have to stretch them out.I'm normal.It's normal to me.
01:08:00I'm used to it.I just had ways of just going about just trying to perfect my game.So it just made it easier on Sunday.You're the fucking man, dude.No, I wasn't the man.You know, I was just...You were the man.I was just helping Marcus out.
01:08:14It is nice to know that you were the man.No, I just...Marcus didn't have anybody to throw to you, but you.Yeah, that's what I'm saying.That's how I...Just imagine, like, if we had AJ and we had the Derek hearing we have now,when I was playing, like, jeesh.Like, you know what I mean?
01:08:29Man, I always think about...But you had DeMarco who was a stud.But DeMarco was a stud.DeMarco was a stud.But we had Derek Herring and DeMarco at that time.And I feel like our offense was based around DeMarco.So our plays didn't fit Derek right.But I thought Derek, every time he got in, he'll bust for like 20-30.
01:08:49Yeah.Because Derek could probably tell y'all, if y'all ask him this,I used to be like, if we put Derek in, we're going to win.If we let Derek spend, we're going to win.I always used to say that to him, like,because DeMarco was great.Don't get me wrong, but I knew what Derek Henry was capable of.You see Derek, he'd be like, okay, he can really beat somebody.
01:09:05He was hurt every week.Yeah.When DeMarco had the plan I had after him, you know what I said?DeMarco never practiced.He didn't do nothing.You know, he just come out playing the game.Had a fat lip in it all time.He always had chewing his mouth at practice with his hat on staying outside while looking at the plays.
01:09:22Didn't do nothing.So I knew DeMarco was getting to that time because you got to think of,about it where in Dallas he had, what, almost 300 carries when he was in Dallas?Yeah.They ran him.They ran him.They went to Philly for one year and it didn't really work out like that.They traded him to us for a fourth-round pick.
01:09:39And he was, but I remember Derek being like really, I didn't know him the way I know him now,but you could tell like he was super discouraged his rookie year.Yeah, Derry.Because he went from Heisman.Heisman, like the man.I was at the draft room with him.He was just falling.I'm like, we're going to get him.
01:09:55I literally said that.I said, we're going to get him.Yeah.Like, how you know, I said, we're going to get Derek.I guarantee.And then when they came across that, I told you all.I was in the back.Like, I told you all, we're getting Derek.
01:10:05We about to be unstoppable.I was like, you know what I'm saying?I was like, we're going to be unstoppable.Yeah, when you get Derek Henry, it was like, you didn't,and he was so big even then.So big.When I saw him in the green room, I was like,yo, that ain't Derek Henry.
01:10:20That's a D-N.Yeah, I'm like, that's a D-N.Right.Like, he's what you look at and you're like,that's a fucking.pro-ass football player.That's what when you were a kidand you watch pro athletes,
01:10:31you think all of them look like there.The presence of America Henry is like,and you get to the league,you're like, oh, not everybody's really like that.No, he shouldn't be a running back.Like that.Do you like, Gerald Casey, you're like,you're like, you're saying, oh, really?
01:10:39Yeah, yeah, that's, you know,I'm a lot of Jerryl fan, but man,he had sit there with them pitties out,get his ankles, stay like, bro, put a shirt on.Yeah, no shame.He had some thing.In their small ankles, looking like a two spotsor two straws at the bottom,
01:10:55real.But he bald, bro.He followed out.Cass would come up and be like, man, I met Jarrell.He played?Yeah, yes.Have you seen him recently?Yeah.
01:11:05He looks the same.He looked the same.We was at a golf tournament, me, Brian, Derek, and I saw all them guys.They all look pretty much the same.Rack, though, you can just stay looking the same.Yeah, Rack was built like that too.He was like, oh, that's a legit D'N.Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:11:20He had the traps.He got the voice.He still looks like he worked out, too.He still looks like he worked out.He's going to look like he worked out.He got them jeans, bro.Yeah, he got them.jeans. I still, you know what's on back of my mind?
01:11:30Whoever the hell said I got fat.Whoever said I got fat.He said he said he doesn't know who called him fat. He's like, it's still sitting in the back of my mind.I'll tell you after the podcast.Doesn't feel good, does it?I mean, it.And that hurt, huh?Oh, my God.
01:11:48He said, somebody said, I'm getting fat in the bad way.Yeah, like, what do you mean?Ph.No, like you, he said you were gaining weight.That's what he said?That's what he said.What are you doing?Have you seen him?
01:11:59I'm at like 250, 255.What do you play at?What'd you play at?So you are a little fat?I mean, I'm not.I'm not getting chase.Buddy, you don't.I said I'm not getting chase.
01:12:13You think you can play right now one season?Yeah.One season.There ain't no way, bro.Come on.Oh, you're going to have the game for three years.Chris Johnson thinking he could beat me in a race right now.Third down.
01:12:23Yeah, Chris Johnson's not being well in a race.No, I don't know.Chris Johnson, I definitely, he ain'tworking out, but he probably still fast as hell, though.He's obviously fast.Hey, come on, oh, third down only.No, I want to say third down only.Back half the year.
01:12:36No, no, I think I can come in right now and play, like,will I be gassed?The first few games?Yeah, I'll be gas.I'll be coming out, but I think I can run with them right now.Yeah, we can play flag football team, whatever.Why don't you go play for a year?Flag football?
01:12:53No, just call somebody back.Let me come play.I'm not going to try to go to the Olympics with flag football, bro.Fly football is an Olympic sportIt's about to beAnd you're gonna try and do itSureNo it's fucking honest
01:13:05I knowYou know I'm aboutYou feel on that in the feetI can be quarterbackFor sure I'll do itNo I'm notI can't play right now manI'm just joking
01:13:13I'm tooI'm too out of it nowI don't even think I can go and get hitYou know I thought about itWhat's crazy is you see some of them hits nowLike you're like fuck manI don'tYeah I'll be at the games
01:13:23Like can I do this anymoreLike I knowThat sounds soft to sellIf I get hit, I think I'll just get days now.I don't think I can tolerate getting hit anymore.It's weird how your brain low-key gets callous to the hits.Like the first week of camp, you're like, damn, I got a headache.And then like, two weeks after camp, you're like, oh, I'm good.
01:13:40You should take taking town all every day.Yeah.That part two, though.Yeah.That part two of me, we got to take all type of pain medicine, headache medicine.I mean, I'm done doing all of that, bro.I don't want to take none of that shit.You enjoy it?
01:13:55You enjoy the afterlife?Yeah, oh yeah.I mean, I work for the, I kind of work, I don't work for the NFL, but I kind of do.I work for the Legends community.So, I mean, I get paid to pretty much be around football players all day and talk to football players.So it's just life kind of easy right now.That's nice.That's cool.
01:14:14That's awesome.You know, because a lot of guys struggle.No, they do.I feel like the way you were going, the way you unfortunately had to go out through injuries and stuff like that.That's so I'm just asking how it's been.Yeah, because some dudes like, you know, you know how it is.You go from that kind of life.I got to figure this shit out for real now.
01:14:30Yeah, hell yeah.But, you know, luckily I'm old.So 38, man, I kind of came out at a good time.I think that was long enough.You know what I mean?Of course I wanted to play.I didn't get a Super Bowl ring.That hurts.
01:14:45You know, that's what we play this game for.But I feel like I made great friends.Got to experience a great life just playing in San Francisco and in Tennessee.So I think I'm fine with all that.I know I'm fine with it.That's good.It's tough, dude, when you see people leaveand you can just tell the kind of scrambling,
01:15:07like what's my life going to be like now?Yeah.Because, like, you know, when you hurt like that,like me and you are and you got to spend the whole timeaway from football, kind of,and you almost be like, damn, like,this is what life's like?Yeah, you know what I mean?
01:15:24Because then you got to start doing other stuff.stuff. Like, I was doing so much when it was almost time to come back. I was like, damn,it almost hit me like, do I really want to play? You know what I'm saying? Then I had, I was like,nah, I'm going to play. Because I always, in my mind, I always be like, damn, do I want to play?This is my 12th surgery. Then I think about it all the time. Then I come in and I'll tellTaylor, he'd be like, you, you back? I'll be like, last year, brats. Last year, like five yearsin a row. Last year. Five years in a row. He's like, I heard that last year. I'm like, no,that's the last year.
01:15:56So I always joked about it.But sometimes when you joke about it,you need to make that come true.And I think that's what I was going.Like, I knew it was going to come true at some time.So just kept joking about it until it was real.You know what I mean?It comes for us at one point.
01:16:10It does.It does.I mean, Tom, a quarterback.If we was able to play quarterback,would I still be able to play with his leg?Of course.Yeah.You're not going to get his hit as much as a tight end would.
01:16:22Or you ain't got a kickback as much and try to block a duderunning at you full speed at way as muchas you was leaning on you and doing stuff like that.That helps the injuries occur.You know what I mean?When you're the quarterback, I'm sitting back there like...Especially the rules are now, too.All them roughen the pass are causing.
01:16:38That one yesterday in Miami.Wild, bro.That was a regular tackle.Yeah, he put his arms out and everything too.Like, oh, I know I can't put my full body weight in this guy.You feel yourself going down through the middle and you're like,fuck, let me...Yeah.
01:16:50I put his arms down and stuff.I mean, as a defensive player, how...Do you want me to think about that when I'm trying totrying to beat this dude, and I see him about to throw the ball,and I'm just coming at them to try to stop him from throwing the ball.Like, dude, come on, bro.Yeah, no, it's ridiculous.It is ridiculous.
01:17:05Because I hold every play.So, you know, and I think about not holding, but I do it.You got to.Imagine what dudes are, like, in the 60s playing with their elbows?Like, who, I can't block you just by putting my hands on you.No.I can only block you by holding you.And I, when I train little time, I be like, bro, I hold every play.
01:17:23If you're not holding, you ain't winning.I promise you that D-Limbinggonna toss you.You know what I?Yeah, you gotta get in there.He can grab you and throw you, and that's not a holding.But if I grab him and hold him, I'm holding.But he can grab me on the side of my pads
01:17:37and fling me to the side to make the play, but that's not holding.So what's the difference of me grabbing you and pulling you closer to me?And so they can't see it, right?Yeah.So that's what I'll tell, Cass, I'm going to cheat every play.And, uh...No, he...No, that's real.
01:17:54When you reflect back on your career and you look at just the Tennessee Titans,and you said this is that you're not the best tied-in in Titans history.Yeah. What is the argument for you to be the best titan, tied to end?He said he's not.He said, Frank.Frank Whitechak still got him.I mean, does he?I don't know.
01:18:14Can you pull up Frank side by side?I think they got me listed higher than Frank, but he got me beat on some stuff, though.you go strictly by it you said when you are doing your retirement speech oh yeah i say because we we were twodifferent type of players though when frank played the game he was just like an extended lineman yeah i cancatch the ball and do all of that stuff but only reason why i said frank because what frank didin the music city bowl and yeah i mean the the legacy that he carries music city miracle music yeahyeah was it the music yeah the music city miracle yeah they really hang on to that still no i knowAnd what he did in that and just the legacy he has in Tennessee,
01:18:55I just don't compare us as the same type of player.You know what I mean?She felt like you were in Tennessee with the down years.And you felt like the notoriety was as high?No, no.Because if we do it like that, that dude had Mason.He had Eddie George.He had everybody.
01:19:11So he had studs on his team.And we did, but didn't, you know what I mean?So I just don't compare.I don't know.That's what I'm saying.If you feel like you would have got more Pro Bowlsor made a couple runs to the Super Bowl.Like, maybe that helps justify.
01:19:23Yeah.You're like the best playerand like the worst team of the situation.There you go.Yeah.Yeah, the, uh, but when you're talking about how,if you're, if you're killing it and you're in a small media market,how are you not getting as much individual accolades?
01:19:40That's like the same situation we're talking about right now.Yeah.Like, at the end of your career, you look at the numbers and it's like,you probably were the best tied in.Yeah.More TDs and two, like,Two less seasons.Oh, really?
01:19:52Yeah, I need more TDs and two less seasons.Yards?5,000 for...Hmm.5,000 for Whitechick.He got more than me, Doni.Oh, 5600.And he had 44, is this white check?
01:20:13He's got 5,800.Delaney.Oh, he had...Go to Dwayne again?They're, what, 400 yards off?Yeah, I mean, you guys seem pretty similar.You got 32 yards a game.He's got 33.
01:20:29and you say he's got more touchdowns withyeah he got more touchdownsthan deline he's got more touchdowns than deliney did with seven seasonsoh okay I thought that was flippedno Delaney had more oh I have more500 receptions average in 11.7what's when you're on bad teamsthey actually were tied 28 I was I was adding
01:20:51San Francisco in with oh okay we both had 28touchdowns with Tennessee butFranks was in nine years and thenI mean, it is close.Yeah, it's close, but it's still the lanes.Real good.That's not.I feel you.
01:21:07And it's just a different look.They went to the Super Bowl, lost in the Super Bowl.That's crazy.I look at stuff like that.If we would have went to the Super Bowl, played in Super Bowl, won the Super Bowl.I mean, then you could compare them things.I didn't even get to play in the, in the AFC championship game with you guys.That'd have been nice to have them
01:21:29It'd be nice to have themYou get what I'm sayingThat's stuff sucksYou can look at the other way tooLike you realize you're on IRYeah that stuff sucksThat's why I'm likeYeah the only good
01:21:40The only pause is about being on IR is likeYou're Wednesdays and ThursdaysYeahWhen you're like I'm kind of just hanging outAnd the boys are grinding right nowBut then whenever Sundays or the game comes alongThere is definitely a deep pitOh yeah
01:21:51Of like damn I wish I was just out there at themEspecially when you seeLike you'reposition not having as goodof a day as...And then you play the game in your head,like, I would have been doing this.But really, you never really know.
01:22:04Like, you know.I got the same exact way.I feel like both, too, though, like,okay, maybe not, maybe not for both of y'all.But speaking from my shoes,if I'm injured and a dude behind me's playingbad, yeah, you play the gamelike, I wish I was out there helping the team.
01:22:17But if they're playing good, you're like, fuck.Yeah, you don't want them to be playing.I mean, I...That sounds selfish, but that's the nature of the fucking game.You know what?That's the nature of the game.I don't necessarily...Like, for me, for me,
01:22:27human. That's why, because you're human.What round were you, were you drafted lower, right?Six rounds. Six round. Like, cutting our teeth into the league or getting our,getting, cutting ourselves a role in the league. Like, when Roshan got drafted in the first round,you kind of know what time it is. And for me to, like, get an opportunity to play againor to, like, show that I got filmed, I need somebody to get hurt.Yeah. Not that I want them to get hurt. Yeah. You just need an opportunity to presentitself because I'm not going to get fast-tracked. Like somebody who has a pedigree that's like,
01:22:55oh, or they get paid a lot.Like, that's just how that is.And once I did get to start in Washington,and for those couple years that you're referring to,it's like when I would get hurt,you're like, it's one of those things.You don't want to be out long because you,it's not like the guy behind me or next to me
01:23:12doesn't look athletically same or better than me.I just, like, know the game,so I already just need to know,I cannot, he can't display something goodbecause then the question is going to be up.Do we even need a play cop again?Yeah, yeah.Because I don't have the background
01:23:25that's going to be like, no, that's kind of spot when he comes back.Even if the dude behind him's playing better.That's just not my reality in the NFL.I don't know about Joe.We all three of us had to grind.But this is the business we end.They put that.They do that.
01:23:37They do that for you, though.They say, look, we're going to draft this cat to challenge you.Even though he's not in a higher draft pick, like, say you went first round, this dude went fourth.But if you get hurt and this fourth rounder start bawling out, I get what we'll say.Taylor making how much?Yeah.That's how it happens.How much?
01:23:54Do we need Taylor?Can this guy do this?And in my mindset, I was kind of on that too.Like, when I got hurt, I'm like, damn, I want my dudes to do well.But if they, like you said, if they do too well, it's like, do we need this dude anymore.And that's what happened in my case.It has nothing to do it balling.No, it has nothing to do it.
01:24:10It's what the owners think and the GM think.Yeah, yeah, yeah.It's truly your own shit.And then when Johnoo got started going and they knew they found a way to get Johnu toball, like, okay, we can't throw it to them deep.But if we give him a handoff or a screen or like a quick pass, the man is explosive.He can house it.He can house it.
01:24:30They start seeing that like, well, Delaney's owe $8 million after this year.John is under a million.Who do we keep?Let's release Delaney and see what John O can do.And then he did it again the next year after I was gone.So it was just like.It's like the nature of the game.But you ain't going to like, you're dabbing out.
01:24:48You're like, John who's your boy.That's my dog.So I was even, I'm happy for him when he getting off.I would tell them all the time.You're here to replace me.And at the end of day, even when I'd be like,draft the fucking tight end,yeah, they're going to draft the tight end.
01:25:00And when I fall off, that tight end that they drafted,it's going to replace me.That's part of the game.And I know that.And it's not that I'm not salty of the player.I'm salty of the GM in them because they don't really have loyalty to us.Right.They don't care really at the end of the day.
01:25:18Yeah, but is there a reason to be saltywhen you already know that's the situation?But still, after all the,all the work we built, all the stuff I did for the team, everything I put into the team,and to do it just to release that player, not even let them play out their contracts.That's crazy to me, you know what I'm saying?It's like salting this until you understand that that's the nature of the business.Right.
01:25:38But you understand you've been in, you were living 14 years.Yeah, when you're older and you've got several years under your belt and stuff like that,you kind of just see it for what it is because you understand that that's a game.But when you're trying to fucking cut your, cut your teeth in the league and like trying to carve out a role,like playing balls, all you want to do.Like, you want your situation to work out.That's just the way it is.And again, it's not like you feel,
01:25:59it's not like you're upset that the player out there is doing well.Like, it's like we're showing playing.Anytime I had questions, like,you're trying to help out as much as possible.But I'm sitting there knowing if I'm going to get a situationor extend my career,I'm going to need somebody to play bad enough for me to go out thereor get injured.
01:26:15And that's just like the nature of being in that kind of spot.Well, see, I was the guy, Katz was like,I need Delaney to get hurt, so I can get in.obviously because I was the starting dude.When you're the starting dude, most of the time to do it in the back,like, the only way I'm going to get in if that dude get hurt.They're not saying they want you to get hurt.Just like, okay, maybe he's dumb and doesn't know the playbook well
01:26:33to where it's like he'll be a liability out there.And then eventually in the middle of the game or about, hey, go in there and go.And you got to be fucking ready to play.You got to be ready to play.And that's the thing about being in the league now, you better be ready to play.It's the next man up.And that's what our motto in Tennessee is the next man up.they,
01:26:53Vrable really about that life.About that,that is about that.That is for sure.I never had that.I mean,obviously our situationswere different in the beginning,
01:27:01but like whenever I was hurtor anything,I never thought.Now granted,no one,when I got hurt,no one ever playedwhere I was like nervous.
01:27:08No one ever played to the levelwhere I was like,oh damn,they might not want to keep me.That as like my timewith the Titansis coming to an end,you look at who's playing right now
01:27:16and you're like,hey, I hope,I need you to ball.Because I don't want to,I don't want to leaveafter,Brandon Hopkins, Mike Ruse, and myself,and there's been, like, a lineage of good tackles.
01:27:26I don't want that to be a drop-off after.Like, you're kind of rooting for the team now,because I've only been with one team the whole time.Like, if you're sitting there looking at,I want to get another contract with this team,you kind of needed to be in a spot to where,hey, we want Taylor to come back on Tennesseebecause this spot's not, this spot's not cut.
01:27:43This spot's not, like, doing well enough.Like, you kind of, you want to be won it.You want to be missed.Yeah.You know what I'm saying?You have an opportunity to come back.If you're not hoping they do it.do well, you're on the back part of your contract,
01:27:54so it's like, okay, we'll go aheadand shave this cap station because we'll get somebodycheaper. But see, that's what, and see, his scenariodifferent, because if you look at what he gothurt, just like I did, you know, injurieshurt, but see, Amasa, John who playedwell and Fursor, they had twotight ends that were out there doing
01:28:09their thing. They're like, as long as we can keep these twoand replace one. And Firk was like an undraft of Harvard kid.It's like, oh shit, we got to have no money.No, but he would get open.Just the minimum, yeah. See, now you look atTedisers, when he hurt, they, theythey pass in the left tackle around like a baton.Hey, four honey, your turn.
01:28:25Yeah, four hundred, your turn.Who can do this?Four honey, your turn.Going on, boy, Dennis, all wrong now, right?I'm not saying Dennis.I'm not saying, bro, I'm not saying he's not good.He's just, he ain't playing his best football right now.And at the end of the day, it shows, you know what I mean?
01:28:42You look at the-If you're Dennis, you have to see this moment as, like, this is my opportunityto carve out a true role to even look forward to next year.Like, I'm trying to dethrone a kick and be like, hey, let's cut out this money.Yeah.And save that on cut down.Because we got somebody who's established.Like, that's like, I'm just talking.
01:29:03I love how we're just talking the mental, the mindset of each different spot.Yeah.Because we've all been in, like, situations to where it's either I are or somethingor where you're like, man, what are you sitting there watching the game?You're like, am I about to get the place if you're all the way wrapped up in the playing football?I knew it.I was telling people they was like,man, what about the next?
01:29:21I said, bro, I'm getting released.They're like, no.You know, I said,you ain't seen John knewwhat John knew been doing in FERG, bro.Why would they pay me $8 million?They don't even pay them both of them that combined.All three of them combined.
01:29:35I'm like half.Not even half that.So I am out of there.When I was doing treatment in John Carl,I was already new.I'm like, what up?John?He like, man, hate to do this, Delaney.
01:29:46I'm like, man, I know what time it is.You know what I'm saying?You're like, yeah, you hell of a player.Da-da-da-da-da.Hate to do this too.We don't want you to take a pay cut.We just can't even tell you to take a pay cut after what you did.We just want to give you the opportunity to go find another team.
01:30:01But at this point, I'm still hurt.So they cut me on while I was hurt.So, you know, they had to settle me out and do all of that crazy stuff.But I knew it was probably done for me.Yeah.I mean, when I got this ACL, I went to John's office, like before I went to California to get my surgery.I was like, hey man, I know what's going to happen after this year.And I just want to tell you, thank you for everything.
01:30:22Thank you for believing to me, blah, blah, legit.And, you know, he hit me with, well, you never know.I was like, listen, we don't got to do this.Like, just, I'm just letting you know, I know what's about to happen.And I love you and appreciate you.And we kind of like...Do you still feel like that's the case?Because you were talking about on Kitt.
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01:32:13do you actually feel like that's the reality of the situation?Then I get cut?Yeah.Yes, I do.I think you owe me $14 million next year.I've been, I've had two ACLs in three years.Now, the way the ACLs work and all that stuff in the back end that like you and I have talked about,that whole story will come out eventually that, but obviously not right now.
01:32:33But when you look at somebody and you're like, oh, they've had two injuries in three years,like it's pretty cut and dry.It would be wildly egotistical for me to sit here and be like, oh, the Titans need me next year.They can go draft somebody.They could trade for somebody.Yeah, I mean, ultimately, the league doesn't need.That's always a hard thing.Now, if I was going to give an argument for myself,
01:32:52left tackle is one of the hardest positions to say, hey, we need a guy.You're not just going to go out there to find Terlewan on the side.There's five or six in the league that can do it on a consistent basis.Everybody calling for your, everybody that would call for your head at certain points.It's like you can realize you can't just go find a Taylor Lawan out there that can be a plan on the perimeter.Come on.You can't just trade.It ain't an easy trade to trade for us.
01:33:14No way.Ola got released.What?Yeah, Titans just...What?It's not official.Isn't that the...You sure this is real?
01:33:23Yeah, I didn't want to bring it up earlier.It was like 30s.He been bowling, no.Do we know why?He's been hurt.He was on short-term I hour for a little bit.I don't know.You see the captain, too?
01:33:36I think he was, yeah.I think he was, but any...Look, this is, this is what scary.It's a perfect example.Yeah.This is scary.Hey, Ola, look, he's quick, too.Yeah.
01:33:46He broke my finger.He's the one that broke this one.He's somebody, you know what?On teams, you ain't want to have to fucking block him.Yeah, he is a, he, it was a workhorse.I watch him.I follow him.That's a tough.
01:33:56Why?Bring the boy home.Bring the boy home.You're 10 Willie.That playoff push, man.Buddy.But you don't think, though, because you told that to John, right?So John, the only one knows that you came up there and actually did that.
01:34:14I'm sure.no one else knows that youcame up there and said that you knowthis may be it. I said, oh, I said this thingin the Brable, I said, I know you got, no, it wasn't thatthis may be it for me.Up and Adams podcast.I know, I saw that. When you did that,
01:34:29I was kind of like,Taylor, you threw itout there. But no, it's not like,for me, it's not about, like, retiring.The whole conversation.Everything's a strong in day.Yeah, it's weird. The whole thing was,is like, I have a really hard time
01:34:42when I see football players being like,man, the coach is fucking me.man, if I could just get out there and I would ball in, oh, I can't believe they're releasing me.Yeah.I remember watching these dudes and being like, I will never be a person that lives in a fantasy world that much.To an extent, as football players, we all live in a fantasy world.Yeah, of course.But when I'm looking at this situation, it's almost like my own pride has to get in front of it.
01:35:03Being like, I know I'm going to get cut.I know the writing's on the wall for me with the Tennessee Titans this year.It's been a phenomenal nine years.I absolutely love it.And what you're saying, like,Yeah, the argument would be, like, you know, aside from being hurt to the last three years, like, consistently, like, your boy's been bawling for a long time.Yeah.And so, like, if they wanted to come and have a conversation, obviously, I'm always up for a conversation.
01:35:29They're going to have a conversation, but it's going to be a...Oh, yeah.Okay.It's going to be a pay cut.Yeah.Yeah.It'll be a paid cut situation.Yeah.
01:35:37And then we're talking about that on Up and Adams, too, about the retirement.Do you think about the end and stuff like that?It's like if nothing were to happen,would you be suiting up again for the Tennessee Titans?If nothing were to happen?If nothing were to happen?If they were like, they didn't even say,hey, we're going to cut you this,
01:35:53and hey, we're just staying?No conversation.No conversation.You just report.You don't hear nothing.You just report to camp.And they ain't draft nobody,because I feel like if you don't hear nothing
01:36:02all the way up and says drafts,you're kind of thinking,they're going to draft somebody.For sure, but you know.Better draft somebody.You sit there and play the game.Yeah.You sit there and go drafts something.
01:36:09Oh, fuck.Yeah.That would say they don't draft nobody.But they say they draft somebody and they use like, okay, Taylor, they're going to be a mentor.We're going to use them for a mentor.Yeah, we use them as a mentor.You're not going to pay somebody $14 million to be a mentor.Well, because you're still going to play.
01:36:23That's going to show that they're a development.They're going to develop and you're going to still be the guy for another year.That's what for another year did.Was next year like your last year on your deal?Yeah.Oh, next year is your last year.Oh, that's a big day.Let's just say.
01:36:37What's that?That's a big payday for you.No, my whole contract was like really front-loaded.No, I was very.front-loaded.Yeah.They're back getting in my last one.I think technically if you look at
01:36:46my contract when I'm getting paid now,it'd be like bottom half of starters right now.Well, and you got to, you took a 25%pay cut because you went on IR.No, I had no split in my contract.No, I got the best agents.I had the best agents in the world.See, my best agents in the world.
01:37:02See, my first agent,I got that whole 10 million because they didn't expect meto get hurt when I broke my ankle.I didn't play a game.Yeah.10 mail10 milin the bank
01:37:19I got to peeI got to peekeep telling that storySo theyI never reallyI think we was asking youI never reallygot hurt
01:37:29So they didn't evenput a clauseIn my contractFor that first oneBut that second I are thoughThat check lookedA lot differentYou had a split
01:37:39What was that?I had a splitProbably like 50%YepYeah, the one time I went on IR, fortunately I was under a tendered year, so all of it'sguaranteed.So that was like, that was like, you're like, nice.Because usually you just get that shit split in half.
01:37:52They tendered you and watched it?Yeah, so I would, so being undrafted, I was on Peace Squad my whole first year.So I had to go like FERCSA, I had to go on, I had to go exclusive rights, free agent.So you either sign the data line or you can't play for nobody else, playing for the minimum.It was like $600,000.I mean, obviously, like, lovely.But at the same time, you're like, you're like, damn, I'm a starter, and I got to get this.Yeah, exclusive rights free agent, thinking I could be a free agent.
01:38:21Then I was restricted, then unrestricted.Yeah.So I was watching for like five years prior to touch free agent.Before you even touched it.But when they tendered you.So I was 27 when I first sent for agency.But what was a tender for a middle linebacker at that time, inside linebacker?I think I got, it was, it was 1.8.
01:38:351.8?Yeah.Which I was fired up.That's a, that's basically that, the.The Titans year was equivalent to that, but it was like the highest I had got in the year.What's the tax?Because all the other stuff was four.I always got the big performance paid by the-s.
01:38:47Because you played every, you played every sound.I just got the, uh, I just got the Titans one from a couple years ago.Really?It was like six figures.Ye.And that was one you, those are the ones you don't see coming.I know.This shit was wild.
01:38:57I bet.I bet.I was like, oh, damn.That's weird.That's crazy, though, like, that they can do that to unrestricted free agents.It's, it's tough getting an unrestricted free agents.Because even if you're the man, you get franchise tag.Obviously, you still get good money, but, like, you know, it's tough to, like, make it all the way to unrestricted free agency.
01:39:18What was the tax bracket in Washington at that time?It was high.When I got here, I was like, oh, fuck, you're saving a shit low more money, bro.You saw, you saw 50, I think it was 52% of your check in DC.Here, you're seeing, like, yeah, I know.I was in San Francisco.If you get bonuses, if you get signing bonuses that don't go through, like, you're saying.seeing like...
01:39:40I know.But you bet...In Tennessee, they don't take all the taxes out, though.Tennessee, they don't take...They don't take all the taxes out.Because if not, you're going to have to pay a shitload of money.You think you got way more money than you do.You're like, damn, I got this.
01:39:57And like, actually, you know, it's 20% like, damn.They got me.They got me.Yes.Yeah, the only lovely part being like on the lower is just you got bigger the performance bonuses.Yeah, I know.And you get to be on the list that makes you feel a little bit better about your...I mean, but that just showed that you just showed that
01:40:10y'all up becoming. Most of them guys that's on that listare always key players in the leaguedown the road though because theyplayed early. They didn't get drafted, but theyplayed early and they know the game. Sothey go to another team. They usually get apayday and they become somebody.So Tennessee Titans next year
01:40:26all remains the same.If everything was the same, they didn't say nothinglike the whole draft thing and all that.Perfect case scenario. Here is what I wouldanswer that question with. If thisrehab goes better than the last rehab,went and I truly in my heart of hearts feel likeI would be the same dude or I would be
01:40:43close to the same person I have beenin my career, then I wouldabsolutely go back and play for the Titans. But if Idon't think I can be him,then...What do you think you could be him and they sit youdown and talk about a...A cut.
01:40:59A cut?I'd have to evaluate how much is that pay cut, how muchis everything? Because there is alevel of when you play this game long enoughand you make the paychecks I've been able tomake like the balances of what's worth it and what's not for your health does play a lot intoespecially having a five-year-old and a two-year-old now.And it's, yeah, I don't know.
01:41:20I mean, obviously, if I can be the same player or close to the same player I have been in the past,then yes, I would go back and play for the Titans.But if I really don't think, if I think, hey, like, this is not necessarily, like, I'm not going to bewho I thought I could be.I'm not going to watch the demise of myself.I said that on a case podcast.I'm not going to watch the demise of Taylor Luan.I'm not going to be a dude that's like,
01:41:41hey, he's hanging on.He's here he is again.He's doing it again.You know, oh, what happened to Taylor?Oh, he was great, but then this happened and that happened.And he's still in the league.Damn, yeah, he's still in the league now.I just want to be the dude that's, like, remembered as a guy, you know?
01:41:54So I just think, like, with your career,like you will always be looked at as Delaney Walker,someone who helped change the franchise of the Titans.Because I never went nowhere else and played and had a downfall.Yeah.Yeah, it was just like, yeah, like the abrupt end came for you.And if this is that situation, it would be a similar thing.I'd be looked at as a guy who was arguably the best tackle in Titans history.
01:42:14I would be a guy that helped change the culture of an entire team.And that is something that from a legacy standpoint, I am incredibly proud of, incredibly proud of.A good way to go out.And that's a good way to go.Because if you go and go somewhere else for less than, you keep getting hurt, you keep puttering along,then all of a sudden you're like, by Jason Peters, who was on Dallas Cowboys practice squad at 40 years old.Yeah.It's like, what's going on with Jason Peters?
01:42:39You know what I'm saying?I got a mad love and respect.I have so much respect for him.I saw him going to Dallas.I thought he was done too.And then I saw he was going to Dallas.I'm like, okay.First ballot Hall of Famer.
01:42:51But I think he went to the Peace Squad because Tyron Smith got injured, right?Yeah, he got a hamstring off the bone.But they didn't do that to Baker.Mayfield?Mayfield, yeah.When they brought him off waivers, that's a different situation.He's a free agent for a long time.I still don't think you take a 40-year-old man
01:43:08and put him on practice squadunless something's up.But that's that's the way the rules are likenow, right, that's the new rule, right?The way that they can manipulate the roster,it's like, put them on practice squad first.David Johnson was just on practice squadand not for too long ago and got out of everybody.
01:43:23They put everyone on practice squad for a week or two weeks,two weeks, and then you have to make a decisionif you're going to activate him to the roster.Yeah.You got to pay for, I mean, four years ago, he was the best.You got traded for like a second round pick, right?That was the D-Hop trade.Well, this is the league.
01:43:37Right with Houston?Yeah.Some dudes are just, they just want to fucking play ball.Some teams you can be the man on in another office you go to and you just not,you don't fit that system.You just not the man.And that's just what it is.And I see it a lot.
01:43:50I see cats go places and I'm like, dude, what happened to him?Yeah.It's just the system at the end or the coach don't like them or I can't, I hate to say thatthe coach don't like them, but sometimes, you know, your coach is not going to always like.Sometimes the coach doesn't like you.And that's okay.But the amount of times you hear, hey, the coach.coach doesn't fuck with me. I'm like, you're a fucking liar, dude.
01:44:08Maybe you just suck.More often than not. I hated that shit.High school, college, the whole thing. Man, the coach doesn'tfuck with me. Man, I've seen you drop a shitload of balls.Like, don't pretend like you out here.Coach just fuck with anybody that's good.Right. I know. I was thebaddest student in high school.
01:44:23I was probably one of the baddest kids inhigh school at my high school.And the coaches love me. They hatedme, but they love me.You get what I'm saying? Like, they would notlet me date date daughters. If they hadif I had the opportunity,like, hell no, he's gonna get shot before he 18.
01:44:39Like, that's what they thought.You know what I mean?But they love me as a football player.Yeah, I mean, now they hit me.Hey, can you send me a FaceTime video to my students?Maybe I wasn't going to beat, though.Because more often than not,it's something that, like, you basically hurt your own situation.
01:44:58Yeah, pretty much.It's not usually.The only time a coach doesn't like a player is if their personality'sclash and the coach is trying to, like, build something close,culturally inside that they're like, yeah, I'm not going to...This dude seems like he can be toxic to the life.But if you're good enough, it doesn't matter.It does not matter.
01:45:13Sometimes because egos will be too big on that.I don't know.With Malarkey, Malarkey and I didn't like each other,and I like made it a point.I made it a point to be disrespectful to him.He can't do none, though.Yeah, but they couldn't do nothing.You were like, you were the investment.
01:45:27Yeah, but I was still on my rookie contract then.Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, he's not going to...You were the guy, like, you were starting,and you were the first round draft.pick. Like, he's not going to be able to implement what he, if he didn't like you, or if youwere kind of on the cuss, like, if Delaney was old, a new coach came in and Vraib didn'tfuck with you. And he's like, I'm building the fucking culture. You're either in or you'reout. Oh, you want to miss practice a lot. You're somebody you can make an example of if you feel
01:45:50good about who you got behind you. It's about, oh, that'd be big news. But then Jono and Fergill,you know, we come in. But it'd be like a situation like that, I feel like.No, and you're right. Like, you got to think, Malarkey was a headstrong coach. And at that time,Taylor wascoming to who he wasand Malarkey don't like,kind of like that like,like, he wants everybody.
01:46:14If the line was like this,everybody needs to be on the line.You know what I'm saying?It ain't going to be like,it ain't going to be like,nah, we all going to be even.And that's because that's how,I only reason why I know
01:46:25because he was my tight end coachand he'll be like,you may be here,but we all here.Yeah.You know what I'm saying?Malarkey, him as a tight ends coachand him as a head coach
01:46:34Two totally different people.Like dramatically different.Yeah, different.Very different.Awful.Because, like, I can't lie.I'm not going to see here and lie.Like, when he was my tight-end coach, like a father to me, you know what I'm saying?
01:46:47Yeah, I loved him.Yeah, I loved him.Like, he was drink beer with him.He'll bring beer.His family talk, we have some good conversations in the type.But when he became the head coach, I kind of got scared of him.You know what I'm saying?It was like, what can I tell him now?
01:47:00I don't want to because he look at it differently.You know, if you tell him something now,It's kind of offending him.Like, oh, wait, I'm the head coach.You shouldn't be talking to me like that.So I kind of got scared of Malarkey when he became the head coachbecause he did change a little bit like Taylor said.He was a whole different person.
01:47:16The biggest difference between Mike Malarkey as a tight-ins coach and a head coach.When he was a tight-ins coach, I bet head coach.He'd be like, just call my Mike.You're in the league.I would call him Mike and he became the head coach.A weakened him being the head coach.I was like, hey, Mike, he's like, hey, it's coach.It was that dramatic of a difference.
01:47:32Damn.He was awful, dude.I'm so quietYou hate to see him switch up like thatThe only issue with Mikegetting fired was Russ Grimm also having to leaveBecause he was the bestHe didn't want
01:47:43You y'all know he got fired because of that rightHe didn't want Russ to leaveAnd he didn't want Terry to leaveI think it was more Terry than RussBecause we had a great off the lineI think it was more Terry tooYeahI heard no I heard that
01:47:55I heard they were like hey you had a fire TerryAnd he's like I'm not gonnaI also heard he was out no matter whatI know he called meAnd he said he was inand then a day laterI heard thatokay so this is what I heard
01:48:09I heard before Kansas City in 2017they're like if you don't win this game you're outbut I heard that John already made that decision in his headlike he's done him and Amy already talkedhe won against Kansas Citywe got our we got our asses against the Patriotsafter that I heardwhat you just said
01:48:28I heard that hey you can stay but you have to releaseBarbiscyyeah I heard it wasI heard it was Rubisket, but then someone else said it was the whole coaching staff.They said they wanted him to fire the whole coaching staff, and he said he wouldn't do it.And I don't know.But I heard it was Terry.You know, like, they need to get rid of Terry.
01:48:45But him and Terry was like, tight.Terry's the man, too.I love Terry, the man.Terry still be texting me sometimes.Terry and him was like this.But then when I was like, damn, why he wouldn't just fire Terry?Terry would have understood that.You got to understand.
01:48:59It's a business.It's a business.If he would have sat him in his office is to Terry, that's a situation.they told me I have to fire you.Like, it just is what it is, buddy.You got to go.You got to go.That's just what it is.
01:49:08But then everybody was like, oh, it just wasn't Terry.It was everybody.And I was like, he definitely wasn't going to fire Russ.At the end of the day, he can't fire that dude.No, Russ Grimm was the goat.He couldn't do it.He's the best, he's the best coach I've ever had.Couldn't do it.
01:49:22So I was like, Hall of Famer, all of that.You got, he can't do it.He changed the office line.I know.It's like the year he got there, 2016, we were the best office line in the league.And I'm like, they dug.So, obviously.if he's not going to fire that man,
01:49:35I guess he got to go.So he loyal, he's loyal to his family, his friends.He wasn't loyal to me.He was not.Dude, I remember something happened.He loved me, though.I can't even.He loved you.
01:49:46That's why it's a funny conversation to have with youbecause we have two dramatic different, like,viewpoints on Mike.I know, but when he became the head coach,I'm with you.Yeah.When he became a head coach.I was scared to talk to him when he became the head coach.
01:49:59Bro, he, something happened.We played Detroit.when we won, like, last second, I think,who was the dude that played for Houston for a long time?Played on the team for like...Oh, Andre.Andre Johnson?Yes, he made, like, the last catch.
01:50:11And I, like, I played well that game.But, oh, that Friday, I started yelling at Malarkey.Like, he and I got an argument.Remember he kicked me out of practice.Oh, yeah.And I went to him.So when you were talking about, like,when you're so mad, you can't do nothing,
01:50:23that he legit start crying,I went into his office.And I was like, I don't understand it.I don't know why you come at me.Like, I'm doing the best I can to help,like this team, blah, blah,and I'm legit crying at him.Yeah.
01:50:34I was so mad.I was so mad.And he just looked at me and he goes,that seems like your problem.And send me out from then on,I was like,fuck this guy.Sometimes I feel like if he's seen himself and y'all,
01:50:45like players,he treated y'all like that.Because, like, I don't know,because he would show us,like, footage of him playing,and he kind of was like that,the white dude that worked hard.Philip Supernova.
01:50:56Yeah.And he would just be,like, he would treat them the worst.And I just,he treated him.He treated Supernall real bad.Real bad.Really bad.
01:51:04And Supernall was like, no matter what, you knew that kid was going to throw his head into people, bro.When Supernall, before Supernod got comfortable, because I think that the last year, he got a little too comfortable being on time.He found too much of a home.Yeah.When Superdoll was, like, chipping my shoulder back against the wall, Superdaw?Yeah.Oh, my God.When he was a dog, like, psychopath.
01:51:23Psycho fighting anybody, hit anybody in practice as hard as he can lay out, do the most dirtiest stuff, bro.bro, what did he say to that one Canadian kid?Bro, because none of us liked him.He was always that super go-hard kid in practice.He was like tackling dudes in practice.He was like, yo, fucking stop.And Supernod one day gets out to practice,gets up in a team meeting and Malarke, he's like,
01:51:46Philip Supernard wants to say something.And Supernoy's like, hey guys, I want to apologize to you.Like I said, I think he said racial slur.I think he'd call him a dirty Muslim.No, he didn't say dirty.He said Muslim.But the way he said it,The way he was talking, like, in the meeting, I'm like,
01:52:02yo, did Philip call somebody the N-word?I know, because that's what he, when he was like, man, they came to me like,oh, he, Philip said something, racist.I said, what did he say?Yeah.They, they was like, I'm like, what do he say?Then it was like, he said, I don't even know it's like.I think he said Muslim or something.
01:52:18Yeah.But all he said was Muslim.And I'm like, what?I'm like, but this dude can see every black song, every, every, every,he ain't got no races in his.I'd say he crazy as hell.Yeah.But he ain't racist.
01:52:29Because they all wanted me, they all wanted me to do something to them.And I'm like, I ain't doing nothing to Phil.If y'all don't do something to them one-on-one.Phil probably was your best friend on the team.He was my best friend.Yeah.That's why they would come cry.Every time Phil did something dirty to somebody, they came and cried to me.
01:52:42I'm like, tell them.Yeah.Talk to him.Talk to him. What are you all scared for?Ask, tell them.Yeah.Because, I mean, I don't know.Phil got a, he got a problem.
01:52:52You know what I mean?He'd be ready to fight all the time and do the craziest stuff.So I think everybody on the team was just like shook a field.a little bit because what he did in practicelike when Phil first got thereI was like man dude you're gonna get hurtI used to tell him hey slow down bro likeyou're going too hard for go
01:53:11run 50 yards down field50 yards down field kickoffpop returns just hit somebodyhe was injured when I was therehe basically just talked about howthat was when he was getting comfortable thoughwhen you got there is when Phil like kind of likehe got a little money the dog kind of left a little bit
01:53:27and he was more like all right like IThey gave him two million.But you can only play like that for so long.Yeah.They gave him two million.Once they gave him the money, he, all right, he kind of shut it down a little bit.That's tough.That's tough for him to hear.
01:53:39No, he, he gave him that two million.My boy was like, hey.I'm the third time in.Not the fourth.Yeah.Bro, he would fucking grind, though.We had a 16, 17.Yeah, 16 for real.
01:53:55Oh, we were.Hated him.Hated him.Hated him.Hated him.Hated him.They still hate field to this day.It was kind of like the same thing you were saying
01:54:02with your boys on defense with me.They go, hey, we'll get your boy.Yeah, I would, yeah, sitting down on that side,like Jarrell, or not Jarrell, because Jarel was moretowards your life.I saw you.But like Rack and D. Morgan, wood and stuff to be,hey, come, get your boy.
01:54:16I bet, what's he doing?They talk about you either scrapping with Jarrellor, like, doing something.I'm just thinking like, once a year,me and Jerell again a big fight.What the fuck you owe me to do?In the games, they would be like,man, what's up with 77?
01:54:26I'll be like,he always talking, taking his helmet.me the office.See my hell out of my fucking hair.Get that shit out of there, dude.I don't know, but he calmed down.You started to calm down.At first, you used to be, now used to be Taylor.
01:54:40Because Taylor be, bro, they would have like.Chopper, chopping it to it.I'm like, we in the huddle.Taylor.Isn't that that playing Oakland?The Herb Street was getting you on that one time.Yeah, Herb Street came after him?Yeah.
01:54:50One time for that, it was against Oakland, right?Yeah, it's such a funny situation in Herf Street because I love him.I know.We're good friends now.He needs to come on the bus.I know.He will.He absolutely will.
01:54:58but yeah, he called me like a fake tough guy,like, I'm the reason this and that,like went at me hard.Yeah, I remember that.I was like, damn, he really fucking killed me right there.And then he did apologize at a Preds game.But I legit had to slim shading myself after that game.No, you, you, like, tweet like, hey, I'm the problem.
01:55:15No, you.I'm the fucking issue.I'm sorry.I did that a couple times because I got a bunch of penaltiesagainst Kansas City one year, too.I had a slim shating myself then.Because that's how you get them, bro.If you fucked up and you're like, yeah, I'm a fucking problem.
01:55:27Everyone's like, damn.I remember like four times after Brazil, people were like,don't even think about fucking tweeting Taylor after like that penalty.Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.Because I used to get penalties.You used to do any fight breakout here come, boom, hit people,like run into the crowd face first, baby, all in the name.I'm like, Taylor.
01:55:43And then I don't know out of nowhere the one game, Marcus get hit.I see Taylor sitting on the floor.Bro, Denver.That was the Denver Broncos.I'm like, where the hell is Taylor?No, it wasn't Marcus.It was Harry Douglas.because he cut
01:55:58Harris.Oh, no, he cut Harris.Yeah, in the knee,and he had to go out for a play.And Akie was like,I'm going to get your ass.And the next play,I keep, like, tossed his ass.
01:56:07And I saw this big fight,once I realized it was Marcus,I was like, I got to sit.I sat in the 50-R line just sitting there.They wanted you to be,they wanted you to be better,so you're like being over-jured.I was being OD.
01:56:16Yeah, he was being OD.Yeah, he was being, like, extra.Yeah.I turn around.He, Indian-style,the middle of the middle.Pull that picture up.And on the field.
01:56:24Yeah.I was like, my coaches said I couldn't play with the other kids or something like that.Bro, that was, because I remember a big fight breaking out in my hand, like, perfect opportunity.And I literally sat there like this, feet out of ground like this, just sitting there.Yeah, I look like, because I'm used to saying Taylor just coming.I'm going to usually grab Taylor like, right?He was always one that grabbed me.There I am.
01:56:44Nope.That's when I was hurt.That's right there, right?Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just sitting there.Sitting there.40 yards away.Yes, on a 50 yards.scuffle.
01:56:56That's the Tennessee Titan Snapchat.Bro, that's so funny.I can believe that. I feel like all the dudes who haveextra antics, like after plays and stuff, the labelis just easily to say fake tough guy.Yeah. Because anytime I've been in anotherroom and they're going over the O line, I feel likethat's all a D-Coronet would say.
01:57:12Go ahead. 77.Yeah, he's good. He can do some good things. But hey, look,he's a fake tough guy. You just got to get in his head.But Taylor were getting in the name. That's whathe was doing. Like, that's what I was saying.When that's why I would let him do is talking for a littlebit, but then when Marcus would be like, get Taylor.I'd be like, Taylor, man, come on, get up.
01:57:29I had prance back over.You know, that was so much fun.And then the Seahawks thing, when they hit Marcus.Oh, my God.That shit was crazy.Yeah.That game was the wildest game.They was like, bro, they were, that was the dirtiest game I think we were playing.
01:57:44And it was like, all the white dudes is calling them the N-words.They was like, Phil called me the N-word.Remember, he was like, 89.You got a, he got a refraper.No, no.Taylor was saying, all the white.They came to me and said all the white dudes who's saying that.Michael Bennett.
01:58:00Michael Bennett was saying that.He's like, what did you call me?He was like, what do you mean?He goes, you just said the N-word.I'm like, whoa, whoa, why didn't say that?They were saying that.Bro.How are you, how are you cool with them saying the N-word?
01:58:09I'm saying, no one said the N-word, bro.Why don't you keep saying?They're like, 89 just said the N-word.I'm like, feel?Maybe.You're like, I didn't say the N-word.They're mad.Yeah, this shit was crazy, dude.
01:58:23And was KJ right on this?Yeah, right there.Yeah, here he come right now.I don't know if I can remember.Yeah, like, do you say anythingor do you just kind of like...Most probably getting in his face.I don't know.
01:58:35I was probably just saying whatever.I think he's just getting in his face.That's Shwanky pulling me off.No.That's Sanky.That was, uh, Brian Swanky.I go up to him in a second, too.That was crazy.
01:58:50Marcus, the best, dude.Just toss him on the ass, dude.Look, he's still...Bro, still.bro. We need to getSam Chancellor.They had a fuckingThat was like the ending of Legion of Boom.
01:59:03Like that's when we were still they...We destroyed them.They were still dead.We did.Destroyed them.We did dummied them.There was a play too where someone got held upand it was like five yards
01:59:12and the old line just like dove in thereand fucking smoked.Like we got like five more yards.It was like to seal the game.They was trying to fight the whole game.I'm like, bro, after we started winningthey were just trying to fight.They was on field though.
01:59:22They kept, they was on field.Even after the game, they was on me like,hey, 89.said that.I said,bro,I mean,if they stayed on that
01:59:3189 kicked the entirety of the game.No, Phil wouldn't say that.I don't think he said it,bro.I just think he said something.Delaney was definitely a dudethat he'd be like,hey, man,
01:59:40you could say it.Go ahead and say it.Like,just trying to tee up.Oh, yeah.Delia's a good friend.Kind of guy.When I was in high school,
01:59:47I went to an all-blood high school,right?Like gang blood in blood neighborhood.Every time we playedCrip schools,even though I was in a Crip neighborhood.Every time we played a Crip school,out blood,
01:59:56they'd be like,Hold up. No, I'll be like, no, blood.That's how you get people. You got to make them mad.The game, this game can get people angry.And when they angry, they don't do what they're supposed to do.They get out of character.So I used to be that guy.Yeah, I'll tell me, call him a nigga. I don't care.
02:00:13Like, you know what I'm saying?We're going to win the game.We're trying to win the game.We're trying to win the game.All his fair, loving war.We try to win the guy.If he's going to get thrown off by that, go on, call him.Like, you're high school.
02:00:24He never said it, though.Bill never said it.So you basically encouraged Phil to say it.I never encouraged him to say.No, hey, that's a bad.I'm okay.Let's go back to your high school, quick.There were blood and Crip schools.
02:00:36Yeah.All blood, all blood.All Crip, all blood, yeah.It's the neighborhood you live in.If you live in that neighbor, a blood neighborhood,you ain't going to go to a blood school if you're a Crip, right?I don't know.Yeah.
02:00:48We feel like we're getting educated right now.Yeah.So in California, you got neighborhood.You know, probably just like, look at Delaney.If you're a blood, you know.Taylor's just sitting in there on country with us, and he's a blood and cryptog.Yeah.Right?
02:01:00In California, you got just different neighborhoods and certain neighborhoods.The schools is right in that gang neighborhood.So you're more likely to see that gang if you go to that school.So that's what it pretty much was.And I went to Pomona High and it was a known blood school because it was in the islands.I know y'all know what that mean, but that's what they call that area.I was thinking of islands in California.Yeah.
02:01:23I was like, Catalina?You're talking about Catalina?Hey, just the neighborhood.Talk about neighborhoods.And I lived in the north side.I lived in the north side in, like, ghost town area.So it's like, they crips.I went to a blood school pretty much, you know.
02:01:40But everyone liked me, because I didn't really bang like that.And I would play football.What do you mean you didn't bang like that?Just like a part-time job?Because, like, you go back, back to where your environment is?Where you is.Yeah.I never really had to bang because they all knew I was a good football player
02:01:54and then no one really could beat me up in my neighborhoodso they couldn't make me be a gangbanger,but I hung out with them.So I'm affiliated with thembecause people saw me with them.You know what I mean?That's how it was,but they didn't mean I was a gangbanger.
02:02:08It was just them my friends,and you're associated by who you hang out with,and that's just how it is in the city.So, yeah, pretty much.I just went to a blood school and...Damn.That is crazy.Did you talk about in the last podcast
02:02:22how you had to get your whole neck tattoobecause people were like, hey.Yeah, so it's dark on my neck.The dark spots is because I had rest in peace baby Casper.And I was, but he was talking about another Casper.I was going to say, is that the Casper story?No, no, no.That's the big homie.
02:02:37The other one he was talking about it was the little Casper.So he got killed.And I had that on my neck.And when I was getting drafted, they was asking me about it.Like, is that gang ties?Why you have that on your neck if you ain't in a gang?So I covered it up.So, you want to be questioned.
02:02:54I was supposed to go in the fourth roundin the draft and I dropped all the way to the six.They told me they had concerns about me, you know,I got in a lot of fights in schooland then the tattoos on my neckand all the stuff like that.Yeah, they was concerned about...Because you were like the number one player, right?
02:03:13Yeah, I was the number one player in my school,obviously a small school, but...Yeah, what about nationally?Huh?No, I'm talking about it in high school.Oh, high school?I don't even know where I was ranked at in high school.Can you pull that up?
02:03:22see what he was at in high school.We were getting major offers, right?You got in trouble.But I don't think I was ranked high in high school.So you were a problem growing up?Yeah.Yeah.I got a,
02:03:33I was on probation for two years.I had got a solid battery case,so I couldn't lead the state of point.Talking about like you get seeing with gang members,you get associated,kind of like, oh, damn, he just got,but now it just sounds like,you just got some trouble.
02:03:44That's a cool photo.That ain't me.I don't think I was ranked on it.Yeah.It was probably too long ago.bro.Is Delaney Walker a Hallfamer?Probably not.
02:03:59Because what school did you go to in Missouri?Central Missouri State.Central Missouri State.Where's that at?Warrensburg, Missouri.Hey, I bet you had a hell of a time there.Got a hell of a time.Buddy, what is it like there?
02:04:13Party town, right?Is it really?It's like Broadway.They got one street like Broadway.It's lit.Really?Warrensburg, Missouri?Yeah, you got a member.
02:04:22I'm coming from California.point, like, we always had white people around, but I never party with them.I went to Missouri.It was like, if you was black, you play sports, everybody else was white.So it was just like, let me see how they do.I had never been in the drinking beer.I'm talking about penny pitcher Wednesdays.We drinking beer out of-
02:04:37Penny pitcher Wednesdays.That Wednesdays was the most fires time because you go on there with a couple of quartersand I get about 20 pictures put on the table drinking Natty light.You know what I'm saying?I never drank beer, nothing until I went to Missouri.White boy wasting with them.All this.And I live with five white dudes.
02:04:55They used to be like, bro, we never lived with a black guy before.We never even had a black guy on our team.You're the crazy black guy on the team.You're like, you're the craziest black guy we ever met.I'll be like, yeah, he damn right.You know, and then I would be chewing.They got me chewing.I got turned out.
02:05:10I ain't even going to lie.I got turned out.I was wearing some dip, bro.I used to wear 5X pro clubs, big old 40 jeans.You remember that was.When I moved in with them, everything slammed up.They was like, you ain't going to never get a white girl dressed like that.I was like, y'all,
02:05:26hey, y'all,so then I started switching everything upbecause just in Missouri, where I was at,it was just, you know, I was, I stood out for sure.Yeah, no question.Oh, yeah, I stood out.So I just tried to fit in.And I had a great time, though, it's been true.
02:05:45I ain't even going to lie.It was some of the best.When you said you were switching up and all that,like when you would go back home,Would your friends back home?I'm wearing a saying they're like,I'm putting the homies on like, yo, y'all got to get on these,this arbor combery fit, whatever it's called.
02:06:00Y'all got to get on this.They're like, what is that?I'm like, yeah, bro, I know what you're up.You're putting the whole Pomona.You're putting all Pomona on there.I'm like, yeah, it's just going to look funny.We walk in that store.It's going to look like a surf store.
02:06:11They're going to have all the surfer white boy posters up,but the clothes fit perfectly, trust me.And we, ma'all, we start changing up our style.That's hilarious.You know what I'm looking all time.That is so funny.Orangeburg.In the 40 jeans, we ain't enough of that.
02:06:25That ain't going to get you nowhere, you know what I'm saying?So start fitting, getting a little fitted, you know, making your jeans just a little fit.Not too fitted back then, but they was fitted a little bit more.You got to work your way into the tight pants.Yeah, you couldn't just go from the super baggies.To the straight tight.Yeah.You're suspect now, you know what I mean?
02:06:42So we did it by steps.But I brought came back home, put all my cats on that.I mean, we started going to the Burlington Co-Factor.I'm like, yo, they got everything.Because we used to go to the indoor swap meetand just get everything from the swap meet.That's all we knew.We wasn't going to a real mall.
02:07:01Yeah, yeah, yeah.That's wild.Do you want to do, do you want to do tier talk with us?We want to put him in our normal conversations, yeah.Yeah, yeah, I think.Your talk, shout, I know for shout out.Yeah, I think you should.What's the tier talk?
02:07:16So tier talk is categorized tier one is the best, two,and three. And so what's the category today? Holiday themed question mark?We have in, what do we want to do? We want a holiday theme. J.P. threw out like four differentoptions. I'll read them. Should we do Christmas songs? Oh, I like Christmas songs.Christmas songs. Y'all may be better than me on this, of this Christmas songs. But let's do it.There's no, there's no, like, it's yours. There's no right or wrong. It's your favorite. Yeah, yeah. Okay.Delany Walker's three favorite. We can pull a list, too, for like, references. Yeah.It's not just like straight from memory.
02:07:49Go ahead, because, yeah, I told y'all, memory, done.My phone has been charging.Memory is done right now, bro.I know my three already for Christmas songs, though.I need to figure out my third.Ladies and gentlemen, we are now still with Delaney Walker.Usually the boys just do this on their own,but he has been gracious enough to grant us with a tier talk of his own.
02:08:12Today's tier talk will be Christmas songs.Your three favorite Christmas songs,all put through tier one,twos and threes.Obviously,honorable mentions are allowed.I hope you all enjoy this.We are now going to take just a few minutes
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02:09:28So remember, drive high, get a DUI.Paid for by an HTSA.That was the oddest out.Oh, and back to the episode.That was the oddest.That was actually good.It's really elementary, but it was good.Yeah, as actually one of the better ones I ever read.
02:09:44I don't read very good.Huh? Who wrote that?They do. NHTSA.Yeah.They did that?Yeah.Oh, they did a good job.You have a pretty tough experience with driving an influence.
02:09:53Oh, yeah, yeah.Yeah, my auntie and uncle were killed by a drunk driver.After the Super Bowl, right?The Super Bowl, yeah.That's tough, man.So for those of you, don't put people in the situations.Delaney Walker has been one individual who has been affected by that.Millions every day are affected.
02:10:06Once again, back to the episode.Okay, I can go first.Oh, you're ready?Yeah.All right.Go for, if you're going to do honorable mention,that first, but start from your bottom and go to the top.Oh, from my bottom to the top.
02:10:19Yes. We don't want to know your best one first.Okay, well, folks, sorry.Okay, so my bottom one's going to beJingle Bell Rocks. This is your honorablemention? Yeah. All right.Or is it your number three? Is that number three?That's three. Okay, so that's your two or three.Jingle Bell Rocks. By who?
02:10:37This one is going to be... You got to have the artist?This is going to be by Captain Santa Claus.All right. Okay.And your tier two?My tier two is going to be underneath the tree.By?By wrapping in red.I don't know who these artists are.
02:11:07I feel you.I'm not savvy on the artist.And then my top one is I saw my mama kissing Santa Claus by Jackson Five.That's a good one.So my mama kisses Santa Claus.That's the following one.Well?For the word?
02:11:21Yep.Fun.Mm.Cultured.Festive.Mm.Golden.Classics.
02:11:44Happy.That was a good job.All right.Yeah.Yeah.All right.Yeah.Cool, man.
02:11:54My honorable mention is going to be last Christmas.By who?Fortunately, I have this list right here.Wham.Oh, that's a good one.Last Christmas by Wham.My tier three,div of the cap,
02:12:10Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer.There's a banger when you were young,and when you started to hit that remix,when you started to get up in elementary school,maybe around fourth grade, fifth grade,like, oh, there's some ad-lib to this a little bit.I think Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer is phenomenal.The people.
02:12:32The people, all of us, man.My tier two is, I feel like it is the banger that starts.Right when, right when Thanksgiving is like this is when you start turning it up.All I want for Christmas is you by Mariah Carey.You get that one going.You start belting it.You just, you're in it.Is you.
02:12:52And then you hear the jingles.And then you just like, yo, wait.Yeah.Okay.You just start getting hype, bro.My favorite Christmas song of all time, Tier one, is, uh, uh, baby, it's cold.outside. By who?What's his name? Michael Buble?
02:13:08Bing? Bing Crosby? Is that him?Frank Sinosher does one. A Bing Crosby does one.I love. Baby, it's cold outside. You doThe baby is cold outside? That's my favorite. I love it.I've got some essay on it, dude.All right. It does. I feel like it gets some heat.Like, hey, should we cancel this? Bo. Say what's in this drink? Baby, it's cold outside.Yeah. People got to come after. I'm like, man, you know, it's a little song.
02:13:30He's basically just like, hey, you got to stay.Yeah. What's in this?You're being persistent.No, you can't leave it.Yeah, yeah, yeah.Maybe that is.They try to cancel it.Yeah, that is a little sketch.
02:13:38Not on our watch.Yeah, not on our watch.All right.You want me to go?Yeah, you got it.Hang on.Yeah.Go ahead.
02:13:46Strong.Romantic.Mm.Ooh, I like that.I like that.He was ready for that word.We're off the red nose reindeer.Yeah.
02:13:56Oh, you want to hit that?He did have a shiny nose.Like a light bulb.Orney.Orney.You played.too. Yeah. Yeah.Had a very horny.
02:14:09Same. What?Same. Same. Same. Same. Same what?Same as him. Canceled.Bangers.I like that. That was good. That was really good.Thank you. All right. I'm drawing a blank because I have my four and I kind of forgot them.See, that's what happened on Baby is cold outside. I had so many coming to my Santa Baby.I started singing the songs you were saying.
02:14:39you meanfuckall rightgive me a secondcut this part outso I can just thinkfor a secondall right
02:14:50I'm readymy honorable mentiongoes toone of willsand it is a bangerwhen you put it onon Thanksgivingand it comes out
02:15:02and her voice hitsand that's all I wantfor Christmasby Mariah Careyand I'm so disappointedI can't put it in my tearsI'm so upsetbut I think when that song
02:15:12comes onit's something that everyoneenjoysand low keyyou pause itYou pause it in the middle of the song, go,yo, she's really that fucking good.Yes, she's unbelievable.
02:15:20That is an amazing song.My tier three goes to the king himself,and that's Blue Christmas by Elvis Presley.That's a...He starts hitting that?Buddy, that is a little romantic.It makes you...That is a nice fucking deal.
02:15:40My tier two is going to Michael Bublaywhen you just want her to stay.and that is baby it's cold outside i think that song is a fucking hitter i love it and if they cancel iti'm gonna have to get that thing on uh lime wire or some shit so i make sure that things daysmy my playlist forever dude because i do love that song then my tier one i play it uh the daythanksgiving's over until christmas in the locker room on repeat and that song is being by bean crosbieand the song is called christmas is a coming and that is my tier talkStart it off, G.
02:16:20Jai G.Classics.What's all used?Heat.Jolly.Intimate.Traditional.Warm.
02:16:39Oh.That one may feel nice.That was a nice tear talk, boys.That was a nice tier talk.That was a good tier talk.That should do our other favorite segment,which is shout out, no free shout out of the week.That's going to be a little more difficult.
02:16:50Don't know.He's got to go last if he wants to do shoutout.No first of the week.He can go out so he can understand it.Shout out.No free shout out.Your shout out, no free shout out.It doesn't, it can be a person, a thing.
02:17:00Like, to get perspective, a couple weeks ago, I shouted out water bottles in your car thatstart to get cold during the winter months.Yeah, underappreciate.You don't think about that you might do on an everyday basis.Okay.Gotty.Shall we?Yeah, shall we?
02:17:18Is it time for our favorite segment of the week?Shout out.No free shout out of the week.as always.We start with our man in blue,Velasi.What you got, King?My shout-out this week
02:17:30goes to something that's probablynot going to be on...It's probably something that I only do.And I've heard of...What's it?No, not Brock Pretty, but hey, shout-out Brock Purdy.But I just recentlystarted doing this, especially with, like,
02:17:44audiobooks, and that's listeningto an audiobook in the gym. I think that'ssuper underrated. I don't think verymany people do it. It might be unpopular, butShout out to listening to our audiobook in the gym.Interesting, interesting.Jackie, baby, what you got?I want to do a Christmas shout-out, but there's time for that.
02:18:04So I'm going to do some of my experience yesterday,and it goes along with the Titans fan base,but it's a specific genre of the Titans fan base.Obviously, the game did not go the way we wanted it to.But shout out to the fans that do not exit the stadiumwith a minute left in the third quarter,even if the score were down 16, 18 points.People stick it out.
02:18:25They run up.They get one more beer before the sales close for the fourth quarter.They go enjoy it.You know, they cheer the team on.We see a nice chig catch with the helmet catch.Two point, you know, cheer the team on.And don't just fucking bail.So shout out to those fans, myself included, sticking it out there.
02:18:43Shout out to me.So, yeah.That is a great shout out, dude.We need to clip that too and make sure that gets out there on the internetand make sure people know.People got to fucking know.I was at the Stanley Cup finals for the Prez when they were losing to the penguins,and that same shit happened.
02:18:56Beginning of the third period, people just started leaving.I'm, Talon's like, Taylor hit me with, did you, do you want to leave?I was like, fuck no, dude.We are staying, and we're going to enjoy this.You don't, I know.Why are you leaving?So disrespectful.I did, too.
02:19:09I watched them get the trophy.Bro.Flooding out, dude.It's a terrible, it's a terrible feeling.They're not real.Good on you, Jack.Good on you.Fairweather fans, don't you Delaney.
02:19:20You know you're some of them time fans out there.Time voice.Micky, baby, where you're up?What do we got?I'm going to go more of a Christmas holiday route.I'm sure every family has these or whether it's with your family or it's like with a group of friends.And that is a holiday tradition.Whether it's like a family Christmas party you do or you go get your Christmas tree at a certain thing or like you have like a cookie day.
02:19:46Oh.One thing my family does is that or my friends do.Like we go to my buddy's house in New Jersey,and he's in, like, a tight little neighborhood,and we go Christmas caroling.We'll, like, run out the back of a bar.Enjoy a few beverages, and then go walk around his neighborhoodwith, like, a trailer with, like, a keg or something in it.
02:20:07We'll go knock on doors, like, sing some songs to him.Normally, it's just, like, two or three.Rudolph the Red Nose Raneer?Yep.Yeah.Your stereotypical Frosty the Snowman, yep.Put those plastic.I bet you can belt it out, too.
02:20:19Oh, yeah.you have a little liquid courageand you definitely can.No question.In those classics with a keg,that's such a white boy move, did.That is.That's a nice.
02:20:26That's a northeastwhite boy move.I had kegs in Missouristacked up to the ceilingwhen I was in my life.Garrett,what merch we shout out today, buddy?What we got?
02:20:37What kind of heat we got, kid?I don't know,but are you foreshadowingwith the Atlanta shirt on?Oh, I see you wearing the dirty boy shirt, man.I was, I saw that.Keeping the dream alive, boys.I appreciate you.
02:20:49I appreciate you wrapping the,the year 10 dirty boys.I got you, kid, I got you.My shout-out,no-free shout-out this week,is going to go to something we all experience,and I'm going to have a hard time explaining it.But those little moments when you're by yourself
02:21:02that either like just make you smileor just like either you time,like the light up at the right time,you're like, you know, you're sitting there at the red light,and you're like, and green, hits green.I don't know what the word is.Little victories.Yeah, a little personal self-victories
02:21:16that, you know, sometimes don't get shared with everybody.I like that.I like that.I don't know how to word it.Because, like, sometimes when I'll take Rue and put her in and that car seat, it clicks.Perfect.I'll literally look at trial, but hey, today's going to be a good day.Exactly.
02:21:33It's been that little momentum early in the game, early in the day.Yeah, yeah.Those moments.Delaney?Or would you like us to go?My shout-out, no free shout-out is the glass tips that goes in backwoods.Just, man, you know, just that clean, clean, free smoke, man.That's nobody do it.
02:21:55I don't think a lot of people do it.They should if you want that clean, positive smoke to go inso you can feel great with your backwoods.Them glass tips, man.Just, I don't know why people don't do it enough, man.It's just like the best thing ever.That man.That was iconic.
02:22:13That was outstanding.Every time when somebody comes in for shout-out, no, for a shout-out,they have great ones.I know. They do a good job.Yeah, they do fantastic.We've only done with a couple people, though.I know, but every time it's been great.My shout-out, no-free shout-out goes to, I'm going to be honest.
02:22:31I feel like there's part of me that wants to make sure JP hasn't said this one to mebecause it's written in my shout-outs list and I don't want to snipe his if that's true.That's okay.He's not here to defend himself.Okay.But my shout-out, no-free shout-out goes to when you're driving on the highway and you'reabout to hit an exit and the exit's got all the spots that you're looking forwhen you're just road tripping.
02:22:49Has that been said?Yeah.Really?All the spots?Well, mine was when you're driving.Different little moments.Yeah, it's different.I think you're betting on yourself
02:23:09in your scenario.Like, am I going to settle for this subwayin McDonald's?Or am I going to try to take a trip down hereand maybe find myself a Chick-fil-A?This one that success is coming to you.This one, the success you already pulled up.You might not even be feeling it,
02:23:21but you're like, oh, this is where I'm stopping.You have the turnpike.Yeah.got the nice gas stations.Hell yes,dude.Nice spot to eat.So that's my shout-out,
02:23:30no free shout-out of the week.I felt,I felt dicey saying that onefor whatever reason.Like,maybe I felt like,ah,you can keep going.
02:23:41Because I,I took his word one time.Yeah.He was outstanding.I know.Great timing.It was.It's hard to replicate.
02:23:49You cannot do it again.If y'all get a backward plug,y'all just let me get some of them,you know what I'm saying?Yeah.Shout out backwards.No free shout-out.You might get one from that.
02:23:59You might get one.My shout-out, no free shout-out of the week is when you have a friend and you see that friend have success and knowing them before that success and like being able to be at their moment when they were able to have like their defining moment in their career.And that came to us on Friday.Oh, are you going to say it?Yes.Being able to see Jelly Roll sell out Bridgestone Arena.and have the moment he did.There was a moment I literally got choked up.
02:24:31He came out of the gate, hot, three banger songs, boom, boom, boom.And he stops after that third song, kind of takes a second.And as he's taking a second, people are going, jelly, jelly, the whole fucking crowd.I got goosebumps right now.The whole crowd, 15,000 people are cheering his name.And you can tell he is truly taking that moment to realize everything he's done in his lifethat's led up to this, dealing drugs, spending 10 years in prison.watching the Music City miracle
02:24:59from Juvenile Detention Centerto now and being in his hometownselling out Bridgestone Arenaone of the iconic placesto sell out in Nashville, Tennesseetook that moment and seeingthe emotions on his faceand him bringing up all his friends
02:25:15whether it was earnest or Hardyhe brought his wife up at one pointand it was just such a celebrated momentthat he did incredibly well that we were lucky enough to be a part ofand to know Jellysince like the beginning of doing this podcast.He legit was a fan of us.And I didn't even know really about jelly.
02:25:30When I met when I met him, I was like,I was like, I got to start listening to this dude.And since then, since knowing him and there's lo-key, like being his friend and watching him have the success he has is like a truly special moment.And so my shout-out goes to pretty much a jelly roll.What an outstanding.He a real dude.I don't know if he talked about it at the show, but apparently he donated all the proceeds that whole show.that whole show to the Metro juvenile detention center.
02:25:59That's $3.Awesome.It was like apparently like $237,000.Sold out, bridge down.Yeah, I mean, that was that's the big.He sold it out.And with his contract, the way it works,well, he was explaining us the music stuff.
02:26:11Like, he made most that money, like that he gave.He's like an independent artist.He didn't get got by.Nobody else.The mainstream society of music.What is the big music?Big music.Yeah, dude.
02:26:20Yeah, exactly.You know what I'm saying?Because this whole camp does everything for him.So that's the way to do it.He really is killing it.He really is killing it.I thought that was a phenomenal shoutout.I thought you were also,
02:26:32I thought you might,was going to talk about Ernest.I felt the moment we were having with him on the couch.When he was playing like,you know, we don't want to give away any secrets,but he was playing some bangers to where it's like,knowing him before that chapter takes off.No, that's a good one too,
02:26:47because he's going to have.Ernest has got something in the bagthat we can't talk about right now,but if he does what he's told us he might do,that's just going to be cool as fuck.Yeah, man.It's going to be cool as fuck.We'll tell you guys afterwards, but that shit is fire.
02:27:02Talk about the creative.He sent me it, by the way.Really?Yeah, he texted me yesterday.The little memo?Yes.Oh, I need them.But, bro.
02:27:09But, bro, his creative genius is insane.We were talking.Don't forget that.I know.I know.We wrote a South Park episode.Bro, we wrote an entire South Park episode about,can we even talk about it?
02:27:21We can, by then we're going to get into it.Like, it's only been two and a half.We got to get to the roll back.last question.Yeah, that's true.This is a Mount Buss Morris episode.Like, this has been a phenomenalto have you back on
02:27:29when you were number one.Number one, dude.And what, 192?We got into some weeds of your careerjust talking from your perspectives.I know, that was crazy.And not being able to not seeing you in a couple years too.It's outstanding.
02:27:43I know.I do.I mean,lay my eyes on you.We legit.We did make a nice time.That was, remember I was like we should look, we should write this down.Yeah.
02:27:50It's that good.Yeah.Damn, you guys are, hey, those are you listening right now?you, it's a banger.The South Park boys might need to hit us up.The basketball guys.They probably wrote it.They need to be going out soon.
02:28:00It will be like an hour special.It is that good.All right, listen.This is the last question.We know you have to go.This is the Roeback last question.For those of you with Roeback, use code boys onrowback.com for 20% off your first purchase.
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02:28:33Our question to you is top three tight ends in the game right now.And there's a second question.And the best one coming up.Who are the top three boys out there?Travis, number one.Your boss?He goes, hmm.He don't think so?
02:28:53He's a 49er guy.I mean, Travis, kettle, two.This kettle is two.And then...Love you saying kettle.I just how I say his name.I got...And then three right now?
02:29:07Greg kettle.Greg kettle.Who is three right now?Who is...Who's caught my eye at the third?I would have to say,that's a tough one.I'm not really sure
02:29:20who's been balling in the third...In the third spot?He's a tight end?I can't say...I can't give you because you have one game.You got a boy from Baltimore, Andrews?Andrews, oh, you know what?Andrews been bawling, but I wanted to say, oh, buddy, from Philly, but he got hurt because he started off ball.
02:29:38Yeah, yeah.So I go with Andrews because the dude from Philly got hurt.Excuse me.Those backwards.Not using those glass caps.Not using those glass caps.So I go with Andrews.I think he's at top of his game right now.
02:29:53But for sure, the top two.And them boys, they can't be stopped.is Travis and Cattle or Cettle.How are you doing?Great Cettle.Great Cettle.Waller's been hurt all year.He's hard to kind of put it.
02:30:06He didn't do nothing this year.I mean, he's a beast if he's.He's a beast, but he came out of a turf toe, his new song.I'm doing it right now.You're talking about on the game right now who's balling right now.And that's who I got.You said Kelsey won right away.How far away is Cettle from Kelsey?
02:30:25Not too far away, but I feel like.Travis is consistent every year.You know what I'm saying?Yeah, he's had like a thousand yards every year.Yeah, he consistent every year.I can't, I just don't, I just don't see nobody else just really even comparing with him,especially with Patrick Mahomes right now and what they got.And they ain't even got a really top tier receiver, so he's going to keep getting fed.
02:30:50Now, you look at the 49ers.I know Debo took an injury yesterday, but they still got players around they tied inthat can take them.away from his numbers.So that's what I look at.Who's an up-comer?And why is it T.J. Huckison?I'm a think.
02:31:06You don't think T.J.'s nice?Yeah, I know. I think he's nice, but I'm going to go with my own teammate Chig.I think Chig is up and coming.I think he just got to...He just kind of like that, huh?Yeah, I feel like he just got to understand that it's the same as college.You know what I mean?You, you that player. It got you here, do what you was doing in college.
02:31:25And obviously, the game is a little faster, but you have that ability.to be that person.Like, he gives us sprinkles of it.You know, it's just got to be more consistent.I think that would come over years of him just being in the offenseand feeling comfortable and knowing that, hey, you're the guy.So we're going to need you to step up.I think he's starting to understand that.
02:31:44So I think Chig is an up-and-comer, especially with the Titansand having Derek, he can be a role for his team and make some big playsand also be up there in the top tier with the tight end.That's got to make you feel good if your Chig listening to that right there.Yeah, he was legit.In camp, he was legit doing that to guys too.Mm-hmm.Really?
02:32:02Yeah, I was like, oh, this kid's going to be somebody.Yeah.Yeah.That's awesome.I think he's gotten the reference to Lenny Walker.I was going to say, I mean, I'll talk to him.That's a massive of approval right there.I think he got it, man.
02:32:12We kind of look similar on the field kind of the way we built.I just, once he get his...You were bigger than him.Yeah, I was bigger than him.But I think once he get his feet under him and just really understand his role with the Titans,I think he's going to be big.He ain't going to catch up the trafzing them,right away, but it'll come.
02:32:31He's also on the offense.Huh?Like Travis gets the ball.Every time.Yeah.Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying.He's not in the offense.He's not able to do what Travis do.
02:32:40Have you watched Travis run,yeah, but watch Travis Routes.You never know what he really doing,because he'll run,it'll be somebody, he'll just stop.And then he'll just throw him the ball.You know, some of his routes, not even routes.He just, he would like me.
02:32:55And I say that because when you is creativeand you got the ability to kind of freelance out there with the offense,that's how you get the plays.Like, people will tell you all the time,I didn't run the exact route that they told me to run.I ran to get open.And that's what he does.He runs to get open until,
02:33:12and when Chig understands that,but he can't do that now because he's not that player,they'll get upset at him and, like, you didn't even run the route.But once he get to that point where he, like,I'm going to run kind of the route,but I'm getting open because that's what it's all about.If I just ran the route,they told me I would have been covered every time.
02:33:29But I did what I wanted to get the ball from Marcus.I'm like, I got to get open.Marcus is looking for me.Yeah.So I think once he understands that and get that ability, he just really need to watch.I will watch a lot of film with Travis, too, just to understand that route running ability.And then-How important, though, is it to be on the same page with the quarterback?
02:33:47Very important.Because you almost got to think the way they do.It's like, okay, he's seen the covers.I'm going to just sit it down right here.And that's where it comes down to.You really got to be synced with your quarterback because you got to see what he's seeing.If you see it's a dude sitting over thereWhat do you think the quarterback sees sitting over there?
02:34:01The dude standing right in the zone.Don't run over there because the quarterback going to throw it to you.If you running over there, of course he going to throw it over there.But if you stop and give him a landmark,he going to make the right decision.And sometimes it's always put on the quarterback,but it's the receiver for it too.The quarterback don't have four eyes.
02:34:18He can't be looking over here while he reading the coverageand then he see you just crossing the field.He going to throw the ball.He thinks you open.But you have the ability to look to the corner.and see that he's sitting there, stop, slow down.Like, don't run in full speed.Kind of, like, slow yourself down so he can put it on you.
02:34:34You can make a move.It's just a lot of things that go into play.But Travis does that the best to me.That's what I'm saying.That was good.That was an outstanding answer.Yeah.Yeah, just finding a soft spot, just getting open.
02:34:46You know what I mean?Coach Blas.Yeah, Coach Blasie back there, baby.Out there.Oh, you find a soft spot?I appreciate your brother.Oh, thank you all right.Everybody subscribe.
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