Bussin' With The Boys - Taylor Lewan Reacts About Being Cut By The Titans, Max Homa Talks How Golf Needs To Change & If It Is A Real Sport

Episode Date: February 23, 2023

Recorded: February 7th, 2023: It is a sad day on the bus as Taylor was informed that we has been released from the Tennessee Titans. The Boys dive into his career and Taylor speaks on how he feels about being cut. Following the intro, PGA Tour stud, Max Homa joined the pod while the boys were out in Arizona. Max talks about what life is like as a golfer on the PGA Tour. Homa tells the boys what the Waste Management Open is really like from the perspective of player. He tells some crazy stories and how he thinks the tournament is actually good for golf. After tournament talk, Max dives into how he got into golf and things that could/should be changed to make the "sport" more appealing to the younger generation. The Boys may be the good luck charm for Max as he just finished 2nd in the following tournament. Enjoy. 0:00 Intro 39:53 Interview Starts 41:20 Talking kids 45:50 The boy made some bags a couple weeks ago 46:20 Its not on the parents for the kids screaming on planes, noise canceling headphones 51:50 What waste management is like 55:20 how does max feel about everyone throwing beer cans on 16 57:35 having FOMO during the tournament wishing he could party 1:01:00 one rule he wish he could change in golf 1:02:0 is there a golfer, if given the opportunity, he would fight 1:04:15 tee throwing incident 1:09:30 how important is a caddie and what they do 1:13:45 where is max at in the argument of golf being a sport or not 1:15:25 when did max realize golf was his sport 1:19:40 how can you make golf a younger generation sport 1:28:50 how did you get the mindset that you have being even keeled SUPPPORT OUR SPONSORS Chevy Silverado - The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever.For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Taylor the nine year run in Tennessee as officially come came I've came come to an end it's coming

I finished coming. You just got the news like an hour or two ago. Yeah, but, I mean, do we talk inside ball? It happened an hour or two. It happened an hour ago. How long have you known? We've known that it's going to happen this week since Cabo. Yeah.

Yeah. And which way, that was a nice moment we shared too. That was a nice moment. That was like some good tears. How are you feeling right now? A little uncomfortable because we're on the bus. And all the boys were back. here and you don't want to like, I don't know.

I guess I don't want to get emotional. But I was like, I mean, yesterday when it was supposed to get cut Friday and then and then I got moved to today. So when I found out yesterday that was happening, I was, I was really upset and I was sad. And then I had a conversation with my wife last night and today I woke up happy. Like, there's a lot of things in the last three years that I wish it could change. I wish I didn't have an ACL. I wish there wasn't a PED and all that stuff.

But at the end of it, like, I'm extremely proud of the career that I've had for the Titans. And I am extremely grateful for being a part of the Tennessee Titans for as long as I have. And being able to be a part of the Titans when the Titans were shit, the stadium was a quarter full and we're 2 and 14. And now, you know, we're getting there. We're getting full, but not quite 100% full.

And the Titans are in a much better position than when I first got there. So I'm extremely proud. And to be honest, I feel, I feel free. Really? In a weird way. Yeah. I went, uh, why do you think you feel free? Like, what do you think it was?

This is the first time of my life. I haven't had the, I haven't had my name tied to anything besides the bus. But like, there is not an expectation on me to play football or to be ready to play football or if it was, you know, being a catcher shadows, being ready for that football season or Chaparral High School or Michigan and now and then the Tennessee Titans like there's even when we were in Cabo

there was a piece of me that's like should I be doing something? Should I be? And then when I walked out of the building today like said hello to everybody talked to all the guys that I've been around for a long time there's a lot of guys that have been in that building

for a long time and I've gotten to know really well and after those goodbyes I kind of walked down and I was like this is it's a refreshing feeling in a weird way like the morning process has happened since I got hurt week two of the season

because when I had to go get surgery I went to Vrabble's office and I said I know I'm going to get cut and I understand like that is how this is going to work so the morning process has been since the fall and now that it's happened I really just thought like they were going to put me down when they were like shoot me or something

and it was going to be over but really like I walked in there and Rabel and I were talking about Jen and her foot when they first came to Tennessee and then ran came in and shook his hand and kind of just sat there for a second and I go so how's this go and like do you guys put it like kill me

like what's the deal? Pulled the shotgun and they're just like they're like yeah we just got to you know you know we're releasing you and blah blah and I was like yeah I know so is that it? And then that was kind of at the end of the conversation it was it. There was a question of

whether or not I would have to go into all the conversation but the answer is I got cut and now I's got to figure out what to do. Do you know what you want to do right now? I want to get my knee healthy, is what I want to do. Because, I mean, ever since that first surgery,

I've had a lot of, it's been a frustrating experience. So I want to get that thing back to neutral, recharge the batteries, and figure out where we're at. I would assume the phone will be buzzing for the agent. I mean, we don't know, yeah, we're literally, it's the transaction doesn't happen until, what, like 3 p.m. 3 p.m. today.

So by 3 p.m. tomorrow, I should, oh, I guess. I'm sure you'll be fielding about 31 other calls. No. Maybe 32. No, 30. 30, you know, 49ers, they got themselves a left tackle. 49ers got themselves a stud boss. I'm sure everybody, you know, you'll be a hot commodity.

You'll be a hot little topic. Taylor and I were last night. We had pulled up all 32 teams and I was like, no, no, yes, no, maybe, like, kind of going throughout the teams. Or a few yeses. Top three. Yeah, because we remember we've talked about it before on the pod. Yeah, my top three's changed.

Has it? Yeah. Does it still include me? Yes. I'm just kidding. This isn't about me. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, what's the three?

I want to stay close to Tennessee. I want to be in like the same region. Oh, Atlanta. So Jacksonville, Indianapolis or Houston. Oh, you want to stay in the division. You want to stay in the division? That's where I want to go.

Nothing but love for Tennessee. Yeah. There's a chip that she's got to create. I got some pringles on the shoulder right now, dude. Jacksonville, what's up? Did you guys seem like you've been playing pretty well? Yeah. No, I don't want to.

Those are the three teams that are for sure knows. That and... For sure knows. I hang on now. No, I would not go play for an AFC South team. Three for 60. No. 20 million a year?

What are we talking about, dude? I'll make that on the bus. I'm good. Okay. Yeah. It must be something I'm not seeing then. Yeah, you didn't see? No.

You didn't hear? about Chevy? The most greedy. Yeah, determined, reliable. Are you going to say a few? No, I'm not going to say a few. No, no, I'm not going to say a few right now. We played the game before on here.

You can talk off. I don't want to on the bus before. I'll tell the boys. I don't want to tell these tears. I'm sorry. I can't know everything. But what I'm saying is we've told it here. I'll say a team and I'll say yes or no.

Because I don't want to. Atlanta. No. Because Jake Matthews is there. I respect Jake Matthews. I think his contract's come to an end. Yes, Atlanta. Man, let's just play around here.

I'm trying to think it's these teams without left tackles. Dealers. Yeah. I was going to do a whole thing with Jersey Jerry, but. Eagles. No. Oh, yes. Yes.

No. Ooh, A-Z. No. They just seem like, yes, the same. So potential winners I know the Bengals need a left tackle Bangles I know the Bengals need a left tackle

Cincinnati I know the bangles need a left tackle So I can I'll put some weight on for the boys A little bit You saw the things bouncing in there That's a good amount of team But I don't want to turn this into

Like where am I going to go play next Like let's give fucking Leave that up to me Let's the body Hey you can do that Leave that up to me Let the body get cold With the Titans fans

first, dude. But it was, it's been an amazing nine years, and I do appreciate you guys so much. It's been amazing. When you look back, what were some of the fondest memories outside of finding your best friend? The Pro Bowls. That in 2019, the 2019 playoff run,

everything was going right, dude. Like, it truly was flow state, like group flow state. Group, too. Yeah, everybody was just in it. Like, I remember when we got back after we did it. even make the playoffs and you had all the boys like everybody basically came over every day down in the basement to do n-d and yeah on stuff yeah boys like all the hogs were getting ready like oh we got to you know we got to get derrick because you guys were rolling like the running game was just yeah it was

fucking going crazy bro now we really we really believed we were going to beat kansas city every single time we played them it was so weird because they're so good yeah but we always like beat them except for like that game last year before. No, but it seemed like that. Playing Jacksonville at home, Derek would always go for like 230. Like Derek's 99-yard run. Just like us, we called that too. Like we literally sat there in the huddle and a QB sneak checked with 13 duo is the play.

It's a gap scheme play. And he checked it. But before the playoffs, I do, what if we go for 99 yards on one play? and then Derek fucking did it. It was like the coolest thing ever. Four stiff arms later. Yeah, it was so sick. So I don't know what it was awesome.

Being around the boys, we had the best locker room. We had the best O-line locker room in the league. And I've only been in one place, but people would leave and come back. People would leave and call us and be like, damn, you guys really have the best room. Guys would come here and be like,

I've been to five other rooms and it's not like this. Like, that was awesome. And I think, I mean, I might be wrong, but I think they're cutting Ben Jones today too. So that locker room's done. Yeah, definitely. You got established the offensive line. Yeah, you still got Ruse and Corey and Dylan.

Those guys are going to do a good job of, like, keeping the vibes of the room together and stuff like that. But, yeah, it's just different. It seems like the Titans are going to be in a unique position, especially in the office line category to find out what's going to happen there. You got to spend some money and draft and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. What about the things? fans. What about them?

Nine years with the fans? What about them? No. The fans are, I mean... Mostly ups outside of the booze? Yeah. Yeah, no, no, no. The fans, I would say, like, it's overwhelmingly positive.

Like, things have been... Like, I'm not always going to be everyone's cup of tea. Like, people want the office to tackle that's going to just be seeing not heard type vibes, and I respect that 100%. But, like, I think... I've said this a whole bunch. I don't think I could have gone to any other franchise and had the success on the field, because how I was able to be on and off the field

to allow, just allow me to be myself. And I think Tennessee let me have that. So definitely feel like it was just open arms the entire time. And it was absolutely incredible. I loved every bit of being a part of this franchise. And, you know, guys leave, like, when you came from the Redskins and Rack telling, hey, I didn't like that here. Like, it's not a big media franchise.

It's not, you know, the city isn't, like, overwhelmed with Titan Prize. but like it's grown every single year and that's like was really cool to be a part of because it was non-existent when I first got here and you know you feel like you're part

you were a part of that in some sort of way like you feel like you were a piece of making that happen and like bringing like the kind of vibe that the Tennessee Titans represent now like I feel like I was a big piece in that and so I'm extremely grateful

extremely but in a weird way like I feel really happy right now I'm just happy that I was in a relationship and I left that relationship better than the way I found it. And that is, I think, the most important thing is that I put something, I was brought somewhere to do a task and I did my task well enough to where to help change a franchise. And that is something that I'm extremely proud of.

You should be, man. I appreciate nine years on one team. That's true. That's really cool. I mean, it's like the 1% of the 1% of the 1% of the 1. So remember we were about 1%? talking about like I know

percent and the next one percent it's just crazy it's wild and to think about playing for another team like at low key is exciting like I've said like

I only want to play for one team and stuff like that but like if I still have the juice and I can get my need to feel the way I think it should

where I feel confident enough to go play football then if then I have no issue going to play somewhere else what um you saying that now what new awareness do you feel like you have

and being able to say that now because probably a year ago I know I listened to that radio segment that was taken very well by everybody. Everybody's like loyal to the soil. I want to play for one color and all that kind of stuff. What new awareness do you think you found to make you say like, I'm excited to play for somebody else or like getting the knee out?

You know what I'm having the opportunity to play for somebody else is what I'm most excited for. Like seeing who else out there wants me and respects my game well enough to call and say, this is what we'll pay you to play a position that we've seen your product and we know you're good at. And so that's a great feeling. The loyal, like, I'm still loyal. I'm still, like, if I, let's say I do go play somewhere else. Cut you open, it's two-tone blue. Yeah, that's what it is.

Yeah, I'm a two-tone-blue type of guy. So, like, that has not changed at all. It is just one of those things where the relationship is over. And I could, you know, I could go and sulk and be upset and just call it quits. Or I can call it quits and be happy or I can go play and be happy. But like though that first option is not an option for me. I don't want to sit there and dwell and worry and think like all the whole world's ending. And the reality is there's going to be multiple teams out there that want my services.

Yeah. And I'm good enough to do that. So that's like that's an awesome feeling. Should be. You know, it's like it's weird because just Tennessee. I know. Nashville. I know.

Like I'm sitting here. It's like sinking in a little bit more. I'm like, damn. Like it's fucking like what a run. I know, because we were sitting there in Cabo and we were talking about it and how it was like, we're just trying to figure out how I feel. Because I would tell you, like, I'm sad, but I'm also like not as sad as I thought I'd be. Like, all these are the things.

And it's like, yeah, I'm bummed out. It's over. But like, I've mourned it. And it's just, it's just done. And so, like, instead of, like, it's the cliche line of, like, smile because it's happened. Don't cry because it's over type thing. Yeah. And it's like, it's, I'm super, I'm extremely grateful.

Extremely grateful. like the analogy too, like when change happens, like anxiety builds and you don't necessarily know where it is. It's like, you know, the analogy of the lights being off and you're trying to like find your way. But once the lights come on, you see everything that happened, you're like, okay, it's not near as bad as I was thinking it's going to be. Right. Right. Like, this has allowed me to zoom out even further. Like when you get hurt, like you're able to zoom out and kind of see the team more as a whole, except for like your own individual self or if you're even able to, the whole entire group you're playing with. When you get hurt, you can see the whole team.

and now I can see kind of everything's just more clear and I never once was like oh no the Titans love me so much they're not going to cut me like we understood we've understood that for a long,

long time but you can't love the franchise because the franchise is going to fuck you eventually yeah I can't love someone that doesn't love you back right that's for the game obviously

that's for the game but I always I will always love the Tennessee Titan franchise and I'll always be so grateful but I don't know I don't know if I'm in a play or not I just know that I'm excited to, like, see the opportunities I would have if I were to, but...

And get my knee healthy. But, yeah, other than that, I don't know if you guys, if you guys have any questions? I'm gonna... Garrett, A, being, like, you know... Titan guys. Titans. Like, one of the boys. About a decade.

Yeah. I mean, I feel like I've known Taylor for a decade, but I've only known him for, like, three years. And I think it's cool to see someone who's progressed our franchise in, like, such a positive direction. The first two years, Taylor was here. we won a total of five games. And before that, it wasn't much better.

I mean, the best we could get was maybe an eight and eight season. And at that point in our lives, we were content with eight and eight. You and a handful of others and coaches alike took this franchise from being a low-level market team with not much promise to being a noteworthy Sunday night, Monday night football team, a team that people wanted to see that they gathered around. We were kind of like the underdog, but we had a lot of. something to prove. It's just crazy that over the last nine years you've been here.

Like I said, it's like I knew you for so much longer before I actually knew you. Then I get to know you as like a friend and like a boss and like even like a mentor. It's it's been an honor because people for so long like had the wrong idea about you, I feel like. And you gave off that that energy at first, the first few years. But like I'll die on the hill against anybody. you know, defending you because you're like one of the best guys I know. You've taken the city to new heights. You made the O-line position cool.

And that's a fact. I hope that I see nothing but overwhelmingly positive stuff on socials and in life. I've already gotten a handful of texts. My brother-in-law wants to congratulate you too. I know you've never, you may have met him once. Tell them, thank you. You've made an impact on the city, truly. It will take a long, long time to replace.

And I'm super proud of like where you. you've gone and what's to come, whether it's football or something else. But it's truly been a pleasure seeing you as a fan and then growing to be a close friend. So thank you, man. It's been really awesome. Thank you, Jack. I can't follow that. I can't follow that.

A lot of those same emotions for sure. Again, just like, I don't even know how old I was, like when we first drafted you. And then now it's just like, it was like, it was like a weird. weird full circle thing of yeah rooting for you working with you friendships and it's just like i don't know it's cool i've never gotten to like see a friend hit a point like this in their career where it's like uh i don't know like you get to say like you did it like you fucking reached your goal like you did it it's fucking awesome to see from like an inside circle so just yeah like proud of you dude appreciate that yeah super nice could we get a moment of silence here loana arguably the greatest

left tackle in Titans history. Thank you. Is, uh, is Taylor dead? No, I'm back. Hey, is Taylor dead? I'm back, dude. I'm fucking back again.

I'm back. Do we get to, more than ever? Do we get to bring back RIP, Taylor, Juan? Yeah. No, dude. Please don't do that.

Please don't do that again. Thank God it faded away. Thank God it faded away for a little bit. RIP Taylor. So, I mean, I would love to sit here and just bask in my greatness for another 25 minutes, but I feel like, thank you so much. Jack, Garrett, all the boys back there that have supported. I know you guys didn't grow up Titans fans, but it was really cool hearing from the two of you.

Willie, I've already given you the flyers you deserve. I've already given those. You're my best friend. Yeah, we're the boys, man. A universal shout-out, no-free shout-out for this episode, Tara Lawan. All right, fair enough. God tier shout out, man. Thanks, boys.

Are we doing a shout-out, no free shout-up before the Max Homa podcast? Tier Talk. I think we need to figure out a tier talk. Hey, Best Air Luan moments. There are plenty of the weekend. Yeah, let's do Best Air Lua L'Awam moments. We'll let Taylor go first, and that way we can get all of ours separately so he can't play off. My favorite moments of me?

Yeah. Well, let's just give you your favorite moments. Your favorite moments of... My career? Your career as a Titan. All right, let me think about this. Pro Bowl 1, Pro Bowl 2, Super 3. Yeah, for sure.

All right, break. This is just football or just Busting? I think it's whatever you want it to be. Football centric or bust? I feel like if it's not football sense, it's like, weird. that you have actually like I'm dead

favorite Taylor LeWan moment yeah yeah I'm like that was a hoarse moment for her these are going to be around him being a titan yeah yeah yeah yeah we we did that part man

other time I find a picture I haven't heard and you saw her in the same Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the first jelly roll podcast. I've seen. Fair, this is, all right, tier three will be... Oh, you're doing it? I mean, I guess so.

I'm not ready. I'm just going to do mine so I can get it over with. I don't want to do mine. All right, the tier talk this week is favorite Taylor Luan, Tennessee Titan moments. To start it off, will be the man himself. Taylor Luan. Thank you. All right, my tier three is going to do. to be Derek's 99-yard run. Ah!

All right, yeah, Tier 3. Yeah, that would be 99-year-ur run. Tier 2, Pro Bowls. And then Tier 3, or Tier 1, would be Derek's 2,000-yard season. All right. Off your knees for Derek. Hey, listen.

One of them coattails, brother. No, I'm not ready. I'm not ready. Are you guys ready? I'd say, for me, Tier 3, is going to be when you got in Richard Sherman's face, that just was kind of like a tone setter. And it kind of told everybody, like, you know, don't fuck with Taylor type thing,

which I always appreciate that. Here, two, is going to be Derek's 99, just because I, hearing you say that y'all called that. That's a cool moment for you personally. And then one is going to be you flipping off the sky cam. Damn, yeah, that's a good one. My honorable mention, which might not be on par, but it was when we went to Pensacola. And for anyone who doesn't know that, that was when you tore your first ACL. But me and Gary went down there for the week with you all.

I feel like that was the first time we like all really started kicking it. It was like boss friend. So shout out Pensacola. Three, probably Richard Sherman, especially because back then with Mariotta, he was kind of our golden boy and you stood up. for him. That was epic. The sky cam too really showed who you were. Didn't give

a fuck, but it was funny. Number one's got to be Josh Norman. It was, to me, not only for your personal brand, but one of the most iconic Titans moments in the last 20 years, when I watch it on that video, it gets me so hype because you're so nonchalant.

You throw the arrow and he comes over trying to like throw hands and you just turn around and he's still trying to jab it you and you're just kind of walking off like swaddling away and then he ended up getting God again by Derek I think the next season. Yeah, it was in the bills. That would be my

top three. Just Josh somewhere just taking strays. Got it again in the next year. Yeah, he's on the bills. All right. I think Willie was the last one to go. No, and you guys got to go? My tier three is probably going to be Josh Norman. For sure, that that moment the first time I started

working for the podcast. I remember Googling for YouTubeing your name and that clip just came up and I was just watching it over and I was like oh damn this is crazy so that would be tier three for me tier two would be the sky cam the flip off I just thought that was an epic moment I don't think anybody has even remotely come close

to doing something like that and then tier one would be watching YouTube play against each other live and that brief interaction you all had on the bowl the NFL bus and bowl Raiders Raidas. So I'm obviously not as big.

I haven't been around as long as all these guys have. Okay, Mitch to your truth. My tier three would probably be that NFL films. The type of you talking of Rabel, you're like, what's the game playing here? Oh, no. Oh, no. That's my tier. Yeah.

So that's my tier three. Tier two is the Josh Norman. And tier one is when you were going around to the refs to point at. You ruined it. You ruined it. No, I was doing that one, too. Just shitty. party going last. What was your tier two?

Josh. Josh, normal, okay. Tier three for me, probably Miami when he got knocked out. Hey, fuck. No, tier three is probably the

Richard Sherman, Tier two, Josh Norman, and Tier one is the refs. The refs. The ref clip is like something that's going to be posted forever. Because nobody will probably ever do it again. And like, it takes I don't know. It's like special to have something that can live forever.

And that's one of them. I'm glad that post-game clip can live forever. Josh Norman. I feel like Will was going to do all the time so I got hurt. I know. In low-key, I was wanting to do a funny one by being in Miami when you got knocked out. And, you know, you were crying.

Just come over here. Oh, that's right. You were there. Yeah. Longest game in NFL. history. I'm trying to think of like some stuff that might not be out there as much, but it's like it's tough to top all the account of billet buddies. The shenanigans. Yeah. Accountability buddies.

That's in the Titans facility. That's a good point. Yeah. It's a really good point. All your boys in the locker room. I have to think. I have to think like about all those things. My honorable mention, what do you got? That's true. Yeah. My honorable mention is when you were Santa Claus. And I was playing the hype man music with the end.

Yeah. Lose yourself by M.M. Like, were you talking about milk or something? Milk. Cookies all in milk, dude. Yeah. Yeah. My tier three. My tier three, yugging off the catfish. Does that count? Do we get to count that? Yugging off the catfish. I think that's another one that'll be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. something that'll always be at.

Anytime the prets are going to the playoffs and you talk about the catfish, like that video will always be played. Tier two, accountability buddies. That was awesome. You were like, that was the first time you heard,

we had probably both heard of accountability. Maybe, maybe not. I think that's where accountability started. Yeah. It's kind of tough because now that's like a personal thing. And then like it's like one is what, us meeting and growing together over our love for podcasting.

But it's not. My tier one is you on the sideline cheering me on as I'm covering a kickoff. Yeah, man, that list is tough. Because I love the middle finger. I love my tier two will be this. Actually, what I say, to account of bill a buddy, take the account of bill of buddy off. My tier two is you playing the violin for Jalen Ramsey.

I thought Jalen flopping and then you thinking on your feet, hitting the violin, solid move on real. And then, yeah, my tier one, I'm going to hold true with that. You cheering me on on the sideline as I'm covering kickoffs. I know the touchdown's a good one. What did I say, three was, chugging the catfish, honorable mention. You got some good moments, man. There's some good ones out there.

Good moments. That was cool. What was your touchdowns? What are you talking about? Oh, no, I didn't know what to do. I kind of pulled my arms up. That was before we started. I was like, I did this.

I kept doing the, from Miami. Like, you know, getting knocked out Miami. the first time you tour your seal and you're just laying there helplessly and you're like getting knocked out in the bills game or is that when you went off on the stretcher? Yeah. You say that too.

Like you just do those. You had a lot of fucking moments, bro. Yeah. It was cool. A lot of creators out there can go a lot of ways, direction with like Taylor Lawan, Tennessee Titan highlights. Yeah.

Yeah. Jack, you got to get that one. The five-minute one. What? For, like, his highlight. You know how dudes have their highlights on YouTube? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like how people get the highlights.

I need to make it into a vertical. I mean, not vertical, horizontal. Yeah. Right now. That's a good tier talk. I don't know how you felt about it. I think it's nice, even though I might feel uncomfortable. I know you're not listening right now.

I'm listening. It might be uncomfortable, like everybody just talking about you and your flowers and all this stuff, but it's well deserved, like nine years, bro. Like, you deserve all of it. I appreciate that. You deserve all the praise, all the good words, everything. And it does.

It's like it's surreal that your time in Tennessee has come to an end. It's just fucking, just wild. Yeah, it's bound to happen eventually than anybody. Yeah. It's just one of those. We talk about it, the things you wish, is you could just rewrite the last few years. Yeah.

But it has been awesome. It has been a great ride. And you hope all the moments last forever. It's like the 2019 season, the team, the camaraderie. or you hope that continues to go. But even like, you know, the Chiefs went in and having the parade the next day they still got to go in and be like, man, hell of a year we get to look back on fondly. But it's like every fucking great thing no matter what has to come to an innocent point.

The Patriots. The Patriots. And, you know, you guys kind of ended that. Tom had to go somewhere else. Yeah. Yeah. Should we talk about Max Homa? Yeah.

Anything we're missing? Max Homa. Now you're ready to get out of the... No, it's been amazing. I really do appreciate so much, and there's going to be times of wish I'm in, man, I wish I just let them talk more. But I feel like you guys have said such incredible things, and it's been amazing. It really has been incredible, and I'm super grateful. It's almost like, what do we do now once, when you retire one day?

Yeah. Yeah. Run aback. But it's crazy you get to have, like, all these kinds of conversations based around, like, one team for nine years. That's cool. Yeah. Max Homa, we can pivot. Yeah, outstanding individual, right?

Got second place this past weekend. Had him on the bus at the Super Bowl. But the day before that, he was on part of my take, and Big Cat was saying he's a bit of a podcast whore. He did. He did say that. That's branding. That's branding.

Max understands the game, dude. Branding king, dude. Yes. He makes golf. Like, I don't watch golf, but I feel like I don't watch golf, but I feel like I follow it more not just because Max is in it. Yeah.

He has fun. He has fun on social media. Like he has fun on social media. Like he does all like, I don't know, he makes that shit seem cool to play golf. Max does this is one thing on social media where he rates people swings

and just absolutely murders them. It's the funniest shit in the world. Max is hilarious. He was great to have on the podcast. I honestly, that week is such a blur. I forget what we talked about. He was delivering some juice.

Yeah. He was delivering some juice. It was a really good episode. Growing up in the game of golf and talking about how you make it, you know, for the younger generations. Because he's talked about being at the, like, clubs and stuff like that. And some of the older generation, people don't want to have the patience for, like, the younger kids who are there trying to learn. Yeah. I keep looking at Garrett because I know Garrett, Garrett is, like, our golf analyst on this podcast.

And I feel like Garrett would remember some of this stuff, too. But that week was very much a blur with everybody who was coming on. He talked a lot about, y'all asked him, like, getting into the, game like who was pivotal for him he talked about tiger woods obviously kind of like making golf cool um and then yeah talked about waste management and how he thinks it's important for eGA in general just to get fans in it um he will ask him if golf was a real sport he played into that answer really well he didn't play i think he just answered the question yeah yeah huh very good answer outstanding after it off care it's like

Fuck. No, it didn't piss me out. It was more of like... He was scared off. Garrett had to leave the room. Garrett left the room. Do you remember that? Yeah.

We didn't see him for the rest of the day. He had to show back to the next day. And then we had to light of bars to the driving range. Yeah. I'm going to show Will. Yeah. But no, Max was sweet. Yeah, tough, tough L this past weekend.

Put a lot of passion on the course. Yeah, his post game, or post round stuff is special. It just shows like, I don't know how hard golf is and... Yeah. He's all committed here, bro. He just... Yeah, he's authentic. authentic. He's got a good mindset, too, the way he was talking how he used to be compared to now.

Yeah, his caddy. Shout at his fucking caddy, dude. Him being there, being able to bitch him out, telling him stories about how he was in the course, losing his mind. His caddy basically called him a little pussy, and then fucking they went out, went out in one. It's just awesome, dude. It's his best friend. That's fucking rad. Yeah, they stuck together the whole time. Yeah. And the biggest takeaway, golf, he did say golf is not a real sport. I would have waited to let them see that on the episode. But I think that's...

Yeah. But that's for you guys to decide. Is golf a real sport or not? Max Homo says it's not. So what do you think? What do you think? Is it a real sport? Yeah.

You know, it's like a leisurely hobby. That's me make a lot of money doing. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like golf. Golf are people that have made it. But you're going to have to get out of that box. You just keep digging in.

and, you know. Brother, who's got time? Who's got time for three hours just spending a course? You do now. No, brother. No, brother. Yeah.

No, dude. He started banging on the door. That fucking video. Oh, man. Yeah, but the hate on golf, I think it's, I think it's one of those things you've leaned in on so hard. You got it. You stick with it, but it's like, I don't know,

it gets such undeserved hate by you. I'll go, dude, golf. I want to do a sandbagger with the ball. boys at a spit and chigilets. I want to do all that. It'll be fun. I'll golf. I'll try it.

I'm not going to like it. You're going to like it. Golf has a lot of things that you enjoy, though. What's that, Garrett? Comerottery. The boys, being outside, drinking. I don't like drinking. Cool clothes.

Oh. Can I go, going to go tarps off? Absolutely. You can't go, I mean, maybe at a couple spots. Yeah, you can go tarps off. Last group of the day. Yeah. The thing I don't like is the goddamn colored shirts.

You don't have to. You don't have to. You brought the color shirts of slacks. You look good. I don't want to do that, dude. Anyway, this is not about, we're getting back to me. I don't know how I fucking did that again, dude. I got to go out of here.

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So for the love of God, please tell a friend and subscribe to this fucking podcast. I love you. Big hugs, tiny kisses. Yeah, we were talking about Rob Mojee, my high school buddy. He now legend. He's been mentioned on this podcast several times, incredible guy. You know Rob, he's in the golf world, but we were talking about vasectomies. Yeah.

So let's get over that real quick. How many kids do you have? You have one kid? I've one, yeah. How many more kids do you want? Man, no more than one more. Really? Yeah, I'm not. I think, but I think it's a product of like, I grew up in a two kid household. And my wife, she was cool with three. She grew up in a three kid household. But now she's pretty much on two. I could do just one, I think. But I'm also in like the three and a half. I mean, you're in the three and a half month grind right now where it's like, it's just getting a little less hard. So I can see like the light at like, oh, this is really fun. But so many people, I feel like the day you have your kid, they're like, it's the greatest day your life.

Like everything's just like gravy from here. And it's like, I think you guys forgot about how hard the first month is where you don't sleep like at all. Like not like like like if you got an hour, you're like, oh man, I feel so good. And it's like you, I think people forget. But now that you get that over that three month hump, I could see having a second one. But right away, people are like, oh man, like, you know, how many are you going to have? I'm like, one. One.

I'm cool. Like this is impossible. There's a, uh, you know, Andy Sandberg is a comedian. and he was on like a late talk show one time and he was talking about having a kid. And as like your wife is pregnant, everyone's like, it's a blessing,

it's gonna be the greatest day of your life. And then once the kid's born, everyone's like, welcome to hell. Like they just trick you into like also getting into hell. Dude, that first six months, I mean,

Willie's coming out. His daughter's about to be a year. I got a five-year already. Ten months, man. Yeah. I went super fast. I know. You were like in my boat.

What old was yours three and a half? Almost four, yeah. You get to that six month mark. Really like the first six months is like, just keep it alive. Yeah. Like you got to feed it, poop it, make sure it's like breathing at all times.

And then like once you get to six months, that's when like the personality really starts to show. Yeah. You get the smiles when you walk in the door type thing. But I got a five-year-old that it's like full-blown. Like it's my little buddy. We're ripping around. Yeah. We have conversations.

She's into Pokemon. Like it's like a nice little. It's a cool. Yeah. Because like interest, like having similar interests. Yeah. We do have the pooping thing aligned. I do like to poop.

Yeah. You or them. Nobody wipes me, but I'm saying he also likes it. It's like that's our similarity. Like that's our link right now. Yeah. But the problem is like, you know, he has someone wipe his own ass for him. I still have to, I have to do both of those things.

So that's where we're kind of misaligned is. I feel like he, it's like a, it's like for him, it's just straight up for joy. Yeah. Yeah. He's just joy. I do have to work a little bit, you know. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So he hasn't reciprocated. But you got to get him another. I don't want to tell you how to live your life. I know. I know. I know. But like when you're in the beginning of it, man, that's just like the hard.

thing to think about because you're just like, man, I'm already, Marty in it. It's just as hard as I could possibly imagine. And then we travel so much, man. It's just like, we just did our first flights, what was that, three weeks ago. And every time, like, we do anything,

I'm like, how do people do this with two fucking kids? Dude. It's like, I have the backpack with the stroller on, you know, that you carry it, like the satchel. And I mean, Lacey, my wife was saying, I almost ran into like 100 people. I'm like, well, that's just their problem at this point because I'm overwhelmed. So I can't imagine too.

But obviously you get to that point, I'm sure where it's like it makes more sense that it seems reason at this point in time. I am. Right now it's almost like, you know, you're about to take off. You can get in the bottle. You can kind of like have them on the carrier. But now that Rue is like 10 months. Like I'm going to be honest, she was hell.

Like if we're coming out of training camp, she's getting cut. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, flying down to Austin and then flying over to AZ. Now, flying to AZ wasn't as bad. We got her to sleep down in the seat. But, like, they're just wanting to move and do everything. Oh, yeah.

It's like, a few hour of flight. I'm glad he's still immobile because I was not a full-up player. I'm not ready to chase something around. I walk. Yeah. I can walk fast, but I don't jog a whole lot of time. So I'm a little scared for when I can't find him. He's just running away, shitting and pissing and screaming.

I'm cool with him in one place. I know when he screams now. I know exactly where he is. Yeah. I'm scared for the days where he's going to be like, like, Ron was telling me yesterday. He's like, you know, they have to, obviously like, his kid is a little over a year, I think, two years maybe.

Yeah, two years. And he, uh, you know, he's like, he's trying to climb out of the crib. And I'm just like, that's the scary. I know my kid's going to be right where I left him at all time. So I can, I'm cool with that. That's a grind, dude. It's an absolute grind having a kid. But the thing you got going for you is, I mean, the boy made some bags.

Yeah. A few weeks ago. That's a nice little deal right there. You keep doing that and no more Southwest. Yeah, man. It's a nice little plane. Just go ahead and, hey, you can cry and run around wherever you want. We did do that on the way home from San Diego.

And it was really nice. Like, it was really relaxing. I will say, though, to all the parents out there who don't fly as often as I do and they feel bad when their kid like screams on a plane, I've been on as many planes as I think like anybody really has. and at some point I got over it. It's like they make noise cancelling headphones now. Yes, bro.

That's all you got to do. It's not on yesterday. It's a kid. Like they're going to scream. I mean, maybe when I was like 20, 21 years old, I was like,

God, it's annoying. I got the kid behind me. But it's like they got noise canceling headphones. I even thought like if I, if I was just making crazy, crazy money, I'll just buy everybody noise canceling headphones. Just bring a, bring a bag.

Yeah. Bring a bag on the plane. Hey, guys. You get a headphone. Yeah. Here you guys go. No complaining. now, though. Like, I'm good, you're good.

It seems natural, though. Like, I was like, it would be internally in my head. I'm like, man, this kid quiet down. But now that you're a parent, you're like, you know, the parents are, the parents are, thinking about way worse than you are because there are our parents who are like, man, you want to quiet down because you know how everybody else might feel because you were once there at one point in time.

Not like actually looking. Like people who look and give like faces, it's like, yo, fuck you. Yeah, dude, if you have the face, you can go fuck this way. Yeah. If it's like an older woman. It's always the older woman that kind of looks like, what are you, what are you doing and say, ma'am, You're sitting in a middle seat in Southwest. You had to see you 30 through 60.

It was going to be a tough flight for you regardless. There's a disconnect. I do believe this. There's a disconnect because it is more expensive. It's public transportation. It's just a bus in the air. If I was on a bus and someone was screaming, I've been on bus.

I lived in Berkeley for four years. I'm on buses where people are taking pisses in the aisle. And it's like you just didn't even batten an eye. You go on the bar and there's just a homeless who lives there. It smells terrible. But you're like, yeah, this public transportation. But for some reason, when you're up in the clouds, people expect everybody to, you know, wear like a suit and tie and just read. But like...

I kind of like that. I want to know why people are pissing in the middle of the aisle at a bus. He said he grew up in California. You got homeless people. Berkeley's got a big homeless population. You see a lot of shit. And I mean that quite literally. Well, like, California is El Dorado for the homeless community.

That is a place you really need to get in. Yeah. Everywhere's ocean. Yeah. People in Minnesota that are homeless are like, have you heard about this place? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, we could get there, dude. Yeah.

Okay, someday I'm going to head west. He's been saying that for three years. He'll never do that. I was doing it in Minnesota last time I was there. And that guy's a brave man. Because it gets fucking cold. It's fucking cold in Minnesota, dude. I mean, like, if I was, I would just live in San Diego and it would be great. Yeah.

I mean, that would be awesome. Yeah, if you want, you can stumble over to Mexico real quick, go to PJ. Great point. See yourself a couple of nice shows. Come back. A lot of entertainment down there in Southern California. A lot of entertainment. What do you, you live in San Diego now?

No, I'm here. I'm 20 minutes from here. But I grew up in Los Angeles. But we've been here four years now. You are Paradise Valley guy? I'm Arcadia. Oh, yeah. Arcadia is a little farther south of Paradise Valley.

Money. Paradise Valley is like Paradise Valley. Arcadia is like the nicest area of Arizona. Yeah. I grew up in Cave Creek. Oh, no way. So we just moved to Arcadia. We were living up by like where TPC is.

We were living by like Kierlin for a while. But Arcadia feels kind of like California. It does have those kind of vibes. It's weird. Like real job down a neighborhood in Arcadian, it'll be like lush. Yeah, yeah. It's cool. It's a cool setup for sure.

For Arizona, it's different. But yeah, it is, it has been funny living down there because, like, there is, I'm not a 40-20 guy, but. But Arcady. 40-20 people down there. Yeah. You just got to go a little north. I know. Up to Cave Creek.

It's a more salt to the earth there. I believe that, but I just kidding. My wife and I can't do. I haven't fallen in love with a cactus yet. That's a beautiful thing, brother. I think that's fair. I know you guys take a lot of pride in the cacti. Yeah, it's kind of like all we got.

And they call them sororos out here. They can differentiate between cacti, which I'm just like, it's just a cactus. Yeah. There's lots of difference. I think what's interesting is how long this. Have you heard about the jumping choya? Yeah.

Oh, hey, fuck them up right now. Yeah, we'll explain them a jumping choy. What is this called? Jumping Choya. They're like basically like the defense mechanism of a Troia is if you get close to it It'll literally lean into you and then get you So it'll get you away from it and it's one of those things like if you like touch it

It breaks off really easily so it'll be like all over your hands and arms and stuff like that And they're like they like they look like big bushes and you can just like stacks of just Prickles everywhere My buddy put his foot over one once it was on the ground He put his foot over it kind of screwing around like oh I'm gonna step on it and it do. Yeah. But, holy fuck. Yeah. Like, what's the point of those things?

This, you know what I mean? I don't know. Yeah, yeah, that's a good question. What kind of value are they adding? I'm sure they do. Like, I'm sure somebody, somebody's out there pissed off right now. Like, how does Will fucking not know? No, I mean, I think the choice, like, only here. Here in, like, New Mexico. Yeah. Like, it's kind of like a, it's a rare thing. It's interesting how long cactuses can live. Yeah. That's a fun thing, too.

So, Swaroski, like, 200 years old. it's wild but that's this is not with this podcast yeah not here we're here about talk about golf you are so you're at the way you're doing the waste management obviously

are you guys gonna come out we're thinking about we're thinking about Saturday right crazy yeah we're thinking about Saturday yeah and then so how does like waste management to me growing up here last year what's that he hit one last year

you got one last year didn't you that one what one no that was Sam writer oh shit that's crazy that's that's just that's just us not doing our homework because I was sitting with Will there being like, damn, did he really get a hole in one? But that, like, how does the waste management, like, how is it different from things like Augusta and like other places? Because it seems like it literally is out of like Happy Gilman. Oh, it says, yeah, it really is.

Shooter McGavin would struggle here. So this time I put in context, they don't tell you exactly how many people come through the gates, but I know roughly. So on a, on a given, even a good, good golf tournament day, like I would say Farmers Insurance two weeks ago, final round, probably had... That's where he made his bags. 25, 30,000 people. Yeah. Which feels like a lot at a golf tournament.

It's spread out, but it feels like a lot. Saturday at the waste management this week will probably have 250,000 people. It's like the top five, six sporting event in a day. And it's all week. I mean, yesterday's Monday. It's the first day where the course is open to practice. Sorry for the fans.

But typically, even some of the events don't even open. And, you know, you'll trickle in like a few people. I mean, some Monday. People have jobs. I mean, yesterday was. still chaos. I mean, there's so many people. So it's different. But my story that explains that we call all the golfers call it a party that a golf tournament broke out at. So it's like if we were here drinking, then all of a sudden you're like, you know, you want to go mess around on that putting

green? And like that's, that's like the scale. So my first year ever playing it, I tee off on Thursday off the back nine and 16s, you know, right where like everyone filters in through 10. They walk past 10, past 11, and filter into 16. And I'm walking off the 10. And I'm walking off the see, I got, you know, all my golf clothes on, spikes on, looking like a professional golfer. I got my caddy carrying the clubs looking like a caddy. And there's a huge line of people on them. There's these two attractive women in front of me. And I say, excuse me.

And they're in like heels and dresses and all this shit. And they like look at me and look back away. I was like, I was like, excuse me. Like, I'm just trying to get through to the fairway. And she gave me like the, I have a boyfriend look. Oh, no. And I was like, what the fuck are we doing? Like, I'm working.

Like you're here because there's a golf room. But most of people don't even, like, that's not even part of it. Like, that's not the vibe. I mean, they have clubs. Like I have, my buddy, I don't know if you guys know that, you know, he's just Mike now, but Mike Studd and all those. We are. Yeah, he's one of the boys.

He's the best. He's been in the pot a few times. They rolled through last year, him, blue and all the boys. And I got them passes this thing called the Greenskeeper. It's left of 18. And it's like, I've never got to see anything. But it's kind of like a day club, like outdoor day club. And he's like, hey, I'm a.

come out. And I was like, okay, I got you guys these wristbands. And he's like, no, we want to watch you play golf. I said, okay, but I was like, you know, like, it's really fun. Like, every day, but especially Saturday. I was like, don't feel obligated to come watch me play. Like, get in there. So I text him after. I was like, hey, man, sorry. Like, I didn't say hi. Like, there's just a lot of people out there. Whatever he goes. He's like, I think he texts me two days later because he was like never even left the Greenskeeper. Like, it was just too much fun. Because it's just like beer garden. So like people don't even know there's golf going on. 16 you know, but you're there just to boo and get really drunk.

And it's different from anything ever because every other golf tournament is the, it's the golf tournament's the priority. In this case, like, that is the alcohol is the priorities. Yeah. Especially that 16th hole, dude, it's crazy. It's insane. How do you get, go ahead, Bob? I was just going to say how you feel about everyone's starting to throw all that alcohol onto the,

so I like. The green, like how it was like chaos. It was a little much. So basically, they had to change it. this year. I'm not, I'm not going to go out here and say it's like life and death dangerous, but I mean, people are chucking, you know, hands at you that are full of beer. And like, you know, Colt, my buddy Cole got hit with one last year. And he's like, didn't feel good. Uh, I don't mind it. It's, it's crazy. I like this. This is good for golf. I don't think every week, but it's good

for golf, but they are putting cups in solo cups this year. So if you do chuck them, at least like, we're not going to get beaned. But, um, I don't know. I like it. It's fun. It's, it's chaos. It's crazy. It's like we golf is such like an older, older person's sport that like making it younger and all this and that, whatever. The only problem with last year that we got a little of that they're starting to do it for anything. Like they crave, it's like you crave the chaos. And they're like, man, if he if he makes this 30 footer, we're going to throw it and then they'll miss. And he's like, if he taps it in though, we'll throw it too. It's like, eh, okay.

Or you know, like make it make like for the whole one like go nuts. For a bunker shot you make go nuts long. put up going nuts. It did feel like last year was kind of like anything we can possibly make happen and make worth it. We're going to do it. But it's cool, man. It's a, it's rare. I have my favorite funniest stories from this event. And last year was up there with the most dehumanizing and also kind of funny thing ever. But I was in a late group on Saturday, I think. And we get to 15. I'm making like a little charge. And I don't know why the people who set the tournament up did this, but there's a port-a-potty like on the T. And it is really close to a lot.

of people. And, you know, obviously, they're quite noisy. And I had a healthy stream that day. So I hop in there and everyone watches me going there and I could hear people like, you know, chanting as I'm like in the bathroom. And it's like really uncomfortable. And I get out and I just get like, I mean, they're already standing, but it was still like a standing ovation. Like a roar happens as I leave this bathroom. I like to Joe. And I'm like, dude, I don't even feel like a fucking person anymore. Just for a piss. Like, thank God I didn't have to take a shit. Because like that had just would have been a tough one in there. So you have that.

I've had my favorite heckles. I've been at this one. So it's a great event. It's just, it's very different. Is it, when you're looking at like your first couple of times doing the waste management,

is there like a level of phomo that you had at any point being like, these people are having. Every year. Every year. I remember, like, I don't know about you, but like being on the buses going to like college football and seeing all these,

all these people tailgating. Like, damn, I've never been to a tailgating. I got to do all the tailgating. Yeah. So we roll reverse. It is hard, man.

I guess like last year I got I got all these friends in town. And like one night, you know, like I get invited to go to dinner with like golf who I'm buddies with and Yelich and all like just like my favorite like coolest athlete friends who we keep up with each other. But I never get to see them because they're busy when when when I'm not busy and I'm busy when they're busy and they're like, man, we're going out to bottle blonde tonight. You know, I know it's probably hard, but you want to come and I'm just like, fuck. yeah, like I want to go. And then they're like, no, you're not coming. I'm like, I know. But like, all the parties are this week and it's so much fun and everyone's out and watching people like just drink while we're all golfing and just seem like truly having the time of their lives.

Well, I'm just like wrestling between making bogeys, birdies, and pars. It's just like it's just not nearly as fun. Changing diapers. Yeah. Changing diapers. Now this week, Super Bowl week. Yeah, now it's Super Bowl. It just makes everything so much more.

It's just crazy. year, but I don't know, man. I have FOMO every year at this event, but there have been times, like, my favorite, like, last year's Saturday. My last, like, five holes is my, like, one of my favorite things that's happened to me in golf. Just because when you do perform in front of all those people, you guys would get this more, we don't get this very often. But it's like, the rush of it is, well, you know, it's worth not drinking the beers. But, yeah, there's still times from, like, God, dang, it looks pretty. You know, if I get it on, like, a little bogey run, I'm like, I could just be out there. there right now.

Like, I got full acts. I got this little credential gets me everywhere. I could be doing all the coolest stuff. But I don't know. It's a good straightoff. Here's a question. How important in the scheme of G.A. rankings and all that is the waste management. That's what I'm thinking is this.

Why not become the golfer that's drinking while you're playing? John Daly. Not a lot. Yeah. Oh, he, John Daly. He does that. He's allegedly. He smokes cigarettes and drinks.

Yeah. He's the fine. Yeah. Because you're not allowed to drink. We are not, we're not allowed to. Yeah, maybe that'll be a rule we could knock down. Just for this tournament. Yeah, just for this.

Like, that's a good, that's a fair. When you go to Augusta, I've never been, but it's like the hot dogs are still the same prices. Oh, yeah. They were the day they open. They have like, this prestige. Yeah, like, only presidents and like senators can like golf on this place other than pro golfers.

Like, why not make the waste management, like, the ultimate, like, fuck you to golf in a way that, like, takes these younger generations and it's like, oh, we want. want to do this shit. This is awesome. That's not a terrible. Yeah, we could have a one-off. Renovators. And you're just getting hammered while you're playing golf. Yeah, it's like, do you guys watch The Wire? I've not seen the Wire. Oh, but I hear it's incredible, dude.

There's so many shows out there now that are amazing. Like Last of Us is now a thing that everyone's watching. Well, the wire's old. Hey, listen. But they have a thing called Hamsterdam where, like, in Baltimore they made, like, you could do drugs in this one square mile. You could do whatever you want it. There's no rules. And, like, that's what this event should be.

It's like, yeah, the one place we're like, we'll turn a blind eye to this. That's perfect captioning. Max Homa thinks heroin should be allowed. Yeah. No, no drugs. You brought that up. What's one rule you would change in golf?

Man. Big Cat did say something on part of my take once. I don't know if you guys have heard that one, but where he said that you should be allowed to fight one fan a year in like any sport. And I was like, last year at the PGA in Oklahoma, I was telling Joe, my caddy about that rule because there's this fucking guy that was just wearing me out for like six holes in a row.

He's clearly just walking with us. And I was just like, dough. I was like, that's the fucking guy. Like, that's my guy. But I was like, we have to be smart about it. So I'm not like a super large man. I'd pick a small guy. And I just go to town.

And I think, I think that would be, that would be a good one. Obviously pretty, pretty unrealistic, unrealistic rule change. But definitely something we thought of. I do think that, I do think that like, To live towards doing it like shorts, I don't mind. Like, you could wear shorts.

It makes this seem like at least a little less dorky, although some people got like very white legs. But I don't know. The real one is, I guess the real one I would do is like range finders, the lasers you shoot the pin distance-wise, I would use. Because if everyone has one, I don't see the advantage of it. So it's like, might as well do it. It'll speed things up to an extent.

It makes things easier on everybody. that one seems pretty basic, but we'll see. So speaking of, like, fighting guys, is there a golfer that you would given the opportunity when maybe throw hands with? I mean, I get, yeah, I mean. But it could be anybody in a given...

Somebody on the front of your mind right now. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody on the front of your mind, you can say them, you don't have to say them. Who do you think you could take in the tour? I could take, like, I could take a lot of... I was, I'm blessed my dad, uh, was a boxer growing up. So he taught me at a box. I'm a very unassuming. Like, I know I could at least I'm also not scared to get my ass beat. Like that's, I think that's neat. I think at some point. Yeah, like, like, like, like, we fall. Obviously, you guys are all going to kick my ass. Like,

I'm cool with that. But like, I'd rather do that than like, run. So I'm going to at least stand in there and take a few. But yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot of guys on tour. I would, I would like, I would like my chance against. But it's not like I dislike that many people or really anybody enough to just be like, I'm just going to bite them. But I mean, there's times when you're pissed off. And it's kind of just any, when you make like four bogies in a row, it's kind of just anybody. Yeah, anybody's wrong thing. I'm ready right now. My dad always had this joke. I wore a or this ugly ass pink shirt when I was a junior golfer and this guy, we were leaving the course. I played so bad. I'm so mad steaming in the front seat. I'm probably like 15, 16. And this guy

cuts off my dad. He's usually like a little more of the hot head than me. And I start, yelling at the car. The guy in front, my dad goes, my dad goes, if you want to get out, you can get out. And, and he was like, could you imagine, like on the news, like, like, golfer and pink shirt just beats the hell out of some road-raged driver. And I was like, yeah, it probably wasn't going to go that way. I probably, you know, end up flat on my back. But we have no, I've always been scared of a golfer actually fighting another golfer because, like, we just had a tea throwing incident a year, a week ago in Dubai between, yeah, Rory McElroy and Patrick Reed, Patrick Reed, like, flicked a tea towards Rory and it was a humongous story,

which is pretty sad. And I'm really nervous that if we ever, anybody did get in a real altercation, we just never make things look cool. And we can't make fighting look cool. Like, there's just no way some two golfers are actually going to have like a real fist fight that you're like, oh, wow, you know, it's going to be like, oh, boy, you know. Yeah, that was a bad look for all of us. So I hope it never happened.

It would bring viewers to the, you know. It would bring viewers and everyone would cringe and like kind of be like, okay, you know, I didn't need to see that. So I feel like it's good that most of us are are smart enough not to ever really even get into a hold me back situation. We avoid it at all costs. Is there an internal rivalry that you have that your opponent doesn't even know he's a part of? multiple, but not in a, I don't like them way. Right.

Like, you know, I want to beat him way. Who? Man, Tom Kim. And he has the same thing. I know he does because his catty's one of my best friends. I know he has the same thing. But we played singles at a President's Cup. The sad part is he's 20.

And I'm 32. Hold on one second. Yes, sir. I don't. Whoa. Oh, so are you going to abide by what you're being told? Hey, Dave. Good to meet you.

We're doing, we're in line, brother. No, we're just trying to do our part. We're doing, we're doing, you know why we're doing. And we've got people coming up being like, you can't talk. Do you know why we're doing this down here? Because we're doing the rundown. Right on yesterday. It's because you have to do it.

That's all I'm saying is we're trying to do this thing. Can we talk up there or no? You're allowed to talk. I think, I mean, yeah, like maybe. Is your house, you know? Yeah, I don't know. That's why I said that. I came in and like the busing guy says no one can talk up there.

So what did you say? What was your reaction? I walked my ass down here and asked permission to talk. Okay. All right, thanks. I hope your shows go well up there, Dave. Thank you. You never know what you're going to get with him.

You know, when he made the comment, I was thinking about it too, and he was like, when you're 53, 54th gone to roster, you're going to be early to the meeting. It's like when you're the owner, you can show up whenever you want to, but it's like, yeah, if you want to want to run a piss poor organization. Lead from the front. He says hand up, lead from the front. Yeah, exactly.

Like, that's all leading from the front. Like, that's culture. Like, we know there's a hard out here at 10-15, and he wants to come take three minutes of our time. that's Dave though I'll tell you what though Dave fucks with the boys he does fuck with the boys like that's he's the dad

he's the dad that's never gonna say I love you but like the more he makes fun of you like he cares yeah he cares and that's that's important I feel like during what did you ask does he love you you think oh yeah

love us yes I think so I mean I think we're probably yeah top five favorite people I don't think he'll ever say it and I think he'll always like you know make those faces like he'll just go yeah I mean I like you guys

you're fine I mean, you're doing great job. He has worked for me. And he'll just say something that, like, wouldn't make him seem like he's the boss. And then we just... He takes that one pat on the back, you're like, oh.

Yeah. Yeah, but he doesn't... I think he hangs... I think he hangs with Sylvana and they'll, like, look at some of our kinds of stuff and they kind of chuckled together. Yeah, they'll just be laying in bed and just kind of like... But he'll never say that.

You see this? Yeah, he'll never say that. Like, those guys are stupid. And he'll just kind of keep scrolling. I'm Kim. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, he's 20.

I'm 32. He's a future, or he already is, superstar, but he's a future just like world beater talent. And I think part of it is that I'm just jealous, that it took me so long to figure it out. And he's, you know, can't even legally drink. And he's just whipping up on all of us. That's probably part of it. And a lot of it is this caddy.

And I, you know, I have to see him all the time. So I want to, I don't know. It's like, it's like a motivating thing. So I definitely, you know, check in how he's doing in tournaments. And I hope that I win more tournaments than he does until I retire much earlier than he will. But it's also an embarrassing one. Like I said, you want a rival that's like your age. And this kid is like he's truly a child.

So what I was doing at 20 versus what he was doing at 20 is just so drastically different. It's outrageous. But he's definitely on my list right now. And he's also taking me to dinner next week. He's taking me a Korean barbecue next week in L.A. So we're also really good friends, I think. It's close. And he's closer.

Yeah, so I'm stating it, yeah. But he might food poisoning me. I'm not really sure. I don't know where his rivalry in this stands, but I know he feels similarly. Is he here this week? He's here this week, yeah. When is it? It starts Thursday, right?

That's the first day that everything is going down. How do you get paired up with him a lot or now? I've been paired up with him. Maybe this is the other part. I got paired up with him in Vegas this year and he won the golf tournament and didn't make a bogey for all 72 holes, which is just like not a real thing. Yeah. So he did that. Man, he sounds like stuff.

He did that. So he said my sights high. Yeah. Yeah. Is you brought up caddies a couple of times like, I don't know golf. I probably swung a club 10 times in my entire life. I'm awful. But what is, like, how important is a caddy through the process of the weekend for you? Like, sizing things up for you and stuff like, what do they do in general?

It's like, give me the basic one-on-one on what a caddy does. Their bones is carry the clubs, clean the clubs and get like numbers and kind of do like strategy type stuff. Mine is different. I've always valued caddies. Some guys, you know, everyone wants something different. Some people want like, some people want like a psychologist kind of out there, a friend out there, where they want somebody who's just really good at like, you know, getting waters, you know, just like almost like an assistant.

Mine, I've been lucky. Mine is one of my best friends. I've known him since I was six. He was a great golfer. It still is a good golfer, but he played pro golfer a little bit back in the day. And so I kind of get, I'm lucky. I get a really, like, really good caddies. He's great at all the strategy, all the picking what club to hit.

He's great at all that. He's also like someone I enjoy walking around with because we're together more than I'm with, you know, my wife, really. Over the last like six years, we spend so much time together. So I need to like that person because if I start to get resentful of being around somebody that much, it would be hard to do my job. But so I kind of get like the full package with mine. So like I said, everyone's different. Like I had a caddy one time fill in for Joe. He was gone for a week.

And every time he had me a water, like he'd have like the top almost off. So I didn't have to open the top. I'm like nice though. Yeah, but I'm like, I'm so good at that. Like I can do that. You know, I don't need help with that. I need help. Like, is it seven or eight iron?

Yeah. So it's just like everybody. But clearly at some point somebody told him like that was a thing, which is also sad and crazy to me. But I don't know. Some people, everyone, everyone's different, I guess. But I like having a friend out there that like enjoy the wins together and then the losses we can like discuss. And I have a lot of faith and trust in what he'll suggest that we should do better.

Have you ever blew a gasket on him? It's actually funny. He's yelled at me more than I've yelled at him. It's kind of my running joke about how like last year, last year, maybe it's two years ago at Pebble Beach Sunday. I got off to a great start. And on the fifth hole, I hit in a bunker and I had a fuck lie and made double bogey. And then the next hole I hit in the bunker and got a fuck lie. And I hit a really good shot and got a terrible bounce.

I had like 20 feet. And I like kind of bitched and moaned about it. And this is why I like Joe because I always tell him. I say, if I'm being a bitch, you tell me I'm being a bitch. And I'll stop. Like he's older than me. Like I was like, you know, you're kind of big brother here. I'll listen to you.

Yeah. And but I kind of like bitched and moaned to him about like, I was like, what a fucking bounce. You know, like so fucking bad. and he snapped on me. And he goes, you know, I don't even remember what he said. He yelled at me. I looked down like, Jesus Christ.

Like in front of other people, I'm like, good God. What do you say? Like, hey, you're starting to be a bitch? Yeah, basically, he was like, he's like, quick complaining. He had a great fucking shot. It's like, not that big a deal, whatever. So I'm like, okay. And I walked over and I, fortunately, I made the putt,

which was like maybe part of him just scaring the life out of me. And he comes over to me. Like, this is why I'm, our relationship, I love it so much. He comes over and he goes, dude, I'm so sorry, but I want to rake that bunker on five, my back went out. And I'm like, I'm kind of on tilt right now. I'm like, okay, man. He goes, I'm really sorry about that.

But I've only really got injured. Yeah. Yeah. I've only really gotten mad at him like a couple times. So like he, I don't think I've ever yelled at him. But yeah, it's, it's fun when he is wrong. And there's been a couple times where like he catches, he catches when I can, I know he's wrong and I go to say something.

And he's like got his head down. He's like, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Sorry. Because he knows like, I don't air him out. everyone's trying their best. It's impossible. I mean, he's guessing what, you know, educated guess on what we should be doing. So when he's wrong, it's not like I'm like, whatever. But every once in a while, like one time, you know, I'm telling him at six,

and it's five, he says five, and I'm saying six and it's five. And I have five. And it goes over the green, it's fucked. And like, that's when I can at least look at him and be like, you know, I was right. Yeah. And sometimes that's all I need. But I don't yell at it. You hear some guys blow up and they are some funny fucking.

stories but, man, I just don't have that in me. Wow. Where are you at in the argument of golf being a sport or not? Man, I'm like very middle. Like, I don't, it's active. Yeah. It does warm my heart when, like, my friends who are real athletes, like the no argument athlete, when they go play golf and then they tell me the next day, like,

their back hurts and their shoulders are hurting. I'm like, see, this shit's fucking day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's probably not. I think if we had to carry our own clubs, I would consider it a sport. But it's just, it, yeah, we're tiptoeing the line.

We're definitely, like, people bat dog cheerleading and say that's not a sport. And they did it way more athletic than we are. So, like, if they're not even, if they're not even getting approved, then, like, we shouldn't be approved fully yet. But we're gaining on it. But I wouldn't, like, you guys are, like,

there's a humongous difference between like football and baseball and basketball and then like golf like this is noticeable just the eye test would tell you that like we're not doing a whole lot but it is active it's harder than you think but yeah it's definitely not not rigorous enough I would consider like a full-blown sport but we're in the sport family I like a distant cousin you're saying like we're distant cousin the way you handled that yeah outrageous question was extremely graceful. Like, could have easily taken... I know. I know. I know the boys, man. I get it. I get it. I got it. I'm probably pissed right now. Yeah. I get it, man. You heard a lot of scoffs in the back when you said that.

Yeah, because they all were thinking that it's not. When did you decide like, they're pro, they're pro golf? When were you're like, this is, this is for me? This is what I'm going to be fantastic at. You get a real sports. Uh, so I played, uh, you know, like football, basketball and golf. Those were like my three, like, loves grown up. A receiver? What's that? Are you a slot receiver? So I was going to be the Great White Hope. I was a nasty corner.

Oh, dude. There's a boy from Iowa out there trying to live a dream right now. You see that guy out there? He is. I saw that. Unicorn, we have to protect him. So, but yeah, so I was like, damn. I was like 11.

So it's not like I thought of that at all. But I think, who was a Seahorn back in the day? Yeah. He was nasty. So I mimic my game after him. But yeah, I was all right. I'm fast. Like, that's kind of my thing.

Never was a big guy. I can fly around a little bit. And I like saying that because you can't prove that I can't. It looks like you can probably play. It looks like you can run around a little bit, though. Yeah, but you're never going to see it. You should when you're like at a par five or something like that. Get a good sprint to your ball.

It's kind of show everybody what's one real quick. That would be funny. If he like hit it and he looks a little bit, watched it laying and just like yacks down there, dude. That would be awesome. That would be incredible. Yeah. Put that in the back pocket.

I was like 11. And my dad kind of. kind of astutely said, hey, man, if you want to be a professional athlete, like, you need to pick one. Like, this is your time. Like, you need to treat it like a job. And he goes, I think you should only be doing one. And I sat there and looked in the mirror. And I'm like, well, I'm five foot two. Can't really jump. I think I'm fast, but I met a lot of guys faster. And I was like, I think golf's the way to do it. So it wasn't like I thought that I was maybe better at golf, but I felt like it might fit me better. It didn't get hit. Nobody had to hit me. And yeah, so then it was like,

Like from 11 on, I quit everything else and started going on the golf course six days a week. My parents would drop me off and bang balls. I didn't know I was going to make it, make it for a while. But I've always said, man, for anybody who's ever made it and probably anything, but especially sports, you need like the perfect amount of delusion. Because if when you tell a kid, like, I remember I had teachers be like, what do you want to do in your grow up? I'm going to be on the PJ tour. And they'd be like, okay, but if that doesn't work out, what are you going to do?

And I'm like, why the fuck would that not work out? Like I work at this as hard as you work at your job. Like it's going to work. But like looking back on it now is like a 32 year old dude. It's like the fact that a kid I was just like, yeah, of course I'm going to make it here is like you have to be a bit crazy. But like you have to have enough of that realism and awareness to know that like it's going to be really hard. But and you have to change things. It's not like I'm just going to wake up and just make it.

But also you have to have enough delusion to ASEA anytime anybody ever said, hell, man, you know, that's crazy. Like you might need a backup plan. And I could look at you and be like, no, like, that's, that's not how you make it. You don't make it with the backup plan. So it's kind of fun. But I was thankful my dad did that when I was young because you do, in my opinion, you know, unless you're one of those freak, you know, Bo Jackson type people. Like, you need to focus on one thing. Because there's so many people that are working at it and that are great at it, that like you can't be wasting time. I couldn't be wasting time trying to, you know, figure out if I was going to blow up the guy in the flat or not.

Like, that's just, that's just, I'm going to waste of my time. So you guys seem like you're more the, the family style that is pick, do one sport when you're growing up. I want, I want, because I know you probably are aware of those arguments. Yeah.

Like golf, it could be like, golf, you might have to put in that type of time. Golf is one of those sports. I agree. I agree. I agree. You're like, you can't do anything else.

I do a guy. I want my kid if he decides to play sports. I want him to play all of them. Because I do think it makes you a well-rounded. human. Like, I think that there are golfers who have grown up and only played golf and I think that they. Yeah, and I don't think that's a good thing. Personality-wise is great for their game, but like, I don't think that's, yeah, that's, but it does feel like that. It's like they take themselves very seriously. And it's like our biggest, most popular golf tournament is just a party.

That's in Scottsdale. So it's like, we're not, we're low on the totem pole. We're growing. Tiger put us everybody on the map. He changed the, changed the landscape of golf. all forever for all the professionals. But at the end of the day, I do think that it's important to play a lot of sports just to get. I also think it helps with your hand to eye. I think all those things are important to growth. But yeah, I mean, golf is different. It will always be a slower, older person's sport just because it's not taxing on the body.

It's the thing that all, you know, so many athletes and so many super athletes decide to, like, play after. Because it's, you know, I was on a phone call with Larry Fitzgerald yesterday. And he is obsessed with golf. You never met somebody more obsessed with golf. And this dude is a no doubt or hall of famer probably. I mean, he should be in the conversation for best of all time. And this dude just wants, like, he's asking me questions about how do I get better at golf? Because that's the thing is it doesn't beat him up anymore.

It's a passion. It is hard. But I think that his personality and his outlook towards the game is benefited from the fact that he played other things growing up. And I think that's why people love Larry in golf now because he doesn't take himself seriously. because he's humbled by the game of golf, but we all also respect him because he's a legitimate freak of nature. When you keep saying that golf is always going to be an older man sport,

how do you, like, in what ways can we make the younger generation appreciate golf more? So I'll give you, for example, like, when I'm in high school, me and all my buddies never thought about golf at all.

As soon as everyone graduated college, all of a sudden, all my boys are picking up clubs and doing whatever and like, this is great for business, this is great for that. Like, how do you start leaking in?

into the high school, like that, you know, the younger ages that they start picking up the clubs more. So it needs to be more accessible. So a golf course I grew up on is par 61. So most golf course, par 72, the public golf course had a par three course, nine holes. Longest hole is 150 yards. And it was owned by a company called American Golf. And they had a deal, at least in all the ones that they owned around where I grew up, that, you know, if you were under like 12, 11 or somewhere like that, you could play the par three course for $1 all day. And then you can play the big one for like $16. And as golf has boomed because of the pandemic,

golf blew up across the country, golf course are getting more expensive. And that's okay. It's a business. But like let the kids play. Like get them out there. Get them out playing. Get them out.

Deals on hitting balls. Like banging balls is, let's just say it's $8 a bucket, make it three. So that they don't have to go beg their parents for $20. And, you know, like, make them feel like it's okay. And also it will, I don't know if this one will ever change, but the adults need to get, that are at the golf course need to clean up their act and stop

kind of ho-huming, oh, man, I'm playing with a kid today. It's like my dad would always say that. And he liked it because I was, you know, a good player as a young, young kid. But he would say, you know, we get paired with another other two dudes that who obviously don't know us, strangers. And he would, he'd say he always loved it because they'd roll their eyes to their friend. Like, oh, God, we got to play with this kid today. And my dad would make me play fast. Like if it took me too long to get off the box, he would just have me play up where his drive was. But like by the end of the day, these guys are like, oh, my God, this kid's so good. But it's like, don't you, you like judge me before you.

Like the point is to get in, like get people into this game. So that the pros are doing, I think, a good job. I have like, I know Patrick Cantley hosts three golf tournaments on the court, on the tournaments. We grew up playing in Southern California in the SCPGA, Southern California Professional Golf Association. So then I'm doing my first one in two weeks. And I think that helps a little bit. Kind of giving kids that look up to, you know, maybe, you know, even if they aren't into golf, but they have to watch it because their dad makes them here and there.

And they see, hey, you know, so-and-so is hosting a golf tournament. I want to play in that one day. Maybe that could be an avenue. But I just think accessibility and these adults need to chill. Like if a kid's being loud at the golf course, you don't need to reprimand them. Like, just say, hey, you know, we're a little quieter here to respect thing. But, like, don't make it where I have to walk on eggshells. because I felt like that as a kid a lot.

And fortunately, my dad didn't make me double down and feel that. He's like, hey, you know, kind of like, screw them, do your thing. But be respectful. But he was said in a nicer way. But there's just like this stuff. It can be stuffy. And that just turns kids off. Kids' attention spans are short.

That's why football is like America's sport. And it's so fun to watch because it's like quick, quick hitting highlights. Like highlights and golf, like you, they're slow and they're not as riveting. but if you ever played the game, you'd like, fuck, that's amazing, you know? But it's just like, it's not like right off the top of your head that it would be like so clearly fun. So I hope that I hope that as things go on, like kids will start to feel more welcome to come out to the course because I tell all the people who are just, even my friends, as you reference there, you get out of college and like, man, I want to play golf. I don't want to embarrass myself.

I'm like, who are you worried is going to embarrass you? And they'll be like, oh, you know, there's this guy that was playing the other day. I said, well, just picture this. If I come out, I'll beat the shit out of that guy at golf. Like, he'd be embarrassed to play with me. And I don't give a shit. So, like, you go play. Just go have fun. Do your thing.

Don't, like, that's the problem. There's, like, this weird, there's a weird thing in golf that I'm hoping slowly gets, torn down a bit. What is that weird thing you're kind of implying? Is it that, get uppity vibe? I think it is. But I just think, like, okay, so if I go play, if I went and played football with you guys, obviously, I would look like an actual, like a giraffe, like a baby giraffe out there.

Like, I wouldn't know what to do. A baby catch a few. you, I'd maybe trip a few times. I'd look like an idiot. But I feel like the nature of that sport, like the intuition isn't just to immediately like make fun of that person. It's like, you know, it's just like, oh, it's fun. It's a backyard game, you know, but golf doesn't feel like a backyard game, at least in how it was made. It was a gentleman's sports, a gentleman's game. But it's like, it should be a kid's game. Shit, we're whacking a fucking golf ball through the air and everyone sucks at it. Like, I suck at it sometimes. Like,

It's so hard. So I just think that there is an uppiness to it that, like, as you get better and you, you have to pay to play. So I guess maybe part of it is kind of like going back to the public transportation in the sky thing. Oh, I'm paying $300 for a flight. I don't want this baby crying behind me. It's like, well, tough shit.

Like, there's a kid out here going to learn. And he just wants to get better at the same game you want to get better at. Like, let him have a chance. Let her have a chance and, like, just see what happens and make it fun and make it enjoyable. There's something weird about maybe it's just the price point of it. I think people feel entitled to like, this is my day, and I want it to go exactly how I think it should go, and it just drives me nuts. I'm glad I grew up at the golf course I grew up at, because it was not like that nearly as much. It was a men's club. All the boys had beers.

I would sit there and wait for my dad to finish. I'd hit balls, get a soda, and we would go home, and it was very like everyone can play. No one's getting strokes. Go prove yourself, and that's how you grow up and learn. But golf in general just doesn't seem like it's got over that hump fully yet but I think it will I think Tiger made an enormous impact on that because he made kids feel cool to play golf at least for me when someone's like oh you play golf that's dorky I'm like go watch this fucking guy play golf because it is not dorky it is it's exciting and it's cool I think what Netflix is doing too with that yeah like the Formula one yeah formula but them doing it with the golf and everything else I think that's going also for you like

giving you your flowers to me it's like the way you are your personality on social media you do make it seem like you have an edginess, a looseness about you to where you make the golfing fun. Like good day, bad day, you're still going to, whether you need to show up on social media or not, like you make it seem like, oh, he doesn't take it so serious, even though you are a pro at your craft clearly, if anybody's listening to this.

It seems like you've been all in on this thing for a while, but I, like, admire from afar your ability to play good or play bad and talk about it in a way that's like relatable to people. I feel like people take a big liking to you. Thank you. Yeah, I guess I'd put it as I don't, I take what I do very serious. I don't take myself very serious. And I hope that kids and fans of golf grasp that, like, concept.

Because like, I want to beat everybody every time I play. But I also know that if I don't, it's not everyone's problem that I didn't. Yeah, man. And like I said, I want golf to flourish. And I love this game. and it has a lot of benefits to it for, you know, business and honestly just joy. And so it's like at some point, it's fun. And we're playing golf in a field, man.

It's awesome. But there's just little walls. We got to knock down Netflix. That's a great point. They'll do a great job with showcasing at least for kids to be able to see in a real TV show. Like, oh, shit, maybe I want to try that. And like then get out and do it. Because it is weird, man.

Like every, like you said. Every single one of my friends right after college, like, fuck, man. Like, I want to learn how to play golf. What should I do? And I'm like, God, dang, I wish you would have said this when we were 15 because I would have had a lot more friends. A lot more friends. I know it's 1020 right now.

We know you got to go. But the last thing we'll ask is, you seem like your mindset is just like really just well done. Like, you seem like you've really put things in a perspective, understanding that just because I lost doesn't mean it's everybody else's issue. Enjoying whether you win or lose in the way you projected to everybody else. Like, how is that, like, is your mindset always been that way? Or did you have to navigate through the ups and downs of golf to really find the calm that you're dealing with right now? Yeah, I mean, even, like, it goes ebbs and flows.

Some days I can act like an asshole. I try to keep it to myself. But, like, if you're, you know, Joe, my wife, Lacey, like, they would know when I'm being kind of a dick about it. But I guess a lesson I learned, like, I've always thought of myself as a respectful person. and I remember I had a really bad attitude for a while, like through college. And I can't remember if exactly what happened, but it was one day where I think someone like almost pointed out to me. Like when if there's two other people at least playing with this every day. And if I'm being an asshole out there, that person has to deal with me and I'm ruining their day.

And I'm like, oh, that's not what I mean to do. Like I'm just trying to ruin my own day. You're just dealing with your own shit. Yeah. So like I guess that's kind of when I also have a bad attitude in my own head now, but I try my best. Like some people will be like, oh, man, you're just so calm and your attitude. so good. It's like some days it's not very good. I just don't want people to see that anymore because it's embarrassing and it's and it's rude. Like it's rude to the other guys out there that I play against

who are also trying to do the same shit I am if they got to deal with some little sour puss, you know, stomping their feet and stuff. But no, it's everything's that I've been, have been flow. But I think as I've gotten older, I've just realized that you're going to have good weeks, you're going to have bad weeks. And at the end of the day, you know, the journey is, is that that's that's the fun part the winds come the winds go things things uh think you have bad weeks you know where it feels like the end of the world but like the fun part is just getting pacing that forever and i think as i've gotten older and appreciated that i've appreciated some of the bad days more because it's like all right this is the day i'm going to learn when you win

you you learn a little bit but you when you fail you learn quite a bit and um before i would kind of back myself away from that and be like god sucks doing this but no one that you're not going to win every golf tournament. It's kind of, you can appreciate the weeks where you have to grind and and dig it out a little bit and turn, you know, nothing into something. So, but it's, it's all been a learning curve. I mean, if you ask my friends when I was 16 to 20, they probably thought I was the biggest tool bag in the world playing golf, but I've been trying to get better at that. Brother, it's been an absolute pleasure having you on the show. And this is good point out. You guys. You guys are the best. Thank you. Yeah, man. It's been fun watching social media.

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