Bussin' With The Boys - Taylor Talks Cowboys & Fashion, Will Talks Wrestling + Nickelback Explains Their Start, & Why They Were Turned Into A Meme

Episode Date: March 21, 2023

Recorded: January 24th 2023 | In this episode Taylor is thinking about changing up his style and wardrobe by becoming a cowboy. They preview our trip to the University of Texas and the possibility of meeting Joe Rogan. Will also takes a deep dive into wrestling and the culture behind it all. After the intro, Chad Kroeger and Daniel Adair of Nickelback join us on the bus. We talk about how Nickelback got its start and the former members that are no longer with them. The boys talk about some of their biggest songs/albums and how they toured the same album twice. Their process of writing music and the way they go about paying their members. Finally Chad and Daniel talk about the weird hate that Nickelback gets and where it came from. This is a lengendary episode and you're not going to want to miss it, enjoy. 0:00 Intro 2:35 will’s new fit 5:10 Taylor is gonna become a poser 5:48 taylor is getting a new dog to protect his little farm 9:50 taylor is almost a cowboy 15:32 Texas spring tour and spring tour spots 19:25 the mothership and joe rogan 25:47 what the boys are most excited about Texas 39:50 girls gone wild 33:04 will tapes his mouth at night 40:00 spencer lee and wrestling talk 52:50 UFC fight 58:09 telling your parents you're quitting a sport is so scary 1:05:53 being competitive all the time 1:13:2 Beer olympics 1:16:58 Shoutout no free shoutout 1:28:00 would you rather 1:34:16 NICKELBACK 1:36:39 Chad was a hustler 1:48:17 How you get paid for song writing 1:57:21 Nickelback toured the same album twice 2:04:53 Chad’s cousin was in the band but chads uncle talked him into quitting before they got big 1:06:42 Talk How Nickleback Got All Of The Celebrities To Be In The Rock Star Music Video 2:10:28 Taylor got asked to be in a MTV video 2:12:34 Nickleback explains how you get paid for writing a song 2:18:43 Chad wrote animals in 45 minutes 2:32:57 Talks About How Nickleback Became A Meme and Why He Didn’t Care ---- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Chevy: Chevy Silverado - The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever. Proper Wild - Go to https://barstool.link/ProperwildBSS to try Proper Wild 30% Off. Philo TV - Sign up at https://barstool.link/PhiloBussin to get 50% off your first month Factor - Go to https://barstool.link/FactorBussin and use code bussin50 for 50% off your first box Duke Cannon - Use code BUSSIN10 at https://barstool.link/DukeCannonBSS for 10% off your entire order The Farmer's Dog - Go to https://barstool.link/FarmersdogBussin to get 50% off your first box + free shippingFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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tell us about your little thing you got going on there, Willie. You do a pretty bitching right now. It's Texas week right now. No, no, no, no. Not with me. They stole the Big 12 championship in 2009. I think a lot of Texas fans know that.

A lot of Nebraska fans are at home right now, yelling at the TV. We fucking tell them, Will. But it is Texas week. We got the boots going. We got the jacket. We got the jacket that fits the fucking boot cut jeans. It's the only pair of boot cut jeans I had. I was like a

bachelorette in Nashville. I went to when I went to Trent Murphy's wedding. It was out in Austin, Texas. We were on that main street. I forget what it's called. That shopping street in Austin, Texas. Eighth? Sixth Street. Is that it? That one's where you party. That one's where you party.

But I was just like a Bachelorette Nashville, dude. I walked in. I got an entire fit. I got a hat. I got a white. Hey, the hat you got two is fire. From Tacomas? Yeah.

I think that's what these boots are. But the jeans are from? What? Coveas. Coveas? Okay, Tocovas. See that again, Jack? In the mic.

Tacoma is a truck. Walked into Tocovas, boots, boot cut jeans, a white tea, and then I went down the road to I forget what hat spot, but then I got. myself a nice little cowboy hand. But it was a good looking Cabo hat. And it had a little bit of a bend on it. Not too squirly up top.

You're not doing new turns out there. Right, right, right, right. Making that nice left and right turn. You look good in that. They said some, I was like, should I go flat bill, cowboy and stuff like then? They're like, you don't want to be known as a guy that's all this and no cattle or something like that. They threw out a nice little quote to me. Yeah.

Very technical. All hat, no cattle. That's right. But they're like, you don't want to go too much cattle because you're not a cowboy. You don't do this shit all the time. So you don't want a front like you are. He goes, we won't put a little modern in there for you. I think it'll shape nicely with your jaw.

But I would stay away from the... If I were you, I would just stay away from the flat. I was like, hey, say less, brother, do what you got to do. Cut off a little... They start rimming it, a fucking rim job around those things. You don't I'm talking about Jack? They like steam it and stuff? They steam it.

They're blowing the steamer in front of you. They're molding the hat on the top. They're doing all that. They're pinching it in. Hell yeah. Yeah, but it was all that to say it's Texas week, so I want to go all out for Texas. Cowboys are one of the top categories.

of people that shame posers that look at people, oh, his pants aren't long enough, oh, he doesn't have, he doesn't have a buckle. Why would you wear a buckle unless you earn a buckle? They have, like, a whole bunch of fucking deals. It's a whole culture. I'm here to say, boys and girls, I'm about to be a poser.

I'm all about that shit. And I am not a cowboy. You got a couple chickens. Hey, you got a couple chickens. You got a couple horses. You got fucking ducks. I got goats, too. You got goats now.

I'm thinking I'm in the market for a bison as well. I want to get a bison or a longhorn. Yeah, I saw that. I be bitching. I saw that. I be bitching, dude. I've been one guy, shout out Howie, who was a rookie for the Titans. He's like, my family has long horn, super low maintenance.

Just got to make sure they have grass, a little bit of hay, a nice salt lick, and they'll just live in the pastures of them big ass horns. Yeah, bro. Which I'm fired up about. Yes, dude. On Instagram story up of it every day? Yeah, dude, just checking in it on Betsy. Yeah.

Also, I'm getting another dog. I'm fucking pissed about it. You're getting another dog? I know. Yeah. This dog is a, it's like a, it's a great, Pyrenees. It's a great Pyrenees. My wife said, hey, we got to get one to protect the goats. It won't even live in the house. It will never be in the house. It'll just stay out there.

I mean, that's not bad. I started looking up, I started looking up videos on Great Pyrenees. Them fuckers, there was one. There's a story that came out in article, if you will, I believe it was in Texas, actually. 11 coyotes. Killed them all. Coming in to fucking take down some sheep and goat. It killed seven of them. The other four were like, hey, we've seen what you did to our brother. And fucking booked. Yeah, don't think twice. about buying that dog. Get that dog. Name something cheeky,

like over the top masculine and like, good luck. Or get them. You know what I have? I have a great Pyrenees at home. I grew up with a great Pyrenees and he is the fucking man.

Really? He's mixed with lab so he's half white, half black on the face and his name is Harvey Dent. Oh, that's a good name. He will patrol that backyard. Bro,

that's what it's about too. I'm kind of fired up. Like, I have my own security dog ripping out there. And he's living outside the whole time. It doesn't matter. got to deal with him. I don't got to

fucking worry about walking and pooping him all that. Brother, just shit where you might want to shit. Can you throw up a great pyrenees? Because I was thinking some old dog with straggly wiry hair. No, they're fluffy. They're fluffy boys. You know how they got like the must of the little be beards and shit like that? No, not even a dire wolf. It'd be sick to have a wolf though. Oh, those

some cool looking dog. Yeah, yeah, and they go fucking hard, 150 pounds of American twisted steel. Yeah, and it... And again, as long as it's outside. Look at the fucking size of that thing. Yeah, it's a big boy. Yeah, there's a puppy out there right now. That's a good boy. There's someone out there in Nashville or not outside of Nashville in the state of Tennessee that has great Pyrenees.

And it's literally there's a puppy out there right now who will be my puppy that is going to, that is already with cattle learning how to do all that shit. So he's going to come in. I'll show him the goats and say, hey, you got to protect these boys. He'll just nod at me and go about his business. Give him a treat once in a while. Just let him know. Like, hey, you're being a really good boy. Yeah.

Hey, I won't you know they have died? Good job. But I'm fired up, dude. Apparently they take down bobcats that I've heard about them scaring away bears. He's going to be pissed that the other dogs have to live in the house. He's going to want to know what the fuck's going on with that.

They don't know. They don't know because when he sees me I'm going to be so proud of him, he'll think, man, it'd be awesome living in that house with that guy. But my other dogs, besides Akira, the oldest dog,

they catch hell for me. I get so frustrated so easily with them. Yeah. I pissed me off. Yeah. Oh boy, I assume he won't have to wear the deal. He won't have to wear the collar.

Yeah. Hey, get back coach. Yeah. Yeah, that is a get back coach. Yeah, that's a get back coach. Look at this fucker. Yeah, that thing will be cool. You get to sleep well at night.

Good luck. So you want a phrase as a name. I think that's solid. A phrase or a name. Yeah, something that I kind of like Harvey Den. That was a fire name. But this dog's all white, which pisses me off. I don't want a white dog.

Leonidas, like the movie 300. Yeah. That would be it. Maximus. Yeah. Hell yeah, dude. That's a stoic. Look at this fucking guy.

Are you kidding me? There was another dog that we looked into as well, but the minute I looked it up, it was like, not good with kids. I was like, okay, we're done with him. But apparently these Great Pyrenees boys, they fucking rip, and they will tear shit up. But I wanted to get a donkey. Why a donkey? Because donkeys are, they basically do the same thing as dogs.

They'll protect cattle or a herd of sheep. Probably not as quick or as agile. They're mean bastards, dude. Donkey, stubborn as a mule. You ever heard that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm saying, like, you're getting this, this Great Pyrenees, like, he's probably a lot more agile. can get the job down quicker, you know what I mean?

Get down, get moving around. I wonder what it's like when like 15 years ago down the road and he's on his last leg, like, what do you do? Like, you gotta give him like a a military kind of funeral, right? Fold up the flag. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Punching his collar onto the casket.

Yeah, fire one off. Just shoot off into the distance and some random neighborhood that I live in. It's going to have to. Hey, all to say, like, you're building a little farm. Like, you're a cowboy. I am a cowboy. You know, not like, like, like. Not like nothing, dude.

dumb fucking cowboy. You're right. There's just different kinds of cowboys. There's like them South Cowboys. There's the Montana Cowboys. Those are them boys that are riding them horses like her and the cattle every day. They got to get somewhere and the only way to get there is on the horse. Yeah. And they're sleeping like on the ground and shit.

Yeah, I ain't sleep on the ground. No. Yeah. This whole Yellowstone thing's really misconstrue but a real cowboy is. I'm a real cowboy. All right? Oh, the Yellowstone's misconstrued it. Yeah.

I got you. Yeah, I'm living. I'm a hobby cowboy. I have a hobby farm and I'm a hobby cowboy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crops, too, if you all are wondering. And the clothes. And I got bees.

You're going to get the clothes. I'm going to get the clothes. I'm going to be a Wrangler guy real soon. I'm going to be tucking in my shirts real soon. And it's not going to be like a quiet transition. It'll be abrupt. It'll be a quick one. Andy, we guys are like, I guess this is just Taylor now.

A fashion cowboy. Yeah. No, yeah. Yeah. Isn't that a saying? Like, isn't that a thing? Like, I'm going to go to real cowboy. I'm going to go to real cowboy shit.

Mitch is like, no. I'm going to go to real cowboy shit. I'm going to go to like real rodeos. and people are looking at me and be like, what is this fucking, what's this Joker up to right here? He ain't no cowboy, and I'm going to walk around like I fucking own the place. That's what I'm going to do. Confidence is going to be on 10 because I know I look fantastic, dude.

Big ass cowboy. And that's, Mitch brought up a good point. He said, big ass cowboy. The thing that's taking me aware from wearing boots for so long is I'm 6'7. And that's just a lot of, that's a lot of human being. You had them little stilettos on me, brother. I'm 6'9. And 6'7 is already like giraffe height.

Like we're already looking like, hey, you're too tall kind of guy. Like, you distract him. I'll all call the zoo so we can get them back in his pen height. And I don't really want to add to that. I don't think it's that high. Those Tacomas right there, them are nice, the way they're just like a little inch. But I do think, hey, brother, we got to get you some pythons or some gator skins. Yeah, I mean, it's my first pair of boots.

Some rattlesnakes. What size are you? 12. birthday's coming up, September 19. 11. I'm probably 11.5. I'm being honest with myself. Well, let's go to, what do you got going on today? Stuff. Not that much stuff. Not that much stuff.

Listen, I'm not going to go shopping today. We're not going to go get fitted. Let's just go get fitted for boots at Lucchese. You know what I know. You know what my boot. I just told you what it is. You got to go and they have to fucking do the thing on your foot and they have to feel it. They have to see how wide it is and all this different shit. If your feet or anything like your ass, you're going to have a wide-ass foot. And I'm not to get you a slender. I'm going to get you a slender boot. them boys right there.

I don't like the black tops there. I love the black tops, dude. With those snake skins. I love those black tops. You get some Western Diamondback Rattlesnake boys on those feet.

Them things are moving now. Oh, you! Those are good looking. You see yourself in a pair of those? 260, Jesus. Taste man. You know what I did with my first paycheck when I got my first practice squad paycheck

and I saw this is all coming because we'll saw a pair of boots for $250. folks. Yeah, well, my first, my first big purchase was like, got me some air maxes. You know, your mom and your mom, and I was going to say mom and dad, my dad never took me shoe shopping. But you know, when your mom takes shoe shopping, you put the shoes on, you're running down the aisles and say, oh, let me get these. Like, all these are a little priceless. The reason we're shopping

at priceless, you know what I'm saying? Yes. So your boy brought some air maxes. So anytime I see shoes that are, you know, 260, I'm kind of like, Jesus. But I do, I do get that it's like, you know, they got the skins. I think these are like goat skin. or something. Yeah, those are cool. Yeah, those are awesome. But you, but I'm just saying these are goat skin. I wasn't being like, I wasn't like, you know.

You weren't trashing your shoes. Yeah, yeah, no. I think you're sick. You were just, yeah, those are nice. Those are good looking boots. I get that there's, like, quality that goes into the boot that makes in that price is what I was, what I meant by that. Yeah. Like, you got the ostrich, you got the goat.

You got the, you know. Python. Yeah. Yeah. The gaiters. You got the Kaman. Gator. You got fucking rattlesnake.

Yeah. You got an elephant. Don't get the elephant. elephant folks. All right. There's poachers out there. That shit seems a little unethical to me. I'm just going to say that a lot of pythons, though, kill them all. All those fucking snakes out there, they can go to hell. Makes are scary. And the Bible, serpents are reflected up the devil, right? We should kill all the snakes. That's all I'm saying. That's my biggest fear. By far. To our Christian audience. We have a Christian audience, don't we? Yeah, it's you were speaking to.

Like in the Bible. Yeah, absolutely. Because I read. Yeah. I don't know if you knew that. But yeah, we got to get you fitted right after this. Get you fitted. It's all you 15 minutes. We'll go to look hazy. There's stuff to be fed. I'm not shopping. I'm not going to. What do you mean? What do you got to do there's stuff to do?

There's stuff to do. There's things to be done and there's stuff to do. Give me one thing. I'll leave it alone. Stuff to do with Bussing. I'm a part of that. Yeah, I get it. You go and do the fitted stuff.

All right. What else is on the docket will? There's stuff on the docket. I don't know. No, I'm saying on the pot. We're done with that. We're on the intro now. I don't want to go shopping for boots today.

Okay. I respect that. Why not? I just have stuff to do. Got you. That's good enough. Right. That's good enough.

That's all you had to say. Yeah. That is what I said. I'm not sure why you're getting upset. You're acting real sensitive right now. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on.

That is what I said. All right. Is that what you said? Yeah, you go, oh, why not? Give me one thing. Give me one thing and I'll leave it alone. Why not? Why not?

Well, you say I got stuff to do. We're good enough friends where I can figure out. I can know what your schedule is. I can know what you're doing. I'm part of most of your schedule during the week. I'm part of most of it. Listen, if you want to be like that, that's fine, brother. If you're going to get all worked up over going to get fitted,

15 minutes for shoes, all good. I'll move away from that right now. Yeah. We're solid. So we're going to, we got Texas this week. If you're still watching right now, you can still buy tickets because the boys are showing up tomorrow. That show is at what time? 7 o'clock.

7 o'clock? That's at 7 o'clock, yes. I did notice how Bryn, no, I don't want to throw Bryn under the bus, but I did see that there's 7 to 830. I think we're a one-hour show, folks. We are a one-hour show. We might run over, but we don't want to put the expectation of 90 minutes. You know what I mean?

The key to happiness in life is. Low expectations. That is correct. Low expectations. We are an hour show that likes to go over for the boys. The VPs or VIPs sold out. So shout out you guys, those fucking tier ones out there. Yeah.

A lot of that. General at Mish, I believe there's like, what, 30 to 40 of them biscuits left? Something like that. Something like that. Sorry. You know, we're trying to, you know, something like that. Next week we go to Ohio State. And matter of fact, I have a miss call from Coach Hartline. I'm not trying to duck the boy.

I'm not trying to duck you, coach to get set up for Ohio State. And then we go to LSU. And then Colorado, all tickets are up now. And in Colorado, we are doing our show in Denver. We have not. I don't think we've posted about our show being up in Denver yet. However, we've sold, we've already sold some ticks. Tickies. Yeah, some tickies. So that show will be in Denver. Now, don't forget about LSU now because I saw on a little sheet we had the LSU. People don't really know we're going there because the tickets haven't really been selling like that. Really? Yeah. I'll pull it up right now, but we're going to LSU. We're going to Baton Rouge, Louisiana. We'll be at Fred's Bar. We'll be at LSU. So again, if you're listening right now and you're in Texas, we will be in Austin tomorrow. Right.

next Wednesday we will be at Ohio State. The next Wednesday we will be at LSU, Fred's Bar to be exact. The next Wednesday we will be at Colorado doing a little deal at the university with Coach Prime. And then we'll be doing our live show in Denver. In Denver, Colorado. Now a little backstory on Fred's. I went down to old Baton Rouge when I was in college. I was dating a girl down there, cruised on, waited in the line, sat there,

got up to the mussely security guard, and he says, sir, you can't come in. Excuse me? It was, yeah, you're not a lot in here. And I was like, why? Thought to myself, man, I must be really making waves of people at LSU don't like me. Turns out I wasn't allowed to be wearing a plain color t-shirt

and tattoos you could see. Or earrings. You had earrings in, too? I had gauges back then. What are gauges? The circles that get bigger. Like there's the earring. Yeah.

And then there's the one that people like space. out their earlobe. So where you had a circle like in the... I could fit a pencil through my earloat. At the time. At the time. Oh, those? Yeah, but that's a little, that's a little aggressive.

Is that what you were like kind of wanting to work to? No. No. I just liked the little, I like the little space. See if you can pull that, ah, you probably wouldn't be able to pull it up. They never really worked out for me because at Michigan, they had these stupid rules where you had to like,

when you're in the building, no earrings when you're in the building and all this stuff. And so I had to take them out when I first got them in, they were just shrink and I have to like force fuck those things back into my earlood. and it was painful every single time. That's what you were going for? Yeah, that's what I was going for right there. Doesn't like a 12. We cannot let you in this bar.

I'm like, why not? With a fucking 12 ounce beer in my earlobe. But yeah, so a full circle moment for me going to Freds, that'll be really cool. But Austin, Texas. You're fired up. Are we trying to hit the mothership? Yeah, I thought that's where we were going.

You thought we were performing at the mothership? In Austin, Texas, as I was told, we were performing our show and then right after our show was Joe Rogan's show but it looks like Joe Rogan's gonna be at the mothership I think because the mothership just opened

I guess Rogan will not be at Vulcan now. That's totally fine that's totally fine I did see I sent you that video with a Burry yesterday yeah yeah showing the bar

was more about the voiceover because I thought the voiceover fired me to fuck up yes absolutely but also that comedy show that spot and that's Rogan's isn't it yeah

just opened I think like last week or a couple weeks ago maybe I was surfing down the motherships up page a little bit. They've already got like 359,000 followers. Like 10 posts.

Yeah, for real. And on it, like they've like poached, not post, that's a bad word to say, but they have gotten people from like the comedy store, which is widely known as like the best comedy,

like, station to go to. And they've gotten a bunch of people from there and taking people all over the country and put basically the best people at the mothership. Bro, if we were performing at the mothership, that's,

That would have been sick. That would have been sick, dude. That'd have been awesome. One day. One day, no doubt. One day. And I think, you know what? The only thing that this live show gave me in South Carolina was we got something special.

Yeah, I think we could really dial in some things. I think if this tour keeps going the way that first one went, we could be looking at a lot more live shows throughout the year just to go do live shows. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, that would be a whole lot of fun. but I'll tell you what you need when you have live shows, boys, and buckle up because here comes another one right here. Throw me one. You're going to need a proper wild.

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It's like you said, clean ingredients, no nonsense. This will keep you charged up throughout the entire day. This week I was feeling a little down, especially on Friday. Wednesday was sinking in on me, especially. Wednesday, or Thursday was hurting me. From our night Wednesday, we come into Thursday, we fly back. I was low-keyed a little bit of a zombie on Thursday. I was not doing well.

Friday, kind of seeped into my sleep on Friday. I woke up, that's a little groggy. But your boy threw in a proper wild shot, and I'm telling you, it truly lifts the vibe. I love that, dude. In a nice way. In a nice way, you know how you can hit the other stuff out there. I won't say it because this is for proper wild, but you can crash.

And I don't feel that way with ProperWild. You can crash easily in a hurry, dude. And that apple is banger. I don't know how I've missed that one the whole time. How many milligrams of caffeine are that little shot, Willie? I believe there's some that are 100. I want to say the mango is 100 because that's what I have at the house. And then these right here on the box, I see there's 120.

Like in this little mix pop me one of those. I might as well have one too. And for those who also want to pop one, dude, go to properwild. dot com forward slash bussen to try proper wild for bar stool. Jesus Christ. It's all right. Hang in there. And for those of you who want to try proper while, go to proper wild.com forward slash barstool to try proper wild for 20% off. 30% off. No, it's not.

30. Yeah, 30%. And for those of you who want to try proper wild, go to proper wild.com forward slash barstool to try proper while for 30% off. First take. First take Taylor. That's what they call me. boys, that's what they call me. I will have one of these. Try that apple. Fresh. Yeah. Like you're at an orchard. Organic. No artifactual sweeteners.

Is that artificial? Artificial. What's artifactual mean? Like an artifact. Right. Old relics. You don't want old relics in your fucking drink either, do you? Yeah, that is. No artifactual or artificial sweeteners in your drink. It's proper while. It's artifact free, boys. This is artifact free. Also, proper while. I might want to send another check, boys. We just said a 25. I'm at-read for you guys of all time.

Shit's fire, though. Overperform. You get over-performed for the boys. I love you, shit, dude. I'm already leveling up right now. My cognitive function's gotten a little bit better. My ADHD is out the door. Out the door.

When do you have caffeine in the morning? Is it right when you wake up or do you wait that hour and 30? It depends. It depends if I've been sucking on too much caffeine throughout the week. Because sometimes I get to where I love the taste of coffee. Yeah, you do. So I do decath throughout the day. So it really just depends.

Like this morning I did half and half. I had that ready. Yeah. And then just threw it. that point. It would be interesting. I hit the button. I turn it on while I'm making breakfast. Got you. Three eggs. Yeah. Three eggs and a piece of toast. Yeah. Three toast? You go a whole wheat on them boys. I do the, uh, the Dave's Killer Bread. The Power Seed. It has protein in it? Yeah. You need to check out the Franklin Factory on Saturday's, brother. They have people that make some fire bread.

Yeah. Especially like the ones who can make the sourdough loaves. Yes. Yes. Holy shit. Yes. Will and I like to think of ourselves as pseudo-biohackers. And I was reading about caffeine. And apparently you have to wait. You should allow yourself an hour and a half after waking up to feel the actual groginess so your body can regulate and send chemicals in a certain direction. What is it like? You wake up, you probably want to get light.

I'm going to get sunlight. Yeah. You want to get sunlight. You want to drink water immediately, possibly water with some lemon in it because that'll help your digestive system. Yeah. It's at Himalayan sea salt. Oh, is that what that is? The Himalayan Seasol. Yeah, yeah. Brother, you are good at that. The athletic greens, the Himalayan sea salt,

Lemon. Don't see Athletic Greens. Yeah, I'm a, yeah, I'm a big fan. Every day. Yeah, every day. I'm a big fan of the boys from Athletic Greens. Yeah, the first time I got Athletic Greens, I did it for like two weeks. And then I realized, I looked at the package and says, please refrigerate. It's been sitting in my pantry. I was like, I can't be good. Refragrate the powder? Yeah. I didn't know that. It just sits in my pantry.

No, there we go. If shit's come out nice, though, bro. I'm telling you. You hit a, you hit a little consistency on the athletic greens. Like, you, you're shitting well. You were shitting. You were shitting. well. Yeah. What are the things as we get into this live show spring football tour that you are most excited about for Austin, Texas? Because honestly, when I was in high school, Austin, Texas, the Longhorns was like one of my top three schools I wanted to go to. And it obviously didn't work out that way. I feel like if I could get anything off my chest, is that the Big 12, 2009, Big 12 was stolen from us. You're kind of going to war a little bit. Yeah, maybe. I think

we'll have some Nebraska fans showing up. You know what I mean? I think we will too. Create a little chaos. Nebraska fans really roll deep. Anytime Will and I get on a plane or get off a plane, I always see the bones being thrown up. Yeah. Yeah, bro. Nebraska rolls fucking extremely deep. Like a cult.

Yeah. And if anybody knows Matthew McConaughey, we would really like to do a podcast with him. That would be ideal. Yeah? Yeah. Because I'm here. We don't get to do any players while we're there.

Why? Just I think that's the deal in Texas. Do we do coaches? Yeah, I think we're sitting down with Coach Sark. And we are, we are we get the exclusive you know what I mean like we're getting we're getting some good inside and sorry because he doesn't sit down with everybody that's awesome man the respect of busting dude it's growing it's growing a little bit yeah step at a time what are you most excited about going

into you know I'm just excited to see what that burnt orange and white really has to offer I want to see those facilities I want to walk down I want to walk on the turf see where guys like colt mccoy the legends walk through as I was in high school watching the watching highlight videos watching guys like Michael Griffin fucking lay the boom and they had this fucking 2006-2007 fucking highlight film and it was like

I'm pretty sure Brian Orakpo was in it I'm pretty sure Michael Griffin was in it and it was like the here comes the here comes the and dude I would watch that in high school getting fired the fuck up so I'm kind of stoked just to see it

I've been in Austin one time it was for a bachelor party wasn't impressed I'm just saying that so my expectations are very low hopefully my socks were blown off. But I went there, a lot of homeless. There were a lot of homeless people out there.

A lot of homeless people. A lot of homeless people. A lot of homeless people. And I saw that. But the issue is, like we see all the time, my expectations were high because when I was going to Austin, like a month before, I would tell people, hey, what do you do?

I'm going to Austin for a bachelor party. It was Chris Brown's bachelor party, not the singer, the hockey player. And people are like, if you like Austin, or sorry, if you like Nashville, you're going to love Austin. So I already walked in there with an expectation of being Nashville on steroids.

I didn't get that vibe. I was only there for 48 hours in and out as they go. Get in, get off, get out. That type of mentality. So I'm excited to really settling in and seeing what's going on. I will be there for 24 hours this time. But I'm going to soak in every bit in 24 hours. Yeah.

My best part was at Austin. It was not at Austin. It was at a lake outside of Austin. Right, but we went out in Austin. I'm sure it was a fun time, too. Do you want to do this? No, I was just saying mine was in Austin. I liked Austin.

I'm not where your head's at. I'm going to throw you that bachelor party. I'm going to throw you that bachelor's. Don't you worry. You're just throwing me a celebration. It's not the bad. You missed the bachelor party. I'm throwing you a bachelor party.

I mean, you know. You got to renew your vows eventually. Why not year two? Just, uh, what, like a 10 year redo the vows by before we redo these vows,

we're going to go on another bachelor part. Right. But we'll do it. Renew the vows two years in. You want, oh, you want a two year anniversary. We just go on a dude's trip,

man. We could go on a guy's trip. I tried to go on a dude's trip with you to Cabo. It was more of a couple's trip I was sick the whole time Yeah I just don't do right by you When it comes to trips You do not perform well

No I fucking don't do You do not perform well in these trips I'm a piece of shit I'm sorry We can we can set up a guy's trip We set up a guy's trip We can pick wherever We can collaborate on where we go

If you want to go If you're gonna Where do we want to go Yeah I'm saying we can collaborate On where we're gonna go Versus like make it about me And be like You know hey this is your fucking bachelor party

Yeah Because I do think about where I would take you If it was all about you I'm thinking Lake Havasu Would be that That is south of Las Vegas Near the Arizona border And that is where girls gone wild started

But it's also like a big party Like people do the redneck yacht clubs They tie their boats together It's a fucking blast It's a fun time people in Arizona Go up there all the time Everyone's talking about it I've never been

But I know big lake boy Yeah I was going to say We can hit Lake of the Ozarks Get dirty down there in the Missouri Yeah Dirty dogs That dirty water down there. Yeah.

There it is right there. Have a Sue. Hey, and you brought up Girls Gone Wild, like, can we have a moment of silence for Girls Gone Wild? Especially the commercials on Comedy Central when we were a kid. Man, you always hope to get one off before that commercial runs out. No. I mean, it was always like a game. Yeah, dude, you're out there fucking beating that thing.

And all of a sudden, infomercial come on for like some sort of like, I'm going to wipe away. This is the channel where you get the commercial and just wait for it. Just fucking wait for it. Yeah. Peace in hand. On previous. Yeah. Getting ready to go.

You had previous. me talking about the... Just the remote. If your parents walk in, you hurry up in previous back on ESPN. Yes, dude. That was a big deal.

I remember me and the boys in like elementary school, we'd have sleepovers and we like go to on the cable channels and get into the 90s when I got all fuzzy. But brother, if you got like 94, 96, because they would jump,

it wouldn't just go like by the numerical order. Yeah. You'd jump in there. And every once in a while that fuzz would go away and a tit would pop out. You boy see that right there? We're living right now.

Think about four, eight-year-old dudes just right right close to a TV it was it was something special it's got it easy these days man you just go to

you got all these websites now like we had to get it we had to and even our fathers before us had to get it even crazier but us we're trying to get it

to commercials music videos magazines the music videos with hard posters posters like in your room that you pin up

yeah yeah I remember like kissing the poison ivy poster on Batman remember I was telling you about that yeah yeah come here

poison ivy. Dude, I used to have a it was a tailgate of a truck with four girls in there wearing booty shorts and I would just look at it. I would just laying back of my bad door completely unlocked, like not worried about anything. Give it hell three times a day. That was back when you could put in serious work. Yeah. People don't understand, dude.

You don't got a lot of time to do those kinds of things for yourself as you get older. Well, not only that, but you had the stamina then. Like I remember we'd travel back from baseball tournaments and I'd turn on the shower. You know, you feel like your parents don't know what you're doing in the shower. Who doesn't take a 20 minute shot? Yeah, I'd be able to pull off about, I want to say my best was like a four rounds. Yeah, man.

Are you really like that? Back then, not now. No. Not now, no. No. How's the reboot time now? The reboot time now, it just. You need a couple hours at least.

Well, I'm saying like 20 or 30 minutes, I'd say. Oh. But that's if you're in the mood. You know beforehand, you're thinking like, oh, it's going to be, I'm about to put in rounds. I'm about to put in work on no girls. But then that post-not clarity comes and you're like, okay. I am pretty tired. What am I?

Yeah, what was I? I am pretty sleepy right now. Yeah. Gar-all-in, sweet-art. Like, let's just get the music, get the light. Throw on the fucking, throw on my, uh, what are they called? I don't know. Yeah, my face mask.

So on a face mask. You put a face mask on a night? Tate my mouth. Oh, face mask and tape my mouth. What tape do you just use regular scotch tape? Yeah, the, uh, the one-inch microtate, that little white tape. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I use.

You really tape your mouth at night. night. I just ordered some tape to do that. Yeah, it's nice. You'll see a difference. I don't know if you're like, do you know if you have some sleep apnea or you're a mouth breather? Every day I wake up with a dry-ass mouth, so I'm assuming. Yeah. You know. And you got that, it's not like you have the strong.

That's usually a tell sign of it too. Yeah. A recessive chin. Anytime your chin goes right to your throat, usually see people your mouth open, boys. Your chin is descending to your Adams up. These guys fucking right now listening to this going, damn it, dude. I got that Lawan chin, bro. Looking in the mirror and looking sideways.

I know. Yeah, fuck, dude. Sometimes the boys catch photos and I'm just like, talk it. It's fucking just, my chin's just going straight down on my collarbone. It's like, fuck, dude. But yeah, maybe I'll tape that thing.

Maybe I'll see a big change. Maybe, who knows? You might. Yeah. That's what that, like, and I only know that because there's this book called Oxygen Advantage, Bro. And it talks all about it.

It talks all about your breath, work, sleeping. Like people back in the day, like mothers would like close their babies like mouth so they could learn a nasal breathe that helps develop a better jaw. It's fucking wild. Dude, I, uh,

I've learned more about that knowing like nasal breathing is a move. Like, uh, someone's like, breathing, your mouth is for breathing, your mouth is for eating. That's it.

Like, that's how it should be. Mm-hmm. And, like, Willow, she's out there mouth breathing all the time, bro. I'm like,

hey, I literally, we'll be sitting there. She'll be watching TV. I'm like, Willow. Yeah? I'm like, breathe to your nose, honey.

And she's too. Already fucking trapping. I don't want her to have my issues. So I'm like, breathe through your nose, honey. And she'll just kind of look at me because she's two. I'll go, do this. And then she'll do it. And then three minutes later, bro, we're back.

What's wild is like, you know, when you start like assessing yourself throughout the day, you don't realize how much you actually fucking mouth breathe. Yeah. Like driving in the car or everything. You'll just catch yourself shallow breathing, mouth open. Yeah. Like when I'm listening. Brother, but you're like.

Yeah. You, you're a. mouth breather. But you got a strong chin. Yeah, I don't know, man. That's genetics. That's the tip of the cat, the old mom and dad, dude, for the jaw. Who had a stronger chin, your mom or your dad? I would say, what a dumb intro. Man, that could be taken out of context. Bad, bro. Why? Stronger jaw, like better jaw. I mean, probably your mom. I think it's my mom. I mean, the way you're talking. For sure, your mom. Now that we had that little, man, what a stupid intro. And I'm sitting here thinking.

about it more. I'm like, oh, man, it's so bad if I say, say my mom or IP, but I would say her. I say she probably had the better one. More developed. More developed. What do you think that's from? I don't know. I think strong jeans, man. Oh, dude. Let's talk about Philo TV, man. This broadcast is brought to you by Philo. TV, dude. This is number three. After this, we're past the halfway point. Yeah, so yeah. If you're sitting here, you're laughing with the boys. If you came for nickelback going to be this is an incredible episode you came for nickelback you've already skipped all this nonsense right but if you came to listen to the boys rant a little bit banter you already knew you guys were in for what three ad reads in the intro yeah this would be our third one you're

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Yeah, Philo's going to rip, dude. Because even these streaming services, they're starting to fucking get you. I was putting together a little Google sheet dashboard on all of our budgeting expenses, and I was adding up all of the streaming yesterday. And I was like, low-key, like, we streaming got us to go to streaming because it was cheaper than cable television. All these packages that are out there with the phone and the internet and the TV shit. And you're paying like, you know, around 100, 120 a month.

You get all these streaming services. All of it, right? You get the little, first of all, you get the little streaming device, and then you start buying all the fucking channels or brands that you want to add on. you're starting to pay more now. And I'm starting to get emails. Like, hey, you're in a couple months. We're going to start

upping your price. We're going to start upping your price now to fucking X amount of dollars. I'm not going to say any names because no free shoutouts. But you guys know what I'm fucking talking about. I don't think that would be considered a shout-up, but I get what you're saying.

You also don't want to soil the boys. Yeah, yeah. Because we're for the boys. Because we're for the boys. And we're high vibes. They're fucking getting, they're getting over you now. And I'm starting to notice.

Snakes are starting to be shown. You cut the fucking grass, dude. So you can find. the snakes. Philo, Philo's getting it, though, dude, because they're bringing cable.

Cable is officially going to be a shout-out, no free shout out someday. Like, hey, you guys remember cable? Remember just getting on cable television doing that? Like, that's where we're headed.

Cable's dead. I'm getting rid of cable. I'm over it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You literally just get that little Apple TV deal. Shout out Apple for just having like a fucking conglomerative shit going on.

You get the Apple TV. You get all the apps down. You get the Filo TV on the Apple TV. Now you're living the dream. Yeah, cable, you got everything. Yeah. Fucking. good for you, Philo.

Good for you. Should we talk about Nickelback now, folks? Oh, boss? Nickelback? You want to talk about Spencer Lee, Edel? Nickelback, the greatest band of all time? I just wanted that for the clip. Yeah, we can talk about Spencer Lee.

Probably the biggest upset in wrestling history. Are you familiar with Spencer Lee? I saw your tweet. So Spencer Lee, he came on the bus, our first collegiate athlete to come on the bus. What was that? This was during the season? This was during the season.

Not you. Dude is a fucking stud. Arguably, he's a Mount Rush, arguably a Mount Rushmore type college athlete to step on the mat. Really? Light. So those guys, I feel like if you're lighter,

you have more of a chance to win four in a row, you know, all them Natty's. But Spencer Lee, wrestler out of Iowa, the dude is a fucking stud. He was going for his fourth national title. So there's only been, help me out here. I think there's only four,

four timers in the history of wrestling. And he was going for, he was going to be the fifth. Wow. And he gets upset by getting pinned in the last few seconds against, man, I don't. A guy from Purdue, right? Yeah, the kid from Purdue, Ramos, I believe. Which is like, you know, he gets pinned.

He was going to lose anyway because he was getting, he was getting those fall points. What's the fall point mean? So he had him on his back, so they're counting. So no matter what, he's getting, he's getting three points, I believe. If I remember, I did see there were a couple new rules I was learning about while I was watching. But growing up in the fucking wrestling world, like he's sitting here, right? He's near falling him. I mean, if he gets the shoulders on his back, boom, pin, it's over. The match is over.

But right now the ref isn't counting anymore because he's already hit the metric for getting three points on the mat, like having him on his back. He counts one, two, and then you get two points, but once you pass three, you're going to get three points now for whenever he does get off of his back. Right. But if he gets both shoulders to the ground, pin, it's over. So the match was winding down here. He was going to lose anyway unless Spencer pulled something out of his ass.

but he ends up pinning one of the greatest wrestlers of all time to go to the finals. And this is like one of the biggest upsets in wrestling history, I think. I mean, that's without fucking actually doing my homework on it. A lot of homework on that. This is when he pins him? Yeah, pins him. His mom gets so fucking pissed off. I don't know if they're going to show it.

She breaks her glasses. She's hugging somebody screaming. Like, no! Takes off her glasses and just start crunching her fucking glasses. Pulls a frank tank on him. Yeah, it just starts breaking everything around her. Jesus. You know, her boy lost.

But Ramos, then he goes on to the finals And he lost in the finals He lost in the finals He lost in the finals Dude from Princeton ended up winning Here's his mom, check this out You're trying to think yo get off Oh man

Talk about living bicariously Through your child You're in it bro Yeah When you're in that wrestling culture man You are fucking like You know how you feel you're so You're probably watching Chandler fight

Like when we were in the bar That one time You're kind of like moving with the boy Yeah yeah When you're up there and you see like When Cody was wrestling Cody was the fucking man But you're literally

because Cody lost one year he ended up having what's the what's the throat sickness The kissing The kissy. Mono he ended up having mono But Cody lost to a freshman

After going undefeated throughout the year And lost to a freshman who was solid But Cody lost in the semis going to stay And when I tell you we were all so fucking mad That Cody lost bro No shit It was wild But it's like when you're in that wrestling world

In that wrestling community Like it's your fucking live and die watching these matches. The environment at a wrestling tournament is top notch, man. Like, literally next year, we should look to, like, go to this and see if we can do, like, vlogging or get in the wrestling culture. That'd be awesome. Because the culture is sick. Everybody's fucking

screaming, yelling. Like, everyone's around the mat. It's one-on-one, bro. And everyone's fucking watching you close up, intimate. And again, it's like wrestling culture. It's like cowboy culture. It's like all these cultures we talk about it where everyone's fucking die hard. It's, dude, it's exhilarating. And seeing Spencer Lurie's,

I was kind of, I was bummed because That was the boy. He came on the bus. But yeah, the boy got upset. That's a heartbreaker for him because it would have been sick to see him do for. And I didn't even know

he was even at the opportunity to become in that prestigious league of being on the Mount Rushmore and wrestling. Yeah, he would have been one of five. That is fucking wild. Oh, he'd have been the sixth? The sixth. Yanni.

Uh-huh. Yeah, Yanni. He's a guy from Cornell won his fourth this year as well. This year, okay. I know which guy you're talking about, too, because Cornell's a badass fucking team. He's a really like that.

that in Cornell? He's the second Cornell guy. He's the second Cornell guy to win four in a row. He got this cat. Oh, really? It's like that out there. Kyle Dake? Yeah. Kyle Dake, there's this cat, Kyle Dake at Cornell and he was a fucking animal, bro. I know he's in like the World Circuit and the Olympics. Kyle Dake, Pat Smith, Logan, Stiber, and Kale Sanderson. Yeah. And now. Cale Sanderson is the coach of Penn State. And Penn State is the number one school over Iowa, I would say now, to be like the number one wrestlers.

10th national title this year in 12 years. 10th national title 12 years. And their head coach, Kail Sanderson, who's one of the six now, do it. And Logan Stiber, he was in the same circuit as Cody in that group growing up. So we had saw Logan wrestling at these national tournaments when he's six years old, bro. The wrestling community is wild. The wrestling community is wild.

I would love to talk about. I'm excited to get into that because I know we're doing some martial arts soon. Yeah, yeah. Getting on the mat a little bit. I'm excited to get into that world. Yeah. And we should get fucking Jordan Burroughs on who's arguably the goat of it all. He wasn't a four-time, but he's like a, was he a two-time Olympic gold medal, Jordan Burroughs?

He's a Husker. He's a Husker. Oh, so he'll come on for sure. Yeah, yeah, I whipped his ass and mad on Thanksgiving one year and had that. I thought you're about to say wrestling. I was like that, boss. He really liked that. No, your boy was just a state qualifier in high school. Like, I'm not in the realm at all with these motherfuckers.

When you were in high school and you saw Cody doing so well, was there a level of jealousy you had? A little bit because Cody was the man. Cody was the man growing up. Like it was like it was around Cody's world growing up. And like football, like it's not, there's not this individual sport. Like Cody was a national champion. Cody was a senior national champion coming to high school. What is, then when you say national champion, stop yourself and say senior national champion.

What does that mean? Is there like other different levels? So Cody, when you win state, you qualify to go to senior nationals. So everybody that won state throughout the country can go participate in the senior nationals in high school. Even if you're not a senior. No, no, no. It's for it's just seniors. So there could be some prodigy as a sophomore.

He can't go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just trying to follow the bouncing ball. Yeah. And so he won senior nationals like after state that year. But growing up, Cody was like a triple crown winner, like a Cliff King kickoff triple crown order where you win nationals. And they have like three big national tournaments throughout the country.

If you win them all, that's like the Triple Crown or the Cliff King Triple Crown. Yeah. He'd win the triple crown in state. There'd be three big state tournaments that we would drive and travel to, stay in hotels. And he would win all the motherfuckers. The best I ever did in state was second. I never won state. So I would always get the silver medal.

Cody's trophy case growing up was immaculate. No shit. That was the, what's the, what's the movie with John C. Riley? He's like, I killed the wrong son. Oh, walk the line. Walk the line. Like Cody was the son growing up. The wrong son died.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like football, you get like Little League. There's like six games. And I also saw it a baseball team. Yeah, you get the participation trophy at the end. But wrestling is like all year round. And Cody, you know, it's a one, it's a solo sport. So you're like the fucking man.

Like kids would, our people would circle around the mat at finals just to watch these kids wrestle, just to watch these state champion like, oh, damn, you know, this kid named Bailey and Cody were facing off in the finals. And like, it felt like everybody was circled around that man. But it was like like that. Cody was like that growing up. And so, yeah, when I was like growing up, it was always like, it was always tough because I was never like the fucking man the way he was. Did it transition for you when you got a scholarship or like for football? or was it always like this is still Cody's show? No, no, I think like personally it just,

it did the whole like, you know, you're internalizing all and help validate more stuff for myself personally. Like, I think ultimately like being jealous of Cody's success and everything else, I wanted Cody to win. Like I'm sitting there screaming at the top of my lungs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's more of the parent love like dad. I always wanted to make my dad proud. And so it's like when he loves the sport of wrestling because it's like a combat sport. My dad was obsessed with wrestling. He loved football too. He loved that I was the dude in, fucking football. But it's like there's something about you're like winning. You're the gold medal.

You're at the top of the podium. But when I started getting scholarships and everything else, I think it just helped me more with like, just like, you know, self-confidence stuff. Not that I had a lack of, but it's just like, okay, now, now like, you know, the trophy room, stuff like that, you just have more stuff to hang your hat on because you're not seeing silver medals up there. You're like, oh, I'm getting scholarships to go play ball. And then Cody and I would get recruited together when I would visit Missouri, Iowa, Nebraska. When I went on those trips, Cody always came with me because they were recruiting Cody as well

because Cody was only a year behind me. Yeah. Yeah. God damn, that must have been awesome. Your dad, his pride back then, I'm sure he needed to be like, I, we fucking run. The Compton's run.

What school did you go to? North County. The Compton's run North County. My dad's super proud. You heard my dad talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I've been. For anybody who has not met Bill Compton,

like the classic, and I mean this is a positive, Bill, because I know you watch a podcast. Your classic dad that just showboats about his boys. Like literally, I sat with Bill one time. Literally, I think I tore my ACL.

I was like even before I got surgery. I'm like my leg is posted up. Like I literally, this is 2020. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to Will's house. Literally found out I tore my ACL and I went to your house after that. I didn't even go home. Yeah, drove with you and you're like, yeah, let's go hang in the house.

Let's go hang at the house for a little bit. I get in there and Bill starts talking about how, hey, Will really is a glue guy. Isn't it? I'm out here thinking myself. I fucking, my first injury I've ever had, ever had an injury of my life. that I fucking go through it. And Bill's like, hey, man, Will really is. He's a glue guy.

He's a guy you need in that lock for him, isn't he? Like, yeah. My dad was. He went 100% is, Bob, Bob Bill. He's one of them cats. He's one of them dads that, like, you read this stuff going on out there, and he was always really curious. On the message boards.

Yeah, always really curious. He always wanted to talk to me about it. My mom would always keep him at bay. Like, yo, leave him alone. Like, don't bring your own shit into him because your dad, you know, the old man, it's one of the, it's one of your dads, that is like he always wanted that validation. Like, hey, some of this stuff's being said, like, you know, what are your thoughts? And he was just like, dad, like, fucking leave that shit alone, man.

But he is super proud. And to go off that story, Will really was like the teenage, like, high school kid that was like, dad, stop. Dad, he doesn't need to know this stuff. Yeah. And then I think he even stood up, took a drink and goes, all right, I want to say one more thing. And then I'll be done.

And then I'll be done. Like, fucking dad, the love of God. It is so funny. Because as a friend, like you said there, you don't care, but you just see Will immensely going through it. Like, fuck, dude, you're embarrassed. Like, legit, Will was getting embarrassed. Yeah.

Getting embarrassed by Bill. We're like 28, 28, 30-year-olds fucking just got done playing a game. Yeah. And my dad's talking to us. Like, we're all in high school fucking sitting on a couch like, Dad, for the love of God. You got a real future ahead of you kid. I'm telling you, keep it up the way you're going right now.

You're going to be all right. You're going to be just fine, dude. Say you look, good smart football player right there. That's a little cocked. Smart speed. Smart speed. Smart speed. Smart speed.

I mean, I saw him out there today. You saw him on pump and cook. He can actually fucking go. You, uh, yeah. Bill's the fucking best, man. Man. I think they're looking at you for a role. And Cody got, he had concussions, right?

That's why he had to stop doing it. Yeah, he ended up going to Nebraska because of you. Yeah, and he got, uh, he had a concussion where he was basically blacked out for like 30 seconds. And it was the second one in like one month span. Oof. And so when he talks to the dog, it was basically like, hey, it's, you know, your, uh, your probability of getting more of these is,

escalated very high. So he had to stop wrestling. So there's always some left in the basement for Cody. Because I know Cody wanted to know, like, he wanted to be a guy that's like chasing a national title. Like, be at one of those events and be fucking yelling for the boy to, like, win a national title. Like, that's like the, that's the one shitty part about that whole thing.

Do I see, he was already at Nebraska when it happened, right? Yeah, yeah. He was going on his second year. Like he was honored a scholarship? Um, yeah, I believe so. Yeah. Hell yes. Like wrestling looks at Mitch.

Right, Mitch? wrestling? Well, I'm just kind of thinking, like, as I look around. Yeah, because Title IX, did they give wrestlers full-time scholarship? They're all partials. They're all partials. Yeah. So when Cody first got there, Cody was in Jordan Burroughs' weight class. So they were partners together. So Cody, of course, was registering because Jordan Burroughs is like the fucking goat.

What did say, seven gold medals? Seven gold medals and two national titles, Olympics. Did he? Jordan Burroughs did? He beat Chandler? But Burroughs was like double legs. I'm talking. Type in Jordan Burroughs highlights. Like, that shit'll get you fucking rolling. See, here's the issue with me, why?

Watching highlights is like when I really enjoyed sitting with you right now, while you're walking me through why Buddy got beat. Like, to me, I enjoyed that because when I watched wrestling, the ref might be giving points and stuff, and I don't know the reason why. Like, I am as green as it comes when it comes to watching wrestling. Or UFC for that matter, like, I watched the fight this weekend. It was awesome.

I can't believe Ustman, like, didn't seem like he came out to play like that. I know. He seemed sluggish throwing him shots, too. Like, he seemed a little slow. he took that last loss and he was like built it up so much and when he got there his tank was just a little empty. Somebody said something like it's always

you're always at this certain peak but once you get knocked out it kind of changes the way you approach the octagon. I'm not saying that's what happened but Usman hadn't been knocked out up to that point. In the last fight, Usman, what is the guy's name he fought? I'm so sorry. Leon Edwards. He was beating Leon's ass for all five of those rounds

until like what the last minute and a half and then just catches a, catches an elbow or catches a kick? It catches a leg kick gets knocked out and it's over just like that. And I thought for sure Usman was coming. I even tweeted. I said he's coming for vengeance. And I thought he won that fight.

From the get-go, I was like, man, this, Leon, Leon Edwards, he seemed smooth. Like, he was, like, comfortable. Like, this is where I'm supposed to be. Yeah. And Usman seemed like, I know I'm supposed to be here, but I don't want to act right now.

Like, he was up to top of too long. Yeah, like he seemed like he was the aggressor. But here's Jordan Burroughs just fucking The title of video is three minutes of Jordan Burroughs ragdalling more Olympians than Zeus Bro he's like Jordan Burroughs is him bro

Now what is the circle for Is that like a sumo wrestling thing You get him out the circle You gotta get back in When you push your opponent out correct well Yeah there's there's different There's Greco There's motherfucker moving

Yeah there's Freestyle Greco and folk style wrestling So the one we were watching Of Spencer Lee he's in folk style But when you're doing the Olympics Oh shit When you're in the Olympics and everything else, that's more freestyling Greco.

You don't see as much folk style anymore. So a lot of throwing, a lot of like getting guy, you know, if you're like pushing him out of bounds. I'm not privy on all the rules because I grew up doing folk style. But, I mean, you watch Burroughs, man. Like he really is like his double leg is patented. I'm sure he's got the thing copyrighted. But he's a stud.

Did he ever lose? I mean, yeah, he's lost. He's definitely lost, but did he lose? Yeah, I'm sure he has. I'm sure he has in the Olympics. But I know when he was going and he was like, goaded throughout the Olympic run, worlds. Like he was winning worlds, the Olympics, everything.

Like they would end up doing like one-offs to where he would wrestle in the middle of Times Square. He'd wrestle in the middle of Times Square against like, maybe Kyle Dake, the dude from Cornell. But it's a cool world to be. And that's why I'm obsessed with brackets and things like that. Because you just grow up doing the whole bracket game. Who's the one seed?

Who's this seed? You hear people arguing in all those meetings. Who's going to be the one seed? No, my kid's this. My kid's that. But yeah, bro, this dude is fucking goaded. And I've been on him before. Astrin?

Yeah, he beats. I mean, look at it. Nine nothing. Yeah, and so, like. Kyle Dake, this is against Kyle Dake. And Kyle Dake's one of the four timers. And he's getting points right here. He's getting points.

He's getting points. Yeah, he's getting points. Man, that's fucking cool. So is there a certain amount of points you can go to in wrestling to where it's like, hey, hit 21 points that you're done? In freestyle, I'm not sure. It might be 70 and then that period, like that round stops. A freestyle I'm not as privy to, but folk style is called a tech.

It's 15 points. You get 15 points. You say it again, folk style. Folk style is what we were watching with Spencer Lee to where your top bottom, the whole game of wrestling. And then you say top bottom, it's not a gay thing. You're talking about... Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not a gay thing. I'm talking like, when the period's over and then we flip the coin in my ankle,

like say my ankle color green hits, I get to either defer to you, pick top bottom or neutral. So I can pick top or bottom. So you'll be on top and then you will be in all fours. If I'm really good at bottom, I know I'm going to escape or get a reversal on you. easy because you get a point for escape or reversal you get one point for escape if you get reversal you get behind them and control the hips you got that's two points if you if you're on top that's two points yeah I'm interested in getting to this yeah we should go to one and like we can just talk through because it's a fun sport to be involved in it's kind of it's

it's over now right like it's over right now yeah but when's the next big match or the big maybe we go to a high school nationals yeah we probably that'd be fun just to do right it's it's a fun sport I'm telling you bro and the parents and everybody in that in that culture I'm telling you, everyone lives in the wrestler. For real. Yeah, it's that life. Yeah, that fires me. I'm kind of bummed.

Like, I never even sniffed that world. Yeah. Never even fucking sniffed it. Oh, Mitch, you used the mic? Like, being a wrestler, like the life of having to cut weight and make you. It's the worst. Well, you remember Will talking about crying in the back because he had these protein shakes he could eat.

He was so hungry. I quit at sixth grade and I was so scared to walk and tell my dad that I didn't want to wrestle anymore. Yeah. My college roommate's little brother did it. And he would eat like a piece of lettuce. day because he couldn't eat anything because he had to make weight. No shit.

Yes. That's, but like my, yeah, my parents wouldn't let me eat badly if Cody was in the middle weight cutting. Like, hey, you can't do it in front of him. Like, it was. And then when I wrestled my junior year, uh, it was only because like I was either, I either had to wrestle or I was grounded throughout the entire winter because I told my mom I'd play baseball the spring before.

And that's why I wanted to start to just focusing on football and like training and stuff like that all year round. And, uh, since I didn't hold up to my word. She was like, you can either be grounded all winter or you wrestle. Your mom said that? Yeah, yeah, because they love wrestling. My dad, too, but my mom was the messenger about it. So then I wrestled.

But wrestling fucking sucks. Bro. But like, tell, going to live that life. Going to your parents to tell them you want to quit a sport is the scariest thing as a child. Yeah. I tried to quit football. Really? Yeah, my freshman year.

Of high school? High school. Yeah, I got a lot. I was, like, in a lot of trouble. Like, I had some legal stuff going on. And my dad's like, you got too much anger. you're playing football. So like July in Arizona, super fucking hot.

I go to like the August camp. Like when they start like getting into the wall on the shorts and stuff and they're putting us through drills like stations. Halfway through my dad sitting in the stands because Hardo, dad, right? Like he's fucking watching the boy. The boys in underwear fucking rip around.

I go up to my dad. Lily once he got a water break once in my house. I'm done. This is too much. My dad goes, all right. See the guy in the visor and it was the head coach Chad de Grenier. And he goes, go tell him you quit.

I'll be in the car. And I like, I couldn't do it. just the right move. Like it's like, hey, if you want to stop, you got to go do this yourself. Yeah, go do it yourself. But yeah, that was, I think that's the only time I try to quit a sport. And obviously, thank God it worked out. They got it didn't quit that day. Yeah, no shit. Could you imagine you fucking quit ball dude? Dude, quitting ball. And it was, yeah, that was like the hardest time. Because you want to quit so bad. Yeah, you want to stop. But you're also looking at your parents like they, they, you know they love this. Yeah. Dude, I wanted to quit after my first dual meet. I got.

beat by this kid from Pacific. And I got hit with three, three stalling calls for points. So that means I had a warning first and then three more stalling calls. What is a stalling call? I'm not moving. I'm not doing nothing. I'm mom to the, brother. I was so gassed. I was so gas. He was just leaning his way on top of me. And I just couldn't really move. I was so worn down. And so I'm getting hit for selling calls. I end up losing like nine to nothing or nine to one maybe. And I remember going and sitting on the bench and telling Jason and Cody, Jason, he went on scholarship to go. wrestle at Cornell and Cody you know BC and I'm like sitting next to him because I was basically forced into wrestling that year and I never went that I always tried finessing practice

because my partner was Jason the Cornell wrestler he would just dog me every day but I went and sat down on the bench afterwards I'm like yeah I'm fucking I'm fucking I don't want to do this like this fucking sucks I went home told my parents like I'm not fucking doing this and I like you have to do this and I ended up I said you have to do this I ended up gutting it out and ended up beating that kid from a no by the way full circle end up beating that kid from Pacific in districts because I got my shit together a little bit more because I was, and I was embarrassed. Yeah.

I was ashamed of the performance I had out there and I was embarrassed. So that's what made me, like, want to quit. But yeah, dude, like, going to that mental, like, yo, I suck at this. Like, I fucking, I hate this. Yeah. What am I fucking doing? All because you guys want me to fucking wrestle because I went back on my word.

But, yeah, bro, it was, there was some tough, there was some difficult times. There's just one kid I beat and then I lost to him a second time. I went up to the stands. My mom's like, don't talk to me. Oh, no shit. Yeah, yeah. She goes, you're going to be. She's like, if you're going to put a performance like that,

then not care after you lose. Like, I don't want to hear what you have to say about it. I'm like it. All right. Hey, that car ride home was tough, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was tough. Just the crackling of a potato chip bag while you're trying to eat? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because I go out there with a mindset on it, if the kid was good, and I'm like, in my head, I would already kind of defeat myself. I'm back, I'm going to try to hit this kid with an over under. And if I don't hit this over under on him, he's going to sink his hips and probably pin me. And so the overunder didn't work. and you let him pin you? Well, I didn't like let him, but I went to my back

and you're kind of like, you just get fucking pinned. What's an over under? Pull up an over under from your screen. An over under is like what Paul was working with us on at the UFC, at the UFC Performance Institute. We have an over on one arm and then an under on the other, and you're trying to hip them over. Oh.

So I'm trying to get leveraged to fucking hit him with an over under. Right. So that way you end up on top and can pin him and get the match over with. Yeah. So it's like pin or be pinned because it's a fucking grind out there in that. Really? I went against because I was a force. seed and district and went against the state number one guy right out of the gate in state.

Now, how did that work out? Wasn't there like a lower seat? Did it work out well? Yeah, so when you're in districts. So this is the over under right here. We can play this on our YouTube channel, right? Or are people who's going to watch me watch this? You throw up a gif, maybe over under throw or some shit. But this dude he was committed to Mizzou. I forget his name. And I had him, I think I pulled him in the first round. Or maybe I got to the second round. I can't remember. And I was like, yeah, pin or be pinned on this motherfucker, dude.

And it didn't work out. I was down in 30. Did he end up winning? Yeah, I got pinned in 30 seconds. No, did he end up winning the whole thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was going to Missouri. Like, he was the number one guy in the state.

Yeah, and Missouri is like... Missouri then was a good wrestling state. It's not anymore? I don't know. I haven't been in, like, that world. You know what I mean? Like, you would know about all the rankings. You know about all the families.

You know about high school ball. You know who's going to be on. You're very aware of who's who in the zoo in your state. You know who's going to be on Team Missouri to travel the national circuit. You know all that stuff. And again, it's like Logan Sieber. We were in, our Stiverber. We were like in around a lot of these families when you travel nationally.

And Cody was always him. Like, Cody was fucking him on the wrestling mat. That's fucking cool, man. Yeah. It was a fun world to be in. Do you think Cody could have won a national championship in college? I think so. He was going to be, he would have been an All-American for sure.

God, that's fucking rad. Yeah, he would have been an All-American for sure. At that level. It comes down to like, wrestling is a different fucking sport. One day, like, you'd come home. We'd live together and I'd be like, oh, what was your guys to work at today?

And they're like, oh, they drove us two miles outside of Lincoln. Dropped us off with a 45-pound plate and it was up to us to get it back to the facility. With the garbage bags around your body and shit like that, when you're cutting weight, you're doing all that stuff. Like, I'm talking, I've told you, like, close the bathroom, stuff the cracks of everything with towels. Yeah.

Turn on the hot shower if you didn't have access to a steam room. Jump roping, spitting. Doing absolutely everything to get in. Spitting? Yeah, just spit. Anything you come up? Just get fluid out of your system. That's dangerous shit.

I remember in high school watching the wrestling guys, they'd have like garbage bags, like holes cut, but then taped. So it would seal it. It'd be like a pseudo like sweatsuit. Yeah. Yeah.

It's nuts, man. That's crazy. It's nuts. But it's a rough life. It's a rough lifestyle. Like you live like this load of the ground for when you're doing it in high school three months of a year. Like those wrestlers,

you wrestle all year round. What are the main injuries in wrestling? I don't know. Like maybe knee. I had a kid I went to high school with. He was pretty good. He wrestled somebody. Slammed him down.

He bit a part of his tongue off. These dudes are savages, man. Because what's hard about wrestling, too, is just the monotony of every day. Because it's all drill work. Drill and going live and trying to be in live situations. But just imagine, like, you circle up, you see moves. You're trying to work on moves. But you're just, it's just repetition.

Fucking living this load of the ground, like working all these moves over and over and over. And then you got to go live. so you're like exerting all of your energy and this is every day. You know what I mean? It's not like a play at a time and you get the flow of practice like wrestling just and then you go and run.

Just fucking run bro. Forever. Yeah, like hey, run the halls of this high school. Like you just run the fucking halls. Brother. It's got to be one of the most exerting sports of all the sports. Yeah.

Other than like what cross-country running? And that shit's built for the sticks. Yeah. I've built for the, yeah. See what? Yeah. What is that runner's high? Like you just get in,

you're like three miles in, all of a sudden you don't even realize what's going on anymore. Yeah, yeah, like I'm good, bro. Bro. Like, I see people like, I feel like when you hit your 30s,

people just want to do 5Ks. They're like, I'm going to train for a 5K. I'm thinking to myself, why the fuck would you do that? Now, fast forward six months from now, I'm going to do a 5K. I'll probably fucking end up being one of those guys. But brother.

Just a little bit of that competitive edge. Like, it's like we're, we're, you know, not knowing your future, but myself fresh off of fucking competing at this level for eternity. It's like, I'll never fucking run, dude. Dude, I will- You saw your boy hitting the fucking elliptical. You've seen your boy hit the elliptical a few times. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm just trying to fucking get 20 minutes. Just trying to get 20 minutes. I don't know if you do this, but when we hit the elliptical together, I will see your pace. And I'm like, just try to do a little faster than that. It's always in you, dude. Once you compete at a certain level, unless you're just not a competitor and you just had that kind of athletic ability and then you were able to play.

You always are kind of competing. Like, I'll do these classes in the morning where it's like just fast-paced an hour workout. You get in, get-off, get out, what seems like the thing? This dude, Austin Rogers, the guy that built my fucking house, he is in there to fucking work and no one's going to out-work him.

Like, low-key, I'm like want to get, like, I want to get healthy faster just so I can try to beat him. But he's so fucking, he's strong and his endurance is crazy. And you know he's got to- ball at Tennessee. Yeah, you know he's got it.

He was a stud receiver, yeah, wasn't he, Jack? Linear speed type guy, not a big change of direction guy. Austin Rogers. I wouldn't say like a stud, but. All right. That's for Jack. He's an injection. Jack's going to give the objective fan take on it.

That's his take. Yeah. Overall, but obviously you earned a scholarship like you're a stud in a capacity. White receiver, so temperate expectations. He wasn't like him. But he's the boy, so stud. Yeah. But all to say, all to say is like, you know he's competitive

competitive as fuck, but sometimes your genes, injuries, whatever, everyone's got to retire at some point. Say after high school varsity, like some dudes just got a lot of dudes, 99% of guys got to retire. Bro, they still got that competitive bug and then maybe one day, like, they're working,

years go by and then they start getting into running a little bit. Somebody talks to men, like, I'm getting a little too fat. Like, let me start losing a little weight. You start seeing progress and, oh, there's this, there's these Spartan races, there's these 5Ks, you taste a little bit of that competitive edge

you once had and then all of a sudden you're addicted, you're into it. And it's a level playing. It's all relative. Like, everybody's ought to get better but you got that little, that little voice telling you like, yo, I want to compete with these motherfuckers. Do you remember sitting in the locker room towards the end of your football season? Like maybe the last game where you're in the playoffs and your coach is basically telling you guys, hey, we got to win this game. Otherwise, most of you, this would be the last football game you ever play. Yeah, man. You're sitting there. I mean, thankfully, I had a scholarship my senior year,

but I remember being like, freshman through junior being like, that's crazy. These boys are just done after this. Yeah. I didn't know anybody with a scholarship until I transferred schools. That's what I'm saying. It's just crazy, bro. How it just ends. And then the dudes, we all know those guys in high school that were just fucking yoked up.

And you're like always a little bit jealous of them. Yeah. Damn, man. He's just fucking rocked up like that. Slaying in high school. Then you see him like 10 years later. Like a 10-year reunion maybe you go to and they're kind of just fat. it just kind of kept fucking rolling.

Yeah. But it does take that little... Yeah, the competitive nature can get dormant after a while. But like once you start to feel that again, and like you're just... It's all about setting goals, dude, and being consistent.

Right. You can just be consistent on those goals. And you don't have to do... You don't have to go hard. You don't have to go fucking hard every single day, but just do a little incremental something. Yeah.

Like you say, like I just got to do some sort of exercise every single day. Yeah. Brother, you're going to start feeling it. If you see a little bit of progress, you just get that itch, man. Dude.

Get that it. And then that's why you see everybody doing it. I'll see guys posting their Peloton scores and stuff like that. It's just you just know that they caught something. And then they're just fucking back to compete. I feel like you probably at the Sean Booth classes. I'm sure when you went back and doing that and you see everybody compete, there's just something in there that's like, okay, I'm going to fucking get after it now.

We're doing a March Madness right now where you're paired up and you do like a heart rate score. And it's like the competitive nature right now in the gym is through the roof. People are like savages and they're just like grinding for 55 minutes straight as hard as possible to get this heart rate score and like the perfect like designated zone and it's a fucking time. There's probably nerves too.

How do you guys do the heart rate score is like the highest, the highest is good? Or you want to be between these numbers? And the fourth highest level is usually between I think like 130 to 140 Bs per minute is like the ideal exertion rate zone.

So you don't want to be in the highest zone but you want to be in the fourth highest zone to get the most points per minute. It's like based on a score. So if you're in the highest zone, you don't get like, It's points. So it's like the fourth highest zone is you get the maximum amount of points.

Which is? Fifth high zone is then the second highest points you can get. And then it incrementally goes down from there. Yeah, dude, I enjoyed that booth thing. We did it one time when Sean came on the bus. And he was like, you guys got to come to do one. We literally wouldn't do that that day, right? Yeah. It's tough.

Because we did. We got fucking body. I think we did upper body in the morning. Just, you know, throughout that we had a double day. Yeah, we had a double day. We had a fucking double. Have you all ever used, like, meal prepering and stuff? like specifically like factor.

Do you say that again? Have you, have you done like meal prepping? Come with the ad. Oh, meal prepping. God damn. I'm sorry, Jack.

Great fucking call, bro. Jack, good job and that's, that's definitely on my dumb brain, bro. Hey, it's okay.

I thought, I should have just started reading it. Yeah, you're like, he's talking about, you're talking about this ad coming up. I'm literally still going, it's like processing in my head.

I'm like, meal prep. Yeah, I'm like, this booth camp do meal preps? I was going to, I was going to have you read it. That's why I was waiting for you to do.

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Yeah. We got some exciting stuff coming up with Duke Cannon and some other. exciting stuff I want to talk about that we're going to get into this summer possibly. I want to get ahead of this so that people know. Last year, we did a beer Olympics with the Tennessee Titans. It was a great time. It was an all-day affair. We finished practice and immediately went there.

This year, me personally, and we need to start working shopping this and getting this whole thing done. I want to make this thing fucking massive. I want comedians. I want country singers. I want athletes of all kind, hockey, baseball, football at one. one location fighting the good fight from like, like starting at 9 a.m. type shit. Legit production and a legit prize.

A legitimate prize. We're talking maybe a vehicle. Hang on, hang on. Don't temper expectations now. I'm talking, I'm talking a big fucking prize is what I'm talking about. I feel like official sanctioned referees. I got to be. Yeah, yeah.

I'm not playing zebra this year. Everybody was hammered and it got a little dicey once the sun started going down. Will and I got the structure. Yeah. The structure in that. Will and I started talking about this a few weeks ago. Well, we've been to ever since the first beer Olympics, we were like, we should do that again, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Yeah, last year when we had the old line come over and we had a little beer Olympics. We're like, oh, man, it'd be sick to make this something bigger. And this weekend, I got the wild hair. I was like, man, I should probably start doing this. It's already March. I should probably start getting into it. I start texting people talking about big names coming to do this. Not going about big names.

Talking about big names here, boys. Talking about big time guys coming to drink big time beers with the boys. Start going through lists, start going through dates. And everyone, obviously all the people I'm reaching out to are extremely busy. There's a reason why they're busy and they're so successful is because they do shit all the time. So I'm trying to narrow down dates. If I can get a date narrow down, this thing's going to be fucking epic. I'm talking about legit production.

I even had a thought, and this is kind of just, we're going to have a little open brain trust here for a second. Like the mini golf they had for Barstool, maybe have commentators and live streaming it. See, the live streaming, I think it's dicey, man, because we're talking about some dreams. Yeah, people might stay some shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's a good point. It's all I needed to fucking move away from that thought. I'm just saying the streaming aspect definitely gets dicey.

Because I'm sure if we get, if there's sponsors on this and stuff like that, I'm sure there'll have to be some guidelines and things that we have to make sure we do correctly. But all they're saying is it's going to be an incredible blog. And I do, I agree with you. Like true referees, not true referees. Like definitely somebody wearing professional referees. It has to fucking focus on their job the whole time. Yeah, yeah.

It has to make sure they know the rules. and they fucking enforce those rules. High vibes, personalities, and fucking beer drinking. God, it's going to be awesome. And then we should do something drunk at the end. Like if we have a bunch of comedians, we do the thing,

and then after that, we go to Zadis. And then they do stand up. Or something like that. What, losers last time? Yeah, we went to losers last time. Or you get a little fucking Sprinter vane or something. Yeah, do something like,

and then get rowdy on the town that night, if the boys could even fucking make it. So we should smack, and I'm not going to say anything. names, but we should smack some food after two. Like fucking dive in on some grow. Yeah, you're talking about... Something dirty. You know? You know? Yeah. Talk about

that place. That place that wants a sponsor. Exactly. Yeah. That's why I don't want to say any names. Right, right. I don't want to alienate anybody. We want to... Yeah. Because that's another vlog. You know what I mean? 100%, dude. Some good energy. And that's what we got five ads today, boys. That's what we got five ads. This is you guys are fucking letting this shit happen, dude. It's incredible. Should we talk up? We gotta do shout out, no for shout-out.

Yeah, we do guys. I do shout out. Let's hit shout out, no free shout out. And then we'll get to the Nickelback episode. And we'll even hit the Duke Cannon before the nickelback episode. So those of you who want to get into Nickelback, boom. You get the whole episode, no issues. All right.

Shout out, no free shout out this week. Obviously, we're going to start with Blas. Blossie. What did he got for us, homie? Well, speaking of food, my shout out this week actually goes to a video that you guys participated in. You guys created the sushi casserole. I saw that video and I love sushi, but it could get pricey. But I tried that cassero much cheaper than actually going out and getting sushi.

But I gave that recipe a try and it was actually pretty good. I didn't know you guys didn't enjoy seaweed like that. I love seaweed. So it was 10 times more enjoyable than I think you guys let it off to be. You know, not a big seaweed guy. Yeah. I am a seaweed guy. I don't think I ever alluded to not being a seaweed guy.

I actually said the texture of the seaweed made it a whole lot better because otherwise it would just be mush. It was your first time trying it, though, right? Or you said, yeah, I've had seaweed. I've had hand rolls before, brother. I'm all about that sushi game. See, I've had the fucking seaweed snacks that they try and sell, and I think those are fucking garbage.

Okay, well, that sponsors off the table. But yeah, my shout-out, no free shout-out goes to, fuck it Fridays. Let's go. Who was it? Which one of y'all was like, seaweed is a delicacy. And someone in the comments were like, that couldn't be farther from the truth.

Hey, announcement, though, before you say that something just came across my phone, John Wick 4 official. Wow. On Wick 4 will be coming out. I think that's a headliner. I love the John Wick movie. Me too. I'm about that.

My shout and every shout out goes to something current. One of the greatest things in sports. March Madness. You cannot beat this last weekend that just went on with the tournament 64 going on. Games every second. Upsets going on. on Purdue went down hard. The Valls had an incredible win over Duke. So it's just really fun when everybody kind of, you know, collaborates on the brackets, you're talking shit with your homies,

you're throwing out bets on teams you've never even heard of. You really just can't beat that kind of vibe in March. And it truly is madness. So shout out to the brackets everywhere that are just getting absolutely thrusted by these upsets. There were a lot of upsets going on. Because when Purdue lost, that's when the Purdue wrestler won. Really? Yeah. Yeah. It was nice.

Going back to John Wick 4 a little bit, though. That is like the new Jason Borns. The boogeyman is back, bro. That shit is so fucking good. And Keanu Reeves, his best movie of all time is Bill and Ted's excellent adventure. But the fucking... Which movie?

I don't think I've ever seen what you... You've ever seen Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure? Mm-mm. I haven't. I apologize. That's tough. But he's a phenomenal movie. However, John Wick,

the got the way he fucking gets that stuff done. Yeah. He's incredible. Master murderer. He's like combat train in real life. Yeah. That's what I think about it. Yeah.

That's what's fucking awesome about it. Those little videos that come out are awesome. Yeah. I'm like just training and rolling with guys. Yeah. There's a lot of, there's a little key, a lot of good Keanu Reeves movies.

The replacement. Hardball. The Matrix. Yeah. Oh yeah. Matrix? I never got into the Matrix. I never watched.

I never liked the Matrix. Generee's in the Matrix alone made more money in a three-part series than any person in history. It's like the biggest franchise of all time. That's outstanding. I can't believe Star Wars isn't up there with that. Like richer than God. But he's also like the coolest guy ever.

He gets to pick his shots now. That's why he's like, yo, I just want to do John Wick. Like what I do in real life? Like, let's just make this into a movie. Yeah. Four of them. Like he's probably so hype. He gets to do a fourth one of like just the same character. Just go around and murder everybody.

Definitely an Illuminati suspect. You think so? Oh, I mean. A Keanu Reeves? Maybe. He might be there. He's not. He's the guy you might think, but...

He's one trying to take down the Illuminati. Maybe infiltrate. Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. We got a new movie for you, Keanu. He's... Fultrading the Illuminati.

Mitchie, what you got for your shout-out? No free shout-out of the week. All right. My shot, I know if your shout-out of the week goes to something that went on this weekend. Not the March Madness, but I had a bunch of my buddies from college and from when I lived in Charlotte come and visit. And it was just an absolute shit show where it was at Broadway for, like 10 hours one day and then next day we were at the broadway for like eight hours but just the camaraderie around being with your boys again and like just catching up on what's been going on

and like just the funny videos and stuff you take of people just while you're out it's just a vibe like no other so shout out to when your boys visit you that's your vibes with the boys yeah yeah that's a good one and it's also a dangerous one when you're adding two different friend groups and putting them together your college boys your charlotte boys and making it making the mesh there could be some anxiety behind that when they all come in, you're hoping that they all get together, unless they've known each other before that. Yeah, so when I lived in Charlotte, like, I had a couple of my college buddies down there, and then we moved down there and we all kind of like messed together.

Okay, that's awesome. They all came together at the same time. That's a vibe, brother. It was so much fun. Broadway is a good time. It's a good time, but I'm, you like just unhooking and saying, I'm going to, I'm going to party. Yeah, but it's, you can only take it for so long. Like, I'm sick of it already.

You're over Broadway. Yeah. I'm just kind of like over being crammed around people. Yeah. It gets madness down there. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The last time was on brought, it was actually the beer, the beer Olympics.

The last thing was there. It was like a month ago. Unless you go to Agme for our watch parties or pregame whatever's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Down at Acme? Okay. Thank you. Watch parties as well.

Yeah. Been to a couple of those now. Willie, what you got for a shoutout of the week? My shoutout, no free shout out of the week, goes to a simple pleasure in life. and it's even the simplicity of this is something that was very refreshing when I did this last night because I'm good to do it maybe a time or two each week

but my shout-on-no-free shout-out goes to the smell after lighting a match I will take matches pulled it out of the drawer and I will literally just light a match and watch it just burn to the end until my fingertips get a little burnt and I'd pull it out and then I just fill the room with that scent

And I love it. Hell yeah. And I love that scent. So that's my shout-on-no-free shout-out. That is like, I was sitting back last night. I told Charo, I said, I got a shout-out, no-free shout-out. Because she goes, yo, you love lighting matches. And I'm like, I really do.

And I'm like, it's going to go to this simple pleasure. Like, it just brings me a very short-term joy of just taking in that scent. Hell, yes. But my shout-out, no-frey shout-out, bro. It's funny how men like unique scents, like a match being lit and then just smelling the match, instead of putting a candle on or gasoline. Gasoline is one that for whatever reason, you get a nice little huff before you get back in the car

after filling up the tank. Did that before I came here, actually. Or if you're, yeah, if you get a little on you, it's like, oh, it's disgusting, but you got a weird fetish of smelling the gasoline. Yeah, yeah. Or, and I might be alone here on this. Give a little, and then give it a little.

That's weird? Nah, that's straight. That's everyone does it. Okay, good. I'm just making sure. Sometimes I like to get that wedge in between, like, the groin. I'm like, what is this really? And for whatever reason, you're like, yeah, I can understand how people would not like the smell of that.

But for whatever reason, I'm liking my own scent right now. You don't like it, but you're like, for whatever, want to do it again. That's what you're into, Jack, because I'm saying every dude does that. No, I mean, I'm not into it. But, like, I'm not going to lie and say that that's weird. Like, it's like every guy does that. Every guy does that. But not, like, being into the scent, I think, is where we got to draw the line.

It's not like, oh, I need that. a perfume or I enjoy like gasoline. I really smell. I'm like, yo, I fucking love the smell of gasoline. I don't know why, but I just fucking, for whatever reason, do. That, it's like... Like the forbidden fruit. Yeah. Yeah, it's something, dude. It gives me some sort of like,

I don't know. I don't know how to really express that, but here I am. So my shout out for no free shout out goes to that groin smell. The cheese nuts. Yeah, the cheesy, dude. Now, I'm like, I got a shout out to a new free shout out to Emo's Not Dead and Matt Cutshell, I believe his name is.

Jackie posted a video of us when we were a couple weeks ago doing our tear talk, doing our albums, and we did play Your Broken Hero, which is Matt Couchel's band. It's kind of a spoof. It's kind of not, but he put the music on. It's fire as fuck. And so they sent me a bunch of gear. A shitload of shirts.

I'm talking about a big ass box. It's a nice color. A big ass box. I'm talking about hoodies, reusable bottles, like a whole bunch of shit. A whole bunch of stuff. Coffee. And so nice, right? So they sent me in and I was like, you got to shout them out.

I was like, I will on Shout, No Free Shout Today. So my shout out, no free shout out goes to Emo's not dead and Matt Cutchill. I hope I'm saying his name's right. I hope I'm saying his name correctly. This week, Nickelback, I mean, what do you even say, right? Will said the greatest band of all time. You guys all know who my favorite band of all time is. But a band that truly, we're like the first band probably ever hated on to the degree

they were hated on. Yeah. Like they went through hell and back. It still came back, dude. Hell and back. And now they're back. But they literally had amazing stories, dude. They only sat here for an hour.

They had to go do a whole bunch of shit. They're coming back in August. And I think we're going to be a part of their, their Bridgestone arena. Sadly. Sadly, your boy will be in Italy. The boys and I will be a part of nickel back. Dude, it's going to be amazing.

That's going to be tough. We'll make sure to have an outstanding vlog for you guys to show not only you, but also Will Compton. Oh, don't get a twist. Now, I will groupie and go, a city wherever they're at. Still get an experience. Sitting there.

Everybody told Sean, I'm like, hey, we got to go to wherever they're performing. Get out there. Yeah, yeah. What? Children in Atlanta, like, right before after. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but Italy, right then and there.

And we actually made that plan probably before you made your Italy plan. No, no, when they were talking August 1st, our first, I already knew it was an uphill battle. Really? Because I remember at that point, you were talking about going to Italy in like June or July. No, you, I think you guys were talking about Italy in late June. Late June. Late June, you guys are like, oh, we'll be there and then, too. No, I think we were just.

If you look in the group chat that we all were in, we were just talking about like things of doing it. Understandable. Understandable. But incredible storytelling. And also, give me his name, please.

Chad Kroger. Chad Kroger sings on this podcast. And legit, it's like, dude, we've all been around people in the car. And then a song comes on that they know the words to and they start belting out and you're kind of like cringing for him.

Chad Kroger busts at a couple and you're like, holy fuck. Sounds just like. He's actually ripping it right now. It was incredible. He sounds like nickel back. Watch my face, dude. Talks about his cousin.

I believe is Alberta, who literally quit the band a year before they signed a deal to sell insurance. What a fucking idiot. Yeah, hindsight. But the probability of that is, obviously, 0.001.

Right. But that is a tough loss to look back on. Which brings me to a would you rather, would you rather be able to travel back in time or travel to the future? Because I feel like mine's easy. Travel back in time. Yeah?

I got Mitch whispering he's with you. Blas also. Yeah. Taking his head. Okay. Change the past. But also like, just like you,

March Madness, dude. Just like you with March Madness and talking about bets with the boys. You watch all the games. Go back in time. See ya. How far back would you want to go though? No.

No, you're not. Like hot tub time machine? How far back would you want to go though? Jack Bullzerian, dude, at the end of that day. I'd go back to high school. Yeah, go back.

But now you're adding an extra element. because do you go back in time and become the person you were back then or you travel back in time like yourself? Like would I travel with 31 year old Taylor traveled back to 2004? Well, of course. My 13 year old self. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. I'm asking. I'm not there's not, of course it's not the correct answer. I think when asking that would you rather travel back in time, you have to go back to what you

were and still relive all of those days. But you can come back to the present? You eventually come back to the present where we are now. So I would be 31 year old Taylor in a 13 year old Taylor's body. and having to relive those 18 years? 17. I'm 31. 31.

17. Fuck the math, dude. It was 18 years. Yeah, 18, 18. 13 plus 18? 17. You're 13? Oh, yeah, it is 14.

It's 18. Not 14. 14 year old Taylor. 13 plus 18. Yeah, you're in your 13 year old body. And yeah, it's you. Yeah, but I'd like to manipulate this a little bit more and be able to bank on on backing 13.

Maybe I go kiss Austin Howell. Maybe I go make that move that I want. wanted to make. And I go back to 31. No, but that's the thing. I think that kind of levels the playing field. Because I think going back in the past would be the move. You jump back, you change something.

You come back to the future. Like, you're like fucking, like shooting fish in the barrel. But you got to go back and you stay there and still relive out, relive out, you know, until we get to this point. So with the future. Or look into the future. So with the future, you'd be able to go to the future, see the future and come right back? Yeah. Yeah.

I think that evens the playing field. Then I might go future because the same rules apply with betting. You go to the future. You see that. You come back and say. boys follow me what about if you wanted to travel back to like before you were born that doesn't play into will's scenario

yeah that's my thought my thought process was I would want to travel back to when my dad was a kid is the shit that he did seems sound yeah the shit that he did imagine you're all of a sudden just a sperm rip and they're like god damn it dude like the stuff that he did sounds so cool oh fuck

one sperm who almost beat you fucking get you and then you're just knew never existed. You're just left laying there on your mom's back, dude. Evaparating up into the cloud. No! Oh, my God. Fuck, dude, that adds an extra element.

So I probably travel the future in that situation then. I don't know, though, because... That's a fun one. That's a fun one for everyone to kind of answer, yeah. Would you rather go into the future, be able to come back or go into the past and relive the past? I still think going back to the past and relive in the past, like, the moments that you just know you're not getting back. you just be, hey, boys. Like, we're fucking not getting this shit.

Yeah, but what if you fuck something up? And then all of a sudden you get to 31, you're like, damn, I didn't make it to the NFL. I didn't do a podcast with my boy. And you're looking. A lot of movies about this. Back to the future. Like, being one of them, it almost ruined my life.

But did you not cry at the end of the movie? Oh, my gosh. You're fucking eyes out. But he's clicking. And then he's just rewiring for the future. So it's like both are playing into it. Yeah. What?

Yeah, that one, that's put some shit in perspective, boys. enjoy the moment. Yeah. Also, superpowers. Talk about superpowers. I would love to manipulate time. I know I'm opening another bag here,

but like I thought about this morning when I woke up real early. And I was like, let's save it for a Thursday spot. All right. Because these are good conversations. Yeah, these are good conversations. And then we'll unpack.

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What's up, brother? How are you doing, man? Living the dream one day at a time. Daniel? Taylor? And then he did this thing where he opened up a box full of gifts from, or like. Oh, this is during COVID. That was my favorite.

Did the unboxing was unreal. I'm just like opening shit up. I know. And then so somebody checked one of our, there was like a nickel back CD in there. And then I watched him like, oh, fuck, here we go. Yeah, you figure everybody catches his hands. He's going to just start shredding this. And he pulls it on and he goes, I bet you people think I'm going to talk shit.

And what? That's a really good band. It's a good band right on the next thing. And I was like, okay, I fucking love this dude. Yeah. Dave. I'm just like, that was, that was... Dave is really like that was... Dave is really like that, man. He, I don't know when this episode's coming out. So if we put this one out before, Dave, Dave was on here last week. He's going to be our 200th episode. And the guy just steals views. I mean, he really has just done something amazing. Do you know how Barstle started? Not really. I, you know, for me, like the... Yeah. The extent of my knowledge on the whole thing was just him doing the these pizza reviews. Yeah. You know, that was my introduction. You know, because I just kind of kept looking over at my girl's iPad.

I'm like, why are you watching this dude do a pizza interview? Yeah. Right? And the next thing I know, I stop my game and I'm, I'm captivated. I'm like, the dude, like... It's like, what are we watching this for? And then everything you're like, oh, they're going to propose. Are they not going to get married, you know?

At first you're like, why are you watching this stuff? Dude, everyone knows Chad's an asshole. How's she falling for this? But dude, the story, I'll give you a spark-note version on Barcelona and how it started is Dave went to the University of Michigan. graduated like 97-98, goes back to Boston, starts a newspaper company under like five aliases and puts in like fake sponsors, like Mastro's Steakhouse, puts in a fake sponsor for that. And then I'll have, I guess, a real sponsors, like some random strip club, like a Hooters or something like that.

And he would just put them in these free mailboxes and it just slowly started to grow. And they have done an amazing job of just like changing with the tide. Internet happens. And it becomes massive podcasts or happening. Blogging. Blogging. Blogging. Yeah, all that stuff. Adaptation.

All the longs. He just scammed and hustled his way. He's a true hustle. It's crazy. If he wanted a Ruth Chris Steakhouse ad, a sponsorship, he would put in a fake one of a competitor so then he could call

Ruth Chris back and be like, hey, so-and-so's doing this. Are you sure you don't want to get in the beverage? Sounds like someone else. I know. Oh, shit. You got that's fantastic. You hustle?

I love the hustle, dude. Love it. Yeah. Yeah, like, so back of the day, when we were doing everything ourselves like everything was independent we were pressing our own CDs we were making our own like our own artwork and everything

and then we were distributing all this and I'm on the phone with radio stations so I'd call up the program director of a radio station I'd be like hey did you get our did you get our package did you get a chance to to listen to the song we're working yeah yeah we did and I'm like

oh wonderful and before I you know and I would just gauge like was it a little tepid you know, because they'd be like, yeah, great tune. We threw it into a light rotation right off the bat. Oh, that's wonderful. Thank you so much. You know, or be like, yep.

And then a little pause, and I'd be like, well, you know, if you're interested to see who else in the country's playing it right now, I can fax. And that was, man, we were faxing back then. I can fax over like a playlist and show you what, you know, the four nearest radio stations to you are doing and where we are on the playlist. And they were like, oh, I'd love that. Like, oh, that'll be over to you in probably less than 30 minutes. And they're like, that's great, wonderful, okay? And so I would take, so I would get anybody that we got added to. I'd be like, oh, can you just, can you fax me a copy of the playlist that shows us on there?

So I would take us and I would swap us up like 10 positions, you know, tape it on there and go like this. And then I would photocopy it. And then I would fax them to other radio stations showing them that we were like 10 spots higher than we actually were. Yeah. And then we get the ad. No shit. That is wild. She did our way into fame.

I love the hustle. Love the hustle. sure. And you guys have been doing it for so long now. And you didn't call as you, right? You'd be like, hi, this is whoever. Calling on behalf of Nickelback. You would act as your own agent, basically. Well, independent radio promoter because we didn't have a record company. So I was just calling them up all the time and just like, that was, that was, so my, I guess my, my experience or my schooling for this would have been my education. I was a telemarketer for a while. And I'm like, so what am I doing?

And they're like, that's got to be like the worst job of all time. It's terrible. It's absolutely horrible. You're just sucking donations out of old ladies, you know, and you're just like getting on the phone with these people and just trying to get their money into whatever company. Old ladies are giving it to them.

And people are just bitching you out. I'm manipulating them everywhere you could. Yeah. It's terrible. Yeah, but it's like, you know, the one I was doing it for was make a wish. So, you know, at least it was a good cause. Yeah.

So we're doing the Make a Wish Foundation. And I was, I just got so good at getting on the phone with people. So when it came time to like, okay, well, who's going to call these radio stations? I'm like, I'll do it. I'll do it. I was a telemarketer for a year. And it's like, I got this down. And then it's just like, you just have to be charismatic, cool. Get a rapport going, get them talking.

Right. You know. Remember their name. Storm that just rolled through there. You guys are right over there. It's funny. You say that actually. There was a lot of hail.

And they just started going into it. And you're like, oh, hell's the worst. Get them talking. Yeah. You know, and then just get a little something. It's like, oh, you know, it's. I saw your hockey team you guys

let a whoop on the whoever you know it's like yeah yeah the boys are doing well right now and just get them going yeah get them talking get them to like you and if they can like

if you get them like and all of a sudden it's like I will never play this ban to I'll give you a shot yeah you know sales you were just selling selling selling and that's the bit so like taking a step back like

like how did this whole nickel back start like like what was your process we're like I'm really gonna do this because when I was listening to the interview, I was just telling you about you were at a Metallica concert, smoking a joint, and getting arrested and spending a few months in Juvie. That's where I was at that point.

I don't really have to answer the question. No, I mean, I was 14, I think, when that happened. Oh, brother, I think everybody spent a little time in Jubei. Yeah. You never went there? No. I hated the Juvie. I was a good kid.

Yeah, you're out hustling behind the curtain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do the stuff to where you're there. When it gets too far, you kind of just fade that. Yeah. Oh, that's crazy. You guys would do it. that you kind of just snitch on everybody else.

No, if you go and if you did a little stint, it was a hell of a deterrent. Because if you're like, if this is anything even close to what prison is like, and it's not, but it's just like, I don't want to, I don't want to spend any length of time here. Like, when someone takes your freedom away from you, you're just like,

no, I'm good. I need to try something else. And so with the whole music thing, it was like, I just, you know, I didn't know how to write a song that well back then. And it was just, you just try and learn and learn and learn and then you get on stage and, and, you know, you just work your ass off and try and figure out what the hell you're doing.

You know, process of elimination, not process of elimination, but it's like trial by fire. Yeah. Like get up there and just go, just do it, do it, do it. What'd you do right this time? What'd you do wrong this time? Don't do that again. Do this every single time. like you have to eat a lot of shit too.

Oh, you play the bars now. A lot of, oh, yeah. I wonder how that compares like stand-up. Because I feel like if you're a stand-in-com comedian, you just go up there and you bomb and you know you bombed. But I feel like if you guys are playing, can you tell if people are enjoying themselves or is? What's a, what's a shitty show look like?

Yeah. If I'm getting up there and I'm giving it to my heart and soul, I get off there and go, all right, kind of did something today, didn't that? Yeah, you kind of feeling yourself. Maybe we just work for them. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like, if you're playing like a, if you're playing a, night right after like St. Patrick's Day and everybody's hung. It just hung as fuck, right? And it's a Monday on top of that. And you know you could just feel, you could feel it up there

because like you finish up, you finish playing like a big song. Yeah. And they're just like, hey. And like I've said to the crowd before, hey, I know you're all hungover. I'm hungover too. You guys paid for the tickets, so you just have as much fun or as little fun as you want to have.

But my job up here is to try and get you into it. So shake it off, get a beer, climb back on the horse, and let's do this. He actually gets madden. No way. And I'm like, let's go. Does it work? It does? Hell yeah.

I'm like, you paid for these tickets. You had to find a babysitter tonight. You'd do all these things to get down here. And now you're here, and you're just sitting there dragging it. It's just like, oh. And I'm like, I know. I know you're hungover. I can feel it.

You know, it's like, and I don't give a shit that it's Monday. I don't care that you have to work tomorrow. You bought these tickets. And my job is to entertain you, right? My man's giving a TED talk up there. I don't know what to like. We're about to play a banger for you, boys. Yeah.

Everybody, let's get your shit together. This one's going to hit one, two. All right. Yeah. There you go. Start going. So how to, like, at first, obviously, you don't have that kind of stage presence. You're sitting there and you're like,

hey, I hope this goes well and you guys are doing your thing. Hey, everybody. Yeah, hey, glad to be here today. We're Nickelback and you kind of just like get into it. Drove a long way to get here. Yeah. So how did, like, did the confidence start coming when you, like the hits started coming? Or was it just process of just going through it over and over and over again?

My band, I was in an original band of Vancouver. We won a local radio contest, so we were on the radio for a bit. And the prize was to play the big show at the end. I opened up for these guys, actually. No way. Yeah, 1990. 99 or 98. You just got back.

You were on the state door, I think. I've seen a lot of local bands and stuff with some really good ones. We played, and then I watched them play. And I was like, these guys have some kind of, some kind of zeitgeist, just like something, the X-Factor thing, right?

That used car salesman that's up there front in that band. He's on a stuff. Yeah, he just gave me all this speech in this crowd. He just motherfucked that. Yeah. He came to actually enjoying their time.

It was half time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you go up there, you were with this band, who I'm assuming they're not together anymore? No, new big shoes was the band. New big shoes. Who made up that name? I don't know.

We drew it out of the hat or some shit. No way. We were called Face Basket before that, so it was a slight improvement. Yeah, I think Face Basket was a cool name. Yeah, I think Face Basket did a solid deal. You see that in that because, like, if you guys were playing somewhere and you'd see Face Basket, it's like, I'm like, these dudes look heavy. hell. Yeah, they go hard.

Yeah. Facebast, and we went to work. As in line dying and facebasket. Yeah. After it, dude. How'd you get in? How'd you get in with the boys? With these guys? Yeah, by saying it that night. Um, see, well, like, I knew our tour man, their tour manager, uh, Kevin. I was always kind of in touch. And then I actually won the lottery myself and joined three doors down. Mm-hmm. And so I was in Vancouver. Yeah, so I moved down to

Southern Alabama to be with them and toured for about two and a half years and then we did a co-headlining tour of North America and that's when Chad was checking out my drum solo live and stuff and remember we were hammered

in Houston one day and you're like anything ever happens to my drummer I'll call you I was like wow that's cool but how high was I everyone's been there when they had that like in-depth, like deep conversation when they're part a little too lit up. But I was like, no, but I was watching Daniel and I was like, you know, I was, I'm like,

fuck this kid can play. And then he'd, and then, you know, he'd lean over and start singing harmonies in the chorus. I'm like, fucker can sing too. Advice to all young drummers learn how to sing. Learned how to sing. Really? Absolute asset. One million percent, dude. I wonder why that is.

You get hired over the guy you can't sing. It's nice to have three-part harmonies. He hits the high-high harmony. I'm not crunchers. Yeah, those things that just make you twinge a little bit. Yeah, you get out there. So he's not only back there kicking the shit out of the drums, but he's also singing the whole time he's back there.

So I have no excuse. If I'm sitting there going, hoof, God, tonight really kicked my ass. You're like, oh, yeah, you should have tried drumming the whole fucking show at the same time. You know, it's like, like mad respect. So, yeah, he just eventually called. It was the right timing, and, uh,

here we are 18 years. We still with Three Doors down? Yeah. How does that shit work? That's what I'm curious about. Yeah, there's got to be somewhat of a break up there, and I'm sure it didn't. It sucked. Hit him up over AIM and be like, hey, boys, this isn't working.

It was a kind of a hard decision at the time. Yeah. It was because Three doors, we just put out. A bite on this. Yeah. Three doors went number one at Rock, and you just got off the long road tour, and everyone's like, oh, nickel bag's done, you know there. I was like, I don't know, man.

Real sinking ship. Yeah. Yeah. guy, yeah, the record guy's like, fuck you move, Daniel. You're jumping onto a sinking ship. I was like, oh God, I took weeks to decide. They started to call me like,

dude, are you coming or not? I made a decision. I said, you get in the room with us and you help us write these songs and I'll give you publishing. And he was like, and that record, all the right reasons went on to sell over 22 million copies worldwide. Just that was the first record he jumped on.

My audition was photographing far away in the studio. Let's go. awesome. Yeah. How does it work? What's enticing about producing? Or would you publishing? That's what I want to do. What's that? Right. Like what it, like, I don't know anything about music. I'll give you the publishing or something. Yeah. And me and we're like mouth open and going, oh, yeah, but we really don't know what that means.

So if you're, if you're on stage, if you're in the band and there's four you guys, right? Mm-hmm. You split that paycheck every night four ways, right? But when it comes to the song, when the song is generating revenue in terms of publishing, in terms of the writer, the writer's share. When it gets played on the radio, when the albums actually sell, there's like, 20 different revenue streams that come from publishing. That's like a whole other realm of enticement. When you say to somebody, hey, you get in the room and you work on these songs,

and I'll actually cut you in. Like in Nashville, if you're in the room, like anybody who's in the room with a song, like... Right, Will and I are sitting in the room with y'all. Yeah, this is going four ways. Yeah. Like the joke is, you know, write a word, get a third.

That's what everyone says in Nashville. That doesn't work with me. You get paid for what you contribute. So if you're in there and you're helping, like you're working on the chorus and all of a sudden, it's like, oh, that's a good line. You're in the verses and it's this, this. And it's like, oh, what if instead is going to that note,

you come down to this note and then go up to, that's writing. Now you're contributing. Now you're, I'm like, okay, so now, let's sit down and talk about this. Let's work out how much publishing, like how much you put into the song. Because the whole, like, just sit there and, you know,

give a word, get a third thing. That doesn't fly with me. You're going to have to work. That means just every time you get in a room. So if I'm just sitting in a room with, let's say, so I'm here in Nashville and I'm in a room with Morgan Wallen, who's pumping out big, big hits, smashes, right?

And I just go, and, just put the word and there. Yeah. I get a third of the tune? That's not fair. No, it's not. They've got to put in the effort. Like, you don't have to put in some work.

Like, that's how it works in my world. Right. It's mailbox. money essentially. Yeah. And then you sit, you know, wherever.

So that was the moving, that was the moving part for you. Well, were you getting that kind of, were you getting that kind of cut with three doors down? No. So that first is enticing.

And then there's another entice part. You're thinking, if I believe, like, dudes, do you know, like, dude's on the other side and say, this is a sinking ship. You're believing.

I was looking, I was looking at it. Really moved down. You're thinking, yo, you're believing there's something there. It's like, fuck, I'm betting on the upside with it.

I saw his work ethic. He did that tune with Santana. produced The Air of a Dead Man, did default. Like, this guy's a workaholic. And I was like, no, I think there's definitely something there. Yeah. We're all Canadian. We're all hosers.

So we, like, we got along right off the bat. Yeah. Fucking ready. I barely track drums because we were laughing so hard. So it goes back to the hockey arena in your house. I don't think American would have that. No. That's a big time Canadian thing.

Yeah, like, I don't, I don't, I'm not good enough to deserve having a rink in my house. like I'm so far below mediocre. It's just like, dude, why do you have this? Like, if you see me skate, yeah, you'll be like, I want him on my team. And then, like, give me one hard pass and be like, yeah, no, I don't really want him on my team. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let's go to someone else. You can skate, but no handles. Yeah, I can skate like Brian Boytano, but like. Seems like he can skate a little bit. Yeah, he's down. One day we'll be up at his house. We're ankle bending. We're like falling in the corner holding on to the side.

He's like, what are you guys doing? Ripping around. Yeah, well, I can shoot. I've got a pretty accurate shot. But yeah, like, there's some certain skills because I didn't play hockey growing up. Right. I was so busy. Like, my dad was ecstatic when he put me on skates because usually you hold onto a chair as a kid and you push the chair so you don't fall over, right?

So you put the chair out. And the kid goes, my dad's always like, oh, you took about two strides, pushed the chair the way you're going. And he's like, oh, I got a hockey player. Right, right. And he goes. The golden goose. Yeah. But then he goes, then my dad says, you.

You got old enough to play hockey. And all you wanted to do is chase girls around the arena. All you wanted to do is just go play, like, all you want to do is, like, public skate. And you didn't actually want to, like, put the gear on and go play hockey. Because I'm like, wait, I just got hanging with a bunch of dudes. Or, like, I can just go, like, you know, I can go chase these girls around. My dad's like, oh, God, he's not going to play hockey. You got half of it, though.

I feel like, that's a real hockey mindset right there. Rock starting the making. Yeah, yeah, for real. Chasing the women. So the boys are all Canadian. You're like, this is going to be a good fit. Yeah. Was it three doors down?

Where were they from? They were originally from... Eschataba, Mississippi. Oh, wow. Big difference. Yeah. What was it like on your side, your guys' side, making that move in the business with the drummer?

Well, the thing is, we knew Daniel. Like, Daniel used to play... So when I was on the road with Nickelback, I had a buddy that watched my house while I was on tour. And he started a band with him. So he was at my house. I was rehearsing on his drum kit when he was on the road. Playing my drums.

So I knew Daniel long before he was ever in. In my house, playing my fucking drums. Daniel don't touch my fucking drums. The one thing, I was like, bring your own snare. Like, stop kicking the shit out of my snare. I was like, bring your own snare. But then, yeah, and we were also like good friends with the three doors guys. And so when we just sort of, we threw the offer to Daniel,

because I knew that you weren't like an official, official official member. and I knew you weren't getting publishing or anything like that. And there was like, there was tension. There was definitely some tension. There's got to be, yeah. It's like, I'm like, well, because what we were kind of doing at that point in time was like, well, either put him in the band or let him go. Right.

You know. You really being his agent for him. Put him in the band or let him go. Yeah. No, because all we had to do was throw the offer on there. So either you're going to make them a full member or we're going to take them and we're going to put them in the band. So balls in your court. I know that's, I know it's shitty.

But you know what? I think you guys are going to get this one. You can't win the Super Bowl if you don't stack your team. Yeah. Looks like you won that. Look, yeah. I guess it wasn't a thing. Yeah.

So do we? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So what were your drummer doing before him? Yeah, was there saltiness when that conversation had to happen? Yeah, because I like to think maybe he was an alcoholic or something. He was just like kind of ruining his own life.

They're like, hey, this is the best for you. And you're traveling. You're about to leave with the boys and you know, you know, he's staying back and going to be playing on the drums. You're like, man, this guy's pretty tied in. Yeah. Tiled. The thing was, you know, we got signed with Ryan, Vic at all, and he's a brother that hurts

to talk about this. He's still a friend. You know, we're on good terms again. Good. It's actually really hard. Because we got signed together. We did multiple world tours together. And then you see him start to phone it in.

and you really it's like dude you can't be phoning this in like we want to go to the next level you know uh ready to go to his house I bet that was fucking a hard drive dude and he had no idea fuck and we're like we just got to we gotta tell you something dude

he's like what what's going on like we feel like you're just not putting in the effort and you're not stepping up. Like, we all, like, I'm, like, I'm trying to write the best songs in my life,

and I want to take this band to the next level. And he started to cry, and I was like, fuck. Like, what are we doing? Maybe this isn't the right fucking move. What are we doing? And we stuck to it. Chief was there.

That was. Were you there? No. No way. You're not bringing the new girlfriend over the... Yeah. Like, fuck, you can't do that. No, and I was friend.

with Vic at all as well, because when we were co-headlining together, I was always on his bus for talking drums and stuff. Yeah, I felt really shitty, too. It was hard, but I was like, I knew it had to happen. Or we're all just going to be complacent. So that's where we're going to, so this is where we're at now. We're all just going to phone it in. We're just going to sit on how you remind me and someday, you know,

and we had a couple of hits. Solid bangers, by the way. Yeah, those were good. Those were hitters. Thank you. But like, it was like, but I wanted, wanted more. I want to be one of the biggest bands in the world. Like, I want to be up there. I want to be way up there.

You know, and I want to, like, I want everybody working. I want that work ethic. You know, don't become, don't, you know, don't be complacent. We're going to put in the work and we put in the work. And we put in the work, we're going to see the results. You know, and then, uh, he said, I'm in. Hmm. And. Studio for seven months. We did all the reasons. And then.

fucking boom. Oh yeah. And then that record, and we worked our asses off. And it was photograph, animals, far away. If everyone cared. Rockstar. I think there was six singles on that record. It just went.

Saving me? Saving me. Forgot, yeah. Just stratospheric. Yeah. And it was just like, whole, like, we were on tour for ever. Two years? Like, it was just like, oh.

We almost ended and then Rockstar went number one in the UK. We're like, oh shit. I guess we're going back on the road again on the same album. Is that like just a, if it goes number one somewhere, you have to go there? We sell the tickets, yeah. We couldn't get the UK to bite on any of these singles that were just doing so well for us around the world. We couldn't get them to bite. And the last single that we worked on that record was Rockstar.

and Rockstar was like still just doing what it was doing we were in the studio with Mut Lang working on Dark Horse and we were two songs in and the UK jumps on I can't remember what happened but it was something, it was some good hustle.

The furniture company was that but it was also something else it said somebody took out a billboard or something like that that said Rockstar banned in the UK by Nickelback and so like everyone's in this billboard going. Was that the record company you did that?

I can't. I think it was an independent radio promoter or something along those lines. And everyone was like, we got to hear the song. Yeah. And then the song got into some commercial that was,

you know, like, yeah, it was a furniture. Sofa king. Call me, call me gullible, but it wasn't really banned.

They did, that was like a, a ploy. Yeah. Okay, good. I was trying to follow. I'm trying to follow. I'm trying to follow.

Yeah. That's a fucking hustle. Yeah. Yeah. And when he's like, look there. I was like, the little magazine, like newspaper, fax machine story.

But it's like, you know, so we're in the studio and all of a sudden, rock star just explodes in the UK. And the manager calls us like, boy, stop recording. Like, why? He's like, you guys are going to do a sold out tour of the UK. And there's like, and there's, I don't know, 12 big cities that you can play. And it's just like, when we sold out immediately? No way.

Crazy. The O2. Yeah, it's just like, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. So it's like, here we go, boys, we're back. That is crazy. Why do you think UK took that long to bite? I don't. I feel like that's like the Mecca for whatever reason for bands.

I know like that Kings of Leon, they've always been pretty big in the UK. But I feel like everyone always like wants to get there for some reason. But why do you think they weren't biting? I don't, I don't totally know because we, so when How You Remind Me came out, we went and played Wembley Arena, which was great. And then we did all, you know, the rest of the world. And then the next record came out, which was. long road.

It had some day on it. It had figured you out that starts off with, I like your pants around your feet, that whole tongue-of-cheek thing. Thank you. And we, but then we go back to the UK and it's like,

they didn't really grab onto to those ones as much. And so then we were doing two nights at a 4,500 cedar, I think. And I'm like, oh, we're not getting back into, we might never get back into Wembley. And so then we did the whole rest of the world on like five, six singles on the next record.

And the UK just wouldn't jump on anything. As soon as the Rockstar hit, it was like, we sold out Wembley and the O2 in one week. So we played Wembley, went out and did a whole bunch of other shows and then came back and finished the week. It's like on the other side of town. Yeah. Really?

In London, yeah. It holds about 18,000. I was going to ask how many people that is. That's wild. It's fantastic. I mean, you're playing these great, you know, venues where you've just heard of all these people playing. And I was always worried. I'm like, we're never getting back in.

We're never going to get back in. Right. Imposter syndrome. It's just like, and then all of a sudden, bam, it hitting. We're back. That is wild, dude. Yeah, that's cool. I remember when that album was out, we hit a concert.

I think it was a sophomore junior in high schools in St. Louis. Went out there. It was the best, bro. Went back, you know, best friend that I was dating at the time. We get back. We get back home. We go to this. gravel road nearby, hold hands to animals for a good little bit before I take her home.

But it was a fucking... That's cool. Just hold hands? Yeah, we just held hands. Yeah, of course. It was dark. It was late. Your gentleman.

Like, let's throw on some animals and let's do hands for a little bit. So when you're in St. Louis and you cross the bridge and you go over to where those, that big parking lot is that had the three clubs there. Yeah. Yeah. So we played one of those way back in the day. So it was like a strip club and then there was a bar and something else. Yes.

Yes. I'm very familiar with the area. Oh, that is awesome. Have you been back to St. Louis in a while? I can't remember. They got the new baseball stadium. They got this ballpark village. I mean, it's a nice little setup.

We played there in the last North American tour, I think. It feels like we haven't played anywhere in a decade. Like, once the ginormous pause button was pressed on the entire planet. I'm like, I just, I'm like, I feel like I'm retired. Like, I feel like I haven't played anywhere in, you know, in 10 years. It's so weird. So when someone's like, when was the last time we played there? I'm like, I don't

feel it. It feels like a lifetime ago, you know, when someone's like, when was last time you were, you know, played our city? I'm like, I don't know. I said St. Louis, cab drivers are the biggest scammers. Those are hustlers in general. You got to respect. That town, I remember the crew, everybody. They're like, looking on

your phone, they're going, like, way out to adding miles on. Yeah, when do you throw on the little Google map? And you're like, I used to do the left, you're taking a right. You're like, where are we going, man? A lot of that's going on. That concert was awesome. I think it's so fucking sick that you guys are sitting on the bus right now.

It is. It's awesome. Knowing how massive of a fan I've been, I am, going to your concert and stuff, and you guys are sitting on the bus. And I do appreciate you talking about this situation. I know we were kind of, you know, having a little joke. And once I saw that you guys weren't necessarily laughing, it was like, oh, okay, this could be real. And what's that? The conversation you had with the last drummer.

Oh, yeah, man. I should you talk about that. I felt like, you, that. We got in that moment, I was kind of like, fuck. We were kind of just, you know. I didn't know it was going to hit me like that. Like, it just kind of grabbed me. And I'm like, dude, you're going to be leaking on barstow.

I'm like, don't fucking let a tear go down your cheek when you're talking about. We both tried on this podcast before. It's awesome for you to be open about that too. I'm sure if he listens to this see this, like I'm sure you guys, like you said, yours are boys now. Oh, yeah. But there was two years where we didn't talk. I see that it affects you this long down the road.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's a true friendship. Well, you know, the cool thing we're being inducted into the Canadian Hall of Fame in March. Hey, let's fucking go. Yes, that is incredible. And Vic Adol is going to be on stage with us.

Oh, that's awesome. We're bringing him up because he was part of that. Absolutely. The genesis of the band, right? Yeah, I am. Dog, it's so fucking cool, man. Seriously. I wonder what his whole thought process is like watching, like, a band like you'd be so big for so long.

And just probably what his mindset, when he used to, you're trying to phone it in, I believe it's the term you used. And then sitting there now, man, they're like, man, if I just grind up with the boys a little bit longer. Yeah. You know? Well, it's kind of hard to put you in. You know, it's even, like, what's even stranger than that.

My cousin, Brandon Kruger. So it was Chad Kruger, Mike Kruger, Brandon Krueger on drums and Ryan Peek, guitar player. He was the original drummer. Hell of a drummer. Very educated. I think he was a year away from getting his doctorate to be able to teach percussion.

His father, my uncle, convinced him to quit the band and come work for him. What did his father do? Like sold life insurance and did investments and things like that, right? So talked him into quitting the band. Oh, no. A year before we got signed. I mean, it's, you know, he started a family.

He got married. He did the whole thing. You know, but he came to me, came to us this one day, and he was just like, and I just felt contri- I just felt like bullshit. He was like, you know, I don't think this life is, I don't think this is the life that I, I want to chase. Like, I don't think I want to spend my life on a tour bus. And I think, and I was just like, like, you lie.

You ain't got to lie, Craig. I'm like, where is this coming from? Right. You know, and then like a week later, I find that he moved back to Alberta and he's got a job with his dad. you know, and he's doing the whole thing, which is like, I was like, that's great. That's absolutely wonderful, you know, but I've never done it, but I'd love to sit around, you know, at Christmas with Uncle Brian. Like, oh, this is like the time that you talk Brandon into quitting the band a year before we got signed.

Oh, no. Hey, there was 364 days after he quit. He just, like, made the best decision for my life. To fire that one across. Made like 10K on a sales, sold some good life insurance. He's like, idiots. Dude, those good taste for the band? Yeah.

That 365th day can They're like, fuck. Then you see rock star one day The music video. How in the hell did you get all the celebrities? I don't know. I have no idea how they did it. We were on tour

And we got to Calgary. And we were playing the Saddle Dome. And had to hurt for your cousin. We've brought him up on stage. They're where? Oh, fuck. And just whispering his ear, this is what you could have. No, no.

No, no. No, no. No, I love him. I love him. them dearly like when we were growing up we were like brothers like we were really really tight um but we're in calgary and um we knew that camera crews had been like dispatched globally to go get you know just random people like that kid you know like no idea don't know who she is you know but you can see these there's you know some kid in new york one of the girls from oh booboies

Yeah. She was a bit of a rock. That was a bit of a switch. Playboy girls. You got Wayne Gretzky, Dale Earnhardt, kid rock. Billy Gibbons, the playboy girls from the girls next door. That cop from, you know, you get to... A hero. A hero. So it's like, people just, like, this production company was just asking everybody, hey, do you want to be in this? Do you want to be in a nickel back video?

And they'd play the song. It's like, just learn a couple lines. And we'll get you to sing this. and the first cut of this video I saw was so bad. It was so bad. I was just sitting there and my heart sunk. And I'm like, oh, this is a great song. And we're just flushing this thing down the toilet. And I remember sitting in the production office in Calgary and chief, our tour manager, showed it to me.

And I'm like, this is absolutely brutal. And he's like, it's not great. let's wait for the next cut. So the next cut shows up, then it got better. And then a couple days later, another cut showed up and it got better. And then another cut showed up. And all of a sudden it was like, and this video was getting exponentially better every time I'm like, why was it so bad? I want to see that first time.

Oh, dude. Yeah. Hideous. I was just like. Because the concept seems relatively easy. Yeah. Learn a couple lines, say it. Yeah.

Be your personality and move on. And, uh, that's crazy. Back then, bro. It's like... This guy? And it's great because we're only in the video. That dude was from the Sopranos. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. It was like, we're only in the video for about a sixth of a second at the end. And I'm like, this is wonderful. Yeah, I don't even think I'm in. It's just you and it goes to Mike or something. Yeah, and we're just sort of like, we look at the camera and just sort of point. And then they just off to the crowd. I don't know why, but I think the crowd was Dallas, was what I want to say.

yeah just there you go and boom yeah there's that's so rad there's Mike and that's it and that's it and then once I saw the final cut and I was absolutely blown away

I was like okay this is really good now and then you know I don't even think I ever asked them how in the hell how in the hell did you get all those people to agree to be in that like not even just the celebs but just random humans on the streets and we're like, hey, do you want to be in a music video?

I feel like the random people are the easiest ones to get. I would be like. You're going to be in a music video. What music video? Nickelback? You got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A couple lines. Play for me again more time. This is my moment. This one has had some bangers out there already.

So it's like, hey, Nickelback's making a music video. They do stuff like that all the time. I was at a subway in high school and some random person was like, do you want to be on an MTV show? I was like, yeah. Yes, I do. Absolutely. I'm like, what's the premise of the show? What do you need from me?

What's the premise of the show? And they're like, so funny. You call all the girls you've ever slept with. Yeah. And then you ask them how you were in bed. I was like, I'm going to have to cancel that. I'm not. My ego's not ready.

My ego's not ready for this. My ego on my resume. Were you allowed to tell them that you were on an MTV show? I think I did ask that and they're like, no. They're saying a cold call. I'm like, hey, so and so like, how was I? And they'd be like, buddy, you know how you were. You really want to relive this?

Right. From my point of you, you want to relive? to hear me say it from my angle? Yeah. Yeah, that was stuff. But people really just do stuff. I'm sure, I don't know if that show ever made it, but people will just say yes to anything like that. It's their moment, their time. Like, they're thinking, oh, I'm going to do this music video, and then I'm going to be

like the biggest actor of all time. Watch the way I sell these lines. Then they see that they're on the music video and like, and I hate you asked for a cut or anything. And I'm like, damn, no, I should have. You take it like you made it. I think it's mistaken my life. Yeah, I got a cigarette. You see that music video? Yeah, I was on it. I want to go back to when you were telling him about publishing and like giving people credit like you have to put the work in how do you guys make decisions

if you guys in an argument about a song and you're like no no no no I wrote this first and someone's like no no no I did like how do you guys work through that process of disagreement um keep gloves good question that's good question we're getting better at this so what we would do is we would take like a big screen TV and we'd put it up in the studio as as the lyrics start to be written. And all the lines go up. You know, even the ones that are just sluff. Like a brainstorm type session? Yeah. But it's all going down there. And like we, so what we'll do is this, I'll tell you how we break down publishing. All right, if you want to know. Every line is worth the same amount, whether or not it's in the verse or the chorus. If you get a chorus line,

that doesn't mean you get three more. It's like courses only count once. Right? Sounds like we're playing a game. I didn't, I didn't even know it. I didn't know this. You probably should have looked into this a little bit more. That's how we did, huh? Okay, maybe I should ask for a little bit more then. That motherfucker.

I wrote this line. Yeah, so melodies worth 25% chord structures worth 25% and lyrics are worth 50. And those 50% of the 50% of those lyrics are comprised of each line and each line in the chorus, right? I need each line on the bridge. And there's, so there's your total.

Right? So that's your 100% of the 50% of the, if you follow. And then we take a 20-sided dice and roll it. Yeah, play a game like Dungeons and Dragons broke away. I can't all out, dude. And we'll even do half lines.

Like you came up with the half-line. It was like, someone else came up with the first, you know, the first part of that line even. Right. And it gets cut up like very, very rarely. Has anyone ever said,

no, no, no, no, no. I came up with that and so I was, no, you didn't. I came up with that line. Have you had a situation like that? You've got to, dude. You've got to have a couple of times.

But you'll just like. Then you pointed it like Daniel. Daniel, I said that one, right? They're like, hey guys, leave me out of this shirt. But there's not only each one of the band members is in the room, but usually the producers there as well. And so that'll be the tiebreaker. Gotcha.

And he'll be like, I'm pretty sure Ryan came up with that one. Or whatever it is. And you have to let things go easy. in those situations because that's stuff that breaks bands up, right? Yeah, it's a very fragile situation. Sometimes it's like, okay, fuck, whatever, compromise.

Especially when you're growing at the speed you guys are growing at, like you guys are becoming so big, ego is getting away. Sure, they can. Some guys feel like, hey, listen. Not when you've been to, on the brains of this whole thing. No, it's not like that. We all know where our strengths and weaknesses are, right? We also ridicule each other relentlessly, so no one, if anyone's ego,

you're getting pulled down. You're getting pulled down. It sounds like you guys got a nice little concoction here. like that stuff's important because if you don't tackle that stuff and you let it go six months and then say, okay, well, who came up with this line, who came up with this line, then you can be in a little bit of trouble because then people can't remember and things do get a little hazy. And so that's how much, like, that's how it got into like you get paid for what you do. You're going to be in there and you're going to put in the work.

You're going to get, you're going to get compensated for it by way of publishing. And, you know, for us, that was just the best way to do it. Because if someone's just sitting on the couch playing video games, and he's like, I was in, you know, someone's like, I was in the room. It's like, what did you do besides level up whatever game you're like? Right. You know, besides.

Playing GTA or something like that. Exactly. So, you know, that was the big equalizer for us. It's like, you can't just sit in the room. You're going to have to have to have something figured out well because you guys have been at it and together for decades. You know what I mean? Like, bands do break up.

It's like you guys have found some fundamental things to sustain your success this long. There's sayings that we use too, and it's like better's always better. You can't fight tooth and nail for a part of a song musically or lyrically or melodically that you came up with just because you came up with it. Because better is always better. So if someone else comes up with another part and it is like, head. head and shoulders better than this other part. That other part goes, and I don't care who came up with it.

I don't care for. I came up with it. It doesn't matter. It's always for the betterment of the song. We're trying to give ourselves the feels by making these songs the best they can be. If we can't give ourselves that, how are we possibly going to give that to somebody else? You know what I mean? You don't do that by sloughing. You don't do that by just writing down the first thing you spit out of your mouth. You don't do that by, oh, it's the first little riff.

there you go, there's that hunk of crap, let's just put that in there. No, no, that's not where we're at. We're at this thing where it's like, we're going to put out some music, and this is going to touch somebody, this is going to affect somebody's life. This is going to be somebody's favorite song. And you have to think of it like that. That's, you know, we're not just sort of sitting around, we're not pissing around. Otherwise, why make any more music?

Why don't just go to tour the music we've got? So if you're going to get in there and do it, let's do a really good job and make sure that somebody out there's getting the feels. When do you guys go to make a song? You guys sit in a room, you figure out how do you start the process of making a song? Does it start with an idea?

Or do you like, hey, this is a cool title? Maybe we can go off of that. Like, how do both of you work through? Because my man's talented. I mean, he's the primary songwriter. He'll typically come up with the initial idea. It's all over the map, though. Because sometimes you'll have something written down.

you know and that's that's kind of how San Quentin started like I'm just like because I met the warden at a party and right away I'm just like Must have been an odd party Warden he's a lot younger than you would think

I didn't believe he was the warden like longest yard type vibe No no yeah yeah yeah You're going to play football first Chad Yeah yeah yeah he wasn't some old like crusty jaded it wasn't like Shawshank at all Okay that's yeah okay so we both in the same age of what I thought Yeah yeah it wasn't this dude was young and like I was like you're the warden for he's like I'm the warden for

San Quentin then everyone behind him's like like oh you oh you're actually the warden for San Quentin and then right away I'm like I'm going to write a song called San Quentin right just right there on the spot so that one went in the phone so you'll have like so there's a song title you're going off that first and sometimes you'll have the riff sometimes you have no like he had that riff for a while, right? I recorded months probably. Yeah. Yeah.

And all I had was this one line where I screamed, can somebody please keep me the hell out of San Quentin? And I knew that that was going to be the end of the course. And then there's other times where we're sitting there. What about animals? Remember it was the last, it was a riff, what was it called on the board? Did you don't dump dump da di-dee.

That was the name. That was the name. It was like phonetically spelled out. I like, I like the picture you coming up of that song like a dad walking and walking to the car. getting caught. We were going to film the video for photograph the next day and then we were going on

tour. Last day in the studio. Last day in the studio. It was amazing watching this fucking guy work. So we went downstairs. He started... This is what we just started to play. He ran through it maybe two or three times. Okay, that's a chorus, whatever.

I went to the mic and I went to the mic and I went... I'm not... I'm a... I'm like, I got it. Okay, I'm going to go from this. Yeah, you sat in your car. He took the recording of that.

I'm fired up. Hey, Will. Yeah, I'm doing movement, huh? Yeah, I'm like, you know, my mouse getting up, but I'm like, hell yeah. He took that recording and, uh, he... Are you humming those things? Yeah, so, lots of us jamming. Yeah.

He went out to his car and you played it in there, and he came back with all those lyrics. Like, got it. Yeah. Let's track it. That's probably, I probably sat in there for 45 minutes. And I just started. like, I don't know where I was going. I, and I said, I thought of Mike's carc's, his, his, he'd just gotten an old charger done.

And he kept saying it's black on black. And so I went right there and I went, I'm driving black on black. Just got my license back. I got this feeling and my veins's train is coming off the track. I'll act. You know, I just started, and I'm just like, oh, here we go. And I'm just like, foo, and this thing is like, I'm singing it again, backing it up. Yeah, he's in the vocal booth.

I'm like, where the fuck did you get this from? No shit. I walked back in the room, 45 minutes later, and I got, there's like scribbles and a Sharpie stuck in my mouth. I'm like, let's go, let's go. Straight in the booth. Joey hits record, and I'm like, whew, and off we go. Like, bang, sing the thing, packed up our shit next day we flew to hand. Yeah, you locked it in just like that.

That's it. It was so fast. That's fucking cool. That's cool. That is awesome. Yeah, I wish they were all like that because they're not. Some songs take three months. Oh.

So what on the flip side, how? does that work when it takes three months? So you get that writer's block. Like when you get stuck, how do you work through getting stuck? I wouldn't say it's writer's block. It's like, because saving me was six weeks. And we kept recording the chorus. And it just wasn't as good as the verse.

Because we had these verses, you know, starts off with that prison gates, won't open up for me. And it's like, and it was powerful and it's really good. And you're getting a vibe going here. And then we would record this chorus. And I'm like, no lift. right? This is no lift. Chorus is just garbage.

Like, just delete that whole thing. And let's just start again, you know, and record a whole other chorus. And like six weeks into it and frustration levels are going through the roof. And everybody's just tired of hearing just over and over and over. And finally, I did the...

Show me what it's like. And I started doing that. And then Joe goes, do that again. And then teach me wrong from right. And it's like, oh, there we go. Now we're running this. And those like, okay.

Now we, and it's just like, bang, you know when you got it. And once you got it, you got it. They're just tight boys. I know. But he puts on the chat. You know, like a J.B. That's awesome. That is hilarious.

Dude. I remember being high. school and people would think they could sing and you'd be in the car with them and they just start belting it. You're like, what the fuck is this person doing? You're the only person I've ever met that starts singing and it gets cooler. Like just like openly. The real thing. I'm like, holy shit. My voice is actually a little cooked right now. But like, I, you know, like I was, where was I? I was sitting there. I was in Texas. And, uh, ex-auls. Yeah. And, uh, something happened to the

hoilet on the jet. And it was plugged. There's something. It wasn't, we couldn't get, like we couldn't flush, like we couldn't pull everything out of the guts of the plane like your black water, right? Just like an RV, but it's just smaller, right? And this, there was this kid standing around and nobody wanted to do it. No one wanted to figure out because one of them, as soon as you got the thing open,

underneath the, underneath the plane, they're going to get covered in fecal matter in no matter what. Yeah. Sounds like a fun job. So I'm like, how am I going to get one of these kids to do this, right? And one of them knew who I was. And I'm like, I think if I can just figure out a way to get a story into a way where I can just start singing a little bit, I can get this kid excited and I can talk him into.

He's the salesman again. Again, dude, coming out. Yeah. The only person in the world is like, if I could just figure out how to get the sing naturally in front of the sky, he's going to pull this thing. So he, so he, I can't remember how I got the story there, but the next thing, you know, I was just like, well, it's like, you know, when you're in a writing session and I, you know, I start doing this, I'm the new standing line, the clothes I'll never get in. I do that one, and he's like, you know, I get him kind of singing along. I can see I can get, I'm getting excited. And, you know, I said, there's something else about with, with how you're in mind or something. And I, you know, and I did the, never made it as a wise man. And I get the, and I get him kind of saying a little. He's like, ah, fuck it. I'll get it. I'll. I'll. get underneath there and I'll get this thing up. And he climbs underneath there and he's doing this whole like

and like and I watched it happen to fooom and like the plug of toilet paper came out and he got out of the way. I'm like what'd you get? And he's like, I just got a little on my hand and I'm like I just like covered him in hand sanity and like you're good dude. Yeah yeah. I threw I gave him a hundred bucks and uh because

it didn't matter like I couldn't tip these guys enough to go and do this. Manipation activated. No question. Master Manipulator in the best way possible. I wanted these guys to do this because we had another I think that we were had another four hours that we were going to

I think we're going to Vancouver after that and I'm like we're going to need the toilet. We're going to need the toilet to work on this thing and like it was I figure out of way to get somebody to unclog this toilet. Dude, you're a hustler, dude. You really are like in the 50 minutes I met you. You are a absolute grinder.

It gives you back to that big pause on the planet. I'm sure I don't know as much about the hustle over here, Daniel, but I'm thinking you must have been going crazy the entire time early 2020. No, full disclosure. Yeah. Yeah. Like, no, because we'd been working so hard for like over 20 years up to that point. We never have that much time off in decades. It was like, let's recharge the batteries. I got fat. I drank a lot of beer. There you go. Operating saws and chainsaws and building

things. What are you doing? What did you? Exactly. Yeah. So chainsaw. If I turn on a chainsaw right now, I lose a limb. And every time, like if there's a big windstorm, you know, on the property and something goes down, like, and I'm just going to go buck that up into, I can hear mics. My brother's, the bass player, I can hear his voice in my head saying this. Why the fuck was Chad holding a chainsaw? You know, and I'm just like, and I hear his voice. I'm like, I'm just going to get a buddy to do this for a kid.

Yeah. So I'm like, I'm just going to put that down because sure enough, like that thing's going to kick back at me. and who something's going to come off. It's the pit bull of tools. It seems like you enjoy it with some beer. Yeah, but what are you doing over there? That's a horrible combination. Same thing.

I had a long... I had really fat. I had beers and chainsaw. I like to get a crazy combination of life. Beer and me and then... It's the start of a horror movie. Yeah, ATVs. Grab the husse, Farna, and let's do this.

Yeah. A long driveway. Lots of trees. Same thing, Windstorm. I'm not paying some guy $500 every time to come out. I can't even leave my house. A man's got to step. up and do it. I love that. I love

that. Dude, I used to want to be a handyman so bad. Now I've, like, accepted the fact I'm a domesticated cat. There's not a lot of shit I can do. I can figure out how to tell somebody how to do it. Like, I need to change this oil for me. But I can't even change tires. Me neither. You can't? You can't change a tire? No,

dude. I grew up in small town Arizona. Everybody in my town knows how to change a tire, not me. That does. I don't know how to either. It's embarrassing. Okay, so here's a bit. Okay. Who's producing this show right now? Back left corner, that's JP. Here's a bit for you.

You guys are going to, at some point in time, do a competition between these two. Here's the jack. Here's the tire iron. Here's the spare. And then you guys are going to film these two and figure out which one can actually like find the right jack point and not like...

And time it. And you're going to time it? Okay, time it. I don't know if there was timing to the jack. You have to get it under here now before you're going to die. No, no. We'd fail. We'd die.

You just want to play a game. Yeah. Six. Yeah. We need some... We need some supervision. Need some supervision. You need some supervision.

Bill's got to be there. No doubt. My dad doesn't know how. Oh, really? Maybe I spoke to... He grew up in a small town of Missouri. He might. He just know how to do.

It's my mom, dude. My mom... I don't believe the fact of the dad can. My mom would know how to switch a belt. Yeah. She was a savant, dude. I'm saying she did everything. Damn.

Oh, wow. Change the tie. If I had a flat tire, hey, mom, come out and help me. she changed the tire belt off the engine switch the belt dad just inside drinking beer bear no shot hey dad dad i know my dad's bill i listen too yeah my dad i think you're very confident he's gonna like this motherfucker sit with nickel back on the bus three doors down yeah yeah yeah drinking beer no doubt laughing there my dad's a tier one yeah he's out there dude bill really rolls to the boys oh no shit we got a roll then um is there

song that's made it that you were surprised that made it of like your hits. That was a great question. That's a great question. You're like, fuck man. I was like, I did not see that coming. Actually, mine was rock star. I didn't I was like, I couldn't believe it. Really? I knew it was a good song.

I didn't think it was going to be a hit. And still, we played in the arena. The whole place just lights up. Like, I still can't believe this song. I mean, before we got on the bus, I'll tell him, I was joking on Dale because Dale Jr. makes an appearance. And he goes, man, I thought I was big in NASCAR. When that song went global, he's like, it actually skyrocketed my brain even more.

Really? Yeah. That's cool. That's really cool. Five seconds on a song, made it bigger than ever. Yeah. So when the album starts and you hear that, do you get that, do get to get to get to go and again, digi to get to get to get to get to do.

So that tune right there, that's a tune right there. That's called Follow You Home. And I came up with this idea. Let's take a left turn in the breakdown. And let's ask Billy Gibbons from Zizi Top if he will play like a cool little Billy solo on this. I just got fucking goosebumps. So I fly down to this studio in L.A. And Joe comes with me and we've got to drive with us.

And so Billy comes down and he just does the whole thing. And as soon as Billy's hands touch the guitar, it's just like it does the thing. And you're just like, holy shit, that's just, that's Billy, just being Billy. And it's amazing. And so we get all that. We got all of it.

And it's cool. It's really badass. And he's like, what else you got? Like, what else do we, what else do we have? He's like, yeah, like, what else do you got? Kind of nervous about it. Like, what do you mean? No, like you tell him what else was there's somebody behind me?

Like, is there a deal? We got a lot, brother. No, but I didn't know. I said, I don't know. I said, Joe, what else? is on that drive. Like, what did we bring with us? And he's like, a rock star. We can play him rockstar. I said, oh, we got this little tune called Rockstar. We'll play it for it. We play on the tune. And he

loses his mind at the end of it. And he's like, that's a hit. That's a hit right there. And I'm like, dude, thank you so much. He's like, no, no, no. And he knew that I thought that he was just giving lip service, right? He's giving you flowers. And he's like, can I hear the song again right now? I'm like, yeah, of course. We play the song and he's just like, I'm like, you're loving it, hey? Like, you're loving this. And he's like, I said, do you want to be on the tune?

He's like, he said, I will just be anywhere you want in there. And so I'm like, what, okay, what if we did it like a call and answer? And we made you like the devil. And so I'm singing a way like I'll do anything to be a rock star kind of thing. And then you're going to do this. Tell me what you want. Dude, that is so funny you say that because I was listening to that song in the day. And I'm like, who the fuck is this guy?

That's Billy Gibbons. That's hilarious. That's hilarious. Tell me what you need. Yeah. And so we get all these calling ass. Boy, he has the fucking skulls. Yes.

He's supposed to be the devil. I'm learning this. I'm learning this. He's supposed to be the devil. You've learned how you've made money and the whole stuff. Yeah. So then, you know, we get to the second verse, and he's in the vocal booth. And I'm like, dude, we've got lots of scripted stuff.

We've got all that stuff. Give me some ad libs. Like, just start making stuff up. And that's when he does, like, the, I'll have the cassidia. You know, I'm like, you know, because I say that, you know, because I say that, you know, sign a couple autographs so I can eat my meals for free and that's when he does the I have the cassadilla and I'm like we're never going to use that line

and then the next time I played it by like so then we listened back to it and I was like that casadia line's fantastic let's fucking leave let's put that in there and the next thing you know he's our call and answer he's our devil for the whole bit right yeah and that's how he wound up on the tune that's so simple absolutely incredible

question you want to get off I'm trying to think I had one but then I got lost in the story I know you wanted to talk about, they talked about on KFC radio. You guys talked about in KFC radio. But the hate of the, the weird, why did the world, meaning hate of Nickelback?

Because I'll be honest, when I was in high school, people would be like, yeah, whatever, they suck. I'm like, yeah, dude. And in my head, I'm like, I don't know. Really? I'm a sheep.

Yeah, everyone was like, it just, it's wildly came out as like, hey, these guys said it's like, but you guys are still selling out stadiums. But I'm surprised because, I actually thought, like, in real life, everyone loved Nickelback. It was more of a thing that just kind of lived in the cloud.

It was a comedian. It was kind of like a made-up thing. Who did a bit and then lived forever on Comedy Central or MTV. Comedy Central, yeah, this guy just made this joke about us, which was whatever. It's just like, it's just a joke. Yeah, do you know the comedian's name? No, I can't. I can't remember it.

But he made the joke. But the thing was, Comedy Central took that. And that was the commercial. They played in between every bit for six months straight, was really. was ripping on us, right? Yeah. So if you've seen Beavis and Butthead, one of them's got Metallica

and one of them's got ACDC on, right? And when Stewart comes in and he's wearing a Winger shirt, the first episode that happened, Winger's career was over. Really? Yep. Done. The next day.

Like, they were toast. And that's the power of, you know, that kind of comedy element. Programming. Yeah. Yeah. But, so that's where really, that's where the undertone started.

The other thing is... Did it actually affect? No. Yeah. There wasn't a point where you guys were like, you see stuff on the internet. You see ten good things and it's great, but you see one bad thing and that thing usually sits with you a little bit.

But then everyone else is like, well, let's, you know, we want to get on this comedy bit too. It's all the memes start and, you know, I'm like... You holding the photograph. Yeah, but like... But we've also got... Yeah, yeah, this graph. I still watch that.

But that's our music. music and we can get that pulled off of YouTube any time we want. We thought that was funny, so we left it up. Funny's funny. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah, so, like, we think that stuff's hilarious. That's a humor for you to have. We just like, but you know, when the haters sphere really digs in, it's like,

well, funny's funny. And then it's like, if you're just being a hateful dick, you're just being a hateful dick. Yeah. But it's like... Working O.T. It felt like we got a ton of it until everyone else caught up. And then it was kind of like this blanket of shit. It's like, okay, well, everyone else is getting just enough shit now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Not just us. Like the keyboard heroes, they caught up on everyone else too. Yeah. But it was also the fact that like... These are trailblazers. Yeah. We'll go first.

Punch me in the face. Yeah, yeah. It's not that bad, boys. Come on. Jump on in. The water's fine. It doesn't hurt that bad. But then it also turned into that bit where,

you know, for probably 12 years, if you're listening to the rock station and you won to, and we came on and you don't care for the band, you're like, ah, I'm good. Same as all of us. We all do it.

Yeah. A band comes on that we don't care for. We all go, eh, I'm sick of this band, and you go to the next station, you can get away from most bands. You couldn't get away from us. You'd go to the next format. We're a hot AC, we're rock, we're alt. Everything. It was just

across the board. Like, I have been in my own car, heard myself, come on, changed the channel, and been on three, I had two different songs on three different channels and been like, getting paid young brother, getting it. That's a good problem.

That's a good problem. It's absolutely. Yeah, but at that point, I was like, oh, I get it. I get it. They're calling us right now. Listen, fellas, this has been... They're a new album. You get it, yeah. And the tour.

They came on the day. Definitely talk about. Sein Quinta, the skinny little mess. Skinny little. Bangers, two bangers on the album. But yeah, talk about the album and the tour quickly before. The years are getting pulled right now. No problem.

We got a new record out. It's called Get Rolling. Check it out. Like, it's, you know, if you dig the band, you're going to dig this record. We put a lot of hard work into it. And this is a good one for sure. The new. tour is going on.

Pre-sales are on right now. We've got Brantley Gilbert opening up for us. We're going across we're going across genres a little bit because he's rock country. Instead of us doing the same seven bands that we always

have open up for us, it's like one of the same guys. It's always them. I'm like, let's try something a little different. Let's do something different this time. So we've got Brantley on board. He He's cool as hell. Fuck, is he funny. He is funny as shit.

Really? We've been doing press all day with him. We did a full day in L.A., all these different, like, just getting content, content, content, right? And like, I'll tee him, I'll tee one up for him, and he'll tee one up for him. And we're just back. Like, we, it's like, we've got everybody in the room fucking cry laughing. That's awesome. It's really, really cool.

He's a really good shit. So tickets are going to be on sale on Friday. So make sure you get up there. What is that? Boom. There we go. then you can go to nickelback.com you can go to Ticketmaster.

You can go to all the Bridgestone August 1st. There we go. Boom. You gotta get you guys back on. You guys can change the tire on our tour bus. That's when the vlog can happen. Come on, boys.

Yes. Yeah, so get those tickets out this Friday. This Friday. This Friday. So by the time people are watching it, it's out, right? There you go. Tickets out now. Tickets are out now.

Boys, this has been an incredible hour. We want to do this again for sure. Awesome, man. Thank you. It's been an honor. It's been killer. So thank you so much. As always, like, subscribe. Rate five stars, big hugs, tiny kisses.

Awesome. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called,

Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We get to ask people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired of just a strong. wrong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick.

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