Bussin' With The Boys - Taylor's Journey Across America + CJ Uzomah Interview

Episode Date: July 27, 2022

Recorded: July 20, 2022 | Fresh off of a week spent with "Man of the Year" candidate Zach Wilson, New York Jets Tight End CJ Uzomah joins the podcast this week. When the interview starts you don't hav...e to wait long to hear the answer to the question the sports world has been wondering. But before the CJ interview starts, we get a solid hour of wholesome Will & Taylor vibes. Lock in boys because a lot goes down in this episode that you don't want to miss! Intro (0:00) Beach vs lake (5:00) Taylor's journey across America in VANessa (26:00) Shoutout "no free shoutout" of the week (59:00) CJ Uzomah Interview starts (1:15:46) Does Zach Wilson have that dog in him (1:16:00) CJ Journey from high school to the NFL (1:20:00) Chaos of NFLPA meetings (1:43:00) Playing with Joe Burrow (1:49:00) Best place to eat in Nashville (2:02:15) Journey to the Super Bowl (2:08:00) Field paint may have caused OBJ to tear his ACL (2:22:00) Tier Talk "Best Grade" (2:30:00) ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ----- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Chevy: Chevy Silverado - Learn more about the Chevy Silverado at https://barstool.link/ChevyBarstool Duke Cannon: Use code “Bussin” at https://barstool.link/DukeCannonBSS for 15% off your first order. WhistlePig Whiskey: Get your bottle at https://barstool.link/WPBWTB or at a local retailer Roman: Get $15 off your first order of Roman T Support at https://barstool.link/BussinRomanFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:17 All right, now it's for the beginning. So not back in the episode. So, baby. You ever heard of tanning bed? Yeah. Same. I did. I used to wrap a pan bed for real.
Starting point is 00:03:28 For like, you know when the girls would hit it when it's about to be like the homecoming parade or prom or something like that? Yeah, what's your homecoming king? If it, yeah. If my date was doing that, I would go with her and do it. And I put the little sticker on my waistline. You're lying, dude. That's so awesome.
Starting point is 00:03:43 The little Playboy Bunny. Yeah, the little Playboy Bunny. That's fucking me too. I did the same thing. No, I'm just kidding. I don't do it. Dude, I for real. When I was training for the combat with the boys,
Starting point is 00:03:53 it was like me, Zach Martin, Jack Mewort. a couple of dudes, and we're all like, hey, there's a reason why black dudes look so much more jack than us because they're tan. Yeah. Like, we didn't go to the tanning bed. Yeah. And then for whatever reason,
Starting point is 00:04:04 it became like a battle of egos of who had, who could tan the best. Like, oh, man, like, I have, you know, boys, don't get twisted. Like, you see this pale skin. I get tan. He goes, wow. It goes crazy. You're talking.
Starting point is 00:04:13 This is all of us. All of us is both people stout and off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we're all saying about how great we can get tan. So we go to this tanning place, and the lady is like, hey, you should probably start like three minutes. are really strong. You should probably start at three minutes
Starting point is 00:04:26 and then work your way up and then for whatever reason all of us are posturing. And it's like, no, dude, just give us 10 right away. Just give us 10 right away. My skin's built for this. My skin's built for this.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Yeah. Oh, I'm from Arizona. I don't matter. Yeah. You know? I fucking got in this tanning bed, dude. And no joke, I was in so much pain for the next three days.
Starting point is 00:04:44 The worst sunburned my entire life. Bleach red. I peeled it off like a lizard. I literally unwound everything. I had to restart a week later. There was a point. where I was in so much pain in my bed that I would have to put, I put lotion
Starting point is 00:04:57 on the wall and then like a bear rubbed my back against the wall because I was in so much pain. My back was just killing me everywhere. And you didn't have nobody to apply that. No, I was living by myself. I was all alone. No one was coming to save me, bro. I remember like, get up with that workout that I said like two hours of sleep, dying, bro. And it was like, there's only three days.
Starting point is 00:05:15 But what a fucking miserable three days. I've tan since then, but. Yeah, you have a good tan. And by the way, man, all tease and peace if you get a spray tan in the winter time. No, there's no way. You popped out with a spray tan?
Starting point is 00:05:31 Bro, your boy came out while I was real pale for one year and the next time I'm just super tan. Super tan. And here's what's going to happen. No joke, I would legitimately think about getting a spray tan during the season. However, when you sweat, the shit gets streaky.
Starting point is 00:05:44 That's true. Imagine your boy out there with streaky lines in his arm. You got verbally assault. Yeah. a while. Yeah, that'd be tough to come back from.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Yeah, that'd be tough to come back from. That'd be hard to come back from. You can't, the game's over. Yeah. God.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Dude, it's good to have you back. I mean, this is, this is the first one bad. I know, I know we grinded on a couple of them last week,
Starting point is 00:06:06 but this is, the boys when you can back. It's tough when you have to clap for yourself. That hurt me. But damn, it is fucking awesome. Be back.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I miss each of you in your own special little ways. I'm looking at each of you in the eye right now, and it's fucking, And I just have like a blossoming flower going off of my head. That's how happy I am when I see each of you. I love Jack's face while it's going on.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Yeah. Jack look, he was making the most icon the whole time. Icon track and smiling. He'd blow smoke up my ass. Yeah. He loves it, dude. He loves it. You look good, though.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I see you got a nice fresh cut. You're looking tan from being on Canada. You were on lake vibes the entire time. I love the shirt you got going on right now. You got it in Canada. Two X piece. And I do have to say, I'm glad you brought up the lakes because there's something we need to talk about.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Oh, man. I didn't give. like like vibes their flowers and I need to give them their flowers at this moment. JP, I know. But just listen. Going on the lake on a nice little tin or a mastercraft or a notique, whatever one you want to fucking go on, you get out there, people are having a great time. You take the boats, you tie them up, you have your own little redneck yacht club.
Starting point is 00:07:08 People are having a great time. You get a little toast. You jump in the water. You splash around a little bit. It is a fantastic vibe. Grilling, throwing out a line when you want to just because you pop on the tube. you pop on the tube and you realize you're 30 real fucking fast. The kids are having an absolute blast the entire time.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Your boy learned to drive a boat. And not only that I learned how to drive a boat, there's a little at Turtle Bay in Lake Country. Shoutout Turtle Bay, no free shoutouts. They have their own little dock of a little squad that hangs out there. And it's like these teenagers that that's their summer job where they dock and fill up gas for boats. And while boats are out, they're just diving in the water, playing, having a good time.
Starting point is 00:07:43 You could tell there's like some summer love going on in that little area. Like classic movie vibes And I go in the summer love man Summer love And they're like head guy I forget his name His older brother went to school with Talon So like they kind of knew each other in that way
Starting point is 00:07:56 He was like hey you don't need to worry about What's that? What's that? Yeah yeah no and knowing? He was like I was like Hey I've never driven a boat before He was like bro you're gonna be fine Like what you need to do is he's showing me a couple tricks
Starting point is 00:08:09 Yeah So every time I would come in I'd try to rip it and fucking Turn right into that thing And put it in all nice And the first three times I'm be honest almost had a woman. I almost put that thing up on the dock. I'll be honest. But
Starting point is 00:08:20 shit went well. After a while, your boy was parking that boat. I kind of felt like the king of the lake for a little bit. I was, oh, I kind of felt like I was like owning my shit. Yeah. Oh, I could get down with this life. I could live this a little bit. I could be up in the trees, look at a bear from a distance, cast a line, have a barbecue with the boys. I saw that video. I saw that video. So many bald eagles. The place you're at was. Oh, magical. Now all that being said. Hang on, hang on. Did you go ahead. Will. Did you? Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Boat waving. Bro, I went to the boat wave and I even tweeted it. Like, I'm going to assume it's a Canadian thing, which is weird because they're all overly nice there. Yeah. I waved at half a dozen people before I was like too embarrassing. I had to stop. They weren't waving back. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:09:04 You're outside of the state. Yeah, I'm out of the continental United States. We're out of there, you know? So I'm going to assume I want to go to Lake of the Ozarks with you one day, you know, hit the head person, priest or something like that. And I'll be waving every motherfucker out there. You know what I'm saying? But I don't, I didn't get, and I still will land on the sort of boat waves just a wave, homie.
Starting point is 00:09:25 And you're either polite or you're not when you're waving back. I wanted to move past it. Not everybody believes in Bigfoot either, but Bigfoot is real as well. Bigfoot is real as well. Now, all that being said, I'm glad I believe I bought a couple dozen of flowers there and I hand it to the lake itself. It's an amazing vibe. It still doesn't touch the ocean, boys.
Starting point is 00:09:42 There is nothing better than sand between. your toes, a little teaky type of bar in the corner, fresh mahi-mahi for the boys, a couple of tacos, a little too much sunblock, and then the next day, not enough sunblock. Flip-flops, long boards, bicycles, the whole kit and caboodle may be getting in the ocean. Take a dive, get real scary and get back on the boat as fast as you can, but it was worth it when you got back in the boat? You know what I'm talking about. It is a fucking vibe.
Starting point is 00:10:09 It's tropical. It's wonderful. It's sunny. It can even be cloudy, but God, bless America. There is nothing better than being on that ocean around that ocean and around those vibes. Just shout out ocean vibes. So how about you bought, you bought, so hang on. So you bought a, so you bought RV.
Starting point is 00:10:28 How's the drive back? Do we have time? Absolutely. Your trip home. Like, should we talk about that? Should we talk about our, do our shoutout, no free shoutout segment? Is this like a sendoff episode? Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:40 You go to camp. Obviously, people are listening. Now it's Wednesday. Subscribe everywhere. You're watching for the love of God's the most important thing you possibly do. You go to camp tomorrow. Like, this is the week you go to camp, but you go in the, this is where you go in the cave. You go into the cave.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Yeah, yeah. There's like, God, I'm going to miss the boys. I'm like, we will literally be here all year long. And I said, my man's texting me like he's going to Iraq tomorrow. Bro, I for real felt like I was doing that shit. I was like, man, I'm going to miss the boys so much. I'm, I fucking, I already feel it. And I was like, yeah, we're literally three blocks away.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I'm like, hey, I will. Yeah, I will be here. I will be here. I will be writing letters to the boys. I will be writing letters to the boys. We just built something beautiful, boys. It's been awesome. You're gone for a month.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I was gone for a month, and I missed more than a year's worth of shit to do. It felt like. It was incredible. So you come in, you come back, you pop on a couple of pods. You like the confused waiter out there, passionate out dishes.
Starting point is 00:11:34 And I'm just excited to be back with the boys. And I go back to camp. So it's a bit of a deal. I'm going to miss you guys. I'll tell the RV story, but it's a bit of a deal. It's a fucking, it's a journey. And I hope.
Starting point is 00:11:44 You want to go through all the details? All the details. There's only one way to tell a story. I'm with you. I'm with you. But I don't think you answered the first question. Maybe it's unanswered and we still got a... Am I going to be gone forever?
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yeah. Like Aaron Hernandez? Yeah. Is this like our send-off episode for Taylor 1? No. No, dude. I'm not fucking leaving. I'm staying.
Starting point is 00:12:04 I'm not fucking leaving, dude. I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving. What? I'm not fucking leaving. I'm not fucking leaving. I'm staying, dude. Here's what I think is a happy medium for the fans.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I don't need to be here for the whole podcast, but get in here once a week, nice 20 minutes with the boys, hit a shout out, no free shout, hit a tear talk, maybe talk about current events, what's going on, keep your presence, sit in the seat,
Starting point is 00:12:30 make you feel warm and cozy. Don't feel like I'm too far distance away from the boys. Because you know, Jackie, he gets nervous if you leave him alone for too long. You've got to make sure he's got some people around him. And I'd be doing Jack a disservice if I didn't, if you only got to see me on Sundays, God forbid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:44 My boy would be... You're like an absentee father recently with Jackie Boy. I know. I know. And look at him. Look how rogue he's gone. I got back the first day. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Uh-oh. Oh, God. I got back the first day and he was spouting off all kinds of shit. Like, it's his fucking... This is his show now. I think there's a couple things, though. Like, yeah, maybe spouting off, but maybe there's been a little bit of growth.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Like, Jack's been busting his ass. He's been doing a lot of good things for the boys. There was flowers given to Jack. That must be the phrase of the day with me. When you and I were driving the other day, we literally looked at each other. after Jack called me on my birthday. And we sat there and we're like,
Starting point is 00:13:16 Jack's looking. He threw a shot saying, hey, Beach Vives over Lake Vibes, because he was a Lake Vibs guy. And I'm doing what I can to just be away. I was. Remember he called and said,
Starting point is 00:13:23 like, hey, where's Will at? He brought me on the phone. He's like, hey, it's Beach and the point. He wasn't the point of the conversation.
Starting point is 00:13:27 That was like a side point. Yeah. He didn't just call for that. Yeah. But that was definitely a point he tried to make. Right. I think, I mean,
Starting point is 00:13:34 do we have any Lake Vive guys in here besides Will? No, Jack was the last one. world be able to be a lake and beach guy, but it just doesn't seem like you can in this bus. I know. It's actually the Yankees. You have to pick one. Yeah, but I feel like I'm easily persuaded.
Starting point is 00:13:52 So, like, if I go hit a really nice lake weekend, I'm fully back on. Oh. But I just came from the beach. So right now, I'm, like, I should have worn my Pukesh on necklace. Like, I'm riding the beach so hard right now. Oh. It's just unmatched. Oh.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I agree with you on that. I think at the end of the day, we forget. JP and I, we almost, we almost, through, Fists in Vermont arguing about the lake and beach. Really? We had some whiskey and us. We were going back and forth pretty hard. Whiskey will do some different to you sometimes.
Starting point is 00:14:20 And then Jack and I, we have a really good comment. He tells me, he was like, hey, I think I'm a, I was like, so, you're a beach guy now. He's like over there doing his work or something. I like sit down. I got my sunglasses on. I was like, talk to me. What gives? And we had a really good conversation about it.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I do. I wish there was a world where we could live in both. But unfortunately, what we've kind of done on this podcast is you guys. I got to die on a hill. Yeah. Which is a tough life to live because I'm not a big dying on the hill guy. Yeah, I know. We love to live in the middle.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Yeah. I love to straddle the line. Yeah. One foot on each side. But once there comes to- I disagree with whoever said something last. Right. But once there seems to be like a little competition about something that like competitive
Starting point is 00:15:00 nature comes out. Yeah. And you got to somehow whatever in our head win. I know. Speaking of, you've been taking a lot of L's on your talk lately. How do you feel? I disagree with you, brother. Really?
Starting point is 00:15:12 Yes. very heavily. I do think I took an L on the fast food talk, but obviously, like, if you listen to the episode, you know I'm like trying to pick different stuff. And remember, I really got down on myself for not picking dairy queen. And Dairy Queen was one that. I think we both missed our tears. But other than that, dude, I feel really good about where I stand on the tier talk list. Well, you know how I feel about how you handle your tier talk, which we don't need to go into. There's nothing to go into. You have this facade on how I do tier talks. I don't think like... I don't believe the facade's... I think you get bummed out.
Starting point is 00:15:42 when you see the results when a tear talk happens and you're like, I got to come up with something. I have to, there's got to be a reason Will's winning other than just actually beating me. No, you're sent, dude. You're like, it's not like a big thing where. Whatever you got to say, brother. Get it out.
Starting point is 00:15:56 There's no, there's no reason for me to come at you. This is your platform too. If you have to vent about something. No, but there's not, I know my boys about algorithms. I know my boy spends about 13 hours of the day looking at how many numbers are popping up, how many sales are going, how the bus and stuff is going.
Starting point is 00:16:13 So you're learning more and more about what people like and dislike me. I'm more, I don't know, I don't try as hard. I'm more like, I'm more like, yeah. I would say I probably, you know, I know what I like. And so when I put that out there, I think, and a perfect example is the sports movies, I put out what I believed were, in my opinion, the best. I think your opinion was swayed what you know the public will like more
Starting point is 00:16:45 and that's just an opinion and I'm not trying to come up the boy. I don't know, you know. I think it's easy to say stuff like that because I'm kind of doing well in the social like putting stuff out there. You're murdering it. Yeah, I think that's easy to say.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Like I look at numbers, I look at that. Like I'm just myself. No, listen, I'm not going to take away from the fact that you're absolutely murdering the bird game. You are fucking, you're him. You're him. I'm saying. Hey, the, when you post that photo, that's them.
Starting point is 00:17:13 That's them. When we're holding up our jerseys. Yeah. That stuff is so funny. That shit is hilarious, dude. And you legit, like, you take that, you take the bird on as if it's, it's your sporting event that day. Like, you take it, you take it into, that's work. I put a jersey on.
Starting point is 00:17:26 I put the face bag on. Like, it's, it's. Yeah. You go, you do a full dynamic warm up and you go and play ball. Yeah. Yeah. No question. There's no joke.
Starting point is 00:17:32 There's no joking about that. That's what you do. That's what Will Compton does. Yeah. I open the app. I'm like, how do we get this going today? And you do a fantastic job. Your boy does try a little too hard.
Starting point is 00:17:42 I'm not trying to keep up. But low-key, it's not my bag the way it's your bag. Like, that's fucking Will Compton in a nutshell. Try to disarm me right now. There's no disarm me. Don't try to disarm me right now. Yeah. A second ago, I'm trying to think, how do I weather the storm?
Starting point is 00:17:56 I felt like I was trying to weather. Now you're using that weathering and you're fucking disarmory. No, I think you're fantastic. I think you're fantastic. You're so fantastic that maybe even subconsciously, that's why you're picking things that you know the Gen Pop's going to really like the most. No, bro. There it is.
Starting point is 00:18:08 There it is. That's all you needed. And I'm not trying to be mean to you. I'm just trying to tell you what the deal is. Please tell me. Go ahead. Please tell me in my sports movies. I like to put my hat. Which one that I think that I chose for Jen Pop?
Starting point is 00:18:21 I think knowing our demographic is very much a football demographic. You put two football movies in there when in reality there really only needed to be one. Because in my mind, when I'm doing my tear talk, yeah, there's a lot of great movies out there. Everyone knows I'm a big hockey guy. Everyone knows I play football. Everyone knows the sports I'm kind of about. But I didn't want to like lose myself in one genre of sport. I wanted to make sure I had hit a few of them boys and make sure everyone knew.
Starting point is 00:18:48 I can't help that's what's inspired me the most. And the number one on my charts was a boxing movie. Yeah. Which is I think the number one sports movie of all time if you look at just numbers. Yeah, but that's my like. Which is what generally, right, is the number one thing. Yeah, but I love fucking Rocky. And I don't disagree with you.
Starting point is 00:19:06 I'm not choosing Rocky. because I think everyone's going to be on my side. I'm choosing Rocky because I live and die by that shit. Yeah. Like, here's the deal. With your tier talk, I think they're fantastic. We're not going to go into how three movies are in your tier one
Starting point is 00:19:20 because we've already had that conversation. It felt like Rocky, fantastic. Remember the Titans. It's a great movie. And I think what you do differently than what I do in Tier Talk, I go with, for the most part, what's affecting me the most right now in my life. I don't go back and jump back to when I was 8, 10,
Starting point is 00:19:37 12, 14 years old, and have that feeling of nostalgia. You like to play the, you like to play into... What movies have inspired you the most. Like, I think Remember the Titans is a fantastic movie. It's fantastic. It's been overplayed so much to me. I now, being 31 years old, think the movie's overrated. Because I've seen it 300 times.
Starting point is 00:19:58 So that movie for me is like, I wouldn't put that in my tear talk. I think it gets too much love. That's very interesting. You can say you watch the movies 300 times because you enjoy it. And now of a sudden it's overrated. Friday night. Night Night Lights isn't even as good as remember the Titans. That's why it's a three and not two.
Starting point is 00:20:12 But that's not giving away to, I don't know, Miracle is the first movie that pops in my mind. Miracle's a great movie. Like, this is Tear Talk. At the end of the day, it's not like I'm saying, these are the only movies that work. These are the ones that has done it the most for me. The speeches.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I know if you look at those, if you look at all these movies, ignore your boy Foster in The Night's Tale. That's fucking hilarious. That's hilarious. The, your three movies, have more name recognition than any other movie on here. Your three movies would be one, two, three name recognition. My movies, and I don't want to talk about his movies,
Starting point is 00:20:47 my movies would not be that. Warrior, hang on now, Warriors are very good movie. It's a very good movie. It's outstanding. And Caddyshack has made an appearance on two of those three lists. Yes. But if you talk about sports movies, and you're talking about immediately what sports movies are the best sports movies,
Starting point is 00:21:02 a lot of time people are going to go away from the comedies. They're going to go more into the serious stuff. like remember the Titans, a goon, a Friday night lights, those types of things. Rocky, that they're going to have more of a serious connotation about them. Now, we can see here and argue about tear talk all day. Like I said, you're doing a fantastic job. And I think you're playing the right fence. I think you're doing, I'm going to keep doing me.
Starting point is 00:21:22 I think that's what's getting me is you're saying that I'm playing a certain, like, I'm playing a fence. Right, but the only person that knows the truth about you is you. So why even get mad about it? Well, because you're trying to put me in different boxes. So I think I'll discuss that with my therapist. week. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Maybe you should unlock that away. Yeah. Put away the mommy, daddy issues for a little bit. There's no mommy and daddy issues. Oh. It's friend issues. Oh. Hey, my friend keeps saying this stuff about me and they really, it really triggers me.
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Starting point is 00:22:27 I like to put a little bit of bitters in there. I like a little orange slice in there. I like that big, giant square-it-off ice cube. Overall, I give that thing a four-point. and you give it a dash or something else when you put your favorite whiskey in there, which is Whistlepig whiskeys. You always put that 100% rye whiskey in there.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Dude, the spiciness of the rye is the perfect cocktail mixer. And did you know that they made their own barrel-aged maple syrup for it too? I didn't. I really didn't know that. But now you know, dude. How do you give 100%? Get your own bottle at whistlepig.com or at a local real tailor. Trust us on this one.
Starting point is 00:23:03 It truly is 100% of it. the good stuff. Yeah. And remember when I was telling you when we were out there learning about 100% at Rye Whiskey? Yeah. Like why it's always such a big marketing plur for them. Well,
Starting point is 00:23:13 we learn that all you have to have in your whiskey is 51% Rye. That's 53%? 51% and above. Okay. The claim that you're a Rye Whiskey. Like there are a couple brands out there. Won't say their names. Very credible brands.
Starting point is 00:23:24 But their Rye whiskey is like 70-something percent. Whistle Pig, one of the OGs in the Rye game, they are 100% Rye whiskey. So that is why they always advertise that they're 100% right because the majority over 90% are, it's not 100% right. Right. They're getting off on minor details. Correct.
Starting point is 00:23:42 More than anything else. I think that is important for people to know as they see that. So now they can tell their friends like, hey, what you're drinking, probably it's not 100% rye whiskey. If you're a right person, unless it's a whistle pig. Right. So if you're seeing somebody and they're not drinking whistle pig and they're like, oh, I'm a rye guy.
Starting point is 00:23:56 And it's like, well, are you really? Yeah. I know what you're drinking right there is probably not 100% rye. Let's look it up. Let's Google it. Yeah, you're probably 52% right guy. And then you're fake. And you're a fake ass.
Starting point is 00:24:05 motherfucker, dude. I like that, that, dude. Drink whistle pig. So drink whistle pig. It's delicious. And subscribe to the boys. Now, I'm having a hard time
Starting point is 00:24:12 here navigating what to do next because I can tell you about the trip. It was a bit of a deal. Or we can talk about Patty the Badi, who was an absolute fucking stud. God, I know. And we got a shout-out, no free shout-out segment.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I know. So we got about a 45 minutes ahead of us. A three-hour pod? I mean, it could be, but we need, like, the Uzama one. The Zach Wilson's stuff, it's outstanding.
Starting point is 00:24:42 It's sitting up there for us. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So let's talk about Patty the Batty. We'll move on. We don't talk about the van. I'll move on from the van. Do you want the van?
Starting point is 00:24:52 I don't know. What do you guys want? What do you guys think? Oh, no. I'm more than willing to talk about it. It's just a bit of a story. It's a bit of a story. Yeah, it's about a, I mean, probably a 15-minute story if nobody talks.
Starting point is 00:25:07 It's a bit of a deal. Like, if nobody says a word and, like, it's a bit of a story. let's Taylor go on. Like, it's a bit of a deal. And, um, I'm not, I get spark notes as much as possible, but I won't really get that Verado. It really needs. Maybe you spark noted and if we feel like we need to know what a detail is.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Rado the word. Verabo, verado. Ravado. Ravado. Ravado. Bravado. It's bravado. Not varado.
Starting point is 00:25:35 What? What does bravado mean? He's got a bravado about it. Yeah, yeah. It's like a bass. Like a bass. It's got a tone to. it. Like a vibe. We're pro vibes.
Starting point is 00:25:44 We are very much pro vibes. Some more than others too. Tell you when I catch you up a good little good vibe dude, go hit up an ocean. You're nearest one year. You probably have the best time of your entire life. It's outstanding, dude. Lakes are good too though, dude. Lakes are good too. If you can't get to the ocean, get to your nearest lake. Pro water. Fucking pro water out here. I'll just do it, dude.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Because the longer we sit here, the longer. We're just going to wonder. Essentially you bought an RV for, what was it? Like $8,000 Canadian, which I believe in turn goes to 7,300 USD. Now, your boy was... What was the brand of RV? It was a Chevy. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:26:20 It was a Chevy. Now, I will, before we get any into the story at all, dude, I'm going to give a massive shout out to the 350, which is probably the most reliable engine or the household name engine of the Chevy, the GMC Chevy, whatever it is. This is a carbureated engine. 350 is a carbureted engine that you can get into a fuel-injected-in situation.
Starting point is 00:26:44 It's not what I'm going to talk about. That engine itself, there was a couple hiccups along the way. Nothing had to do with the engine. Everything else had to do with other parts failing out on me. But that engine held strong for 2,371 miles. Uphill, downhill, big twists and turns, 55-mile-an-hour cross ones in South Dakota. That engine held up and went strong for me, and I can't thank them and Chevy enough for not only in the 76 bringing us an amazing.
Starting point is 00:27:10 amazing vehicle that everyone is going to love to camp in, but also a vehicle they thought, hey, in about 44 years, some little dipshit's going to go put this out and try to go across country. I want to make sure he's going to be all right. So shout out to Chevy one more time. Should we have a moment? Yeah. Moment of silence for the Chevy, greatest brand of all time.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Of all time. Let's do it, boys. So I'm saying Lake Country, BC, all right. The main lake there is called the Okanagan Lake. The Okanagan is home to a very mysterious creature. called the Ogopogo. And there's actually a $2 million bounty to anyone that can find the Ogopogo. Such a high bounty indeed that the Japanese, just all of them, came over and put a submarine
Starting point is 00:27:53 in the water just to try to find the Ogopogo. No signs, but there are still pictures of this day. So if you're out there in Lake Country, go hunt away, my people. Yep. This is one of the deepest, longest lakes in North America, not including the Great Lakes. It is a fantastic fun time. Your boy is right on the Okanagan Center. That's a road that connects.
Starting point is 00:28:11 It is right next to. the lake and on the other side is hills and mountains and beautiful scenery. I am cruising down on a road going left and right on about a 35 kilometers per hour. So those are you that's doing the math, that's like 10 miles an hour. I should move slow as hell over there, dude. It's wild. I hit this hard right corner. I look off in the distance and I see a beam of light flash through the trees. It's about 2.30 p.m. And I see this gorgeous van sitting in front of me. It's shadow everywhere and is just highlighting this manila with an orange streak and brown streaks around it, van.
Starting point is 00:28:45 And this glorious thing as I look there, I go, damn, everybody in Canada either has a Winnebago or is saving up for a Winnebago. It's kind of like the bomb mitzvah for people in Canada. Like when you become a man, that's when you have your camper. I look at it, I'm like, hey, I had to immerse myself in this culture. I do the same thing when I was living in Arizona with the Michigan. I got a little northern accent about me. Came down to the south.
Starting point is 00:29:08 try to put a little south little twang in my voice and now i'm in canada what can i do how can i fit in the most it's by a camper lucky for me this beautiful piece of machinery was for sale i cruise up i go up on the hill i go into the guy's driveway i'm not going to the man the man's name is john i say how much for the van he goes it's nine thousand dollars i said in my head what a sucker i go through this thing is an absolute time capsule 76 and you think shad carpet you think of the the green and brown and oranges in the interior. It is everything and more you would think. Talking about flower wallpaper.
Starting point is 00:29:45 It is just an absolute beauty of a time capsule. You walk in there and you say, my grandparents probably fucked in something like this. And that gives you a warm little fuzzy feeling in your heart, doesn't it? I look at the man. I shake you stand. I say, I'll see you back there tomorrow. Now there's a whole other story about how my wife tried to trick me
Starting point is 00:30:02 and making me think it got sold. When they did a horrible job selling it, I ended up catching her on it. Long story short, $9,000, daily trying to heckle the man down. I bought the van. 81,000 miles that thing is. You guys are probably going,
Starting point is 00:30:12 well, too, it's in Canada. It's probably made in Canada. It's probably got kilometers. Canada didn't go to kilometers until 1983, ladies and gentlemen. So this van is at 81,000 miles per hour. I cruise on down to K-Town. That's what I call it. K-Town is K-Tonah.
Starting point is 00:30:28 It's about 200,000 people. It's got good vibes. It's got a nice little hippie vibe about it. There's also a bunch of skids running around there, skater kids, a lot of lake vibes. People are just having a good fucking time out there. It is an absolute blast. I think the boys would really enjoy going out to the bars and have a nice little
Starting point is 00:30:44 pita pit over there or something like that. Little Cactus Club lettuce wraps, which absolutely will. You, dude. Well, absolutely, you. So I go, I bring this down to this dude named Chrissy's working at a Napa auto shop. I say, Chrissy, I need you to help me out, buddy. I need to get this engine all dialed in because I'm driving at 2,371 miles. She says, I don't got nobody open for about two months.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Sorry, bud. Guess what, dude? Your boy doesn't give up on no. Your boy just takes no as a maybe and we keep on trudging forward. Fast forward 15 minutes later, Chris, he's shaking my hand saying, hey, how can I help you? He tells me he'll take the van. He'll make sure everything is dialed in.
Starting point is 00:31:17 New spark plugs, new bands. Oil chains, the complete tune-up. You need new tires. It's on a duly, which means there's six tires, so we're going to throw six tires on that boy for you. Now, the next thing going in my head is, it's nice out here. There's not a lot of adversity in this weather.
Starting point is 00:31:29 What does Taylor need to do next? That is get an AC unit put in his van. I take the van. I got the windows rolled down. I got the little, on the old school boys, you there like a little triangle, like an obtuse angle. You turn them, so it gives you a nice little vent right in the crotch region. I put that boy on Highway 93 and I cruise back up to Lake Country from Ktown. That's about 25 minutes away. There's a place called Voyager. I go into Voyager. They give me the same old song and dance. Hey, but we can't do this for you. We're booked out into August. We're booked out into this, and that. Your boy doesn't take no. He takes it as a hard man, but we
Starting point is 00:32:02 start talking wheeling and dealing about 15 minutes later they say to me what can we do for you bud they end up putting a 9300 bt u ac unit into my van now those 9300 those of you who are like big ac buffs i know the 11 000 is a big one and the 13000 is a big one in the 9300 is more of a unique low profile type of deal your boy hey when you're beggars you can't be choosers i'm a cake eater myself but i couldn't in this situation so these cats get me the 3rd 9300 cost a little extra because it's more of a unique style. They throw on a Cummins generator in the back. By the way, shout out Cummins.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Absolutely unbelievable. I know it's a D. product, so fuck you, but Cummins, they did a great job on their diesel engines. They also do a great job with their generator. That thing kept me going for a while. I bring it all back. We get this thing done.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Your boy is leaving on a Sunday. I think, you know what? If I can do this 35-hour drive, which is driving straight, by the way, no stops or nothing, I can do that in 48 hours. I'll be happy. Well, I don't know if it was God.
Starting point is 00:33:02 I don't know if it was a voice over my shoulder. Maybe it was my wife repeatedly saying, hey, Taylor, you're probably not going to make it in 48 hours. I decide to myself. I'll leave Saturday, give it a buffer so I know I can work out a little bit. My chef, my friend, Jason Russell, says to me, I've never traveled cross country. I'd love to do that with you, bud.
Starting point is 00:33:21 I said, but come on. I'm going to need somebody. Your boy, he gets scared of the dark anyway. So, I mean, if I'm sleeping a night, I'm being nervous. Jason jumps on with me. We got a whole plan. Things are not about to go the way. I wish they went.
Starting point is 00:33:34 We get on the road. Now, those of you who don't know anything about the northwest of the United States and I guess the southwest of Canada, very treacherous. You're going up hills and inclines that no one has ever seen. It's ridiculous. You got big grades. Semi trucks are gearing down and doing all their 14 gears bullshit they do. I'm on the road.
Starting point is 00:33:56 I'm going up towards big sky. Nope, that's in Montana. What is this place called? It's a ski resort just outside of K-Town about 25 minutes. I go and I hit the road and I'm going through Rutland, which is my personal favorite part of all of K-town. I get on the road. I'm going up an incline.
Starting point is 00:34:14 The speed limit is about 120 kilometers an hour, which, for those are you wondering, 60 miles an hour. I am hitting this incline at barely 35 miles an hour. Barely, dude. And I'm fucking giving her. After about 10 miles of doing that, we finally plateau, level off, and head our way, down. Takes me about three hours he gets the border for anyone who is driving a normal vehicle.
Starting point is 00:34:37 It takes me about two. It takes them about two hours to get there. I run a stop sign going into the border. Now this gentleman, his last name was Hill or something like that. Very short individual. He had the nice little coldest that going on. Had a strong list on him. Had a real strong list where you almost couldn't take him serious at first. But he tells me, flow down, flow down right now. Gives me the big stop sign. He starts thinking, I think this man's going to be an asshole to me. I'm at the border. we start playing the game like who are you how do I get to know you and your boy you I Wikipedia you know I put I put it on the man told me hey listen what do you
Starting point is 00:35:11 know no I didn't he goes what are you doing the States I go I'm going back to Tennessee is what you do in Tennessee oh I play professional football I play professional football he's like no way that's so thick and so we I get out of the van I turn the van off he walks around the corner and gets in the camper he's like do you mind if I look around I know those of you who deal with the place on a regular basis goes, Taylor, you know you're right, don't let him look around. Your boy ain't got nothing to hide, homie. Jump on in there, Bub, if you want to join the road too with us, we could always use somebody to ride three.
Starting point is 00:35:42 So he gets in there, he's looking through. But at this point, he's more excited about the fact that I play professional football, so we're going to talk about that for 15 to 20. Your boy goes to start his van. Whoops a daisies, the van doesn't fucking start. He comes, but this guy's also a mechanic. That should have been right then and there, the moment where I said probably should head back to Lake Town or K-town and call it a day. Not me. I thought, just as mine are bumping the road,
Starting point is 00:36:07 let's keep her going. So I finally get the vehicle started. I'm heading towards Spokane, Washington. I'm going where, you know, Spokane, Washington right into that small sliver of Idaho, and then I have to go down through Montana into Bozeman and then Billings and then so on and so forth. We'll get there as we go. As I'm going up towards Spokane, I hit a 10-mile, 8% grade. which is not very much at all, semi-trucks are absolutely whipsing by me like it's nothing. I'm getting wind vortexed into the corner wondering, am I going to even fucking make it out of this, bud?
Starting point is 00:36:41 All of a sudden, Vanessa decides that she no longer wants to run for a little bit. She's going to take a nice five to ten. So I start puttering, and the peak of the mountain, I can literally see where it plateaus is tenth of a mile away, because now we're back in the States. I can stop using kilometers. I get off on the rail guard,
Starting point is 00:37:01 and me and me and uh jason start making lunch me as in jason starts making lunch it's absolutely beautiful outside it's the the scenery's incredible and i'm thinking she's just overheated she'll be fine everything is good 30 minutes goes by 40 minutes goes by so on and so forth you're like holy fuck dude this is a long time is this going to work finally crank it she goes i rip it down we get through spokane without an issue in the world we keep going through idaho your boy drives all the way to Bozeman, Montana by 4 a.m. I'm feeling good about what's going on. I know the treacherous roads are slowly going away at this point. But after you get past Billons, you're really starting to hit that plains territory. So in my mind, those boys are home free. I'm in Bozeman. I've seen
Starting point is 00:37:44 Yellowstone. I want to have a good time. Me and Jason take a walk. We start, we in the morning, get about three hours of sleep, decide to go to a motel, pay about $150 for a room just to get a nice little shower in. Later, finding out, for those of you who are doing cross-country drives, If you go to pilots or a loves gas station, you can literally, like, grab a ticket that says, like, you can take a shower. So there's 150 bones out the window. I think Van Nessa is doing an absolute... No, no, that's a good team. Yeah, fantastic job driving.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Not a pilot's and loves, baby. Shout out loves for real. I'm a love guy. Vanessa is doing a fantastic job driving through the town. People are giving the eye like, holy shit, what a fine piece of machinery. I started to get on the road. There's now, there is a town between Bozeman and Bill and. is called Big Timber.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Occupation's probably 17 people. We are driving, all of a sudden, we start hitting a hill. She's not giving us any love at all. So I pull over to the side. There's one house that looks like within 10 miles, and it's terrifying. Trestpastas will be shot,
Starting point is 00:38:46 blah, blah, blah, and don't know soliciting, all this stuff. So the idea of going and knocking on this guy's door and asking for some sugar is probably out of the question at this point. I think it's overheated. Not a car guy. We're all looking down the barrel of a gun knowing at this point it's probably the gas pump.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I didn't know that at the time. Now I do. It's not going. It's not going. Finally, she turns back on. We start cruising. We get to Bay Timber. Bay Timber is about three gas stations and a taxidermine store.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I would have been more excited except for the taxidermine store was closed because it was a Sunday. I'm at the gas station. There is a shady, shady massage parlor right in the corner. And then on the other side, there's a gift shop that sells a bunch of like ironed forged stuff, which I thought about buying. We are broken down at this pump at this point. Vanessa wants nothing to do with the drive anymore. She's tapped out.
Starting point is 00:39:34 She's done. I'm angry as all get out because I'm like, is this really hell the rest of my day is going to go? In my opinion, I'm getting to Rapid City, South Dakota before the end of the night. That wasn't happening. Three, four, five hours go by. As we're hanging out, cars keep going and going, coming and going. However, there's a bunch of motorcycles still sticking around. Then these dudes start coming out with vests that say bad sevens on the back.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Now these dudes that have bad sevens, I'm walking the gas station, I'm getting my funnions, my funnions and some bean dip trying to make it through the entire day. These boys are staring me down like either I'm a hot piece of ass or I might be a threat to their gang. Either way, your boys getting fucked one way or another. I'm very nervous right now. Show them your 77 jersey? Nope, did not show them nothing. Like, hey, I wear sevens too, boys. Dude, they pull up.
Starting point is 00:40:17 I'm sitting at this gas pump and the bad sevens right up. Their motorcycles are around the van. And I'm sitting in the van. It won't start. and they're just staring at me. And I don't know what to do. So I did what any good Christian would. I put my hands on that steering wheel
Starting point is 00:40:32 and I just faced forward, act like they were not there for about five to seven minutes. No joke, five to fucking seven minutes, which is a long time. And they finally, they laughed and drove away. I am like, probably should get the fuck out of here, dude. Now, with a carbureted engine, when you need to help start it,
Starting point is 00:40:50 there's a spray you can use. You put it into the air filter. When you do that, it helps the ignition start getting the gasoline to the carburetor into the engine, which helps everything move. So I finally, for whatever reason, see this. It says, help start. So I grab it, I spray it in the air filter.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Bang, bang, boys, we are out of there. I'm about 37 minutes from Billings, Montana. It is about 4 o'clock in the afternoon. I thought at this point, I'd be way past Montana into Wyoming and maybe through a little bit of South Dakota. That's obviously not the case. We start driving again. In my mind, we're good because it's just a, It's just a heating thing.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Once we level out, it'll be no problem. But now, Vanessa is having an issue of on straightaway. She's giving the full-v-v-v-v-thing. And I'm like, what the fuck are we doing, Vanessa? I'm starting to get mad at her. I'm starting to yell at the vehicle, which I should never do. Right. Because they're trying their best.
Starting point is 00:41:41 I pull over to a rest stop 15 miles outside of Billings, Montana, and I've quit. The game's over for me. I turn on the Jenny. I have the AC pumping. I'm in the top little part where my little bed is. I'm tucked in. tarp off, just some underwear on, and I'm just looking at my phone,
Starting point is 00:41:56 wondering what the hell have I gotten myself into? How am I going to get out of here? 10 minutes go by, nothing. I got the engine up. The little hood from the engine is up. It's sitting there. 15 minutes goes by, 20 minutes goes by. I might as well take a nap,
Starting point is 00:42:11 and then we'll figure out a way to get the villains and we'll fly home tomorrow. All of a sudden, there's a knock on the outside exterior of the van. We're at a rest stop and butt-fuck nowhere. I'm thinking to myself, the bad sevens have finally caught up. to make your boys going down and i'm yelling timber so i get out of my little crow's nested i go through i open up i open up the door i cruise around the corner and there's just unsuspecting gentleman with
Starting point is 00:42:35 he's got a little bit of a will compton pre pre veneer teeth thing going on he's got a little bit of weather to his face but you can see that the man's been been there he's been doing it and he goes um what seems to be the problem and i go well you know all the things i've already told all of you find people as i've been talking it does this when i'm going uphill and if i're I forget over 55 miles an hour. It starts bogging on me. And as I'm starting to tell him all these things, he goes, oh, and it does this.
Starting point is 00:42:58 And it does that, blah, blah, blah. So I'm thinking, yeah, this guy knows exactly what he's talking about. I'm like, how do you know? He goes, oh, I live in Alaska for two years with the same exact van. I know the issues you run into. So I'm the same exact van. Oh, my God. I'm going to help you.
Starting point is 00:43:10 I'm ready to pack it in. This man, Keith, pulls out a, it's like a Chevy Volt or something like that, dude, opens the back and starts pulling out tool machines like it's fucking like clowns coming out of a little car in a circus. He has all these tools, all these things. But the caveat to this whole thing is he's making me take off and move all the stuff so I can learn. In my head, I'm like, just give me the damn fish. You don't even teach me how to fish right now.
Starting point is 00:43:33 I just need to get this shit done so I can get home. He has me taking this little small part off. It's the gas filter. I pull that. He says if that's hard to blow into, then it's the gas filter. If not, you probably have a gas pump issue or even more issues after that. I end up getting this thing off. It takes me way longer than anybody would ever expect to take gas filter off.
Starting point is 00:43:52 I get it off, I blow into it, clear as a whistle, not a problem in the entire world. So the guy goes, well, it's probably your gas pump. You go into town. Everything is closed right now in the morning. You shouldn't have an issue. And the only way to find out if it's really the gas pump is just drive 30 miles an hour on the highway or drive 30 miles an hour for 15 minutes. And if you have any issues with the engine, then it's not the gas pump, it's something more intense. But if it does nothing happens, that wear and tear, it'll be totally, then it's like saying all things are pointed towards the gas pump.
Starting point is 00:44:22 I had this dude named Keith. He's literally a God's saying. Shout out Keith along the way of this whole thing. Unbelievable gentleman. Literally out of nowhere. I go, why'd you... I'm preparing my entire life for this moment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:33 I go, why'd you stop for us? He goes, oh, I gotta be in Cheyenne by the night, but I was just driving past and I saw you guys. So I got off the highway at the last exit and drove back this way. Now I thought I'd just help out real quick. Oh my God, man. Shout out Keith, bro. So...
Starting point is 00:44:47 I mean, that's the MVP of the trip. Oh, just wait, buddy. Just fucking wait. because we're not done yet. We finally get the Billons. We go 30 miles an hour on the highway, getting wind vortex by every single semi-truck there possibly can be.
Starting point is 00:44:59 This is a big busy day on for semi-trugs on Sunday. Apparently, they don't go to church. I get the Billons. We know it's now the gas pump. I sent out a Hail Mary text that all of you saw, like, hey, if anybody's in Billings could help me out, blah, blah, blah. The amount of numbers that came in DMs
Starting point is 00:45:14 to give love to the boy was unbelievable. You people were unreal. What do you mean, you people? You people were unbelievable sending those DMs, help me out. This gentleman, his name is David. David said, hey, I'm working at a Chevy dealership. We can definitely help you out tomorrow. We open at 7 a.m.
Starting point is 00:45:32 I said, but I'll see you then. Stop at B.W. Give myself some Parmesan garlic wings because your boy's feeling a little defeated. And we need to eat our feelings around here. Go over to this RV village, which just screamed assault. It was a terrifying place. I'm 6, 7, 310 pounds. and I thought,
Starting point is 00:45:50 someone's going to try to take me tonight. That's how bad it is at these little RV spots. I plug in. I get about six hours of sleep, which is the most. I'll get the rest of this trip and go see my ma'am.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Go to the Chevy dealership. The boys are fucking hyped that I'm there. I send a little tweet, hey, if anybody wants to come and say, what's up? Well, I'm here. You're more than welcome to him at this place, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Dude, cops start flocking in. The cops start coming to see me. This dude looking like a cop, cop's cop, dude. He's got a fucking hard, fade, that big little fucking wisp over the side, sleeve tattoo, and a chew.
Starting point is 00:46:25 I talked to my man for 15 minutes, Blas, didn't spit once. The guy's a fucking stunt. So he's talking to me, he's a big guy, he's a big bustling with the boys guy. Now, another gentleman came to see me as well. He's got a red hair and a red beard. I cannot remember his name for the life of me, but he was so incredibly nice. He brought
Starting point is 00:46:40 Sour Patch Kid Watermelons, which, not just the bag, but like a family-sized fucking bag of this. He also brought me sour skills, which he said, I know it's your tier two, but I got it for you. Brings me a loaf of cinnamon bread. And he's like, hey, anytime you're in Montana, this is the shit. Like, you need to try this stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Unreal. And brings me a bottle of Montana, Montana whiskey. Legend. And I'm like, dude, thank you so much. This is unreal. He leaves, 45 minutes later, comes back and he goes, hey, man, I was super starstruck before. But I'm, I'm calm now. I'm like, all right, cool.
Starting point is 00:47:10 He goes, I brought you something else. And it gives me a fucking Montana belt buckle that is so fucking, it was just super dope with him to do. And he gave it to us. for the ride, it was unreal. Now, back to the vehicle. They figure out real close. My man, Stu, is the general parts manager there.
Starting point is 00:47:28 He's been working there for about 23 years. Stu is a fucking stud. He looks exactly like you think he would look, but he is a fucking stud. He rolls that vehicle around back. He starts ripping and going and get all these things done. He goes, yeah, it's the gas pump. No problem.
Starting point is 00:47:42 We'll order one right now. They order the gas pump. Someone goes to the auto shop, grabs it, brings it back. Wrong gas pump. No, beggy, just 30 minutes off my drive. I'll be all right. These boys are helping me out big time. They go, you get the auto part.
Starting point is 00:47:55 They grab it, they come back. And it's the same one. It's wrong. They didn't do it right. So I tell my boy, Davey, David Point, I believe his name is. He, uh, I'm like, hey, just give me the thing. I'll go pick it up. They hooked me up with a nice Chevy Silverado.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Your boys in the vehicle felt great to be able to drive over 50. The crew's over there, get there, get the part. Come back. They slap that baby on there. They'll be out of here in 15 minutes, but no problem. They turn the vehicle on, now the vehicle doesn't even want to turn on. We got issues, squad. So here's the deal for those you don't know carbureated engines.
Starting point is 00:48:26 The gas pump pumps gas into the carburetor, which allows all the pistons and shit to work. Okay? Okay. So when the carburetor isn't working and the gas pump is, it won't even turn on. So what they told me was, is you need to redo the entire car.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Either get a part for tomorrow, a carburetor tomorrow, and put it in, or they can rebuild the entire carburetor. They rebuild the entire carburetor. tire carburetor in a day, it takes me, it takes them until 6 p.m. at night. So I go, I get a hotel, I crank myself off a nice little workout, get about a two hour nap. You crank one off a real too? I did. Yeah, let's go. When you're stressed, baby, you got to do what you do. Yeah. Yeah. Now this story gets interesting. So the boys, the boys finally hook it up, dude. Six p.m. gets done
Starting point is 00:49:13 and I'm out of there at 6.30. 20 minutes down the road, same fucking shit in the van starts happening. dude. I am fucking living. I call David. He's got my personal line at this point. Call him. He calls Stu. Stugose carbureate engine 90 degrees. It's going to happen like that. Just keep on fucking going, which is music to my ears. Run her until she's dead, boys. That's what you got to fucking do in a carbureated engine. I start going, sure enough, the weather breaks under 90 and it's smooth fucking sailing until your boy gets to South Dakota. I'm in the reservation. It is, by the way, we need to do a, I'm not going to get into details, but the reservation, we need to start being a little bit nicer.
Starting point is 00:49:52 We need to start helping stuff out because it's a fucking not a good look for us as Americans. Yeah. You know, it's just not a good deal. There is, in South Dakota, not a whole lot. But what there is is a whole lot of wind. So as I'm driving, there is 55 mile an hour crosswinds and no one on the road. I turn off the lights at one point in a straightaway just to see how dark it was. You can't see a fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:50:15 There is nothing out there. I stop off. I have a video I'll give to you guys that you guys can put up. It is, the wind is insane. I am on the vehicle, I am straddling the white line and getting pushed left to right and 55-mile winds on a two-lane highway. So I'm taking all of this road. There's no cars anywhere to be found.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Semi-strucks are parked over on the side because it's too windy. We're top-heavy as well, but we're not near as heavy, which is a huge issue. End up stopping at this place called Mara, South Dakota, behind the show. shitty little area. It was God awful. And got about two hours of sleep. From there, get back on the road. We're cruising and bruising.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Dude, I stop in Nebraska. I think from this point forward, we're fucking good. I'm in the show me state. Let's fucking do this, dude. I go through Omaha, I get about 20 miles in, starts boggut on me a little bit. I decide at this point,
Starting point is 00:51:07 I'm not going to blow half a tank. That's not going to happen for here on now. I stop at this place that are cooled down because it's the dead of heat. It's about 97 degrees outside. People in Nebraska, nice as can be. Get myself some
Starting point is 00:51:18 little barbecue at a gas station. Shit, my pants about 20 minutes later. That's okay. I ate the food. Did you say, go big red? If someone were to say it to me, I would have said it back out of just being nice. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:31 So these people, wow, I'm fucking running out of words here. I fucking, we get back to the gas pump. We check the oil, everything. And now, there's like a cloud. Not an actual cloud, but there's like a cloud in the area. And this fucking
Starting point is 00:51:45 charlots. Webb looking fucking emo thicker pale witch looking girl is kind of like
Starting point is 00:51:58 circling the van Spooktober Spooktober She's just From me to J.P. Which is 10 feet As I'm in the van by myself staring at me
Starting point is 00:52:07 smiling, winking doing all the clichés Come fuck me, Bives. All the cliches. I'm like, yo, what is this chick doing? She waddles over to the side of the vehicle
Starting point is 00:52:19 and ask me if I have a lighter. I said, no, ma'am, don't have a lighter, sorry. My head, I'm like, well, you smoking near a gas station anyway? I'm a responsible adult. There's no way I'm going to do that. She gets a lighter from the other dudes that are right next to her. She walks away. She's about two pumps down, but she keeps turning and giving
Starting point is 00:52:35 the boy them eyes. And I'm like, dear God, I thought. You've been on the road for a minute, so you're kind of. You know, hey, I'm a trucker now. That's my lot lizard. I'm a little bit. That's my lot lizard, dude. I'm thinking I might have to because if not she'll put a spell on me
Starting point is 00:52:51 That's kind of what I'm feeling She looks everything like a witch dude I called her the black widow Because she'll probably eat you after she's done fucking you What'd you do? So we check the oil As I'm checking the oil She kind of creeps up behind Jason
Starting point is 00:53:02 I can see her in my peripheral vision She's just staying there As if she was checking the oil with us the entire time I get back in the vehicle And she walks up She goes Can you guys give me a ride Dude I'm 6-7
Starting point is 00:53:14 I'm 310 pounds of tattoos over my body and Jason's got a bald head and a little bit of chin hair. He looks like, you know, probably wears pillowcases over his head sometimes. You're going to ask for a ride from these two dudes. You're going to ask for a ride from us. But what do you think, like, you're just asking for? Where are your parents, young lady? I tell her, no, I got to pick up my wife.
Starting point is 00:53:35 And she goes, well, I got to pick up my kids from Sunday school. Totally flip my script on everything. So she... You want to leave the door open. So you wanted to change it up. Not my wife, my kids. I got to pick up my kids. Bro, she fucking rolls her eyes at me
Starting point is 00:53:49 and turns and walks away. Instead of warming up the van at all, I fucking turn that bitch on and we ripped out of there, dude. 10 hours and 52 minutes later, your boys laying his head down in Nashville, Tennessee. 2,371 miles. It was an absolute fucking deal going through all of that.
Starting point is 00:54:09 It was too much. Probably won't ever do it again. But fuck, I love that van. And that's the story. Thank you. That was, what, 25? I think that was 25 minutes. Holy shit, dude.
Starting point is 00:54:23 That was too much. Gift of gab. You're a great storyteller. Were you interested the whole time? Yeah, because that was the second time I've heard it. So there's a couple times. Like, it's been a longer day, so I was getting a little, like, sleepy. But, yeah, you're a very good storyteller.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Thanks, fine. No. I didn't mean that, like, a back-handed compliment. I'm just saying, like, I was in it the whole time, and I looked around at the boys. And the boys, you hear him laughing throughout the entire story. I was on the most part. just working
Starting point is 00:54:47 You just knew he was about to have the floor and this was going to be Like that could be a movie I literally the entire time Like I'm picturing stuff in my head You paint a very You painted a phenomenal picture
Starting point is 00:54:58 I'm thinking about You're getting it animated Right I thought I was thinking that too Like I like spitting chicklets Will animate their stories They could easily
Starting point is 00:55:08 The way you were painting Some of that picture Just the fucking hue Of the shadows Behind the van With the orange stripe And everything else What did you say?
Starting point is 00:55:15 Manila with the flower wallpaper in the carpet like green brown and whatever you said Grandparents fucking like you can literally You can put yourself in this van You can listen for the first three minutes You can literally smell what that van smells like without And I still haven't been in it
Starting point is 00:55:33 Old Grandpa I'd like to think that the was it the dirty sevens The old seven the bad sevens I like to think that what they were trying to do By circling around you is they're all like spitball And like what the issue was for the van and if you had jumped out, it would have fixed it in like three minutes.
Starting point is 00:55:49 But instead, he just said it like this, so they just laughed and I'm like, okay, I think this guy's a little freaked out. And they're like, hey, like, no, you needed this part. And they're like, well, whatever. And they just ride off in their night. Like, he doesn't help this guy. They start walking. He just takes off going, no, get out of here, get out of it.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Like, hey, we got it. All right. We got it. All right. It was a crazy ride. It was a crazy ride. It was so much fun. And Keith.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Shout out Keith. There's a hero that shows up in every story in every movie. It was him. Keith was that guy. Like every hero starts to doubt. Like, all right, let's pack it in, let's give up. They all want to stop, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:22 But there's always somebody, some mentor that comes in in the middle of the story that sparks that new flame. And that's Keith, bro. Yeah, it was Keith. Incredible, dude. Crazy amount of fans of Billings. I was getting, like, DMs from, like, local Billings news channels. That's phenomenal, bro.
Starting point is 00:56:40 I saw when you put that tweet out, I was like, I'm going to retweet it. Who knows how many people's actually out where he's at? I have friends. Somebody can help the boy, like. Bro, there was so many dudes. And it was like, my DMs were, I think after an hour, like there was like 200. And I was just going through it. And I saw one of this that said Chevy.
Starting point is 00:56:56 I was like, this most reliable shit you can ask for. It's unreal. I got a picture outside of the Chevy, like, of everybody. Like the sales team and the mechanics and the van and the big Chevy sign in the back, dude. Oh, bro. It was bitching. And the dudes, the sales team, they had this thicker hula girl, little bubbling Hula Girl and they gave me as a present
Starting point is 00:57:17 to drive and she had a little sharpy black eye. Yeah, it was a little parting gift, dude. So fucking, what was it, Danny Menholt? Danny Menholt Chevrolet and Billings, Montana. If I ever go to Billings again, which the answer is probably not, but if I ever am, I'm going to stop by and say what's up to the boys. They were unreal.
Starting point is 00:57:36 It's fair to say these tier ones and tier two's created and welcome some new fans of the podcast probably. What I'm picturing is, if they had to build a carburetor and everything else, like your van was there all day, and there's probably a lot of other people locally that got their vehicle pushed back on the back burner because everybody was all hands on deck for the van. At one point, every single mechanic was circling around my van.
Starting point is 00:57:55 No other vehicle was getting worked on. When I first pulled up, it was like, like you sound like a fucking NASCAR pit stopping that thing, dude. Guys working, rolling, doling, everybody's wiping their hands, every chance they can get. They're getting after it. And then like 30 minutes into my van being in there, they were all about it, dude.
Starting point is 00:58:10 I had my helmet with me, fucking letting dudes try it on and stuff like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. letting the boys be a part of it, dude. No, he's not just a footballer. He's got this podcast, too. Let's go. And the crazy thing is, the dude that helped me out, Davey,
Starting point is 00:58:24 he wasn't even really a fan of the pod or the Titans. He was a Vikings fan. He was like, I don't even know about the podcast. I'll check it out. His boy, who's a Colts fan, hit him up and was like, yo, this dude, blah, blah, bust with the boys, Titans player.
Starting point is 00:58:37 He needs help. And that's how it word of mouth. A Colts fan. A rival. A Colts fan. That's being for the boys. That right there is an exact. of what being for the boys is out.
Starting point is 00:58:47 We can root for our teams in the season. Yeah. But outside of the game, outside of those white lines, dude, you're for the boys. All time. The shit was all time, dude. That was a great story. I appreciate that. I was wondering if I was losing you guys at all.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Did you ever feel like you were? Yeah, at one point I was like, I just needed to trudge through this a little bit. You got a stuck. You were, we were in K-town for a while. I was like, oh, man, when are we going to get on the road? It's like, we're going to hit the road here. Bro, just that getting that van ready for the ride was a fucking story on its own.
Starting point is 00:59:17 It was ridiculous. But I love that thing. You know what? Right now, if I went to my backyard, I turned that thing on, it would start up no problem. Vanessa is all time. Welcome to the family, Vanessa.
Starting point is 00:59:28 I can't tell you that. When you pull into my house, you'll see it right away. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, it's in the driveway. Do we hit our favorite segment? Our favorite segment of the week?
Starting point is 00:59:41 Yes. Now you're back, too. like it's just a hits a little bit different. So do we let Jack do it and see if he can perform right now? Oh, like intro the segment? You want to intro it in? It's up to you. You're back.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Yeah, but you did a pretty good job. I was kind of proud of you. I appreciate that. You know you. I learned from the best. I got a lot of words in, too. But sometimes you don't slow down for nothing. Ladies and gentlemen,
Starting point is 01:00:05 welcome back to our favorite segment of the week. Shout out. Oh, got up. of the week. And now finally checking off the demographic box. We got Blas. Hernandez.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Don't let yourself get stuttered out. Buddy, you're going to be just fine. Will, look away while he's talking. Don't make eye contact with him. I know you're going to send us in the atmosphere. Let's have a hell of a shout-out. Shout-out of the week. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:31 So my shout-out this week. Have you ever been late trying to get somewhere? I'm sure you guys have, right? So I was running late today to an appointment, and I was worried that I wasn't going to make it on time. So I was driving down there, and I know that there's a lot of red lights leading up to this clinic that I got to get to. I show up to the first red light. Like what this is going?
Starting point is 01:00:52 It looks like it's going to stay red, but I start to slow down, and then it turns green. And I was like, ooh, let's go. Ooh, let's go. Get to the next one. Same thing happens. It's green. I end up hitting green all the way to the clinic and make it with five minutes of spare. Five minutes to spare?
Starting point is 01:01:10 With five minutes to spare. And you told fucking the iPhone maps to fuck itself to. Because when you put it in there and it says three, four minutes, you're going to be three, four minutes late. And you prove it wrong, which doesn't happen very often. It's a game. It's a fucking game. It really is.
Starting point is 01:01:24 What an outstanding start to shout out of the week. Next up our boy, the Miltf Hunter, Jackie Boy. Let's hear, baby. What you got? So I kind of. Play over the weekend? Yeah, dude. What's the deal, homie?
Starting point is 01:01:38 We really did run. We really did run into some interesting character. Parking that beef bus and tuna town, Ken. What's up? But no, it was pretty normal weekend. But I hit it on it earlier. And I also tweeted about it. But my shout-out, no-free shout-of-the-week, goes to one of the most elite lunch meals on this planet.
Starting point is 01:01:57 And that is the white bread and turkey and cheese sandwich on the beach. It is something special about being out there in the sand for, like, three, four hours. A couple beers, couple cocktails. hop in the ocean, you get back out, you're a little, you know, feeling a little hungry now, and then you go, oh, shit, that cooler, you open it up.
Starting point is 01:02:17 And we also have a couple surprises for both of y'all. Shout out to Yeti. They sent us some pretty badass coolers for you guys. Really? And they're here at the shop today, so after this, I'll show you guys. Oh. Yeti.
Starting point is 01:02:31 No, free shot. Sponsor the pod. You know, here's the deal with Yeti. Also, I try to do a little deal with them. My first couple of years in the league, but they didn't, they said no, because of my character issues. So it looks like we're going full circle in the Yeti boys.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Let's fucking go. Yeah, so, but yeah, there's really nothing like that elite, it's got to be a white bread sandwich, whatever you're like a Wonderbread. Yes, that's exactly what we have is Wonder Bread. And it's so perfect. Throw a couple chips on there, squish it down. Oh, dude, that chip is a sleeper too. That could have been its own shout out.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Honestly. But yeah, that is my shout out. No for the start of the week is that elite Oceanside, white bread, turkey and cheese sandwich with some Doritas on top. Holy fuck. That was very good. That was fucking outstanding. I'm still a little hung up on this Yeti thing because
Starting point is 01:03:18 the way they treated me the first couple of years. I would absolutely love if they sponsor the pod, though, right? Donald Trump hands. I would love if they were to sponsor the pod. A lot of good people over there, Yeti. Yep, there's a lot of cooling over there. A lot of coolant. Next up is the man who's wearing a shirt that I don't necessarily agree with.
Starting point is 01:03:33 But for the most part, when my man is on the mic, he does a fantastic job. of paying the picture of the gentlemen, Mr. J.P. Thank you, sir. Oh, my shout out, no free shout out. I'm notorious for leaving my headphones whenever I go travel. And it sucks. Amen.
Starting point is 01:03:51 You just sit there in silence. There's a baby crying, and there's no escaping. Probably rue. But every now and then there is that one person when you sit down, and they're just like the best person to sit by. They're entertaining. They're giving you good conversation. You might even have a little deep conversation.
Starting point is 01:04:08 with them. So my shout-out, no free shout-out, goes to those good people on the plane who can keep you company. Yeah. You don't have headphones. That two-hour stranger, dude. That fucking two-hour stranger on the balance, right? There is. The majority of time you don't want to be in conversation. You don't want to be in the conversation. That's a very specific feeling. Well, yeah, my, the who I'm thinking of, it was this like 19-year-old that went to Lipscomb and then his little 11-year-old cousin. Vietnamese descent, American bred, American raised. The little cousin, 11 years old.
Starting point is 01:04:44 American bread sounds a little racist, doesn't it? Lilbo. Lilbo? He's a rapper. Oh, no shit. He's 11 years old was showing me all of his stuff. It was so funny. Dude, that's fucking all time.
Starting point is 01:04:54 I had a situation like that from Chicago to Nashville, and we were flying back from Michigan, actually. And the dude and I talked for, I don't know, a few hours, or however long the flight was. He was awesome. I had a great time. walked away from that experience, all smiles. I absolutely love it, dude.
Starting point is 01:05:11 I fucking love it. Next up on the list is the merchman himself. That dude that comes in with that hot, hot heat. Do not forget to go to, was it, barstool slash store? Store. d. Barstillsports.com. Store. slash, say it again.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Store. dot barstlesports.com forward slash with the boys. And if you look at some shit that was probably out, I don't know, let's say all of 2020. And you go, this shit fucking hints. This hat will be out there eventually. There's a couple of new branding shirts we got out there. That is all. all our man who's up next, Mr. Garrett himself. Let's hear it, baby.
Starting point is 01:05:42 All right. My shout out is going to be to an experience that Jack and I had this weekend. I'm going to shout out this kid at the beach. Oh, Ivaldoubt. Our name is Sarah and we pig roasted her. His name is Hans Simmons. What? Nicknamed Han Simmons with a Z. Him.
Starting point is 01:06:01 We were throwing the football on the beach. He's 12 years old. Kid was an absolute freak. put our boys on skates. I was playing QB so I didn't get embarrassed. But he moths our friend Bobby, and we took off down the beach, got up, got hype, and he comes over and shows me his Instagram,
Starting point is 01:06:20 so follow Hans Simmons on Instagram. Spell that out for us real quick. H-A-N-D-Z Simmons, S-I-M-M-O-N-S. Going to the league. It's not for sure playing at a serious stadium on Saturday. Oh, for real. real? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:38 You try to sell them in Alabama and, uh, kind of see, boys? We, we did a little high school recruiting first. Where's you going?
Starting point is 01:06:45 I don't know. He needs to transfer up the lips coming, that's you're saying? No, we didn't. One of our boys, Rob. Yeah, Rob, one of our boys coaches at CPA.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Oh, no way. Did he was really like that? He was like that. Holy shit. How did you get up? Like, how are you growing up?
Starting point is 01:07:09 That's man hanging out the 12 year old. What's up with that? They were camping next to us. And you know, you're in the water, you're drinking and you're like, oh, throw me the ball.
Starting point is 01:07:16 I'm going to show off this kid. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but the kid ended up showing off himself. Oh, yeah. Now, how was your arm? It was money. That boy had a rocket. The ball was underthrown.
Starting point is 01:07:23 He went up and got it, came back. It was nice. You cover him? Oh, all day. All day, every day. Twice on Sunday. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Yeah. Yeah, line it up, hands? Yeah. Yeah, so he, he's like, smoking our friends. and his dad's like, yeah, his nickname's actually hands. And our friend's like, oh, fuck. This kid's actually a freak. Comes over and shows me his Instagram.
Starting point is 01:07:45 He's got like 4,000 followers. His whole feed is just highlights, seven on seven. It's just cooking kids. 4,000. I don't know if he shout out is to hands. To hands. To hands. Having those hands as well.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Oh, yeah. Fuck, dude. That's a decent one. Not usually you get a stranded individual in Florida. Love, have you guys been in Florida, right? Yeah. Fuck. Pretty all-time stuff.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Yeah. I mean, that's, yeah, we just, we might have put them on right there. Yeah, for real. Hey, you're welcome. Your first scholarship offers, you're welcome. Yeah, we just gave them a free NIL deal. They'll probably get an offer from Nebraska and Michigan
Starting point is 01:08:24 right now. There we go. There it was right there. Next up is the best man on the bird will come. Let's see what you got, baby. Tell them what the people all want to hear. All right, so my shout out, no free shout out. Sandwich is going to go to,
Starting point is 01:08:38 so you're on your way to the airport. You know you're cutting it a little close, like always. You get there. I personally get there probably in between 50 minutes to 60 minutes before takeoff. And you might survey the line. The line could be longer. The line might not be longer. Either way, you're thinking about, okay, how quickly can we get through security?
Starting point is 01:08:58 I think I'll be all good. When you're going through security and you start unloading into the trays, into the bins, and you hear leave everything in your bag and don't take your shoes off. And then you just get to walk through security. Shoes on. You feel like you're breaking the law. Like, I'm about to walk through here and everything's going to go off. Nothing goes off.
Starting point is 01:09:20 But leaving your shoes on, leaving everything in your bag, you don't have to itemize stuff in the tray. That is my shout-out. No free shout-out of the week. Dude, that's an outstanding one. I appreciate that. Thanks, guys. That's an outstanding one.
Starting point is 01:09:32 You know it's a special move, dude, when you get out there and you're running on a time crunch and they say, hey, no shoes. You're fine. Sir, they even reassure you. Sir, keep your shoes on. vibe goes fucking so up. Because you know. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 01:09:44 My bitch, we made it. It's a good day. Yeah. For real, dude. That's an outstanding one. My shoutout and overshadow of the week is going to piggyback off of one that happened a couple weeks ago. My man Will Compton talked about that nostalgia feeling when you put that jersey on on a Friday afternoon. So everybody in that fucking community knows that you and the boys are going to fucking war.
Starting point is 01:10:06 7 p.m. Be there. Everyone who's anybody who's going to be there, dude. For me, Chaparral is the bird cage, dude, the rowdiest, rowdiest student section in all of Arizona. But for me, there was a little layer. I don't know if Willie got to ever enjoy this. That layer for me was not only would you be rocking them sevens on Friday
Starting point is 01:10:24 knowing I'm the fucking man around this part, you had your practice jersey and every single week, it wasn't just allocated to one individual. But you let you let her wear your jersey. Hey, I know we've been talking for a minute. And you want to wait till you're married. but if you want I would love if you could
Starting point is 01:10:44 wear my practice jersey on Friday and boy, they get fucking hype so hype that they would low-key start showing off to all their friends acting like they're better than everybody and you would see this, you'd see that and register it'd be in your brain now
Starting point is 01:10:57 and you go, this can't happen again. So what happens next week? She goes to lay that handout as if it's just coming to her like it's nothing like another bowl of porridge. Nah, sir. I wouldn't pass that jersey not just me, but other individuals as well.
Starting point is 01:11:09 give it to somebody else, maybe even her same friend group. So my shoutout, no free shoutout is the free advertisement. Of having the practice jersey. You're like letting the girl wear your practice jersey. It's a nice little move. You see, it sounds like if you witness somebody to take having the practice jersey on it, they take it for granted, florn it a little bit. It's for granted.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Right. It was never about, you know, being that guy towards girls. It was about, hey, this is a privilege. This is a privilege not right. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like they get a jersey. There's only about 50 of these boys out here.
Starting point is 01:11:46 For us, because we talked about this on the phone and where it was different, it was letterman's jackets where we were at. I feel like probably a lot of people might be letterman jackets, but Taylor made a good point. Arizona's hot as shit, and nobody's wearing their letters. So it's the practice of jersey.
Starting point is 01:12:01 My question is, what's that practice of jersey smelling like? Because I know what I do with my practice jersey. Like, that thing was never, that thing was washed maybe before the season started and then after the season started. Yeah. That's basically you got it, kid.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Oh, shit. nasty. And they're rocking. I think Loki'd be able to stand up by itself. You don't know what I'm saying? Stiff and stale. But they wear it, dude. Fucking shout out, dude.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Shut out. Who would, who would wear my jersey? I don't want to say names. Still close. You'd be given your letterbin jacket out? Yeah. What's her name?
Starting point is 01:12:38 I mean, a couple different people. Yeah. But I want to give free shout-outs. You know, what about on this podcast? Respect, respect. Respect, respect.
Starting point is 01:12:46 You know what I mean? That's a good one though. Anytime you bring him nostalgia from high school, I feel like that's just a fucking winner, dude. It brings you back to good time. Yeah, dude. High school was the fucking best. You know what I was talking about my wife about?
Starting point is 01:12:57 It's how I'm 31 now. She's 29. Happy birthday, by the way. We didn't get to say the birthday. Yeah. The birthday boy, Taylor, he's 31. Appreciate that. This is not a birthday.
Starting point is 01:13:07 It's more like you're getting the point where you're like, you're definitely not a kid anymore. You're getting older. It's like there's no slowing it down. I know, man. You can spend money on. doing like facials and shit. Yeah, I saw the facial I got in Canada, yeah?
Starting point is 01:13:20 Oh my. Your boy had that ream on his face, dude. That fucking thickness, dude. Oh, man. When I put that up to you, when I put that fucking picture up, I go, I know it's about to happen here. I just put my, yeah, that was the hard stuff. Did you have an idea that it'd be like that when you put it up?
Starting point is 01:13:37 I knew it was going to be bad. I knew it was going to be bad. The thing I felt most bad about was knowing my teammates was going to have to endure that. Like, they were going to get texts on the side of screenshots going, man, this is your boy? This is your fucking boy out here? I got that. Did you really?
Starting point is 01:13:50 Cam Jordan hit me up. Like, hey, the DM from the Saints? Yeah. He said, hey, explain this. Bro, the Camden fucking text me himself if he wants, dude. I'm just saying. That's crazy, bro. But yeah, I knew that she was going to go down.
Starting point is 01:14:06 But, you know, you kissed the dude in Vermont, so I guess it's all good. Yeah, dude, that's fucking... I was caught off guard by that kiss. Bro. Would you do it again? Yeah. Nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:20 That's crazy. It caught me by surprise. I did not expect that, and I want to say, like, by the sound of it, it seemed like I kissed back. Maybe your eyes were close. Like, the way I was sending up, we did that photo. You guys were sitting there. We, like, did that photo to where we're kind of like looking at the whiskey. Like, we're all excited.
Starting point is 01:14:41 They got a photo. And then he kissed me on the cheek. And so Fights was in a. that photo. So we brought Fottleberg back over. And we're like, hey, like, I was like, hey, let's remake this photo. Fights you get in the middle and KFC and I'll kiss you on the cheek on each side. And so we were lining it up. And for whatever reason, KFC wanted to be in the middle. He goes, hey, I'll get in the middle and you guys kiss me on both sides. And I remember thinking in my head, like, weird how you just want to be in the middle of the kisses. But I'm thinking,
Starting point is 01:15:09 all right, that's fine. Yeah, whatever. So I, like, lean down. I, like, you know, I'm, like, I'm, going to sell the photo and I, like, close my eyes and I lean down real low and I'm going to puck her up real big. And then. then he turned and he kissed me, man. In that movie? Remember the Titans? Yeah. Yeah, yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:15:28 See, 3 hundred times. What happened? He kissed me, man. So, was KFC a good kisser? I mean, it was a pack. You can't really tell a good kisser by someone. Oh, was it? Nice.
Starting point is 01:15:40 They were moist. They were moist. You know what I mean? They weren't dry. There wasn't any stickiness to it. Yeah. They were moist. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:47 you didn't tell he's been there before. He knew what he was about the deal. Yeah, he knew. You know the good impression. Once that happened, I was like, no fucking wonder you wanted to be in the middle.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Yeah. But he kissed me in. He was all being in the middle. Did Fidelberg no? I don't think so. If you see in the video, Fights is still sitting there and he has like a delayed reaction
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Starting point is 01:17:27 All right, so we have CJ on the bus. I'm very excited about this. I met CJ at Tideen U. We had a great time. I think we were exchanging numbers during the water balloon fight. That got out of hand. But I have one question for you.
Starting point is 01:17:42 One question that I want to start this entire podcast off with. I cross my legs too, I think you need to prepare for this one. Does Zach Wilson have that dog in him? I think that's a resounding yes. Right? Like everyone in America?
Starting point is 01:18:01 That's a resounding, yes. Do you not think he has that dog in him? I saw on... I'm not bad about my quarterback right now. No, no, no, I think he does, but I think we all know what we're talking about here. You, I saw your Instagram. It seemed like you guys had a great time out wherever you guys were throwing,
Starting point is 01:18:16 slinging the rock. It was a good time. obviously rumors are swirling. Rumors swirl. Does Zach Wilson have that dog in him? I mean, if that's what the rumor says, you know, like, we just let, we just let social media take over. Oh, we dabbing each other up the next day. The stuff it comes out, the next day it happens, are we coming in?
Starting point is 01:18:35 No, he gave me a call. He was like, yeah, how should I, like, approach, like, what do I say on social media? I was like, dude, we're about to go to Idaho. Don't say anything. Just go media. He made the right move. Yeah, I was like, just don't say anything. Like, just let that ride and whatever happens happens.
Starting point is 01:18:48 and then you react to it afterwards because you don't know what people are going to say off of whatever you're going to say. So, yeah, smart by him. Very smart by him. And the internet, I mean, he's elevated. Like, he's in the conversation with Tom Brady right now. Yeah, like MVP outs for him right now
Starting point is 01:19:02 are greater than Tom Brady. It's kind of, I mean, that's my quarterback. You know what I'm saying? So we also have a Milf Hunter on the bus in the back. Take a guess at which do you think it would be? Probably not JP, huh? I mean, no. JP's awesome.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Yeah, what do you be about that? No, no, no, no, no. Maybe that Joseph Paul, maybe. But that JP, you know, he's got a little class to him. Dang, what are we doing back there, man? What are we? No, I, one rumor gets started. I shout out moms on Mother's Day.
Starting point is 01:19:37 And then all the sudden I'm... Shouted out all the single moms? Well, I shout out of all moms. Then I said, especially the single moms. And we were all like... Yeah. And he's like smiling green. And next thing you know, I'm out here,
Starting point is 01:19:48 poaching women, but... I'm respectful. Wow. He talks about going on the lake and we're like and all the single moms will be out there and he's like, hey, so now like this personality's going to average like one mention in my tweets per tweet that's like, you know, watch out single mom something.
Starting point is 01:20:07 So we can tone it down. Tone it down. I just elevated it with that one. What are you doing? I appreciate you for coming on Bustin with the boys. I think we have what we need. All right. You guys later.
Starting point is 01:20:21 No, but that was, is that a boy? Is he like one of the boys? Would he come on the bus? Yeah, he'd come on the bus. For sure. I think he's, the more I get to talk to him, the more he opens up a little bit. Like, you would probably have to have a couple conversations with him
Starting point is 01:20:36 just like outside just to, like, loosen him up. But he's on me. Yeah, I mean, he's a quarterback. Like, when you're like a first round quarterback and stuff, it's kind of like you're there. From Utah. Right, from Utah. Went to BYU.
Starting point is 01:20:48 Like, they do it. You know, the Mormons do it. little bit differently, right? Yeah. It's a little, it's just a little, it's a cultural shop. But you actually, you were saying right before we came on the bus, you bought a place out in New York and you'll be building that relationship with the boy. Yeah, no, I mean, I live like two doors down from him. And, or I bought a spot that's two doors down.
Starting point is 01:21:08 So we're going to be right next to each other. And we're just be kicking it. He's got, he's got, his basement is the, is the film room. So he'll have the boys come over, like watch film, whatever. And then we're going to jump two doors down. I got a bar in the bottom of my house, so we'll hang out there for a little bit. We'll drink responsibly. We'll get all the boys.
Starting point is 01:21:27 We'll have a good time. That is awesome. By the way, congratulations. Three-year, $24 million deal with the Jets. Round of applause for the boys, CJ. That's a come-up because you're a fifth round guy. Like, you're like, we were talking about before. You're like, fifth round's the best round.
Starting point is 01:21:43 I'm like all undrafted and we went back and forth. But once you hit the fifth round and beyond, like you're pretty much scratching to be on the roster. Like, dude, take us through that. Like, signing a deal like that has got to,
Starting point is 01:21:53 like, feel really fucking good, knowing how you came into the league. Yeah, I mean, yeah, the crazy thing is, like, junior year, I had a decent year in college.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Senior year, I really didn't play too much, um, which is like the offense, whatever. And so I was like, damn, I don't even know if I'm going to get drafted,
Starting point is 01:22:10 to be honest. Like, I thought I was going to be an eighth round guy. Um, and then I, I fortunately got drafted. And, yeah,
Starting point is 01:22:16 it's been, it's been a grind, like the first, I mean, Here's where like anytime a titan gets hurt, it's like, it doesn't matter. Like, all right, you go in, you're with the first team. You're also doing scout team. You're also doing every special team.
Starting point is 01:22:27 You're also doing every scout team on special teams. I'm just like. You were running the scout on special teams? Oh, I was doing everything. Yeah. Oh, brother. I was, I was done. Like, I was like, I lost like 13 pounds every day.
Starting point is 01:22:37 And I would just be like, ah, this is fine. I'll be fine. Like, this is what it takes, right? Hey, we're developing you. Exactly. Um, so yeah, something like this. I mean, it's, I never thought it would happen, right? Like, you know, my parents.
Starting point is 01:22:49 are very, like, hey, just saying, you know, like, you have a better chance of getting struck by lighting twice than making it's an NFL. And, like, you know, the average is like, yeah. Your parents are telling you this or outside people? No, no, no, my parents. Oh, in the house. And my dad was like, hey, make sure you're undergrades.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Just letting you know this is like, it's tough. So, like, we believe in you. Like, you know, they're giving me the dad. Be realistic. Yeah. So, yeah, you know, it's like the average is, what, three and a half, four years maybe? Like, we're smacking that right now.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Go us. Like, come on. I think it's 2.8 is the high up even more. Come on. So yeah, no, it's, you know, something like this was like, got to spend it with my parents, too, which was nice. And I hung out with them talking about it. So, yeah, it's sick.
Starting point is 01:23:30 It's dope. Do you appreciate them keeping it real with you when you're young kind of going through and they're saying, like, talk about the odds and everything else? Yeah, I would have been a piece of shit, probably. Like, I got, I would have been not like a, not like, I mean, my parents raised me, right, you know. But I think, you know, throughout high school, like, you start hearing some hype. You're like, oh, wow. Like, I'm getting, like, colleges are coming and talk to me.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Like, I'm an only child. I talk a lot. Like, I would just, like, act up a little bit in class, like, back caring, really. Spoil it a little bit. Yeah, just, I mean, our high school was really good. And my parents were like that. You were a beast. You play quarterback, wide receiver.
Starting point is 01:24:06 You also said punter. Yeah, I was a punner. You went 11 and 1 as a junior passing for 1,000, while also rushing for 800 yards. Like, you said, yeah, you were a stud. Yeah, I mean, our, I won't say I was a stud. I'll say the high school. our high school was really good.
Starting point is 01:24:20 And they still are really good. I keep in touch with some of the guys there, like some of the coaches. But, yeah, man, it was just, like, that football was, like, the essence of the school. Like, Taylor Heineke. We played Taylor He played Taylor He's school. And, hey, Taylor, we beat that ass, too. What's up? Let's go.
Starting point is 01:24:38 It was a good game. But, like, that game was hype because we were both defeated. Was Taylor a beast in high school? Freak. He was a freak. I mean, do for, what do you throw for over 700? yards in a college game. Oh, no, I know.
Starting point is 01:24:49 I kept up with him in college because I was like, dude, this guy's unbelievable. People just sleep on them. Yeah. And our county is really good. We have a lot of good, whatever talent coming out. So, again, like, football in our county was like, Taylor could probably do whatever he wanted to in his high school. Like, it's like, oh, yeah, cool.
Starting point is 01:25:04 Like school, great. But, like, if you are like, hey, like, dang, I missed some homework assignments. Like, if this test score is an A, because I was decently smart. Like, if this test was an A, like, can the A be for the rest of the homework? Oh, yeah, sure. We got you. Oh, cool. Oh, great.
Starting point is 01:25:20 They'd hook it up like that in high school. It was one teacher. I'm not going to. Because you're saying this like Friday night lights at your high school. It wasn't to that extent. But it was, it was like you could. They're about ball. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:31 Yeah. It was very football oriented at the school, for sure, in the county. And then you go to Auburn. Yep. You played with, you play with a fellow friend of the show, Darren Bairn. You play with him, right? Yep, I played with him. Stories on DVD.
Starting point is 01:25:45 I got great stories with him. He's, I mean, you know, this guy's fucking, he's crazy. He's a lunatic, bro. He is. Speaker always blurring Kevin Gates in the locker room. Oh, yeah. But the fucking mad shit to everybody.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Oh, yeah, he always, he always controlled the ox, so I remember, like, like, we played at South Carolina, and this man is just like, he's going crazy in locker. I won't forget that. I was like, damn, this is sick. It was my freshman year, too. I'm like, I'm out of my mind. But the best story was, we played in Tennessee.
Starting point is 01:26:15 I don't remember what year was, like second or third year, with the Bengals. I see him across, maybe like fourth year, but I see him across and he's just talking shit the entire time. Like, yeah, CJ,
Starting point is 01:26:25 I'm on your ass. I'm like, oh, dope. Like, you're blocking me. Cool. I know it now. This is great. I'm on kickoff.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Like, I'm going to give you a move, whatever. I'm staring out of the entire time. Tidding comes out of nowhere and just smacks the hell out of me. Oh, God. Blindsided. And he's just in my ear the entire time.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Damn, you're going to let us do that to you? We'll be back next play. And I'm like, oh, God, here we go. like this guy he's a lunatic he's a menace on special teams he is that's funny that he had you dialed in and then all of a sudden you get blindsided on a double team my coach was not happy either did you love your time at auburn i did it was it was a good time um i got my best friends from there like i was friends with only for the most part like only walk-ons um like those are my best
Starting point is 01:27:04 friends so we had like walk-on parties we call them whops just so like nobody knew what we were talking about hey like in front of coach like hey uh we got that wop later on coach's like what the fuck is that it's a dance like that's all i'm know. And we'd get after. I was the token scholarship player. That's what they call me. Token scholarship player allowed at the walk-on parties. So I loved. So you're like the gatekeeper. You're like the bridge between Walk-on and Scali. That was, that was me. That's a good, that's a good label to have. I mean, dude, they got treated like, I mean, we're in the national championship. They're in a cage. Like, they're not even the locker. They're like a little
Starting point is 01:27:36 separate cage, like outside of the locker room. And I'm like, this sucks for you guys. Did you almost go somewhere else? I kind of wanted to go to Florida because my God Brother goes there. But other than that, I mean, I'd visit the LSU when Les was there. And I was like, this is awesome. But I kind of do it as Auburn pretty early. Then you get drafted in the fifth round to the Bengals. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:00 You were kind of going through the shit. Like, obviously you guys made it to the Super Bowl, which we'll get into. But you were weathering the shitty years of Cincinnati. Yeah. I mean, my first year wasn't, though. My first year, we were nice. Like, we had everybody. We had AJ was in us, we had Marvin Jones, we had Mosanoo, we had Andrew Whitworth.
Starting point is 01:28:20 I mean, we had the boys. And we won the division. And that was a while ago, Andrew's on the, yeah. Was on the Bengals. Yeah, that you guys were nice then. Yeah, and we won the division. Andy gets hurt. AJ Matt comes in.
Starting point is 01:28:33 He's leading us down. Like, we're about to win the game. Then some stuff happens. And like, what happened? Remind us. Like, you know, our defense kind of got into it a little bit with the Steelers. And like, oh, that was that game? That's how long ago that was?
Starting point is 01:28:47 Yeah. It's like, we were nice that year. You're talking about with, with Tess and, uh, Tess and, and, and, and, and, and, and then, like, how they're, like, running to the locker room. Yeah, Joey Porter.
Starting point is 01:28:57 Yeah. Yeah, like, it was, it was a lot. And that's my, again, that's my rookie year. I'm thinking shit sweet. I'm like, damn, we're nice. Like, this is great. We're doing great. I come into a locker room after we lose that playoff camp.
Starting point is 01:29:08 I'm pissed. I'm like, dang, this sucks, whatever. And then I'm like, dang, this is. I mean, it was tough. What is that locker room like? Oh, I mean, people just yelling at each other. Like, everyone's yelling at them. Tess, not that I know them personally, but like you obviously hear stories.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Right. Well, yeah. I'm going to be honest. The craziest thing is like, Tess likes me a lot, which is awesome. Like, I do some like car karaoke stuff, which is like, it's just I do it for fun. And he would come in and be like, hey, bro, me and my girl watch that car karaoke. That's just funny. I'm just like.
Starting point is 01:29:39 Hang on, car karaoke. Yeah. Like you got a YouTube channel? No, no, I just hop in the car and I just like play some like Taylor Swift. I get some props out there. Like, Miley Cyrus. Like I got, I was in California. I'm doing, I'm doing some crazy.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Dude, I just, yeah, have some fun with it. But he's the last person that I expected to be like, hey, that's funny. I mean my girl were watching this last thing. Yeah, like, hey, do that. Like, when's the next one? It's like, I don't know. I was going to stop doing it. Like, whatever.
Starting point is 01:30:04 He's like, no, you got to keep that going. I'm like, all right, cool. Like, test is the boy. But locker room was crazy. I mean, yeah, like you said, you got all those different personalities, like, clashing, people pointing fingers and, like, just yelling at each other because emotions are high. We just lost the game, right? We thought we were going to win with the backup. And it was, it was, it was hell.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Playing with Taz, I mean, what an animal. Yeah, he's a bit. Did he ever, did he ever lick you? Over the middle once. Yep. I wasn't supposed to, I mean, it was supposed to be like, just fit. Like, you know, just fit up. And I'm running a shallow and I sit.
Starting point is 01:30:39 and I turned right into him and he just lowers his head and I'm like, oh God, all you hear is just stay off the ground. Oh my coach, I'm trying to stay off the ground. I just got smacked. They would talk about how like, like how smart he was,
Starting point is 01:30:54 like instinctive he was. Yeah. Not show up to practice, but he'd be like, he would know everything or when he would show up. Like sometimes they say they'd come in, he'd be in the hot tub and he'd back,
Starting point is 01:31:04 no, I'm not practicing the day. They'd be trying to get him to come out to practice while practice and warm-ups are starting. And he's like in the hot tub. He's like, oh, no, I'm not practicing today. But then he'd come out the next day, say it's like a fast Friday. And he would know everything. And he'd be on the field, like pointing shit out.
Starting point is 01:31:17 Oh, yeah. No, like, even when he was hurt, like, when he was injured or like off the field or something, he'd be like, the trainers would be on him. He'd be kind of talking to them, looking at the field and be like, it's a fucking cross route, just yelling it before the play. And it's a cross and he gets pissed. And then he's like, it doesn't matter if he's hurt or not. He's putting a someone on.
Starting point is 01:31:33 He's going back in. And I'm like, what are you? Are you serious? Like, how do you know that? Like, he's just, he's smart. He's one of the smartest football players that I've been around, like, defensively for sure. But maybe in general.
Starting point is 01:31:45 Like, he knew concepts really well. It was crazy. When did Marvin get fired? My fourth year. So going into my contract year. So this last year? So no, no. No, no, because you had, you've had Zach Taylor for a couple years now.
Starting point is 01:31:59 For three years. Oh, and the Bengals extended you? Yeah. So after those, after those four years, Marv gets fired. Bengals extend me. and I was there for three years. Okay, right.
Starting point is 01:32:09 And then that's when you guys kind of have, you know, battle through some stuff. Yeah. I will say the one pre-draft visit I went on with Cincinnati, what a hellhole it was at the time. Maybe it's, maybe it still is. I don't know what more they did to it, but at the time that I went,
Starting point is 01:32:26 there's a fucking, like, the cafeteria was in the basketball gym, and they would just set up tables. Yeah, they renovated that. They switched it up for sure, because now it's, I don't know if you remember, or not like, now you walk in, you take it right, and the cafeteria is there.
Starting point is 01:32:39 You guys, players, well, it was just like a, it was just like a room with a couple chairs in it. Yeah, it's still the case. At the time. Oh, it's still that way. That was still the case. Yeah. And you talked to everybody around the league,
Starting point is 01:32:49 everybody's like, oh, Cincinnati has got the worst. Yeah, it's pretty, like, that's the, there's a couple teams for sure that I hear, but, yeah, it's up there. So you were grinding there for what, six, seven years? Seven years. You wish you would have stayed? Nah, I mean, it was.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Like was this situation going into this last year? Obviously you have a good year, but are you wanting to stay in Cincinnati? Well, yeah. I mean, I think you're in a place for seven years, right? You're like, dang, like this is, you know, you make it your home. And you're like, and I'm talking to people that, like, one of my boys who's like in the corporate world even, right? And he's like, yeah, you know, I've been this company for four years. And I'm like, dang, do I really want to take this other job?
Starting point is 01:33:28 Like, that's going to be tough, like me and the family. I'm trying to start a family with my wife, all this stuff. And so, yeah, you're comfortable. in a city that like embraces you especially after like like you said being through the shit and then going to the Super Bowl you're like oh dang like you know I got you know I I've made I've planted some roots here
Starting point is 01:33:45 like I kind of want to stay and then you know you see certain things and you're like dang all right cool like man I kind of see that you're wanting to maybe go a different direction or what are the what are the certain things it's just you know like like trying to rotate other guys in there no it's not that it's it's more like
Starting point is 01:34:04 just contractually stuff You know, it's kind of like, throw me a bone maybe, and you don't get that. And you're like, all right, well, you know, I know another team that has some young talent that is going to, you know, throw me a bone and I'm going to stick with them. So is it one of those situations where they're trying to start negotiating, like, way ahead of time? And then obviously, like, every player gets, like, disrespected in their first offer. Yeah, well, I mean. And you're either, you either understand what's happening or, like, there's some guys who just
Starting point is 01:34:32 get so pissed off that, like, you know, they're trying to disrespect me type of thing. Yeah, no, I mean, I knew how they were going to do it. Exactly. So, like, I knew how they were going to do it. I knew how it was the first time. And I knew that's kind of the way that, you know, that contract works. And it's not just Sinci. It's most teams.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Most teams are like, hey, I'm going to try to blow all you in teams. That's business. Yeah. But it was the ending stages. We were like, okay, cool. Like, nice. We got a couple back and forth. Like, let's see if we can, like, actually plant something down.
Starting point is 01:34:59 And it was just, like, not happening. And I was like, all right, well, I mean, that's, that's fine. Like, it sucks. right like seven years like dang but at the same time it's like all right nice like i'll go somewhere and and make something shake with with a young team with some dogs in them oh there you go with the dog in them um do you feel like you do a pretty good job of like keeping your emotions separate from like the whole business thing like it let's see it seems by by the way you're talking like you want it to work out but if it doesn't like you're all right with trying something new clearly
Starting point is 01:35:29 that's the option you did but some guys they want to stay with their team badly and will do you know whatever to make it work and usually the player ends up like, you know, not holding in the business world of like taking a lower deal to stay with the team or stay in a city. Yeah, I think, I mean, I would have for sure, but it was, it was, it was pretty bad. Dude, it is what it is. Like, George was on the pod a couple weeks ago and we were talking about the Debo Samuel situation.
Starting point is 01:35:56 And he goes, look, man, he's going to have a locker. Like, he's going to have a locker here in San Fran. Like, we hope he stays with the team. But he's like, you only get this small. window for each individual or each athlete to capitalize on like what they've worked their entire life for. He's like, who am I to like say, hey, don't go get your money. Like, you only have this much time to acquire it.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Like, you have to do what is best for you. Some guys, some guys, you know, their priorities are set differently. But it's not like every, every player goes through that like a situation to where it's like, hey, you got to do like what is best for you. Because when the logo's gone and the shield is gone, no one cares what's happening. You know, no one's going to care what happens to you or whatever. happens with you. It's like, hey, good luck in the next chapter. Yeah. I mean, and the guys know that. I mean, I still talk to some of the guys in the locker room for sure. You know, the punter was probably
Starting point is 01:36:45 my best friend. Kevin was probably my best friend for the past couple years, you know, on the team. So we still talk. But yeah, I mean, everyone knows. Like, you know, they're going to, they're going to have some problems just retaining Joey B back there. So I was like, yeah, I mean, respect. No doubt. If it's a lot, if it's like a longer deal because Joey B's got, what, two more years? or two more, well, they'll have to probably renegotiate, but he just finished his second year, right? Yeah, yeah. No doubt.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Like, they got a, it's like that time frame that everybody talks about, like in the media, like, you have your quarterback on a rookie deal at the moment. You better build all around him to try and obviously win the Super Bowl. Exactly. But, no, I feel you, man. It does seem like you do a good job separating the two, though. Well, yeah, I mean, I will definitely, like, hats off to my agent for that because he was like,
Starting point is 01:37:31 hey, like, your job, like, I know that you have emotion into this. But, like, my job is to make sure that, like, I'm looking out for you and your best interest. Like, if you're wanting to, like, take this, just, no, it's, it's not good. Like, it's not something that I would recommend you taking. Like, just talk to your parents about it. Let me talk to your parents about it. Like, let me just, like, try to inform you of everything that's going on. And I'm like, dude, thank you.
Starting point is 01:37:53 Like, because, you know, it is, it's an emotional game in general. And then you, like, tie your route somewhere. But he was like, hey, you got to take that out of it. And that definitely helped for sure. And now who all was in the, who all was in the game for you? It was those two. Yep. And Jets came up, man.
Starting point is 01:38:10 They had a good draft. Yeah, we did. You guys are going to win a, you know, a ballgame or two this year? Well, when, no, we probably win way more than a ballgame or two. You know what I'm saying? We got the MVP frontrunner right now. There's no question, bro. Zach Wilson, the dog that everybody, this facade that is getting created is, is pretty funny.
Starting point is 01:38:28 Yeah. But yeah, how do you feel about going through OTAs and everything with the Jets? getting acclimated to New York, like being out there in the city. Like you go from CINCII, that type of situation. I've heard the Jets have an incredible fucking facility where you probably go over there and you're like,
Starting point is 01:38:43 yo, how do all teams don't have it like this? I haven't been there, but like one of my boys who was at Nebraska would take videos of like they're, where you had the nutrition table, like making shakes, like the recovery,
Starting point is 01:38:56 all of this stuff. Like how do you like getting acclimated to New York? Oh, I mean, it's New York as a whole. I mean, it's, I mean, the city is amazing, right? Like, I'm, I'm happy that our facility is kind of a little bit further away to. It's like 40, 45 minutes. Should an hour, 15.
Starting point is 01:39:10 We'll try. I don't know. It just depends with traffic. But, yeah, so I like the city, obviously. But then just the facility is in, it's insane. Like, I'm like, hey, like, mass and guys like, hey, where do you get massages or like, X, Y, Z, whatever. And then I'm just like, oh, yeah, in the training room.
Starting point is 01:39:24 Like, what are you talking about? Oh, yeah, we got dudes every day, dude. Like, just go in there, write your name down and you can get whatever you want. I'm just like, what? Right. Like, are you serious? Like, yeah, whatever you need. I'm like, all right, cool.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Like, who has like chefs around here? I'm like, yeah, some people do. But like, just like, check out the cafeteria, bro. They got anything you need in there. And I walk in and I'm just like, oh, my God, like this is. Because Sissy didn't have none of that. Yeah, I mean, not. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:47 It's not really. Washington, that you'd have to go to like, you know, like third parties outside the facility to get your massage. And then you're in, you're in Vegas, bro. And they got everything out there in Vegas. Massage people coming in. like you said, like they're set up all over the field. I mean, like they got the, the cafeteria.
Starting point is 01:40:07 If you don't, if you want something that's like dietary restricted or something else, like they will cook for you like a chef and give you a meal at nighttime. And in the morning, like give you something that's off off of what they have out there on the floor. But it's just, it's unreal. Yeah, I think, and I think there's talks about this. I think the PA needs to put like a ranking list of teams. Okay, this is what, this is what's available for the facilities. like this is what the practice looks like this is what you know training like whatever it is so that and
Starting point is 01:40:36 everyone has it like all the whole team like everyone has it so you're like oh nice like you're a free agent and you're like oh cool like let me see what cool like maybe like like you said like Pete there's tears to it right or there's like in your head you're like okay nice like this is the offer but like maybe the facilities aren't great but like training camps they show you love like you know whatever it is and you're like oh cool like I know what a certain team has and I don't make sure, like, that'll make sure teams are like on their shit with it. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. Because we'll be in the PA meetings and everybody would be kind of arguing about the old, like, the training room set up and like the access
Starting point is 01:41:13 you have because they want you to, if you get hurt off site, it doesn't pertain or happen. It's, it doesn't involve your contract. But if you get happened on site, like at the facility, then they'll take care of you. Right. And everybody just argues back and forth about like, we would train there or we would be there, but everything is shitty compared to what what you can get. 100% training somewhere else in the off season, whether it be Nashville, Austin,
Starting point is 01:41:37 LA, Arizona, Miami. Going back to your college is a fucking insane. Right. I'm like, dude, I go back to the airport and I'm like, how much did you guys spend on this?
Starting point is 01:41:46 Like, donor money is paying for all of this and like, we can't have what? Right, because NFL's money goes to players, money in college goes to like getting recruits. Right. So yeah,
Starting point is 01:41:56 you're right. It's like you're better off going to your college and getting taken care of. But no, I agree with you on that. What do we have next? I'm sitting here thinking about all the different sponsors to train at because I do remember vividly.
Starting point is 01:42:10 Do you go to the PA meetings? Dude, I went to some of them during the COVID stuff and I just had to get out, man. I was like, you guys are asking the most absurd. When you say the COVID stuff, is this when they're zooming the PA meetings? Okay, yeah, that's, you never went to the in-person ones. No, I was supposed to this past year.
Starting point is 01:42:27 Like this year, I was, I'm getting text still. Like, with two Cincinnati guys, I'm like, hey, boys I'm not in this anymore like I'm gonna have to remove myself so I haven't been to any of them are you like an alternate yeah yeah yeah yeah I got a question from someone who's not in the NFL because I feel like a lot of our listeners when you hear about the NFL PA the only general consensus from players is that you hate them can you all like go into more depth of why the NFL PA is like maybe poorly run or just give us more insight to people who don't get to understand what the PA really is doing
Starting point is 01:42:59 and stuff like that I think it's hard too because number one even with that question you already put us on the other side of the fence from our own union the NFL PA the NFL players association is our union and guys have a lot of mixed reviews on the PA on how you know it's ran guys always have a million questions when you go to the meetings it's like I it's when I hear guys complain about it or get upset about it there's like things that obviously I ever none of us know everything about it but you sit there and hear stuff on them being involved with the NFL a little bit more than they probably should be. Or they could be working side stuff.
Starting point is 01:43:35 Or we build up this war chest and we never are really going to do anything with it. If we're just going to cower up and sign the dotted line right before a new CBA happens, which in my opinion is what we did this past CBA is we all signed. Half the guys were signed before we even got to the NFLPA meetings. And so there's there's just always this like there's a lot of mixed reviews about it. Like if we had Dennis Kelly on here, Dennis Kelly is somebody who I look to, who I always try and hit up
Starting point is 01:44:01 because he's somebody who plays that side of like, you got to understand it from this point of view. Because some guys will be really emotional about it and they just fucking hate it. But there's a lot of guys who don't go to the meetings or they don't show up to stuff. So by the time, guys are showing up at these meetings when they have them, these destination places,
Starting point is 01:44:17 or when you have them on Zoom, I mean, that one, that one does suck. But when you go and meet and we're all in the big room and having our getaway every year, that three-day trip, guys are arguing over so much stuff you can't get anything done. It's like you sit there because we're going back and forth
Starting point is 01:44:33 or we're trying to get stuff done with like 32 NFL owners. You're talking about guys who, you're talking about people who are the elite of the elite. There's 32 of them sitting in the room. They understand negotiating way more than any of us ever fucking will because they've been doing business their entire life.
Starting point is 01:44:49 They're not like, yeah, some of them could be, people can argue like trust fund or legacy children or whatever the case may be, but it takes a lot of work to be a billionaire and you're all sitting in a room and there's 32 of you. And with us, the NFLPA, you get 2,500 guys.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Now all of us aren't there at the meeting, but you get all of us in there and we're just charged up athletes trying to argue and we think we know what we need to be doing. But guys are just sitting there fucking arguing all the time. And it's like, yo, this is not happening
Starting point is 01:45:18 in the owner's room. We know that. And everybody argues over stuff and some of it's petty enough to where it's like, we try and get stuff taking care of in the season where they come in and visit us and have our meetings. And what I think about that is like we have to pay attention in those small meetings
Starting point is 01:45:36 because when we have them in season, they're usually after practice. They're later in the year where it's dark out already. You're already in the grind of a season. Somebody from the NFLPA is standing up there. We're either making fun of them or you're trying to joke about the coaches, you know, doing too much in practice or we're having it. You know what I'm talking about. 100%.
Starting point is 01:45:54 And you vote on. your reps, your alternates, and this, that, the other. And we don't take care of the small stuff that we try and we end up arguing about when we're at these big meetings. And that's kind of my two, that's kind of like my thoughts on it when I sit back because I've been an alternate a few times. Like I've been in the little meeting rooms. And I argued one time about practice squad guys getting accredited season.
Starting point is 01:46:17 And they ended up getting that done because Lorenzo Alexander was, he was a peace squad guy for like two or three years. and ended up helping pioneer, like, getting something done. But you can't get stuff done, but to me, guys aren't locked in like they should be. And they would rather judge and have big opinions versus taking the time to think about actual situations. Yeah, and guys just, they just like, some guys just like hearing themselves talk. Like, it's, like, it's, dude. Some dudes be on their thing, they're spitting game.
Starting point is 01:46:48 Like, really saying something. They're like, hey, let me spit something to you. Let me, hey, let me educate you. like, no, you're not educating anybody. You're just saying the same thing over and over again for 10 minutes. And then they're giving you an answer saying like, hey, like, we'll come back to you on it. And you're like, okay, but you're trying to word it in a way that's like, well, you just said that.
Starting point is 01:47:05 You're just trying to sound a little smarter, but you're sounding dumber because you're saying the same thing and you're not using bigger words correctly. You'll be on the phone. Some of these will start laughing. Yeah, no, I mean, it's insane. It's like, it honestly is insane. And those same guys, like you just said, like they're not in every meeting. So they'll miss a couple meetings and be like, they'll hop on five, whatever.
Starting point is 01:47:22 however many meetings later and just be like, okay, so what about this? And just going to a rant and like, hey, hey, then you got people talking over each other. It's like, hey, we discussed this. It's this, this and this. But he doesn't want to hear it because he wasn't a part of that meeting. And so now he's just like, all right, I'm going to, I have the floor. I started talking. I'm going to keep talking.
Starting point is 01:47:40 Like, dude, just shut up. Just shut the hell up. There's not like full attendance with the reps or the representation, the guys who get voted on. Yeah. And some guys are complaining you need the money guys to show up. Like, yeah, that's like a valid. argument, but like, it's just, it's way more, it's, like, guys are, it's, we don't spend enough time trying to get the actual stuff done. And I think on the flip side, as a player,
Starting point is 01:48:06 you sit back and you see some of the stuff that does get done are the way it's handled. And sometimes, like, like, I know for me, it's like, I would, like, you want killers going up against these, you know, going up against the NFL. Yeah. Sometimes, like, guys feel like we can seed a little too early too much, which I would agree with in certain situations or certain areas. I'm doing my best to toe the line with all this stuff because obviously I'm pro for the boys. Like, I want stuff to get done for the players for the NFLPA. So I am for the NFLPA. So I try and hesitate like talking shit, so to speak, because I want us to be better.
Starting point is 01:48:39 So in my mindset, it's like instead of bitching about it, like, let's figure out a way to like be together on something or show up or you. who are sitting here bitching about the whole time, like be on a phone call or show to a meeting so that way you understand like what you're digesting and spitting out in the first place. Yeah. No, I mean, I'm, that I'm with you. It's, I just said it's just bitching. It's a whole lot of bitching and there's no like, there's nothing constructive that comes out of it if you're just going to yell or like talk or raise your voice or if you don't get the answer you want or like, yeah, like if you don't get the answer that you're looking for in your head to,
Starting point is 01:49:13 then it's just all hell breaks. Then you freak out more. And you spend too much time talking on certain topics to where you waste all your time. The dumbest stuff. The dumbest shit, bro. The rants are on the dumbest things. It's not on the things that are important too, which is the, which is why I'm just like, dude, I'm pissed off. Like, I'll just mute myself and kind of just be like,
Starting point is 01:49:28 all right, I'm going to put my phone down 20 minutes later. But he's still going to be talking. We're still going to be talking about the same point because someone else is going to jump on about something that has no effect on anything in the grand scheme of things. Like it just so minute. And then we get nothing done because then it's like, all right, we got an hour and a half conversation, 20 of it spent on this. People have left the phone call because like, all do we do.
Starting point is 01:49:46 Yeah, exactly. But if you're a player listening to this, I advise everybody to go to these meetings that we have every year. Especially the one you can do the destination was like you plus one first class. Like it's a little vacation. For sure. But don't just go for the vacation, show up to the meetings. I know a couple years that there was like an attendance problem because people would go get taken care of on like, you know, hotel, first class plus one. And dudes wouldn't show up to.
Starting point is 01:50:10 These ones show up to the meeting where they'd start taking attendance. That's why attendance started to happen. Yeah. That's funny. Dude, this past year going to the Super Bowl, being this fucking close. What was it like experience in the Super Bowl? And getting there on some like bullshit calls. Can you elaborate on that?
Starting point is 01:50:31 So I know one in particular against the Raiders that play in the end zone when the whistle was blown. I think that was a bullshit call. I don't recall that one. Bring it up, Jack. I don't know what you're talking about, to be honest with you. This man just Johnny on the spot. out here? What are you doing? Yeah, he'll bring it up. Computer crash out there or what?
Starting point is 01:50:52 He'll bring it up. Final play or is it? It was like, it was towards... Oh, definitely not the final play. No, no, no, it wasn't the final play because the Raiders were trying to go down and score. Yeah, I don't remember a whistle on that one. And unfortunately, we stopped a route pretty short from the end zone when it's the last play the fucking game. Yeah, it's tough. I got cut the week before. However,
Starting point is 01:51:08 I was all about caping the boys going into the playoffs because I do strongly believe that I was a huge reason while we got there. Yeah, I mean, for sure. Just keep a straight face. entire time. Yeah. Dude,
Starting point is 01:51:20 Foster's a stud, man. Yeah, he's a good dude. Very funny individual when you get to know his humor. Yeah. Because at first you kind of can't tell. No, you have no idea. No clue. First time I met him,
Starting point is 01:51:29 was last tied in you and I was just like, what? You thought he was autistic, right? No, I saw the shit. Hey. No, I didn't think that. I was just like, this guy's got some, and he was like, yeah, you know,
Starting point is 01:51:43 you're talking about Joe. He was like, yeah, you know, tell Joe, I said, hey, like, that's my boy, blah, and then it like clicked. I was like, oh, you two. are probably the same because you got the same sense of humor. Like your friends probably because you're just like,
Starting point is 01:51:53 you say something and you're just straight-faced. And then you'll laugh maybe later or smile maybe later in like a cynical way and you think it's funny and it's not really that funny. But then it turns out that it is funny. That was like a whirlwind. But like that's how it is. You got to keep up with him. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:07 As we wait on him bringing this play up, playing with Joe B. The dude seems like the truth. Yeah, he's, he is. I mean, he's, he plays like a vet. You know, he's, he's a... How so? Like, explain what, what makes him comfortable enough to where he commands the huddle like that to play like a vet?
Starting point is 01:52:25 I don't know. He doesn't even, like, he doesn't even talk to too much. But when he talks, it's like, oh, shit, like, he's spoken. Like, don't say talk. Are you talking about, like, speaking in front of the team? Are you talking like... Yeah, really, he doesn't speak too much in front of the team. When he does, it's like, okay, like, this is how it is. And I think, the main thing, I think, too, was, like, in offensive meetings. Coach is talking.
Starting point is 01:52:46 And it is kind of an open dialogue for the, most part, like, people aren't, like, just absolutely going insane out there. But if he would, if you were to say something, like, Joe would just be like, you know, I kind of just want you to run it like this or just, you know what, just get open. Like, I'll find you. Like, I know, I know where you're supposed to be. If it's cover three, whatever, like, be in the direction. I'll get you the ball.
Starting point is 01:53:05 Like, oh, okay, cool. Like, dope. I can just go out there and play and, like, not like a robot. Like, and then you just have fun. And, and, and to an extent, like, because then if you're having too much fun, he'll be like, hey, we got to lock the fucking. And it'll just say it. check you like that. And then it's just like, okay, cool. And then you just stop. Like, done. Got you.
Starting point is 01:53:21 So he's got the whole quiet demeanor until he wants to speak up or say something. For sure, which is why like, dress up for the, for the games. Exactly. Which is, dude, which is like. Is that a mind fuck if he's like got a quiet demeanor? And then all of a sudden he's showing up to the plane or shown up for game day. Like he's like. Let me tell you how fucking hilarious that is to me. Like, like seeing this man just like sit in his locker and not really talk, not really do much. Like he has a chessboard in his front of, in front of his long. locker that like like like loki he'll play chess against himself like certain moves bro it's like bro it's super interesting he's got a chess board sitting in front of his locker so they got like a little golf cart right or like a little cart whatever and i played against him once and he thought i was gonna be he thought i was gonna be trash i could tell like he was like oh this is gonna be easy sitting down he's making some moves and he's like and he'll sit back and it took like through meetings because
Starting point is 01:54:09 he he thought i was going to be quick right like he he slats on me um so it took a little bit but he got out of meetings early and i just said him sitting there looking at the board. And he's like, hey, you want to make a move? And I'm like, all right, cool. Like, so I sit there for a second. I make a move and he immediately moves a piece. And I'm like, you jackass.
Starting point is 01:54:25 You've been calculating every move that I was going to make. Like, this is weird. And so, like, he plays a couple people. He's beating the shit of him. And people just are like not playing anymore. It's during the season, later on the season. And he'll just like kind of like move the chest pieces around a little bit, like, play against himself.
Starting point is 01:54:40 And you're just looking like, are you good? Like, are you just like, are you just like that's smart to where you're playing against, like, what, like, what is this? And he won't say a word. And then he'll just get ready, go out to practice. Like, kind of smile a little bit, kind of joke around a little bit, be all serious, come back in, kind of sit there for a second. Like, after games, too, like, depending on the game, he'll just sit there.
Starting point is 01:54:59 No phone, no nothing. In his pads, just sit there. And like, I'm assuming just analyzing the game, but, dude, he's... Do you ask him why he sits there? No. I'm not going to disturb him when he's in his, like... Don't disturb the game. Yeah, like, I'm just like, dude, you're sitting there and chilling.
Starting point is 01:55:12 Like, I'll just talk to the other boys that are around the locker room because I was a couple lockers down from him. You know, next to me was Drew Sample, then, like, Tyler Boyd. So TB and I would fuck around all the time. Like, we would, he'd come over to the crib, take a shot after every win. Like, that was an open door policy for him. We talked about, like, this open door policy. He would walk in the house, take a shot with me and then just walk out.
Starting point is 01:55:34 Like, that's... And not say a word. Yeah, not say a word. Just like, cheers. Good shit. I see you later. And so we would mess around a lot. And you just got Joe in the background as we're like clowning.
Starting point is 01:55:43 Just... Like chess. Against himself. Yeah, against himself. Hey, that's iconic. Like, that is awesome. That is legendary. Yeah, it's insane.
Starting point is 01:55:52 And then all of a sudden, like, when it's obviously a big game, he just pulls out the cigar and just... Yeah, he didn't want to... He starts doing the little dancing and the rhythm for the internet to go crazy. He didn't want to smoke either the cigar until the Super Bowl. Like, he was like, yeah, I want this. I...
Starting point is 01:56:07 Like, he was like, I'll smoke this one now. Like, we just won, like, we're... A.S. I'm not smoking another one after we won a playoff game. None of that. It's going to be a... after we win the Super Bowl. Like, he's like, I'm, I'm cool off that. I was like, all right?
Starting point is 01:56:19 He doesn't even, I don't even know if he likes smoking cigars. It's just, now that's, that's, that's him. What a legend, dude. Did you find the play? Yeah. Here we go, scrambling around. Did you hear that whistle right before he caught that ball? I know you fucking did.
Starting point is 01:56:39 Go back. Wait, go back? What, what quarter was, what even is this? This is, uh, second quarter, this is before halftime. Nah. You saw my man back there blow the fucking whistle. No, I saw him put it. Look at me.
Starting point is 01:56:57 I'm just looking at, I'm just looking at TB. Look at me. Oh, yeah. Listen to the whistle. I'm listening. Oh, no, I think that's a delayed. That was a delayed TV reaction, I think, is what happened. You got that little shit grin on your face, man.
Starting point is 01:57:17 You're not on the Bengals anymore. I think it was just... Let's talk about it transparently. Where are you sitting there thinking like, shit? Yeah, all of us are. We're like, what the hell is going on right now? Did you think, like, oh, I thought I heard the whistle? Like, be real.
Starting point is 01:57:29 Did you personally on the field hear the whistle? You just thought, oh, what is the conversation even about? No, no, no. I heard the whistle as the ball is in the air. Like, as I'm looking. Like, as I'm looking, I was like, because the ball was throwing, like, I mean, you hear, he's putting the whistle on his mouth.
Starting point is 01:57:46 He's not blowing it yet. He's blowing it like now. And I'm like, wait, what the hell? Like, that was a little premature. Like, did he know he was going to catch that right now? Like, what's going on? Because you see me. I'm just like, okay, he caught it.
Starting point is 01:57:59 That should be a tough. touchdown. I don't know what's going on on the sideline over there, but like, I'm going to act like it's a touchdown. And so they say it's not a touchdown. Um, yeah, you see me looking out. I'm not like super hype at the moment because I don't know the fucking, I don't know the thing. Because you're thinking all, I don't know what that was a touchdown. Yeah, exactly. I didn't know. It's all we needed. But I do know. I do know that that was a touchdown. If you look at it, too, I mean, he's not going to make the play. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's probably not going to make the play. However, like, for argument's sake. For you. Yeah. For you. For you. For my narrative.
Starting point is 01:58:29 For your narrative, you got it. For social media. For everyone else's narrative, social media, the world. We got the clip that we need. It's going to be up to you to find the rest of this clip and post it yourself.
Starting point is 01:58:38 All right, cool. You got, we got it. We got it. We got it. I'm boys with the boys now. We're good. We drop one and he drops it right underneath. Here's the full entire quote.
Starting point is 01:58:48 Yeah. Because I got, I was doing one with Foster last week on saying that he's the team to beat, the Raiders are the team to beat the AFC West. And we quote it like in big, like a big graphic. that he said it and then I'm like very small
Starting point is 01:59:02 that people can't understand and everybody's like arguing that's crazy that he's already claiming that they're the best team blah blah blah blah just to just to roth everybody up on the internet God I love that going to Tennessee talk about that game
Starting point is 01:59:15 obviously you got now as you do talk about it you got two juggernaut fans back there and Garrett and Jack I'm obviously for the boys as well you beat both both my squads back to back what was like going into Tennessee like I'm sure you guys had all the confidence in the world, but Tennessee was fucking rolling Derek, the King Henry's coming back. Yeah. Talk about
Starting point is 01:59:33 coming to Nashville. All right, well, I got to say this too. Offer it. After the game, I said, I got to talking about ClickBay and like things I got blown out of proportion. I said, you know, the quote was that they were scared of us.
Starting point is 01:59:49 You're quoted saying that? That's what got quoted. Bring that up, Jack. No, that's what got that's what got quoted. But the entirety like I'm long-winded, right? So like sometimes I just, I'll... Explain the, yeah, explain the situation.
Starting point is 02:00:04 What I was saying was like, the entire situation was, hey, I saw the way that they were playing, right? Like the offense was trying to run the ball. They were trying to run the ball. They were trying to milk the clock. They weren't really like, like, yo, you guys can come down
Starting point is 02:00:17 and you guys can go win this game too. Yeah. We're on the sideline and we're watching our defense and we're kind of seeing how Tennessee Tennessee is playing. Oh, they're scared of us. dot dot dot you see that you see that ellipsis in there yeah yeah yeah there's you know if we get the ball back we're gonna win this game that was our mindset the entire time dot dot dot dot dot they know if they
Starting point is 02:00:38 give it back to us it's game over and then we get the ball back and we're like it's game over dot dot dot dot dot it's over yeah so what i was saying was like okay like it's a tie it's a tie game right and time's winding down like heavily and it's just we're still gonna run the ball we're still going to run the ball. We're still going to run the ball. Yeah. It's still going to run the ball. And I'm like, oh, dang, like, yeah, they're not. I mean, they've had some explosive runs. Like, well, like, we were happy with how our defense was playing. We're like, yo, this is, we're playing great. It was a really good defensive game. And we're sitting on the sideline like, dang, like, they're not really, it doesn't seem like they're like too keen on hurrying up to try to get, you know, get a touchdown or getting field go range.
Starting point is 02:01:20 It's kind of like, it's a slow methodical pace. And I know the game of football. Like, I'm like, dang, all right, obviously they're wanting to kick a field goal to win the game. game over. When you do that, I mean, it's kind of like, 100%, exactly. Yeah. But I'm like, you know, certain, I'm like, you know,
Starting point is 02:01:32 like you can throw the ball a little. It's third and however long. Like, throw that thing, air that thing out. Like, that's, I'm a coach. That's how we've been kind of playing. Like, in my mindset throughout the year, it's like, all, cool.
Starting point is 02:01:43 Like, yeah, we've been able to run the ball well, but like, games coming down. We're putting the ball in, and on our boy's hand and he's going to, we're going to make plays on the perimeter. And so I'm just like, yo, we get this ball back. Like, we're good. Like they're, they don't want us to touch the ball for a second.
Starting point is 02:01:57 Like, they don't want us to anything. And so I'm, that's just what I'm saying to the team, what I'm saying to the squad. Like, that's how I'm thinking. And I did say like, oh, they're scared. They're scared of our offense and what we can do, right? Like, rightfully so. You don't got to explain yourself. You can talk your shit and they stand off.
Starting point is 02:02:16 You know how dudes are on the, you know how dudes are on the sideline. They'll walk up and down the bench and back. Hey, they're fucking scared. They ain't trying to swing the ball. I will still talk my shit. It seems like you're trying to back pedal just a little bit. I just want the record to show. I didn't just be like, those motherfuckers scared of shit.
Starting point is 02:02:30 Hey, we win, done. I'm like, yo, like, respectfully, 100% we, we're in dogs, great. Like, they should be scared of our offense. We, you know, they're having a good game. They got however many sacks, whatever, but like nut crunch time, you know. How many sacks did Tennessee get? Nine? Nine.
Starting point is 02:02:47 And nine. Eden. Nine. But we're still there. Like, cool. This is what we do. Like, end of the game. and at the half time, this is what we do.
Starting point is 02:02:55 We make shit happen. And so that's, that's, that's all I felt. Cool, I'm going to say it. But, like, at least quote me on the whole damn thing. Don't just be like, they're scared of us. Idiot, we win game over. I mean, if I'm the reporter, like, that's obviously the headline. They're scared of it.
Starting point is 02:03:09 Of course. Yeah, like, I got a word, word my stuff a little bit better maybe. But, yeah, no, coming to Tennessee, I was sick. I mean, I live here in the offseason. And so, like, the hotel we were staying at was, like, a seven-minute walk from where I live. Oh, for real?
Starting point is 02:03:23 Yeah, and that's nice. People were like, you're going to go back home. Like, you want to see your family there, whatever. I was like, no, I'm going to do the same thing
Starting point is 02:03:28 that I always do. I'm going to be in the hotel. If you want to see me, you can come to the hotel. Like, it sucks because I want to go back to the crib, like hang out, like,
Starting point is 02:03:35 get some decent food, whatever. But like, I do what I do every time. So, um, now I was electric, man.
Starting point is 02:03:41 I got to have a lot of family and friends come to too because, I mean, Nashville's close to, close to Georgia where I'm from. And, um, it was,
Starting point is 02:03:53 go out and eating stuff. Yeah. What spots are you putting the boys on coming to Nashville? Oh, that's a good question. For the most part, the first thing that I say every time is Barcelona. I love a good topis spot. Topas and wine on Monday. You got a half price wine on Monday.
Starting point is 02:04:09 You get to tapas. Oh, come on. I'm not a big tapas guy, man. No, but like, why not? I know you can order a lot more. So my wife, she's from D.C. There's a Barcelona out in D.C. And she took us there one time on one of our dates.
Starting point is 02:04:22 and I wasn't the biggest fan because you're like, tell you something, you got to split it. And I'm like, hey, order up more stuff. And then, you know, we were young in the game back then, too,
Starting point is 02:04:32 so my mind was probably somewhere else. Like, let's get up, let's get out. Let's get out of this date. You know what I'm saying? Let's go back home. Yeah. But I'm not a huge tapas guy. See, like, the thing that I do for the most part,
Starting point is 02:04:42 like, I know what I like from Barcelona. First time I went there, I went there for the wine. Tell me my order. Tell me my order next time. Get the croquettes. Get the potatoes, bravice. get the calamari get the
Starting point is 02:04:56 ooh what did I just have that was decent yo they have this spinach and chickpeas something and it was actually pretty fire like I'm not like I kind of if you I don't even
Starting point is 02:05:06 I'm gonna be honest spinach and chickpeas yeah exactly but it was fire they have a oh my I don't know they have this other like pork something
Starting point is 02:05:14 it's like a little like pork belly yeah the pork belly there phenomenal but then get the croquettes and the potatoes no matter what, but ask the chef with their favorite thing.
Starting point is 02:05:25 I do it every single time. Hey, whatever the chef wants. Like, give me something that just, and it is always fire. Okay. I'll do that. Outside of Barcelona. Outside of Barcelona. Oh, that's a good question.
Starting point is 02:05:37 Where do I go out here? What's your favorite steakhouse in Nashville? I don't go to many steakhouses here. Really? Oh, yeah. I went to, yeah, bourbon steak. Went there. Bourbon's fire.
Starting point is 02:05:47 Yeah, bourbon was pretty fire. Especially if you get the nice, like, view. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The view is sick. you get a nice view. Bourbon steak was really good. I went to Cain. I like the apps.
Starting point is 02:05:58 Say it again? Kane. Bro. Amen, brother. Yeah, the apps there are fire. I will say this from bourbon.
Starting point is 02:06:03 The fries, the trio sauce. Yes. Fire. Oh, my God. That was right. Okay. I wasn't ready for it either.
Starting point is 02:06:10 Because I'm talking, I don't forget. I'm like in conversation with somebody. He's explaining everything. And then I look. I'm like, damn, what are all these sauces? And we took the boys there.
Starting point is 02:06:19 Like, it was me, Zach. It was for Todd and you. like a conk was there, one of my boys was there and their girls, whatever. And I'm like, hey, bro, what the hell? What are these sauces? I have no idea. Just try them.
Starting point is 02:06:31 I have no idea. Just try and I'm like, damn, okay. I hit another fry. I'm like, wait, this is a different fry. They have different fries with the different sauces. My mind was, too. It's like a flight of fries. I was just thinking, should we go there this weekend, boys?
Starting point is 02:06:42 100%. It's like a flight of fries with three different sauces, three different styles of fry. I mean, it's incredible. Yeah, no. And that's like their bread, right? Like, they give that to you. Yeah, I don't remember. They just came out.
Starting point is 02:06:53 I guess. They just came out. I think it is. I think it's kind of like their... If not, though, anybody from Bourbon listening, we're giving you a free shout-out. We shouldn't be, but you should hook the boys up with surprise. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 02:07:06 But Kane Prime, I am fucking with you on their apps. Everything, like, when it comes to actual steak, you can kind of figure it out at any of these steakhouses. Like, they're all similar. They're all kind of in the same ballpark. But when it comes to everything outside of the steak, like the entrees, Kane Prime to me is hands down,
Starting point is 02:07:25 best appetizers, best bread, like the popcorn lobster? Fire. The cotton candy bacon? The bacon. If you were going to leave the bacon, I would have been out of it.
Starting point is 02:07:36 That is the most fire thing that I, like, in the world. Talk to them. Like, actually. And I was kind of sleeping on it. First time I heard it was from a friend. And she was like, yeah,
Starting point is 02:07:50 you know, You got to go here. You got to get this cotton candy bacon. I was like, no. That sounds just like, all I was thinking was like, con candy on a stick with bacon. And I'm like, that just sounds disgusting. And then the,
Starting point is 02:08:01 she comes out, she's like, prepares it for you and you're just like, what fuck is going on here? You take a bite and you're just like, I'm done. Bacon kind of melts onto it. Yeah, I'm sold. Bro, it's incredible. Yeah, they actually bring it out in this thick,
Starting point is 02:08:15 well done bacon, dude. Oh, dude. With the cotton candy on it, it's like a nice presentation. sitting there, like the ambiance and the in Cane Prime is like darker. You know what I mean? It's got like the tinted light vibe going on. And then they talk to you about the bacon a little bit and it's sitting there melting
Starting point is 02:08:30 and you kind of like, you're splitting it up a little bit. You want to take the whole thing down. But my mouth is watering, talking about it. It is a vibe in your mouth. I come back for the bye week. I'll take you there. Oh, hey, you, yeah, I was going to say. You got to say that clip, boys.
Starting point is 02:08:46 We got this. Bust with the boys. Team dinner on CJ. Well, I didn't, wait, hold on, I didn't say team dinner. Just, I'm not going to knock on our wins over here. My father got a little ahead of myself. Now, you can sit a table away from us. Another good one in the Southern.
Starting point is 02:09:05 That's a good steakhouse in Nashville. I've been there once, and I didn't get the steak. So you can go up and choose your selection. Actually. Yeah, like window shopping, go up there and you get to pick your cut. Oh, wow. It's a pretty cool. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 02:09:19 Check it out next time. All right. Where were we before we got off the tangent of Nashville? Okay, playing the Titans, you talk shit. The Titans were scared of the Bengals last year. You said Derek Henry didn't want it, too, right? Did you just say that right now? Is that what happened?
Starting point is 02:09:37 Then you guys, yeah, but they went to the conference championship after that. Who did you guys play in the conference championship? Chiefs. Casey. After their crazy game with the bills. Against the bills. I know, man. Like, I'm a fan of Casey.
Starting point is 02:09:50 Like everybody loves Kansas City, the chiefs. Like my mom, her favorite team was Kansas City. And everybody in Nebraska, they're pro team, since there is no pro team in Nebraska is Kansas City. But bro, like, are something about pulling for the bills that I was wanting them to pull it off? I was wanting Josh Allen to pull it off against my homes. I mean, they won.
Starting point is 02:10:08 They had won a Super Bowl, but I was room for the bills to kind of like go to the Super Bowl. Outside the Titans and, of course, outside the Raiders. You guys were like the Cinderella story running through everybody. Don't you feel that way? Don't you feel like you guys were the underdard? dog. I mean, yeah, to the outside for sure. Oh, not to the inside.
Starting point is 02:10:25 I mean, like you just said, you got to talk your shit. Like, in the locker room, we were like, you know, we were those boys. Like, we are, we're damn good team. We've been showing it. Like, you know, we've had some hiccups throughout the year, but like, shit, we're here now. Like, come on. Like, we gotta try to earn our respect. So, yeah, no, that game was crazy. I mean, I got hurt that game, like, pretty early. First quarter
Starting point is 02:10:45 messed my knee up and I was fucking pissed. Oh, yeah. you're in the playoffs like you're like I'm like this sucks like this is like the worst thing that could happen to me right now um and and low key like I thought to the squad I was like damn if I'm on the field like this is just that sucks like I don't know like kind of feel like I'm a little spark plug whatever so I get and I like feel it and I I'm like damn I might what happened what happened to your knee it was a great three MCL like they said like two and a half three whatever and I tried to jump
Starting point is 02:11:19 and right when I jumped I felt to like twinge a little bit and then I missed the ball and I was like oh shit and I looked back and I landed awkwardly and that's when I like heard something and I was like oh shit I think I just tore this like this sucks and then I like hopped off the field um got onto the bench and they were like yeah we got to get you in the locker room they put me in a splint and boys came in at half time
Starting point is 02:11:42 and I like crouched out there like trying to like He was in your eyes? No, I was like, fuck, yeah, boys, let's go. Let's go. I'm here with you guys. And I started jumping around and the trainer's like, dude, you got to, you got to, you have to sit down. Like, you cannot be doing this. Get away from the sideline.
Starting point is 02:11:54 Like, one of the trainers is, he's like actually one of my best friends for, for sure. Like, Nick cause. Shout him out. Shout him out, Nick. No, but like he, he helps me with everything. Like, he helped me get back for the Super Bowl, all this stuff. And he was like, dude, I love you. I know you're passionate about this shit.
Starting point is 02:12:11 You got to sit down. Like, if we win this game, you want to play in the Super Bowl, if you keep doing this shit, you're not going to do anything. I was like, all right, fine, whatever. So I'm sitting on the bench and I'm just like, dude, come on, let's go, boys. Let's go. We're coming back.
Starting point is 02:12:23 Let's do this. I'm watching the game. Like, even at halftime, like seeing Eli Apple make that stand, like stop against a Rik on the goal line. I'm like, holy shit. Like, that's, that's monumental. Like, that's huge for the boys. Um, and we fucking win that shit.
Starting point is 02:12:37 And that was absolutely insane. That was like scenes. So you, so you make it back for the Super Bowl on a, on a grade two plus three MCL. Yep. What was that like trying to get back for the Super Bowl? That was the worst thing ever. That was like the actual worst thing ever.
Starting point is 02:12:53 Like I, that's what I said. Like Nick's the boy. Like, obviously you're not getting surgery. No. You're doing what you can to make it to the Super Bowl. But like talk about, yeah, talk about those next couple weeks.
Starting point is 02:13:01 Yeah. Well, the crazy thing was, um, when I, like at halftime, I go in and they were like, yeah, it's like, you won't need surgery for sure. And the first thing I was like, yo, Nick, like, will I be able, like, can I play for the in the Super Bowl. He was like, I wouldn't count it out. And right when he said that, I was like, I'm cool. Like, I'm dope.
Starting point is 02:13:19 I'm great. That's the first thing I said to coach after we won. I was like, yeah, I'll be back for the Super Bowl. I was like, okay. All right. I have dreams. Yeah, I got you, whatever. Said it to Katie, who's the owner's daughter.
Starting point is 02:13:30 I was like, yeah, like, I'm so sorry. I was like, don't be. I'll be back for the Super Bowl. It's fine. She's like, okay. And yeah, it was just to grind. Like, I was with Nick two, three times a day, just doing just everything I could.
Starting point is 02:13:42 Like, kept it elevated for, two weeks straight, just like, am on the bed? I have a little bed that, like, has the little footlifter, you know what I'm saying? I kept it there. I was like, this sucks. It's annoying as hell. I can't, like, I'm a stomach sleeper myself. I don't know what you are, but... Ooh, no, I'm on my back or side. Really? Back or side. See, I snore. I snore heavy when I'm on my back, so I can't do it.
Starting point is 02:14:05 So I was snoring like crazy. No, we can talk about that after the pot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I got a couple, I got to, do you like, would you rather sleep on your bag? Do you like sleeping on your bag? I like sleeping on my stomach. Oh, you like sleeping on your stomach. Yeah, I like it. It's comfortable. There's no pillow, though.
Starting point is 02:14:18 You like being on your tummy. I'm just going to say stomach. I'm not going to say it like that. That's what it is, man. It's also called the tummy. You like being on your ass? Yeah. You like being on your booty.
Starting point is 02:14:28 Yep. All right, there we go. I'm like being on these cheeks, man. That's reckless. So you're obviously elevating. You're doing everything possible. Yeah. Like, there was never a doubt that you were going to be able to play.
Starting point is 02:14:41 Obviously, you're resting and doing a lot of that shit, but at what point are you getting? get on the field and in testing this shit out. I mean, two, three days before, like a couple days before. Like, we fly out to California. I forget when we get there. Did you do stem cell or anything? PRP stem cell?
Starting point is 02:14:55 Didn't do anything. Steroys? Nope. Okay. Not then. You know what I'm saying? Like, that was, no. Just, no, I mean, I was even like, hey, can we shoot this thing up, like for the
Starting point is 02:15:05 game? And they're like, no, that's not smart. Like, we're not doing that. And I was like, all. You wanted to put Torado all in your knee before the game. Yeah, 100%. I just asked. I was like, hey, can you?
Starting point is 02:15:14 Nah, I mean, I'm not doing that. I will, like, yeah, you're about to play for the Super Bowl. So you're willing to do whatever. Yeah, I understand that. Like any other time, like, people are like, that's like fucking varsity blues trying to inject the quarter zone in the knee and everything. But you're at, this is it. Like, you're at the finish line.
Starting point is 02:15:30 I'm like, dude, I've been dreaming. I mean, I've been playing since I was six years old. I grew up, like, I played Madden with my dad. We made a little, out of a foam, like pool float. We made a Super Bowl trophy. We made the Lombardi. And we would play for it. And I was like, dude, that's the only thing that was going in my head.
Starting point is 02:15:46 I was like, dude, I got to touch that. I fucking love that, by the way. Yeah. So, like, I was like, there's no way in hell I'm not going to play. And so I didn't do anything on the field. I did some stuff in the pool a little bit. And then we fly out to Cali. And Nick was like, all right, we're going to start doing some ladder stuff.
Starting point is 02:16:01 Like, see how you feel. And, dude, California is beautiful. Like, we go from getting stuck on a bus. Because no indoor. So we go from getting stuck on a bus. because it's snow and icing to go to our indoor facility, which is on UC's campus, we get stuck there. We get stuck through four lights because the bus is stuck on a hill.
Starting point is 02:16:22 And we're just sitting here like, how the hell are we going to the Super Bowl? And we're stuck on a hill going to an indoor facility that's not like that we can't just walk to. Like this is absurd to me. So we're all thinking of it. We go from that to California, February, 87 degrees out. I'm walking off the plane like, yep, I feel fucking great. My knee feels better already with this weather.
Starting point is 02:16:45 So we're doing some ladder drills. And he's like, how do you feel? I was like, ramp it up, dude. Fuck it. Let's go. Let's just, let's send it. See what we can do. And he's like, all right. Like, you're not going to hurt it too much more than it's already hurt.
Starting point is 02:16:55 So like, you can do whatever you want to. If you can go through the pain, whatever. It's like, all right, cool. So that first day, we did ladder, change the direction, ran a couple like short routes. And he's like, I'm going to shut you down. Like, personally, I'm just shut you down. Second day, he's like, how do you feel? I'm like, yo, it's stiff.
Starting point is 02:17:09 halfway through he goes how do you feel now I'm like it's still stiff but like fuck it we can just we can push through it and it's like all right cool let's go let's do more and and from that point on like I practiced probably in and out I had maybe like three quarters of a full
Starting point is 02:17:26 practice like total throughout the span of us being in California and throughout those two weeks but yeah you know you've been you're on you're in chemistry you know what everyone's doing it it's the last game of the year you know everything at this point you're watching film so Yeah, it was a, but it was a fucking grind, dude.
Starting point is 02:17:42 That's impressive though, bro. That was fun. Yeah. And during this time, are you thinking about, because you're obviously in your contract year as well, are you thinking about those things? Now, my agent. And if not, is it something when you fast forward to when you're negotiating with the Bengals, you're probably, I would assume, because one year, obviously I've never signed a big deal. But I had a, uh, a big deal. Oh, definitely, no question.
Starting point is 02:18:08 I'm not sleeping on the boy. I'm just speaking from my experience. Right, right. I played on a torn PCL to try and help get us to the playoffs. We end up missing the playoffs. We end up missing the playoffs. we end game at the very end of the year. and then the next year I was a restricted free agent.
Starting point is 02:18:36 I don't know I was exclusive rights before that because I was a peace squad guy. And when it doesn't happen, there's part of you that's pissed off because when you're trying to get back on the field, like I played on the PCL within nine days. Got back on day nine, I was playing in the fucking game. I had like two tackles, but they wanted me out there to signal call and do all that kind of thing, which I was about. Like you, you're ready to fucking die on the field for the boys. But being honorable doesn't get you paid.
Starting point is 02:18:59 When you're going to the negotiations, are you thinking to yourself, like, working that hard to get back, especially for the Super Bowl? Like, you're doing whatever it takes to be out there, even though you tore your MCL. Is there a bitterness that you carry with? Like when it's like, hey, are we not, are we not thinking that, like, I'm, guys, I want to be here and I'll do whatever it takes to be a bengal to have I not shown that these past seven years. And definitely in recency, like, trying to get back to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 02:19:22 Like, are you thinking about those things? I mean, at the time, definitely not, right? Like, at the time, at the time my agent had been like, hey, like, don't kill yourself out there. Your agent's probably trying to talk you out of playing, like, hey. He didn't, though. Like, he was just like. That's good. But usually they're like, don't do it. Don't play injured, don't ever play injured.
Starting point is 02:19:39 And the players are always like, fuck it. Like, we're trying to win games. He was more like, and to be honest, I didn't know how much I was, I didn't think I was going to play the whole game. I thought I was going to be like situational, like 15, 20 plays. I'm out there for the first play because I was like, all right, nice, whatever. And coach is like, my position coach was like, you good?
Starting point is 02:19:56 And I was like, yeah, I'm good. And he just kept, he was like. Like, yeah, I'm good, but also take care of me. Like, pull me back when you think I need to be pulled back. But, like, first half, good. Second half, 45 minute. Half time, it's like, holy shit. Like, I'm stiff as hell now.
Starting point is 02:20:11 45 minutes is tough. But, yeah, I mean, at the time, I'm not thinking of anything, dude. I'm just like, you're fast forward to the negotiation period. Are you, not like that that's you, that's you thinking like, you guys should be taking care of me because I did X, Y, and Z, but you're thinking like, are we not, is there no appreciation and fucking, it seems like you guys are just slapping me in the face for everything I'm trying to do to play.
Starting point is 02:20:32 Right, which is why, like, in my head, I'm like, like, are you going to throw me a bone? Like, are you going to, like, are you going to, like, are you going to, like, are you going to show a little appreciation with, with the fact that I was like, dude, like, screw this, screw the contract, screw everything. I'm trying to make sure I'm out there with the boys to win a Super Bowl and bring that to the organization and the franchise and, like, you know, everything that the city has been, like, gassing us up for. So, yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 02:20:55 Like, that is definitely going on in my mind the entire time. Yeah. Like, even the first. Which is fair. Like, that's the human being, the competitor, like the loyalty, all that. And it's which sucks because you got to remove that when it comes to negotiating. But at the same time, you're like, man, like, that's not coming from a place of, like, I feel entitled and I should, I deserve this.
Starting point is 02:21:13 And I, you better give me this or you guys are fucking stupid. It's just like, damn, like, this is how it's going down. Like, you can't throw me a bone at all. Right, which is then that takes, which helps take the emotional aspect of it out because you're like, damn, this is actually just cutthroat business. Right. It numbs you up. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:29 Like, real, real quick. So, again, which makes it a little bit easier just to be like, all right, like, agent says, hey, just letting you know this is how it is. Cool, I can see that. I can clearly see that that's how it's going to be. Nick's probably texting you. What are you hearing? It's not good, Nick.
Starting point is 02:21:45 You're looking good, buddy. What the hell, dude? Hey, look. We'll take a trip together. We'll be good. Talk about the, talk about the Super Bowl. Like, are there situations that you look back on there where there's like pivotal moments or things could have shaped out this
Starting point is 02:21:59 way. Obviously, you play that in your head no matter what. But, I mean, this is the first off season removed from that Super Bowl. are the things that looks back is like, damn, we win it if we do X, Y, and Z right here in this moment. Because every player lives in their own movie. Man, if I would have done this or had this play shaped out the way we drawn it up or executed the right way, like we went off this game. Like, talk us, talk to us about the Super Bowl. We're sitting around a fire fucking grandpa's talking to the boys.
Starting point is 02:22:24 Yeah, I mean, I'm thinking about it just from my perspective, you know, like, I don't know. Like, certain things, like playing with my knee and stuff. And like, I caught two passes. They were like, it was for nothing. It was like a couple yards, whatever, and I'm just thinking, damn, like, really, I should have, I should have made a little fucking corner miss. And then I would have been one-on-one with the defensive end if I just don't get touched by him for a second and stopped. And we're on, like, the 20-yard line at that point. It's like, all right, cool.
Starting point is 02:22:50 I, like, shove this little sDB off me. And it's a foot race to the end zone in my mind to score as opposed to taking a field, a field goal. Changes the game. You got certain, like, you got certain, like, blocks that you're like, damn, like, man, he was kind of. kind of in the hole, like, the running back really could have just ran off my ass just then, but like, did I, did I block the hole? Right. And I did. So I think of it from that perspective more so than like anybody, like, saying like, oh, wow, this one player, like, if we would have done this one a little bit different, whatever, like.
Starting point is 02:23:22 Was it sickening knowing that Jammar Chase was wide open on that last play? 100%. Yeah. 100%. Sickening. Yeah. For sure. I mean, it, yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:32 You think about that, too, sometimes. Yeah. Like that's what a game though When like OBJ goes down Are you guys thinking like all right Like when you guys are about to play the Rams You want to go get it? Really?
Starting point is 02:23:46 Maybe Hopefully has he texted the group chat? Well then it might not be him What was I saying? So OBJ goes down Oh yeah yeah like when you're about to play the Rams Like obviously they're clicking as well They're in the Super Bowl
Starting point is 02:24:03 They're fucking obviously dude. We, we, Blas, he's not here, but he's a huge 49ers fan. We're like, Blas, so that safety doesn't drop that pick. Niners are going. Yeah. But are there, oh, Steve Burns here, our next guest. Oh, yeah. Fuck.
Starting point is 02:24:23 I keep losing, oh, oh, I keep in the OBJ thing. But, like, you know, as a player, like the human element of all the pieces that they have, because they have a lot of fucking talent on their team. Oh, yeah. Obviously, picking up Von Miller late in the year, OBJ middle of the season. But when OBJ goes down is one of those things to where you're like, All right, hey, we can get this even more because one of their best players go down.
Starting point is 02:24:44 It was actually, that's not even like the thought process. The thought process was we knew like, we knew that the field felt kind of weird, right? Like the paint, the paint, they had to keep going over it in the middle of the field. Really? And so we kind of as a team, like offensively, we were like, a, you know, like that's the spot.
Starting point is 02:25:01 You got to like control yourself. Like you got to be way more controlled. Don't run too full speed. Oh, for real? 100%. That's what we, that's what we talked about. That's what I told the tight ends. immediately. That's what the tied-in coach told us immediately.
Starting point is 02:25:12 That's kind of what we told some of the receivers. Like, hey, just letting you know, like, that spot of the field's a little fucking weird. Like, the paint is... The spot where OBJ tore his knee? Just the paint in the middle of the field in general was... It was a little... It was just different. You know what I'm saying? So it was a little more slick
Starting point is 02:25:27 because they put a little too much... Not too much, but they just put a little more paint there. So we didn't... Personally, I didn't think, damn, nice. This is our shot. Like, it was like... Right, right. Be the fuck. Be careful. Like, in that spot. because that's where, because we couldn't walk there for the team pictures
Starting point is 02:25:42 because they were still going over it during team pictures the day before. And so that's the only thing that was on my mind was, if I'm around this area, especially with my knee, like, I got a tempo. Damn, that sucks to here. Yeah, like, that's like, especially if that's where he, him doing it there too, like that sucks. That sucks that that was like a thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:01 Have you played in London? Yeah. I feel like London is, it's got a little slickness to it. Yeah. But I, I'm biased. I love London, dude. I'm a big soccer guy, so like, playing a Wimbly. Oh, that was historic.
Starting point is 02:26:13 That's historic. What? I was going crazy. I hated having the whole fly over there thing. Did you guys fly over on Thursday or did you spend a week over there? Brutal. Stocked. Wait, did you do anything the night before?
Starting point is 02:26:24 Like, did you have a team activity or something? I don't think so. I just remember I was trying to catch up on sleep and shit like that. Dude, first time we went over there. We had a team activity on London Tower Bridge. You don't have a- No, we had nothing like that. You don't have a police escort. We were in the car for like two and a half.
Starting point is 02:26:39 We got there for 30 minutes and they're like, damn, yeah, we didn't, we didn't think this one through. We got to go back. Oh, no. I'm like, what the hell are we doing out here? Because our practice feels like we had the bus for, I felt like quite a bit to go over this little like middle school baseball field that we practiced on. Oh, yeah. Brutal. Yeah, we did that.
Starting point is 02:26:56 So, yeah. It's right when you land like your sleep is that night. Like, as you're on the plane, you're supposed to get your sleep. Uh, dudes are popping like the sleeping pills. What is it? Amiant? Oh, Melaton. Yeah, well, I'm not talking the natural melaton.
Starting point is 02:27:07 I'm talking to melaton. This man. Yeah, we got to go out. Yeah, yeah, we got to go out. And then you land and it's Friday morning, right? So fast Friday begins when you get all your stuff at the hotel. Brutal. It's a brutal experience, dude.
Starting point is 02:27:18 Then you fly back right after the game. We played the Bengals and we fucking tied when I was on Washington. That's the team that's the time that I'm talking about. That's the time where we were there? You were there? 100%. Oh, fuck. Yeah, that's when I'm like, yo, we had a, we had a.
Starting point is 02:27:33 How brutal was that game? Dude. Don't go back and forth? And then, hey, we got the ball out. on Andy when this, oh my God. Listen, we're over here too, and everyone knows I'm a huge soccer fan. Everyone knows I'm a huge soccer fan. And I'm like, I'm like, I can't believe we came over here in Tide. And everyone's like, yeah, these British people, they are used to this shit. They watch soccer all the time. They're used to zero, zero one, one, two, two. That doesn't mean
Starting point is 02:28:00 shit to them. It means something else. I was like, no, this shit still sucks. Like, you didn't know how to celebrate. Yeah. You kind of feel like you won, but then you see the kicker and you're like, Hey, man, it's all good. Because the kickers were basically missed. So I guess you guys turned it over. Did your kicker get a shot? No, we had that turnover. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:15 Bro, it was nuts, man. And you don't know how to feel. You're like, are we going to party on the plane ride back? Oh, people still party. I didn't. I was like, dude, I'm just. Everybody still party. I didn't party either, but everybody partied on the way back.
Starting point is 02:28:26 I didn't party. No, no, I don't drink. Definitely don't remember too much of the plane ride. Yeah, because I was asleep. Is there anything I'm not hitting on boys? Super Bowl. Okay. Ooh.
Starting point is 02:28:41 Can we talk about that? That's right. Now, there are some, there were some storylines out there. No, K and I, K and I. You and K. Adams. Yeah. One of the hosts of, hang on, let me. He still wants to talk.
Starting point is 02:28:54 He still wants to talk about it. She's a stud. She's for the boys. We're a big fan of K. Adams over here. But there are obviously some tabloids going around. You know, the magazines of Walmart showing that, you know, you and K. Adams were a thing. Seems like you're both very.
Starting point is 02:29:08 private about your dating life. So there was never any truth to be brought from it. However, are you dating K. Adams? No, no, I wasn't. And I am relatively private about, like, I, like I like being private about my stuff, especially like, honestly, especially now being in New York,
Starting point is 02:29:24 it's reckless. Like, people, like, if someone, I was talking to some of the Mets players and like, hey, like, my girl, like, kind of deletes her or like goes private and does all this random shit because she will just get blown up by people. I'm like, all right, that's good to know. Like, even if you're not doing anything, he's like, oh, no, like, I've been, it's just like,
Starting point is 02:29:43 his name's Pete Alonzo, Pete, I fucking love you. And he was just like, hey, I'm going to be honest. I've been with my girl since high school. And she still gets blown up. She knows, I'm with her that night and she's getting blown up like. Just about him, the, him playing in the game. No, just like him like, oh, yeah, I was with Pete last night, blah, blah. And she's like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 02:29:58 Like, who the hell even is this? Like, I was with you last night. Like, yeah. So I'm private in that regard, thankfully. but then something comes out and they're like, oh shit, is this true? And I don't want to say anything because I'm like, dude, I'm private. I'm not trying to like say whatever. But no, like we were homies, like good people.
Starting point is 02:30:17 Like you said, she's for the boys. She's a good person. She's awesome. Being on like, good morning football. I was like, oh, this is dope, whatever. But now we were not, we were not dating. I'm not going to touch him. I'm not going to touch him.
Starting point is 02:30:33 No, no, we were not. We were not. Just getting my hand out there. I already know that's how it's going to look for you, J.P. then you're going to put me like drinking this water bottle right here in his hand you're going to like Photoshop his hand there so it looks like I'm doing it Yeah exactly Just try to hear of and touch his fingers
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Starting point is 02:31:59 Yeah. It's a fun one. We came up with this one. The boys came up with this one yesterday. So our Tier Talk this week is going to be best grades in school. growing up kindergarten K through or I mean if you remember the preschool days you want to throw preschool shout out
Starting point is 02:32:13 preschool through grade 12 that is what our tier talks is going to be tiering them one through three your top three your favorite grades growing up do you want to go first or do we make the back of the bus go first? We make the back of the bus go first for sure
Starting point is 02:32:27 Is it a collective effort or like how we collective do you usually do collective efforts? We've only done it once usually it's just a guest and will who do the tier talks and we'll do shoutouts, but I mean, I think we can rattle off like a tier three pretty easily,
Starting point is 02:32:45 at least for me. We all might have different. Yeah, I mean, go ahead. Yeah, like JP might have got bullied in certain grades. So he might not remember him the right way. Check the tape. I was prom king. Oh, talk to your shit.
Starting point is 02:32:58 Senior year. So my favorite, were we all just going to say our favorite? Are we going to give you three? Oh, yeah, all right. All right. Favorite fifth grade for sure. sure. I was peaking athletically.
Starting point is 02:33:11 We had the fastest mile time, fastest pacer test, or most laps on the pacer test, fastest swimmer in the county in 25 meter freestyle. I made a half-court shot at a high school basketball game at halftime, and everybody was going crazy. And I was like, electric. And the coach came up to me. He's like, can't wait until you're in high school, man. Hey, I was like, oh, my guy, that's some rap. I'm going to the lead.
Starting point is 02:33:35 That's real, though, bro. Like, that's part of one of my, like, that's part of one of my, descriptions, like, but that is fucking real. Yeah. So fifth grade for me. Okay. Obviously, honorable mentioned senior year is great for everyone, but if you use senior years, you number one, you just had a shitty upbringing in high school. It means that you had to wait until your last year.
Starting point is 02:33:53 You shouldn't have said that. I was hoping, I was hoping this is going to be. All right. So for me, it's freshman year of high school. You just love middle school and you were the top dog and now you're the lowest in the totem pole. You thought you're cool and you were like truly. truly dog shit to everyone that walks the halls. But if you were special, like myself,
Starting point is 02:34:13 you might have been friends with a couple of the upper classmen. Juniors and the seniors, I, you know, start running around with. You start dapping up some of the homies in the hallway. You think you're cool. But I remember my sister, she ratted on me to my mom freshman year, and she was like, Jack cannot be hanging out with kids in my grade anymore. She's like, like, they're starting to like him more than me. And like, I'm like, hey, like, I don't know what to tell you.
Starting point is 02:34:36 Like, and I was, I was a like short little fat kid freshman year. So it was like, it was an adversity battle all uphill. But for me, freshman year, there's so much potential and like opportunity for growth. You really don't have too much going on. It's easy classes. And yeah, a whole change of scenery. So freshman year is tier one. So you've been into Cougars off rip, huh?
Starting point is 02:34:57 You've always been in the older women like, man. What do you got, Garrett? I'm going to go a sophomore year for the, some of the same reasons hanging out with the older guys on our lacrosse team. They used to just take me around all the time to all the parties. So that's always fun when you're a young dude and sophomore year because that's usually when you get your driver's license. And so it's that first time like, like you freshman year's epic. It kind of sucks in your guys' descriptions because like, oh, damn.
Starting point is 02:35:31 If you're a junior year, it's okay. No, I'm talking about you're right about sophomore year when you get your driver's license. Yeah, because you're still young, but they're, then you get that little bit of like, I'm free. Like, I can just drive myself places now. Now you can, like, pile in your homies to drive places. So I think sophomore year for me was like that one year where you're like, all right, let's get it. That's big time.
Starting point is 02:35:53 Yeah. So you guys just sang your tier ones? I guess. Just our bus. Yeah. We got fifth freshman sophomore. I like those picks boys. I do.
Starting point is 02:36:03 I think that's very good. I think you guys are very fucking good. All right. C.J. I'm in, I'm in Terry's seat, so I'm going to go last. No, no, no, no. You're first. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:36:15 You go first. Actually, if Taylor is on today, I was going to make the case that I believe I should go last because I feel like the record recently is displayed that I've earned the spot the right to go last. I mean, usually you all say, like, guess is right, but that's fine. Yeah, I'll go first. I like, I like, I like what they all said. I guess usually goes first. I guess you does usually go first. And it was a toss-up for me.
Starting point is 02:36:41 It really was. It was between, for tier one, it was between... Start with Tier 3. Oh, you must start with Tier 3. Yeah, build it up. Build it up. And if you've listened, so if you get crafty,
Starting point is 02:36:51 you can throw in a little honorable mention on the side. My honorable mention is pre-K nap time. Oh, so you have a pre-K honorable mention. I love that. Always. Pre-K nap time was goaded. Like, and I remember it. I remember just being like, oh, nice.
Starting point is 02:37:05 Like, on the playground, You're running around. You're going crazy. You get back in. You got your nap time. That nap time was, I mean, electric. Like that's what more, right now, we're in practice, right? We have the craziest practice.
Starting point is 02:37:19 We go through camp. Coach says, you know what? No meetings. Nap time. I'm going to be honest. Nat time was a nightmare from me because I went to bed until I was a teenager. So anytime I fell asleep, it was like, Freddie Krueger's coming for me. And I'd wake up with a soaked cot.
Starting point is 02:37:33 You know what I mean? I'm just going to be honest. I'm trying to blame the kid. I'm trying to blame the kid next to me or figure out how I get out of this situation. So pre-K, like, you know, nap time was always, like, staying over friends' houses. Like, there was some chess being played as I went over there. I would have... The doctor who told my mom that I had to stop drinking Kool-Aid by 7 p.m.
Starting point is 02:37:51 Stop drinking Kool-Aid in general, then just drink water or something. Well, just stop drinking liquid. Like, there was no water when you're a young kid. It's like, give me some Kool-Aid. Yeah, that's facts. Like, water was boring. You're not about, like, water tastes shitty when you're a little kid. I keep going with my tears, but I just want to say,
Starting point is 02:38:05 that whatever your tier list is, if it is a grade that's under 13, like under the age of being 13, I'm going to judge you a little bit because I'm going to be like, damn, like, it's a good year for you. I still be in the bed a little bit. Like, that's tough.
Starting point is 02:38:18 I still have some prime years. That's fine. So, tier three, we're going to go one year after pre-K, kindergarten, miss head of summer. Loved the class. I thought I was a,
Starting point is 02:38:30 I thought I was the coolest person ever had. Wait, what grade is this? Kindergarten. You're going pre-K and Kine. kindergarten for two three and two? No, no, no, no. Oh, that was honorable mention. My fault.
Starting point is 02:38:40 Undergarten is Tier 3, and it's because it's a multitude of things, but I thought I was the coolest person because in the classroom, I had two girlfriends. I had Rebecca and Madison. I remember all my teacher's names through and through. Miss Head of Simer, coolest teacher. She was friends with my mom because my mom's a teacher. And in class, I could kind of just do whatever I wanted to, essentially, right? Like, and it was, you got popcorn reading and it would be like, popcorn Rebecca, Rebecca with popcorn me.
Starting point is 02:39:12 Popcorn, Madison, Madison would have popcorn me. I'd be like, damn, I'm just getting tagged. I'm getting the pie. Hey, look, you see what's going on. And then, Miss Head of Simon would be like, okay, you have to popcorn someone else. All right, popcorn DJ. This other kid DJ was in my class. He would popcorn it back to me.
Starting point is 02:39:28 I'd be like, all right, cool, we did it. We're back on what we're doing. So I thought I was hot shit, man. It was kindergarten. when Rebecca had an older sister, she was in fifth grade. I'd be like, hey, how are you doing? Her name was Kayla. I was like, hey, how are you doing, Kayla?
Starting point is 02:39:41 People died, oh, my God, he's talking to a fifth grader. Boom. Tier three, kindergarten. Easy. All right. Tier two. Love that story time, by the way. Popcorn and K.
Starting point is 02:39:51 That's good. This guy. Tier two, staying in elementary school. I'm going to fifth grade. Oh. Fifth grade, that was a great. I mean, fifth grade, was amazing. Fifth grade is a really good time. So I actually changed schools in fifth grade and I went to
Starting point is 02:40:12 McKendry or I went to I went to another school where my mom teaches now or taught. And at the time, like she's a teacher, whatever. I'm in fifth grade. Like, oh, wow. Like, who are you going to get for a teacher? Like, you're going to get the best teacher. If your mom's a teacher, you're going to get the best teacher at a school. And so I had Ms. Thompson. Ms. Thompson, like, My favorite teacher to this, to this day, she was awesome. I was a little shit. I talked a lot. There were certain times where she would put me in this little, like,
Starting point is 02:40:42 spot that had a cubby in it, whatever. But like after hours, it was me, Tanner and Tyler, who their mom, their mom was also a teacher down the hall from my mom. And we would just, like, we would just do whatever the, whatever the hell we wanted to in the school. We'd go into the cafeteria. We had this little ball that we'd play with. We throw it at shit, like break some shit.
Starting point is 02:41:00 There's flags that hang down in the cafeteria of all the countries. We'd be like messing with those. switching them around. Like, we were absolute menaces. I was in the, I was in the play. I was the lead in Humpty Dumpty. Oh, it was great.
Starting point is 02:41:12 Hey, you could pull this picture. I'll send you boys a picture so you can use it. Yes, we need those. No, like, it was the lead in Humpty Dumpty. No, come on. I was going crazy. It was, it was fifth grade. Solid.
Starting point is 02:41:24 I mean, that wasn't peak, but that was close. That was as close to peak as you can get. So that's tier two. Tier number one. I got taken already. That's okay. That's okay. But I'm going to go with G on this one.
Starting point is 02:41:40 Tier 1, sophomore year of high school. G. Absolutely electric. One of the most memorable times of my life, started getting offers for college there. Started playing in varsity as a receiver at the time. Got my license. Didn't even use my license for the most part because I had a senior
Starting point is 02:42:04 take me to class or take me to school every day. Senior. Senior girl. Okay. Yep. I don't know if you're going to say like. No. Okay.
Starting point is 02:42:12 So she was captain of the football team. She was, she was captain of the basketball team. But she was my homie. So I met, she was like an actual, like, really good friend. So I met my prom date. Yep. I'll give you that. I met my prom date sophomore year through her, who was a volleyball player who went to Wake Forest.
Starting point is 02:42:31 Six to, I'm, sophomore year, I'm still six. five, six, whatever. Like, I'm still the same size. So you see two big ass people coming to prom. Me and I was one of two sophomores that went to our prom. Fire. Come on. I was like, Dan, this is sick.
Starting point is 02:42:49 I come in with Megan, I'm like, damn. You see our tall asses out here. We're avatars. You see what's going on. It was, I mean, it was go to the playoffs, go deep in the playoffs, score in the playoffs, like, start getting, I mean, it was just sophomore year. sophomore year is a good one yeah man I'm sitting here listening to you guys talking like man I enjoyed my life growing up right like life was fun life was good it's it's actually hard to choose out of these um honorable mention um with jack on this one like I think everybody enjoyed their senior year my senior year like senior year was fucking awesome homecoming king all this stuff going to Nebraska all that stuff you're a homecoming king yeah oh wait who was who was One step down.
Starting point is 02:43:35 Who was not in, who was not homecoming king here? Yes. No. What? Maybe at your school, at our school was all about homecoming. That's early in the year. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:45 Ours was homecoming too. Ours was all about homecoming. Homecoming was like a joke at our school. Spear week. Oh, we did spear week. Yeah, no,
Starting point is 02:43:53 so we did the whole night because I was homecoming thing too. So prom king and queen for us was like, like you just pick two people that you want to date to be homecoming king and queen so that they finally just like kiss. Yeah. We were just egg on to kiss. So that's what our prom king and queen was. So I'm with you.
Starting point is 02:44:09 I'm with you. I'm with you. Hey. Don't let the back of the bus to tourists. Yeah, go off. But yeah, honorable mention, you got to give shots to senior. Your senior was absolutely unbelievable. I think you guys said so many fucking good things that sparked a lot of memories.
Starting point is 02:44:21 The freshman year vibe hit her sophomore year with the driver's license. Incredible. My tier three, I'm going to shout out. Wait, it's not the shout out segment. But my tier three is junior year. junior year was all time. Yes, as freshman year,
Starting point is 02:44:40 you're like the little, no one gives you shit about you. Side note, varsity freshman year. The boys, the seniors took care of the boy. I never got taped. I never got hazed. So I could have, I was thinking about putting freshman year in there,
Starting point is 02:44:53 but Jack explained freshman year very well. If you were cool enough to be like, have a couple connects. But as you go through high school, you are now like junior year, you're now close with, the seniors, right? Like being being like a good athlete, you're in
Starting point is 02:45:08 with the guys who are right ahead of you, they're the studs. You can like, you play your role. You're a stud yourself. But you know you let the seniors continue to do whatever that they want to do. But you're tight. Everybody's tight with each other. Junior year, I was also, I got my high school girlfriend at the time who was like my, like my best friend growing up.
Starting point is 02:45:28 So it's kind of like a one tree hill moment. When you get like your girlfriend, it was junior year for me. The boy was also. state wide receiver. I started getting, I wasn't as fortunate as you. My offer started to roll in junior year. So you just felt like the big dog on campus. Like you started to get ranked on like rivals and shit. I was a Nike MVP at one of the camps. Like junior year was a very prosperous year for young William. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Awesome. My tier two, my tier one, tier two, I'm sure with all of us, these can all be interchangeable because we'd all
Starting point is 02:45:59 love to go back to school right now. But my tier two is going to be. be fourth grade. So fourth grade for me, and you guys know the boy loves Dairy Queen. I love blizzards. I love all of it. Bro, I went to a Catholic school in grades one through four. And every day, because our class was made up of three grades. There were seven of us in the class combined three grades. There was four, there was four fourth graders, one fifth grader, and two sixth graders. And it was me, Logan, Chuck, like, boys that I'm boys with to this day. And we just, like, we had Dairy Queen for lunch every day. Every day, bro, you got to order Dairy Queen. You got like a little cup of ice cream. You got the burger. I'm not lying. Huh? No. This is at school.
Starting point is 02:46:55 Because there wasn't that many kids, like, in the entire school. There was, it was grades, maybe preschool through, preschool through sixth grade. And in fourth or six, there's only seven kids total in the entire classroom. But fourth grade, like, getting to order Derry Queen in the sports world, like, that was our first year playing tackle football. And when I say I might have one of the best fourth grade highlight tapes out there, comparable to, like, Reggie Bush in college and Tavon Austin in high school, Will and fourth grade was a different fucking animal.
Starting point is 02:47:31 I might have to go through, I might have to go through that old foot. and put a little, yeah, I got some tape, the VCRs. Like, I had the parents to where my dad's on the sign-long with me and my mom's filming the entire game type of, I had that kind of family. It was fucking awesome. Those were the days. And one day I scored six touchdowns, boys. I'm talking four on the ground.
Starting point is 02:47:52 I'm talking five on the ground and one on defense for a pick six. And I was living the dream. I was playing baseball that year. We're 10 years old, so I'm on the 10-year-old team. I made it to the All-Star team. Our 10-year-old team made it all the way to the Little League World Series in the Cal Ripkin Junior League. However, they didn't tell us until after we won regionals. We go through district.
Starting point is 02:48:13 We lost in the set. We lost in the quarter, so we had to come back in the losers bracket, beat the team twice to win in districts. State, we walk through state. We sweep them. We fucking 10-run rule those boys. We 10-run rule those boys in four innings in state. It was Sykston. Hey, then we get to the regionals.
Starting point is 02:48:32 We go up to Iowa. Go to the field of dreams. We get to do that whole thing. We go to Iowa. We're at Reginals. I find $300 under my hotel bed at a red roof in. I thought I was fucking living. We go to like one of the big balls or whatever,
Starting point is 02:48:45 and I'm like spending this 300 thinking it came unclaimed. We took it to the front desk, but nobody claimed this $300. So I'm rich. You're rich as a fucking 10-year-old kid with $300. And then we go to regionals. We lose in the second round. We come all the way back and beat Kansas twice in the championship to win. Our coach comes over to us.
Starting point is 02:49:04 It says, boys, I didn't want to have to break this to you because we didn't want to take away from the experience. But they just, they informed us when we got here at the start of the tournament that the Cow Ripkin Jr., they weren't going to have a 10-year-old, the 10-year-old tournament representing in the World Series. So they basically just like, they hosted us at the World Series. We got to like step out in the middle of the field and wave and do all that. But baseball and football prime years fourth grade. Now, my tier one, the way I just read it off fourth grade, I might have to just say, I might have to just. say that's my I gotta make some notes
Starting point is 02:49:35 because I'm gonna let you keep talking. My, my tier one, I'm going to say is eighth grade was my most fun time in school. Because seventh grade,
Starting point is 02:49:45 like, you know, now this is, hang on, this is my time. Like, let's not try to kill the vibe. Well,
Starting point is 02:49:53 what we doing? So eighth grade. From the top, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. My tier one is eighth grade. Let me tell you why,
Starting point is 02:50:01 because we have a fucking hater literally right next to me, but I will not let him, I will not let him bring this adversity to me. So you know how I said in junior year when you're tight with those boys that are seniors? When you're in seventh grade, they're kind of like, when you're like that,
Starting point is 02:50:15 how old are you then? Like when you're in those like early teenage years, 12, 13, those early, like teenage years, like the boys are kind of like not, you used to keep it tight with your guys. The grade above you, they're kind of like assholes or kind of dicks. They think they're the man.
Starting point is 02:50:29 You're kind of entering out of elementary school going in the seventh grade. You don't feel like the big dog. Yeah. But eighth grade, when I say we got to run around and do whatever we wanted because all my boys'
Starting point is 02:50:37 teachers were moms and one of my favorite teachers of all times, Mrs. Kiekech, shout out, Mrs. Kikak, no free shout-outs. Pre-algebra was the best fucking time. I'm talking, that's when you're wheeling
Starting point is 02:50:47 and dealing candy bars for your baseball league. You can look at me all you want to. That's big time. When you're making money side hustling and eating candy bars in class, not only that,
Starting point is 02:50:58 but eighth grade, high-jump record, four-by-one record, four-by-two record, relay high-jump record, and I was also like the hurdle district champion. Maybe the peak of my entire athletic career was in eighth grade. But yeah, my tier one is definitely eighth grade.
Starting point is 02:51:14 I felt like the vibes were the highest. We were, the boys were the best of friends. That's when I started sprinting to the cafeteria for lunchtime, not caring who's in my way. We knew the principal. One of my boys' dads, he was the principal of the fucking school. Like, we ran it, bro. And it was fucking awesome.
Starting point is 02:51:29 And I was on my travel baseball team. We were number one in the state this year, the rage. Shout out of the rage. No free shoutouts. that 10-year-old team that won in fourth grade, they stayed together. They stayed together and created a fucking dynasty. And we went all the way to eighth grade and we were number one in the state. We got third in the gold division in the World Series.
Starting point is 02:51:45 That's my tier talk. All right. You got them? There will be no honorable mention. There will be no honorable mention. You heard of him? He said there will be no honorable mention. My tier three is going to be my sophomore year of high school.
Starting point is 02:52:03 It was a fantastic year. We won the state championship. we went 15 and 0. Oh, wow, that is a good year. A good year. I made my, like, my best core friend group I've ever had, like, for as long as we've been friends. It was unbelievable.
Starting point is 02:52:16 It hurt. No. I thought you got hurt by that or something. No, I'm excited. I thought I saw some sadness in the eyes. No, once you said a core group of friends forever and I'm thinking like, oh, shit, like, yeah, that's a pivotal time. Like, you keep in touch with those boys?
Starting point is 02:52:28 My freshman year, like, I was still trying to, like, figure out. I was coming out of eighth grade, which was a fucking, like, oh, oh, my God, a year for me. It was awful. And so freshman year was really just trying to get the training wheels back on and figure out how to go through this life without being a degenerate. And then sophomore year hit and I was like a part of this crew. We call each other the sexy six. If you look back on pictures, we definitely weren't the sexy six.
Starting point is 02:52:49 But it was Kenny Proden, Cody January, uh, fucking Anthony Stevens, Tommy Nevin, Nick Bennett and myself. The fucking boys, dude. And we went every weekend, we would go to Anthony's house. He had the side little, little place, a little, guest house called the Cavoni. And we would just figure out any way we could to find beer. And we'd have like parties over there.
Starting point is 02:53:11 We would like, Anthony was like our fearless leader. And that was like the first time of my life, I was like, damn, like, all you really need is friends. I'm part of something bigger than myself right now. Yeah. Yeah. All I really need is friends. And we won state. Got a ring. Yeah, that's big time. Your boy had eight tackles, two TFLs, a sack fumble, thumpel. That game. Wow.
Starting point is 02:53:30 Yeah. Your boy was fucking bawling. Shout out Sean January for having 147 tackles at your two. It's fucking... John January, I was the middle linebacker. A realtor. Yeah, older brother. Fucking, let me tell you about a heart drop voice. Stud.
Starting point is 02:53:44 Stud. Paper bones, though. That kid would break everything. That is my tier three. My tier two is first grade. Because it was going to be kindergarten and Miss Berlin's class. You were in Miss Burland's class for kindergarten and first. But kindergarten low-key, like, you're kind of finding out the dynamics of how the real world's going to work.
Starting point is 02:54:03 It was just like your first time in school. Unless you went to, like, preschool. she really don't even count either. First grade, your boy probably peaked from a popularity standpoint. Dude, there was this girl in my class. She was a twin.
Starting point is 02:54:14 Her name was Courtney Beale. And I missed her to this day, dude. I had the biggest crush on her. That's what I found out. I liked girls. And I also had a Lion King lunchbox that I would walk into the cafeteria with holding like this.
Starting point is 02:54:27 And all the kids would be like, yeah, like fire it up on it. And I'd put it down in the middle and I'd open it up and eat my fucking wonder bed with turkey and she probably. Or if your boy was real lucky, you just kind of open it and shake it.
Starting point is 02:54:40 And there comes out the uncrustable pack. Not the uncrustable. The lunchable pack. But it was just a fantastic year. Not a whole lot of responsibility. My biggest issue was there was a carpet with letters around it. And it was my job every single day to be able to sit at the tea. And if I didn't get the tea, it was a bad day.
Starting point is 02:54:56 And if I got to the tea, it was a good day. That was kind of like to be all and all of how my day was going to go. So I think first grade was definitely number two to me. And my number one, dude, contrary to popular belief on this bus, goes to a phenomenal All-American senior year. I thought senior year was the coolest shit. I had so much fun. Your boy played two football games, sent those tape in, became an All-American, got 30 offers in three months. It was a wild.
Starting point is 02:55:31 It was a wild ascend into football. All of a sudden, I was way more handsome and attractive. to all the girls. I was having I was giving out my jersey, left, right and center, abusing my power. Having so much fun, dude, feeling like the top dog on campus. It was a fucking blast. Lost two games that year. One to
Starting point is 02:55:48 Sororo, 21 to 0, and then next one to fucking Sororro in the state championship 38 to 0. But... Oh, God. Yeah, they had some boys out there. You thought you were coming after him, too, like, remember that first game, boys? Remember that first game, boys? In that first game, in that first game,
Starting point is 02:56:05 Dwayne Garrett, who you met at that steakhouse, the running back. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Couldn't catch anything. Cannot. That dude had brick hands. Goes up, snipes a double hand grab in the back of the end zone to make it 7-7 going into halftime. I thought you lost 38 nothing. Yeah, but there was a penalty.
Starting point is 02:56:25 Holding. Face mask number 77. That shit went back, bro. Oh, no, dude. He brings that shit up to this day. That's how I said he was. He caught the ball. like I've never seen, like an Odell from like 2014 type catch.
Starting point is 02:56:40 But with two hands. With two hands. I took that shit away from him, bro. Cried. My fucking face off after we lost that first game. Cried. You wanted to shake hands? I'm like, get your fucking hand on my face, bro.
Starting point is 02:56:51 Wouldn't shake no hands. You know that second game too. They thought they were coming for at all. I'm about to take everyone. I'm taking lives today. Look at your teammates next to you. That Friday night light speech. Clear eyes, full heart can't lose.
Starting point is 02:57:05 Damn, bro. And if we played them 10 more times, we'd have lost 10 more times. They were so much better than us. Damn. They had like eight dudes go D1 on offense and defense. Yeah. Offense and defense. Who went?
Starting point is 02:57:17 Six guys in their teams didn't go D1. Who went first round, though? None. Come on. Look him, dude. That's right, Jackie. That's right, Jackie. Fucking take that.
Starting point is 02:57:26 But Jack, what did you think of his tier talk? I love it. And for me, personally, my senior year kicked ass, too. I love senior year. When we go check the tape, you will see how. I had an honorable mention a senior year. I know.
Starting point is 02:57:38 I just think everyone's senior year, hopefully, if you played your cards right, was just out of this world. You're saying senior year's God tier. Yes. But I didn't, I didn't say God tier in there. I gave it an honorable mention.
Starting point is 02:57:50 If I had played it right, if you had a, if you have to say senior years you're number one, then your childhood growing up was tough. Basically, you didn't have other grades to compete. We'll have to just check the tape.
Starting point is 02:58:03 Okay. Because the way Will explains me It was very negative. I know. Me and CJ and Will. I go, they go, what would be your number one year of school? I was like, oh, senior year and they both go like this. I look at each other.
Starting point is 02:58:17 And I'm like, yo, what the fuck? Did I say something in my mouth? There's something in my face. Oh, yo, yo. You can't see that on there. You could tell when I. When I'm afraid of Jack. When I said it on the bus, you could tell that there was some very scary fear.
Starting point is 02:58:29 If you said senior year, you were going to get dog. But that wasn't where I was going with it. I bet like that was the vibe. Maybe I read the room wrong, the energy wrong. Damn, bro. You'll see it. High school for real is the best, though. Middle school, low-key is the worst fucking...
Starting point is 02:58:43 Bro, awful. Like, that's just when puberty's starting to hit. You don't know which way's up. Yeah, but you get that. Seventh grade was a good year, though, because I learned to masturbate. When you get it rolling. I was going to say that's when you get it wrong.
Starting point is 02:58:55 A lot of time up. What's that? That's when you get it rolling. I was going to say... Yeah, you start looking at... Cranking them out. Yes. Yeah, looking at them home goods a different way.
Starting point is 02:59:03 Anything you get it. You look at a poster the wrong way? bro. Boy's an Ivy, Batman? Come on now. What? Now we're back to the episode. Bro, it got to where baseball's travel was all year round,
Starting point is 02:59:16 and I was burnt out on it. I was way more excited for like seven-on-seven. Like, when I got asked to do varsity and partake in the seven-on-seven my freshman year, I was like on cloud nine. It gives me goosebumps. I got chills right now thinking about it. When I got to go work out the varsity
Starting point is 02:59:31 early in the morning, you're like, you're like having protein chicks for the first time. Like you're like the fucking like you're going to do it. Yeah. And then they're like asking you to go play on the 7 on 7 team. And it's just like that was during the summer. So I kind of just nicks baseball after that. No, I forgot to talk about 7 on 7s are,
Starting point is 02:59:49 were. I think now it's a little more political and there's like different teams and stuff. But 7 on 7 with your high school team, there was nothing better. Dude, so fucking awesome. I mean, we, we traveled to Bama. We traveled to South Carolina. Oh shit. You guys, oh, yeah, no.
Starting point is 03:00:03 Like, even, you guys travel to the different states. Yeah. And, like, Lil Wayne was bumping every single time. Bro, Carter 3 was going crazy. And, I mean, it was, that was life for sure. So I'm with you on that. I, couple questions. Why in laughter on eighth grade?
Starting point is 03:00:17 Let's talk about it. Middle school, like, talking to, middle school was the, that's the worst of the three, elementary middle high school. That's the, middle school to me is the, it's the worst. Oh, you start figuring out how to work. the boy downstairs. You started learning about porn in eighth grade. Okay.
Starting point is 03:00:38 I mean, those are incredible times. Cool. Cool. You're learning about, I mean, you could figure it out later. Clean up the computer because there were viruses all over it. And we tried blaming everybody else, obviously, except ourselves. Yeah, you have to at that point. It sounded so proud saying that.
Starting point is 03:00:54 I'm just saying there's like good times in eighth grade, man. Before you go to high school, before you have to grow up for real. But you don't, though. Like, wait, well, how many people were in your high school? Because you were in fourth grade with seven people. Okay, so it's different ones. After fourth grade, we were out of Catholic private, and then we went to public school.
Starting point is 03:01:12 So our graduating class, mine was 240. Okay. That's a little better for sure. I just loved eighth grade, bro. Like, when I say, like, all of our boys, like, their parents were teachers, and, like, one of my boys' dad was, like, the principal. And you started, like, so Little League playing football growing up, the last year was seventh grade.
Starting point is 03:01:35 They nixed the middle school football seventh grade program back when I was there. They were asking me to play in eighth grade as a seventh grader in the community league. Or there were whispers. There were rumors about it. It never happened. It never transpired. But like getting in the eighth grade was like the first time you get to put on for your school and start traveling around and playing other teams like in the area versus just playing
Starting point is 03:01:53 community foot tackle football. Did you guys have like an AB team or no? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You talking about an eighth grade? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:01:59 Yeah. The A team were playing and then the B team goes out there for like a quarter or something like that. Well, no, we had two just different teams. Like we had like an A, North Cornet A and a North Carolina at B. Like it were two separate teams. It wasn't like. Both play on Friday, but just different. Like different times.
Starting point is 03:02:18 So it was the best team, team A? Yeah. Right. Yeah. But like not for like just like people would come out. You'd watch the B team play and then the A team would play right afterwards. So you play four quarter. We had a big, I mean, it was a big.
Starting point is 03:02:29 school. So we had a lot of people just playing. Eight grade just sucked, dude. I don't know. Like, seventh grade sucks. Sixth grade sucks. Like, damn, you got these periods now. You're going out like, damn, I don't have just one teacher. I got to go to this teacher and I got to go to that teacher. We had trailers. I'm like, dude, I'm out in the trailers. I'm in eighth grade. Why the hell am I walking out for the trailers? But before school, you would have like that home room and we would always have like certain games that go on. So say you're a home room. Mrs. Mrs. Worley was my teacher. Say you had the home room, right? You would have like intermurals before school. So we would have Mrs. Worley's class was a team.
Starting point is 03:03:02 You would go and play like hockey in the gym before school started. Like to me, eighth grade is like fucking. What kind of school did you go to, my guy? 7.30 a.m.? Yeah, like in the morning. Like early in the morning. Yeah. Did we play like intermurals?
Starting point is 03:03:16 Like that's when I played all four of the sports. I was probably played football, basketball, baseball, and track. And that was like the first time doing track. And I was really good at it as like an eighth grader. And, you know, obviously you guys heard the tier talk had those records. young king I think middle school the one of the things
Starting point is 03:03:33 I agree about middle school being like not at the top for me was sixth grade you have to like use a locker and like get books and go to class true stress that was the first time you felt stress in your life sixth grade no doubt eighth grade was fun
Starting point is 03:03:49 but we were always in trouble bro like we did everything you were talking about running around but we were just getting so much trouble so eighth grade like you had to walk on eggshells they took our eighth grade trip away. Dude, well, it, yeah, we got, we got some, that sucks.
Starting point is 03:04:04 We got some back of the bus driving right now talking about mid for middle school. I think that's, that is exactly what it is mid. Middle school is mid. You're playing the mid. I meant to get it up there when you were talking, Will. And then it just, just to fucking be funny, like, have it up there. Yeah. But even, even like your, even like your eighth grade team won in state, cool, right?
Starting point is 03:04:27 We didn't win state. We got to play. Number one instant. You said you're ranked one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ranked one, first and state, cool. Did you have $300 under your mattress when you went to a motel when you were traveling? No.
Starting point is 03:04:39 In eighth grade? No. No, you're right. But my man, if you, if you listen, if you would have been listening to me, I said, I think we can all agree that all these are interchangeable. Like it was, I went, I went based off peak athletic career, I felt like. Okay, so okay. And eighth grade to me was like, I mean, I was a, don't get me wrong, I was a dog throughout
Starting point is 03:04:57 all of it. But eighth grade to me. those were, I feel like the man, for real. Like in eighth grade, you're walking around with, like, ankle weights on because you think you're changing the game. As you ordered out of an East Bay magazine. Like, eighth grade, you're starting to figure out a lot more of the East Bay, the East Bay Magazine.
Starting point is 03:05:14 Yeah, for sure. And again, walking around with ankle weights, you take them off right, you take them off right before the game and you feel light as hell on your feet. Yeah, then they find out that that's probably not the best way. Right, no doubt, no doubt, no. But at the time, you think, you're changing the game. No, you're right.
Starting point is 03:05:27 I think, but like, when did those, uh, One of those damn balanced bands and the fighting thing. That's high school. Power balance. Yeah, power balance. And I were talking about that not too long ago. I was in college when those came out. Yeah, boomer.
Starting point is 03:05:41 So old. So old. Wouldn't you graduate high school? 11. Yeah, it was 2008. We were walking around that, we were walking around the brassics tag and like, hey, you got to get these on.
Starting point is 03:05:52 It'll help you working out. Yeah. Balance and shit. Such a, I mean, such a con. But he's great. I mean, cool, cool. But, like, also, they asked you why you didn't just stick with baseball. If you're getting paid under the mattress before...
Starting point is 03:06:06 Hang on, I wasn't getting paid under the mattress. No, no, no, no, it's cool. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Come on. I know. I know what it is.
Starting point is 03:06:13 I know what it is. I know what it is. I know what's going on here. They're going to go back and fucking find the coaching staff. Like, hey, we know what was going on here. You were paying your players. But yeah, man, I think that was a good tier talk. I brought up a lot of memories.
Starting point is 03:06:28 Great. A lot of memories. I think we had a, there was a good collective from more of this side. I respect what you're doing. You've watched enough busts with the boys or where you want to create some animosity. I respect it.
Starting point is 03:06:39 I think this was a good conversation all around. I agree. I just don't think that, I mean, eighth grade was just cool. You guys... Okay, hang on, hang on, hang on. Just to try and put myself in your shoes, I see what you mean by saying eighth grade
Starting point is 03:06:53 is my tier one, like my top dog. Yeah. I can understand that. Right. But I have to stand. 10 toes down. You tear what you tear. I get it. Yeah. I'm all in. If I could go back, it'd be, you think so? It's what it is. I can't do it now. It's what it is now. That's what I'm saying, dude. You weren't getting paid in eighth grade. Yeah, but I was getting mentored by the senior
Starting point is 03:07:16 high school high jumper who also had the record. And I was going for his record in eighth grade. And he was, he was mentoring me. Yeah, I tied it. Five foot 10 as an eighth grader, high jump. You a track guy? No, but you tied it. You didn't. Doesn't matter. My name is up there. And if that school smart, my name is probably up there solo. Yeah. Yeah, I mean. You know. Hey, this was a great Bustin with the Boys.
Starting point is 03:07:39 I hope he had as much fun as I did. I did. This was amazing. So, Zach Wilson, that dog? He got that dog in him. You said it. This has been a great episode of Bustin with the Boys, with the boys. Subscribe YouTube channel, Apple Paz, Spotify.
Starting point is 03:07:57 For the love of God, follow it and subscribe to it all. Leave a comment. If you're watching YouTube right now, leave a comment. We had a fucking blast. Good luck this season. Stay healthy. I wish you were on a team that I could root for, but there's like a little animosity I have with the Jets
Starting point is 03:08:10 because I just, I think it's fun kind of going back and forth with their fans a little bit. That's understandable. They had a really good fan base, but you should, like, come on. Strong fan base. Come on, you got a couple boys there now. You'll be on team. No doubt.
Starting point is 03:08:21 No doubt. I will say that. I'm definitely cool for y'all. You can fuck with the fans. Can we make some Jets gear? Will you pioneer for us? 100%. With us?
Starting point is 03:08:28 1,000.000. Let's fucking go. A thousand percent. Hey, you need a, you need to, obviously, I'm sure he's already on your radio, but Gary Vee, look him up up there. Oh, I already know. We already talked. I was saying that, hey, people sleep on that. People sleep on that networking. Oh, I already talked to him. Come on. Hey, I appreciate you, bro.
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