Bussin' With The Boys - Team USA vs Team Canada Rematch + Jameis Winston Talks Adversity & Development Throughout Career

Episode Date: February 18, 2025

Recorded: February 17th 2025 Jameis Winston joins Will Compton and Taylor Lewan for our final Super Bowl Week Interview. Taylor kicks things off with Bert Kreischer’s latest ad read (check out our bet with Bert for context.) Taylor Lewan then dives deep into an emotionally charged monologue about the supremacy of USA hockey! The Boys then discuss the importance of American football being played internationally. Leading to Taylor debating if “Free Bird” should be added to the national anthem? The conversation shifts to Saturday Night Live’s 50th anniversary, the best streaming services to keep, and a shoutout to Richie Incognito. The highlight of the episode is an exclusive interview with Jameis Winston, where he reflects on his journey from college to the NFL, the changes he made after the draft, and balancing football with family. He shares his thoughts on quarterbacks he admires, the mental game of the NFL, and why he chose football over baseball. The boys also get his take on the Browns this year, his rookie struggles, and his rivalry with Marcus Mariota. Jameis opens up about his first-ever speech he made as a youth football player, his relationship with his dad, and how fatherhood has influenced his life. The episode wraps up with the classic Twisted Question of the Week, making for an action-packed, can’t-miss conversation. Big Hugs and tiny lil mother freaking kisses y'all! 0:00 Intro 2:26 Taylor’s On The Super Bowl 3:23 Bert's Bet 5:03 Canada Sucks 21:05 American Football Should Be Played Internationally 28:51 We Are Sick Of The Cold 30:51 Time For Taylor To Fix His Eyes 31:33 The Boys' Break 42:02 Should Free Bird Be Added To The National Anthem? 47:08 SNL 50 59:36 What Streaming Service Should You Keep? 1:15:33 Happy For Richie Incognito 1:23:18 JAMEIS WINSTON INTERVIEW STARTS 1:23:41 Shoutout Ryl Tea 1:24:32 Changing His Behavior Coming Out Of The Draft 1:26:31 Becoming A Professional 1:30:07 Balance With Football And Family 1:32:21 Entering Media After The NFL? 1:33:49 Quarterbacks He Watches 1:36:15 The Mental Game Of The NFL 1:40:14 Choosing Football Over Baseball 1:41:36 The Browns This Year + Deshaun Watson 1:45:38 Trials And Tribulations As A Rookie 1:49:05 Jameis Winston vs Marcus Mariota 1:53:57 His First Speech Ever 1:59:57 His Relationship With His Dad 2:03:44 How Has His Dad Helped With His Own Fatherhood 2:07:38 Twisted QOTWFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Speaking of driving, speaking of drive, we're going to get into, uh, so the boys have had a hell of a season. Football season is behind us. It's lightly in the rearview mirror of our Chevy Silveradoes. It was a fantastic fall. Ended with a little bit of a bump in the road with New Orleans. We went over that two weeks ago or last week. My God.

Wilk comes on the show, has himself a little breakdown of the Super Bowl. I did not watch that. I had my own opinions of it. Here's my short opinion. I'll give it to you real quick. Here's a Sparknote version. Philadelphia Eagles, absolutely hammer-fucked, them boys from Kansas City. Tough to see.

Obviously, everyone saw me absolutely their words not mine, glazing Patrick Mahomes, that little thing. I think he's a stud. He's the baby goat. I think Travis Kelsey hopefully comes back for one year, gets his what's right, because you never want to see a guy go off on the wrong foot when he's already won so many Super Bowls. But the Philadelphia Eagles absolutely dominated their performance. They own the trenches inside and out, not just on the offensive side of the ball, but also on the defensive side of the ball.

So congratulations to them. Mitch saw me putting a nice little big bet for the Kansas City Chiefs. Guess what, Mitch? Lost it. Lost all that money. I put a big bet in too. Big boy bet. Three Pete would love to see it, all those things.

Guess what? Got hammer fucked on that one. One thing you can't get hammered fucked on is Bert Kreischer. My God, 325 pound bench press. That's a PR for not only him, but maybe most of the world. He did 320. That was the bet. He said, that was so nice.

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That's where you can get your tickets. We did say that we were only going to promote his tour. I see here there's another dot on here about his two bears 5K that's in May 4th at Raymond James Stadium in Tampa and you can register at two bears 5k.com early bird prices ends March 28th. They didn't know I was doing two promos for Byr. Sounds like his little team went in there and snuck one under the rug on us a little bit. We need to talk to his team.

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I'm in a great mood today. I don't know if you guys know this, but I'm married a Canadian. Eight years I've been married, and on April 20th, 420, will be nine years married to this woman. A quick spark notes, I guess that's my trend on this podcast.

Taylor and I met early January back in 2016. Five weeks later, we're engaged. April 20th, we decided to get married. So that's how quickly our relationship started. I've known her for eight years. We've been married for eight years. About to be married for nine years. So I've known her for about nine years.

now love this woman she's incredible one of the best people we've ever you guys know taylin you guys love tailon if you don't love tailon keep those words to yourself like she's she's amazing so every year we go up to canada and we know this break was coming for the super bowl and there was talks hey should we go to norway maybe go see some orcas go to iceland my wife's always want to go to iceland what if we do this exotic trip and have a little bit of fun and in my mind i'm like well i don't get to see talon's family very much so i want to go up to canada i want to go up to British Columbia, Canada, see the family. And my wife's like, are you sure?

The weather, it's awful up there. It's going to be the worst week of the year, blah, blah, this, that, and the other. We end up going, and it was phenomenal. It was great to see all of her family members. A couple bad eggs. A couple bad eggs here and there. But what family? You know, you got to have the little sparks here in there.

You got to go back and forth. It was great to see everybody. We have a good, it was like six days of just mass chaos. Let's see this person. Let's see that person. But every person I go to see, every person, there's a whisper. there's always a lull in the conversation. They say to me,

you know America plays Canada on Saturday. Oh, excuse me, what was that? You know, you guys haven't beat us since 1996. I'm just letting you know that America plays Canada because there's always this back and forth. I get a little more prideful when I'm out of my country lines. I step into Canadian land. I try to plant my flag figuratively, not literally just yet.

I sit there and I, you know, I tell you, hey, you guys have a lot of taxes up here, huh? We don't have that many taxes. Oh, you guys can't carry guns? We can carry guns, you know. Yeah, we got a couple problems here and there, but we get to do that. So there's always a nice little fun back and forth. But they start clamoring.

They start chirping a little bit. Connor Gallagher, shout out the gags. He were at Turtle Bay. He's got himself his 30th birthday party on Valentine's Day of all places. And a bunch of family members come. Everyone's boozing, everyone's doing muff divers, having a great time. We're like the only people in the bar, really. And, you know, there's a couple of clamoring.

Hey, Canada. We're playing America. We're playing America. So I'm thinking to myself, I don't know anything about this. Turns out for the All-Star break, and you guys correct me if I'm wrong, because I haven't looked too deeply into this, but this four nations tournament thing is new. Like, this is the first time they've done it, correct?

I'm getting some head shakes in the back, but nothing verbal. Correct. Okay, that's correct. And I heard this morning it was to help promote the Olympics coming up. Right, because in the last Winter Olympics, they said, nay. Because the COVID thing. Yep. Everyone was wearing the mask.

They said, nay to the Winter Olympics. They said, we're going to get away from that thing. So now, so many years later, we're promoting it. And now we got Canada versus America. I start doing a little bit of a deep dive into our America team. Word on the street is. This is the best team anybody's ever seen. They're the team from 1996 when they beat Canada in the last international game they've ever played.

They would probably have something to say about that. But that being said, this America team, apparently from all four corners of the United States of America, these boys are coming together and they're about to do a little damage out here. Austin Matthews, Stottesdale, Arizona, captain of Team USA. Now, let me tell you Canada where you fucked up just a little bit. I'm going to let you know where you fucked up. Yeah, your whole country is within 100 miles of the U.S. border. I get it because up there is a frozen country.

We got a lot of stuff going on there. And you guys live, eat, and breathe hockey. When I went to Canada, ponds everywhere, lakes everywhere, frozen over, you see little kids four or five years old. They're out there already dangling. But now you get a lot of these pros that come into the NHL. What do they do when they retire? They go to Florida.

They go to Arizona. So now you got like Shane Done, Austin. I don't know who his dad is, but like the Kachuk family, a whole bunch of ex-hockey players are now finding themselves in the desert. Playing at the ice then. Just off the 101. These kids are growing and playing. They come up a little bit of a hockey background.

So this is where you fucked up. You let us have your players. They got down here. in America and they thought to themselves, this is nice. I like being a part this. I got my green card. Let me just keep it where it's at right here. And so now, Arizona, destination area,

if you want to be a legit hockey player. Florida, destination area, if you want to be a legit hockey player. The Northeast, we already seen Ryan Whitney. That boy's an absolute stud. Minnesota, the state of Minnesota, is the only place in the entire country you can go play high school hockey and actually get a scholarship for. So Minnesota's got that laid down.

The USA junior team, You know where they're at? Ann Arbor, Michigan. That's where they hang out at. A lot of these cats in the U.S. team were on the University of Michigan. One individual has scored a couple of goals yesterday. He was also on the team of the University of Michigan. So I start to get excited.

I start to get amped up. I see Ryan Whitney on spit and chicklets telling Biz, Paul Biznetti, who is a Canadian, their time has come. It's over. We have caught up to you. Not only have we caught up to you, we are about to supersede you as the greatest hockey country in the world. So that gets me a little juiced up. Shout out Ryan Whitney on that.

Shout out spit and chicklets, all those beautiful boys. I start diving in. I start looking into it. I'm starting to like it. I'm waiting at my gate in Seattle. So I fly from Colona to Seattle. I'm waiting in Seattle. Lady gets over the intercom and she goes,

just so you guys know, the weather's so bad in Nashville, we might have to divert you in a different area. And now let's, we're going to play a little game of follow the bouncing ball here because I'm thinking of myself the minute that happens. If I get diverted, I hope to God it's New Orleans.

And if it's not New Orleans, I'm going to go to New Orleans because I have to figure out whatever I did at that vampire boutique because I got some bad omens going on. Luckily, I landed in Nashville, no problem. But as I'm getting on the plane is when the first part of the game is starting. So the first nine seconds of that game, we saw three fights take place. So throughout the, I have spotty Wi-Fi on the plane. I pay the $8.

I went the extra mile and I paid the $8. I'm sitting in the back of the plane. We're bouncing up and down like a roller coaster of that thing, absolutely twerking like it's the WAP video. in the back of that plane. And I'm watching, I'm watching these boys from the USA grind, their faces off. I'm watching these guys dangle. Take this guy in Connor McDavid, whoever that is, whoever that guy is. I'm talking about his speed, his athleticism, his handles, his ability, all these things.

I'm watching two guys get him in the corner and Eiffel Tower his ass while he's getting ponied over the top falling on his ass. I'm seeing Cachuck boys like the Bass Brothers from Mighty Ducks going in, running Canadian cats into the boards, no problem. Now this McDavid cat, who people are whispering about apparently he's pretty good. He scores a goal quickly. My heart sinks because I know there's a bunch of beautiful people in Canada right now that are kind of hoping America goes down. That's okay.

That's part of the fun rivalry I have with Talon's family. But then the boys go, not one, not two, but three unanswered? Three goals unanswered. The boys are playing such good defense. They're sitting back in the third period. Toying with them, Canadian cats. Toying with them. Go ahead.

Go ahead and use your speed, kid. Go ahead. Go ahead and with those gray area turnovers. Because guess what? Between the two blue lines? We're getting that puck. You guys want to come over on this side of the ice? You're going to catch yourself a couple of fists.

You're going to catch yourself a couple of hip checks in the corner. Hey, enjoy this little mitten into your jaw a little bit. How's that taste, buddy? So three periods of dominance. one small little laps from this McDavid character, but three periods of dominance. And then I find out even more, dude. I don't get to see the national anthem take place.

I don't get to see the governor or the prime minister of Canada sitting in his seat, booing as well with the rest of the Canadian folks in Montreal, away game, by the way, away game. You got a military cat sitting there with a microphone in his hand. and he's singing the United States of America's national anthem and you have the audacity.

Nay. The disrespect to go and boo your brother, your neighbor? Someone who's going to sit there and say, I got your bag, no matter,

don't worry about having your own military. We're going to protect you no problem. And you want to boo the boys? Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. Now, personally, as a fan of sports, I love it. it does juice me up a little bit.

It gets me fired up to see like this rivalry, this banter back and forth, but a lot of people are like, this guy, Trump, this big scary orange man. Listen, the National Anthem is not about the president of the United States. It's not even about the people, the citizens of the United States. No, it's much bigger than that. It's the men and women who have fought and died for this country to make sure that this freedom, although you might think it's free, it costs lives. So we get after it every single day.

and we put our hand over our hearts every single time. The National Anthemps comes up. We take our caps off. We keep our feet at 10 and 2. And we let them know, hey, we got you, brother. We might not be on the battlefield with you, but we're thinking about you every step of the way. So, Canada, I love you.

I'm a huge fan of the West Coast part. I don't know the other parts. But you messed with the bully. Get the horns a little bit, right? Is that what happens? Mitch, do you disagree? I completely agree. Completely agree.

If I were you and you were still with him, when the national anthem came on and they started boo and I would have to swing at her I don't want to swing on my wife I love my wife I've already said she's the greatest human being I have truly ever met but that's straight disrespect straight disrespect but you know what's beautiful three goals unanswered that's beautiful free bird playing every time a goal is scored that's beautiful the kachuk brothers putting belt the ass on those boys at the start of the game that is beautiful Crosby, an incredible individual, he has been, he's one of the goats of hockey, right? I'm not fully versed in the world of hockey. However, I do know enough to know that Cindy Crosby is

incredible. 26 games he's played international games. You know what his record was? 25 and 0. He has a point differential of like plus 85. Now, my understanding of the plus minus thing is, if you're on the ice and the other team scores, that's minus one for you. If you're on the ice and your team scores, that's plus one for you. So on and so forth, you find out your numbers and more games you play. He is in a plus differential. That is absolutely insane. And that first score that happened, bad pass by Cindy Crosby.

Gray area turnover. Looks like the goat got got. You know what I'm saying? That's a lot to say about that. I do love Canada. I do. What we got? We got an amber alert.

Here I am trying to pump up American. We're getting an amber alert. I was seeing on the That is crazy To lighten the mood a little bit From that little alert But I did see on Twitter Everyone saying

Thanks to Sidney Crosby All the Canadian kids grew up Wanting to be Sid Yeah They have zero goalies And it shows Mm Beautiful

Yeah dude I was on the phone With my wife before Talking about I was like Hey just so you know Like when I get on this podcast Kenna's gonna catch hands a little bit

And she's like Be nice, don't go too far Nope Nope Got to got to our show. Think again. Think again.

This is what happens. And if you don't like what I'm saying, sweetheart, beat us. Beat us, sweetie. Because I love, dude, I love it. I love it because I'm seeing, I love seeing the passion from Canadian fans as well. In my, in my inbox, I feel like, I feel like I just played Ohio State again. My team just played Ohio State again where Ohio State fans are in there, well, you're a piece of shit. Remember what you said about this?

Remember your freshman year of college? All these different things. They're going crazy on me. And I love it because it's like, hey, you win, you get to talk shit or you don't win. Guess what? Keep your mouth shut. Let the big boys talk. Let the big boys whisper a little bit. We will know by the end of today if we get a rematch. Which would be awesome. So yeah, we were talking about this before the show. There is a couple of scenarios. Canada obviously has to win. But we're already in the championship and we have to play Sweden. Correct. We have to play Sweden. And for Canada to get in, we have to beat Sweden. Or tie them. Or tie them. Now, if I'm America, I would love to see Canada again. I would love to go back, play in Boston, home turf, and get after them boys again. That would be all time. As soon as they say, okay, boo.

Dude, so I kind of hope they, like, so there's two different thoughts that go in my head when it comes to like booing the national anthem. One, part of me is like, yes. Boo, oh, Canada. or start singing the American national anthem while O Canada is being sang. And I think that's an incredible chirp. I think that's good, good, clean fun.

I think it's hilarious. I just said it's good, clean fun, even though if you do it to America, it's like, oh, disrespectful? It is. Yeah, but it is.

Because why? Because I was born here. So that's what I got to have pride of my country a little bit, right? But it would be classy. It would be straight class. To do nothing. To do nothing.

Yeah, but we ain't doing it. might shock them. That might, Canada might walk in there. They're like, boys are going to boo us. We got to fight right after. You know how it is. We don't, we're a boy. We're going to get after their asses, all right? Yeah, Putin and beating asses we're going to do. And then they go out there national anthem. They don't boo at all. They're thrown off. Boys are discombobulated now. I mean, think about it, G, right? I mean, I'm just thinking of all the ammunition that they just put on us. I know. It's beautiful, dude. They got a win to get to Boston. and there's no way they're walking in there and shit's not going down.

I love this passionate rivalry that's happening between America and Canada. I think it's awesome. I think it's fun. I think if they get the best of us, I'm going to have a flood of texts from the Gallagher's and the Whitfield just telling me,

you guys are bombs, you're this or that, and I'll embrace it. I'll embrace that with open arms. But as of right now, as of today, February, whatever it is, America is the best country at hockey in the entire world and you can't even argue it. It's not even worth arguing.

But what about the last 26 years, Taylor? Well, you're only as good as your last game. Right? Also, no better city to send the Canadians to you than Boston. Dude, I was trying to explain that to my wife. I was like, Boston is such a unique place because it's like, it's the Northeast, but there's like so many blue-collar patriotic motherfuckers

out there that just goes. go so hard for their country. And you know all their blood is boiling. They're happy about the wind that America got over Canada, but more than anything, they're pissed off about the booing that took place. The booing's wild. That's crazy.

And it's going to happen in Boston. You have no one to blame but yourself, Canada. You've watched the clip. Oh, I've watched the clip. It was the whole arena. It wasn't just a couple people booed. Right, right. It was the whole arena.

And I've seen a bunch of man on the street stuff too, where people are like, How do you feel like they're in Montreal or wherever they're at? And they're like, how do you feel about America hockey? They're like, oh, hey, fuck, fuck American hockey. They're going crazy on us. They're losing their minds on us. 3-1.

3-1. Jack, did you watch the game? Dominance. Absolutely beautiful. And I don't know, like, go ahead. That's it. All right. That's all he's got.

Yeah, Jack loves it. I watched the game. Jack loved it. He watched the game. It was absolutely beautiful. I think what we need to do is, Um, do you know how like the Quakers when they first got to America, they like went on a mission to like spread religion throughout America and like Mormons go on their, um, they go on missions

right at 18 and they go to different places to like make people, hey, you should believe in Mormonism. America should do missions to other countries to teach football. That's what we should do. So we can develop, even more than we do now. if we do it at all. We need to develop other countries and football more so that somebody can get good enough to play us so we can just beat them.

I want this international fight on the gridiron. Yes. I want 60 minutes of international American League football going fucking hard. I love it. And Canada, since we're on the subject of Canada, they need to change their rules to American League rules so they can just get better at that.

Their field's longer, it's wider. They got it's like a pass, past punt lane. There's only three downs. It's kind of crazy. They need to just go to American rules and get good enough. So we can send our boys over, over the lines and put belt to ass real quick. Give John Gruden three years in another country. Three years.

Yeah. Absolutely. And it would be a good football team. I can guarantee that. That'd be a good hard-nosed ball club, no doubt about it. All people that play in Canada are American players that couldn't make it in the NFL. That is true. That is true. And being in BC, shout out the Okanagan's son. They have themselves a nice little football team. They actually play American rules as well. But I just want, I want some more development. I don't know what we're putting in our food. I don't know if Bobby Kennedy is going to stop that stuff from getting in our food or what the deal is. But we need to put whatever's in our food up in other countries. So these guys can get bigger, stronger, faster as well. And we can go play on the gridiron for 60 minutes. Also, shout out, no free shout out. Japan has a sneaky good, uh,

football system that's been grown in their country for a while. Love that. Line it up. I don't know how good they are. I mean, there's no Japanese. I think we got a kicker on the Falcons coup, but also don't want to be disband. I don't know if he's Japanese or not.

I don't know what he is. Maybe not NFL quality, but they have a league with a Super Bowl. They have multiple national teams of like multiple age groups. There is a passion for it, which we want to celebrate. That's our mission to spread that. Yep. That's our mission to celebrate and expand the football mind.

So yeah, Japan, line it up. It would be kind of nice if they did adapt football because maybe they could play when it's our off season. Yeah. So we have football year-round. Year-round. That would be great to see. Now, if we were to do international games,

will we let our pro football players play or we do like college? College players, college All-Star? I'll go play. Mitch, you would be probably a first- round draft pick for this. I would. You volunteer as tribute. I volunteer as tribute for to put the stars and stripes on me and let me show international

people how American football is how a white man runs a football. As you're trying to say. As you're trying to say. Yes, but without saying that. Yeah, I'm with that. All right. Mitch is in. We need 52 other guys.

We got one. We need 52 other hard-nosed motherfuckers to get out there. I can recruit. You can recruit? I can recruit. I know some. I know some buddies. I got Davey up in Philly.

I know he'll play. I got some... Davey up in Philly. He's in. He eats, he eats and breeze football. I guarantee you he would suit it up for him. Yeah? Is he good, though?

Oh, yeah. He was a captain with me at Susquehanna football. A captain? Sure, I mean. That's what we should do. Until, no disrespect, but what we're about to say, until other countries can line it up with the big boys, we should be doing D2D3 football boys against them and just punish them.

D3 football could wipe out Internet. teams without a doubt. I have no a D3 also not even watching film no my my Susquehanna football team could go overseas and play this Japan national team put up we'll probably 28 them in the first we should do US versus the world then but maybe the world gets their best football players I think we're versus our football players I think we are forgetting that we we got dog walked in that U-20 tournament the World Cup the U-20

the U-20 Football World Cup we didn't even medal we got Bishop Sycamore going to play and represent the U.S. Can I actually question? Shirm? Yeah, yeah, go ahead. What are you doing, bringing that up on the show? Well, I'm saying that we need to be better in international play. We can't just send whoever, because like Mitch said, it was a bunch of people whose daddies were paying for them to be on the team.

So you're saying Davey from Philly should not be in it. No, no, no. What I'm saying, what I was saying, I had a buddy who played on the USA team or he was on Susquehanna. you don't get picked to be on that team. You pay to be on that team. So you're getting these kids. It's all making sense now. Like Sherm said,

Daddy's money, they're paying you or paying for you to be on that team to go play internationally. It's not like they're getting picked because they're good. Did you imagine? Justin Jefferson,

Jamar Chase, playing on that team? Dogs. Over. See ya. It's done. I do love, there's all this international stuff.

I fucking love it, dude. I wish football was in a play. where it could do that. It seems like hockey has really figured out how to do All-Star Weeks. Because the NBA All-Star, I don't follow NBA as much as I should. I'm probably going to start doing that this off-season trying to figure it out.

How is, what's a double-jubble? What's a travel? What are all those things? I'm going to learn that. And we're going to dive in because I like to start betting on some football, on some basketball. But like, I watch the Skills Challenge. And I don't remember the two guys that did it,

but you're supposed to shoot like nine, three-pointers, and it's all for time. And instead of shooting it, they just kind of like threw the ball out, three times, which I get strategically you're trying to do your best you possibly can to win it in a time frame. But let's have a little more entertainment.

Oh, who's this spicy white boy? Mac Mac Mac MacBanc. MacBuclung? Is that his name? Mac Mac Maclung. Mac Maclung. Guy's got the Southern fuck boy haircut and he jumps over a car

and dunks. What's crazy is he's in the G League. He doesn't even really play. Oh, they just called his ass up for this. Hey, we need some bunnies out here. Because he won last year. Is this the best year for white athletes of all time right now? I mean,

McClung having himself a day at the dunk competition. We got the exciting whites in the Super Bowl. One gets himself a pick six, Cooper DeGine. USA hockey? USA hockey, all whites. I mean, we might be on a generational run, boys. It's not making racial. But it's a big deal.

Biggest trade in NBA history? Luca? White guy. White guy? NBA history, biggest trade. White guy. But, but, but a white guy.

Gary mumbles under his breath. Well, he didn't have the microphone. He says, European. I get it. I get it. But also, white guy. That's a nice little deal, right? I'm not saying we're going to be on top forever,

but it's nice to be on the peak of something for a little bit. We're having a moment. We're having a moment. Let us have a moment. We're going to have a moment. trust me we're not going to be here for long we will not be here for long but it's nice to be here right now so yeah dude the break was nice it was nice to be up in canada it was nice to be hanging out my wife's family they're awesome they're so much fun to be around i'll tell you what though i don't

i've hit my threshold for the cold weather i am i'm over it i'm done with it i want to move on from it it was my idea to go up in canada but in those six days i was up there i was like i'm ready for it to be over and I check my my little weather app and Nashville is about to have we're about to have snow on Wednesday like let's move on they're talking about climate change let's claim let's change the climate how do we get rid of snow all together is that bad for the world is that bad that's bad for the world yes it's bad for the world fuck we wouldn't have rivers or no what about rain we'll just just supplement the snow for the rain we're good that means a lot of rain all right you would have rain you would have rain over just cold?

I'd rather have a t-shirt on and be wet than have four coats on and be cold. That's what I would rather have. But yeah, if there's a way to not like just nuke the earth and have no snow, I'd sign up for that. You might be in the minority for that. That's okay.

I can be in the minority for this. I can be in the minority. I'm okay with being... That's a desert rat. Standing alone. Yeah, listen, I grew up in Arizona. I know what it's like to have sun every single day. It's fantastic.

And the good thing about Arizona is they must have done something with the weather because they just pick like a month out of the year where it rains every single day and then we move on see you later we got rivers man-made we got lakes man-made but we're still here you know anyway boys how was your break what'd y'all do oh let's do an ad oh let's do an ad show you doves men talking about doves men uh are you afraid of taking off your shoes when entering your friend's house getting nervous your team is down at half time tack a whole body odor with Dove Men's Plus Care Whole Body Deo. This whole body deal defends against all your odor zones from pits to privates to feet.

And it's long lasting for 72 hour odor protection. Find Men Whole Body Deo at Walmart today. Beautiful, wonderful, graceful. I'm getting better at these ad rates. It is, but it's all about having this sheet two inches from my face, which Mitch told me. It's not a good look visually for the viewer. You said after the Super Bowl, when's your honor? doctor appointment. Yep. And I thought about this morning. I had a parent teacher conference today. I was

driving up there solo because my family's still in Canada. Very intimidating experience, by the way. Being like just the dad at the parent teacher conference, it's way shorter than when my wife comes with me. How's everything going? Good. All right. See you guys later. Well, let's move it on. But yeah, I was thinking about that. I think this week I need to text somebody. This week, my goal is to text somebody. The following week, act on that text. The following week from that, get an appointment set up. So I have a three weeks span here when it comes to my eyes because they need to be fixed. Absolutely. But anyway, boys, Sherman, we'll start with you.

What will be doing the break, dude? Okay, so mine might be the most boring. So we'll just get knocked out quick. Knock it out. Didn't travel anywhere. But we were getting the nursery ready for the baby girl that's on the way. So we're moving everything from the downstairs guest bedroom. We have kind of like a little attic slash loft bedroom upstairs.

So we were moving all the furniture upstairs. Getting it cleared out for the nursery. I surprised built the crib while Jill was out of the house. So she came home to that. Put a little Valentine's Day balloon in the crib. Very nice. Rashed it. Did it pay off?

Nice. It paid off. It paid off. Maybe not in that way, but, you know, happy wife, happy life. As the old phrase goes, absolutely. So that was really it, if that tells you how boring my week was. I love it, dude. Getting set up for a baby.

It's exciting. It was fun. You're excited about the future. I'm letting you know your hours. I'm about it changed quite a bit. I'm happy for you though. Thank you. Mitchie, what we do, baby?

What was our little break like? I went down to Chattanooga. Oh, the Nuga. Yeah, my girlfriend is on her rotation down there for PA school. Chattanooga rips. It's a cool little, it's like, it's obviously a city, but it's like a big town. And it's a vibe. There's a bunch of stuff to do.

Like, it's super walkable. Very granola. A bunch of granola, like your mountain men up there with long beards, like, kind of straggly. But it was cool. That was my first time in the Nuga. And I enjoyed it. I definitely, definitely will be going back. It's a vibe.

What's the place we went to in the Nuga where it was that sandwich spot? What's it called? Yellow Delly. Did you go there? I did not. I went to this place called Needloves. One of my buddies I live with, he goes there a lot for work. He has all the recommendation.

Needloves, slaps. Did not go to Yellow Deli. Apparently, I've heard, I think G was saying that it's like a famous spot. Yeah, famous. Yeah, famous. Famous. Don't drink the Kool-A, but it's famous. We went to this place called Wakein Bakery.

What's that like? Kind of exactly what it sounds like. Did you get banged up? No, I didn't, but you get a free pre-roll with your coffee. No shit. Yeah. And you can get your coffee infused. There's one called like the double-fuck it.

You can get 100 milligrams of shit in it. didn't do it. Didn't do it. Yeah, yeah. That sounds like death to me. But Chicago-based, it was pretty cool. The Wake and Bakery. Yeah, that is the exact place that we went to.

That's awesome. You need 100 milligrams in your coffee? Yeah. That's like a vodka red bull on steroids. That is just going to kill you. It's called the double fuck it for a reason. But the person that worked there, like you're stereotypical, like beanie, like just kind of look like a guy with dreads.

It was a white girl. But dreads. Yeah. And she was super nice. We chopped it up for her for a little bit. But yeah, Chattanooga rips. She's probably rocking a poncho hoodie. Yeah.

Had design tattoos on our hands. Yep. Nothing of substance. Yep. Yeah. Hell yeah, dude. I mess with that. It was sick.

I mess with that, dude. Fuck yeah. Great trip. Good trip. A little trip to the Nugi. Yep. I like it. I like it.

I like it. Gee, baby, what we do? What we do? What we do? How was our break? Break was good. I was here until Wednesday. My birthday was last.

Tuesday. Happy birthday. So happy birthday gee. Chilled here. Wednesday went out to L.A. It rained the first two days. That kind of sucked. But got to see some friends and then the sun came out on Friday, which was nice. Spent all day outside. Yeah, it was good. It was a little reset. It's always nice to go out to the West Coast and, you know, catch a vibe and then come home back to reality. Dude, the West is still never one in my heart. I love the West. so much. It's beautiful. It's more open. More things to do. Rip around. It's fun. It's a good time. We were in

like Silver Lake Echo Park area, so kind of near Dodger Stadium and then west of like Hollywood, West Hollywood and it was a fun little neighborhood. Got some boys buying your free drinks out there, huh? No, we were not in West Hollywood. Got you. Yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure, for sure, for sure, for sure, for sure, for sure. Yeah, it was kind of like an East Nashville vibe.

So it was good. I feel like L.A. is mostly East Nashville vibes. I don't, I mean, maybe. I feel like it's a lot of like, what can you do for me vibe. Yeah, I can get, I can get on board with that. I haven't been out to L.A. like so much. I've been out to, like, more like the southern part of you.

It felt different. I mean, obviously we went a couple years ago, but like pre-COVID, the vibe was just kind of like weird. And now post-like COVID, it feels very chill. Yeah. It was nice. And no one does anything until 11.

AM. That's wild. You get up, especially being used to our time. You get up early. You can go for a walk, get coffee. Do whatever you want before anyone's even like on the roads. I mess with that. Yeah, it was nice though.

I love it. I love it. Great little trip. Jackie Boy. I was also on the West Coast. Not West Coast, but the Western Mountain Ranges, the Rocky Mountains. It was out in Breckenridge, doing a little snowboarding. Get granoli.

Yeah. It was, weather was pretty solid for the mountains. Last day was really cold Got down on a lot I think you woke up And it was like negative six And then by like noon It was like zero

So it had a big cold front Move in on our last day But we got a little bit of snow One of the days Conditions were good Enjoy being on Breck Dude I'll tell you what though Like oh shit

Okay I'm fine No I'm 30 now And dude three days of snowboarding It's different than it did When I was like 21 Dude expand on that a little bit Because I agree 100% with you

But I want to know How your body feels It's just I thought that it was going to take at least another decade for me to be like, oh, I still have it. And I'm not saying I've lost it, but like me and my buddy Tyler who are out there, we're out there with a bunch of his work friends. Me and him have been snowboarding for like a decade plus now. So we know we can ride any commercial lift in in the world, I believe.

Oh, we can we can snowboard. I don't necessarily know what that means. I've never been snowboarding. We can snowboard. But dude, after three days, my back and my legs, it was just like I was hurting. just tired. And plus, I came from New Orleans to Nashville, it was in Nashville for a day and then immediately out in the mountain. So just a lot of traveling around plus just it's kind of hard on your body,

but still had fun. And then on Thursday night flew from Denver to Charleston for our buddy's bachelor party. So two straight weeks on the road. It was a lot. But by the time the last few days were there, I was finally hitting like a relaxing point where I was just hanging with my buddies, so I've known forever. So it was great.

Love having the time off. I get, like, guilty on vacations. I don't know about you all, but like, it takes me a lot for me to be fully enjoying my vacations. I don't know what it is, but now we're back in Nashville, and I feel guilty I didn't enjoy my vacation as much. Isn't that weird? No, just kidding. But, yeah, it was great. It was fun to get away, but it's good to see the boys again.

And, yeah, back in Nashville, it's going to snow again. So hopefully, I'm with you, though. I'm ready for the warm weather to Got to get the warm weather back 100% I'm ready for it. Shirm, your hand is raised. Yes, sir. I had a question for Jack.

What's up? Jack, how is Casa Benita? That's one of my favorite places. Holy shit, you went to Casa Bonita? I didn't go in. So on our way back on Thursday, me and my buddy had a late flight. All the guys that were in Breckridge with us,

they had an early flight. So we were basically hanging out in Denver for the day. One of my buddy's younger brothers, Jack Hamlin, shout him out. He works for Matt and Trey, the guys who started South Park. And so he has worked on the development and all the stuff that's gone on with Casa Bonita. Holy shit.

So I messed up and didn't hit him up earlier in the week. And I didn't realize, I mean, it's like a three-month reservation list to get into Casa Bonita. Is it really? Yeah, it's, you have to really fight to get in there. So we didn't actually get to eat in there. But we had time and I was like, I have to see it in person. And what's hilarious is Casa Bonita is located on like North Colfax in Denver. And it's like a very sketchy area.

and Casa Bonita is just in the middle of a strip mall and she's just massive pink building but it was cool to see it's so much better yeah it was cool just to see it but whenever I go to Denver next it'll definitely be on my to do list because it's the happiest place on earth what makes me sick to my stomach is a couple years ago when we went to Denver we were supposed to go to Boulder

to interview Dion Sanders and that ended up falling through so we were just in Denver we could have done nothing I think at that time we were there Cospinita was closed down they had like a bit they they opened right before COVID and then they had to close down and then it took a lot for them to reopen and almost like killed the whole business of it. But they did. So it's thriving now. I mean, it's crazy. It looks like

TSA out front like going through. There's like 10 metal detectors and like, you know, a bunch of security guards and people just kind of like lingering around. You don't know if they're waiting to eat or, you know, just looking for money. Or just in a sketchy spot trying to figure out who's who in the zoo. It's not the best area. But dude, it's a beautiful establishment. You walk up and it's it looks like a church just pink and it's huge and never seen a pink church before but i fuck with that idea yeah it and tray had to save it correct yeah okay because i i went maybe six or seven years ago like right before they started shutting down they were still doing the divers and stuff so i got to experience that yeah it was definitely want to go back and check it out it's it looks like an

experience but yeah if you love south park you know what we're talking about if not casa bonita is a Mexican restaurant based through South Park. It's Carbans' favorite place. And then they made it to a real-life thing. So I love something that they pull from fantasy land and make something that's a physical brick-and-mortar established. See, I did not know that. I thought Casabonina was already something.

It was, but not to the extent that was in South Park. Like when I went there. With like the divers. It was very run down. It was like it needed a facelift bad. They still had the divers, but it wasn't to. the extent that they like show in South Park. Got you.

Where like Cartman was like in this dream world. But apparently that's what it is now. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, that's, then you learn something new every day. Beautiful. I'm glad you guys all had a great trip. That's outstanding.

I'm going to look at my notes here real quick. Next on the docket. Should we add the guitar solo to Freebird to the national anthem? I think that's a, uh, I feel like it's a clear yes. I feel like they're, I mean, if you just get to you and the home of the Rimpa, bough, do, do, do, right. That starts just going And then the end with Brave

I feel like we can get petition sign for that A 12 minute national anthem I even like the home of the brave And then everybody starts going Yeah And under the You just start hearing the Yeah I like that dude

Yeah I like the idea of it's starting with the with a... Bam, boom, bam. Down, down, down. And then they start singing. And then it's just very faintly under there. So you want like the Leonard Skinnerd's song.

Yeah, yeah. Like no disrespect to like the national anthem. Yeah, yeah. I don't hate that at all. Like, you know how you normally have like the... Yeah. Like, no disrespect, bro. But...

I think that... First off, I love this. We're officially in a brainstorm as a podcast. I think you do start to... and then it just slowly fades into the start of Leonard Skinner. And the spotlight just goes on that guy. Yes. Moves from the drum guy over.

And they just sing the song the way whoever sing the individual is singing wants to do it, their depiction of it. But in the same kind of rhythm of that. And I love the guitar solo being at the end because think of how rock hard you would get. If you are standing on the sideline of a football, I'm sorry, you're watching. hand over heart hat off listening to a guitar solo and then a b 52 bomber comes over the top in the heat the peak even of that guitar solo tell me you're not nutting right there dude tell me you want to end people not being patriotic go ahead and do that maybe freebird plays until kick the kick or the puck draw like oh yeah i love it 12 minutes 12 minutes you just keep that going the net and then the coin flips happening during the guitar solo and then as soon as the puck

drops it's over buddy we might have just done it on bustling with the boys it made coin tosses way more fun way more fun could you imagine imagine being a captain walking out to the center field trying not to just hit like one of those just a little bit of hip shoulder movement while that guitar soul is gone after a b 52 bomber just flew by trying to listen to the referee talk about heads or tails flip that thing in the air, buddy. That's what you want. Did you say heads?

Yeah. He said heads. Crowd fucking cheers when you win it. And just some guy, long hair, long beard, in the corner shredding. Every once in a while

the big screen just goes to him. Comes back. Goes back to him. I love it. Anybody here say nay to that? Does anybody say nay? Jack? I just keep pointing it to Jack to it.

We need to like edit it and then put it out. say nay? Do you say nay? Nay to your name. Hold on. Here we go. Here we go. Even have a nay. Don't, yeah, I'm not even considering. What's not named here is what I'm here? What if we just

only use Chris Stapleton's version? Okay. With Freebird underneath. Holy shit. Okay, here's what I do. It brought tears. Tears. Think if you had Freebird.

Buddy, you're on to something special. You're crying and rocked hard. Right. Right, but think about nothing better than being rock hard will tears streaming down your face. But I also will love to hear other people's interpretations

of how they believe the national anthem should be said, wow, Freebird is playing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, maybe we start off, maybe the first five years in the new national anthem is Chris Stapleton. I'm saying, like, you search it on YouTube, like the OG, the one is Chris Stapleton's,

but you still have... Yeah, I like that. People. Okay, I'm with everything you're saying, I'm with. I'm officially on board that. Can we, I don't know how AI really works, but can we get that dialed in?

Chris Stapleton singing the National Anthem to Freebird. While we're talking about this, can we like get that hat off at Will's mic? What the fuck is that? Sherm. Will put that thing. You're lying. I saw you wearing that hat looking at yourself before the show started. What we doing? That hat?

That hat. During this conversation? During this conversation? I'd say throw it out. I'd say throw it out. It's got to go. Yep. See ya. This is America. Hepatitis. See you later. It's got to get out of here. We'll wore that. We'll actually.

Will war that. Yep. Communists. He did wear that. But who put it on his mic? Who put it on his mic, Shirm? I have no clue. Sherm, don't do that.

With a daughter on the way, you're going to lie about this country? Don't do that. On Scarlett, I put it on the mic. Scarlot's a beautiful name, by the way. I like Scarlett. Scarlett letter. Speaking of Scarlet, did you all watch SNL 50? Dude, I didn't.

But I'm going to watch it. You should. Tonight. There's some good moments. I'm solo at the house. I have nothing to do. Insane FOMO. Everyone was there.

God. Yeah, it just makes you be like, damn. I really should have tried harder to be a cast member when I was like 14. Yeah. Should have gone to second city in Chicago and hope you get to discover. Yeah, with the groundlings or whatever. It was crazy. I know.

I apparently Taylor & watched it last night because she called me this morning. She's like, I know what your next goal should be. I was like, oh, what is it, sweetie? She's like, you should try to be on SNL. Perfect. Sweetheart, do you understand, like, how many talented people are told no? They had Ryan Reynolds there. Ryan Reynolds did there to do a small little thing.

Hilarious. Lil Wayne was there. Fucking, what's the guy? What's his, uh, the guy from the departed? Well, which one? No. Yeah.

No. De Niro. Jack Nicholson. Yeah. Jack Nicholson was there, dude. Introduced Adam Sandler. Introduced Adam Sandler. Adam Driver was there.

Also, Adam Sandler, my close friend, my close and personal friend, we spend time at Red Rocks together. Adam Driver, I don't, can you pull up Adam Driver? Oh, come on. The Sith Lord. Kylo Ren from the New Star Wars.

Come on, dude, you know I don't watch. Oh, him. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Adam Driver, dude. Eddie Murphy was there. Eddie Murphy was crazy. I know, I got to rewatch it.

I was such a big SNL fan growing up. And for me not to watch that. It's pretty disrespectful. Steve Martin was there? Yeah, he opened. Cheaper by the dozen? Martin Shee? How long was this was this deal?

It was long. It was like two hours at least. No way. It was long. It was on cable with like commercials and stuff. It's probably like, if you watch it, now wherever on NBC it'll probably like an hour and a half got you but yeah there's a lot of skits a lot of fun stuff maril street made her first ever s andl ever s andl performance which it was so

nuts yeah that's awesome and did i see post malone doing a nirvana cover that was on friday night that was on friday night yeah pre-party or something but the people loved it it's hard to do anything nirvana especially kirkobane like that's it helps and you have dave girl on drums it helps and everyone else in the band yeah but that is awesome it's impressive that he got the public support. I saw some comments that were hating on that live performance. And I did just want to say Post Malone, if you hear this, like, that was an awesome performance. And that deserved no, uh, hate on the internet. He did a, uh, he's always going to be homers for the Kurt Cobain thing. I completely understand why people would be like, this is not it. He and, uh, Travis Barker did like a

Nirvana, like live stream during COVID to raise money. And you can go watch that on YouTube. And it is insane. good it is. And there's like in the house. Anything Travis Barker touches, dude. It's so good. Post-Valone came out smoking a SIG and then just right before, yes, right before the solo just puts it on the fret and just, no shit.

Oh yeah, it murdered it. He had a great performance. God, I wish I was that cool. Wouldn't it be awesome just to be that cool? Fuck. And no offense, like, we just named all of those people, but Taylor wants you to be on there. Right. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm agreeing with you. I'm agreeing with you. Like, don't, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no shade, take I think what he's saying is Tayloring thinks you're that cool. Shout out my wife, dude. She's my number one supporter. Number one hater also, but number one supporter, no doubt about it. And she's like, but Taylor, you love improv. Yeah, sweetheart. I do.

I love doing improv. I will say, you got to read the cards. So you might have to get your eyes done. Yeah, I have to get my eyes done for sure. Basically, why I'm getting my eyes done is so I can be on SNL. Now the whole world knows. Being on SNL would be all time. Improv's fun.

I mean, to this day, my favorite podcast we've ever done, is the Bad Friends podcast. Being able to do that type of improv is just so much fun. Step one in that process of getting on to SNL, you should do an improv class. I think you'd have a lot of fun. I think we should all do an improv class. That would be so much fun. That would be, I would love to do it. Have you ever done an improv class? I took drama two years in high school. So I see you, you probably like that then. You do the math. I got a, I was district champ in eighth grade for improv. Hold on. What is this tournament? How does this tournament work?

Bro. Okay, first off, can I say something real quick? Please. And this is a safe space. I think you're lying. I think you're lying. And you just put the Chinese hat on the microphone over here and you lied about that. On Scarlett.

On Scarlet. First place, UIL, district, whatever we were for Alito, improv champion. How does it work? Okay, so how the format works is you have a ton of different drama-based stuff. So you have like one act plays, you have monologue readings, you have like singing musical aspects. Like there's all these different categories. Really talented stuff. Talented stuff.

I signed up for, in this case, it would be you and I, Taylor, are two guys doing any improv scene that we draw out of the hat. And we're going up against like 30 other two-man teams. Wow, 60 other people. It was a big competition. It takes all day. There's like six rounds to it. And you don't, all you know is that you make it to the finals. You don't know if you win until the very end.

And, I mean, a huge moment, huge moment. I kept that UIL medal. What was your, what was your championship performance? Gee, I love it you're pressing. Championship scene was that I was a evil scientist and that I had a, or well, it wasn't that I was evil scientist. It was just an evil scientist and an Igor type character are trying to build. this monster go.

And so my partner and I, I need to remember his name. Oh my gosh. I need to remember his name. You're right. You should just made up a name, dude. My next question was going to be, my next question was going to be,

are you boys with this guy? Shout out. Shout out, no free shout out to Taylor Locke, who was my partner and best friend growing up. Hold on. There's no way you don't remember his name and I'm right here. I got partnered with them.

Right before the tournament, because Taylor and I were partners. We were best friends. And our drama teacher was like, my best friend, I can't remember my best friend's name. Well, I can remember Taylor Locke. Drama teacher says,

y'all are both trying to be alphas in scenes. And you need one driver and then you need somebody that's like the yes man to the driver to help the scene push. She said, y'all are both trying to drive. So she split us up. She gave Taylor a new partner. I got a new partner.

I think his name was Aaron. I don't want to like jump on that. But I want to say his name was Aaron. It was like right before this tournament, I got first. Taylor brought home the silver with Preston Bartley. That was his partner. Honestly,

alpha move, you're not knowing your partner's name. Alpha move. And also nice flex by you saying your teacher said you're both trying to be alphas. We were. We were both trying to come up with stuff for the scene. And it would,

we'd buy hats. It would bottle neck. It would bottle neck. I'll tell a truthful story. When I, so when I was in high school, when I was in high school, I had, I did, I had an improv like an acting class that I did. And it was so much fun. My freshman year, we did it. Me and Nick Bennett were in this class together. Nick, I remember his name because he was my best friend. Still is to this day. And this, during, during the same year, we had an English teacher who had to leave. She might have got sick or she just moved or something like that. But we had Ms. Clarkson come in as a substitute teacher. She was like, we were unruly children. And she was, She is like kind of like not knowing what to do. So Nick Bennett and I took it upon ourselves to teach the class improv. And instead of doing English, we just decided to improv, which plays out because now I still

can't read. I don't know punctuation very well. But the whole time I was there through my junior year being at the same school, Catch the Shadows High School, we would go and every year pick one day and we'd skip the entire day to go to Ms. Clarkson's class and teach the freshman improv. And I loved it. It was so much fun. Back then, it was just like poop and pee jokes that she would get upset about.

But that was really it. Love improv. It really was such a fun class. It is, dude. And if you can get over the thought of like, I hope I don't say something dumb here. Like, if you can get over like the ego of being like, ah, man, I'm going to try something and hopefully it hits. It's so much fun.

Just to throw caution to the wind and kind of rip those things apart. We had, like, for my grade, we had like eight guys that wanted to be in drama too. and the teacher was like, this is, I cannot handle eight of you in one class. Right. So they made two classes. One was in the morning and one was in the afternoon. So they split us up four and four.

And we were definitely the guys in the class that were like immediately making it inappropriate. Right. But had enough confidence to where she was just like, I mean, they're not like screwing up, but they're just taking it. Way too far. Yeah.

So, I mean, making everyone uncomfortable in a skin. it like just I don't know it was it was fun I love it so if you don't think about it's like doesn't matter what the other person says like you have to say yes and go with it right that's awesome what we need to do is we should figure out how to get on S&L and then just try to check those boxes yeah let's just try to check those boxes okay also text of my mom's what's that I think drugs is one okay drugs is one probably doing some sort of stand-up is too writing yeah but but more so improv and writing writing it's a big one right we should probably start writing

skits. Yeah. We know people that have been on SNL. True, but we know people that have hosted SNL, not the people that have been like mainstays on SNL. Well, Anders was a rider. We interviewed Anders. He was a writer on SNL for a while. That's right. Now we know him now and it did follow me. So yeah, we could probably figure that out. That's okay. No, I'm saying we could figure that out. Yeah, we'll figure it out. Yeah, nothing. That's okay about it. Like a little bit. It's a good thing. It's it's all right. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's always you. We're boys now. I, uh, that's so far. I texted my mom for, uh, photo. by the way.

Of what? You're just standing? Yeah, with the metal. Duh. I don't get that. I don't believe in one bit. Let's do an ad read. Yeah, boys?

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about a year ago I went through like all my like spending and I was like you know why are my why is my monthly spending so much and I like went in like hand went through like all of my monthly like spending and I was like probably a thousand dollars of just crazy different things that I'm not even using so I'd like like not only did I have to unsubscribe those things I had to go to places that's place called the cool spot over there by where Will Compton's houses I had to go unscribed there it was like $200 a month and I had been there like three years. I had to go to unsubscribe. I had been there like three years. So shout out Rocket Money, dude. You got to dial in that spending, dial in that budget boys. You got to have it. Got to have it. It's been a huge weight off my shoulders. I recently did that two months ago. Yeah.

And it really is, like, at the end of the month, I look at my statement now. And I just feel so much better. I saved around 700 something. Love that. It was pretty crazy. It's huge. I have a question on this. Go ahead.

I, you know, like everybody, have all the streaming services. I love where you're going with this. it was on my brain too. How do you pick which ones to have? Like, because I, I should get rid of some so I can save some money. Right. But how do you pick which ones? Should we tear talk to streaming services?

We should tear talk to streaming services. That's a great idea, Jack. I like that. But I struggle because, like, recent episode, go check it out if not. But, like, I keep Hulu solely because Workaholics is on Hulu. I don't watch anything else on Hulu. Yeah. There is good stuff for the other.

Archers on Hulu. Yeah. I've been diving into that lately. I've rewatched. Also, Entourage is on Hulu now. Is it? It's not on HMAX anymore? As yesterday, I was literally thumbing through, just trying to figure out something to watch.

And I saw Entourage. I was like, oh, shit. It's on Hulu. Because I got Hulu. I got Prime. I got Apple, if that's, is that a streaming service? I got Disney. I got all.

Dude, I got a fuck. I got all of them. Yeah. It's crazy. I did do the bundle. where it's like Disney, Hulu, and... ESPN. One of them as a bundle.

They have like a couple options. So I did do that, but like, yeah, I mean, how do you know what you want? Because at one point it was like, yo, we should get rid of cable. It's cheaper and better to just do the streaming services. They beat us, boys. We're in a bad spot right now because we're spending way more,

I bet, than we were on cable before. Even with all the fixings you would get. The HBO's, the Cinemax. Cinemax. All those things, dude. Stars. Skinimax back in the day now. That was epic.

How I got got is through Roku TV, you can set up your debit card, like on your Roku. And then when you download the app, it'll say, hey, we already have your email and your payment thing. You just say, yes, I want to subscribe to it. We got you. And so when I started going through my statement, I was Discovery Channel Plus, Paramount Plus, Peacock. Paramount 2, dude. I unsubscribe from at least six or seven. Yeah.

That I didn't even know like really that I had, truly. Yeah. And that's like 70 bucks right there, 80 bucks right there. So I know we're going to tear talk to this. I also want to give it a pet peeve real quick. That just, you have scramble my brain. My pet peeve this week is when a new movie comes out on Apple and you go to watch the movie. And you can rent it for $25 or buy it for $29.

that shit pisses me off because you know what you're doing you know what you're doing the brain the brain wants to go to yeah Moana 2 dude my kids that movie came out kids wanted to watch it and I looked at it I was like dude I'm not spending $25 on a 48 hour rental

that's crazy so I told them I was like I'm gonna buy this movie but y'all better watch this movie at least six times and they made a promise because in my head it's like okay yeah six divided by 30 whatever that is there's your math five bucks boom you know how's going on that

did you know I'm fucking with that five dollars So I told my kids, I will buy this, but you need in the next year to watch this movie six times. And they agreed. They've watched it twice so far. And it's only been two months. So I'm about to get that shit down. But it is so annoying.

Can you return it? Good question. Good question. I wonder what the saleback is. If you watch it under the six times. Yeah, you get like a certain percentage of your money back. That's what you should do. Because that shit is, that fucking frustrates me a lot, man.

Because you know they've got you by the balls And it's like I want to watch this movie First off, I'm one or two if you haven't seen it Go watch it especially if you have kids If you don't have kids, watch it by yourself Like don't want people watching kids. No, those are great movies. Great movies.

But also, you don't want to be a guy in a theater By yourself at a kid's movie. I don't know. Would you rather? You don't want to be a guy by yourself at a premiere of a kid's movie. You just don't want to be that guy. That's a premiere.

Okay, the opening weekend. If there's kids in a premiere, it's midnight. To reach for it, kid. Let me talk about this. Go ahead. So as an adult, though, as an adult, you got to go to like the 915, 10 PM showing because if a parent is bringing their kids to something that late, that's on the parent for bringing it.

Like, you shouldn't have your kid up that late. I agree. So that's why you hit a 915 or a 10 p.m. preview, you don't have to feel weird. You can actually judge the parents for being bad guardians. I agree. But definitely don't. I'm high in front of your kids. That's your fault.

It's 11 p.m. And, like, what are you doing? You really, you really want to go, like, with your significant other or, like, your wife or girlfriend. Because you show up in, like, low-key, it's for you, but you're like, yeah, my girl just wanted to see this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know what, dude, there's nothing wrong with going to a kid's movie as an adult with no kids. But post-8. It's certain hours, maybe.

Yeah, after 9 p.m. creepy. Come on. And you got, like, a juice box, too, with you, but there's no kids. You got a juice box. Something's different. I mean, suck it on eye. I see in front of a bunch of kids

I mean, I don't know what the hate on icey Slurping on a slurpy At 4 p.m. In front of a bunch of kids, dude, I don't know. I don't know this is not for me. Now, I have kids So I can do whatever I want. You can slip on a slurpy.

No problem, dude. I'm going to let you guys know. You're 30, dude. You're going to get it soon. I got to have kids soon. Got to have, you should Elon Muskett, dude. Just start putting your seed in different places. Just start popping the thing out.

I actually almost did. I almost took my niece to me some. Moana too, but she got sick over Thanksgiving, so we couldn't go. Did you go by yourself? No. But I could have because it was in Atlanta. So like, they don't know me. Right. ATL.

You wear sunglasses. No doubt. Trench coat. Nothing underneath. You do like that. Slurping on a slurpy, dude. That is pretty wild. Should we stay on my list? Should we stay on my list of categories?

Yeah. Oh yeah, it's your talk, dude. off the bat off just my brain without doing a whole lot of research Tier 3 I'm going to give it to Hulu I think Hulu is pretty fantastic

especially with the additional entourage they've always got a lot of things sometimes I go to Apple can I put Apple in it? Yeah Apple TV Okay okay I just don't I don't know I feel like Apple's like a facilitator I'll look something up

and then I'll be like oh you got to go to this for that but I'll go Hulu Tier 3 Tier 2 I'm going to give to Apple I might be the best, but my tier one, I feel like it's just OG and they've gotten so much better. But I love Apple. I love the original shows they have Masters of the Air most recent. I think it's fantastic.

And it is my, like, it's my facilitator. Like if I don't know where to find something, I go to the Apple, I put in the search bar, I start typing it. And it lets me know where I need to go. My tier one, Netflix. My tier one is Netflix. They're phenomenal. I remember they started off just being outside of a Safeway grocery store

and you get the DVDs and you bring it back then they have the streaming starting and it was just like ass old TV shows. Now they have their original series. They have great movies. They have great shows Netflix. Number one. Live streaming. Great reality TV. Solid. Good. Strong. Yeah, solid.

All right. Does anyone have a different setup? They want to... Oh, Trim. I have a different setup. I have an honorable mention to Shudder. It's a horror movie only streaming service. They've not even knew that existed. That might have made mine. You would actually love it for Spooktober.

Delaney probably started it. I think Delaney and I have talked about Shutter now that I think about it. But Shudder, honorable mention. Three. Hulu. I'm going based off content too. Not like how the app goes or what's on it, but like, a real. original content stuff, or just their category folder of movies.

So Hulu, it would be higher if I didn't have to pay more for no ads. 2. Netflix. Love Netflix. Love the original content. It is starting to get oversaturated, so it's not number one. Number one might be controversial. Max, HBO Max, just based off quality of content.

True Detective, Sopranos, Game of Thurbanos, Game of Thurbanos. Game of Thrones the list goes on I mean they got bangers so that's my tear talk okay strong solid

good okay so we all just like the streaming services well thought out so we all just like streaming services we're basically just saying they're all good okay I lookie I use peacock

it's my honorable mention it would be my audible you know what never mind The only reason I use Peacock, for the most part, is to watch the reruns of the Supercross Race. So I can watch that. Don't laugh at that, Jack. I'm not even thinking about it.

You let him be who he is. And then my three would be Hulu, then Netflix, and then Max. So you don't have to... Three Hulu, Netflix, Max. So same as Shirm. Yeah. I don't know he was Netflix. Yeah, it was the exact same, actually.

That's okay. Love Netflix. We love Netflix. love Netflix on this show. Love. Love Netflix. Go ahead. It's all, hey, good job. Good job.

Peacock. Not. Dude, who is listening to this intro right now? This is Tier 1 shit right here. What this made me realize is at the back of the bus needs its own pod. You guys, do the numbers, you guys and have one. We'll just tell.

You just want to try out your own podcast. stories and uh yeah you just tell sherman lies and then make fun of sherman for it and then and then rank everything just the same yeah right yeah so you guys will have the same show if you guys want to do your own podcast and this is up for the comment section if you guys want to do your own podcast and try it out you're more than welcome to do it but yeah what's the but it's got to make sense eventually i don't know i don't know what the i guess it has to be monetizable like you know i mean even even if it's not like if you just want to do it you guys can i guess like it's for free conch do what you want for you call free conch that's a christalea is this ain't canada baby i say canada brother

like you guys want to do a little podcast in the back go ahead you should actually set up your own studio too we have four right here huh we have three we have three studios in this room like our own back of the bus you don't want to do it in the same no we wouldn't do it in here no no we would just do it this side right and just just just just I'm just kidding. Yeah, but if you all, y'all, I'm assuming the rest of the boys are probably going to sit in as well. You guys want to be that close? No, I'm joking.

We have to have Coop in here. Yeah, got to have Coop in here. He needs his own podcast. Yep. He needs his own. Yeah. Coop's corner. I like that.

Me, but also set up four chairs in front of the green screen. Boom. You're welcome. And just leave it green. Yeah. I can do pre-production stuff for you guys. Like, Sherm. I'll set up a little, put a motivational video.

Let's go. Things I think we can talk about guys. Let's see here. Baylor did good this week. Let's talk about Baylor. You know? Right. Nothing to call home about, but...

Right home about. Right home about. Let's go. Yeah. We should do an opposite day. Yeah. You want me to fuck up that dashboard. Go ahead.

I'll go back there and start meticulously pressing buttons. Yeah. They're fucking DJing on that thing. Do we have any other combinations of the streaming services that we'd like to tear talk? I know my two boys are up on. I think I'd keep my own. I think I'd keep mine the same with... I don't really have like an order,

but it's Max, it's Netflix, it's Hulu, but my honorable mention would go to Disney. I don't fuck with Disney like that. Really? But you just bought Milana 2 for 29... Here's what I don't. I love the content that Disney provides. I do like that a lot.

Miracle's also on that, so... And all the Marvel movies? Yeah, which I don't know yet. Star Wars. No, listen, listen, listen, guys, my show hold on my show my show okay motor cross

I have the reins here boys let me handle this one real quick I enjoy Disney I love Disney's the content that they have however when I go to my Apple and I type in what I want to watch

and then it sends me to Disney Disney makes it a fucked up where I have to like now go to Disney to search to find that content I don't like the process it takes to get to my viewing pleasures when I'm finally viewing it I'm having pleasure.

But it's getting to the pleasure. If I don't know exactly where it's at, if I don't know it's on Disney and I have to go to Apple and it says, oh, by the way, it's on Disney, I shrug my shoulders and have a deep exhale because I know I'm going to have to go to Disney and search it. It doesn't just bring me to the thing.

It sounds like you use Apple as like a Google search. Yeah. I feel like I've been pretty clear about that. I know, but I feel like I've never had that experience when I go to Apple TV. I see that little Apple TV. I see that little apple do with a little bite taken out of it. I go to the search button there. And it kind of like, you want to find this.

It'll be on Disney. I think, fuck. There's an app on your phone for that called IMD. Or Google. That sounds like crazy to me. If I'm already on the deal, why want I just keep using the deal? If I had to go off this deal to a new deal, that's a whole different deal. You can just go here.

Here's where you and I differ. This is my remote control for my TV. Same. So I go like this. I'm doing this. And then. So then I have to like swipe up, scroll over, boom. Read, get on the app that has to recalibrate the internet.

You can also go, hey Siri. That's a good point, Gee. That's a good one. I don't utilize Siri enough. She's a little bit of a bitch, to be honest. Oh, you're right. Right. Hey, Siri.

Love you. Popped up. Always listening. She's always listening. All right, dude, we feel good about it. Wait, one thing. I was in the boat with everyone on Hulu, Disney, Max, Apple TV. Netflix.

Yeah, Netflix. The only thing that I would add is my third is YouTube. TV because it's become almost like the premiere like cable streaming platform. You're absolutely right. And on top of that, you can go to their movie tabs and it'll show you every movie that's on currently in cable, every movie that's going to come on later in the day. And they have a bunch of free movies. I, it's not my first go to, but like last night when I was watching SNL 50 during

commercial breaks, I'm flipping back between that and Captain America Civil War. Just, you know, Bing, Boom. So I do like YouTube TV, but yeah, we're at a point where cable TV was. cheaper now. Everything on streaming is killing us and in some point in every single platform whether it's Netflix, Hulu Apple, every six months they go up three or four bucks

like now on Hulu, Hulu's my number one but I have no ads and I think I pay like $18 a month and I'm like it's like come on. What are we doing? That's one movie on Apple. That's not even the full price of Mwana 2 that I paid for. But yeah. Well that's fun. I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that for

sure. That's your talk. We were going to do major sports tournaments, but psych? We can save it. We'll save it. We'll save it. We'll kick that can down the road a little bit. How are we feeling, boy, should we probably get to the podcast a little bit? Yeah, I mean, this guest is electric. Electric. But I do want to talk about one more thing, one more thing, and then we'll get to the guest. Dude, Canada, right? Like, we buy it. No, I'm just kidding. I want to give a special shout out to Richie Incognito. I think So Richie and I were not as close as we used to be, but we used to be legit best friends. Like at one point was the godfather of my firstborn child.

Huh? Is he not anymore? No, no, no. Well, we didn't know. He's not anymore. He's not anymore. We did some new paperwork. Okay, gosh.

But I know there's a shitload of trials and tribulations that Richie Incognito has had, whether it be in college or all over the place and stuff. But the biggest thing that's kind of like carried weight on history. shoulders for the longest time was this Jonathan Martin out of Stanford going to Miami and this whole like bullying saga that took place with Richie that fucked him in so many ways like he had a pro bowl season at Miami and was about to get broke off and then in that off season Jonathan Martin comes out I think he retired I don't know the full I know the full story is just not coming back to me right now like retires because he's getting bullied or he doesn't retire but he says he's getting bullied by

Richie paints Richie in this horrible, horrible picture. And I'm not here to say that Richie Incognito, like his track record isn't like, you know, got some bumps and bruises to it. Don't get me wrong. The boys had had some issues. But that really screwed him over in a lot of ways and probably contributed to a lot more things happening in his, in the future after that, that painted him in a bad light. Guy is a sweet individual.

He's a good man. When Richie is his healthiest version of himself, he's a great person. He cares about people. He loves people. him and Taylin, he was around when Taylor and I first met. And I told Richie in confidence, like, hey, I'm probably going to propose to this girl. And he sat me down and gave me the whole like, you know, conversation like, hey, this girl, like, you just met this girl. You're in the NFL.

Like, you got to, you know, we all know what I'm talking about. There's some areas that you're going to have to look at and make sure that you're safe and all that. But eventually when I told him like, yeah, I'm going to marry this girl, he was the first one to support me. He was supposed to be in my wedding. Um, but all it to be said is like, it's super special, not special. It's great to see Jonathan Martin say that was a lie. And Richie get that off his back a little bit because he, he missed out on millions of dollars because of it. He was able to get broke off.

And I just think it's good for somebody who didn't actually do the bad thing that people said he was so bad for doing, you know, have his deal. And we're in Jonathan Martin, you know, I think it's a scumbag move. I think it's fucked up. I know he's had his own issues himself, but have your own problems and to project it onto somebody else so they have more problems, it's not going to take away your problems.

So I don't know the full story allegedly of how Jonathan Martin came to this conclusion that he should now be truthful about the whole bullying thing. It's scummy, but it is what it is, and I'm stoked for Richie to have this. Regardless of anything,

like financially comes from this or if anything like, just for him to have the peace of mind, to know that this is all over. That fires me up for the boy. He deserves it. He's a good person. And I think the sports world needs to apologize

to Richie Incognito to some extent. That's what they need to do. Not me. I've always had his back. Anyway, Kevin's Natural Foods. Yep, sure. I was going to say, it was funny that his first reaction was then

to post pictures of that guy and be like, yeah, I'm really bullying him. Right. Really bullying him. I know. I saw him, one of him, Jonathan Marnin and Marquis Pouncy, when they're going,

They're in Indianapolis on a carriage ride. He's like wearing a blanket. It's funny. It made me laugh because I remember me, Ben Jones and Jack Conklin actually doing the same thing. And I was the one bitching about being cold. So like that's, it's just fun.

And it's like, yeah, like football, there is bullying that goes on. Don't get twisted. But like, there's still fun times to be had. And like,

you got to razz the boys a little bit. So how about having thick skin? But let's talk about Kevin's natural food a little bit. All right. Let's keep this our healthiest year ever. If you haven't tried Kevin's natural food, you're missing out, dude.

I'm a huge, fan of the salonzo lime chicken. If you don't like sloshal lime chicken, you can always have the Thai-style coconut chicken and the Korean barbecue. Boys, I'm telling you right now. We've done a couple of custom ads for these people. Gee, he makes the plate.

He gets it all ready. It's like, hey, here's what we're going to do after that. I end up eating the whole damn plate every single time. I'm talking about gluten-free, non-GMO, it's paleo. The shit's delicious. And if you want delicious protein-packed meals on the table in five minutes, Kevin Natural Foods, heat and serve entrees are perfect.

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Find Kevin's in the natural... Find Kevin's in the refrigerated section at your grocery store. This stuff is actually really good. It is. It's one of those things where it's like... You want to promote all the things that you truly believe in. And Kevin's natural food is absolutely delicious. So yeah, I'm glad I said that about Richie. I'm glad we talked about Canada.

Let's warm the weather up a little bit in there. Let's get that figured out. I love the rivalry that's going on. I love the direction our national championship is, headed in great great intro boys and if you stuck around with for this long you're a tier one because we have been really just kind of fucking off for what an hour uh hour 20 yeah i mean that's ridiculous that's probably a little too much good hang good hang good hang it was a good hang also a couple of things of note something to look up uh look forward to possible back of the boys podcast coming

yeah help us think of names in the comments please back of the bus would probably be a good starting point for that name of the podcast um but yeah if you have different ideas for names that's great too also stream this week we're not listening cam belden Tres win I'm not doing a stream this week

I got so much shit to do on Tuesday I'm not fucking doing it however you guys have been up my ass I owe you guys big time next week we'll do double streams we'll do double streams Tuesday and Wednesday we're going to do Red Dead Redemption 2 we're going to get back on the saddle get after it we're going to be all about it dude

because I do want to jump back in that game Cod has been unbelievable, but we're definitely going to do R-D-2. I owe it to at least you two guys. You guys have been around enough. You guys have been up my ass and my Twitter as well. James Winston,

dude, there is not enough good things you could say about this guest. The guy, it starts with the crab legs, people get pissed off at him. He gets drafted first overall. He has these ups and downs, but the presence and the, and the passion that this guy has in this podcast is incredible.

He came with a slew of gentlemen. He came with so many people, cousins, aunts, uncles, a whole bunch of family members around him. They basically, Fox basically gave him a microphone for the entire week in New Orleans. And every single time I saw him on Twitter, I had to watch. He is incredible content. He's going to have a huge career after football while he's already having a massive career right now. I'm so excited for him. I'm excited for his future.

And I'm excited for this upcoming season to see where he heads off to. Big fan of James Winston. please enjoy this episode. If you're not subscribed, please subscribe. Please comment as well. Big hugs, tiny kisses, USA Forever. 50 stars, 51 stars, 13 bars. These colors don't run.

Been running the world since 1776. Back-to-back world champs. Enjoy the episode. All right, welcome to Bussing with the boys. We have an awesome guest. James Winston. Florida State Seminole. Buccaneer, New Orleans Saints, Cleveland Browns.

Bro, thank you for coming on the show. You got massive fans all over the place with Buss and with the boys. Man, it's an unapprovedish to be here. I'm on these greatness, this greatness. I see, I see, I see you're holding some, some real tea. Yeah. What's, what do you got going on in real tea? Well, I mean, real tea is the best tea out there on the market, just the clean ingredients.

And when I, I just actually just finished the workout, so I had to make sure that I hydrated up with my real tea, bro. You're in with a good crew. I feel like I've seen Theo Vaughn. Yeah, real tea. So they mix the rounds with some big time people, man. Yeah, I mean. That is awesome.

Theo Vaughan had an interview with President-elect 47, and these cans were in the background, bro. So I think that's a good thing. Dude, seeing him do that with Theo, of all the podcasts he did, that was my favorite one to watch. That and Schultz's one. Yeah, I mean, Schultz's was a good one. It was awesome.

Busse with the boys. Very nerve-wracking for busting with the boys. But they were talking about, like, cocaine and stuff like that to me. It was just so funny because he's so authentically himself. Similar to you. Yeah. Did you, when you're coming out of college and the whole crab like things happened, who's going to be first, you were Marcus, like, I feel like there was a dip in like,

oh, this guy, like maybe people weren't appreciating your personality. You flip over, it's been 10 years now. You are like the media darling. I watch you at media days on Monday. The way you set up the joke for what's your favorite color to Chris Jones, the way, like you're the comedic timing, the, how authentic you are, like talking to Will, he was at Barstle. We have never actually met like Face Face it.

Maybe one time after a game. Yeah. But hearing that like you're the same guy. Like at any point throughout your career where you're like, do I need to be a little more like the model student these teams want me to be? Or did you never waver in who you were as a person? Well, when I first got the Tampa, I think like that was the compromise that I first made. Like just trying to get out of the media as public enemy number one. Because I wanted people to really see who I truly was.

So I invested time in the community. I invested a lot of time with my teammates. And I always consider myself like a people pleaser. But that wasn't necessarily me at that time in Tampa. Because I was like, man, I'm so focused on me as the person. But when you're a good person, you don't have to try to be a good person. And I put so much thought energy and so much time and effort to like, oh, man, I got to show these people that I'm not who they think I am.

Right. But at the end of the day, it's not actually, it's not, you are not who. who you think you are, but what you think you are. So it's putting my energy toward like, man, my play toward like developing a family, spending more like in Tampa, that was my young days, you know? So like, I'm in a new city, you know, it's living young, wild and free. But at the same time, I have a girlfriend that's living in Texas, you know. So I'm trying to manage that relationship and also focus on my dream, focus on winning

the Super Bowl, focus on being the best quarterback and teammate I can possibly be, and focus on being the best man that I possibly can be without the last. limitations and perception that others had of me at that time. When you are stripping those things off, like talk about what it was like for you becoming a professional. When you're around guys in the league that have been around a long time, like, yeah, I'm thinking of Tampa. You're around like Levante, David, Gerald McCoy, Mike Evans,

like guys who are becoming pros. Because when you come out, you've been a dual-threat quarterback. You've been the man since high school. You've obviously made your rounds in the headlines when you were in college. And when you get drafted and you're going to Tampa, like, talk about what it was like for you becoming that pro, stripping yourself of the, you know, the past and everything else and the perceptions that people had about you, like becoming that ultimate pro that you're supposed to be in the NFL.

Yeah, well, one thing that a wise person shared with me, Joe Thaisman, and we had a tough conversation at the Walter Camp Award. And we're talking about just like, I was just explaining him like, man, Joe, like, that's not me. Like, what you heard about me on TV, like, that's not me. Like, I'm a southern boy from Alabama. I respect my elders. I respect everyone that I encounter with. Like, that's just how I was born and raised. And he was like, James, he's like, I can tell, look in your eyes, I can tell that's not you. But I want you to understand what this business is and what public perception is. Perception is reality. So instead of you telling me, or instead of you forcing people to like you or instead of you trying to convince somebody who you are,

people are going to believe what they want to believe. So you should just do that consistent day in and day out. He said, the more that you do that, it's going to come out who you truly are. He's like, because you can't hide truth. Like, truth is eventually going to come out to the light. But in terms of like veterans like Jerry McCoy, another veteran that was, that really helped me, was Lewis Murphy because he had a chance to be in Oakland and Carolina around Cameroon, Darecar and guys like that. Levante David, just his poor, his presence in the Tampa community. Another big one that y'all probably remember his name, Clint McDonnell. Like just, just, That's a true man of faith.

I had the opportunity to go to, like, you know, when you're young, you're trying to go to every event that your teammate has. Absolutely. So the first time I went to Little Rock, Arkansas, was to one of his charity events for his foundation with his family and just seeing him as a man with his girls and his wife. And I took my girlfriend at the time, now wife. And that was one of the changing points in my life

in terms of like my commitment and my love and my consistency with my wife. wife in terms of like when I saw that him represent his foundation people in his city coming to support him I understood like man like I know it's bigger than me and I have a partner who I can support and who I can help lead to grow with me to be involved with all these great things in community family brands like all that stuff became important to me because I saw this man Clint McDonnell religiously like we went to a football camp he had a golf tournament but who he was in his community. I'm just like, man, like, this is me to my community. But what he's displaying with his wife, with his kids in front of his family is that consistency, that, that, that

foundation. And that's something that I'm chasing. So when I was in Little Rock Arkansas, I was like, man, like, this is who I'm going to be. And like, I'm not wavering from this. Like, I'm going be intentional with my wife. Like, I'm going to, I'm going to get that fix. Like, we're not about to be going back and forth. Like, I'm going to be intentional with what I want. to do, how I want to serve my community, how I want to impact the younger generation. And obviously, I feel like ball has always been on the top of my mind because that's something that we all have tried to perfect a long guy journey anyway. Yeah.

You talk about the ball being the top of mind. Like, NFL stands for not for long in so many ways. Like, you only have a finite amount of years to accomplish what your childhood dream was. How do you find balance when you get home? Well, you find balance bound being all living. on every stage. And again, one of my biggest growth stages as well in 2019 where I got around Clyde Christensen, who coached Payton.

And, you know, Payton studied like no other. And Clyde, he was like, I was the first person to really encourage him. Like, hey, man, like, what you do in this building is what you're doing in this building. But once you go home, you need to go home and be that same caliber studier, same present person, same leader to your family. And I was like, okay. So one thing that we did, we started developing a plan. I never really had a plan, right?

I had my offseason plan, but my end season plan was, you know, studying, watching four games on Monday, Tuesday, getting an early bead on third downs and watching some more on the rundowns. But I've never ridden it down to what I was specifically going to do. So I wasn't really holding myself accountable to the things that I was doing to prepare. I was preparing. I was landing on the line, but it wasn't strategized. You're like checking a box and you're like, oh, I watch these four games. Boom, I watch it four games. Yeah.

Watch a little bit third down. Okay, I now know third down. Right. I never put thought energy into the preparation side of it. I just did it because I loved it and I knew what was required to be a successful quarterback and I knew I couldn't go out there unprepared. But I never thought that me actually sitting down with my quarterback coach planning what I am going to do, how much accountability that brings.

Because I'm saying like if I'm going to write this down and freaking and, in, and, in, June, what I'm going to do in the months of September, October, November, and December. That's a level of commitment to like doing those things and making sure that you actually are being those things and not just saying, oh, I wrote this down just to write it for the love of the game. It seems easy to check boxes in the NFL for sure. You can just feel the energy of Jamis already in this room. And it lifts you up. Yeah, it does. He's truly, he's the rising tide that is lifting our ship. Yeah, yeah. I appreciate y'all, but I'm on the boat with y'all.

Hey, I've been seeing you getting in the mix. Yeah. I've been seeing you getting in the mix. You had something you were, you know, Taylor was talking about earlier, but hitting media days on behalf of Fox Sports. You've been going on pods. Like, do you ever get fascinated by the things outside of football? Because we all eventually, the game comes for us all.

Do you see yourself doing something like that after football? Man, I consider myself a man of inquiry. So whatever I can do to uplift people, uplift a brand, uplift a company, I'm going to do it. But right now, like, man, my main goal, like, my contingency plan is nonexistent. My main goal is to be a Super Bowl winning, starring quarterback in this NFL league. And, like, do you know the time, the effort, the dedication and preparation that entails that? You know, obviously my charisma, who I am, like, that's going to remain the same.

That's my foundation because my faith. That's who I am. That's what I'm imitating Christ. So I know, like, that's going to remain the same. but my dream is to lead my team to the Super Bowl. And I still haven't done that yet. And I can't, I will not allow myself to be still in this business, still have opportunities and not put, dedicate my time and energy to assisting, serving, or helping my team reach that goal.

Yeah, it's an impossible game to be half in and half out about. Yeah. Especially as a starting quarterback. Yeah. When you look at like the position you were in this year, Deshaun Watson, he gets, It's her. You come in. We go up, we go down.

We're kind of moving around a little bit. But you're slinging the ball everywhere. Yeah. Are you looking at guys like Baker Mayfield, who's, you know, went to the Browns. People kind of cursed him out of the building. He gets out of there. And now he's like kind of reset himself and calibrated himself in Tampa as a starting quarterback. Like, what quarterbacks are you watching me?

Like, I need to imitate this to take the next step for that so I can achieve the goal you were just talking about. Yeah. Honestly, the quarterbacks that I've been watching this off season has been Ann Roders and Russell Wilson because I think they do a good job of limiting their own critical error. And sometimes with their play, you don't see, like, early on in both their careers, you see the flashy. They show you they can make a play when it's time to make a play. But sometimes they play games where you're just like, man, like they have took 18 consecutive checkdowns.

You know, and I think that's the part of my game where I have to really master. I know I can win a shootout. I know I can go out there and- Throw for 500. Sergically. You sling that thing. Surgically dissect any defense that comes my way. Yeah.

But now the key to my. game to me actually elongating my career is winning football games and protecting our team to the best best of it. Definitely from an operation standpoint is what you're talking about. Talk to me. Explain to me Aaron Rogers and Russell Wilson.

I've been a little negative on Russell Wilson. He had a nice couple of weeks in the middle of the season with the Steelers. But Aaron, for you bring up those two names like Aaron didn't have a great year. The Jets were back on the Super Bowl contending they were having a parade in May when he's when he's killing back. It doesn't work out that way, why those two quarterbacks?

Well, those two quarterbacks specifically because I think they do a good job of having a plan for the game. And they might not have 500 yards in the first half. They might have 80 yards, but they know when to turn it on and when to turn it off. And no, they didn't have, like, Russ probably didn't finish the way that he wanted to finish. But if you watch the course of his games, man, he is managing the game and is in complete control of what he wants to do. Same thing with Aaron.

Yeah, he had some ups and downs. He didn't have the year that he wanted to have. But still throughout the consistency of his play, week in and week out, is protecting the team. He plays that, like, I call it selfishly thinking about yourself. Like, they play in a way to like, man, I'm not thinking about my stats.

I'm trying to see, like, I'm not going to mess it up. I'm going to let the other team mess it up. And then when it's time for me to make a play, I have the God-given ability to go out there and execute to make that play. Right. That's what you're basically what you're saying is when to turn it on and turn it off. Yeah. All right. Talk about the mental game.

Like when you are out there slinging it one week. Yeah. And then you have the picks. I think you had a couple of big sixes on like Monday night. Yeah. Like when you hear the rumblings and you do an interception. Like talk about the mental game. Do you ever get caught up and turning the ball over when you have all these touchdowns one week?

You turn the ball over next. Talk about like being able to separate yourself, zoom out, give yourself perspective, give yourself gratitude. Because just as athletes, you just know that it is a constant mental game like when you are. Are you basically what was asking is, have you ever brought a book on the sidelines to read between series? Never, never in my life. But I have, I have written things on my wristband, like patience, precision, execution, feet. The mental game is so important because, like, we all know this, like, as athletes, you know,

you hear the saying, like, the game is 90% mental, 10% physical. And to a point, it's true, because we got our God-given abilities. Like, we can do this or we, oh, we won't be able to do this. won't be in Lee long. Right. They do a good job of assessing talent. But I would have to credit my mental capacity in terms of handling highs and lows, one with my faith journey and my knowledge of just the word of one of my favorite verses

is James two to four. What I say is count it all joy, my brothers and sisters when you fall, when you fall into various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience endurance. But let that endurance, let that patience have its. perfect work so that you can be complete lacking nothing. Ultimately, that's what I'm trying to do. So intentional with that quote. But in terms of- I want to play a game right now. But literally, in terms of my play, like, that's why I'm, like, I know, okay, some things are going to happen, right? But when they happen, I counted as,

man, I see the good in everything. I have joy in when bad things happen because now I get the opportunity to make up for it. But sometimes they gets me in trouble because I want to make up for right then. But that's not. Start pushing the envelope. That's, but that isn't allowing the perfect work to happen. Sometimes a good play is no play at all, right? But I view this in terms of the highs and lows, I view it from a baseball perspective.

Okay, I play baseball. Y'all play baseball. Growing up a little bit. Yeah. So you get in the Hall of Fame, you get in the Hall of Fame going one for three. Right. So it's a sport that okays failure. Like, as a quarterback, man, what a great statistic. I want to go 22 for 28, 300 and 778 yards with four touchdowns and zero interceptions.

Right. 22 for 28 is perfect in baseball. If I told you, man, I went 22 for 28 this weekend with eight doubles and four home runs and, you know, three triples. Yeah. Like that's unbelievable. But literally baseball turns, I can go one for three. and making it a Hall of Fame. That's a 300 average. So understanding like, man, it's okay to fail,

but I got to make the most of my opportunity when it's there. I got to have a snap and clear mentality because I might have struck out of this last abat, but this at bat, I have a chance, right? And I believe that. Like, you can see that in the way that I play. I go out there with the approach, like, we have a chance as long there is time on that clock.

But I think I know understanding that, man, I need to play like for four quarters instead of just playing for that specific drive. I need to play for that specific play knowing that it's going to take me four quarters to win this game. Instead of trying to win on that one play. Right. Yeah. Yeah, you seem like just quickly sitting here. It's like him going back to Aaron Rogers and Russell Wilson.

It's like eliminating things like, hey, the game's going to come one play at a time versus, hey, I got to be Superman now. Right. In the next series. Of all the people we've talked to in the short amount of time we've been here, it's like maybe the most intentional human being we've ever spoke to. Yeah. Or at least trying to find intention.

Yeah. In every single situation. You brought a baseball dude, going one for three and being in the Hall of Fame. You had, like, you were in a rare breed of athlete where you were able to play,

choose whether or not you're going to go the baseball route or go the football route. What it inevitably brought you to? I'm going to chase my football dreams. My love for this game. My love for the game of football. My love for the, the position that quarterback entails, man.

Like, I think, when you look at a leader, in general. I think the quarterback is that person that displays what true leadership is like, especially when you got a good one and when you got one that the team likes. You know what I'm saying? Because we have to literally be able to communicate to everybody in the locker room. From all different walks of life, all different backgrounds, like we have to be the people that can get in front of our guys. And you might be from Iowa. You might be from Browah County.

and we got to make this thing work. And the only way we're going to make it work is together. And that's the quarterback's role. The quarterback's role is to make all these little pieces work and go. So I take pride in that. And let me say, when you're a P.O. And you're watching other people hit and watch other people win games, and you over to eat seas and chewing on Big Choo.

It ain't no fun, man. Big Choo is awesome. You out of the action. Yeah. I had something that just slit my mind. I got one. Before even Deshawn Watson goes down and you get your opportunity, there was even conversations before he goes down of putting James in

just because of the quarterback play that was happening. Walk us through this year, even before you getting to play, like how much were you having to be patient and persevere when even you might be on the side? Like, I know as a backup, somebody's not playing well, you're like itching for that opportunity and your time to shine. But what was it like for you early in the year, especially when those conversations started to happen on, A, it could be a move here to put James,

Winston in the game. Yeah, man, you know, I feel like, I feel like God put me in the test last year with Derek, where, man, we would go out in games and our fans, like, the Saints fans, like, they're born. They're born, and I'm having to sit in meetings. And I felt like, like from outside looking in, Deshaun is playing like he bad or Derek playing bad, but I felt like they're playing good because when I'm on your team, I'm there to serve you. I'm not there to serve the opinion or listen to the outside noise.

I'm there to make this thing work. When I tell all my team, it's like, if you're not trying to be part of the solution, you're not trying to win no games. I know that it's at the quarterback. It's only one person that's going to be out there. One. Everybody else, you play left tackle, you had a right tackle. There's a left guard.

There's a right guard. The center, the quarterback, there are only ones that are singler out there. You know what I'm saying? So I have to be all in of serving Deshaun and last year's opportunity, serving Derek despite the outside noise. Now, I also know that my opportunity is coming shortly. And I have to be ready for that as well. Doug, that is awesome.

Yeah. That is awesome. Because it's tough too, because you talk about the dream. You want to lead it to a Super Bowl. Like you hear the outside noise and everything else, but to compartmentalize it and know that, hey, if you're not part of the solution, you need to get out of the building because you're part of the problem

or you're creating a problem or some. toxic poison that's in that locker room, which you know it has to be eliminated if you're going to be a good football team. But well, I started with this. What I want for myself, I want for everyone. So what if that was me? You know what I'm saying? Imagine how many people then talk stuff about me, my entire life.

Right now, they bind their tongue because they're like, over time, the truth is going to set itself free. And I tell, I still tell the showin this, like, brother, listen, you may be going through a season of adversity. but I promise you, you're going to make it out of this. Despite public opinion, despite what everybody's on your case right now. But if you don't give up and you just use the ability that got, because the Sherwin Watson can play football.

You know what I'm saying? A lot of people as fans that the Twitter thumbs have, they quit to judge somebody, they quit to write somebody off because the game that we play in the NFL, we have the greatest game of them all because every single year there is 256. people coming in to take our spot that they're promoting this. They're like, we are celebrating the people that's coming in to take your spot with the draft. And we're going to give them fake watches and free watches.

We're going to boost up the brands. We're going to take some of your deals and give it to them. Even if they don't make it, they might not get cut the first day in, but we're telling you that they're coming. So in terms of our mentality, it has to remain, we got to remain steadfast. We can't never lose sight of what we won't because we know it's always going to be that next man up, it's always going to be someone that's cycling around. Guchamaine's always

say, like he's using the reference of his little flings, he would say, opportunities are like buses. Miss one, next 15, one coming. And you can look up the regular lyrics if you want to do that. But literally, you might miss the bus, but you've got to be ready for that next bus to come. But you've got to be

trying to buck it to get to the next bus stop so you can catch the bus. But if you don't want to catch the bus, then don't stand in the bus stop yeah you know what I'm saying absolutely um you talked about guys from my guys from all over the country going into one facility of 53 guys have that should have one goal that's the win of Super Bowl that's it when you go into your rookie season coming from florida state you win a national championship like you've you've been in the tip top of college and now you have put yourself back on the bottom of the totem pole what trials and tribulations did you have

maybe trying to push the envelope too much on how do i uh take leadership as opposed to earn the earn the leadership. That's a very difficult thing because everyone says the quarterback has to be the leader in the room. And to be a rookie immediately with grown men

who have kids, 401Ks, all that. And you're walking for your first time and they're like, yo, this shit is crazy. Yeah. Like you need to be a leader

in the situation. Where did you think you thrived and where are some areas that are like, oh, if I could go back, I would do that differently. The places that I thrive was just bringing youth

into the whole situation. Because I think even veterans in the locker room, they need to see someone who loves the game and instills that passion in them that they may have once had, or they might just need somebody to help them, assist them into finding their passion back.

And I know I did that to the best of my abilities. The thing that I feel like I could have did a better job at that I know I could have did a better job at was being unapologetically myself. The first few games at Tampa Bay, like when we used to lose, I just cry. You know, I used to, I really used to cry. Like, I hated losing. But alone, of course, I started to be okay with losing those. game. And when I consider myself being okay, that's why I said, no, I compromise too much.

I wasn't me. Like, I would never be okay with losing. But anytime, like, this is, this is like science. If you take a step backwards, that is going to hurt you way more than taking 10 steps forward. Because if you're consistently moving forward step by step, you're going to get farther. But the only time where you eliminate all chances is when you take a step backwards. And when you compromise who you truly are as a human being, you're taking a step backwards. So I try to please everyone else. Like, I ain't going to cry. I know we just got beat by 20.

I'm not going to cry. I'm just going to act like I'm happy. But that's, I'm acting like I'm happy and we just got beat by 20. Yeah. Like, that don't do nobody justice. Obviously, when you walk into the building, like, the mentality that you know, need to have, needs to be energetic, positive, so you don't bring anyone else down. But you can't be okay with losing.

Right. And that's the part that I felt like, before I got the NFL, I never lost. Like, I didn't lose, really, you know, not really. We always won. And I think that's the part in the NFL that is limiting me from getting to where I want to be because I don't have enough wins, you know? And like, early on in my temperance of years, me compromising to being okay. with losing, I think that impacted my wins

leading up to this point. Why do you feel like you started to be okay with losing? Because everyone else was okay with losing. And I had to be that person to make sure that they knew it's okay. You know what I'm saying? We just need to fix this. We just need to do this. We just need to do that instead of being like,

no, this ain't okay. We have to do this. This is required for us. Not what we need to do. Bro, this is a requirement. If we want our jobs, if we want to be everything that we want to be, It is a requirement that we give all we have in this game.

It is a requirement that we understand that winning is just as a contagious as losing. And I don't think people understand that. Yeah. When that first game of your NFL career, I was obviously on the other sideline. Yes, you were. Second year in the NFL. Yes. And there was always this back and forth about who's going on, Marcus or James.

And so the media is essentially establishing a rivalry between the two of you. Did you feel that rivalry going into that game or through the combine process, the interview process? I definitely felt that throughout the combined process, man, me and Marcus was training at the same place out in Carlsbad, prolific athletes with Ryan Flaherty. And it's such a great place. It's amazing. It's beautiful. And we were out there at the same place and like we would show up and like we never would work out together. Like literally, like if I was in the building, like he was either leaving or he was going to go somewhere else.

It was just never the brotherhood that you see the one and two typically has. You know what I'm saying? It was just like, you over there. I'm over here. Like, let's work, but I ain't trying to do it together. So no conversations took place because it is such an interesting rivalry to me because both of you guys are such good people. But I didn't tell you the good part. I was thinking the same.

I didn't tell you all the good part. Morgan's never said a bad thing about anybody ever. He's not a good part. I don't know, but I'm still trying to. back the audience out a little bit. James Winston and Marcus hated each other. We never hated each other, bro. We just, like, obviously, I was,

Marcus was always the quiet person among us two. So I know I probably have been extra in times I was around him. But last year, man, I took time just searching, like, who can I train with? And I took the accountability of going out to Oregon, going out of train with Jimmy Ratcliffe, who was a longtime strength coach at Oregon. just because I was focusing on my speed and agility.

So I went out there, and my chiropractor Eric Gorman is from Oregon and loves Oregon. So he's like, hey, let's go out here because he's the best. And Marcus was out there. So that was the first time in 10 years we actually trained together. And it was such a surreal moment because Marcus was the one that was showing me to exercise. I was like, dang, like, Marcus, you didn't have had this upper hand on me this whole time. You could have been put me on, dog. Like, what's going on?

But it was such a respectable moment because, you know, I got a chance to meet his wife. Then he was, I remember him playing soccer with his wife at prolific athletes. Like, his mental was already ahead, like, to focusing on his family, his journey. Like, he wasn't into all the things that I was into. He was focused on like, man, I got my family. I'm about to have this opportunity. I'm going to focus on that. I was focusing on, man, I got this opportunity.

I'm about to make the most of it. We've got to win the Super Bowl, man. I just won the championship, man. It's unstoppable. the only person that beat me in my college career. So I know I'm going to be better to him. I'm focusing on that lens, but he's focusing from the, like, he's focused from more of a creative mindset. It's like, I have my family. I have my gifts. I'm going to steward that. And I'm going to go to, I'm focusing more from the competitive mindset. Like, I'm going to be

better than you. I'm going to be due. I'm going to do this and that. And you can never have success focus from the competitive mindset. Right. You have to remain creative because if you're competitive, you focus on one thing and one thing open. But when you create a, You're able to adapt. You're able to make a transition when a transition is required. It's such a breath of fresh air because you talk to the normal thing with, I'll just speak for football players because what I remember is like you always find something. I got some special kids.

You always sit there and you're like, you know, I got a chip in my shoulder. And then you start to have success. And you feel that chip in your shoulder kind of going away. But then somebody gets drafted ahead of you or somebody does what they say is a better, for me, a better tackle than me. And it was like, that's all I needed to. replant this chip on my shoulder. So like, did you, Marcus ever like 10 years later sit down and be like, hey, I, the way

I approached the competition between us, I favor the way you did it over the way I did it. There was ever that like transparent conversation between you? No, we haven't had our yearly heart to heart yet. No. We have not done that. But no, what we had was just a moment of grace, a moment of peace. I was like, man, bro, like, I'm grateful. You're still in the lead, man.

like, bro, I'm grateful. Like, you still in the lead. Like, bro, we did it. We live in our dream together. So no matter what was our initial approach when we first started, we are here now. So let's focus on what we're going to do moving forward. And when he had his great game and watching, I shot him a tix. When I had a few good games, he shot me a tics.

And that is a relationship that we never developed through the course of 10 years, but with maturity, with growth, with gratefulness and understanding that, man, it's bigger than me. I can't let this game get in between some of the relationships and from the, in front of the good people that I have in my life. Yeah. You're known for your speeches. When was the first speech you gave?

How old were you? When you stood up, you're like, all right, I'm going to go ahead and do it. I'm going to stay up in front of this team and I'm going to deliver something. I don't know what it's going to be, but I got to say something. Man, I always had something to say. So I've never been short winning in the breath. You know, like, and I remember, like, the Bustman Tiger days. I'm like, man, we're going to go and tear their heads off, man.

These boys can't mess with us. I remember the murder, murder, kill, kill. Guess what happened? On the field, Bustlema Tigers got crumped. The other team got stumped, you know? Like, that's just the way of the land. Like, two white guys sitting here. Yeah, yeah.

But I'm just saying, like, y'all probably's over there. Who are we? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, let's rip their heads on, no doubt. We're going to out bear crawl them today. Come on, brother.

And we're thinking about, we're kicking the dog down. Boy, what's y'all doing over there? You know what I'm saying? Well, honestly. But honestly. But honestly, bro, like, I feel like the Lord stood with a voice. And I felt like early on in my career, that voice was taken away from me because of my energy being put to trying to prove to everybody who I was.

And when you are in a place of proving and constantly proving, you lose sight of your true growth. You lose sight of that true grace that you should give yourself. You lose sight of who you truly are because you're so immersed what someone else is thinking. And like one thing I love about just about Jesus in general, like when I forget what chapter was, but I know in Matthew 633, He talks about seeking first the kingdom of the Lord and all his righteousness. When someone is asking him, like, what two things should I take with me to be able to get into heaven? And he says, first, seek first the kingdom of God and all his righteousness and all things will be given to you. And the second thing, he says, love thy neighbor as thyself.

And when I get to that point, obviously, like, everything I do is for my faith. My foundation is in the Lord. But when I get to love thy neighbor as thyself, when I be speaking to young kids, I be like, man, he says love thy neighbor as thyself. So if you're not loving yourself, if you're not putting sweat equity in time into yourself, you will not be able to physically love your neighbor. You will not be able to physically serve someone else if you're not focusing on what you can do to be a solution for you. And that really just sit with me. And it encourages me every single day, like when I'm meeting new people, when I'm talking to my teammates,

when I'm kissing my babies, it's like, man, I'm about to love my baby as I love myself. But first, I got to make sure that my prology is straight. I got to make sure that I'm doing things in an efficient way. I got to make sure that I'm acting and not just saying. I got to make sure that I'm doing all these things for me to be able to be physically and mentally able to love someone else and serve someone else in a capacity that I may want to be served. I know that's deep. You know what I'm saying?

I don't be trying to hit you out with Bible service, but it's just the guy. I just take a one in this podcast. It's touching you right now. It's the God in me, you know, I think. Has it always came natural? Like, whether it's you're, you know, trying to rally the troops in middle school, high school, has that always came natural to you? It has.

It has always came natural. I've never been really lost for words, man. And I'm grateful for that. My dad has obviously, he's been my coach coming up. And it was kind of a way for me to get on some of my teammates' butts because it was always my fault. You know what I'm saying? Like he was always trying to hot.

me up and like, be like, you need to do this, you need to do that. Like, he stayed on me. He pushed me to that maximum level. So I'm like, he's going to push me. I'm going to push y'all last because y'all don't understand what I'm going through at home. Y'all, y'all just at practice, y'all just at practice, y'all ain't, y'all ain't making, y'all ain't, y'n making, y'all ain't in there blowing off them small cassette tapes. So your daddy, for your daddy, because we got old BC, BHS cassette taste that we got to put in a little

thing and then put it in the, in the, uh, in the BCR and then rewind it. And we're sitting there watching tape of our little league games. I'm like, Dad, they're like, does my uncle, man, you got to record all our games? Like, yes, you've been to watch this tape. You're about to see what you did. Why you flipped one right there? Like, dad, I don't know. Like, I'm trying to have fun.

How old are you when that's happening? Man, I started watching film when I was six years old, man. Like, literally, no, literally old VHS tapes, man. My dad pulling me in the back room. Like, hey, man, you done with your homework? Yes, all right. Come on in here. Like, literally, go give me that little tape.

right there when they had the liberty tapes, like the little cassette tape that you would put inside the VHS because they, like, they ain't. Because you'd have the camcorder. Yeah, you had the little tape and put it in the VHS. Yeah. And then push it in there, man. Like, I was like, man.

And then, you know, the lead tapes, my uncle man, up the God rest of soul, like, he's, he just seen me scoring a touchdown. The film over there. Go J. Boo! Go Jee Boo! I'm scoring the touchdown over there. I'm like, Dad, what I'm supposed to be looking at right here?

My shout off I hit you in your mouth. You know what I'm just, I'm just saying, obviously, it was a touch. You know what I'm saying? It ain't about to touchdown. You can't get a touchdown until you got a first down. Did you get a first down? But I got a touchdown.

How many first downs was the amount of y'all's that I had to get the first down? But now I credit my dad for like really giving me that voice, man, because he was always encouraging me to, one, be accountable with what I'm doing. And two, if you see something, say something. If you feel something, say something. Don't just sit here and look at me and tell me I was going to say this, but you know what? I ain't want to say it because I thought you was going to get mad at me. Who does that help?

You don't have nobody. Yeah. That's a massive piece of advice. You know what I'm saying? How do you deal with that? So six years old, you're watching film. Yeah. Like we all, I think every human being goes to that rebellious phase in their life, 13, 14, that testosterone starts a hit a little bit different.

Yeah. You start focusing on girls a little bit more. You start getting more rebellious towards your parents. How did you handle? Did you ever have a rebellious phase with your father or anybody? Uh, man. And one of the toughest times in my life was, uh, was 2019, man, when I felt like I was growing as a man, as an individual, uh, but my dad was going through some, some, some pains. I, I lost my grandmother, his mother, uh, the year before. And, uh, and my uncle, uh, my uncle died on my birthday, you know, uh, you know, it was just an early phase of COVID on my birthday of 2019. And, um, it was tough for him. And that was one of the first,

well, he was, he died the next year, but he was battling sicknesses and stuff. And it was tough with him, and he decided, like, I'm not going to go to any of your games. And like, I'm okay, like, okay, if we plan New York, you know what I'm saying, he don't like flying, I get that, you know,

but you're not, I'm coming to end of my home games. He was like, no, I just don't, I don't think so. I don't think I'm going to come to any of your games. And it was the first time where, like, me and him was, like, bumping heads. I was like, hold on now. Like, man, like this, one is my contract year.

like too like I need you now more than ever you know what I'm saying you've been in my life I'm fortunate to have a dad in my life and and you deciding not to come to my games this whole time I found out that my uncle was sick after that like he just was going through it because because of his mom and I've never seen him in that way and he didn't allow me to see him in that way until I was down bad until you know until I'm going into the Bucks facility in the middle of COVID training my butt off, like knowing that the world is shut down, but I see signs of TB12 being built in the middle of COVID. I said, now, how in the hell are they able to build a TB12 in the middle of code? And, like, and nothing is announced yet, but I'm going to the facility still. I'm like, man,

I'm going to get a chance to work with Tom Brady. Oh, my goodness, it's going to be amazing. And then breaking news, Tom Brady has just signed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And I'm just sitting there I knew that TB 12. There ain't done nothing to happen by coincidence. Like, I'm sitting there getting my life and I'm going through it with my dad. Like, I just been broke an NFL record with 30 touchdowns, 30 interceptions. Like, I ain't nobody going to ever break that ever. They just, they're not confident enough.

But, man, I just had this. And at the same time, like, me and my dad, we're going through it because I'm like, man, like, this is my biggest year ever. And you're not dead for me. But I look bad and I was like, man, I went, I wouldn't death for you either. either because and sometimes in African-American communities like, yeah, we have a dad present, but we're not consistently communicating with our father all the time. It's through sports.

It's through discipline where we are communicating with our fathers. We never sit there and have the quality time because our fathers are either grinding or out to have just a heart-to-heart conversation. You know, and that's why I take pride of like sitting down at a table with my wife and kids and saying like, man, if you could change anything about the world today, like, what would you change? Just giving them that authority that, like, you can speak to me about anything. I want to know what, like, what impact are you willing to make into this world? And I do believe that my relationship with my dad has grown since those two years just because

we actually had to see each other both and down stages. And we didn't want either us to be in that role. But there was things internally that we both was facing. that we had no choice but to confess and come out with because we both were in a down bad situation. Question for you with your dad. Oh, yes, roll. Hey. from Lucy.

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you got me curious now because obviously your dad was hard on you in a great way. I mean, it led you to be the player that you are, the man that you are. As you being a father now, everything you've learned from being, you know, fathered by your dad, how do you approach fatherhood with your kids,

knowing like, okay, they never did sit down and have the tough conversations or have the vulnerabilities or when you're sitting at dinner and everything else. How has your dad raising you helped you be the father that you are? Whether it's I'm going to take the things that he taught me and also I'm going to do things a little bit differently, you know, against the things that I feel like I did not get for him from him as a kid. Well, I'm so blessed and grateful that the time and the support that my wife gives me with my children of how on top of everything she is.

Like, I think it's truly a blessing when you have a partner that's like down for you. And I'm lucky because my, I met my baby when, in a hundred, a hundred years in high school. Like, we've been high school, sweetheart. We didn't went through everything together. Like, we didn't grew together, like inches. We didn't grew together. You know, we didn't have heartbreak. We didn't have upsets.

But, man, when I view my kids and I know I'm loving her and I'm willing to sacrifice and provide and protect her. When I'm looking at my babies, I want my babies to do as I do and not do as I say. So when I'm with them, I'm intentional with my words. I'm intentional with my actions because I want them to be young men of action. And right now, like they're six and four anyway. So what I'm really saying, they really probably not listen or hearing me. I know one of them definitely not listening to hearing me. But I do it with simple things. I engage with them by what they want. You know, because I want my baby. is to know what they heart truly desires.

Because I know, I always knew, well, honestly, I wanted to be a foot doctor. But I always knew I wanted to be an NFL, Super Bowl winning quarterback. Plan B was foot doctor. You know what I'm saying? Plan B was a podages because of the woman sent Yahobdi, who inspired me to be a foot doctor because she was taking care of my grandma feet and my daddy feet. So that's a long story. But anyway, for my babies, man, I just want them to do as I do and not do as I say, man.

And I want to continue to be this man of increase. And I want them to see me encountering with other people. people and leading other people so that they can know like, hey, this is, this is just what we do. This isn't, this ain't no facade. Like, my daddy is the best daddy in the world because of his actions, not because of what he's saying, not because what he necessarily tell me or write down in his journal. You know, I think that's an important part too. I have, I got my receipts.

You know, I got, I keep my journal, you know what I'm saying? So when I'm writing stuff down, like, I'm like, I'm going to read this. my six-year-old son, he'll sit there and read what I just said. So now we're doing tangible things. Like, man, what you writing that down for? Like, shoot, I wrote down, I'm kind. I'm grateful. I'm confident, man, because I need those affirmations just as much as you, my son.

You know, okay. So you're talking to yourself. I'm like, well, yes, I'm talking to myself, but we have the ability to speak life and to ourselves. You're like, so you still talking to yourself, though, Dad. I'm like, but it's okay to talk to yourself. We actually talk to ourselves more than anybody else. And he's like, okay.

And you don't understand the impact that you're making because they're still processing. Small brick by brick. Yes, it is. It's a process, man. That is awesome. It is, as two guys with kids as well, that's awesome to hear. You're doing everything you can. I know y'all doing the same thing.

He's got boys. I know, I know. Y'all got girls. Two girls. Two girls. They're the best. I would love an heir to the throne. Yeah, the throne.

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For 30 touchdowns and 30 interceptions. No one will ever do that. 33 touchdowns and 30 interceptions. This question is so tailored to you. I hope you embrace it and you love it. It's halftime. The three of us were down three scores. We got to rally the troops.

What are you saying to the boys at halftime? Coach, looks at everybody. He says a couple of words. James, bring them up. Hey y'all, it's zero zero. What happened? Already happened, but it ain't nothing that we can do, but act now. Let's act now.

Let's get busy. Let's go out there and let's dominate the line of scrimmage first. Let's make sure that we execute in the red zone. We're going to get down there. I'm going to throw it all over there, but let's make sure that we are populating the football on defense. Let's make sure that we are attacking the football on offense. I'm talking to y'all receivers because I'm going to let you get it. All right.

All right. Here we go. Team on three. One, two, three, team. Beautiful. Beautiful. Love that. Beautiful.

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