Bussin' With The Boys - The Miz On WWE Deal W/ Netflix & ESPN + Working W/ John Cena & The Rock + Wrestlepalooza | Bussin'

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

Recorded: September 15, 2025 Will Compton and Taylor Lewan are back on the bus and this week they’re joined by a true showman, WWE superstar and reality TV icon, The Miz. From main-eventing WrestleMania and taking on the likes of John Cena and Brock Lesnar to starring in his own reality show, The Miz has done it all, and now he’s hopping on the bus to talk life inside and outside the ring. Before the A-Lister joins, the Boys start off with some classic Bussin’ Bowl Banter and tease the most epic rivalry game in all of sports. Then it’s time for The Miz himself—one of the most decorated wrestlers in WWE history and arguably the greatest talker on the mic. The Boys kick off the interview with some Ro: Spicy Tier Talk. They then cover everything from Miz’s journey through MTV’s The Real World to WWE glory, how he keeps reinventing himself after two decades in the spotlight, and what it really takes to survive in the world’s most cutthroat entertainment business. Miz pulls no punches sharing stories about locker room politics, his most brutal matches, and the mindset that keeps him at the top. Whether you’re a diehard wrestling sicko or just here for some legendary storytelling, this one’s got something for everyone. Big Hugs & Tiny Kisses TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro2:09 Bussin Bowl Is Here15:51 RO Spicy Tier Talk29:39 Meeting His Wife Through WWE34:34 Learning From John Cena41:26 Changing The "Scripts" In WWE46:58 Getting Started In WWE52:00 Being With Theo Von On Real World + Reality Shows58:41 Raising Daughters1:13:52 Montessori Schooling 1:22:17 Signing With The WWE1:35:19 Watching Tape On Yourself1:38:57 Wrestlepalooza + Evolution Of The WWE 1:47:28 Miz Is A HUGE Browns Fan2:00:26 John Cena’s Character Arc2:04:32 WWE's Marquee Events2:07:31 Bud Light: What Would You Do Anything For?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You're not a big college fan. I will tell you the greatest and, I don't know, most highly coveted trophy game in all of college football is taking place this Saturday in Lincoln, Nebraska. My Michigan Wolverines are taking on a 3-0 Nebraska Cornhuskers football team, led by year three Matt Rule. It is sure to be an outstanding game. The competition is going to be incredible. As it stands right now, Michigan is 4-0 in their last 4.

against Nebraska. Do they turn it around? That's up to him. That's up to Matt Rule and his boys to figure it out. Big show. Big show this week. Big birthday weekend. Big birthday weekend. But again, birthday's off. We lose this game. I know my birthday happens on Friday. Yeah. But if we lose Saturday, we got to be like, all right, birthday didn't even happen on Friday. I'm 35 again. Right. We're just, that's a good way to go backwards in time. Yeah. You'll just restart everything. Yeah. And there was a bet that was suggested, suggested on Monday that bet shortly after the show was filmed was agreed upon

and not they'll have to find out in the locker room okay bleep that out bleat that out it'll be on the locker room bleep that out make sure you write that on your notes Mitch bleat that out but for those that watch the recap with the bets are thrown around and we'll talk about it we got

you know the show happened afterwards we figured something out you will find out what that is on the locker room this game is everything the minute the game ended yesterday between both teams because I was watching your guys the game a little bit. I was obviously watching the Huskers juggling the two kiddos. I had Rue, hey, we got to watch the Huskers.

Like this is, this is not negotiable. But the minute that game ended, I shot the text. I said it's go time. Did you shoot it to? Coach Rool. Okay. Because I was literally thinking, I was thinking my CTA brain. I'm like, I don't remember getting a text from Will.

Yeah. But he said, it's got to text. It's go time. And I paced around, I just paced around my house. You know how I pace. Right. I can't be on the phone. Like, I'm a pacer.

Right. I probably paced around the house for the next 15, 20 minutes. I watched the game, Michigan versus Central Michigan. It was a great game. If you're a Michigan fan to watch it, I'd be like,

that's what you want to see going into Big Ten play. Because that's what this is at the end of day. It's the start of Big Ten play. It kicks off. I am at a hummingbird thing, Expedition, Hummingbird Festival.

And my wife's like, hey, we're going for five minutes. The whole thing. I did a whole thing on Twitter about this where it's like, I inceptioned my wife, Thursday, Friday. Like, hey, they play at 11. I love to watch the game.

They play at 11. I love to watch the game. Woke up at 9. Get everything done. I get to the farmer's market at 10 or 915, 9.30-ish. We get everything going. And I get in the car and it's like 10, 15. And Taylin, my beautiful wife, I love her to death.

Seriously, she's the greatest thing's ever happened to me. However, looks me in the eyes and goes, there's this hummingbird thing going on. Hummingbird Festival right on Highway 100. I told the kids about it. They really want to go. First off, Taylin and your family watches a show, shame on you. Shame on you for telling our kids about it before you even came to me. Shame on you about that.

That's not okay. Knowing that this situation, this moment was going to come up. Because whether Taylor wants to. You're going to back me into a corner. Yeah, whether Taylorin wants to not remember or remember, I guarantee the words were said because I had a little note thing in my phone saying how many times you stayed to Taylorin and I checked it off six or seven times. So I was keeping because I know my brain, I can get a little bit, whoa, everyone's all right?

I start getting a little seat. I take a couple hits. I dove into a few, too many piles. So I know I can forget some things sometimes. So I want to make sure I took care of my house first. Make sure you mention it to hand. They play at 11. That started Thursday when I got home from ESPN.

Played 11 on Saturday. And so I'm at this hummingbird festival. And I am, and my kids are having a good time. God bless them. God bless my children. They had these little passport cards. They get stamps on arts and crafts everywhere.

I'm sure they had fun. When Rebel LeWan, My daughter is like, Mommy, we shouldn't stay very long because Michigan plays. That was big. That was big. I bribed my kids. I do. Well, yeah, sue me.

I went to five daughters. I said, I got us. I got us a six pack. You guys want to watch the game with daddy? These are available to you if you watch the game with daddy. And I did say if they're jazzed up. Oh, go blue. Daddy.

Go blue. We're all about it. We're going to beat them. Wentz going to people in the farmers. We're not going to be like, you know, Michigan beat Ohio last year. She didn't say, I never told her we don't say Ohio State because I think that's kind of lame as fuck. But she keeps going, we keep beating Ohio.

We can't lose to Ohio all these things. I go, I watch the game, it is what it is. You said you paste? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I took a nap right after. It felt good. It felt good to see that game. Yeah, you guys have, you guys as an organization is a different,

you guys are in a different spot culture-wise. What I like about this game is it's going to be so telling for both programs. You know, you got this. Two five-star quarterbacks going on it, both considered to be generational talents. I love what Matt Rule has done with that program. I love the turnaround. Yeah, you've played nobody's.

But at the end of the day, you've produced against nobody's the way you should produce, and that's the sign of a really good football team. Big fan of Rule. Who's, um... Dana Holgerson. Dana Holgerson, he's a special team. Go to Echler.

Mike Echler. Mike Echler. I said this already on the show, Cincinnati. I'm looking at me, I'm all, hey, I'm a big grade that kind of like showing off. I'm supporting the boys. And I go, but in a couple weeks, it's not going to be the same. And he looks me dead in the eyes and says, we don't fucking need your support.

And that's beautiful. I got Nebraska fans. Fuck you, Taylor, all the things. Good. Good. Nebraska is on the right track. I love it. I absolutely love it.

It's going to be a great game Saturday. I can't wait. So how did it go with the daughter story? I didn't pretty much. I mean, we get to the house. Like did you stay for a short time? I kind of went off the rails. No, yeah, you're right.

You're right. Yeah. We get there, like the second half is starting while I'm in the car still. And, uh, buddy. So did you take the donuts away? I told the kids, we're walking the car. They go, let's go, what's the mission game eat the donuts? They go, rumors are swirling that the donuts are no longer available.

I would have been working the politics. Like, this would have been a game of Survivor. Wife tells me that, hey, sweetheart, you know, hey, if we go to this hummingbird thing, donuts are gone. Donuts are gone. I would have bought 10, 15 extra minutes. There would have been an Uber and a black SUV would have pulled out about that sweetheart.

Yeah, you guys go to the hummingbird. you guys get go to the LB black too It's hilarious Dude we went And I'm like sitting there I'm like I'm obviously not present right now

And I but it's like I know that My wife knows that My kids are pretty aware of that That I don't want to be here And it's like if my kids know I pop on the YouTube TV On my phone

I just got it sitting there Funny enough Some guy next to me He's like it's 210 And I go Are you talking about the Michigan game He goes I can't get it up My phone

I have bad service I go buddy come over here We started watching the game together made a couple of friends. So it ended up working out, but still, Taylin, you can't operate like that. You got to have good situational football. That's one, hey, this is shit that gets you beat.

Right. And I think that Taylor would argue that is good situational football. Because that's the shit that got her to a hummingbird festival. Right, but you guys are not aligned. You're not on the same team. Right. Right. Right.

And I, yeah, it's tough for me to say that Talon cares about Michigan as much as I care about Michigan. It's tough. But either way, she's a team key. She's Canadian. She doesn't understand American college sports. She doesn't understand. The team keys going to the weekend was 11 a.m.

Right. Let me tell you where Talon's fucked up. After the game, I'm talking to Taylor, after my nap, I'm talking to Talon and I'm telling her how like, how big of a game this is for you. And if it doesn't go the way for you, it might affect our relationship in a way that I don't know if we can come back from.

And then goes, that's, what are you talking about? Like it's, isn't it a bit with Willa Nebraska? Honey, we all thought it was for the last four years. we all thought it was but sweetheart I had it with the sweetheart too sweeter I really think at this point

he believes the words that come out of his mouth consistent and I'm not that no I think Nebraska's a good ball club this year I'm saying like the three and nine year

the seven like last year the whole the whole thing works where it's like will is truly believing all this and I think if it doesn't go his way like Bustin might be in trouble no because if you if you trust my words

then I've always said nothing is going to happen to our relationship Like, yeah, it's going to suck. Last time Michigan and Nebraska play, Michigan won 45 to 7. And shortly after that, you told me that you want Michigan to fail.

Because the way you would just pat me on the head, like, I can't help the way I react to the things that you might do. But I'm just saying, like, the reason I'm so juke is I care, I care about the program. It's not just this one game. Like, there's no taking a nap on any week after Nebraska plays because I'm thinking about the next week, the next week, the next week. If we get this game, it's out there for us.

It's out there force to run the table. If we take a lump in this game, we're going to have to bounce back, but it's like, what team do we have? Is it going to have, are we going to get beat by Michigan? It's going to be Michigan, USC, and Penn State. Then you're not in the playoffs if you lose three games. Like I still see it's going on.

No, we're taking care of Iowa. Buddy. That's where my confidence. My confidence goes up to that point, but now I'm at the spot of like the real healthy, optimistic nerves of like, is this the era? is this it?

We look good. I know we've played some slap dicks, but this is, you know, you're a little, I'm nervous for the game in general. Yeah, of course I want to beat you.

But it's not, if this isn't like, if we get beat, I'm just going to be sad and I'm going to be disappointed. And I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to handle myself a lot better

because I could be like a caged animal that, you know, might loses himself and I'm going to have to call therapists right after the game if we do lose the game. Right. Can I just tell you how the last couple hours

have gone this Monday? I'm worried about your mental of Michigan. Michigan wins. That's okay. Again, that's... But that's a friend. If we're coaching ball inside of Will's body, that's outside noise. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but I'm saying the outside action. I don't know what's going inside your body, but the outside action is like, is Will okay right now and it's Monday? Oh yeah, I'm, buddy, I'm excited. I'm ready to go, but this is, this is our first big test.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Like this is me, this is me any big test we have. And if I'm thinking, like, hey, we can win this game. This is, this is Will, this is Will, this is Will, this is Will, see 24-7 with the Huskers. I love it. This game does mean more, but it's not, you know, listen, we're going to be fine. Tell them about our beautiful guests we have today, Will. The Miz.

Just a specimen of a human being. Good looking cat. Hands a boy. Then he gets here in a few minutes. Oh, Ms. is here. Wow. Oh, the Miz is here. The Miz is here.

Here. He's in the building. He is in the building. He's ready to come on the bus when you boys are ready. Here's all I hear. Put this, run this through the chain. If Ms. can talk some ball, he can come on right now and we can talk some ball. Can Ms. hear me right now?

He can. Mr. Miz? Mr. Miz, are you there? Taylor, hey. Hold on, hold on. JP. Ask him if he knows ball. It's the Ms.

Hey. Does he love ball? I'm not doing the role play thing with you again because I see the row spicy tear talk on here and I remember the back and forth that you and Will had. Tough. I just... Tough and beautiful. What are you saying?

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Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.

I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Hey, I'm Joe Dono. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, help on the internet. Help! Somebody! Please! But there's so much more to me than me. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian.

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Ms. is entering the building. You got to shoot them. Of course, I went on the other side and I was so angry. I was like, wait a second. This is an office. Nice to meet you. I don't want to be in an office. I want to be in a bus.

I thought it was a bus. You look, you look sharp. Yeah, you look fantastic. I want to dress up for you guys. Oh, yeah, yeah. I got to hit the deliverables. Give it up. No doubt about it.

Where's moving camera? So is this the original? Yeah. Really? And you brought it. So I was telling your guys over on the other side. I was like, I was expecting like in the middle of like a field, just a bus. And literally you walk on the bus and that's what I was expecting.

I was literally expecting to walk on. I was not expecting like it was a huge. Got a warehouse. We got some stuff going on. It's big. You got a ton of stuff going on. But it didn't start like this. It started in the.

back of a gravel parking lot. It started how you expected. How you expected it, that's the origin story. I wanted. Yeah. That's what I wanted my experience. Going on a generator, we would have had to cut the AC because it makes too much noise and we would have been sweating.

You would have been really sweating in that 30s. Yeah. Yeah. I would have done it though. I would have been. Because you're a grinder. Yeah. I'm a man of the grind.

Let's go. You're a man of the grind. Absolutely. So what we just did right now just recently was read, are we rolling right now? We did this recently. We read an ad for Rose Sparks. And we usually do like a spicy little tear talk that goes with it. It's the category today?

Celebrity crushes. Celebrity crushes. So, okay, this, I think this is a good, this is a good ice breaking situation for the Miz himself. Okay, can you seem like a ladies man. You seem like a guy that can handle his business between the sheets. I do have a wife.

She's beautiful. And I'm sure before. I love her to do. Yeah, yeah, and your wife handles she's beautiful and amazing as well. Celebrity crushes though. When I was a kid? When you were a kid.

Now, the way tier talk works is, you can have an honorable mention if you want. If you'd like, there's more than three. Then we're gonna go to tier three. And we're going to say, this is my third place person. Tier two and then finally your tier one will be it. Okay, I have my tier one. Right.

And out of respect for you and you're getting comfortable on the bus, I'm going to have Will Compton go first. Oh, oh. Yeah. I'll have Will Compton go first. Okay. Because I've got two in my head, but I need, I got three. Actually, I'm good to go.

How many do I need? You need three. You need three. If you have more, you can just start throwing out honorable mentions. Right. Right. Because this might turn into like, oh, I'm good. Yeah.

Oh yeah. It is gonna turn into that because it's hard for me to think about all my celebrity crushes throughout life. I do have some that jump out at me. I know I'll just say this for my tier three. When I was a young little boy, I loved poison ivy in Batman. Poison, I had the poster. I might have kissed the poster a couple times.

I was young. It's okay. Yeah, I was that kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My tier two, I'm gonna say Topanga from Boy Meets World. Massive, massive crush for your boy. And my tier one, listen, this is Margo Robbie. This is the top spot, Margo, Margot Robbie, Wolf of Wall Street, like,

Wait, how old are you? I was older. That's like five years ago. Yeah, this is one where even with my wife, he gets a lot of- Marl's married, has kids. Yeah, yeah. And I have a wife, she knows I love Margot Robbie. Okay.

We might watch the Hall Pass movie, and I might be like, hey, Margot Robbie. And she might say somebody? Uh, no. What would be hers? Like, what would be like, hey, you would? She had, no, no, but that's where I'd have to shut it down. Okay. I heard Charles say a lot of things about the guy who hosted the Netflix show Battle Camp.

Have you heard that? I don't know if that's on Netflix. That's on Netflix. Yeah, I didn't get reviewed for season two. Big show. So good, though. Who is the Host of Battle Camp? Who is the Poison Ivy and then.

Yeah, that's a good. There he is. There he is. And I got to give an honorable mention to Patty mayonnaise from Doug. Got to hear an honorable mention of Patty mayonnaise from Doug. My favorite cartoon growing up. up as a kid. Yes, sir. Skeeting. Oh, my God. Yeah. Doug. Doug. Doug. Yeah. Da da da da da da. Dad. Dad. Paddy had that it's not

da da. It's Doug. It's Doug. They're saying Doug in the song. They got to. Is it Doug? Doug. Doug. Doug. I thought it was duh, da. Maybe it's worth of Google. I feel like it was like, I don't know, man. I, uh, the miss skater. Yeah. Skeeter. Yeah. Skeeter. Oh, yeah. Mr. Ms. Please keep that microphone closer to your face. just for everyone who's listening. My voice projects. It does. It does.

Okay. Sometimes I pop. That's okay. That's why he's got a big fluff on top of his microphone because he's a popper as well. My tier three. And I'm having a hard time kind of like putting these everywhere. But Cameron Diaz, Charlie's Angels, growing up. Oh, I forgot Pamela Anderson.

Yeah, Pamela Anderson is. And we'll give her the honor and mention that can be for all of us unless you disagree. Well, I mean. I didn't go yet. Okay, yeah, you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, yeah. Oh, also, dude, I'm not even doing my own show. So after tier talk, we go around the room and we give one word to describe how we feel about the individual's tier talk.

So for Will, I'll say hyphenated spot on. Oh, who, who, who, you like old poison ivy. Yeah. Mitchie, go ahead. Good. Hyphenated roast sparks. I don't know what I'm saying. Welcome to the show, man.

Uh, yeah. That's not, that's two words. Solid. Just solid. Okay. Mr. Miss. Fire.

Oh. There we go. Very nice. Uh, so Cameron Diaz is my tier three. Um, my tier two is going to go to, it's going to have to go to Dupanga. It's going to go to Hapanga. It's world. I think every kid, first off, the show, the lessons it teaches you.

Incredible. Mr. Feeney on the other side of the fence. But any time, Topanga walked into that screen. And that same hall. way that with all the locker rooms or they're in the cafe it's like that's our girl that's our girl that we grew up with hell do you are you are you going to vote for her on dancing with the stars oh i've kind of fallen off the depengate of sense wow i'm talking i'm really going back in my i understand but this is your childhood she's going to have dance stars she needs your vote yeah okay so

maybe i will okay i think it's a good point i need a support shocked you guys aren't on dancing with the stars yet i'm shocked too huh i mean would you do it absolutely i would yeah yeah i'd try and Yeah, I'd give my best shot. Yeah, I don't know if I moved very well, but I would love... Danny Amadola did a great job last year. Yeah, he was with my bro. Yeah, you get some really good training, I feel like. He's a unique white boy, though.

He's a unique white boy. My tier one, I forgot who it is. Oh, no, I didn't. My tier one is Milakunes from that 70s show. Oh, wow. I loved Milakunes. I think, I mean, to this day, I think she's beautiful. She's incredible.

I just can't say enough about her. fan. Okay. Big fan. And that is my tier talk. Love it. Solid. Love. Yeah. Hyphenated and nailed it. Can I give one more? Oh yeah. Rocket. Yeah. Yeah. One more honorable mention that has to go, uh, Megan Fox and Transformers. Oh, buddy. Oh, buddy. That is my tear talk. There's this gal too in the music video. I like the way you move. That music video, there's a gal.

She's a dark skin that I was into. Who is the girl? She's super famous model. She was in the, uh, everybody get out to. Emily, right. Yeah, okay, Mitch. I knew he'd fall for that one. Yeah, that one.

That moved it around too. That moved it around. Well, that was the first time that you're like, wait, this is a music video? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is not PG. This is not be allowed. at all.

This is not rated R. Right. This is a little much. Yeah. I remember also the first time the Wapit music video came out. And I saw it in the locker room at the Titans with Russ Grimm, who was our coach, he's like 65 years old, a Hall fame guy. And watching that with all the guys, it was like, those ladies are too much for me.

I would not be able to handle that in the bedroom. But it was an aggressive deal. That was her. That was an aggressive deal. Yeah, that was heard. Yeah. Do I get to go now? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And also shout out to show. And making good. Shout out making good as well. Making good. I go ahead, miss. All right. So, all right, my tear talk. All right, here we go.

So do we do honorable mentions first or last? You do it now. You know, I'll do third place. Okay. Third place, I might be a little older than you guys. And I think I am. So I'm going to go with, say, by the bell, Kelly Kapowski. Graypool.

Tiffany, Amber Thieson. Great Pole. And since we're going with cartoons, I mean, you went panty banees. I mean, if you want to go with a cartoon, you go with Jessica Rabbit. Likes Curves. Do you not even know who you're,

I feel like I... Tell me the show. It's not a show. It's a movie. Who framed Roger Rabbit? And a red dress. Look. Cocktail dress.

Big bazongas, big, great pool. I got to give it to you. I mean, I can't believe you didn't even know who that. Have you been seen who framed Roger Rabbit? I might be in a different. I don't know if I have. I don't think I have.

Wow. Yeah. How old are you? I'm 40, turning. 45. Oh, so you and Will the same age. No. I'm turning 36. He's turning 46 on September Happy birthday by the way. Thank you. Thank you. Day before my daughter. Okay. And number one is Pamela Anderson. When I was a kid growing up, there was nothing bigger than Baywatch. Nothing bigger than Pamela Anderson. Honorable mentions. I had posters of Shania Twain. A huge poster of Shania Twain. And for some reason,

Victoria Silverstone, I think I just found that at the local Spencer's. And I was just like, this is a hot chick. Let's just put her up there. Can we get a picture of it? I don't even know who that is. Victoria Silverson. Is that what it was? Erica Liddiak was the first playboy I ever saw.

Nice. Dude, there was a place down 8th Avenue. I don't know how familiar you are with Nashville, but they have this place called Cool Stuff Weird Things. And I walked in there with my wife and I first met, and they had like five or six, like shelves full of like old Playboy vintage magazines. And I bought like a bunch of them for like 20 bucks.

And it's like, different world back then. and the 70s. Yeah. Different world back then. Well, in his decade, it's like, you know, I know you guys on the show. We died. Thanks. Back in his day.

Yeah. I'm just going to say, what was it like in the magazine era? Oh, my God. I mean, it was, yeah. I mean, I remember a time when there wasn't an internet. Yeah. Do you remember a time when there's no internet? Like, I remember.

I remember when it came out. Like, what was the year that the internet came out? 2006 or, sorry, 1996 or seven was like on the internet. Around then I'm like eight years old. seven, eight years old. So I'm going into high school. Yeah. So like I remember the AOL and I remember like the dial up version where it takes an hour

just to do anything. Like I remember those days. It's crazy. Then you make a mistake in a conversation. You sign out, re-sign in. Hey, I got hacked. Yeah. Basically.

Just change your name to a bunch of lyrics or something. Simple times back then too, man. Like this right here standing by that and having the phoma of knowing all your friends are online as well. You'd go outside and play. Yeah. That's what we did. Like we played all day.

instead of being online all day. Yeah. But also we played video games, right? Nintendo. 64 guy? No, I was original Nintendo. OG Nintendo guy. OG Nintendo guy, Sega Genesis.

Oh my God. That was the one for me. Like, I liked it better than Super Nintendo. Really? You're saying you like the Sega more, right? I like Sega way more. I like Sonic the Hedgehog. I'm a big fan of it.

Did you play Madden on Sega? Where you had to like double tap the buttons when you sprint through the 40s? I was more of like a moral combat guy. Nice. So like I liked the Sega Genesis version because there was blood and then the Super Nintendo didn't have blood.

So I like the Sega Genesis. Then you'd be crushed when mom would tell you we got to go take it back to Best Buy. What do you mean? Like take it back to the video game store. Oh my God. Oh yeah. That's my fault.

Blockbuster. Yeah. Back in the day, yeah. But I mean, my parents would buy me the stuff usually. Nice. All right. Congrats. Yeah.

Congrats. I had my way. I had my way. I needed to rent stuff. All right. Yeah. I mean, I remember Needs. E-O-Gio, you probably don't remember that.

TurboGraphics 16. No. Like, these are like very, uh, they weren't like as popular as the Nintendo's or the Sega Genesis, but man, they were the best. 64 to this day is my favorite game console of all time. And what's the game that you would go to? The game for me is, uh, Super Smash Brothers. Oh, really?

Huge Super Smash guy. I loved to play. Like, I remember I was a big, big, link Kirby guy. And then I got to college and there was this kid named Jack Greenlee who, like, knew how to play with all the characters really well. And I learned this character, Ness. And I kind of kind of became on. I love

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I don't know if we were running during it. Comes on right away. We're talking celebrity crushes, Dick Bills, Playboy magazines. And good on you for never wavering, right? You get on, hey, you look like a handsome guy. You must have crush it. Boom, I'm married. I'm like, we all are two.

We're just saying, but you've handled yourself. in a way that's like you're fitting right in right away. Because my wife is hotter than all of them. Nice one. I'll take my wife over any woman, any day, all day, every day. And I don't know if I know this correctly, but you met your wife while hosting a TV show? WWE. So, WWE had a show called The Diva Search where we'd find the next WWE women superstar.

And my wife was a contestant. I was the host. And our first interaction was on TV. And you can literally watch. speak English. She spoke French. Yeah. So she spoke zero. So imagine this woman coming from Montreal spoke zero English and she's trying out to be a WWE superstar. Yeah. Like how crazy is that? And then she goes in there and she's like, I am going to give 110. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I don't want this cookie cutter answer. Give me a real answer. I want the real. That's actually it right there.

And she was like, I don't speak English. So I was like speaking French. And then she would give us these answers in French and like you didn't you didn't know what she was saying but you knew what she was saying right felt it but there was something there there was always been something there so how how does that process like you're filming the show obviously there's days and days of shooting you're the host so you have to stay focused but there's this beautiful woman over there in the corner that's speaking French in a tongue you don't understand but you're looking over like hey this could be something he'd love to read the caption yeah yeah yeah like it could be something I mean I was looking at her all like this girl's out of my league I don't think I don't think I could

get a woman like this. Yeah. I'll never forget like our first date was, she got signed to W. She didn't win the Diva search. She got signed to WWE. She was down in developmental. She was coming up to the main roster where I was.

And so I invited her. I said, hey, we're all going out after the show because that's what we do. We go out, find a place to eat that's open at 11 o'clock. That's when our show ends. And so she went, we went to this pizza place. She didn't sit at my table. She stood at another table, which I thought was very intriguing. I was like, okay.

All right, all right, let's play. So then after the place let out, everyone left and we stayed in the parking lot and talked. And we just talked. And by the way, it was broken English. But I still understood what she was saying. We had great conversation. And so we started driving. Like, we were like, it's getting late.

We need to go back to the hotel. And so we started driving. And I'm like, pull over, pull over. And there was this like, I don't know what you want to call it, like an adult store. Yeah. And I was like, I don't want to be in the friend zone. I want to make sure this girl knows like, I'm a catch. Like I'm I'm here to play, you know?

Yeah. So we go into this place and it was not, it was like in Wichita, Kansas, you know? And it's not like one of those super megastores. Not the classiest place you'd want to take. Yeah, the Midwestern adult store. Yeah. I mean, it's a little rough. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You walk in. There's like, gag, they're like, oh my God. And I was like, she was just like, I'm like, uh, you into that or that? What about that? What about that? Oh, shit. How's that? Well, yeah.

Like, I'm trying to, I'm trying to, you want to play chess? you want to play checkers let's go yeah yeah yeah yeah so then we go outside we go outside and we ended up talking for like i would say like until our plane until we like until the the morning came and we went straight to the plane and i remember i got off my flight and went straight to a barns noble and got like because we didn't have do lingo back then i got like a book that tried to teach me how to speak french because i was like i got to learn french i mean if i can only get her i remember telling myself but i only get a girl like this i'd be truly happy and then there i am No way.

Yeah, man. Huh? Did you learn some French? I'm trying. Yeah. I'm still trying. I mean, I like, I'm on day 1,000 on DuLingo and I, it is not. I mean, I can read it.

I can read some of the stuff, but it's hard to talk about it. And the reason I wanted to start really, where I really started being like, I need to speak French is when I got daughters. And I was like, wait a second. They're not going to hear us speak French in the household. So they're not going to pick up French because my wife only speaks French with her mom. And she speaks English now. So I was like, man, I need to speak French.

start picking it up so my daughters pick up French. It's like it's amazing what you'll do like you're like, ah, my wife, I'll learn a bit of a wee, we, we come with Dalai Voo, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll learn that stuff. But then for the kids, it's like, all right, I got to, I got to start hammering down. So I'm trying, but it's very difficult. Are the kids doing better than you are?

No. I mean, they know they're, I mean, but also they're five and seven, right? So they, they're, they know they're one. They know they can count to 20. they can have a couple lines here and there, but they're not fluent. Yeah. Like I'd want them to be.

Right, right. I feel like they're going to pick it. Like I have two daughters as well, eight and five. And my oldest is learning Mandarin. My youngest is, what? Yeah. Where?

She takes a class like with a teacher via Zoom essentially, like twice a week. And she's like learning about it. She's obsessed with like China. Like she wanted to. I guess China. Chinese. Yeah. Yeah, the Chinese.

Yeah, she's obsessed with it. It started with dragons. It started how to train your dragon. And then she figured out that dragons are big in the Chinese culture. So she'd be obsessed with the Chinese culture. And then she's like, I want to learn Mandarin. We're like, all right, dude. You know who speaks Mandarin?

Who? John Sina. No. I think I didn't know that actually. That's right. I was actually just telling a story about this. People were like, what's one thing that you remember, that you always remember about John Sina? And I remember us being on a European tour.

And he had flashcards and like a child in elementary school. Yeah. And on one side was Mandarin. On the other side was the English version. So he was practicing his Mandarin on the European tour. And I was like, what are you doing? He's like, I wanted to learn Mandarin. And so WWA has this program where if you want to learn a language, they'll pay for it all.

So he's like, I took him up on the offer. I thought it'd be great to learn Mandarin. And so he knows it. And so I'll never forget watching Train Rec and him speaking Mandarin. I was like, that's improv right there because I know he knows Mandarin. And it's like that he's improvving right there. Doug, that is so awesome. Yeah.

He seems well put together, dude. He does. He does. I learned a lot from him. Yeah? Oh, my God. When you're coming up through the ranks of the WWE, is that the guy you look at? You're like, that's the kind of career I want to have?

Yeah. Of course. When I was coming up, he was the top guy. He was in like WWE champion. And I got to be on live events, live events meaning non-televised shows that we have. And we have tons of those, right? And or we did. And so I got the opportunity to actually work in a ring with him.

And I don't know about you guys in football. But when you work with a person that is above and beyond different level than you are, especially for an up-and-comer, like I imagine rookies and NFL come in there and they think they know everything. They're all like, yeah, I can block. I can do everything, you know. And then you're like, dude, you don't have any idea what you're doing. And then you take that guy aside and you show him, you see the light bulb go off and you're

like, oh, wow. And the guy becomes a sponge. That's what I felt like I was to John Cena. I got in the ring with him and he was like, listen. And I'm like, I'm listening to the audience. I hear them chanting, you suck. He's like, you're not listening. You're not listening to him.

You're not hearing them. And so he taught me how to actually hear an audience and what to do with that audience. And that's one of the biggest things that I've learned from John Cena is how to listen to an audience, hear an audience and know what to do with that audience. Is there like, is there an example that you can call to that you could practically like show us or tell us like the audience is doing something? You might have thought one thing. or maybe you weren't hearing it at all. And it's like, oh, when the audience is doing this, what are the audience is doing nothing?

What if the, you, you come out and the audience is tired. They've been watching three hours of wrestling. They're tired. They just had a huge, a huge segment where the rock comes out. Stone Cold Steve Austin comes out. And they're just, they're just exhausted. And now you have to come out. And you're in a match that's a cold match,

that no one, like, it's literally like, you're in a feud with a guy that literally just happened today. And it's like, we're just going to have this match. We have to get the crowd up and at them. So how do you get that crowd up and at him? You have to hear them. You have to listen to them. Okay.

When I first walk out into the arena, I'm listening. I'm hearing a crowd. Where are they at? Should they be higher? Should they be lower? Do I need them? Where do I need them to be? So then when I get in the ring, I start listening and just hearing who they're, who they're

cheering for, what they're doing? And then, yeah, it's literally like listening and being like, okay, what did this, does this crowd need? Does they need to pick me up? Do they need to slow it down? It's all these type of situations. But what's the, like, your roll-a-dex of, like, pick-me-ups? If you hear, like, a dead crowd or something, you're hearing them, and you're coming out.

Sometimes it's like, an easy one is just a baby face hits the ring and you just blow them up and just start beating the holy hell out of them. And it's like, oh, whoa. And you just, you do big stuff. Like, you know, you throw them on a table. Boom. You throw them into the barricade. Boom. Throw them into the stairs.

Boom. Oh, my. Oh, oh, oh. What is going on? And it's like, oh, this guy is beating this guy's up. I want this guy. And then they'll start cheering. They'll be like, come on, come on, man, you got this.

Yeah, yeah. You know? And then if the crowd's high, is it like a, is like more of an anticipation. Oh, I'm riding the way. I'm riding the way. Make them one a little more. So say if the crowd is like really into the good guy and I'm the bad guy and they're, I think they're at the top.

I think they're at the top. I'm going to shut that baby face down because I'm going to get them down. And then I'm going to build them back up and build them back up and make them want to see a baby face, as we call comeback. I want, they want to see like, if I'm, if they're at their highest, they're like, He does a flip to the outside. Boom, nails me. The crowd is going, oh my God, this is awesome.

This throws me back in. I cut him off. I beat him up, boo. Boo. And now maybe I just start taunting the crowd. Yeah, that's your hero. That's who you like. That's who you like.

And now you'll start hearing the crowd. Yeah, that is who I like. Leave him alone, man. Leave me alone. And then they'll start doing a slow chant. And it's like, okay, they're starting to come. Now I've got to give them a little more because the crowd is like, if the crowd starts cheering for,

the guy, you got to give him something. Got to give him something. So it's like, yeah, you have him block my punch. Boom. Boom. Boom. Oh, oh. Oh, shut him down again. Until they're ready for the big triumphant comeback of a good guy, baby face. So that's kind of like... God damn. It is a science out here. I'm glad I'm allowed to talk about this because it's like, we have a show on Netflix called Unreal where we just

unleashed everything. And we're like, hey, we have writers that help us write everything. Like, and I love the show on Netflix, the Unreal because It really shows people exactly what we do. People are just like, oh, this is easy. I could do that. Or it's all choreograph. And then you get them in.

Yeah, or choreograph or whatever. And then it's like you get them in the ring and they're like, whoa, this is a lot different than I thought it was going to be. Yeah. Like we're always talking in there. We're always trying to figure things out. It's, you know, it's, I love it because it's, it's an art form that it's unlike anything else. And I always thought that WWE has prepared me for everything in entertainment. Right?

Like, you need me to. host a show, I can do it. Why? Because I've been literally in a live crowd, one take. You don't get any other takes. We're just live. We don't have, we don't have teleprompters. We don't have guys holding a sign to give us our, we have our whole promo and everything in our minds, in our heads. And by the way, sometimes it changes. Sometimes you go out into an audience and they're just not feeling that promo and you need to figure out how to wake them up. Right. You know, like things aren't going according to plan. Yeah. And by the way, sometimes the bad guy can turn good guy. You might be in bizarre world where you go to like Europe and I mean in Europe, I'm usually

the bad guy. I walk out and they're cheering me and they're singing my song and I'm like, well, this is interesting. Now we could either, I can make them hate me or we can go with this. And usually it's like, I look at the guy across from me and I'm like, does this guy, is this guy can he get it? Right. Are you guys? Yeah, we got to kind of adjust. We got to align. Yeah, what's the chemistry between the two of you? Yeah, exactly. And so then you look at each other and you're like, all right, let's do it. And you can, you could feel the energy and you can feel it like, and it's fun. That's what makes it fun. It's like, it's improv. When you, when you walk into a ring and you think they're going to hate you, but they end up loving you and you look at the guy,

does that change the outcome of what's going to happen for you guys? We always want to make sure that our stories are told, right? We have a set plan because we have PLEs, you know, where we are leading to a certain type of match. But there have been times where things have changed. You never know what's going to happen with a live audience and a live show. Things change like that. You know, I mean, there were, there were times where I was going to be a WWE champion. And then I was told like hour before,

yep, it's not going to happen. No shit. Yeah. And why is that? Certain things happen. Give us some inside ball on that. Certain things happen, right? So I remember there was like,

I think CM Punk left the show. And he took the title with him. So they made up, I guess a paper champion, I guess, or whatever. Like they brought a championship and said, hey, if he's leaving the show, he's gone. He put the title in a refrigerator. Like, that was the big meme.

So they're going to have a tournament. And I think I went up against Ray Mysterio, and I was going to beat Ray Mysterio, then I was going to beat John Sina, and I was going to be a champion. And then they switched it because usually we like Babyface versus heel, right? Bad guy versus good guy.

But then, in this certain instance, And especially back then, it would have been babyface versus baby face, Ray versus Sina. And they were like, ah, you need a bad guy versus a good guy. So I was the bad guy. But then it was like, well, it's two huge monumental baby faces that are Ray Mysterio and John Sina let them go at it. And I think Ray ended up winning that title. But yeah, there was a moment there where I was going to be, I would have been a double

champion there. So if you go, it's an hour before the show starts, you're, it's obviously very exciting whether it's written or not that you're going to be the face of whatever this franchise and then somebody has to walk into a suit walks into a room and says actually we've changed the script this is what's now happening how are you handling that internally um if if someone told me you're the guy and then they told me you're not the guy right i'm more of a person that i was like all right i'll make them believe i'm the guy yeah you give me i'm the type of person that if you give me 10 seconds on a television show i am going to make sure that you remember those 10 seconds no matter

what is dealt to me. I will make sure it's remembered. You can give me any type of line and I will make sure. Or I'll do my best to do it. Sometimes I fail. Sometimes I succeed. Right. You know,

so it's kind of like that. Do you see a lot of examples of guys who don't handle the politics of it when something like that happens, they don't handle it well? Yeah. I mean, it happens. I mean, they're usually whenever,

I mean, it happens all the time where you believe your story should go a certain way. It's in your head. But the big, you know, the execs are looking at it and going, that's not what we want. That's not where we're going with this. Like I'm always pitching ideas. Always. Even right now, I'm in year 20 and I'm always pitching ideas, always trying to elevate myself and elevate the company as a whole. And sometimes I'm in their, their stories and sometimes I'm not. And it's my job to make sure that they never forget me. Never forget that, hey, who I

am and where I am and what I'm going to do for this company. Yeah. Yeah, that stuff's crazy. I was, well, the Vince McMahon one on Netflix where you see the kind of unfoldings of like Hall Cogan and then you see the, the, the Brett Hart stuff go down. It's just like, man, it is, it's a different world on the inside of the WW. I wish I, so we talk about this all the time in the show. Like Will grew up watching WWE a lot.

And it's like, I think a massive piece that I missed in my childhood. Because I didn't, I never get to like invest in. I hear Will get out of guys like George Kittle. And they start just like bro. out over it. I'm over here sitting on the sidelines in the dark room being like, I wish I knew what they were talking about. You didn't grow up in the Midwest around those adult stores. It was like you had the adult stores. You had NASCAR. You had WWW. Bill Goldberg trying to stay undefeated. WCW. WWF at the time then it transitions. But yeah, we we loved it growing up. We interrupt this

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20 years ago when you're getting into this game, what is that process like for you? Like the going through the range, you're talking about the live events, all of you guys even know this? The real world? It's in my notes. It's in your notes, but do you know the real world? Like, did you grow up watching it at all? Real world road rules. Yeah.

I would watch those. I knew of real world, but it wasn't like glued to it. Like a lot of, you got the niche audience that like loves all the reality TV stuff. So back in the day and like, I would say the late 90s, early 2000s, real world was the show. MTV was the network. Believe it or not. Yeah. It was the network.

And it was TRL. It was real world. It was road rules. It was the challenge. It was where every teen and, um, you know, 20 something wanted to be. It's where it's what you, you watched. And I got the opportunity.

I remember I was in college. I was at Miami of Ohio at a Theta Kai fraternity, my fraternity. And I was watching the show and they said, do you want to try out for the real world? It was like real world, New Orleans, season nine. And I said, hell yeah, I want to try out for that show. So I tried out. And I went through a bunch of auditions. I'm talking.

I had a 50 page application asking everything, anything about my life. Back then, we didn't have. have cell phones. So they would call you and you'd put on a speaker phone and you'd have a camera with a VHS like tape in it and you'd press record and you'd talk to that camera while they're asking you questions and you'd send that VHS tape back to them and then they would watch it. Yeah, that that's that like that was how we did it. Yeah. That's how we did it back in my day. You know, so so then I went through I would say like five interviews and got on to their casting special, which was the first time ever.

They brought Real World and Road Rules. 28 people, only 13 were going to make it. Seven on Real World, six on Road Rules. You didn't know which one you were going to be on if you made it at all. So by the end of the three days, I made it onto the show. And I did the Real World created a character called the Miz, WWE superstar, because I thought I was, at least. I didn't had any plans of being a wrestler at all. I didn't think I could.

I was six foot nothing, 200, nothing pounds. Like I wasn't like this tremendous athlete I could play, but I wasn't like this above and beyond. There's just no way. Like I couldn't be the Hulk Hogan or the ultimate war or the rock. Yeah. Stone Cold Steve Austin. That just there's no way, right? So I just created a character.

I thought it would be funny. And once I created the character, it kind of took off. And I was like, man, when I remember leaving the show, like when it was done, it was like six months of filming. Got paid really nothing. It would have done it for free anyway just because of the. experience, went back home to Cleveland, and I remember staring at myself in the mirror and going, what am I going to do for the rest of my life? Like, am I going to go back to Miami, Ohio, and have business classes that I can't stand, that I'm basically getting D's and failing out? Or am I going to

pursue something that I truly am passionate about? Because where I'm from, and I don't know, maybe Midwest, like, where I'm from, it's like you go to high school. After high school, you go to college. After college, you go back to where you're from and you get a job. And that's what you do. You get a family and that's what you do for the rest of your life. And that is your life. That's set out for you. Yep. And so that was my trajectory. But going on the real world made me realize maybe I don't have to do that.

Maybe I could do something different. Maybe I can do what I want to do. Yeah. Maybe I don't have to be a PE coach. Yeah. So I said, you know what? I'm going to find a wrestling school. And I'm going to go and train to be a professional wrestler.

And everyone laughed at me. My dad was like, you are not doing that. You're going to college. You're going back to college. You're staying in Cleveland. And I'm like, no, I'm going to move. So I got on a challenge. right after the real world.

Once I got on the challenge, I won that challenge and made $50,000. I used that $50,000 to move the Los Angeles, got a wrestling school that I paid $5,000, I believe, for. I went into improv classes at groundlings and improv Olympics. I got an acting coach. And so I was trying to find all the tools that would get me to where I wanted to be with WWE, right?

And also I tried to find a nutritionist. I was going to Gold's Gym Venice because I thought that's what the big boys play, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? So I didn't get big. I mean, I got fat because I was just trying to eat as much as possible to get, because I was 200 pounds.

I needed to be, I thought like you had to be 260 pure solid muscle. Right. How do you get like back then you didn't have all this information about, you got to get your macros in and you got to, we didn't have macros back then, you know? You just ate like burritos or whatever just to get it big. And if you're at Gold Jim's Venice Beach,

you also have a syringe in your hand. You're like, hey, we're going to figure out the best possible. That's one thing I never got into though. So I was just like I just, these guys must be, I thought it was like, and this is dummy me, right? I thought they were just eating more. Yeah. You know?

These guys are so vascular. And I also have like 280 of just pure muscle. Yeah. Gotta be the protein. That's all it is. That's all it is. It's got to be. So, okay, so you go, you move there.

He was on with Theo. Yeah. What was, he know, like he really doesn't talk about. He doesn't, does he? He doesn't talk about the real world. So, Theo's trajectory of life is incredible to see. I remember his first stand-up. Really?

So his, I remember when we were on a bus and we were on Battle of Sexes Part 2, I think, or Battle of Seasons Part 2, something like that. It was one of those ones where we were in New Mexico and we were going to a club and we had this bus and we had a microphone and people were doing karaoke. And I remember Theo telling us like that year, he's like, yeah, I'm starting up comedy. And we were all like comedy, like stand up comedy. Good for you. That's great.

And we were like, do your standup. Do your stand up. Come on. Theo. And no one thought he would actually get up and do it. But he got up, got on the microphone in our bus as we're going to a club and did his standup. And I remember it like, it was one of those ones. Do you guys might not remember this?

Do you remember the collect calls? Yeah. The commercials for collect calls. And he would talk about how dirty the collect calls were. It's like dialed down the city. or yeah. And he would do all these like things that were like about the collect calls and the commercials that were going in.

And I can't remember all the things, but it was a dirty joke on the collect calls. And everyone was a right. Everyone was dying laughing because he wasn't like the O'C. I mean, there were there were hints of it, right? But the Theo you see now is just like his mind is just, whoa, it's out there. And the way he's a special breed. Exactly. But you didn't see.

see that's that you knew it was funny but it developed right and he trained himself into that you know what I mean I mean I feel like comedy football any type of thing that you want to be successful at you have to train your brain into it and you just don't grow up I mean you can be funny yeah stand-ups a whole different art it's a whole different ball game yeah yeah and he's he's done amazing with it and I can't tell you a better person to do it because Theo not only was he hilarious, but he was one of the first people I met because he was, remember the show I said where it was a casting special? He was the host of it. And so he was one of the first people I got to talk to about it and gave me amazing advice about what I should do. He's like, just be yourself.

If you start playing up a character, they'll be able to see through it because they're filming you 24-7. So a lot, that's a lot of a lot of reason why people on real world don't like what they see on the edited version. They're like, oh, they edited me wrong. It's like, nah, you played a character. You didn't play you. Yeah, yeah. And if you don't play you, it's like your barstool stuff.

Like when you guys were doing that stuff, if you guys are just yourselves, you're not going to get screwed over because it's hard to edit something that you are. Yeah, right. Yeah, if you stay in the lane and for you like the whole time. Sorry for bringing the barstall stuff. I don't know.

No, no, barstow. No, no, barstle was awesome. Oh, yeah. I love watching the thing with you guys on it. I thought you guys were going to win, by the way. Surviving? Oh, surviving. I know, bro.

It seemed like it is. They were really going against you. Yeah. I can tell. He's off to them. And so I've never, obviously I made a joke about the hosting a reality TV, but I've never done reality TV.

Will did it the year before and won. And going into it, I was so naive to all the other games being played. And I thought, oh, but didn't he educate you? He did, but I guess like I didn't take it upon myself to noodle,

like getting to other people's business. I was like, oh, my squad seems really tight. Yeah. And then I watch it back. I'm like, they're trying to kill. Yeah, they're talking about too many moves too early

And it's like, hey, we got we can't be See, to me, I was like, let me make this impact quick Because I know Jersey Jerry, he was my first kill of the show And I was like, I need to get this cat out Because it's like, I never expected to win You can't, you gotta have someone else bring his name up Yeah, right You gotta, and then the bandwagon will happen

Knowing what I know now, Knowing what I know now, there were multiple people that were like Taylor And I was able to, without knowing like get Jerry And get people on Jerry And I might have been, out even sooner than that if I didn't like speak up a little bit. Inevitably, at end, my demise was always forecasted.

It was always going to happen. So I played these games and I've got to host these games. And I remember we did a, we did a show where on MTV that was a challenge-based show where you would take on the challenge, the people that actually do the challenge, the All-Stars versus celebrities. Celebrities didn't have a chance. Yeah. Because they don't understand the intrigues, like the, the ins and outs of the game.

Right. If you don't understand the game, it's a game. You have to play it. And if you're not playing it and you're not involved, you're not going to win. Like I watch all these like these reality shows like, traitors like I'm like I can win that. No doubt in my mind. Like all of them. Bro, those games are fun, bro.

I haven't seen traders. Dude, it's good. The most reason why I watch was a million dollar. It just came out on Netflix. It came out a little bit after battle camp. I think I know you're talking about like someone's like someone has a million dollars. Yeah, a million dollar club. You know the,

the guy, God, I hate that I'm blinking on this. Can you look it up, Sherm? Million Dollar Secret. Did you see that one? I did not. Bro, you would like that one. That's another like game within the game. I love that.

Like, Werewolf, the card game or Mafia. Some people play that game. Like all those little, I don't know, those strategy games are a lot of fun. Risk. We love risk. That's, yeah, 2020 when the whole COVID thing was going on. I was in California training. We would just get high and stay up to like two in the morning playing risk with like three of our game.

And we were just getting, like, you're training and you're just getting out. Yeah, we were trained. I put my kid to sleep. I had to get a little cooked up and then we play like three games of risk. Yeah. And we played on Xbox. Xbox live.

And so we'd all be on our controllers just talking trash, having a good time. It was so much fun. That's us. That was us earlier this year. Comrade Willie over there. Dude, would you play surviving Barstool? Would I play it? I think they're,

I don't know the rules. They're going to do a celebrity one. So the problem with those games are they don't allow phones. They don't allow, like, it's a big, like, it takes a long time to film a show. You know, it's surviving bars. I don't. I have two daughters. Bro.

It's done in a week and it comes out two months later. They do. And there are phones in the bar. Who's a production guy? Rob. Yeah, Rob. He does an amazing job. Yeah.

Of like handling everything. And yeah, after the challenges, we had our phones. Oh, really? Yeah. But you're right with how busy you are family. I was hearing like the things about traders that were like, yeah, you're out there for 15 days. You know, you get to talk to your kids. And if you do talk to your kids, like,

it's it's a person has to watch you do it I'm like uh yeah that's not happening yeah not a chance and oh uh I need to talk to my daughters every single day like yeah I'm I know you guys are girl dads but like what is that how does that been like you know raising girls dude incredible incredible man like like Roo she's very right now she's three she's very intense with her emotions it's been great for myself just I grew up it was me and two other brothers my mom she you know a lot of like boy energy handling us and everything else. But being like... Intent with her emotions.

Is that the PC version of whining all the time? She gets, she's a whiner, but she's very much, she feels all of her emotions in like a big way. So like having to communicate with a three-year-old, like in the trenches has been very much a learning experience for myself. And then Scotty Joe,

she's 10 months old. She's just a little. She's like Michael Parsons on third down. She's scrambling everywhere all over the floor right now. But it is, it is, it's the best feeling in the world being a girl dead. Did you educate him at all about a three-year-old?

Yeah, no, I think we've kind of played the games of like, okay, she's three. Like, I remember when Rue was born because I had my oldest, I might have not, yeah, I already had Willow as well. So I had both my kids. And it's almost like the first six months are kind of a grind. Grind. Because you don't really understand. Yeah. Six months to a year and a half.

You're in a good spot. You're in a good spot. But it's like around that six month mark is when you see the smile and they recognize you and come into a room. And that's when you're like, you're obviously in as a. father. But that's when you're like, I get, I, I, I, I 100% understand what the feeling everyone's talking about is. So if you don't feel it right away, that's perfectly fine. For my kids, like, my oldest daughter is, she's eight years old. And, uh, she just recently got a book. She was at

this like fair and just at a park a week ago. And there was a girl who was nine years old that was selling a book that she wrote herself. And my, yeah, how cool is that? So my daughter buys the book. Where do you live? Your daughter's learning Mandarin, this nine year old is writing books. Yeah, my kids, right. Who do you hang out with? My kids are the best. My kids are the best. But like when my oldest, she gets this book and she's like, you can tell like truly

inspired. So now my win has written four chapters of her own book in the last week and a half of these three kids. She's like, it's a rated R story, Daddy. I'm like, oh, what's rated R? I mean, she's like, there's guns. And I'm like, okay. And the story starts at these three girls.

They're in this car. The mom leaves out of the gas station. Someone starts shooting up the car. so the nine-year-old gets in the car, drives off. They end up in this boat, in the island. They meet with these other kids. They find their dad. She's telling me the story, and I'm reading the words.

And some of them are misspelled. But when she reads it, it's, like, it's fluid because it's like how her brain is seeing the words. And it's awesome. And she's taking piano lessons now where she wrote a theme song for the book. Like, because she's big into Harry Potter. So she hears the Harry Potter theme song. She's like written notes and plays the theme song. It's incredible.

On piano? On piano. And this is like, you're eight. Yeah. She plays like piano. She's not like, you know, it ain't Mozart, but she's out there. She works it. Like she understands the keys. Do you play? No, dude. I'm a front man. I can, you know, I can give you a little.

I'm a front man. But then my, my youngest daughter, like, I think the second is really unique because they watch the oldest and they want to like, they kind of fall in line with the oldest and follow whatever they do. It's really cool to see my youngest daughter find her voice and start to find, like, her own interest. she likes to do, where she likes to be dependent, where she likes to be independent. And it's like, I was literally having breakfast with my oldest daughter this morning. And I was like, I think I'm in like peak dad mode right now. And I've said this a bunch of times in the pod. She's like, what does that mean?

I was like, we're already decorating for Spooktober. We're already getting ready for like October 1st is to kick off to the holiday season. So we got a whole bunch of stuff going around the house. I was like, dude, like three years, you're not going to care about this. Like you're, you might be like me that like doesn't care then comes back to it. But like, you're fully invested. She doesn't know about sandwiches. yet but like she's all about Santa still so it's like the position I'm in as a father it's like

knowing that you're in the good old days while you're in them because right now it's like it's the fucking best dude it is it is all time yeah that's a win right there my wife and then I'm holding my youngest daughter right there but uh yeah ma'am I got five and seven and I uh it's it's a lot like I want to be there as much as possible with with WWE I travel a lot so I wonder what the grind was for you guys in football. I mean, you get to go home though every day, right? You go home every day. Like he had his kids after football.

For me, it was, yeah, like, you just know those six months are a blur and you try to be as good with your time as possible about like being present when you can be. But like when I was playing, it was like I'm always thinking about the rusher I'm going against or the defense I'm going against and how I played last week. How can I play better this week? So it's very difficult to be present all the time because, you know, you say you been doing uh, WWE for 20 years.

It's like, there's like three guys that's ever played 20 years in the NFL. And like, you know like it's such a finite amount of time. So my wife did a, was it did an amazing job of like getting times. Like, hey, we're going to be together at this time.

She knew the schedule inside and out. But it was, yeah, it's tough, man, especially when you're in it. And one thing that I think a lot of people don't talk about is after the season.

When the season ends and you're so used to kind of everyone catering to you. And you're now in an off season where now I'm integrating back into our family's license, but they have the routine. they had the things they do. Yes. No one ever talks about the routine. And it's like I,

there would always be like friction between me and my wife like between week one and week three of like the off season because like I'm trying to find my way back in. They're very comfortable about like seeing me rarely. But like, and so like I kind of bulldoze my way into it. And so that's a very difficult time to like get into it. Once you get into February, March, April, it's like, okay, everything's smooth sailing. But it's a it's a grind.

I mean, you understand. Yeah. I mean, I know. exactly what you're talking about like I every week it's that though like it's like I leave for a day or two and then I come back and then I'm like let's go let's go let's go and it's like we have a routine here yeah like this is our routine this is what we do and I come in and I just ruin that routine and kids need routines they need their there so you don't want to ruin that but also you want to make sure that like I try to create moments like capture moments like yesterday we went to like a

water park and we were there for six hours and I thought This was really cool. I got home and I wanted to watch football, right? Yeah. Sat down. I was like, oh, my dad, my kid comes up and he goes, you want to play? And one of my rules is if my kid asked me if I want to play, yes is always the answer. Yes, I want to play.

Because they're not going to ask that when they're 12. Right. They're going to be like, I don't want to, I don't want to hang out. Maybe they'll have conversations. You're going to ask to play. Exactly. So I'm like, how many more of those do you want to play? Do you want they always want to wrestle me?

Because they like, they like, believe it or not, yeah, shocking, right? Same. Okay, so it's not just that I'm a wrestler. I come home, my youngest daughter goes, Daddy, we want to catch these hands. I'm like, all right. Get in the bedroom. And I take him and I just throw them all over our master bedroom.

And I'm like, I'm throwing them in the air. Now does your wife go, stop playing so rough with them? There's been, we've probably wrestled, let's just say, a hundred times in their lives. There's been 35 times tears happen. But they got to find out who they are. Normally every time. But they love, I remember I used to play with my uncle Nick. And my uncle Nick was like professional.

boxer like really rough and I remember my mom always going Nick you're playing too rough with him. Yeah. Yeah. I would cry cry but I remember those times and I remember even though I was crying then like I remember them fondly and like like I remember smiling and happy and and every time I'd see my uncle Nick I'd try to like wrestle him and like get it so I remember those times even though I was crying every time I wrestle them it didn't matter. So like when I'm with my daughters I don't make them cry obviously But like tears do happen sometimes because we play rough. They like they want to play rough. They don't like they're like dad you're playing you're playing too light.

Throw me. And it's like all right. There you go. There's your throw. There's your throw. Spin me by my legs. My wife's like you're going to pull her legs off. I'm like I promise they're not.

They can handle it. They're good. They're kids. I talk about the ultimate gas light on my oldest. We were in Canada and like I was tossing her and like two or three tosses. She got hurt. And it was like a lot of tears. And I'm like, honey like this is you want.

to play like this. I'm playing. She's like, you're going too hard, you're going too hard. So I would take my five-year-old and I would just throw her to the headboard like a bunch of pills,

you know, get into it. She'd love it. And then my oldest, I pick her up and high in the air and I start to throw her down and I'd catch her and gently put her on the bed. She's like, no, that's not rough enough.

But I did that for like two, three different wrestling sessions. So the point where she's like screaming at me, she's like, that's enough. Like you need to be rough for it. I'm like, all right.

Well, let's find out who we are then. That's funny. Oh, you want it then? Let's do this. Oh, you're crying. This is what you wanted. Yeah. But it is like I'm, I'm, I have no idea what it's like to have a nine year old,

but I'm figuring out what it's like to have an eight year old and I've had a five year old. And like, it's the best. Yeah. It is. It truly is. And like, I always teach them the first thing that if they say we win wrestle, I was like lock up. Yeah. It's like, and I taught them how to lock up.

But then I also go, all right, now choke me. Like, you have to choke me out. Like, and it's not like, but it's like, I want them to learn if someone's picking on them. And someone is that I want them to be able to choke a person out. Yeah. Because it's not, you're not punching, you're not hurting yourself. You literally the, you duck under and you, boom, put it on. Are they doing any martial arts or anything like that?

Yeah. So I was watching like a podcast and I heard Dana White say something about jujitsu. And so he was like, he was like, uh, like a little girl can take down a 300 pound man. And I'm like, come on. It's like, if they had the right technique and they know how to do it, like they can do it. So I got my daughters into Jiu-Jitsu because I was like, I want my daughters to be able to take care of themselves. And I also think confidence level of knowing that you have the confidence to take care of yourself.

Have the ability to protect yourself. Yes. We started doing the same thing. Like I saw that podcast as well. And I was trying to like really press organized sports. And I was talking to my oldest. And I'm like, hey, listen, your dad, he did it. He's kind of, you know, you got the genes.

Basically, I was giving her the talk. Like, if you want to play with sports, you can do it. And you can get a scholarship ball, blah. I'm trying to explain Title IX to the whole thing. And she kind of sits back or watching playoff hockey. She sits back.

She's like, you know what, Dad? I think I'm just going to be me. And I was like, all right, right then in their, like competitive, like, team sports kind of died.

That's okay. But they have to do something. So I got them into Jiu-Jitsu. And it took a little bit of time for them to really get into it. But once they got that first stripe on their belt, they're locked in. They are all about it.

I did the bribe. Hey, every time you win, I get you a dollar. But they're like, they're about it now. So was it crying before going? Like, I don't want to go. I don't want to go because they're too busy, like playing with stuff.

And it's like, and you are like, okay, you know what? They don't want to do it. Right. But then it's also like, do they or because when they're there, they love it. They're having so much fun. But getting them to the place is so difficult. And it's like I'm, I'm like more strict on that like where it's like, no, if we're doing this, I kind of give them like, do you want to do Jiu Jitsu?

Yes. Okay. If we do this, you have to do it. Right. You can't just quit. We have to do it for one year. And I'll tell you what, if after the class, you don't want to do it anymore, you don't have to do it anymore.

And usually after the class, I was like, do you guys want to do it? And they're smiling. They're happy. They just took a boy down. Yeah. They start to build some confidence. Oh, yeah. They're like, do you want to do it tomorrow?

Yes. Right. Yes. And then the same thing happens. I don't want to go. I don't want to go. We're going. And if I'll tell you what, if afterwards you don't want to do it, we don't have to do it.

Right. It's always the same thing. always it's always yes after i always struggle with that and uh i remember being a freshman in high school i got like a lot of trouble in middle school and i was a freshman in high school it was summer workouts a group in arizona and so it's like you know a hundred and whatever degrees and they have like the the freshman the jv and the varsity they're all we're all like kind of doing camp drills and uh i'm like i'm like this like i'm not like fat but i'm like shapely i'm a shapely and i'm like mike from monster's ink and uh i'm i'm dying i've never had this difficult condition in my life so i go up to my dad who's in the stands

and I go, I'm done. I don't want to play football. I want to quit? And my dad gets up and he's like, all right, you want to quit? Go talk to the guy in the visor. And the advisor was a guy named Chad de Grenier, who was a head coach with the varsity team. And my dad says, he goes, sits in the car. And he just waits for two more hours.

I come back in. And he just sits there. He goes, buddy, I just want you to know what it's like on the other side. Like, if you're going to do something, you have to do it. And I mean, without that conversation, if he walked up and quit, it's like, we're not all sitting here. And it's like one of those things you look at your kids and like when they're crying and they're having a meltdown. And my wife's like, do they really have to go? It's like, no, you don't have to go, but they should go.

Because they committed to doing something. And it's like you just want them to get to the other side. And once they got that stripe, that's like, oh, I've had a little bit of success here. Now it's like, when's jiu-jitsu next. And that's when it's like getting fun in that regard too. Yeah, it's like gymnastics now too. Like gymnastics and jiu-jitsu is what they've been into. I've got them into soccer.

I've tried to get them into every sport just to see what connects and what clicks. Right. And so far, though the gymnastics and jujitsu has been the two that they have taken to. Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you guys. It's like if you're going to commit to something and then if they're having like if Roo's having a breakdown about something, it's more of just like, hey, this is what we do.

You said you wanted to do this. You know, give her the whole Compton speech. Like you're a Compton like this is how we show up. This is how we're going to do things. If at the end of it, you don't want to do it or you want to quit after said, see, like she's not old enough to be in seasons. But if at the end of the day you don't want to do it, we don't have to do it anymore. but if you said you're going to do this, like this is how we show up, this is what we do.

Because I agree. I feel like a lot of the times they just might be doing something in the moment. And it's like, well, they don't know what it looks like unless you teach them. And like the world's going to be hard. That's just however it is, it's like you can micromanage your kids as much as you want. But at some point, they're going to have your principles, your foundational thinking, like once they step out into the world. And you want them to know, like, hey, you might not want to do this today. But if you're somebody who, you know, keeps your word, you keep your commitment, like you'll think the right way.

like once you get to that age and it's like hey this is how we're going to do it if you say yes like you keep your word we're going to show up so if those are like the foundational things because it's hard when they're crying it's like I mean they are just three four or five like they don't have to but it's like ah isn't because I kind of don't want to go either or then you start to have that self-talk with yourself it's like no they need to know I have the self-talk every day like literally there has never been something so confusing in my life than parenting yeah it's just every time I'm out there, I'm like, am I doing the wrong thing? Like, it is the reason she's crying is because

she really doesn't like it or she's just having a meltdown and sometimes that happens. Right. You know, maybe she really does. But then she's smiling now. So it's like, wait. And then I'm like going in my head. I'm going, how can I do this? Okay. How can I develop her confidence? Because I want her to be a confident, you know, strong individual, you know, and smart and fun. And everything that you want like your daughters to be, you want them to be. And how do you guide them? You can't give them everything. Right. You can't lay it up. That's the hardest thing. You just say yes to everything. Then you're like, oh, man, I'm just giving him everything and they don't learn.

They're like false confidence where you just lay it up for him. It's like, oh, that was awesome. And then you're kind of just hoping that it works out again the next time. Are you familiar with the Montessori teaching? Yes. Not yes and no. Like, we looked into it. Right.

Is that where you? We were actually homeschooling for the first time this year. How is that going? Buddy, rave reviews at this point. Like, I told you about the story. Do you do the teaching or does it? God, no. Okay.

No. Who does the teaching? We have a teacher coming. Yeah, yeah. If I'm doing the teaching, call CPS. Like my kids are not going to be equipped. But we have a teacher that was actually at the Montessori school. And she wanted to do like a homeschool.

And that's what she did in the past. And she was like up in Minnesota. It came down. And it has been awesome. And for me, it was always like it's the social. It's the extracurriculars. Like you have to have enough of those. So like, you know, I think we all grew up with you see a couple homeschool kids.

And you're kind of like, yeah, right. to stand the social cue portion. But so far, I, I, rave reviews about it. What made you change?

It was always a conversation that took place when my oldest was born. And I think I was more resistant to it because I came from the public school system. I think social, like social interactions and understanding social cues are way more important than like your traditional, like how much do you know about the revolutionary war?

Unless this is what you want to go into. And then as we got farther and farther in it, it's like, you just want to make the right decision. And then it's like, okay, well, am I making the right decision for my kid or for myself? Because I'm worried about what my kid might be if they do this. But like, at the end of the day, like, we spend more time with our kids.

They're like, last year, my kid wasn't writing a story and like writing her own theme song to the story, which is something that's extremely new. But like, it's an opening space for them to be more creative in a world where the nine, like the nine to five is what we all grew up. It's like, you know, you go to high school, you go to college, then you get a job and then you die. You married and die. It's like now there's so many. different things you can do in this world and there's so much access to learn those things it's like

okay what are you most passionate in that's nurture that while checking the boxes we have to check from an educational standpoint and get you where you truly want to go in life and be the person that you actually want to be does she get to go to see her friends like does she have like where does she meet friends so there we do jihitsu we do there's art classes we do the mandarin thing but that's that's online and then piano lessons are all in a group setting as well um but it's like she's got like five to six good friends that were constantly circulating play dates on making sure happen there's a neighbor girl that is over every single day when school is up for her so the social part I think they're getting done I think as we get older we'll press it a little

bit more but like both my kids like when we go to a park it's not the nervous shy it's the who are you what's your name my name so-and-so this is how old I am they're very like forward and like willing to make a fool of themselves and I mean that in a positive way but the monosaur thing I was talking about before was the whole good job thing. Like one of the core values of Montessori is like self, like self-reflection. So like when a kid finishes a drawing and said, I've been like, oh, that's so great, good for you. It's like, how do you feel about it?

And then have them be like, I'm proud of this because of this. That gives them the self-validation to be like, oh, what my opinion matters more than what other people, people's opinions matter. And so I just think it's a really cool kind of way of going about things. And do you feel like they're keeping up with most kids? or do you feel like they're going down or up or maybe even higher? So we started Montessori, what's at September? Like we started at the middle of August.

So to know all that, I mean, check in with me at the end of the year. And then I'll have a better idea. But what I've seen from my kids, they seem much more engaged, much more like excited to talk about what they learned at school than they were when I would pick them up from school. So I feel like it's trending in the right direction. I have a hard time. I'll be like how like I try to not do the how was your day. I was like, what was your favorite part of the day?

Yeah. And still they don't know. Yeah, like I'm trying to do all the right like lingoes. I know. You could be sitting there's some doom scrolling on Instagram because there's so much good parenting stuff on Instagram like as I'm sitting there watching it. Yeah, also like this.

For the Dad is a great show you can go to check out. This is basically For the Dad's hosted by the Miz right here. Right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Top of Team 6 in the chat. There it is. No doubt.

But yeah, it's a, I was nervous about the homeschooling thing. I love it right now. And it could change at any point. But I just think more time with your kids. Like why not? Right. Yeah. Yeah.

We started Rue in school this year. Like we've had several of the days where she doesn't want to go to school, which I kind of enjoy because it's like you get to do all the same kind of conversations of like, you know, not talking or going, but essentially like talking or into going. Right. It's like, oh, all your friends are waiting this, that the other. But so she just started Montessori school this year. And it's been. What do you think? I love it.

I feel like they do, you know, with the Montessori stuff, again, I was a public school kid. There wasn't really any Montessori around where I grew up in good old Bontere, Missouri. But it's like really like tribal to where they're setting their spot when they all eat, whether they use snack time or lunchtime, like they're setting their table. They're cleaning up after themselves. They're learning. It's like working with it with the kids, like the manners and who's going, who's doing this, who's doing that.

Like everybody's helping out. And they gravitate more towards like the kids' interest, which I haven't got to go to like an observation class where they'll have the parents come in. You get to kind of watch them throughout the school day. I think we do that here in a couple weeks, which I'm excited about. But it seems to be going awesome, man. Like she seems to be making friends. Like they play outside a lot.

It sits on like, like, I don't know how many acres, like in that 10 to 20 on acres to where they get a lot of outside time. They get their rest time. They're doing a lot of things that's where it's like them self-helping themselves and they get guided to what their interests are, guided to, hey, if you got to go to bathroom you're you know you're more well equipped to do it on your own not having to hey if you can wipe you can wipe uh i've seen to enjoy it i think she's having a good time with it and i also it's like i enjoy when she's in all these other set like other settings to where somebody else can be their

like authoritative figure to where she's more uncomfortable being away from being away from myself i know like even as a dad i get really nervous every time i drop her off to do some whether it's gymnastics because now she'll now she does ballet to where it's more class where the parents aren't in there. I myself find myself just being sad. I'm like, man, what if she's scared? What if she doesn't fit in? She's shy at first. I hope she has a good time. To where I also, it's like my wife and I will have those conversations with ourselves like, hey, you know, even though this adult might have not have said a thing that we would want them to say, they're going to be around all these authoritative figures throughout their life.

Like, it's good to get them, you know, adapted to those things. But we've seen like she comes home, she talks about school. She talks about her friends. She tells us about her day. they seem she seems to be doing well there so we've had a good experience so far but we're only like a month in okay but we've enjoyed it it's been it's been fun and i kind of look forward to the chaos in the morning looking for the proper school which is the best school i want number one i want the best the best and it's like all right uh and you're already thinking like is she can go to college like i don't know i want her to the opportunity to go to college in montessori schools do can they go to college is that like i'm learning that too bro they go they go pretty deep in the

grades and it's like I sit there again all I've known as the public school system and it's like you know I'll sit there and I'll be like I turned out all right yeah and I came from bontea Missouri like I'm sure you know it doesn't necessarily matter she's going to go to a school somewhere here in Nashville but parents are pretty like dialed on if I'm talking to a parent like an adult and they're like oh where you think about your kid going to school and I'm like dude I have no fucking clue like do I right you might need to you know you got to get in early you got to do this that's the thing about Nashville man like I have no clue bro I'm sure when you grew up it was like you go to school at five. Like that's kindergarten. And then if there's a daycare, something like that,

you go to the daycare. But like here in Nashville, it's like there are kids in school at 18 months years old. What? 18, yeah, not years. 18 months. And you're just like, what are we talking about here? I feel like those might be more like the daycare or like, what is it called mom's day out? The Montessori school that my kids were at before, they started at 18 months. And I was getting the same conversation that you were getting where it's like, hey, where are they going to school? Well, she's two and a half. Now you should probably get her in before. Otherwise, they might not have a lot of area or all these different things. And it's like, bro, like, we can't just like put them in a, like, hey, go to school now, five.

You know, it's kind of like a, it's a wild thought process. Yeah. Because when you're a small town, it's like you got the one school. Yeah. That everybody goes to. Oh, they're on that side of the line. They got to go to Park Hills. Can I ask you a question?

Yeah. So you win $50,000. You move to L.A. You get an acting coach, improv coach. You're doing all the things, putting yourself in a position for the WWE. You're in Venice Beach at the gold gym. What happened to get you in WWE? So,

good question. So they had a show on MTA. We'll go back to MTV. So MTV had a show called Tough Enough, where you could win a WWE contract if you win the show. So I wanted to try out. But back then,

you couldn't be on two shows. You couldn't be on Real World Road Rules Challenge and then be on Tough Enough. So they wouldn't let me do the show. But then cut to three years later, after training and learning the art of professional wrestling, trying to at least, I was trying to go to Japan because I've heard like

that's where you can really, you know, learned a different style. Like Japan has a different style than what WWE is. There's different styles everywhere. Like Lucha Libre is Mexican. That's very, that's a whole different style as well. So there's different style.

So I was like, maybe if I learn, you know, the art of professional wrestling here in California, then I'll go to Japan and they'll bring me over to Japan. And I would do like things called dark matches where you go backstage and you kind of start meeting people backstage and you might get a dark match, which is the match before the show even airs. So they can see you and test you out. I never got one of those because I just wasn't like they weren't looking for me. And then finally three years later, after all that, I got asked to do tough enough, which was not going to be on MTV. It would be on the CW during Smackdown.

And I was like, I was like, I've been trying to do this show, but they wouldn't let me. He's like, there's going to be 50 people. If you make the top eight, then you will be on the show. I'm in. So I had to go to Venice Beach. They had this, they had a ring set up. They had an obstacle course. And I'll never forget, Bill DeMont's like, oh, the real world guy.

And by the way, being on the real world, you might be like, oh, that must be like a good thing, right? Like you already have a notoriety. You have people watching you. Not in WWA. That was more like, no, you don't belong here. You shouldn't be here. We don't want you here. You're just, I mean, when you're on a reality show, you back then, you were in no talent hack.

You weren't, you were just on what you can be filmed and you're good on television. People didn't realize like it does take an, there's a special thing to being on a reality show. You have people that are wallpaper that literally you never ever see and you have people that are the star of the show. And you need those stars. And so people didn't realize that. I don't think back then, maybe producers and that kind of stuff, but like not, you know, when I was trying out. So I try out and I remember being going on to this obstacle course and it almost felt like

they were trying to get me out because it was like, what's your time going to be? And I was like, and back and I think it was like under like two minutes was unheard of. Like no one's even come close to being under two minutes. And I was like, oh, I'm just going to do my best. What's your time going to be? And I'm like, I know what they're doing right now. Like they're going to make me say under. If I say three minutes, you know, that's not fast enough.

Two and a half. It's not fast enough. Oh, that's it. That's it. That's all you're going to say. I was just like, I'll go under two. And they were like, ha, ha, no one's been under two. There's no way you're going to do that.

Did the obstacle course? Got under two. Got like 157. And they were just like, whoa. And then I got in the ring and I started cutting promos. And they were like, oh, okay. And so I made it on to the show. Now once I made it on the show, they were trying to almost make you quit.

We would have to do 500 bumps, which is bumps is like standing in the middle of the ring and landing flat on your back. Just flat on your back, flat on your back, like 500 of those. Then you'd have to do flip bumps where you do kind of a 180 and land on your back. And then so one guy ended up did quit. And it just felt like the entire time they were just trying to, it was like, can you withstand what we're putting you through? Because we're going to give you a, I was on the million dollars. They're going to win a million dollars. It sounds like a hell week, like a Navy SEALs hell week.

100%, but it was it was the hardest thing. And so I made it all the way through, got second place, didn't win. The fans voted and they voted Daniel Puter, the winner. But honestly, that was a blessing in disguise because during this time, I impressed the execs so much that they were like, we're going to give you a developmental contract. It wasn't a million dollar contract. And I had to take a pay cut from doing the reality shows. When I was doing reality shows and I would win. And so when you win, I win a lot of money, right?

So I took a pay cut to go into the developmental into deep south wrestling in Atlanta, Georgia, which was McDone, Georgia. So moved from Los Angeles to McDonough, Georgia. And every day I'd wake up and my body was just killing me. I'd be like, one more day, you can do it. One more day, you can do it. One more day, you can do it. One more day you can do it. And you'd see people quitting.

You would see people always. faking that they were sick on the bleachers. I never wanted to be in a bleacher. Never wanted to be a sick guy in a bleacher. I was always the guy that was like, I'm just going to go through it and let the torment happen. And so went through it. Finally got up into the Smackdown.

And when I remember sitting down with Vince and Vince, they were like, Vince wants to see you. And I'm like, oh, man, holy cow, this is it. I get in there and he's like, we want you to be the Ryan's secret. of the WWA. And let me tell you something. Ryan Sechrist is a hell of a talent.

Yeah, yeah, talented guy. Hell of a talent. But when you want to be the big star in WWE, being the Ryan Seacrest of WW is not what you want to hear. But I knew that if they gave me a microphone, I could get the crowd to want to see me get beat up in the ring. He wanted me to be the host of Smackdown. Like they wanted me, they didn't want me to be like a wrestler.

even tried to get me to be a commentator, like commentators being like, you know, hello everybody, welcome to Monday Night Raw or Friday Night Smackdown. They wanted me to be that guy. And I actually went to Stanford to do that. And like, they asked me like, this is what we're thinking. This is, I was like, I really want to, I think I could be a WW superstar. And by the way, even me thinking of this now, like, I can't believe I had that much balls to say that. Like, because when you're trying to get in to WWE and this is your dream, it's like, they're giving you like an opportunity.

Take it. Take it. Take everything. And I was just like. And you're trying to tell them, I think I can be at WDW. By the way, six one, two hundred nothing pounds. And everyone still, by the way, back then, people were still huge, right? Yeah. They were massive.

Throughout these stories, you've gotten taller, by the way. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. So, uh, and I feel taller. Uh, because that's my feeling at the time. Let's go. So I, uh,

So yeah, I got the microphone. I was the host of SmackDown, and I knew if I could get people to hate me enough or love me enough on the microphone that they'll want to see me in the ring. And finally, after I believe, like, that's where I did the hosting of Smackdown, did the hosting of the Diva search.

And once I got done with the Diva search, I was told, hey, you're going to have your first match next week. And it was against Tatanka. And had my first match against Tentaka. against Tatanka and I beat him, went one and oh, and I went like six and oh, and everyone hated it. And it was great because like, the worst thing you can have is when you walk out, no one does anything. Yeah.

If they're booing you, that's a pat on the back. That's awesome. And honestly, I prefer it. I like being a bad guy. I like, a lot of people don't like it. A lot of people don't like when they go on Twitter and see like, this guy sucks. He's terrible. He's the worst wrestler ever.

I, it thrives me. It, it releases a fire in me. When someone tells me I can't do something And now starting to realize more and more Like that's how I grew up. Like my dad was never like, great job. You know, you're doing great. It's always like, Mike, what are you doing?

What do you do? Why are you throwing a curveball when you just learn how to throw a curveball? Throw a fastball. And I'm like, leave me alone, dad. I know exactly what I'm doing. You know, and it's like in football or a basketball. It was always like,

you're, how are you missing foul shots, Mike? They're the easiest ones. You're just standing there. Just hit the thing. I'm doing it for a reason. I'm doing it. You know, so like that's what I grew up with. So now, like, when the audience, I hear the audience doing that kind of stuff, it's like

kind of what I grew up with. And it's made me who I am. Like my dad, like, I love the fact that he did that and was like that because it gave me a work ethic. Like you had to work for everything, every ounce, every inch, everything that you've ever gotten. And in WWW, you had to work for everything. The reason why it was so hard and developmental is because when you get up to the top and you're a WWE champion, you have to be able to withstand everything.

And I mean everything. And so the pressure when you are a champion, they're trying to see, they're weeding out all the people that don't need to be there that can't withstand the pressure of being not alone WWE superstar, but can they stand the pressure of having the weight of a WWE championship? because it's unlike anything you can ever imagine. When you have that title, everything is on you. The company. We have a bad showing at an arena where it's not sold out or it's half full or the PLE doesn't get as many buys. That's on you.

It's not on all those other guys. That's on you. You're the face of the company. You're the guy that we put everything into. So if we are failing, you're fail. Like if I'm failing, the company's fail. That's what you feel like. That's the pressure that you have.

So when you're going through the developmental, and you're going through that hell, and it's tiring and it's hard, and you're sitting there going every day, you're saying, can I do this? Oh my God, I don't know. I don't know, but one more day, one more day, one more day. And when I got up to WWE, I got kicked out of the locker room.

The superstars didn't like me. And if you get kicked out of the locker room, like, I don't know in football, but like I need people to do. teach me how to be a WWE, how to be a top talent in WWE. So people are like, well, why didn't you fight the people? Like, why didn't you, you know, stand up for yourself? And I'm like, in that moment, if I would stood up for myself, I would have got fired within

a week. And I would have never made it back because I was that guy, like that nobody wanted there. I was the guy that was walking on eggshells. But, you know, somehow, some way, I would crush every egg. And literally like, I remember I was eating chicken in a locker room. And a guy came in and was like, you got. chicken all over the place. And I still, to this day, do not believe that I got chicken all over the place because I was so

on the eggshells that I was like eating like this. And they were like, you got it everywhere. And then by the time, you know, the telephone happened, it was like I was taking chicken and just throwing it all over the locker room, you know, which I wasn't. But then got kicked out of the locker room. It took like six months to get back into the locker room. And it was a lot of like, yes, sir, hello, sir, sir, hello. And by the way, back then, everyone shook each other's hands.

When you walk into the arena, you shook everyone's hand. You look them in the eye. I don't care if they were eating or whatever because they'll find something, right? So if someone was eating and you didn't shake their hand and they saw you, you didn't shake my hand today. He didn't shake your hand. Big game of posture and going on. How could he not shake your hand?

It's not like that anymore. And sometimes I miss those days, right? Yeah. Because it really showed a respect and a want. And honestly, I remember I went into an audition for a supernatural. And I walked in and I'm just so, I just shake everyone's hand. I shook everyone's hand in the audition. And I remember getting the part and then being like, how did I get that part?

It's like, one, you were amazing in it. And there was no one that we actually saw. But two, you shook everyone's hand. Like, we've never seen anyone do anything. Like, no one does that. Like, usually people just go in and they're sewing in their head. And I was like, wow, that was something that WWE has always ingrained in me. Like you kind of, even when I'm done with like on like when I was doing American gladiators,

I after we were done, I would shake everyone's hand after the end of the night. It's just something that's ingrained in me now. Like when you're done, you shake everyone's hand because and you look them in the eye and say thank you. Right. And it kind of ingrained that in me. So I was like, it doesn't happen now. Like because it's very, it's not loose, I would say. But I don't know.

Back then it was, it was very difficult. but I'm glad I went through it because it made me realize like I could take on anything. Yeah. I could do anything I need to do. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Was there ever a moment where you're like at the top whether it's WW champion or you're getting right there to where you failed on the mic or you had a lapse like during a promo to be like, ah, fuck, that was my moment. Oh, fuck I let everybody down with that one.

It's every time I go out there. I'm so, I will watch every, a lot of people don't like to watch themselves. on TV. They don't like the way they sound. They don't like the way whatever. I dissect everything I do. Will you watch this podcast? Absolutely. Are you kidding me? And I will dissect everything. I should have talked about that, should have talked about that. Could have went in this step. I could have done a joke there. That's just everything I do. I literally, I study it and say, how could I've done that better? I will watch this podcast and I'll go, how could I have done that podcast better? How could I have done it for

the boys? Because I'm a fan of Bustin with the Boys. I think that you, what you've guys done and what you've created out of a bus? and especially that you guys, obviously, pro football players, very, very successful, undrafted, but you did well. You're a pat on the back. But did well, but did well. Hey, man, you were great on special teams. You really were.

You were. And you were a great linebacker. Thank you. You really were. But man, what you guys were able to create, think about that. It is very hard to be successful in one thing and then turn it around and be successful in something else. And not only that, create jobs for so many more people and then have so many different

avenues like you guys have created a really cool atmosphere for people to come and talk i watched don like don like and sue and i was like i always thought that guy was a jerk because i watched him on football and it seemed like it seemed like he was a jerk and then i watched him on here and i was like i like that guy who's soft spoken he was eloquent he was very business savvy i was like wow man i did not think sue was like that you know he seemed like just a dirty dirty player yeah yeah he didn't give a fuck he had a couple of things yeah i'll tell you what But words of affirmation are the key to our hearts. You did it.

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while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So I know the biggest thing going on right now is wrestle paloosa. Russell.

And I mean, WW is going to ESPN. And like talk about not only a wrestle paloza, but like how WDB has been able to evolve in the two decades you've been a part of it. Dude, it's, it's been incredible. I've been here for 20 years. And I remember when the scenes weren't full, right? I remember when looking out there and it's just, you know, how do we get more popular? How do we build this business?

And every day you just go out there and you do the best you possibly can, you know. And so now looking at where we are, we're on Netflix. I think us going to Netflix was a huge, huge move. And the reason being is one of my buddies lives down the street and he has three boys. And he was like, yeah, they never really, really watched until you were on Netflix because now it's not at 11 o'clock at night. They had to go to bed, eight to 11. That's a late night. But when they get home from school, it's on Netflix.

It's right there. Number one show on Netflix, boom. They turn it right on. and that's generating a whole new band base because we're also on USA for Friday Night Smackdown and then once TKO took over, it feels like we're getting out there more in the world, if you will. Like there's less live events,

but we're traveling more worldwide. And they're creating new places. Like ESPN now is our home for PLEs, premium live events. And our first one is Russell Palooza. It's going to be a part of the Big Six. You got WrestleMania. You got Royal Rumble, Survivor Series, SummerSlam, money in the bank, and now Russell Palooza. We have Big Six.

These are our big, huge PLEs, and they're all going to be on ESPN. We're moving to everything. All our PLEs, two ESPN. This is the first one, and it's starting off with a bang. I mean, you have Cody Rhodes, who is our WWE champion, who has been doing a phenomenal job as WWE champion. Have you guys talked to him yet? I have not got to talk to him. He has an amazing story.

It's Dusty Rhodes' kid. Right. And growing up as a kid of a living legend to be in that shadow, but not only to be in the shadow, but to succeed under that shadow and take what he's done. His story is tremendous. I mean, he literally was unhappy in WWE. He left. He created a whole underground vibe of literally a huge fan base that brought him back into fruition to where people,

like, WWE didn't look at him as a main eventer. They said he's, he's a mid-carder. So he said, I'm better than that. I know I'm better than that. And I don't like we're on that.

So I'm going to leave. And I'm going to build. And I'm going to make you believe that I'm a main eventer. And he did exactly that. He came back. And now he is our poster child. He is,

he's guile and street fighter. You know, and he's been doing, I mean, he's been doing a tremendous job. But, I mean, he's going to be taking on Drew McIntyre

for the WWE championship. John Sina is on a farewell tour. This is the last time we're going to see him wrestle in a ring in Indianapolis at Russellpa Luzza against Sue. Brock Lesner. Oh, shit. Yeah, man. Lesnar seems like a psycho. Oh, my gosh. Psycho. I mean, Brock Lesnar is just a massive human being and just full of just muscle. Yeah. And like, when you think of a professional wrestler, like, you show Brock Lesnar, it's like, yeah, that guy. I don't want to mess with that guy at all. And John Sina's last match in Indianapolis will be against Brock Lesnar. And he's on a farewell tour. And this is sad for, I think, not only me, but I feel like the up and coming

superstars, because I got to learn from John Sina. I got to get the teachings from John Sina. And now these kids that are coming up from our performance center won't get that opportunity to wrestle John Sina. Look at the wrestle me, which is great. But there's there's a, There's a difference. So I've got to learn from John Cena now. Hopefully I can take what he's taught me and pass it on down. And that's what you do as a legend in the business, right? You always want the stuff that you've taught and left on this industry to be passed down for generations upon generations.

And so I've been fortunate and very lucky to be in the ring. I want to do it one more time. But I feel like he only has like six more dates. Because this year is the last year. I think it's like December or something. Is his last show. Yeah, is his last wrestling match. He's been doing a farewell tour.

This is it. This is on September 20th. September 20th will be the last time you see John Cina wrestle in Indianapolis. Oh, buddy. Yeah, and that's Russell. I mean, this is why it's big. Not only that, like you have Seth Rawlins and Becky Lynch teaming up. They're a couple going up against the couple of CM Punk and A.J. Lee,

who just made her return in Chicago. And it was wild. It was, it's big. And so the couples matches are always interesting because you never know. know, like we always say you never know what's going to happen. But in a couples match, like this is a real life couples. Yeah. They're real life and they're fighting each other at Russell Palooza. I mean, I can't wait for Russell. I mean, and being able to go to ESPN, like, I mean, it's the worldwide leader in sports. Like, I mean, think about that.

We've been able to dip our tell. When I was a kid, we got a pinky in there. What did you watch? What did you watch when you were kid? ESPN. ESPN. Like when you wake up in the morning, some people watch news. I watch ESPN. Right. I remember like ESPN, ESPN, ESP in your face. You probably don't remember that. Yeah. But I remember that. The commercial is the whole thing. Yeah. And now and sometimes I felt like, you know, ESPN kind of sidetracked us. Not sidetracked, but like kind of like, not push us aside, but like we're at WW. We were sports entertainment. Now we're a focal point in ESPN. And I love the fact of being on ESPN and being at have our huge events on there, it's going to amazing. The only thing that worries me for you guys and Russell Palooza is it's, I mean,

I feel like someone should have thought of this, but like you guys booked it on the same day as the Buston Bowl. Oh, really? Yeah. That is Michigan versus Nebraska. It is. So yeah, it's a double header. It might be one of the greatest days in entertainment ever. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Did you go to Nebraska? Buston Bowl. Was it 2.30? Did you go to Nebraska? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, and you went to Michigan. Ohio. I mean, Ohio. Yeah. Okay. I went to Michigan. Oh, yeah. Yeah, hold on. Because you said, I heard you mentioned Miami of Ohio. I heard you mentioned Stanford on this.

And then you just said Ohio State. Yeah. Who are you calling him? I mean, I, uh, Ohio State's the dog right now. I'm a Miami of Ohio, but we're never in the tournaments. Like the last time we were in a tournament, I think was like with Rothlessberger or Wally Zerbiak in the NBA. But I mean, I mean, we're never in anything. So it's the Ohio State University.

Sean McVeigh went to Miami of Ohio. He did. You know what's interesting about that? I have a story about Sean McVeigh. Uh, so, um, Jay Glazier, uh, has. has a gym unbreakable in Los Angeles. Or he did. I don't know if he still does.

But Jay told me to come down to work out there. First day I get there, I'm like working out with like Sylvester Stallone. And then who shows up? And this is before he's the coach of the Rams. He just got the job. Sean McVeigh walks in. And so Jay's like, you two should work out together. I'm like, yeah, sure, no problem.

I like, I was like, oh, yeah, this is a good guy. good, I wanted to run through a wall. Like, like, when we were done working out, like, he was pushing me, like, pushing me. And I was like, this is why this guy is going to be a great coach. And then, like, he became this amazing coach. And I was like, I know why. I felt it. Like, there's certain people that you can feel in energy and it drives you.

And there's something about Sean McVeigh that literally when you were around him, you want to do better, you want to be better. You're like, I can beat this guy. But he's not going to let you beat him. Like, you have to really work for it. Yeah. So McVeigh is awesome, man. In my book, he's a dog, though.

That is awesome. You were able to have him at the Redskins, yeah? Yeah, he was the OC at Washington when I was there, and he was, he's a stud. Like, I know he was doing, like, the interview circuit for head coaching jobs and the way they were kind of telling me about it is he'll get in the circuit this year. He probably won't get a job. And then the next year it'll keep growing and building. But apparently, like, when he went interview with the Rams, they didn't want him to

leave the room because he had done such an incredible job again just the aura that he has like once you're around him he's got it he's got that x factor the last 10 minutes the conversation took place we talked about shudor sanders a bunch of things Caleb Williams Caleb Williams is he the guy is he not the guy seems like a thing that you guys will never know the answer to at this point so we miss if we talked about you would just keep bear bears fans just in hell because they want to know these they don't deserve the words I do not feel sorry for any bears fan I saw your whole little promo and I was like you don't even get it.

You don't get, you had, you had Rex Grossman take you to the Super Bowl and you got to go to a Super Bowl. You know how I have to go through? Yeah. At least you had Jay Cutler for a while. That's true. I mean, that was fun. Yeah, it's true. Me, what have I had? What are the Bears fans? What is

the Cleveland Browns fans had? So that video would have been great for you when you guys had drafted what Johnny Mansell, what, what what pick did you have him on? 31st. 31st. So even then, but it's like, you know, they've went through all these guys,

you got the number one overall pick and he just doesn't seem like he's going to be that number one overall pick for you. How many times have I had the number one pick or close to the number one pick or the guy that everyone's talking about? Who's been the quarterback that you've taken? Charlie Frye.

Exactly. Brandon Whedon. Tough. Exactly. Deshawn Kaiser. Yeah, and the video that I posted. Colt McCoy. Oh, that's your boy.

Colt was second round. I mean, do we want to go old? Do we want to go old? Tyrod Taylor, Seneca Wallace. I mean, what else you want, huh? All I'm saying is. RG3, we had him as well. Yeah, what else?

Derek Anderson, I thought he was a guy. He didn't end up being a guy. What else? Huh? Did I feel like the miss saw that one photo of the fan that has like the name and then a whole bunch of sheets of like the other names that took place and you memorize them all. That's my life.

No, I didn't memorize. That's my life. I would have made that. This is what I remember. I would have made that video for you guys. you, you know, had this, this is going to be the next coming of our quarter. This is going to be our quarterback for life. Who? Who?

Like, I know you don't feel bad for the Bears fans. You bunch of cry. You don't get it. You didn't have to go through a no-win season. And then the next year went two games. Boy, was that a fun year? Those were fun for us. Do you understand what, the thing about Chicago is it's a big city, right?

They got the Bulls. You know, Cleveland needs its sports. When its sports thrives, Cleveland thrives. And that's why we, need great football team, basketball team, baseball team. Because when those sports are going, that city is pumping, man. And that's what I love about that city. But it's hard when the city, when it's not happening because it's depressing. The city feels it. I feel like, I love Kevin Sifansky. Kevin Sivansky is a coach. Like, I do not think, like, if we do terribly this

season, we need to, like. But talking about, what was your expectation going into this season for the Browns? Super Bowl. No, it wasn't. Yes, it was. No, it wasn't. 100%. I'm from Cleveland. Bro, you're not saying,

Joe Flacco. You're not. Why not? With the Ravens? Why not us? Why not? Why not? He did it.

Because of all the things you said, that's why not. You don't get it. Joe Flacco was an MVP, Super Bowl winning MVP. I agree. That was his best guy. I was in college when that happened.

Yeah. So it was 2012. I was hating him. You're talking about division. Now I like him. Yeah, but Joe Flacco, the age he's at now, I saw him run.

It looked a lot like me running out there. He's a pocket passer. Aaron Rogers, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow. Like, there's no way you're thinking this is a Super Bowl. He was a Super Bowl. He's In-Brose. He's gone for a couple weeks. He's gone for the season.

By the way, we should have beaten Cincinnati. We beat ourselves. And that's a lot of, that's what I think happens a lot of time with Cleveland Browns. We end up beating ourselves. Miles Garrett controls a game. It's interesting to watch him, like Micah Parsons. Like, they're game wreckers. They ruin an entire office.

that literally thinks that they can do an offense that usually can do whatever the hell they want. Because they have Jamar Chase T. Higgins. Oh, all these super sexy playmakers. And then what happens? Miles Garrett gets in there and goes, here's your seven yards for the second half. And how do we lose? How do we lose? No offense.

Joe Flacco, which brings us back to interceptions. What do we do? Dylan Gabriel? Is that our guy? Do you think Shadur is our guy? I think Dylan Gabriel looked pretty good when you put him against. By the way, you guys lost the game 42 to 17. against the Ravens yesterday.

Thanks. I remember. You just talking about Super Bowl. I remember. Gabriel came in and had a nice touchdown pass. Do you want to hear something even more? On his birthday weekend. I thought Flacco was going to get the win and then he was going to have, I think, 31 teams

that he's beaten. I thought he was going to beat the Ravens yesterday. I thought we were going to win. That's what makes fandom the best. That is. That delusional thought process. It's not delusional. It could happen.

It could. Miles Garrett's on our team. It could, but not right now. Your office lines is not very good. Your best running back has got a D&D issue. Think about what your expectations would be, the history that you've talked about to Cleveland Browns. And you go out and get Ben Johnson.

He's the new head coach. And it's like year two for the number one overall. We got Kevin Stefanski like five years ago. And he was the coach of the year. Two of his like five years that he's been. What do you want for me? Like we have a coach of the year. He's one coach of the year.

Twice. So when Stapansky came over like, what was the expectation? We're about to win the whole thing. Yes. Yeah. And we had Baker. My video would have been great for that year when, you know, those couple of years happened for you guys and Baker Mayfields, Stefansky.

Can you make, can be this for all the bad teams? Can you just explain this to me, though? Here's what I don't understand. You have Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield was rookie of the year, right? And then, and he had records. And then the second year, I believe he got injured maybe. And then he got ousted.

how does that happen? How do you look at a guy that gets rookie the year that takes you to a playoff that you've never been and wins in the playoff. We almost beat the Kansas City Chiefs if you remember that.

We almost won that game. And so then you go to kicking them off your team. Why? Yeah. Like why does that happen? I know. And then I met Baker.

I met Baker and I got to tell you, I love the guy. Yeah. I think anybody who comes across, Baker Mayfield loves Baker Mayfield. So if you, If you, if you,

if you, you think Stefansky didn't like that? No, I don't know. Do you think that is it? The, or do you think the higher up upper management?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. What would it be, though, if you see a guy in a locker room and he's getting along with, he seems like a guy that gets along with boys. Like, right? Like, he seems like a guy that can motivate a team and get it.

Not on that you had a run game. You had an incredible offensive line. Nick Chubb. Yeah. So I don't understand like that, why? Why do we get rid? It'll,

it'll always be in my mind. I'll never understand it. Being with him at the American Century Championship, I, like, played 18 holes with him and Kittle. And boy, was that fun. That's a good tour right there. Oh, my God. Yeah. I was filming for my, my YouTube channel, Ms. Golf out there for anyone that wants to watch.

Go subscribe. Go subscribe. Ms. Golf. Yeah. And honestly, at one point, all three of us were listening to Baker's music and dancing in the middle of the fairway. And I go, what do you listen? What is this? We've been listening to all day.

It's the best music ever. He goes, big booty mix. 15. And I'm like, you're kidding. I was like, this is what this is. And so now I have big booty mix 15 just playing all the time whenever I'm golfing. I'm going to ride it on the way home. Dude, I'm telling you. It was great to. I listen, I know you're in pain as a Browns fan. You don't know what pain is. You sit there and you cry. He don't know. Caleb, isn't it? Tell him about the Huskers, Will. He don't know about the Huskers. What about the Huskers? You're going to lose the Michigan. I'll tell you that. I don't even like

Michigan, but they're going to lose the Michigan. I don't even know. I mean, is that even a game? I, it's going to be like that grambling game. That was like zero points scored. I had no clue.

My Bears video did this to you because you're lashing out right now, but to act like I don't know pain, you'd be sadly mistaken. The Huskers over the last decade since I walked. Why did you go to Nebraska? Bo Polini and that staff. Yeah. Yeah. My family's from Broken Bo, Nebraska.

Some of my family. Are the Oscar fans? I've been there. I've been to, They are. Yeah, I think everyone's a Husker fan in Nebraska. Get her done's a big Husker fan too.

Yeah, Larry the cable guy. Larry the cable guy is a big, big. I see him at the American Century Championship as well. You should not go to Russell and come to the Buston Bowl. Should check that out. I'd love to, but it's a huge event. It's our big six.

It's true. It's a big deal. And we're going to promote the hell out of it here with Bustin with the boys. Yes, because it's a big deal. You're right. So what's the, I have a,

I haven't like the big moments of. Well, you're telling me you don't want to see John Cena versus Brock Lesnar. Absolutely. If you took a gorilla and shaved all its hair off its body, that's what Brock Lesnar's body. That is, I mean, he is a freak. That's going to be incredible. I can't wait to watch it.

And the way there's the, the way we've been putting out things, when we went to Netflix, with Smackdown, USA, you look at it now and you think we're going to ESPN. We're pulling out all the stops. So I feel bad for you. you guys on that Saturday because we're pulling out everything. Can I be honest with you? No one could show up to that game and Will and I will be excited about it. Is that right?

I mean, yeah, there's no place I'd rather be. Yeah. Memorial Stadium on Saturday where we kick off conference play with the Michigan Wolverines and the bus and bowl. We got our trophy. This is a trophy game.

So will you guys be kind of commentating on it or will you guys, fans? Fans. We're sitting there. We'll be on the sideline. I don't know what the dynamics looked like. Last time we stood on the Nebraska side line, we'll probably do the same thing.

thing again. You'll stand on the Nebraska sideline. Yeah, listen, I'm not here to put salt. We're 4-0 against Nebraska. You should see if you could stand on the Michigan side. I could if I want it. But if I go, I go GBR after Go Blue. Like, it will know that. What do you think of JJ McCarthy? Huh? We think of JJ McCarthy? Where are you?

Yeah, where are you at him? It takes some time. I think you got a great coaching staff and I think you got a good defense behind them too. They're going to be in games because their defense and the coaching staff. At all worried. Well, yeah, I think you should be concerned a little bit if you're a Vikings fan, but like it's going to take time. He'll have a defense.

He'll have two to three years. Oh. But wait a see. He's ruled out. So yeah. Who got ruled out? But him being a first round pick, he'll have two years. Wait a second.

He's ruled out of the game. Yeah. Already? See you. That's the second injury. In two years. Yeah. That's tough.

Can't get that bug. You got to get that off. Are you trying to pour salt to the win since he's Michigan and you're an Ohio State guy? A little bit. I kind of see his antics right now. Oh, no, yeah. But it's seen. but this is like, you know, what do you do to a guy

who's been beat down four years in a row? Like, do I go and like say something back? Who's the national champions? I can't remember. Do you really? Was it the Buckeyes? Is it? I think it was the Buckeyes last year.

Oh, Ryan Day. Oh. Leader of men. My goodness. Leader of men, Ryan Day, that's your guy. I mean. And also, you remind me a lot of a Ohio State fan that's on this bus right now

because you've mentioned three different schools. You were a Miami fan growing up, then you were over Cleveland Browns. I was in a Miami game growing up. Is this what every... Is it the hardest public school to get into? Ohio State fan is? It was the hardest school to get into

and I'm smart. You guys... And I was like, you know what? I'm going to the hardest school to get into and I went to J-Crew you. It's the Harvard of the Midwest, Miami of Ohio. I went there. It doesn't mean that I was a fan of the Red Hawks.

Okay? All right. I don't think anyone even goes to the Red Hawks games. No one's coming at you here. I'm just pointing something else. I feel like someone's coming at me. I feel like it's like this. You're 20%?

And I'm doing this. and this and diving through and sacking. Yeah. Ryan, was it Ryan, uh, Tannahill? Yeah, Ryan Tano, Marcus Marriota. That's what I'm doing. Charlie Whitehurst, Jake Locker had a lot of, had a lot of them. Let's get a quick tea, quick tea.

Let's bring it back in. Real quick. Because I, were you guys favorite in the last game, Michigan for Ohio State? I don't, I don't remember. Yeah, it was minus 20 and a half points. You guys were favored by in Columbus, Ohio. Do you know, like passing? how Michigan did last year?

No, I don't follow Michigan. We went to the settings and we turned it off. There's all, we only through more passing yards. The only schools we threw through more than were military schools. I thought people forgot about Michigan since Jim Harbaugh left. I didn't even think it was a school anymore. Well, Ohio State hasn't because you guys changed two laws because of them.

Two laws. Yeah. It's actually illegal to go to Columbus, Ohio and plan a flag and 50 yard line. I'm just hand in hand. I am just telling you the truth. Walking around skipping, aren't you? I'm just telling you the truth. Did they ban you from the you?

No. They ban you? I got in that. They ban you? I was in there, week one, Ohio State for seconds. You will be. You will be. Don't you worry.

I love that Ohio State's always good. I love that Ohio State's always good. And I'm glad Ohio State won the national championship last year. It's good you guys kept in the Big Ten. Yep, that's right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

How are you doing? So John Sina. Yeah. John Sina. The whole heel switch thing is he's still a heel? No, he's baby face now. Babyface now. How did that work out?

High level, upper management, the move to do John Cina. I don't know how that, I thought it created intrigue and interests because John was never a bad guy. Like, I mean, in the beginning of his career, he was a little bit. But I mean, for the 99% of his career, he's been the Uber baby. Even when people wanted him to change and go to a bad guy, he never did. And so I don't know. This is me speaking just on my mind and what I know as a WWE superstar. It creates intrigue.

it's like oh he's never done that maybe john wanted to do that because or maybe the the higher ups wanted to do that or it was just a collective unit where they were like let's try that but sometimes that happens right and you see what happens and i mean john can make anything work john is just that talented i mean you look at what he's able to do not only in wwe but in the movies i mean you watch if you watch peacemaker i mean that show is phenomenal so good it's the work ethic that John Cena has and he's he's parlayed to every person that he's come across like for me like my work ethic stems from what he has put upon me if that makes any sense yeah absolutely it obviously got a massive like uh what you call backlash whatever all the engagement in the world

yeah so no matter what you want it it's like okay people talk yeah if this is not the route we want to go we can switch course now but it's gotten everybody talk it had everybody talk so it was kind of cool because he did it and then it was like oh this is weird this is interesting but everyone's talking about it because it's John Cena and then when he changed back it created that much more like yes he's back our guys back for the next

four I mean what is it three months now we get him for three more months God it's crazy like every time I see him I go what six more days yeah six more that's it I'm wondering and now he's starting to use all the people that he's paying tribute to to all the people that he's wrestled

by using their finishing move inovers. Like I saw him use a GTS. I've seen him use pop-up power bomb from K.O. I'm like, I'm wondering when he's going to use a skull crushing finale. I mean, I did beat him in the main event of WrestleMania. Yeah, you got it. Have you mentioned to him? Show him the text?

Every day. Every time he sees me. I think I am the one person like that was the right move. And the only reason it was the right move is because if Cina would have beaten me, it would have been forgotten. Yeah. But I won't let you forget that. Right. And it will go on and on and on.

for life because how many people can say they main evented WrestleMania but not only Maineavetta WrestleMania as a bad guy won I think there's maybe two or three people that's awesome it's crazy and I'm that guy the kid from Parma Ohio you got to let them know every time Ohio State fan Miami fan Stanford fan Stanford I think you made that up we can go back you said something about Stanford you went to acting school there you went to MC school at Stanford University of Stanford University of University? Definitely didn't say that.

Did I? He'll know because he'll know. He's going to break down his state. He's going to break down his tape. And I'm going to want to text from you with DM saying you were right. No, there's no way. Do you guys heard Stanford, correct? Yes.

Was it Stanford Connecticut? Stanford, yeah, Stanford Connecticut. Stanford. Stanford. Stanford. Stanford. Stanford, Connecticut. There we go.

That's where I headquarters is. That's where the WWE headquarters is. Okay. So I went to Stanford. The only text they need out of you is, Just when as John is, as John seen is doing everybody else's signature moves, you shoot him a text. Can't wait to see mine. Oh, we've already talked about it.

Okay, good. I've already, I've already mentioned it to him a couple times. How was he receptive to the idea? Of course. I love that. John's always receptive to everything. Really? Yes.

First rule of improv. Say yes. Yeah. Oh, yes. Very good. You've went, you've been iOS. Oh, yeah. I've taken classes.

It's fun. I love it. Yeah. Absolutely love it. I know we can get you out here in a second. Five, ten poll events. You guys have added this six. How did this come about adding?

the sixth, Russell Paloza. I think making a big deal for actually what it is, moving our PLEs to the ESPN and finding something that kind of gravitates to ESPN that's theirs, right? And Russell Paloosa is it. It's in Indianapolis, which honestly is a great sports spot. It's actually a great city. It's a great city. And I don't think it gets enough.

I think McAfee does a great job in promoting it. I think the draft has done a great job in promoting it. But like, whenever we go there, the fans are a bad. and beyond. I mean, we were just there for Royal Rumble. We had 70,000 in Lucas Oil Stadium. And so now to bring Russell Palooza and have its entity come to Indianapolis for Russell Palouza, it's going to be lights out. I mean, it is going to be a show to be remembered. There will be moments to take. I mean, we always say this. Like this is our kind of thing. Like, you take away, like my job when I go in that ring is to create a moment that will last a lifetime. What I want is for families to be in the audience and to be able to talk about the experience they had, something happened in the ring, the Miz did. And the father and son or the father and daughter or the mother and daughter and son,

whatever it is, the family gets to talk about that moment. And whether it's me saying, hey, kid, this is your hero, there's your hero, there's your hero, or the hero being, oh, oh, oh, something along those lines. We create moments that last a lifetime. So you can't put price tags on those because those are the moments, those are the memories that we have with our kids, right? Like I went to the water park yesterday with my kids.

I will remember these. That is a memory I'll never forget. And I don't think my kids will either. Me lugging up their rafts, four stories on those freaking stairs and then them being scared and me like motivating them and being like, I know you're scared. You know, when I was your age,

I was scared too. But there's this is a moment that you can you don't have to go down it. But if you want to and you you wanted to down there, you want to up here, I promise you you're not going to get hurt. And then them going down and them jumping up and down in celebration that they did something. Like that is, I mean, I get goosebumps right now. That's it right there. My heart is filled with like love, right?

Because seeing them be scared of something and me being able to motivate them in not something dangerous, but something that, like, I know they can do. Right. And I know they just need to believe in themselves to do it. And so that's those father moments where you're like, ah, it's great. So that's what I want families to have, right? Like, not necessarily like that moment, but like a moment that they can talk about and share for the rest of their lives.

That's what Russell Palooza will do. That juices me up. Russell, September 20th. Yes, sir. ESPN, 7 p.m. Eastern time. All right, this is the last question before we get you out of here. We all know that anybody would do anything for a nice cold bud light. What is something you would do anything for?

You can't say family. We've had a lot of subjects on this show. What would I do for a bud light? What would you do anything for? We know people do anything for a bud light. But what would the Ms. do anything for? So obviously you'd do anything for your family. Yep.

I'd do anything for my wife. But that's family. We said no family. Can't do that. Can't say family. What do I do anything for? You know, I'd do anything for? Tell me.

Just to relax. Shit. Like my brain, like, and this can't happen, but just to shut down my brain. Just slow it down and sit and just relax and just, I don't know, watch football or watch something that my mind can just go at ease. Like I have a hard time relaxing. I'm never relaxed. I'm always on.

Pop, pop, pop, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. Whether it's dad, husband, job, work, everything. Boom, boom, boom, go, go, go. go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. And I feel like maybe you guys are the same way because this whole thing that you guys have going, not just bussin, but like your whole enterprise. It's a lot of work.

Yeah. Takes a lot of people to get that done and a lot of thinking. Then your family and your friends and everything. It's just to sit back and relax. You know what? Actually, I got a better one. Okay. Because I was actually going to do this with Ms. Golf with my dad. So my dad's going to be on Ms. Golf, right?

And you'll get to see why I am the way I am. because of the way my dad literally coaches me in golf and everything I do, even in wrestling, even though I'm a professional wrestling. I would give anything to have a dinner with my dad and just my dad. He will not do it because I will go, dad, I'll come home to Cleveland and I'll go, dad, let's just go to dinner. Okay, Mike, just me and you. Okay, I go to that dinner.

There's 45 people. And literally, I'm shaking hands, talking to people. these are all his friends he's proud right yeah but he just he doesn't get that I just want to hang out with him and it almost feels like do you not want to hang out with me right you you get what I'm saying like absolutely it's like but he sees it as he talks about me all the time and my friends and family all tell me you know he's so proud he talks about you all that doesn't tell me but he tells everybody else and so it's like hey Mike like yeah let's go have dinner 45 people show up. Don't worry about it. These are my buddies. Hey, this is my friend that I've been talking

you about. Oh, here's your other guy. Hey, nice to meet you. Bob, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, by the end of the night, it's late. All right, I got to go. We got to go. Didn't have that dinner. See what I'm saying? Yeah. So that would be it. Yeah. Especially because my dad's getting older and I read something. The internet is a crazy place, right? Once you start scrolling, man, you get sucked in. The grass that just got the amount of times you see them. I don't live in Cleveland. We all have the same algorithm. I don't live in Cleveland. I live in Las Vegas now. I'm going to see my dad how many times.

He's 70-something years old. How many times will I see him? Yeah. Rick, we'll see him. Twice a year. Twice a year? Yeah. Yeah.

If that. Average age is 76. So he's 72. Right. So you got to assume just a handth. Is he in good health? Well, he was. He just had cancer on his kidney.

But he got his kidney taken out. He didn't need to go through chemo or anything like that. So that's that. But he always tells me, he's like, I'm tired. I'm always tired. And I'm like, I'm trying to think, like, maybe are you sleeping enough? I'm sleeping enough. Are you eating?

Are you eating the right foods? He's like, I think so. Are you drinking enough water? Like, you're going through all the motions and all that stuff. It's like, how many? And so we're going to play golf, 18 holes. And he's like, well, I got a card game the day before, Mike. So I'm like, dad, can you not do the card?

game. He's like, yeah, but I'll be down, I'll be down 2.30. And I'm like, we're playing at 8.30 in the morning. So I'll be all right. I'm like, okay, dad. Okay. Yeah. All right. So we'll play 18 holes and see how that goes. But I think my bet is going to be if I win, he has to have dinner with me. But if he wins, I'll do an autograph signing for him, wherever, whenever. I love that. I think no matter what, we got to clip this for you. So that way, you can just, hey, dad, I was done talking to you. Listen to this fucking call. So here's what will happen. My family will send it to him. Oh,

don't worry about it, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's fine, though. Yeah. It's fine, guys. It's fine. It's fine. I'm with you, brother.

I hope you get that dinner. My dad had a WrestleMania moment, you know that? Did he really? Yes. My dad had a WrestleMania moment. I put him into a match at WrestleMania at MetLife Stadium, me versus Shane McMahon.

And I told him, If Shane starts beating me up, you will walk in the ring. And this is, so I told him to put up his dukes and he put him up like, like, like, this became a meme, by the way. Yeah. This is a meme. Like, it was the biggest most talked about picture. Like, look, look, look the way he's standing. Like, this is like, get a, like, this is art.

That's art. That's art. I told him put his ducs up. He puts up like a 1940s like boxer. Come on. Put him up. Put him up. So, so yeah, like he got in there.

And that became a viral moment, probably the most viral moment at that WrestleMania. And he's like, Mike, I was in the ring for five seconds. I became a viral moment. And you've been doing this for how long? Yeah. How many times have you gotten that big of a reaction? I'm like, oh, my God. Look at Lesnar.

That is awesome. That's actually not real. I know, I know. That's AI. He never got in the ring with Lesnar. Look at Brock Lesnar right there. Yeah. Look at Brack Lesnar right there.

He's got massive a man. Dude, we appreciate you come on the show. But we're excited to watch. I really love, like, your guys' story and your journey and everything that you guys have done. Like, your stories are incredible. And I love seeing this, this whole warehouse full of just your toys. Thank you. It's awesome, man.

You guys deserve it. You guys work hard. So I appreciate it. It's good. This is fun. Hey, now. Thank you guys. It's a long pod too.

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