Bussin' With The Boys - The NFL is RIGGED for the Chiefs + HARDY on Country Music Industry's New Direction

Episode Date: November 12, 2024

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and his seed yet again becoming victorious. Congratulations, brother. How do we feel? Girl dead for life, man. As you are listening to this episode, we will be at the hospital. We have a scheduled C-section.

We go in at like 8.30 in the morning. Should be coming probably within a couple hours, I guess with that. I don't have my hand on the pulse as much as I did with Rue. Baby number two. That's how it works. But we will be in it, bro. We will be in it.

Baby number two is coming. The family is growing. Family of three, not family of four, five counting a waffle. Shout out the pup waffle. Right now snuggled up on the couch. We've all forgotten about waffle,

but thank God we're still talking about her. Yeah. But yeah, man, girl dad through and through, bro. See me do that? He's going to smack my face with my own mic.

Dude, if you had a crystal ball in your hand right now, what do you think you're going to realize? like what do you think is it going to be like realizing you had more time with just rue is it going to be that how is it possible that i'm i love a kid this much as a much as i love ru like what do you think i think it's that one i think it's like going into it you know my wife charl and i like we sit down we're sad that the chapter with ru is over where we give rue all the attention and everything else and it's kind of like you kind of feel bad she doesn't know what's coming we've done our best to introduce her to this new baby but I think that's what it is it's like, you know, before we had Rue

and I was absolutely obsessed with Waffle and I would tell Waffle in her sweet little ears that like, hey, you're going to be my number one forever. Don't even worry about this. Don't even trip up this next baby. Obviously, I forgot about Waffle. Kids are a little bit different. It's not like I'll forget about Rue. Rue will be my number one. Could you imagine Waffle?

Yeah, I know. I know. But I think that's what it is. It's like you can't, people without kids, you can't conceptualize like, you know, the love, how your heart expands and you're able to love something way more than you love yourself, way more than everything, right? They're your number one over, you know,

I would say that Charles would say the same thing, like over your marriage, everything else, like your kid becomes your number one thing. Like the amount of love that we have for Roo that you have for your kids when it was win at first and then Willow comes. For me, it's like I don't know how to get my arms that I'm going to, I know I'm going to love the second kid, but it's like until it happens, I have no clue.

I think that's like what it is. Because we're bummed. We hit the coffee shop this morning. I'm like, hey, let's rip a selfie. It's going to be the last time we're a trio. And, yeah, I think I'm most excited about outside of having another daughter is, like, seeing Rue become a big sister. Yeah.

I think we're really fired up. We've tried our best to integrate her, integrate this new baby as much as possible with Roo, like talking to the belly. Rue shops for her, like when we go to the mall, we'll pick something out for her. She helped put together the baby room for her, like all these things to, like, get ready for baby number two ago. We also shout out the boy, Stephen Chey. he gave me a little bit of advice last week that we acted on.

But Charles was with Rue at the mall and Rue wanted these like Elsa, this Elsa jewelry. And we bought a gift for Rue that Rue doesn't know about. But whenever we bring the baby home, we're going to tell, we're going to tell Rue that it's from the baby. Like we're going to try to do all the things that just integrate Rue into this world. That was Stephen Jay's idea. Yeah, Stephen Jay's like, hey, here's the only piece of advice that we did for our, that we did with our second one from our first. Like when Rue comes into the, I saw this video. video on Instagram, shout out Instagram.

We know how we all love to consume content on Instagram. But I saw this video to where it's like when you introduce the first one to the baby of the second one, have somebody else like holding the baby when Rue comes in the hospital room. So that way mom doesn't have the baby. Rue can come in and say hi to mom, can come in and say hi to dad. We'll have our nanny there who will be holding the new baby. So that way you can introduce Rue to the baby.

But so that way it's like Rue doesn't come into the world of mom's holding the baby. That was kind of the whole stipulation on it. is like mom's holding the new baby. So in their brain, like their world, I don't know. It's all fascinating stuff. Yeah. We're trying everything to make sure we introduce Rue the right way. And yeah, dude, I think we're just going to be in the trenches.

You know, obviously sleep's going to be a big thing. You're going to have to feed this thing, what, seven, eight times a day. Yeah, they don't do a good job offending for themselves in the beginning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very difficult for them to go work through that process. Yeah, try to figure out how we time up the nap times, how we, you know, we spend time with Rue, how we spend time with the baby, how we get, try to get Rue involved as early as possible with it.

I think that's all the things. Those are what all of the conversations have been around with the second baby coming. I'll tell you this. When my oldest is a fantastic big sister and all the things you just said, we did none of them. So I think you're going to be all right. And I do want to brag on Rua a little bit because I've obviously known Rua since she's coming to this world. And the little girl she was like even six months ago, like a little more shy, a little more cautious, seeing her at the game the other day playing with J.P.

and then finally when JP went to the bathroom so I can get a little bit of time started playing with me. Yeah, JP's like her number one. Dude, JP is like all-time uncle right now with that damn kid. And but her confidence, she does a great job of saying what she wants,

articulating what she wants and not being nervous about like, hey, should I say this or say that? Like she's very like clear what she wants. She wants to have a good time and she has that energy of like great big sister energy. Yeah, yeah.

So it fires me up. It's one of those things like everybody's like, hey, what advice do you have for a new kid? And people say like, oh, don't take advice, don't do this. Like, I don't know. It's like I'm one of those cats where I like to hear advice from everybody, like taking as much information as possible and then grab parts where I'm like, hey, I kind of want to implement this and with this with this time around. So we'll see what happens. I like the gift idea. I know. I've never heard that before in my life.

Because I dropped that photo this morning of, hey, trio, we're about to be a, we're about to be growing to four. And somebody even in the comment section said that exact same idea that, hey, you should buy a gift for Rue and say it's from the baby when the baby comes. But yeah, shout out Stephen Chey. He kind of threw that one out there for me. I don't want to turn this into like a baby podcast, but I am interested in the C-section thing because, so they basically, they sedate Charo, obviously. Yeah.

So she's kind of loopy. She's out of it. Yeah. How long, do you guys know how long it's going to be before that kind of get her juices back? Is it kind of like when you get the nitrous gas, when you have the dentist and they take it off to fill a little oxygen, you're good in five minutes? Or does it take a little bit of a moment for Charo to get back to it? You're asking the wrong guy.

But the experience we had last time. So the reason we went C-section route this time was, you know, for people losing that pod back then, like, Charles had a, we had a, you know, you kind of write out like, you know, we were going into it. We had a doula. We're learning about, you know, Charles being pregnant. You're learning about what's to come, what to be prepared for when you're in the room and everything else. Like, we had a plan. Like she wanted as natural birth as possible. But like all plans, they all go to shit. Always. And when that happened, Charles was in labor for close to 50 hours. Like she didn't want an epidural. She ended up getting three epidurals because. one or two of them just didn't go right. Like one didn't work. So that was brutal. And she didn't come off like, I want to say like the four centimeter or four millimeter, whatever it is, four centimeter mark for hours. And to where she was just like, they were advising us.

And we were just like, let's just get a C-section after like 40-something hours of laboring. And so going into this one, I just think she didn't necessarily want to think about it. I think she's just like, let's just get one planned out. I've already done it once. She's already gone through that whole. process so let's just know what we're getting ourselves into yeah one thing i remember when charl had she charl had like a booklet of like her plan to have a baby and how it was all going to go and taylin was similar in some ways in the in the with the first child but really like everyone was telling like hey once you

have a plan just know that plan will be fucked yeah yeah you have no shot yeah and so when taylin i think till and i went to sedona when charl was in labor and came back and she was still in labor i know because you guys took me up with some food yeah we were just in that room for forever it was just not it was tough man it was tough on charro dude i remember seeing will going to drop off i think it was sushi we went to sunda for you and pick some sushi and just seeing this man it was like not even it wasn't even will it was just his body essentially moving around 40 hours like we're still and also a 50 hours of being in labor i'm sure you took a couple of naps had a guilt naps in one time yeah one time well we had a dula so it was like there'd be times where i'm helping i'm the one

saying an extra charon doing all that stuff and then the dula would and there was like charles like hey, go ahead and get you a nap. I was obviously like exhausted. She's exhausted too, but I'm like, hey, you know, okay, I get some Zs right now. Can I do something? It doesn't help if we're both hurting. It was the first time where she was like,

part of the plan when it was like, hey, let's just get an epidural. That'll probably help. Because again, she hadn't moved off like four centimeters for like 10 hours at this point. And we were in the tub. We were doing all the different stuff. And so they came in to do the epidural,

and then that's when I ended up falling asleep on the couch. Well, that epidural didn't work. And I wake up. and she's just in it. And I'm, you know, what's happening? What's this? What's that? Disoriented.

Yeah, I was out for like 90 minutes. Where's the burger? I thought I got ordered a burger. But, uh, yeah. Did you wake up to her, like, going through? Like, she was making noise. The noise she was making woke you up. There were some noise that I was sleeping through, some pain that I was sleeping through.

I know, bro. I know. I know. You made my burger? I know. I know. You made my burger? Hey, hey, hey, where's my bird?

Where's the burger? You took the burger? Josh screaming. I remember Talon's first contraction with Wynn. We had no idea when the stuff we were going to start. We were in Green Hills in the parking lot next to the place that is now Shake Shack. And Talen just like, unbuckled her seatbelt immediately and started panicking and going around the car. I'm like, yo, what are you doing?

She's like, I had never experienced that in my entire life. I was like, what was that? She goes, I think it was a contraction. I thought, oh, we are fucked. We don't say that chance, dude. I just ordered it. You feel like you can hang on for a little bit. But bro, women are crazy the way they can take that.

Yeah. Because after that first contraction, when the next one came, she ate it and then continue to eat it. And my whole thing with the epidural is, there's probably a whole bunch of science about how, oh, the baby this, maybe that. There are no medals when it comes to having a job. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There is no like, oh, you're a mom who did it with an epidural. You're a mom who did or did not.

It's like, it doesn't fucking matter. Get the thing out healthy. Yeah. And just take the path of least resistance the whole way through. And hats off to the women who were able to, you know, labor for only a few hours and it pops out fucking breathe it out you you want yeah but hey you want if you had the crystal ball you wanted to go a certain way but if you can't like once you experience that's a crazy thought but you're talking about the women they can just pop it out no problem it's like

what you know i mean i don't know what i mean i don't know what i don't know how cervix is working stuff like that oh yeah yeah i don't want to yeah yeah yeah but it's like you know the minute you experience the war room you realize like hey whatever women whatever path they want to take whatever path yeah it's a different animal when you're in those walls just think about like ricky bobby getting the brakes just getting slammed on like i know that's obviously a movie but think about people that actually deliver kids yeah like the dads are just like oh i'm gonna in the car yeah right now yeah i am not equipped i'm not i can't handle that i can't even change the oil in a car let alone deliver a child yeah that she'll keep the head up i know they just pop them things out

Back in the old days, they had litters like rabbits. They just fucking, hey, we'll have 10 of them. Hopefully six of them make it. And then I'm watching, it's either House of Dragon or Game of Thrones where they're sitting there laboring for days and days. And if it's not a boy, they're like pissed off. You don't know. Yeah.

That is crazy. I was talking to somebody last night about having boys, and I just thought, I don't know if I want one anymore. I don't know if I want to go down that road. Yeah, are you guys going to? I don't know. No, stop, stop, stuff, stuff, stop. Talk about your personal life right now.

I know, my personal life? Yeah. My personal life is I am. You're our only shot. No. What do you mean? Okay, you're right. But you know.

And also all of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who knows if any of the boys are getting busy? Yeah, if any of the boys are getting busy back there. But right now, as it stands with us, too, like, you're the only shot in the near future for a boy. Like, now that we're at the end of this pregnancy, you're kind of, it's kind of like how I thought with the first one. Like, before we even decided to have kids, we both were like, oh, I'd be sick to have two. three would be awesome.

And then you have the first one. And then you witness the labor, you experience the labor that Charles had. It's like, we might only have one. Who knows? It's going to be up to her. Like,

because they got to go through so much more than us. And then now that we're at the end of the second one, before we have the second one, it's like, okay, maybe, you know, maybe you go, we go for three,

maybe not. Yeah. Now that we're at the end of the second one, I can't even fathom like a third one coming in the picture right now. Right. Because literally just a few months ago, you were talking about quickly getting back on the horse

and getting a third one quickly. Exactly. Exactly. And so that's kind of where I'm always, I'm in a waiver point always. Right now where I stand, too. Now, we know we've noticed with the cat being in my life or Christmas lights in my house right now, I don't run my family. I don't do, I am not the pants wearing my family. So I could be having four.

I have no fuck. I have no clue what's going to happen in my life. That's the fun part about being married to Taylor. I don't get to decide. Right. We know right now we're wearing our girl dead hats. We're wearing our girl dad hats. but we got some boy mom merch like again.

Yeah. You're right now, you're the only shot in the near future. I just don't know. For the brand. My piece can do it. I don't know if it can. I don't.

Yeah. A couple in the middle let it drizzle. Wow. You heard Randall. I don't have that capability. Dude, my penis has never taken directions. It's been a straightforward type of deal the whole time.

Just jab, jab for a couple of minutes. When Cobb, when Cobb was talking about taking direction, I'm like, I thought there was just one lane. Yeah. On one straight lane. He's talking about left.

right? That's just crazy to me. Shout out Randall Cobb's piece, dude. Yeah, shout out Ramonk's piece. Having all them boys that he's had. That is just crazy. They are. There's no doubt about it. Yeah. And I would kind of, like, I thought I wouldn't, but I would be a psycho athlete dad, I think. I think I would fall into that trap a little bit, not like baby Grong's dad, not like Ball's Dad. But there would be a piece of me.

Like, you're old man. Yeah. Yeah. I probably would be like Dave a little bit. Yeah. I would be like Dave, a little. bit. Not all the way. I mean, you want them to be better than you.

Yeah. That's the expectation that gets placed on. That's a dull order, boy. So listen, I don't want to, we're not bump a tires out here,

but that's a tall fucking order. Right? I mean, imagine you had a boy. Ten years in the NFL. I mean. You want him to get the full 10. Complete the legacy. Imagine if you had a,

yeah. Imagine if you had a boy at nine and he was in year nine in the NFL and he's like that. I'm thinking about hanging up. Buddy. No. No.

A piece of you'd be like, we could be the same. We could be the same. Yeah, true. I don't know. Yeah, but anyway. Anyway, man. Yeah, we do got merch. Oh, yeah.

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Will, it's going to do it again. It's going to fall. Just get it closer. Just get it closer to you or farther away from anything. I don't even know what this says. Dude, matter of fact, yeah, this simple, simple little pocketty on the front. When you turn it around to the back, thank you, Sher. When you turn it around to the back,

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Why? I just can't, bro. I just, I can't. But hats off to them. Like, they have won every which way possible. They've won by comebacks. They know how to win in the fourth quarter. They know how to win with like 20 seconds left on the clock.

They know how to win in overtime. They know how to win when the ball is in the 25-yard line with an easy layup field goal. It blocked that motherfucker. Blocked it. Took the tight end, put him on his ass. Dumbed. And binked that thing.

Bro. They win every which way imaginable. And you know when you're on that sideline, like the game's even close in the fourth quarter. You're sitting there and you're like, something's going to shake for us. We're going to make a play somehow. Everybody on that team. No fucking doubt about it, dude. It is just crazy.

And to be the tight end. First off, we've said it on this podcast before, being a tight end on field goal is the worst position in football. yet three guys, no pause, no ditty, coming down your face. You do not stand a chance. And if you're the left tight M and you're on the right hash, just know you're about to have a stinger and you might break your leg. Because it is the worst possible position in the world. And you have to get low. You have to throw that leg back.

It's so difficult. And this poor bastard for the Denver Broncos gets mowed over. Like it's a five-star athlete playing against 160 pound off its alignment. is just absolutely brutal. I mean, shout out the Chiefs. But their day will fucking come. Will it? They're 9-0.

I know. Patcher-Holms. I remember I remember I shot Big Cat a text when it was 14 to 3. Because on Pro Football Football Show, by the way, I did take Broncos plus seven and a half. So my bet hit no matter what. But my hot take was that the Broncos are going to shock the world and win by 10 plus.

And at 14 and 3, it was looking nice. It was looking good. Isn't it crazy? I remember shooting them the eyes. Like, hey, Chiefs out of here. Whenever you shoot a text to your boys, when things are going your way before the game's over,

it always goes the other way. I know. Even when I said it, I'm like, well, this is probably going to fucking turn around. Yeah, 100%. It's just absolutely brutal. If you were looking for sports stuff, always we have the locker room that comes out Thursday at 6 a.m.

A couple ones, you got the, you took the Broncos. One I took Patriots Money Line versus the Chicago Bears. Obviously, that one worked out really well for us. So all that stuff will be out there every single week during the football season. Dude, if I would have just went even farther, I was thinking about this commanders games. You watched Commander Steelers. Yeah, I watched it.

So even when the Chiefs came in and that one was crazy, you turn it, flip it over to Steelers commanders, that one was crazy as well. And on the locker room, I was like, I think it's going to come down to the fourth quarter. I might have said last year, I don't know if I did, but I was like, this is a better coach football team than the Bears in the fourth quarter. And literally, same camera angle, same drive. Jane Daniels around the 50 driving in. and the Steelers, bro, Russell Wilson,

throwing that dime off of his back foot for that touchdown to go ahead. To Mike Williams. To Mike Williams. Right, who just got there with a small package. You know he is on cloud nine leaving that abysmal dumpster fire of the New York Jets. I mean, that's, that is what's going on. Yeah. I had Aaron Rogers.

I had to start him. Jordan Love was out with the biweek. Aaron Rogers moves into my next lot, next man up mentality. Aaron Rogers gives me one point. one point in fantasy. God, in that team, like I won,

I bought into the Jets. I love the comeback stories. I love when somebody's just doubt. And even though the way Aaron carries himself, you can see where people love them, you hate him, whatever. But I love just like buying into that fantasy.

Like, what if he does, just come in and change it around? Pops was Achilles last year. He comes back around this year. He's saying all the words that's like, okay, you would love to see this future Hall of Famer,

first ballot Hall of Famer. Just come back and do it, bro. They drop some early. get Devante Adams in a trade. Like, they suck, man. Like, it's over. It's over. It's over.

It's over for Aaron Rogers. Whoa. Forever? Maybe that's the gas he needs. Maybe that's the motivation he needs. But right now, where I stand. Clip it. Where I stand, it seemed like it's over.

It seems like it's just over. You know, man, I hate it hearing everything you just said. I hate it saying it because I'm a fan. I'm a fan. Yeah. He is the man, dude. Let's get back to the Steelers. quick. Shout out Arthur Smith.

Yeah. For taking Russell Wilson, who essentially seemed broken after he left the Seahawks, goes to the Broncos, tell everybody's going to cook, he's got his danger which, he's Mr. Unlimited, and then he absolutely shits the bed in Mile High City, then gets sent over the Steelers. He's in a quarterback battle. And now Arthur Smith has done an amazing job of resurrecting Russell Wilson's career. And I think that man should get another head coaching job. And it just speaks with Tomlin, too. The plan, the plan, too, with Arthur and Tom. and the whole Russell Wilson stuff. But when he came to the Steelers, obviously they also got Justin Fields.

But part of that plan was like, hey, let's eliminate, let's handle some of these distractions off the field. Let's lay low. Let's just focus on ball, which he's done. And bro, he's playing well. Steelers, Steelers are a weapon. They can be a problem. They get in the playoffs.

They can make it run. They have an elite defense. Russell is going to continue to get better and better. Pickens love watching him play. You see him on that intersection. Oh, yes. Just jump and just grab a dude. Tokeslammed his ass.

You got it. He's fucking hilarious. I think JeeP tweeted about like just backyard football dude just... Yeah. And that is what it is too. You got two guys started

getting a little chippy with each other that's always going to happen. Yeah. Always. One thing that worries me about the Steelers is, is it High Smith? Yeah.

High Smith. Catching that ankle. Now it didn't look like a broker or anything like that. He didn't seem like a real nasty twist. Hopefully that's the case. But they did trade for Preston Smith. I know.

They've gotten... I just... I'm not... I'm not sold on Preston Smith. It's not like he has to be the guy. They got the guy in TJ Y. Yes, but you need a guy. And even the backup for Highsmith, when he came into play,

I'm losing his name right now, but he played well in a Highsmith's absence. Having Highsmith on the other side of TJ Waugh is such a critical thing for a defense like the Steelers because with his level of play that he has on the left side of the line, you have to now focus on both of them. You can throw chips both times. But with him being out,

you can now put more focus on TJ with more slides, more chips. You'll never stop T.J. Bro, I don't know if you can stop T.J. I don't think you'll ever stop that man. Thank God for my career that I only played him as rookie year. That's all, I mean, that's all I have to say, because that dude is a fucking wrecking machine. He is. He is out of control the way he's able to play that consistently, that much power, that much speed.

It's so impressive. It is so impressive. Because originally you thought when he got in the league, it was like, oh, JJ Watts's brother. He's going to have the pedigree. That's what he was going to get drafted. When I played him, I was like, okay, obviously not as good as his brother. And now this kid is just doing things that, you know, he's going to be a Hall of Famer. Yeah, no.

He's going to be a Hall of Famer again. But with, I keep messing up the name, Highsmith. Yep. With Highsmith being out, I bet you're able to put more focus on TJ, which is a bit of a worry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he'll get rolling.

I feel like the Steelers, my friend Austin, he was on it early. But he's like, I think the Steelers have the most value. for a futures bet on the Super Bowl just because of how they're built. Might have to just get in on that. We've got to jump on the Draft King Sportsbook and see what that future is. Let's see what that boy's looking like.

Yeah, dude, the Steelers are... That's a fiery squad. No game was better than the Thursday night game, though. I mean, this entire weekend... I mean, you're right, but this entire weekend was awesome. Dude, who was at Houston and the Lions? Houston, Detroit was incredible. Bro, Detroit, Jared Gough

threw five fucking interceptions And by the time I went to bed They were only down 10 It was second 30 I jumped on the I jumped on draft kings Took a money line It was like plus 150 at the time

Just thinking to myself Okay, they just threw five picks It's second 30 It seems like they're gonna get the ball back With time like they might be able to pull this off Yes And wake up in the morning And they fucking win the game

With five turnovers bro Incredible Five and the kicker Who had the game winning kick That literally went in by just a hair by just a hair they were given his little backstory

before he gave that game winning kick kid was a soccer player and then became like a kickoff specialist and had a very unique way of getting to the league and now he is sitting in an away game

with the lions and kicks that kick to win the game it's it's that's the kind of story you want to fucking see you do bro the lions are a juggerna the lions are the team that can unseat the chiefs

and I know that the Texans kind of have their they have their reasons why they're just a little bit above average right now. So coming into this season, you think like this is a team who's going to make a big run because of the year that they had last year. But against a team like the Texas to turn the ball over five times and still win a game is crazy. Crazy.

They've just been handling business. Do what? Coaching stuff is insane. Yeah. You get Taylor Decker out of the game. You obviously saw with Skipper in there at left tackle. There was a lot more penetration on golf. Really messed him up.

Goff had two interceptions all season until this game. It's just, it's crazy. And what, Houston didn't score another point in the second half, right? No. That is just crazy. Start up that drive with a pick. And then another pick as they're going down to score in the red zone. And you got to feel, if you're that team, you're up.

You score 23 points in the first half without your number, your two receivers in there. You're only playing with Tank Dell, Joe, Joe Mixing. You're throwing it around there. Like, you got to feel so good about the second half of that game, dude. And people thinking about the Steelers future odds to win the Super Bowl right now, it's, it's 22 to 1. that's how you'd say that right plus 2200 I might have to do that just throw a little bit on it you never know

you fucking you fucking you never know there's a lot of great football teams now we're talking about field goal kickers San Fran who's a moody Jake Moody he was having a tough he was having a tough he was in there was he back yeah that's right he was having a tough day till he wasn't having a yeah

a tough day till he wasn't oh you talk about a tough day Debo just grabbing the throat or mushing the long snapper yeah and I'll do you listen Debo is like just, he's like, he's built like Michael Chandler. He's just a pit bull. Like you look at him like, oh, this, you just built different airbous. Chokes out the long snapper and the long snapper doesn't fucking back down,

gets in his face a little bit. Yeah. I like it. It was spicy over there. It was spicy. Yeah. That's one where you don't know if they just go down on the tank. Obviously, they come back and win the game, which is a positive thing.

It's like, all right, just boys being boys, a little brotherhood over there. But, I mean, that was just so, so disrespect. I don't even see it. I don't know. It was high. It was high. It was high. Yeah.

That's what Deboza doing? It's crazy. I mean, yeah, that is nuts. People aren't going to talk about it. Like, that was a great game. And obviously the 49ers win. People are not talking about enough, Baker Mayfield,

stiff-arming Nick Bosa. Stick on a, what was it, a T.E. G.E. gets it, holds his ass off. And Nick Bosa built like G. G.I. Joe, dude. built like a fucking action figure. And then gets that thing out, no problem. Just absolutely nuts.

Yeah, coming off the election. Now, if you took the problem, Bosa, that has a sack. you did get that. But yeah, you step on Mosa coming off the election, like, that's a highlight. Yeah. And Baker's been balling. It kind of sucks that the bucks are in the spot that they're in without Mike Evans and Chris Godwin

because he's been playing his balls off, man. Yeah. That is one of my favorite stories is Baker Mayfield, dude. Like having the career he's had, being the first overall pick, all that stuff, and then still doing it. Still doing it and resurrecting his career. I feel like that's my key word of this podcast is resurrection. You brought up taking a Lions Money Line.

I did the same thing in our group chat when I heard whispers about Georgia being down against Ole Miss. So I went into Georgia. You know what? I did the same thing. I lost that one of the Loss. Just fucking heartbreaking, dude. You look at it, you're like, yeah,

they are going to come back and win it. And you go and like, I didn't watch that game, but I checked back in. Obviously, it didn't go the way. Mine was pure emotion. I was angry when I went in. I'd be like, all right, they're going to come back and fucking win this thing.

What were you mad about? Iowa State, their defense let me down against Kansas. And I was watching that. And they were almost like coming back. Like they were making it spicy there in the end. But that quarterback for Kansas was just playing his balls off, man. But the Iowa State defense was letting me down. I check in on the Georgia Ole Miss game.

And it's like that was an angry. They're going to get back here. Moneyline live bet what you want. Your emotions affected my bank. Yeah. That's okay. Yeah. We'll be all right.

We're going to be all right through that. Carson Beck, man. I know. Playing like he looks right now, man. I tell you what, I know we're talking about college. Before we jump into the college, you were talking about the best game, the best game of the week being the uh the bangles yeah and ravens that was incredible to watch and j p we do have our uh fantasy league going on right now congrats to you having jama chase he put up

like 55 points in fantasy shout out jp he was going nuts bro yeah man that is that's pretty well it's just the ravens going down the field and scoring and then two plays later joe burrow just to jimar jase yeah just fucking crazy i know i know another one you feel bad for Joe Burrow like he's been playing at an MVP level and the Bengals just can't get those can't protect him dude the amount of hits this kid is taking is just crazy people I was I don't know who was saying it but someone was talking about Joe Burrow might want to get traded because he's just not being protected yeah dude that I ain't no Bengals ain't getting rid of Joe Burr no shot little you have to put a gun to the GM's head you talking about you talking about

quarterback's taking a hit did you see fucking Kyler Murray no oh bro hold that clip up for me let me take a peek at that Quincy Williams right 56 for the Jets comes off the edge comes off the edge I'm talking this is like old school

throwback comes off the edge of the left side Kyle Murray doesn't see him and his helmet goes like fucking 20 yards check this out watch this get the internet going here

here we go check this out oh just a free runner two plays later throws a TD no way two plays later

throws a TD beautiful ball I mean gets murder that is Arizona's been playing good, man. Yeah. Cooper Comstock, a graphic designer, he's big into Call Duty as well.

He says, who is also an Arizona Cardinals fan. He's saying that Kyler Murray is 3-0 since Call-Duty dropped. Dude. That's a kind of stats you're looking for when you come to bustle with the boys. Yeah, yeah. Maybe, man, maybe that was the answer the entire time.

He's been playing good, bro. Cardinals are sneaky tough. It's one where they win, I know for me, I'll just, I guess this is my brain. But they win a game and I'm thinking they're streaky, they're going to fall off at some point. They're streaky. They're going to fall off at some point.

But they've been handling business weekend and weekend. Yes. Yes, dude. I'm excited to see if the Cardinals. And shout at Arizona, dude. The fair weather fans are starting to get juiced up a little bit out there in Arizona. I might jump on the southwest. You jump on.

I might jump on the bandwagon. Yeah? I mean, they got, yeah. I might jump on the bandwagon. Yeah. I was going to say they had their game this week, but they have a buy this week. Yeah. Right now.

Right now in the NFL, who would you say is leading MVP race? I mean, you got to kind of say Lamar, right? Yeah. Josh Allen, Lamar, obviously. Well, we got Kansas City Buffalo coming up, yeah? This weekend, that's going to be a hell of a game. Somehow. I bet actually the bills win that game.

Because Bill's usually win the regular season, and then they meet again in the playoffs. Yeah, and the Chiefs win the playoffs. Dude, yeah, Lamar. Yeah, you got Lamar leading it plus 100. Like, he had 23 touchdowns last year, and he won the MVP. He's got 23 right now. Yeah.

that's that's fucking nuts dude it's crazy to me that Mahomes is number three I do get it though they're undefeated just because his stat line is nowhere close to these other cats bro is Derek up there no no it's not up there you got Mahomes plus 750 Jalen Hertz plus 1 ciler murray plus 1 500 Joe Burrow 20 to 1 jane daniels 20 to 1 golf I'm sure he's going to drop a little bit since he just threw five picks yeah my dad is plus 5,000 1,000 percent the back this last part of the year is going to obviously decide all of it. They need to stay healthy. Yeah, they do.

What Brian Kelly say, October's for pretenders, November's for contenders? Brian Kelly can suck this dig. That's a Garrett Hargis, Alabama fan. Legit, I don't think there's more of a unique, like, oil and water mix than Brian Kelly and LSU. Yeah. Culturally. We can transition to college football. We should.

We should. We should talk about the Bears. The Bears. dead done done done and i hate it for big cat yeah caleb williams sacked nine times i want to say adam shepter sent him into the gulag by ratio on him last week i i guess him and justin fields have very similar stats and their first amount of starts for the bears but the bears are they're done dead cowboys are they tanking they're in a shit they have a shit show hey and help me out like i haven't followed the cowboys that closely all year um why isn't trey lye

Lance the backup QB. Like, why is it Cooper Rush over Trey Lance? I saw him go in because Cooper just wasn't playing well. But when I saw him playing, I'm thinking to myself, why wasn't he the guy the backup to begin with? I don't know, like, the correct answer on it. My only guess would be Rush has been with the Cowboys for like four or five years now, whereas Lance just got there.

So maybe. He's been there. Yeah. When he was in the first year, when Qura Rush played last year, I think he went like four and in the games he started. So that's a confidence. That's a better stat. That's a better stat.

Just because you're there longer, doesn't mean you're going to play. I mean, but if you start four and no, that's good. If your dad Prescott, too, you sign that deal, you get the hamstring and he elects to get the hamstring surgery, smart move. It's a smart move. Get out. Get out. Take it. Let's get the renew.

Enjoy the holidays. Let's get the new coaching staff in after the season's over. Let's re, let's figure out what's going on all around. You saw CD Lamb, he dropped a touchdown pass to direct sunlight. And that's been a common theme. I will say I have had experience. Jason Witten caught one on your boy. Let's just, I'll just go and say he probably would have caught it anyway.

Don't do that. No, no, no, don't say that. I know, but everybody's going to be, oh, whoa, whoa, we're with the excuses, blah, blah, blah. Dude, that sunlight is fucking crazy. I had him. I was like, I think we were in cover four and I was a three player, so I was off, Jason went. But I remember just airing on the side of being like high because I just, you can't see when you look back.

And then when they throw it and when he threw it and caught it, I'm almost just seeing his silhouette because you can't see anything. on the offensive side. That sunlight, I swear to God, it is brutal. Yeah. Jason saw it. Yeah, great catch by Jason. Fun fact about Jason Whitten, his 1,000th catch was on your boy. For real?

Yeah. Shout to Jason Winton. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We need that ball. At Washington, and I knew when he caught it and everything, I was like, oh, that's a thousand catch. Like, that's history. Was it the first catch of the day?

He's needed one more or what? I'm not sure. Yeah, I'll let him have it. You know, I let him have it. I knew he's getting long in the tooth. Yeah, yeah, history. I had to make sure he got that ball. I had to make sure he got it.

Dude, yeah, I mean, and, Sherman, you were saying that C.D. Lamb went to Jerry Jones and was like, hey, you got to put some curtains or something on there? Yeah. And Jerry Jones said, no. Yeah. Well, there you know. Jerry Jones said where, you know, you know where the sun is. Where's the moon?

He said some shit like that. And then C.D. Lamb drops a wide open touchdown pass in the end zone. And sun's directly in his eyes. And he even turned to his teammates and was like, I didn't see a. thing. Yeah, I swear that is real. You can't see shit. We have had a lot of contender talk. If it's in the right spot, yeah. We've had a lot of contender talk on this podcast. What about the Eagles?

How do you feel about them? I think the Eagles have an extremely talented team. Obviously, they're going to go to the playoffs, but they're going to lose in the playoffs because of a situational ball, and I think they'll just get out-coached. It's all going to be Syriani's fault. Yeah. Oh, Mitch, out on Siriani. I think a lot

of people are. I think a lot of people know that it's going to happen. A lot of Philly people are out on Siriani and like that's the biggest question mark around them is their team's really good. Yeah. And they're going to be happy every week when they win, but the moment they lose, they're going to get out coached. Yeah. Gotta be the hardest place to play in the NFL. For sure. Yeah, Philly is just psychotic with their, with their football. Bring up that game time. Bring up that game time, Shroom. As we transition in a, as we transition in a college football, football season is here.

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What time is it? Daytime! Hey, brother. Let's just start. Let's just start with us. Yeah. Let's just start with us. We're both in it.

going down to that seventh line right there. Sherman, who does a pre-production meeting every single day, he put a little note says, are Michigan and Nebraska bowling this year? I'd like to think we are. 100%. I think the PTSD that's coming on top of me right now, which it was last week,

is the fact that we got the five games. We were five and three last year, and then we lost out on games that were very winnable. And you have a tough schedule at the end. It's not, it's tough. It's definitely tough when all of this is happening, but there's still, we're in the same situation

where these are winnable games to where we could go bowling, I just have no fucking clue. I want the best. Everybody knows I want the best for Nebraska. Trust me, I'm taking as a... I think we're 8.5.5 underdogs against USC. That's, to me, that's a steal. We're going to get that.

I just don't know if we get the money line part. You know what I mean? I don't know if we get the W part. God, you know, that motherfucker who put the graphic of us losing the biweek. That was psychotic. That was crazy. Yeah, I know. Yeah.

But I don't know. we got USC, we got Wisconsin, we got Iowa. Yeah, we got Northwestern in Ohio State. I believe too. I just, for the people, for the cloud that is over us, the cloud that is over us, you can obviously see how we drop these motherfuckers. However, we've made some, we've made some adjustments during the By-Weak. We've done a lot of self-scouting.

We brought in that offensive genius guru. They're calling him the offensive Yoda coming from the University of Houston. He's coming in and kind of giving his objective opinion, seeing it from afar. We've made some changes. You just need the boys to show up this week. Locked in, ready to fucking go. We got to beat USC. We got to beat the Trojus.

Got to beat the Trojus. And if not USC, it's got to be Wisconsin. It's got to be Wisconsin. It's got to be Wisconsin. It's got to battle for the border. The battle for the border. Yeah, three shots. To be great.

Is there a world where we see a bussen ball postseason matchup? I don't think they'll put two big 10 teams in a bowl game. It would be elite though. That would be six. Music City Bowl. You sing that out. The Twinkle start. to come to my eye like oh yeah and then day was like you had two big 10 teams it's like yeah he's

right yeah probably not probably not but we would love to see it y'all have influence this is where the committee if we had if we had a set bowl and we got to pick our teams of course yeah if coach ball playoff get us on the committee let us just decide our bowl game if both teams end up six and six it's like yeah just give us what we want yeah yeah yeah yeah out here in nashville out here in nashville yeah we got to have the bus on the sideline yeah look listen we we we it's time it's time for come to Jesus with Michigan. Like, you could look at that last game of the year,

and you could probably expect us to lose that one. Yeah. It just is, was very proud of the way the boys fought against Indiana. Proud. You guys, proud of the way they fought. You guys did put up a fight.

What was it? What was it? 173 and a half? Yeah, 173 and a half came back in a big way. And, dude, we had every opportunity in the world to win that game. I know, man. But it really just turned into we could not push the ball

down the field vertically. It is, it's infuriated. literally so infuriating that night I got in Bryce Underwood's DMs and I said what do I got to do to get you to Michigan sincerely Taylor-Lawan I'll tell you what I need that boy to come Dave Porter is saying he's he's on and he's working like I know that's a guy he's identified and now you learn that that Stallions is his one-on-one coach right now

who's one-on-one coach Connor Stallions is like mentoring he said yeah joined his high school team and he is like his coach he's a quarterback coach Good. Some other fuckers. That's exactly what we need right now. I literally caught myself watching a high school players highlight tape this weekend. Kid can ball. Kid can ball.

Strong athletic, dual threat. Staling it down the field. Accuracy. He's got it all. He's got it all. I'm pretty sure the kids from Michigan, right? Detroit. He's from Detroit.

Like, bro, come home. Come home. He's been committed to LSU since like January 7th. We can flip that, dude. I mean, the way LSU's been losing these games, it's definitely possible. BK.A.N. I'm just saying we get him. We can do this.

Now, our biggest hope for a bowl game is Northwestern. And Northwestern can get frisky every now and then. Yeah, every now and then. Click on them, click on them. I want to see their schedule. Don't catch Northwestern overseas. Don't get, yeah, don't get Northwestern on international soil. Where's that game at?

Or is that game at. Where's that game at? I mean, bro. They beat Maryland 37 to 10. Yeah, Wisconsin. They beat them 23 to 3. Iowa beat them 40 to 14. Eastern Illinois.

They put them in a body bag. They put them in a coffin, 31-7. All right, bro. Get out of there. Listen. This is going to be probably, Michigan's going to be favored by like three and a half in this game.

And you know what? All in it is the win by one. Just need a win. All you need is a win by one. Just win by one. I'm not 100% but I'm 95% sure I'm taking my oldest win. I'm taking a win to that game. I was going to take her to Oregon,

but I was like, she's starting to understand. She's starting to understand football. She sees when Michigan's on the TV. She says go blue and I was like, I can't let her first football experience. Yeah. Need her to get a win.

When Dan Lanning sent me cry laughing faces, I knew I was in a blender right then and there. We knew we were in big, big trouble. Dude, I tell you what, I think Oregon and Indiana are going to be playing in the Big Ten title. game. But we need, hey, here's a nasty thought. Let's say they beat Ohio State.

They're going to go to the Big Ten title game, play Oregon. Somebody's obviously going to lose, but I think you're going to see Oregon, Indiana, and probably Penn State getting the playoff. You don't think I have to Ohio. I don't think they will with two losses. I know they beat Penn State. Possibly three. But Penn State.

Possibly three, too, Mitch. Right. But if Penn State wins out, they're only going to be a one-lost team and that loss is going to be to Ohio State, which came down in the fourth quarter. But I think if Ohio State, if Ohio State, loses to Indiana, Ohio State's going to be a two-lost team on the outside looking in. And I think Penn State gets in over Ohio State. That's fair.

I do have the ultimate spin zone for Taylor. If Northwestern beats Michigan, Michigan has an opportunity to both become bowl eligible and ruin Ohio State's season with that last game of the year. That would be iconic. That would be unbelievable. That's beautiful. But let's just beat Northwestern. Let's beat Northwestern.

But we still have that. Right. Because if they beat Northwestern and Ohio State still beat. Indiana they could still do this they'll be in the same exact spot yeah i i ain't saying this and i am i am fighting against myself a little bit but did indiana indiana indiana playing michigan was that a trap game for indiana because we're playing o'clock state this week possibly right there as we're talking i'm like oh my god is that where we've gotten to is that where we've gotten here just this year just this just this you guys are coming off a natty you still got the ring

Obviously, you guys are going all in on this quarterback that's committed to LSU. You guys are going to be, it's a $10 million deal. You guys are going to be pumping money. I was finding myself on the on-3 site and kind of looking at NIL, like, per player in recruiting class. Like, you guys are top 10, so you guys are starting to spend money. Yeah, we're going to spend like 90,000 per. I want to say Ohio State's at like 93 or 94. Just FYI.

Yeah, we got to get them, man. You guys will be back. We got to get them. We'll be back. We'll be back. We'll be back. Toughier. Toughier.

Tough year. The SEC is what's going to be fun. Watch unfold. Yeah. JP, I've tried doing a lot of mental gymnastics on Seattle, South Carolina. I just don't think it happens. It's all right, though. It's okay.

I'll tell you who's been flying under the radar is old Tennessee, it feels like. With all these teams that get talked about in the SEC, but Tennessee is a one-lost team. They got Georgia. You guys can just knock Georgia all the way out of it this week. Or it's going to become the most just up in the air. There's not going to be five SC teams in the playoff. We know that it'll be Texas Alabama.

Well, I don't know. Texas is kind of having. as a tougher schedule of all the teams that are, you know, a lost, two lost teams. I don't know. I feel like Texas has kind of had like a pretty easy walk. Like their schedule is really not that hard. They played like two. Yeah, because at the time we thought Michigan was going to be a big one.

True. Their biggest, yeah. They have A&M last game of the year. Yeah. Who do they have? They have Arkansas, Kentucky, and A&M. I mean, they handle Florida. Arkansas and Kentucky are known to get a little.

get a little crazy. They're known to be a wild card. Arkansas and A&M, yeah. Arkansas is a huge rivalry game that hasn't been played in years, except for the same with A&M. Arkansas is sneaky. They just have weird games that just blow up. So Texas obviously handled Florida, which isn't saying much, but I just saw the stat. The entire state of Florida between college and NFL this week went 0 and 11. and I know it's Tuesday, but Monday night, Miami Dolphins have a redemption shot to not go completely, like, winless.

Oh my God. So, I know it's not like a massive win, like dummy in Florida like that, but Florida was playing okay. Yeah. Like that was when I stayed away from gambling-wise because you just don't know with Texas. But they handled their ass, bro. So I have a question. If Georgia beats Tennessee this week. Bring up the standings for the SEC, Sherman.

Well, he asks this. Who's going to the SEC championship? Say we go, Alabama goes, and we lose. And we lose. Do we miss on the playoff by having a third loss but going to the SEC championship? Like, you almost don't want to go, which sounds so. If Tennessee wins, I think, if Tennessee wins and you got, well, you would need Texas to lose too. What do you mean?

Texas is going. but if Texas loses the A&M, right, would they still get in over Bama? Yeah, I mean, multiple things could happen. Because A&M right now, seven and two, say they went out, right? There'll be a two-lost team. Right. Alabama wins out, that's a two-loss team. Texas is a two-lost team.

Obviously, the A-NM's got the head-to-head-to-head-over now. Yeah, because if you say you guys went to the SEC championship, it's you guys versus Tennessee, and you're crazy. Lost to Tennessee, you'd be out of it. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Only potential for two one-loss teams.

Yeah, it's crazy. But Texas could drop another. Because in this hypothetical, we're saying Tennessee beats Georgia. Georgia will be out of it. I think Ole Miss, they have an easy schedule their last few, yeah? I think when I was looking, they have an easier schedule. Ole Miss has, yeah, Florida and Mississippi State. So they take care of those.

Like, they'll be up there. Go back to the standings. You'll have Tennessee. It comes down. A&M and Texas, let's just say Texas wins since they're a one lost team. But you'll have Tennessee and Texas in the championship. Both of them will go to the playoff. Ole Miss will be a two-loss team on the outside looking in.

So, Alabama, both of you guys will go to the playoff. And Missou does not have a tough end of the year. Mazu's a two-loss team right now, and they have... Yeah, which, yeah, okay. South Carolina. You got South Carolina, you got Mississippi State, and then you got Arkansas. But say they were to beat you guys, you'd have another. two lost team with Bama, you would have a lot of chaos going in that college well

playoff. It's hard to think about LSU. Are they handling business? Yeah, they're three and two. They're three and two in division. No, they're six and three. They just lost. Yeah, they lost.

Yeah, they lost. So they're out. So they're out. Yeah, yeah. That was an elimination game. They're out. But you'd have Mizzou, O Miss, Alabama. A&M, Tennessee.

Well, if A&M loses to Texas, they'll be a three loss. They'll be out. But those three out, Alabama, Ole Miss, Missouri, two, lost teams, Tennessee and Texas, they'll be in. You'll be scrapping for, I mean, is there a world where five teams go from the SEC? It's possible. Missouri's not going over. LSU has three losses. They lost the USC, right? Yeah, and they lost the USC, right? But they have three losses. But that doesn't. Oh, we're talking about college football playoff. Playoff. Yeah, yeah. Oh, no, no, no. like two loss.

No. Because he couldn't get to. I mean it could, but they need a lot. They're like one of those teams that need a lot of things to happen for them to like sneak in that scenario. Yeah. You're going to pull up the bracket. David one. This weekend locker room's got to be Tennessee, Georgia.

Oh, yeah. Got to be. Is Nico going to play? Yeah. Yo, I flipped on the Boise State game for literally three minutes. And right when I turned it on like Ashton Gentie popped one all the way to like the goal line. Kids incredible. He's awesome.

And they're sitting right there. sitting at 12. I don't know where they're at now, but I would love to see Boise State make it. They got to be in, right? What's the rest of their schedule? Do they play anybody? I mean, I don't know, but you want that dude in the play. Yeah, and I want him to get the single season record too. Hey, and shout out. I want him to get it bad.

You're talking about Veterans Day, like shout out the dog Nate as well, his military parley. I have a pause for Nate dog, dude. His parlay hit, which I did get in on. I did get in on. So shout out the boy. Shout out the boy, Nate. Call of Fame, dude. Call a fame and a great presentation, too. Yeah.

A great presentation. The theatrics, the outfit, everything, which is incredible. Absolutely incredible. So, okay, let's see. What's... Boyd State still stays at 12, huh? Or is this last week?

Yeah, yeah, it's not update because Miami's still in there. What happens to Miami now? Are they still going to make it? They can still go to the ACC championship and win. Yeah, but are they going to... Yeah. And BYU is in the ACC, right? BYU.

B12. Oh, Big 12. Oh, Big 12. Sorry, I get some of them. So it's way on the other side. I mean, Colorado is getting a little frisky. I know. Colorado's getting frisky, bro.

Yeah. How do we feel about that, boys? Tortillas, eggs? I mean, that's O.D. That's a little, that's too much. Tortillas is fine. I will say this, though. I love the entertainment factor.

Yeah. I kind of like it. I like the entertainment factor. Yeah, not condoning people throwing a lot of trash on the field. However. But there's something about the WWE aspect. Yeah. college football where you're like, I kind of like it.

Yeah. I kind of mess with it. Leave it out of the NFL. The head coach. That's proper business stuff in the NFL. The head coach had to get on the mic during the Colorado game and tell the fans to stop throwing trash on. I like it.

I like it. That fires me up, dude. And what was it, Shiloh? Is that his name? No, no, no. Shiloh Sanders. He was like egging him on too. He threw more stuff.

He threw his stuff back. He's like, give it to me again. Like, that's the kind of shit. Embrace it. Travis put in the tortilla put it in his pants. A little snack for later. Tortureania in the britches? Oh, yeah, because the fans keep the tortillas.

The Texas Tech fans keep the tortillas hidden in their bridges to get them into the stadium. So that's how you transfer things. That's how you transfer things. Players don't be doing that. I would caution you. Get you that itch. You don't want that it. The Raider rash is what they call it.

Oh. That's a thing. Don't want the Raider rash. That's a thing. It's like if you're the home team seeing the trash. getting thrown on the field, you're kind of like, guys, hey, cut this shit off. But if you're the away team getting the trash, you kind of like want that shit. You want to get everything even more.

I kind of, yeah, I'm messing with it. Like, bring the noise, bring the hate. Yeah, I wish there was a way for it to be like, I don't know, a classier way to do it. But I do like the people, things getting thrown at the players. Have a section where they can like. Like during timeouts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like a bucket. During a time or something where they can just throw stuff at.

Who's not bottles? Like it's like a hot dog? Yeah, what was the NFL game or a Dildo? Like Buffalo Bills game? A dildo's like, Landed on like the four-yard line. That's the kind of stuff I want to see. The build-o.

Yeah. Throw the big dildos. Hey, also Notre Dame is just in here now? This is an updated CFP projected. SMU, bro. I love it. That's awesome. Yeah.

SMU. Talk about money. They got money. Dallas has got money. SMU, Boise State. Two teams I want to see make it. Yeah. I want that. Like, I'd be pumped if Indiana's going.

Yeah, same. We need Indiana to win that game. Do you? Do you? Do you? Yeah. What happened? Oh, I guess we will be once college, once that season comes around, the old SEC versus Big Ten.

I mean, they had us going to Texas last round. You ain't even going to be in it, JP. Shut up. It's crazy how he'll flip on a dime, JP. He'll flip on a dime. I know. Hopefully y'all make a bowl, man. I know, bro.

Fuck! I know. That would hurt extra, too, because I know I'm in the same position. Yeah. Just as I said. out or a new like I have zero nothing to stand on. You all got to get bowling so you all can play each other.

Yeah. They got to win out. I'm pumped that you guys are, I'm pumped that you guys beat Vanderbilt. I'm pumped that you guys have momentum. Wiped them. And what we say, that D-Ly-Line, they weren't going to, they were not going to be able to slow down that D-Line getting after him. Come on.

I believe it was D-Lady Walker who said that Vanderbilt was going to win that game. Delaney said Vanderbill. He also said Miami. Dude. Delaney sucks. Everybody knows he sucks with God. Was the Miami Georgia Tech game, the game that running back had his helmet partially off

and they got fucking smoked? Smoked dude. Adjusting it and then gets him. And then all the Miami players, they're all like dapping it up with the dude after he gets ejected and he's like, like hype as well. And they fucking lost.

Caught that L. That is just a real world. Kyle Conard on South Carolina is actually the guy that recovered the fumble last year for Georgia Tech when Miami just handed them the game at the end of the

at the end of it. Kyle Conard. Yeah, dude, college football is really shaping up to be this is the best year to have a 12 team playoff. Yeah. It's literally perfect. The system is working. Because last year there was a lot of people

were an uproar about it because that four that's five, six, seven teams. People are like all these teams could be in the playoff. Now it's like, it's just exciting. Here's a thought. Do we get, do we start getting into a situation where your championship, like the SEC championship, the Bay 10 championship,

both teams know they're going to be in. Do they sit guys? Do we start getting into that world at all? It sucks. Like, SEC championships don't matter as much anymore. Bay 10 championships. I don't think because if you win, you're going to get a, you're most likely you're going to get a,

you're going to get a buy. Yeah. And after buy, you're, you don't want to be in like the situation we're in where. And answer me, answer me this too. Like if the teams who get a buy,

are they hosting a college football player or is that only the first round only or you're hosting? First round. Yeah. But yeah, there's obviously always something to play for with the championship game to where you're going to get a buy. Yeah. More than likely going to get by. There are five teams that come out of it.

They've got to get seated. But you do host a home game. Yeah, but you have a guy that's like a little bit injured. He's nursing injury. Maybe he's got an ankle or something like that. I think you're more inclined to tell the player, hey, go and sit this one out. We're going to make the playoffs anyway. Let's get you healthy and ready for a couple of weeks from now.

Because when's the first round of the playoffs start? So it's earlier, right? Yeah. Home playoff games in college is. Not the best. That is the fucking best. And you would be, you would be situated of being like a six seed hosting a home game.

So I could see where, yeah, there could be like a unique situation and where somebody has something that's like, hey, let's just not risk it. Because if we win, we obviously get a buy,

but if we happen to lose, we'll still be hosting a home playoff game. Yeah, like, let's say Oregon. Oregon wins out. Oregon wins out. Oregon, when it goes to the Big Ten championship, they're won. Is there any thought process to Oregon

where it's like, well, it doesn't really matter. We're going to be, if we lose. will be worst case scenario four we're going to get a buy no matter what worst case scenario they would be six our best case scenario if they lose they're six I'm saying does that thought process go into Dan landings head at all probably not man you're trying to win so they got something to prove yeah you are you not entertained you want to buy game because again one through four is

only four teams that win their championship game oh I did not know in five goes to the five goes to the highest ranked conference winner. So if you lose, like, the best you can do with, like, your Oregon and you're undefeated and say you drop that Big Ten championship, the best, your best case scenario is six. Your worst case scenario is probably like seven or eight. So there's no room for that at all.

I say guys and all that. Five is highest ranked non-conference winner, which I think is what you meant to say. Okay, highest ranked non-conference award. Yes. So in that case, it would be like Ohio State, but if Indiana beats Ohio, or Iowa State,

Ohio state. But it could be the same scenario with Oregon being undefeating. They dropped one in the big 10. Like they could be number five, right? Yeah, absolutely. Because they could be the highest ranked non-conference winner. Absolutely.

It's going to get juicy, boys. It's going to get juicy. Because if somebody's a little bit injured and they can go or not go, you win so that way you have that extra buy week. You have that extra week baked in on top of they'll already get like a week off. Right.

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like hey when somebody uses their bet like say delaney how he picks derrick henry every week it's kind of like a survivor pick like once you pick him you can't pick him again but that's the making it harder also. Let's just get a win. But it's like you can use Derek Henry. I can use Derek Henry. Delaney can't. So that's three times in the year we can use Derek Henry. Yeah, okay, I got you. So it's like making Delaney think a little bit more versus just always having Derek Henry. Yeah, when I saw James Cook score, I was like, we've really, because that was

just looking up defenses. I love that great pick. Yeah, and I was just like so happy that hit. Because I thought Christian McCaffrey Hardy scored. I went to look at the stats. I go, God. No And there was still a chance They still had a shot to get it done But And you know where else were idiots

A lot of phases in life But go ahead That we picked another touchdown Win on a Thursday night Football game Yeah Listen we can be better There's a lot of areas

We can be better in the game Here's what we need We just got to get a win And I feel like If there's gonna be a week It's going to be this week Boys Why not this week

Why not this week? What if we just fucking Every reason for the show this week to not be successful, and it's like, why not this week? Why not us? Why not? There's literally one host and a band of the boys in the back. We're going to put this thing together.

And we're going to hope to God. Like literally, the only pick that matters to me this week is the bet the boys parlay. I know. We just need it more than ever. Because we hit it a bunch last year. Last year we hit those things consistently this week, boys, this week. And since I'm not in it, I'll just throw you a few out. options to think about.

Here we go. Options to think about. You know what I mean? Because when I saw David Montgomery getting the end zone last, I'm thinking, God. Go ahead. Just damn it,

why did I pick him? No, with the options. Go ahead. What are the options? Oh, yeah, yeah. I'll wait. People can hear these options on the locker room this week.

Drops on at 6 a. I thought you were about to give us some game right now on a Monday morning while people are watching this on Tuesday. Question. Josh Jacobs. I love Josh Jacobs.

I remember last year you guys would do like Josh Allen over one and a half touchdown pass. It's just betting on touchdowns. Anytime touchdowns. It has to be any touchdowns. It has not like quarterbacks because we, trust me, we'd have been on that.

Yeah. We'd have been on that. Josh Allen scoring a touchdown this week is not a bad thought, though. You did last week. I know. Yesterday. I know.

I know. I thought that too. I was like, God damn it. Huh? Yeah. I do like two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think, boys, that sounds terrible.

That sounds like a fucking terrible idea. Yeah. Just bet one guy multiple touchdowns. Let's go. No. Because Jamar got a couple last Thursday, right? Yeah. Tell you.

Question is, do we keep Derek Henry in this week? Do we keep Derek Henry in? Because part of me feels nervous. Find out on Thursday. Find out on Thursday. Find out on Thursday. That's fair. That's fair.

Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson. What's his name? Sam Donald had like three picks. Bejan, yeah. Bejan. And shout out the Saints, too. Like I was in on the Falcons.

And I think we might have did rapid fire on the locker room. And I just said to Falcons. I was on Falcons for Pro Football Football Show, but Big Cat flipped me. He was like, hey, interim head coach. This is the special team's coordinator, Rizzi. Shout out Rizzi being the interim head coach.

But Foster Morrow comes out. There's a leader amongst men. It's the same playbook as like a Pescia. Like they're going to have the energy. They're going to have the juice. And AP. They just fired Dennis Allen. They're hype about Rizzy coming in.

And so what a call? What a shout's the Big Cat on flipping me there. Rizzi got injured. I don't know if you saw that. I saw it. What did he did? If you saw you did, I press her and he said someone came up behind him and like, kind of like gave him a stinger, but he says his whole left arm went numb. Bro, he like dropped those grabbing on to the- He's got a conditioner.

Grabbing on the line and I'm assuming saying like, hey, hold me up. Just stay right here for what this. I saw the clip that I couldn't tell what was going on. I thought his ACL. He's got himself a stinger, huh? Yeah, he has like a condition. Like it hit too hard. Have any of you boys ever had a stinger?

Not built for the agap. Not built for the agale. Not like that. Any of you boys in the back ever had a stinger? There is, how you're getting knocked. That was kind of easy compared to the stinger. What Sean Merriman was explaining last week when he went against Lorenzo O'Neill is the exact,

those are all the exact moments on concussion stinger related stuff that I would get. Like when I ran into that cat from the New Orleans. Night night motherfucker. Yeah, that stuff. It would always be those kind of moments to where everything kind of rushes to your face. It feels like a metal bat just hitting like a rail and everything in your body just goes limp for a moment. Yeah, that's one of the worst feelings as a stinger, especially a bad one. Yeah. Like when I went out, I was out for the, uh, ran down on kickoff, ran into the wrong person.

And they basically said when I came in the next week, they called it like a spinal cord concussion. Which is terrifying. Sounds terrifying. Terrifying. You did say you dream about hitting someone so hard. Yeah. Yeah. Which, I've never felt a comment more than that.

Right? When I saw that. That's like a real thought. I saw and I was like, bro, that's kind of the truth. Yeah. Is you just want to, but it's got to be some play that like is incredible. and you just lost your life on that play, but what a highlight. What a way to go out.

Show it to that point, and then once you go down, cut the clip right then and there. You go out the way you want to go out playing the game you love, delivering a hit so hard that you kill yourself. I saw, uh, yeah. Oh, no. That's a stinger right there for sure. That's me saying like, hey, this will all go away in a moment. Like, I'll be good. I saw no, no context.

It's posted a clip of us against Miami. and I got hit and I kind of just like cut that little clip real quick but we were playing that same game it might have been a different time in my name yeah but you got lifted I saw it and I was like oh balls in the ground and all of a sudden got beat

I was like literally saw that and it all came back to me I was like oh my god I cannot believe I just got smoked like that but we guys see it oh yeah yeah I don't think that was the one oh yeah that was when fucking Matt Castle

was the court man is like back in the archive but we had a we had a game against Miami and we were just talking about Stinger where I like we were like in the red zone and I jumped in Andre Branch and I went in the way I hit him like both my arms kind of went limp and then you can actually see the clip I'm kind of just like playing basketball for a second like thank God the ball got out your arms yes my arms like we're not working for a moment is brutal dude I literally went I went and hit him and I was like moving around him like that it was weird stingers suck man I remember dude a kid and Patrick Obama oh mama getting those all the time in college where he and I never had a stinger before he's like yeah sometimes just lose my My arm just stops working. I'm thinking that fucking sucks, bro. Yeah, it's a weird feeling.

And the first thing I ever got, Buffalo Bills. Brutal. I was like, this is what he's been talking about the whole time. Yeah, dude, how about that hit? Who is that motherfucker too? Look this. Oh, yeah, if it's over? What is that?

You're like looking right at him. No, I'm looking at the ball. You can defend yourself. I'm looking at the ball. That's a, keep your head on a swivel type of mentality. What am I, doing there. I mean, you even went to the ground and threw your legs up. I know. It's kind of one of those me. I'll just tumble over. Ah. Tired too. Miami, dude. That, hey, the humidity is no joke in Miami.

Yeah. Yeah, no joke. I was probably a little sleepy, a little tired there. Should we dive into Hardy? Let's jump into Hardy boys. I hope you guys enjoyed the intro. Again, please for the love of God, subscribe as Will Compton. Yeah. While you're watching this Hardy episode, if there's a little moment to where you want to, you want to raise a glass for some Fireball whiskey, Fireball's the perfect for game day and watching pods, whether you're buying those sneaky low shooters before going into the stadium or going big with the fireball cake

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Big Farts, tiny poots. Dude. Was this planned? Yeah, this planned. Yeah, and I tried to get him to include you and he never responded to me about it. I thought I was like, get up Compton and then he was like, oh, sorry.

Hey, Howard, I'm going to let you know if this outfit you're wearing was white, you'd be in a lot of trouble with that beak up. As soon as you, oh, just the beak In general, that's a tough That's tough. A lot of quats on this bus too. A lot of quits. It's only quots, dude.

Yeah, it is. We got to, we used to have a meskin. He quit to become a cop. You just said Oh, it was McAfee. We're recording. Good. I hope you got all of that. Go ahead and grab that mic put next to you. What McAfee say? He just said something about being a quite on

on like game day. I think it was him. Dude, he always talks about the old whites. Yeah, but he said something, what he just, he was talking about somebody and he was like, and he's a white boy. He's a white boy. I can't remember. Dude, Pat is one of those guys that continuously, like, pushes the envelope.

He's like Theo Vaughn type guy. It's like you could just kind of get away with it. He's got the energy, dude. He's got the energy. And it feels like it's kind of going that way back to have a little more fun with your words. I think that it will, dude, don't even get me started on the. like that generational generational shit.

No, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just saying, it's going to swing it's going to swing way back to the, to the, um, politically incorrect side, I feel like. Right. And it's, in a way that it, it has a sense of humor. Yeah, I hope so. I think so.

There's a line. Right? There's a line. And the line is, if that was all white, right, that's the line. We can't. The gift that keeps on giving, everybody's probably wondering mid-November, like, why are, Oh, yeah, by the day, this episode comes out October 12th? November 12. November 12.

Oh, beautiful. Yeah. But it's, hey, this is the week of Halloween. The boys were reping our costume. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout to Jesus pieces, dude. Yeah. So what's up, dude?

What do you been up to? Dude. I'm done touring. Forever? No. But for this year, we played. I had two nights at Red Rocks, which was like amazing. That was.

a week ago. Yeah, that was last weekend. And I just went home to my deer camp in Mississippi and got a bunch of stuff ready for deer hunting. Yeah? Kind of in, we're having a baby. Yeah? Yeah.

Yeah. And a boy, round applause. Yeah, thank you. Do date? When's the due date? The due date is February 24th. Okay. Yeah, man.

24. You excited? Yeah, very. First one. Do you know boy or girl? I do. Are we saying? Oh, this comes out November 12th.

Yeah. I know you got to, we can edit. this out in case we haven't announced it yet. But we've announced their pregnancy, but it's a girl. Oh! Girl, Dad! Let's go! Let's go. I'm so excited, bro. Were you, like, one of the guys that was like, as long as a healthy baby, or did you have like a want? Like, I want a boy. I want a girl. I know. In the back of your mind, dude,

yeah, of course. Like, what man doesn't want a son, you know? No doubt. But you've been around a lot of cats that have sons, right? Man, honestly, A lot of my buddies have girls. Like a lot of my... I mean, I will say, I don't know. It's 60-40 girl dad to boy dad. But any boy, like... I'll say this.

Every boy I've been around under the age of five, fit for a straight jacket. Dude. Like, they're just crazy. They're animals. They're animals. And I was very much like, I wanted a boy so bad.

Now I have two girls, seven and four. They're amazing. They're fantastic. I've heard it. There's so much. easier, dude. Yeah, I heard zero to like 11 with girls is way easier. Right.

And then it flips the script on you when it flow comes to town. Yeah. And it's the exact opposite for boys. Like zero to 12 is like, we might, we might have to put this boy in a home. It's that bad. Yeah. And then he hits puberty and then all of a sudden things get better or worse. Who knows what happened?

Men don't know it, but we need daughters, bro. Dude, I have no doubt. You think you want a boy and then you have a girl and it's, it's, it's best. And Callie tells me, too, she's like, think about it. Of course, I wasn't like boo. When we found out it was a girl, I was ecstatic. But like, she was like, think about it. Like, you can teach everything that you wanted to teach your son to your daughter.

And she will be fucking badass because of that. Whereas if it's a son, it's just like, okay, cool. He knows how to fish and hunt and like, whatever. But like, you know, the fact that your baby girl, hopefully will have an interest in that shit, like makes it even cooler. No doubt. And also, if you decide to have another kid and it is a boy, when he gets to high school, she's going to bring all her hot friends over. and that's a big dub for him.

Dude, no doubt. That's a huge dub. Yeah. So there's all, there's a high time. Yeah, yeah, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what you want.

I had an older sister, man. I feel that. Yeah, right? I have an older sister. And she had that one friend that you can think about right now. And you're like, yeah, I was so happy when she came over.

Don't have to say her name. Don't need to. Yeah, I won't. But you know. I do. Yeah, yeah. Dude, your wife is a fucking rock star. She was with us at a beer Olympics.

Dude. Not last, I guess last year, right? Two years ago. Yeah, 2023. Yeah. You're putting them down. You guys are competing until that flip cup came. No, that's what we dominated the flip cup.

Right? That's when it all started to hit. Well, that's when we started puking. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, let me tell you something. She went to Ole Miss, first of all. When I met her, I was like, I was afraid of her when I met her, dude.

Like, seriously, the first time, so I'm a little bit older than her. So I was like out of college when we met. And I came back and went. to like a formal with her as like an older guy, you know? Yeah. And man, dude, just animal, dude. Like all of her friends, but her especially just like dog mentality. It was fucking insane, bro.

And I was like, what have I gotten myself into? And that, you know, as she like graduated and had become more, um, um, domestic, I guess or whatever you want to call it. She, you know, that party side, as it happens to a lot of us, that slowly fades away. and man like I've seen it come out in her like twice but the most was the since since she's you know been out of college and the beer Olympics was by far the most like potent version of that

and I was just like fucking The animal side dude It's insane how it comes out of it. It's kind of nice to see that like oh that's I remember that Yeah totally and I mean we've only been together I mean gosh it's been I think seven years now but like you know it it just it goes away and a few years go by and you kind of forget you know like the

what you know just how you used to get down and stuff. And it was awesome. It was fun for me as just kind of a bystander to just be like, fuck yeah, everybody's looking and you like, who the fuck is this girl right now? When I hit you up and I was like,

you want to do it and you're like, yeah, can my wife be my partner? I thought, that's such a mistake. Yeah. But it ended up being like the highlight of the entire day. Yeah, dude.

Which he has murdering people over and over and over again. Look at that. And dude, I will say this. I was thinking about on the right on the drive here. I don't know how like, puking to me is not, there comes a point where like if you have a stomach,

bug or like you're on an airplane and you feel like you could puke. Like I understand like the mental like holding it in. But that the amount of beer that was in my gut, dude, it's like cutting yourself and saying, trying to convince yourself not to bleed. Like that's what it felt like to me. I was like, there's no fucking way I'm not going to throw up right now. I don't know how this, like I don't know how you guys did it, man. It was a lot, dude. It is a lot. And there's, there's been some, some conversations about next year less alcohol consumption. And I, I'm, I'm against it. Or just do, I mean, there's some freaking liquor in there, dude.

It's like, I don't know. Dude, you, because it's the amount, it's the amount of fucking liquid. That's what, that's what got us, dude. I'm telling you. It's such a, it's such a, it's a marathon, dude. It's a true marathon. Now you and Mark from Midland. Yeah.

The boys went toes. Really, your wife at him went toes. Yeah, I was, dude, again, I was just like, you know, yeah, watching the whole thing go down. Have you guys made up? They, well, yeah, but Cali like... Oh, we got real like that? I remember like Mark coming up to me and be like, that's fucking bullshit. Like, you can't throw up and still compete.

I'm like drunk. Just guys be guys. Yeah, yeah. Like trying to figure out all the rules in the middle of the year. I don't know if like all the footage is on there, but she went after his ass, dude. She was calling him like a pussy and like a bitch and shit like that. It was pretty awesome. And then since then, like, yeah, like we've seen each other at award shows and stuff.

And like, they give a big hug. but at the time it was it was still you know her like that competitive edge stayed in between the lines it's good gotta keep in between the lines

absolutely we had one this year we had uh we were in the finals and it got chippy there was a lot of there was who were you who were the other two

it was David Bactiari and his boy Joey comedian what show his last name could we look that up so you have some respect Joey Avery that's correct

yeah and we were I think that's the most drunk we were more drunk this year than we were last year really yeah

close for me. Was there, uh, not even close. Were the, kill himself. The game. Were there,

were the games different? Was there more beer this year? Like, what's the deal? Uh, we, we figured it up because Flip Cup, Taylor wanted the pitchers to cover all the flip cups.

So you're kind of chugging in flipping at the same time. So we figured up within a couple hours, we put, we put down like 16 beers. 16 and a half beers, I believe was the number. That was another reason why. So Callie and I,

we were winning Flip Cup, but we kept fucking tying people. So we kept, having to run it back and drink. So we drank like and she and I specifically we would like tie every game and then win. So we drank like probably seven or eight more beers that everybody else did. It was horrible. The video of her puking between her fingers is like one of my favorite things of all time. And Michael Chandler just like I was like nobody saw that. And like the first thing is like Chandler like turning around and just be like walking off. He's a war daddy man.

He's a he's a type of cat that can drink and the next day be totally fine. Doesn't matter how I don't know how people do that, man. It's impressive. He was in the sauna the next day. They were ready to cut us off. Yeah. This year he texted us or sent us a video in the sauna being like, I think a break from you guys for a little bit.

He was back in like three days. You feel like hangovers? A lot of that is like mental. No. No. Okay. Well, then Howard. Of course, he's a fighter and his metabolism is like insane.

But like I know people that are not fighters and that are like normal dudes or girls that can do the same thing. I know guys that are like 60 that can. and wake up and like just start drinking are they just tougher than I am? I think they're just alcoholics.

Yeah, they're just about, they're just about what the hair of the dog just get, hey, let's start drinking again and the hangover will go away.

But think about like parents weekend at colleges and how those parents like they get fucked up and the next day they're just like up and they're just chipper and there,

is that like a generational thing? Maybe we just got softer. That's a good point. Or when you have kids you just got to be on your peas and cues the next day. And like for so long you're just so used to that.

See, this is where I'm like the hangovers are not. it's not a mental thing because whenever I drink I would just become the worst dad the next day I don't want to do anything on the couch and just be a bag of dicks for 24 hours eat greasy food yeah give me some Mexican in there I love how he's like is do you guys think hangovers are like placebo you kind of just think they're yeah but you think you should so you do but you remember being like in like 18 19 20 like your first couple years in college oh dude and just being like throw up black out pass out on the floor and wake up and grow like yeah maybe maybe like two hours of feeling shitty and then like you drink one boy or you drink one boy oh dude and just being like throw up black out on the floor and wake up and then like you drink one bird or bottle of water and you're good. Not for me anymore no way, not me either dude. The Beer Olympics took me like literally probably a week to get back to feeling normal. Yeah.

You guys drink. It was like full seven days. Yeah. I mean, you all had, you were there for that's the problem too. It's like you start going at 11 a.m. And you're not, we weren't finished. It was dark when we're in our final beer pong game. Yeah. And trying to play beer pong when you're just fucked. Yeah.

Yeah. It was one of those days, man. It was, we, I was so drunk, but even in my drunken stupor, At the end, I was like, please, I just want to go home. I'm home. You're home. I'm trying to go to my bed. I want everyone to leave now.

I'm so ready. You, at that point, you're like, you can't, you cannot dip. You have to be like the last guy. One of the, right? Like, you've got to kind of be the host, right? Yeah. See the last person out. Yeah.

And then I try to talk everybody into a sleepover after. And it didn't work out. My boys from high school, they stayed. But I had like, Dennis Kelly, his, his boys, Will. Will fell asleep on the couch. And I was like, come on. Just let's sleep over. Let's play risk.

And I'm just like. Like trying to load risk on my Xbox. I walked out and I came back in the room. They all left. I was like, just being left alone with Chinese. They gave each other the look like the you guys ready? Yeah.

Well, we woke up and he like got an Uber right away. I wasn't talking to anybody. It was like, I'm leaving. I ordered some Chinese food. It sat on my front porch the entire night because I got home and just pass out of the college. Dude, I've been there. It was.

It's a fun time, man. It's a really fun time. It's a great event. I'm really sorry that we missed it this year. It was kind of in the peak of my like touring schedule. but you've been all over the place but I feel like you guys have just been on the road just road animals. This summer

this summer was wild. Yeah I made a decision last year around this time maybe like earlier October that because like a normal if you're going to gig like how most normal country artists who are having like doing okay like doing well with like

selling tickets and stuff or playing like 60 shows a year and we were kind of hovering more around like 80 or 90 and I just I hit a wall last year and I just kind of had a revelation of like didn't didn't want to be gone that much like there's there are people I have buddies even I mean I have guys that work for me and I have artist buddies that that like they love being on the road like I mean jellies is on the road five times a week loves it I I don't I love playing shows I love my

fans I mean all that like I love it but the it's being on the road like being gone the travel I don't know. There's, I think some people, it's just a, it's a, not even a lifestyle, but it's like there's something about like, I really don't know how to pinpoint it, but. What was like the revelation you were having when you started to hit the wall? Man, I just kind of looked up at, we were having conversations about the, what would be now this year. And we were towards that, well, actually, we were, yeah, we were somewhat towards the end of my, halfway through my fall tour. And I was just like, I'm fucking exhausted. And like, you know, I have

So I'm not like I'm a songwriter Like not just for myself But like I come back to town and I write songs And I'm a publisher And I have people that have signed And like I have And I have not that I don't I don't think I've overdone it by any means

But I love to have my hands And a lot of different parts of the music industry Because I love it so much And touring was the one thing That I was just like This is my This is my Least favorite

I don't dislike it But it was like my least favorite So I hit a point where I was looking at next year and I was like this is going to be the same fucking thing we're going to start back in like February and I'm just I'm never going to be able to catch up

and I just finally was like what what is exhausting me the most like what is the shit on my plate that I would that I would be happy if I took some of it off and it was touring so we started so I kind of made a deal with myself and honestly with Callie

which she's never ever like encouraged me to take time off she's just like do your thing but I was like what if we start in May and we gig our ass off during the summer and we tour super hard and we play all the festivals and we do all the things and like on september whatever or you know october first whatever it is like we stop and like i you know i do my in town music industry shit in october in the fall and then in the spring and then so that way in my head we're like okay summer it's it's almost like i don't know it's

almost like a season if you will like and it's like i'm i'm mentally preparing that this part of the year is going to be busy as shit and it's just like it is what you're what it is and we're going to have a blast and we're going to look forward to it and we're going to miss it because, you know, there's going to be so much time past as opposed to just like catching up every freaking week and Monday and Tuesday and having clothes washed and freaking being tired for two days and then getting your shit back together and getting on a bus and it's just a constant thing and it's just something that I'm not. I love. There are parts of the road that I love but just it's something about the being gone and the travel that was just too much

and so that was the cut that I made. Like the thought of like starting a family was that kind of Definitely that. Yeah. Oh, dude, if you don't think it was causing like, I mean, I wouldn't say, I mean, yeah, it was causing Callie and I to buttheads on a lot of shit, like, like, just being gone. And then it's like, when are we going to do, when are we going to go on a vacation or do, like, anything together? And I kind of realized I was like, man, I'm really prioritizing the road because I have this

mentality of like strike while the iron's hot. It could all go away kind of thing. And again, I just was finally like, man, life's too short. And I will always tour. Like, I mean, and from a business standpoint, like, that's where most of my, like, money. That's where most of my, like, income comes from. That's the big money for everybody, right? Yeah, 100%.

But it's like, there comes a time. It's like, why? I mean, everybody's different, but I was like, I don't need this much money. I'm good with just, I'm good with this. Yeah. Let's just do this. Finding that is special, dude. Being able to finally be like, okay, this is enough for me is something that I don't feel like a lot of people get.

For sure. A lot of people figure out. And a lot, too. Like it'll change like when the little girl comes, especially. Oh, my God. I'm going on the road even more, yeah, especially when she's not out there. Yeah. Yeah.

So it works like you leave Thursday through Sunday and come back? Wednesday, Wednesday night. And we get in like usually Sunday around midday. Damn. And so usually Sunday, I mean, when you're, obviously when your dad is, you know, you've got to be like ready to roll. But for these past few years, Sunday is like recovery day. And even if you're not, even if it wasn't like a big drinking weekend, it's just like the travel and the no sleep. You know, you know how this shit is.

Yeah. You just kind of hang around and sleep on Sunday. I would, I'd get up and I would, you know, have meetings and write songs on Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday. And then Wednesday afternoon, pack my shit and go back out to wherever we're going. If touring is like your least favorite, still love it, but least favorite. What's your favorite thing about the music industry that you do? Writing songs. Yeah?

Yeah. What about writing songs just fucking does it for you? I don't know. You ever seen the movie holes? Good. Yeah. Of course. You know Zero.

Uh-huh. When people are like, what do you like doing? He's like, I like digging holes. Yeah. That's writing songs for me. Hell yeah, dude. I just, I think that like, none of the music industry, period, the end, would exist without the song. I mean, it's, it's like an obvious thing, but, like, that is where the entire music industry begins is, like, hit songs.

And it's just, man, when you get in a room and you, you know, you got on something where you're like, this is going to be huge. Or even, like, this is going to, like, I have a song, Give Heaven Some Hell. and it's like, it was not a number one. But, like, we knew, I was like, this song is going to freaking heal people, dude. And, like, that is the coolest feeling in the world to know that this song is going to, like, affect people and, like, help people heal or cope or, you know what I mean?

Or whatever it is. And, like, there's something so freaking dope about how that came out of, like, me and two or three of my, like, beer drinking buddies, stupid-ass country brains. And somehow we got together and did something really cool and how that's going to move, like, a mass amount of people. It's like, there's just, there's nothing to me that compares to that. Do you like, you like writing with people or?

Yeah, totally. Yeah. I'll write by myself some, but. Some, but not. It's better to have a whole think tank. For sure. Because I was told, like, if you're a thing in the country industry, specifically, if like, the three of us are writing a song. And I don't do shit.

But you two both do it all, but because I'm in the room, I get credit. Yeah. That works like that? Everybody has a bad day. Damn. So you got to essentially be really choosy about who walks in that room. when you guys are writing. Yeah, for sure.

And I mean, it's all scheduled. Like, you know, you have your publisher. And typically they are like, your publisher will schedule. Like, I could check my phone for the next month. And I can tell you everybody I'm writing with, like, every day that I'm writing. Right. And like, so it's usually scheduled. Like, there's not people like poking their head in and being like,

what are you guys working on today and just like hop in or anything like that? But yeah, I mean, that's, dude, everybody has an off day. And that's just kind of, that's been the Nashville rule for a long time. I feel like the day that goes away will kind of be like a, that'll be like the, the end of like the Nashville songwriting process. Because it's just, it's, they say drop a word, take a third, dude.

That's like the thing. Yeah. Why do you think, take a third? Why do you think that's like such an important thing for Nashville? I think it helps people, you know, I don't know. I mean, it's very much a part of the culture in L.A. you have lawyers after hit songs get written

calling each other and saying, well, my writer said that your writer didn't do shit and all that stuff. And the Nashville culture is that everybody, it's very competitive, but it's also very... Collaborative? Yeah, and very...

Everybody roots for each other's success. Like, there is no, nobody... It's really not that sharky, especially not in the songwriting industry. Like, people are truly rooting for each other's success. And I think it's a small... It's also a very small town.

And if you have somebody in the room that is or could potentially be a hit writer one day, the last thing you want to do is have a fucking lawyer call and be like, hey, my writer said this guy didn't do shit. We're going to take him off the song. What if that person turns into a giant hit song. What if he gets better as a songwriter and become somebody that you could very much so benefit from way later in your career? And that person is like, well, fuck you. You took me off a song back in.

the day because, you know, you said I was having an off day. It's just you just, when you get in the room, man, it's just everybody is there for each other. And it's, I've never ever experienced, uh, in a true Nashville writing session, uh, or post that. Like, I've never experienced somebody being like, hey, I heard so and so didn't really do shit today. Do you want to take him off the song or get him left? Real or less percent. Have you ever? So there's never really been that situation. Was there ever, it's like 20, when COVID happened, you saw a bunch of people like leaving and going like to Austin and

Tennessee and Nashville and stuff like that. Yeah. Did you feel like the culture was in danger at all during that time? Because I feel like a lot of talented people kind of left California and to seek salvation in Austin and Nashville, Tennessee. Man, as far as like the writing thing went, people, I think there was like a month of like, there was a month of like panic or just really more than anything. A bunch of songwriters being like, well, you guys want to play Call a Duty or what?

Yeah, yeah. But everybody picked up on the Zoom writing thing really quick. So like it really never, it really didn't change much. People moved. I know a guy that moved to freaking Canada. People definitely like, you know, move to other places or like if they had a cabin or like a lakehouse or something, they would go out there. But, but man, the Zoom thing like took over for, even after things started opening up, it took a lot of people a long time to get back to doing it in person because of how cool. Like once you kind of figured out how to do the Zoom thing.

which there was a little bit of a learning curve, but it became so efficient, and people really, really leaned into that during COVID. It's pretty cool. Have you ever had an off day? Oh, for sure. Is there a song out there that has your name on it

that you think, damn, I kind of just rode on this one? Yeah, actually. I know the song. I'll tell you the song. It was, it's called, I think it's called The Way I Am or the Way that I am, and singer Michael Ray cut it.

and my i wrote it with my um josh miller who's a great songwriter and a guy named ben west and i remembered i came in that day and josh had like the verse and chorus already done which like doesn't happen all the time um and i and at the end of the when he like played it and we're messing with the second verse and i got a call that my dog i can't remember how but my dog at the time had gotten out of my apartment and was running around my neighborhood and so I got how did that even happen

now that I think about it but long story short I had to leave and then like two months later Josh or somebody called me and was like hey Michael Ray is cutting our song that we wrote and I was like sick

but I specifically remember that like I that was just a day I was lucky to be there you know so do you ever walk over to Josh and be like hey man I know I'm too embarrassed Yeah, for real?

He's probably going to see this, though. I remember that day. Write a word, take a third. Yeah, I remember that day leaving and being like, damn, I didn't do shit. It's just, you know, it happens. And that's the thing, though, like, it could be you one day. You could come in and just be having a bad morning or whatever it is. And, you know, people, that's just, that's the beauty of it, man.

Everybody has a bad day, you know, and you shouldn't be. punished for that because you showed up and you work hard and that's that seems like and everybody gets a trophy mentality but it's it's it's just it's just the nashville way man somebody could be having a horrible day at home but they got up and they fucking put their pants on and they drove in and they wrote a song that day and just because maybe they were in their head about something if a hit got written that could be you the next time so you just everybody in the room gets the same we interrupt this episode to ask you a question you know what we all need to get more of off of your ass with bold flavors and a refreshing citrus kick

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and now kind of seems like you and Ernest and Jelly, like, we're like the tip of the spear as far as that goes. Does that feel? Yeah, Morgan as well, excuse me. Yeah. Do you feel like you guys were a huge part of like that transition of country music? Because just to go a little bit further,

it seemed like, you know, 10, 15 years ago, people were doing country music, then getting out of country music to go do more popular genres. Yeah, and now it's the opposite. Yeah, now it's flip. The popular genres are now jumping in. Post-Molon is a perfect example of that. Yeah.

Going and being one of the biggest stars in the world, be like, I'm going to cut a country album. Yeah. And it seems like when you kind of think about the transition, your name is really big in that, at least in my thought process. Did you feel that way? Um,

I mean, I don't know. It's hard to gas yourself. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I just, I guess so, man. I mean, back then, especially with me and Earn, like some of that stuff,

like, especially the stuff that kind of put Morgan on the mat. We were just like writing songs that we thought were cool. for our buddy and I don't know that stuff I mean I obviously like the

I can see the the physical proof of like leaning into the rock thing and how it like worked and all that but man I don't know that's it's hard to have a gauge on that like to be like yeah I was a part of like a huge movement or whatever but it is I will say it's

I do feel like I am a part of a class of artists that is like when I think of that I do think of me Jelly Morgan Earned Lainey Wilson that is definitely we have all together been a part of a shift

in country music that brought a maybe a wave of just I would even put Luke even though Luke was like five or six years ahead of us on that like normalcy

like normal people kind of singing a little bit more about like normal shit and that sort of resonating with a huge you know mass crowd of people kind of thing.

Just a new wave of this like authenticity thing that happened in country because you know if you look at bro country which no disrespect at all that shit like FGL were they kind of put

they put me on the map like as a songwriter that that was this larger than life kind of persona right like everything had like a big professional wrestler vibe to it if you will and then

even guys like Stapleton and again like Luke Combs and these people that were just kind of normal looking people started singing songs that were a little bit more of like a different subject matter and and uh I think that just there was a there's so many people from small towns that were like not that they I don't think were tired of the bro country thing but the the normal life type shit had gone away for so long that they really resonated with that and that's kind of the movement I think that's happening now it's like just a little bit more it's kind of

gone from this like giant larger than life thing to like uh i don't know people just singing songs about life and shit and it's really cool it feels like they went like country was country and then it's all like all the popular music and then country went into this like adapter die type of situation like we got to be more like everything else and that's finding its way back into i don't know just the country yeah i feel that even with all the pop country stuff i i feel like people from my hometown they'd really be like they'd want to put you on like the jamy johnsons of the world yeah totally um you were talking about florida georgia line putting you on the map a little bit you see our episodes with florida georgia line i have yeah yeah what'd you think i thought it was great

the whole thing i'm like god damn it we're open this again i mean that was i felt like i was getting messages too from just people in the music world that was talking about hey loved your episodes yeah yeah not a lot of people knew what was going on i had a uh i thought it was a very good i thought it was very professional of you guys to have them both on to give them to get both of their sides of the story. You're doing such a great job, but I want you to know that. I just, I'm, I'm, I don't have, I'm in, I'm in good, uh, standing with both of those guys and I really don't have an opinion about it. So, uh, but I thought my, my main thing was, who did you

have on first? Tyler. Okay. I, when you guys announced that you were going to have Brian on, I was like, I'm glad that they did that. That happened quick. Not because of, not because, you know, not in defense of either or but just that like you know i think that's the the purest form of journalism is to or whatever you want to call it these days is to have both people tell their side of the story and i was like that's that was sick it was lucky that actually was luck at the draw because the plan i don't think well the plan was never to have brian kelly and we didn't really i've probably said 10 words to him and then after the tiler thing came out it was very quick that he wanted to

come on yeah he was fired up ready to go i remember sitting in the barber chair and Taylor called the day of the drop of the Tyler one. And he's like, he wants to come on like now. Yeah. And I was, I, yeah, picked up the, he called me. I picked up the, his wife, texting my wife and was like, can BK call Taylor? And she's like, yeah. Called me.

He's like, I want to come on. I was like, all right. Tomorrow's open. Like, do you want to come on tomorrow? He's like, yes. Nice. It's like, all right. Call will.

It's like, hey, we're doing this. Yeah. All right. Still one haircut. A lot of that drama and stuff was like, so my relationship with them was, they had me out as a this was like

2016 and 17 they had me out like almost every show of those two years that they had as a songwriter and I basically helped them write their one of their records

it was called Can't Say Ain't Country and I apparently there was a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes but that stuff was just you know that was to us we had no idea all the

songwriters out there. You never felt that at all walking into a room with them? No, not really. I mean, they, either they or their management did a really good job of like, not airing out any drama to anybody other than what was going on between them. Because we,

I never really knew until after the fact. When I heard my manager at the time, or still as my manager, he was also theirs, uh, let me know that they were disbanding or whatever. Um, I wasn't shocked,

but I was definitely like, really. You know what I mean? It was enough that I wasn't like, saw that one coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're kind of like, oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I, you know.

Especially on top of the world, too. Yeah. Crushing it. You were talking about, like, appreciating being, being in that conversation of that wave of country music and Nashville and everything else. When did you know that iron, that iron was getting hot for you guys? Like, when was the moment? Oh, man. I will never forget.

I, uh, so Morgan, so Morgan, when he was. still like a nobody, which is so crazy to think about, uh, recorded up down. And I was like, cool. Um, and I remembered around like, it was like around, it was like around, if sometime in May, my manager called me and said, um, hey, well, up down. So around, around May, up down was like top 10. And that was my first hit. I wrote, so I wrote up down and that was like my first top 10. I was like, okay, I'm, I'm finally going to have a little bit of success, make a little bit of money. And then, what year was this? I hate to get you. 2018.

Around May of 2018. And then Seth called me again and said, well, he was like, hey, you know, up down's probably going to go number one. And then like a week later, he called me. It was like, you have the next, you wrote the next Florida Georgia Line single. It was simple. It was a song. And then like a week after that, he called me and was like, you have the next Chris Lane single.

And it was talking out of it. And then, or not talking out of it. Excuse me. I don't know about you as the name of the song. And then somebody else called me. There was another one. Oh, it was Jameson Rogers, actually. And they were like, you have the next Jameson Rogers single,

which was called Some Girls. And all those songs ended up going number one. And then it was like a month after that. They were like, hey, Blake Shelton is going to record God's Country. And then it was like, I mean, it just, I remember there was a period of six months where for people, since I have been in town, where like you have nothing and then you get a hit.

and then if everything, if the cards all fall right, you'll get one and then you'll get another one and you'll get another one. No shit. And it just, it kept happening and kept happening. It just, there was no rhyme or reason to any of it. I mean, there was no like, I felt like I got better as a songwriter. I definitely do, you know, but everybody, I mean, that's just a part of anything that you do, you get better at it, the more you do it. But it just, it was like a time thing. And I just remembered like, okay, this is the, this is the, this is it.

And then after that my, and at the time, I was still just a songwriter. And this was like 2018 and this was when like simple and up down and all that stuff was kind of popping off. And my manager, Seth called me and well, really, it's kind of a long story, but Tyler Hubbard kept, he was in my ear like every other weekend. Like, dude, you got to do the artist thing. That's what they say, do the artist thing. And all my buddies were signing record deals and go and they were just like gone and their life was over. And like, you know, my buddies who love to hunt and fish and all that shit. and they were like looking to me like

don't fucking do it dude like this shit sucks. Oh no shit. A little bit yeah because it's like so grindy man and like you don't know there's so much unknown and you don't know if it's going to work out but that's that's a part of the process but next thing I know Seth England around that time where he was calling me to say I had simple and up down was going to go number one blah blah blah called me and was like coming to come into Big Loud saw a record label we want to chat with you about something and I was like what the fuck?

and so I go in and I walk into the it's like something I have a movie I walk into Seth's office and all the label heads are there and he literally basically just like handed me a record deal and I was just a songwriter like I had no intentions of being an artist at all and so I took it and and sat on it for months I sat on it for like a few months and like didn't know what to do because I was like I don't know if I want to do this all my buddies are like literally tell it's like the remember a brother where art day I were the the kit the guy gets um the guy that gets uh he's like in prison he turns around he's like do not seek the treasure you know what i mean yeah that's what it reminded me of but i finally i was reading this book

called the alchemist if ever read that book yeah it's a great book i just finished it paolo what was it polo koelhoa something like yeah that's it that's it yeah and uh it talked about all the omens and like opportunities yeah and i was basically like this i feel like this is a sign and uh so i just that summer around all that same time of the songwriter stuff was happening. I just signed a record deal and just was like, all right, here we go. Dude, that's fucking wild. So those two months, you were just kind of sitting on it, were they calling and being like, hey, what are you going to do? Not really. They didn't put a lot of pressure on me. Really? But they're very, they're all very, they've now become like dear friends of mine. We

work together, obviously, but like there was a lot of strategy involved. Like, like, they knew how much I love Joey Moy, who is my producer, who was like FGL's producer and Morgan's producer and all these people. And I had loved him since back when he produced Nickelback and all that. And, uh, like Joey called me out of the blue when I didn't know him. And I was like, well, that's pretty cool. And now looking back, I'm like, I'm sure that somebody was like, hey, yeah, probably help if you called Hardy. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like there's some shit like that. Get him going. Yeah, exactly. But, uh, I mean, it worked. And I have,

I don't regret it one bit. But it was all there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, that the summer of 2018 was just a very, it was like the, the, the, I was at that point I was eight or nine years into town and with no success and it was just it was a really cool it was a really cool summer I was a lot going to ask you about that

what was those nine years like where it was it just how many times you're like dude what am I doing? I never you know that my biggest like mantra or whatever over the since okay so I went to MTSU I graduated in 2013

shout out Kevin Byrd and uh I signed a publishing deal shortly thereafter, which you guys obviously know, you know, the publishing deal, right? So, and I went four years and I did not get a single cut.

Like, I didn't have a single person record or even really sniff recording one of my songs. And in that time, I think I was just cocky enough or, like, stupid enough that, like, I was more, instead of, like, discouraged with myself,

I was more pissed off and couldn't figure out why nobody wanted to cut one of my songs, you know? Yeah. And I think that, that kind of dumb blindness or maybe kept just that just kept pushing me a little bit. I feel like you truly have to be stupidly like you have to like just blindly believe in yourself to a point where it's almost like delusion.

Right. The confident illusion. Yeah. It's like almost having too much awareness at that point in your life is a bad thing. Yeah. You're like four years in. Someone would probably think to themselves with a lot of awareness, hey, I don't know. Yeah.

if this is working out for me, but to be that kind of confidence is... Yeah, and look, and I didn't even know I was, you know, doing that at the time. Like, looking back, I was like, boy, you sure did believe in yourself for God that songs weren't that weren't good enough yet. You know what I mean? Nine years. Yeah, but it just, I don't know. There's just something about like, I think all that shit, man, manifestation, whatever you want to call that, I feel like when you kind of have your blinders on, and you're like, this is going to happen for me at some point.

And if you just truly don't have a backup plan, and that was my thing. So to answer your question, like, I never consider. coming home moving back home or anything i just i just kind of was like it's going to happen it's going to happen and and eventually it just it just kind of did it's interesting too like i i always thought like if you're in the rooms of certain people like your boys or your friends and they know that you're a good songwriter they kind of tell somebody else hey he's pretty good but it sounds like you're you're waiting you're sitting there waiting and your guy your management calls you up and like hey you're going to write this song for so-and-so next week or this is going to be the next one

you're writing. Like when you finally got that number one, he calls like, hey, you're going to write this song. Hey, you're going to write this song. Were you knowing at the time, like Blake Shelton, did you know that he liked you as a songwriter and you were going to write his song? Or is it basically management, these management teams figure out like, hey, it's going to be Hardy. Hardy's going to write this song for him. No, I'm telling you, it was all like, it's like, it's, there was no rhyme or reason to any of it. Dude, I'm telling you, when I wrote God's country, it was the first song I wrote a 2019. And I wrote that song. and I left that day thinking like that was that's a cool song and you just get a call that like two days later my publisher was like hey I sent that to Blake's producer and Blake apparently loves it and he's going to record it like in a week and but there was no like there's no rhyme or reason to it like there's just you just wrote a song that day and you're hoping that it's it lands somewhere and do you even know Blake Shelton at the time?

No. Does he know of you? At the time. He just hears your song and hears you write it up and he's like I love this song this so I'm going to record. I think that I don't I don't I don't. I don't think, I mean, I was still so young, even just as an artist then, because I was like six, six or eight months into my artist's career or whatever. I probably don't think he knew who I was at all. When it comes to writing, do, like, does the name of the writer play a part in the artist choosing the song? Absolutely. Once you get to a certain point, absolutely. Yeah. So, like, just getting your foot in the door is really difficult. Yeah, totally. People see Hardy and they're like, who the fuck is?

I think that it's almost like a placebo effect that like if you have, if you get a song sent to you and there's three giant hit songwriters who have written songs that you love, you're going to listen to that song differently than you are if it's three guys that you've never heard of in your life. Yeah. I just think it'll, it, I don't know if it tricks people, but it definitely doesn't hurt to see. Yeah. Like Ashley Goreley is number one. He's written like 80 something number ones and the next closest to him is like 45 or some shit like that. Yeah, he's the most successful. Ashley Goreley.

Ashley Goreley, pull him up, Sherry. I want to see you. That's so fascinating. It feels like like the country world. It's like I was going to be an artist and they felt like I had something. And then they're like, hey, Hardy's going to write your next song. It's like almost in my head like, oh damn, maybe I am kind of nice. You know what I mean?

Like they're kind of like pair everything together. But it sounds like they just have like a sheet of songs. That's more of what it is. Yeah. I mean, you have like camps and stuff where like, you know, like you're. a certain publishing company will go you know hold out at a we did like a cabin in Leeper's Fort

and like we would have artists come in and attempt to write songs for that person but really like it's you just the beauty of songwriting is that you just kind of go in and you write a song and it you know it gets sent to somebody and they fall

in love with it and the next thing you know it's a hit like that's there's so much blindness to songwriting there's a lot of strategy but at the end of the day the artist has to love the song. It could be the best song in the fucking world. And the artist might not like story songs. But like, and, and, you know, it could be, you could send, like, if I wrote whatever song

and send it to Cole Swindale, who's like, you know, I can use him because he's like a friend of mine. But like, and he's maybe not a big story song guy. And he could pass on it. And then I could send it to Cody Johnson. And then Cody Johnson be like, like, this is the best song ever and cut it and it becomes a hit. There's just no, like, it's just so no rhyme or reason to any of it.

It's all dependent on like that person's. taste what they think is a hit song it's just there's it's just all over the place what's the room like when you're walking into a like a a writer's round or whatever like if it's like a session yeah like three guys you don't know maybe yeah let's say you're younger in the game you're younger in the game and you're younger in the game and you're looking at some dudes that are like you know this like have you i don't know if you ever wrote with this ashley guy but yeah yeah yeah somebody like that where you're like this dude's a fucking dog what am i going to part of you's like how do i impress them yeah i mean so especially because

back young in the game dude it was it was crazy because like you when you so you would know that you had a hit writer coming up in your calendar so like my you know a publisher would text and say hey i got you a right let's say it ashley goarly i got you a right with ashley goarly in two weeks those next two weeks i'm going to be thinking of the best ideas that i possibly can i'm going to have verse starts and like melodies and like that that you have to come in prepared you don't have to but you probably should you know what i mean But dude, the crazy thing about early, like these days, man, you know it's such a small community of songwriters. You literally, there's no, you're never going in blind.

You know everybody. You've written tons of songs with everybody. You've sat in the room for hours. You just go in and you talk for a little bit. And then you're like, I got an idea called so-and-so. And you start writing. It's like, it's so casual. But back in the day, man, there is a, you have to have a little, you have to have like a mental strength of like, I'm about to walk into a room and sit with a person that I don't fucking know and share.

my ability, which might not be that fucking good for, you know, three or four hours and, like, pray to God that that collaboration works or else it's going to be the most awkward four hours of your fucking life. It's four hours. Sometimes just 30 minutes, dude. Like, sometimes the song just comes out. Sometimes it's eight hours. It just depends on the room and the people in the day and all that.

But back in the day, it was tough, man. So nervous. I see there's like a young, a young Hardy out there that's about to sit in a room with Hardy and earnest or something like that. They know they're going to. It's like, fuck. They're walking to the lion's dad a little bit. Yeah, yeah.

Like two homies. Yeah, bro. You know, they're hanging out. They have a rapport. They're going to say jokes. Like, do you laugh with them? Yeah. Yeah.

It's all that. It is all that. Yeah. And that's a good. I try to remember that as much as I can when I do get like a young writer or young artists that people believe in and think, which I'm not freaking, you know, I'm, I feel like I'm just still halfway there. But like to remember that there's kids, you know, A, to give young people a shot because

that's like people did that for me and that's how people you know you got to lift people up that you think are talented and a lot of times as people are younger yeah but um to think about people that come into a room and like you know they're playing it cool but maybe they're nervous and shit that's cool to think that you're the guy now that's like people are like you know they've they've done two weeks of prep and throw out ideas and stuff like and also shout out those guys that come in nervous but they don't seem nervous yeah sure this person's rad and at the end they're like yo I was so nervous but they're like you really that's totally crazy crazy easy. Yeah. So with writing, how do you, as you, now you sign your artist deal, you're starting

to do the art thing, artist thing that everyone's talking about. You've been cutting songs for everybody else. How do you differentiate? I want to keep this little nugget for myself because I want, I want my name to be big as opposed to giving out other things. How do you differentiate that? It kind of, it came easier over time. I mean, I definitely have a very polarizing sound. So that, that helps, you know, like of just like if it was like a rock thing or like, just, there's, there's just a certain type of song that I know sounds like me and that probably won't fit anywhere else. But the main thing is just like it's tough these days because I have a few, like I don't really sing like I'm not a sexy song guy. I don't, I don't, I'm still young.

So there's like if you write a song that's kind of from the perspective of somebody that maybe is like closer to 50 like like songs that are like remember that time in high school when we did this thing. kind of deal. I don't know. There's like certain, there's certain areas that I like just don't feel like I'm there yet or just kind of stay away from. But these days, it's a little more, it's easier to pick the ones that are for me because it seems obvious. But that was a struggle back in the day. And I'll tell you a funny story. My first number one was one beer was the name of that song. And when I wrote that song, I had a record deal. I just signed a record deal. And that song got sent to Dustin Lynch. That's the story that I hear. And I hear that Dustin really liked it. and that he was going to record it.

That's the story. Dustin, you can fact check this and completely call bullshit. But my manager, Seth, called me. I'll never forget. I was in Oxford. I was with Cali. And he was like, hey, what the fuck's up with this one beer song? And I was like, what do you mean?

He was like, you're not keeping that for yourself? And I was like, no. Like, that song is not. Because at the time, especially, I was like, Mr. Redneck, dude. And I just wanted to do like the super redneck shit. And this song was about like having a baby in high school. and like but how that turns into like a beautiful thing blah blah blah and uh and he and i got in a

legit full-blown like yelling argument over the phone about i was like you don't you know i just it was this whole thing about he was trying to tell me like i mean he was telling me like you're an idiot if you don't record this song and he point he straight up said this if you record this song it'll be your first number one and i'm like you're out of your freaking mind he talked me into recording it it was my first number one no shit so like there are there have been times where the opposite where instead of like this song is definitely for me

there's been times where I sent out a song and was like there's a note that this is not a me song and then I got a phone call it's like you need to take that back because this is definitely what's what's a song that wasn't a you song that you thought it was I mean the one beer being one but there was another one called Sign Sober You which was like early early on song and we had to take that away from John Party

apparently was going to cut it like the next week and I think Seth had to call his record label and be that's when it sucks is when like it gets sick with somebody and get a little chippy huh and you can they have to call and be like hey we're taking this one back and there's a there is a law called the or an act that was passed called the first usage law or act where basically if you don't have permission from any of the songwriters uh then you're not legally not allowed to record the song but only one time so like if i recorded it and it flopped john party could have recorded that and and put it out

problem. Like you, like, for example, because of the first usage act, you have to get permission from the songwriters to record the song for the first time. But after that, you don't have to get permission. So I could go, I could go re-record Morgan's dangerous album, top to bottom, and put it out and would not have to get permission from a single person. Really? Anybody could. You could. You could top to bottom record the Fleetwood Mac rumors, freaking Michael Jackson, thriller and you would not have to get permission from anybody. So why is there that giant gaping hole in the first act? I guess just the first time, I don't know, for some reason, like the first time that it gets

recorded. I don't know. You just have to get permission. All right. Somebody wants to record a song. You wrote it with Us Three wrote a song. Gee wants to record that song. I want him to.

Will wants them to. You don't want them to. You only need permission from one song, right? Got you. Yep. And so is there ever like a call back and forth with like you and earnest for like I want to this got to record? Totally. And that goes that can go that that situation can go 50 50 and it happens all the time.

Like you'll have you'll have a guy who has like let's say he was a young artist and he's a buddy of mine and he wants the song really bad. But you guys think that it could go to somebody that, you know, there's no there's no faith in him making money off the song because he's so young. nobody knows who he is. They might not play it on the radio. And then let's say Luke Brian loves the song. And but he's my buddy and I want to do him a solid. And I've got maybe some hits and I'm not worried about, you know, like that. But maybe you guys haven't had a hit yet.

And you're like, well, fuck that. I heard Luke Brian wants it. Yeah. Let's give it. Or like, why would you let him have it? This song is so good. Maybe somebody else wants it. Like there's a, there's, that happens from time to time.

But the Nashville, to me, like the Nashville way. And the thing, it kind of goes with the drop of word, take a third thing is, um, whoever wants it can have it. That's how I've always been. If you're the first person to get a hold of it and you really want it that bad, then take it. I feel like there's so many people that I look up to and like hit songwriters and stuff

that have that mentality. And I just think that that shit goes a long way. And and like Up Down is a great example. Again, I say that there's a song, Jameson Rogers, who is a buddy of mine. Some girls, he cut that song. He recorded that song before he had a record deal. and that ended up being his first number one.

No shit. So like you just, sometimes you just got to let people take it because you never know what's going to happen with it, you know? Yeah. Oh, snap. The mouse is dying in the wheel right now. The mouse is dying in the wheel right now.

Oh, are you essentially at a spot now where as you're writing music, you ultimately just in your mind, you're like, I'm writing the song for so-and-so. While also, and I guess simultaneously, you know, accepting your post- publisher being like, hey, you're going to write, you know, we said Blake Shelton, but you're going to write Blake Shelton's next song.

So there's a thing called a tip sheet, and they send it out like every week. And it basically whoever, somebody does all this research or whatever, it's not like a ton of research. It's just word of mouth. But they make a database of who is recording right now. So like, let's say Tim McGraw is at the top. And he's recording tomorrow. And Kenny Chesney is recording next week. And Morgan Wallin's recording over the next few weeks and blah, blah, blah, blah. And there's this long list of people, especially if I'm not like in a record cycle where I'm like writing for myself

or if I got plenty of songs and I know I'm like good for a while, like you'll, a lot of times you will look at that and be like, let's try to shoot for so and so. Like this person is recording tomorrow. What if we can get it to that person? They fall in love with it and they love it so much that they're like, screw this song I was going to record.

Let's record this one instead. Got you. Do you ever have songs that you write that you know this is the artist for it? And you just kind of holster it until that artist is essentially like recording. hey, they've finally made the tip sheet on there'll be recording in a month from now. Yeah, totally. And you're like, all right, this is the song I've been waiting for.

Yeah. And sometimes you'll be like, this song that we wrote sounds like this person and only this person. I'm going to wait like six months until I know this person's going back in the studio and then I'm going to send it to him. Because a lot of times people will listen to a song, like if I was going to send it to Keith Urban, whoever. And he isn't recording for, he has not going in the studio for a year. do you really want to send a song to somebody and have them listen to it and get tired of it over a year

and be like maybe there's something else better out there? Or do you want to wait till that two-week window where they're really listening to songs and let them fall in love with it then? So it's fresh, you know. Yeah. There's like a lot of, I mean, there's strategy to it. But again, there's no rhyme or reason.

That person could love that song two years from now and record it and take it to radio. It could be hit. But there is some, I mean, there's definitely some strategy, stuff like that that you try to think about, you know. That's fascinating. I love how many layers are of this game.

I know. It's super interesting to find out. I mean, sometimes that's what makes people hit songwriters. The creativity just is, you know, I'm sure you have downtimes, but like just 24-7.

Thinking about something. Stuff new, you know what I mean? He's like, Deer Stan just thinking to himself, I could write this song and that song. Yeah. That is wild. Do you put a lot of stuff down on your notes?

I'm assuming like notes, like that's app, like recording. Tons. I everybody, every songwriter in Nashville, every songwriter in Nashville has

probably in their notes app or whatever they have has a list of ideas in their phone. And dude, it could be, I mean, you've got to write down everything. If you think anything could be a song, you got to write it down. Because you just never know, that's what's so great about collaboration.

It's like you never know if you had a way to write it and it wasn't very good, but your buddy over here was like, ooh, what if you did it like this? And they kind of figured out the, they cracked the code to like how to write a simple idea or whatever that is. Yeah.

It turned that into like a great idea. I love the idea of collaborations, especially on songs. Like, how do you get someone to come on a song with you? Do you have to have the relationship or do the managers handle that? Like to put a song out together? Like, if you and jelly roll, we're going to do something together or something. Yeah. I mean, it's usually, especially these days, starts with like, it's like a, like your

homies with the person kind of thing. You know what I mean? Text it to them. Let's do this together. And, you know, sometimes they're like, you know, hey, I got a, I got tons of features right now. I can't do it or whatever, but a lot of times. And then there's sometimes, like, you'll write a duet or you'll record a duet and, and it could just be somebody you don't know, but you're a big fan of, and you get a hold of that person and just ask if they would want to

do it with you and they do it. Who are like some of the people you would love to do a collab with a feature with out there in the game right now that you haven't yet? Oh my gosh, man. Um, Jelly, Jelly and I have been talking for forever about doing a song together and we hit the other. You also haven't done one? No, not yet. We've only, we've only, we've only, only written one song together, but we haven't He's right though. He's still ascending. He still ascending.

Bro. When it does happen. I know, bro. It's crazy. I know. Maybe it's just the longer I wait, the bigger it'll be. Man,

I don't know. I've been so, so thankful to have been a part of so many cool collaborations. Maybe in the pop world, I don't even know, dude. I don't even know where I would start. I mean,

I said post Malone for forever, and then I got to be on that album, which was like insane. I don't know I'll have to circle back to that one You bought up a different genre If you did a different genre of music What would you want that genre to be?

Like if I did it myself Yeah Country's no longer an option to you I mean I would just fully lean into the rock and roll thing Yeah I think yeah But I would love I mean dude I would love to try to do like a hip hop Thing

I don't know Rap Yeah you want to get out there and rap a little bit I'm done my last My last out to bro What you go about snow dog I know a little bit about snow. My last album quit.

The first song on that album was I, it's, I, I, I wrapped in it. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. You fucked with it. That was you. Yeah, I like it. I think it's, I think y'all would fuck with it. I would love to hear it. Looking back, are you so happy that you took that leap to go to the artist world? I think so, yeah.

Because it seems like, like, I've never gotten to be at one of your shows, but I follow, like, all your Instagram stuff. And it just seems like you get on the road with, like, Errin and Morgan, like, obviously, Morgan's country and everything else, but it seems like you bring this rebellious style, just the theatrics of the show, it seems like it'd be really fun to be at, because you kind of have like this NWO style about you that gets added to the country mix of like an urn and a Morgan. Yeah, sure. I mean, we definitely, from the beginning, have treated it like a rock show, you know,

like just this energy and like a big party and that kind of thing. But, no, I haven't regret it. There's been a lot of times where I have. especially early on and dealing with like like a even just a little bit of fame and like

you know you guys know but like the sacrifices of not being able to go certain places and do certain things that you used to love to do and all that

and I think just that's been like a that was my biggest struggle but now that I've gotten over that man the ability the privilege

to move people and to give people a release from like their normal lives that might be giving them problems is like the coolest thing in the world which is like for me like our live show and like when we this year we did our first like real big headliner thing and played a lot of big like venues and and like I'm just looking out and thinking like man these people just came here to have fun and like I am providing that for those people it's like the coolest fucking thing ever that's awesome the live show thing is so sick like how much do you put into like the lights the fire everything because we did that music

video and there was that fire guy there. And he was talking about some crazy shit. And you're like, yeah, I could do that. Yeah, he was talking about the jacket. No, no, no, I haven't. But I'm, I have not forgotten about that guy. Yeah. And that's still a possibility.

Yeah. The, so a few months before every tour. So badass. So badass. I have a, uh, I know. I'll have a, um, like a production meeting and guys, you know, my, my, manager and, and my production manager and these people will, will, um, we'll sit down and we'll go through the set list and I'm good I got one in I know yeah uh we'll go through the set

list and just song to song be like what are you thinking for this you know and because we'll these days like we have a screen in the back and what's the content that you think you'll like and from the top down we just kind of go through that and you know the fire and stuff I leave that those moments or whatever like you know uh because it's not every song you know it's like you kind of pick and choose your fire moments and your smoke moments and all that stuff but I like to be as involved as I can in that stuff because I just think it's all a part of the creative ball. And like you can tell the difference between a well-crafted show

and a not well-crafted show, even if somebody that has a million hits, like you've got to have transitions and like talking points and moments and you have to have like the top of the show has to do this, right? And then it should bring people down so that when you do that again, it's more hype. You know what I mean? and there's like undulence to it.

And I like to be as involved as I can on that stuff. Because I think it all matters. Are you familiar with NF, the rapper? Totally. Dog, we went to his Bridgetown show. Yeah. And the level, I mean, the guy's got OCD. Like, he's very detailed in everything he does.

Yeah. But the screen behind him was like almost interacting with him. He knew where to be and when you'd be there. And then all of a sudden a balloon would come out of certain places. Yeah. And that does add such a crazy aspect. to everything. Yeah, the shopping cart move is so hard. It's so hard.

What was the shopping cart bit? What was that? He did like... You know, as he's like wheeling out with the balloon that hangs on the shopping cart? It's like one of his openers to... Oh, yeah, dude. One of his albums. But he had that rolling with the screen in the background. It was just... That's sick. Yeah. He's an act. He lives here. Yeah, he is. He's local boy. That's cool. I like... I like him a lot.

He does crush, dude. He's got like every white athlete in their feelings every time they Oh, he's ultimate fucking hype guy, right? Yeah, he hype, but also like he unpacks Maybe those 12 year old emotions that you head down for a little bit Get them boys to come back out. Yeah, bro, he is. He's elite in the emotional category. Absolutely elite in that.

But yeah, his shows are, his shows are dope. I need to go catch one, man. I haven't, I haven't seen him live yet. Yeah, it's cool. It definitely is. Do you get out to a lot of shows? I try to. Yeah, it's probably hard, right?

Yeah, I mean, there's a way to do it here where you can kind of sneak around or watch it And a, but also like, you know, if it's like a, whatever it may be a non-demographic of mine type show, me and Callie will just go, dude. For real? Yeah. I mean, it just, it depends on what it is. But, yeah, I mean, sometimes you can just go. Yeah.

A little date night. Yeah, you know, like we went and saw, who did we go see? It was a, it was like a year ago or so. And it was like, it was like, I think it was Jarl and like, um. No, it was Nelly. It was Nellie and Ashanti and, um, uh, I don't know, it was a million openers. I'm like, we just went to Travis Scott last year. Like, uh, yeah, I mean, there's, there's times for sure. But I wish that I could go to more. But I, I will say, when we play festivals and stuff, like big festivals in the summer, dude, I'm, I'm, I'm

on that stage watching everybody. Like, I love watching shows and just watch seeing how different people perform it. Because it's, it's like a, at the risk of sounding like a douche. It's like, it's an art form to like performing is like and how how are you able to manipulate a huge crowd of people is like it's a it's a it's a gift and I love watching people and I mean honestly like learning things from them like picking up moves and just things to say and things like that and I love it yeah what's who's the best you've ever seen where you're like holy shit I got up my game um man I only just saw him recently I'm trying to think of what was the best But I just saw him in Fenway.

But Post Malone is freaking dope. He, it's, it's, it's, there's a, there's a thing where like, when people don't have to try hard, but they are just so cool and they're so captivating, but they're not like trying to be. I don't know how to explain that. Yeah. It's like the way he'll, he'll have his cigarette. And he's, he's so in the moment it feels like with his art that it's, it's felt by everybody. Yeah. It's weird. It's hard to, yeah, it's a weird thing to try and explain.

And like, there's still like a space between the two, like the audience and him. But he's like, it's like, even when you're watching clips or anything else. It's like watching a tiger. Yeah. In the zoo. Right. Right. That thing's, look at it just being a tiger.

Dude, that's a great example. Yeah. That's a great example. He has these songs like better now, which is just like right down the gut, you know, like pop hit. And at the show, he'd just be like, you probably day, do that I. You know what I mean? It's like, it's kind of like Travis Scott has got to be number one, actually. I just thought, I just remember that.

I mean, his, his show. They do, like, back flips off of like... Dude, he does everything. Dude, it's, it's insane. There's, like, a video clip of him, like, his top 10, like, biggest, um, which I know he gotten, he gotten, like, or his, you know, some crazy stuff happening a show a while back, but, like, there's a, there's a, that, that's the shot right there. Bro.

He's, like, up on top of some fucking 10 foot fire hydrant thing. And that, what I've, what I love about that is, is his, his music does not reflect his live show. His music is just like hip hop But it's not The songs itself are not this overly Insanely hype thing It's not like ridiculous But then you go see it live

In the culture that he has created As a live performing artist Like Fien is just like When you listen to it You know who doesn't love Fien But like When it's live It's like it's like he's at a fucking metal festival

I mean it's just like People are going bananas And it there's just a a crazy translation between his his music and how just the live culture and people just know to act a complete and total fucking fool his live show. That's

the funnest show I've ever been to by far. That's fucking dope, dude. Yeah, I know he does some crazy shit. The Morgan Wallen Walkout. It's so iconic, it's so popular. But it's something like that to where it's so cool and popular that I'm sure the boys, you have to almost chirp him

to bring him down a little bit. Did you see the video we made? No. We made a video with me and Earn were like picking out him about it. No shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pull that up.

Earn, it was, Earn posted it on his like Instagram. Every time I see him do a different walkout, I think of you and Earn and I'm like, I wonder if the boys like chirp him. Like, how about Peyton Manning coming out in full uniform?

Yeah, I know, right. That was hilarious. It's a cool thing that he is, he is, uh, that Morgan is done with that. It really is. Brings like a game day element,

game day atmosphere. Yeah. For sure. In my mind, I'm like, I know the boys got a chirpard. No, that one's not it.

that one's not it. This one is like, we're walking. It's like in a hallway. It's, it's, it's in there somewhere. It's, it's, he just got the haircut, so it's a little further down. The urn is like that in the writing. Uh, shit. I can see. Maybe that's too far. I can't remember. I'll tell you the date was around like, um, it was in, uh, September. But dude, yeah, I mean, like Morgan is our, I mean, he's before anything, before anything, he's just our buddy. So like, yeah, yeah, you got to do. Yeah, for sure. I know you got to be out in 15. So let's twist a question to your talk. Yeah, let's hit. Let's rip it. We're wearing our costumes. Let's bring it back to Spooktober.

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Actually, can we get Sherman in the Batman voice? I don't know we were getting Batman. Yeah, let's get Batman and Sherman. Where is she? Yeah. you asking it in Batman, dude, please? I'd love to. Would you rather get the biggest hall of all time while trick-or-treating

or hand out the biggest hall of all time? Hand out 100% dude. Yeah. Because the joy you would get for just seeing all the kids, dude. I don't know what that would be, but hand out for sure. I agree. It's like when you get to the spot where you want to hand out some king-sized stuff and you just, you're smiling because you know they're so.

Yeah, I'm smiling right now. In my head, I'm doing it right now. There's something about dusk and the early trick-or-treaters coming to your house. The first one, it's the first one, dude. And you hand him that king-sized candy bar, whichever one it is, and he takes it, looks around, and goes back to his boys. Because you know there's a whole new game of telephone happened. Five minutes later, he might be back in a different outfit with all of his boys. And you know, like, at the end of this evening, I'll be out of candy and there will be a lot of kids bouncing off.

the fucking walls at their house and it's all going to be because of me. Yep. And maybe even puking later, dude. Yes. You know what I mean? And you know, too, if you're handing out the biggest hall, there's even the part to scratch your ego a little bit. Like if they're coming to your house first or it's a newer trick or treater just knowing

you're not going to get this anywhere else. Dude, the shitty part about my house is I get no trick or treaters. I know. Oh, true. Yeah. It sucks. But what I think I want to do this year, I'll have two days to do it, three days to do it. But I want to get like this giant cauldron and put it like in my driveway and just

fill it with candy. Oh, that's cool. And just see if Oh my God. So you know what you should do next year we should host like a trunk or treat. Yeah, that'd be sick. I'd be into that. Where people go to like a parking lot and you just trick or treat out of your trunk and you hand out candy. There's some around Nashville. Dude, I have a great nature. We should have to be massive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we should host a trunk or treat. I think that'd be sick. That'd be fun. That would be be absolutely. And you're about to enter a sick phase too. Oh my God. When your little

one's old enough to trigger treat and just like getting them in the spirit. They're scared of everything kind of like hey daddy's got you yeah i'm in peak mode with that right now i'm i woke up this morning went grab myself a nice little workout came home my daughter was a butterfly she's so ready we had that party yeah yeah she's already ready dude she's up she's a butterfly she's ready to go it's fucking it's juicy hey but i'm sorry to interrupt but have you uh i just got a new crossbow yesterday look brian sent me a crossbow yeah you still want to go yes it's completely It's completely legal. I put up a deer camera in his backyard last year.

Oh, really? He got some studs. Got some studs. Yeah. Our relationship kind of started that way. Did it not? Yeah. One of the first texts I ever said you was, can I put a deer camera in your backyard?

I was like, I don't think your name was saved in my phone, but I was like, yeah. Then every once in a while, he'll just be like, hey, I was over at your house today. I had to change the batteries. They're just thinking, I don't know if I can let you kill one of these animals on. He used to ask, and now I just feel like he just goes. And every once in a while, they're like a truck in my parking line, but he's going. He must be here, man. Just doing his thing.

But yes, yes, I really do want to go. Because we went with Steve Renella and I did that meat eater thing. The duck hunting. Yeah. He did the duck hunting. I thought that was really cool. And so super green. Have no idea how to do it.

But the crazy thing, okay, you can legally do it. It's completely legal. You have to be like 500 feet from your house, which is super easy. And the crazy thing is if you kill a deer, you can only hunt with a bow in town, right? If you kill a deer and it goes into. somebody else's yard. The only caveat is that you have to legally go to that person's front door and either ask or attempt to ask if you can retrieve your dead deer from their yard. Oh, really? That's it, though. That's all. And so we can do this in my backyard.

We can do it up in your, yeah, like up in your... Oh, my God. That was you? Yeah. Where was that at? That was in Louisiana. That was a, that's what they, that's what real hunters, they frown upon, but I had never done it. It's called, that's a high fence deer. So like, yeah. I've done, I don't know. A little is a big support of my fence. He loves himself about it. I like to go on the trips, but we go down in South Texas.

Yeah. Nil guy. Have you ever heard of Nil guy? Yeah. So the South Texas antelope, we go after those. We get after some white tail. But it's a fun trip.

I go on it every year. And then people talk about the high fence thing. I'm just thinking like, I'm just trying to have some fun. Yeah, right, right, right. People get mad at the high thing in the world. Yeah, people get upset about that.

It's always crazy when there's like these little bastards in America in a high fence. Oh, yeah. That feels a little squirly to me. Yeah, yeah, people killing zebras and shit like that in Texas. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's wild. But yeah, I'm not... It's kind of like a petting zoo.

It's kind of like, uh... It kind of is, right? You know what sounds sick is, though, is the whole helicopter assault rifle game? I think that would be so sick. That seems like a fun little deal. Do hog hunting, some night vision? Yeah. Oh, I've done the...

I've not done the helicopter. I was going to do it one time and I'm left-handed. We were in such a small helicopter that you had to be right-handed to be actually be able to shoot because the guy's control thing is on the right side of the... I'm a lefty as well. I'm a left. I'm a lefty also. Three lefties? Three lefties.

Um, but yeah, the, the night vision thing is sick. And if you guys ever need a hookup, I know like a million people that do that. And it's fucking, we should.

I have a video. I'll show you just have them. They have them that record that you can hit record on your thermal scope. And then like it, it records it so you can get to see like your... Have you ever done the hog hunting with a knife? Yeah. What?

That sounds insane. I got buddies that have their dogs and shit. Yeah. Yeah. Hugs at school are so terrible. Hugs at school are so terrible. So, It's awesome. It sounds like poking a hole in a fucking like a CO2 cartridge or something, dude.

Poking a hole in a CO2 cartridge. It's just like, we'll go into. Look at the size and you fucking go in. Those dogs are called cur dogs. They're baying dogs. That's what they do. So you send up like four or five cur dogs out and they go find the pig and they work together to bay it. So they keep it, you know, they work to where they circle it up.

You know what I mean? Right. And then you have a pit bull or some sort of bulldog. And once you realize, once you can kind of hear that the, the pig is is bait up like you can tell because like he's nipping at the dogs like all the dogs are barking but you'll hear a dog kind of whine or whatever like he's that you can just tell and then they just let that fucking pit bull loose and he runs in there and he grabs it somewhere and just holds it down and then people go in and just take it down yeah that is a way different than I thought it would be

I literally thought it was like the ending scene of the gray like you kind of just you're just down there by yourself just square off with them not that's the deal I'm too like emotionally attached to dogs because I hear the stories of guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's casualties for sure. Yeah, that's real. But these guys that, the guys that do this, those dogs are their tools. You know what I mean?

It's a different mentality. Like, that is, they're not, it's not their pets, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, having a dog, what's up, Sher? Oh, five minutes. Having a dog that does everything you say, I have not ever had the luxury of that happening in my life. Waffle is not that type of animal.

But it's something about that, dude. I've been around people with like, hey, go look at the dog, go wait in the truck, and they'll just run and, go sit in the truck. Oh yeah. I've never really had one like that. Oh, I've seen that too. Yeah. Pull the fridge and grab one. Yeah, it has a little rope on the fridge. Yeah. As you get that and they'll talk about shot collar training. I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Shot collar is a little wild. Yeah. Yeah. I do my little husky I got over there though. She got that shot collar on 24-7. I'm thinking about getting a shot collar for

waffle. For what? Get that thing to listen, bro. Waffle don't listen to shit. She don't do anything. We need her get off the damn couch when it's not to get off the couch. It's always a fight. What kind of dog's Waffle? Bulldog. What kind of Bulldog? Just an underbite Disey. Tricolor. English Bulldog. Yeah, yeah, English Bulldog. I'm thinking how many different Bulldogs, but yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's Waffle right there. Talk to him about how much you love that dog now. Love Waffle. However.

Tongue always out. I loved, I was obsessed with Waffle until Rue came. And that's when the kid kind of shifted it. Oh. The kid kind of shifted it. We still have our moments. Like, she's a good pup. I give her some belly rubs. That's awesome. My goal every day is to give her enough love to where Charo acknowledges like,

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addictive chemical let's get back to this episode tear talk and then we got to get seen you out of here tier talk is going to be so tier talk is very simple i know you watch a show religiously but i'm explain for those who haven't seen it before. We're going to do candy bars. So you're going to start off. You can give an honorable mention if you want. Okay. And then you're going to go your tier three, your tier two,

and then finally your tier one, which will be your favorite. Okay. Add a little story to it if you want. If there's a reason for some nostalgia, go for it. But Will, as always, kicks it off right away. So go ahead, Will. Oh, I do. Oh.

And then after you go, we're going to go around the bus. Everyone gets one word to describe how they felt about your tier talk. Okay. My tier three is going to be a Kit Kat bar. I love Kit Kat bars. I'm not somebody who goes on my way to get a Kit Kat bar, but when I do on Halloween, I very much enjoy the Kit Kat bar.

My tier two, when people have them, Heath is one of my favorite candies. A Heath Bar is one of my favorite candies. I love putting them in ice cream. I love the Heath Blizzard of Dairy Queen. I love Heath bars, and then you throw some caramel on top in the ice cream. I know I'm getting off the path with Spookober.

Halloween, when people have Heath bars, it fires me up. My tier one, and it's a no-brainer for me, but it's a fast break. It's a Reese's fast break. That is an absolute no-brainer. If you get a king-size one, when we go on our fall tour trips and we stop at the gas station, I'm always getting a king-sized fast break. But a fast break, a Reese's fast break, is my number one candy in the world. Yeah, that's good.

And that concludes my teetong. Seasoned. Vengeance. Mitch. Fire. Tasty. accurate adequate oh adequate yes

do you want to go last year a little writer I'm ready okay all right tier three uh the hersey's cookies and cream bar uh wow

I loved it as a kid but I can't really eat it much as an adult because I feel like if you eat the whole thing it just makes me feel like I'm gonna fucking I was gonna say it gets the tummy going a little bit but yeah very like one or two little of the one or two look because it's sections you can ration it a little bit bit, you know? Yeah, a little delicacy with your child. Tier two is a Snickers bar, but with the

almonds and not the peanuts. Dude, and for an added bonus, frozen. So fucking good. And for me, all tired up with that one. Number one is Heathbar. It, dude, there's just, Toffee is, is undefeated, dude. Heathbar, number one, frozen ice cream, whatever it is. I love, this is the most fat-ass thing. Everybody, I love how I get stuck in your teeth and you get to eat it again. Yeah, bro. Save some for later. Yeah,

on that top roller. Like I'm gonna save you 30 minutes from now. 100%. Love. And that concludes my tear talk. Love. Almost. Justice.

Interesting. Veteran move hyphenated. Hyphenated cookies and cream. Lost me with the almonds. The almonds for sure, but may that be a little bit. All great selections. All great selections. Let's get started.

I'm going to give an honorable mention to the payday. I think the payday is delicious. I like as a child take all little peanuts off myself one at a time and then enjoy whatever that little caramel center is. That little caramel bar in the middle is delicious. My tier three is going to go to the Heath Bar. And I think it's only gotten better for me as I've gotten older. I don't think I respected the Heath Bar as I should have when I was a young buck, a young child. My tier two is going to go to the packets of Sour Patch Kid Watermelons when you're able to get them.

Sometimes a Sour Patch kid, this is just a regular bag, that'll do well. For those of you that don't know me, Hardy, you might not know this about me. Much more of a gummy guy than I am a chocolate guy. However, because the bag size, it doesn't make my tier one. He's got some sweetness to him. Yeah, and my tier one is going to be your classic Reese's peanut butter cups. There's something special about having those two little bastards sitting there looking to you talking shit. They happen to be the first ones to catch a casualty when you open up that pillowcase after the night is over of ravaging.

neighborhoods and that is my dear talk. Well done. Inconsistent. You're going to love me hyphenated. Stuck in your teeth hyphenated.

Payday. Excellent. Wow. Recy's care to elaborate. Candy bar, dude. That was what the two, that was what it was what it was though, right? Oh, so the.

So your two in your one was not a candy bar, you know? Fair enough. That's all fair. Nice pickup right there. Way to be a detailed guy. Yeah. Detailed, creative, handsome.

What doesn't he have? Yeah, he's playing some defense right now. That's good. Reesies is like to me the best candy brand. Like you just, there's so much variety. There's so much range.

Reese's pieces. Then when you get towards Eastern, you got the little eggs. Oh yeah. Halloween. Halloween did they do the pumpkins? Yeah, you got a white chocolate line if you're,

yeah. They do it right. They know how to do it. Yeah. But yeah. But I love how you always get the Reese's, the Reese's, tree for Christmas.

It looks nothing like a tree. No, and then also like they somehow survive until next Christmas and you open it. It's all white and shit. You know what I mean? It's like. Yeah. That's what you're telling you. Yeah, 100% are you kidding me?

Boys, let's give a round of applause. Hardy, that was awesome, man. Thank you all. It's been a long time coming. I know. Dude, it really has. I can't believe this the first time. We've been trying for like two years.

I know. More than that, bro. I feel like longer than that. It'll be busy. I'll get lazy. It's a horrible combination to get some stuff on. We had a couple times dialed in. all apart.

Yeah, what was that? Oh, Beer Olympics next year. You're coming? Yeah. Give me a day. I will have a six-month-old, but maybe we bring her.

Yeah, bring her. Strapped up. Cal's got to go out of the year. Yeah, totally, totally. Just bouncing her up and down. Yeah, that's awesome. That'll be all the time. We do appreciate you coming out.

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