Bussin' With The Boys - TJ Hockenson

Episode Date: August 16, 2022

Recorded: July 21, 2022 | Detroit Lions stud & friend of the show TJ Hockenson joins the boys for this week's episode and it does not disappoint. Intro (0:00) Training camp update (10:00) Shoutout "no free shoutout" Of The Week (17:30) TJ Hockenson interview starts (33:50) TJ's recruiting struggle & path to the NFL (42:00) Getting through training camp (53:00) Dan Campbell vs Vrabel in a fight (1:00:20) Differences between Campbell and Patricia (1:14:45) Attitude towards contract negotiations (1:51:10) Tier Talk "Best Disney Movies" (2:16:00) Tier Talk 2.0 "Best Lion King Characters (2:31:00) ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ----- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Chevy: Chevy Silverado - Learn more about the Chevy Silverado at https://barstool.link/ChevyBarstool Duke Cannon: Use code “Bussin” at https://barstool.link/DukeCannonBSS for 15% off your first order. Sport Clips: Sport Clips. The Pros in Men’s Hair. Upside: Download the FREE Upside App and use promo code BUSSIN to get $5 or more cash back on your first purchase of $10 or more.For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We wanted to wait until the podcast. Yeah, yeah, no question. As soon as I walked in here, here's how I like to think when I'm gone for a little bit, how it's going to go. And I just wanted to say before I even get to the end of this story, it never goes how I want it to. When I'm gone for a little bit, your boy's missing the boys. I'm up late at night.

I'm having bad dreams. What if they don't love me anymore? What if we don't have the same camaraderies we used to? What if? What if? But then I think when I come back, there might even be a standing ovation. There might be the back of the bus completely full of dudes just with a fat clap saying, hey, welcome back, Tay.

We missed you, babe. Unfortunately, that's not what happens. I come in here, I pull up to our amazing shed, which, by the way, the AC is cranking great because it's a little muggy outside today. Thank God we're not practicing. And I'm thinking, I want to see Blossie, I want to see Garrett, I want to see Jack, I want to see JP. I know I'm missing on the boy, but maybe the boys will bring the energy for me. I come in, I open the door.

I talk about how spookier lighting it is because we all know that spooktober is right around the corner. And these boys are like, hey, so how are you, Dan? That was it. That was it. Not a whole lot of love back there, wasn't it, Jackie. Yeah, there really wasn't. Energy's been a little low because, as you can see, it's just us three. Yeah.

But I'm never in doubt that the energy cannot surge up at any given moment. At any moment, baby. How about this? Let's give a round of applause for Taylor being back on the ball. That's not for me. That's not for me, baby. We're back. And you know what hasn't come out, but it's going to make us more back than ever?

And keep the camera on Jackie real quick. And if you could zoom in on Jack's incredible hat, those boys aren't out yet. And I know Will knows the timelines because, listen, that man is, he's running the show while daddy's away at camp. All right. There it is. You didn't zoom in on it. It was tough.

We're missing in here. We're here to do it. That hat is, is that the Raiders edition one? I believe so. That black and silver piece. And I know Will talked about our best, our best and greatest demographics in the last podcast. Yes, I did listen to the intro.

He mentioned Big Red. He mentioned Nebraska. Those boys out there in Omaha, Lincoln, everywhere in Nebraska. I've absolutely been showing up for the boys. Obviously, Will, referred to it, the origin story, how we became a thing, the Tennessee Titans fans

are obviously always there for us. And also, my boy literally dipped his toe. Dipped his toe in the hot tub at the Oakland Raiders, was the Oakland Raiders, then was the Las Vegas Raiders, basically just showed up, had a quick cup of coffee and bugied. But the Raider fans,

ma'am, shout out you guys for being epic fans and just buying into everything that we're doing. Now, this is a cry for help, dude. This is an SOS. If I was in the Titanic right now, I'd be hitting that little thing. Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Just calling my boys in Ann Arbor. I know the football team backs us.

I know a hard ball is a homie. I know the whole squad inside the building is absolutely loving the boys every single day. I would love to have an olive branch to stand on, to sit here and be able to look at Will and the eyes and say, hey, them boys in Michigan are coming. They're absolutely coming. And the only way for you to do that is just absolutely

just fill our mentions. If you're going to go to Twitter, you're going to go to Instagram, your boys off social media, but listen, I'm always welcoming followers. I'll be back high and mighty and five. You know what, dude?

And here we go, because I got a thing here. Maybe we can get the followers up because your boy's going to throw his hat in the ring in the million club too. Also, obviously Will did that. Your boy wants to be in that million club also. And it's tough to get that

when you're not tweeting every five seconds of the day. Not sure how Will is such a great dad. He's an outstanding dad. It's amazing how he's able to be on the bird at all times. But maybe we do an update of Taylor LeWan's followers. every week in the intro. And that's not for me, because I won't really,

I'll be in and out and all around. Your boys got to play a lot of ball, but maybe you guys just kind of see where we're at. Maybe we can jump those numbers up. You want to check it right now? Check in right now. I can't look though, dude. I can't look.

This is like AA, dude. So we don't even tell you. We just kind of. Just tell me what my followers are at right now. I don't need to look at my profile though because I'll dive in. You're at 155,000. Okay. 155.1 to be exact.

I'll take the point one. I'll take the point one. All right, hit me up on Instagram. We'll see what we got here. You might benefit from Jack or me running your page for, you know. I've thought about that. I thought about that. But then it's like, all this man back.

Oh, I almost looked. I almost look. I follow at J.Hubby 34. Yeah, and then boys get their followers up on that. All right. And you're 2.10 on Instagram. So 1.505 on Twitter, 2.10 on Instagram. And it's not a bad start, boys.

That's a solid foundation for the start of the season. It's all about perspective because me and JP are back here grinding for 4 and 5. It's just, it's a constant battle. It's a constant battle. It's a battle that I've unfortunately stepped out of for the greater good of the Tennessee Titans. So you guys are welcome. Absolutely welcome. As a fan of the Tennessee Titans and not just your employee, extremely honorable move.

So I'll always die on the sword for you out there. But that does bring up something. I know we're removed. This will be coming out Tuesday, but our Tennessee Titans played first preseason game on Thursday. That's right. And today is Thursday when we're filming this right now. The boy, obviously the boy's not there right now. Me and several other gentlemen did not travel to the game.

But preseasoners are tough, man. It's hard. You got to find out the guys you need and the guys you want. And obviously, I'm not here to say who's going to do what and all that. But I'm stoked. I am so fired up. Plus, it's Baltimore. And for whatever reason, those guys have a heart on for us.

We'd love all the fans in Baltimore to come over to the bus, maybe learn about us and, you know, catch a vibe. Catch a vibe with the boys. but if you're in Baltimore and for whatever reason you guys don't like us because that whole shady deal of us going on the 50-yard line and breaking it down which let's get over that right and then you guys do it to us in the playoffs

which disrespectful right so now we've had a didn't mean to be disrespectful to obviously being disrespectful and now the Ravens are you know that's that squad that's not in our division but low-key there's a nice little rivalry there right you hope to see him at some point

got Lamar Jackson out there who's a future future guests on our podcast, unbelievable guy. I'm excited to see how the boys do. And I'm excited to see how the operation is because there's a lot of changing at the guard, right? Every single series, there's new guys coming in and guys coming out and you're going from this personnel, the next personnel from an offensive standpoint.

Usually in the game, you have your five-ons offensive linemen. But every couple of series dudes are coming in, they're moving guys around and all that. And I'm really excited to see how the boys handle that unique. adversity when it comes to the preseason. I'm really excited to see how the O line does. I think not even speaking on talent,

we have probably from a bonding chemistry standpoint, maybe the greatest offensive line of all time. Just from a bonding, the boys are boys. I'm not going to sit here and talk about who's good, who's not, and everything in between, because that's just your boy begging to get on a team meeting with Rable and just get verbally assaulted, which he's, we know Raibos, what, a tier three?

He's got to be at least a team. Tier three. He's got little birds out there. He's got little birds out there. He's watching everything we're doing. I'm guarantee you right now. He's just sucking on a jewel going to these motherfuckers right now. These fucking guys.

I mean, I don't watch all the time. But he's here. He's watching it, right? He's watching. Vrabel is, man, Vrabel is just in his element right now. The way he's handling camp, just mother effing some dudes once in a while,

but he's got a great little, he doesn't seem tight. He seems like he's just, you know, in his element of like, hey, having a good time. watching the boys. And I think the boys are working extremely hard right now. And I'm just talking about the offense line.

It seems like the boys are, we know what we're supposed to do. And we're asked a lot on the offensive line. Oh, don't pull the social media up, Jack. Okay. I almost looked right there, and I almost got back on it just now.

Just like that, I almost got back on it. But the boys are working extremely hard. And the weather's been, I tell you what, the weather's been love, the first five or six days, love. Because, you know, late June, July, it was in the hundies. You're in those triple digits. You're sitting in the triple digits and you got the mugginess and what goes on in Tennessee.

Body. You're talking about an IV after every single practice. You got them treadmarks like a heroin addict, dude. You are looking rough, dude. It's a tough, tough, tough deal. I think, but I've been loving this training camp, man. It just feels, it's obviously training camps are a grind. And we have Hawkinson on this week.

And we talked about training camp a little bit. We talked about a lot of things. We'll dive into that after Shadow. I don't know if you shout out of the week. But, ma'am, it's been a, it's just a grind. But it's been like a good grind. Like you, it seems like everyone's like pushing the cart in the right direction. Pushing the car in the right direction.

I know there's been a couple of media articles out probably about, I don't know, me and Jamarco getting in a little altercation. Here's the best part about Jamarco. Here's the greatest thing. Is your boy an instigator? There's no question about it, right? I do like to say I poke. I'll sit in a room full of people and they might be arguing and then I feel it all calming down.

And I'll go, well, what about this? And the other guy's like, oh, what about this? And he gets real upset. So there was a situation with me and Jamarco, you know what? Having an altercation with somebody and then coming off the field and squashing it immediately should be a shadow, no free shadow of the week. The maturity of coming, hey, man, I did this. He's like, I did that.

And we just moved on. Just boys being boys. I fucking love Jamarco Jones, dude I fucking, I love that guy. He went to Ohio State too. Garbage school. I mean, he's got a terrible taste.

Terrible taste. But what a guy to have on the team, man. Works super hard. So I'm stoked to have him on the squad. I think it's time. Well, here, there's some, while you've been gone on social media

are friends over a part of my take on Monday after their Aaron Rogers episode, they do Mount Rushmore. They did a, draft on what head coach in the league you would won on your side in a street fight. Yeah. And Dan Campbell went number one overall.

Oh. And Mike Rable went too. And after seeing hard knocks this past week, I was obviously Mike Ravel number one draft pick. But I got a doubt. After seeing the hard knocks of Dan Campbell, the dude is on another low. He's got juice for days. And we talked about that, the Hawkinson podcast. We talked about that.

Who's, you know, who's going to win in that street fight? And I feel like at first when Hawkinson was talking, he was like nervous about it. Like how far do I go into this? But as we kept talking more and more, he got more and more confident about, you know, oh, Dan, he doesn't work out at all. But now he's, but he's still jacked.

And the guy's got big hands. He can do X, Y, and Z. I'm taking Rabel in that fight. I am. He's a scrappy cat. We've seen him hit the pad, though. We've seen him hit the bag, dude. Pull it up.

If you're on YouTube right now, pull that bitch up, dude. And it's just playing as I'm talking to you. That man with yellow card playing too. I mean, he's a psychopath. That's some straight mom. Get out of my room type music. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. He got some hatred in those fists. Some absolute hatred. Jack, it's unbelievable how you pulled it up that fast. Shout up part of my take for doing that. I saw Vrable was at the top of somebody's list. Was that Billy's?

It was like a draft order. So Vrable went second overall. Second overall. I believe it was Billy and Jake. Where are we at? You know, one and two, man. One and two. And I think that's really about the,

of the day what we all want to see. Who else would really buddy from the Jets, and I know we had this conversation, but buddy from the Jets, bald head, he looks like he's in shape. Like he might do a little something extra that would pop him for a drug test type stuff. You know, he looks he looks solid, but I don't think there's

any other coaches out there. Yeah, that's a strong man. He's got a good he's got a girthy neck on him. You can just tell he can take a punch probably. He can take a punch for sure. And would like it. And would like it. Eat it and smile at you with a tooth missing. You're like, holy I kind of got myself into a bit of a scrap.

Didn't I? So I think I love, I think they're doing that just to bug us and I'm not going to overreact because they know we watch their stuff and they watch our stuff. Love Baycats. Love those boys.

But I think Rable takes that 10 out of 10, dude. Yeah. Man. That's a tough one. I would say it is time for the greatest segment

of our podcast. And that would be the shoutout of the week, boys. Let's get it in. And we got to keep a little juice because we're missing a bunch of guys right now and it doesn't quite feel as right, but you got to play through the adversity

the way you can. So we would usually start with Blas. Obviously, he is not here. He's working. Did you say he's working? He's back on the badge. Can my man even catch anybody right now? No, he's behind the desk right now.

Oh, he's desk duty. Desk pops. He's desk pops all day. When did you do your last one? November and 86. We're going to start with our man, J.P., who I believe got 10 bongs yesterday for being a little extra horny in our group chat.

10 bongs, is that what you got? I was excited that you were coming back. Well, you didn't show it. I think the bongs, I think the bongs in the text made you maybe not be as excited to see me this time. Like, maybe it's going to be awkward between us. I know. I wanted to put a big man smiley face at the end of my message yesterday.

Can't wait to see you tomorrow, big man. Oh, that'd have been a nice little deal. But, you know, Jack wouldn't let that fly. You know, he don't play none of that. Yeah. He don't play none of that. Flag on the play. Flag on the play.

What you got for us, J.P. So this week, I am a little bit unprepared. Are you really? Yeah. You know, Will goes to Hawaii and everything just goes to shit, doesn't it? I just been grinding on all of next week's content. You guys have been putting and work in, dude. For those of you, while you get your thoughts together, I'm just going to hit this real quick.

And I know you guys are at the edge of your seat, wondering what the shout out, I know if it's coming, right? if you got you any of your seat for a little bit, it's maybe going to mean a little bit more when it does come. The boys, I was unfortunately not able to make it because your boys playing ball, but you guys went to Green Bay. You need to be looking at your computer and figuring out what you're doing

for your shadow and effort. I got it. I got it. The boys went to Green Bay and they did just an absolute, just like spring football tour. You guys are a ripping podcast, left, right and center. Obviously, the big name that you're all going to be excited to hear about is Aaron Rogers.

He's on Pat McAfee show every week, right? Once a week. does a phenomenal job with that. One guy that I'm excited to see how he talks and how he is handling everything right now is David Bactiari. Huge fan of Bactiari. You know he's a boy just by the number he wears.

But he also has a great personality. He's funny. He's just a great... You would say it in high school. He's bubbly, right? He has a nice little vibe to him. You guys said, AJ dealing on. Preston Smith LaFleur came on.

Who's ACL. Probably got the biggest piece in the league. We're probably thinking, Matt LaFleur, if you just whip them things out, that boy's packing. There's no question. He walks hips first, so that's a bit of a deal for him. Now, with that being said, you're going to enjoy all that.

We're going to two episodes a week too, correct? Correct, for four weeks. For four weeks. And that's exciting stuff. Obviously, the more content we can give you guys, the better. But JP, have I filibustered this enough for you to get your boots under you? You did. I really appreciate that.

Anything for the boy, big man. Smiley face. So I've been cooking a lot recently. When you cook, it means you also have to clean. I also don't go to the store that much. So sometimes I lack on my cleaning supplies. So recently, I've been using a very mushy, soft sponge, which is just dirty and filthy.

It's like you're wiping your plate and it just gets more dirty almost. Oh, that's a tough sponge. So I'm like, oh, God, I really hope we have one. Open the cabinet, crispy, firm sponge in there. Fresh yellow and green boy? Yes, fresh yellow and green boy. Exactly. My shout-out, no free shout-out goes to fresh, crisp, yellow and green boy sponges.

Dude, that is probably one of the most underrated shout-out, no-free shout-out to the week, because you've been there. We've all been there where you look at your sponge or you look at that towel you're using to kind of clean everything off, and you're like, fuck, am I just doing more damage than I'm actually doing, like, benefiting the situation?

And for you or your girl or whoever to put that yellow green boy in there, knowing that there's going to become a day where you're going to have to use it, Looking forward, that's just maturity, by the way. Looking forward, what an incredible situation for you to go through. And I'm super happy for you and also your dishes. And the hygiene of your life.

I believe that's hygiene, right? What you put in your mouth? Yeah, we can tell whatever we want. Next up, obviously, Jack McPherson, the lady killer, not just the ladies, but the mother killer, dude, the Miltfe Hunter himself. McPherson on here rocking an absolutely beautiful tie-dye blue shirt. rocking that new the boys had that will be coming out very soon for those three specific brands we talked about. Ann Arbor needs you show up. Michigan needs you to show up big time.

Let's see what you have for shoutout. No free shout out of the week. Yeah, so my shout out, no free shout out of the week, goes to saunas and steam rooms. Oh. And I know you can get behind this because I know you're like infrared sauna guy, but I'm a little bit more blue collar. I hit that YMCA.

Oh, buddy. And I've been getting back in the consistent. A lot of me. Is the distance of going to the Y, at least like two or three days just hit the sauna. Because you know I'm on that gym regimen all day. My boy out there grinding. But I'm hitting that sauna in the seam room. And it's something different about like a big Y.

You're in there and it's like might be a guy your age. And then there's like a dude who's 70 next to you just hang an absolute brain. Like walking around. Blood ass naked. And just no shame in his eyes. He's seen a thousand lives. And you're kind of there like covering up like. Got to.

You know, I don't want this guy to see my day. Yeah. But then all of a sudden, you're like, maybe he, you know, maybe he just doesn't give a shit. So there's a nice, like, no judgment zone there. So you go in the sauna, you get right, come out, feel refreshed, get a little reset, and you get on with your day. So I'm a steam room guy. I know, like, people are, like, very heavy stance on sauna versus steam room.

But whenever you're just getting a good sweat in, that sweat equity is, it tallies up. So when you meet with this gentleman. So the shout-off is, he making a song. out the naked dudes at the YMCA. I mean, maybe. So more just the non... I mean, and if you've been in that YMCA or just any major gym before

where there's a big locker room, you know the vibe I'm explaining. Yeah. The old men in there with just zero shame in the world. It's not like they should, but, you know, us younger guys are, we're walking around there, toweled up. These dudes are just, like I said,

hanging absolute brain walking around and shit is dragging on the floor. Like, I mean... Yeah, dude, the, uh, the dudes are out there walking around. I feel like when you, when you were in this situation, you saw him being so shameless about his meat and pieces. Would that make you more

comfortable to maybe let loose a little bit? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Jack, I, I loved you being open. And I'm not going to say, this is the best shout. I've never heard of my life. I'm going to more give you a warning. If you're at that YMCA or that 24-7, then you got some dudes hanging brain out

and you are like, maybe I'll loosen this towel up to you. I'll just going to be a hirlo other boys. That's what they want you to do, Jackie. They want a, them boys are trying to take you down. No, dude. I'm just saying, dude. These dudes are fucking, they went to Vietnam. They're still fighting off PTSD.

Bro. I'm over here just trying to get a nice sweat in. I'm in and out. No eye contact. I'm head down. And that's it. Them boys are trying to get that sweat on and that conditioning in. You know what I'm saying?

You just got, I'm just telling you, and I'm glad I didn't go the way we might have thought of this was going, JP. I know you were thinking probably the same thing. I don't want you to get got, my boy. You know what I'm saying? I'm not getting a lot. They will not get me. Especially the steam room.

Listen, a little hack for the steam room. If you want to breathe a little better, put a little eucalyptus oil in there. Or if you want to calm down and feel a little more relaxed, that lavender piece. That boy goes over there and calm down there. Oh, now. Oh, now. That man goes over there next time you're in there and he takes that lavender essential oil and puts that shit down. You better get the fuck out of that steam room.

You start feeling relaxed. man, I am kind of comfortable. And then all of a sudden, his legs touching yours, my boy. Oh, I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you what's what, dude. I'm just telling you what's what. And this is, dude, I'm just looking out for you. And I appreciate that.

Yeah. But shout out to steam rooms and saw us. Way to stand on it. Way to stand on it. Yeah, stand on it. Dude, he wanted you to sit on it, but you're glad you're standing on it, my boy. I'm just telling you what's what, dude. That seven-year-old dude was trying to clap cheeks.

I'm just letting you know. He's like, this idiot thinks he went to Vietnam. Bro, he thinks I'm fighting PTSD, dude. I'm going to give him that hard D. Listen, that means rattling me. Bro, I'm just telling you, man, it's open seas right now. You're getting peppered. I'm just letting you know.

I'm trying to give you pepper now, so that boy doesn't give you that thought later. It's good to have you back. I'm out of upping you for all these people. Dude, I'll tell you what. Thank you, dude. I'm out here yamming. It's like LeBron when he's got his arms like that and D. Wade behind him putting that shit down.

I appreciate you. Go on and cut that up too, Jackie. he put it on there while we're getting the boy more followers. Well, he does nothing for social media, dude. Absolutely nothing. One thing, too, that I want to bring up, we'll get off the dudes trying to fuck you thing. The steam and the sauna, it is kind of like a, you got to be a Boston Red Sox fan or a Yankees fan type thing.

For me, I think there's a life for both of them. And I know you said Infrared Sana, I've moved away from the Infrared Sona. Really? Yeah, I'm not going to give a shout out to the companies I use, but I do like the actual like stone saunas now. Get that 200 degrees. Just absolutely 20 minutes in there. You're talking to God.

You're thinking you're going to die at any moment, dude. You're, hey, you there, it's me, Margaret. Like, help me out. And then you get out of there. You hit that three minutes in the cold up to your waist, buddy. You want to talk about, there's a lot of people out there, listen, dare, right? Don't do drugs. But if you want to feel outstandingly high, hit yourself 20 minutes at 200 degrees in a sauna or

190. And then immediately you'll get in a cold top if you have that accent. buddy, you're going to feel euphoric. You're going to feel so euphoric you let that 70-year-old man do what he wants. That's how comfortable you're going to be. So, I'm glad, listen,

we saved, we saved some rears today. We saved some, especially Jackie's buddy, and I'm stoked. I'm stoked for you that you didn't get got because that's a tough one. That'd be hard to come back from, man. Especially all that talking you do. Remember Nebraska?

You remember Nebraska? Get your hand on my leg. Dude, all right, those are solid. Those are solid. Thank you, thank you, Jack, for letting me. I'm sweating now. I'm so excited to be a part of this podcast. My shadow, of the week is going to come to those of you.

If you're in high school and you're playing football, if you're in college and you're playing football. And there's a couple of days, I don't know if they do this in high school, but definitely in college, there's a couple of days you go in just like your shirts. Like, there's no, like your jerseys, there's no shoulder pads. And you know, down the road, those first, I don't know, three to four practices in pads are probably the biggest top five bangers of the season. Like boys are fucking hitting.

You're getting after it. And you know that first day of pads is when you're going to find out who's who in the zoo. My shoutout, no free shout out is when you're walking out to Pracky and you know it's going to be a hot and gloomy day and you saw, you looked at the weather and you meant, damn, boys will be talking right now. Boys will be hurting today. And there's cloud cover and a nice gust of wind dude. And you know, listen, that man upstairs is really helping the boys out

knowing that we're going to clank some heads today. We're going to be sweating bad. But he broke us about five or six degrees in that weather. That is the best feeling. And the only reason why I remember to say this is the boys went through that, the first couple days of pads, that weather wasn't, you know, all that June and July stuff. It won that June and July stuff.

So it was absolutely huge for us. So that is my shout out, no free shout out, of the week. I feel like you legit, like when it happens, you really look up. Bo, you're for real deal. He's just there. You're just grateful.

Yes. Dude, that's such an amazing feeling. Such an amazing feeling when you walk out on that field and it's just got a nice cut of wind on you. Especially when you're in a place with humidity like Nashville, Tennessee. Those boys out there at Lipscomb or CPA or Brentwood Academy that are out there and grinding with it and you get a nice little cloud cover with some wind going, you know dude oh we're gonna be i we we go and be i listen a lot of you and i loved how will did this

last week i did watch the intro of that i just won because i wanted to see what was up what was going on because your boys kind of just got his head in the ground i can feel the the blinders so like closing in as i'm zooming into my season um and i wanted to watch watch willie when everybody was up to one thing that he uh he said was there's a lot of people that are coming in here we've almost doubled our followers or the subscribers and everything. Since we started doing the spring football tour and every single day, there's new people coming to this podcast and enjoying the good times, the laugh,

the locker room environment, the laughing back and forth. We don't take ourselves too seriously. And having a great time. So obviously, the Hawkinson podcast is going to come up in the next five to seven minutes. And you guys can go and enjoy that. Those Detroit fans out there,

I really hope you're in there. I hope you guys are Michigan fans as well and not Michigan state fans. And you're just like, hey, I remember the boy when he played in 09. to 13. We can enjoy that a little bit. And maybe you start coming along and seeing us a little bit more. Hitting that subscribe, unsubscribe and resubscribe button. That is a huge way to get us in the algorithm.

And also, when you guys are commenting big time on this YouTube or any sort of social media platform, if you're able to do that for us, that is huge. We're going to do our best to keep this train rolling the way it has been. Man, it's been like a rocket ship. This 2022 has been a big year so far for the boys of busson. So thank you so much. Hawkinson, him coming on this podcast. We've obviously, he's been on the show before,

and he was looking like an absolute Rolling Stones album cover candidate. I know we did a little something with that. The boy comes in. He is an extremely humble individual. He's a hardworking individual. He's dealt with the adversity that your boy personally had to work through when you first get into your first couple of years in the league. And it's like, we win a whole lot of games.

It's tough to stay motivated. He talks about Dan Campbell and how much of a guy's guy he is. And I know we jumped into that a little bit. Rabel's going to beat him in a fight. we jumped into that a little bit at the beginning of this podcast. We talk about tear talk and my man, his favorite movie, I believe. He said his favorite movie, correct? Yeah.

Is the original, is the original line? Oh, yeah, yeah. You're just God tier, right? It's okay to say. Is Lion King. So we decided to do for our tier talk, Disney movies. Will had a tough one. Will was picking Pixar movies left and right.

I think if we ever do a Pixar tier talk, Will's already picked his and they're in this. And I like to do that someday a long way down the road and see if he actually matches up or if he was just saying whatever to say whatever. Because you know in Teer Talk, your boy likes to know what the masses are going to

love the most. And that's how he thinks he's collecting Ws. I don't know if he's saying 100% true to himself. He's not here to defend himself so I'm not going to get into that. I think you guys are going to really enjoy it, man. He is an awesome guest. Obviously he's come on for the second time. All those tight ends, man. The

Tight end you boys, Kittle, Hawkinson, Tunyon. They've just been amazing. Darren Waller, absolute stud. Twice he's been on the podcast, and I have not been on. I know, dude. And he's had, I love his story. I love everything he's gone through. So please enjoy this episode.

Please do us a favor. There's big time merch coming out. Our boy Garrett is absolutely killing it in the merch game. We got the, well, that's kind of just sitting in the corner right there. But these new bomber jackets are absolutely moifuego. it's going to be a good time, boys, and I hope you guys really enjoy it. For those of you who want their team,

their colors on our hats and stuff like that, you got to keep going. You got to just pound the mentions, dude, pound the retweets, pound the likes, all that stuff. And we'll see you. They'll see you. Before we cut in,

Will actually just texted us to shout out, no free shout out. No, he did not. You didn't need to read it off? Absolutely. So Will says, shout out, no free shout out to peeing in the water. Oceans, lakes, pools, hot tubs,

doesn't fucking matter. It's orgasmic and feels incredible. And anyone who says they don't is a liar. 100%. If you go in, first off, the minute your toe touches warm water, it's like over, right? Oh, you go in there. And you go to a pool party in the summertime. Everybody's in the pool and there's that one guy's in there for an hour and a half.

You think he hasn't pissed three times? You think he hasn't? And if you don't think he has, shame on you. That's just straight ignorance, friends. That's just straight ignorance. That's an outstanding shout out. No free shout out of the week. That boy's in Maui right now,

just serving us up some hot, hot soup. That was delicious, dude. What a good way to enter this podcast with T.J. Hawkinson. Thank you so much for supporting the boys. Let's get them Tier 3s up to Tier 2s and Tier 2's up to Tier 1s. Love you. Big hugs. Tiny kisses. You're going to see me in six seconds for a new ad.

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Please enjoy this episode. Goodbye. We're rolling. Let's roll while Will goes through this, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we'll just goes, as you're getting on, he goes, y'all want a coffee or anything?

And it looks at me and TJ and goes, you want like, you guys like something sweet, like a passion fruit, like a large passion fruit. My man is, he... He's retired. Year 10 Willie is an ancient myth now at this point. A lot is the same as the Phoenix.

The same as the Phoenix. I will rise from the ashes like a phoenix. And then right before you, we jumped on, it was, you just like a chocolate and they just paused and stares into my eyes for a minute. Because I'm trying to think about what the drink is called. Chocolate, cold brew. No, no, no, but that's not it. But it's got cream in the word.

Come on, bud. You can't be eating that shit. You know that, right? Why not? Now, let me tell you something. Since I've been gone, I think you lost a little bit of weight. Ooh, I appreciate that. That's, hey, that's a shout-out.

No free shout-out of the week type of comment right there. I think you look kind of decent. Yeah, what are you doing? You're the type of dude that, like, because you got, like, bigger forms and you got good calves, and he got a trunk behind you, pull a Buick. Like, when you wear a T-shirt, that boy thick. When you have a T-shirt and shorts on, like, you can kind of deceive the eye if you're not, maybe not as in good shape.

You know, some people don't have that luxury. You have that luxury. And I can't see you with your shirt off. You don't want to. Well, I mean, it's not up to, it's not up to the standard that we would like to see it. Those loose fitting shirts can move. It's early. It's July. You know what I mean?

It's late July, Bob. It's late July, but my season's in six days. My season don't start until December. Hey, I talked to John about you today. Oh, shit. What do you say? I went over and talked to him and he was talking about, oh, you bought a new bus. Like, you kind of have a thing now or something like that.

He was doing good at Turpin Me. He goes, can I ask you question? Yeah. He goes, do you think if, he kept calling the podcast show. And after the third time he said, I'm like, hey, John, like, you watch. I know you know, like the name of this. You know it's a podcast. Clearly you know what this is.

He's like, if we never brought Will in, do you think that podcast would have ever happened? I go, oh, there's no chance. There's no chance I'll be doing a podcast right now. I go, see? You're welcome. Wait, wait, wait. He said, do you ever think if we wouldn't have brought Will? If we didn't bring in Will, do you think that podcast would have existed?

Oh. And I said, no. And he looked at me and smiled and said, you're welcome. And I go, are you going to come on? And he said, maybe. which you know when we first started he said no chance he said he asked for a cut

he said he goes when I retire I'll come out and I'll tell all the secrets but John you're going to be in for a minute dude how about when I retire you come on to tell us secrets he's gonna he's gonna GM longer than I play for sure he got to you know Pat has on like GMs McAfee like the GMs will go on his show

yeah but you know John he likes to play that here's the thing about John Robinson and I will get to you in a second I swear to God I'm good I love like it. John is, John is, yeah,

T.J. Hawkinson is on the bus. Second time on the bus. Front of the bus. John is the type of dude. Got a great personality. It makes you laugh. He's very business.

But like, that's internally. Externally is very, like, business-oriented. And he looks like he only eats and lives football. But that dude,

he listens. Like, he's going to see this clip that we're cutting for John right now. You're going to see it, Bob? There's definitely no doubt. He probably sees clips,

but might get, told other information based on like people in the family that watch the show. Yeah. You know what I mean? He's got a daughter named Taylor. She's all time. His wife's awesome. His wife has a podcast.

And his wife asked Taylorin to go on the podcast, my wife. And Taylor goes, babe, is it cool if I go on that podcast? I go, yeah, it's 100%. And then I go, actually say you'll go on when John comes on ours. So now we're in a limbo. We're in a contract negotiation. She needs to come on before John. Do you hear?

The real secrets. Yeah. I don't know. Tayloran has talked about that. I'm sure Will's talked about that with Charo. Chocolate cream cold brew. We got there. My man worked through it.

It's a four minutes to do a podcast on his damn phone. Chocolate cream, cold brew. That shit just sounds fat as fuck, dude. That shit sounds like diabetes. Did you get a Vinty or a grande? Grande. Hey, have you seen... Cutting calories where you can.

You seen the cup? It's like, like, oh, this is going to be all sugar. Right. I've got seen the cups where they all the cups of fluid. fill the same. Especially if you get ice. You get tall and you fill it into a grande. It's the same amount of liquid.

And then the grande is the same as the venty. I got an ice latte from Duncan the other day and it was all ice. That shit's so annoying, bro. The vende are the exact same. The tall grande and venty allegedly are the same size.

It's like a magician trick. That boy's on TikTok. I saw it on like the reels. I saw it on the wheels. I'm old too old for that TikTok. You boy turned 31 tomorrow. Hey. I know.

Happy birthday. Easy. Appreciate you. Boy, getting old though. But shit. Hey, five minutes in. What's up with you, bro? chilling.

How's life? About ready to go back. Are you really? Yeah, Sunday. What's like, what's your vibe going on? I'm going to do my order. You do your thing, well.

Yeah, yeah. Well, actually, you're not here. I'm going back and forth. I'm just thinking in my head like, man, I went to, am I going to sneak this order? And so I figured I might as well just sit. Are you ordering us some waters, too?

Yes. You sure you guys don't want a passion, like a large passion fruit? Passion fruit from slow. He's trying to get us with them. Yeah, exactly. I'm not retired yet. No, no, no, I'm not going to take you guys down with me.

Bro, you asked for a passion fruit. Yeah, but I think those, like, those teas can be like, it's like... They're all sugar. It's like the calories. They're all sugar. That's the thing people don't realize. Like, they go, oh, yeah, they hate the carbs.

Hey, this. Like, look at the sugar, dude. If that sugar's high, you don't need to be eating that. But there are some, like, order your... No, no, order your shit. That are zero, like, zero everything. Yeah. But they got, like, the thing that bugs me is,

if it's not like cane sugar or sugar or brown sugar, they usually try to hide it with like glucose or like, but I'm talking about, or whatever shit. I'm talking about the unsweetened, like actual just a flavor of a tea. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know the bubble tea?

Huh? The bubble tea? I don't know about that. I don't know. My girl likes it. The little balls in the bottom? Yeah. They get stuck in like,

they get stuck in your throat. Pause. No pause. No pause. No pause. No pause on this. Time out. What?

So these things, these little bubble. T boys. I've seen these. There's a sushi spot in Germantown. It's low-key the best sushi spot in town, but I don't know what I can't think of it right now. You know what I'm talking about? He's in Germantown sushi. Cocos? No, not cocos. Yeah, he's ordering. I know.

Anyway, there's a sushi spot in town. Tango Tee. 35 calories. Oh, how much sugars in that thing? It's a blend of hibiscus, lemon grass, and apple handshaken with ice and of course that.

And of course, passion. Yeah. So that could be something that's like unsweet and it's just the flavors of what those three little ingredients are. Yeah. Does it say Made with Love on there too? Because that's what it sounds like. It says of course passion.

Of course passion. What are you ordering from? Don't say it actually. Bleep it out of you. No free shoutouts. No free shoutouts. I am ordering from. You better bleep that out, J.P.

He will. He said no. Hey, JP, you guys are getting a little confident yesterday on that podcast. Me? Yeah, yeah. Well, not you. It's really Jack. Me?

Yeah, no, I was... Jack been getting confident, huh? You've been acting different since I left. I leave, bro, and the dudes in the back get a little... You guys are more confident. I get it. There's a lot of room up here. There's a lot of room.

There's a lot of room. And Jack sat my seat, and he was kind of owner. He did a great job, actually. The shout-out, no free shout-out. He crushed. He did a good job. Good job. And Jack had a nice...

He had a nice clap back on you. Yeah, he clapped me because I did like the... Oh, yeah, and he goes, oh, you sound like you're making fun of yourself. because I was making fun of his voice. But he slapped me. I know, dude. I know. How's everything going?

It's good, man. Yeah? It's good. Yeah, I'm doing all right. I had thumb surgery this year, but that was the thing. Yeah. It's good, though, dude. Was it the UCL on the thumb?

Yeah. Have you had that? Yeah, I have it right now. Oh, really? But I just didn't fix it. No. I did it like the first week of camp last year. And they're like, you could do surgery, but it'll be like a week off and all this.

And I was like, just don't even worry about it. So I braced it. Yeah, I have to catch the ball. I know. There's a difference. I don't need that thing going through my, through my hands. This thing is like, it's crazy. Did you just kind of go out like crazy?

It was nasty. I went into the doctor and the dude literally pulled it down to my wrist. And I'm like, that probably needs fit. Yeah. And now did it hurt when you did it? Yeah. And yeah. I didn't know until after the game.

Like, you know, the adrenaline during the game. Right. Like it's, you know, play by play, you're like, all right, I'm going to go. You know, no matter what it is until you have to be crawled off the field or whatever it was. Like my rookie year when I had my ankle, I had to cross. off the field. But the thumb, I was like, all right, cool. I'm good.

The next day I couldn't hold a ball, though. I'm like, this is weird. This is tough. Yeah. So, you have the surgery and how long did it take to come back? Not long. Like six weeks. It's nothing, right?

And you just have to do the little, the net thing. Yeah. Like, stress balls. Yeah. See, I was doing mine and they were like, hey, if they were saying a whole bunch of stuff to me, like you might lose a lot of range of motion in your thumb and a lot of this X, Y, and Z could happen. And it really, like, when I did it, it didn't hurt.

hurt too bad. So I was like, I guess I'll just play with it in the first couple weeks it hurt because all the pounding on it. Right. And then after a while, it doesn't hurt and it doesn't hurt anymore. It's, it's strong. You even pulling it down like that? Yeah, it doesn't hurt like that. And if it's, if I hold, the only difference is like, I'll pinch something on this hand, but I've like weirdly claw it. Oh, yeah. With another

finger, dude. No, it's tough. I mean, when I went in there, he was like, yeah, you should probably get it fixed, but you don't have to. Yeah. It was like, the success rate goes down if you wait like two weeks and I was like, okay, listen. Yeah, because you kiss the ball. for a few years. Yeah.

I'm gonna, I'll get that fixed. What year is this right now? Going into four. Going into four out of Iowa, bro. Out of Iowa, go Hawks.

Yeah, no. I mean, yeah, yeah, listen, I'll say go Hawks. Yeah, Big Ten. I had no problem with that. That's a Big Ten country. Right. Now, Willie over here.

What? I'm undefeated against them. Are y'all, as y'all being rivals, is they're like... Played against me? Not you, but Nebraska. I'm two and O against Iowa.

That's all I know. Oh, you like that? You're only there for two years? Yeah, two and O. You were in the middle of that. So, yeah, I got two years in the Big 12 and two years in the Big Ten. Oh, man. Which one's harder?

Big Ten. Is that when you said, we were going to be at the little table? What's up? Is that when the head coach said that we were going to be at the small table? Our head coach said that? Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

It was Wisconsin, Michigan, and Nebraska at the Big Boys table. And then everybody else was at the Little Boys table. Yeah, I mean, that was true at the time. Wisconsin and Michigan, Nebraska? We're at the kids' table now. Yeah. What? You're below the kids' table.

Let's get that. straight. What's the draw? You're not, where you from? I'm from Iowa. Okay, that's why you went, that's why you went to Iowa. I only had two offers coming out of high school. Where was the other offer? Iowa State. I held them off

so bad. Really? Oh, dude. They offered me, like, coming out, like, sophomore year of high school. And it was not until junior, late junior year that Iowa offered me. And Iowa State was, like, sending me all these things, like, please come, please come.

Cyclones, right? Just commit. Just commit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah. you know, I'm just, I'm just waiting. You know, you know. Oh, dude, it was bad. So better now. They are good now. Yeah, they've done a good job over there.

But, yeah, it was, uh, it was an interesting time. High school's weird. High school is a weird deal. But like, in what way are you saying that it's weird? Because I look he loved high school. I never missed class. Like a recruiting, like a recruiting thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like the football thing because it was like, you have to prove yourself everywhere you go, you know, and I'm from a small, I was from a small town. So anytime that, you know, we, I went, I played somebody. there were like 5 foot 5. Yeah. And so I'd have a highlight reel. I had a thousand yards, 18 touchdowns a year.

And it was like, no, you're not good enough because you're playing against 5 foot 5. And I was like, all right. But, I mean, still. Yeah. And Iowa football is probably,

it's probably sort of like Missouri football. Yeah. Like toward the competition in that high. But for Iowa, it's like across the entire state. I'm a high school. That's a fair state there's spots, but it's like, you know, overall.

Well, there's four A's in high school. And so we were in three A. And they were like, you're not. in 4A, so I don't know. So, 4A was the highest. It wasn't like 1A was the other. It wasn't like 1A.

Like, I think it is here, right? One A is the high. I don't know. In Tennessee. In Arizona. That's some good high school football from what I've heard. See, the boy of the big five though. Texas, Ohio,

Pennsylvania, Florida. California. And then Arizona's probably like six. There's some dogs coming out of Florida. But then I don't see me of. Yeah. Like, you see them in the league much? I don't know.

Dude, we had a whole slew of Florida cats come out. Really? Have you ever heard a pokey Florida? Pahokee Florida like I don't know if it's this way now but like it's a wild like I guess it's like a not a well off town and but they have all these like crazy fast guys come out of come out of there at town and they would like put you in this big pen this big grass pen with a bunch of rabbits and like your conditioning was go catch that rabbit and that's like that's how they ran shit around there and they come up dudes would come up from Pahoki Ford and you wouldn't understand a fucking word they're saying like they would just talk and you'd be like I'm trying the pieces together you know what I'm saying I'm saying I'm trying to pieces together you know what I'm saying I how DeNarra Robinson was, being from Deerfield? When he first came, he talked to you, try to tell you what the

play was in the huddle. And you couldn't understand a word, DeNard would say. Then Florida boys are different now. They are. Get after it. Yeah. I mean, they're training all year round. They pick, like, right away, though, right? I mean, like middle school, they know what they're going to try to do. They have one sport. I wonder, is that true?

Or are you saying? I mean, I think, I'm pretty sure that's how most places are. I mean, I was from, like I said, a small town, so I played five sports. Yeah. That's like, I say that to people and they're like, what? Like, that doesn't make sense. Especially nowadays. Yeah.

I feel like it's changing a lot now where dudes like, like in hockey, if you want to play, it's been like this forever. If you want to play hockey and like taper seriously, you're going to start early and start often. Like you're flying up north to go live with billet families. Your parents have to decide that really because you're starting when you're like three. But like when I was growing up, it was like every season. It was like, hey, it's baseball season.

All right, it's basketball season. All right. It's football season. Like you're just playing. To your point, like in Florida, I do think they do like football all year around a a lot earlier than... They're doing seven on seven in the spring. Yeah, but did you all have spring ball in high school?

No. Oh, we had spring ball. No. So, like... We had camp in August. That was it? Yeah. Oh, no way.

Yeah, because we were... Two weeks in two days. When you had high school, you were... It was full time like that. You'd work out and then like right in the middle of March, April, May, you would have like spring football practice. No. That's crazy.

There's no spring football practice. You had your helmet? In Iowa was in the summer. So it's weird, right? Because... That's all it was in Missouri. Was it? Yeah.

Okay. Because most places it's in the spring And then they play you in the summer And I wanted to play baseball when I went to college Man, you made a mistake In high school they played in the summer? In the summer So like you didn't have a summer

If you played high school baseball So like after my sophomore year I stopped playing high school baseball Because I needed to go to football camp And it was like a weird thing Like to stop Because that's what my brother went to school to do Play baseball?

Yeah Were you a beast? Yeah, I had fun You were like that? Oh dude Was it a decision? You're like Man, I kind of don't know what I want to play.

Baseball is a weird recruiting class, right? Like, because you have to go, you have to play USA teams. You have to do all these things. Is that a spider right there? That just got me. Spooktobers coming. We always got a little spook in here, dude. Oh, man, that was nuts.

That would freak you out like that. Do you want to hold it? No, I'm good. Like, hey, you're about the fucking die. Bro. No, I was like, holy. There's a danger. You got this thing?

Behind my knee. Oh, my gosh. That was nuts. You know how it is in baseball? Is that a spider? Yeah. You were dialed in on that way. I was.

It is weird. It's a weird, like, recruiting thing because you have to play all year round. Like, you have to play spring in high school. Ball ball. And then you have to play AU. And then you do like a U-Triple-C, you do like, you have to go to all these places. And then it's not even, when you get drafted, it's not even you go to college hardly. I mean, you can, but you go to AAA or you go to double A and then you work your way up to the big leagues.

It's like, and then I got a lot of offer. I mean, I got a lot of, like, recruiting letters in football. And I was like, okay, this is going to be an easier route. Football is going to be it. Yeah. Now, did you, did you want to go to? Right? Because you get an offer and you go to school and then you figure out.

The path to success in football is way more linear than any other sport. It feels like. Yeah. Baseball, the way you was playing hockey. I don't know. Basketball seems pretty straightforward to. One and done now. One and done.

You can get there quick. They're driving. So basketball is probably the easiest just from like a straightforward trajectory. There's so many kids playing basketball. though. There is a lot of kids by football, but basketball there's only five. Exactly.

In like 12 on a roster in the NBA. What do we have? 53 and then plus the roster. Now, 40 address. 13 man practice. 16 man practice squad. Yeah,

we'll stare down that P squad right now. 16 of them boys? He's trying to, year 10, Willie. Only if my contract's guaranteed, Neil. One day.

Man. Isn't that what I heard? I heard that you were trying to do the one day to keep getting to like year 20 or something? Oh, you listen to a part of my day. I listen to it. I listen to it.

Yeah, that's what they were talking about. Last time I was on their BitCal is like, you should see a variable, like, just sign you one day each year in OTAs. And then so that way, like, but it wouldn't be credited. You'd have to make it three weeks. For sure. But he's just saying, like, you would just be like year 20. The longest lasting football player? That would be some shit to you.

Like, what if? He would get it going. Like to give incentive to a team. Why wouldn't they, like, pay you for the three weeks? You take that money and you say, I'm going to donate all of it. you did it all the money, but like you just keep staying in the league with credited seasons. That's a good idea.

And so it's like, hey, I'll just donate anything you want. I will donate all of my paychecks to whatever charity of your choice. And you're just in year 45. You're coming out of that. And then, bro, you're in Dennis book. No one's ever beating that record 45 years in the league. That check when you're 55 is going to be nuts. Hey, him?

Him. Himithy. Hey, but that 401K. Yeah. We'd be running up the Numbies. Holy God. But if J. Yeah, you'd have to donate it at all.

You wouldn't be able to put in the 401K. I don't know. Not my 401K. But my paycheck. Oh, that's true. I see your saying. But they take it out. They take it out before you get the paycheck.

They give you a month of paycheck at the end, right? Based on how many years you got. Yeah, but now. Pension that would still play. That'd be good for the pension. So it's like J. Robb, whether it's J. Rob, whatever, GM out there. If you want to be charitable, donate to a charity of your choice, while also, like, helping out one of your employees along the way.

But imagine being the, the dude that had to get cut for you to make those three weeks. We wouldn't talk about that. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's one of those things you'd swipe under the rug. Yeah. Like, you'd be like, it's all good. And then there'd be like these little side conversations

coming out of, but like, no, he fucked me. I'm the reason why I got cut. We were just like, get the fuck out of it. At first. You know what I mean? At first, but like three years from now, people would know coming on to that team, like this is only a 52-man roster for the first three years. Yeah.

You know the Titans, man. Yeah. It's just a 52-man roster. Yeah. You want to do it early too because you want to get into injuries and stuff like that. Right.

You got to do it early. Like then you want to like the first three weeks then you enjoy spooktober like you enjoy a holiday season. Yeah. You know, you don't have the stress of like. Just kind of take your backpack and put it on

and just zip it up and go, all right boys, I'll see you next year. Yeah. And you're just gone. I don't even bother going up to GM's office to get cut. We all know why I'm here. Yeah.

See until Monday of four. How about you go to camp? Dish out some waters, hang out and then get cut. Pro vibes. Pro vibes. You just the vibes got the whole time. Then Thursday of week one, you get cut because you have to make it to Wednesday, right?

Yes. But then you're guaranteed for the whole season. So maybe I'm fucking that up. Yeah, you would be. That would be fucking up. I could go to camp. Say I get cut. Okay.

And then after a couple weeks, three weeks or whatever, then you bring me on. Then that way you know it's not guaranteed for the entire year. I did ask J. Robb to bring you back. And he laughed. And he says, yeah, probably not. He goes, I go, we got extra slots. Don't lean. He goes, we're pretty full right now.

We got 90 guys. Yeah, we're pretty full right now. I was like, man. We all know the bottom, you know, five day guys. Like, you could easily make something. But if you brought you like. There's no question about it. We can laugh.

There's no question. If you got brought in the camp, though, right now. Oh. That would be tough. You're not making that, you're not making that conditioning test. Bro, I just show four. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yes, I am.

Oh, you think so? Yes. What's your own conditioning test? condition it does it's 10 it's 10 50s 40s oh yeah middle group 50s 10 50s you take like a minute and a half two minute break then you run 10 more all straight ahead oh that's not yeah it's right 14 of those things today on like a that uh a one-to-one ratio and I was fucking gas today from all that driving hot dude well it's not even that you like I was hurting because I took four days and drove across country yeah sucking in fumes sitting on my ass the whole time like you could tell

like my gas tank needed to recharge but it was like Loki kind of embarrassing. Frank's like, you good? I was like, yeah, we'll see tomorrow. Because I've been running like crazy, you know? I'm in conditioning is my thing. That's my weapon. Yeah. No, today you're breathing in water though. I mean, really. Yo, for real. It's humid. It's hot out there. And this is the hottest I've ever seen it in nine years in Tennessee. Yeah. Like it's progressively. I remember being in camp and be like, man, it's 85 today. Boys are fucked. And now it's like, yo, if we can get 85. Holy shit. The cool breeze. Michigan's nice. So my first couple years.

I would agree if it gets in the hundreds. If it gets in the hundreds in August for sure. because it was in the 90s when we were in camp in, like, 18. Because I remember, like, thinking about quitting. Will does do this shit, they were. Every year's last year. I love you because I think you're one of those most negative. I don't know this. I don't know.

Oh, hey. A negative person in the locker room? Like, is that, like, your vibes? I'll talk for you. I'll talk for you. I'll talk for you. You see who's been around me. Yeah, I want to hear.

Because, like, that's guys that I, like, sometimes run on is dudes that are just like, fuck. this dude yeah and i'm like i love you bro because i'll never say it because it just can't come out but like dudes that are around me like that like i got some guy in the in our in our room right now that's name who is it he's a dude big time uh like he was in the military for a while yeah and just big time boy dude like great dude great vibes and just will come in come in and be like this is gonna suck and i'm like i love you bro i love you bro i love that because I run off that shit, but I can't say it. Otherwise, it just fucks my mental.

I feel you. How would you explain me? I would say Will's the glue to any room. In college, I used to call him the gatekeeper. Like, between the white dudes and black dudes. Oh, at the Redskins? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's like a dude that's like full camaraderie, always smiling, good dude,

like has a good vibe about him. Now, I don't know. You would never do that with me. I never heard you say, man, this shit sucks. The shit's awful. But I do. Maybe when you're around a guy like Harold, who is like that. It's not like if this shit sucks, this shit's awful,

but you'll find the sucky things to say about it to, like, grind through with the boys. Right. Like, I want to be at the cafeteria table to where we're having a good time talking about, like, fuck, we got the pads on on Wednesday? Like, you already know this is going to be a grind. Talk a little shit about it. But, you know, like. Well, that's how, that's the camarader of it.

Yeah, everyone's thinking of it. Yeah, you want to say the things that people are thinking to make them laugh. And, like, you know, we're all going to enjoy ourselves. Like, head coach is probably going to bitch at us for X, Y, and Z. Of course. And then you start, some people start mimicking, like, how their coach is in the room. He's going to do this. They're going to do that.

Then we're all having a good time. Bro. Somebody looks up, all right, let's go fucking die of practice, boys. And then you're like, go. And it's just like a camaraderie to. And yeah, you get to that part in camp where you're like, you know, like, how long the practices is. How practices are? So it's like 1130.

You know you're going to be done at 1.30. And you look at and go, hey, boys, two hours. We're home free. Two hours. And that's, and we're good. All they do is make two more hours. And God forbid you have a day off the next day? Oh, come on now.

Yeah. Come on. That's the best. And just in the middle of training camp or like you're starting to warm up for practice. You go in the training room. Like you're hitting the Therrigan. You're like doing all the stuff to warm up and you just sit by somebody. You're like, just got to make it through week one.

Just got to get the week one. Because you'll get it. You'll get the guaranteed money after that. But everyone, there's like all those little inside jokes that you're always fucking. No, it's fine. I mean, you don't hate it. That's how the boys came about. The boys.

Yeah. Like camp. Like karate was like year for the like, Will and I would walk in. I still do this. We go, you're on the hot tub where everyone's, you know, everyone's right there

before it came before they get ready and you walk at the boys and then slowly but surely dudes would start recalling. Like you say the boys and the rest of them, even though they're looking at their phone and they just go,

the boys, and then just go back to their phone like they just knew. Right. Like it kind of was like a nice little deal. It was a nice deal. There's one thing Will did a fantastic. Will was talking about making fun of your coaches.

Will did a whole skit on Rable in 2018. Oh my God. And it was thought on. I don't, There's a film out there Brian Arakpo did. Do we have a clip of it, JP? I think there might be a clip on YouTube.

Rack is an all-time cat. Talk about dudes that love the bitch. Him, Wesley Wardyard. Jerome Casey didn't really bitch. He was on that OD leadership stuff. But like, that little, that squad of dudes, Michael Griffin when he was there, that was a while ago, though,

these dudes would be together and just like that. If you wanted to let off some steam and have some dudes welcome you with an ear of all the shit you want to talk, like those are the dudes. to go talk to you have to have dudes like that like i mean you love what you do but on the same hand like it's just like you get to talk to other people like embracing the suck yeah like it's great like you're not going to actually go sit around a table with guys who do who are like talking shit and you're like oh they're kind of like fucking losers about it you want to be around like the good

old boys you want to be about the o gs too the dudes that have been the league for a little bit right you're like i would say like year six and above like you're year six and you're like a dude just kind of played a lot right done of shit those dudes are not you're around them and bitch and you feel a more comfortable. Like, all right, cool. Yeah, yeah. Or you're a young guy and you're so stressed out. Like, man, my...

It's hard as hell. I wonder if everybody else feels this way. It sucks like, yeah, like, man, he's calling me on meetings. And then you have a vet who's been around long enough to know, like, he's playing a mental game on you. And then the vet just like, dude, fuck that. Who gives a fuck? Then you're kind of like, oh, really?

And then they kind of, like, put you on game. And then you're like, oh, I'm part of the crew right now. Yeah, yeah. You see. Meeting tape's a real thing. Bro, we're talking about, I practice. It would never get easier even. And if Rable's going to see what I'm saying right now,

he's a big fucking dude on like losers get together in small groups and talk shit. Yeah. Like that's his big thing and we just did that. That small group getting Phil and talking shit about how shit at campus. That shit sucks though, Vrable. This shit's awful. I hope this plays in the teaming room.

You know Vrae was a guy you wanted to sit within the cafeteria because he's all, like, Braves a boy, dude. He's one of the boys. He's a homey. He's a head coach. No, that's how Campbell is, too. This guy that played. Yeah, bro.

He seems like, it looks like those who are really in a battle for dude bro coach of the year. Yeah. But it's like, who do you think it would win in a fight? Coach Campbell or coach Brayble? Oh, dude. I don't think Campbell, I'm going to be real serious. I don't think he's worked out since he's been a coach. Dude is Jack.

That's hard. I thought that was going a different direction. Yeah, so did I. Grable works out hard, but he's not necessarily like. Right. So I'm thinking. Yeah, but he wears the windbreaker. He does a lot of things to make himself look better than he actually does.

A lot of layers. But he works out hard. We're biting off knee cats too, boys. Do you think he works out of him? When he's done. Brable's like, I don't know, I fuck with Dan Campbell, though. Like his vibe of what I see. Everybody in the league.

Really? I do. What about the coach for the Jets? He was the decorinator for San Fran. Bro, he's kind of a yolk cat. He's got a leg. And you, you know. He's got a strong chin, dude.

I've seen him had that stupid fucking pat on his chest and get cocked right in the fucking chin. And he eats it. He gets a little more mad. He's a, yeah, he's a. He's an Ohio guy. Shut the fuck up with the Ohio stuff, dude. I don't need, sorry. You know what?

That was too much. I got mad. That was my college. That was my college. But I'm just saying like Ohio's like a blue collar state. Like he grew up like a like a blue collar type guy. Yeah. Yeah.

He grew up basic for sure. But I'm just saying, you know like one of those white dudes who probably gets drunk and he's probably like aggressive. Yeah. He's probably one of those guys. He's a drunk wrestler for sure. Yeah. He'll get you.

Hey, what's up? Hey, what's up? Hey, what's up. . Hey, hey, relax. Hey, relax. Hey, relax. Rames is all good. Like, and any time you want to...

I bet he was a wild man in college. Yeah, and anytime you want to play fight, like after practice or something like that, like he's all about it. Yeah, he's in the stance, like grabbing your wrist and shit. He wants to, too serious. Yeah. Way too serious. Dude, I was just joking. You know, he's a sleeper?

Matt LaFleur. I think so. I think he's a little... Because he's got that, like, he's got that, like, Elon Musk, kind of like, he's looking through you while he's talking because he's thinking about ball. Like, his, he's so smart. Math's going on as bad, dude. dude.

He's strappy. I bet she's got the biggest penis. We talk about it all the time. We call him hammercock-cock-le-floor for a reason, dude. He is... He got Bobby on the podcast last week. Did you ask him? I did not ask him about how big Lafleur's piece was.

I should have. Call him. I think he would tell you different, though. Really? I don't know. He might. He might. I mean, you think you watch any...

He might. You watch any porn. Any reality porn. It's always some skinny delivery boy. And he just, it looks just like Matt Lafleur, the same body type. And then they pull that thing out and you're like, gee, it looks like that fucking whiskey bottle.

Matt might not be tall enough, though, to hit those measurable. It's all about the hands. Stretch. Yeah. I can't remember his hands, though. We shouldn't talk about hands. I know. I know.

I know. I know. Stretch is got. Stretch is that dude. Yeah, stretch has got a hammer. There's no question. And, you know, he bet me this year. Did I tell you about this bet?

I don't think maybe. It was like he bet me whatever the, whatever you're allowed to bet is in the NFLPA, $250. plus I told him we were coming on the high state game I was like hey if we win Michigan wins I get to see it and I get this like I get real close in person

I get to see it and he goes like laughs and he was okay that's how fucking condescending he was about it then we're flying up to New England and I'm watching it I'm just looking at that stretch like I'm going to get a good look at that thing aren't I? Did you see it? No he won't let me see it he's like stop being weird it's like what do you mean being weird with the bet to bet

yeah I know like what do you mean being weird you're being weird show me your penis You know? Let me see that thing. Anyway. How about those guys that go into the stall, the change, though? Whoa, you got those dudes? What do you mean? In Detroit?

No, have you ever had those guys that you've played with? Hold on. Who are... They're not there very long. They go into stalls to change. Yeah. You've never had that? I've had guys try to change, like, while they're wearing their towel and stuff.

Yeah. It's just like, come on, man. Like, not that I'm looking, but let's see it. I mean, you got to see who your boys are about. Well, I had a dude last year... We had a dude last year who took his towel, like the front of his towel, and he'd tuck it in his armpits,

and it looked like a gown. But from the back, it was all skin. But he, I mean... Did you say that's hype? That's hype? He's just showing his cheeks in the locker. He would tuck it. He'd tuck his armpits,

and he'd walk like this to the shower, and he'd, like, be in the corner of the shower. Like, but he was in the corner, like, so, like, up to something, the type of vibes. You know what I'm saying? The whole time, like, he would shower real quick. He'd get this area, and he wouldn't, he wouldn't face you.

you'd talk to him, but yeah, yeah, for sure, he wouldn't turn around and talk to you. Yeah. And then he'd put a shot, like this towel back on under his armpits. Small dick vibes. I don't know, dude. He might have, I mean, he might have something going on with it. You know, maybe it was a little. Who's got the, who's got the alpha in the Detroit locker room?

The alpha. The what? The alpha. Oh. Dude, I don't know. I've seen some big ones. I don't know about, I don't know about Detroit. I'm not really a, I'm not an eye gazing.

But no one's like an eye gazing for real, but you catch him. No, but if you're in the shower, like right now, I'm in the shower and I'm here. I can see both your pieces right here right now if I want it. It's just a periff thing. No, I'm with it. I don't know if they're eating. I don't know if like I, you got a memory. There's nobody like, oh, he's got a fucking hammer.

Do I have a memory like, I got a pretty good memory about it. Brennan Hawthorne, Hokie, Florida and Michigan. Josh Jackson, Iowa. Dude went down to his knee. Amir Abdullah. But. You've spoke highly about him. John who?

Do you remember Johnu? No, I don't remember Johnu. Tony Smith? Yeah. No, I don't remember like it didn't burn in my mind. I got you. Was it like that? I just thought he was, he was well proportioned for like how Jack D he is and stuff.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He had beautiful teeth also. Beautiful teeth. He had a deep voice. We were talking about how much we paid. I'm like, do you really pay like two grand for all those teeth? Yeah.

Yeah, because he didn't like, like, where the fuck did he do? It was like, third world country. It was like in Mexico or something like that. Yeah, yeah. You went down there? Yeah. All of them. He got them all done, all of his teeth, all veneers.

Yeah. They look great. Yeah, they look phenomenal. Yeah, maybe, maybe not like... He's the most bill tied in. Like 14. That's not bad. No, I know, but when he's paying two grand.

Right, that's the proportion. Yeah. Do you do your bottom row or just top row? Just top. You get to do your bottoms? No. Why not? Because the way, like, my profile, like, you just see my top teeth and I don't, like,

I'm not going to fork up more money just to have my bottoms just for... I thought they were like 25. Now. Depends on where you go. Like I got eight up top. Oh, really? So you just got the front of eight. Yeah.

I mean, that's... Why don't you do like a little diamond or something? Jeff O'Cuda. The boy's got a diamond. Does he really? Yeah. That shit kind of goes hard to me. It does.

It does. It works and I smile back. Dude. I'm like, dude, that's great. I think it's the sunlight. Yeah. Actually, it'll be sweet. You should think about that.

Getting a little diamond in it, like a little twinkle. Yeah. I'll think about it. All right. Like, I'm not against. it. What else can we talk about? Hey, Taylor, I think your thing became unplugged. Here, Mike.

Uh. We can agree. We're able over Campbell on a fight. I won't agree with that. I don't think variable's coming out. So you're thinking Campbell over variable. Yeah, but if you do disagree with us, you need to take a stance right now. And let's say it into this camera. Yes, I'm taking a stance that I don't agree with you. And what do you believe? That Dan Campbell is taking variable in a fight.

wrestling match wrestling match or a fist fight dang that's different because like that's different if I wrestled Will history shows Will's gonna beat me

you know what I'm saying but I would Dan's got a Dan's got a tough he's got a tough name it'll be like the end of Rocky 3 hey you owe me that favor

what favor he coaches him he beats Clever Lang in the second fight and the favor is the payback we got to get in the ring and box because Rocky obviously beat him

in Rocky too yeah So, Dan's got a hurt knee. Dan's got a hurt knee. I will say that. He comes around with a sleeve every once in a while. Don't fucking swaggy.

So who is winning in a fight then? No, in a fight, fist bite, I'm saying, yeah. Wrestling match is different. Rable's coming up. I don't think Rable can wrestle.

I don't know. He's a Midwest cat. I'm telling you. Midwest cats can wrestle. Rable likes wrestling. He does? Yeah. It's all about the grip strength,

really, right? In wrestling? I mean, a little bit. I don't have like the strongest grip. You know it would be bitching. Speaking of wrestling with Summer Slam coming up is if I got in the ring

and suplex somebody or did whatever and then turned around and Vrable's there and we have like a three minute battle in the ring. And he wins. No, he's covering you to pin you and I come out sliding. Yeah, slide in under with a chair and just, wow.

And he fucking dude. And then I get out of the ring because somebody's occupying the ref. And the ref turns back around and they see that you're on top of Vrabble. One, two. And then fucking we win You win?

We We The stretch at me I'm about Summer Slam today is like you want to be a part of it I go hell yeah

Oh we're in there Yeah He said he's like Just will want to go We're already going Oh are we Yeah busing Oh cool

I got two tickets WWWWE's Been working with Bustin with the boys Yeah I'm trying to get in that ring though Yeah you can get in the ring

You know That would be That'd be awesome right That'd be awesome right I don't even really Watch wrestling like that But I would Have a fucking blast

doing that Yeah Who's your guy I wasn't into WWE. But whoever Will says. Raymatero was mine. Really? Yeah.

Boy, it came around the ring and flew, like, around it. Yeah. I was all about Logan Paul beat Ray Mysterio, though. That was when Raymisterio was old, though. He's old now. I'm a rock. I was the rock. Yeah.

He was only there for like three years, though, wouldn't he? Do what? How long was the rock in it? He wasn't in it. Rock was in a while. Come on now. Get some history. Oh, it sounds like you're getting school right now.

It seems like if I had to pick a dude now, just based off knowing and probably Seamus. That dude, seems like he's got it. He always has a cane, some cool mutton chops. He's a beast. He wants to come on the bus, too.

I think he's coming on tomorrow, right? Oh, no, no. He was supposed to come on the day we had to cancel. Damn. Heartbreak Hotel. Who else we had to cancel for the first time?

We met, we met Seamus at the NASCAR thing. He was all about it. Oh, yeah, he did. He was about it when we were doing the Predators thing. We were doing that thing getting ready for the outdoor game.

He was about it. Yeah, he was like, let's drink some Guinness one day, one day soon. I was like NASCAR is an underrated sport. NASCAR? I love NASCAR.

NASCAR's rad. My grandparents gave me the PIR all the time in Phoenix. Yeah. It was cool. We went to the one out here. It was elite. Bitchin.

Yeah. I had some phoma when I saw that happening. Yeah, it is. That and Titan U. Oh. You didn't come to Tide in you? I was in Canada with my wife. I'm seeing a good husband.

That was a good time. That was a good time. Yeah. Will right in the C. Is you? Oh, Oh, you did get me. I never saw that clip either.

I know it's out there. Yeah. He just smoked me in the face with the fucking water balloon. Dude was coming at a little kid and he turned around. It was already in the air. He turned around. You pegged that kid? That's the kid you pegged.

Oh, hang on. I wasn't coming at a little kid. I didn't get involved with the water balloon stuff until you just smoked me. And I'm just chilling. He was like trying to hit me in the back and I just happened to turn around. And he just smoked me right in the face. Oh, how that make you feel? I lost a tooth.

Imagine if he did. I was like, I shouldn't whoop his ass right here. I shouldn't whip his ass right here. But then I went, I took it up. on a little kid. I saw you working on your ball skills too out there. Yeah. Our guys cut up the wrong footage.

They cut up the misses, huh? Yeah, they cut up the misses. We didn't have much to work with. It looked good, dude. Did you put my, uh, my, uh, punt returning on there? Yeah, Willie Hester. Ooh-wee. Willie Hester.

I had a nice little one hand around the punt return. Got, uh, I'll be honest. That was so lucky. Yeah. I'll be honest. Went out last minute and caught it just on the side of my head. Like, hey, I know y'all saw that. So what are, like, like, the, like, the,

The Lions forever have been trash. They've been trash. And this is no disrespect. I love Michigan. I love Detroit. It's just like the reality. It hasn't been great. What's the deal this year? Like I said before, I fucking love Dan. There's a dude that's going to turn that place around and let it rip. Dan, you guys drafted Aidan Hutchinson, who I, loki thought was going to be the first overall pick. He's a stud. He's a stud. I'm excited. I'm really excited. I actually am. We got Aiden. We got some receivers now.

We got, we got some guys. So this is going to be, I mean, we got you know, we got Josh, we got Amin Ra, you know, we got DJ now. J-mo came, we drafted J-mo. He won't be until half the season, but, I mean, that dude, would he get a 98 on Madden? Not that that matters. Who's Josh? Josh Reynolds?

Isn't that wild? Wasn't Josh Reynolds on this team? Yeah, he was. He was in Nashville, and they got traded. Yeah, he got traded. He was solid, though. Like, he was, yeah, I don't know what happened between us and Josh. There was, he was getting some H.S.

For a while. From the outside, like our boy, your favorite media guy, he would talk big shit on... You're right? We don't say his name. He got to bleep him. No. He's like the Voldemort. Don't give him that power.

Just bleep his name so he feels disrespectful. He called me that day. I sent you that text? Which day? Remember when I was going off on how he got fired at ESPN and stuff like that? Oh, yeah, yeah, because you were sending this, you were sending the text. Yeah. He's like, get it right, chief.

I left on my own. Bo, blah, blah. I make more money on my way. website, all this shit. Now, when you were saying that, I was, I was thinking, like, I think he was in a better position when he was leaving. Yeah. He went to the, you know, the stuff he's doing now.

We're not going to give him all that attention. Yeah. It seems like he's doing well, though. That's it. Yeah, he's doing great. It'll be all right. We're working for us. I don't know what happened to him, though.

Down and, because then he came to Detroit. And I remember, he was bawling. Yeah. He was bowling. Yeah. Well, see, J.G. and Josh played in L.A. So they had that connection a little bit already

Gotcha When he came it was already like He just needed to know the offense And they already knew each other He had like a foot thing or a hamstring thing Or something going on Because I remember dudes Receivers are saying like man

He ain't explosive. And I don't know Like I don't pay attention to receivers Until like in games I see dudes making catches Yeah I had to work on my own shit But it seemed like dudes were kind of

It seemed like dudes like players were down on him I like Josh During the LA game Like he was an HS for that game And I was like what's going on because I think we were down dudes too. No, AJ and Julio did play those games. But he just seemed like a dude that was like a good dude,

like cool Cali vibes, great dude. Yeah, I just didn't know what was going on. And then all of a sudden, we cut him or traded him? We traded him to y'all? I don't know what we got for. I mean, he went off. Yeah, I mean, he scored like the next week. Yeah, yeah.

He bawled for us. I mean, it was cool too because like St. It ended up killing it after, like, I went down and then St. St. went off like 100 a game, like for four games straight or something. It was stupid. Awesome. A rookie of the month, one month.

Solid. And so we got, we got some guys now. I mean, like, Aiden's going to be a big, big guy on the D-line. We got Amani in the back court. I mean, there's some, there's some dudes now. We got, most of our guys were out, too. Like, we were missing Frank. Ragnow.

We were missing. Oh, friend of the pod. We were missing Romeo defensive guy, you know. We were missing Jeff. Like, we were missing a lot of guys. What do you think of Penel Swelly? Swellie? Penet Swellie?

Feney. He's a left tackle. He got drafted. Like, he was a second tackle taken. That kid was shown. Great dude. Great dude? Yeah.

He seems like a solid oof. Like, doesn't, like, works hard, but like, doesn't say a ton, but like, super good dude. You know, like, and for a rookie to come in, like, you know how it is, like a rookie lineman, it's tough. It's got to be the hardest shit to do. Especially a left tackle. Yeah. You know, and Taylor was out for a while. So then he had to go to left tackle, and then he went back to right tackle.

And then it was like, so he was changing the whole year. And Taylor's still there, right? Taylor's still here, yeah. Who plays left this year? Taylor will, I think. Yeah. I mean, they paid Taylor a lot. So.

Yeah, that gave him some money. That's almost like, wow, they drafted that dude. Yeah. No, Penae's, I mean, he'll put a guy into the dirt now. Yeah. But his little clip, his little clip of him and Aaron Donald going at it. There's a clip of like Penae rookie getting in Aaron Donald's face. And it's like, that's how you make a good name for yourself.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, come out the best. Yeah. Because Aaron Donald's, he's the king of the face mask. grab. Aaron Donald loves grabbing that face mask. Because you know he's strong as fuck. He's a little king as then. He likes doing it after the whistle.

I mean, not after, but he'll hold it until like you make him stop. Yeah. He holds until everyone knows, like, it's like an alpha move. Yeah. He goes until everyone knows, okay. We all know I won this. Right. Right. So I was, you got to love that. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, we interrupt this outstanding podcast to bring you an ad by sport clips before we get into the ad. I'd just like to

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you know, whatever you naturally look like. Sport clips, the pros and men's hair. Back to the episode. What did you see from Aiden and OTAs? Hush. Dude's like explosive. I mean, you know,

in OTAs, you don't have much. Like, you don't have pads on or anything, but like, dude, like, coming off the line, like, a defensive end in the first three steps is like, that's how, where you make your money, you've got it. You know, like. We need you to be hard as fuck on him because that's, I feel like he's one of our own. I love Aiden. He's never been on this. He's never been on this pod. He's like he's

he's always he's about the pod. He's about the pod. He seems like a homie. And like I'm just like glad to see a Michigan dude really doing it. Like kind of living out a legacy like he'll be a Michigan legend forever. And you know what happens is a very hard worker. Yes. You love that. Yeah. And when we start winning, I mean when we start winning in Detroit, that's where like everybody's going to make a name for himself. You know, like that doesn't happen in Detroit. And these guys are like, eating they're hungry yeah how do you feel like the culture has shifted since coach campbell came on board by kneecafs homie exactly i mean because he came in and obviously you've had right he wasn't your he's not your only head coach like being in detroit being part of like that losing culture not that

you were a part of it but your first year for the first two years you're tasting it hearing it from everybody else and then coach campbell comes in like how do you feel like that culture has started the shift well the thing is like with mattie p right he was there for my first two years. And it was like, he was already on the hot seat. Like, everybody,

like, our, our fans get after it. I heard he was, I heard, I heard some not so good things about him. Yeah. And those,

like, I forgot. I was, like, I was his pick, right? So, dude liked me.

Like, he didn't talk to me a ton outside of, like, the, the meeting or anything like that. But dude outside of that was cool. But then when he got into the meeting, it was like,

he tried to be Belichick a little bit. Yeah. And it was like, just trying to like alpha dudes or? No, it's just like, like, all right, man, you know, this is what we got to do today. The hard way is right way.

And that's true. I mean, it really is. But on the same hand, there's like a player vibe with Campbell that, like, dude's played. Like, and dude has, like, he understands what it is. And it's still hard way is the right way, you know, like, we're going to practice hard. We're going to do a lot of hard things. But on the same hand, he's going to take care of us in certain situations because he knows what it is. And he knows, like, camps are grind.

So we're going to take a day where it's like, hey, all right, we're going to. not going to do the you know nine on seven or whatever it is and it's like yeah that that goes a long way with your with your players and then last year dude we were i mean we were in it for we were losing right i mean like we were one in 11 or something at one point and it was like grinded the boys are still playing yeah and and and we're working hard like it's not like we stopped practice it's not like we cut practice short like we were working really really freaking hard for week 12 week 13 in the season and we understood the the assignment though like Campbell like came to us and like dude like this is what we have to do and to have a guy that's played in it like that's like you just

know that's true you know what I mean and so I think that's more of the difference like Campbell's been in it he understands it and he's good to us like outside of the outside of the meeting room he like talks to us he tries to build like a connection and he wants you to come talk to him if you have a problem, dude, like, go talk to him. And that's why I love, like, because some dudes close their door upstairs, you know, and don't let you come in. But Campbell's always got it open.

Like, you go talk to him, go chat it up with him for an hour, and he'll, like, he'll cancel his meetings for you, you know? And that's dope as a player to have a coach like that, you know? Got a lot of rape similarities. Yeah. How is you in team meetings? Is he hard on dudes? Is it a lot of questions?

Dude, it was, like, he puts you on, Like, he puts you up, you know? If you did something wrong, he'll put you up and make sure you know and it doesn't happen again. But, like, who doesn't do that? You know what I mean? Like, I mean... I feel like, Vrabble is about that. Like, that's his fucking deal.

Yeah. He'll be like, he has teams keys and he has offensive keys and defense keys for each week. But, like, I'm expected to know certain things even about the defense keys. Right. He'll be like, Taylor, what's one defense key this week? What's one special team key this week? I'm like, fuck. Yeah.

Like, he's just... And he puts the pressure on. It's not like... He puts the pressure on. And it's like... Dude's my laugh. at you if you don't know it or whatever to try and like be light about it but variable yeah he wants you to know yeah he wants you to know the expectation is there the standards

there no that's the same i mean he'll he'll go through the keys in the in the in the team meeting and be like hey this is what we got to do and then he'll be like hey hawk who you got to worry about this week you know or like what are you what are you thinking this week you know it's like 57's gonna be over top me i'm gonna have a safety over top too you know like stuff like So he tries to make it very game-like. There's a lot of competition. Like in practice, dude, we're one-on-ones. We're trying to, like, I mean, we're running at each other,

trying to put juke move against the defense. Like, just things like that he wants to see. And, like, he gathers the whole team. Like, you were saying you don't see many wide receivers run routes during practice, right? Like, Campbell will have the whole team come around, and it'll be one-on-ones. And he'll be, like, like, show what you got, you know? Which is cool, too.

because like Taylor's never seen me run a route or like Franks never seen me run a route in practice But then I routed a dude up and he's like Dude you got that like yeah sweet you know And it's cool to have that from guys that don't see it You know like and then they and then you go to Sunday And then you know maybe they don't maybe you don't catch a ball or you don't you know And they're like too what's happening you know yeah yeah

You're like hey man what's going on like They're just not throwing you know and I'm like No comment you know but like it's cool because they know how how good you are in that situation and like how that they can count on you in a in a tough situation when you're in the situation of like in situations where you go through a whole game and you don't get a ball thrown to you or maybe get one throw or something like that and it goes on for like one or two like listen we all know you're a team guy there's no one here is indicting you for a character but like that's just got to be frustrating when you're like damn like

like if i'm playing receiver i want that fucker you know what i'm saying yeah i know the ball can only I mean, you want to be that guy in any situation, right? Like, you want to be a guy that your quarterback's going to look at. And that's the bond that you have to make outside of the, outside of the, you know, football field. Like, you have to have a bond with the quarterback. Like, JG, I mean, dude's texting me right before I got here. Like, you have to have a bond with him.

So when he is in a tough situation, like, he's going to throw it down to you or whatever it is. But, you know, like on the same hand, when you're going in a game, it depends on the game, too. You know, like, we played two games. last year where it was like pouring down rain right and so it's like your mindset has to change a little bit where okay now I'm not the guy because a tight end is a unique position you have to do everything right you it depends like one game I could be split out half the time and then the other game I can be 80% 90% in line and so those games where I mean we played the we played the we played

Cleveland and it was pouring down rain the whole time and it was like dude we might not get a throw off because the ball's wet conditions are slippery, like they have real, real grass. Like, it's tough. And so your mindset has to change in that situation. Like, all right, now I got to be a blocker. Now I got to do this. Now, you know, so it is tough.

But then when you go into the film room, it's tough because it's like, shit. Like, I was open here. But, like, there's a lot of different factors out of this, you know, because of the conditions or whatever it is. It's just, so it is tough in that situation. But, like, you know, it's your job. So I'm getting, you know, like. I'm still fascinated on all the, on all the Campbell stuff. And I don't know how to ask this without sounding like disrespectful or without sounding like an asshole.

But how does. Speak your truth, bud. Well, what I want to ask is how did like, again, off the whole culture thing, how does like going throughout the year last year losing the majority of the year, differ from like losing the majority of the year the years prior to that? You know what I mean? No, you're just saying. What I want to get to is then after you explain that.

that, it's obviously a testament to how you guys were responding. You guys win like the last game of the year when it doesn't even fucking matter. And you're all like... The Cardinal, they beat the Cardinals too. yelling, like, so hype. So talk about, like, how the process was throughout the year when you're grinding, you're in it and you're still fucking losing, even the changes that had been made versus, like, years prior.

Campbell had, I think, I honestly think this, that Campbell had a solution, not a solution, but like a schedule. and it didn't vary throughout the season. Like he knew what week 13 would look like before the season started, right? And so he was the same guy on week 13 as it was on week one. Like we had that schedule.

We had week 14, week 15. It was the same schedule. It was, hey, we're going to relax on you guys. Like, I'm not going to vary based on the wins and losses. Us losing, like we're going to fight. Right. Whereas sometimes, you know, when you guys, I mean, when you get into a situation where

you're losing a lot. The coach can have a fire on his ass. Like, hey, we have to start winning. We got to do this. We got to do it. So you do more. You do this. And then that doesn't help.

I mean, you're week 14 in the season. If you don't know how to run a basic route or you don't know how to run a route that and have the same time with the quarterback, you fucked anyway, right? I mean, it's week 14 in the season. And so that's where Campbell's not making us go out there and run 50 routes with J.G because, hey, we didn't lock up on these routes. Like he'll pick two or three and we'll do them. And then it's like, all right, cool.

You guys got it. You know? That's the different. And he came into the meeting rooms and he's like, guys like, this is what we got to do. This is what we got to do. We're on the edge. Like, this is where we're going.

Like, this is where we're going. And like you, I think there's a fine line with that, right? Because you can say that and you can do it, but like he feels it. And we feel that from him. You know what? Feels what when you say,

like feeling that we're close to a breakthrough? He really feels his words. Like, it's not like he's just going in there and saying it. Like, he really, like, what you see is what you get. Like, you guys, like, they see stuff. And, you know, a coach can front that and do things. But that's not him. Like, he really feels and has the heart for the game.

And as players, like, you feel that, you know? So, like, instead of me being sitting back in my meeting chair and being like, yeah, you know, we have to win, we, you know, like, I get it hard ways the right way. But, like, that's not, you know, like, are you just saying that or are you feeling it? you know, but he's like in your face, and you get on the edge of your chair, and you're like, all right, like, this is where we go, you know? And so we went a couple games last year at the end of the year, and it's like, it builds it, you know, it builds the culture,

it builds the guys, and that's where, you know, you want to be, you know, and that's what you want to do. You guys end up probably feeling like, oh, we're hitting that tipping point. We're breaking through a little bit. Like, yes, it's not going to show on our record this year, but figuring out that this is the way, like, if we stay the course, like, we're headed in the right direction. This is what you got to do.

And, like, when he says the thing, and you do it and then you win and like you're just like I mean dude how many games last year did we lose by Oh my gosh I know you know like it's It was awful like it was so shitty To walk in on Monday and watch the film Because it's like that close

You know and it's like it could be any given play Like you guys know how it is in there's 70 60 snaps a game And it can be one play that's the difference right And so that's what his message was to us is like hey, it's one play. So you have to play every play, like that's the one. It seemed like you guys said smart playing, too. Like, I think it was the Rams you all played.

And you guys played the Rams pretty damn well. I mean, we had how many fake fake, fake. Bro, so many, so many screens like. Onside, fake two puns, I think. Go after it. Yeah. Oh, you got nothing to lose at that point. Nothing to lose.

And JG's for, I'm saying J.G, nothing as you do. JG's now coming. He's playing his old team. He wants to show out. 100%. And it's Stafford. Like, dude. Yeah, and it's Stafford.

it's like a crazy situation. You just flip to you and they're playing each other that year. The crazy thing to me about culture where I think Dan Campbell's that dude is you guys winning those games. And like playing teams so close the whole entire time. Because when I was at the time, when I was with the Titans in 2014, 2015, like we lose two games. We win two games the first year. We win three games the next year.

And all those games came in the first eight weeks of the season. Because you get to the end of the year and no one gives a shit. Everyone was like, wins vacation. What are we doing? And it seems like you when it gives it into the year, I mean, that says a lot about the coaching and like keeping dudes in it and stuff like that. And that's the hard part, right? When you're one in 13, one in 14 is like staying in it. Yeah, it's like, hey, there's only a couple weeks left.

Like, yeah. And still, and then, but like that's, that's where you do have a guy that like changes the culture. Yeah. You do have guys on the team or guys in the in the locker room that leaders, you know, this boy. This dude. Now give me a water. I appreciate you, my guy. I'm over here, cotton mouth of his head.

I know, I feel like you need to wipe your forehead. You got a towel? You can use this pillow. This pillow needs a move, though. I feel like it's easier just to say that because you might be thinking it as you're doing it, like, man, I just fucking, I know, I want to wipe my face really quick. Yeah.

Holy shit. You got a nice little to listen to you for sure, but we all do. Here we are. You guys at least have hats on, right? I'm not for the move. Speaking of, dude, have we, has this been seen to the public yet? Sweet. Yeah, I think it's been seen a few times.

Well, if not over the next, like, probably a few pods. Yeah, because these things are, they're not even out yet, are they? No, people are going to be itching for, man. People are going to be itching for them. We got some fucking worse. Detroit colors ones? You want some Detroit color ones? Yeah, give me it.

Hey, we have those, the boy shirts. I got them. Yeah? You brought them to tie in you. Hell yeah. Well, if we do a Lions one. You talk about the USA ones. The four of the four.

Oh, yeah, I'm talking about. We make football ones, too. Very sweet. I wore them on the fourth. They're killer. Absolutely killer You're talking about the electric ones No I'm talking about the football ones we made

Like Nebraska Like the Michigan one Like the Titans one Oh last year The helmet one? Yeah Yeah yeah yeah The version this year is though

We're doing the lightning ones We're bringing them back Bring the lightning ones back Instead of the football We're going to do like We're going to do like logos Yeah instead of football Or like a you know

Obviously a version that wouldn't get us in trouble But there's your one Why I bring this up It says the Lions, baby. Do you get a Lions one? What we would need you to do? I want a Lions one. You got to support it for the boys.

Tell them what he would have to do for us to make the Lions one. You basically be signing an IL deal with us. Yeah. Without signing a deal. It's basically we need you to go out there and support it. It's where for interviews. Let the boys know. It's like we could post and say, hey, we're going to do.

I do have Hard Knox this year. We're going to do. Oh. Oh. Oh, my didn't get one on you? Gotta get them on there. Plus the Hardnog's going to suck. Taylor and I could post about it.

But, you know, who knows how many Detroit people follow. Follow us. Lost Michigan. Yeah, we need, that's true. That is true. Yeah. So you could do it. Foxy from. But we need Foxy, we need people to pioneer that these, that these shirts are out there.

And you could be our guys since you're one of the boys now. Hey me out. Yeah. Because George wears one and it's just the Tennessee one. Yeah. That one's from like a couple years ago. It's the Tennessee one with the lightning on it. Yeah.

I said, bro, I just love the shirt. So I think we're bringing back the lightning shirt. Okay, cool. As long as that football is gone, because that was like the lamest part of that shirt. Yeah, the football. Because I liked how, would it say the boys in up here? Yeah. And then the fucking lightning.

That shit did go hard. That shit did go hard. You guys got some good merch now. Bro, when we first started this pod, what's that? You guys do the merch? It's like a mix. Yeah, like Will and I did the merch at first. And now, Garrett, who's not here right now, he's like our pseudo-merch guy now.

Yeah. Like, we had Ryan from Hengen. He would do a lot of designs for us. Ryan was outstanding. And then we would vote and pick stuff that we'd like, or we'd bring up, hey, we'd like to see this. Now, like, Garrett, myself, one in the group chat with the bar stool, like they'll drop stuff and everybody collabs and.

We bring in, everybody votes on it. We drop in the group chat. It kind of just gets picked like, I got a little. I'm a part in my take, by the way. What? The pod. Well.

Hey, hey, hey, come on. Hey, Spotify says it. I know, I know, you know. Where are we right now, JP? We're a three or, we're top five right now. Yeah, it's like that. We're probably still top five. The tough part is we're not doing the two a week.

Right. Yeah, but if we're staying top five in the two a week, oh, during one a week? Yeah, yeah. That's pretty huge. I agree with that. Because I think, I think, I think. I think we're going to go to two weeks starting next year.

Nice. Yeah, but that might be a little premature. I, but I did. It would be a little premature. It was cool. When we hit one, when we hit one, then. Four. Four?

Let's go out. PMT's at two right now. Shout out to the boys. You got to pay homage at all times. Who's one? It seemed like a new one. JPMon Green. Somebody new in the algorithm.

Oh, wait, no, never mind. Bill Simmons podcast. Oh, he's stud. Yeah. But you got Tom Rinaldi presents Wesley, but that's like a new one. so I'm sure it's just getting loved because it's new. How's that algorithm?

Like, what is it? We have no idea. We have no clue. I'd be curious. I want to know. We, like, because when we first started, we jumped up to like, we were like number two or one with Jalen Ramsey. No, we weren't.

We've never been one. This is the first time we've ever been one, so it had to be two. No, no. We were one or two in the very beginning, but it was like, obviously we knew we were brand new. Yeah, brand new. So we had no clue about the...

Jalen's podcast holds up to this day. That's how you know it was a good pod. He's shit still. Yeah. Yeah. He needs to come back on. No. Jaylon's a dog.

He's a dog. Played him a couple times. That's Will's fair player. He guarded me last year. Did he? Basically the whole game. How many balls you catch? I don't, I don't want to talk about it.

No. He locked you up? No, no, I mean. He locked you up. It's all good. I had a few on it. He was playing corner. Damn, dude.

Good, good route. We told you good route? Oh, yeah. That's how you know. That's how you know. That's a good feeling. It is a good feeling. When a boy like that does that

does that? Yeah. Yeah, he's pretty... Last play, we had a in-rout, our other tight end was supposed to take the safety, went through Jalen instead. Two guys right there, Jalen picks it. It's tough.

He's a stud, though. And he talks shit, too. Oh, plenty of shit. He does that. So you were, you're on the squad then, because Golden was on the team, right? When they, didn't they fight? Oh. Or that tackle over the middle?

Yeah, that was tough. When they're like, when they're like, during the game? No, they didn't fight during the game, but they had beef because I think Jalen, like, as a kid with a golden sister, I believe. Golden Tate? I think so. Was that in Detroit?

Golden. I wasn't there with, with Golden. It happened like two years ago. He might have been in the Giants. Golden was there. Maybe he was on the Giants. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's on the Giants.

That's right, because I would talk with the, that's right, the Giants. He's got a baby with Golden Tate's his memory. I'm like, well, I didn't want to say. the name like I'm talking with so and so blah blah like I don't want to say the name. Yeah, that'd be tough. But yeah, that was gold. That was the giants because it was over the middle. Golden's a dog now.

That's another guy. That's another guy. Dude, I hit gold. This was like, this was back in my, these were back in my good years. I think he was on the Titans for like. He's done now, right?

I've seen him working out. He was at the Thanksgiving party. Yeah, that's right. That's right. We went for a little bit. But I remember I hit him on one play and he like pop right over. He said, hey, that's a good hit. And I remember like feeling good about myself because I like,

I'm like, oh, Golden Tate, you're a fucking stud. Dude's elite. Storytime about myself. Hey, war stories. War stories. Yeah, war stories. Let's go, babe. Tell him him.

That's amazing. Yeah, he's a fucking stud, man. That guy is like... Every once in a while when we were training or whatever. We're running routes and dude looks good. And he's how old now? Who? Golden.

He's got like 33, 34. Up there. He was there last year. I haven't seen him yet this year. Oh, he'd come on for sure. Have you seen him at Lipscomb this summer? I haven't seen him this summer. You know who else was going on the pod?

is Adrian Peterson. Oh, we love to get AP. I played with AP too for a few weeks last year. Dude's elite. He is. We did a jog through the first day he was there running full speed. Oh, yeah. He hit like three guys.

You know what's funny is dude came in first, like didn't like literally got him an hour before or something. We find out he's at practice. Dude pulls a can of chew out of his socket or out of sock. Just difts it right in the middle of the huddle. I'm like, that's a legend. I didn't even know you could do that. I'm like, I didn't even know you can do that.

That's so sick. He is a stud like that, bro. He really like, he'll shake, you shake his hand. He has the strongest fucking grip. Bro, look at that motherfucker. He tries to break you and put you on your knees and just from a handshake. That dude is yoked.

Why is he boxing? I remember seeing him. My rookie year. I saw that. I saw that. My rookie year, he was in the Viking still when he was like AP. And I remember just like seeing. him and looking at his arm being like

that's robotic the way his fucking arm looks. Yeah. It was just so fucking teet, teet, t'in, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, chiseled everywhere. Bro. Crazy. It's not. Dude ran 100 yards every time. We would be a 9-on-7 and he would take the ball and run at 100 yards.

He was like that. Yeah. They take me out after that. He's all gas, bro. All gas, no brakes. He was over at the house for the Thanksgiving. Yeah, yeah. He's a dude. Yeah, he said, come on. He's like, yeah, I'll come on the pod. you run into your screen. Huh?

You have that screen that comes down outside, like, outside of your, that sitting area. You know what I'm talking about? How you have that screen? Oh, with a tent put up for everybody? Yeah, but it was raining. So I came over when we arrived at the, like, toward the back end of the Thanksgiving dinner. And I see all the boys. Well, just want the food.

I go, oh, I go all the boys. And I fucking just walk straight into the fucking, the fucking screen, bro. Like, like fall backwards. So everybody's like losing it. Oh, shit. This ain't a good look. This ain't a good look at all. I was like, oh, that's AP.

Fuck. He's boxing Leveon Bell. When is that? Oh, let me look. Who went and that's like? Yeah. You got to thank AP. I have no clue.

I got to thank AP. Oh, 100%. I don't know. Levyon's got that neck, bro. And he's got Uthor's side. Dude. Levion saying this is like he wants to do a career in boxing. Yeah, he's done football like he wants to, now he wants to take it.

He wants to just strictly do boxing. July 30. July 30. July 30. Oh, same day. I'm a number slam. Oh, damn. Maybe it's that summer slam.

Dude, who do you think is taking that? AP. I'm thinking of Fian based on youth. I would think Elevian. I mean AP's like. AP lands one that's over. But you can say that with that. I don't know, bro.

He's older. But he's not old like that. He's older football. You're right. He's not like old like that in boxing years. Yeah. I mean, the dude played tall. How old is he now?

How old is AP? He's like 37. He still looks good on the field. I don't know, man. 37. I was always. always good when we hand in the ball

so. He's etched in stone in the NFL. And in physical life. Yeah. He's so fucking strong. To see him continue to like sign deals

and like obviously he's not Adrian Peterson of old. Yeah. Now he's boxing. Like I, part of it's like, what we doing,

Hulk? Well, you know, he got screwed over by his accountant or like his financial advisor lost a lot of money. Oh, that's right. That's the story

that came out. He could come on and talk about that situation. But like, yeah. He's got a lot of kids too. Yeah. He did the tanked.

Have you ever seen that? With the show. With the fish tank, he did that into his house in Florida. Watch the whole episode. So we leave. I love it. Hoc's out there. He knows all the stuff, man.

That was my guy. I love that guy. He got us a bike. He got us an electric bike for the whole offense. Just having them around, dude. Just be him in the building was just cool. Right. Like who we had in the locker room was like Adrian Peterson,

Julio Jones. Like in our locker room, like, yo, this is, y'all are studs. Crazy. Who's next? Tom Brady? Imagine playing with Tom Brady, bro. And just like seeing and being around him. Like trying so hard to be friends with him.

He just won't give in. Like, you just keep trying, keep trying, looking up things he's into. That would be, if he gives you a little something and he kind of fuck it up, you're like, damn, it's over, bro. That would, to me, would be the best part about trying to be friends with Tom Brady. Like, everybody kind of witnessing, that's what you're doing. Yeah. Every day you come in and say something, then you finally get a chance.

You fucking on back. Fuck, that was my chance. Like, every day you come in and you say something to him. And then you know what he's into. So you're like, hey, man, I don't like tomatoes either or whatever he's not into. And then one day hits you with the, what's up in the one? Be like, what's up, Tom? Casual.

Walk back to your locker. Holy fuck he. Talk to me. Put your stuff on. Then you go to say something to him. You fumble your words. You fucking walk away. You walk back.

You walk back. You walk back to his locker like, hey, uh, I realize you saw my name back there. Did you need something? Did you need something? Yeah. Then you start doing. different rounds. Like, you try to bake town him a little bit. Yeah. What's up, team?

You're walking. Or just, like, you get done with practice and you come in, you're about to go in the shower. Hey, Tom, when you're going in the shower? Like, all right, I'll wait. Five minutes? All right, I'll wait. Yeah, like, three guys, like just kind of looking at you. What the fuck's this dude up to you? Yeah, and you look like, what? Fuck, Tom Brady. Because you're a linebacker. I'm off if it's a line, and like, he ain't

talk to us. He didn't talk to us. He didn't talk to me before you because you're to talk to you. But if you're a receiver. I can talk to you. Yeah. If you were, but he even be like, he's gonna yell at me. You know?

His old lineman used to be in commercials, bro. I feel like, I feel like, Tom, I'm like, yo, Taylor, what the fuck are you doing,

man? You're right, sir, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. Hey, yeah. And they like,

Brayble says, somebody, shut the fuck up, Bramble. That's the persona you would have to have. You got it. You got it.

Oh, and be still buttoned up. My personality would die. Mr. Brady, what do you want me to do I don't have to though You got it too smart I'd be like podcast? No I don't Tom

Not doing this you know me I might be actually be off social media What do you want me to do? Yeah I'll film that three months ago Yeah yeah Do whatever he fucking ass Julian Edelman does want to come on the pod He does want to come on the pod That'd be sweet

Edelman be stolen I think that's Brady Amandola too I play with Amandola for my first year You got absolutely butt humped us When he played for Houston On the bus text right now Yeah would you want to come on bus with the boys

With my guys I got you. And then just see what he says. Like, if he's like... My phone's off. Oh, I appreciate the... I didn't want to rant. I don't believe you, but I appreciate the respect.

Seems broken. Yeah, you're right. It is all. That turns out easy, though, right? I'm just kidding. Hey, so you're going into... Year 4. You're going into Year 4.

Yeah. Potential contract you're coming up. New was coming up. Yeah. Go ahead. Handle it. How are you feeling going into that? Like, is it like, are you getting excited,

thinking like, are you getting excited thinking about the potential? I mean, I, you know, you can, you'll say all the right stuff. But. How do you know? Because that's a policy we have to be. And I know your agent. You do know my agent. Yeah, Neil probably called.

He emailed you. That's what I was going to say. Neil did? Yeah. Did you see it? Yes, I did. I saw Neil Carter. I tried to say something.

It's amazing. He always getting that call, call back. No, he just emails like, he's got everybody on email. He'll email financial advice. Everything. It's really not bad. No, I just grin every time he's email. You should fire Neil and go to CAA, though, right?

No. No. Neil's one of the best. They took me out to dinner, though. CIA did. And you didn't go with them? I liked the dinner. It was a solid steak.

It was delicious. I tried to acquire Neil because CIA is like a big conglomerate like they take on agents and stuff. And Neil refers to him as the alphabet agency. Alphabet agency? Why? I don't know. He's like, you know that alphabet soup? That's that age of.

Oh, my God. You know how everybody's like. Yeah, mass produced. That's what they're saying? He's saying because they're mass produced? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, she ain't like that, dude. I feel like I'm their only client.

That's how great CA is. Yeah, because you were like the highest paid, you're like at the time the highest paid alignment in history. Like, trust me, I'm not. I'm going to stroke you off every time too. Hey, what does Taylor need? Will? Yeah, somebody, somebody handled it.

Somebody talk about whatever Will's saying. That's so funny. I think this $2.50 to post on Instagram. Oh, hey, so contract year. Contract year. What do you want? Perfect world. Everything goes your way.

What do you want? How many years for how much? How many years for how much? Yeah. I mean, the way I'm looking at it, see, he's already smiling. Who's the... I'm going to too, I know. I know.

The way I'm looking at, honestly, is I want to play for 10 years, right? The money ain't hitting my bank account yet. So it's going to at some point. I'm going to have to play here. way. It's not about like when I'm done I'm going to look at the money right. But like right now I don't really care. Like I mean like kind of. You don't care about your private. You want the legacy, right? Like that's what you want in the league, right? Like you want to put your best foot forward. You want the best film that you want to play for however many years. Like I'm I want to play for 10 plus years.

Like that's my goal. And the money will come if I do that, right? So when I look at it, that's it's going to come either way. As long as you focus on putting your best foot forward. Right. As long as I'm playing good and I'm doing what I need to. He knows Neil. He knows Neil. I'll leave the contrary stuff up to Neil.

He'll get the most I was able to get. I promise that. You was upset that we got brave to talk about cutting his dick off for the Super Bowl. Really? Yeah, I was like, I mean, Neil, it is what it is, man. I'm not asking that again. You 100%. Would you ask Harbaugh?

You said, something about meat being in the shower. And it was just not that pod. In my head, I'm like, this is definitely one of those straight narrow podcasts. It's totally fine. And Will from the top rope. So do you fucking look at things in the shower?

Like, oh my God. It was just kind of sitting me out there trying to swim on my own. Yeah, I was looking at him. Still trying to figure out. Hey, come on. You looked, right? And I'm like, please stop. I want to get invited back.

You already signed that sheet. I'm an alumni, yeah. Oh, man. Y'all are going everywhere, huh? Buston Bull, dude, November 12th, the first game, most prestigious trophy game of all time. Nebraska, Michigan? Nebraska, Michigan.

That is correct. That's big time. It's going to be big. I hope it doesn't divide us. Did you make a trophy yet? The trophy's getting made. It's going to be heavy. Yeah, oh yeah.

We promise. This is a real thing. Yeah. It's been heavy. It's got like all the little name plaques. You can put like the game and how, what the score was. It's got a big bus on it.

Like, fucking. Sear horns. See your horns on it. It's a bitch. Bronze, gold, whatever you want to call it. That's how you write history right there, boys. Bro, legacy. That's the elite.

That's awesome. It's going to be cool. Like, bro, that's probably the coolest thing if it actually happens, which is going to, it actually is happening. Like, we just got to get to the finish line on it. Like, we got to get signed. I was going to live. I was actually texting with him the day.

I said, hey, I'm circling back. And he goes, we will get it done. I promise. I can't guarantee on the timing. We're just hopefully during fall camp. That's cool because as soon as they sign it, I'll send Dave Abloff and they're done. I sent you the document.

I mean, document as in the, that little scan of the same thing. That's already signed. That's always signed. The AD too. You need to have. It's like the farthest out of reach. Like, I know like my two because I know them and talk to them. Yeah.

Yeah. Like, do you talk to that AD? I don't even know. I don't even know. I was trying to find his Twitter handle to tweet him, but he doesn't look like he does that. He's business. Yeah, he's all. Do you want, dude?

You want that. But if Harbaal is down, here's what I think is Michigan Harball, that program is so competitive. If you just get Nebraska to sign off, if they don't sign off on it, it's not a good look. Right. If you get three out of the four and there's only one left. And the 80s start marketing it now. He's got a sign that, yeah. If it doesn't happen, they're going to be upset.

Man, that would be so cool. Dude, that is going to be sick. I don't think that'll divide us. I think it's going to be the most fun, like, fun rivalry ever. Yeah, but like, if y'all win, I'm going to be hurt. You're going to be hurt, but you're like, we're all going to play into it. We got to make a small. little trophy. A small one. We had the Bay

trophy, but we have the one that lives in our house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, that's exactly what we're going to do, actually. That's exactly what we're doing. Dude, that's awesome. A little mini trophy. So this is your last year of your contract. No, they signed my fifth. Okay, yeah, yeah.

But they're going to get it done between they'll get it done before your fifth. I've no idea. What is the conversation you've had to have with yourself so you don't get caught up to? Great question, Will. Just what I said. Every player that's coming on, like, their contract stuff, whether it's big, small,

whatever the case would be, you're excited to finally enter into the free agency world of, because when you're drafted, it gets slotted. Obviously, it's the first round is you get more money and stuff. But when you get to get into and you're like, all right, I'm about to enter these negotiating waters, like, what's the market? How good am I playing? Like, my value will be here or there. Like, what's the conversation you've had to have with yourself that, like, keeps you removed from it?

I haven't, I don't play this for money, right? I mean, like, that's, I started it when I was a kid, and I love it. I love the game. I love football. I love the grind. So that's the conversation I've had is like, they always, like, I see shit. You see shit online, right, all the time and saying, like, are you making your 10-year-old self proud, you know? Like, I don't.

I don't, I'm not, I'm not looking at it like that, you know? I'm not looking at it. Like, my 10-year-old self doesn't care how much money I have, you know? Like, it cares the legacy I leave and how I play this game. game. And so, like, I want to play it right. I want to do everything I can write. And that, like, that side of it's going to come, right? Like, I'm going to make money. Like, either way, I'm, I'm in a league where you make money to play a kid's game. And so that's going to come. It's going to hit my bank account eventually. Like, right now I'm not worried about it. Love that. That's solid.

You said that too, very well with a lot more, like, confidence. I ever appreciate it. There was no way of bringing your voice. You're kind of like, you've recited it to yourself a few times. Like, you know what you're talking about right now. When he said it's hard, though, dude, when you, go ahead, sorry. No, no, no, finish that. When you're going through contract negotiations, it's like you play that same game in your head that you're playing, but there's going to come a time where the negotiations,

have they started or have they not started? Give them some game. Give them some game. Yeah, I'm saying, have they called you? You can say if they called or not. Like, have they called and offered anything? I don't think so. Okay.

Me would tell you if they did. Right, no. At least you absolutely should. C.A definitely would. What happens is once offers start going in, then like that's when, uh, ego and insecurity can develop the most.

Because you, you're always going to get, you're not going to get offers. It's like, oh, fuck yeah, let's take that right away. It's going to be a low ball offer.

It's going to be not a lot of minimum, not a lot of guarantee. And it's like kind of like, you know, these guys disrespecting me a little bit. Like, what's the deal? Then you got to play,

then it is like a business. Okay, like now I am trying to get my money. Like you do play a kid's game. But there is a point where you're like, now's the time for me to make this. Like, who knows if you're going to sign a third contract. And then it's playing the game of like,

what if I have to leave? Like, then eventually you're having that conversation with yourself if they're not budging on something. Like with the Titans, like they weren't budging for a while. Yeah. Like the Titans went right up to training camp with me. And there was a point I held out for a mandatory minicamp.

And they're like, all right, we don't talk to people that aren't here. And they did. Really? And I was like radio silence for like six weeks. And then like two days before camp started up, they were like started back up.

And even like going into camp, you're like, damn, is this shit going to happen? Like, what's the deal? And you're polite, like, you're one. running like, well,

that's the hard part, right? Yeah, because you have to go to work every day. You have to work, and you fall in love with, like me personally,

I'm a Tennessee Titan dude. I fucking love it. If I ever had to go, go somewhere else, like it would fucking hurt. Yeah. Bad, because, like,

I've been able to be somewhere for nine years. That doesn't happen. No. He's only got to play somewhere for nine years. I think it's like a very small thing. And so I,

I would be just like torched if that happened. But back then, when you're going into year five, you're like, do I want, Do I have to go somewhere? What if I don't like it there?

What if it doesn't work as well? What if the taxes are higher? Then you have to play this game with yourself internally. And it does consume you a little bit. Especially if I had like a kid and my wife and I'm like trying to make sure everyone's solid. Right. You know. It makes sense.

It's a stressful game. No, I 100% see that. Because you go to work every day with these guys, right? And when they offer you something and like you have to see them every day. Yeah. So it's like, I mean, I'm, but again, like. I do my thing between the white lines and I'm good, you know, but I'm with you.

Like, I understand where that would happen. And there's a piece of people that are like, what if I get hurt while I'm doing this? Yeah. I'm fucked. And you're like, oh,

now everything's gone way down. Right. Like, I'm like, all right, am I going to better myself to get to the end of the road? George put it really good when, uh,

he was on, I forget who he was talking to. Maybe it was with Josh Allen. Uh, but he explained it like braces. Like, you know, you get braces.

You have them all the time. It's fucking sucks. But once you get them off, you forget it ever happened. Yeah, I did see that clip. That's awesome. Yeah. It's a stressful deal, dude.

Yeah. When it happens. Like, right now you're not, it's not there. I'm good, yeah. Usually you guys, like, I don't know. But they probably, have you looked at historically how the lions do their contracts? Yeah, I've seen a few emails. And so,

so historically did they do contracts after year three or year four or going into year? The last couple years, they did it like this last year. Like, I mean, Frank signed his year. four, I think. Yeah, year four going into year five? No, he's sending it going into year four and then fifth year. Like they renegotiated that stuff. Yeah.

But I don't, I wouldn't know. Like, I don't know how they would want to do it. You know what I mean? Like I said, I haven't got a call. So it's like, not really worried about it. You're balling. So I wouldn't, I mean. Appreciate you.

Everything that takes care. Everything does take care of itself if you just play well. Yeah. That takes care of it. It just becomes, there are moments you sit there and you lay in your bed and go, what if this happens? What if that happens? Like the game we all play on.

life. Like even when you're in college, like, what if I don't get to the NFL? What am I going to do then? Your brain's weird, right? Your brain's crazy. It brings up some fucked up shit. Yeah, you can't trust your feelings. You can't trust your feelings. Yes. That's a great point. And you got to be, you got to be smart and you got to be analytical with everything you do. And so, and your brain is like, nah, do this, not do that. Right. And it's like, you got to chill for a second and be like, is that smart? You know what I mean? Like, because the first, like, I mean, we've all been in a situation where we do something like that. And you're like, fuck. fuck, dude, why did I do that?

Right. You trusted it. And so where it's like, you need to take a second and just be like, all right, let's relax and understand what's going on and play this game, you know? That's why you turned off your phone. See? Smart. You are balling, though.

I appreciate that. I'm trying. You're fucking stuck. I'm doing my best. You said it on the last podcast, but Iowa, I know there's an argument going on out there about who tied in you is between Iowa, who's in Notre Dame. I hate this argument. Notre Dame is pretty solid.

Notre Dame is very solid. Yeah. The argument that you... But like the last, like, 10 years, I'm with you, like, historically, maybe. But, like, the last 10 years, last... You've got to get the current guys and everything else. Yeah, I mean... Iowa does have a case.

Right. I mean, two first rounders in the same year. And then we have George Kittle, you know, I mean... So I was in a... I wasn't even arguing with him, but Dane Chris, he was a quarterback for the... For Notre Dame. And he was, like, going back and forth because I had posted something about about tight-in-you because Michael Mayer was on the podcast.

And if you're watching, go listen to that episode. But he was like talking about how the trophy, the tight-in trophies named after a Notre Dame guy. My question is, at what point, this isn't even... The tight-end trophy? What tight-end trophy? The Mackie? He went to Syracuse.

Okay. Well, I don't know exactly know what I'm saying then. But... I'm one-man. What's the Bay Ten trophy? Is there a Bay Ten titan in the year? But Notre Dame's not the Big Ten. Oh, that's right.

It's the Qualic Clark. Where did he go? Dallas Clark. I won that. Where do you go? Iowa. Iowa. Okay, maybe some of that.

Anyway, this conversation just made me think, like, at what point do we rename trophies? I don't think you do. Really? Well, like, say, like, so, for example. In 30 years? Are you having a got, you know? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, like, 30 years from now.

So, Taylor, I'll just, I'll ask you for offensive linemen. Like, who's the best offensive linemen that you've witnessed in your, like, generation of playing? Trent Williams. Oh, is he over Joe Thomas? I think Joe's like the epitome of consistency. Like he's a dude that, like, you know he's going to be fine the whole game. Like, Trent just does shit that dudes can't do. Yeah.

So, like, decades from now or a couple decades from now. It'd be like a Trent William. It'd be like a Joe Thomas or a Trent William Thomas trophy. No, Trent. You know? They combine the team. Well, there's the Bayton office alignment of the year is two names that are put together. It's like the something Pace Award.

I don't know where they. It's probably the two last names hyphenated. That's exactly what the tight-in one is. I don't know who Qualic is. I don't know where it's from. But Clark is that. Look up the Bay 10 Offitz line of the year. I should know it won it twice. But

Remington Pace. Yeah. The Pace played for Ohio State, right? Orlando Pace. Let me see. And then Remington, who's named after the Remington I think. That would make sense.

I think it was the Wisconsin guy. Where did Remington play? They say Michigan. I'm not so stupid. No, because Oscar Get out of here

Remington No I'm not in the brass Oh man Come on now Relax But yeah I would do a hyphenated one

But like Do you I guess I guess all The Allen trophy Is Do you think that like That's like a valid

Like hey At what point Do we change the trophies Right Yeah yeah I turn to the Long Hutchinson. Jake Long and Steve Hutchinson.

Yeah. I thought you were about to go with Aiden. I was like, all right. No, I'm okay. No, dude. Those dudes, they're the best, they're the best two offensive linemen to play at Michigan. Those these are fucking, Jake was the first overall pick. All pro, first four years he played,

or at least pro bowl. And Steve just got a jacket. So. Like, at what point does the Lombardi change to the Belichick? Right. Oh, I don't think it ever does. it doesn't. I think it should.

Why do you think it should? But it's just like history. Like it started. I understand that. But like now we're getting into a generation where we're obviously going to remember every like everything is like you have technology and everything else to where you have. Like you didn't have it as much back then. So you, when the game started and the best team that showed themselves the best coach at the time was Lombardi. Like that's all you have to go off of.

Now that we're getting now that we're getting there's way more history coming into the league. Like at what point do you rename it to like, yeah, the Lombardi to the Belichick? Or to the mad, like if you want to pay homage to Madden. Are you forgetting history? Like, you know what I mean? That's tough too. Well, we're turning down statues. Hey, just making politics?

Nope. Make a political. Yeah, I know. Hey, my man out here. We got to relax. But I think that's like a fair thing, right? Yeah. Or, I mean, the national championship, is that named after anybody?

The NCAA? I don't think it is, no. Okay. Like if that was named for somebody, at what point how long does Saban have to be retired before it's called the Sabin? Or like if you're the Heisman winner,

obviously the Heisman was named after a dude forever ago. But like, if you're the greatest college football player of all time, you should, like, you are the Heisman. Who's the greatest football player of all time in college? Probably Connor Shaw.

Get the fuck out of here, J.V. But what does Brady get in the world? Who is the best college football player of all time? I don't know. I saw something. Either Richard Sherman might have tweeted this or matter of fact, I think it was just, it was Charles Woodson. But Woodson's like, you have the Heisman and then on defense, you call it the Woodson.

Even though it's him saying it about himself. Like that's funny. But that is a good point. Like if you got defensive player of the year, like calling it the Woodson because he's like the pinnacle. Yeah, Michigan guy. Huh? I think they do. Damn.

There is. In facts over there. I think he's right. I don't know. They all get butt hurt because the Heism and stuff. You know what I mean? I don't think you change it, change the name of it. I like them the way they are.

Because that's how we're afraid to change. But I'm saying like, that's how we grew up though. That's how we grew up. But the longer we go and being named the Lombardi for that trophy specifically. It's the cooler and cooler of a year. It's like an old car.

The Lombardi sounds cool. I mean, people are growing up now too with it, you know. And you change to the Belichick. It's going to take a couple years. Like, we're so used. Probably take a decade. You're so used to the college football playoffs, but, like, when I got to college,

I wasn't even there at first. And then they changed it. Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, if you change it, it's going to be fine. It'll be fine and it will, and that's great. But, like, I don't know if you change it.

It just sounds dope. The Heisman. What do you change it to? The Woodson? Okay, change it to the Woodson. It's like, that shit's sick. But, I mean, we all know the Heisman. Everyone knows the Heisman.

Truthfully, I didn't even know the Heisman was named some guy named Heisman. Yeah. That's what I was called the Heisman trophy. Why would you think, what does Heisman stand for? It's like German for a good football player? No fucking clue. Oh, you hit the Heisman on him.

Because the dude did the fucking... I thought it was from that song. Yeah, yeah. It was from their fucking song, man. Well, who knows, dude? Who knows? Say what I do know. I know I want some tear talk.

Ooh! I know I want a little tear talk right now. That's a good 90-minute pod. That was solid, dude. Oh, oh, oh. Easy Cillus. He's a good. of the goddamn ice cube through that whole.

Hour to three hours. Really? Yeah, but the time... I think the three hours is... We just did a three-hour one yesterday. Yeah. They don't usually go three hours. Who's the three-hour?

Steve Byrne, man. Steve Byrne. Really? But the two talk took a very long time. About 30, 45 minutes. I feel like we might have made a mistake having all of them back here. They get the other name all?

I don't think that's a mistake. I like that. We were quick. I think the mistake is going three-three. Yeah. Three. It's like, JP's going to go and he's to give his three-to-one. So now this might not be a wrinkle that doesn't seem fun at first,

but maybe it could work out because then you've got to talk through it. But say we write our tears on a piece of paper and then we show them. So that way somebody's not hearing the entire time what our tears are. I like that, but it definitely affects me. That affects you personally. Yeah, I'm always last. Oh, you change your self-proclaimed last. Because here's the deal.

I'll look at movies. Like we're doing... I was looking at stuff on you, and you said you love Disney movies, Lion King's your favorite movie. Yep. So we were going to do Disney movie. You took mine.

Believe that, bleep that, believe that. Oh, shit, sorry. But we're going to do Disney movies for our tier talk, like top animated Disney movies. Love it. And so, like, in my head,

I know what my three are, but sometimes someone's going to pop some shit off. I'm like, damn, that one is fire. But do I change it? Because I didn't think of it at first? That's the question we all have to play with ourselves. It is why I think if we all the dish,

you would get some like, oh shit, that's a banger. Yeah. But do you think about it? Do you have a chance to change it then? I think it goes into your honor I think it goes into, because the hard part is you eventually

got to go to the internet and then it's got to be a little bit of a we're competing a little bit more on the internet. Yeah. But if you're doing it here... Will's competing. Hang on, you're not competing? I'm competing.

But I got some different tastes. I know, I know. But so what I was going to say is, like, even if you do want to change, like I think that's good conversation when we talk about dude typing other dudes. are opportunities bag. That's a really good one.

Now here's, you're just like, man, what the fuck? Here's the issue of, like, competing in the internet. Like, if I wanted to win, the easiest way to win is knowing whatever was going to pick. Like, when you picked your sports movies, like, you went super basic. But you know, like, the internet's going to take that. Oh, my God. Taylor, like, called me and he's like, hey, the cameras aren't on. Just tell me if, like, you really believe that.

I'm like, yes. No, he didn't say that. We're on the phone for 20 minutes, bro. My favorite sports movies, Rocky? Remember the Titans? All the Rockies. First of, does it make fucking sense. Hang on, you're really,

Rocky 5. Stop, stop, stop. You're really hanging on that. Like, if I had to pick it's Rocky, the original. Yeah, he had to pick Rocky 1. Yeah, Rocky 1. Rocky 1. Remember the Titans and Friday Night Lights.

Those are my favorite sports movies. Three sports movies, best three sports movies. Yes, and I know that, like, those are, those movies are the best publicly received movies. So if I wanted to just win, I would go to what movies are the best, what have the best cult followings. I'm going to pick those movies. I'm going to pick those movies.

Me personally, when I pick Goon is my number. one movie. For me, it fucking gives a butterfly. I got goosebumps yesterday, literally talking about it. So when I do that,

that movie has like a cult-ish following, but not publicly received by everyone. Right. So it's like, I'm gonna lose. But if I wanted to win, I'd have been like, Friday night lights,

miracle, and any given Sunday. And people would be like, it's a pay on the one. You know what I'm saying? Even Sunday's a good one. But I think that's the issue I have is you think that that's what I'm doing.

I do. No, You want to win some. Do you look them up before you go? No, like, if we know a tier talk, we're actually the last couple we've gotten better at, like, letting ourselves know so we can study. That way, we're not on the spot. Because I did tell Taylor, I could easily, uh, totally went off my head, by the way.

I didn't look it out Friday night lights for being my tier three. Now, I still love Friday Night Light. It just might not be my tier three. But the way we did it, that was the day we were at the hotel doing tight in, doing tight in you for a few different guys. So we had to, like, think kind of quickly. Foster one was sweet. Yeah, that was fresh. He's for trash.

He's in a nice tale from one of his sports movies. How did he say it? He said medieval times. Yeah, medieval ones. Yeah. Bro, he's so funny. Bro, he seems like a dude you want to be around. Yeah, yeah.

He's the guy you want to be with at the cafeteria table. For real. For sure. Yes. For sure. His vibes from what I've heard in the clips I've seen give me Robert Splane vibes. Am I often saying that? You're like, they're just different people.

You're often saying that. But I know what you mean by like being a grinder. loving ball. Yeah. Because Foster said on the pod, he would, he would, he's like, I don't know if I should say this. I would take less money to stay to chase championships with the Raiders. That's how he said it. You know what I mean?

It's like, hey, say, speak your truth. Speak your truth, really. Have them up, dude. Have them up. So that's kind of our history of the tier talks. Right. So tier talk basically, do you follow the tier talk? Do you know, like, you're allowed to give an honorable mention as well?

An honorable mention? A half, which a half. I love how that's just like. acceptable. Yeah. Honorable mention is good because it's like, damn. Will try to put two of the...

Will, low-key, he's loose as fuck with these rules. He's super loose. But I think that... The three Rocky movies really fucked me up, bro.

That's just, fuck me so bad. We can't do that. We did those movies. Like, we all just kind of like chuckled about it that I'm choosing, like, multiple movies.

No, Garrett and Jack were literally saying like, yeah, during Titan Tideon you, Will really did whatever the fuck he wanted. What does that even mean? What did you think? Rockies. It was, uh,

Rocky 1 through 3. I think those are the best ones. Okay. It would go 1, 3, 2. Okay. Yeah. That's not awful. Isn't Rocky 5? Doesn't everybody love that one? You're thinking 4. Rocky 4. Yeah, the Russian. The Russians way too, like, it's like a mainstream and it's way too, like, fake. All right, let's hit these.

Are we, yeah. So, TIR talk? Tier Talk is going to be over animated Disney movies. Just all of them. Just, yeah, I guess all of them. So you guys, okay. Only Disney, though. It's not all of them. Yeah, only Disney. Not like Pixar. I think that would be a fun one, two.

Pixar's got some bangers. They do. Pixar is now acquired by Disney, so. But we know we're talking about it's got to have that Disney label. It's got to have that little, munk, munk, and he jumps in the eye and the eye. That's Pixar. I know. I'm saying that's for a Pixar movie.

That's what you got to have. Yeah, yeah, okay. I thought you about saying. Don't interrupt me again. But to your talk. Are we explaining that? Do you explain why? Yeah.

Come on, Matt. I thought you listened to the pot. I do, but I don't ever know if you want that. That's always better. If you just rattle them off, like, listen, we're going to make your chart. Your chart's going to say it. Right. You share it online.

The best part is getting your... We'll see. You have to say my name right. You have to spell it right. Is it Hockinson? Have we not been doing that? I spelled it wrong. That was quick.

You got ahead of that. You got ahead of that. I was. I was. I deleted it. I was like, you know, that's a little rough move. Especially after Will dropped all those balls. It was like, all right.

Damn. That's crazy. I love that. No, I appreciate it. Bro, I knew something was coming. The way that that was setting up, I was like, fuck. Oh, you didn't even know about it. No, when they make the trailer, they just make the trailer.

Damn, okay. I like that. We got a good squad, man. We got to do our squad as elite. You just think I'm the one making all these trailers? Maybe. I appreciate that. Like, I was just working.

The photo of his Madden rating. Anything that's about Will, Will, tweet. I didn't tweet the, uh, um, Collab I did with Jack when he Photoshopped me in there Now that is usually true Like I'm my biggest high man No question about it

Don't make me sense You aren't a bad and raining Do you actually have a real one? No Really? Even though you were on a team last night I think it takes for the season to start For the free agents to be calculated in

Oh okay I did hear Kaepernick's on it though He's a free agent They probably just need that for the sideline footage For the national Hey make sure you keep that in the podcast right wing willie right wing willie out here

you know capernick's on there but you know they need that you see hey you see what goes through taylor's brain when I say that oh that motherfucker cappernick man problem is middle as they come relax so yeah tear talk animated disney movies you're gonna go three to one if you throw an honorable mention that's kind of like a trick of the trade like you want to shout one out that you can't include in your top three because you're like i'm going all at once

Yeah, you're going to go on once I'm the start of that Here's a deal J.P's going to go first Because J.P. because he's here and there's no other boys to fight with He's going to get his first three How J.P. does it,

you're allowed to elaborate as much as you want On your movies. Like me personally, I like to give a little context Why I have the movie Right. Things that I love about it. 100%. Here's what I want to ask you, Taylor,

before J.P. goes. Them boys back there were spending some game before we got to go. Should we pick ours, go ours first? and they just do theirs last. No. Are we looking things up? Do you think about that?

They're spitting game? Yeah, like if he says something and he explains it well and it's something we've got to piggyback on, like it kind of takes a flavor out. You like the friends thing that happened to us yesterday? Yeah. I think that's fine. Okay.

Proceed. My tier three. No honorable mention. Yeah, no honorable mention. You know I keep mine quick. I'm going to go with... I'm going to go with... I'm going to go with...

Where was it? Oh, Hercules. I thought you were going to touch out. My Tier 3 is Hercules. Am I giving you all of them right now or no? Yeah. All right, Tier 3 is Hercules. Tier 2.

I'm going to go with... Let me go with a Goofy Movie. A goofy movie is one of the most left-on movies of all time. From a goofy is. When they get locked in the car with the bear... God. Or that Bigfoot, it's not Bear. It's like a Bigfoot.

Yeah. That should just kind of... Nerv-rackling on the mall. Yeah, skateboarding. They're fishing. They're always getting to antics, baby. And the spinoff they have when Max goes to college

and he's like skateboarding with the boys and stuff like that. He's falling in love with that jazz chick. Ooh. The character is a smoke now, too, dude. Yeah, some baddies in the goofy movie. The way you look down, she's a smoke, too. Yeah, well, hey, listen, of all the dogs.

I go ahead. And then my... From Aladdin? My tier one. Exotic boys. Oh, man. I feel like everybody's about to have the same one,

so I'm not going to say. Should we label a God tier? I think we should. Well, God tier only happens if it's everyone's tier one. Right, but should we just openly talk about and maybe move the mics and whispered to each other? All right, let's,

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It's going to be Bambi. Whoa. Bambi. Wow. That's real old school. Sometimes you just need to get a little emotional in that scene where, you know. That's almost too emotional. You got to bring that up.

I know. Talking about the mom? Yeah. You said when you had your first, what, your first feel like, you know, when I started to start something. No question. Yeah. Probably the first time I cried during a movie.

See, I think mine might have been Lion King. I think the Bambi one might have been like It was like a shock factor. It was shit. It was like, dang, that's really life. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, those are my

your talk. And Fox and the Hound is like that too, though. No, there's so many good ones. No, bro. Fox and the Hound was, I don't know about for you guys, it was like my, I guess, first Disney movie. Yeah, it was up there for me. You know when you open the box

and it kind of like clamps down? Like the big boxes, the big cases? Oh, yeah, okay, click it in. Yeah, I know what you're saying. That was my first, like, movie. Yeah, I was left up in the corners. Man, those were, I think those were solid. I like those.

Those were good. I like it. It's hard because they used to get around for so long. Yeah. Yeah. So if you want to give an honorable mention, go for it. You don't have to do these. It's just like a guideline.

Yeah, it's just a guideline. Right. An honorable, so I got to start with an honorable mention. You don't have to. You can just stay in three years if you'd like. Um. Let me think. I got to think of one.

So my honorable mention, because Will Smith played it, but it's not new. I'm not talking new. Because I loved it in the old ones. He's Aladdin. I loved Aladdin. That was my favorite. The flying carpet, I used to get on a carpet and literally fold the front and be like this.

I love Will Smith. The new one was that fire when he played the genie. And Jasmine. Yes. She was a good looking. Come on, I felt something. Oh, for real. I felt something below the middle.

First time. Don't you have a kid? What do you mean? What do you mean? Oh, you're talking with the live action. I'm talking about a cartoon. We're talking about a cartoon. Oh, shit.

A cartoon, Jasmine. Come on. What's this feeling, mom? That's tough. Buddy, don't touch yourself. You keep going. That was... Whoa.

How old were you? My number three. Young Buck. Would probably be... I got to think of it now. So I had, because we took the Lion King, that's,

that's God's tier. That's God tier. We had to, we had to throw that one out there. My number three is probably the Little Mermaid. Oh. You about them smokes. Interesting.

The Little Mermaid, flounder? Come on now. But you had the, you had flounder, you had, when she learned how to walk. That was my sister. Sister and right and she

always made me watch the like the actual princesses and so I used to dress up a little bit she's 18 months younger than me What'd you dress up as? Yeah No, we used to, who'd you dress up as?

No, I used to have like she had wig She had all that so like when I was little dude I mean I was being a good brother You know? Who did you dress up as? Little mermaid. I had the red wig I had the I had the You have little, do you like have a little

You like have a little... No, I didn't have all that. I didn't have all that, but I didn't have all that, but I was a good brother. Do you have photos of that? No, they're not being sent. Oh, man. Yeah. Right.

You know, you know his dad was like, hmm. It turned out. It turned out, okay. No doubt, dude. No, but... You like being Ariel? That's cool. No, it was...

Like, Disney growing up was like my biggest thing, right? And so when I had a little sister and we watched Sleeping Beauty, Snow White, all those. Cinderella. The classic, the classic princesses. So I had to put one of those in there, right? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. I can't go, well, Peter Pan was fire too. You got that up there, but I can't say that one. But number two is the Jungle Book. Number one. That's a good one. No, I'm number two now.

That was honorable mention. That's right. Yeah, come on. It's a great movie. The Jungle Book was fire. The Bear Necessities. as I get about your worries That's a good movie

That is fire Solid one You made up for that Yeah Blaine in the river And then My number one is Tarzan Very solid choice

That's a solid movie It's a good one Jane and Tarzan It just taught you to not trust humans Right Right Yeah no I love that pick That's a good

I'm a big fan of that thing Do you know it's in Will's tears Yeah Is it? I mean the way he acted Yeah, 100%. I would say that was a solid tier talk. I appreciate it.

Yeah. All right. My honorable mention, and this was like a movie that came past kind of my generation, but I absolutely love it, is Finding Nemo. That's my honorable mention. I thought Finding Nemo was absolutely incredible. It could be a lot of different emotions and feelings. My tier three is The Incredibles.

I'm a big fan of like the superheroes I appreciate it's a Pixar movie isn't it Is that pixel that? Yeah I actually have What's Finding Nemo too I just looked up Finding Nemo

Finding Nemo is dead Is it See I wouldn't have known that This is big Whoa wait a I'll take that back Finding Nemo was produced by Pixar And released by Waltz

Thank you because that would have been in my top three Yeah I apologize Yeah I apologize What was the other one I'm looking up You're looking up

The Incredibles Man my man He did his research, huh? That's tough. So. Pick a princess. My boy is rattled right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a little shaking.

I'm a little shaken by that. He's going to pick the first one he sees now. No. I'm trying to think about it. Give me a fucking minute. My honorable mention now is going to go to Aladdin. You guys have already heard me speak on Jasmine. Rocket.

Yeah, rocket ship. I love Aladdin. I think that was your honorable mention, right? Or your tier three? That was my three. My tier three is going to go to Emperor's New Groove. I was a big fan of Emperor's New Groove. I thought it was hilarious.

Emperor's New Groove, number two, is going to be Tarzan. I fucking love Tarzan. I thought that was a phenomenal Tier 1 by you. It treats you to fucking not trust humans or whatever. But the scene where Tarzan battles the guerrilla. Oh. all fucking time. What's the gorilla's name?

Is it like, that's a tough one? Like Kerchick? Yeah, Kerchick. Oh, I think it was. You pulled that out. That's Kerchick. I went from the hip on that thing.

Yeah, that was nice. That was nice. Good memory. Yeah, but when he's hanging, like you're sitting there, you're like, man, and then you start kind of walking around the grass, your backyard seeing if you can kind of be built like Tarzan.

Curl the fingers. The fight scene against Kerchek was incredible. So my tier two is, is Tarzan. My tier one. this was this is an all-timer it's up it's definitely like one of those things that's up there in every ranking i believe but toy story like when the alien gets picked out of thing the whole uh the whole you're killing me that ain't

disney what yeah it's not disney you're killing me is toy story Pixar yeah it is we just talked about it toy story was the first toy story was the first Pixar disney glass the the the the light jumping on the eye Come on. My two one will be the God tier lion king. I guess move them all up. There is no fucking, there is no goddamn honorable mention. My honorable mention is going to be fox and the hound.

Yeah. Okay. Wait, so run through your one, two, three. So my one now is Tarzan. My two now is Emperor's New Groove. My three is Aladdin. My honorable mention is Fox and the Hound. Lady in the Tramps another firearm.

They don't have that up there. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm shaking right now. Because what I did, I was, too. I typed in animated Disney movies when I was going over it last night. I was like, oh, these are my fucking ones. Huh? A lady in the tramp. We all know what my top three tiers are going to be for Pixar.

For real. All right, all right, all right. So God tier is Lion King, correct? Yeah, I think afterwards we definitely pay Hine King. homage by talking about how good the Lanking was just so we can... Absolutely. ...that out there in the universe. Okay.

Let me move that and then... Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So you're smart, right? And I'm down. I try to go off the cuff. I know. Well, this is like last night when we were talking about it.

I was like, I had nothing to do. Let me write these boys down real quick. That's smart. That's a smart thing to do. Oh, okay. I would like this. Can I switch one? I think I already switched.

This is fucking crazy the way it will. Dude, the way it will handle us to your talk now? I know. I switch one. one. Hercules. Hercules would be my three. All right.

What was your third? I love Hercules. Um, Emperor's New Groove. So now, so now Will, now, blustered. Now Will has, seven movies he's talked about. Burn them all.

All right. So my honorable mention, and it's a sleeper, like kind of forgotten about movie. I thought it was fantastic. And it involves appliances, trying to find somebody so they don't sell a cabin. That movie is the brave little toaster.

That's a good one. Yeah, That's a good one. I love that movie. Because I knew last night, this is why I'm happy. I did some homework. I was looking at movies. And I knew like the ones everyone has said.

But I was like, what do I not remember? And I literally looked up like, forgotten Disney movies. And Brave Little Toaster was on there. I was like, bro, that was a fucking hitter. So I had to say the Brave Little Toaster is a banger. I forgot about that one. My tier three.

And it has already been talked about, I think, the bonding between father and son, going through adversity on a cross-country camping. trip is something that needs to be talked about, and I hope I get to do that with my unborn son someday. And that is the goofy movie. I think the goofy movie is fantastic. My tier two is a movie that even when I watch it now, it makes me fucking laugh. I enjoy it, dude. You have an emperor who's an absolute asshole to everybody that walks around. He's just drunk with power. And then this scrawny Carrella DeVille looking cat wants to give him a little bit of poison.

A, but big muscle buddy fucks it up, turns him into a llama. And that is the emperor's new group. Phenomenal movie. I love it. It's outstanding. And my tier one is going to be a little bit of Greek mythology. A young boy is born by his dad Zeus, and I don't know who the mom's name is. He is sleeping in his crib, and then Haiti's little gremlins want to go and snap his ass up.

They try to kill him, give him the potion. It doesn't work. the dad's fucking pissed and he lands into the world found by a sweet older couple who raised this young, strong, strapping young lad who's a bit of a clutz. Straps him in, puts him in this small town, he doesn't know who he is, finds out who his father is,

gives him that internal confidence he never knew he needed. Goes and sees this half goat, half man, who's gotten everybody, every hero that's always let him down, he wanted to find the one, that one that would transcend a God level, and he wasn't really willing to take him. but he finally does and through bumps and bruises and adversity along the way

my man wins his right to God send up back with his family and be the legend we know him and that movie is Hercules damn great description that was great thank you very much that was my tier one

that was my tier one I did want to say on the The Brave Little Toaster that was like the first movie I watched it like when I would first go to like daycare school and they played on the you know that standalone TV

the wheel in oh but it's a hitter yeah it is The hitter, you get the mad vacuum, the upset vacuum. Another one that's actually Pixar that I really wanted to put in my tears, legit put them in, was all dogs go to heaven. Great one, dude. Yeah.

Bro, that one was a hitter. I live ahead of Google that. Is this Disney? And it was a fucking Pixar movie. Yeah. Pixar got some bangers. Some Bears. We said it was on Pixar guy over Disney.

Who would have known? Who would have known? I love the Pixar movies, bro. Literally. Yeah, obviously. We had four of them. Lion King, though. I mean,

Dude, Mufontas, where was Lion King? Are we cutting right now? Wait, wait, no, no, no. Now, dude, but Lion King, though. Yeah, Lion King, though, is really that, dude. It is. Timoan and Pumbo are like the sleeper MVP's that.

No. Ra, who's the monkey? Rafiki. Rafiki is the sleeper of that entire movie, dude. Y'all could tear the characters of Lion King. Oh, we sure like tear the characters. I mean, I send my three. Should we do it right now to pay how much to God dear?

Yeah, I'm down. Pay how much to God? I love where this is developing. Yeah. All right. This is your favorite movie of all time. You got to hit us with it first. You can go.

I have to go first. The Lion King's your favorite movie of all time? Yeah. No, well, not of all time. Not a little article. I read five things you want to know. Well, it's all time. It's your favorite movie.

Oh, really? Yeah, if you could tear the characters, what would you do? I was trying to look at the movie. I was trying to look them up. Love line. I need all of them. I remember standing in line. Like, I remember standing in the line was wrapped around the theater getting in.

Scar can't be up there, right? Yeah, you can't. Zazu. We got some grambling. Zazoo. Zazoo. The bird. No disrespect to you, Zazzo.

Zazoo's elite, but he's a nerd, for sure. Yeah, he's definitely got, he's like the sidekick. He's top. Ravikiki is your number one. Mufasa's god tear, right? Mufasa is such a fucking legend. He really is, dude. It's like the mystique about him.

Like, obviously you don't get him a whole lot, but the mystique of Mufasa. Nala's, such a fair leader. Mufasa origin movie. Oh. That would be election. The higher of this man. Oh, hey, J.P. just did something, dude.

Nala, elite, coming to get Mufasa. So who's your three? My three. I have to tear him as a similar. Is Simba number one or what do we think? This is your, this is your vibe. No God tears. No God tears.

Yeah, like you can, like Simba's obviously like he's a stud. I'm going Pumba in the hot tub. Uh-huh. As a tier three? Tier three. Okay. Number three. Keeping me warm in the hot tub.

Easy. When I was a young woodhog. When I was a young word hog. Outstanding. Um, number two would have to be. I mean, it'd have to be Rafiki, right? This is you, brother. No, it's, no, I'm working through it.

He's just, he's thinking out loud. You got to, when he does it with, you know, holds up Simba over the, over the, um, the rock elite, right? Writing on him with the, what is it, the grapefruit? Yeah. Yes. And then number one's got to be Simba. Of course, right? Taking on Scar.

It's killing him. Yeah. At the end, returning it to private. Right. Right. At the end, when he, when he does the exact same thing, he did Scard to Mufasa. Yeah. Just, uh, elite.

Yeah. Right. JP, what do you got? Tier three. Easy Ed. Fucking love that one. Fucking love that. It is hilarious.

That is so awesome. I love it. Easy Ed. Two, I'm going to go, uh, yeah, I'm going to go Pumba for two. And then my. one is Rafiki, mainly for the speech he gives Simba when he's like trying to hype him back up. Look at the star. Oh, duh.

Those are, yeah. Oh, my God. Knopf him over the head. He's like, ow, it's in the past. Yeah, it's in the past. Great one. Yeah, that's solid. I'm going to go.

And it was such a good pick. I do love that. That is a good pick. Honorable mention ad. Honorable mention that. Oh, my God. I'm going to go. I'm going to go my my three is Rafiki.

Oh. He's the middle man that brings it all, brings it all home. Like you said, he motivates Simba. My two is Simba. Simba is John Snow before John Snow came about. John Snow brings everybody together. Simba, it's the same thing. He's got Timoan.

He's got Pumba. He's bringing everybody along with him. Simba's my tier two. Obviously, he defeats Scar. He brings Pride Rock back to what it rightfully was before Scar took over and made it to just a shitty spot. Like, what are you enjoying him? Hey, he turned in the hood.

Yeah, like, what are you enjoying about that? You know what I mean? One. Mufasa. Damn. Mufasa, the mystica Mufasa. Like, you were always looking for that figure in your life that you wanted to make proud, whether it's your father, your head coach, and anybody.

Mufasa's fucking got it because he's teaching the young cub. Everything the, like, touches is our kingdom. No, you don't go over there. He's got to save Simba a couple of times. He gives him a nice turn talking to. And then he's with him. Like, obviously, Rafiki kind of teaches him to talk to him a little bit more. but Mufasa's my number one

Is your present father? Yeah, very impressive father He's your president He's impressed. And he's got fucking What's his name's voice The dude from San Lot, Darth Vader James Earl Jones

Like This boy's spitting You need to have him on the bus Bro, for real You're out there Really doing it I love it All right

I needed to come back Something clean on two talk I just put your dad Disney movie If we're doing If we're doing honorable mentions I give honorable mention To Scar

I think he's an outstanding villain, dude. When he fucking claws him and fucking throws him into the buffalo, the water buffalo. Oh my God. What a fucking elite move. And in the live action one, dude, you legit, like, it kind of fucks you up. You seen the live action one? I think the live action movie is so shitty. Shitty?

Live action movie? You really? Oh, brutal. I hate looking at Pumba on it. Yeah, it's tough. But I thought it was really good. I watched it with a little five-year-old boy. There was me and him hanging out.

split on it. I thought it was the worst live action movie that Disney's done so far. Really? I was really let down because we all love it's got a tier. Like I love the lion. Yeah.

Ed is my tier three. He is just a goofy. He's a villain, but he's like, you know, I think he's there by mistake. Like he kind of like got adopted by the squad and like,

he's got a good heart at the same time. Like he's a good ass dude. My tier two hasn't actually been which I'm really surprised about is Timo. I think Timoan's fucking awesome. His dynamic of Timoan and Pumba is great, but I think Timo, without Tumone around

Pumba dies in 15 seconds by any other predator. It's over. And I think Timoan does a good job of steering that ship and keeping him alive. But my tier one is, I mean, dude, this guy's a modern day philosopher for Rafiki was he was outstanding.

The marking, the wisdom, it makes you think, And it's one of those things that you don't appreciate when you're a younger kid. Like you don't really give a shit about Rafiki. But then you go back and you watch it. And you're like, damn, like, Rafiki really was just spit in truth the whole time. And he puts the whole thing together. Like the motherfucker catches like, what, a piece of fur to realize, what does he say?

He's back. Yeah. And he gets all hype that Simba's not dead. Remember? A scar made him run away. They chased him off. And then they're like, Simba and Mufasa died together. I might watch that movie tonight.

Yeah. I might watch that movie tonight. Yeah. It's so damn good. But those are my tears, and I'm proud of those. I can't believe if y'all didn't say Timoan. I mean, Timon's a good one. I love all the characters.

It's just I had the big three. Have you seen the Lion King one and a half? Yeah, I've seen them all. Have you seen Lion King? In there, a two? I don't know. A two, a one and a half. There might be.

The one and a half is elite because Timon just narrates the whole thing. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. That's cool. It is really cool. And they're like watching it. Yeah.

That's when they're young cub. It's like Scar's sister or Scars. or Scars ex-wife. They have a young cub. It's like a little mini scar. Is it number two? One and one. One and a half, yeah.

I think it's just the same story just from the backside. I'm thinking of two then. Yeah, so there is a two. Yeah. Where there are cubs. One and a half is literally

the exact same story. It's just from Timo and Pumba's side. And Timo narrates the whole thing. Okay. He's sliding down the waterfall and all that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know which one you talk about. But there is a, yeah, there's a two.

Like, there's like a nephew involved. Yeah. Some of Scars family gets involved trying to, yeah, that's fun. That's tough. I want to add more characters like that. Damn, all right. Solid tear talk outside of myself. I think, you know what?

When you look at the nuts and bolts of what you came with, like after all the fluff of what had to happen through your Pixar debacle, you're going to like your graph. I'm going to like the graph, but I'm going to have to like, you know, I clearly I was not prepared for this tier talk. I do like my movies. Like, I'm sitting there listening to you. I'm like, Taylor and I can watch Disney movies together.

I was telling Gary with the sitcoms. Yeah, he did good. He would 100% have been in mind if it was in his name. I remember even talking about Hercules last night while I was laying in bed, like going through him. I was like, hey, Hercules is a fire one. But, yeah, I love, I don't even know what my three are. But he came with three Pixar movies.

It was two. Yeah. It was two, right? No, your honorable mention. No, your honorable mention. Tarzan was in there. Tarzan is now my one. Which is wild.

What kind of makes it. Toy Story and the Incredibles. Finding Nemo, Toy Story and the Incredibles. Those were your three. No, Finding Nemo was an honorable mention. I was in there with Tardt.

But I'm saying like your Pixar movies, that's what's going to be. Oh, I get to use those? No. Oh, you're saying when we do Pixar, yeah, absolutely. It's done.

You're going to talk. It's already chosen. That's great. That's so funny. That's funny as hell. Fucking great pod. Yeah, we appreciate it. I appreciate it.

When do you head out? Sunday. I'm excited. When do you guys report? Tuesday. So I'm going to go up there. We have a little golf thing on Monday. So I think I'm going to be a part of a par three closest to the pen with the,

maybe the hockey team or something. But hockey players should really get at. Really good at golf. Yes. They have a stick in their hand all day. I know. I wish we got more hockey players on there, but they're just. Have you had four times?

Have you had Phil on there? No, Phil. You need to get Phil on there. We had Yosee on and he was good, but it's like those dudes are like trained their entire to not speak publicly. Like, they're like to like, yeah, when they get a mic in front of their face, they just clam up. Like, Johansson's a fucking beauty.

Like, that dude's all time and he's hilarious. But I bet you if he came on here, it'd be like washing paint dry. Yeah, he's, he's hilarious. He's awesome. Yeah. He'll put me in terms of James Neal, too. James Neal's my neighbor. And so I think he played, he played for here.

He was a hockey player. He played for the Predators. And then I'm pretty sure when the expansion game, expansion team of the Vegas Golden Knights, he was plucked from there. Got you. Shell's my go-toe, so I like...

I love hockey. Big shell guy? Big shell guy. Oh, dude, one thing we missed that I really wish I was a part of was video games. Yeah, you know, you missed that, yeah. I think I'd actually like to see Kittle on the sticks for Super Smash Brothers. I'd like to see him on the sticks for that.

Do you think who he plays with? Who's your character? Yeah, I was gonna ask. Ness. Ness is my kid. If you can figure out how to play with Ness, like he's... I was gonna say, because they all have their own, like, combos and stuff, right?

I'd play on the, um, the switch with you. Nah, switch is lame. The 64 is where it's had. I would play on the switch. Like, I would just have to get... Once I got the 64,

going to figure out of the controls, like, I'll play with you. I have a 64 at the house. What's the big pink guy? Oh, Kirby. Kirby. Kirby's kind of, yeah. I mean,

everybody loves Kirby. He should be getting character that you play. Like, okay, he can float around. I know I'm safe for a little bit. I can kind of just die bomb on people to make this break. But that would be my tier for sure. I fucking love Super Smash Brothers. Shout out Jack Greenlee, dude.

He basically taught me how to play that game in college. This kid is, I've never seen somebody. So fucking good. Like three on one taking dudes out left and right. Hmm. Yeah. But you know who the best in the Titans locker room is? Your boy.

It's not even close either. Have you had that? Have you had that competition? Yeah, Dennis Kelly used to get on the sticks. Jack Conklin got a lot better. On 64? Yeah. Did you bring it in?

We brought in. I have three. Damn. One from when I grew up. I have one from college, and I bought one. Where are they going? They're going for like $1,500 now, aren't they?

Are they really? Oh, your boy is just sitting on some cash then, bro. I think they're going for a lot. $4,500. I have a nice one now, right? They went missing. Yeah. Super Smash.

Legit is one of those games, too. It's, like, cost, like, $60 to buy now. Yeah. I was a big Mario guy. Mario Party? Mario 64. Just regular Mario Bros. 64 Mario on, when you jump into the paintings?

Yeah. Yeah, that was, those are, dope. That's like a fun one-player game. Mario Party. Deviless him was a hitter. Old an eye, bro. Love it. We should legit do tier talk of 64 games. I agree with that. Because George, we had to do all of them. I would like to do, like, how we did Disney.

Like, you do in 64. You do PlayStation. You do Xbox. Yeah, man. There's too many video games to choose. Right. I know. It was so a hard to fucking pick, bro. Sometimes. Yeah, you put you on the sticks. Yeah, everyone's small. I'm not huge into it. I like Chelle. I used to be

me lead at Chelle. But I like, but I liked your pick of Red Dead Red Dead Redemption, I would have picked Red Dead Revolver, though. Yeah, I know you liked that. I like that. I was on, like, PlayStation too, wasn't it? Yeah, it was on Xbox as well. But yeah, Red Dead Red Dead Redemption, I fucked at that. Yeah. I never played the

Revolver one. Yeah, Revolver's dope. Do they have the characters of Red Dead Red Dead Redemption? It's kind of like, there's not as much of a storyline, it's not like free range, but it's dope. Yeah. But you still, like, acquire better guns, better horses and shit like that. It's cool. George's number one, how to be Halo, right? Yeah, it was like Halo.

I mean, he's got a tattoo of it. Yeah, Halo's when I bought an Xbox. That's a kid. That's like why I went to Xbox. Yeah, I was never a Halo guy. I still have a PS5 now. Do you? Yeah.

Oh, those things are on PlayStation. I see the real gamers are on PlayStation. Really? That's what I heard. Like, PC and PlayStation are like the real gamer moves. See, I have a, oh, no, that's not. I was literally about to live. They're like, they can do a lot of shit on those.

Bro, PC games? Do you ever play Diablo? Uh-uh. That shit was un-oh. You had one. knowing we were going through that Skyrim. I love Skyrim. Oh, yeah, that'd be my tier, too.

I thought Skyrim was the best. It reminded me so much of Diablo. Diablo three expansion. That shit was awesome. And it's like Thrones. Yeah. Skyrim. That shit was fucking awesome.

What I didn't like about Skyrim is like the main storyline was really short. If you actually just did the main storyline, you get through it in a few hours. A couple days, but you know what I'm saying? And then like the side ones like, you really got to like, you really got to do your homework on the game and figure out like who you want to be, like, how you can be a thief, you can be a vampire. be a whole bunch of stuff. And once you choose a path, like you really can't go back and change up.

You can, but it just takes, it's going to take a long time. Yeah, it's not even, but I liked it. I was all in the blacksmithing and shit. Like,

that was my number one go-to. Dude, I always wanted to be evil, but I just never could. Right, you just want to be the hero. I'm with me. I know,

I played Oculus. I would tell myself, like, man, I want to be the villain. I could never do it. Bro, have you all played Oculus?

Like, the virtual reality? Yeah, I was a sane. I was playing Walking Dead Saints and Sinners. And it's legit like you grab a gun, you're holding a gun, like you have a backpack

to store shit and you like create things. It's fucking awesome, dude. And it gives you a lot of choices whether you can be good or bad. Do you have an Oculus? Golf on there. Yeah, I do. It's fire, bro.

Dude, there's a rock climbing game too. And that's scary. Like, when you first do it, you're like, raw climbing around, you'll look down and your legs will shake. Dude, that shit's fall. I would fall, bro. Bro. You legit.

I'll, like, I'll, like, I'll, like, it freaks you out. there's a paranormal activity game too you can play bro you walk into a room you walk into the house and then like you do something all of a sudden you see something running like you like what the fuck was that and then you're like walk in you can move your sticks to like walk instead of like actually walking and like you go into a room

and then you come back and the front doors and all of a sudden board it up and just like find these things and like basically put this puzzle together to like I didn't beat it but shit's crazy bro do you run this one on there the Star Wars is off it? You run into shit yeah no no no like we're talking about real life

Sam Brett, you gotta pull out, use. Fucking sick. Yeah, force push. Oh, it's awesome. And what about the video I sent you all in? Like, my girlfriend walked in on me playing the Oculus. She knocked on the door. He was in there.

No, you don't want to say. You can put this, like, put this, like, protective ring around you. So if you start walking, for real, it'll actually, like, turn gray and you'll be able to see the room. Oh, okay, I'll walk too far. That's cool. So it's kind of a nice deal. Yeah, that is. And you, like, you have.

basically hold these two things you can move around and look around. You turn your head to look around. Then you move like the left joystick to like walk. One of my buddies said golf on there is really sweet. Yeah, I heard that shit's dope. Yeah. You probably feel like you're in just beautiful spots. That's what's cool about it.

You go to Pebble Beach. Yeah. Do you think you're really doing it out there too? You think you're really fucking playing. Like, yeah, you're really in all these. Like we're really headed from like a virtual reality standpoint. Like we're headed to Ready Player 1. Ready Player 1.

Yeah. We're headed. You're lying. You're lying. but this is a guy, he got more podcast. Didn't someone tell me that? Didn't that what kind of NFTs are? Isn't that what kind of NFTs are?

Yeah, they're talking about the metaverse, right? Like, non-fungible tokens? Yeah. Right. They're going to be doing that stuff for sure. Like, you'll be able to probably watch football games on the sideline. From the, like, quarterback's view they're talking about. Holy shit.

That should be crazy. Oh, no. That would be. Or from, like, going out, like, any player's view. Like, say any player's view. People would understand how hard And you're sitting there like, you know,

Miles Garrett, you're about to go against Miles Garrett, like washing it from your helmet. Play as Will Compton. Woo! By that time, though, you'll just be in the, you'll just be on the couch somewhere. Dude, imagine picking like a player that doesn't play, and you're like on the sideline with the boys.

Fucking go, boys. Third string-ass cat sitting there. Man, coach ain't let me play. Hey, you could hear him. Man, coach didn't want me to play. He's trying to, he hating on me. He hating on me. Running down on kickoff, though?

Ponce? Oh, shit. And on a swivel? Bro. People start watching that and be like, oh, football. It's a lot harder than we all think. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, you moving around? Shit's so fast.

Shit is so fast out there. People might stop talking shit. Nah. That'll never stop. Twitter, lawless. Lawless world. Yeah. There's too many people that look up their name.

I'm like, dude, how do you do that? I couldn't. I've done a few times. Yeah, for sure, man. It's not like a, that's a scary world. You got to go lose yourself. That shit hurts. Yeah.

Yeah. The one that would be the shitty part is, like, typing your name on Twitter search. Yeah. Oh, you've done that. Yeah, I put, like, the quotes around my name to where you just saying Will Compton. Oh, shit. Yeah. It's not like... Yeah, you don't want to see that. Back when I was on, like, the Redskins, that was the... Yeah, that was... That'll put you in a bad mental.

Especially when you think you're, like, playing well. You know you'll not think you're playing well. You know you're playing well. Obviously, that's when it affects you because you're like, oh, damn, people have this certain perception. Yeah. No, they don't understand the game. Sometimes, like, your coach would be like, dude, that was awesome. And then the same plate, people are talking shit. For sure.

For sure. Yeah. What? People are haters, dude. It's all people are. Yeah, great pod. Good job, guys. Subscribe, rate five stars.

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