Bussin' With The Boys - TJ Hockenson Talks Why JJ McCarthy Will Be A Stud & If He Is Bitter Towards Detroit After Being Traded

Episode Date: July 16, 2024

Recorded: July 15th 2024 | On this weeks episode the boys are joined by fellow boy and friend of the show, Minnesota Vikings tight end, TJ Hockenson. The guys start off the pod talking about the wild weekend that just happened including the assassination attempt towards former president Donald Trump. The guys give their thoughts on it all and throw out some conspiracy theories behind it all. Following that, the guys get into football. They talk about TJ's knee injury that he had at the end of last season the his road to recovery with that. They also touch on all of the different quarterbacks he has played with, any bitterness towards the Lions for trading him and what happened with the Vikings last season and the frustrations that went along with it. 0:00 Intro 3:22 Donald Trump Assassination Attempt 16:07 Conspiracy Theory Talk 22:20 TJ’s Knee Injury Recovery 38:10 When Will He Be Back? 42:20 TJ Got Married 45:58 Small Town To Big City Culture Shock 47:41 His Biggest Purchase + Hunting Talk 53:41 Giraffe Or Wolf? 58:10 Will Might Get A Hair Transplant 1:01:51 CFB25 1:05:46 Tier Talk - Best CFB25 Dynasties  1:23:08 All The QBs He’s Played With 1:32:21 Getting Traded From The Lions  1:42:56 Vikings Frustrations Last Season 1:53:02 Vikings Prediction For Next Season  1:59:50 Shoutout’s OTW 2:05:42 Twisted Question OTWFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey guys, it's us The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen.

We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.

Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smygle and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. podcast. Hey, it's Ashanti Plummer from Fud Around and Find Out. This week, AZ Fudd and I sat down with Step and Cary. Step talks pressure, confidence, and what it really takes to stay great. There's different categories, I guess, so I'm like conditioning, shooting drills where you try to simulate

kind of games. Look at her face. We have a love-hate relationship with those because you know you're getting something out of it. You don't look forward to those days. Listen to Fud around and find out on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get. your podcast. All right, we're good. Bussing with the boys. Broughin with the boys. Bro.

Ladies gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Busen with the Boys, episode 285. I have just been told from the back of the bus. special guest with us today. Can we get some enthusiasm? Very special guest with us today. Mr. TJ Hawkinson, baby. Let's get a big round of applause. Big round of applause.

And I love to talk to you about, yes, the Chevy Sovarado Bus with the Boys is presented by Chevy. This is a Chevy truck podcast, the greatest trucks ever built. And our good friends at Chevrolet have been a big part of the bus and family and even our personal life. Chevy Silverado, longtime awesome partner of the show, a show with commanding an unstoppable grip, legendary capability and dependability too. So find out for yourself like so many of our boys.

Head to Chevy.com to check out all the Chevy trucks, Grit and build your own Silverado for Do Yourself projects to off-road. Oh, no, road trips, off-road adventures to tailgates, whatever your thing is. It all starts with a Chevy truck. TJ, it's an absolute pleasure to have you on here, man. Dude, I appreciate you guys having us. I see your cozy too. You got the leg up, lean back a little bit.

I've been on here a couple times now. Yeah, dude. You want to sit? You're trying to lock it. Yeah, so. Yeah, so tell me about these Lucy's because I haven't had these yet. Lock in. I know, but they're different colors.

I put a little more flavor, put a little extra flavor in there. So, yeah, you walked in on the other side and you said, I got my, I do like coffee. I got my Z words all ready to go. And we said, what we do at the same time. We said, whoa. And then we brought these little boys out. We said we'd have this conversation on the bus. These Lucy's, man, you pop them with your teeth.

So you do, you do pop them. You can't, you can or you don't have to. Or it hits you about 20 minutes down the road. Pop two of those bad boys. Gets some nicotine in your system faster. Little orgasm in your mouth. Just hits you right here. What milligram are these?

Those are four, but they go up to 12. Oh, yeah, yeah. Give me another one. Oh, I got one. You got a whole little deal there, huh? I like it, though. They have a little trash thing on the top. Yeah, they thought of everything.

They did, yeah. Yeah. That's huge. The company you're supporting right now, that's big tobacco. That's a big tobacco company. That's a big tobacco company. That's Fortune 500. Is it?

Big guy step on the little guys. you don't know what kind of chemicals are in those things. Lucy, the guy who started this, he's an astrophysicist. His dad looks him in the eyes and says, listen, you're fucking your entire life of blood.

You're ruining everything. Because he went to Harvard. He's like, you're messing up your Harvard degree by getting, you know, a degree in... What was it?

Astrophysiology. Nicotine? I guess so. Yeah. They end up starting this company. So this is like essentially the mom and pop shop of nicotine. You're supporting a small business

just by putting that in your lip right now. I do like small businesses. Yeah. That's huge. You want to talk football first? Do you want to talk about something else? Whatever you guys got? All right.

Trump was almost assassinated two days ago. So, yeah, are you Republican or Democrat? Does that make you happy when you saw that or sad? I mean, I think that's just a sad thing in general. I mean, no matter what side of the aisle you're on, I think, you know, that's an issue in the country, obviously, is just they're so divided in any sense. And, yeah, that was definitely a tough one. Are you going to play it right now?

Yeah. That was, that's a wild scene. I think there's a few different angles, right? A few different angles. Let's put on the tinfoil hats. Assassination attempt. Inside job. Or a complete set up move by the Trump campaign.

I think there's three, there's three layers out there. You can, you know. Right. Well, hold on. Before we do that, I think we should also both give the insurance policy being like, yes, that was wrong. No one should have done that. There you go. No one should have done that.

It was wrong. We need to not fight that way. It's just embarrassing that we're at that, that we've gotten to this point. Yeah, there hasn't been an assassination attempt since what Bush, right? 43 years. 43 years? That's crazy. Reagan.

I thought there was an assassination attempt on OG Bush, but I might be speaking out of my ass. I kind of saw that in a tweet and I kind of took that information, kept it and didn't look and do it at all. You're probably right. There's probably an attempt, but it just got. And there's levels of badass. And I think this is the pinnacle of badass after getting shot. Like, say what you want, repubby. Demi, you do whatever you want.

But when it comes to Trump and getting Gray, Demi, getting getting grays in the side of the ear standing up and saying, I want my shoes and says, wait, wait, wait, and then puts the fist up, puts the fist up as everyone's chaining USA and then that iconic photo of him getting,

going off the stage with a flag in the background, that is badass. It couldn't happen more perfectly. I mean, like, with everything that he led up to, I mean, that was insane. Dude, and if that's an assassination attempt, if he just doesn't move his head, he's dead. That's the crazy part about it. You know what I mean?

Yes. Like, he's dead. I know. And there is, I mean, it is fun to jump into the conspiracies of every single situation, right? Do we really land on the moon, 9-11, lizard people, all those types of things. What's Colorado Airport about? But this is interesting because there was a video that came out. I wonder if you can find it, Sturmdadi, but there is a video of the sniper to,

stage right to the left of the camera view of Trump speaking and his scope is his gun is pointing a certain direction he looks up and then you hear the gunshots go up and he gets back down and pulls a trigger so that tells you he saw something suspicious going on anytime you see a guy you don't know with a gun on top of a roof and the gun is pointing

towards the area you're supposed to be protecting probably pull the trigger sooner rather than later but it brings in the idea that I think a little bit of an inside job you think it was a setup by Trump I think it was both a real assassination attempt because you got you got you got you got all the you check all the boxes right like young white kid with a rifle on top of a roof like that seems what usually happens that seems to be what

usually happens um then you got what you're explaining with the sniper being up there seeing something and getting back on his gun like the dude people pedestrians are able to take photos of this kid and you're saying the secret service or all the people that are on this job was not able to see this kid or understand what was happening. And there was another interview after the whole thing. It was this cat with like a red visor. Yes, with the fake hair, right? He's saying he saw him was trying to tell the police and they didn't seem to do

anything about it. I think there's a little bit of. Well, there's been videos of like people filming the guy walk up the roof or whatever and then lay down. Right. Yeah. Like calling his name too. What are you doing?

Calling the local police like, hey, there's a guy up there on the roof. Right. Like, I don't know how that doesn't get relayed. but we've all seen shooter like what's the other what's the what's the what's the Netflix series as well yeah is it called shooter no there's a there's a there's a Netflix series it's like uh the president dies so the independent it was the vice president he actually takes over for the country oh I know it's like I know it's designated yeah designated survivor yeah good pull JP and uh dude these teams that are on this stuff like you don't miss something like that at all whatsoever and the

ability like I want to say somebody talked about him in a press conference one time but somebody maybe having a gun they had them off the stage within seconds this one it seemed like people weren't back like yes and people still standing up I don't know it just seems little fishy to the board and there's that guy there's a guy sitting behind Trump he's like wearing a black like a fedora and he's got curly hair and when everybody starts a duck he doesn't move at all and then he mouths something and people are saying he's mouthing like now you know yeah or something like that something crazy something crazy something crazy those are the things and I love to like, oh, I wonder what this means.

Yeah, that guy right there. In the top left corner of that photo. Yeah, that's wild. And he's like holding his phone up. And then you see people like kind of start ducking. He just goes like this. He doesn't move at all. Then if you play the game of total setup job by the Trump campaign,

like Trump, he's been in the WW. He's been in the ring. He's beat a Vincent Man. Like, what if he just drops to the ground, and he just takes a blade to his ear? To me, insanely genius chess move. If you're watching it from a bird's eye view, just, you know, being like,

the commentator on the whole thing. Right. Because it is, yeah, it's a horrible thing would happen, but now everyone is basically saying that there's no way this guy doesn't run away with it. Yeah. And what was hilarious too is you sat back and this video was going around, like what Joe Biden would have to do to get back in the race of Trump. And it's Vince McMahon getting into this limo.

And then the limo just blows up. Oh, my want. Yeah. So Lucy breakers are, you know, it's a great. Great segue. Yeah, great pouch to chew on. Well, we didn't get a weird thought, though. You think it's an inside job?

And we're having fun here, right? Yes. You're not going to get in trouble. No, no, no, I'm not. Yeah, I mean. He's in the NFL. Right. Politics.

Yeah, it's tough. I mean, it goes either way. I'll be here from Neil pretty quickly. Yeah, no doubt. He will text you, I'm sure. No, I don't, I don't know that it was an inside job. I think it was definitely a little sketchy on how the whole thing happened. But, you know, I think.

It is. It's kind of been a lead-up, you know, over the last, whatever, 12 years since Obama got out of office, you know, the last three elections have kind of been a, you know, they talk about it as a do-or-die thing. And that's like, that's tough to, you know, if somebody's going to take that real, you know. So, I mean, it's hard to continue to the rhetoric of, oh, it's a do-or-die election and assume that nobody's going to do something drastic, you know, which is kind of crazy. So I think just the rhetoric in the United States and in America, like, it's an election, you know, go vote rather than, oh, this is the end of democracy or this is the end of, you know, civilization if one guy wins or the other. And that goes both ways. But like, it's kind of crazy the amount of, like, people are surprised now that like this happened. And it's like, it is surprising and it should be surprising. but like there's been such a lead up to it it's crazy and it's also in the in the weird corner of it not being surprising because you know there are people there are people that like you know wish he would got shot right oh yeah which is crazy there's people that wish oh that wish Biden would tip over

yeah before it all before the election happens right and to wish that i'm just saying like those are those are things that people out in the deep dark corners of the internet talk about i don't think they're that deep and dark you i feel like a lot of people are like damn yeah but nobody actively comes out and says shit like that oh man i saw a bunch of you know what i mean it's like when something like that happens you'll be seeing stuff pop up on like oh man wish they would have wished he would have wished he would have died or something like that which is crazy yeah yeah i think we're in a unique spot too because you really the next time trump speaks obviously everybody's going to be tuned in but what a what a spot to where it's like everybody is just denouncing all this violence and where we've gotten to

and all this divisiveness because that's where it's been right i feel like the middle the majority of the middle now are you know speaking up a little bit more just because you feel like you're shunned if you talk about one or the other because it's such a do or die you make it believe it's such a do or die situation. It's like this 20 year old, he was 12 when Trump first got elected. It's like, wonder what's driving or what's cultivated his mind unless it's like, you know, there's the kooky inside job to where he was just kind of like the kid who was going to do it. And they just took advantage of some mentally and stable cat. But if it was his own doing, he was 12 when Trump first got elected. Like what has been going on in his mind up until that point to where he

thinks he has to climb a roof him, try to pull a trigger on the president? The vaccine. To be tried to remembered that way? Welcome to the bus with the boys. Yeah, dude. Podcasts for the boys, by the boys. By the boys. I don't know, dude. The older I get, I just feel like there's all that deep, what do they call it?

Deep State. The Deep State. Deep he's fucking on top of it today. He took his alpha brain. Because he's part of Q&O. Yeah. Dude, the deep state, all that stuff, it just seems realer and realer to me. Yeah.

There's other people behind, the Black Rocks, the Rothschild. Everyone's just kind of running things from the background. Yeah. Because how else could he get so corrupt? And now there's so much more information, so many more videos being taken, that things are just being found out faster. And it just so quickly goes by in the media cycle of 24 hours. I've really found myself 32 years of age, kind of believing what people are saying.

Kind of believing in the deep state stuff. But then you got people who are scared to even talk about it. It's like I thought, was it Garrett Wilson? Oh, Sawd Gardner. Sauce Gardner. Yeah, my fault. My fault, sauce. But sauce is, he put up a couple tweets that are like real things.

He almost doesn't. He's trying to like learn about stuff. And back, you know, why does your vote have to be deemed as something that is like, you know, you hate me now because I'm siding with, let's say, Trump or let's say Biden. But he wrote up a couple of tweets of like, you know, you got new people who are coming to the fold that are trying to potentially educate themselves. And people are like nervous to even do so or even talk about it because you get, you get shunned immediately when you bring it up on what you might be on one side or the other.

It's like such a side thing, which is a bad place to be. And it's obviously resulted in an assassination attempt. Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, can you bring up, if you just go to his timeline, I think it's the most recent ones. I like Fallen Sauce, man. I like, yeah, I like Fallen Sauce. He did. I saw that and I was thinking to my head.

Oh, no, I hope the boys don't see this. It's tough. Keep going, keep going, keep scrolling. Yeah, you're right. It's right at the top. My main tweet. Is that it? Hang on.

Whoa. Okay, so bring up that initial one he did before he quote tweeted. Okay. It says in all honesty, I never voted before and I'm unfamiliar with politics, but I do think it's odd to judge people based on who they vote for. Maybe it's not odd and I just don't understand because I'm not familiar with it. Somebody fill me in. I appreciate that authenticity because I do feel like a lot of, especially with New Cats coming to the fold in politics, it's like, yo, what is, why are people just so on edge all the time? He says, I say this because it's no such thing as perfect people, which means there will never be a perfect president.

it'll always be things that people don't like about what a president does and things they dislike so people could support a president based on one good thing that he or she will change and disregard the not so good things so it's not fair to judge someone based on who they vote for because that doesn't mean they have the same exact morals morals and values as the president so I thought it was articular well yeah I thought that was articulate very well yeah yeah shout out sauce shot the boy sauce gardener um yeah that's real I mean you can't hardly even have a conversation with people that like, you know, have different opinions because then it's just like it becomes a heated match. And it's like, that's not, I mean, you can have a different opinion and I can have a different opinion, but like we're still, we can still be boys. Right.

You know, like, but that's almost not a thing anymore. I find myself just leaning into more the humor side because you know you're not, if you're trying to have like real conversation, especially on the internet, like they're just not going to, you know, you're not going to solve anything. No, you can't win. You're not going to change everybody's mind either. Right. Yeah, people are too, like, walled off to all that. It's crazy. that like when we were kids, you just like you don't talk about religion or politics at the dinner table.

And I feel like that's all it's talked about now. Especially when it's an election year. It's like everyone's talking about this, that, and the other. Destroy some families too. I mean, like people like, I got a family reunion. Like people, you can't even talk about it.

It destroys bands. What is this? What do you got pulled up here? We got the conspiracy theory iceberg going on over here. Yeah. You're bringing up Denver airport. a couple of those things.

Yeah, I've always loved the iceberg, man. This iceberg photo is always with a top. The way we've seen the iceberg is just all about your character. What you see on Sundays? Yeah, what's below it. Yeah. What's mirror world? We are actually living in the mirror world.

And can you give JP the mic? Whoa. The mirror world is like when you go into your bathroom and you look in your reflection, that what you're seeing is actually the real world and you are the mirror world. So you don't know where you exist. Hey, do you see Neil de Gras Tyson talk about... What is.

Neil DeGrasse, that's a scientist, right? Yeah. He was essentially saying, in one clip that I saw, so we could take this out of context, that it's very hard to argue that we're not in assimilation. Very difficult. Yeah. That someone's not playing a game on us

and chaos is always happening, and the only time chaos stops happening is when the player playing our game goes to the bathroom or goes to sleep. Yeah. Have you, has anybody seen the new TV show Dark Matter? No, I've heard about it though. I've heard about it.

I love how about T.J.'s here, but he said like four words. We're all like, yo, what about this? Yeah, I'm fine. Dude, Dark Matter. So you go into this black box, right? You inject yourself. You go into this black box, but it's like this unlimited universe

of like doors you can go into and depending on the thoughts and feelings you have, That's what you're about to open into another world, like another, another world. And so in this, like somebody who was traveling with him, stayed in a world and said, I'm not going to go back in the box with you because I'm going to start a new life here because they're in a new universe. They're in a new world. The universe they want to be in. Right.

And then toward the end of it, it's like this guy who's a great actor, he's the teacher and the warrior. Oh. To where all of these same cats make it to the same world he's in. But just all the different realities that we could be potentially living in. It's an awesome show. It's a good show. Sounds like a little bit of a black mirror, yes I haven't watched black mirrors

Is that where you get to choose like the next scenes? Black mirrors are no no no no It's not interactive but yeah it's episode Each episode is a new So you can just go through the episodes You can start at like 20 or whatever You put whatever one and it's all like different plots Different ideas but like a lot of it is like black male

A lot that I see is like black male different universes Different theories all kind of coming together And it's wild way out of the box And no matter where you start They both have a starting point and what you end on is like an ending to that. Yeah, yeah, it's final. Like there's no next episode of the book that was.

Yeah. Like an hour and a half episodes and you really, your mind goes into God. It's kind of like a movie. Yeah. But it goes back to conspiracy theories. Yeah. Are people truly this original with ideas or are they being fed these ideas

and giving a small little hints to what's really going on in the world? I don't know. People have some. That kind of get you going a little bit? It makes me want to throw back a couple cans, the THC. Yeah, yeah, for real. Have some conversation. This reminds me of Jared Allen when we had Jared Allen on.

Yeah. And we just talk like conspiracy theories. Go back real quick. Go back. What is the time? The timeless enigma. He's the man, bro. Such a good hang.

Yeah. The timeless enigma? Yeah. The Elysium network was catching my brain. Elysium network was that? I don't know. I just saw it on that. Oh, you saw it on the thing?

You'll see that next. You know, Jared Allen is the fucking man, though. Yeah. He is awesome. Big into the curling. He's, I think he's starting a company. Yeah. I'm, we did like a curling event with him like,

a month and a half. Yeah, yeah. So we're, him and him, me, George, I mean, he's like the top of it. But then George and I are kind of like, putting it on social and like kind of doing a bunch of stuff with it. Okay. It's huge. It's sweet sport.

I mean, we're like, we go to the T line over here all the time and just go throw some rocks, man. And you guys, it's hard? Uh, it would be, it would, it's not that bad. I mean, like you, the first. time you go is hard because like you don't quite understand like how hard to release it or how hard to push off but like you go two or three times and then you'll be solid i mean you're an athlete like hand-eye coordination yeah yeah yeah are you guys like creating a little team that's going to like

travel around in the offseason uh maybe i mean george and i kind of go george me rob and um we we kind of go over there and Trent Taylor we all have a little team and go play with the like leagues and they just fit us in every once in a while like Wednesday nights and go over there throw us around I love that it's awesome try to get the T-line I'm pretty sure uh Jerry's some beer Jared's trying to like start a leak yeah he is yeah he's doing all that talked about Bussman being a part of that too I'd love to sit curling get on it that would be fun yeah but it's hard to think about like curling from a TV standpoint like competing with something like pickleball It would be like ate the Ocho, you know?

I mean, like they have the bags and everything. Like, I mean. We would love to commentate the Ocho. Yeah, it would be great. That would be a lot of fun. Bags is starting to pick up, I feel like a popular. I saw Deacon Jones. He was on a squad.

He was hitting some. Dionne Dawkins. Deion Dawkins. He's like, he's like one of the main guys in that, like, Las Vegas League. Yeah. Because he had a stuff about doing that. And I think late last year about coming and doing that,

I think we would get body bag, though. Maybe. Those guys are insane, though. They're insane. Yes. Or they're like blocking the front. That is an actual talent. Yeah.

And then they have the slick and the sticky side. Like it goes, I don't even know that existed until you just said that just now. Really? Yeah, I thought they were both the same thing. No. My brother Cody,

when we do our cornhole tournament during the 4th July, he comes with his own set of bags and nobody else can play with them. No one can touch them? Yeah, nobody else can play with that. That is a very Cody thing you do. Yeah. He's like competing, you know, obviously to win. He did not win this year.

Oh, really? No, you got, if you're the only guy to bring your own bags to party, you lose his brother. You got to throw those bags away. I know, I know. It is over. Is that what you want to do when you're done? I don't know what I want to do. You want to curl?

I mean, that'll be part of it probably. I don't know what I'll do. Have you played a lot of golf, curl? Have you curled since the knee injury? Yeah, yeah, a couple months ago. Yeah? We were out there, yeah. I mean, it really hasn't, like, limited me too much in that fact.

Like, I'm still, like, a normal person. And after like 12 weeks was when I could kind of start getting back into doing stuff. Like I started playing golf because it's my right knee. It's not the left. So like I'm not like torquing on it. But yeah, I mean, it's kind of like a normal person now. How's it been doing? It's been great.

Yeah. I mean, we're running now doing a lot of change of direction stuff. Like it's honestly, I mean, you know how it is. Like the first like when you get injured, like your head goes. into a dark place. Yeah, it's a dark world. It is. And, like, you're not really sure, like, what you're going to do or how you're

going to be after. And then, you know, like, once I got to probably 15 weeks when, like, 12, they start letting me run. And I got to give credit, obviously, to a lot of the PTs up in Minnesota. Like, they've been incredible. Like, super, like, hey, when you're ready is when we'll start stuff. Like, when you're ready to do this. And that's been perfect because it's, like, at 12 weeks, I wasn't on the field, you know?

Like I was starting to run in the pool and then I transitioned to the alter G and then I transitioned to the field. And that was like the transition period. And rather than hammering on it at 12 weeks and going to the field and like just hobbling around, like it was a straight progression. And then like my confidence goes up and everything's been like a smooth transition. So there's been a lot of people helping. And now with Jay Hull, like it's like regular training, you know, like Jay is the best. Yeah, yeah. And he does all this stuff and cutting everything, doing some routes and like top of route stuff and getting in it.

I'm only five and a half months. And Jorge in their PT spot. Jorge Griffin, like Maddie P. or Maddie Ice up in Minnesota, like Tyler up in Minnesota, those guys. It was a smooth transition because like Ella Trash did my surgery, right? Thanks, sir. Yeah, incredible. And then I had a, I was with his PT for like three. three weeks. Then I came down here with Griffin and Jorge, worked with them for like four weeks,

and then I went up to Minnesota, and that was about the time I needed to start running and like lifting and like do the do the stick in and all that stuff, you know, run and stop. And then I was up there for like a couple months. And then now coming down here and like starting to get back into the route tree with Jay and like coming out of the explosion stuff with Josh. And then, you know, all that stuff has been huge. It's been a straight transition that's been incredible. And then I'll go back up to Minnesota on Saturday and then start rolling. How's the, how is the communication as you transitioned from Ella Chaucer's team down to here with Minnesota going back and forth?

Like was everybody pretty much on the same page? Yeah, that's been like the cool part about it is like, you know, the people up in Minnesota, like Tyler and Maddie have been really like good about a, hey, calling Ella Trosh, making sure like I'm doing the right stuff out there. And then when I came down here, like Maddie came down for four or five days. That's awesome. That's my head PT guy in Minnesota, you know, so he came down and hung out, watched what I was doing, did some corrections and stuff, and was like super cool about everything and, you know, said some things that he wanted to put in there and implement. And then he knew where I was at, went up there. Then I went up there and they knew exactly where I was at, like what I was doing.

Who you were with. And who I was with. And then they, like, trusted, like, these people down here because, you know, they're the best of the best. And then going up there, transitioned and then coming down here again, like, start, like, obviously I'm running and doing change the direction and all that stuff. Like, Maddie came down again, like, last week for a couple of days and hung out, watched Jay Holt do his stuff. And he's like, dude, this is perfect for you. Like, this is the best stuff for you. That is huge. I've never heard of an NFL team, train.

or coming, going somewhere for somebody to check on them. Right, because for everybody, like, tuning in or listening to this, it's usually teams are very nervous when they want you to stay with them the entire time. So that way they can oversee your rehab and everything else. So the fact that they're traveling down and getting to know the crews down here, like that is big time. That's huge. It's huge.

And then it, like, it gives them confidence for me to come down here too. You know, like if you ever have anything, like they know who you're working with, they know exactly what you're doing. And they're happy about it. Like I say, I mean, these guys are the best, but you can only tell them that they're the best. But when they come and see it is when they like truly believe, you know? Yeah. So it was incredible.

You talked about that, the dark place. Yeah. There's a lot of different variables when it comes to going a dark place. It inevitably everybody hits it. Yours being the last game of the season. Yeah. Yeah. Because everyone thinks, two more left.

Two more left. Sorry. At the end of the season. Because everyone legit, I don't know if this goes through, you all said, but you think to yourself, if I'm going to get hurt, I want it to be. early in the year so I can be ready for next year. And then once you hit like that week 10 mark, you're like, just be Nixon bruises at this point. We need it.

Did that play into? Yeah, a little bit. How did you think about that? Yeah. Against Detroit. Yeah. Yeah, that was the tough. There's a lot of layers to the Depression.

Yeah, for sure, for sure. I mean, it was one of those things, you know, like it's week 16, I think, was it when it was. And like, you know, I'm knocking on a thousand yards. Like, I'm right there. Like having a good season. Like obviously, you know, we were fighting for a playoff spot at that point. Like we needed to win that game and we were, you know, on the way.

And, you know, then that was probably my second or third target in that game. And I mean, you kind of know how to this. Cover two. Stick nod, like bending in the middle. And then, you know, I turn around, catch the ball. And I look and all I really see is a flash of blue, like underneath me. and it's like uh-oh you know try to stop and i feel it but i kind of thought i just hyper extended it like i didn't think it was like i didn't hear pop i didn't hear anything and then i ran off

a field like just jogged off and not and then they checked it and i was like uh what that small little twist there too yeah and so i got it got aco mcel right and then impressive no meniscus yeah nothing with the meniscus but um fuck you know like Like I said, I mean, I just turned my head around. Went up for the ball. Turned the head around. And I was like, oh, no. And then got off the side.

They were like, yeah, I think it might be ACL. But, you know, they're like, go shower. It's done. Yeah, get the MRI and everything. So you kind of get a little bit of hope. And then you finally get the news that night. And it's like, man, that's, that really sucks. But again, they did a good job because it was like the MCL.

I didn't need to get fixed. Like I had full range of motion after it happened. And then they locked me in a brace for about a week to get the MCL to heal down. And then after that, it was like, all right, we need you to get to 120, you know, degrees to get it to bend. And it was like at 100 after they locked me, you know? So it was like that was kind of a big process is trying to get it in. And elitrosis are like I said, a really good job. I went out there like a week and a half before surgery.

his PT guys were just in there cranking on it to get it to bend and do all that. And yeah, it was definitely a dark place because you're like, man, I don't know what's going to happen. Like, am I going to be the player I was? Like, you hear about it. You hear about the ACL injuries and like everything. It's a scary thing. But, you know, at the point I'm at now, like, I feel really comfortable about being able to come back and be the player I was and even be better. And so that's that's kind of huge for me. But yeah, like I say, you're not walking. You're like Michaela's, my wife is rolling me around like in a wheelchair.

You go from like feeling untouchable to just getting up. If you have to pee in the middle and I'm like, bro, how am I going to go do this? Like can I hold it? No, I can't. And you get to wake up your significant other. And then just going from going through it like playing and having your schedule, having your routine the way it is and how intense and how like precise it is. And then it's like, hey, you're done.

And now you're bedridden for however many days weeks. Yeah. Because with a meniscus, it's like you can't put weight on it for six weeks. Yeah. You're locked too. Locked. And so the only time you take it off is for PT and then you're sleeping with that brace on. Yeah.

Those six weeks, like obviously the scaries are hitting you, the depression scaries. But like, what are you doing to pass the time? You pick up a little video game? Yeah. I played a lot of cod. Yeah, did you? I caught a lot of chill. Yeah, I was kicking it on the video games.

But yeah, I mean, like you say, I mean, it was like Elitrosh. He went in there. He looked at it and when I woke up, he was like, your meniscus looks great. Like, looks perfect. You know, we just had to fix the ACL. The MCL had a stopping point. So we were good there. He's like, he should be good.

So, like, that was the best part. Like you say, I was, I was nervous that I was going to get locked in the brace and I was going to be screwed. But, like, right away, they're bending it. They're doing everything. trying to get the range of motion back i'm on a bike like so in about two weeks like it was it was braces on but i'm walking you know and then three weeks brace was off and now i'm walking and so it was kind of like a smooth transition after that but i yeah like i said i couldn't imagine

like being locked in the brace for yeah six weeks they give you that little machine where you like put your foot in it like moves it yeah i dreaded it every day really oh my gosh dude i liked it i didn't it's not that i liked it but like my brain would be like you're getting better just by laying 100% oh yeah when it was like 10 degrees every day they told me 10 degrees every day so like I started at like 60 or 70 degrees yeah and it's easy and then easy and then you go 80 and then you go 90 and then like you know six days in you're at like 120 and I'm like this is like I might really be Wolverine oh yeah I'm super human like the first two suck and then you start to get warmed up and you're like all right I can do this for however long they want to

How hard has it been to stay patient? Because obviously, as athletes, we all place like expectations on ourselves to get back by a certain timeline. How hard has it been for you to like stay patient throughout the process and kind of trust what everybody else is telling you? Like going into training camp, I'm sure again, in your mind you have some time that you would like to be back or outdo those expectations. 100%. You know, I think they have done a really good job by like being like, hey, like, I'm not going to let you do this. You know, because I'm, I told them right at the beginning when I did it. And after I got the surgery, I was like, you're going to have to stop me because, like,

I'm a person that likes to push the limits and like I want to do things and I'll do it. And I'll say it doesn't really bother me, even though it probably did a little bit. And so they're, they've been really good about being like, hey, you can't do this, you know? And like, now I'm at the point where I can almost do everything. I mean, the only thing right now that's kind of limiting me is I can't run 15 yards. and then cut right off of it. Like that's just still dangerous. I could probably do it.

But like they're like, like I said, I'm only five and a half months out. So I got time, you know. It'll be like, I think these guys are really smart about the timeline, you know, because like biology is biology and you come back seven months. There's like a 25% risk of injury. Eight months, like 15. You come back after nine. It's like less than five, you know.

So it's like I think they're going to be really. smart with how they do it and how they transition and and they have a lot of science and a lot of like you know measurements where they can measure my left to my right now and so that's huge but yeah i mean it like i'm i'm fortunate enough that i'm in the time i am with with medicine and like um like how everything is and pt and the progression of everything because if this happened you know 10 or 15 years ago, you know, you talk to guys and they're like, yeah, my knee's still screwed up. But like, I'm like I said, I'm only at five and a half and it's starting to feel like, like it was again. You don't have any of that, no pain, nothing? I haven't really had the pain. I mean, like,

yeah, like, I'll do a little shockwave if I get something, but then it's gone. So I haven't really had the like crazy pain in it. So it's been huge. But yeah, I mean, I like I said, I've been, I've been kind of fortunate enough because it's kind of been like a smooth progression. And I haven't had a day where like obviously knock on wood, but like I haven't had a day where I'm like, oh shit, this is worse today than it was yesterday. Like I've been a smooth progression up and that's been huge. It's awesome to have a doctor like Elytrosh who has like this like almost like too confident, like cocky kind of attitude about him.

He brags about the scar. Yeah. But the poison which he comes, unless he floats. into the room and the way he speaks to you're like this is the guy I definitely want doing my surgery. Then his team as well, I thought when I would spend a couple weeks there, I thought they were absolutely incredible. Amazing. Unreal, dude.

And it was great too because like, you know, I, again, I was at 120 and then I went, I went in for surgery, like three days or four day. It might have been five days before I actually had it. Like I went in the day before, like that day was going to have surgery. They shaved my leg. They like give me everything. They put me on, hooked me up to an IV. Elitrosh comes in and he's like, he bends my knee.

He's like, nope, not there yet. I go home. What do you say not there yet for? Like, because I wasn't at 120. Like, I was at like 115 or 118. He's like, nope, not there yet. So I was like, oh, okay. So he sent me home.

And then I went to the PT like an hour later. They were cranking on it. And then I got to 120 that day. And then five days later, I was at like 130. You know? So he was like, good thing we waited. And then five days later, I went and got it. And he's like, this is going to be perfect.

Like, you don't have to worry about anything. He's like, the surgery went absolutely incredible. Like, couldn't have gone any better. You know, and I'm like, all right, let's go. There's words that make you feel amazing. Yeah. The only thing that would make you feel any bit better is what will. Buying some tickets to game time.

Did you know that you can get tickets to any baseball game, any concert that you'd like to be at? That's right. Any game. Any game. Any concert. Yes. And thanks to Game Time, the official ticketing partner of Barstil Sports, you shouldn't have to worry when you buy your tickets to your next big event.

Game Time is the fast and easy way to buy tickets to all the sports, music, comedy, and theater events near you. They have, get this, TJ, flash deals for sudden discount, zone deals for when you're feeling flexible and their lowest price guarantee, which means that if you can find the same seats for less, anywhere else, game time will credit you not the full price, but a 100, 10% difference. Game Time is the best place for last minute seats with up to 60% percent. off your favorite events.

What are you waiting for, TJ? Go buy those tickets that you've been waiting to, to the post Malone concert that's coming up in October. I'm going. Take the guesswork out of buying tickets with GameTime. Download the GameTime app, create an account, and use code Bustin for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply.

Download the GameTime app today. Last minute tickets, lowest price is guaranteed. And with that... Great job. I was going to pay that back into it. Did you have something? Yeah, I was going to say, and with that, TJ, obviously, the boys, we don't play anymore.

We're a little washed up. but we are, as you know with Bustle with the boys, we got to be a voice of the people. So let's just say we're in the different hobbies. Let's call it fantasy football. Would you advise us to put you on our draft board? Are we looking waiver wire, let's say, London game week five, week six? I don't know. You'll have to call it Roger.

I don't know if I'll get in trouble for any inside information. Fair enough. What a way to try. Yeah, yeah. Like, hey, should we put you on the day one board and we're all at Taylor's house drafting for fantasy football? Yes. Or we look in, hey,

my name better be up there. Your name's going to be up there. Just how far down the list is it on there? Yeah, I think that's for you to decide. Fair enough. Late round guy, late round guy still drafted. Got to. Because you see the article's coming out.

They say you're what, return week five? Week six. And you guys are playing in London. Have you ever played in London before? I haven't, no. There's that. That'd be a little bit of excitement there.

Yeah, I'm excited to go. Either excitement or, hey, thank God, I might not have to go to London. Yeah, because can I have to go to London. Yeah, because can I have to you something? It sucks. It sucks.

It sucks. Yeah. I'm sure the time changes insane. It depends how you do it. You guys are... I think we're doing the three-day thing. Yeah.

You're right. We're central. You're probably going to go out, flather on Thursday back after the game. I think so. That is the best way to do it. As far as like, you just shock the body because you're supposed to sleep all the way there.

And on the way back, you stay up all night. Really? Which is a nice little deal because you basically land back in Minnesota. You land back in Minnesota like, I think in the morning or at night or something like that. It pivoted in a way where you can go to sleep when you land back in the United States. Or you can go to sleep when you land back. Yeah, you might on the way there you throw yourself a little ambient in, knockout for about seven hours.

And then it's hit the ground run and you got to make special things. Does that work? I've never tried it. Ambien? Yeah, it works. It's the same thing. It does it. Yeah, I did it for our first London game from Washington.

Yeah, I think it got me just goes just as far. It doesn't work like, it doesn't work that well because you're just, you're all fucked up anyway. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like before you travel on the plane, you have the rookies or the guys go get whatever it is, let's say pop bellies. And you're eating that as your meal before you get on the plane. You're trying to fall asleep.

You can't necessarily fall asleep because it's truly right after practice. Yeah. And then when you got to make the meetings right when you get there, like it's abysmal. Now the positive is, coach is usually pretty good and you only do like a helmet's only practice, like a walkthrough style just to get. And let's just get up and just put your focus into this voice. You know this sucks. Right.

And the flight home. The food there's not that fucking good. It's ass, dude. Brutal. It's fucking ass. Brutal. Look at that photo. You got fish and chips right there.

That's fish. That's all you'll get. They're eggs over there. Like the hotel, the hotels that I've been at over there. It's like when they cater the food in the morning or make the food in the morning, the eggs taste different. It's just not that fucking good. Bro, that's, because of. It's like the soggy eggs that you get at most hotel.

Kind of. The soupy eggs. Dude. Why do we do that? Just cook it all the worst. They're the worst. They'll do it. They'll do, they'll like have those little eggs sitting out.

I don't, what do you even call those? They'll, like, hard-boiled kind of. That's a soft-boiled egg. That's a poached egg. That's a poached egg in the shell. No, bro, poachers don't have the shell on it, do they? The bacon's real, the bacon's real thin, real thin and floppy, not very appetizing. Not a lot of ass behind them.

Yeah. But a, uh, London is where 4.5 started by Corey 11. We get there. On the way there, right. They give us sandwiches. And Corey goes, not a whole lot of ass behind this. And we're like, oh, wait it for us, Corey. And he literally just,

described it and then just said 4.5 and that's truly how 4.5 was established. You don't even know, you know, you know, a lot of people, I know you've seen this, but a lot of people think it's Shane's been. I know because of the, something's burning. That is truly, that's actually Corey Levin. Yeah. I was going to give us the credit, but that's Corey Levin's joke. That is Corey Levin's joke.

That is Corey Levin's joke. But we never do 4.5 out of blah. We just give a description. And at the end say 4.5, and the whole rating system is based on the description you get. Right. So if I were to say, loose. It could be out of 10 or out of five. Could be the best 4.5 you've ever heard or the worst 4.5.

Well, we know in life nothing's perfect. That's why it's always a 4.5. Oh. Even it's out of 4.6. That's wisdom right there. That is. I like that. Always, always a little piece to get better.

Yeah, we did our wedding in Hawaii like three weeks ago. Hey, congratulations on that, bro. Thank you. I appreciate it. Congratulations on that. That time change coming back kicked my ass. Yeah, that is five hours like behind. Then I had to do a photo shoot the next day.

sucked. Oh, a photo shoot for the, yeah. Of the wife. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah. Nike. Yeah, yeah. Like something cool.

Yeah. Yeah. Something cool. Yeah. Unreal. Yeah. How is your, how was your game in the proposal? Uh, it was good.

It was super chill. Like, we're, we're kind of like, uh, we're, we're two people that are small town people, obviously. And it's not like a big ordeal, you know, like we're, what you do? Tell us about your. Well, she's a big horse person. So, like, we did it at her mom. Her mom's got some land out in eastern Tennessee.

And, yeah, there you go. She got some land out in eastern Tennessee. So we did a little horseback ride. And then after, we were out in the middle of the field or whatever. And I got down and she got down. And we hung out for a second. And then it passed. You all love just dudes, bro.

Such a dude. Such a dude story. we're talking about his feelings. You know, we were in the fields. And I asked her, bro, talk about how nervous you were too asked. Oh, insane. Everybody, once they get the ring. I was not nervous.

Even like on the, on the, like, horse ride, it wasn't more nervous at all. And then when we got on our feet on the ground, I was like, shaking. Yes, bro. It is so scary. Even when you make the decision, you're like, this is going to be the person. Oh, yeah. And you feel so good about it once the ring, like, it's in your hand, you're legit like, oh my God, what am I doing?

It's the scariest thing ever. Yeah, it is. How did you ask? Do you have a nice little, do you write a little something out? Or did you say, hey, listen, here's the deal. Yeah, I don't know. Honestly, I kind of blocked out. So she could tell you a little better.

I mean, she says I just said, I love you, right? What you married me? I don't know. Was she crying? Yeah. Were you crying? Yeah. No, I wasn't then.

But at the wedding, I had some tears coming out. Let's go, man. Did you guys do the whole, like, don't see each other the day of the wedding thing? Yeah, no, we didn't. She didn't sleep in like in the same room with me the night before. Traditional cats. I like that. Traditional. Going to heaven for sure. Yeah, that's the plan, man. Thanks. Thank the Lord of both. No doubt. But, no, it's, it's been fun. Yeah, it was an incredible experience. We were out there for a week with just both of our families and a couple like real close friends and it's 30 people and

did boat rides like play golf, chilled out. That was good. Super intimate. That's a little deal, man. Hawaii is a beautiful. Beautiful destination. Did Neil gift you some, uh, uh, Christau piece for the wedding ring to sit on? No, he, so Neil got us meat from, like as a wedding gift. Yeah, like, hell yeah. Yeah, Wagyu beef, sorry.

And sent it to our house. From where? Do you know where? I don't remember where he sent it from, but it's incredible. Like, dude, he was on the phone for like an hour one day. I think JP, you were in the car. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Diamond J. Wagoo from freaking Nebraska. It was. Yeah.

Because he like, you know, he just probes you on Costco and fucking, you know, yoga. Yeah, but this has nothing on Costco. He's like, this is the best. Yeah. He can't go anywhere. Neil is they to Costco? No, he loves Costco. He gets his, you get the king crab legs.

That's what he just talks about Costco. You'd be hard fought to find a person that doesn't enjoy Costco. Yeah. He's big on Costco. I love Costco. You brought it that you and your wife are both from like small towns. Yeah. How much of a culture shock was it for you when you got in the NFL?

fell all this money people wearing jewelry driving rolls royces around coming from a small town yeah i try not to get caught up in that fact but yeah it was nuts i mean when you go and like obviously from a small town you know like who you're talking to you know but then we go to a big city and they know you know you don't know them it's a little weird you know like yeah uh hey dj however you know and you're like hey man like what's going on like how are you what's your name you know that kind of thing it's stuck in the awkward like am i supposed to know this guy yeah like yeah that's kind of what it was and no but like the whole rolls roy's like all that kind of like i've never got to i've never been like a intangible person like i don't need certain things to feel you know successful i guess

did you ever felt like kind of like you should maybe get something because you're in the NFL did you ever feel like you see all the people you see these 10 year vets with all these things you know he's got and part of you yeah no question But like, there is that small town cat in you that's like, I'm always going to be a small town cat. I'm always going to be a Bontan Missouri, a Cape Creek, Arizona dude. And then you get to the league and you see these guys rocking, you know, Mazuradis and that. You're like, maybe I should get something for myself. And there's always that like, you got to treat yourself.

You got to fight. But there's always like a little bit of a deal where you're like, should I be doing this though? Oh, 100%. You know, I get that a lot. Yeah. Like a little demon on their shoulder and then the one like chirping my ear on the lens. Yeah. And then you get something nice.

You're like, I wonder what my boys would say back home. Oh, 100%. You're driving this now? You've changed. You've changed. Have I changed? That's the worst. Yes.

That really gets you in your head. It really does, ma'am. Yeah. Off to that what has been your biggest purchase, because you signed a nice little hefty deal, not too long ago. Biggest purchase so far. Yeah, like something that you've been like, all right, I'm going to splurice now with myself. Um, I got some land.

I got some land. You got some land. We're at? Uh, I got some land in Iowa. Uh, 150 acres. Let's go. I feel like Brandon Sheriff did the same exact thing. Yeah, I mean, well, I'm looking for some down here, but it's insane.

You got 150 acres in Iowa? Okay, after you spent that $47, what'd you go and get? That is a one. Oh, that's crazy. Oh, great deal. $1,000 bucks in acre. How much that cost, $150,000? $300,000.

No, come on. You're right. Way less. What is it? What? Dude, people love hunting in Iowa. Like, it's straight hunting land. So, like.

But what's the real estate out there, like a per acre? Because in Missouri, like it is here. In Missouri, it was like one to five thousand. It's probably like 10, 8 to 10. Okay. And where I was looking, because it's like, like I said, it's like the best hunting land that you can get, you know.

So you got some stands out there. You got a camp set up. Some stands, some cams. Like, I mean, I think the state record, at least don't quote me on this, but this is what I was told. The state record, yeah, of course. The state record was probably like 15 or 20 miles away from my,

land that was a buck so yeah dude hunting is such a thing that I want to be into so bad it's fun I want to be that guy yeah you just aren't no I just I just I don't think I've had enough access that we went and did a I was gonna say you kind of just we did a meter thing I gotta get you on that trip too yeah yeah but like I have a bunch of boys that always like you should come hunting with me you should and I just don't and I should but when I when I do go I think to myself oh it'd be great to do this more but But then I get by myself again. I'm like, where do I fucking start?

Yeah. I can buy the gun, but after that, it's like, I'm just going to walk around. And it goes like, oh, you're supposed to sit here for a war? Yeah. Oh, bro. Yeah. You can go down a rabbit hole for sure. There's just a crazy world.

I just think I'm so far behind now. It's hard for me getting to it because you get around the meat eater guys like Steve and them and they're just encyclopedias when it comes to hunting this, that and the other of all the things you can do. And it's like, man, do I really want to dive into this world. And I don't know all that. Like, I'm not on that level. Yeah, but you could probably make a duck call.

Yeah, I can do that. You can make a fire. I can call on a turkey. Yeah, like I can do all that. But I mean, I don't know a lot of that stuff. Like I'd love to go hunting in Alaska. Like they talk about like elk hunting, moose hunting, bear grizzly. I think bears the move.

That'd be so sick. There was a buddy of mine that was like he was falling this bear for a long time and like five or six miles and they were tracking it. And then the bear, they turned around and the bear was tracking that. Oh shit. And so like... A Mexican standoff. Yeah. Like that's scary.

Like, you'd have to have a guide for that. But yeah. I think that would be sick. Like this is how green I am. Like I was in Canada camping with my family for 12 out of 14 days. And legit every morning I woke up. I was kind of nervous. I want my wife to come with me outside.

I said there'd be like bears and cougars everywhere. Didn't see either. Yeah. But I just think to myself, these motherfuckers are out here. Right. Oh, 100%. They're out there doing their thing. Yeah.

My brother's like big into. Like going to Colorado and like camping. He's got a Jeep that's like all set up. He's got a rooftop tent, all that. And he'll go out and he's like lights a campfire. And then he finds like a little wooded area. And he's got his dog. But his dog will like just growl into the woods like around him.

And like he'll hear like cracking and stuff. And he's just like can't think about it. You know, you can't think about it. But like he's also got a, you know, a gun on his hip and everything. But like that's that's scary. Yeah. Being out there by yourself, no one around anywhere. In Canada, it's like tough to get a gun.

They don't really do the whole gun thing up there. Really? So you're going to do hand-to-hand combat with a bear? Like that is, just have a little pocket knife. That's crazy. I would feel so much safer I've had like a, give me even a 22. Something I can just crack off. Hey, hey, I get, you know.

Give me a pellet gun. Just get, yeah, something, man. But it is kind of scary. And it's so funny seeing my wife and her mom. And they're just like, yeah, it would be fine. It's fine. And I'm thinking myself, bro, it's not. because I'm the only

I'm the only dude here. We are not fine. We're not fine. Because I'm thinking if something does happen, I've got to be the one to sacrifice myself. The whole women and children

first thing, the Titanic. I'm the only guy out there. And they're saying it's going to be fine. It's like, yeah, because I have to die. Right. You know,

I'm the first sacrificial land. Yeah, and I'm just, I don't know if I'm mad enough to do it, brother. Like a pack of wolves would be the scariest. Ah, see, I don't think so,

man. What do you have? Like a pack of wolves? Like, you're talking about, wolves would be That'd be insane crippling That's what I mean

Like I would rather See a grizzly Than a pack of wolves I don't know Dude seeing Yo you would piss down your leg Piss down your leg If you were to pack

of wolves out there Yeah but one dog's gone You see a bunch of wolves No no no sorry You see a bunch of wolves It's like all right Like you know shit's not gonna go your way But there's a

In my mind You're gonna take one of those fuckers out first Okay Or at least get a couple punches You see a big Like there's a bear There's a video I just saw of a bear

like rummaging through and photos gonna take of it and just up I mean that's pretty if you got something to say grab the mic man well and then they like and by the way if it is one wolf like you like your chances right yeah that's different yeah I like my change but you're talking you're talking a pack of wolves like they're chirping

from each angle like you're like yeah like what which one's coming at me first part of me is like if I just see one I'm like I'll start fighting this one then eventually I'm gonna get took but like you see a bit like you see that motherfucker right there just looking at you that is so much scary bears to me I'd be scary And people up in Canada

People up in Canada are like Oh you don't have to worry about bears You got about cougars Because you don't see them Until they got you I'm thinking oh my God JP you had something Look at this dude pulled a pistol out

Yeah of course You filled in You checked yourself We were having an argument About would you rather Fight a giraffe or a wolf One-on-one I'd fight a wolf

A giraffe or a wolf? Yeah A giraffe is like stomping on you I don't know. Everybody was unanimous except for JP. What? Look at this one-on-one. Look at that thing.

I don't think they're getting as low as you are, though. That's what I'm saying. But you're getting stomped off by a... I was at the Nashville Zoo and I was feeding like lettuce. Exactly. That other one of the fuck came out. His face is here and then he stuck his tongue. Their tongues are this long.

They got that little confidence. They got that little bit more quick, well. That boy can definitely touch his lettuce. Yeah. And they got them. They got the horns on top They just put that thing on you Wolves to me

I was just a, that's a dog dude You know, you all over the rings I'm fucking a wolf up They're bigger than a dog I know they're like 145 pounds But I'm telling you bro Yeah I mean there's a pack of wolf

Taking a yeah Taitonka I mean we've all seen the gray right I have not seen the gray But I've seen this scene Where he's like Breaking the bottles Taping his hands

And he sees the wolves I've seen that scene on On Instagram which is like Yeah that's crazy See that's a whole bunch of boys Working together Let J.P. get some words in. Oh, no.

Have you seen Lord of the Rings? Yeah. No, when I was like I was scared. Legless and them are taken down mammoths. Who? And a mammoth would be a whole lot tougher to take down and then a giraffe. This is a fictional movie. This is a fictional situation.

Bro. A giraffe is fucking, first off, to get to any main artery, you got to climb up a damn tree to get that thing. They're not even killers. Who? Giraffes. They'll kill your ass. question. We'll see. If you're a giraffe out there, listen to the show.

This is the clip. This is the clip we're talking about that's realistic. You are a crazy person. The most insane shit ever. Bro, what are you talking about? Just this dude climbing up a 30-story elephant. Just this dude. It's Orlando Bloom, bro. Yeah. Who's he playing? Legless.

I went and saw the first Lord of the Rings with my grandmother when I was like 11 years old. And the one with the The guy, one of the main dudes is like hiding behind the tree and these dudes on black horses are chasing him. I looked at my grandma. I was like, we got to get out of here. It was too scary for me. You're Gimley.

I don't know. I'm going to take that as an insult, I guess. Don't laugh like that, man. You can't laugh at jokes I don't know. But yeah, you got to take down a wolf, man. A singular wolf, that's not. A singular wolf for sure. I mean, we're going to lose to a single wolf,

but we have better chances against a wolf. Easier death against a giraffe. It stops you, you're done. Wolf might tear your arm apart, might get your foot. Yeah. And you just suffer. Wait a minute. You think you're taking down an alpha wolf?

I think I'm taking down like a mother wolf. No. Like an old wolf or a baby wolf. Oh yeah. An older one. Like one that's been in the block for a minute, dude. Just laying there. You know what you can do, dude, with wolves?

Wolves have great hair. And you can too with keeps. Bless of the Boys of the Boys is sponsored by Keeps. keeps helps men reclaim their identity if your hair has always been a part of who you are and it's something you want to keep around keeps can help hair or no hair hair or no hair we think you should be the one to decide keep don't scroll please keep the look you are proud to see in the me with a full suite of products designed to regrow hair maintain your hair line or help you cover bald spots keeps helps you find the exact product suited for your hair loss in the

Keeps offers both of the FDA approved hair loss treatment options as well as two in one treatment that combines both treatments. Call to action, call to action, call to action, call to action. Thanks to Keeps for sponsoring this podcast. Yeah, thank you for that, guys. Hair loss stops with Keeps for a special offer to get started. Go to keeps.com forward slash bussen. That's K-E-E-P-S dot com slash Bustin, B-S-S-I-N. Results may vary.

not offered in every state, medications prescribed only if clinically appropriate, consultation required. Maybe I'll do the rest of them for this episode. No, dude, no. Hey, I will say something. I need to work through it. Can I say, can I admit it? Can I admit something?

Yeah. I've started the keeps process. Good, dude. On what? My corners. Do you see the light corners that are happening? Okay. Yeah.

You see them? I see them a little bit, yeah. I've started like putting the dripper. You got a nice little V. The dripper on it. Yeah, yeah. Nice little. I think at this stage of the game for like hair loss,

for hair loss or like retrieving your hair, it's no longer a taboo deal. Like you play in the NFL for nine years. You do it. You're right. I shouldn't be embarrassed. No. I started doing keeps.

I started doing keeps. Ryan or lecker, I was on the phone with somebody that we know I will not say on this on this show right now who was like, dude, I'm going to do. I'm going to get hair transplants. I was like, you should just run that and just do it and be proud of it.

Yeah. Yeah. I think the problem is though, I don't know which parts of my head I'm going to, parts of my hair I'm going to lose. So I feel like if I fix like the corners right now, what if something came later on? Go back. You just go back. It's going to be the sooner you do it, the less dramatic, the change is going to be all of it.

Yeah. Because they just take the little back part. They take this part right here and they just put it up here. And you can do 20,000. Let's see you in a couple months from now. I think Keeps is going to get me right. I think you should go to Turkey. After Keeps.

I mean, Keeps is going to save your ass, but. What's in Turkey? That's where, like, people go to your hair transplant. plants. Oh, really? Yeah, they actually have a crazy medical system up there, but it's pretty nuts. I've been a little wormhole with those things. But there's like a bunch of videos of people flying back from Turkey and they all got like the coldest sack with the bandages on top because that's like it's like cheap and like well done there. That's wild. Get in, get off it out. Dude, Kurt got his hair done and I don't think it's like a known thing. Oh, well, here,

now you know. Yeah, well, I think I've I think I've said it a couple times on the pod before. Let's hope for his sake. Yeah. I get to see him like. the day after his face was all puffy and so on i was trying to get a photo he wouldn't let me take a photo it's like you with your little jiblet teeth i can't get that photo i know i showed you though you showed me but i want the photo i know you do i would never post it unless yeah unless he deserved it yeah he did he said he showed me a little photo of him because he had that you had the temps or before they put the temps on i put the yeah they shaved it down and then i got the temps so i was at your wedding with the attempts in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then a couple weeks later, they get the, you know, the moldings and

everything else to put in there. So do you have all of them or is it just just the top, just the top eight? Because they're like based on the way I talk and smile and everything else, you only see my top ones. Okay. Yeah. I would show my bottom ones, but they're a little off tone and a little off color. Yeah, but yeah. They gave me some whitening to do to match it and I just never got to it. Never got to it. Busy schedule. Busy skisky. Yeah, busy. I got the white out here that you got out here. Yeah, speaking up, you get TSA pre-check yet. J. J. P. Oh, Bro, bro. You didn't say pre?

Oh, yeah. I know. We were in Vegas and I was essentially lecturing JP on you need to get it. And he's like, I'm going to do it on Monday. That was two weeks ago. That was two Mondays. Today is Monday though. Today is Monday.

But you're not going to go to do the fingerprints. No, you challenge yourself. You go, I got to do this before. Yeah. It was like before. You said a, like you put in a for it, right? And then you have to make another schedule for it to go get your fingerprints. You fill it out online.

You fill it out online. and then you just go to the staples, which from this spot right here, there's a staples four minutes away. And you just pay $75 and they like, did you do your fingerprints? I don't think so. They got you, bro. That's global entry. Oh, I had to do my fingerprints. My fingerprints are out there.

I had criminal record. All of them boys are on there. Oh, no. And they gave you pre-check with criminals? I mean, they got put down to misdemeanors, you know. I worked it all out. Hired a good team. Yeah.

Shout out, Michigan. Yeah, but you're not going to do that today because CFB 25 comes out in about an hour. No, bro. What time we had, it's 2 o'clock on a Monday. The game releases if you got the deluxe edition, which we did, you can start playing college football. One hour, one hour from now. Are you as fired up for that as it seems like everybody is? Yeah, but I don't have.

No, you're not. No, I mean, I'm not like as fired up as everybody else is. But like, I got my, I don't have my PlayStation down here. It's up in Minnesota. You know the S-5 guy? Yeah. You know what I think it is? Are you an Xbox guy?

Mm-hmm. You know the problem is he's young So your whole time in college You were not in the game I bet he was playing NCAA 14 though Yeah I was Yeah there's something different about CJ Fedorowitz

Something about being in the game The 14 Yeah I'm so stoked for it Do you know I was overall Uh no Do you? 84

I mean that defense That's what Nebraska is too Stop it Hey you like high ratio You on your birthday Yeah get out of here What happened? I saw that.

I was like, I'm not even going to reply. He tweeted and goes, it was his birthday. He's like, I appreciate everybody for all the birthday wishes. I'm blessed or very blessed

or whatever it is. And I said, you're not blessed. You went to Iowa. And he just put him into oblivion on his birthday. I was like, you got him, man.

That's crazy. You got them. Yeah. Yeah, I think this game's going to end a lot of people's relationships and careers. I heard the field goal thing is hard.

Yes. I haven't seen them. It goes like super fast that the meter does. Does it really? Yeah. I mean, it should be difficult if you're trying to kick a game winning field goal. See, this is work. Dude.

I know you want the game to be a video. You want it to be a video game. Yeah, I think. I mean, but college kickers are worse, right, in the NFL. So it should be harder. And not only that, but we're talking like a route tree. If you want to give a receiver a hot route, they have 12 different routes that they can run. So you can, like, build your own system like on the fly.

Oh, that's good. And protection. Rattle through the protections again. There you go. You can gap out. You can slide one way and man the other way. You can go 5-0, which is 5-on-5 protection. I'm sure you can bring in a tight end and go like a Y-6, Y-7.

You can simply ID the mic. H-2-H-3, which is all great, and that's awesome. Yeah. But I'm... That's a lot of controls. When I look at like NCAA 14, how simple the game is as far as like you got your juke moves. You can do X, Y, Z. If you press harder, it's more of a bullet pass.

If you tap it, it kind of arcs it over. And then you go to Madden, it just seems like they put so much realism into it that it kind of takes away the enjoyment of playing the game. And I am more of a pessimistic when it comes to... You're more of a casual. You're more of a Joe. Separates the pros and Joe's. Yeah.

I like the casual stuff. No, I'm with you, though, because I don't play the game as much as I probably could or what, like should. Yeah, but you play real life, though. Yeah. I don't want to know, I have to learn all the controls every time I play. I can't wait. It should be easy.

It's going to be fun to see. just I couldn't have come in a better time. Are you a dynasty in with Nebraska or what? Oh yeah. Come on now. That would be honestly, probably the best team to do a dynasty with. I'm clearly biased. I'm clearly biased.

But I'm talking, I'm talking like the parameters of what would be a good, a good team to start dynasty. What are the parameters? For me, it's like you got, we got Raela, so you got good, a good young quarterback who's like fresh to start a good dynasty? Somebody who's not like above 90. You want a team that you can build up to be like a five-star program. I think Nebraska's sitting around a three or a three and a half star.

That's tough because they were five in 2014. They were, they were. A lot of the streamers are saying like Nebraska is like the best team to do with because of exactly what you're saying. Like they're in the Big Ten, they have Ryola. They have like some good players and like you can bring it. You can bring like Nebraska back to start. And when you're playing.

That guy really wants to keep his job. When you're doing recruiting, I'm sure there'll be challenges. I'm sure there'll be challenges trying to recruit guys to your school since you're not like a premier school. Let's just do it as a tier talk then. Okay. Best dynasties. My tier one is Nebraska.

Okay. Are you aware of tier talk? Yes. All right. We start at three. Go to one, obviously. You can give out of mentions you can want. But we're going to do best dynasties.

Best teams have started dynasty with on C. Do you do them all at once? Or do we do three and then? Snake draft style. That's what we do with kiddle in the stadiums. We could do that again if we want. So once one gets drafted, it's off the board? It's off the board.

Okay. So we'll go. You want to do that? I like that. You like it now. So we started tier one then pretty much because you're doing your first, you're doing your first pick. All right. Honors.

Do you do? Yeah. I'm doing a Hawks, obviously. God, you should have took Nebraska. I know. I thought he was going to. I was trying to serve him off. I know.

The Hawks would be a good one too because it's a day. Yeah, you got yes. And then you can, if you're going to get players, you can get a bunch of on offense too. So Phil Parker really in the defense, though. But that's like Iowa football, man. Never score over 20. They don't have to. Play good, hard-nosed defense.

You guys never have to. What you mean? The defense is so good. They're keeping them under 20 every time. Those last two games you guys played, though. But also, didn't the O.C. Get fired last year? Yes.

Yeah, Brian, yeah. That's a positive, right? Well, I mean, yeah. Was he your O.C.? Yeah. Okay, so I know you're not going to. So that was a little different. But they had a lot of energy.

You like scoring 10 points a game. We didn't score 10 points game. We scored a lot more. Oh, come on now. I don't know how many. Look it up. What's Michigan's rating in the game? 2017, 2018.

It should be 94, I think it was. I mean, I would need some more offense. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, but they're a pro-style offense. I mean, in college, college is a little, like, that's a little different, right? Because everybody's doing spread now. But. They're adapting with the times.

Yeah, I mean, but it's a, I mean, they have more people go to the league because of it. Well, tight ends. You guys have tight ends. Well, yeah, but some old lines, yeah. You have tight ends, old linemen, and a white. defensive players. Oh yeah, bro. Yeah. How about that? Cooper DeGine. That's got to be the proudest moment for you.

What? You guys produced the first white DB since like 1800s. Yeah. Yeah, no, that is wild. I mean, DeGine's insane though. Like, if you go back and like watch him playing basketball and stuff too, like he's just a freak athlete. Taylor, I could totally be reading this wrong, but Michigan is not listed in the top 25 on CFB 25. on CFB 25. That's incorrect.

It's got to be. It's got to be because... Those are offensive power rankings. When they go... Those are offensive. Okay. No bad ideas. No bad ideas.

Because I do think they're not... They're definitely not below an 83 overall as a team. Yeah. We're, I think, ranked in the top 10... You guys lost... Going into the season. You guys lost a lot of offensive power. Yeah.

But, you know... Good lineback. You guys lost a good linebacker. Right. Good boy. We got JJ now I know dude I want to talk about that too

And it sucks you brought that up just now Because we're in your talk So remind me to talk about that Because you go with a lot of good quarterbacks Yeah And just Footnote that Nebraska with my first pick

What are they? 88 Slept on I love it I love that All right I'm going to Nebraska For all things we talked about You got a young freshman quarterback

Who's an 80 overall He's going to be trending upward very fast You're talking middle of the pack in offense and defense. I think they're like an 84 across the board. 84 overall, 84 offense, 84 defense. There are three and a half star program on CFB 25. You got an opportunity to build them back up to what they were back in the 90s.

Some also say the Pellini era. I'm going to go with Nebraska. I think a great foundation to build. It makes it recruiting a little challenging, which I think will be very fun. So Nebraska, my first overall pick. Yeah. Based on the parameters I've just been told that that's a good pick. And I wasn't going to pick Michigan because I thought they would be rated higher.

I thought they'd be in that upper echelon, like in the 90s. But I'm going to, you know what? I'm not going to take Michigan. I'm going to leave Michigan off the table. I'm going to pick a team like... Ohio State. No. I actually hate that I'm picking this, but it might be the best pick.

And that's South Carolina. If you think about it, I mean, you got that cat. You were just telling me about who has. the acceleration of speed of 99. But you've also got... What's his name? Nick Harbor. Nick Harbor.

You've got a program that is in a prestigious conference that has been middle to lower pack and you want to bring that prestige back or to a program that hasn't had a whole lot of success and kind of run a conference that is arguably the best. We all know a second best conference, but arguably the best conference, I think the Gamecox is a good pick. That's my pick. And if you throw it on, if you throw it on Heisman mode and like take your licks and try to get like say seven eight win season like you have some challenges that will make that dynasty

fun yeah which i've never really done before that's a good pick they were they were they were that's who i wanted for my second that's what i wanted for my second and i wanted to leave michigan out of it because michigan is a tough dynasty pick just because they won the national championship last year yeah they've lost a lot of guys but they are top dogs they're top dogs in the food chain some say it's not a good look not to grab your guys yeah it could be not a good look to grab my team but at the end of the day like we're playing make believe right now I'm more care about what's going to happen during the season we'll find out September 7th when Michigan takes on the longhorns

that's going to be a great game I know but we're we're not going to fucking be there because you Colorado Nebraska like that's a bigger game it's not come on well I'm telling you and everyone in here is probably going to agree with me that that is not a bigger I'm going because I fucking I I love you bro and I know that game means so much to you but I'm pretty sure we'd like to see the Longhorns who were in the college football playoff last year

versus the reigning national champions in Ann Arbor, Michigan. I'm pretty sure we'd rather have that. What atmosphere would you guys rather be at? Look at him. Don't say his. You guys know my name. Well, I have the mic. Say it loud.

I think if a couple things go a different direction for Nebraska last year, they could have won some games, they could have made some noise and made the playoff, making this year's game a little bit. more interesting. But slash I want my job.

There it is. Michigan versus Texas is the game. That's the game. Without a doubt. Okay. Mitch? I hate that we have to do this right now.

Yeah, I mean Michigan, Texas is where you got to go. I need more built to board material for my season. Michigan, Texas, for sure. Garrett, I think if the game was in Austin, I would go to that one.

But I like the Memorial Game Day atmosphere better You like how quiet it is? Quiet, hey, you know week two. I mean, I know how quiet. Bro, I went to a game in Memorial last year,

and it was quiet after the first quarter. That's a different time, bro. Mitch kid. Bro, what is... Is that the home opener? The definition of insanity. No, I'm talking about it. Here's what I mean by that.

Let me hear JPs. South Carolina's got Kentucky on the seven. All right, but that's not one of the choices. Yeah, Michigan, Texas. And it's insane. You're just trying to go against the ground. He's right. He's right.

The atmosphere is better at Nebraska than Michigan, but the teams are better for Michigan versus Texas. You wouldn't want to go to Austin? I would want to go to Austin, yeah, but also being going to Michigan, I would want to go to Michigan. And it's gotten a lot louder, by the way, guys. You should know that.

It's gotten a lot louder. I think it was actually rated top 25 loudest stadiums. It was in the 20s. It was in the 20s for sure. Iowa's got to be up there Iowa does get kind of loud I was a fun of atmosphere but because they put the fans right up on you

all that being said I'm going to go to your game no I know and the point I was going to make is with Michigan coming in like being the number one overall team it didn't take much of absolutely deflate that entire stadium because you're right but I'm saying the expectation going to this year we're in the spot to where

the expectations are like you know we really got a shot and week two is not that what the expectation is make a bowl game. Listen, I'm telling you right now the expectation is not to just win six games, bro. Is that what you're trying to tell me that all Nebraska, we're just rooting for six wins this year? If you, if we get to the end of the season and you guys are a 500 team, you're going to be so proud. No, I'm going to call for rules head.

Shut the fuck. There's no way, dude. I'm going to have to throw my hat in the ring. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, this wasn't the thing I saw. This wasn't the thing I saw. Take that off the screen. It was in top 25 quietest That's not what I saw That's the thing with the internet man

You can find anything to support it whatever you want Who is your second round pick I would take Texas Manning you got the quarterback He's not even starter He's not well Still on the team I don't know

I just like Texas I don't know Texas is a cool pro Yeah like I grew up like watching them Going to a lot of their their football games, baseball games, and so I kind of just like them.

So I would pick. All right. Yeah. Okay. Period. Let me go. I wasn't who you're training that pick. I like the Texas pick.

You got the young quarterbacks. You know, but you are a team that's already, you're already establishing. They're already establishing. He's somebody who wants to go in and win it right away. You can only say. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And from my understanding, I've never played Dynasty before. You want to pick a team that maybe doesn't have the prestige you wanted to have. Yeah. With my second pick, I think I'm going to go with the University of Miami. I think that'd be a very fun one to bring back to life. That's a good pick. I'm going to bring back to life in the ACC at the moment.

I'm going to go with Miami. The recruiting would be a lot easier down in Florida, but that would be a fun team to bring back. Give me Hawaii for my pick. I play an NCAA 14, man. I remember making creative players and just going to Hawaii and being like, let me just bring this conference, who has never seen the light as far as having any prestige of it. all and bring them some success make hawaiiolulu a hotbed for recruiting where all the boys and girls want to come and be a part of a national championship team hawaii is my second

pick that'd be a very challenging one too i respect that pick i also really don't know what i'm doing right now i'm just saying just throwing people out there yeah no i'm with you um i think the air force would be sick air force oh let's go let's go got to support the military yes I guess. Have to. Man, I want to hit a fun one. There are a few out there, but I think where I'm going to dial in on is

I was thinking about them. But I think it's going to be... That's a fun one. Let's go. Let's go Arizona. Let's go Arizona. Fun team right now, Big 12. I don't know if I want that one.

All right, take it off the board. Colorado. Colorado would be fun, but again, they got two of the best players in the game. It's like to me, in my opinion, you'd be able to, with Chardur and Travis Hunter, you'd be able to win very fast, in my opinion. Because I was dabbling with, you got Arizona. I like Missou. Missouri would be fun.

Kansas would be fun. Kansas State would be fun. Let's go to Missouri. Let's go Missou. Because we're talking SEC. They're a fun school. It would take a lot to build that program and really compete year in and year out and mode in the SEC I'm gonna go with Mizzou and they had that D-N that came out in 2013

that's your favorite oh yes yeah what was his name again Sam something Sam what was his last name I can't remember I only remember him from the videos is it Michaelson yeah I can't remember Sam I can't remember now that you say it Michael Sam um yeah my pick my pick's gonna be uh Arizona State University I think Dillingham out there and I dude I talk about this all I have no idea why ASU is not a hotbed for recruiting. You're in Tempe, you have Old Town Scottsdale, you got Phoenix, you have sun every single day.

You literally got girls going to school in their bikinis. Like, it's one of those schools where it's like, you got Blue Mountain State written all over it. Yeah, but the facilities suck. Yeah, they suck because they've never been good. Right. Yeah. So you go, you bring some boys in there that can really get it done.

And then all of a sudden the money starts coming. But Arizona, Arizona by far is the most like, Fair Weather fan base of all the states, I believe. They don't give a shit about sports teams unless they're good. And the minute you start getting good at ASU, it is going to be a crazy pride all around it. You didn't go there. Yeah, you're right.

I was trying to go to the league. And everybody who's trying to play high-level college football wants to go to the league. And all you got to say is, hey, don't worry about all that external bullshit. You want to come to a real program, an NFL hotbed. You come here because you're going to spend the majority of your time in the facility.

Yeah. An argument to that is, is like, you can enjoy everything and also be a star immediately. you can build something beautiful and lay a foundation for a procedures university and you can be one of the pillars that stands on with your statue sitting outside

because there's only Patrick Tillman and you're the example you did not go there yeah you're right I didn't well and there was never ASU offered me and I thought hell yes but no no shot yeah like official visit let's take one a big reason why I didn't go to ASU was a bunch of kids from Swarro

we're going to ASU and I was like I don't want to play with these guys but you can't win with your guys I don't know please dude yeah will n i help them and what will n i'll help Arizona state they got to find somebody no money no dude n iL helps bigger market nil helps the biggest programs the programs like michigan like a Nebraska like these schools that have a lot of history and a huge alumni like Michigan has one that like the largest living alumni so they will have a bunch of people give money and they have people that

you know the guy who owns the dolphins also owns michigan look at oh house state If they win this year, it's not because of their culture or how awesome they are. It's because they spent the most money and most NIL money out of any program. Talk about an aster. Everyone talks about Michigan. That's an astererick written all over. You guys didn't earn that. You guys bought that.

Yeah. I mean, you guys had some pretty hefty allegations last year. Yeah, and where are they now? Still there. They're fucking gone. People don't give a fuck anymore. Still pending. Hardball dipped.

Everyone's like, I guess we're cool. I guess we're good. I'm going to Sharon Moore now. Yeah. NIL helps teams. that you're only going to know what kind of walls that they have if they pour into the facilities. You don't have anybody that pours into any facilities at Arizona State. So even though you think that NIO would help them, I'm pretty sure there's, you got all

these boosters and not backing up the brink trucks to go pay for a roster. You know what I mean? They have so many holes too. But that's why I think ASU is a great pick for Dynasty because now you get to make all that happen. For sure. And Dillie is the man. Dillie is the man.

The thing I love about Dillingham, that's a head coach for ASU, he doesn't want to go anywhere else. That's where he's wanted to be forever. Born and bred Arizona, Cat went to high school with him. That's where he wants to be. That's what the Texas Tech baseball coach said, too, before he went to Texas. Well,

great point. That's a good point. Dillie is the man, though. You sit there in his office and listen to his passion. He oozes with it. Really? Yeah. That's dope.

Yeah. He like him. Should we talk about best ball week at Draft Kings? Here's why. Taylor, let me tell you why this is such a big deal. Draft King's Best Ball millionaire, is their biggest fantasy contest ever. You're talking $15 million in a guaranteed prize pool with two, that's right,

two millionaires being crowned for the first and second place. If you're a set it and forget it type, then best ball is for you because there's no waiver wires, no roster management, there's bigger roster so that injuries won't end your season. Sorry, by the G. Only the draft and that's it. You're set for the season. And if you're still not convinced, check this one out, boys. This year's draft kings is offering everyone a draft one get one special.

So your $20 entry fee scores you a bonus ticket. Best Ball Week is here. Download the Draft Kings app and use code bus. That's code Bus BUS for all customers who enter the NFL best ball $15 million millionaire contest to get a bonus ticket and get a shot at being crowned to be one of two millionaires. It's best ball week only on Draft Kings. Bring back your reminder, JJ McCarthy. J.J. McCarthy.

Now, you play with a lot of good quarterbacks. We can get into that in just a minute. but you talk about the 11th overall pick of a national championship winning team. J.J. McCarthy comes in after Kurt Cousins is now in Atlanta. What have you seen from the boy? Yeah, he's been incredible. Has he? Yeah, I mean, well.

Fuck you. He seems like a worker. Yeah, no, he is. He's a worker. He's grinding in the film room. He's grinding in the classroom. Like, he's a baller on the field, obviously. But like, to have a guy, like, especially a rookie, you know, when you come into a facility

into the league. Like, you usually need to shut your mouth and, like, go to work. And that's exactly what he did. Like, he's earned the respect of a lot of guys in there. Obviously, we have Sam Darnold, too, who is a baller and can play the game at a really high level. So it'll be interesting what happens with those two. But I'm excited that JJ is on our team and on our squad.

I mean, like I said, he's a leader. He did that in Michigan. and, you know, I'm sure it'll carry over to the league just as well. Before the draft happened, were you pretty bummed that Kirk went to Atlanta? Yeah, I mean, you know, I love Kirk. I mean, just a great dude, but you can't fault a guy. I mean, you can only play this game for so long. And so, you know, you may as well make the most of it as, you know, that he's done.

I mean, he's made a lot of money in this league. And so you can't fault him at all. And obviously that's where Julie, his wife is from. And so they have their roots down there and they have family down there. And yeah, I mean, I wish nothing but the best for Kirk. I mean, just A-list guy, like just such a good dude. Tom Nodge cat. Yeah.

Like, I mean, he still texts me like, hey, how are you doing? What's going on? You know, like, hey, can you have any plays that you know, like that we ran last year? That would be good that you remember, you know, stuff like that. He just keeps in touch. And so you got to love that for my guys. you know because it's not at the end of the day it's not just you were a teammate you know you're a friend and so that's that's pretty sweet from him you've got to play with some awesome quarterbacks

as taylor was saying how would you if you did tear him out oh that's that's aggressive well you play with great quarterbacks let's say standard great quarterback yeah 100% they're they're all fantastic quarter i mean like um coming into the league you know and i have in stafford like that was huge for me because Stafford was a guy that was like just get open like I'll throw it to you you know and so like that kind of let me be free my first couple years in the league like okay all I got to do is beat this guy in front of me and I don't really have to worry about much and staff will put it where I need to and so that was a real stepping stone and like where I've been able to get into the league and then going from staff to JG you know JG is like he's he's a lot of

all about ball. So like he knows like where you need to be at this certain time, like when you need to be there, like at what depth and that kind of stuff. So that kind of taught me like the analytical part of it, like why I need to be there based on coverages and like, okay, you know, the league's gotten from, you know, a lot of man to three match to zone to, you know, like cover two and being able to, you know, Ben Johnson was the OC and he was my tight ends coach for a few years. Detroit and so like he taught me a lot of that and then like he was when he became the OC he was he let me like read coverages and like you know hey we have a pressure right now but like if it's covered too let's just hook on the inside of the numbers because that's

what avoids that you know so I think that was huge for like another stepings and like actually learning defenses and understanding like what's going on rather than like hey just get open which was awesome like I love that don't get me wrong, you know. And then going from that to Kirk was, you know, it was kind of like a mix, honestly, because Kirk was like, hey, I don't care how you get there, but like get there in this timing, you know, because like I'm playing off my back foot at this point. So just get open at that time, you know, and that was huge. And kind of taught me a lot of like the quarterback's progression, like, okay, hey, I'm on the backside. I'm running a basic route. But, you know,

They say it's at 12, but really I can push this to 14, give them a little sauce at the top, and be there for when Kirk needs me, you know, and you're running pressure, okay, hey, you're my first read. So if you don't get all the way to 10, not a big deal, like hit it at 8 and we'll move the sticks, you know? So, like, that was huge and just learning the quarterback position a little bit, you know, and understanding what they're doing in the backfield. Like, they're going from here to here to here. And that was, that was a nice thing for me. me to like kind of learn and so um yeah now to have j j and and sam like those guys i mean obviously they're kind of learning their own and like figuring it out um sam's obviously been in the league for

a while but like j j j to have him out there and like you know he's he's trying to figure it out and like it'll be it's cool because like you can talk to him about different things and like hey like what would you like here and he's like well i don't know let's try it you know and so then you go out there and you try it and he's like, I like that or I didn't like that. You know, like that'll be cool to kind of be able to have that communication with a guy like that that's young. So, yeah, I mean, I would, I've played with a lot of really good quarterbacks and each one of them have been different, which is cool.

How different is that for you having the quarterbacks with all, they understand what they already like and what they know to now being in the position you are where you're like kind of teaching more than you are learning? Yeah. I mean, it's, it's definitely. You know, like I say, it was really good because each quarterback that I've been with is obviously at the top of the league. And then they each have their own different little like thing and like what they like. And so for me to be in the position I'm in right now with a young quarterback coming in and you can talk to him about like, hey, this is what staff liked.

Hey, this is what Kirk like. This is what J.G. liked. you know, and so, and he, I'm sure he can take pieces from all that, you know, because. And having a head coach who was a quarterback. Yeah, and Keo is incredible. I mean, like, Keo is one of the best, like, people, like, head, like, he just knows what's going on in football. And, like, he understands the game so well. And he's really good at, you know, you get around coaches that understand the game really well,

but then they can't, they're not as good at teaching it. And KEO is like really, really good at being communicative and like teaching you like why this is and like why you do that. And that's that's hard to come by because you know, I mean, everybody in the league knows the game. But like to be able to communicate how they know the game and like where they see it and how they see it, that's different. And so to have him in that room with, you know, with JJ and it is going to be a lot of fun for. him and it's huge. And to have Kio around us, like he comes in our room with Ange and, you know, sits down and then he'll come out and he'll talk to us. And on the field, we're running routes. He'll be like, hey, keep this more vertical because of this coverage. Or like, hey,

keep this, you know, you can spin out of this a little quicker because of that, you know, like you're the first reed, you're the second read, you're the third read, you're the last read, you know, that kind of stuff. So it's definitely, you know, like my knowledge of the game has grown a lot, because of the people I've been around and the people in Minnesota are incredible. Ben Johnson was somebody who was in kind of like the, you know, people wanting him to be their head coach. Do you see him being a head coach one thing? Yeah, I mean, he can do, like Ben can do whatever he wants to do. I mean, he's one of those people that if he puts his mind to something, like he'll do it. And he is, again, another one of those

people that, like, is really good at teaching the game and breaks it down into simplicity. like he'll like I can't you know I mean like my rookie year like I had a tight ends coach who you know wasn't the the best in the world but like Ben and I would go and like sit down and watch film and he was the quality control of the guy at the time you know so we would go to another room we would sit down watch film and he would break down like hey here's Travis's film this is why he does this this is why he's so good here's George's film this is why he does this. This is why he's so good. And then, like, being able to pull that and do, like, and understanding releases and, like, he'd break down, you know, different, um, route trees and, like,

each part of the route, you know, and so that was huge. I mean, Ben's one of the best people. I mean, like I said, I talk to Ben a lot. Um, he, he, he can easily be a head coach in this league. And, you know, he's a, he's a guy that people like to play for. So, yeah. Take us to the moment. where you got traded. Yeah. How was that for you? Were you bitter at first? No, I wouldn't say so.

I mean, like, I kind of, there was a lot of articles coming out because we were, I think, one and six at the time, like. Articles of you being like on the trading block? Yeah. Because was that your contract year where are you coming up to the end of your contract that year? Yeah, like I was in my fourth year at the time. And so like I kind of like understood, hey, either they're going to want to keep me here or they're going to want to get rid of me and try to get some draft capital.

And so, like, I was having a really good year at the time with, like, not, you know, I wasn't getting the ball a ton, but, like, being able to create separation. And when I did get the ball, I'd make the most of it, you know. And, yeah, I think the last game I had, like, three targets, three catches and, like, 90 yards or something like that. Because, you know, we played Miami, and it was, like, I could understand, I understood, that they were, you know, they were kind of starting to get to that point. And, you know, you have conversations. You see, like, what's going on and you see the articles coming out. You know, you just have conversations with the guys like, oh, like, what's going on, you know? And everyone's like,

you're not leaving, you know, you're not going anywhere, you know, but they don't know, because it's really solely up to the GM, you know. And so at that point, you know, I got a call on Tuesday and was like, hey, you were getting traded to the Vikings and appreciate it. And, you're going to be a lot. And have a good one. I was like, all right, cool, sounds good. Were you excited? Bummed? No, I was excited. I was excited. It was a fresh start for me. Obviously, I knew, like, I was going to play for Coach O'Connell, who was a young coach, and, like, it was his first year, and he has, he was six and one, or something like that

at the time, and, like, just a really up-and-coming coach, and then to be able to get around him, and it was the best thing for me. Like, God put me in the right place. Um, like I, I love Minnesota. Um, I love the team, you know, and, and it really starts at the top with K.O. and the ownership, like, those guys are incredible and it trickles down. Like, I mean, like I say, you know, you have your PT, your head PT come down and like, watch you do things. And they want you to, like, live a life outside of football and like love people, you know, like that, that doesn't come around in this league very much. I mean, you guys know how cut throat it is. And so, um, to have that and like to build relationships with those people in minnesota and with the vikings has been

incredible like you don't find a a bad human being at any point like whenever you turn a corner there's there's somebody that you know and you'll you can have a conversation with them for 30 minutes and just like just about life it's not about anything and you know if there's a bad person that's in the facility it's found out really quick and they're gone you know like that's just what it is and and so they really only attract good people They really preach love and being a team and actually as much as a team as you can be in the NFL, you know, like that it's hard because everybody's in and out the door. But they're incredible. It's really the best place for me and I hope I'm there for a long time.

Take me through the timeline a little bit more of like how the whole trading thing started. Like when the rumor started, who was your first call? Because I know there's a lot of people probably listening to this that don't know what goes on behind you. closed doors in a locker room. And a lot of times guys find out they're traded on the ticker. Then all of a sudden they get a call from the GM. For you, when the rumor mills start

and then when of the actual transaction happened? The rumor mill started, I think, the week before I got traded. Like that week going up to the trade-down line, like there was a bunch of articles that were coming out. Like, hey, do we trade Hawkinson? Like, who could we trade, you know? And then I just called Ben

because, like I said, I had the best relationship. I had the best relationship with him at the time. and Dan was new-ish, I think, at the time. I think he might have been a year in. And so I called Ben and was just like, hey, like, what are they thinking? He was like, dude, you don't really have anything to worry about. You know, like, I love you. I think everybody around here has a lot of respect for you and what you're doing.

You're a good player. And I don't think that's the thing, you know. And so I was like, all right, cool. Sounds good. And then we lost to Miami that week. And I was coming off of a game where, against Seattle where I'd like 1506, 176 yards for two touchdowns. Like I was coming off a game and, you know, we lost the game, but, you know, I was playing well.

And so I wasn't too worried about it. And then Tuesday came around and I woke up and I was like, well, see, put my phone on ringer, you know. And I was in the facility for a few hours, just doing PT and recovery stuff. And then I left, go to go to a chiropractor and got a call on my way to the chiropractor and was told I was traded. Even up to that call, your worries about being traded were pretty much put the rest because your conversation with Coach Johnson? Yeah, I mean, pretty much. Like I still had a feeling. Obviously, you know, Neil kind of knows a lot of that stuff and he, like, can hear stuff.

And so I kind of, you know, still was like, okay, it's definitely a possibility. Right. But like for them to trade me within division, like I wasn't expecting that at all. But I mean, again, I'm so blessed and able to be there. So I was excited when that happened. But yeah, I wasn't, I wasn't really necessarily expecting it. But came and it's been a blessing. Is there a level of, you're with the Lions and they haven't won a division in like the last 30 years until this past year. And then you leave and now they're having that crazy success. Is there a point? part of you that's kind of like bitter towards that success um i mean you know obviously they're still in division so you like want to beat them and you want to win the division as much but you personally but i mean yeah not not not not crazy but like i mean you you see it and you're like like what's going on you know you talk to people and they're just like that i played with and they're just like you just started clicking like it was nothing got rid of you and everything just came into place

yeah yeah well i mean you think about it like the first like the first like I was only there for six games when Coach Ben got moved up to OC, like at OC. So, like, it was a learning curve for everybody. Like, it's not, that's one of those places, too. Like, the terminology is a lot different. Like, Ben makes it complicated, so it's easy, you know, like, if that makes sense, like, you know, each way is a different term. Like, so if you're on the right side, it'd be, like, I don't know, it'd be one term.

they'd be one term and if you're on the if you're going to the left same play it'd be a different term so like you can still do all that at the line but it was a learning curve for a lot of guys because that's not what you do you know and they'd be code names so it'd be like lobster and and whatever you know and so that was a learning curve for everybody and so everybody was trying to figure it out and get used to it and there was a lot of hiccups throughout that first seven games um and then we all started kind of getting it after like week five and starting to kind of figure it out and then you know now they they've gotten it to click and Ben's i mean there's no doubt in my mind that Ben's like a huge part of that because he's just uh you know kind of like a mastermind in that and that kind of sense

and um yeah i mean but i like bitterness like i i really was happy for like the boys that i used to play with you know like obviously they i was in it for a long time it's a it's not fun to like go out and play and not really have any success and then um you know for them to have some success like i was happy for the guys that i played with um but you know i mean to obviously be in the same division there's a little bit of that because you guys want to be the team we want to be the team and also like every player ever played with they got traded or left their team anytime we played that team there was that was circled that was like we got to hey boys we got to fucking get these guys yeah 100 It's got to, we can lose them all, but not this one.

This is the one we have to win. Yeah. So I didn't know if you had any of those types of feelings. 100%. I mean, you always get a little juiced up when you play them. Yeah. I mean, you just want to see them. And, you know, at that point, like I said, when I got hurt, that was that game.

And it was for really a playoff birth for us. And so that was a huge game. And, you know, it could have gone either way at the time that I got injured. And then, you know, I get injured. And it's still a close game. but I think that was it was tough for all of us so when the rumor mill starts are you did you and your girl ever play the game of like hey this place would be cool hey what about this place well we heard Miami that was the biggest thing so kind of got excited about that didn't you it was I mean it's warm

down there and you know but I mean when it when you talk about Minnesota and their their name kind of started like we heard like Neil heard their name and I was like that'd be nice because it's my like my family every game. My parents go to every game. They haven't missed a game since I've been, you know, 13. And so like they were driving to Detroit all the time and that's eight hours there, not including Chicago traffic, you know, and then eight hours back. And so it's only four hours from my hometown, Minnesota is. And so it's incredible for all of them and for me to be able to be around family. My mom's from Minnesota. So I have a bunch of bunch of extended family there so if i ever need anything you know i'm able to call them and i mean there's

there is such thing as minnesota nice you know like people around the the block around you in your neighborhood like they just love and they want to help out you know without being weird about it you know like you know how some people can be when you know you're you are who you are and then they're like getting a little too close you know but that's usually not a thing there so it's it's been it's been awesome And like I said, the facilities are beautiful, they're brand new. There's a reason it gets, you know, top two last year is number one in the NFLPA score. Like, they do it right in Minnesota. And it's, I'm just super lucky to be there.

Dude, take us, talk about the temperature of last year because you guys started off. How did you guys start? Did you start O and 4? Yeah, something like that. Which was, I know how to be insanely frustrating because when we would do S&P and everything else, It's like, yo, this is the best four-lost team in the NFL. Like, you guys only lost games because whether it would be a bad turnover, somebody dropping a ball at a crucial time.

Like, how frustrating was it? Because I know I would almost assume that K.O., the post-game conversations and everything else, is like you're trying to keep everybody up. You guys start to make a run, a very small run, until Kurt blows out his Achilles. Take us back to early last year and the temperature of everything. You know, Dobbs and came and took over and crushed. Yeah, went out. Right.

And then Dobbs comes in. That's an awesome story. It was a wild year. In terms of a lot of things, you know, we were, we obviously were a good team. Like, we knew it going into the season. Like, we were really excited about the season, especially coming off a 13-1 year, the year before. And so, you know, we lose the first game, you know, and it's like, all right, there's turnovers.

Like, that's on us. Like, we need to win, you know, and then lose second game, it was a third game. And it's like we really got to pick our shit up. Yeah, it's like everybody had like a, you know, your butt hole gets pretty tight. And like you're just like, let's go. Like what are we doing? Like we're, we are so good and we're not showing it on Sundays, which was frustrating for everybody, including the coaching staff.

And so, I mean, it was turnovers. Like, turnovers are the biggest thing you guys know. It's all about the ball. Like you get those presentations every week. And, you know, we just couldn't hold on to it. And that was like the biggest issue. And then we lose JJ and, you know, which. And yeah, well, we lose JJ first.

We kind of go on a. Oh, oh, yeah, my fault. My fault. I'm just thinking, McCart. It's been a long day. Yeah, yeah. You guys see it at B. 25 on your. Yeah, we lose Jets.

We lose Jets first and with a, you know, a hamstring. And then we start going on a run. And it's like, okay, like, we're good. Like, let's get back. And, you know, when Jets comes, we'll go off and we'll start playing in the, in the playoffs. and we'll have a successful year. And so, you know, we start on a run.

And then, you know, obviously Green Bay happens. And we're playing really well and we're up by quite a bit. And, you know, we come out of half and we have a full swing, full two touchdown swing. And that was huge for us. And then Kirk goes down in the last, you know, a couple drives. And it's like, what the heck just happened? You know, like, because nobody knows, you know, you don't know. And he's over there.

Like, I just rolled my ankle. I just rolled my ankle. and your Achilles is gone. Yeah, and then he gets carted off and you're like, oh man. It's a hell of an ankle, yeah, like, what's going on? You know, and you get into the locker room and we won the game, but it's kind of like a somber feeling because you lost Kirk, who, again, like I've talked about Kirk.

He's one of the best dudes, and so you don't want to see that from him. But, yeah. And then the next week, Dobbs comes in. And then the next week, yeah, we're in, we're in Atlanta and Dobs comes in and, you know, we're going through the whole quarterback thing. You know, we have, you know, you start one guy and then he gets injured with a concussion and then, you know, Dobbs is up, basically. And you're like, okay, like, let's let's see what it is.

But isn't that crazy? He got in and what, Tuesday, Wednesday? Yeah, and he doesn't know the offense. So he's like just repeating what he's hearing, but he doesn't know. And he's like, hey, what's my first read? And he's like, it's the left. I was going to say, how is the game playing changing in real time to like corral around him and help him out? That's kind of what it was.

You know, we were all in the huddle and we're kind of like just communicating to him as well as him communicating to us. Like, hey, like, because he was like, hey, what's this mean? Like, what's this route call? Like, or what's my concept? You know, we have fun, you know, flag under. And so it's like, you know, that's what that means. You know, like this is your first read. This is your second read.

And so he was balling that week. And he used his legs a lot and we were able to do like a scramble drill kind of. And, you know, I hadn't really had that from any of my quarterbacks. And so to have him out there and he was, you know, that was kind of fun because you. You guys just playing like some backyard ball. Yeah, like backyard is exactly what it was. It's your expectation too. Like everyone's expecting you guys is not doing well.

We got nothing to lose. Right. And he does a game-winning drive on the last drive. Which is nuts, dude. Which was huge, you know. And then we come out the next week, and I actually broke my rib in the Atlanta game. Fractured two ribs on my right side. I still got a nice little bump.

And then the next week is the Saints. Did you play? Yeah, yeah. Went off. That's a nice. I had like. I see you beast. I had the 135 in the first half with Dobbs.

plan and that was that was sick you know we had a lot of fun we came out hot and then does one as as I'm sorry to cut you off that when Dobbs comes in and you know he's obviously going to take over uh the next week does the game plan is it all about like simplifying yeah it easy for him to pick up on and for sure yeah I mean like just our you know can you know you have your first day first five day camp install plays like that's kind of what we were running um which were was easy for us and he was in the He was like I was when I first got traded. You know, he was like not eating, eating with the guys. He was in the, he would go grab his food and then go to the film room and like kind of learn everything.

And then a lot of communication, a lot of like talking to the guys and figuring it out. But yeah, I mean, he was incredible. I mean, I love playing with Josh. He's a great dude. And he's special. Yeah, I mean, with his legs and everything, he's a special talent for sure. I mean, yeah, for anybody coming in week of, especially the quarterback. position. Slinging it a little bit, game-winning drive.

I just imagine all the guys in the huddle and then Dobbs getting the call and he's just repeating it and all the guys are like, this is what I have, this is right, like across the board, this is the protection. That's like, fuck it, I got half that. We're going to figure out what goes on now. It's basically, hey, we're just running a boot here. Boat to the right. Yeah, boot to the right.

Look for us. And then Garrett or center, you know, he would, he was like at the point where, you know, because a lot of the time the quarterback will change or like telling you to TEO it and stuff like that for the tackle and Garrett's out there like hey T-O-Tio you know like calling all that stuff versus probably taking it off his plate having a smart center is

one of the biggest one of the biggest assets you can possibly have our whole line Ben was like a quarterback out there Ben some yeah a lot of guys a lot of times Tana Hill wouldn't even worry well Tannhill would be great but anybody else who was ever in there

Ben would be like I'll just all do the protection and then that's one in the quarterback doesn't have to listen to it all yeah you just kind of wait for Ben how point one way back I guess we're going this way Yeah. But Ben would also manipulate shit too. We'd be like, we were playing Houston one time. And it was like 42, 14.

And JJ is at the nose. And Ben goes, fuck it, R. puts me one on one. And then everybody else is in a full slide down Ben. Right. R.R. Sorry, Taylor. Yeah. Like, Jesus Christ.

Yeah. But it's a bit of a deal, dude. They always have the best haircuts. Why? Because they go to Sport Clips, dude. John McGarady, because this month, Sport Clips Haircuts is taking their MVP haircut experience to the ultimate level throughout the month of July. You get to relax twice and pay once because ultimate MVP is the same price as the standard MVP.

Also, just in time to beat the heat, not necessarily because it's absolutely the hottest has ever been in Nashville right now. The refreshing chilled towel is back. That means you get double the hot or chill towel action, double the, what's that word? Suzzy satisfaction. SUDsie is a tough word. It's a tough word. The D makes it hard. Yeah, the D throw it in there.

Sudsy satisfaction of a massage shampoo and conditioning treatment. If they, and if they could find a way to double the... Don't laugh, don't laugh. It makes it way harder for me to read. We need to laugh. To double the sports on their screens, they would double that too. When it comes to your hair, go to the specialists who were trained in men's hair. Sport Clips is the game changer valid at participating locations.

ends 731, 2024. Hey, I appreciate the little mouse going across the line, too. Because my brain was kind of getting foggy there for a second. He's like, don't do the last. Don't do the last. He's just got the mouse going across. Oh, there it is.

I don't know why we have that photo. Oh, I love it. That's awesome. Should we have some, do we have anything else to hit? I feel solid. Should we have a couple fun little segments? Let's do some segments. Shout out, no free shout out.

Yeah, let me pee. Yeah, yeah, go pee, go pee. Oh, I'm in on that. You try to go pee? Yeah, I've been. I've been doing it for a while. And it'll make you feel better. I don't know if you're like me, my back and ass is sweating violently.

I've been over and trying to catch it. No, you can do it. Yeah, you can deviate it however. So if you feel a bullet's coming, you can either slide if you feel like you need to do a full slide. And the back will block the one on the end. But you'd want to slide it away from the back so that way he can pick up the end and not have to go across the protection. I have to go across the formation. Yeah, they put me on a few 58s this year.

It's tough. Yeah. That Jordan Addison one? When, like right before half on the 49ers. Yeah? They put me one-on-one with Bosa, 59 protection. How was that? A die, slow death.

We scored a touchdown. So you handled them? I mean, yeah. You win in nine times? I did my job. You went in nine times out of ten on Nick Bosa. Don't do that to me. Don't do that to me.

I feel like tight-ins, they do get a reputation of if you're one-on-one, if you're a pass-rrrrusher, if you're one-on-one with a tight-end, you must win, basically. to win you have to win every single time yeah it doesn't always happen do you pride yourself on the blocking i do i do all right yeah i do my best i got i got a i got a couple you never ask for yeah i got a couple fun questions before we get into our segments number one prediction for minnesota in twenty twenty four oh like a record prediction yeah let's hear it oh man um 17 and no That's the only right answer

That is the only right answer Also which my second question Which quarterback Cheed your ass the most Ooh I got a couple I got a couple licking from staff Really? Yeah That would have been my guess

But I but like that was the best thing for me Productive last Junees Yeah like it was it was great And I was a rookie and so like I was I didn't really know like what was going on. So to have that and like, and you know, like, well, maybe you don't, but like staff is like one of those people that like doesn't really like, he's not a loud talk or he's soft spoken. Like he's just a boy. Like he's one of the boys. So he wants to get close to. Like I went out to dinner with staff and his wife and, you know, a few times. And

then like on Sundays like if I screwed something up, he'd get into me. And that, that's like, it's a good feeling. You know, like I mean, What's the story that you remember? What's one that, like, sits there and, like, oh, hey, staff, remember that one time when you ripped my ass? Yeah, I actually caught a touchdown, and he ripped me. But it was my fault, 100%. Like, we were, I can't remember who we were playing, but we were on, like, the three-yard

line, and there was this play that he would check to. But the whole line would slide left, and we'd leave the DN free. and because a lot of the time, like, the D-N would have to carry the flat, and then they would screw up. So it was like a three-man set over on the right, and he checked to it. And, like, I was supposed to bluff the end to, like, make him think I was rushing rather than pulling me to the flat, but I just kind of went to the flat. And then that leaves him a free runner, you know, rather than the D-end.

So he, he, like, turned around, and he saw the defense. of incoming he sidearms it score a touchdown and I was like let's go and then I just see staff shaking his head run to the sideline and then when I get to the sideline he just gives it he lays it into me but I needed it like I was I think that might have been my first or second year and it was like you know you got to know that stuff so it was like the little details you know but like so I appreciate it so like there was never anything where like I've never gotten an ass shooting where I'm like I didn't deserve it you know So I kind of respect it and was like, all right, cool, my bad.

Like, I'll get it next time. You got to respect that you scored touchdown. Yeah, like, it's not good enough. It's like, hey, it's not good enough. This is not good enough. It's not about the result. Yeah, yeah. No, you got to love that.

Oh, you want prediction for Iowa. They're going to be Nebraska. What's college football? Not 12, 12 games. Eight win season, for sure. So I'm going to go nine and three. Okay. Strong.

Who they lose to? Pull up the schedule. Yeah. Thank you. I'm in. Yeah. I'm down. I'm in on that.

Whoever loses, you have to do a video saying that this school is basically like your alpha male, your daddy. Okay. Done. And this program is better than our program. Okay. I'm in. I like that. You guys got a pretty easy schedule here.

Um, oh yeah. Dude, we might go 12 and out. Dude, you guys are not. You guys are going to lose Ohio State. Probably Washington. There's Ohio State. I would say that one's a close one. Let's just call that one a loss just to be fair.

Right. Washington. You got to find your three losses. That'll be a tough one. So you want to call that a loss? Two weeks in a row. I don't know if that can happen under KF though. Washington is at Iowa too.

Yeah. So I think we get that one. Is UCLA any good this year? No. I think Wisconsin's going to be tough, man. Are they last year? The last couple years. He's now into his second.

Okay. His second year. I think they'll be tough. That will be a tough one. Michigan State's not even good anymore, right? No, they're not any good. Yeah. Okay.

Okay. But where's the one more? I don't see the one more. It looks like Friday, November 29. It might be 10 and 2. I like 10 and 2. I know we're not losing. It's always right after.

I know we're not. losing black Friday that's never a thing that's what you'll do too you lose that's what you'll do too lose you promote our our black Friday sale okay all right what's your black wait what's your black Friday just like bust and buss and merch 20% off okay you talk about how great Nebraska is how they're way better than we ever can think to be also 20% off yeah 20% off Friday yeah all right I like it I'll have to get it's at Iowa though 10 and 2 is not a bad not a bad deal that It's not. No, it's not. That's very much. Is that what you guys were last year? No, I think we had nine, right? You might have been a 10-win team last year.

You guys might be, well, I don't know. What's that? Because we lost that BS one with Cooper running it back in Michigan. Yeah. Yeah. He was not. I know, he was not. That was a terrible call. And then like this, like what? What are you talking about? Yeah, you guys are like a, um, a smelly, a stinky good team. Yeah, it doesn't always need to look good. Always pretty good. Yeah, but they're, you know, they kind of, they kind of have a stench to them. It's never pretty, but it's beautiful.

Right. They kind of have a stench to them. We got to clean them up. How can we clean them up? Duke Cannon. Shout out, no free shout out is presented by Duke Cannon. A product that's not for clowns, a thick body wash, Buffalo Trace.

It is my favorite scent. You have the oak barrel and amber scent that'll have you, that'll leave you smelling good, not like a JV locker room. You'll be smelling good for the boys. You can pass them around the, the locker room. It's time to elevate your game by working harder and smelling better. Scroll down.

Oh, no. As always, the boys got a special code just for the tier ones. Use code tier one. That's T-I-E-R and the number one on Duke Cannon.com for 15% off your first order. Duke Cannon, work harder, smell better. If you're unfamiliar with shout-out, no free shout-out, we're shouting out simple things of the world, whether it can be a person, it can be an event, it can be a little moment. Recently, I want to say Quentin Nelson, he shouted out, or maybe,

JP did with cold water fountains back in high school back in the elementary school day jp i want to say shout it out the wall like a concrete wall something small i think i got one yeah yeah could be a person whatever you want to do i go first yeah sure or do you want to hear one of us go first no i got it okay shout out no free shout out right airport dryer hand dryers nowadays i was washing my hands at the airport the other day we flew back to iowa city for like three hours and wash my hands and they have them now where it's dual-sided it's right next to the to the washer to the sink and dual-sided right there actually work because you know they never really work right when you got the one pipe just going it's

yeah and then you're hitting it like five times yeah but that one was legit I really is that the one the one no no it's right next to the sink and it's like slowly and it's both hands too like you don't have to do one at a time it's perfect that's a little and in your brain you're thinking like how do i do this you put them in their deep first you didn't even that though it was it was attached on top by the sink it was incredible i was i was thoroughly impressed man you got to find that that's a one of one that's a good shout out yeah it's a good shout out thank you this dude can't smells nice you got one i do have one go ahead my shout on no free shout out i don't know how people are going to react to this but overall it's a very positive thing my old man he's

He quit drinking. Really? Yes. My dad quit drinking. You see, yeah, big, big shout out to Bill Compton. Christmas is going to suck this year. Thanks, yeah. Having them at the house.

You're going to be a dud, bro. When he was telling my little brother, Wyatt and Scott, when they came over, he had them over. And basically was like, I'm glad you guys both came here. I got some bad news. And they thought it was like a really bad thing. He's like, I quit drinking beer. And they're like, what the fuck you're talking about? He quit drinking beer or he quit drinking alcohol.

quit drinking alcohol. I mean, he's a beer guy. He's a beer guy through. I didn't know if he was like, I'm going to go harder. Yeah, I mean, this is somebody who puts down at least probably six, eight. Yeah. I mean, Bill's staple is going to a party, finding the best chair, sitting in it, putting in a lip-in, and drinking as many cold beers as he possibly can.

With a fat. That is Bill Compton. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he quit, man. He quit cold turkey. And he said it was not hard. Really? And he shot me a text the other day.

I asked how everything's going because this is about, this is about two weeks old. and I asked how he was doing. He said, I've been owning my mornings by the way, up before 7.30, even on weekends, getting my walks in, weights are getting up close

to what I was doing a few years ago. So I'm fired up for Bill Compton. Let's go. That's huge. That's a knock. That's a knock for Bill. And I think it's good that, because he'll be watching this,

it's good for the public accountability as well. So he's got to stay true to it. Has to. But very fired up. And the minute, if he does relapse it anyway, you have to call him out in this podcast. Have to.

Yeah. Yeah, you hear that then? We have to call. call you out if you relapse in any way but i'm fired up for but but christmas is cool bill because i need you for jigsia birdhouses maybe holidays it's fine when you're at my house it's like it doesn't count yeah yeah holidays don't count yeah holidays don't count um my shout out for a shout out is not a small shout out and it's going to go to o fb which stands for oh yeah i'm a fuck boys now i went to a wedding in canada

and this wedding was a unique wedding like i've never seen before it was a hundred people Everyone went to this big field, 180 acres at this guy's property, and they had trailers. Everyone just stayed in trailers. And everyone's kind of camping out and doing those things. And I meet Dallas Sanger. Dallas Sanger is Taylor's Tailing's cousin, my wife's cousin. And Dallas is a good boy. Top-notch cat.

But I met his friends. And his friends were the best group of friends I have ever seen in my entire life. They all have OFB tattoo that they all gave each other. There's a tattoo gun that they're all sharing. the same needle and tattooing each other different things. But that's not why I'm shouting them out. Everybody knows like when you and your boys that have been around each other for a long time go out and everybody gets drunk.

But one guy gets too drunk where he starts getting like nostalgic and teary eye and he wants to tell you how much he loves you. And it's like, bro, come on. It's not the, you just know you got to put this guy to bed soon. What I witnessed at this wedding as a son was setting at 11 p.m. in Canada, all of these guys were equally that drunk, just loving each other. No one was the, hey, man, we don't got to do this right now. It was around a bonfire, and these boys sat there and told each other how much they

loved each other. There were songs playing. They're singing as loud as they can. There's 50 people sitting around, but to those six, seven boys, it was just them. And I sat back in a chair and just watched them being like, that is the pinnacle of friend groups, something that probably none of us have ever experienced. It was one of the most beautiful, rare. things I have ever seen in my entire life.

So my shoutout goes to OFB. I tattooed OafB and myself, I did get offered OFB. It was like, hey, how do I get in the street? I declined it. How do I get this tat? Yeah, they had a bunch of good boys out there, man. Good shout-down, no free shout-out. Yeah. For this next segment, Dad, if you're watching, don't listen to this ad of re.

Twisted tea, a refreshing hard iced tea made with real brew tea and 5% alcohol, full of flavor, very refreshing. Goes down super smooth because it's not carbonated, which is easy, makes it easy to drink all day long. It's 312. I know, I know. Twisted tea feels fun and celebrates extreme fandom on game day.

Keep it twisted with the boys. It is the perfect alcohol beverage for game day. Grab a refreshing twisted tea today. Our twisted question comes to us from Mitch. He says he has a good one. As of right now, CFB 25 has been out for 12 minutes. As of right now. So we got a...

This one comes from... Not to rush you all. This has been a great podcast. You've been awesome, dude. This has been a great thing. Appreciate you guys. Appreciate you guys. Appreciate it.

This one comes from JP. JP. This one comes from JP Hovey. Would you rather be an unknown superhero or a famous villain? Ooh, that's, uh. Unknown superhero. That's easy. Yeah.

Unknown superhero for sure. I don't know if it's easy. I think you all flirt with the idea of like, you could be a badass villain. Yeah. That's known. And you're just, you're calling your own shots. It's like the Joker. I'm pretty low-key, though.

I'd rather just, I don't need to be famous. Yeah. I'm just thinking to my brain, like, when you get those RPG games and you get to either go villain or good guy, you start off thinking about the idea of being a villain. And it's a video game. So nobody's going to know, right? But you ultimately end up making the good decisions just to get back in good favor with the crowd and the town and everything else.

So I'm going to go with unknown hero. That's a good one. I'm going to go villain. 100% dude. Just being like, and the first person that always comes to mind is the Joker from Dark Night. And that is all time. Just calling your shots, doing what you want.

everyone knows you don't know what his moves are because he's such a fucking wild card if you're a super famous villain you know you're known for being just multiple steps ahead of the government and that's badass

and that's badass I'll take that I'll take the villain I love it. Good question that is a great question good question what would you go with you'd go with the hero?

I would go unknown hero for sure yeah I mean be on a bunch of land just be able to freaking do whatever you want Should be Clark Kent. Oh, so sick. Yeah. Wear some glasses.

Nobody knows who you are. Be so sick. Have superpowers? Yes. You have superpowers? You get to be a hero. It's a hero or unknown hero? Superhero.

Let's change the game a little bit. Yeah, but nobody knows you. Oh, so you couldn't go play a sport. Right. I mean, you could. You're Superman and you're like, I don't really feel like protecting people. I'm just going to go be the best football player ever. Never get hurt.

Never get tackled. In Smallville, which is based around Superman, he was. was a very good high school football player did just enough i remember one time he was throwing the ball and right when he released it he ran somewhere saved somebody stopped something from happening and got back in just to get hit and throw the game weighing touchdown yeah well you tell me superman didn't make the league i'm just saying in smallville in this show which was a phenomenal show and shout out my boy logan that we watch this every week this is one of our soap operas every week all right banger show bro lana

Remember, remember, like, him and Lana, they had the relationship? And I remember when the song, that Lifehouse song hit super hard. What was the name of that song? I've just heard it yesterday. Hey, type in, type in Smallville, Lifehouse. Lifehouse. Lifehouse. Incredible song.

You would know it. We will all know this. Because it's you and me. It's all everything. I mean. And I mean. I love the people with nothing. Because he loved Lana and it's,

it's almost like he didn't know how to tell her all the time. This is a classic bad acting storyline show. You would love it back in the day, back in the day. This was great. This was a great routine, Smallville, and then you'd also hit one tree hill the next day. Lana reminds me of too hot to handle. You seen that show?

My wife watches it all the time. That's Lana right there. Gosh, she's a fox. But yeah. She's no Topanga. She's no Topanga, but she's a great one. I think Topanga was our age groups like... I mean, that was the come up.

That was the crush. Yeah, that was I think everybody in our age group's first crush. Yeah, Topanga. Maybe he's younger than us. Who is your, like, celebrity crush in the TV show world growing up? TV show? I was a big friend's guys, so Jennifer Anderson was huge. Yeah, that's a good one.

That's a good one. That's a good one. But Megan Fox and Transformers. Yeah. That's a movie. Yeah, I know. She took everybody's hearts. When you said show, it changed me.

She did take everyone's hearts. Dizzy Channel needs to bring back their original movies. Patty mayonnaise. Oh, yeah. Oh, Patty mayonnaise. Get into the animated world. Halloween Town. Halloween Town is legit.

A little sneaky. Oh. Just out of nowhere. Just a bent over pictures. She looks so different now. That's one of the most iconic photos of all time. Of all time. You can put that one next to Trump.

How's her body moving like that? You put that one next to Trump. Johnny Cash at the middle finger, that might be top three photos. Oh, this has been a fun podcast, boys. TJ, thank you, man. Appreciate you guys having me. Hell yeah, dude. This has been a great, yeah, this has been a great.

Fun pot. Got to start with a good, you know, put on our tinfoil hats, talk about the president or talk about the former president Trump. And then get into, dive into all that. I see your heads at well. You know. So what happens. We'll see what happens where my vote goes.

Yeah, dude. Subscribe, leave comments. If you are listening on audio, make sure you're following the boys on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. And let all your boys know. Let the group chats know. We got to get the subscribers up. Oh, not to mention and shout out.

Sorry, we forgot to hit it. But shout out to you guys. We got up to, I think each of you, we rounded it up. So everybody on the back of the bus gets $1,000. There we go. How do you pay. About your pay. But thank you for tuning in.

official month for JP and Jack especially. Thank you for tuning in. See you. Love it. Because it's you and me. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin.

And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We get to ask other people to do podcasts.

We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.

Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starting. carving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, it's Ashanti Plummer from Fudd Around and Find Out. This week, AZ Fudd and I sat down with Step and Curry. Step talks pressure, confidence, and what it really takes to stay great. There's different categories, I guess, so my conditioning, shooting drills where you try to simulate kind of game. Look at her face. We have a love-hate relationship with those because you know you're getting something out of it. You don't look forward to those days. Listen to Futter Around and Find out on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.