Bussin' With The Boys - Tony Vitello On How He Landed Historic San Francisco Giants Manager Role + From CBB To MLB | Bussin'

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

Recorded: November 03, 2025 Will Compton and Taylor Lewan welcome College Baseball powerhouse Tony Vitello, former head coach of the Tennessee Volunteers and now the new manager of the San Francisco Giants! Taylor Lewan kicks off the pod by further apologizing for his Spooktober showing. However Will Compton presses him to a point that Taylor defends his title as the king of Spooktober. The boys then recap their Halloweens with the family, sharing stories of trick-or-treating with their kids and the best costumes they saw over the weekend. Followed by Taylor fighting for his life on the bus explaining his battle with gout. Afterward Vitello hops on the pod and gives the boys an incredible interview. Renowned for his fiery intensity, innovative culture, and championship run, Tony Vitello will now look to translate his skills to the MLB. Tony opens up about his leadership style and team culture building, as well as a few recruiting secrets, game-day rituals (including the infamous leopard-print fur coat for home runs), and how he builds a winning mindset from the ground up. Along the way: light-hearted stories, locker room moments, and unexpected insights into what it takes to win at the highest level of college baseball and what it will take to win a World Series after what we all just witnessed between the Los Angeles Dodgers and Toronto Blue Jays. Big Hugs, Tiny Kisses! TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro3:19 Spooktober Is Over18:44 Gout Is No Joke34:20 Tickle Turkey38:48 Christmas Decorations 41:14 Dodgers Win World Series48:27 The Final Bite1:04:24 TONY VITELLO JOINS1:04:29 Is The Dodgers Winning Bad For Baseball?1:08:53 Getting The Giants Job1:14:13 Difference In Coaching In College v MLB1:15:09 Telling Tennessee He Was Leaving1:22:35 Was The MLB A Goal Of His?1:30:55 Coming Up The Coaching Ranks1:34:33 NIL In College Baseball1:49:54 Salary Cap In MLB?1:51:15 Tony Owes The Boys Some Money1:54:00 Farm System vs College2:00:43 What Will He Miss Most From College?2:03:39 Moments He Likes To Look Back On2:07:43 Taylor’s First Pitch2:13:06 Bud Light: What Would You Do Anything For?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Bro. Welcome to Bustin with the Boys episode 3.53. The boys, Spooktober is over. We are now in a Thanksgiving season. Christmas season is upon us. We have Tony Vitello joining us on the bus today. New San Francisco Giants manager, the former head coach of the Tennessee Falls. He will be on the show with us today.

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this is the bus and intro and boys spooktober is over another year has gone another year has passed moment of silence for spooktober it's been an interesting year for sure last week i sat on this bus while you fine gentlemen were dressed up in your best hallowing costumes it was beautiful it was wonderful there's only one thing missing the head of spooktober the man who dubs himself number one of all spookiness was not wearing that i like to believe i wrote the ship a little bit throughout the week that's not for me to say put it in your core I'm basically putting words in your guys' mouth I will take the compliment thank you

but a hell of a spooktober for the Lawan family the Lawan family as a whole myself didn't watch as many spooky movies as I want didn't get my adult fix of spooktober that I'd like to get but from a family standpoint Disney World Mickey Mouse is not so scary Halloween we had the trick-or-treating we carved pumpkins I think my kids trick-or-treated three separate times

including a Halloween party as well. So overall, I had to get, we hit the, uh, uh, Nicole Lane. Nicole, by the way, dude, if I'm ever going to move from my house in Nashville, Tennessee, that's the neighborhood I'm moving into. It is. They bought in. You could tell there's a couple of bad apples, like there's four or five houses out there that either they're too old or they're anti-Hlloween, but that whole neighborhood dude lined up. There was a tent where adults could go and get their adult beverages while the kids were hitting the trick-or-treating. Willie C hit me up, hey, we went to this place last year.

My neighbor's telling me, this is the spot to go. And I was dealing with Gout, which we'll talk about in a little bit. But that was trick-or-treating. That's trick-or-treating on steroids, dude. Everybody's dressed up. Everyone's having a good time. Parents are making jokes and other parents of, like, what costumes were in. We're all kind of staying in character with each other.

Your family was dialed in. The inside out. Every time I looked at Charo, I laughed, bro. I would see you just I need to hear just Charles voice coach saying oh hey Taylor I'm like oh shit all right Bing bomb but dude just so funny

it was it was outstanding and there was like roadblocks with the police officers you get down the street and it was like a firework display where like the finale was the last house in the left dude their display I looked at Taylor and I go we got to step our shit up dude like this is I like take a lot

of pride in the decorations you put in the law and household this house they're like their decorations. I was like, this shit is incredible. That is amazing. And Charles' parents too being there, too. I didn't even realize it was them.

What do you got, J.B.? What's stuff about that? He's like, ah. Just Will having to be fear. I mean, he crushed it. He owned the role. He crushed the role.

But it just doesn't sit right with me. That he was assigned to be feared. Yeah. That's not Will. That's not Will. I hate that that got used to against me immediately. That's what I'm saying.

Like that, and it won't be the last time. It's like Nebraska. Anytime they show up and play a top 25 team. It's just me. Oh, it's now there forever. Yeah.

You put in way too much work to have that be your legacy. Yeah. Yeah. I don't disagree with that. I thought you knocked out of the park. A couple things too. You got a little piece of green in your teeth.

Oh, thank you. Yeah. We're going to get that out of the way. Other side. Other side. Other side. Other side. Yeah.

One over to the one over. Yeah, that one. Do you get it? Smile at me. Boom. He's back. Yeah, dude, the whole outfit was, it was outstanding. Who was the winner that y'all saw?

Like, everybody looked and was like, dang, that's a good costume. I saw one dad in a Willie Wonka fit. Yes. But it was like a very well, like a very well, like actual three pieces. I probably got it custom made. Yeah. I'm like, this dude really sold out. Good looking cat.

Yeah, had the longer hair, had the big hat on the cane. I saw him. I saw him. I was with that. Yeah, I saw him a couple times as well. The second time around he's like, what's up, Will. And I was like, oh, okay, we were both just not awkwardly staring at each other. I thought he just looked great in the Willie Wonka concept.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the first time I met, like, he walked out, I was like, bro, you really, that's awesome. He's like, yeah, you too, Dobby. Yeah. I was like, shit. All right, you got to know, you understand my game. You understand my game a little bit. Look at that hot dog.

Yeah. Anyway, dude, spooktober was awesome. It was awesome for the Luwans. I'm sure the competence had a great time. Was it. Do you ask all pumpkins? No carving pumpkins. We kind of gave up after last week.

Dude, I shut down the entire house. I was like, hey, Taylor quit on Spooktober. No, don't say that. We got to pack it in. Don't say that. We got to, so just to be clear, are you stepping down or are you not? I can't step down. If you guys think there's somebody that's more fit at this bus, I can't stop you.

This is a democracy. There's no hierarchy here. I would love another opportunity because you're right. Listen, the multiple gambling shows, the ESPN, my brain got too, like, focused on my weekly routine that when Spooktober came, I didn't give it what it should have been. I see where I went wrong. And I apologize for that. I could be better.

And then it was just, I just mashed a bunch of it in the last week. Mashed. I do want to throw it out there. I don't think it would be like a democracy type thing of like, oh, we vote for somebody to replace Taylor. They would have to challenge you head on to a spook off. I think it's like a one v. battle of the spook.

Battle of the spook. I don't think anybody's going to challenge you, though. I think you still are the Prince of Darkness, but I just wanted to put it out there a spook off. If somebody wanted to challenge it. You're the person that I think would challenge me and probably have the most likelihood of success is the person that was just talking on the mic.

I didn't. I don't have it. I ain't got it. We'll break it down. We'll look at the wins of Spooktober. We'll look at what worked, what didn't. Yeah. where there's opportunity.

And it'll be a collective brand. Like we're going to have to get more guys involved because again, this was a big massive contract year for Taylor. And I think if you're looking at it, front office wise, you're going to have to figure out something replaceable for what we did.

I didn't like any of that. Yeah. I don't like the way that felt at all. I don't know. I know it's uncomfortable. I know it's uncomfortable. You make the bed, you have to be able to sit there and be like,

hey, why is he saying that? Why is it hurt? Because there's truth in it. That's why it hurts. And I have to sit there. And I have to realize, listen, it's November 3rd right now, correct? I got a long way to the next spooktober. The longest ways you can possibly get.

And there's a lot of reflecting I need to do. You as well, the front office, you guys need to have your internal conversations that I shouldn't be a part of because I didn't earn that right. And I just hope at the end of the day we get to September and we know spooktober's in the horizon. You guys can look at me and be like, we're going to give you one more shot. Yeah. That's all I'm hoping for. How many days are we until spooktober? It has to be

331 Let me just type that out right now on Twitter It's not 31 Oh yeah yeah Yeah 60s Yeah 61 No because spooktober starts October 1

Oh yes That's another great point I know where my boat's leading I think it's 32 Might be 31 32 Are you just tweeting that You just tweet that out I might have to be the guy

I might have to just leave There's a guy. Hold on. There's a guy here that's going to hold it. It's not going to be you. I might have to leave. Like next year, like when merch comes out and everything else, I just might have to be the guy for Spooktober. A Spookoff?

A Will and Taylor Spookoff? Yeah. Listen, we could absolutely have that. No, I haven't. And I know that he just did. You lied. No, I didn't. No, I'm like, I'm like,

now Will I, when this episode comes out, so that way everybody's in on the inside joke. But yeah, it's just more of that. It's like Mirr Monday. We just got to take a good, hard look in the mirror. we have to get uncomfortable and be like what's going to push. If Spooktober is going to be a real thing for the brand, we got to remove the,

we had fun as a family. It's like, do we want this to be a hobby or do we want this to be a thing for the brand? But let's look at the last week, right? You're only as good as your last week in Spooktober and I think, if you want to want to brought it home. Yeah. We're talking about eight different costumes in ESPN.

You needed a lot of motivating. I would say the starting point was last Monday when we were sitting here on the bus. to not be motivated by others, be motivated by yourself. How do you beat yesterday? That's the goal here. He's being Michigan. It's like last year they're having a down year, but they come in and they beat Ohio State at the end.

Yeah. It's kind of, it's a reflection. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a lot of like, it's like, if there's an analogy, it just feels like the Mitch's fandom, Mitch's fandom in this last Spookover. Okay.

And like when I was really challenging him about, I think we're just kind of starting to try to hurt at this point. Like we've really driven a point home. If we won't have a spook off, that's fine. It's like whenever, it's getting pretty scary. It's like, yeah, I do you really want this? It's like, yeah, I do. It's like, but you think about it.

Yeah, but I still want it. But I could also, yeah, but I still want it. Like, hey, I could be better. No doubt about it. Did I drop the ball, especially in the middle of spooktober? No doubt. Did my, did I kind of have a massive Lawan family spookober? No doubt.

But when it comes to bust with the boys, yeah, could promote the merch better, could came in with more outfits, could have done a whole, there's, I could have done a little bit more work for a much better result. And that's really what you look at. It didn't take much to have the last week that I did. It just took a little motivation. And I needed to zoom out a little bit and realize what we did on ESPN there, that could have been every single week here. So I'll be better. Someone wants to have a spook off. We can have a spook. That's fine. By the end of What's the most important? It's celebrating spooktober.

That's the most important thing. So let's say it doesn't have to be about Taylor or Will or JP or Mitch's fandom that randomly just takes bullets. This is about the opening season of the holidays. And we've opened the season. It was a little bit rough. We got it. Good one at the end. Now we're looking for what's next.

Is it Christmas? Is it Thanksgiving? Like that's the now debate. What's going on here? Yeah. And let's get, let's have fun. Let's enjoy it. Because at the end of the day, we know, hey, this product wasn't good enough, Taylor.

All right. I understand that. We understand that. You want to, I feel like there's another thing you want to say. You're more than welcome to. No, you know, if there's ever space, we get to say a few things. It's like we're really coming down hard on Matt for turning off the TV. It felt like this was a moment where you've turned off the TV.

You turned it back on. There's some redemption in here. Yeah. And I think the team, like, we've all realized, like, how do we get the best out of our guy? Like, how do we motivate our guy? And I think we've kind of found those. I think we've kind of found those buttons. Yeah.

And I think the goal now, for me internally, when I have my own internal conversations with me is, okay, they motivated you this year. How do you bring the motivation and stay consistently motivated through 31 days of fright without having them have to come and pull you out of the weeds? Totally fair. I see that. Let me get back. I'm starting to work.

It's like, dude, it's like Santa and his elves. Like, I'm working towards Spooktober now. Like, we, it's, it takes three. 65 to have them with them 31. Yeah, yeah. But is there another analogy you want to use? No, I'm just, if I'm having internal conversations with myself, it's like, all right, you know how to motivate your guy, you got to continue to coach him harder when those opportunities

come. And so collectively we will be, we'll all be doing that. Right. Yeah. We'll all be better. We'll all be better. Yeah. Forget the fact that I just said, I can motivate myself and all that.

But I know, but I'm just saying I know a player feels that way, but sometimes it's like, hey, this is how you got to coach this player. Right. This is how you got to motivate this. And then a lot of times a player is going to find out, are you going to mature as a player or are you not? And I feel like this is an opportunity for me to mature as a player. But yes.

You know, as head coach is like, this guy's been on the roster for four or five years of this. This guy's been your star player for four or five years. And I had a down year. You're going to throw me away right now. There's been several down years. There's been several down years. J.P. Last year said last year was the best year.

That's what you said. You guys TP in my house. That's why it was the best year. Not because of smoothed over. We went out and we went to Spirit Halloween together. We went and got pumpkins together. we display. We got pumpkins and say, these are the personalities. Last year was a great year.

You can't look at this year and look at last year and be like, now both years are bad. This is not a great year. That was not a great year. Did it get better at the end? Yes. But do we know, like, hey, one blip on the radar? One blip on the radar is all of a sudden going to change last four or five years? That's how losing franchises continue to lose. We want to be a winning franchise. Let's not make it, let's not steam roll.

Let's not just, hey, this is a step at a time. Look at the mountain. Now look at the first step. Let's take the first step. That's November. I think we're going into a contract year. Going to a new contract year. New contract year. Is a contract year? We're re-signed for another year.

And we know, we know collectively the things we got to do to just continue to push this thing forward. He's a good player. He's a good player. He's a great player. We just franchise tagged him. We need one more. One more proof of year. Yeah.

You got to get good pieces around him. That's where he flourishes. Nope. And I'm sitting here saying, coach, fuck the new pieces. I can do this. Yes. I'm grabbing you by the caller. I can fucking do this.

I know. We all we, yeah. We don't need anybody else. We got everything we get to happen is right in here regardless of negativity. We're not gonna have negative. It's not not negativity. It's just a learning. This is a learning moment.

Sometimes we're gonna get a learning moment. The first three times. We're gonna get a chipper out there. Now it's just negativity. No, there's no negativity. I was like, hey, I learned from you're like, yeah, but, but I learned from it. Yeah, but. The goal is how do we make it better?

How many times you're gonna have the conversation, right? If you're explaining to somebody an issue and they say, I got it. Are you gonna continue to mansplain at them or are you gonna let them count a fucking, they say they got it, let me see if they actually got it. Yeah. Because I've got it. I understand. This is more for the team.

He's got to turn into Mitch's fandom. It's like, all right, crazy. But I understand what you're trying to say. Yeah, but it's also like Matt turning off the TV. It's like, all right, I still got it. Like, what are we doing here? At some point, I got to be like, hey, I got to defend myself now. Yeah.

This is, you are exactly what I need you to be right now. Okay. So we got you. We got the sport going. You want to talk about guys fighting in the fridge. We got it. We got it where we need it. People talk about Dylan Royola, broken fib, throwing out wristbands and shit. Like, no one's talking about Taylor 1 having gout on Thursday,

switching into eight different outfits. No one's talking about Taylor 1 having gout sitting on an airstrip of 45, 90 minutes way to take off in whether that could have taken out planes when we made to Nashville. No one's talking about Taylor Juan having got out with no medicine and his kids walking multiple miles during trigger tree and not flinching because his kids got. gotta have the trick or treat, all right? They know their dad's gonna be there.

They know this dad's holiday. All right? Yes, Saturday, November 1st, was I up on the couch with my foot elevated, hitting rice all day? Yes, I was. But it was because of a spooktober. It was for spooktober. Am I in pain right now sitting on this bus?

You bet your ass I am. But it was because of spooktober. So don't come at me and say my dedication is not there, all right? After I've said I've got it. And then you want to pile on. But boys, hey, let me tell you something about guys. out. It's no fucking joke. I wouldn't I I would probably wish us on my my worst enemy, but like people I just don't like I would not wish this on gout is horrendous.

How do you get rid of it? Diet like I used to think gout was like a for heavier set gentlemen who treat their body yeah like that treat their body like shit like I try to be pretty good in the health and wellness category especially as how many you know how many times you dive head first in a pile you guys stay ahead of the chains a little bit. I'm, I've treated my body like shit the last month. No doubt. There's been a couple of snickers laying around late at night in a dark alley, and I think you shouldn't be here all by yourself.

I go and take them boys down. I'm paying for it. I earn this. I have to essentially change my relationship with food because this is, like I hope you guys never have to deal with gout. It is. Is it something you have that's just like genetic to where you're diet? I don't know.

That'd be good for the comment section. Because I don't think my dad ever had it. I don't know anybody in my family ever talking about it. You know what I mean? It's just like a month. of just having some fun with some food. It's like, I do that all the time. I go a couple months like that.

Yeah. It'll like just, is it a constant pain or is it sharp instead? It's, dude, it is sharp. Like third, so Wednesday night, we get there, my foot was a little sore, which I didn't think much of of, go to sleep, wake up for like,

whatever, five, whatever I am for ESPN. Stand up, literally fall to the ground. I feel like a gunshot. Like similar to what you're talking about when you hit your foot injury. That gunshot going off in your foot. Like that fucking hurts. But a lot of,

lot of times gout's like very like acute it'll be in one little area your foot so you can overcompensate to like okay i'll just stay on like the outside of my foot and kind of alleviate that pressure this one for whatever reason it was like the whole bottom of my foot kind of like the middle area to where if i was going to push off it was just so painful and then through spian like it kept getting worse and worse and every time i had to go and change in different outfits i'm like in pain where i'm looking at jack going i'm in every commercial break i'm like dude i'm hurting so bad we get to uh Friday and I like it's kind of feeling better but after all that walking like the next day on Saturday I went to like get out of bed and I like literally it took me like 25 30 minutes to get out

of bed to where like Nathan worksman and tailen are in the room and I'm like like how can we help you I was like please just leave me alone like I feel so vulnerable right now in my underwear while you guys are trying to get me out of bed like I'm like crawling to the toilet just to take a morning piss like I would think to myself like I would drink I'll be on the couch get a bunch of water and I would think I got I kind of have to pee right now and I would be so afraid to stand back up and go to the bathroom that another 45 minutes would go by to where like I'm rushing to the bathroom but I'm in so much pain that like I'm borderline pissing on myself that's how much pain I'm doing to the dog I would have I would have there was a couple

times I was laying there and be like peeing myself right now over getting up is kind of a win that's how painful this was dude and it's like it's not like oh I lay down and put it up it feels better. It's like, I'll, any, like there's, it's discomfort all day.

And when I stand up, like, you would see the discoloration of my foot, to where my oldest, when she'd come out to me like, dad, why are your feet like completely different colors?

And like, my left foot would be like raised when I had both feet on the ground because there was so much swelling on the bottom of my foot. Dog. And it's like needles. It's like needles

like sticking in the joints of your feet. It's so painful. Do you not have like one of those carts from the ACL where you put up? No, but I had some crutches in the basement that Taylor went and got, but a lot of times with crutches, like, you'll put the injured limb down and, like, assist. I couldn't even put my foot on the ground. How did, like, hover? So I'm like doing, like, the kid thing where you're, like, swinging yourself all around.

Kids, toys everywhere. Because I got my two kids, and then Nathan has three kids that are all under four. So there's toys everywhere. It was a minefield out there. Yeah. The point where I just go to the man cave and just put my foot up and be like, hey, you guys enjoy the trip. I'll be in here. Just and then I fight like I'm a big like anti antibiotic guy like I don't want to take antibiotics.

I don't want to take like talon or anything. I eventually gave in and I'm just like I need it. So I'm like on a medial dose pack now. I'm on a uric acid. Yeah. I'm on all of it. And it's gotten better to where like literally if it was Saturday, if I was feeling the way I felt Saturday, I probably calling sick. I like would not be able to make it into work.

That's how bad it was. Like just sitting. I'd have to have it up. It was awful. It was awful, dude. Still is pretty bad. Yeah. It's honestly, it's crazy thinking like any injury that feels debilitating just feels like this is the worst thing that possibly. It's the end of the world. It's the end of the world for me, dude.

Even like, even like say I would, you know, strain my like UCL playing football and it's like in my elbow and you like can't do a pull up, you like can't really press against anything and you just think, God, this is the worst thing of all time. And it's like, well, would I rather have this or would I rather have a shoulder, or rather have a knee, a foot, a groin. And any time you're going through any of the injuries, you're like, this is just the worst pain of all the time. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, everything hurts. And it's like your foot starts to hurt, but then once you're in pain for a long time, like everything else just starts to hurt also. Like you start to feel like achy almost. It was a terrible weekend. It was awful. Tees and peas, man.

Still battling. Still battling right now. Am I actually in a sweat thinking about it right now? No, it's like a once a week thing for me right now. I got to reevaluate everything, bro. I got to, I got to relook at everything. It's just funny because I think you've been pretty good for the most part. Yeah, dude.

Yeah, I'm pretty good at my diet, exercise. This last month, though, I've kind of like let go with the reins and I've kind of only get like two workouts a week. I'll like, I'll see something in the corner. You know, Clump's wife brings in those pies. And I'm like, I'm not going to eat that. but then I get done with the two gambling shows. I'm like, kind of hunger I know, so you have a slice.

Everybody in the shop's talking about it, tastes and so good. Yeah, how good it is. And I'm just thinking, I got to, I got just, I got to get powerful about saying no to myself. Like, this is an internal battle. We might need to make like a morning lift group here at the shop, get over it with the sword next. Maybe, man. But it's also like, where are we going to shower? The issue is.

The smelly boys. Smelly boys. It's just holiday season's kicking up. It's all I'm going to get worse. The colder weather, now that we fell back, it gets darker sooner. Charmeda chocolate chip cookies last night. We had chili. Of course, I had two peanut butter sandwiches with it.

But it's just, it's that time of year. Leftover candy, like I've just been going to like Rue's little pumpkin, little bucket and just one at a time. Just every hour you just make your way over there and grab one. You know, it's a little mini. Eat this right now. Grab a second one. Eat the first one real fast and walk out of the laundry room with one.

Like, I had to get a piece of candy thinking that the first one didn't even count. Hey, that's so real. Yeah. Do you all do the Switch Witch with Rue? The what? The Switch Witch? The Switch Witch. I don't think so.

It's a little, it's a little, put you guys on game for when you have kids. They have their, they trigger treat. And it's like, hey, if you want to do the Switch witch, if you put out some candy, the Switchwitch would come in night and maybe bring you something. So it's kind of like, you get like a little $20 toy or something like that. And you switch out the candy so they make the decision. I'd rather have a toy. than candy.

And so you just kind of like get rid of that candy. Because I'm thinking I got to stay on the title. I can't let me read all this candy. Right. I'm going to eat all this candy. And dude. Yeah. Yeah.

With when we have had like Tylan saw this thing. Like if you don't, if you don't let your kids have like sugar for the first three years of their life. Like once they have sugar, their bodies, they'll know it's bad for them. And so the first can, the first piece of sweet,

Wynn ever had was from Will during Thanksgiving. Gave her a piece of crumbled cake or something like that. not a big deal, but she was like two and a half at that time where it's like, are we've gone long enough without giving win sweets? Her body is probably going to be like anti-sweets. There's probably none another child on this earth that is obsessed with sweets more than winness. It's like crack to her, dude. I mean, maybe, but she's eight, bro.

And I'm like, when you got to make a decision? She goes, I know it's bad for me, but I just can't stop that. We have like legitimate conversation. I'm like, honey, like you eat this candy. Like, it's going to be so bad for you. I know, but I just can't stop. She's like an addict. She's an addict.

Win is an addict, bro. And it's like, dude, you got to stop eating this candy because it's like she'll jump through hoops for a piece of ice cream. She'll jump through hoops for a little. Imagine you as a young lad. Like, that's just, you chase them sweet. Chase. It's like the high, bro.

It's high. And we saw that mostly at Disney World where it's like early morning to get to Disney World because we only had Friday and Saturday coming back Sunday. And we get up super early on Friday. And it's like, well, Taylor and I are having coffee. We kind of realize, like, you give them a couple pieces of shirt. Kind of resets their little, resets their energy a little bit. So we're kind of keeping them alive with candy, which is like the weirdest thing ever.

But the backfire the next three, four days, dude. It's like kids coming down. Like they're itching. They're moving around. Do you sure you don't got one more skittling there for me? It's like, we got to keep you away from the skittles a little bit. I feel like the way to get this happened to me for, little like when when when I was a kid I was like kind of like when once you get that you're

to that first dentist appointment and you got a cavity or like you need a filling like the pain from that would be like okay I can't eat sweets anymore because I do not want to go through that again that happens for what a couple weeks maybe I it's it you get back in that saddle hey hey no he's right he's right because we went in and win had a couple feelings she had to get in and it was like I'm not having sweets I'm not doing that and it was probably two weeks exactly and win's better in there. Like my pantry, I try to keep as clean as possible, but we'll get like these like healthy like chocolate things.

And Taylor's all about like lesser of two evils kind of thing. Like she's going to have the things in there, but I'll be like the healthiest version of the bad thing. My kids will sniff that shit out, dude. And, you know, sometimes I'll wake up a little later than they are and that fucking pantry is taken down. Step stools are put up.

These kids are, they're innovative, bro. The way they'll put up at the top shelf. They're fucking swinging. Catching it, getting it back. It's just crazy what they'll go. The lengths they'll go to. The lengths.

I respect it. I did too, but I was. Tell me all. Hey, look at me. You want your kids be better than me. Yeah, bro. It's tough.

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from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Spooktober's over, now the Tickle Turkey lives. The Tickle Turkey lives. Yeah, explain the Tickle Turkey.

So Tickle Turkey, I kind of got from one, Jack Conklin and the movie, Thanks Killing. Do you guys have you seen the movie Thanks Killing? Oh, is that the turkey. It's insanely. Yeah, it's a low budget cult film or whatever.

But the tickle turkey essentially is this. I will go and I'll tickle my kids. And every time I tickle my kids, I go, and that's the tickle turkey. Tickle turkey lives from November 1st to Thanksgiving. That's when the tickled turkey's a lot. That's the next killing turkey. Funny-ass movie, dude. The movie opens up with just a nipple.

Like, it's the funniest. It's hilarious. But, yeah, the tickle turkey's fun. He'll just kind of, Jack Conklin would do this after, after Halloween. Jack would just go in and like tickle other players. They're at the locker room, walk up behind him and just go boll-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-and. So once I had kids, I was like, bro, I got a, the tickle turkey's got to be a thing in my household. So now my kids, every time I'm around him, they're like, they're kind of doing this.

So the tickle turkey is just always active. Tickle-Turkey's always active, can always get you. He's not just going to come out, though, when you want him to. Like, Willow will be like, Dad, bring out the tickle-turg. He doesn't do that. but once she turns her back boom tickle turkey is it like a thing though to where it's like on uh uh what's it called uh leprechauncone day irish day st patrick's day st patrick's day to where if you're wearing green you don't get pinched no yeah there's there's anything you can be wearing to get you out of

there's nothing that protects you from the turkey if you wear yeah yeah if you wear i guess if you if you're wearing a turkey hat or a turkey shirt i guess you can't get you that's a fun little that's a fun wrinkle but the tickle turkey's out from november first to Thanksgiving. The day of Thanksgiving, I told well, I was like the turkey dies. We eat the tickle turkey. And then it's Christmas. Okay. So yeah, tickle turkey's out, boys. And that's for everybody in the shop, too. You can get tickled. Just know. Your boys can get God around here, huh? What are you going to say, JP? No, I have a, like, hilariously embarrassing story about similar to the tickle turkey. We were at this, like, party at one of our friends' houses, and there was this hallway that a bunch of the people were lined up in. And any time someone walked through the hall, they're tickling them tickle turkey basically so I'm like I want to be a part of this this would be funny and I don't know if they were just scheming on me the whole time and I'm like kind of first in the order and this girl comes walking through that we're friends with and I go and tickle her and nobody else goes and does it and I'm like and it wasn't ticklish so I'm just like oh my

dude yeah I know her but not like that close I'm like I'm sorry I mean they told me she's looking at you like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, do you have a, at the time? Like, you have a girlfriend. I'm like, yeah. Did you make any noise when you were trying to tickle her? I mean, like, I don't really know off top of my head. Just a silent.

But, man, I was so embarrassed. I was like, I gotta leave. This is a prank set up. Gigi, giz. Yeah. Like, what the fuck? What are you doing? How old are you when this happened?

This is like three years ago. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. No. No. It was so bad, dude Did you go for the armpits? Where'd you go?

Side. Armpits is crazy. Got to go for the side. Yeah, we're going to the side. Because if anything is a discomfort of people being insured with them little hips. Right. They'll be, ha ha, get a little moving in them. It was funny, though.

The tickle turkey, man. It's a fun. You should bring it to the Compton household. Oh, I will. Shit, all right. Roozing for some damage. Y'all think you can make me dress up as fear. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'll tell you he was in a bad position in our office is Derek. His back to that hallway. Like, he's, that tickle turkey's getting his ass a lot. He's got to wear a turkey. When we were, when I first started working here, Clump wanted me to have that desk spot.

And for that reason, you know, like you were walking to a restaurant, the old, like I have to have my back to the wall so I can see everything. Yeah. That's how I felt about that.

I was like people walking down the hall and I can't see him. That would freak me out. To this day, if I go, if I'm at a restaurant, I've always, prefer to have my back to the wall like what am i going to do like some sort of seal team six guy like

i'm gonna protect everybody in here i'm just gonna getting got you know you're back to the rest of the crowd's terrifying yeah i don't know how dare gets any work done in the shop yeah and he's he's clean yeah yeah never know what's going on are your uh christmas decorations up yet you know they are they're out they're at full force i not christmas decorations are like the in like spooktober's already down in my household like all the decorations like We had a crew of people come in November 1. I'm laying there on the couch, leg up. Dude, just everybody, 10, 15 guys just carrying shit.

I'm looking at it. I'm like, please just don't even fucking make eye contact me in this vulnerable state. But all this stuff is that lights are up now. And I know, bro, I know this is like a disgusting look to you guys. But I've just lost that battle in my household. I don't wear the pants. Like Thanksgiving's already happened in Canada. Talent's beating me down.

Like, have it. Take it. But yeah, it's a winter wonderland. I drive past my house. It's absolutely beautiful. The upside of it. Like if I had an optimistic outside of like disgust that your Christmas decorations are already up, it's just that you have the theme.

Like you have the vibe that you just yearned for when Christmas time does come. Or it's getting dark early. You got, you know, lights are on, living room. Just the ambiance of Christmas is just so pure and good. It definitely has a good, because like the front side of our house is all like white lights and then the backside of our house is more colorful 90s vibe. and outside of my master bedroom like there's like a bunch of little trees

that are all like in colored lights and it does give you that regardless of it being November 3rd when we're sharing this like you look at it and you're like yeah it does give you that cozy feeling yeah like if I'm you and I was battling and you're like trying to come to a middle ground it's we can do the interior of the house

but the Christmas lights on the outside don't go up until after Thanksgiving type of vibe because again it's like you at least you're in the vibe of feeling nice all warm and cozy with some lights and some decoral generations around. To be fair. To the public, like just an asinine.

Yeah. But to be fair to Taylin, having that feeling like what other feeling you're going to get between November 1 and Thanksgiving? Like, it's kind of like a dead spot because Thanksgiving is very much like a long weekend type of vibe as opposed to like a celebrated holiday throughout like a whole month period. So there is a level of like kind of cheating the vibe a little bit for an extra long time.

Because it's not, Christmas vibe is not one that kind of dies off as you get farther and farther down. like you're kind of enjoying it more and more and more as you kind of get up to christmas so it's kind of nice i've i've i've bent the knee and i've kind of like if can't beat them join them type of vibes yeah yeah don't not i mean jay don't you do that can't beat the canadian's join them that's what you kind of you saw what happened this past weekend with the canadians dodgers dodgers beat the blue uh the blue jays and i Quinn was texting me like hey we own hockey you're about to own baseball as well.

It's a totally different game. Like MLB, you have a couple of Canadian teams all good. But that was nice for the Dodgers to take that one. So I have that over my wife's family. It's become a complete rivalry ever since the Four Nations tournament. Yeah. Where it's like they kind of, they've been talking crazy to me ever since that Four Nations game.

And it's nice to have one. I don't really view this as one, but they kind of do. So it's like, yeah, we got you guys. Yeah, that is a fun. That's a fun family. Like for me, it's like I just got to wait to see a, pack y'all fights again. Yeah, there's not a whole lot.

No, there's this tennis. There's this tennis player. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's this tennis player. Yeah, we need to. But have you, did you guys watch that game? Yeah. Game seven?

Incredible. Like, I was, I had zero plans to even watch that game. And then Nathan, you know, he's a big baseball guy. I grew up in L.A. He's a Dodgers fan, but he's, he's the worst type of fan. You went to the game with him last year. With the game with him last year. it was his idea to leave.

He's the worst type of thing. Taylor was beating him up on the plane because he flew back with us from New York when we came from ESPN. Because I was kind of asking him, for whatever reason I thought he was like a Michigan State fan or we were talking football. He's like, I don't watch any football.

He's like, I am all baseball. So he was fired up for the World Series. But then Taylor was beating him up. He's like, you got me killed for leaving that World Series game last year. Yeah, because to me it was like, I checked the box of being there, but I've never been, like, since I've been 12 years,

I've never been like a base, I'm going to watch baseball. But like, going to a first World Series game, this is awesome. And it's so fitting that Nathan's like, you're tired, right? I'm like, I'm good. He's like, you're pretty tired. We should go.

It's like, all right, let's, yeah, I'll go. And as soon as we leave, like fireworks take off in that entire game. That's when Freddie Freeman had the walk off grand slam. Yeah. So we get to this year, Dodgers are back in it. That is Nathan Worksman's team. Like he grew up going to Dodgers games. They have a whole, they go to this one spot that all Dodgers fans go to.

They get these like Philly cheese steak type of sandwiches. I did the whole experience. He's looking at me saying, I hope Toronto wins. I'm like, bro, you grew up a Dodgers fan. What are you talking about? He's like, well, my team already won. It wouldn't be as fun for us to get another one. I'm like, no.

Like, you want your team to win another one because how cool it would be to that three Pete? Like, that's what it's about is like, you just want to win them all. And he was anti that. Anti. And bro. So he's room for the Blue Jays. He was rooting for the Blue Jays. Yeah, he's the weirdest fan ever.

And we were watching the game and it's the bottom of the ninth, whatever. The Dodgers score run to take it into. extra endings. I kept calling it overtime. He was laughing at me about that. He gets up. He's like, I got an early flight tomorrow. I'm going to leave.

I'm like, game seven, you're a baseball fan. Your team, who you're rooting against, just caused the game to go into extra endings and you're going to go to bed. And he's like, yes. He left and boat. That game was incredible. Was it Yamamoto? Who's the guy?

Yoshinibo. Yoshiniba Yamamoto. Okay, that guy I see you Mitch Dude, game six This Yoshanito Mamamoto guy Pitches 92 pitches

And plays an incredible game They're in game seven And it's starting to get in this Like are they Are the Toronto Blue Jays gonna run away with it Or the Dodgers gonna come back They get Yamamoto

Who's just thrown 92 pitches The day prior To come back in And finish the game And pitches three inings And it was incredible, bro Guys like five a lot throwing, like, after throwing all those pitches, still throwing like 97, 98, like just watching

the intricacies of like, he's down in the pitch count, then he's getting guys to chase wide, he's jamming guys in, it's like one of the most fun games ever. And then this Rojas was a Miguel Rojas? In the ninth of the, yeah, the ninth inning. Top of the ninth inning. They're down one. No one's on base. Miguel Rojas has not had a hit in all of the World Series.

hits a home run and they're now tied up Yamamoto comes in three up three down gets them off we're now in extra innings and then I think Yamamoto had all the Blue Jays had three guys

on base correct first second and third and they go broken back because they had that play at the plate that was like his foot comes off and goes back on and then Mookie Betts from shortstop

hits a ground ball steps on second wins the game by having a double play. Like, it was, like, probably the only time since I've been, like, 12 years old, I'm watching a baseball game, like, this shit is unbelievable.

It was a sick game, but the Dodgers winning is awful for baseball because... Why is that? Super rich franchise. Yeah, the biggest thing that's been going on. Are they the highest paid? Yeah, so Shohei, like, Shohei's contract alone is, like,

more than the entire Pittsburgh Pirates, like, payroll. Like, so it's these teams, like, the Dodgers' can just afford to pay all of this money to all of these players, but it's like not even fair. Like the pirates will never win a World Series. All of these lower tier teams will never win a World Series because they can't afford all these players.

Like that's why you see all of these really, really good guys going to the Yankees, going to the Dodgers, going to the Mets because they can afford to like pay them and like give them all this money. Because there's no cap, right? There's no cap. So that's what, but like it's bad for baseball in the sense of like this just continues to happen, but it's good for baseball in the sense of, okay, this is proven, like, that we may need a salary cap, but it's insane because Bryce Harper or like earlier in the season,

there was a- I saw that, yeah. There was a meeting about, hey, we're going to have a salary cap, and Bryce Harper went up and was like, if you're here to talk about a salary cap, get the fuck out of here because we do not, we do not want that. But it's like insane because it's just, imagine like the biggest market teams in the NFL always win and like the Titans they're the smallest media market have no chance to win whatsoever. Is there for any baseball guys, Jeff, you seem like you're itching to get in this conversation. For the baseball guys, is there a leverage play for the league to make it a salary cap?

Because it's, it just sounds like they just don't have, they wouldn't have the leverage. If you're a player, you don't want a salary cap, right? Yeah, if you're, if you're, if we're speaking for like if this was going down in the NFL, you'd want the biggest stars to be saying the same thing Bryce Harper's saying. Yeah. You want this conversation taking place in the NFL when it was Kirk Cousins getting a guaranteed contract. Right. You want, yeah, you're wanting your superstar guys, like, throwing their weight around to get basically no salary cap.

You just get paid as much as you possibly can. Yeah, so it's going to look, it's looking like that the MLB and the Players Association could possibly go in a lockout. And then it becomes basically the MLB will have a lot of more leverage going, hey, the Dodgers are. Is that the man right there? A great guy to come in on the conversation? She got to come in. How are we doing? What's up, brother?

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So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call. about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.

This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, Hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Fells, before we get into Tony Vitello, we got to finish off the episode. There is a new Buffalo Ranch sauce that has arrived at McDonald's. McDonald's is now a sponsor of Bustle with the Boys. Massive brand. Massive brand.

And what was that? Did we hear a little? Did somebody toot? That must have been, yeah, the Mickey D's. There's a new Buffalo Ranch sauce that has arrived at McDonald's, and it pairs perfectly with your snack wrap of McChrispy sandwich or those new McChrysky strips. I would like sure him speak to that in a second.

It's got the tangy zang of Buffalo with the creamy cool of mild ranch. It's mild and wild at the same time. It's a sauce that balances itself and compliments are crispy chicken. Fellas, look, the snack wrap jumps out at me. The McChicken or the McChryspy chicken sandwich jumps out at me. Bang. We're using this buffalo, this zesty, zangy tangy buffalo sauce.

Yeah. Mild and wild. I'll tell you what I used to love to do as a kid and I still continue to love to do now is going to that little, the regular cheeseburgers, the two for 99 cents deal that it used to be like to two cheeseburgers,

I would get max sauce on those things. This new little sauce we got talking about it, I think I'm gonna find myself in a drive-thru real soon, getting those two cheeseburgers, but go and put that zesty buffalo ranch on there. You know what I'm saying, kid. Yeah, sure.

You were just talking about the chicken strips of McDonald's. I have yet to have the chicken strips. I'm a big chicken nuggies guy. I've always loved the McDonald's chicken nuggies, right? That's the staple. But these new McChrispies, they are really, really good. I usually dip them in honey mustard. I have yet to try this new sauce.

I know what I'm having for lunch today. Big sauce guys. Today. Big sauce guys on the bus. And there's a-proved that with a photo too. Yeah. And they're Sherm Dogg. There's a new sauce in town at McDonald's, the tangy, creamy Buffalo Ranch,

order now. And there is this final bite segment that we're going to dive in. to of which something that we want people to be thinking about as they're dipping their sauce and eating whatever little combination they're going to have with this buffalo tangy tangy creamy buffalo ranch sauce. Ooh. Maybe a final take, maybe a take, a thought, something we want people to be thinking about going into this football weekend.

I like that. Do you mind if I go first? Go ahead, please. Something up the top of my head right now that we kind of talked about in the reaction show and I'm going to bring it over to the bus and intro part of the show is let's talk about the NFC East for a second. It's done. It's over. We might be in November, but as far as I'm concerned, the Philadelphia Eagles are taking that thing to run with it. It's over for the rest of that whole entire division because they're just falling back, back and back. So if we want to look at

playoff implications, I'm already going to go in not just pencil. I'm going to pen in the Philadelphia Eagles into being NFC East champions. So what you're telling me is you want Dallas fans at tune in, Washington fans of tune in, and Giants fans that tune in to be sad, dipping their McCrispy streams in this Buffalo tangy sauce, thinking that this season is over for us. I know what the golden arches has provided to this beautiful country for many, many years. And if he can cure one thing, it's broken hearts. And the broken hearts of the commanders, the Cowboys and the Giants, listen, Giants, I think you've got nothing to be upset about. Like, you lost Cam Scadaboo, but Jackson Dart, quarterback of the future, Dayball saved his job. Cowboys, yeah, I can see you guys

getting sad because you have a Super Bowl caliber offense, but your defense. defenses poo poo, poo. Now you look over at the Washington commanders and you just dislocated your best quarterback's elbow when you're down 387. Those two have a lot to be sad about. The Giants, you can go over and hit that drive-thew, get that zesty buffalo ranch. And you're going to feel all right about having the McChicken strips, what are they called? The McChryspie strips. McChryps. And the Eagles too, grease the poles, greased me up, send me to make these. You know what I'm saying? Get you some of the, get you a little happy meal,

you know what I'm saying? I like that take. I like it. I'm having fun with it. And, you know, I was dating the Cowboys for a minute. I was in love with the Cowboys for a hot second. But that flame burned bright. Now I'm kind of thinking to myself, boys, it's time to back up. We've got to get out of this toxic relationship and just realize the Eagles are going to keep flying. This new Buffalo Ranch that people are going to be dipping into this week, I want Husker fans to think about this. T.J. Latif.

Over 300 all purpose, over 300 yards through the air, combined through the air, and on the ground. Through the air combined to the air. Yeah, T.J. Lateef going out to UCLA night game. Going to be tough getting up after this emotional loss to the USC Trojans. As you were in Sad Boy season, thinking about what's T.J. Lateef going to do this weekend. I'm telling you right now, it's over 300 yards. It's so funny you say that. Because do you know what Lateef is French for?

Buffalo sauce. Zesty Buffalo Ranch. That is actually what it's French for. Yeah. Hold on my. I think Google that real quick make sure but I'm I took French in high school yeah it's yeah buffalo ranch creamy buffalo ranch lateef latif and when he does 9 and 3 is alive and well buddy 9 and 3 has never died no fibula is gonna stop 9 and 3 in Nebraska corn huskers

that's mine do you have gentlemen do you have any back there final bite going into the weekend As you're dipping into that creamy buffalo ranch sauce, just think to yourself real quick. Could 40-year-old Joe Flacco win the MVP? You're in the MVP? Just think about it as you're tasting that sauce, eating the McChrispies. Could he win it? Something to think about.

Be in the conversation. Have a conversation. Ignore everything else that's happening in the NFL world. Then just focus on Flacco, Joe Cool. 700 yards of last. two games. Joe Flacko. Mine is separate of football.

Is that against the rules? It feels like it is, but go ahead. Insulated denim jackets are back. That's what the people are saying. Really? And just as you're dipping those McChrystriety strips.

Somebody might have an insulated, what are they? Insulated denim jacket on right now. Dipping. Oh, bro, there's denim in a denim? Come on. And just think about it as you're dipping.

Like, we're not wearing enough denim right now. Denim's like, I think it's back. I don't have any denim on right now. That's how kind of naked I feel. After you talking about that, if there's an individual out there that is listening to this thinking, I'm dipping in denim right now,

please tag us in a photo. Tag us in a photo. Tag us in a photos. We'd love to see you dip it in denim. Hashtag denim dipper. Yeah. You know what? That's my favorite take. That is my favorite take.

And I think we need as bustle with the boys might need to go to a McDizzles. Set the tone for a dipping in denim. Hashtag dip it in denim. Yeah. See what we can do. Or just go, you just, we get a photo together and we just drop it no caption. And the tier one sickos know. They let the world know that we're doing what?

Denim, denim and dipping. Nope. Dipping and denim. Set it enough time. Set it enough times for you to remember. I'll do it with a-diffing and denim. Or dipping and denim. Or dipping in denim.

By the way, this new buffalo sauce available for a limited time at participating McDonald's while supplies. Are you serious? Yeah. Yeah. I think it's going to be a hit. Yeah. This is a sauce country. Think of all the things that McDizzles has done back in the day

that has been hit over hit, like nostalgia, but the McRib, the McFlurry. The smell of hot breakfast. Oh, pancakes. You open that thing up, dude. It's like, what? This is a fast food place? I don't know. It's fine dining out here, man.

It's incredible. Syrup sauce? The Egg McMuffies. Dude, the McGrittles. Let me talk to you about a McGrittle. Let me know about the McGrittle. I would have this, it was basically A-plus hour in high school as a senior, to where A-plus, you could, if you were gifted this luxury,

you could go off-campus and go to, for me, it was middle school. I would go and shadow my eighth-grade football coach in his, like, health PE class. I don't even know because I never went to it. He would just give me the sign. He'd give me what I needed. And me and a couple of my boys, we'd rip over to McDonald's, and it'd be like our breakfast every morning, second hour. And we'd pull in and we talk about this cashier behind the register as he's like a rivals recruit like he's like a five star

He understood the game and the operation of McDonald's we thought he should own one one one day because of how much work this guy put in But we get the the little breakfast burritos the little two for Fire by the way little chunks of sausage in there We get the meal with the McGrittle and I would unpack that thing like there's a like I was in the dark and a candle was next to my nightstand and I would be unpacking this McGrittle I I'd pick it up. We'd have this foreplay. We'd do with it where I'd smell it. I'd just, I'd take the entire environment in before I took a bite of the McGrittle.

And taking a bite on that McGrittle, I don't know if you can hear my voice right now, but my mother's watering. My body. That voice said like a faucet. Talking to a faucet right now. We would throw rose sparks in and just enjoy a good thing. In seventh grade? No, I was a junior senior in high school.

Okay, okay. I thought you said something about middle school earlier. that was my football coach and we'd enjoy every day second hour it'd be where we going we know we're going that was a stupid question dumb throw up uh what is it uh stone sour looking at you through the glass i'm looking at you through the glass don't know how much time has passed oh god it feels like forever no one never tells you that forever feels like home Getting all alone inside your head. That was...

How do you feel? So much to question. Yeah, dude, I know that one. We throw that tune on. I actually do know that one. I just don't know that one. We throw that tune on. Or to be hindered, touch like an angel.

Touch like an angel? Kiss like an angel? Lips of an angel. Honey, why you're calling me so late? It's kind of hard to talk right. Those would be the bangers. You guys just took me back to a moment. My girls in the next room.

Sometimes I wish it was you. I guess we never really moved on. That was good. That was really good. Want to hear you of us? Saying my name. It sounds so sweet. People tuned in.

They're like, God, we can't wait to listen to Tony Vitello. Yeah. But they didn't know if they start dipping in denim. That's what they didn't know about, dude. Can I just give you, I know Will just told a cute little story. Can I just give you mine real quick? Young three, four-year-old Luan, all right, just freshly into Scottsdale, Arizona. My father, he worked late hours.

He worked early mornings as well. But every Saturday, your young Taylor-Lawan would get up at the crack ass of dawn, around 5.36 a.m. And right around the corner from my house was, what? I'm McDaisels. And my dad would take me across the one-on-one. Sit in that McDizzles. Get me a couple of them pancakes.

couple of them breakfast brewers. I don't even believe the McGrittle wasn't even a thing at this time. All right, we're talking about 90s, babies. And I would sit there and my dad would read the morning newspaper with a McDonald's orange juice

while I ripped apart that ball pit alone because ain't no kid got the luxury I did on a Saturday morning that my father gave to me when I was just a young buck, man. So shout on McDee's. Keeping families together since 93. Keeping families together since 93.

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Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. We were just talking baseball. Yeah. Just talking about the Dodgers. Wild Game 7, Wild World Series. Yeah. And then we're, oh yeah, toss that over here.

So let's start with the first. Let's start with a gift. Thank you so much. Let's start with a gift. I know you just left. Yeah. But this just got, I think we just got this approved. We just got a licensing deal with the University of Tennessee to like make these hats.

And we want to give you the first one. Yeah, I still want to. represent. Got a lot of blood, sweat and tears with that recruiting class that's there now and I guess coming in too. God. So on this conversation, what were you going to ask? What was the consensus on the Dodgers deal? I'm not a massive like baseball guy. Like I'll watch the Cardinals if they go to the playoffs and stuff and get fired up with everybody else. But they're sitting there breaking down the World Series game. I caught until they went the extra innings and then that's where I went home because Nebraska just lost the USC. So I needed to go home and go to bed because I was miserable. But

Mitch is saying like L.A. winning is bad for baseball because of how much money that they have to afford the team. I mean, I think it's great to have. You put that, Mike, a little close to your face. Sorry. You just get thrown in the fire right there. And right away, new manager. New Mexico is going to be a diet. Yeah. First question. The Dodgers. I got gifts. Anything I say about the Dodgers is certainly going to be of interest in San Francisco. But no, this is a pretty badass setup. I appreciate you all having me. And I think, you know, whether it was the Yankees back in the day with baseball or it's

the chiefs and football, I think it's good for sports in general and the sport that's in specific to have kind of a target or a standard that's set. And it's college now, too, like it or not, money talks. And it's going to be a big part of it. But you can't just buy your way to a championship. There's still got to be the right people in place. And then eventually, too, those people got to, you know, make the plays. And I'm sure you guys were diagnosed in that game.

There were a million different plays that could have went one way or the other. And then you get stories, too, of people rising up. One pitch it could have went the other way. And now you got the Blue Jays. You know, the Brewers were kind of trying to do this, the little engine that could. And obviously those teams got stud players too. But it's fun to cheer for the underdog. And then it's also, it's good to have that, you know, enemy number one.

Like villain. You know, Americans, I think, are hard workers overall. But it's a lot easier to, it's a little late. lazy and a lot easier to cheer for who the best is. Yeah. You know, so there's always going to be people that pick aside. I think, you know, I'm not at Tennessee anymore, so I don't say it arrogantly, but our 22 baseball team was one that a lot of people just picked aside.

They either hated them or they liked them. And I think overall it was good for college baseball. Oh, 100%. Because you're getting to join up with who is the psycho that has all the celebrations? Drew Gilbert. Yeah. Psycho. loves being choked from the video they showed us in the pre-production meeting.

That could be diagnosed a lot of different ways. Yeah. There's going to be a therapist in the back end of that career at some point, but you've got to love what's going on right now. He's in the dug-out, like humping the dog out. Yeah, slapping the side. Some dudes are just walking up to him, choking. He's just loving it.

Like, this is the type of cat you want around. Yeah, no doubt. It'll be a good bridge for me. Obviously, I'll be learning a lot on the fly. But to have someone like that in your clubhouse, no matter where you're at, you constantly have energy. and our sport has a bigger sample size than any other.

So it's very repetitive. And if it's boring or there's lack of personality, it's not going to be fun to come to work come August or later in the season. Is that something too? Like when you were with Tennessee, it's like you guys did have kind of this bad boy image, but just allowing your players to be themselves to kind of keep that energy during all those monotonous repetitive days?

I think so. I mean, I think now you've got 162 games. You've got to do it. Yeah, it'll be different. That's for sure. and during the press conference, the first question out of the shoot was reminding me that I, not only not in the big leagues as a player, wasn't even close, but haven't been in pro ball. So I don't know what I don't know. But yeah, every day for us in the fall and in the spring in college was a new day. And you try and some are better or more entertaining than others, but it's a blank slate. And you try and make it something fun and something memorable. And, you know, there's nothing more fun and memorable than winning. Yeah. How did the conversation, how did this job even happen? Right? Because this is the first head coach of a college football team, a college baseball, college baseball team to become a manager at MLB team. Is that, am I correct in saying that? Yes. And so how did this conversation start? Do your agent call you? Say, hey, by the way, the giants are looking at you. Like, explain to me the process. Yeah, it was a little bit, it was organic. And if you really reflect on, it was kind of drawn out because the conversations have always gone on with college coaches and big league teams, especially in the summer.

And, you know, I remember taking a call on our guy, Gavin Keelan. He was the second basement shortstop for us. The Giants took him first overall, one of our best players this last year. So there was a lot of conversations, not just about him, but like what's going on with our program? How do you guys like to do things? Just idea sharing. And then with Drew Gilbert also came over Blade Tidwell, one of our pitchers. They were both involved in that trade. So, hey, what can you tell us about these guys? And so with those conversations, a little. bit of a co-op started there. And then, you know, I don't know who gets full credit. I mean, Zach, the GM, Buster is obviously, you know, in charge as well. Somewhere along the line, someone floated the idea of basically trying something new. And San Francisco is about as innovative. I mean, there's AI stuff everywhere, buildings and corporations. And so just an innovative idea. And I feel blessed to be the guy, but I'm also the guinea pig. Yeah, that is true. We'll see how it goes.

I'm sure it's going to be hard to just hammer your ego. But what do you think it was for San Francisco and the things that you're doing or the things that they were hearing that dove deeper into getting you to San Francisco? I think, and it's easy to be humble because I think it was more the concept. And so I was a guy who maybe fit that profile.

So we're going through that now with trying to hire a coaching staff is what's the profile we want and then pick out of a group of guys that maybe fits that profile. And it was something new. Pat Murphy has been looked at, I think. I mean, I don't get on social media a lot, but Pat Murphy's a former college coach at Notre Dame at Arizona State. And now he leads the Brewers to, if I'm not mistaken, the best record in MLB baseball this year.

And he's kind of got that more, I don't want to say, it's not really about college versus pro ball, but just a little more of the old school coach men. mentality when coaching his team. You know, when we grew up like you knew Bobby Bobby Cox and I could, Wighty Herzog where I grew up in St. Louis, like he was a manager that everybody knew and there was a certain approach to it where his teams all kind of have the same culture. And I think baseball is swinging back a little bit towards that coach deal as opposed to the analytic guy in the office. Yeah. Moneyball. Yeah. Is it like that old school?

Is it like old school too kind of mixed with a younger, like a younger swole? swag. You know what I mean? Like I would say you're like a young, you're like a young thundercat kind of coming up into this situation. I think energy, I think when you're around guys like Drew and then our fan base, like a lot of times are the fans at Tennessee are about as good as it gets. And so when they come up with an idea, whether it was yours or not, you're kind of, if you're wearing orange, you're involved in it. So I think people think I got a lot more swagger or confidence than I truly do. I mean, if I was more confident, I would have been a better freaking player. But I'm fortunate to be in the dugout with guys like that.

And so I don't know that it's more swagger. I think naturally what I do have is energy. Like at the field, it just is, it's a vibe. It's fun to be there. And so I think it's more of an energy thing. And again, winning will bring about swagger more than anything. So hopefully that's a case. There's some good players on the roster.

But I think energy is a part of it. Yeah. Just a Missouri boy doing it big, man. Doing it. How much time have you spent in San Francisco so far? It was really three days with the press conference and again trying to hire some staff and things like that. But when I was younger,

I played college ball in a summer league out in Salinas, California. Small town, great people, just south of San Jose. And a guy that played for my dad, Bill Miller, if you've watched the specials on the Red Sox coming back from 3-0 against the Yankees. He's actually the guy that gets a hit off Mariano Rivera to start the first comeback game and then ultimately they win. Bill was with the Giants. So we'd go watch and play, get free tickets,

and you're in what I thought was the coolest park I'd ever been in and you get to explore the city. And fortunately, Twitter didn't exist then. And I didn't have a job, so there's a little bit more free reign. A little bit more free reign. Yeah, it's a pretty cool area. So now what's the process for you? Are you selling, are you keeping a place here in Nashville?

Definitely in Nashville, for sure. This place is phenomenal. whether it's, you know, just running into you guys like at the restaurant or the grocery store. I'm sure you get bothered everywhere. So sorry if I bother you guys too. But running into you guys, the connection with country music, some friends I've formed. You're in the middle of the country. So both coasts are kind of accessible.

This is just a phenomenal place. So, yeah, definitely looking forward to stick into a place here. And probably even the fans were awesome to me at the football game Saturday. So as long as that continues, I'd like to still be in Knoxville a little bit. I mean, like I said, I mean, the other coaches had a lot to do with it, but for the next three or four years, I'm going to be pretty closely tied to some of those players. Yeah. What are the biggest differences in being like the head coach of a college baseball team and then being a manager in the MLB? I think just that recruiting, you can have a voice maybe with trades or a free agency.

And I think that's, you know, something that pro players look at is what park do I want to play in, what city I want to live in, what coaches. So it's not like recruiting completely goes away. but you're not in charge of your roster anymore. Which hell, free up some more time to go to UFC or, you know, whatever it might be, maybe. But then, too, the amount of sample size. And then the kids you work with in college are so impressionable. They'll latch on to about anything you'll give them. And I haven't, again, I don't know what I don't know, but I assume a 35-year-old that's in the big leagues for a while.

He's pretty much got his system figured out. Yeah. And so it'll be a little bit different of a co-op or relationship there. Yeah. With, when you got the news that you were going to be the next Giants manager, I'm going to have a hard time not saying head coach. How do you tell the Tennessee team? Yeah. No, my non-frees or non-baseball friends are all like manager.

Like, are you managing a Walmart? You're the head coach for the title manager. Yeah. Skipper, you know, our pitching coach, Frank Anderson would always call me Skipper. And it's kind of, I don't know, I kind of like that comment. So whatever it is, you're serving that role of writing out the lineup, you know. So it's interesting. I, I get, with recruiting, you have to respond to every email and every text possible.

But I had to give up on my phone. So I apologize to everybody. And one of the first texts was nice, but also sarcastic. I think from you is basically like, I miss you and love you or so. I don't mean to put words. I think I said I'll miss you. I sent you when they was starting to be like, hey, they're closing in on a deal. Yeah.

I sent him the link from Twitter. just put I'll miss you forever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So sorry to throw the love out there. It was a little aggressive. But I bring that up just because how this thing broke was very unconventional and it's the day and age we live in. We were not, we were not even at a point where I was going to make a decision. And this news broke on a football Saturday in the middle of one of our scrimmages that I was going to do this. And our assistants were like, you know, I had kind of kept any of the conversations out of the locker room because it can only be a distraction, especially with recruiting. Yeah.

And now if it was going to get to a point where this is something I really got to decide on, I was going to involve everybody. Well, that all got skipped over by a tweet or what, again, I'm not on there, but I think, you know, Ken Rosenthal or somebody. And I've had a couple people apologize to me like, hey, I just got a job to do. They get word that talks are at least serious. And now all of a sudden it's like you're doing it. And so I got these texts on.

Saturday, like, I don't know if it's true or good luck. And I'm like, I don't even know how to respond. So that, the initial reaction is you're, you're probably pissed off. Yeah, I was. So I was kind of, because mine, I'm thinking, like, if this, if this profile is posting about it, it seems like this is going to happen. Right. Right. It's like, congratulatory, like, hey, I'm going to miss you forever. But now that makes sense on the no response. You're probably like, who in the fuck is leaking this stuff? Well, I was trying to watch Alabama, Tennessee. And I, I'd, I'd thought about going to the game with a donor after our scrimmage. And when this popped, is like, well, I'm not going anywhere.

And I just sat and was watching the game and it's on the ticker. And I even kind of quit watching the game a little bit, to be honest with you. And I just, for the night, kind of shut it down. And then the next day, some things picked up. Ironically, it ended up being instead of one conversation with the team and being like, this sucks and crying and everything. It was a three-parter, and it gave those guys time to share their thoughts on it a little bit with me, including our coaching staff. And, I mean, this is a tough setting to break down and cry, so I won't do it here.

We've cried a lot of this boss. Okay, all emotions are welcome here. Yes, 100%. Like, I will forever be grateful the way those kids texted me, talked to me in person, and then the way the coaches basically said, do what you got to do. And that really opened up the freedom to think about it selfishly, just like, what do I want to do as opposed to how is this going to impact other people? Yeah. So, waiting on some tears.

Not let it flow. You're trying to go to Barbara Walters approach. It is very hard. I'm assuming being in your spot, even as a player, like if I'm a player on your team and I absolutely love you, it's like when Coach Eccler left Nebraska, he recruited me there. Yeah. And whenever he left to go be like a co-devenceive coordinator or something at Indiana, and he's kind of telling the linebacker room after practice around like the 30 yard line.

Like we're all breaking down because you're like, fuck, man. A part of you comes to a place for a staff or for a guy and you're galvanizing around this roster. So I can only assume how hard that was on trying to be like, you don't feel like you have the freedom to think selfishly. You have so many people involved. Some of them aren't tipped off. Now they're finding out on the internet.

How do I even approach this conversation? Because I know there's going to be broken hearts. It's broken. I'm assuming you're broken heart. It's just, it's tough. And you're sitting in a situation where you haven't made the decision yet. And it seems like the decision has been made for you. Yeah.

Publicly. And now you have to go put out what you're assuming is a bunch of fires and you're met with like, it seems like empathy and love. Yeah. No, it affected things greatly. And at the end of the day, it was a difficult decision. And if, you know, props to any college coach out there, Coach Eccler's a stud and back in Nebraska now.

But when you switch in college, you don't get to breathe for a year minimum, just because of the nature of the turnover. And now I'm in this weird stage where it's not like we're hiring a staff. There's work to be done, press conference, all that. But it's not that drinking from a fire hose that you have. So in a bad way, it's freed up a lot of time to just reflect on those relationships and things like that. And it's tough. But, you know, staying in motion is a good thing.

You guys are doing what you're doing because you guys are constantly kind of pushing the envelope. And shoot, Dana White did what he did. When no one else was doing anything active, he got active. and now he's reaping the benefits of it. And I don't know that the sport would be that popular if he didn't push the envelope during COVID or during a time where people weren't in motion. So hopefully, who knows how this thing will go,

but I think staying in motion is healthy and hopefully it'll benefit me. Again, kind of a selfish decision. But Tennessee will be right. There's some players in that dugout the next few years. Future Giants. Yeah, I'm all for that. That's going to be a touchy sound.

I bet that's going to be hard for you too, Lucas, are you, now as a manager, you're not the GMs. You're not pulling the trigger on draft picks, correct? Correct. But you sit there and you're like, hey, this guy, and you're the one evaluating the ball players as well, I'm sure there's a level of bias you're going to have to fight. If I'm a player, I'm hitting them up. Hey, listen, I have.

A little higher, a little more money. But I think the Giants organization has always been very well thought of and kind of a family vibe. So far, it's been enormously welcoming to ideas. and into working together. So I think all of us are going to have a voice when it comes to stuff like that. But like the decision, you were talking about being skewed because of personal feelings or stuff that's out there, probably got to be a little careful about not loving on those guys too much from my standpoint.

Yeah. Yeah. That is. Was there ever a point when this news starts to break where you're like, fuck it, I'm just going to stay here? Did you like, was there ever that much second guessing involved? Yeah. When that first hit, it was like, you know, any competitor kind of bows up when someone tells you one thing that it's not true or you don't believe in it. You bow up and want to do the other.

And so I got good advice from a guy who was a mentor of mine, Sean McCann's name. And he's like, dude, just take a time out. You don't know where that came from or why. And so it was good to kind to take that night to reset. And then, you know, it's like these kids I talk to on the phone with college decisions. I mean, when you're getting recruited by SEC schools, you can't really choose wrong. I mean, you're going to think it if you're working at Tennessee and they choose Mississippi State or, you know, South Carolina or whatever. But the only way to make a decision right is just to move forward and make it the right one. So no going back now.

Was getting in the MLB always like a North Star for you? Never, just because I didn't think it was possible. I mean, I knew enough as a son of a coach that I wasn't skilled enough, that that wasn't going to happen as a player. And then I always thought, one of the reasons I went to Missouri and walked on University of Missouri was I always thought you pretty much, and this is true for the most part, you finish or you coach where you finished playing, like that level. And I know there's exceptions. So I took a big risk and walked on at a Division I school because that's what I wanted to do. But having never even been in Pro Bowl, I didn't think it was possible.

And then the last couple of years, some conversations have started where the interest was peaked. And, you know, I'd hate to finish coaching without at least trying it. Yeah. Were there any other MLB teams? You said in the last couple of years that were interested? Nothing significant, you know. You mentioned agent, you know, Jimmy Sexton's got his hands full now since every... He's your agent?

Yeah. But that's... What the baseball is. Let's back up. That stems more from a guy... You don't know how it leaked. Well, that stems from more of a friendship and a tie. He went to Tennessee.

So that's kind of more. And, of course, baseball is not... It's become more his field. And really, he's impacted the game in a great way. He gets a lot of credit for... coaching salaries and where the trend is going right now. So kudos to him. But that's kind of how that relationship worked out. Obviously, he started with Reggie White and he's been in football. And man, these guys, I can only imagine how much you guys have discussed college football. This

firing guys in the middle of the season. Dude. That's crazy. I get it. But I get it. But it happened at an SEC school baseball-wise. And I wasn't there. So I'm not talking ill about any decisions. But you looked at a schedule this guy had in front of them. It's like, this team is going to win a lot of games. And if you get in the postseason, anything can happen. But they get rid of the guy in the middle of the year. And again, the schedule got a little more favorable. They had good players. Just you guys are athletes, the season has a lot of ebbs and flows. And I've been on teams, especially two out of the last three years of Tennessee. We started out really weak and we finished really strong. This past year,

we started out like a ball of fire. And we finished okay, but we were doing so well at the beginning. everyone thought we were just going to steamroll everybody. So a season is an entire body of work. And I get it. It's a different sport. You guys know it better than I do. But right now is wild. And Lane Kiffin can only take one job out there.

Or stay or stay. Or stay. Or yes, or even stay. It is nuts. It's like we were talking about it. What is it? Arkansas, Auburn.

LSU. Florida. Florida. With Liceway Ole Miss. With Lane Kiven Talk, Ole Miss. Yeah, that's an insane. and then not to mention still more jobs to go.

Still more jobs to go. Relax with that. A lot of ball. Lot of ball out there. Not saying Michigan's out there. I'm just saying, Hey, hey, hey, what are you doing?

You know, never know. Now he's just doing the thing, Shere. We shot a reaction show a little bit of going. We're really having a good conversation about football and college and little all these head coaching jobs. Then I start talking about Michigan and how like I want to see the passing game develop.

Sure. He's like, a lot of head coaching jobs open out there. I'm just like, yeah, what are you doing? Harsh. That's harsh. Well, if anything, you got Morgan Wallen coming to the stadium. Yeah. Was that July? Yeah. That'll be nice. That'll be nice to see. Zach Bryant, he did that, set the record, and now Morgan's like, not on my watch. The big house. That place gets rowdy, huh?

There's a lot of them there. Yeah. I think that's probably Michigan's biggest knock on a game day atmosphere. It's not very loud for how many people are in the building. Yeah. But I think it's a structural thing. It has to be. Can't have $150,000 in there. It's sprawling. Tennessee straight up. It's like it is a way different sound. Tennessee, LSU, A&M we went to, Nebraska, even 92,000 there.

Yeah. It's very, very loud. Then you go to Michigan and kind of just bows out a little bit. Sure. We were talking about this before. If you just take the sweets that they were putting in when I first got there, if you just kind of put those in next to the big screens and then take out the wood and put in aluminum,

they've changed the game right there. A couple hundred mill. That's all you got to do. I don't know why they wouldn't outsource you for this information. This is it, man. I got a lot of good ideas. What happened in Tennessee against Oklahoma? I don't know.

That was rough. And even more rough was trying to keep one eye on the TV of watching Game 7 and then watching the game as well. But, you know, I was up there. Peyton and those guys can break down football better than I can. But it was just a real frustrating game. And, you know, people seem to be a little sour on our defense. But I don't know. You win and lose as a whole team.

and, you know, Coach Heipel's always done well with the offense and the quarterbacks, and the vibe is always good over there, you know, in the building. So it's the SEC, and it's the same for you guys, too. I mean, when it's that high level of competition, it can go one way or the other. And unless you're in the locker room, you don't know if there was a vibe that swung it one way or the other. And we were just talking about the chaos and people, just these emotional decisions on firing coaches midyear. It's like after the Oklahoma game, even Heipel's name's getting brought up in Lane Kiffin coming back to Tennessee. It's just guys, we've got to call them.

Relax. Yeah. I'm sure. I'm sure. Lynn Kiffin's going to make $50 million a year. So he's got a bidding war going crazy right now. I'm sure he's been known to get back with an X or two. But there's something to be said for consistency.

And when I was coming up at Missouri, I spent more days on the bench that I did on the field, unfortunately. But I knew I wanted to coach. I was surveying. It's like, what's consistent about some of these best programs? And a lot of it was that word consistency. When a group can stay together and build some synergy and keep things. going, you know, the recruits stay on board and relationships with the donors. I think there's a lot to, maybe because I'm defensive of coaches, but there's a lot to be said for riding out some storms

and giving somebody some freedom because if you're in our league or one of the best leagues in the country, you're going to take blows. You're going to dish out blows, but you're going to take something too. What's the consistency look like? Like this will be a very broken question, but I'm very curious, like you being a player and you've got to spend more time on the bench, unfortunately, than playing. But as you're observing, what is the consistency? like what are the things that in your mind you're trying to build a resume or a portfolio for for you knowing you want to be a coach what are things you're seeing like when you are in the locker room as a player that you're observing that's like I'm going to take some of these things

knowing that I've experienced it as a player into coaching I think probably even on the sheet of what to do is even on the sheet of what not to do and you know how to approach guys and what freedom to give them reaction-wise, you know, the freedom to be who they are. You kind of mentioned that earlier. That's all good, but it's got to be under the framework of the team. So it sounds real vague and real easy to say, but balance is huge. And like I said, that balance sheet of learning and watching probably equal to what not to do is just as valuable. And there's just as many lessons learned there as what to do. You're probably learning it too in real time. Like a coach might have a wrong message of trying to address something. It'd be like, I know my teammate or this

player he's not taking it kind of the correct way this could be a way to get the messaging that the coach wants across and you know mixing it in with kind of the player mentality i've always been fascinated with that because i my thought if i wasn't podcasting as i was i would get into coaching so i'm just not too late it's not too late i know you never know man it look if rule can't get it done you know willy see me five six more years with this man he can go do what he wants after that i'm really enjoying doing busts with the boys right now just needs me it's like give me a couple more that is that's a real thing too. That's a thing that could happen in the next couple of years is maybe like the linebackers don't do well in Nebraska and they will call Will the hey can you just coach

the linebackers for a couple years. That conversation is real between me and Will. We've had the conversations of like if you go, what's our game plan? I think it should be. I mean, I mean as far as the thought of who to hire as a coach, so many times, you know, that I've been a part of interviews or co-workers and we're kind of doing this now. We just talked to a guy. I was like, I'm thinking about just quitting my job and starting a company with this guy. Like it doesn't matter. if it's working at a pizza parlor or tech industry or coaching or podcast like this guy would be good and I think you know there's some similar traits for people that are successful across the board and like I said fortunately or unfortunately I was sitting on the bench a lot so I didn't have any skills in

but I got to watch a lot of people that I think had that set of skills you had a good correlation what uh or the nerves like and stuff as you're interviewing for this job in the MLB you know because This is a different, like, first ever. It is. Well, the other thing is you're talking to Buster Posey, and that's a guy that I had started coaching, but I looked at him, you know, in college and watched him in college almost as a fan. And then to see what he did in Major League Baseball, he's one of the biggest winners ever in pro sports. And I know that was the concept of bringing him on and making him a part of the front office now.

So to talk to him, I mentioned to Jimmy a couple times, like, hey, you, you got to let me talk to some people other than Buster because it's impossible not to talk to him and see him for who he is. You know what I mean? And just keep it normal and regular. So that was a big part of the process. But I guess when you're in a good position, and I didn't hand in a resume or seek this out, it kind of presented itself to me. So I felt rock solid in what was going on at Tennessee and, you know, new stadium being built there. And the next couple of recruiting classes are ranked real high for whatever that it's only worth so much but yeah um so that i think that kind of changed the tone of it yeah now that you're out of it how is the n i'll speak on the n i'll how has it been

changing the game in college athletics uh particularly at a baseball level yeah it's a disaster um i i'm in this weird again we all have thoughts that are probably you dream a little bigger than i kind of have this weird fantasy or vision of like okay Can college and MLB merge together a little bit and help each other? And I wouldn't be the main, you know, I certainly shouldn't be the patron of either, but I could connect the right people and get this thing where it's a little more fluid, but the one part MLB can affect is just where NCAA sports are in general. And it's just a mess.

And I would say the biggest, I'm doing this off the cuff, hopefully no one wants to slash my tires, but it's like you're driving in the fog. and you can't really see but about 100 or 200 feet in front of you. And you know, you're grasping for what's real, what you can do, what you can't do. And again, I'm sure someone will throw out that I did something wrong or I didn't do this. But overall, it's very frustrating when you don't know the rules to the game. And it's, I hate to keep beating up the topic. Of course, there's judges in UFC or boxing, but I love those two sports because it's two guys locked in one spot or it could be gals and just who's best.

better. And that's what I like more about anything. I mean, I almost wish to, too, like, Oregon, you should only be allowed to have a certain amount of uniform combinations. You should only have certain square footage in a locker room. Like, let's find out, that's the whole point of athletics or competition is like, let's find out who can do it better. But when you really don't know what the rules of the game are or they're so lopsided in favor of Tennessee over middle Tennessee state, it's kind of hard to have that nose to nose competition. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely it's the wild west there's going to be like a crazy documentary about all the nil it's taking place how does it work for baseball players like do baseball players get full scholarships now because

when when we were in school it was like baseball was getting like 8 40 percent like the most you could get is like 50 percent that's like hey this is a really good baseball player he's like this percentage but now nil's come in so you're paying these guys but do they have full scholarships like how does it all work now so to make it overly simple so they're used when i first started coaching it was 11.7 pretty much for every major program 11.7 one so so What does that mean? Scholarships. So if I sit down with you and your family and we love on you all weekend, official visit, you go down on the field for the football game, it had finished in the office with a here's your scholarship offer. And you try and do your best to make it seem as big as it can be because it's not. In average, if you do the numbers, 11.7, you'd get to about 43%. So not even half of your cost would be covered. And it's like, we love you. But to come here, you're going to have to pay 20 grand a year out of state kids. let's say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just awful dealing with that. And then the NIL is actually like, this is in football, this is a mess. But in baseball, it's kind of helping like, hey, you got no cost.

We'll just figure out a way to combine everything. And then we go into the new territory where the rumors became true. And it's like, I'm in the portal. You want me. My first phone call, they said, this number. What do you guys got? Yeah. And some of those conversations, like, two kids literally walked to my office, like, what am I? What is it? And I was like, nice to meet you. You know? Oh, shit. You know? And so now some of these kids are getting so over the top bat, they're not even really introducing themselves.

They're not, there's no small talk. It's like, what are you willing to offer me to come play at your school? Yeah. And again, no offense to them or no foul on them. I mean, it's what I keep saying, what you don't know, you don't know. I mean, if their phone call, they get from university of whoever is right out of the shoot, this is what we're offering you. Then that's kind of what his expectations are.

And now we're at this new place where we can offer full scholarships to Tennessee. Not every school did that. And I mean, we're talking big time program athletic departments did not boost their scholarship. So you can offer full scholarships if you want as an athletic department, but it's not available. And then you got this rev share thing, which is real money, but some don't get any. And then you got NIL, which again is hopefully getting sorted out, but we're still in a very gray place with that. And are you even able to like vet if they're getting this offer outside from another university? That's a great question.

I'm sure you can eventually. but it's like, you know, coach I was talking to, even with college football, you're like, you're not even having real exit meetings to talk about what the player can work on or develop. They're kind of walking in and be like, hey, this is what I'm hearing from my agent. There's really no conversation to be had unless I get X, Y, and Z. It's kind of the bulk. That is the exit meeting. Which is bad for the development of players.

In the football world, at least I don't have to work some baseball. But if you're not, if you can't coach a guy hard, he's not going to get better at these small things. And you're going to see it in the next couple of years where, the level of play on the field is going to get worse because the techniques now is good because the guys aren't getting coach the way they should. They're just getting more and more money because they're naturally talented. Yeah, I think it's kind of already started that way to backtrack a little bit. The one thing is what, and again, no foul play on an agent. If you're an agent, why wouldn't you say, hey, my guy's been offered already kind of between this number and this number and maybe you make it

seem a little better than it is. How are we supposed to know? And the recruiting in the summer goes like that. I mean, it's a whirlwind. So, but I think development, a, word that I kept coming up with is sequence. I think there's a sequence that takes place in the development of an athlete. And for some guys, it comes quicker, some guys that comes slower, but there's definitely a sequence you have to respect. And I think all respect for that has gone out the window because coaches are, you got to make a choice, what's your approach, but all of us at some point have tiptoed around something because of the threat of the transfer portal or a guy being disgruntled. And then, too, for a player, it's like, it's not going well. It's not

going as well as I thought it would, so I'm out. And I thought the coolest thing, and I'm not, I just, I'm fortunate enough to know Peyton because of the university, but when people talked about Arch Manning leaving Texas, one of my favorite individuals I've ever met is Archie Manning. And if you know that family, it's like, that dude ain't going nowhere. He's going to see that thing through and he's going to make it happen. And I followed a little bit. It seems like it's going decent. Yeah, last couple games. Last couple weeks before. But I think because of the background of that family, there's a respect for that sequence of development. And at some point, you're going to get knocked down and you're going to have to overcome some challenges. And if you wait till too long in

your career, you might not know how to handle it. Yeah, it'd be very off brand for Archman to be in the transfer portal. And he wouldn't have been a massive shock to anybody if he was going to go somewhere else based off of the diversity that was having up until these last couple of games. You talked about every coach at some point is kind of tiptoed around some things. What are some examples of you tiptoeing around. But you're like, ah, I shouldn't. Thanks a lot. Hey, we're out now.

This is fair game. You don't say names. Well, I mean, there's one that's pretty well documented. I mean, the thing is sometimes you find out a guy is leaving. And you find out be a news or a text. Well, on the recruiting side, you get a phone call. And we had kind of blossomed. And now all eyes are on us.

And I think we could have coached a kid that was a. superstar. But you get a call and it's like, hey, this guy's got seven or eight SEC offers. What's your guys offer? And it's like, well, and trust me, I'm no saint. But at the time, it's like, we got too many eyes on us and people are throwing out, you know, certain things. We didn't move on it at all. But it's so weird because it's like, I just watch this guy on TV. He's playing for a different school and yet shopping these other ones. So there's so many different situations in recruiting that pop up and that's one. And then with coaching, I had to coach a kid that was really talented that we knew he was out the door. We knew the minute we made kind of a change and roll that he was

going to be out the door. And we had a short conversation in the locker room like, what do we want to do? And finally, I just mean, we made a lot of group decisions in this particular case. I was just like, this is what we're doing, but he's going to leave. And then knowing that, you still have season left. It's kind of like, you know, the firing. coaches in the middle of season in college football. Sometimes it's a different way you get there, but you might still be able to have a successful season if you can just kind of keep things on board. So that was a tough. That was a tough one to deal with. Yeah, these decisions. Of all the schools, when you're getting calls from agents being like,

hey, we have an offer from this school for this much, what's one school that came up the most? It was like, hey, LSU, LSU's got a big baseball pro. They're always kind of offering the most. Like, what school does it seem like to you is like always offering the most? Well, um, you know, I think, oh, as far as NIL. NIL, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you're going to call. I thought you're talking about like, you're fighting. No, no, no, no, no.

I'm talking about like, you're fighting for a kid. Yeah, you know, I think there's a few certain ones that seem to be more organized out of the shoot. Um, but, you know, you brought up LSU. It's like, it's a religion down there. Um, that culture is so different and not just in sports, but just in life. It's pretty cool to be around. just the vibe you're not going to go hungry if you're walking around down in louisiana and

and in that vibe is sports is life and then in the state of texas it's you know everything's bigger it is true in a lot of different ways and down there it's like who can throw out the bigger wallet or the bigger amount so and then there's traditions at other sports too and there's some quirky niches that are out there so it honestly it varied it'd be now i'm not in college maybe i could throw something out there but it honestly varied where some were really organized out of the shoot and then others made adjustments um oil money's real um and then you guys see it like fan bases are loyal and i don't you know i've been in columbus but oh house it's a big city and ohio state football is it is it that's the main deal going on up they got all the money in there don't they

um what are a couple guardrails you'd put up in college baseball with the NIL and the portal. It's like for football, like I don't know the portal windows and stuff in baseball, but in football, I want to say the main one opens up in December, yeah? It's like the last, I thought it was the first week of January.

Yeah. It might be that. I know it's shifted a couple times, but it makes it very hard to where it's like, hey, if we're going to do all this money stuff and everything else, like just make it a, like a free agency type window. Let it happen in March.

So the way these kids, like some of these decisions aren't getting made where if there's still some season left or like right after it's happening. And there's teams playing for in the playoffs that are focused on the playoffs. Other teams are not making a bowl game, some bowl games. Yeah, being, you know, with our sport being a spring sport, and this is totally off the cuff. I don't have a stance one way or the other, but some people are in favor of guys being able to transfer and play if you transfer it semester. So right now, somewhere out there in the SEC, there's a kid that's realizing this isn't the

place for me. And, but he's good enough to be in the SEC. Why can't he transfer at December at the end of the semester and be eligible. You know, that creates a big mess, but that's an option out there. And then, you know, moving the portal dates, you know, I don't know that it affects our deal too much because so many of these conversations start before they start, you know. So our deal does start, you know, I think in the middle of regionals and it creates a bit of a mess. And now you're trying to win a regional and, you know, recruit a kid or a kid's trying to win a regional, but he's already, you know, got one foot out the door. So I think it's kind of nature of

beast. A lot of the stuff starts before it actually happens. And I don't know how you safeguard or put up, you know, rails against that, but that's why they're smarter people than I in higher paid positions. Yeah. Would that be like tampering? Yeah. And that's a word that gets thrown out a lot. you know i think what the actual definition of that uh needs to be put out there and i think you know again someone will say i did this or that but uh i think pretty staunch penalties against that would be wise but there's always back channeling stuff when agents are involved and again they've got a job to do when agents are involved and they can technically be a middleman or a third party it throws everything out of whack a little bit yeah i mean even in an NFL like there's a tampering

before the free agency period that's like well known it's like these guys soon as like free agency starts if it's like 2 p.m. on this day it's like 201 p.m. these 10 guys are getting signed these massive contracts there's always tom foolery about sure but it's like how do you that's like the name of the game right like you find the rules and then you exploit the rules with the way they're written to put your team in the best advantage you possibly can yeah i've tried to say i mean with the NCAA in particular I've seen a bunch of rule changes. And again, I don't know necessarily what's best. You just find out what they are

and you're trying to do your best job. But anytime you make a rule or a law, to me, you should always hire a criminal and say, how are we getting around? You know, if we're going to start a casino, you would want, you know, I think you've had some time at the tables. Yeah, right? I'll play a couple of hands.

Not as a criminal. Fair game every single time. How do we hire a criminal? No son. You know he's down right. Yeah, well, actually. Yeah, but, you know, find out what are the ways around this and maybe you can prevent it,

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Yeah, no. Right now. Yes or no. I'm trying to stay out of trouble more than that. Although you've got a great job of doing the allegedlys and people will say I did this, but. Would you like to see a salary cap in college baseball? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, again, I do kind of like what it's delicate because America's built on pushing the envelope and trying to outdo people in capitalism and things like that. But in the spirit of competition, I do like when things are even. So, you know, where the where the balances between those two as far as what you can pay people? I don't necessarily know. But yeah, look at the example of the old ESPN and YouTube TV right now. Yeah. As far as fighting for capital viewers. Yeah.

losing right now on both ends. Yeah, but we were just talking about the Dodgers and how the Dodgers is bad for baseball. The Dodgers won. This is Mitch's take because they can pay more money for people. Also, they have a crazy like vet tunnel from like Japan, the most disciplined people ever like, the people from Japan love Dodgers. If you, from a giant, time zone works out the whole thing. They got a nice little tunnel though. They had a nice little tunnel with the Dodgers. When you're looking at giants, is this like a franchise that can spend a lot of money? Do they spend a lot of money? Yeah, they're aggressive. Okay, good.

Good, so we're in a good spot. Yeah, I think so. You guys want to jump on board? Yeah. Hey, listen, we have some money that hasn't hit our account right now to where a couple years ago somebody was on the podcast and said they say. I think they said that they would give their salary. Two bustling with the boys.

To win a national title. And did that person win a national championship? He did that year. Did bustle with the boys get their salary? They did not see a dollar. Do you pull up that individual's salary from the last year? tuning in whether it's... Don't pull out of.

San Francisco, new viewers, rooting on your next manager. Coach Tony Vee was on. We sat down with him out in Tennessee for Bustin' With the Boys an episode. Oh, shit. Oh, damn. The question we like to ask is, what would you be willing to do to win like a national title or a Super Bowl? And Tony Vee was on.

He said he'd give us a salary if he won a national title. That year, we went out through the first pitch here in Nashville, Tennessee. They go on and win a national title. So we've been having guns pointed at Tony V like, hey, where's that salary? I feel. Or are we getting it? We dipping into the new salary. We could come up with an agreement, especially because I failed.

I've been running around. We're interviewing people. But the plan was to come in with a briefcase full of IOUs. $275,000. You might want to hold on to that one. Yeah. Yeah. We will sink that in.

Yeah. I want to hold on now. It's a big one. You might want to hold on to that one. Yeah. So we could, we'll get on a payment plan. We'll figure it out. Yeah.

Maybe like, I don't know, like 10,000. I mean, how about a beverage? Like, now that at least I'm not a molding young men and having to recruit, I actually won't be fearful of being seen with a beverage in my hand or anything like that. There we go. There you go. Well, we'll start with a, if I see you guys a free cocktail and then we'll just keep the tab run until it hits. You might have to have a house of coffee or something like that.

Sure. No one had the national title went. You might have to have us out to throw a first pitch to get that World Series time. I'm 100% down with that. Yeah, we need that. We're going to need that. Here's where it starts. Would you be willing to give us your salary this year with the Giants if you win a World Series?

A good chunk. A good chunk. Yes, I would. Exactly. What you need to say right now is yes. Then we do the first pitch thing and it might just be written in the stars. Written in the stars. Then you never give it to us.

I would do that. I would do that. You would actually give it to us a start? Yeah. And then I'd roam the streets of San Francisco and there's got to be a company that's having enough success there that that amount of chump changed to them you didn't on an equity deal out there yeah that's a perfect city to just blindly give out money yes we have a non-handshake deal for the right non-handshake deal for the record oh bro what else do I have oh I have a question oh so it's like

coming up through high school when we were younger it's like it seemed like if you get drafted or going to the farm system that could be a better route to the MLB versus like going to college Has that shifted a lot due to the NIL stuff going on in college baseball? You know what? Is that a good question? Yeah, I think scouts were real fearful of, hey, we want to give this guy, you know, $800,000 in the third round, but he's going to get pushed to college. And I think there's been examples people can point to like, hey, they bought this guy out of the draft.

I think there's probably more of that with returning players, like a sophomore or a junior that could have left college X and gone to the draft. maybe he's more inclined to come back because he's already ingrained in the community. He's getting this NIL set up. But I think it's like anything. It's case by case. I don't think it was as rampant as maybe scouts feared of, man, I'll put all this work in on this guy. I know he's the guy I want.

I go to the front office, but when we call him on draft days, like, no, I'm good. I'm getting six figures from a college. Yeah. So it skewed it a little bit, I think. But so my follow-up is that where you could, is that were some collaborative efforts on bringing college baseball or the NCAA into like the MLB in some sort of a way?

I think if anything and understanding, instead of both sides wondering what's going on. And hey, I always kind of kept my distance because I've just kind of been a live, I've lived my life in the clubhouse. I mean, that's my family away from my family. Yeah. But there's probably already been some continuity between college coaches and pro teams. But might as well open up the avenues and everybody have a full understanding of how it works and what goes on so that people can make the best decisions without, you know, looking back on it

with regret. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's a lot, there's a lot more nuance as a high school player coming out. Yeah. Potential to get drafted, potential to go make a lot of money in college. Yeah. It's still so. The development in a certain organization that you might want.

Like, I'm just assuming here, like, if I'm a player and you're a massive fan of you or development of you and you can get a call coming out on draft day and you're kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place of wanting to go into this organization, but getting a lot more big dollars to go play college baseball. I could just see where it's a very nuanced decision that an entire family is making. I think it can be an X factor. At the end of the day, I think a lot of decisions are made ahead of time, and it's like maybe a fallback on something like that.

It confirms that's what I want to do or just gives more conviction to the decision. Yeah. But I think a lot of these guys, man, it's in their DNA what they want to do ahead of time. and then you've got the first round is unique. If they're making you, they're number one, you know, they're committed to you more than any other player in that draft class to make it to the big leagues. It's hard to say no, and of course there's finances that come with it.

But I think there's very few swing guys where you can change their mind. I think more times than not, it's kind of in the DNA, so to speak, what a guy wants to do. I appreciate you being up, but I'm very ripe when it comes to all this baseball talk. Yeah, yeah. Sam, if someone's picked in the first round, where does like the average amount of time it takes him to get to the big leagues? Yeah, I mean, we've got a kid now that it'll be interesting to coach him because he said no to us and committed to Alabama.

But Bryce Eldridge is a guy who's, you know, 21 years old probably and has already seen what it looks like in the big leagues. So again, that sequence can happen different for various guys. But to go from high school to the big leagues, you got your outliers like Brett Anderson was a left-handed pitcher and Andrew Jones who can make it at year 20, 21. but I think on average it's probably six, seven years. Really? So, you know, and again, I'm throwing that out. All this stuff is just my vantage point. There's other people you could bring on

that are either have varying opinions or are different experts. That's CYA. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I think in general you're looking at a long march into the big leagues. But there's reasons why clubs can show kids it's an advantage to get into the organization and start your pro career. and then there's also college coaches that can say, look, if you're playing in the SEC, you're actually speeding up the process to make it to the big leagues because you're learning

how to handle media and, you know, compete at a high level, deal with fans knowing what you got on your Instagram and yelling at you. And then you've seen it, too. There's proof in the pudding with guys who almost go straight from our league to the big leagues, whether it's Skeens or Christian Moore or guys like that. What do you think you'll, what will you miss most about coaching college baseball? I think just from seeing this weekend with a college football Saturday, just the youthfulness, the youthful energy. Having said that, there's a donor who lives here, really good dude.

I'm watching Game 7 of the Blue Jays Mariners, and he's texting me because it kind of gotten hot and heavy at this point. You know, you're better around kids and that energy thing, and I'm watching the game. And I get that and I agree with it. But if you were watching Mariners versus Blue Jays game seven and you don't see two dugouts full of kids, You know, and again, you guys have experienced it in pro sports. Like, it's recess. You're wearing a damn uniform. Still playing.

Stop and fun. Yeah. Yeah. You're behaving as if you were a kid. And you're playing a kid's game. And then when you take the uniform off, your life is different because you're an adult or you have a family. But I think that's the essence of the fun moments of sports as you get to see guys being in that character of being a kid. But you're seeing it at the highest level athlete.

Yeah, especially when you're in the playoffs. Why does MLB have 162 games? Why do we do that? Making a lot of money. You're making a lot of money coming. Yeah. That's so many games. Just so many games.

How many games are in college baseball? 56 regular season. Okay. And then, of course, you start the postseason with the conference tournament and all that. So you can end up playing about 70 games if you have a successful year, maybe a little bit more. Earlier in the pod, you're talking about you starting off slow and then getting real hot towards the end. Then this past year starting real hot and they kind of being okay towards the end. How is it?

as a coach manager like motivating guys when you have that many games because football it's like every game kind of counts if you lose one it's like guys we can't we if we lose one more like we're in a bad spot making the playoffs with you guys is like you drop three or four it's like hey who cares right yeah yeah well the the biggest thing is and and that was something people cautioned against me of a distaste for losing uh can really hurt you if because even a good season you'd lose 60 games so you better learn how to deal with that and again I haven't personally experienced it. But in the college level, even at 56 games, it's like, we beat Alabama.

Coach Heiple's good enough to have me in the locker room and the guys have cigars and things like that. You got a game the next day. So you really can't do that in baseball. And then when you lose, you know, after a loss of you prepared all week and it comes down to the last play, I can only imagine how down of a feeling that is as a coaching staff. Next morning, see in the office at 6 a.m. breakdown video. I'm sure Coach Echler would just sleep there. You can't do that. It's go home,

get a good night's sleep. When you take, you know, the old one one kind of mental deal is when you take your jersey off, the game is over in baseball. Some guys will roll with that. So yeah, it's a lot bigger sample size and you got to learn to roll with the punches a little bit more and you can't get as hyped up as you as you do running out of the tunnel. Dude, it is, it is so fucking cool that you were the first manager to kind of make this crack into going from college to the MLB, when you are in your reflective stages, your reflective state, like, what are some moments you look back on that you were proud of that you persevered and stayed the course, knowing that you are now in this spot?

I mean, it's fucking awesome, bro. Especially if you go on Win World Series and like, knowing that we've had. You've had, you're like, yeah, we'll see if it works out. It's like, we all know the competitor in you is like, you obviously, you're going to crush this. but it's like they're the guinea pig and you're kind of figuring out like is this going to work because if this works out for you you're opening up a door to every college baseball coach and it's like it's a sick opportunity that you're being able to pave the way and be different than everybody else no that's a source of energy too that that other people might be able to do something that they normally wouldn't and it's it's not going to be me it's going to be just the general concept and i think there's starting to be an understanding of yeah i didn't ride all the buses in the minor leagues where i didn't have the talent to make it to the big leagues and i'm speaking on all college coaches But the time these guys have to invest in recruiting and learn how to deal with people and watch games. I mean, you watch five or six games on any given day in the summer through recruiting.

So you're around baseball as much as anybody. So if there's a little bit stronger of a bridge there, that would be pretty awesome to be a part of. But, you know, reflecting on what I persevered through as a player, speaking of crying, at Missouri, there's a couple times where I was just like, I'm working my ass off and I'm not getting rewarded the way that I should. Is this worth it? And there were a couple days where I was just going to quit as a player. And I didn't, you know, see it working out like this. But if I would have quit as a player, it wouldn't have worked out as a coach. And then, too, as a coach, it's kind of like being an insurance salesman recruiting.

I've heard no so many damn times. I think, again, you only see the successes. So maybe people think it's different. But even at Tennessee, you hear no all the time. And it's negative feedback. And it can beat you up. So to keep pushing through it is pretty huge. But yeah, it would take me a while to reflect on the whole career.

There's a lot of ups and down strikes and gutters, as the big Lobowski says. But, you know, it's been awesome to be a part of some of the teams I've been around. And ultimately it starts with players. So, again, I think the concept started of maybe a college coach involved, but it started with them having an interest in our players. And then, too, I've gotten credit for being around guys like Kyle Gibson's a major league All-Star guy coached. We could go pick somebody up off the street.

They could have coached that guy. He was just fortunate enough to get a yes from him in recruiting, you know? And Max Scher is Max Scherzer. But every time I'd address a team, I can bring him up because everybody knows him and I'm friends with him and I coached him. And you can almost kind of take credit for some of the things he's done. But you've seen that guy pitch. I mean, he is the definition of creating your own future.

Yeah. That's sick, man. You will be successful. And whatever moments you do reflect on a couple of up with it can be part of your book one day it just won't you know wildly will not go by us that we got to have him on the bus yeah as you're going in the majors and not only that but we got to sit with you like before you went on that uh the national title running out it's to me it's just sick that you you you've you we have this relationship and you've allowed us to interview you and you came on the bus

and when you are fucking successful one day and you do win the world series like i know for us this will be this will just be a cool moment to look back on you talk about taking credit for what some guys have done like you're a perfect example for us when you win a world world and you're a world series were like look what we did yeah the three of us yeah I'll be sure we'll be taken credit for sure well we help will will the giants and do a world series I'd no no well let's okay if we are gonna manifest or whatever and we went a world series if you guys get to be in the clubhouse with the champagne and everything what is that worth dollar wise do you see that being like that's a good question put

me some 500 grand a piece worth them that might be worth 500 people put the cool goggles dropping the graham for a moment like this. Now I remember the, I mean, you were out there and you threw out that first pitch and I was like, well, shit, didn't. Or do you have eligibility or? Yeah. But then did you have, again, I'm not on social media. No, yeah, but go ahead. Then there was there one that wasn't a success for?

Yeah. And I'm not being facetious. I'm trying to. Because the one. So you looked like a good big, long lefty when he took that first pitch here in Nashville. It was good. Yeah. Yeah.

Thank you. And I'm glad you brought that up because everyone wants to look at St. Louis. St. Louis and be like, that's the sample size. Like, people forget what happened in Tennessee. Here's what happened. I tasted the success. Sure. And I felt good about it.

A couple of your guys and the volunteers were like, hey, not bad in my own. You used to throw a little bit back in the day. So we go to this Cardinals game and I'm thinking, I'm just gonna throw it as hard as I can. I'm gonna try to throw heat, get on like ESPN top 10. And yeah, got away from me. Got away from me, didn't bring it around.

Yeah. And can I be honest, since that day, I've had the yips. to where we go and we go to the Royals game. And I throw one that's a little too high. And it's better than that one. But it's like, let's get back to the basics. Sure. We'll be working on the side.

He gets the ball in his hand and you feel the confidence. But the moment you step in the big leagues and he's got that ball in his hand, it's like it just starts shakes. Yeah, I'm a AAA guy. I'm never going to be a dude that's going to ride the bus for 15, 20 years. Well, I don't have all the answers, but I'm in Nashville. So maybe we need to play catch and train a little bit. I should have called you during this process.

You know, if anyone's listening out there that has that opportunity, the number one advice I would say is don't try and throw it hard. And you did better than like 50 cent tried to throw hard and he's muscled up. And Connor McGregor tried to do the same thing. So yeah, just a little feel, a little touch pass, if you will. That's the thing, though, is it would be very easy for me after that Cardinals game to go and just kind of throw a muffin, get it in there, no problem. But it's like, am I going to take that way or I have to like kind of keep the same process?

Now you have to conquer it. Yeah, and I have to conquer throwing hard. We can do it out, San Fran. Yeah, we're going to have to. Maybe after this podcast, we get out there and we get a couple gloves. Yeah. You just give me a couple pointers, throw the ball 10, 15 times. I should have brought all these materials.

I'm upset the no suitcase with the IOUs. Yeah. Should have brought a ball on some gloves. That's right. I can guarantee we'll be out in San Fran sometime. Yeah. I can guarantee that for you. Bring it on.

We'll be out. I think we're officially a bus with the boys of San Francisco Giants fans, right? Oh, yeah. So we are now? Very bad. Please. I'll send some gear. Yeah.

Oh, dude. Yeah. We'll have, it's black and orange, you know. Spooky. Spooky.

Now, the Super Bowl's in San Francisco, right? Yes. Will you guys set up shop out there doing anything? We will be out there. Yeah, we'll be out there. We haven't got it set in stone yet. Yeah. Yeah.

You got a spot for us to stay? We can arrange that. I've got a. What's on? I don't know that I should. Gabe Kapler, there's a place that's been talked about. you know, Bob Melvin was the last manager.

And I didn't get to say it in the press conference. Shame on me. But he reached out to me and was a class act and was very helpful. And then the manager before him was Gabe Kapler. And Gabe was in pretty good shape. And I think I think enjoyed the city. So I'll explain how that involves a living arrangement when we're off the year. Yeah.

Sounds like we have a big enough place to stay when we come out. We'll make sure that happens anyway. But yeah, there's the official invitation. and man, what a cool, I want to see that stadium as well. I mean, our park you guys will absolutely fall in love with, but I want to go out there. And John Lynch reached out right away. Obviously, he's involved in the organization, great dude.

And then if I can meet Coach Shanahan, because those guys like Al Wilson and Peyton that know him through, you know, his father with the Broncos, I always asked about him. And they say the guy's an absolute superstar. Yeah, you got a great football team that would very much probably rally around the Giants. Yeah. Good crew, good locker room. Good locker room.

I probably shouldn't have it, but I was given George Kittles number, and boy, would it be fun to take part in some shenanigans with that guy? Have you researched to George yet? Well, it was a group message. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah. George is the perfect guy. He's the type of dude that he'll get DMs from guys and become friends with them.

Yeah. And they'll be at his part, his George Kittlefest, yeah. And not just DMs from guys. I'm talking like, this is like meme group DM. Yeah. People he doesn't know that like Xbox fans and they'll be out at Kittlefest. because he's like, oh, you're my guy. George's, George's the V.

And I'll be like, oh, how'd you mean George? George are like, oh, we're on the same kind of like Xbox team. Like we just kind of DM every week and people drop like different just memes in the DM and George will respond. And now they're out here at Kettlefest in Nashville. Yeah. So George is, he's the perfect guy to get in with the 49ers.

That's a true clubhouse team. That's why every kid should at least be on one, you know, take part in one team sport. Yeah, clubhouse mentality. It sounds like he's the definition of it. What the hell is Kittlefest? It's here? It's here.

It's in Nashville. Yeah, Kittlefest. Yeah, it's Kittal Fest. You don't know how to explain it, but it's massive. Every year is a different theme. It's out of his farm. Okay. Food trucks.

Jelly roll. He just randomly comes in place. Yeah. People performing. Beer games. George just throws a party. That's awesome. Yeah.

Jelly roll. Man, that guy says something to you, even if it was just a regular sentence, it feels like a sermon. It's awesome. We might have to have him speak to the team if we go through any poor streaks. Absolutely. He is the nicest guy ever. Yeah.

He really does. Do we want to hit him with the Bud Light question? What an opportunity for him to say, I'd be willing to give my entire salary to you guys if we win the World Series. Yeah. But we can hit him with the Bud Light question. So Bud Light, people would do anything for an ice cold Bud Light. Absolutely. What is something that you would do anything for?

I wouldn't stand in front of a gun with Kid Rock, that's for sure. It was just Halloween for an ice cold bud light. I'd be willing to go back to my, I didn't wear a costume this year, but kind of the one that I regret or look back on the most was Kramer in Seinfeld once was trying to be an underwear model. So there was one time I roamed the streets of Columbia, Missouri with just tidy whiteies and some Doc Martins or some shoes. So I'd revisit that holiday. costume for a nice cold button. Hey, that's a good one.

That's a good one. Columbia, Missouri. It's a fun town. Yeah. It's a fun town. You're part of some interesting teams. It's a little chilly, yeah. A lot of personalities there and yeah, it's interesting.

I like the loyalty thing and being a part of one place, but when you explore new areas, you meet people that you never would have met and you pick up on different cultures. And I look back on the four colleges I worked at and wouldn't have it. any other way. So to juice up the Seinfeld clip, would you be willing to throw us an image of you back today? Again, is this an off-air thing or is this going up on it? This would be a hundred- show. This would be all on social media. Now I can't, I got to do something between now and spring training. I got to get in shape if I'm going to be in uniform around these guys. But back then, I was in decent shape, but I don't think it was anything to brag about and have the whole

world looking at. That's for sure. Yeah. That's a. That's a funny. That's AI's for it. You'll handle that, no problem. This is a throwback photo. God, wandering the streets and tidy whitties. Yeah. Well, dude,

congrats on your success. Thank you. This is, it's awesome. Ground floor. I appreciate it. And thank you for taking the time to come here. No, this is awesome.

Anyone who would ever get a chance to do this would be floored. And, you know, Coach Echler was good enough to hook us up a few years back. And fortunately, I went well enough. I didn't screw it up. But, you know, you guys had floated the invite.

I knew something crazy had to happen to actually step foot on this bad boy. And I appreciate it. Maybe one day down the road we can do it again. What do you guys do? I'm doing a little serious. Scottsdale, Arizona. The Mecca. And I've never got to do the waste management thing.

My buddies do that every year and I'm in a group text. Bruce Bochy, you know, he was another guy. These men, like, I'm blown away because, you know, in the SEC, there's, high level of respect, but you're at each other's throat more than you want to be. And I got the job and all these guys reached out to me with either text messages or phone calls. Managers now in the MLB or former managers and Bruce Bochy, he was with the Giants and with Buster. He lives here and I was able to sit with him. But one of the things he said, a lot of great advice, but maybe the thing that jumped out the most was he said,

Scottsdale, Arizona during spring training is like Marty Gras. It is. Dude, it's a zoo. I mean, I grew up in Arizona. And every time, every spring training, it was like a flood of people coming in. Always something to do somewhere to go. You're going to love old town Scottsdale. And if I could just give you a piece of advice, if you want a team bonding experience.

Yes. Take your boys to Zips. Go to Zip. Hey, am I wrong? Hey, hey, hey, there it is. Yeah. Get some gold wings. Call Zips.

Rent out this place. Get yourself some golden wings for the boys, some Monaco Ficasas. You get the whole team in there, buddy. You're going to spend. $1,200 to feed your entire team, but you're gonna walk away full bellies and full hearts. You guys might win it all based off of this one experience. We will set that up 100%.

It is, and we'll come. Hey, how awesome would that be? It's like the players are like, coach apparently has some nice dinner set up. Yeah. Jobs location, they pull up, see Zips Sports Bar, and he's just like, Taylor told me to go here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So bonding.

We'll do this. Zip sent us a gift card for $250, which is like a month worth of Zips. And we have talked about like flying into Arizona for one day, just to get Zips and come back. Yeah. But now spring training boys. Let's go spring training.

And then also, so those guys are training for the big league season. You come down, you train for a first pitch in spring training. I love it. And then we finish it up with. Yeah. A real game in San Francisco. I would love that. Zips is the icing on the cake.

We're going to do a full day of training. Get the elbow nice and sore. And then we're going to go feed some Zips. That elbow will be just fine. It's going to be awesome. It's going to be awesome. Coach Vee, he can just tell him, we got a couple sponsors that lined up.

at dinner for us. Yeah. Just be standing in there. Bring all the fellows, man. Dinner on the boys. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. Chef, before we get off or Jack, any questions for Coach V being sick of all fans?

Not a question, but thanks. You truly embody what it is to be a Tennessee ball and took Tennessee baseball into the forefront, brought us first Natty, truly incredible. The whole fan base, I can wholeheartedly speak for them. We will miss you and wish you the best of luck with the Giants. and yeah, I'll be tailing the Giants now moving forward. So GBO and whatever, go Giants. Thank you, brother.

SFG. I appreciate it. Yeah, also thanks here. You're actually the reason I have a job here. I did the documentary on Hunter. I don't know if you remember and I interviewed you. That's the reason Jared, when I was an intern, he said just off of that alone is kind of how I got started here.

So appreciate it. Appreciate everything you did. Ball baseball has been such a great, like, since you got there and turned the program into what it is now, it's added just another sport that we get excited for, and it feels anything that we can root on that orange and white is the best. So thank you and best of luck. Yeah, well, thank you, man.

That's a cool story. You did the work, so it goes to show you. I didn't even know that with the documentary. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if you do good work, someone's going to notice. So good on you for that to happen, but I'm glad we had a part in it. And overall, just it almost like anytime you're talking to a ball fan,

You feel like you're talking to the whole group. It's just a representative at that. So as far as that exchange goes, I got more out of it than anyone else did. And it couldn't have happened without all the ingredients are there in a great city, obviously phenomenal place in the fan base. And then you mix in college baseball, if you haven't been to a college baseball game and you're listening, you've got to go no matter where it is. It's become a party and it's a lot of fun. And you're seeing future big leaguers for a much cheaper price, you know. Not that there's anything wrong with the San Francisco.

Francisco Giants prices. But no, the appreciation is mutual. And dude, walk. I didn't know. My dad's like, how was the feedback or whatever? Because he cares. And you got to grow thick skin. But I went back to the football game Saturday.

And just entering the stadium stuff that people were saying on the street, I was like, again, to use the tears theme. Like, I was like, I got to duck my head and get in the stadium because this is emotionally overwhelming. And people don't have to do that. So I appreciate it. I think part of it, Josh Elander stepping in. I think a lot of people have trust in him.

Do you want to speak anything on that and kind of tell Valls fans what they can expect? I've heard some really cool stories about him being in Canada and wildfires or maybe it was California and drove home for like his wife's, he was doing recruiting, wife pregnant and then got back out like just these crazy hard ethics, hard work ethics stories. Do you have anything you can attest to that? Yeah, to a fault going back and forth and being on top of the recruits. thing for sure. But no, that was, I feel like, you know, again, I get the hat. I feel like I'm still a part of All Nation, but really, truly being a part of a victory, that was the last victory I was a

part of. And it was a small part of it. Really, it was the players spoke up, the agents that he worked with, the summer coaches, the players that are in our recruiting classes. He was the guy that was heading all that up. And, you know, just because there were some moments, maybe you accidentally touch an umpire or bump into an umpire i should say uh you get a little more attention than than you deserve there was a massive group effort in that building to try and get the thing you know going and he was just a big of a part of it as any um so he's the right leader but there's also the right players on the field and then also it'll keep that culture going and there's something like i said consistency of that culture Tennessee baseball for whatever reason has a vibe and the

fans contribute to it. So the fact that vibe is going to keep rolling fires me up. Should fire everybody else up too. Fires me up. Yeah, good. Fires me up. Before we get off, do you have a piece of advice that you've latched on to as you're making this transition?

Again, I think make a decision and do it like hell was something that a family we talked about earlier kept revisiting with me. And the thing I've always latched on to from a mentor mine with these recruits is the right decision is the one you make, you know, unless you look back on it or you second guess or you regret things. So those are somewhat corny ones, but I think impactful at this point. But more than anything, I'm just going to enjoy it. Again, I'm the guinea pig. So whichever way it goes, I'm blessed to be able to experience it. And the organization has blown me away so far and how they do things. So I'm going to learn a lot and have fun doing it. And we'll see if we went enough games for

you guys to be in the locker room one day. Let's go. Coach Vee, you're the man, bro. Thank you very much. Appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you guys. Let's get out of applause.

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