Bussin' With The Boys - Troy Polamalu Talks the Art Of Defense, Chasing Ed Reed + Life After Football

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

Recorded: February 8th 2024 | On this weeks episode, both of the boys are back for the intro. The guys recap the weekend and the NFL combine that happened. Since Taylor was there, he touches on what i...t was like being on the field watching some of the guys go through their drills. The guys also introduce a new segment called "Dad Time". In this new segment the guys get the chance to air out some of their frustrations in being a dad. Leave us some comments with some of your frustrations as a father. Following the intro the boys are joined by the one and only, Troy Polamalu. This interview is a football players dream, just a couple of older guys talking inside ball, some X's and O's and just good ol' fashioned dude time. Troy gets into how relentlessly he studied other players, how much he loved watching film and how he decided to make those plays jumping over the line. 0:00 Intro 3:55 Taylor Was At The Combine 21:04 AB vs Barstool 26:11 Is Will Superman?? 29:05 The Boys Are Going To The 305  34:59 March Madness Time 38:26 Reliving The College Football Video Game Glory Days 47:01 Shoutout The Simple Things 59:11 Dad Time 1:11:56 What Fictional Item Do You Want? 1:23:07 TROY POLAMALU INTERVIEW STARTS 1:23:39 Becoming A Sports Dad 1:28:08 The USC Hit 1:32:25 Troy Jealous Of Other Players? 1:33:51 Truly A Student Of The Game 1:35:25 Dick Labeau Was The Best 1:40:35 How He Added Wrinkles To His Game 1:43:53 Troy Could Play EVERY Position 1:48:41 The Importance Of A Good Secondary 1:49:56 Mike Tomlin As A Coach 1:51:36 "It Was All Instinct" Jumping The Snap 1:53:56 Head And Shoulders Model Theme Song: Some Of Adams Blues by Quaker City Night HawksFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:52 All righty then. What episode? We have 2.65? 266. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Buston with the boys before we get started. Oh, Willa Compton's back.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Let's give him a round of applause here. Willie C is in the building. And how did you get here today? Will? The Chevy, the Chevy Severado, specifically the ZR2 Chevy Severado. But we're not here to talk about the ZR2. We're here to talk about the
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Starting point is 00:05:05 So in the brand new ones, they will have, so all of the Chevy Silveradoes coming out in 24 will have Supercrues. Mine won't get a Supercruz? No. I think yours is last year's edition. It doesn't have it,
Starting point is 00:05:20 but when you get your, You're updated one when Chevy sends you a brand new. Yeah. Super crews activated. That's what we do need, especially me. I was in my, I was being driven to the combine yesterday. And I did not set it up. The NFL set it up.
Starting point is 00:05:35 And I got in the vehicle, and I'll just say this. It wasn't a Chevy. So I'm white knuckling at the whole time. I'm on my way there because I don't feel as safe as I could possibly feel. Take a picture. Me and my boy, Ishmael, we're on the drive. I had a buddy from high school. Hits me up, and he's like, nice to see you and want to excellent.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Y Z car. He sends me a picture of his non-chevi in there. And I was like, brother, are you going to have a family soon? I suggest you do the right thing. Keep your family safe. Go trade that POS and get you a Sevi-Silverado specifically the ZR-2. And until then, I'm going to delete your number and don't ever contact you. Right. Don't contact me again. Trust me, we're not boys right now. If you're wondering if we're good or not, let me answer that question for you. We're not good. That's not how we're going to do. But yeah, dude, combine yesterday. Combine the entire week last week was pretty impressive. The combine 40 record was broken by Worthy, the wide receiver from Texas.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Get to get what you need in there. Yeah, yeah, I need to get that little swirl. And boy starting to get separated, huh? Yeah, I got to get it back together. Can we pull that little clip up real quick? Can we pull that clip up of Worthy and just watch running the master at work? Yes, 421, I believe was his official time. That is so crazy.
Starting point is 00:06:42 That's nuts, dude. And there's fast. And then there's track fast. This man, Xavier Worthy. is track fast. And he knew what he was going to do too. Everyone knew. Even us boys from Texas were like,
Starting point is 00:06:54 just watch you just wait till X runs. The best part is when you were... And the crowd erupted. I know. 16,000 people were in that stadium to watch. Is it the one of the first year that they did that? Or they let fans and people attend? They did it last year too.
Starting point is 00:07:10 So I was obviously there with the office line were there. We'll just say it was went from 16,000 to 1,600 people. Like it was very... 1,600 to 16,000. thousand? No, I went from 16,000 watching the wide receivers to 1,600 watching the offense alignment. Oh. The office linemen now go last. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the hogs, man. The hogs. Not a lot of love for the hogs. Not a lot of love. You want to see speed. You want to talk about quarterbacks, rich eyes and Daniel Jeremiah, those two individuals during the
Starting point is 00:07:34 hogs workout. We're talking about how great J.G. McCarthy's workout is and how he's a sleeper of the draft and how incredible that guy's going to be in the NFL. If you want a quarterback, you want to get excited about a quarterback, get excited about the offense line as well. Because your quarterback's going to be nothing without a good offensive line boys and girls okay he will be absolutely i see you trying to pump the hogs man i'm just saying dude these guys need a little bit more respect and i don't know did you watch the combine yesterday well i watched you've combined not fully invested yeah so during during the 40s the office alignment running the 40s these cats is the fastest one the fastest 40 for oh line was 4 9 2 yeah like 4 9 2 yeah i think it was
Starting point is 00:08:11 only five guys that were under under 5 this year but um um at one point in the second group I was down watching the, I was like standing right here off to the side in the end zone area, watching these guys. There's about 10 dudes left and four or five guys, it seemed like, went down with hamstrings or soft-pish issues. Got to get the soft-ish thing.
Starting point is 00:08:31 One dude pulled his hammy and then all of a sudden start limping, then his other knee kind of buckled. So I was like, I hope that didn't get way worse than it should have been. Which leads me to, in 2014, when your boy was at the combine, office linemen, and the big boys got there first. Like, office alignment, defense of linemen, injured guys got there first and started working through the process and you're there for four days
Starting point is 00:08:51 and on the fifth day you run I think they should go back to even though we all know why the NFL is now putting the fast guys first because the ratings are better and everyone's tired by Sunday it's god day's for god day for a reason oh yeah this is the big boy walking look at that dude is biance walk had a sock in my piece too making it look a little bit bigger you need to have these guys the big boys run first because the soft tissue issues obviously were an issue and then some people are even talking about getting rid of the 40 for office linemen in general. But now I'm talking about just doing a 20. Yeah, I think that's smart.
Starting point is 00:09:21 See, I don't like that before example A. Like a young Taylor-Lawand would want to show how fast he is by running the entire 40. Yeah, but then it goes, it's like, yeah, but if you're going to risk the hamstring injury, it's like, why would you move the alignment to the first just so they can be preventive on the hamstring injuries? Yeah. They don't bring the asses in the seats. They don't bring the asses in the seats, but guess what?
Starting point is 00:09:43 Tomorrow, next day is open, bring the wide receivers in the next day. But for O-Line, do you put the finale? When you watch a fireworks show, do you watch the finale first where all the big booms are going off? Do you like to watch a couple of get you warmed up a little bit? Firework show only lasts probably 30 minutes in one singular day, not an entire week. It's a four days. So if they just did fireworks, like just four days in a row, just different sets and they're just doing like the sparklers in the beginning, it's like no one's even going to watch that either. Yeah, but then you would tune in for what?
Starting point is 00:10:09 Yeah, but you're not going to tune in anyway and just until the fireworks are going on, the big ones are going off. Yeah, but if you're not going to tune in for the big guys where we're going to, regardless, what's wrong with putting the big guys first so that they can have the soft tissue issues worked out and then put in the real show. You could even have a pre-combine hosted by the hogs. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. It's all kind of the same thing. We'll just take them out of the combine all together. Yeah, another big winner of the combine, Frank Crum, dude. And not to mention, you a fun little history fact, Taylor is the fastest 40 for guys over 6'6. In history. And if the 40 gets taken away, you own that record forever.
Starting point is 00:10:44 for life. Is the fastest lineman over 6-6 or fastest guy over 6-6 just in general? Really? How tall was Calvin Johnson? That's exactly what. Well, he and I, we're a similar, we're a similar comp. I'm pretty sure he was 6-5, no? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:01 It might have been fastest off its alignment over 6-6. Regardless, boys, the person sitting in this chair, thank you, holds a record in the NFL. Didn't see Joe Thomas on that list. Didn't see Joe Thomas. No. What's Joe Thomas? Williams on that list. Might be guys.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Might be guys. Might be guys. Only 6.5. Calvin Johnson? Too short, Calvin? You're too little. Can't be in my Kelvin Benjamin. How tall is, uh, didn't, uh, Armstead, he run a fast 40?
Starting point is 00:11:28 Armstead ran a 4-7-2. Wait, he might not be 6-6. He ain't. He's like 6'5. Oh, yeah, there you go. Yeah. So I would say, yeah, just take the 40 out. I don't see why the O-Liamen need to run 40s.
Starting point is 00:11:39 They really don't. Yeah, yeah. I think it's as a fan, it's electric. It's fun to watch. watch dudes run man it really is fun is watch literally watch all the drills that are timed who's going to be the winner keith carter did you uh did you uh you shake hands with key say what's up you get a hug i didn't say hi though but there was never really like he was doing the drills and then one time as i was kind of like going to do my next set of like the second group he was there with a bunch
Starting point is 00:12:05 of guys and i just chose not to interrupt like who am i if i'm going to talk trash about a guy to go and go and go hey keith how are you good to see it's like i've obviously drawn a line the same with keith Like not a fan. And that's just kind of how. That's just kind of how is. If he were to come to me, I would be cordial. I don't have any bad blood towards Keith. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I would just say in the profession that I used to be in, I would not want him as my coach. Yeah. That's all I would say. That just is what it is. It just is no, there's no disrespect. Right. It's just the game.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Right. We all get graded. Yeah. It's very interesting. And being at the combine or even at a pro day will, where the stresses. A wild shot. No, he's not a wild shot.
Starting point is 00:12:42 I'm just trying to bring you in the conversation. I don't know. be the guy that just talks the entire time. When you're doing your your combine or your skills, the stress level that everybody has going into the 40th and going into the broad, vertical,
Starting point is 00:12:54 short shuttle, three cone, all that stuff like is so high. And then being able to be 10, 11 years removed from the situation and kind of just walk out there and be chilling. It is such a wild different feeling. They're all in like this mental warfare in the moment.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Yeah. Because it's like, oh, this will be trained for the last like six to eight weeks. Yeah. There will be a couple guys. One time that they think, though, this will get us drafted higher. Whereas in reality, they're just checking off making sure you run. So I try to tell some of the Michigan guys, there was a bunch of dudes.
Starting point is 00:13:24 It was a very cool experience because after the first group finished and obviously all their stress was off their shoulders, a bunch of them. I would say like 20 dudes that came up at once. And we're like, the boys. About the boys, big fan of the pod, me playing and stuff like that. It was a very cool moment. Like one kid was like, yo, I used to watch you growing up in elementary school. I thought, what? Like elementary school?
Starting point is 00:13:45 That's nuts. And so it's just cool. It's cool to see those things. But those dudes are just so focused and then to be about the pod. But I was talking to those guys then. They're like, I'm like, how'd you run? And they're like, you know, hey, 5-2. And I'm like, good dude.
Starting point is 00:13:58 All you need to do in the situation is like if you're 10s under a 185 or whatever the benchmark is and you bench over this many times, like you're just checking boxes. Like leave the dudes that are freak athletes that are going to do the thing. Like, that's where they're going to gain. and some guys might do horrible and lose, but as long as you check a box, it's not going to hurt you. Yeah, like, you're good to go. Coram running, if, whether he ran a 5-9 or a 4-6-1,
Starting point is 00:14:20 it doesn't really, it doesn't really matter. I think if quorum ran a 4-9, he'd be in big trouble. 4-5-9, he'd be in big trouble. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a 4-5-9 versus 4-6-1, like that ultimately doesn't matter. It, that is just like wanting your ego to, right, oh, I ran a 4-5.
Starting point is 00:14:34 I know. Speaking of egos, dude, Luke McCaffrey, outshining his brother Christian. Edged him out. Edged him out. He made my All Combine team. Did he really?
Starting point is 00:14:44 Luke McCaffrey. Do you want to give out your list now? Yeah. I, oh, weird. I haven't pulled up. Cole Bishop, he's on the list for the All Combine team. You got Luke McCaffrey, Peyton Wilson, linebacker, Braden Fiske, the D-Lineman out of Florida State.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Harmon, he ran like a 4-7. And then Frank Crumb out of Wyoming. He had the mullet flowing. Those guys right now are on my All-Combine list. Spencer Radler, I have written down. He's kind of a maybe. It kind of depends. I'll get into that though.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I'm trying to crap the blog right now. No, no JJ McCarthy in that, huh? JJ could possibly make it. He's up there. He's on the short list. Yeah, you're making a list right now. So you just gave people a peek at
Starting point is 00:15:25 what the list would be on your blog that is coming out. I'm assuming this week. Yeah. It'll come out this week. Today, which is Tuesday. Wow. That's exciting stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Yeah, JJ, apparently blew everybody away in the combine. The way he was throwing the ball. Oh, yeah, yeah, the way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, same with Spencer Radler. Everybody was talking about how he was, how his footwork was. And, you know, because a lot of it with quarterbacks, they say it's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:47 you used to throw in a whatever particular receiver you want to. Like at Pro Day, you're going to have your guys running routes. So different receivers and different guys are not really changing up your footwork and just dropping dimes. I saw some highlights to JJ. He did look good. Yeah, he would be putting some zip in the ball. One of the days that you're happy that JP is not here, which is far and few between, is today. Because he would have only things to say about Spencer Radler.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Yeah. know JP is like everything is going exactly according to what he said yeah i wonder if which right now he's his stock is rising right's redler's stock is rising one guy that this is up for you know everybody else to interpret but i did not get a good vibe from Caleb williams throughout the combine process i know a lot a lot of backlash for the boy he essentially came to the combine for the free gear in the interviews like he refused only player in combine history not to do a medical review only do didn't run didn't throw he the his choosing not to throw was hey there's a lot of film on me you can watch that in real action I don't need to do that so he essentially went there and
Starting point is 00:16:48 I think he did one thing about sour sour gummies like him and some ladies sat there and tried sour candy so he's essentially just went there and postured on everybody posthuring and he's he's obviously an extreme talent it's incredible how talented he is but he's got this type of like I'm better than you attitude that he's coming off as now if this is not the individual he is, he's more than willing to come on the bus and explain himself. But what I saw from the short sample size I got of watching a few interviews on him on my way to the combine was guys very full of himself. He's got some big time yes people in his camp right now that are getting in his ear a little too much. He needs that. That is really, yeah. He needs that who
Starting point is 00:17:27 usually red flag? Who's at Marcus Aurelius always had a guy behind him saying you're just a man? Probably. Okay. So for those of you, the Roman Empire, Marcus Aurelius had a slave at actually, who was his only singular job was during his successes, was to sit there behind him and whisper in his ear, you're just a man to keep him humble, went on to being one of the greatest embers of all time. Yeah, Caleb needs that man. He needs that guy right now to be like, hey, listen, you still, because there's a, there's a point where people were saying he was saying he wanted equity or a percentage of the team he goes to. Do we know if that's real? If that was real, I don't know if that's real, but based on watching the interviews I did, I'm not going to sit there
Starting point is 00:18:05 and be like, I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised at all. Yeah. So to me, not a great look like this is a game where no one's bigger than the team, right? The name on the front is more important than the name on the back type of attitude. And he is not displaying that right now. Sometimes it's better just to fall in line. You can be different. You can go about your ways differently. Everybody does eventually.
Starting point is 00:18:25 But at this point in your process, don't show yourself in the foot. This guy too, Joe Milton. Yeah. For those of you that aren't just watching the combine with us right now. Tennessee Cat through an absolute rocket. What was it like 75 yards, Jackie? Pizuka, Joe, man. Pizuka.
Starting point is 00:18:42 It's, well, yeah, I mean, that's, if you know Joe Milton for two seconds, that's his bread butter is just arm strength. Yeah, long ball. It's not accurate. I don't know how he's going to perform in the NFL, but yeah, that was where he was going to come out and show for sure is just chucking one out. Yeah, you get him and Xavier worthy on the same team. You might make some fireworks happen there.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Just, hey, outrun everybody. I'm going to throw it as far as I possibly can. You guys hold up for two and a half seconds. Joe, you could see as somebody you kind of. of start to like a little bit more in the offseason process of the combine versus where he versus where he was like if you run the tape with Tennessee because he does have some accuracy issues yeah that's just subjective that's just subjective ball from the boy witnessing watching UT over the past year another interesting note of the
Starting point is 00:19:26 combine was there are what a specimen right there yeah and Hartman just an incredible looking individual he like slow moan is for you just like look up hair bouncing yeah he's just a gorgeous man with the hair. He's going to get the commercials in ASAP. Yeah. He's got a head and shoulders coming up real soon. Speaking of the Matt liner to the draft, people are saying. Yeah. Well, it's hope not. As far as looks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm with that. Sex appeal. He's got it all. He does. He does have it all. That's Sam Hartman. Hartford. Hartman. He's so hot right now. Our guest today, Troy Paul Molo, right?
Starting point is 00:20:03 Sam needs to call Troy immediately and say, hey, let me talk to head and shoulders. I'm get on those commercial yeah yeah yeah yeah great great head of hair what yeah like and going off of your Caleb william stuff too it's like uh and look everybody the way it trends now in the combine guys opt out they don't participate a whole lot which is fine like you totally get that there if anything there's wrist injury like a better 40 time doesn't make or break you so why do all that stuff but as far as opting out of medical stuff and the interview process like that is the one time of the year we're literally all 32 teams GMs front offices coaches everybody is in one building. So to me, it's like you want to, you want to show that competitive spirit in front of
Starting point is 00:20:42 those guys. Yeah. Whether or not you're out there on the field performing, like, that could be whatever. Like, yeah, you might be the number one overall picking the draft. But as far as checking the boxes for medical, shaking hands, like doing all the things and kind of looking like that competitor, not only a competitor, but showing off like, you know, your leadership intangibles. Right. You don't want to, you don't want to give off the vibe of like this is a massive me guy and this could be a huge risk taking them this high. Yeah, because before the season even started, it really turned into this is what Caleb Williams's year. He's the number one overall pick. He should maybe sit out this final year and be done. And then USC started to lose. They were there
Starting point is 00:21:17 contenders at first. They started to lose. He's found crying. He's doing press conferences saying, I just want to hug my dog and eat some skittles or some bullshit like that. Then it's all, he wants the equity in the company. And so this year has not been a great year for Caleb Williams. As far as from an opportunity to know that this guy should be the one overall pick, having the magnifying glass on them and people now picking them apart for a lot of reasons like we are on the show right now. So it might not be fair criticism. This is just how it came off to me personally is that this guy's coming off as an eye guy. Yeah. But back to Sam, dude. Let's talk about Sam and his beautiful hair because I know there's one place he probably goes to get his hair done at that place.
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Starting point is 00:23:07 I don't want to butcher his name, but somebody wrote about the dynasty in defending essentially Tom Brady. So I guess A.B. comes across A. B. came out of Barstool. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And somebody's just like talking about Tom Brady, and I guess A. B sees it. And then
Starting point is 00:23:23 I guess just assumes here's Dave Portno and his minions at C-T-E-SPN defending Tom Brady, which is hilarious. But there's also a really funny part of me that believes that A.B. doesn't know that there's a difference between Barstil and ESPN. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:40 Yeah. Media is all media. Regardless of whether he knows that or not, it's a hilarious move to put CTE in there when everybody has come in AB for CTE. And now he's essentially reversing everything on a guy who is openly said he's never been punching the face, even though he deserves to be punching the face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:56 He's never had head traumas in his entire life. Right, right. And he's using CTE ESPN, which is also funny because ESPN. Yeah, no, it's hilarious. And he was on one just over the weekend because obviously you wake up the stooleys and wake up the barstow crowd. So he would also feed into it. And you know, A.B, he's big on the whole. Oh, he came at Caitlin Clark too.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Congress to Caitlin Clark on becoming an all-time leading score. That is funny. So it seems like AB's transition is not going the greatest. I don't know. It could be. I mean, in my opinion, like if you're coming out, obviously there's some funny stuff. But being this, being verbally on offense like this in a negative hate way. Like he came at Shannon Sharp.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Like to me, if everything is going well outside of the game that you transitioned out of and chose the transition out of, if everything is going well, you'll see a good balance if that is your style. Like you'll see that, okay, he's doing solid. But nothing that comes out with A.B. Is ever that positive? Right. Any headline that comes out, it's always him in trouble, not paying something, not paying
Starting point is 00:25:01 some bill fucking somebody over yeah he's in dubai throwing his piece around yeah might have been a positive for him because he had a drake piece yeah he's yeah he's just he's like in a public pool drink yeah he's just at his it seemed like probably on his private jet i wasn't looking too closely but seemed like he's on his private jet it was definitely his private jet i'll tell you right now it was a private jet i looked very close yeah yeah yeah so did dave respond uh oh yeah he said funny is funny because that was hilarious i mean the saltine cracker It's a great response too by Dave. Like, because if you get got like that, that's a good got.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Yeah. And it's kind of like if you had the first shot and it's that good, there's really no coming back from unless you have an absolute haymaker in your back pocket. So to just accept that that's a funny joke is even more. Right, right. No, I like that. That's funny. A.B.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Yeah, dude, he just, he is like yeezy without the genius. You know? Easy without the genius. Like you watched the way Kanye, operates. And even with the anti-Semitic stuff and some of the crazy shit he said, people still look at him and have
Starting point is 00:26:09 clips about, you know, what's that song that starts, ding, ding, ring. Runaway by Kanye? Yes. That song. Like, there's people still to, like, guys breaking down how they came up with that and how his work ethic was and how he's such a genius when it comes to hearing things musically, like,
Starting point is 00:26:25 even with all the bad shit. A, B, just has the bad shit. Yeah. And thinks he's a rapper. Right. Because, uh, did you see Kanye West's Super Bowl commercial? Shot on an iPhone. And it's him not even saying things clear. Like, go to YeeZ.com.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Y E-E-E-Z-Y.com. Spent $7 million on that 30-second commercial. He's got so much fucking money. You know what you made off this? How much? $21 million. No shit. $21 million because he decided to go and do this.
Starting point is 00:26:54 He's in the back of a car and looks like a parking garage. No, no, no, that's outside. He's just in a really cool truck. So with Easy, it was like a designer brand to start, obviously, and it was very expensive clothing. And then they made all the pieces $20. So then they sold $20 million worth of units or whatever stock because they dropped everything. But yeah, that you got to love an iPhone video. Super Bowl commercial.
Starting point is 00:27:20 People put millions and millions of dollars into their commercials and then pay the $7 million. That's a genius fucking move to do that. That is incredibly smart. It's a Kanye move. I don't know. Most of the boys might do in a few years. Yeah. I need you to go.
Starting point is 00:27:37 I need you to subscribe to Bustin with the boys. Please. Easy. Save us. All of our merch. St. Patty's Day's coming. Go buy it up. I did see yours.
Starting point is 00:27:45 $7 million. I saw your little plug on Instagram. Yeah. 200 and how many degrees in the Redwood sauna? 280. For 80 minutes straight? Yeah. Why'd you do that?
Starting point is 00:27:57 Is that a protocol that I don't know about? Are you being serious right now, dude? I want you to tell the truth. Tell me how you did it for that long. I don't need to tell the truth. If you watch the video, then you know that I'm joking. CTE. Literally in the beginning, I had warning.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Do not take this sauna protocol seriously or something like that. Then the next slide said, again, please do not take this. Oh, yeah, I just saw that. Sonoma protocol seriously. I turned it on. And then it says, but everything else is true. And it's me shouting out like, hey, kiss me. I'm a boy.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Go get our same buddy, same merch. I didn't read, I didn't read the, I didn't read the warning. I was the kid that watched Jackass shows and when Johnny Knoxville was doing the readover of warning. Please do not perform these stunts. I didn't listen. Hey, come on, man. God damn it, 280 degrees, 80 minutes?
Starting point is 00:28:48 Yeah, I was like, oh my God. You're dead. You're dead. You're dead. I thought my boy is superhuman for a second. I thought you were superhuman. Will, I thought you were a Superman. Yeah, probably you're probably saying like,
Starting point is 00:29:01 oh my God, how in the fuck he's got to be lying, right? I should have texted you before because I really thought my head like, I don't know about that a protocol I got to start doing. I'll literally do that to myself. I might do that tomorrow. Oh, thank God we had this conversation. I'd be dead.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Oh, I know. Yeah. You're like, well, I'm going to fucking now I got to beat it. You're just constantly throwing water on the heater the whole time. There's 81 minutes. How do I get it up to 280?
Starting point is 00:29:22 Just dying, burning. Slowly turning into a raisin. Yeah, dude. So thank God you saved my life there. All right. Cool. And it really slow cooked brisket at a lower temperature than that. God damn it
Starting point is 00:29:35 Oh, I love you, brother. I love you too, man. I love you, bro. God damn, it's tough to be this dumb sometimes. Hey, but guess what? We're going to Miami this week. Hell yeah, we are. For those you're going,
Starting point is 00:29:45 all the boys are going to South Beach. Yeah, we're going to fucking South Beach, dude. UFC 299 is upon us now. Pretty cool opportunity that Senor Hunter has graced us with. If you want to tell them the plan, or you just want to let him know that something's coming out on Friday, Thursday. We can tease it You tease it
Starting point is 00:30:05 So the boys will be in Miami Starting on Wednesday We'll be boots on the ground At the UFC 299 press conference The Wayans We're going to be doing some fun stuff Behind the scenes with UFC Potentially
Starting point is 00:30:18 There's some rumors out there That we might be having some conversations With the big dogs on the card That is yet to be determined However then we will also be At UFC 299 Which I am stoked about Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Like everybody talks about the Miami. Like the Miami card is usually one of the biggest cards of the year, like top four. So it'll be sick to be there. But we will be there. We'll be making some content. We'll be having some fun. All thanks to the boys at UFC, Dana Hunter. We appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:30:46 She's like we got to run 10 miles. I don't know. I can't run 10 miles. I try to explain Hunter that on the phone. I cannot. I literally my knee won't let me run 10 miles. He doesn't deviate from me like, oh, 10 miles. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:58 And here's like one. It's like Max Crosby. I know. Into your shoes. Yeah. Which is just nuts. He's a different animal. Yeah, but you don't got to waste money like that, Max?
Starting point is 00:31:08 He loves to. You know what I mean? It's designer everything. It's designer everything for him. Next up. Let's get, we'll get some new ones. Yeah. Those I only wear him once.
Starting point is 00:31:17 He was like Derek Henry three years ago. He only wears a suit once. Right. Yeah. But yeah, Miami's going to be sick. I've only been to Miami to play. And that's it. Have you ever spent time in Miami?
Starting point is 00:31:27 Oh, we did. Not really. For, I mean. Barstle when we first got a barstle. Yeah, the doesn't say like not really. What's that? That's where we signed. But even then, like, it's not like we spent time there.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Like, we're like, you're like, we're like bouncing around this stuff. Sorry, my back is fucking killing me. Still. Yeah, from that, that compound last week. We'll get that. It feels like a knife is in my lower lumbar right now. My in between my L4 and L. You're going to massage you real quick?
Starting point is 00:31:49 Oh. Are you sure? I just, I just, I just. Show me where it hurts. We'll start with the guy next week. Next Monday. I, I, I, next Monday. We were more.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Oh, you're starting with a guy. I'm starting with a guy. Yeah. Yeah, because we have to get this corrected. There's no question. Every time you do an active thing, this happens. Yeah. And I need you right for your games world championship.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Oh, yeah. I mean, I'll be ready there. Again, I'll have anti-informators and everything else cooking. That's the problem. As I'm as the pain goes hard as fucking possible. Then I can't move. Yeah. But you're a gamer, dude.
Starting point is 00:32:22 That's what you do. Yeah. That's the kind of guy you get with Will Compton. Yeah. I'm excited for you doing my partner game. And for those of you watching on social media, We have been training for Beer Olympics. We've been training.
Starting point is 00:32:33 It's good to see. We actually have the number one spot right now and Flip Cup in the whole shop. We do. We should probably get a set in today a couple sets in there. Yeah, no question. But yeah, Miami's going to be sick here.
Starting point is 00:32:41 It's going to be a cool thing. I can't wait for you guys to see it. That content will be coming out very quickly. Very fast turnaround from the boys. If we happen to sit down with a couple of guys, it might be in the, you know, the main card, whatever. Rumors, rumors.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Rumors. Only rumors at this point. But if we happen to sit down with them, you'll get that very quickly. Look for that content to drop on Thursday. Thursday. Look for to jump on Thursday and then also think about this. Hashtag D.K. Partners. We'll be gambling on this a lot. We'll be getting after this one. Yeah. We'll be there in the action. Smelling the sweat. Smelling the sweat. But yeah, you want
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Starting point is 00:34:07 King Sportsbook app. I've actually done it. It is pretty cool. Like you get on there, you get in that, you hit the little social button and you see all the big betting groups in Barstool. Uh, yeah, Barstow betting group is in there and you get to see what all the boys are putting in. So it kind of makes it easy. Kind of makes it like, hey, I have no clue what I'm doing, which I did last week and ended up winning some money. Uh, but just following one of the boys that are obsessed with like college basketball or the NBA. Download the draft king sports book app now and use code bus, BUS. New customers can get a no sweat, bet up to $1,000 if your first bet loses. Only on Draft King Sportsbook with code bus. The crown is yours. I mean, that's up to a thousand dollars. You miss, you'll get that opportunity right back. Yeah. How do you do the friends thing?
Starting point is 00:34:55 It's like a social tab. I think we were in the right spot before. Oh, right here. Social betting groups. There is. It is. 95,000 people following. It's like a social media.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Yeah, I got to miss you. And you can just see like, okay, so-and-so seems like Stephen Chey, he's a big data guy. He seems to have like the propets and the parlays or the units. Hey, this, the amount of units you need to put on this game. So you can kind of just follow along and be like, all right, I'm going to rock with me. Hell yeah. Because we'll be out there for March Madness. We got to get ready to go.
Starting point is 00:35:38 I know. It's going to be a big deal. It's going to be big. I think Nebraska is going to get in. Really? Yeah. That's who we're going for them. But I think Nebraska is going to get in the fucking dance, bro.
Starting point is 00:35:48 a small chance that Michigan gets into. Is there? I think they're still hung over from the national championship. Boys are still hung over from winning a national championship in football. Basketball teams still hung over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Tough time. Yeah. This would be the first appearance Nebraska's ever had, I think, in the tournament. Would you rather have... Maybe to look it up. Please fact check that. So I don't...
Starting point is 00:36:09 I'm not... I know since I've known about Nebraska. Would you rather have your school win the national championship in football and nothing else or win every other championship and be horrible at football. As a football, as a football, I want to win the
Starting point is 00:36:23 football, I want to win the Natty. Yeah, I'm talking about as a fan now as you're sitting here. Oh, as a fan now. Unfortunately, you were incorrect, but the good news is, as you guys have made a tournament, plenty of times. Oh, Robleskis made 26 postseason.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Wait, wait, wait, it says seven. I know. Seven bits to the NCAA tournament. Okay, seven bits to the NCAA tournament. Okay. Okay, oh, 26. About to be eight. When's the most recent time?
Starting point is 00:36:54 Were you guys good when you were in college? No, I don't think so. 2013? Yeah, fuck, right when I left me? I was there, right? Yeah, my next, that next year. Dang. All right, so one time since I had known about Nebraska.
Starting point is 00:37:12 But this will be massive. This will be big. We should be in Lincoln. Well, I guess the tournament's not in Lincoln. We sound so stupid with the college of basketball. Either way, we got to get right for March Maddis because we're going to Barclay H.K. Partners. Yeah, hashtag DK. partners.
Starting point is 00:37:27 We're going into Barcel H.Q. In Chicago. Yeah. We're riding with the boys. I'm going to responsibly get after it those two days. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What days are those? Like March 19th through 22nd or something like that?
Starting point is 00:37:40 It's like that week. Yeah, Jackie, we got to go to Vegas the 21st. Mm-hmm. back in the aren't you just doing like a family trip in Vegas yeah but I turned it into a gambling um I got to work too
Starting point is 00:37:54 yeah yeah I guess first round March 21st to the 22nd of the NCAA and then second round 23rd 24th suite 16 28th and 29 let's go and so on so yeah I'm excited pop my uh
Starting point is 00:38:08 cherry with March madness in the gambling responsibly be a fun time man are we gonna make a bracket and like throughout the shop and then there should be like punishment or like a winner. Yeah, that's probably as likely as our white elephant.
Starting point is 00:38:20 No, that one's easy, though, because we'll just print it off. And all you have to do is just literally fill it out and then you turn it in like an assignment. Yeah, we do have to do that. I'll take charge of it and I'll get the brackets. Okay, football commissioner. I thought you did a good job until you resigned. Hey, I'll do it. I'll do it.
Starting point is 00:38:39 You're going to do it? I'll do it. Okay. All right. Yeah, yeah. Anytime up brackets and play, Willie's about it. Yeah. We'll figure it out.
Starting point is 00:38:46 You can be my guy right next. You can be my hand. Your guy in the chair. Yeah, my right hand. That's fine with me. Yeah. I can't wait to see that fail. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Let's get after that. We're in. We're in. It'll get done right after this. Speaking of other things that I've gotten done, we have restarted NCAA 14 in the shop. Yeah. Right now it's one to one.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Mevers well. We both have victories at our opponents, stadiums. But you just dumb me, though. You figured out how to play the game in the second. game. Yeah, I started to get a little more comfortable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, man, there would be times, I'm like, God, damn it, how do I, how do I stop that?
Starting point is 00:39:24 And then I'm just, like, trying to dabble with all the different, like, play calls. And then I'm, okay, this is what I used to do. This is what I used to do. So, I got a little settled in. Yeah, I got a little settled in. See, offense, I feel very comfortable, like, okay, run the ball, use your play action. Like, I'm, I legitimately think to myself, you know what you're doing on this end. Yeah. When defense hit, I just kind of become the defensive end and, like, run into the tackle. because I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:46 I don't know how to pick. I don't know. How do you pick? Is it why? Why? Defense is also impossible in that game. No, Will had four picks on me last game. And two of them are users.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Well, yeah, if you're, if you user, if you use her, if you use her, if you use her the entire time, you're going to have a. Sowering. We've got to stream that. It's so much fun. Y'all don't want to play me. That's all I'm saying. We'll get some stuff going all where you can. Who do you play with?
Starting point is 00:40:09 Who do you play with? I'll play with anybody. All right. You can be Akron. You would have to play with a. Ohio State, yeah? That's not a school. Do you want me to play with Ohio State?
Starting point is 00:40:19 Yeah, play with Ohio State. Ohio State's really good. I know, I know. Well, is that, that might be Jones, yeah? Oh, it's Braxton Miller. In 14? Yeah. I thought he was my year.
Starting point is 00:40:33 No, Braxton Miller was, I think he was my year. Nasty. They are filthy. Backson Miller, Carlos Hyde. Was Tennessee good then, Jack? 2013, 14? No. No.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Tust love for Jack. Are you an NCAA? That was my freshman year of college, and it was hell. Honor the Bush Jones. That was the start of the Bush Jones era. Recruiting, we were the best in the country. Actually playing ball, it was a dumpster fire. But yeah, I love NCAA.
Starting point is 00:41:01 All right. Yeah, that would be fun. But I think 14 is the best NCAA. There's been, that's one. Without a doubt, it's number one. We should also make a little dynasty, too. Yeah. And create a player that we just have a community guy.
Starting point is 00:41:12 My brother and all have 30s guys in a Madden franchise And they played for like a decade Where like you literally play out it entire season And it's like by the week So each week you play one singular game against one guy In like of 32 teams So then you got to do all the front office stuff Up until the next week
Starting point is 00:41:30 It's awesome So we should definitely invest in some kind of franchise mode Because we gotta get ready for college football 25 And not to mention Little Birdie told me we might be in the game Are you fucking serious? Like ultimate team like on the ultimate team.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Oh, yeah. You've Will. Well, I mean, yeah, college. Hey, listen, now your boy was in 89, I believe. I think, I honestly think. I honestly think. I honestly think Will was higher rated than me in the game. I thought you were in the 90, like low 90.
Starting point is 00:41:56 I was in 92. You, we found that. I don't know what I was. I think I was legit in 87. We found out you were a team captain, though. Yeah, I could have told you that. But like, you went out for the, like, the coin toss. I know, but I could have told you, hey, my senior year, I was a captain.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Well, I know that. But like. And I had. a lot of votes my junior year as well if you're wondering. But back to that, yeah, I think we're going to be in it. Who told you that?
Starting point is 00:42:21 My boy. Whisper it. Blake. Lawrence. From Open doors? Yeah. Gotcha. Because they do a lot of work with the NCDA.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Oh, which, by the way, this would actually be some knowledge that we're aware of. So the NCAA, you know how they're giving all the kids, like, 600 bucks on a free game. And that was like a big, like, viral. Everybody kind of shitting on it talking about it. I would take that. There's like a lot of high-end, like probably the top 100 guys,
Starting point is 00:42:45 like they're getting really good deals. Like they're becoming like ambassadors of the game. So guys are getting paid. It's just not all. You guys, like if you're the bottom on the like depth chart, you're still getting your 600 in the free game, opting in. But ultimately, like all the big dogs are going to be like ambassadors
Starting point is 00:43:02 and getting like well paid. More paid than that. I think the entry fee is $600 and or the entry get is $600 in the free game. Yeah. And ultimately nobody like, say you're a cat who say, middle of the road and you like opt out because you feel like you should get more money like the fans don't give it shit like you you like we we love the game and it's just a uh uh left tackle number 77 yeah you know what i mean you just know who they are like no one's
Starting point is 00:43:24 yeah exactly if you opt in or out like all you need is probably not even need but it's cool really don't need anybody to be in it but it's cool if you got like their names going in it but if you opt out like no one cares no one gives a shit if you off yeah no one gives a shit Thing too is like back, back on our day, when you got the game, knowing that you were in the game, whether your name was on the back or not, was the coolest feeling in the world. Be sickest. Remember when you came in your freshman year and you're like, like I rich her to my freshman year. So there's like, man, am I going to be in the game? Like, or am I going to get? And then you see yourself down there 60 something 70 or who knows what overall you are.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Or just like, that's me, dude, 254. Yeah. But it's like, you know, I'm in the fucking video game. Right now. And now like 600 bucks, dude, it's a terrible business thing. And I'm sure there's a bunch of people saying you can get more. Just do it. because you're going to look back in 10 years
Starting point is 00:44:09 and if you do the shit you're supposed to do, you'll make a lot of money anyway, but that is cool as fuck. Because who knows when NC is going to go away again. Yeah, I actually think all the kids, I don't think, I don't even know if players are actually bitching. I think it's just like, I think it's a lot of the fans out there
Starting point is 00:44:24 and people just making a conversation out of nothing. Yeah, that's probably a fair point. I just think it's so cool and it's such like an honor. And you're like, you get to be part of the comeback of college football, the video game. College football 25 is that's what they're calling it right? College football 20 yeah right? NCAA no oh really yeah as long as the game is as
Starting point is 00:44:48 as it was in 14 it can't be anything like that it can't be madden nothing close to madden madden it's not a fun game to play my favorite thing to do in NCAA is just to create the player and like be a 99 like that's my favorite thing to do like the actual playing the game I could you know I have fun because it were the boys and stuff like that but that's like my bread and butter. And I try to do that in Madden and it was miserable. There's too much like technical you have to release at a certain point. It's like that shit's lame. Just make it easy. They're trying to get way too realistic about it. Way too realistic. It's like this is a video game for a reason. Yeah. Just like NFL Blitz. Like yeah. Obviously it's like we're just tossing the
Starting point is 00:45:24 ball left and right and dudes are throwing it and slamming guys in the ground. But it's simple and it's fun and you can play it for hours. Yeah. That's the good part about it. I hope we can do a dynasty to where all 132 teams could be accounted for. Yeah. Run like a league-wide bustin dynasty. Like you have to play with your team. You get a fan or a player from every team to be represented. You maybe go once a week where, hey, you have to have your game in by Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:45:50 And just if it's not simulated, jump in. Hey, it's getting simulated. League-wide email or something, who knows? See, that'd be sweet except for that's something that I would buy into for four or five weeks and then I would slowly peter off and not do well. This is the first year I took fantasy football, seriously, and that was a struggle for me.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Yeah. Champion, but still a struggle. Asterisk. Astrog, no, asterisk. I have a, I have the crown. Asterisk, no, asterisk. All you guys are just losers whining. But either way, the show goes on,
Starting point is 00:46:19 even if you fizzled out. And then the next year, we'd have to cut you. Yeah. Because, BIA, hey, we need somebody to come in to represent Michigan. Yeah. Blake Quorum. You love Blake.
Starting point is 00:46:30 You really do love him. Blake so much. I like, I like him a lot, man. I hope he fucking crushes it. I hope he goes to the judge. JJ is JJ too.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Yeah. I mean, all those boys are good dudes. There was, I don't, was there any, and you can just say yes, I won't ask a name,
Starting point is 00:46:41 but was there any guy in Michigan that we were around? You're like, I have a bad feeling about this guy. No, I mean, no, but also that one kid who jumped in the bushes.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Who was a, yeah, yeah, who was just a maniac. He was the pass rusher, the D. Yeah, you don't,
Starting point is 00:46:54 like I said, We don't want to say the names. But yeah, number 17. But that's not like, I don't mess with him. That's like, oh, hopefully everything. He stays on the straight. What you saw that night was me. That would like, too, like, no joke, too at T.
Starting point is 00:47:09 I was like, I was looking as I was walking and watching him sprint by me and jumping do a bush, I was like, she's a young Taylor-Law. Hopefully he finds his tail in. Hopefully he finds his tail. You know what I mean? That's all. That's the only thing that gets the right people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Yes, exactly. Hopefully he gets a nice therapist. He figures that out. Listen, brother. We'll get the mommy, daddy, issues out of the way in a little bit. You won't be all right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:28 But yeah, dude, I would love, I'm really going to buy in this, and college football 25. I really am. I'm excited for that. It's going to be such a fun time. Should we go in the shout-out, no free shout-out since we're on the positive vibes right now?
Starting point is 00:47:41 Yeah, I'll do that. Absolutely. Start us off, Mitch. See if I have to be ready. All right, my shout-on, no-free shout-out this week, kind of, it stays in the sports world, but this past weekend and, like,
Starting point is 00:47:54 kind of like Thursday and Friday. There's this one dude on the New York Rangers. He's this young cat. And he is just fighting everybody. Oh, I saw. On every team who's, like, just known as being the fighters. And I think it is so sick that in the NHL, you can just square up with somebody and be like, all right,
Starting point is 00:48:15 we're doing this. And, like, they're just so electric. So my shout, I know, for a shout out goes to the ability to fight in the NHL. All right. It's a good little shout-out, because that is sick that they get to do that. It's a cool thing, too, because the NHL is, like, a gentleman's game. Like, the way everyone operates, there's, like, rules within the rules that people will have to follow and stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:48:36 and to be able to settle a dispute that way is so cool to me. I did have a tweet one time that was, I think it was, like, I think it was like 2016-17. I was like, they should let NFL players do that, knowing good and well. That's a terrible idea. But that... Well, I think it's a bad decision on the players part, because the thing about NHL is, you everybody plays so you get breaks yeah no matter what you get breaks like say you're in the middle of a drive and you just start squaring up and it's fourth quarter like you're exhausting yourself
Starting point is 00:49:05 like why even right but it also it's also different because hockey there's times and places to get in the fight like you don't if it's the fourth quarter or the third period close game two to one type of situation there's no fighting even if one of the worst things happen because you just you know what's at stake is the winner the the winner the winner the winner a loss column. So like if it's first quarter you're down by one, you need the boys to get some juice. Hey, comp, go in there, take out 23. Yeah, you'd almost need a, uh, you'd almost just need a guy on the bed coming off the bench. Yeah, some coke out. Okay, go, go in. You're going to go in for a couple of plays. Yeah. Make sure it's first down. They're probably going to run the ball. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:41 He's smart. Good eyes. If somebody fights, there's not a penalty. They're offsetting penalties. Those guys just go in the box for a little bit. So it just goes back to first and 10. And then a bunch of guys kind of just grab each other and hold each other while these two legit swear off. Yeah, but knowing that the mentality can be that, like guys, like you would have lost your composure. I mean, you would have.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Yeah, you're probably right. Yeah, but. And you take your helmet off because then you just do a break in hands really easily. Well,
Starting point is 00:50:06 there's an art. There's an art to fighting with helmets on. Right. It's a, you have to grab the face mask, turn it, and then it's throat.
Starting point is 00:50:14 It's chin. It's throat. That's what you got to do. If you go punch somebody in the helmet, you're new at this and you're just going to hurt yourself more than the other person.
Starting point is 00:50:22 But there's a quick, little, that's a little move there that for those of you who want to get in a football fight, that one's free. Aaron Donald just rips the helmet off and beats you with it. Yes. Same with Miles Garrett. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:33 He uses them as legit weapons. So you're trying to get into it. And I think in hockey, hockey guys go, they get in their scrums or whatever and they move on. In football, if you get in a fight, that I think that's not over. Whoever lost, it's not over for them ever. Yeah. They're hunting you down. Trump Williams grabbed you, man.
Starting point is 00:50:50 It's over. But I wouldn't even really shit talk a whole lot just because I'm trying to conserve my energy Get to the next plate. I know. I hate that. I hated that about people. Ben Jones would do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:51:03 I would love to like if you're like bantering about jokes or something. But yeah, I was never getting too loud because again, you got to conserve the energy. Ben would spend just as much energy as I would talk to shit buttering the guy up in front of him. Yeah. You're doing great.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Hey, like he'd pick a guy. Got a foot there. Yeah. And I hated that. thought that was so lame. Like, Ben, fucking stop. And then Ben,
Starting point is 00:51:27 there was like a couple times where I would talk shit to like the nose tackle and Ben would literally come over to me and grab my face message. Like, you talk to whoever you want, leave him alone.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Yeah. Taylor, you leave him alone. Darren Sprouls went out to the flat one time. We were playing the Eagles and he was like, man, he should just threw it out here to me. And I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:51:42 yeah, I'm so happy he didn't. Did he say anything? He'd just chuckling. I was like, you're hell of a player. And then I just try to back the out of. Because I don't need, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:51:55 I need guys to think like, oh, this is, you know, you let your guard down a little bit. You lower your level of play for just a minute. Yeah, this guy's a good guy. I'm not going to do him dirty. Yeah. That is funny how that legitimately happens in the league too. Like, dudes literally think themselves, oh, it's cop. I'm not going to do him dirty.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I'll let him get this ankle. Yeah. I remember one time it was like one of the last two years. And I went down and somebody apologized. Oh, my bad comp, I didn't mean to do that. Like, oh, it's all good, brother. Just help me up. It's all good, though.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Just get going to give one of that. Yeah, yeah. I hated the help up thing, too. I never did. Never helped up an opponent once in my entire career. I don't know if I did opponents. I mean, it's like if somebody's down and I'm helping guys up maybe, but there wasn't like a style of like,
Starting point is 00:52:42 I'm going to leave this guy on the ground. I just wouldn't reach for somebody's hand if they reached out. And I had a thing about getting up too. But Derek would always, if it was the first run of the game or the 40th run of the game, just put both of his hands up. And if you were starting a while by, he'd yell at you. Like,
Starting point is 00:52:56 God damn. He wouldn't help at all. You know, when he helps somebody up? You were massive. They put their body into it. Derek would zero percent. He just,
Starting point is 00:53:03 like, let you bring them back up to life like Frankenstein. It was the worst. It was the worst. Jack, shout out. My shout-out never shout-out goes to Jewish weddings. I did it in my first one this weekend. Nice.
Starting point is 00:53:17 And if you don't have been to one, I highly recommend. They're electric. They are electric. And there's just like a lot of cool cultural symbolism that they include. and like a lot of history. But I remember we get in there and most weddings that I've been to before, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:32 they do the first dance, you eat, and then everybody just basically dances for the rest of the time. We, like, everybody sat down. They do dances and speeches. And then everyone gets up for 45 minutes. It was just like everyone holding hands, spinning in the circle. We're hoisting the people in the chairs. And it was just all time.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Like the energy was everywhere. Everyone's having a blast. Just hugging and kissing. So shout out that. And also shout out to my great friends, Alex and Will Godwin who just got married. So had a great time there. But yeah, if you ever get the chance to go to a Jewish wedding, do not pass up on it. It will change your life.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Let's go. I might be Jewish. So I don't know. Hell yeah. Delaney did that one year. Really? Yeah. The reason they're ahead of the game and they have electric weddings, in my opinion, they have an agenda.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Like, they have traditional things that they do. So no matter what, you know what to be excited for. Yeah. Like if you go to a different wedding, you're, if you're, if you're, getting married, almost plan things within, you know, the reception and everything else. Just because it's like, outside of that, it's like, okay, who's going to go out there on the dance floor first? Yeah. Who's going to do this? Who's going to do that? Who's going to do that? You know what's coming next.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Stand up and come dance. Like, everybody get up. This is even like 90-year-old grandmother's like up, like, spinning and dancing. Yeah. If she's doing it, you're doing it. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's amazing. I love, I love the awkward Christian wedding when it's like, music starts and there's like two or three people are like, do we? I think it's the first one in there just start fun doing whatever they're moving getting out there yeah that's uh the worst so great wedding the worst wedding is catholic weddings the worst dude it's the first off it's a leg workout you're up and down 50 times they're washing feet over there and it's literally a a straight communion it's like an hour and a half a lot of weird traditional stuff weird traditional stuff
Starting point is 00:55:16 weird well i mean it's a long time you're not weird you're whatever you're into you're yeah well i'm saying weird and do it in the process i was like Listen, we're not against the Catholic. Weird, like, it's like you have to go through an entire, like, mass. You have to go through an entire service. Everything is very structured in a way of, like, school. Yeah, and by the time the reception happens and it's time to have fun, you're just tired from the thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:39 I spent an hour and a half. Like, let me get some bread or a salad in me before I start going crazy. Right. All right. Let's play bingo. Yeah, yeah. I was going to buy the 50-50 raffle for the quilt. For the quilt.
Starting point is 00:55:49 I used to sell. You know what? Boy used to deal raffle. tickets for coils back in the day. Yeah, the feet washing thing. I never, I never understood that. I was at a wedding one time and they started washing their feet. And I was like, I know this is a religious thing, but I just didn't get it.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Yeah. They're washing feet? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure there's somebody in the comments that can tell us what that means. I think it's like your service. Yeah, service for the other individual. He'd wash their feet. Great.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Love them. What a guy. My shout-out, no free shout-out. Good pivot. Sharing the Wi-Fi password. So when you're at a spot and you're trying to get into the Wi-Fi and it just pops up on somebody else's phone,
Starting point is 00:56:36 they're like, oh, hey, who's trying to get on the Wi-Fi? And you're like, oh, myself. And they're like, I'll share it with you right now. And then boom, you're into the Wi-Fi. I think that's a very small victory for the iPhone. It's being able to share the Wi-Fi password. So that is my simple yet effective. effective shoutout no free shoutout i like that there's power too and being on the opposite end of that
Starting point is 00:56:55 where you shared to someone else you're like you know what yeah here you go yeah yeah yeah yeah think send it off uh my shout out no free shout out came to me yesterday i had uh dinner with dennis kelly after the combine and uh my whole approach to the dinner was trying to get him back to move back to nashville and he's like oh will's not doing it for you and i was like no you know will's great but you know we're together every single day i'd love to have you around i'd love to have an outlet every once in a while and it got me thinking to the fall how to you how like when we're in this building every single day, that I know how I am.
Starting point is 00:57:25 I know how I can be. And to see the little, like, the more you know somebody, the more you can find out how annoyed they get quickly. And with Will, it's very easy to see for as long as we've been friends. So towards the end of the season, it was like,
Starting point is 00:57:37 oh yeah, okay, Will's, he needs a break from old Louis. And so my shout-out, no free shout-out goes to the perfect amount of break you get from friends when you need this to recharge that button and get back to neutral.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Well, hang on, what are my, what are my tics? You just, you get, you internalize, you get quiet faster. Jokes, you're not as joky. It's not a bad thing. It's just like, oh, my boy, he just needs to recharge his batteries. It's all good.
Starting point is 00:58:01 I'm curious. I'm trying to learn about myself. What else does he do? You guys can jump in at any point, but it's really like, this is you. It's an overall, yeah, it's fine. It's an overall energy thing with Will that's just kind of like, okay, he's not feeling it today.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Okay, he's feeling the way it's, it's November and we're not even in December yet, type of halfway through the season just like how people get during the football season. When you get to like, you have a second week in November and you're like, it's not even Thanksgiving yet. We still have half this motherfucker left. So you just see it in the eyes. That's the boy.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Good to see you. Make a joke and you're like, okay, he's not having a good time right now and that's okay. You guys can tell? I think that's just natural for anyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You need time to like miss somebody and be like, remember why you want to,
Starting point is 00:58:49 spend time with them and just being like, ah, you really are getting under my skin. I don't want to see you ever again. You know what I mean? Everyone feels that way. No question. Like, we're legit brothers. So there's going to become a point.
Starting point is 00:59:02 We're like, listen, I need 24 hours. Yeah. Because you would get any time there would be like a small brain, like Will would go to Chicago and I wouldn't go. That Friday, it was like, it seemed like the batteries were recharged a little bit. But you go, you go Monday busing to bet the bus. Wednesday, slips and picks.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Thursday, we're both in Chicago. Friday, we're off to this fall tour break, Sunday, Monday, we're back at it. It's like, well, a couple of those go down and I can just see Will being like, Saturday, Michigan wins, Nebraska loses. Yes, Saturday. And so that's what you just see it. And Will, I was like, yeah, he's, he's kind of over it, isn't it? So that's my shout enough for shout out, dude.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Recharging the batteries. Recharging the batteries. Got to have it, dude. You got to recharge it. Should we go, should we talk pet peeve? Do we want to go twisted question? Yeah, I kind of want to, do we have dad? hat's because I love to hit a dad segment real quick it can be my dad story this is this could
Starting point is 00:59:53 funnel into the pet peeve I'm gonna put this on real quick now listen this new segment for those of you stored up our stillsports.com you can get this merch um brought the segment up what over a month ago yeah this the first time we're doing it so this is for all the dads out there young kids old kids everything in between this is this is a therapeutic session for all of us like, it's going to be a positive thing or it could be a negative thing. Today, for me, as a father, this is going to be a negative thing that just pisses me the fuck off your chest, man. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:00:29 My six-year-old is incredible. Win Rebel Le Juan. She's so sweet. She's so kind. Like, truly the epitome of a little girl. Unicorns, butterflies, rainbows, loves all that stuff. I love it. Barrier.
Starting point is 01:00:42 I hate the fucking whining. voice. The Daddy, Willow took my bunny and then she said that the bunny said this and then the bunny turned away from me and I'm thinking dog. Did the bunny say that? When? Yeah, the bunny said that. I was like, do you think you could be
Starting point is 01:01:02 the bunny's voice? It's like, no, Willow's being the bunny's voice and it's that, it's that daddy that tone. Willow's being the voice. It's like, well, also, okay, stuffed animal, you can be the voice if you want to be the voice too. So go ahead. Be the bunny's voice. Then she goes, win? Yeah. I love you.
Starting point is 01:01:21 I was like, see? Now the bunny loves you again. And then Willow, in true fashion, goes, I don't love you. And turns the bunny away. I'm like, God damn it, Willow. Because Willow's a savage. Willow is an absolute savage. Like, she just takes things and keeps moving forward.
Starting point is 01:01:35 She's a Rocky Balbo of our family. Was that the first time you saw her hanging upside down on the swing? Yeah. I was not sure. Yeah. So going off Willow being a savage, we go over to Lawan's. the Luan's hostess for like an Italian night. We had a great Italian meal cooked up by the one the only,
Starting point is 01:01:50 tailing Luan. And it was phenomenal. But before the meal gets made, the girls are like, hey, let's go upstairs. So we go upstairs. I have Roo over.
Starting point is 01:01:59 It's me, it's me, Roo, Willow and win. Yeah, so we're up in the Bochiaris, and we're kind of hanging out. And then my girls grab Will and just take Will upstairs.
Starting point is 01:02:07 So Will's fending for himself. Yeah, I'm wondering when the fellows are going to come up and look for me or find me like, me and Dave, let's go kicking the property. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm up there and we're in like the player and they're like, hey, can we go upstairs upstairs?
Starting point is 01:02:19 I'm like, oh, what's upstairs upstairs? And they talk about like this, basically this jungle gym that's up in like the attic. Yeah. I'm like, well, I don't see why not. And they're like, well, we can only go up if an adult is with us. So I was like, okay, I'm an adult. Let's go upstairs. I'll watch you guys.
Starting point is 01:02:33 So we go up there and they're playing around. There's like this, there's like this swing. But it's like, what's it called? It's like a, it is a swing. It's just a swing. But instead of like an actual sitting swing. It's like this big cloth that you can kind of. to get in and maneuver in and they can kind of lay down or sit up or whatever yeah and so win is like
Starting point is 01:02:50 hanging upside down has her legs like wrapped inside so she's kind of swinging willow you can tell she's fired up and wanting to do it too she's like i want to swing i want to swing i'm like okay i can help you swing and she's like uh i want to do it like when i'm like okay have you done it before and she's kind of like uh yeah so i'm like all right well watch your sister i'm like when stand over here we kind of go through the instruction and i'm like lean back the first time she does it she's got her legs up wrapped around and she's swinging back and she's having a blast. And I'm kind of curious, like, was this the first time she did that? It was. So I'm the one who's kind of enabling this versus being like, oh, let's wait until
Starting point is 01:03:24 mom or dad comes up and says you can do it. So then Taylor comes up. She's like, dad, you got to watch me swing. And I was like, yeah, you got to check out a little swinging. So we go over there. I'm like, remember, I was like, get your back here. And I was like, we're going to go backwards. We go backwards. I'm like, here, wrap your leg around here and wrap your leg around there. So she starts trying to wrap. I step back. As I step back, she just slips down the swing and just goes head first. Lands on her head. Yeah, lands on her head, just head first into the ground.
Starting point is 01:03:50 And I kind of sit there, I was like, oh. And I'm getting there, like, knowing it's Willow. Willow, like, hits her head, like, on top of her head. And then the rest of her body falls. And she just goes, I'm okay. But kind of like, I'm okay. And we're kind of sitting there, and I'm like, God, I hope she's okay, because I have no clue if this is like the first time she's been doing this.
Starting point is 01:04:12 And it was. This has happened. It's like, oh, yeah, yeah, you're good. she's like, oh, I'm okay, I'm okay. And I'm just thinking, oh, thank God. Yeah. But she kind of just took it, dropped on her head and took it like a champ and just kept it moving. And Willows really liked that, too.
Starting point is 01:04:23 She's like, she's like that. Strong head, bulldog. Strong dad. Yeah, and she's just kind of like, eat shit, dude. Yeah, but anyway, all that to be said, my daughter, my oldest daughter is overly sensitive sometimes, and it's very difficult for me to handle that. Is there anything like you talk shit about your daughter? So my dad's story.
Starting point is 01:04:43 My dad's story comes to us from, uh, Rue, and I'm going to say this is probably a pet pee for Roo about her old man. She loves Frozen. She's into the Frozen world now. She loves Elsa. She loves Olaf. I love Frozen. It's actually a movie that I can, right now I'm still in the, I haven't watched like
Starting point is 01:05:03 a hundred times where I'm sick of it. So I'm still in that phase of we got to listen to Frozen everywhere we go, the soundtrack. If we say, hey, it's movie night, she's like, Elsa, Elsa, Elsa, and then we got to talk her into something else. We watch something else, but she loves Frozen. So I'm putting her down the other night And she loves when mom and dad sing to her And I usually have this old Mighty Joe Young song
Starting point is 01:05:24 I like to sing back after, you know, The Poachers came and everything else But for whatever reason, Rue is now onto she wants Frozen So she wants Elsa, she'll say Elsa, Elsa, Elsa. I don't really know the lyrics that well So I just sing over and over like, let it go. I'm just like, let it go, let it go And I'm going back anymore.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Let it go. Let it go. And then I'll kind of stop me. Here I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm kind of like piecing those together. And I just kind of sit and rock before I put her down for the final goodbye. And then she's like, ayah, ayah.
Starting point is 01:06:01 And she's singing so confidently. I'm like, oh, her mother must have just sang her something the night before. And she's like, I, little did I know that meant Anna. And she wanted to hear like Anna like the front door song or something, whatever it is. Like open up the doors and shit. do you want to build a snowman that's one of them yeah but she's like i yeah i have no clue what she's saying so i just start going i just start singing ayah in the let it go version i just start going ayah ayah ayah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and then she just immediately leans up leans in for a kiss
Starting point is 01:06:33 and she's like bye bye and i go down soon as i tell show about it she starts dying live she's like she wants you to sing uh for the first time in forever oh yeah great song and uh she's laugh and she's like she's probably sitting there like what the fuck is I stand singing right now. Like, I just put me down. Just put me to bed. Yeah, yeah. Dog.
Starting point is 01:06:50 So that is my, that is my dad's story. That is my dead story of the week. I also hate the whiny voice. I hate when they don't get their way in their immediate thing is to start kind of like crying or like have that kind of face. It's like, hey, let's calm down. I touched you in it last week. I'm kind of finding my, my groove as like the grumpy dad sometimes.
Starting point is 01:07:09 And I'm, I'm perfecting it. The last week has allowed me to perfect it. You're really getting there. I know when to become grumpy. and window, hey, that finger, listen. Yeah. You don't talk to me like that. You don't talk to your mom like that.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Yeah. Why don't you go ahead and go do what I asked you to do and think about what you did. Yeah. Boom. Love that. Yeah, yeah. I don't know how to mess with it sometime.
Starting point is 01:07:30 I've started kind of just like if Ruth starts crying, like, for whatever reason, I just start saying like, yeah, more louder. Cry louder. Oh, that's not helpful. She'll stop crying. She'll kind of like stop and look at me. And I'm like, go ahead. You want to cry?
Starting point is 01:07:43 Like, go ahead. cry louder. That's going to help this. situation. I'm pretty sure it's like gaslighting young child. Oh, it is? I don't truly know what gaslighting means. Do you want daddy to push you in the car?
Starting point is 01:07:54 All right, we can handle this a little bit better next time. I used to tell when Wynn was little, when she would start crying, I would just cry also, louder. And then she was like, you know what the fuck is this guy doing? You know, just stops them. See? Yeah. Kind of annoying, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:08:08 But yeah, my kids ripped, dude. Don't fucking get a twist. I love my kids, but. Yeah, it's dad's a dad club right now. Dad's a dad club. This is all, all is fair. I love award, man. This is the dad's venting.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Yeah. Hopefully dads are out there watching, commenting with us, or like nudging their wife and being like, see? There was a situation at dinner Saturday night when Rue got dropped on her head. And I was like, I looked at Taylor. I go, probably when? She's always doing some shit.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Like, got to whispered that. And Tailon gives me this look like, yo, Winn is not always into shit. Like, what are you talking about? Like, give me this, like, gruesome look and, like, walked away. I thought, that's a problem, man. We can't just bitch.
Starting point is 01:08:44 We can't just complain. The boys just can't complain sometimes. That's the fun of being a dad is getting with your significant other and talking a little shit. You want to talk a little shit about your kid knowing good and well, I love this kid. I would die for this kid. I would let my wife die for these kids. That's how much I love these kids. But that's a Ryan Reynolds joke.
Starting point is 01:09:04 I actually wouldn't let them die. But anyway, it's, you just want to talk a little shit sometimes. And like, Talen is big on like, listen, don't let it get out of hand. I understand you're frustrated. If you need me to take tonight, I will. It's like, no, no, no, no. I just want you to bitch with me for a minute. And then we can just move on.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Or laugh at my joke. Yeah, or laugh at the joke. You know, what's wrong with room? Like, she's been a little... Yeah. And she might not, like, have a little smirk or something. I'll just be thinking to myself, like, I need a little giggle right there.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Like, that was all fun. That was all fun. That's a joke. Like, I just listen, smile. Yeah, yeah. Lach of my joke. Women's, you should smile more. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:42 But yeah, sometimes you just want to. a bitch, dude. And if you guys are listening or watching the show and you're able to comment, go ahead and let us know your bitch. Yeah, dads. Hey, we're all in this shit together. We're in it together. We're all trying to get better. You know what helps you as a dad? Drinking a twisted tea, dude. Twisted tea is refreshing hard iced tea with real brood tea with 5% alcohol full of flavor and very refreshing. Twisted tea goes down smooth and there is no carbonation which makes it easy to drink all day long. Twisted tea fuels fun and celebrates extreme fandom on game date as the perfect alcohol slash beverage.
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Starting point is 01:10:48 So we had Lucy come in last week. It was Dave and Sammy. And these dudes, yeah, shout out the boys. Like they came in there. Dave's like this broad-shouldered, muscled out cat, like Tell us, a lot of power lifting. Sammy, this dude comes in. Scron-eared-looking cat, got a beard wearing a, like a Levi's jacket. We're kind of talking, hanging out.
Starting point is 01:11:08 We show them around the shop a little bit. Kind of get their game plan. We started to get the ins and outs of Lucy and how the nicotine world lives. By the way, it's a big popularity contest. Zen and all these other companies are owned by big tobacco companies essentially. So Lucy, you guys are probably, I've seen the comments. Well, they're so expensive. They're so this.
Starting point is 01:11:26 All these other companies can cut margins because they're funded by billions and billions of dollars. Lucy is essentially a mom and pop shop with two dudes that are just trying to make their parents proud, which we found out, Dave, David the owner. We really got to make his dad proud. If you want to have a son finally get the approval of his father, You need to buy a Lucy. But we sat in there. Dave was sitting in the guest chair. And then Sammy was sitting where the boys usually sit in the back on the benches.
Starting point is 01:11:51 And Sammy took that jacket off, bro. Boy, looks fantastic. Sleeper build. That Cooper build. He got that Cooper build. Sleeper bill. He took that thing off. Bane's popping in the arm.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Bicep just fucking out there hanging out. I was like, oh, these boys get after it. And so shout out Lucy, dude, because it was just a good time. The lip pillows feel fantastic. The breakers are amazing. I'm officially an espresso guy when it comes to Lucy's. Mango is a close second. So get them all you can.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Use code bust and I believe for a discount of lucy.com. There's not even an ad read for Lucy today, is there? There's not. And the boys are working on an antidepression protocol. That is not backed by science. That is not real, but we're going to release it anyway. Yeah, anti-depression. Mitch, so the twisted question.
Starting point is 01:12:38 I thought it was just a twisted ad read. But, yeah, a twist of question. My fault, my phone. So this one comes from Jake Knot on Instagram. Jake. Dot, I appreciate you. If you could take one singular item from any fictional world and be able to use it,
Starting point is 01:12:55 what would it be and why? So we can use a fictional item or we can do a weapon, kind of whatever you guys are. One fictional item. What was Thanos's glove? What was a... I had never even seen it, but that sounds like the easy low-hanging fruit.
Starting point is 01:13:23 You kind of need all of the other stuff. stones in order for that to be you have to search the world oh yeah I'm out on that or the universe right it'd be tough there's a couple of my head right now okay go ahead actually there's three Harry Potter's wand lightsaber the ray gun from call duty zombies hey that's a banger dude Harry Potter's wand is not a good one because in the first movie you have The one has to pick you. You can't just have Harry Potter's one. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:05 It has to choose you. Yeah, but we're assuming it's choosing me. Oh, we're assuming that? I think so. I mean... The lightsaber I thought was a really good one. The lightsaber would be sick. Just have a true authentic lightsaber?
Starting point is 01:14:20 Okay, check this shit out. I have Darth Mall's lightsaber. My first thought is the heart of the ocean from the movie Moana. See that movie? Yeah, yeah. That'd be a good one.
Starting point is 01:14:42 I like the lightsaber thing. I thought you were to say Titanic. Oh, the heart of the ocean. That diamond necklace. I hate that thing. Any movie. Start bringing some stuff up. What about Marty McFly's
Starting point is 01:15:00 car from back to the future? That would be a fun one. That's probably my choice right now. I immediately thought of... Magic school bus? Solid one. Solid one. I thought of Thor's Hammer.
Starting point is 01:15:11 You can't pick it up. I mean, we're assuming you can. My first thought is the remote from Click. Then if you've just seen Click, you're not doing that. No, you're not doing that. So, and I don't think you guys have seen this show, but I'm sure you're aware of it, but I'm using Rick's Portal Gun from Rick and Morty.
Starting point is 01:15:30 You can just travel every conceivable reality ever, and you don't have to drive anywhere anymore either. So I think that's what I'm doing is Rick's Portal Gun. What about the Green Lantern's Ring? It's a good one. But then you, I feel like you have to now take on a life of being a vigilante and protecting the world. See, I always thought to myself, man, if Superman was just selfish, you could just be awesome. Maybe the Green Ranger's whistle to take out the Godzilla megazord from the ocean.
Starting point is 01:16:00 That's a great one. Burp, purr, fucking the megazor just comes out of the water for you? I don't know the reference Oh, you don't know the reference? I don't. I don't. The magic basketball from Looney Tunes. The secret sauce?
Starting point is 01:16:23 No, no, that's just water. With the magic that the alien steal from Charles Barkley. Yeah, and all of the NBA players. And all the NBA players. That's a good one. He compliments his own. That's a good one, right, guys? Like a master ball.
Starting point is 01:16:38 from Pokemon. Yeah, but where's the Pokemon? If one comes with it. Mutu? What Pokemon would you want? Mutu. I mean,
Starting point is 01:16:50 Charge. You said bonk on Mutu? You even didn't see the Mutu build? No, show me. Jack's horny, man. It is springtime. Jack gets extra horny in the spring.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Yeah, it's the weather's nice today. Yeah. Have you guys seen the flowers outside, by the way? There's some blooming right now. Yeah. It's got me horny. They say, like, when a girl has a muteu build. I think Charzard would be sick, man.
Starting point is 01:17:15 Yeah, but he was always so disobedient with Ash. That's Ash, though. Yeah, there's a lot of Charzards that don't. So what's your final answer? I don't know. I like all those, everything we're kind of saying. I love the Raygun. I don't know what exactly you're using it for besides just killing people,
Starting point is 01:17:32 but it would be such a great centerpiece in, like, your living room above, like, a fireplace. Yeah. It's the Raygun. another good gun one would be uh the green ranger whistle the green ranger uh flute is that what it is i think so percussion yeah it's from power range sideways another good gun one would be uh golden eye golden eye golden eye is golden gun what am i thinking of yeah the flute you're doing this it's that's what i was thinking of yeah you right yeah yeah yeah dagger but he's playing it yeah the green ranger's flute
Starting point is 01:18:10 That is so funny. And watch this motherfucker, dude. Then your Megasaur just comes out. That is so funny. Take like a transformer. Like, bumble- It'll be a good plug. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Fuck, that's a good one. There's a SpongeBob one, like the Magic Conch shell. He'd want that bullshit. I don't even know what that is, but I know that's a, look up the Magic Conch shell. Give JP the Magic Conch shell. Watch five minutes. yeah we stop this programming so you can watch five minutes of the magic conch shell
Starting point is 01:18:55 so it teleports so i don't know if that's from sponge above so there might be multiple lores of the magic conch but teleports the player to the ocean he's so mad right now he's on that damn cruise of spotty Wi-Fi getting mad i'm trying to see when he gets uh himself in there on the wave he's filming his boys hitting the wave oh yeah the flow board Yeah. JP athletic like that? He had himself number one, I think, when he did, well, you guys all did that podcast.
Starting point is 01:19:32 We all had each other, number one. Yeah. Actually, I didn't. I was on it. Has everybody officially done that podcast? Except us. Who? Daniel.
Starting point is 01:19:43 You got to get on it, man. Do we? Yeah, I thought you and I had a verbal agreement about that show. Yeah, but it seems like if they're getting everybody, you might as well just jump on in for the board. always. What's the name of the show? Two pennies and a dime?
Starting point is 01:19:57 Two dimes in a token. All right. Yeah, we'll do the show. Yeah, I'm not saying like we have to have some verbal agreement. If you guys are watching this, we'll do your show now. Wow, they're going to lose their goddamn mind. We'll do your show. I wonder if they want us together or separate.
Starting point is 01:20:16 I'd say separate. Yeah? I mean, they did everybody else separate. Yeah, that's true. Really aired out on two dimes in a token. how we really feel. Yeah. Really get down to the nitty gritty.
Starting point is 01:20:29 No question. They're going to ask us who's most athletic. Yeah. I got my list. All right. Hopefully I've done enough recently. Are we solid boys? Are we ready to get into Troy Palomalu?
Starting point is 01:20:44 Yeah. Well, tell them what they can look forward to going into the show. Football porn. Troy Palomalu is absolutely everything and more. He talks about the strategy. within the strategy of jumping over the line of scrimmage and how too much strategizing, he had to learn that he just had to go off of instinct.
Starting point is 01:21:03 Can't overthink it. But the way he described, wanting to be the best safety, the guys that he watched, breaking down film, the whole game within the game of football is truly football porn. And it is exactly what you want to hear about
Starting point is 01:21:19 from somebody like Troy Palomalu. And he even gives like, you know, he kind of talks as much about, like, what he did to become who, he was and how much effort was actually put into it like practical things that he did like staying up late like even just obsessing over youtube videos and watching other players and what what wrinkle they would have in their game how he would implement it into it is when he would fuck up and have to talk to the coaches on the sideline about it about why he was making that decision how the steal the steelers were the
Starting point is 01:21:47 steelers back when they won the super bowl um what else did he kind of talk about he talks about even being a dad now and he's still kind of that same guy where he's on instagram looking up you know, dads who he's like, fond of. He's like, okay, this seems like they do it the right way. Like, what do they do? Like, he very much has that student approach and curiosity to everything. And he was fucking awesome. I hate that it was only 30 minutes long, about 30 minutes long.
Starting point is 01:22:10 But he had the, we had him at Super Bowl week, and he was jumping around everywhere, kind of like doing a thing for Doritos, I believe. Frito Lay. Frito Lay. And so we didn't get him as long as, but he did say he would come back on the bus. He said he'd come back on. To me, it was very interesting how somebody who was, so consumed by the game of football when he stepped away from the game he is fully immersed he
Starting point is 01:22:31 is out on football he doesn't really follow like when we when he first walked in before he started shooting he was like i'm a little nervous and i was like why he's like i don't follow ball i don't you know yeah about ball a whole i was like dude we're going to talk about the glory days and get to know you like just known he that seemed like he was like okay good because he thought he was going to have to break down film or something like that and he obviously wasn't extremely familiar with our show but it was awesome dude guys an absolute legend his process too just talking about guys. I thought was one of the cooler things. Stories about Dick Leboe.
Starting point is 01:22:59 I'll let you guys listen to the show, but there was a thing that Dick used to do with the tightens that he did every single year. And he knew this whole story verbatim. And it was very cool. And it's obviously started with the Steelers. So that was awesome. Before we get in that episode, let's talk about cars.com. Cars.com is a leading digital marketplace that connects car shoppers with their perfect car, celebrating 25 years of helping shoppers, research, find inventory, finance, and sell
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Starting point is 01:24:12 what have you been up to? Like, you've always done a very good job of staying under the radar, and he was getting into his two boys, 15 and 13. They're starting to get into think of it with sports. And what I wanted to ask is what's it like being like a, you know, being like one of those sport fathers, being those sport dads, like navigating that. You're talking about teaching them hard work and everything else. Well, to tell you the truth, like once sports are over with and, you know, like you get into the stands, you become no different than any other dad. That's what I realized.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Like, like, first of all, for my children, they don't give a, they don't care what I say, whether it's about football or not. Really? Secondly, is I don't, like, you know, the crazy sports dad thing is, is I've embodied that completely. I've tried my best not to be that person, so it's pretty funny. I've been all that. I've been the sport dad. I've been the coach.
Starting point is 01:25:04 I've been all that. And that's kind of been my experience since it's football, to be honest with you. We had Ed McCaffrey on here. He's talking about obviously his son, Christian. He's playing in the Super Bowl and all that. And Christian was on last year talking about all the crazy things his dad would do during the recruiting process, putting weights in a. socks. We weighed more. IV during in the middle of school, pick him up for a night game, get an IV.
Starting point is 01:25:24 He went to a private school and he had to wear jeans and his dad be like, jeans a little heavy for game day, huh? Like, do you catch yourself like, obviously having the success you did in the NFL and you see your young boys like. No soda. Yeah, no soda. No carbonation. You don't have had the belly.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Yeah. Like you see your your young boys like starting their process. Yeah. Is, do you ever catch yourself being like if, you know, hey, sleep, routine, diet, all that because like when i mean all men didn't play in the league but you know we just kind of ate whatever right it was high school you kind of just figured it as you win but you having that knowledge like have you try to put that on your kids at all yeah but then you but then you but then you evolve towards doing what most optimal for your body and for your health yeah it's kind of tough to be honest with you
Starting point is 01:26:06 i i'm geared i'm geared very much type a although i may not act that way you know so i am very regimented and how i view things how i do things so funny enough is yeah, absolutely. I watched that Ed McCaffrey, like his inside the NFL and everything that he'd done. That's how I'm obsessed I am. I study other fathers to make sure like how can I be a sports dad. So aside from that, you know, a very infamous father and who I think is unfortunately characterized that way, Marv Marev Marenavich was my trainer. So he was kind of like seen as the ultimate sports dad and, you know, bestowing all of his knowledge on his son. So, yeah, there is a certain balance there, absolutely. But without a doubt, you know, as you know, and you learn in the NFL is it's always the little things. You know, everybody does the big things. It's always the little things and the accumulation, those little things that kind of make the big difference in those inches that are millimeters that you try to gain throughout the sport. And for my son, it's a little bit of that.
Starting point is 01:27:16 You know, I'm not telling them, you know, wear jeans or not wear. jeans or any of that sort of stuff. Without a doubt, I tell them how important sleep is, how important hygiene. I'm saying this for all the other kids out there is, you know, the most important thing for kids and for any athlete is sleep hydration and then the diet and then the therapy and then the training. So the things that are under your control are the sleep, the diet, you know, and the hydration. So that's one thing that I am very, you know, strict on is like, no, man, you got to hydrate. If you want to play two sports, you want to play five sports, whatever the case is, like these things are really important.
Starting point is 01:27:49 So I am pretty strict about some of those things. Are they both very different? Is one more type A? Is one more like you that you feel like, okay, I can coach him this way and coach the other one this way? Oh, yeah, absolutely. They're exact opposite. One's very geared towards trying to please everybody, and one of them is very much about himself. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:09 Do they understand? I'm sure they do. But finding like that interest of like, oh, my dad played at this high level. He's this Hall of Fame guy. like the things he says, I'm more of a sponge or is it very much that, you know, since you're the dad, one or you're out the other at times, and then their coach says something like, I've been trying to tell you this the whole time. To be honest, I joke that my kids are like that, but they aren't. They're very, I'm very blessed. They listen really well. They do, you look up old highlights and
Starting point is 01:28:39 things like that, but, you know, I'm very fortunate. Again, we have a very great relationship with my two boys. Do you love looking back at USC and watching that hit you put on, oh boy, what was it on special teams? Yeah, I don't even know what you're talking about, man. Funny enough, on that hit, it was Aaron Lockett. Yeah, it was a terrible. It was an ill-timed hit. But what I always tell people is that was the third one. The two before that were perfectly timed.
Starting point is 01:29:07 So if you were to watch the whole game, you would have saw the two before that. But my wife was like, I had met her at that time right before, and she was like, man, that guy's a cheap player. I hope I'd never meet that guy. I'd say something terrible to him. I'm like, yeah, I wouldn't want to meet him either. A piece of crap that guy was later found out it was obviously me. But, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:28 That's so funny. With the kids, like, sticking on that for just one more. Like, was there ever a point in your life as your kids get older? They discover, they go to school. Their kids are talking about your kids' friends are talking about their dad. And, like, tempering those expectations as they kind of go into sports. Like, hey, you don't have to. the goal is not to like achieve what I did.
Starting point is 01:29:48 It's like to be the best version of yourself. Did you ever have like, were they ever struggling with that or anything? Yeah, I think naturally they're, I mean, my son plays football. They both, they both be playing tackle football. So I think naturally they're going to deal with that. And I mean, you guys have been in this, all, we've been all the same circles. You know, these things aren't to an advantage to anybody in our circle. But I, I tell them to embrace that.
Starting point is 01:30:11 You know, that's only going to harden them, make them even better, you know, in a lot of ways. And also is, you know, I've also been on the other side of where I've always been the jealous athlete. I was trying to knock down the who's ever on top. And, you know, there was a lot of bad characteristics that I had growing up because of that. So, you know, I try to coach my son, like how to deal with people that have similar character of how I was, you know, growing up very jealous, very competitive, very alpha type. So what they do have is they have, you know, somebody who's got a lot of life experience. you know, that's able to impart a lot of knowledge. And to their credit, they're great listeners.
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Starting point is 01:33:02 those safeties that you were jealous of all of them to be honest with you but are there a couple or is there one that you're just like so every year I every year I watched five safeties and I would literally watch every single one of their plays and I would make a highlight tape and a low light tape of all of them. So that's what I did throughout my whole career. Ed was somebody I watched every, I would watch every single one of his plays. So obviously Ed is somebody who admired, but there's a bunch of guys like Donovan Darius, Bob Sanders, a lot of guys that don't get a lot of credit that, you know, were Hall of Fame type caliber players that didn't have length. And to be very frank, man, I was in the most beautiful situation in Pittsburgh. I had a Hall of
Starting point is 01:33:44 Defense Coordinator, Hall of Fame head coach. Man, you could put any of these players in my position. They would have been just as successful as I am. I studied. I was obsessed with the game. I broke down safeties in this way and even cornerbacks in this way. So I don't say these things humbly. I see, I study these guys.
Starting point is 01:34:04 I studied everything about them. You know, I studied father. I studied McCaffrey. I'm not telling you. So these sort of things aren't like, that's obviously. see who I am and maybe a part of my success as a football player, but it's just who I am. It's the things of how I view, you know, trying to be a father or trying to help train athletes or whatever the case is.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Were you very, was all this, this student of the preparation? Did you have all this in USC and it helped carry you into the league? Or did it obviously develops over time, but did you kind of have that sense of urgency and preparation at college? No, I absolutely developed it over time. And what I did is I studied the greats. Like if anybody at this period of time knows, like saw how Ed Reed, how much he talked about how important film was and he didn't listen to that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:34:56 Like this, he was talking in college about this stuff. And I'm listening to him in college. And so, like, all of these sort of things became habits for me. You know, you hear here and there about what Tom Brady is doing and all these guys about health, wellness, longevity and, you know, how to keep a sharper edge. And, you know, you hear about how other athletes rob, you know, like Gilbert Arena is talking about how he watched Kobe Bryant play and how he learned from these guys. And honestly, it's very simple in that way. You know, you've got to have a student mindset in this sport. You're not going to be original in anything.
Starting point is 01:35:30 There's a lot of great players that have done a lot of great things. And you guys have walked in these shoes. It's no secret, man. It's sacrifice. It's grit. It's hard work. It's no special talent that anybody else has. so you know as long that to me is it was my mindset so that's why i learned from guys like ed
Starting point is 01:35:51 guys like donovan darius a lot of safeties that i studied um that aren't quite you know very famous out there you when you're talking about like hall of fame de coordinators dick leboe he was with the tennessee titans for a year and he this is a guy who like walks into a room and you're like holy shit dude that's dick lebo yeah and he's a legend and there's so many things that we We went and played the Steelers on Thursday night football. We got destroyed. It was like, it was A-B catching the ball in the back of his head. It was just an absolute, they Molly waft us.
Starting point is 01:36:20 But like he brought all these other players in, these Hall of Fame dudes. Is it Kessel? Yep. He bought him and a bunch of other guys and they had conversations with us. But one of the things they always would tell amazing stories about Dick and, like, there was one time for Christmas, right around Christmas time. We'd have a team meeting. I don't know if he did this with you guys, but he sat and he read the night before Christmas in front of the whole team. No, he didn't read it.
Starting point is 01:36:41 He didn't read it. He recited the entire book or story, like verbatim. And so, like, are there any, like, some Dick Lobosisms that maybe the world doesn't know about as much? Well, to extend on that story, though, this is something he did every year. So it was like a tradition on the last game before Christmas. And to me, I always look forward to that every year because, I mean, you experience it. You understand, like, the level of, like, you kind of look around and like, dang, man, like,
Starting point is 01:37:10 this guy's reciting the whole poem. He writes an intro and, you know, an intro to it that he wrote himself that, like, is perfectly in line with the entire poem. And then you, to me, what I would love to, what I loved at those moments that would look around at all the younger guys. And then they, that's when they, like, would really start to say, man, I'm part of something special and very different. Like, they don't do this normally at, you know, in the NFL. So to me, that was always really special thing that he would always do. In fact, even to this day on the night before Christmas, I'll pull up the, the video on YouTube and my family will watch it as well.
Starting point is 01:37:46 But Kosovo, he's, I mean, you experienced him for a year, but in my career, he was everything to me. I mean, he was, came in my second year and we, we left the Steelers together. Man, every day was like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, there was like a wise sage moment with him. It was like, whoa, that was profound. Like, thank you for that, you know. It was just like, every day was that.
Starting point is 01:38:11 And you don't get that from coaches that you like, you know what I mean? Like coaches you get different type of wisdom from. He gave like sage advice. So and it came like at like he was never a yeller. He was another custer, you know. But so it just came like in a very real sense. And especially the fact that he's a Hall of Fame player, you know, the funny things that he would always do is like he'd come to DB line.
Starting point is 01:38:40 He just walked down. He'd go 12, 15, 27, 25. He's like, ah, all of you guys don't amount to amount of interceptions that I have. He would literally just go like that and be like, yep, that's 55. All of you guys combined 63 over here. That's awesome. So, yeah, he was, he was awesome. Was his, was the beauty of his coaching, the consistency, consistency, like having him from a year two to when you finished,
Starting point is 01:39:08 did he ever kind of waver? No, absolutely. Absolutely not. But also, like, you know, I think that's one thing is his consistency. But like, I don't know. It wasn't like he changed his message that got stale. It never did that. But they always kept us excited and happy. I don't know why. It was just that level of respect that we had for him. Such a unique, like, way to go about things. So I feel like the coaching world, at least what we grew up in was like more yelling, more intensity. And there was like such a calmness about it. Everywhere he walked, he comes to you, he remembers everybody's name, tap you on the shoulders as you left and he had a gentle tap on the shoulder. You're like, man, we had a moment. I feel like the first time you experienced somebody like that too, you're just thinking like, okay, there's another way that goes about it.
Starting point is 01:39:52 I'm kind of receptive to this style. Like he's, he like, he's like, he just, for the heck of it, he went like 400 days eating a cheeseburger every day. So then you try to do something like that with like, you know what I mean? Like, you know, you're in a change of a cheeseburger. Yeah, like, all right. It goes like, but yeah. We interrupt this episode to bring you body armor zero.
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Starting point is 01:41:15 up in the line of scrimmage rolling to the middle of field jumping over the line of scrimmage like doing all these like unique things and uh was there a time because I feel like when you're a player and you want to go make a play right coach will be in the film room like yeah you make the decision you better make a play or it wouldn't work out like it was there a time where you're studying these other guys. and you're thinking, okay, Ed Reed just did this or this, the skies just happened. Like, I'm going to start adding this wrinkle to my book. And then when that moment did happen, you're like, okay, the leash of Palomalo gets longer
Starting point is 01:41:47 because, like, hey, he's going out here and making these plays. So, oh, yeah, there's absolutely a lot of things for Ed in particular that he would do, that I'm like, oh, man, I need to incorporate that. And funny thing is, that's what I would use scout team for, to be honest with you. I was like, oh, I want to do scout team. I want to do scout team because I'm like, oh, well, you know, I want to try some of the things I've seen how some of these other safeties do. You know, one thing that I try to tell people about football is it's a hard sport to get really good at in a sense because we spend our off season working out.
Starting point is 01:42:21 So like the mentality is every off season, the only way that we can get better is to get bigger, stronger, or faster. You know, it's not get better at our skill development. So for me, I realize that, man, in order for us for safety to become better, I need to get more reps out. practice. So I needed like see more. I need to just continue to see it. So that's where that's where I really started to change my practice habits to like get more reps on the field so that I could I could see see more. I actually learned that from from a book of the 10,000 hours book I forget. Outliers? Yeah, outliers. And just talking about like that maximize that reps. So I was like, man, I need to maximize reps on the field. So whenever I would go and do scout team, that's where
Starting point is 01:43:06 I was maximized the rest, but then I would also incorporate the things that I saw on film. Like, oh, man, Ed, this guy's cover one this way to make it look like cover six. So he baited that front side post that they wouldn't throw in cover three, but they would throw in cover six. You know, he would do these genius type things. Like, oh, man, they made me, oh, they call cover one, hey, let's make it look like six. And, you know, these sort of things that you could practice. And Ryan would be out there or Chris Hope, you know, the other safety would be out there. So we'd be, you know, practicing these guys together.
Starting point is 01:43:35 The other thing was at Pittsburgh, the unique thing that I had as a role was my rookie year, they made me play safety, both safeties, which were two different positions at the time, and then both nickel and the dime. So, and cornerbacks. So I ended up being like the big safety on corner. So I literally played almost every position on defense. And then on sometimes on three men rushes, I'd be the fourth rusher. So I could run a text. I can run an X game with the with the DN. So you could literally say I played every position. What was really cool about that, what terrible about that was I had to learn them all, which was terrible because my whole rookie year, I promised I gave up a touchdown a game. And it was, I'm serious.
Starting point is 01:44:20 What's funny about that is my second year, if any rookie would have come in and done that, I would have been like, get them out of the game. Like my standard had been crazy different. But anyway, when you look at an offense and then you see, hey man they attack you in this way and I'm a safety I'm like I play every position I know what everybody's doing if I know the ball's going there coach I'm just going to switch with him I'm to say all right you know linebacker you play safety I'm gonna play linebacker because I know if I if you
Starting point is 01:44:49 you play it right but I know the play I'm gonna play I'm gonna blow it up yeah so for me it was that's that's that's kind of where I started really developed I started seeing man I'm knowing everybody's role And if I know that the ball's going to go there, I'm just going to switch positions with him. You would do that in real time in the game? In real time in the game. This one, there wouldn't be a practicing. You'd be out, okay, I have a really good inkling that this is going to happen.
Starting point is 01:45:13 I started getting smart enough to know that when I would do this and practice, the coaches would say, you can't do that. I'm like, all right, I'll just wait for the game to do that. So then during the games, I'm like, oh. But, you know, I'm not talking about, I'm also giving up blitzes. I'm also saying, hey, James, you'd be better in this blitz than I am because I know you're going to get the running back. I'll get the running back too. but, you know, you're just,
Starting point is 01:45:34 like the same thing. Like the same thing, you know, like I know I'm going to get the tight end. Let's switch positions because I'll rush a D gap. You rush contained because I'll get the tackle.
Starting point is 01:45:44 You get the tight end. So like, you know, these little nuances that you can make everybody better, everybody doesn't think like, oh, well, why would you switch a place? Like, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 01:45:52 James versus the tight end and me versus the tackle. Of course I'm going to lose. He's going to win 100% of the time. Yeah. So that's what, that's what started to make our defense really rolled
Starting point is 01:46:02 together. And what's started to hurt our defense late in my career is you get rookies out there. I'm like, hey, man, you got a curl of flight. He's like, what's curled the flat? He's like, what? He gave up a touchdown, Troy, you can't be doing that. I'm like, oh, man. We interrupt this episode to bring you Verizon. Verizon, you already know that Verizon is the network where America relies on, but did you know that you can get the network you want for your, Mitch, Mitch, all good. But did you know you can get the network, get the network you want for your phone, your home. Get Verizon for both mobile and home and save. So you can make sure whatever, whatever it is, you're following. This year's Oscar movies, the hockey playoffs, the Sharps
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Starting point is 01:47:25 hey, you got the half. I'm going to take the flat. So I'm showing cover three the whole time. and coach is yelling at the side, hey, hey, you've got to be back, you got to be back. And I'm like trying to ignore him. And then all of a sudden it's like, you know, I'll get to the sign. I'm like, coach, I just inverted with the corner. I let him play the half. I played the, you know, I just want to give the quarterback a different look. They've been calling this and cover three every time.
Starting point is 01:47:50 So those little things is what Coach LeBow started to allow us. Like, yeah, man, here's the call. Make it right. You know what I mean? Like just giving us that level of flexibility in a lot of ways we're talking about how Coach Tolman does too. How long did it take for a coach Laudeau to be like, all right. Right.
Starting point is 01:48:05 There's going to be a point where you're supposed to be in a couple of two, but you're showing cover three and you go to the sideline, and it's like, you can't do that. How many times did it work? How many times it have to work before they were like, maybe he's on to something. Like let Troy do his thing. I'm a little bit of a politician too.
Starting point is 01:48:22 You know, like I would tell him, you told me this, though. If you tell me it's 100% run, then I'm going to play. a hundred percent run. Like don't, don't tell me it's going to be something that it's not. And that's what I try to tell the players, like, just don't study film to study film. You know, if Ed taught us anything, man, it's like you make plays studying film. Believe what you see is what he would always say. I'm like, all right, I'll believe what I see. So all of these, like, anyway, yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:51 It's like for all the kids out there listening, make sure you understand your install first, know what to do, know how to do it. But no, that is, it's just cool, like hearing those stories. I remember I got to play with Ryan Clark in his last year when he was in Washington, and I was starting to come into the hull and get some play and everything else. And Ryan at practice, he was somebody that was such a student of the game. And you'd be out of practice, and you know how it is. It's like you want to be a situational master. And like whatever down in distance it was, you'd hear Ryan back there chirping.
Starting point is 01:49:18 How pivotal was it? I'm sure that's what made your defense great. Everybody having that level of standard of kind of knowing every situation, know how to talk about it as the huddle breaks, as the formation is coming out, a motion happening. But how beneficial was it to have a back end like that and somebody next to you like Ryan Clark?
Starting point is 01:49:36 It's everything. I mean, it's absolutely everything. And it may not be like that in every organization, but it's absolutely everything to me and everything to our defense. Because the level of trust and exposure that we would consistently put each other in
Starting point is 01:49:51 is, you know, it takes a lot of, it takes a lot of, like, cohesiveness to do that. I mean, when we do some of this manipulation on the back end, you have to understand you're completely exposing somebody else. Oftentimes, that was Ike. You know, like, hey, Ike, we're doing this over here.
Starting point is 01:50:08 Sorry, your man-to-man covers zero with their Chad Ocho Sinkle or Brandon Marshall. So we were always, like, we, that was the only reason why we were allowed to do what we do is because, you know, Ryan's communicating. Ike, cornerback, Brian McFad, and their cover zero oftentimes where, you know, we want to do some cowboy types. stuff. But they held, they hold their own there. The reason why we were, you know, as successful as we were. Man. Mike Tomlin,
Starting point is 01:50:35 just, I was, had the opportunity he coached me at the Pro Bowl in 2016. And just being around him and his presence was very like Dick Leboe-esque. Yeah. Just more of a calming, more like positive and confidence. Can you just like elaborate on him and his legacy as a Steelers head coach? Man, I
Starting point is 01:50:51 really enjoyed his podcast with Ryan. Ryan Clark did a podcast with him. And I was just like, man, I'm so happy people get to see Coach Tomlin, like, like who he really is. Because he's not, he, that's who he is. That's who he is as a coach. You know what I mean? Like I guess, I guess maybe like press conference, like the, he's like the Bill Belichick in the press conference. You know, like completely opposite. But man, it was really cool to see that level of, of who he is. Because when I, I mean, he was 34 when he came to coach the Steelers. I mean, it's amazing that he was that.
Starting point is 01:51:27 young and aside from that that he had a family and had young children so like these kids that grew up in the locker room now now that you like kind of see him so i don't know it's he's an amazing father uh coach i mean later in my career he would we would have dv sessions i learned so much for him about protection routes based on protections and all these different things um so he's incredible actually he's so fortunate to have him coach cower dick leboe that's why that's why i just say humbly but i say in all sincerity man you put anybody in my position man these guys are you can't do nothing but be a hall of fame to be very frank with you how was it that i know and we're getting the the wrap-up signal but i i have to ask like
Starting point is 01:52:13 how sick is it knowing that you pulled off all those line of scrimmage plays i mean you're getting to watch back like diving over the line of scrimmage timing up snaps like that's pretty bad ass because if it didn't work It's called the Troy Powell. You know, that's funny is it didn't work sometimes, but, you know, it goes back to the outliers thing. What I realize is that safety needs to see everything. And that means like not only the formation, not only the personnel, but like how they break the huddle. And you know this, you know the difference between zero, silent count or on two and the urgency that offensive linemen comes to.
Starting point is 01:52:56 You know what I'm saying? Like when it's on zero, man, they're going to get up there and then they get ready. Or if you know these sort of game situations. So the funny thing about it is that's where I started to develop this because I was like, man, everybody breaks the line very differently. When offensive line, they come, it's on two. They break with different sense of urgency than when it's quick snap or silent count. And when you start to see that, you also see it when they run back to the huddle. So I would always tell people watch the full length of the play, as in like how long it takes to make the call.
Starting point is 01:53:26 how long it takes for them to run to the line. And all these things mean something. So the funny thing is when it started to happen, I say started to happen, is I was just reacting. I had never thought about it. I was just like, oh, jumping and then doing it. I'm like, oh, man, oh, wow, that worked. It wasn't until I was like, okay, it's this game situation. Oh, you got to jump it.
Starting point is 01:53:49 And then that's when I would actually jump offside. So I started to really understand how I was as an athlete that I'm like, okay. You have to overly prepare so that you can just be instinctual and be free rather than like be a student out there that's always like, you know what I mean? I really just had to go out there and be free. So when I did jump, you know, blitz and do those sort of things, man, it was, I swear to you, pure instinct. It was just like afterwards I make the plane like, oh, man, it was like a crazy ride. But it wasn't when I was thinking. That's when I would jump offside and do it wrongly.
Starting point is 01:54:22 So it was funny. Well, I know we got to get you out here by. One last. This is it. This is it right now. Like, obviously, as you became more famous and more established as a player and all that,
Starting point is 01:54:34 like the hair was always a thing that people were like, that's how we know it's Troy Paul Molo. Did it ever get to the point for you? You were like, I literally can't change this look up ever because this is, this is me now? Like, I'm a mustache guy.
Starting point is 01:54:45 I can never say, you can never say, you can never say, to me, this is my identity now. I love it so much. But there's got to be a point where like, you know,
Starting point is 01:54:54 maybe you wake up and you had a little bedhead. You're like, be so much easier if I just kind of bicked it and let it run a little bit. A better way to put it is it was always part of my identity before. Yeah. So it wasn't like it's something that had to hold on to. So it was more or less like it was always my identity before I even had it. And it was like it was a specific identity. You know, like my my mother-in-law who's a classic is a classicist, a Greek classicist, would always say all the greatest warriors through all time had long hair. You know, you talked about samurai, Native Americans, the ancient Hebrews to
Starting point is 01:55:26 you know, all of them. Polynesians, they all had long hair. So I was like, oh, okay, I like that. They probably had mustaches, too, though. Probably. Long hair and mustache. Troy, thanks so much, man. We appreciate you, man.
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