Bussin' With The Boys - Tyler Hubbard On Why Florida Georgia Line Broke Up + The Roast Of Tom Brady And Drake vs. Kendrick

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

Recorded: March 4th 2024 | In this weeks episode the boys are here to talk about everything that happened over the weekend. The guys get into the Drake vs Kendrick Lamar rap beef and talk about who’s side they are on, the meaning behind some of the lyrics and who is winning. The guys also talk about the roast of Tom Brady that was on Netflix from Sunday. They recap some of the funnier jokes, who crushed it and the random people that were there enjoying it all. Following the intro the guys were joined by long time friend but first time guest and one of the main members of Florida Georgia Line, Tyler Hubbard. The boys and Tyler get into what it was like blowing up so quickly with FGL along with the ins and outs of the music business. As we all know, FGL is no longer so the majority of the time the guys are talking about what happened between him and Brian Kelly. Tyler talks about how he didn’t want them to break up and how it legitimately felt like a marriage. The boys end the pod talking about Tyler’s solo career and the challenges that not being a part of a group has brought. Tyler has been on an absolute roller coaster ride throughout his a career and he takes us through every twist and turn. Big hugs, tiny kisses. TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro 3:48 Drake v Kendrick Beef pt. 1 7:16 Hubbard preview 9:22 Drake v Kendrick Beef pt. 2 13:04 Barstool Rap Battle 22:05 The Boys Have Been Challenged 25:32 Tom Brady Gets Roasted 34:37 Quarterback Now Receiver, What About The Hogs? 49:4 JJ Watt return? 42:09 Super Bowl Predictions... In May 48:58 The Boys Hairline’s 55:35 OBJ Ia A Dolphin 59:24 Shoutout "The Boys" 1:07:00 Twisted Question - You have 24hrs 1:14:22 Most Athletic On The Bus? 1:21:38 Dad's Being Up On The Scoreboard 1:31:00 TYLER HUBBARD INTERVIEW STARTS 1:31:23 Nicotine Of Choice 1:34:03 Still Getting Nervous 1:35:41 Dealing With The Fame 1:43:41 The Moment They Made It And Their Big Break 1:48:40 The Pinnacle 1:51:44 The Ups And Downs 1:53:50 Why Florida Georgia Line Broke Up? 2:01:43 The Trials And Tribulations Of Going Solo 2:09:15 Telling People About The Break Up 2:13:30 FGL Reunion 2:15:07 First Solo Album 2:17:15 The Behind The Scenes Of The Music Business 2:19:53 Pressure From The Label 2:24:02 Rebranding As A Solo Act 2:32:43 Writing Songs With These Guys 2:37:47 Collaborations Theme Song: Some Of Adams Blues by Quaker City Night HawksFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah, I was. banging that not like us was not like us Kendrick Lamar his little his little West Coast beat did you yeah I did I was listening to this morning I basically listened throughout

you know listen to all their beef songs this morning while I was working out because they have there's like five or six now wait since since Saturday when Kendrick released that glove one the glove one was was the glove one

was the glove one meet the grams no the glove one was like six something oh six oh yeah it's six 16 Dude, did you see the whole thing on 616? Because apparently Drake said something about like, you better come out with a quintuple, it's something I don't even understand.

And there was like a Bible verse of 616, like seven things that God hates. And he goes off in the song, it has seven things God hates. And then there was like the album release date, the producer was Taylor Swift's. And it all like kind of came together. It was like seven things because of 616.

Yeah. It's nuts. Yeah, it's been a back and forth rap battle, as the boys like to call it. I always have trouble. following rap battles because it's just like you have to listen to this song multiple times to understand. I know and you need to know the context of history.

Like I find myself on Instagram and YouTube. Listen to these people breakdown. There's an incredible breakdown yesterday. I forget who the cat was, but it's like seven minutes long or five minutes long. You said no one. Which one did I say? On Instagram? Yeah, I forget.

You sent it to me on Friday. See, that's a different one. That one's just a breakdown of euphoria. Yeah. I was just a breakdown of euphoria. Then this cat breaks down the history of, like, people, a lot of people in the industry like hating Drake. It's like the weekend.

Rick Ross. He goes through like a timeline of it all going, you know, basically building up the way it is. And Kendrick-Kormar having all the, you know, subtle comments and the depth to each little bar that he has. He's like breaking it down. So obviously I don't know a whole lot about this. Does anybody know the origin story of how Kendrick and Drake started going at it?

I couldn't even tell you. Jake Cole started it. But why is Kendrick coming on? See, there's a whole bunch. I would love somebody in the comments to tell me everything that's going on with this because I just don't know how this all started. Yeah, we got five white guys trying to break down. Exactly. And it's, you know, we're just the wrong population to be doing this right now.

But Drake has a lyric that's like, I'm doing 20 verse 1 or something like that, talking about like all these dudes coming at him, but he's still murdering all of them. all this stuff that I just don't get. I don't understand. Yeah. Yeah. Other than the four things my brain red. Yeah, we got these, we got these fun.

I know. We got these flies. It's like a horse fly too. And we're growing them in this thing. The spring is such a beautiful time, but as spring goes to summer. This flight caught some radiation. Yeah. The amount of bugs I have in my house right now is insane.

Look at this motherfucker. I know. He's just ripping around. It's a thick boy right there. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, you have to rest on you. Oh, no.

He don't look like he's resting anytime soon. No, he got all the energy. We need JP to take it. JP's got a little bit of space to work with. Oh! Do you get his ass? Oh, nope, he's right here. He's right here.

Anyway, people probably don't want to listen to us. Is this all? Our TV monitor. Good news, though. We get to do a, we'll get to run through this intro fairly faster because we have a awesome guest on with Tyler Hubby today. Yes. The breakup of Florida Georgia Line will be the headluster.

lining story of this whole thing. And we shot this episode, what, like a month ago, a couple months ago, when Tyler was coming out, he came, sat on the bus. Dude was, the conversation was incredible. Yeah. Yeah, it was one of those classic bus with the boys, organic conversations where you feel like things are just flowing great the entire time. Tyler was very open.

He shared a lot with us. The struggles, the trials and tribulations, the origin story of Florida Georgia Line, all of that stuff. But there's been, the reason why I say we filmed it so long ago, there's been so many developments since then. B.K., Brian Kelly, his ex-examination. ex, I don't know, co-singer. Is that what you call it?

His ex-partner? His ex-partner. He came out with a song that says, You Can Kiss My Boots. Now, if you listen to the song on your own, it just sounds like a guy, have you heard the song? If you listen to the song on your own,

it really just sounds like a guy and a girl broke up and the girl's talking shit about the guy, and he's like, you know, there's a small town, I hear everything, blah, blah, blah. But knowing there was a breakup

and a lot of people and the fan bases of Florida Florida's the line kind of picking aside drawing a line down the middle you got to pick BK or Tyler a lot of fans are coming out and say hey this is about Tyler

all this there's like a snake So we got a country battle We got a country battle We got we got Kendrick Lamar and Drake And we got a country battle Forget Kendrick and Drake BK and Tyler oh yeah We got a southern battle

Going down with the boys Over here in the southeastern area of the country It is so there's a lot to read into But this is actually a great episode He was really gonna enjoy it Yeah yeah yeah I That was a song

that you dropped, right? I dropped. In our group chat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Got you. Gotcha. Yes. Yeah, I didn't get to.

I listened to some of it, but I didn't get to listen to it. Yeah, and you can listen to it, and it's very easy. If I just say to you, it's about Tyler Hubbard, and you go listen to the song, you're like, this is 100% about Tyler Hubbard.

But zero context. To me, I was trying to listen to it, like without having any ear trying to be biased towards Tyler. Right, right. It also felt like a breakup song. So it's a fun. It's creativity, boys.

Boys just getting creative in the lab, getting after it. They want to get in the life. They want the example of Kendrick and Drake like now, right now, they should be taking notes. That's how you need to be handling a beef. Because because whatever albums they drop from here on out, their next album is going to do so many numbies. Yes.

So many numbies. They're no crazy. I mean, Drake does anyway, but, uh, and so does Kendrick, but knowing that this beef is going on. I know it's just got all. It reminds me, it's like, uh, when the rock and the Undertaker, they're showing back up in the WWE. Yeah.

Everyone's going nuts. You got older generations. Everybody kind of coming together. watch all this unfold because the rap battle still hasn't happened for such a long time yeah i wonder there are conspiracy theories about this whole rap battle thing and as it's like shown that if you get in an argument with another person of popularity your number is going to go up because their fans are going to want to watch you and vice versa yeah do you think this has been this is manufactured yeah no could it have been so could it have been though because i love a good conspiracy i know but if you if

you're if you kind of follow the timeline of everything you see what cat williams even when he's on Shannon Sharps podcast. He talks about your 24 people are going to start getting exposed. And people are alluding that to like, oh, this is a, Drake's part of this crew, part of this group, yeah.

Katz-Killians is the black Alex Jones. Yeah, they're both, yeah. They're both, like, Drake is so polarizing. It's like, his latest one, it's basically just saying, like, oh, you're lying, which you don't really know. And then he said he baited him. He baited him to make the songs before that,

but it's like, if you knew you were baiting him, why don't you have, like, actual, like say your phone's out and you're recording yourself like hey we're about to get his ass type of thing and then you're showing yourself give the information like if you're that if you're that much playing chess yeah i don't know why you wouldn't do that to kind of show that off versus you know you kind of sit back you can let comments and the world everybody's words unfold and kind of use whatever narrative fits you know that next song it kind of reminds me a lot of like when a when all the ab stuff was going down from with the raiders and people like oh there's probably more to the

story here there's probably more to the story there and everybody's giving him the benefit of the doubt. And then he kind of allows people to paint a certain narrative. And then he'll lean into that one because that's what best suits him in that moment. The rap battle thing is interesting because there is really a book pretty much written for it. M&M. The rat battling? Yeah.

There's another. There's another. Roan's a war day too. But I'm talking about strategically. Like if you look at MGK before he ventured off and went into the punk rock scene, he had that song. a rap devil. He had rap devil. And it was about M&M.

The next, I think, within the 24 hours, Eminem had kill shot on MGK and it was just him going ham on MGK for a minute. And so, I don't know why. Like, that's why things just seem manufactured to me.

Like all the stuff's just coming out now. Like we're all kind of planning. Can you release and I'll release and you release? Yeah, I don't know. I think it's been fun. Once again, it's a category that we know nothing about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I sit back in my,

oh, some of the boys are dropping the group chat. Oh, another disc track comes out. Oh, shit. Let me take a listen. Yeah. I wonder what he means here. What are what he means there? I'm trying to research articles to stay privy to the culture. You know what I mean? Yeah, I was at Franklin Factory and that when one of the boys put the disc track in the group chat, I was taking a Tuesday. End the bathroom. I just had it on loud. Listening to it myself, full volume. And the whole time, I'm like, I got to listen to this four more times just to understand the lyrics. Because it's difficult. It's hard to pick all that shit up, dude. Yeah. But it's also so important. It's my toot? A little humid in here.

A little sneaky one came out, huh? A little humid in here. One just greased out of the pipes, huh? I think so. I think so. But yeah, that creativity, man. To be able to just go out somebody that hard? I know, bro.

It's fucking awesome. It makes you appreciate Roan that much more. Did you listen to Roans this track on KFC? No, no. You got to check that one out. Yeah. Oh, shit. You got to check that one out.

No. Just murdered him. And cold blood. Yeah. And then KFC was saying that, that they were texting. He's like, hey, I have something written, like, you know, basically asking how much farther do we want to go with this or yada yada?

And he goes, and Roan says, So it was planned. No, no, it wasn't. No, it wasn't manufactured. But KFC's texting with them trying to like, you know, find where the line could potentially be. He's like, if I released this, you know, will you have anything else, blah, blah, and Roan basically responded like, I'll empty the clip. I will end you

If you put this out If you put something out Put something else out But Rhone You don't want to get involved Do we got espressoes Yeah yeah Lock it in with a Lucy

Real quick brother I hate to kill your vibe I didn't want to kill your flow there I just want to pass it over It's like you don't want to get in beef with Rhone Because of the rap battle shit And you don't want to get in a beef with Francis Because of the blogging

If you had to categorize Who you don't want to make upset at Barstole it would probably go Dave number one obviously and then Francis and then Rhone and then probably Big Cat See I don't, to me I don't think Dave would be the number one Really? I don't think Dave would be

If I'm going into a beef thing with Dave Being number one I would be more concerned about like a Francis and a Rhone Because creatively how they would handle it? Yeah like they can they can big brain hurt your feelings Yeah yeah yeah know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, God, damn. I saw a clip of Francis on Instagram the other day doing stand-up. He is so fucking funny. Oh, dude, yeah, Francis is, genuine. Francis is good. He's talking about him and his girl starting to try, and she's got a whole new bag of drinks. He's like, that's crazy. I've been giving you everything I have this whole entire time.

And I just think to myself, bro, how do you think of that? It's amazing. Yeah, yeah, that stuff. Like Francis and Rhone have the ability language wise, verbally, to just, somebody like me, you just got to go animal brain, and you just resort to fighting. You know what I mean? Because there's nothing you can do.

You just get so bamboozled. You kind of can't keep your wits to you. If it's like Dave or Big Cat, like those would be fun battles, but you know you're just like, you know, I don't know, they seem a little bit more fun. Like Roan and Francis, you're kind of sitting back like,

man, what the fuck is about to happen? Yeah. The reason why I brought up Dave is number one because his following is so strong. And he just, he literally, he has a track record. and he has receipts of ending people. Yeah, I mean, you'll get ratioed into oblivion.

Oblivion. Yeah. But as far as reading and listening to this stuff, it's Ronan. Creatively, if you're talking about just one-on-one, like to verbally go back and forth with Dave or Big Cat, you feel like those are like more suitors for your category. Right, you could ultimately try to curse words and a lot of insults, but at the end you're kind of just like just trying to be like,

trying to be funny about it. Like Ronan, Francis legitimately are just in a different category than us. That we wouldn't be able to handle it. Yeah. Yeah. I would say on whose bad side I wouldn't want to be on, in like a beef in the Barso world. I would say, I want to change mine.

I'm going to change mine as well because I think Dave does go down the list now. I'd say Francis, Rohn, Dave, that would be my top three. That'd be my top three. It's a good list. It's a good list. Those are the three. something about sneaky guys though Rico

and Jersey Jerry not from them just from their little army that just follow them around and are truly willing to come a cause you and actually murder you I feel like they're

they have people that legitimately if like it really came down to it would come to your house and kill you yeah like for them like everybody has audiences they have soldiers yeah exactly yeah those would

that probably be four and five because Big Cat never gets malicious. Yeah, yeah, Big Cat. He's just trying to have a good time. He tries to have a good vibe. He loves a third trip and never said. He does try to find the line. But he tries to do in a fun way where we put like the draft.

When we were there, he pretended like, oh, hey, who are you the whole time? It's like, oh, he's having fun. Yeah. I'm glad he's having a good time with this. Yeah. As opposed to Dave, who's just mean. Yeah, he'll come after you. He does.

He does. He just comes at you. So is your top three the same? Yeah, I mean, I would probably put Dave at three. after this conversation. Throw Rico or Jerry in there so that way we can just have, just have different lists.

I would go, top three people, you don't want to kind of get in a spat with. I would go, Francis probably one, just how he handles himself on the mic and in the writing category. I would put Roan 2

because he's just more creative and wittier than both of us. And then I probably put Jerry 3. I think ever since Jerry after dark, ever since the whole and one, the chat. He's just got the chat.

He has the chat and the chat will handle you. And like I said before, if you and Jerry truly got into it where there was like true beef, like a Kendrick and a Drake situation, Jerry's gonna have

a baker's dozen people lining up, lining outside your door to truly actually not joking murder you. And they're ready to go. It's Jerry's Army, right? Yeah, Jerry's Army. Jeremy's Army.

What do we have? What do we have? Hey, I'll tell you what, and I don't want this, don't, don't sleep on Kurt Minahan. Oh. Well, we were talking about this.

Don't sleep on Kirk Menehan whatsoever. I forgot about that one. Hey, and to all the many fans out there, people, I'm not trying to fester up nobody. Do not sleep on Kirkmanahan. We were talking in Alabama before the live show. I would love to feel the wrath of Kirk Menehan like losing his shit on me. Yeah. I would appreciate that moment of just not where I'm being the bad guy, but like he's getting worked up.

And I was like, hey, what's the big deal? And then he just fucking, I'm the person that he decides to go in on, even though I've done nothing to him. I would enjoy. He'd find an angle. I don't think you just, maybe you'd be able to smoke him out, but he'd find an angle. He'd find it.

He'd find an angle. Well, when I was watching Barstall Survivor, it seemed like he just took whatever angle he wanted. Yeah, but he'll find, he'll find him in their moments. And then that's when he gets you.

That's how he snipes you? That's how he snipes you, bro. God. That Barstall Survivor thing would be a fun thing to do. I think they're working on trying to get another one going. I'm down. I know you. I know you're on the list.

Dave asked me if I wanted to do it. I was like, yeah, I would absolutely do it. I think that'd be a lot of fun. You were there, uh, biz, Witt. I know, I'm not trying to sleep. I'm not trying to be in the office for who Witt is. I'm like,

Witt, I'm telling you. It's kind of a blast, bro. Witt is maybe the most underrated Barstall talent. I don't know if he's underrated. I think he's, he's probably right. Yeah, I mean, he's, he's well on the unname show with Dave.

Yeah, I just, whenever I'm around him, I just like, when I, like, the reason why I think he's underrated is, when I get around Witt, I enjoy myself more than I expect to enjoy myself. You know what I'm saying?

Like I get there I'm like oh we're gonna do a sandbagger with the boys I'm like oh that'll be fun I don't like golf But it'll be fun to hang out with the boys And then I sit with Witt in a cart for nine holes And I'm like this is way more fun than I expected Yeah, Witt is funny man

The best they're the best Self deprecating That's the best humor Absolutely I think before you get away From people roast in each other It's probably the perfect segue For the Tom Brady roast Yes

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He basically sits there and he has the five waters. And I think that he wasn't allowed to do it at school. Like the teacher's like, so they had to go off scripting. He challenges like me, Taylor, and I think Matt's a little Jack too. Yeah. Kids got a little muscle on him.

Bit of a specimen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He challenges like me, Taylor and McAfee. Yeah. Challenge us. He's got five waters lined up, five bottles of water. And he basically just goes like,

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That is white Look at him He's got little shoulders on him He knows what he's doing With the one size too small In the t-shirt too Bro obviously plays middle linebacker Yeah

I mean I've heard of it. Oh, it's four bottles of water. You can just play it though. Like, as we're talking now, cut us out and just play this video. Yeah. You can see, look, and I like his technique,

but here's what he does. He does a really good job of hiding the entire bottle. See, when he crushes it? You don't know if he's taking all that. There's probably a couple ounces in there. That's the cheat code. I don't know, bro. He's fucking squeezing life out of him.

But I think we should try this. I mean, I commented. I mean, yeah, I'll do it. I'll fucking put him to rest Hey, you might have met your maker, bro That's fast That's fast There's also water

So meaning much easier Need to know if you threw up afterwards Yeah, I gotta know if he threw up afterwards Water, anything that's not carbonating Anything that's not carbonated It's obviously easier to drink Because the carbonation will kind of flow up your tube a little bit

That's right Because the way you put down that twist of tea And then it kind of just came out of your nose It was so fast Yeah, I had that deviated septum. Yeah. But it does, that happens all the time to me, even doing beer. You like put it down.

Dude, the close up, JP, did you cut that clip from Alabama Live Show? Yeah. Dude, that was, I knew some came out, but I didn't know drained out. It looked like I had like a, what those things called like a netty pot when you put it in your nose and just kind of comes out. That's what it's like for my nose, bro. It was literally like, and then you had a certain look on your face. Like, if you're in a horror film and you just look over at your buddy, what's happening in Taylor? And you just kind of stand there and.

shit just pours out of your nose. You guys were going, oh, and I was like, whoa, what happened? The roast of Tom Brady. I haven't got to watch it fully in succession, but I've seen a lot of the clips on the internet. What a night that must have been with the boys. I know, Fights was there too, yeah? I think I saw a picture of him.

Yeah. Fights was there? Yeah. Oh, that is awesome. Our boy, Rich Eisen. Where was this at? Bert and Tom. I saw Burton Tom.

Sneaking in there. But when they had, look at this. Gosh, dude. That clip, you just had up, Jack, I saw Will, when I saw Will this morning, I was like, hey, it was a nice little post you had about Rue and the nine days you guys spent together. And Will was talking about how he was tearing up even right in the past. Yeah, boy, he was kind of jerking the tears a little bit making that. It made yourself cry on your own videos.

It's wild how your kids will just make you cry for no reason. It just turned you into a pussy, dude. Yeah, bait time, puss, dude. Puss. Come sitting there, I'm like, hey, I was like, oh, I'm like, sweet, huh. I'm making up a, I'm cooking up a reel right now and I almost can't get through it. Yeah, fights made it, Rich Eisen was there just in the crowd. Dana had himself 60 seconds from the crowd apparently.

I didn't, you told me that, right? Yeah, he started off with a transgender joke right out of the gate, Netflix ratings. Good. I'm curious how many people had like a comedian or a roaster right for them. It had to be a lot of them. Yeah. Julian Edelman, did you see his zinger? No.

Oh, bro. Elite? Yeah, from the top row. He's like, Bill, you know, Bill would always say, like, what the fuck are we doing here? We can get somebody from Foxborough High to play like this, basically. And then he goes, I'm waiting a long time to say something like this. Got a good little laughing. He's like, what the fuck are you doing?

Foxborough High is the only job offer that you have. He murdered him, yeah. Bill's laughing. Like, dude, it was awesome. So they had a good time. Yeah, Bill Belichick's roasting everybody. He's roasting gronk. He's like, you know, I'm known for do your job.

I'm known for telling players, hey, just do your job. He's like, Gronk, I spent the season watching you on Sunday, like football America, Sunday foot, whatever the show where he was on the panel with Stray Hand and all Howie Long and all those boys. And he goes, Sunday Night Football pre-show. Yeah. And he goes, gronk, you need to stop doing your job. And then kill Tony. He had a run, bro. I just posted that clip on Twitter.

Matter of fact, should we just watch? Should we just listen to it? Can you guys hear it all back there? I've seen it, though. Okay, you've seen it? I mean, just, he's killing everybody. You said Dana's was good too, yeah? Oh, won't be able to do?

Okay, never mind. We don't want to get demonetized. The platform. But kill Tony's like, I knew Gronk was here because they ran out of all the chocolate milk in the back. So I knew he'd be sitting up here, like, just messing with him on some, like, being like a little kid. Yeah. But Gromk was there.

Who's a dude? Schultz. Andrew Schultz is there. He said, it's Andrew Shultz. Andrew Shultz is here. You just get done watching YouTube videos on how to death up black guys. Dude, Bert and Tom, Bert and Tom just staying there talking about Tom Brady's photo.

I just saw that one clip of them, like, genuinely laughing about it. Just those two together. Yeah. It's just automatically funny. You got a touch on when he got, looks like he got mad at Jeff Ross about Robert Kraft, the massage. That's the one clip I have not seen. I saw that clip.

Taylor was telling me about that. that. Kraft makes a joke, or not craft. Jeff Ross makes a joke about Robert Kraft, having a good time, blah, blah, how great the franchise is. And then kind of just pauses for a second and says, do you want a massage? And the crowd does the uncomfortable laugh.

Like, we're all like, oh, in a laughter. There were a few of those I felt like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you want those in a roast. Like, you want to go too far in a roast. Right, right. And Tom Brady pulls a Will Smith and walks up and whispers in Jeff Ross's ear, cut that shit out.

And you can hear him over the mic. So that's all I was going to ask. Do you think it was real? Do you think it was. That's what I'm curious about. I wonder. Because that's why I asked Taylor, too, I was like, did it seem like it was real?

And the thing that I'll have to watch like the real, I'll have to watch the whole thing through. But all the clips I saw, whenever they panned it, Tom, he's kind of doing the uncomfortable, like, feels uncomfortable in his own skin type of thing. Click that hyperlink up there with the confrontation with Jeff Ross. Maybe it'll have that video.

I think he's playing. You think he's playing? I think he's playing. Yeah, I think he's playing right there. That was like Tom, like, yeah, just coming to a, coming to bat for his guy. Yeah, I mean, that is a, it's a wild deal.

That's amazing, too, that whole Robert Kraft massage thing kind of just, it was like in the news for 24 hours. It was a quick little deal. Yeah, bro, I'm watching, I'll save my shout-out. But hey, the cats at the top, man, it's, you know, they're untouchable. Oh, conspiracy? Not conspiracy.

I'm just, I'm dying for conspiracy to do. Yeah, they're just, I just think untouchable. What about the flake gate? Do you see that joke? No. Oh. See, that's why I hate it because I want to watch it. Last night I was late in bed.

I can't wait to talk some shows because I'm stuck right now and that's the only reason why I wasn't watching this because I was like, oh, I got to get this show. And dude, I'm binging it hard right now. I was laying in bed last night. I thought I should put this on for the show tomorrow. You want me to sleep? Yeah. Yeah, sure. Oh, he admits to deflategate.

The, uh, and that, the plate gate's real. But Bill Bill steps up And he's like I'm excited to be here At Tom Brady's roast Not to be confused With the 10-part docu series

On the roast of Bill Belichick Everyone started laughing at that Craft is sitting there Because that was like a hit job On old Bill Belichick Everybody's Not every When I say everybody

I mean like players I feel like have been vocal About like they hated the way The docu series was I personally loved the Dynasty Doc Ziers Because I'm not like a Boston like, you know, growing up in the Middle West,

you don't see all the Northeast stuff, like how everything was shaking up back in the early 2000s. So I thought it was a cool, like, look inside of everything. But then once you get to the end of it, and you see Julian Edelman and all these players kind of talking about it, you see that it was like a hit job on Bill. And then Kraft, I want to say either at the head, the owners, the owner's summit or something to where they're kind of interviewing him.

And he's like, oh, I kind of hate the way that they portrayed Bill. And it's like, bro, you for sure signed off on every. episode before it went out there. Yeah, it's interesting how big this country is and how you kind of like in your own little, your own little area based on where you grew up. And because when you and I watch it and all of us, I think we all really enjoyed the dynasty docu-series. But then you talk to people that are like, like Dave, we talked to him at UFC 299. He hated it. Edelman didn't like it. People that were in that world and have been a part of that world since this dynasty started seem like, there's a consensus that they don't like it very much. Yeah. Yeah. Compared to us who just watch it are like,

kind of like, oh my God, this is fucking insane. Yeah, which I kind of feel, I kind of feel the aspect of like they won a lot of Super Bowls and football games, obviously, but they seem to always talk about the down times and the down years. They kind of fast order skipped through when they won. So I get that. But it's, them docket series, it seems like it's just hard to hit, hit or miss on like everybody hated the Florida Gators one.

Well, that one was bad. Yeah. The Florida, the swamp, what was it called? Swamp Kings. Swamp Kings. There is, it should have been a five-part series. try to put all that information with all those characters at the University of Florida into a 45 minute episode is just not doing your service.

You don't even touch on the Aaron Hernandez stuff. You don't like you hardly touch on half of things. So it kind of becomes that could have been way better. The problem is is the last dance with Michael Jordan is one of the best documentaries I've ever seen and how people are trying to redo that. And the dynasty could have been that. It could have absolutely been that if they would have just taken the time to check every single box.

Because in the last dance, they do such a great job of talking about. the highs and the lows and finding the balance there of showing like the struggle of how it got there but also like this dude michael jordan who was like was not taking no for an answer and all like how he was an asshole to people and then it's michael jordan looking at an iPad being like i took that personally 17 times like that is heated they did such an amazing job i've literally seen that documentary i think i think i've rewatched it twice yeah it's a good one yeah and with the jordan one i mean that's decades after he's done playing like this one's fresh out of the gates and there's obviously going to be some politicking going on i feel like so maybe a little bit rushed do you think

Yeah, I think so. And again, it's more from one, it's more from one angle and it's fresh. It's like the Jordan one, you got the years that went by. And then I'm sure people were just the writers and the content team and the creative team were just dialed in on how they wanted to tell the story. And it's over one guy. Right. Versus like an entire organization. Yeah.

But that's the thing is like if Tom Brady, this is Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft. And if you were to take maybe a few more years and able to like, surround all the storylines together and lay it out great as if our like you're saying like not just put it down so quickly you're in such a better product the one thing that they did really well was quarterbacks this past year Omaha productions and Netflix did that I can't wait to see receiver this year receiver is going to be elite are they also also they're starting a new one season of receiver and then doing a second season of quarterback what they need to do is tight ends do you have so many tight end personality George is in it. He's in receiver. Is Travis? Kiddle, yeah, George Kittal is in receiver.

Yeah. George is doing a great job of creating that brand. They needed, they need to do, they need to get some hogs, dude. Yeah, I just don't, you know what I mean? It's just so difficult. The unsung heroes. Yeah, it's just some big boys. But it would probably be so hard to, like, garner content from it because the big boys, they just.

They don't want to, they don't want to talk. It is changing. They don't want to get out there like that. They don't care. No, it's just. It's changing. It really is. There's a changing of the guard right now of like the older generation,

the new generation where office alignment are really starting to talk, really starting to find their personalities. And I think it's going to be in the next couple of years, you'll have that opportunity to do like an offensive line thing. Did you have done it? Yeah. Ah, probably not. Oh, you would have done it.

No, I, I, oh, it's so, bro. You would have done it. No, like, I think sitting here right now, yes. Like, right, my personality right now, how I've, like, zoomed out of football, I think it had been really difficult for me if I was like week four into this season and having a tough game or you know how it is when coaches are always kind of on you and always being like that's not good enough that's not good enough and to think oh this is getting filmed i think i would really i would have really struggled with that finding a balance of like

keeping the same you know uh attitude every single day right but devil's advocate by that point you'd have already signed the dotted line to do it because you don't know you're having those trials and tribulations i think in the off season you'd catch me and i'd say yes yeah and i got in the middle of the season. I'd be like, why the fuck did I do this? Yeah. It would be, it would be, because it's such, it's warfare, mentally and physically, the entire football season. That would be so difficult. But it still comes out as a positive.

Yeah, you're probably, it's a lot of, it's a lot of things that people don't see. Yeah, I would probably do it. I would most likely do it, but I would just, I, sitting here now, I think, knowing my mental state back then and how it was all ball all the time, I would have a more difficult. I had a hard time doing this show during, while I was playing,

and that was once a week. Yeah, but I mean, we were it for three years. Yeah. It would be a harder thing. You would have done Limeon. You would have done Hogs. You would have done Hogs. Hogs had been sick.

You would have done hogs. Who would have been? Who would be in it right now? Hogs. Like right now? Lane Johnson, Trent Williams. Jason Kelsey? Jason, he's retired.

Oh yeah, that's right. You said right now. Zach, dude, Zach doesn't really talk. You think Quentin Nelson would do it? I think he would. I do. I think Quinn would be really good.

good that's a good one we'll put him in there box would be good Bach to y'all yeah my boys in limbo right now we gotta be fantastic if he was we gotta get Bachers Bach right now he'd be a perfect candidate for it you know what I think would be a good candidate is oh Dion Dawkins

yeah he will be so there's four and I think one more you throw in like a Lammy tonsil now you have big names Lammy loves fashion he's a good ball player I don't know his personality very well but I know Dion would do a phenomenal job Bach, man. Yeah, here's some more cats right here.

Tristan would be good. Penae. I, dude, so Penae, swell. I don't know a whole lot about this cat. I haven't seen a whole lot about his film. Is that as he says, Sewell. Penae Soule. But he, apparently, talking to, like, a couple of lines guys, says he's the best dude.

Really? Yeah, he's like one of the greatest cats. Awesome to be around, hard worker. Just signed a massive deal, I think, $23 million a year. Yeah, he sounds big dog deal. Big dog deal. playing RT too. Yeah.

Which is impressive. So I think he'd be good. Jordan my lot of would be good too. Yeah, Jordan would be really good. But I think if you had a pick between Jordan and Lane, who you'd take him. Because you don't want two guys in the same team.

I just feel like more like the purpose of a family-friendly event. I think he didn't Jordan over Lane? Because he does the, he was huge with the singing for Jason's album last year. I'll tell you that every time that comes up. And Polynesian, you check the box. Yeah.

I'm saying you got to have one. You know what I mean? That's a serious problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Most of the dudes we've said are black or checking a box. True. So if anything, we need more white guys. Yeah, I mean, you can't go wrong with either ones.

Both great guys. Both great guys. I don't know Jordan very well, but... What about Roshan Slater? Do you know anything about him? No, I don't. I know he's a good ball player. I had a bicep last year.

They needed to do rookies. Just called the rookies. Rookie. Call it rookie. Yeah. That might be a bust with a voice production. Ronnie Stanley, too. I think he would do really well.

I think he would do well. J.J. Watt. Did you see that he's still open to return to the NFL? No, I didn't see that until they pulled up the article just now. You notice that he sees the boys we have our private jet. Yeah. He spotted their Huskers. That would be our private jet too.

Yeah, he's spot every time you get on that plane. He said last year he told Damiko, Don't call unless you absolutely need it But if you ever do call, I'll be there And he knows not to call unless he absolutely needs it This is the last year I'll tell him that Because I'm not going to keep training the way I've been training But he knows that if he ever truly does need it

I'll be there for him I mean that's a cool quote I don't anticipate it happening They've got a very good group So You think you think he's returned I mean if the depth struggle Based on that quote

I would say yeah absolutely If they had a bunch of injuries and it was week five or something like that, call him in, get him a couple weeks to warm up and get back in the basics, then get after it. Yeah. Because he's been more open. I mean,

you can see he goes on the Pat McVey show. He's, his tweet game's been getting out there a little bit more. He's tweeting a lot more. And you see he's still ass to grass with a lot of weight on his back. Yeah. So you know he's still training. He's training.

He looks fantastic too. Yeah. He looks great. And I wonder if it's setting in that like, okay, football's over. I mean, he's got all the opportunities in the world. But still, there's always a piece of you that's like, man, can I still do it?

Can I ask you. When you're juggling all those things off the field, then if you get later in the year and the depth is struggling, you could make a return on a good squad. And the Texans are contenders this year. Even the branding and everything you're doing off the field, like, yeah. Yeah. You get your ass.

The prodigal son returns to Houston for one last ride. Yeah. There's a documentary in its own right there. Netflix's own watt. Yeah. Yeah, I think he could absolutely do it. I mean, you look at it in the last couple of years at the Cardinals, like he wasn't JJ Watt of

Houston, but still very slippery, still did a great job of rushing the passer. Like, he was, he was still, he could still have played in the NFL this past year and been, and been a guy you circle and be like, listen, he might be older, but he's still a cat that you got to worry about.

Yeah, he's still disruptive. Disruptive. Plays hard, gives effort. So, yeah, I mean, first and last out. Yeah, I think the leadership, too, because Houston, I think, I have to look more at the depth chart,

but Houston seems like, they're a squad that is extremely talented but young really young they have a lot of young talent there and if you brought in a leadership guy like like j j wott it might be taking him over the edge Houston might at all this year they that's a that's a shay's thing is they might do what yeah i do i think houston's got all now look i think the other day i was watching the divisional round niners versus packers watching the packers just kind of blow it there in the last You re-watching film? Yeah, like, dude, God bless her.

But if we're not watching Miss Rachel, if I'm like, oh, no, we'll watch Miss Rachel later or whatever. She'll literally say football. So I'll go on. And I'll think, oh, you want to watch football? And I'm just thinking, like, there's no football on. And NFL Network, division around Niners Packers, and we're just sitting there watching football. And, but anyway, the Niners, they have to win this year. Like, their window of having all these players is obviously closing.

And they have such a core unit that it's all or nothing this year. I think it's been all or nothing from the last call. You know, losing the couple quarterbacks two years ago, obviously this past year was like, it doesn't matter unless they win the whole thing. And they get to the Super Bowl and then unfortunately lost the fucking Chiefs. But this year, I think like having that group together, like they have one more shot.

If you're playing in the scenario of the 49ers and they're in the Super Bowl, the team that they should play is the Chiefs. Chiefs have won two in a row. Chiefs, I don't think I'll get back. Stop, dude. Okay, I guess we'll see. I think Houston's the team in the AFC. Houston, Baltimore.

Baltimore's gonna be a great squad. It's nasty. Tennessee. Don't sleep on the Steelers. They have Arthur Smith at O.C. right now. Tennessee is brewing up a squad right now. They're brewing, but it's not going to be this. If you were to rank AFC South right now, if you were to rank, you don't ever know.

You never know, Jack. you never know. If you're looking at the AFC South, this is how I'd rank AFC South right now. You got to put Houston at one. Have to.

Then you put the Titans at two. I don't know. And then you put the Colts at three and the Jags are in four. I don't know. I don't know if that's right. Bro, we were in there with Callahan. You saw the boys.

I would go Houston. I would go Colts. Then I would go Titans in Jacksonville. But Jacksonville is four. Yeah. I think the AFC South is a very tough division. Now, yes, absolutely. Like Anthony Richardson,

CJ Stroud, Trevor Lawrence, Will Levis. Young coaches, young QBs. Yes, dude. It's just, and I'm telling you, bro. Here's the exciting thing. If you're a Tennessee Titans fan watching this podcast right now, let me get you pumped up a little bit. The last 10 years of your life,

you've been seeing ground and pound. Please God, let Derek Henry break one. And we're going to out, we're going to out defense these guys. Essentially, this is football of the 90s. We are now transitioning into high-flying air-raying, Erarade put points in the board. We're going to score more points than you. That's what the Titans are going to try to be this year.

I'm excited. Calvin Ridley, DeAndre Hopkins, hope to God. Who's the kid that we drafted? Treylin Berks, hope to God he has a year. Pray for it. I'm still going to sing Kyle Phillips's praises. If he can stay healthy, the kids got talent. You got Chig and you have an offensive line that you're building together.

You just pay the center, $50 million. You got yourself a left tackle. NFP is getting to his third year. he's coming off injury, but his third year. You drafted a guy in the first round at left guard. You have the tools on offense to be successful. You take a kid that dude from Texas. What's his name?

Devonre Sweat. Devonre Sweat. Tobondre Sweat. Tavondre Sweat. Outland trophy winner. He literally says himself, if I can lose weight, I'll be a Hall of Famer. That's terrifying, by the way, if you're a Titans fan,

you just need this guy. If you know your only issue to not make it to the Hall of Fame is something that you control, brother. You've got to get your shirt. shit together then it makes you get that done then with jeff harold then with jeff and i think as much as jeff and i've had our disagreements and my opinions about jeff jeff is going to bully this sweat kid into being in shape i've seen him do with other defensive linemen he's going to hold him to a standard and that kid's gonna have a good first year i believe yeah so we got you got sneed too from the chiefs who was all

pro last year yeah yeah titans got a squad i'm keeping them at two i'm keeping them too Put it like this. You're right. You never know, like you don't know how the scene's going to shake up. I wouldn't be surprised based on the coaching staff that they have and some of the young talent. But I think the Houston Texans, bro, are absolutely loaded. And not to mention they got two of the Titans' best defensive players last year. Yeah.

It's Al Shahir, right? Al-Shir and Danico Autry. And Danico Autry. Who is maybe the sleepiest guy in the league that people sleep on constantly. Yeah, bro. He's nasty. Nasty. Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you get the plugs ever? I don't think... You know, nothing's off the table. You go to Turkey? Yeah, dude. It says like 10 grand. They put you on the first class flight.

You come back to like 10 other guys doing the same thing. There's more than 10. You seen those clips? Yeah, those videos. Dude's just having the coldest sack with bandages on top of their heads, all flying back. None's up the table. That is, if that becomes an option for you, I say do it. 100%.

Yeah, none's off table. Got you. There could be a moment. Seems like we're done. Maybe I could be a shave head kind of guy. How's the shape of your head? I don't know. I mean,

you can't really tell of hair. You can't really tell. I had my head shaved for my rookie year because they gave me a rookie haircut. Where they just kept like this part right here and then shaved all this and kind of moved it around. It was really fucked up. Wearing a hat looked fine. But then I had to shave it after my, after the fourth preseason game. I just don't got a good shaped head.

You did kind of look. Yeah. I look racist. Yeah. You see me? I look like I'm a claim. But you ain't got nothing to worry about. Yeah.

Yeah. I do. It is a worry of mine still, though. Oh, it's, it's, that's just, that's a fake,

I appreciate that. Yeah, it's a fake imaginary worry. It is, yes. But you see cats and you just wonder, hey, if that happens to me,

I hope that doesn't happen to me. Literally every time I sit down with Alan, our barber, I go, brother, you got to tell me. Like your head of hair, yeah, your head of hair is so nice that when you say comments like that,

awesome. Yeah. No, everybody around you, Whoever you tell that to, just know they might not tell you, but it's like, okay, guy. Yeah. People turn the YouTube off. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Because everyone says it's always the mother's dad. My mom's dad is bald as can be. Shout out, bud. Yeah, your dad is definitely your future. Yeah, he and I have. have the we have the same kind of hair and build you'll be you'll be wearing those uh sleevel shirts compression shorts under the under the shorts yeah where the bottom of the compression shorts don't grab your leg all the way Dave just he's just got to do more legs man no Dave Luan on

Google no Dave the one on Google damn Dave Dave Dave watches his show too it's going to hurt for him to hear this but he'll I think he'll be sitting there green like you guys have the same Biceps My upper body Lower body Hair Yeah We do look very similar

Very Yeah Yeah isn't it interesting too And I can't He's a good looking old guy Right I can't wait to see this With our kids

Is when I Was younger Everyone was like Oh you look like your mom You don't know anything like your dad And as I've gotten older Everyone's like you and your dad Are the exact same person

Yeah So I'm interested to see with my kids Hopefully they look like their mom The entire way Like we just keep going Willows you bro Hey bring up Taylor the draft day photo the where you're standing there the combine oh the combine

willow all right don't be disrespectful that's not disrespectful bro she looks like her dad bro first off looks like her dad this photo the comment section is hilarious someone said dude looks like sponge bob flat in the front flat in the back my combine photo was on uh yeah yeah yeah bro it is so fucking funny loki though when i saw that photo i knew there was going to be chirps but i thought you know you look kind of jacked bro. You are a fucking big ass cat. You got some thickness on you.

That meat. That meat. You know. Bro, meaty boy. We've lost internet. We've lost internet. Anyway, I know Mitch will do a great job of popping up that photo though. Yeah.

It is funny, dude, how my ass is not there and my dick is also not there. Yeah. Yeah. I thought about doing that. I'll put a sock in there big time, though. Brother. I know what you're thinking about right now. JP, don't even go there.

What do you think? Are you thinking about the penis and the bottle comment? I wasn't at all. No, no, no, no, no. This one? Yes, bro. That's a thick boy.

It is a thick boy. I look lost, too. Shoulders, arms. I look lost as fuck. Tiny legs still. Did my absolute best with them boys too. It looks like that photo of when you're a kid

and you go in your mom's room after you threw up. You just stay in the doorway. Just like, mom Your legs don't look that bad here Yeah Look at that Not even a bump, dude

It was cold, boy That's how it is That's how it is When you got them strong thighs like that I think it's hiding Yeah When you get them thighs touching everything else Yeah, that's tough

God I miss having strong legs That's fucking hilarious That's fucking hilarious bro that is funny get the back in there bank I mean it's a solid that's a solid oh yeah dude better times hey did you see uh OBJ sign with the dolphins he's Miami boy I know I saw the one thing I did see on that was Jalen Ramsey saying last time they two were both on the team Super Bowl

Super Bowl towards Tories T's ACL yeah that's tough dude one year deal worth $4 million with incentives to push it up to $8.25 million? Man, I really want Beckham to get GBOT. I know, bro. I want him to be so bad. Dude, I think his, uh, I love his work ethic, bro. Huh? I feel like the dude, have you listened to him on the pivot?

Like the ups and downs he said with his knees, with surgeries and stuff like that. And still, like, being a guy at the peak of where he was and still, like, loving the game and wanting to go play ball, even though he's got to be. big salary of $3 million up to $8.2. You know what I mean? He was like at the, I mean, he was at the top of the world. I know. He was, he was number one.

Yeah. He was essentially Patrick Mahomes, like that kind of star power. Yeah. When he was in his prime. The thing that I really, I just wish he could get back on track for is because every human being I came across that play with him at LSU or new, like, play with him in Giants or wherever was like, this dude could be professional at any sport. Soccer, baseball.

Big time athlete. Big time athlete Like just has the genetics like that Yeah And he's just a He's just a stud man And I feel like he's just a guy That you start to like root for

Yeah Not that he hasn't been that But you know when when you're at the very tip top And then you have antics on the sidelines And everything else It's very easy to you know To comment on the dramatic shit that he does Making the villain

Right but in the last few years The way he's just kind of came on teams Kept his head down Like he's never really been a distraction Like people Like we would have thought he probably could have been. I don't know.

I kind of fuck with him. Yeah. I don't really know much about him other than like, again, he's signing again. It just seems like the boy loves to play ball. You painted a really good picture too because at one point, Obj kind of became the villain. Like he lived long enough to see him become the villain. Yeah. And now with the trials and tribulations, and him just fighting the good fight over and over again

because he loves the game so much trying to get back on track. It really makes you root for the guy. Yeah. Oh, well, I just thought of that first class situation. that I think that was last year no that was two years ago he was drunk he was like sleep right yeah it wasn't like following the

but yeah you know just a hiccup you can't judge people at the lowest moments yeah yeah that's nothing you let that go yeah throw that to the wind let the breeze take it that's over yeah but him Tyree kill Jalen Waddle I don't know I just wonder how many balls he's gonna get

I don't think he I don't think it's like he puts that much expectation on it I think he does but I'm saying I think he's very aware of the situation he's going into yeah he knows he knows the strengths of tyriek killed jaylin like you got coach mcdaniels like i'm sure they're going to find creative ways to get everybody the ball spread the ball around yeah tyriex is the dude you got to feed over and over again the thing i wish tyreek did was hit that 2000 because he was

on pace at one point last year right yeah yeah yeah i want him to get that so bad dude was crushing it should we hit segments shout out no free shout out you want to get that out your chest huh you've been trying to talk show you want to talk shows go ahead Start up. I want to talk shows with the boys. Start up. My shout on, no free shout out of the week. First of all, it is brought to you by Sport Clips.

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There's one season. I watched all a fallout. Bangor show. Awesome show. Fallout, highly recommend. The boys, I am now in season two. And I'm into it, bro. Is this the one?

They have superpowers. It's like superheroes, but they're like... Devious superheroes. Yeah, they're like bad guys. Some of them are bad. Anti-hero? Yeah. Yeah, anti-hero guys are fucking fish.

You know, there's a lot going on. It's basically like just assume it's like the X-Men, but the rules are reversed. They're very well accepted in the world. They are the high power. They're like the superior. They're like the billionaires. And they get away with a lot of devious shit. Some stuff that's like...

You know, Charo, she's like, should I catch up? I'm like, I don't know if you'd mess with the storyline and the plot, but I don't know if you'd mess with all like the violent and the negative shit that comes with it because it's pretty. Yeah. That show, I mean, it'd be so interesting. You think about it all the time, like being a superhero, like if you found out at one point in your life,

you were a superhero, how many of us would actually go and fight crime as opposed to just being extremely good at whatever we wanted to be good at? Yeah. Imagine if you had Superman's powers and we were still in the mindset of wanting to play football, you'd just be the best football player of all time. Yeah.

Taylor might be Homelander. Hey, Taylor might be a homelander. That's a... I was gonna say that. What is, what's Homelander? It sounds like it's not a good deal.

He's the main character in the show. Okay, cool. I'll take the main character. Don't even know anything else. Super easy. He's basically the Superman of the group. Oh, cool. And he doesn't,

he's probably the guy that's the devious shit. Check it out. Check it out. Check it out. I heard the boys, the first season, there was like some random shit going on people like I don't know if you want to watch this is it it's just gory and it's like it's sexual in ways you really don't want it to be and like

you know what you're saying jack no no kids become orphans people are fucking fish yeah kids become orphans a little too frequent in my you know in my opinion a little too much for the children yeah yeah a little too much like as a parent watching like god damn why they got to write this type of shit in there yeah but it is a good shit nonetheless so that is my shoutout no free shoutout uh my shout out no free shout out is going to be it's gonna go to willie wanka in the chocolate factory what why is that dude my kid so if anybody who has kids out there goes to their kids school place it's fun for 15 minutes and then after that you're like all right like these this we're not

this is not top notch acting i'm not watching a broadway musical by any means but this year my kids the whole school their school they go to they did uh a play willie wanka and the chocolate venture my both my kids were umpalumpus it was sick too when had a whole dance routine everything we used to practice on and uh i just loved that book growing up it was my favorite book growing up i loved the movie i love the movie wanka and i just it brought me that i had the whole hour where i was like just feeling levels of nostalgia being like dude this movie was so good coming out wanka so great and legit these kids were good at the play not good like talking you know i'm saying relative to the age group we're talking about

they did a good job. Yeah? Yes, they did a good job. There was one kid who was playing Wonka. Kid had a good voice. A kid had a good voice. Charlie, that kid had a good voice too.

All of them, I think, did a good job of buying their characters, and I just kind of sat there and smiled to myself, like, my childhood was loving this show, and now my kids are playing this show

sitting here as an adult as their kid, and I thought that was cool. Yeah, I'm messing with that. It's wholesome. Yeah, it's wholesome. Yeah, it's wholesome. But shout out the boys, too. Gore raping and shit like that.

That's tight. Yeah. Fuck. I need to watch that show, but I feel like Taylorin would not watch that show. Yeah, she wouldn't like some parts. Taylorin tried to check me on Spooktober this year.

And I was like, dude, don't. She wants to do, like, more like kid friendly. Like, we don't need to watch all this. Like, Delaney, you know, like the super gory shit. She's like, we don't need to have that. Hey, we got a six and a three-year-old. Like, let's...

Yeah, we don't need to have that in the house. Like, it's bad. Like, every Spook-Tover seems like something goes wrong in the Lwan household. Yeah. Both of my surgeries were in Spook-Tover. Like, it's just, it's a tough time. I'm trudging through that mud every single year.

I'm going to fight it. Yeah. But she wants to do less, less like horror films. She says, you can watch the slashes and all that, but all this paranormal shit, you got to stop watching. I told her no. Yeah. You're watching on your own. Mitch, I said, no.

We're not going to do that. Boys, any shoutouts in the back? I'll go. Joe Key West. Yeah, mine's with Key West, but it's going to, the reason I was there, I'm shouting out Thomas Edwards, my very talented musician friend. He released a new song called Old Crowd that is out now on all platforms

and this isn't just some shameless plug. It's a really good fucking song. The song embodies what this bus is. It's about your old friends, just hanging out with the crew. It's just the boys, you know, the boys, the girls, whatever. But I'm really proud of him.

He's been working really hard. He was the talk of the town at this songwriter's festival we're at. So shout out to Thomas Edwards. Shout out to everyone who made QS fun. It's just, it's fun to kind of get out of town for a little bit, get some vitamin D, listen to some good music. And, yeah, just, you know, love my friends, always do. So shout out Tom, old crowd, stream it now.

Oh, stick along the same line, sort of. Shout out living with your boys. I just moved into a new house. And there's three of us that will be currently, that will stay there. But one guy who's still, like, in limbo as he's moving out. But you just, you're just never bored. You can always just go annoy somebody. You can always just go hang out with somebody.

And this is the most, since college, the most amount of people I've lived with, and I'm looking forward to it. It's going to be a good time. So shut out with them with your boys. That's a good shout out. Living with boys. Shout out getting no hose. You get bored.

You go set the edge of their bed, like, hey, what are you doing today? Kick your feet up. How's your day? Mine's kind of similar to the boys. theme we have going on, but it is the one friend in the friend group four two that are the grill guys. Whenever you're on like a big group trip,

they're always ready to cook up some nice food. Our guys are Carter and Danny. They cooked up some broadware, some hot dogs. Easy things to cook up, but their range is unlimited when it comes to food. So shout out to the guys that take on the task of cooking dinner for everyone.

Hell yeah. Solid. solid one what else do we have before we get into we got a twisted question we got some dad yeah we got some dad moments

do we want to do twist the question we want to talk let's do twist the question okay let's do twisty uh twisty is a refreshing hard ice tea made with real brew tea and 5% alcohol full of flavor

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watching at a bar or watching with friends at home. Twisted tea is there to turn up your game day. Keep it twisted and grab a refreshing twisted tea today. The twisted question this week comes to you from Mitch, who comes to you from? Daniel Dulek. Dulek. On Instagram. This one's a bit of a mouthful, but I think it's a good one.

I'm sure you'll handle it just fine like you always do. You have 24 hours. to complete the following four activities. Run a mile, eat a donut, drink a beer, and jerk off. The catch is you have to do each of these activities in increments of six, 12, 18, and 24. So example, run six miles, eat 12 donuts, drink 18 beers and jerk off 24 times in 24 hours.

What are you doing for each number? I'm gonna have to put the miles at six. I'm going to start there. I'm going to eat 24 donuts. I'm going to drink. Was it 6, 12? 18. I'll drink 18 beers.

I'm going to jerk off 12 times. Fuck, man. That's tough. I think you got to go 24 donuts. I have to. And it's what beers jerk off in miles. You either run the miles? I think I'll go.

Run or not. Run. You can't walk it. Okay. I think I'll go 18 beers. Okay. 12 miles and jerk off six times

you ain't running 12 miles bro bro over 24 hours a mile a mile every two hours yeah I don't know man I'll be honest with you I don't know if you're doing that but I'm saying that this very

I mean it's harder to jerk off 12 times in a day than it is to run 12 miles yeah yeah 1,000 percent Bro, jerk off 12 times in one day. If you're going to go run after that, I think John, I think I'm using a good number with the six.

Like, keep that one low. I was thinking about going, I was thinking about going more miles, but if it's in a 24-hour period, we're going to be so tired after that. Refield with the beer and donuts. You're right, I might go.

No, I don't know. I think 12. My max would even, would be at 12 for miles. I wouldn't be able to go farther than that. I think I would just switch the beers in miles. I would do 18 miles and 12 beers. I know.

That's what I was thinking about too. But 18 miles again, 24 hours. A long time. I mean, if you're like really running, running, you can run around like seven minutes, but then you're just cooked. Cooked. But if you slow that down, you maybe do like a 10-minute mile, that's just... That's what I'm saying, like, these miles, it's not like they have to be.

Run for an hour, and you... you've got, what, six miles done. Yeah. And then break and then run for an hour again. You got another six miles. Just zone to it up for 12 miles. Not for 12 miles straight. I'm breaking them up.

But yeah, I'm going to. Straight? JP probably could. I mean, JP was running. I'm not in any cardio shape, but like my roommate, he just ran a half marathon. And he trained a little bit. And he kept a higher pace than I would do for it.

But he finished right at two hours. And that was 13.1 or whatever. ever that's two hours yeah like sitting she ran a marathon one or age group and it was like 340 345 or something right so you got the whole rest of the day for all these other things right right right right taylor was locked on that 12 one though that's only one you didn't have to think of jerk off yeah yeah i think you hit an hour hour on the hour I think about when he was like seven Yeah

You're like I still have five more I'm not I'm thinking about My stamina of my wrist And my forearm And I'm also thinking about how bad my piece Is gonna hurt too Right bro

That's gonna be 12 times Dehydrated get fluids Like have you ever came 12 times in a day No I think my max I was a nasty little 13-year-old I Maybe six

But I think I'm I think I'm floating those numbers pretty high. Yeah. At the end, six is just like dust coming out. Yeah. Like I know for sure four. Just coughing. Maybe five.

Just a little. And that's back in your, that's back in your horniest days of all time. What time? I said, I know for sure four. Maybe there was a fifth time in there at some point, but I don't know.

My numbers are inflated. I think I'm four or five as well. And again, that's back in your horniest times, bro. All right, I'll go, listen. I'll go six jerk offs. You had your number.

I'll go 12 miles. You get a jerk off to all, yeah. You got a jerk off 12 times. That was the fantasy football punishment for one of my buddies, names Connor. Jerking off? But they took the jerk off out, but it was just 12, 18, 24 for donuts, beers, and miles. And they had a day party on a Saturday, and he brought a treadmill,

and he played baseball at the Navy, and he was like, fuck it. And he literally did a full marathon on the treadmill. at this party 24 donuts and then 24 beers didn't have to do it but you know war daddy war daddy when a challenge comes your way have to do it answer the bell and then some anybody struck i bet he got a lot of respect from the boys oh yeah and 24 we should do something like that one day you're gonna plan it and then it's gonna come down to it no to you i don't want me uh more so looking at will but what have i planned it not want to do.

No, I just, I feel like we have these ideas. Like, let's go. Usually I'm more of a start at no. Let's get to yes. Will's a start at no, get to yes. I'm a yes. I'm a yes.

Immediately go to no. Yeah, so like one of you's going to end up not doing it. I think we should do it. If you were like, we're doing this tomorrow, I'd be like, all right. But if you're like, we're doing this in three months, I would be more likely to say no

as opposed to it being flipped for me and Will. Yeah. Are you thinking of the combine? Yeah. I'm trying to think like, what is Mitch thinking of? But it's 1,000% the combine. Yeah. Did you do the bench press?

He wasn't in Miami. I know, but have you done that? Yeah, I did it at home. What was it? I got 31. I expected more. I expected more, too. It's crazy how it just creeped that weight creeps up on you.

I didn't know where. I didn't have a spotter though. So I don't know if I could have gotten one or two more, but I was just down there by myself. And I didn't want to just kill myself. That is an underrated thing is when you have. have somebody to lift the weight for you to get you in position. They're also just like motivating you a little bit. Come on, let's go.

I just put on some hardcore EDM and just whipped it. Oh shit, deadmouth. We do. I apologize. We do got to get the stuff set up at boost. So we can, you can run your combine. I know.

He wants to be so bad. Well, no, it's a thing that like, because you're right. You're right. Jack and I have gone back and forward. Like, who's the most athletic on the bus.

And we've all been on two dimes. and everybody's list is different. Are y'all still going on two dimes? Yeah, we'll go on two dives. About that list. I feel like... Who's the first of the goal? Is that you, Jack?

Guys, figure out who's the most athletic? It's not the... Maybe out of the back of the bus. What do you say? Bro, ain't none of y'all more athletic than me. You don't think so? No. They're younger, dude. Younger, more spribed.

You have a back thing? You got a back thing? That's the thing. Will is running about 900 to Solisone right now, though. He's up there peak like thousand. Yeah. Is it dropped? Oh, I don't know.

I haven't. I haven't. I haven't tested in, since that last time where I was, I was floating some good numbers. I was floating some good numbers. I just got my blood done Wednesday last week. I'm excited to see those numbies. it truly all depends what we're trying to clarify as like what an athlete is because it's like we it's like we it's like we could run through the same combine that i have film on out there because your bench already didn't get it but to me bench is not like you can there's like a uh we did something in college like a pound for pound so you're 15 20 more pounds than i am so you're gonna have more like you're gonna be able to bench more but i might be able to run faster you might or we can find that out yeah we can again.

I mean, there's a road right outside. You just been ducking it. There's a road. I mean, I saw really concrete. Will's got something that y'all don't have

and that's a winning against the black guy. He beat the landing in that race. You did. I was also filming us. Running side by side. That is fucking funny. Jack was saying that too.

He's like, yeah, I was running backwards. We'll get it going. We'll get it going. We'll get it going. We'll get it going. Who would you rank the boys in the back?

athletic again we we truly I do think there are different definitions and different kind of like classic definition of uh are we talking changing direction jump speed so we're testing yeah because I agree with I would guess I would guess Jack I if we're doing like if we're talking change the direction I was going to say Mitch but if we do that athletic in terms of like how many sports you were able to hold like your own weight in, that is where I feel like I would have a better chance. But there's only one way to find out. There is one.

I suck at basketball. I just, I can't. White. But anything else. Play defense. Play defense to get boards. Yeah, that's, that's, that's a role. That's a rule.

I can jump. I can get the rebounds and I play a good day. You won't get your team beat. Yeah. I'm not going to be scoring a lot of points. J.P. Are you quick? Like change the direction.

Do you feel confident in your ability against them? I feel confident. I would also probably say Mitch as far as testing goes. And then like Jack is saying, I feel more confident that I'm good at a lot of sports, can play a lot of sports. I don't have golf, though. Golf's tough.

Yeah, but golf's the little worst. Yeah, but he grew up. Swimming. He was on the dive team, which I didn't have access to that. so who would you rank I feel like Coop I feel like Coop finds himself middle upper pack

yeah he might be shifty yeah I don't know I have to figure it out if I had to if I had to play sods on it I would say I would go we're going

sports category uh Jack are you any good at baseball Mitch you play High School is going to play college. Yeah, okay. Jack, Mitch, JP, Garrett Coop.

I think you're off. I think you're not giving enough credit to Garrett. Everything we've seen Garrett do, he's relatively good at it. Like the way JP's saying, like, you can play in most sports, every sport we've done with Garrett, his hand-eye coordination is great. Yeah. He can throw a baseball. He can play golf really well.

I think you're sleeping on G a little bit. I think he's top three. I think G is very skilled. I don't think he test well. I don't think he test well. No. We're talking about sports. But I want cats who have range in every sport that we're playing.

Like if we're playing baseball, I need you to play the outfield and cover ground. Like, yeah, I'm sure G could be a good pitcher. I think G's very skilled. But as far as like some of those, just the athletic stuff of running and moving and changing direction, that's why I value that type of stuff more. than being in place. Yeah. There's a scale that comes out about the-

Just every sport. You have a small business that tests all these things, please. Please let us know. There's like a, have you heard of Raz, relative athletic? Yeah, that, yeah. They come out after the combat. They have like height, weight measurement stuff that you can look up. They try to like, yeah.

That measure, you're like, your number. Yeah, your relative athleticism. Yeah, relative athleticism, kind of what we're talking about, relative athleticism. If you want a benchmark, I'm the only player in the last 20 years to score a perfect 10. But if you guys,

there's something to go off of if you guys want. You're a great athlete. You're an elite level athlete. Was, was. Not anymore. I just don't think my shoulder, you saw me throwing that pitch. My knee, I can't really run like that.

Can't change direction like that anymore. I've gotten a lot weaker. I just don't think I'm holding to these young Sprite cats anymore. These young bulls. Yeah, they are some young bulls, man But I think you're up there with them You wouldn't give me the knot over them?

I think you would Here's where I think I think if it really came down to an actual combine You're beating all of them Handedly But I think for the next two weeks They're coming to work and they feel fine And you're dead

Yeah, we're talking about just We're talking about performing Yeah, we're showing up Then I think I'd give you the edge Because I don't know if you remember Back at the Vanderbilt When you were pretty good At that change of direction

thing that you wanted to tell me about pretty solid to change your direction. That was the funniest flex I've ever heard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would put you, I would put you at the top. Before we wrap up, the streets are saying that tear talk might need to make a comeback. I'm dumb. Just to put that, just to float that out there. Some tier talk.

Our tier talk this week could have been our bar stool. Yeah, we got to do tear talk today. You got any dad, any dad moments? Um Flip the girl that out around I might put a hat on it I would say My dad moment

Of the week Just anything Dude uh Yeah I got a dad moment There was a very cool Clip on our nanit That Talon showed me

When she was putting Wynn down And Wynn For those of you Who have ever met Wynn Is the most kind-hearted Like truly Like she's such a special soul

She cares about other people She's worried about Other people's feelings Like The kid just came out of the womb outstanding she's a lot like her mom and tailon was putting her to sleep and win just starts going saying how great of a mom she is she's the best mom that she could possibly have and they start talking about parents and stuff like that and then win said to taylin she's like I love how you make

people feel good and tail's like how do you how do you know that i make people feel good she's like well i've seen you do it and she starts going over examples of times that taylin made people feel good and to me watching a six-year-old had that kind of dialogue with her mother I just she was like years above like she was acting like she was 50 60 years old with this wealth of knowledge and I thought that to me was a very cool moment to watch a mother good awareness to see out of a six year old yeah crazy awareness to see out of six year old now she drives me crazy sometimes because with all that beautiful emotion comes the other side where everything's the biggest deal in the world and that's difficult for me because we're not just going to get out of here without complaining a little bit about our kids we got to bitch a little bit but I think that was a very special moment I love that yeah I almost felt a little twinkle on my nose. I know. When I was walking through it, it was kind of tough. Yeah.

I, uh, a little shout out to Rue. There's this, we have this book called Old Hat and New Hat. And her memory is, I think, special. I don't know I could just be a biased father thinking that she's got some crazy memory, but she can recite the entire book after a few times of reading through it. Like I just think she's got a little something to her. Now, when we were at State Golden the other day, and she made a little friend.

And Rue does this thing where she has to hug and kiss everything. Like, hug, even the boys last week. She was like hug, and then you hear her kind of say kiss. And there's kind of this awkward moment of like, I wonder what the boys are going to do here. Stephen kissed her. And JP just leaned up with the cheek because she kind of just sits there. But she made this friend that State Golden and the family was leaving.

And we're like, Roo, you got to say bye. She was like, hug, hug. And she like comes over. the little girl, so I think she was four. She, like, gives Rua a hug, and Rue, like, hugs in. And then you just hear Rue, like, on her breath go, kiss. And I'm standing there, and this girl

grabs her face and leans in, they both. You know how, you know how kids just kind of sit there. They don't, like, know how to, like, yeah, they don't pucker or nothing. And she, like, grabbed her face and it was going in, and it was slow enough to run. I started laughing. I was like, all right, hey, hey. And I'm just thinking, like, hey, we got to work on. We're, like,

uh, Rue, you know, you just, you want to kiss, like, people that are family that are you can't just kiss everybody you can't just kiss everything because she has to do everything like when we're putting her down at night she tries to negotiate like i got a hug and kiss the stairs good night i got a hug and kiss miss rachel that's on that's on that's no longer on the screen but you got to bring her up on pause so she can like hug give kisses so she has to hug and kiss everything so we got to kind of derelure her got to work that out yeah because you're starting to get a little starting to get a little loose with like everybody she's kissing yeah and it was hilarious

you don't want a kissing bandit for a child yeah she like hugs and he just here Yes. Can we talk about one thing? Yeah. Stephen kissed your kid? Yeah. On the lips? No, he kissed on the cheek.

Okay. It kissed on the cheek. Because Rugo's after like I'm holding her and she's like hug and she like leans in and she goes kiss and then she's sideways. So I'm kind of, I'm kind of sitting there like, I was just going to go down because I know it's, I know it's awkward for the guy. Right. She did with JP and GP just kind of leaned and she just like put her face on JP's cheek. Because I'm thinking like, I wonder if JP's going to kiss her. Because I know that's like awkward.

but oh and also just throw a little shout out to myself zero text to the wife about how to do how to handle things with the room in the last nine days I feel like that is a stat that it's going to go you know not recognize or talked about you just going to throw myself some flowers there zero take that was one thing charles said she's like you did you you had zero text to me because she talked about her and the wives were kind of like talking out like oh it's kind of nice that the husbands aren't like texting us about like what to do and I'm like you got a yeah you got a good little deal back on that scoreboard of filthy for you right now filthy bro she came in kind of like uh what did she do she was like uh she asked about like the mail like oh i didn't like see something about by the way i saw all of our all of our cards all of our the credit cards for for bussing and uh i'm thinking like okay you noticed that i might not have checked the mail but you didn't notice that the that the uh little seat

corner area over there no more boxes all the boxes go on the garage i just start listing everything and she's like yeah you did all that Like, do you want like a cell- Are you married to Mike Rable? She's like, do you want like a celebration for holding down the house? Yeah, yeah. I was like, I mean, I guess when you put it that way, I am doing my job. But either way, your boy's intentional.

Your boy's starting to come around. See, the way you just- I'm thinking to myself like, you, unfortunately, like I catch myself throughout the week where I was like, oh, I'm going to like leave food out. I'm going to do other things. But I caught myself like, clean it up and doing all that. And I'm thinking to myself like, God damn it. Like, I have been a little trained and domesticated.

But I'm thinking like, okay, yeah. I guess I am just doing my job, but fuck, like your boys, your boys starting, your boys getting better. Yeah. Your boy's being solid. Appreciate the progress. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, massive progress. Massive.

But, yeah. The way you paint that picture. That is the standard. That is the standard. The way you paint the picture of Charles, I just see her coming home from France and putting her bag down and then immediately they just got like saying hi to Roo real quick and then looking all over the house. Just scouting the house. I see what you fucked up. I noticed you didn't get the mail.

Check that before I came in the house. Yeah, she's like, did you happen to see them? I guess I didn't check them out once throughout the week. But, that is. In the last, some solid dad memories. Some very good core memories of Roe. And here's the thing about Bustin with the boys, folks. If you are still somehow with us, you, when you, I see you dealing with Rue and getting the scoreboard up, this weekend in my head,

I had you in room. I had to be like, I had to get my scoreboard up a little bit. So kids came in the room. I got up with them in the morning, made breakfast, like did all the things let tail and sleep in and i know on this monday i'm feeling good about my scoreboard i love that i'm feeling good about it we need more dads we need more dads showing up because you're i mean listen moms do a lot too but i feel like dads are underappreciated in the in the parent category this is where it gets a little slippery i know moms do a little bit too moms do moms do so much moms do the most yeah yeah yeah well i get it moms are number one however i think dads are underrated and how much they do.

Can be. Yeah, can be. I'm not saying every dad's a good dad, but I see, I see, dads have feelings. Dad,

dads have, that's have things going on and struggles in their own lives with parenthood as well. I see the, I see the dads I surround myself with and I appreciate the dads

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Yeah, man, I'll come on. You get me on whenever, brother. Is that man, bro? Yeah. Go get after it. It was good to be here, man. It was your first vibe at the bus. Like, how do you feel about when you walk in here?

I don't want to go camping in this bad, boy. I want to spend some more time in this thing. This thing is. It's good. This thing is one of those deals, man, where you kind of just get in it. And it just completely puts you in a different mood. Yeah. You have this.

What's a vibe? No, that's a. That's it. How's it? I'm going on. I bet they're here I think I can go about it I got this whole camera right here what a way to start no those are the mango ones I want the I want the espresso ones you ever do Lucy do nicotine at all you ever try these uh Zinnies no they're Lucy's I can't uh you got

yeah so the how you like that first taste yeah like a latte man yeah laitay yeah that thing is nice they got these little breakers in them too, you just pop them and it makes a flavor that much better. You're kidding. A bite down on it. You should feel like a little ball in their burst. Like a little orgasm in your mouth. Like a little orgasm in your mouth. Like a little camel crush from 2024.

Do those camel crushes and then camel snooze as well? You ever do those? No. They were like little, tiny, like oval pin. They have a popper in it? No, there's no pauper in it. But it had the same kind of thing I camel crush at. Camel crushes.

18 to 23 years old? You got a little festival or something like that? Yeah, it took all that, the pain out of the lungs. You ever smoke any of those? No. Oh, bro. No. Those things are where it's at.

Lucy's the first, I mean, the pouches was like the first time I did the, I experienced nicotine. Yeah, you never smoked a cigarette or nothing. What's your drug life like? Yo, y'all, my drug life? Just, pretty clean marijuana these days. Yeah? It's pretty marijuana. Pointy diet.

Yeah, that's it, bro. I barely, I don't even, I hadn't drank in three months. For real? Yeah. What was there? Was there a reason for that? Or you kind of just like, I just kind of want to get away from it. hard for a while and then I was like I just feel like I need to take a break yeah and so I took a break

and now I'm just like oh I feel pretty awesome so I'm that because of the road actually that was just because I was on vacation and I was just going ham and then I'm like oh I need to just I need a break and that was in like the beginning of December show yeah so you just been kicking it off since middle of December even through the holiday season yeah everything birthday all of it Cabo trip you know just getting after anytime you're in Cabo too like you get towards mango deck you get something like squid row in those areas you're like I can't not drink. I can't not drink.

It's not a place for me, not that. But to be sober is a ridiculous concept. In Kappa San Lucas. I'm, I'm like, I don't know if I'm gonna, I'm not, I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna drink anymore,

but it's just nice to like, feel pretty awesome. It's interesting, like, what's super wild to me is like playing sports, drinking before your activity, whatever your thing is, is like a total phil pava.

Like in your world, it seems like a couple drinks before you even go on. Oh, it's like the norm, norm. Things to do. Oh, yeah.

That's been my norm for 12 years. Really? You have a couple, like, take out the jitters a little bit. Yeah. Do you still get nervous 12 years later? Nervous, maybe not, but, uh,

the excited butterfly feeling a bit still, you know what I mean? We're a little bit, just like, I don't know if anxious is the word, just excited a little bit. So you got to get out there and kind of like calming down.

What's your like, you ever watch a show, Onter Rush? Yeah. So, like, Johnny Drama, he would do the Awuga. When you did anything, do you have,

like anything you do to like reset yourself like all right tea hubs is about to get out because what happens is like your adrenaline gets going and it gets harder to uh your breath you know your heart rate goes up your breath your lung capacity seems to go down which is you need every bit of lung capacity to sing while you're like running around the stage so it's really about taking some deep breaths and trying to just like make sure you're at least calm enough to be able to my songs literally have no room for breathing so it's just about it's basically a lung out the whole show. So that's sort of what I... So you got to really strategize how you're going to go about this.

Yeah, like if I start to feel like, man, I'm really struggling, I'm sucking air right now. I'll just like get my guitar or stand in front of the mic and sing a song or two to kind of like... Calm it down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Get back to neutral. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You still get just as excited going out on stage? Because you've been doing it what

for like over two decades, yeah? About 12 years total, like as a professional. Two decades, he'd been like 12 out there. Yeah, I'm just thinking. You've been like Philly. I've been 17. I'm getting on up there, I guess, now. You've been in the spotlight for all 12 of those years.

Yeah, for sure. And it's still fun. Yeah, I still get like the same, I still get the same rush, dude. Yeah. Yeah, it's cool. What's the process like when you're sitting there and, like, you're back starting out and you're kind of playing clubs? People aren't really listening. And you're like, man, is this really going to be it to?

Now you're doing theaters. Now you're doing Bridgestone and all these, like, touring all over the world type stuff. Like, how was that transition dealing with? that type of fame. Oh man. Good question, bro. It's what we, uh, I would say it can be difficult. For sure. It's important to have, for me, it was important to have some support around me, you know. I also met my wife fairly early on, which was very grounding for me. And she kept me very grounded and I have some really good friends that I could kind of remain constant and it was kind of grounding but but it's definitely a journey it's a ride and if you're not careful

uh all the typical things you think they can kind of take control will you know what I'm saying whether it's ego whether it's insecurity whether it's a substance whether it's just even for me like my biggest struggle is like overworking or like being a workaholic I'd say you know like having balanced life work balance and all that it's it's a constant setting the intention and trying to stick with it and then checking yourself and making sure oh right and this week is this week balance is my next week balance so it's like you know i wear several different hats between artists songwriter husband dad and brand at times you know so i'm like all right am i is my is my weak balance in that in that way so is haley like a big piece of that making sure you're

balanced? Yeah, she is. Yep. Because we're both trying to maintain that a bit, you know, like when you got three kids, sometimes it can just be all about the kids and you realize all my marriage is a little bit, a little bit off right now or we haven't invested in our marriage in the last few weeks. We need to spend some time doing that. Or I hadn't written a song into a couple weeks.

So I need to go write some this week. But yes, like I said, it just feel like I'm constantly looking at my calendar and saying, all right, is it fairly balanced? Am I pouring into each bucket correctly? It's like, okay, I'm not necessarily pouring into the marriage yesterday. Oh, man, maybe I haven't been a home around the kids. Oh, maybe I'm not being in the studio as much yet. It seems like you've got to juggle a lot of those different things.

You have to be intentional for sure. I was your, go ahead. I was going to say, what was your insecurity when you were coming up, say before you met your wife, like you're exploding on the scene? Because you're right, it's almost like you can go down any road you want to when you're becoming like a superstar. Like you can drink, you can do all the different things. There's women.

There's, there's a status. It's okay, am I going to be at this award show? Like, am I the man? Like, what was your security coming up? I want to surround myself with yes people or people that I know are going to take care of. Right. I mean, there's all that there's all those decisions along the way that you kind of have to make, even if it's subconsciously. I would say one of my biggest fears, though, was like being, because you hear all the stories.

You know what I'm saying? You hear the downfall of all the artists. You come, you know, you come up here and about, you know, your icons and became, you know, becoming alcohol. or dealing with depression or not knowing how to manage or not or losing your friends in your community and feeling like you're alone even though you from an outside perspective it looks like you got everything you ever want but i think that was like my biggest fear so i was pretty intentional on the way up of being like all right i want to have a successful music career but i also want to have a regular life and i want to make sure that i at the end of this at the

end of this ride wherever this ride ends that i'm not just sitting there not knowing what to do like where to go from there like I want to have a family one day I want to have a healthy relationship with my wife I want to have I want to always be able to have a glass of wine at dinner if I want to without having to worry about falling off right so it's just so so kind of just staying in check along the way was was big but I think that was a fear of mine which is also why I was um you know when I felt myself slipping or I felt myself headed down a road that I wasn't excited, you know, that I knew was a dead to end, I would turn it around or

get back on track or at least attempt to. So, yeah. You bring up, like, when you bring up like, yes, men, and you say, do I, right, who do I want to surround myself with? Like, I feel like anybody who's getting into, whether it's music or sports or any sort of entertainment that is in a spotlight, the most difficult thing to navigate is yes, man.

Because no one likes me told you're wrong. But when people say, hey, you're on the right track. You're doing this. You're doing great at that. It's so easy to fall into, like, oh, maybe I am. doing better than I thought I was doing or like taking more of the suggestion of the yes man than the people that are trying to keep you and check that have your best interest involved like how did you when you say you were like really conscious about keeping those people out of your life how do

you sniff that out man I don't I don't know I think it's a kind of a gut thing but what happens to me is like when I'm around those types of people I realize that their opinion is doesn't really matter much because they're only telling me what I want to hear they're not telling me all they're not always telling me truth. So like when I could when I could tell that I had a friend or my wife or a manager or somebody in the band that would shoot me straight, it only validated what they would say when it was positive, right? When they're like, that's an awesome song. You're not just telling me that that's an awesome song because you want me to feel good. You're telling me that because you're being honest and being truthful and it means a ton more. So I was just really drawn to the people that

would be like, hey, bro, I don't really love that song as much. You know what I mean? I'm like, oh, all right i can take that because i know you're shooting me straight and the more success i had the more valuable those relationships became for sure how close are you able to talk about one of those situations where you did get close because you talked about going down different paths and realizing some could be dead ends is there a time like in your career where you're like man i really almost went off the fucking wagon here i mean i think i got fortunate and uh without bringing too much spirituality into it i definitely feel like god was looking out for me because there were times where especially at the beginning bro like we're in a van just roughing it and literally just like drinking straight jack daniels every night

popping in a natterol so we could drive to the next show like and just kind of getting into that lifestyle we're just like man we're out here grinding but we're you know we're also partying you know you're meeting girls that you don't know you're uh you know that was kind of short-lived for me but ultimately i saw pretty quickly like yo this could this could end and no telling what kind of consequences, right? Like life-changing scenarios here. So again, that fear was set in of like, man, I don't want that. Like, like, I've been here. I've done that a bit. So, like, fortunately, like I said, I met Haley early on, like, 2013's when we met. So I was already like, in my mind, I was ready to meet that girl.

I was ready to meet Haley because I was kind of over, you know, the scene and meeting random girls and trying to do that. But I think if I was going to put a finger on a year, it's probably 2012, 2011, even 2010, when we were before we had a deal where we were just like grinding, bro. And we were, you know, just in a club every, you know, four nights a week, getting drunk every night just to just to basically feel like you're surviving a little bit. chasing a dream and roughing it and, you know, just, you know. You can imagine.

Yeah, just being a young thunder cat. Yeah, it's feeling like you're doing. You're supposed to be doing. Like, you got nothing to lose at the time. So you're just going for it. Yeah. And when you're in your early 20s, dude,

a hangover's nothing. Yeah, they're non-existent. You wake up and you're like, I feel kind of bad about myself. I'm going to move forward. Yeah, I'm going to keep up.

Yeah. You don't be the guys not, hey, boys, not me tonight. Yeah. I'm going to go sleep in the van. It's like,

oh, come on, bro. And you're like, that's all right. All right. like, all right, I'm ready to play a show. Yeah. When you were hitting the van, what was, like, the moment for you that you're like, oh, shit, we're going to make it?

I would say in 2012, we were on a tour called the Country Throwdown Tour. We were the only band that was in a van driving ourselves around the country, and it was a bunch of acts on this tour. And we were the barbecue band. So to be on this tour, we had to agree to play in the afternoon. This was a summer tour as well. So it was like 100 degrees every day. We were playing at 2 o'clock. Then we load our gear up into a semi that was on the tour

because we had a trailer that they made us leave at home because they gave us a Kingsford barbecue grill and smoker that we pulled behind the van. And we would play our show, load our gear up, again, probably struggling from the night before. So we're like, you know, hung over. And then they give us a pocketful of cash and say, all right, you got to go grocery shopping

and get enough food for the whole tour with this money. And you guys are cooking the hamburgers and hot dogs tonight. And we were the party, like the life of the party. So whenever anybody in the whole tour act, crew, band, it didn't matter. When they got done playing, they would come to where we were at, where we were set up, and we were cooking for the whole tour, the whole rest of the night, had the music blast and kind of like setting the pace for the party. And it was a lot of fun, but we were the first ones up.

And then we were the last one. Then we'd, midnight would roll around or one o'clock. We'd pour a bunch of water on the grill, try to get it to go out. We'd load up in the van. Like I said, somebody popping Adderall, and we would just take off down the road. Literally, sometimes there's still like embers flying from the grill going down the interstate. And driving ourselves around the southeast and Midwest on that tour was, that was the roughest. That was definitely the roughest tour.

But at the same time, to answer your question, that was when we started to feel some traction and see people. That was when crews came out. We started seeing people show up early to watch us play and sing the words. And me and BK look at each other like, bro, bro, there's like fans out here, dude. Like, holy cow. And we're starting to fill the momentum. And by the end of that tour, we were like, we thought we were the biggest thing on the tour. But we were still, you know, we were like.

Still grilling. Still grilling. Still grilling. Go to clueling. That's it, dude. Dude, that is. Were there any notable acts like on that tour? Gary Allen was like one of the headliners.

Airplane's great. There was a few more. I think the year before Brantley Gibber had done that. But there was, it's so long, I can't even remember. I just remember watching Gary Allen. Josh Thompson was on that tour as well, which I was a big fan of him. But Gary was the headliner, so we were kind of watching and dreaming and taking notes from him. You watch him?

What were the things that are you doing? How did he operate? We were usually busy cooking, but yeah, I'd hear him from a distance. Was he one of those guys that turned in earlier? Was he up? No, Gary would stay up. Yeah, he was one of the last. He'd come, he'd get done, then come over to our,

you know, area and hang out and have a burger and do the thing. Yeah, he wasn't afraid to stay up late. You guys had all that traction, like coming off that tour. Like, what was the big break? Like, what was the big moment where it's going from like, oh, damn, people are showing up to our shows like, BK, this is fucking sick, blah, blah, blah, to like the big moment comes and you guys get, you know,

whether it's a deal, whatever it is, so where your big break finally came. I think there was a few moments for me. This sounds a little silly, but when I moved to now, Nashville, I realized there was a career called songwriting. And I was like, oh, I just thought, like, everybody wrote their own stuff. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I realized pretty quickly, like, I think that's what I want to do.

So when I graduated college, me and BK. both, we were just pursuing being a songwriter. And so in 2012, we signed our first deal and we signed a publishing deal, which paid us $1,500 a month. And that was, they basically asked, what is it going to take to cover your bills? you to write full time and it's about 1,500 bucks. So at that point, to be honest, as weird as that sounds, I remember feeling like I'm a professional songwriter now. Like, I've done it. Yeah, here we go.

And like, I don't have to wash cars anymore. Like, I can fully wake up and focus on writing songs, which was a dream for me. So that was probably the first, like, feeling like, man, I've made it, like I'm a professional songwriter. And then there was a moment. I remember when we've got our first tour bus, that was also. After being in vans, sprinter vans, we started out in BK's Tahoe, you know. So, like, when we got a tour bus to where we could actually lay down and sleep through the night and have a driver,

that was one of the biggest moments for us is like, bro, we've made it. We got a tour bus. So there's a lot of, you know, along the way moments where you look back and, you know, in hindsight, you're like, we didn't have nothing really going. But in our mind, like, we had made it. Yeah. Take small steps, man. First you're driving, then you're on the tour bus,

next to flying, next flying private. Like there's always like a new level. Yep. Is there, when you started to have this level of success, like what to you is like the pinnacle of reaching whatever new goal you have in your mind right now? Wait, say that again right now? Right now, during Florida Georgia Line,

during whenever you feel like, because right now you're in a transition and coming off a great album going into a new album. But like, let's say the pinnacle of Florida Georgia Line, did you see it going even further and where was that point? Oh man. I think selling out stadiums is obviously sort of the pinnacle of where we took it, where we thought it could go,

where we dreamed of it going, you know, and we played, I think when we did that tour where it was a baseball stadium tour and it was Backstreet Boys and Nelly were opening for us. Oh, that's what. So it was backstreet, Nellie. and then us and it was just you know I was living out my wildest you know childhood dreams basically or middle school dreams being on tour with Nelly and then getting to see back

street do their thing like it was just nostalgic for me and it was a pretty surreal tour so I would say that was one of those moments where I'm like bro it doesn't get any better than this man we got sold out stadiums and getting to play with some of our heroes and and you know to answer your question about if we saw it getting any bigger i i don't know man i mean it the journey was kind of like the trajectory was insane at the beginning so it really just took us we just buckled up dude and kept our head i mean you guys exploded on the scene it was just like even because you you like did a collab with now right yeah which was i i remember that like that is like you guys did explode on the scene quick so it's almost like you just went like a vertical line and just like stay there yeah

yeah buckle up bro so and then it kind of Like most careers do, it, it had to eventually slow down a bit. And it did. And we had kind of our ups and downs and kind of some great seasons and sort of some like, oh, that didn't hit as hard as we thought. But for the most part, man, I mean, that was just the wildest ride. Looking back, I mean, I wouldn't trade anything. I wouldn't change anything.

And it was just incredible. But it really kind of set me up for what we're doing now, you know, getting to kind of redo it and take everything I learned from. back in the day and reapply it to the solo career and also getting to go back and like to where we fell in love with it the first time like these clubs and theaters and smaller venues that are super intimate and you get to connect with the fans and like uh because you lose that along the way like when you get in bigger bigger venues it's a lot more difficult and then it just becomes redundant because you go and you play the the same 50 venues over and over and over and amphitheaters and so

to be able to go back and kind of reinvent myself like reconnect with the fans and these cool clubs and stuff, it's been, like, super, super awesome and, like, giving me new energy. When you're on the trajectory you're at, and you have those years really, okay, that didn't hit as hard as we thought it was going to, like, how do you, like, navigate the ego in that situation? Because if you're on this crazy trajectory and you think, it's going to keep going like this,

because inevitably, we all think, like, oh, this is going to happen forever until reality sets in. When those lulls did happen, like, what was your mindset of, Is it like, hey, I just got to work harder? Or was it like? So, and I had people on the come up that were like, hey, bro, this ain't going to last forever. And not a ton of people would say that. But when it did, it really stuck with me that you need to be prepared for when this is not doing what it's doing because it won't do it forever, right?

So I was somewhat mentally prepared for the trajectory to somewhat level out. And when it did, I do think it motivated me for sure. Like I'm kind of a driven dude and probably more competitive than I like to give myself credit for. But yeah, to have a little bit of a challenge or a struggle or to try to understand why didn't that connect like we thought it would? You know, a lot of learning lessons along the way. But I would say, you know, the ego thing, I don't know, man. I took it. I took it in stride, I think.

I think it was good for us to have little blows to the ego occasionally and keep us kind of ground. it and then and then yeah nothing more humbling than having to start all over again you know not from ground zero but pretty close to it so it's been uh last couple years for me have been um just a lesson a life lesson in humility and you know and taking and taking that um challenge head on you know what I'm saying I've had a couple people tell me like well you can't come out of a band and then have a successful it's like never been done like nobody's had a big solo career after being a major career in a band. So I heard that like two or three times and I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah. Let's go then. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah, that is true. I mean, it's like the example

a lot of people are aware of due to the movie, but a queen. Yeah, Freddie Merger. He broke up. Yeah, and Freddie kind of tries to do his own thing. Why go the solo route? Like what, what happened beyond the way with you and BK that's like to where Florida, Georgia line can't be forever? Yeah, good question. I mean, for me, it was, it was really unexpected. but BK came to me and said man I'm really feeling like I want to do a solo thing and I'm like I'm like we were just getting out of our first deal we were kind of in a sweet spot that we had worked for 10 years to get to and I'm like bro like why don't we just ride this ride this thing out for like five more years 10 more years and then we can do the solo thing or whatever but uh

but again like I wanted to support him he he was adamant like now now's my time I really need to do this for myself and i'm like well hey whatever you need to do bro like what do you want for me he's like i just want support so i'm like all right you got it bro like we've had an incredible ride this is where it's going to go like let's do it and and crush it and you never know maybe it'll bring us back together and we can have a reunion tour or whatever but uh but it was he he definitely initiated the whole thing from the beginning and it kind of when i say caught me off guard it wasn't that we had never mentioned it before it's just one of those things right at and think then i didn't think it was going to happen then you know what i mean coming into a deal like

you just said coming into a spot to where yeah just in a sweet spot just gotten out of our first deal able to kind of negotiate where we want to go from there and have a lot of freedom and we're in a great place um but yeah for him that was the right time and and for me i was like well i'll just again i kind of thought well i'll just stay in town and be a songwriter that sounds like a fun gig you know just 11 to 3 life and hang out with the fam at that point i had we had we had just had our third kid. So I was pretty, you know, in the deep end on being a dad and figuring all that out. So I was pretty preoccupied.

But then a year or so later, I was like, man, I really miss, like, making records. I miss being on tour. I missed the whole aspect of the artist's life. And so, so yeah, then I met my manager and felt really supported. I was like, man, I don't die back into this and see what I can do. And again, like I said, I heard that it couldn't be done a couple of times. times. I was like, man, I'd like to try. Yeah. So, so yeah, just sort of timing and life in general.

It just sort of led us in that direction and something that now I'm really grateful for. It's been a lot of fun. Rebuilding. It's been a lot of fun. Like, it's incredible doing something with your friend and having a partner, but taking the dynamic back to the basics of just like me getting to be the leader that I'd like to be and getting to do it on my own and getting to kind of build culture around, you know, the type of culture that I want to build. And you got to think about it. When we started FGL, we were like 23 years old, bro. Like we, like we were just young, dumb, and on a mission, you know what I'm saying?

And learning as we were going, now I get to kind of take all that and kind of rebuild with that in mind and a little bit more maturity and a little bit more gratitude and humility and all that makes for a, makes it for a fun ride. When you're first, like, presented with the, hey, I want to go on my own solo route. Like, is your first reaction, like, oh, I'm going to support you or is it the natural? Yeah, like, you know, first reaction you're just like, hey, busting. We're not. Hey, I'm not going to start my own podcast.

I'm not just thinking, what, what's going on? I'm going to you right now, but hey, well, I know it's a contract year. But honestly, I'm thinking about doing my own thing now. Well, yeah. You're just like, you'd be a little confused. As your friend, I need your support. And you're just like, okay, I support you. Shit?

Yeah. Yeah. It's got it. I mean, confused. It's easy. but like, yeah, the human nature, like, anybody who essentially, like, if you're together for 10 years, like, there's a level of divorce. Like, you guys are in a marriage, essentially.

Yeah. And then you're not the one approaching the person about leaving. Right. There's got to be some type of, like, you know, are you all the work I did? Bro. I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, where we've came from, where we've been.

I put those burgers. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were just the toppings guy. Right. Yeah. Right. Right.

There was definitely a period of time where I was just, like, confused. And I'm just like, bro, like, why? Like, why now? And I even told him, we had good conversations around it, like, even, like, being real vulnerable. I'm like, bro, is it not? Like, I feel like I'm not enough for you. Like, you know what I mean?

Like, honestly, it felt like a divorce where you're like, bro. And BK had this thing where he's like, no, I still want to do Florida Georgia line. I still love you. I just want to do the solo thing too. Well, you want an open relationship. And I had to tell him, I go, bro. from an emotional standpoint. I said, I know this is dramatic,

but this is what it feels like. It feels like we're in a marriage and everything's great, and we love the benefits. But you want to go sleep with the neighbors and come home at night and maybe cool with it and just like jump back in bed and everything's cool and blah, blah, blah.

And I said emotionally, it feels like that, bro. Like, I can't do both. I said, I'm going to give you the choice, but it's either Florida, Georgia, line, or solo career. Because also I don't have capacity to like do two careers. And I said it's also like super, it's going to get super sticky.

Like when we're writing songs, who are we writing for? When we got two show offers, an FGL date and a solo date, like what are we taking here? So like, I'm just like I don't even logistically see how that would work much less emotionally.

So like, unless BK opens for both of you. Right. Unless we're going to. Unless we open for. When a writing, like who's, hey, that's a banger.

Are we thinking we're going to use that? Yeah. One thing I did know is like, yo, it takes every ounce of creativity and energy that we got to keep this thing going. And we've always poured all of our energy into this. So like to think that we can only pour half of our energy into this and expect it to do anything is a little bit naive. And then I also told him, I'm like, bro, if you want to be a solo artist, you don't deserve to give yourself 50%. And I don't deserve 50% of you. So it's either you give me 100% or you give yourself 100% of you.

So you can go crush it. but there's no like we're not just going to half ass both things so so for me it was that's kind of where my that was my one boundary you know i was like yeah i'm all about it dude like whatever you need to do but here's my boundary and so kind of gave him the choice and he chose to go do the solo thing and at the time like you said i was kind of like man like dude like this sucks bro like we we built look what we've built you know what i'm saying together like you and me you know what i'm saying and so yeah there was definitely some weeks of kind of like healing i would say you know what i'm saying like we had talks with therapists and life coaches and we kind of sussed it all out yeah they're

separate together that's awesome yeah it was legitimately a marriage yeah the more you talk about it it's like yo and i always therapy right right right right i compared it to that quite a bit because other than the sexual side of things it was very similar to our marriages where you're just like you know, it's a commitment. It takes work. It takes dedication. It's, you know, it's all the things when it comes to a partnership, especially at that capacity, you know, so it was, it's been interesting to navigate,

but it's also been fun and look in hindsight now. I'm like grateful for where we're at. Grateful for that ride. Grateful for the new, you know, ride that we're on. And, you know, wouldn't have ever done it if he hadn't initiated it. So at the end of the day, I kind of just sort of grateful that he did, you know. Right. So the way I'm picturing this in my head is,

You're in a 10-year marriage. Everything seems good. Comes home, honey, listen, I love you, but I think we should make this marriage open. You're like, I'm not going to do that. You have to make a decision. The decision's made. You're going through a divorce, essentially.

And you think, in your mind, I'm never going to get married again, aka I'll be a songwriter. I can kind of fade off in the distance. I've had all this success. I can go make money making this catalog because that's where a lot of the money's at. How long was that process before you're like,

you know what to fuck this, dude? Enough people have said the solo acting can't happen. Like, if he's going to go do it, I can go do it too. And in your mind, everyone's in competition. Right. I'd probably do that better also. I think it was eight months or so, somewhere six or eight months. Not a ton of time went by, but enough for me to really process, take my time, be patient.

And then the kicker was when I met my manager. Because before I felt really alone, right? And I knew, I just felt by alone, I mean, I just didn't have tons of support. I didn't feel like I had a team around me. I felt super alone and I knew like definitely been in the game long enough to know like you ain't doing it on your own. You gotta have a good team around you.

So when I met my manager, I felt super supported. And I was just like, you know what? I think I could do this, especially with the help of this management team. And I had already been writing a bunch of songs at that point too. So I also had a good stack of songs where I'm like,

and I could like make a record tomorrow. So like, why not give it a shot? Yeah. But it did take a lot. that that like meeting him and feeling like all right i'm not alone in this i have support team i have somebody can bounce ideas off of because bk was a lot of that for me coming up we'd bounce ideas off each other um and so when that was kind of gone i'm like man i don't i don't know how to do this by myself so you know the sports and talk about that fear of failure because i would assume it's like

literally top of the world to right we just went through this divorce that probably took a while there's probably friction and everything else it takes eight months of the right of the amount of emotional healing of it all and kind of seeing everything for what it is like hey i got you know i kind of want to move on i'm writing i like it now i'm kind of getting that it's to you know i kind of want to perform but talk to that fear of failure you're like okay i'm going to go back out there and yeah man like falling flat on your face it's we we all have it it's like you we have this ego built up from like our glory days right it's like i'm about to put myself back out there talk a little bit about that fear of failure getting back in it i mean there was definitely a little bit of fear involved and i would

say for me I had to mentally just say like yo do who you doing this for you know what I'm saying like you doing it for you or you doing it for some other reason so I had to really just say like if I'm writing songs that I'm loving if I'm recording and I'm proud of my art then that's all I can do right so like whether it's as big as FGL it probably won't be because not many artists have ever been as big as FGL so it's like I had to kind of just accept like this might look different for me but I want to go write songs that I'm passionate about that I love that might connect with other people

and start playing shows again. Also, you know, I also had so much more to live for, right? So it wasn't like do or die with the music thing. It was like, man, let me just go enjoy making music and playing shows

and just enjoy it and not worry about having to be the best all the time. Because then I was getting to come home to three kids, a great wife. So in my perspective, I was like, yo, I'm already, I'm winning, man. Like, even if the music thing isn't as big as FGL or trajectory doesn't take off like crazy. Like, I'm proud of my album.

I'm proud of who I am. I'm proud of how we've handled the situation. And I'm proud to come. Now I get to come home to a great family. And this is how I want to continue to support them, you know. And I had to do something. I mean, writing songs would have supported my family. But it just seemed like a piece of the puzzle, not the whole puzzle.

right so yeah there was i had to step into that a bit and be like hey if if i fail i'm going to learn from it get back up and keep crushing and and not put too much pressure on myself uh try not to let my ego drive this thing and uh you know remember what life's all about yeah because at one point seems like at least the way i would think is i'm going to go through my morning process but then the thing that's going to get me out of that bed is revenge right best revenge is massive success right and then it's like okay i got to check myself and be like maybe maybe don't do it for those reasons right right right then all the things you just said yeah man when you were when you did those eight months eight months of like writing songs you're like okay i'm gonna go do this solo act now you and bk shouldering the burden of

being a lead together what were some of the things that bk maybe have done more in fGL that you thought okay i know that he did this for the most part and how do i pick up that slack on my end becoming my own individual person um good question bro i'd say he was a lot of the times he was like the fun loving like funny guy like lighthearted uh brought a lot of good energy to a room you know everybody uh loved to be around bk especially for the most of our career he was just like and i might have been more like uh i don't know maybe a little bit less of that person so so i'd say there were times where he was a great leader and those types of things and i was able to um sit take the back

seat a bit, you know, and even subconsciously, because I was more the lead vocal and more the face at times, I would subconsciously step out of certain roles more to allow him to step into certain roles so that hopefully it was well balanced. You know what I mean? And so now, you know, taking on all the roles and putting all the, I guess, the pressure or all the responsibility on my shoulders was definitely new. But also, again, it was great because it allowed me to step into those roles that maybe I hadn't fully stepped into before to the best of my ability. Yeah.

And so now I'm able to kind of lead the way that I'd like to be a leader, create culture that's not always worrying about like, am I stepping on someone at my partner's toes or am I overshadowing my partner too much by investing in these people's lives or those types of things. It's been interesting to kind of navigate and like and see how that's, uh, that's something that I didn't even know. like until I was in it I didn't even know that like oh yeah I remember like not really investing as much into this because I didn't I didn't want to look like I was trying to just like always you know like do too much or be too much yeah try to take too much at the light you can tell you've thought a lot of this stuff

through and I really appreciate and like respect kind of your perspective on all because I'm sure it was as much as well as you can explain it right now I'm sure it was just such a like process to get to a lot of these awareness points and everything else totally and especially So y'all remember like what 2020 was like, 2021. I mean, it was chaos in all aspects of life. So like before we even decided to do this, we had already been off the road for like a year and a half,

like wondering, are we ever going to play shows again? Like what's going on with our career? Then the political thing, the political narrative came out that me and him were so different, polarizing, you know, politically. And a lot of people had these false narratives about why this was even happening because we weren't super upfront with the fans. from the beginning.

And so that was also a little unfortunate where I'm like, I'm in the back seat thinking like, no, guys, that's not really the situation or not really the case. Like, but you can't control what people are thinking or saying. So you just kind of got a ride with it and just stick to your truth and just let it be. So that was an interesting, just an interesting few years of, I mean, we all kind of went through just an interesting like how do we navigate the pandemic? How do we navigate all these factors in our culture at the time? So it was a, it was a confusing and hard time.

but grateful for it. And it seems like, yeah, when all these narratives and all these like false things of why you guys are breaking up or mutually parting, like how did you, like you obviously want to say something.

Like did you go and hit the people up? You're like, hey, can I say this? I felt like it was not really my, I don't want to say responsibility, but it wasn't my role, I felt like. And I felt like it was something that I wanted BK to do.

And I felt like it was his, I didn't want to take, that from him. I didn't want to be like, no, here's the situation, guys, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. So I kind of just sat back and I kept telling BK, bro, we need to like, I'd really love for you to tell the fans like, what's going on, like tell them your heart, tell them what we're doing, tell them why we're doing it, tell them, give them. I said, because we want our fans to join us on our new journey. We don't want them to just, yeah, just end with FGL and wonder what, whatever happened with FGL and when's FGL coming back? It needs to be a transition and these

fans we've built for the last decade that they can come with us if we allow them to, open the door and give them context. But otherwise, they're just confused and they're angry. Yeah. We're just sitting in the back. And they'll just assume. And they'll just assume. Everybody makes up stories in their heads.

So that was happening a lot. And kind of still does because we still haven't really, you know, it's not like me and BK have sat down together and told the world like the real ins and outs. Because I still think me and him both still have different, somewhat different narratives in our head about how it unfolded. But ultimately, we didn't talk about it very candidly from the beginning. so it allowed a lot of that kind of like people to make up stories and this and that. Right.

And then you throw politics in the middle of it and everybody just, then it's an easy target for everybody. Oh, yeah, well, we see why they broke up, you know. And it's like, well, really had nothing to do with that. Yeah. Whatever, you know. Yeah. It's just probably one of the, how often have you spoken this openly about that whole

situation? Just a few times. Yeah. Yeah. Inside scoop. Most people are uncomfortable talking about it. Really? Yeah, fine.

Just because I don't know why. I don't know if it's their uncomfortable. your personal business and for you to sit with a microphone your face and for me and will to be like so tell us about your breakup yeah it's got it's a you're essentially opening yourself up to not only us but everybody listening right it's therapeutic for me honestly like at this point especially it's been like three and a half years so i've like you said will i've really processed a lot um and so to talk about it it's just another part of the process for me and uh i'm kind of an open book i don't mind talking about it we might have to do like i'm just picturing it like if i'm like chilling with them

there's not a level of you that's that wants to say, hey, so what happened? Because it almost, you'd almost think the outsider, a third party perspective would just be like, oh, I probably ended badly. And it might, it might not be going as great as it once was because FGL was so high. So you almost like, you almost don't want to open up something that might be close to you. Right. It's like, okay, yeah, I don't want to navigate. You and I've known each other for what, four years.

And so I was your friend during all that. I never once, for that exact reason, be around you, knowing all this stuff's going down. But I'm like, I don't want to. Hey, so Tyler, so what's going on with all this? Because you just don't want to put your friend in that position. Yeah. You don't know how people handle it. You know, you don't know if people are more of an open book that like to talk about things

or maybe they like to keep it all in. But for me, I appreciate it and enjoyed when my real friends would be like, hey, bro, like, you doing all right, bro? You're doing good? Like, how you feeling, man? Because this shit is not easy. You know what I'm saying? And I'd be like, you're right.

It's not easy. And I'm doing okay. but here's my you know but I'm frustrated or this or that so right so we had and again there was during the time where we weren't able to see anybody we weren't able to go really hang out if you remember it was all just like virtual dates and virtual rights and virtual everything you know emotions were high people didn't want to talk about anything that could potentially be touchy or controversial or anything exact opposite only wanted to talk about that right it was like one of the two right you're right so there's a lot of that going on but uh yeah

I had some some good buddies that, you know, I kind of leaned, leaned on and kind of like, you know, help me process through it all. We should do is get a couple of years down the road and you and BK on here. Just hash it out. Just hash it out. Therapy, therapeutic sessions with Willie and. Our partners to partners. Yeah. Do you guys talk anymore?

It's pretty minimal now, bro. I don't know if BK needs some space. or what, but I still try to reach out on text and stuff, but hey, congrats on this. Yeah, that's what I do. Yeah, just congrats on the new song or whatever, whatever, but there's not a whole lot of engagement at this point, to be honest. You feel like FGL will get back together for a reunion at some point down the road? It's really hard to say. Yeah. I'll never, I'll never say never, but a lot of stuff would have to change, to be honest, a lot of dynamics would have to there'd have to be some real long open conversations yeah

some healing would have to be done for sure before that ever happened yeah yeah hopefully you both just never know yeah just bring it back i still i really yeah exactly that'd be kind of cool i'd love that like narrative honestly even if it's 10 years down the road like that's what i really wish the best for bk i hope he has a huge solo career because yeah if we both have big careers and come back and do something cool together i think it could be very big careers and then come back and do something cool together I think it could be bigger than ever. Yeah. Remember what we were bitching out back in the day?

Right. Yeah. Yeah. That was so dumb. Everyone was fun and they're like, hey, I'm sorry. Yeah. Both of them are probably like, I'm sorry for good. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I've heard nobody. No, he knows. I tell him. I'm like, bro, I'm always here, bro. If you ever want to like talk, grab coffee, like, go on a hike. Like, I'm, I'm here, bro.

I'm not mad at you. So it's good. I think he knows. He knows where I'm at. And he knows that I'm doing my thing. But I'm still here. for them. Yeah. Talk about, do you had something to go. I was just to say, so eight months down the road,

you start this, your management team comes to you like, how quickly, because you said you had songs in the bank, so you do an album tomorrow? How quickly did that process get started? It was pretty quick, bro. Once we hit the gas, I mean, it was like, let's start recording music. Let's start setting up strategy. What I loved about my new team was it was everything we do is super intentional. So like, strategic, everything. Yeah. So it was fun to really sit down. All right, what are we going to do here?

What's the goals? How do we want to, you know, reintroduce you to the world? Like, what I found was a lot of people didn't really know who I was. Like, as far as like who Tyler Hubbard is as a person, they thought they knew Florida Georgia line, even in town, you know, like we had a reputation. People just assumed I was BK and BK was me and we were one unit and we were the same. And they also assumed that we never changed in 10 years. You know what I mean?

That we're still just these crazy white. crazy wild you know same 23 year old ego testicle yeah Timberlin boots and a lot of denim and they're like okay yeah yeah sleeves and a bunch of ego like we were 23 years old even when we were 30 right it's like so and that was probably part of partially our fault

but I didn't realize that until I stepped into the solo thing and that took me a minute to reintroduce um myself to not only the world but to Nashville and to the music community and and kind of say like, hey, you guys know the 23-year-old Tyler, but now I'm 34 years old, and I, you know, I'm a different person and I want to introduce who I am now, and here's the music I'm working on.

And so all that was kind of like a blessing, too, if, you know, in hindsight, because, like, man, like, if we were still doing FGL, like, we might just still be known as the 23-year-old party band, you know? So, again, it's just another one of those kind of, blessings along the way that I got to reintroduce myself and kind of rebuild my reputation that's more authentic to who I am at this point yeah dude I'm so fascinated to kind of know about the behind-the-scenes stuff of the business of music because like you you alluded to it earlier you're

like oh they're paying me you know how much does it take to cover your expenses a month or something like that and if you're a big brain thank you're like oh man that Tyler he has no clue that he's an incredible writer and if we're just dishing of 1500 bucks a month for him to pump out songs that we might use that they might use. And then you also alluded to, oh, we're, we're about to be out of this first deal to where we're kind of set up for whatever we want to do. And then now you're talking about, you know, I'm sitting in these meetings. We're talking about strategizing.

How am I going to reintroduce myself? Can you talk about some of that behind the scenes stuff with FGL? Because it seems like, you guys just exploded. People saw like, oh, shit, these guys are going to be massive. Let's put enough dollars around them that we need to. Capitalize on it. We'll throw FGL house downtown. We'll do all these things.

You're not in the strategy meetings. Can you talk about that at all? Yeah, I mean, the music business is crazy, bro, and I think that's why I love it, and it's always changing. So, like, for example, when we signed our first record deal in 2012, there wasn't even streaming like that. You know what I'm saying? Which feels like forever ago, but like, there was no Spotify.

There was no Spotify. There was no Pandora. There was no Apple music. I mean, it was Apple. It was where you go and buy songs. Yeah. That felt taboo because you'd still just lime wire. Right.

Yeah, you hear the stealing the music, or you're going and buying songs. an album, right? And that was, and that changed pretty quickly, like 13, 14 or so is when that streaming really became a thing. So even that as an example where like, you know, you create this whole record deal around this whole business model. And then all of a sudden the business model changes and there's new revenue being created from streaming that's going to the label that they didn't even account for in the original deal. So like for them, it was a huge win. But, but yeah, bro, like the music, that's why I love the music business because as soon as you get it figured out, it changes and you're just like okay but it's also super complex and complicated and i even went to school

for music business bro i went to belmont study that was my major music business and i uh i probably could learn more in school to be honest myself but i still felt like pretty green bro i got that degree but i was still pretty green and i'm still like even to this day i'm figuring it out you know but it's a lot of fun because it is so intricate and there's so so many layers you can kind of unfold and unpeel and and And from the publishing company side of things, to the record label side, to the management side, to development side and artist side. I mean, there's just a lot of intricate little thing. So it can be a scary business just because you never really fully understand it all. But it's also fun.

It keeps you on your toes because it's not static. Would there be friction with the label, like when the new revenue would get generated from like the streaming service and be like, okay, well, I mean, contractually, they have the rights to do this, X, Y, and Z. but come on give me a little yeah let me get a little pee we had a pretty good dynamic in relationship with our record label through our whole career probably because we were making them so much money

but it was good you know and we had kind of the relationship where they were a little more like behind the scenes and we would go and do our thing creatively and then just turn in our projects and ask them for our needs and they would usually give us what we needed and it was kind of because sometimes you get too many cooks in the kitchen you know that people want to

to be involved and it can get really it can get more difficult cluttered up everybody's opinions because music is so objective and opinionated that it's just sometimes it's like no we just want to keep a tight circle of creatives that we love and trust and we're going to have you know our manager our producer and basically me and bk we're going to make the decisions and execute all the things and then we'll we'll turn it in and the label will you know exploit it or work it or however you want to look at it but uh so for that but i do talk to artists friends of mine, you know, that it can just get so diluted and confusing and kind of overcomplicated for a, so it's a complex thing. But we got pretty lucky along the way, to be honest. We never,

we never had that. But I set the stage really early with the first label meeting we ever had. I was like, look, again, this is that 23-year-old ego coming out. But I was like, hey, guys, we don't even need y'all. Me and B.K. got this. And we're going to build, and we're out here building fans and building a career. If you guys want to be a part of our career, then you're welcome to join us, but you're going to do it our way. And we're going to learn from you guys, but you guys aren't going to dictate what we do. You're not going to try to change us, tell us what to do. None of that's happening here. So if you guys want to sign us, just know that ahead of time. And literally that kind of stood the test of time. And they really kind

of like ego. Sounds like good, good, well, it was a little bit of both. But it was like beneficial ego, right? Or whatever. Like, just the ego you need. Just the amount of confidence. Like set the stage for what's to happen. Because of it's a little bit. It's a days for what's to happen because a lot of times artists don't know who they are what they want to do or nothing like that and it makes it easy for labels to come in and somewhat manipulate or you know think they're going to mold somebody into what they want a lot of times that doesn't just just doesn't work well so it was nice to have that already kind of in place with your process and like setting that tone did you ever run into like the label being like hey maybe i should make

the song a little more x y and z a little more poppy a little more like this because this is what's in right now this is what the rage is what's labels do you do you know labels do do that. Yeah. But for some reason, in our scenario, it was, they just trusted us. And I think, I don't know if we spoke this out loud, but it was sort of that understanding of you do it our way until it don't work. And then we'll listen to your way.

And fortunately for us, it always kind of worked. So we never had a real, like, creative dispute or kind of, you know, we didn't really butt heads too much. It was very much like, okay, whatever you guys want to do, we'll do it. And most of the time it worked out. There was a few times where they pushed on a single. I mean, we did have, we did but heads once or twice. And, but ultimately it worked out.

But for the most part, I was thankful. It was just like, hey, y'all let us do our thing. And we'll let y'all do your thing. What was the single they pushed on? It was one of the last singles, I think, wanted us to put out a little bit as a single at country radio, which is basically a hip-hop song. And we knew it was going to be our last single. And I was just like, I'd rather.

or not put that single out because radio is first of all not going to play this song. Secondly, I don't want to end on a hip hop song. I want to end strong on a great country song. You know, we've got an album full of country song. So that was a little bit of like, that was a little frustrating.

Because ultimately the label has a power to do whatever they wanted to really. Yeah. You have your voice. They're like, we have 51% of the boat. They kind of pulled that card and did their thing. And that's why I'm not right now.

But it worked out. Yeah, it worked out. It was great. When you talk about the strategy of like rebranding yourself, 34 year old Tyler Hubbard to the entire world, like what went into the strategy? Like how obviously you're uniquely yourself and you know who yourself is, but how does one show themselves in the light they want to be shown to the world?

Well, yo, I first of all had to go on a deep dive myself because I lost to think you, know yourself. Yeah. I took a journey. Yeah. Me and Rogers had the Malibu, dude. Talking to God. Just having a journey.

But no, dude, I spent some time, like, really diving in to, like, who I am now. How do I want to be portrayed? How do I want to present myself? What's important to me? What do I want to say in my music? What do I want my music to make people feel like? You know, and ultimately, it was a really good time of self-discovery. You know what I'm saying?

Where I was like, okay, it felt like I knew. myself well at that point. But I had to kind of vocalize it. Because I think even me, even myself would kind of fall to that, uh, holding up the reputation that we might have had. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, well, I can't do this and that within FGL because it's not what FGL does. So when the, when the slate was kind of wiped clean and I was able to just like really suss it out and take some time to think about it. Um, again, I have, I had a great life coach that helped kind of like navigate that with me. Um, um, Once the songs started like coming together, I mean, I probably had a pile of like 30 or 40 songs that I really loved, but like narrowing it down to an album and figuring out, okay, I wanted to be dynamic, diverse.

I want people to know that, hey, I still like to have a good time, but I love my family. I'm a man of faith. I like to, you know, I like to write songs from the heart too. You know, there's, I lost my dad when I was 20, so let's touch on that. Like letting the fans in on my, on a little bit more of who I am and where I came. from my story was something I had never got to do before you know because usually you know when you got a partner and you're in a you're in a group you don't get as personal with it you know um just again just for that dynamic aspect so that everything we do is like an us thing so so that was

it was really fun to dive in and be like man who am i what do i you know what do i want to leave what's my legacy you know do i want to i don't want i think fGL is just like chapter one you know and so um Yeah, it was cool to kind of go there and figure it out. I feel like now people probably know the most authentic version of who I am, and it's been fun to kind of figure that out. When you go in this deep dive and you come back, how did your management team publicly display you? Okay, you're a man of faith, family man, write songs from the heart,

lost your dad when you were 20. Was there like a strategy that I went into, okay, we need your social media, it's going to look like X, Y, and Z. Or, kind of. Because there is a level of like, to change your reputation, you need to first change it yourself and then present it to the world. So how does the management team present it to the world? Well, first of all, I'll never forget.

One of the first meetings I had with the management team was, I sat down with them and they had a, they had like a two-page paper full of questions that were like, some were surface level. Some were like really hard questions. like who are you like what do you what do you want to say to the world like really hard questions that i like sat with and lived with you know so they were getting to know me through that process but i was getting to know myself in that current current state in that current time and so once we sort of established that and they had a good grasp of like who i am my personality

what what kind of like personality traits we wanted to lean in on that were you know really who i was it was fun to kind of to kind of to kind of to strategize together but a lot of that came with sitting down with the town if you will and just face-to-face meetings man just playing on my new music sharing with them my heart sharing where i was who i was and then um just trying to be fully me you know there's a there's a there's a lot of different sides of who i am but it was fun to kind of and it took time dude i mean we've spent weeks you know they'd set up meetings with all the dsps individually so i'd sit down and um just sort of reintroduce myself very, very literally in a sense of like, you know, I know you guys know me from FGL, but here's who I am and where I'm at now in life.

And we got to say it says, win the town, or win the room, win the town, win the world. So we literally started in a room. You know what I mean? And slowly, but surely we felt like we were winning the room and then it would, then we were winning the town. And now we're in the world trying to, you know, as a process strategy. It doesn't happen overnight either. It's just, you know, one thing at a time. So that was kind of our MO.

It was probably awesome, too, like once you start playing for everybody like them, seeing the reaction, the positive reaction to your new music. Because, yeah, you're getting to know yourself, which is a very vulnerable state for anybody to be in to do that. And they'd be like, all right, well, now I'm about to step out here in front of everybody. Like, let's go fucking see. See if they, let's see if they resonate. Yeah.

Putting out that first single or playing those first few shows, you know, you're just like, well, hope they dig it. Yeah. I hope they're coming to the show. Not just that, but walking into the room with, like, you're a guitar, be like, all right, guys, I'm going to play some of this new music. Here I am. Just a bunch of suits sitting there, like, give us your best shot, brother.

Yeah. That's got to be nerve-wracking. Kind of was for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Let me do that again. Let me hit that one more time. Sorry, that's a little off.

Yeah. But it was fun. God. A challenge. So the first album comes out. It seemed like it was doing really well. I don't follow ratings or anything like that. Were you surprised, happy?

Like, what was your first, like, your emotions towards your first album? so long they came out. I was pumped, bro. Yeah. The first single went to number one, and I think that was sort of like, okay, okay, they're,

you know, I still have a spot at country radio. They're still, you know, they're behind me, they're backing me. I felt more and more support. So with more and more support,

it just came more momentum and more confidence. You know what I mean? And then I dropped my album and it was received really well. And then my second single came to country radio and it went to number one. And again,

it was just like, Okay, all right. I'm back in the game, baby. I'm, you know, and I'm competitive. I got a slot at country radio because it is super competitive. There's so many artists out there that are trying to get that spot. You know what I mean? So it was really nice to be like, okay, I still got support from country radio.

The fans are resonating with the music. At the time, you know, last year, playing tons of shows and watching every night just kind of grow and grow and grow. and just kind of took that momentum into my next project. At this point, I'm feeling like, man, I've kind of found my stride. I'm in a groove. The fans are showing up, and it's just steady growing. And watching it grows is fun.

Yeah, all for you too. Yep. Which has got to be a unique feeling. Yeah, for sure. When you look at this album, obviously the songs are going to be different, but what is the different vibe between this new album coming out and your last album? this one's probably it's a little shorter I say this album is kind of creative for the fans

and I've been saying this but it's so true last year was the first time that I met my fans like my personal fans like in person and got to play show a show for them and watch what's resonating see what's connecting see what's working see what's missing you know so I was at the same time that I was out playing all these shows I was also taking mental notes and being like

all right going straight back to the us and starting to write songs that were like, I feel like the set could use this, but I feel like I want to play something like this live, or I think the fans really dig this. And so we kind of reverse engineered this project, and it's just made, it's just a fun project. It's really made to play live. And it's really for the fans where my first project, my first album was the sole purpose was to introduce myself. You know, and to say, here's who I am, face, name, songs. You know, it's very just cut and drive.

I mean, you can even look at the album cover. It's like face, name, song. songs you know like so so now it's a little bit like okay now we know each other now let's let's have some fun with it so yeah it's feeling good song for the fans you talk about writing like like going right from a venue into the bus yeah and getting after it you hear like um when all the breakup and stuff is going on there's all national's a small town so everyone's whispered and everybody else's business and i always heard like how's the guy he really writes all the music he's really the guy the writer and so how hard like what is your process like writing is it does it come

very naturally to you writing. It does. Yeah, it does. And I've been doing it for so long, and I just love, like, living in Nashville and being around so many epic songwriters, you know what I mean? And getting in the room and collaborating and just writing songs. And a lot of times, you know, I've written with no intention, you know, just to write a song to write a song to write a song and see where it goes.

To, like, hey, this song's for us. Let's try to be very intentional with this song. We want to record this song. And then I've also, especially lately, doing tons of rights with other artists which is probably one of my top favorite things to do is try to like you know i guess pull from another artist like what do you want to say what do you basically hang the dartboard is what i call it and then sit there and try to hit bull's eye with with the song right and so and when you when you hit a bull's eye and you leave that day you just feel so like fulfilled

you're just like man right right right i think this is going to be perfect for this artist hopefully this artist now can have a big old hit and they can have a career you know and so that's really fulfilling for me as a songwriter but uh but yeah when it comes to writing for me it did take a little bit of time to kind of like shift the narrative and think okay i'm not writing for a band i'm not writing for fgl this is a whole other thing so what do i want to yeah what do i want this to be like how do i get to know this artist and bring out what they're wanting to say yeah bro i sit in a room and just started asking questions for a little while before we even get get going right and just like, all right, like, what's next?

Where do you, where do you want to go? What kind of song do you want to, you know, do? What do you need? You know, when are you recording next? What's your project sound like? Just because if you're writing, if you don't set the intention, then you can write a great song and it can be like a great song that completely doesn't fit what they're doing.

So sometimes. Right. It's important. Where some of those guys are they write with the most? Yeah. Yeah. Ooh. You know a lot of those guys.

Yeah, also I want to know who his favorites were. Or not favorites. I'm sure he loves them all. But we tell them loves them all, but we're going to talk them all. Yeah, those couple collaborations you really enjoyed. Man, there's some good ones, dude. Chase McGill comes to the top of mine. He's a buddy of mine that's just super talented.

My producer, Jordan Smith, he's a lot of fun to write with. I've been writing with him for years, and he's just become quite the song Smith. Michael Hardy. Sorry, Hardy. Yeah, he is one of the best, in my opinion. We've been writing for a long time. It was the first day I heard his first name, too. I know Michael.

I know. I was like, is that? I'm a heart. Okay, all right. I thought it. That's when. Snow, he's a, uh, Ernest. Yeah.

No. He's a sick. He's a sick writer. I knew that one. That's an OG throwback. Right. Right. Uh, there's a lot, bro.

I mean, there's some legends. Rodney Clausen and, you know, Craig Wiseman, people that believe to me coming up. I still love writing with them and look up to them a ton. But like I said, there's, this town's so full of great writers, dude. It's great. Josh Miller comes to mine. He's one of the greats.

Casey Brown, producer, writer that I love. Just naming them all. So we're going to keep going. So nobody gets the feelings hurt here. He's ripping them all. If you don't forget anybody. Ernest, dude, he seems like, I mean, that's the one that comes in mind for me always. You know him and like, party would be a lot of fun in the room with.

Yeah. They can both do anything. They can do rap, rock, country, really well. Oh, yeah, emo. Yeah, Emo. Emo album is so good. I'm like, bro, y'all don't even know, aren't. Right.

I got a phone full of songs that y'all ain't never heard. Yes. That are going to blow your mind that this is earnest. He sounds like that. He's been on me about releasing that. Emo? No, that podcast we did in Super Bowl with him.

Oh, I know. He hit the chat recently. Oh, did he? I think we got a reason to have him back on to. Oh, do we?

Yeah, yeah. A new album? No. Oh, we'll talk about it. Yeah, yeah. Not in front of Tyler. No. No, no, we can't in front of Tyler.

I'm just, we don't want to give the fans the people. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. Yeah, but the Ernest, that dude, this the shit he pulls out of his ass right nowhere to me is like so impressive and the the uh

like the fear like you know it's like singing in front of somebody just on a whim it's kind of like like nerve-racking even i don't sing right i'll do it but i get nervous right and ernest will just kind of just kind of just like out of nowhere it's kind of just like you know it's like oh okay i guess we're in it yeah you'll sing like not 10 seconds he'll sing two and the whole song right right right right with the whole song yeah it's like um we Are we enjoying ourselves? Yeah, he's a, he's a beast, bro. He really is.

It's been fun watching him coming to his own and, like, you know, do his thing. He's got an album coming out similar time as you, too. Does he? Yeah. Great. I believe so. Nobody's going to even hear about that, I guess. Oh, I shouldn't have said that.

I don't know, I didn't know it was racing. The race of the top. He got like 26 songs on that thing. When does your new album come out? April 12th. April 12th. Let's fucking go. Ernest comes out April 11th.

Right around the corner. Oh, come on, bro. Cock block. I actually don't know what it is. I know it is. It's a summertime, but April 12th. Is there anybody else on the album or is just you? Just me, man.

I like that. No collaborations. Yeah. But I'm about ready. I need to dive back into the collab world. I've been pretty intentional about, I've said no to a lot just because I'm like, it's not time. I still need to like basically get my own two feet, planted in the ground, and then we can get back to making some music. How do you sift through that in your mind of like doing a collaboration?

Like if a guy like, you know, Hardy or Jelly or these other guys that, you know, have had the soul. fellow act for a little bit. Yeah. That would help you get there faster. I think it's all about the song. I think the song's got to be great first and foremost. And then it's got to be about the timing. And then they got to have a good team.

Or I'm not really interested because I've been there and done that. And if you don't have a good team or you don't have an artist where the strategy lines up timing-wise, it can be difficult. You know, so those three things have to check off the list. And then, yeah. To me, it's mainly about the song, though. It's got to be a killer song. That would be a banger?

Yeah. Man. But Hardy's got a bunch of them. He's somebody I'd collaborate with. I mean, all those guys I'd work with. It's just got to be the right time. How do you say, how do you politely say no to somebody that you know?

I'm pretty direct at this point. Yeah? Yeah. I'm just like, hey, for me right now, I hope you understand. But I'm being intentional about doing no collaborations. I've said no to a bunch of people. And unfortunately, right now, timing-wise, is in something I can do. Yeah, done.

Most people understand. And I mean, you know, there's been no hard feelings. Yeah, yeah, I get shot down all the time. But yeah. I hear no all the time, too. So trust me, I'm pitching songs left and right. If you ain't comfortable here and no, then you ain't going to make it in the music business. Right.

Right. That's a good point. Yeah. Dude, I do got to say, I'm excited to listen to your new album, especially like sitting with you and listen to you, talk through all this stuff. Really appreciative of you being open about it all. Of course. You can tell you've went on kind of the journey with it all. Yeah.

Just touching on a lot of like the therapy words of talking through it. Like we've sat in, we've sat with therapists and stuff. Like, not like me and him together. Maybe we should. Mayor's canceling. But yeah, no, for real, I'm really excited to listen to your new album, man. And thank you. Thank you for coming.

Of course. Thanks for having me. Been a long time coming. Long time coming. I've been excited to be here. We'll have to get you on after too. Let's do it. Three months down the road.

Let's check in. Yep. How's that going to? BK. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We should do that eventually. When the time is right, right.

Yeah, when the time is right. Oh, and make another vlog working out. Remember when he did the work? Yeah, bro. That's right, bro. Got your ass buried. Yeah. You can't own it, though.

Sometimes I drive past that field, I'm like, oh. That field hurt me. That was fun, though. Slide pushes and pulls, man. Our no fucking joke. Yeah, it was a good time. Back after it now, boys, I'm training. I'm getting ready.

Hey, you said you told me you're getting up at like 4.30 in the morning. Working out of five. It's a new thing I'm doing just for, not forever, just for like three months. I'm like, I'm going to set a goal. I'm going to do this for three months. I'm about two and a half months in, so I'm feeling good. Yeah, two and a half months in. You're four weeks in.

You're like, two and a half months. I'm about ready to come right there. You know? You get four-thirty's no joke. That's not. That's a big boy time to get out. It's not. Even today, I was like, and I can wake up.

And once the workout's going, I'm straight. But then after the workout, it like hits me again. I'm like, oh, bro, I can just go. Oh, I'm dead. Yeah. It's fun. And to be honest, like, that's the time I had to pick to, like, be consistent. Because my schedule's so all over the place.

kids waking up at 6.30 and getting ready, you know, school things. There was not really a window that I could be consistent with. So I'm like, you know what? We're just going to do it. Well, we work out at the same place. And I have to, I have to legit be there at 6 a.m. for me to get the things I have to get done because my kids were off to school, 715. Like, we live 25 minutes away from our school.

And he cruises in there 6.30. I'm thinking, I was chilling. I had those 30 minutes. Yep. Just, you know, soon. When your kid also goes to school as us. You sat out in your truck for like 15, 13, 30 minutes. extra minutes. I saw your wagon here sitting out there while I was finishing my workout.

I was at home of origin for a second man. But the one time I show up at 6.30? You know, sometimes I get home and Taylorin's already putting the girls ready. I'm like, I'll sit down here. I got to work to do in this car for another 20 minutes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll see that too, but yeah. It's different when you're like, you're not on your own schedule always. Right. That's just the, with the school thing too. Yeah, man. This is the route to go because you want to be home in the morning and play that put on the dad hat, put on the husband hat, the partner hat. Absolutely. It's like the only time, too. get it done that's why i was literally like just three months then i'll reassess i'll reassess where my life's at

because i'm about to start tour which is going to be i can't get up at 4 30 on tour because i can't go to bed at nine o'clock like i can't at home you know i'm saying so it'll be an adjustment but we'll keep it rocking and then if you work out choose to work out in the afternoon the morning gets going to the day gets going and you kind of like just push it off bro you don't do if i don't do a first thing then i'm probably not going to do it's the same with me but i'll tell myself all day and tell I'll lay my head in the pillow at night. I'm gonna do it. Okay, 9 p.m. I'll make my way.

After dinner, I'll put the, hey, right, right. 30 minutes in real quick. I'm like, man. Never have. I'll just wait till tomorrow. Yeah, yeah. I didn't lose it a lot.

I'm pretty good. Tomorrow's gonna be good. I'll make up for today. Consistency is the hardest thing to do. We appreciate you, man. Bro, thanks for having me, boys. Yeah. This is a lot of fun.

It's called Strong. Strong. I'm working out. Here we go. Strong. April 12th. Let's go. April 12th.

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