Bussin' With The Boys - We Got C&D'd - Introducing "Inside The Bus" + The Aura Of Taylor Swift
Episode Date: July 3, 2025Recorded: July 1st 2025 | Welcome back to another episode. We have gotten so big that we have officially got C&D'd and can no longer be called "The Back Of The Bus". So we know introduce you to In...side The Bus. The show is exactly the same but just had to change the name. We get into what happened and why we decided on our new name. Following that we get into Jarod "Demon" going to Vegas with Taylor. He talks about his experience and tells some stories that you wouldn't have heard on the main pod. After that we get into Tight End U and the guys tell their experience of meeting Taylor Swift. We are missing some guys this week so it's just JP, Mitch, Coop and Jarod, enjoy!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hit a tail.
Hit a tail.
Demon, demon.
No, done.
Hey, where's your robe?
Where's my robe?
Yeah.
I left it in Vegas.
I left a lot of things in Vegas.
I left my motivation, my dreams.
Boy, I didn't leave is some money.
Your boy came up.
How much you, wait, wait, wait.
Actually, we know how much you.
made if you listen on bus with the boys you know how much jare made and also you're
missing people yeah yeah yeah and jack are out of town shirm is having a baby so he's before he's
running it yeah and we got matt on the sticks yeah we got intern matt on the sticks and if you
notice that we did not post a lot of content from our podcast with george kittle that is because
we have gotten see indeed we were see indeed and our legal team is on it they're taking care of it to
make sure we don't have to delete our channel.
We weren't trying to rub any feathers the wrong way,
but when you make waves on this podcast.
When you're getting George Kittle on your pod,
and you're as big as we are,
people are going to start to notice.
And there was another pod out there called the back of the bus.
Shout out to them.
Some guys out of Columbus.
Shout out to you guys.
So we are now, should we introduce our new name?
Yeah, yeah.
Tell them the new name.
Let's rip it.
So our new name is now,
Inside the Bus.
Welcome.
Welcome to Inside the Bus, episode 8.
Technically, episode one of Inside the Bus.
New and Bright.
I like it more.
Yeah.
Coup was saying, yeah, what were you saying about how you like the name?
What, inside?
I just feel like it's kind of like, I don't know.
Can we compare it?
Yeah, yeah.
It's like inside the NBA.
That's the vibe we're trying to bring.
This four right here.
You better get to see indeed again.
It's like this other show.
Can I even say why I like our name?
In this order, if this was inside the NBA, it would be,
Shaq, Ernie, Kenny, and Chuck.
Yeah.
Who are those people, Jerry?
You're the mediator.
Yeah, that's fine.
You're the one that keeps the thing for.
You're the biggest legend of the wall.
Yeah, I like them all.
I don't know why I'm bitching.
I'm cool with you, Ernie.
Hey, but we've had an insane last couple weeks.
So this podcast will be full.
Jared, I didn't mean to cut you off.
I wasn't saying anything.
No, but before we introed.
Oh, no, you're good.
You got your 15 grand from Vegas.
Yeah, I mean, I don't have that much to say about it.
What did you buy, though?
What was the purchases?
I'm saving it.
Flex them.
Go ahead.
I'm saving all of it except for like four or five hundred bucks.
Got some new kicks.
That's the only thing.
I was telling them they know this.
If you've seen it, I don't know why you would have seen my shoes and vlogs in our content.
If you go back in our content, I've had shitty sneakers for like, I haven't bought sneakers in like five years probably.
I just had these new balances.
Yeah, we'll put the photo right here.
I never got to say that over here.
Has kicks.
I had these two pairs of one Nike and one new bounce and they were falling apart like disgusting.
So then I made the decision before I went to Vegas.
I was like, I need to be an adult and just buy some new shoes.
And then I got some money.
I said, you know what?
I'm going to buy those shoes.
You got three new pair.
You got three new pair.
Go ahead.
No, go ahead.
I was going to say I was going to like pivot a little bit.
Damn.
No, I wasn't going to talk.
I was going to stop talking about your shoes and say like, is there anything?
that won't be in the vlog that you want to talk about,
like the kind of like from the perspective.
No, it was just so funny.
I was like, oh, you go ahead.
You're like, yeah, it's going to change the subject.
That's all me.
Anything that won't be in the vlog that I want to talk about from the trip?
Yeah, just kind of like your view of it all.
Taylor's room is crazy.
It was your first time seeing the big suite.
Like, yeah, I mean, all the different influencers that you watch.
I see you over there on your laptop or computer watching.
Steve will do it.
You got to meet.
What a crazy.
Timmy bounce back.
Yeah, Timmy bounce.
I don't even know
Michael Chandler
Yeah Michael Chandler
He's the man
I'm trying to think of nice things to say
That Timmy bounced back guy
I don't think this is bad to say
He annoyed me
The loud dude that if you've seen
Like in the Steve will do it videos
The guy's just like yelling and stuff
Hope he doesn't take this personal
I found it pretty obnoxious
Yeah constructive criticism
I think that's okay to say
He was a nice enough guy
I think anyone that's belligerently drunk
Right
Is kind of annoying
I've been annoying
In that scenario
Oh, that's the only bad thing I could say by any of them.
Steve will do it.
I said, like, one word to him.
I think I just said, like, big fan.
You got Dap on camera.
That's two words.
Really?
Yeah.
From Steve?
I cut it out on my end, but I was going to say, I didn't even remember that.
Because the camera went off.
He's so much shorter in real life.
Yeah.
He's like a little bulldog.
He's like all buff and, like, tiny.
And then Bradley Martin is massive in person.
Yeah.
Like, unit.
I mean, you would expect that, but like, massive.
No, it was sick.
I'm trying to think of something that would.
was not in the vlog.
How was it just hanging with Taylor in the room?
Like I thought like, did you all like stay apart in the big massive room where you like
conjoined what you would like.
You all say, do you see him naked or no?
I mean, damn near.
We, it was like what you would imagine like if you like made like a like a parody of like
what you would think we did.
We did everything together.
Like we would get in the steam room together.
We would take our ice bath like not together but like back to back.
You got in the ice bath?
Yeah.
We did ever like.
Was that your first time?
Yeah.
I said, I told Taylor I was like, I'm not going to say.
no to anything.
Like, we're just going to do everything.
We did the ice bath.
We did the state.
It was so fun.
Any place he wanted to eat,
I'm a picky eater.
And I was like,
we're eating like wherever.
Hang on.
What did you think of the ice bath?
I cannot picture you in the ice club.
I can just imagine you like bitching a moment about it.
Dude,
I got to give myself credit.
I think I did.
I did like,
I know this isn't long.
Shout out me.
I know this isn't long.
I think I did.
We didn't time it.
But if I had to guess like 15 seconds.
I was thinking it was going to be one.
You were going to say like two minutes.
I thought that wasn't that bad.
You're supposed to be in there for 15 seconds.
I thought most people like dip in there.
Oh my God.
Like I stayed in it for a second and like held it.
No, you got to be in there for like two minutes, two or three minutes.
Not to hide myself.
I was in there for 15 seconds.
I thought it was pretty good.
For someone like me that is not into that stuff and it's straight out of the steam room.
Dude, in the steam room, have you all done it?
Oh, true.
You can't breathe.
Dude.
So that's the thing.
I love the feeling of the heat because I like saunas.
But the breathing thing.
It's like we sat in there whatever Taylor's full time was like, yeah, 10 or 15 minutes or whatever.
Dude, and it was like, I was like, dude, I can, I feel like I'm breathing in like fiery water, which I guess it is what you're breathing in.
I would last 15 seconds in the steam room.
You don't like steam rooms?
I hate it.
You didn't do the steam room when we were out there that one time?
No, I only do the sauna, cold tub, hot tub.
So does feel good though.
The steam room, was it in?
His bathroom.
Oh, okay, because when we went that one time, we went down to like the spa area.
We did one in the spa too.
Can I be really dumb for a second?
how different is the steam room from the sauna?
You try to kill yourself in the steam room.
It's actually a lot different.
I did not know.
Have you done a steam room?
I've done neither.
Okay, so sauna is, I would say dry heat,
steam room is steam.
Wet heat.
I would have never, like, I didn't know what steam room was.
You sweat a lot more in a steam room.
I'll be in there spraying the hose the whole time.
And you don't even know what steam and what sweat.
Like after like two minutes in there, you're just drenched.
But it's same vibe.
You just go in there to get hot.
Yeah, you just go in there to sweat.
Like the one time clean out the body
When I went to the sauna
There the one time like I would have like my
Chains on and the one like they're fine
How many you had two three?
No I think I only had one
I word like Cuban oh it was a two yeah
My chains but then uh
When you go in the steam room like I was sitting there like this and I lean back and like
burned my yes dude
Me into one funny little antidote like this would be way funny if it was filmed
It probably won't like come across
when I just say it, but it's like a steam room's not that big and Taylor's big. Yeah. So we're kind of
of just squeezed in and there's a tiny little bench that we're both just like half a cheek on.
Like just like squeezed up on it and like I guess the steam is coming out of this thing in the
corner and we keep just taking turns having to sit by it because like Taylor would be sitting by me back
ah, ah, like dude, we need to switch and then we just keep doing that for like 10 minutes.
And then, but dude, then the ice bath is so much worse because you were at the hottest your body
has ever been. And then you get in that and that's when skin starts itching.
I literally like, I don't even know how I did this.
I like had my feet up on the sides of the bath and my arms.
Because I told Taylor, I was like, I just got to drop in.
Like, I can't dip in.
So I went like this.
Like cannonballed in that thing.
Dude, I floated above it.
And then I just went like that and just dropped down into it.
I wish I had a video.
Yeah, dude, Taylor was like, anytime he got in it, Red Rock fills that thing up.
Yeah, yeah.
So if he puts his foot in it, that thing just goes over.
So, like, he was like, we're going to make a mess.
Yeah.
We're having fun.
We're making a mess.
And, yeah, so then I like cannonballed in it, sat in it for like, I would,
say maybe a solid 15 and then got out 15 seconds in that one you could equate to like one minute
really i maybe did like a minute in that one yeah i was like holy it's the first time i've ever done that
and it was it wasn't like as unbearable as i thought but it was like the shock from the heat
to the cold was just you didn't you didn't reach the unbearable part you were still in shock
yeah and once you're in there for a long time it starts to get up i always start hurting i was
being such a pussy i was telling taylor i was like dude what if i pass out like will you
get me out like
when you do CPR
because when you're in that steam room
I'm thinking like emergency
like right
like as I'm breathing that scene
like you're naked
he's naked
I mean we're both just
in our underwear
I'll put the video on the screen
I have a video of like
when I got out of the bath
and he hopped in
it's just like the gayest video ever
it's just us both in our underwear
and I'm just like this
because earlier you said he was big
what do you mean by that
just tall
length
where it's overall
great trip though
it was
like a vacation.
Like it was truly,
like I was telling McKenzie,
I was like,
this just feels like the best vacation ever.
And I don't even like,
I mean,
I've only been to Vegas once as a kid,
but Vegas is not appealing to me.
Like,
I think we were talking about this.
Like,
I would never go to vacation,
or like on a vacation of Vegas,
but.
Right.
I'd go on a vacation to Red Rock.
Like,
not even the casino part.
They just,
it's like a resort.
We gotta get cooped there.
Yeah.
Dude.
No, dude,
I said like three times during the trip.
I was like,
dude,
I was like,
you got to find a way for Coop to come to this,
if like someone else comes to film too like if you just come for vibes there was like specific
scenarios where I was like coop would be so perfect in this scenario was he buying it oh yeah he was
like yeah coop would be killing in this like it was like it was just like I forgot what it even was
times we're at the table with like random people I was like dude coop would be such a vibe right now at
this table would be so funny do you want to take jack spotters that jacks to own it's just kind of like a
one off little I kind of want to like keep the bit up that will started but no like I was telling
you like it's such a fantasy like I said this on Boston it's such a fantasy land that it's like
when you're there I even had to keep reminding myself I'm like this is not a realistic life right
like I don't I wouldn't even want to ever get used to an inkling of that yeah because once you do
I feel like real life would seem so depressing because it's like the whole time you're I'm getting
annoyed like by day two I'm annoyed that my iPad isn't uh changing the lights in the right
setting that I want like that bad I'm like okay I got a one of my two toilets and my
room the bidet didn't work and I was like oh my god
I'm like I got to use the bidet yeah
first time bidet guy or you are now
I think they've been overhyped
that might be controversial said first time ever using one
it was fine did you jump I refuse to use it
people always say that they're like once you use one
like you will instantly install one in your house I did not
it was fine like it was okay right I used it when I was there but like I did
not get this effect that like you're like I can wipe myself
yeah maybe like people just say that when they're sponsored by bidetes or something
You still got to clean up and stuff.
Yeah, I didn't use it as replacement.
I just used it as like pleasure.
Yeah, that's, I don't know if I'll ever use it.
Yeah, I'm not going to use one of those.
I mean, it's an interesting feeling, I guess, getting water spread up your asshole, but.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then the dryer settings, like, Loki, kind of nice.
I feel the dryer on your ball.
Yeah.
It just goes.
When the dryer is slowly turning into liking the day.
No, like, I like, I like it.
You know what I mean?
It's not a game change.
If you got like, if you got like poopy water on your butt, like after it shoots up in the dryer, doesn't it just like kind of?
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, wouldn't the poop just get kind of like crusty on you?
That's what probably.
I wiped completely.
And then I was like, I'm just going to try this thing out.
Oh, so you cleaned up and then water.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No replacement.
Is there anything worse than a like an airport bathroom toilet that's full of water and you know you're about to drop a bomb?
And it drops and you just feel it all over your cheeks.
And I'm like, dude, because you're like, there's international germs on your asshole.
International germs and the amount of just muck that I put into the water that splash back up onto me is not.
It should be illegal.
I got a cheat code for you.
There's a way to make that not happen.
Put toilet paper in it.
If you flush and time the poop with the flesh.
No, if you know like you're about to make some muck, you put some toilet paper in there, like kind of get that soft light.
Lending pad.
Then it's a little landing pad.
You don't have to worry about that splashing up on your booty.
That's a, hey, we need, that could be a segment.
That's a great look.
Like, yeah, poop, poop packs.
would be a great segment.
But you know how when you see it?
I don't know how many there are, but like, I'm sure
we could think so.
We could get creative.
We could ask guests.
Like, what's your poo pack when you're at the airport?
What's your poop pack in general?
What's your poo pack?
Do you all lay toilet paper down around now?
I don't care about my cheeks that much.
I used to do it when I was a kid because my parents were like, that's disgusting.
But then I'll like, I'll wipe it down to make sure there's nothing there.
Yeah.
I do that.
I'll grab toilet paper and like wipe it down.
I'm with, yeah, I'm with you all in that.
Sometimes if it's just like one splash, like one drop, I, I,
will kind of be like,
I don't know about that.
But all I'm doing is,
it's never ideal.
I'm boosting my immune system.
True.
When I put myself in those situations.
I mean,
I've been,
it's way too many baseball tournaments
when I was a kid
and like in a porta potty
and you're all sweating
and you decide to line up
the toilet paper on
and then it's just stuck to you.
You just like can't get it off.
You just feel even dirty.
Porta Pondies are different.
That's a different beast.
Yeah, go and pooping the porta potty.
I'll never go.
I'll never go poop in a porto potty.
That's war.
Is an airport bathroom
the most green-lit place
to just,
just let farts go.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like,
outside of your...
Like, I'm saying
like public bathrooms
like people try to like hold it in.
I'm not talking about me.
I'm talking about everyone else.
Just lets it rip in there.
Like,
you walk in there.
It speaks for the people.
Like,
no,
I'm saying what I'm hearing.
Yeah.
You,
you walk in there and it's like,
it seems like everybody is just fighting for their life.
It's like,
it's always one dude moaning like,
yeah.
It's so weird.
It's probably the same guy, too.
Like,
no matter of it.
Like, dude.
You're recurrent character and
dude. It's so true. It's like no matter what time of day your flight is.
Right. Somebody's in there. Your gate could be completely in deep with the bathroom is full of dudes.
It's so true. And it's that same pungent smell no matter if it's a shitty or a nice airport.
It's just the loudest most echoey tooth. Shadow Realm. But yeah. So Vegas was sick. And then obviously
the week we're leading up to that. Oh yeah. Tideon you, Taylor Swift.
I think, are you the only one here that talked to Taylor?
Did any of?
I briefly spoke with her.
I just, I mean, I said hi.
Yeah, I wouldn't consider it a conversation.
It was Travis like, oh, this one of the busing guys, oh, good to meet you.
Travis loves the show.
And then kept going.
Yeah.
I mean, we had a conversation, but it was, like, I kept joking to everyone.
Everyone here has heard it.
But it was, it was like the most, like, nothing conversation you could have.
It was like me and Mitch is, me and Mitch is, wait, me and Mitch is.
Wait.
Me and Mitch
Our boy foul.
That's what I was trying to say.
I was trying to say Mitch's boy and my boy's foul.
We were standing there like just awkwardly 10 feet away from Taylor and Travis.
Jesus.
Yep.
Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers.
And guess what?
We have some big news.
What's the news?
Huge news.
We created our own podcast called,
Hey Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of.
We're starting a trend.
But this one's extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, hey Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my life.
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Just staring at them
And me and Fal both were like
I don't even really care if we walk up to them
Like this is just so cool seeing them
Like just this moment just to remember
That like we're looking at Taylor Swift like 10 feet
It just was so weird
just to tell people about.
And then at one point, Travis, like, kind of looked over at us.
And then...
Hit him with a...
I think I literally hit him with, like, that.
And then he saw I had a busting hat on.
So he acted like he remembered me.
There's no way he did.
But Travis, the best.
No, I'm not saying anything about him.
I just mean I had no impression on him.
Like, you all talked to him.
But even, but the fact that he gives you the nod and like everything, it's...
He acted like he knew me because...
And I walked over and then he introduced me to Taylor and was like,
oh, this is one of Will and Taylor's guys.
And then he just turns to talk to...
to someone else.
You're just like,
Taylor.
She's like,
Taylor Swift and foul.
She's just like,
oh, it's so nice to meet you.
And then she immediately introduces me to two
her best friends.
I'm trying to put you on.
Yeah, she was like,
oh, this is so and so my best friend
from wherever and this is so and so
like her friend or my other friend or whatever.
I said, oh, that's cool.
And then we all just kind of like,
end of that conversation.
And I'm like, so what are y'all doing in Nashville?
Like the most boring ass.
And she's like, whatever,
Trave?
Like, we know we're here for Titan in you.
I'm like, oh, yeah, I knew that.
that everyone in the world knows what you're doing.
Her friend was Abigail, and I'm assuming it's Abigail from the song, 15.
I'm seeing that all over TikTok.
That's pretty cool.
That has to be her, right?
I don't even know what song you're talking about, but that's still kind of cool.
Everyone on Twitter and TikTok was talking about how big of a deal it was that her best friend was there.
Yeah.
And I guess I met her, I'm assuming.
But Abigail gave everything to the boy.
Well, I forget the lyrics.
Yeah.
There's some big, great bar in that song, 15.
I wanted to talk to her so bad strictly because.
because she went to middle school around me.
And that would have been, I'm like,
so you went to why I'm missing for like a year or two?
Oh, yeah, that's crazy.
I grew up right there too.
You know,
you would have something.
You would have something to talk about.
No, I know.
And like, I would have pulled a mat and just been like,
oh, you went to Henderson?
I'm going to Hendersonville.
Dude, I had nothing to say.
It was like one of those just like nervous mouth like spills
or whatever you call it of just nothingness.
Were you bummed that you left before she performed
or were you good you're okay with your decision you got your fix to be completely honest i did not care i mean
like she's cool i'm not like a fan of her it was more like my sister's the biggest fan right and i just
wanted to be able to tell her like yeah if i either saw her live or met either one so like they didn't
really matter yeah i mean i wasn't like i don't know how you felt but i wasn't the like the biggest
taylor swift fan yeah just seeing her well one seeing her just around interact with everybody and
two seeing her come out and everybody like go crazy and then actually hearing her voice
The videos were really good.
She sounds so good in person.
It was like, wow, this is kind of like, this is like a cool thing, not because of like I'm a fan of her,
but like this is just cool that she's willing to do this when she has no reason to.
I wish she would have played something off of the album, Red, though.
Red would could have been the soundtrack of my life when it came out.
What is it about?
A lot of things.
I think her and Jake Gyllenhaal's breakup at one point.
Jake G.
So, so many, but just so many good songs that I have no reason to relate to them.
I don't relate to them, but she does such a good job of painting the picture that you feel like you're in the story.
I mean, she knows like play the hits.
Right.
I mean, but she's got so many.
How do you even pick of them?
I know.
She played Shake it off and...
Just shake it off.
But she made it like a bit of performance.
Obviously, it feels like cool because you're seeing like a famous person, but like does it almost feel like...
Because like she's like so big and has been so big.
Like, it almost feels like...
I mean, I'm kind of speaking for you all that you're like living through history when you're
like around her.
No,
she's like,
yeah.
It doesn't even feel like,
like,
she's like,
bigger than like,
I'm not gonna,
she's not like Michael Jackson,
but I'm saying,
she's like that caliber.
That's what I'm saying.
Third most followed person
on Instagram or fourth.
Like she's so big that like when you're around her,
it's not like when you're around like,
right.
Right.
Someone else.
It's not like you're around like,
Trey McBride or something like that.
Yeah.
But like,
fucking love Trem of Brad.
This is a,
this is she like,
she like she just has like I was saying like an aura about her that like you,
you know Taylor Swift.
you know her concerts and how expensive those tickets are and like how much like her swift the swifties like
ride or die for and like just how big she is and then it's like you see her it's like like you're like
like you almost feel like oh my god she's a real person yeah you're a human yeah it almost was
the same feeling when trump walked in the room we did the interview it's like she'd like you'd like
you did you did dude my side note my favorite part uh of that clip from the vlog because i've
it doesn't matter on the pod like i've been looking at that footage for this edit thing i'm making
but you and he says that you laugh so hard
like everyone's like holding it together
and he's like where would you like me to sit
and you're like
I'm a liability behind the camera sometimes
when things are happening
it's so funny listening to you behind the camera
I'll be laughing too much
it makes it better
it's so funny
but Taylor Swift
something she does not have
the security team I was shocked
to see some of the staturedors of the guys
clearly they're doing a good job
but if we got the biggest star in the world
I'm expecting
the biggest guy
like,
like,
messy security.
Yeah,
like messy security.
Shout out
Demetrius too.
He's the man.
We need Demetrius
on the back of the bus
podcast.
Because he knows about
all of the boys in the back.
Yeah.
Not that way.
Is he the dude
that was with him?
Yeah.
Oh,
that's cool.
He lives like right by Sherma and you now.
Oh, he does?
Really?
Yeah.
Oh,
I did not know that.
Yeah.
I mean,
obviously he's gone on the bus.
I did not know that.
That's crazy.
But he's random.
But he's the man.
But yeah,
going back to what you were saying like there his her security was the smallest dude in the
entire room right that's funny like granted throw hands up granted like he's dropping me for sure
granted all of us were like some of the smaller people in the room too because we're surrounded by
tight ends right but like her security guy was like this shorter dude and did i'll tell you he did not
play any games yeah oh was she was he like following her around
Like he was always like at her back.
Yep, I know exactly.
You're talking about.
Like I was like trying to squeeze through.
He was he was dialed.
I was trying to squeeze through the one time with my camera and like there's two like massive tight ends.
And then it's the security guard and Taylor.
And I'm like, mind if I just like through here.
Yote.
He literally just looks over his shoulder and then just like.
And I had them like, okay, come on help me out guy.
I'm literally, I got my camera.
I'm trying to try to do my job here.
Dude, I bet when she's on tour though, she's got like the damn Navy SEALs well.
Yeah.
be way different yeah it was a another positive of that week was this was sitting in brooks first time
hanging out with each other solo and we got back home sitting first thing she said to me brook is so easy
to hang out with like we need to start hanging out with her more brooks and brooks are the exact same thing
she was like we need to like we got to do stuff more stuff with them and like etl right like mackenzie
yeah thank you uh but like just hanging out with the the guys like the guys that have girlfriends
and stuff.
Right.
I think,
like we need,
we need to make that happen.
We got to,
we got to make a whole,
a whole back of the bus pod
girlfriend hang out.
Yeah.
Right.
Coup.
Right.
We'll just leave you off
secret coding with that one.
Read him between the lines.
Are we going to expand on that a little bit more?
It's up to Coupe.
I have a girlfriend,
guys.
That's what,
that's what they want me to say.
And I'll say,
let you go.
Let's go.
Because you use the dog line.
I did not use.
Or actually tell the people the dog line first.
No, because I like don't even use that.
Like, that was a one-time joke.
I mean, I'll tell.
You ask him, do you have a dog?
They said no.
You said, do you want one?
They say, yes.
They said, do you want another one?
I never used it.
Just on hand.
It's like a hint.
Yeah, I never used it anywhere.
But I don't get it.
Do you want one?
Do you want another one?
Yeah, because like, you're a dog.
Yeah, you're a dog.
Jared's not a dog, so he wouldn't understand.
Jared's just a demon.
You want a cat?
Yeah.
I'm a pussy.
But how long has it been?
Officially like two weeks.
Okay.
We've been talking, seen each other for like a month and a half.
Okay.
All the other question I'll ask on it.
Where was the first date?
Yeah, that's a good question.
First date was at Penn's Mechanical.
Oh, great.
Which is so fun.
It's such a fun.
McKenzie was just hyping up that place.
She went with her family this past weekend.
It was fun.
And side note, it was the night the stars got eliminated.
and I like kept looking up at the screen
and the stars were getting destroyed
they pulled their goalie
and I was like
it's like I promise like I don't care about that game
but like I did
like I was like watching
I was like yeah
shit
she's like it's fine
and that's your team
I'm like nah not anymore
they stink
it was good time
that is
that pins mechanicals great move
I do
hate
and the vibe is awesome
like I love all the stuff they have
but the actual bowling
I can't stand
We didn't do bowling.
Yeah.
Didn't do bowling, but like they have like...
Did you do like the pong basketball?
So, she didn't do that.
Like ski ball?
Did the slide?
Did the slide?
Ski ball.
Get the slide together.
Yeah.
Not at the same time.
Some kids going on the slide.
We're like, all right, come on.
It's our turn.
Trying to impress you all to move.
Yeah.
I mean, we did pinball.
Jenga.
They had like Jenga.
Did you just wax her and everything?
Yeah.
Did you like to compare it?
No, dude, I lost in Jenga because I thought the table was like
bolted in the ground.
And this is like best two out of three.
It was like game three.
And I like went to like fucking lean on the table and it just like all collapsed.
Like the table.
Wasn't even because of a piece.
Yeah.
Like I choked.
That's kind of like a cute little.
She's like, oh, you do like the stars.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Damn it.
But no, that's nice.
All my aura points gone.
We hit a, I don't know the word for five, but five of us in the back have, well, six actually.
Jack's the only one.
I told you.
Can I pitch group top golf?
I want to go to top golf
That would be fun
That would be a good one
I told y'all
I've been wanting to host
A backyard brunch so bad
I'm just
I'm gonna keep throwing that out there
I want all the boys and all the
Ladies over
Yeah
Mimosis
Breakfast
I really wish you wouldn't say that
Toast
Mimosis eggs bacon
What about what about the week
The UFC is here
July 12th
Yeah I'm with it
All right
Because we'll be free that
That morning
I should be
Yeah, let's do it.
Everyone come to my house, including you guys out there.
My address is, but yeah, we have yet to do that as a group, which is crazy.
Going back to the top golf thing, have you, have you seen that stuff in Texas where it's like top golf but baseball?
Yes.
Yes, and that looks sick.
I want to do that so.
That's really cool.
Those are relatively newer.
Those are, yeah.
Or like we could hit a puttchat or puttack.
Yeah, I've heard puttack is fun, but I also heard it's a little bit of a.
scam.
It is for a shit.
And Putschax like nine holes too.
Yeah.
And it's like expensive too.
And you got to like wait in line.
Matt says thumbs down.
Thumbs down.
Dude I,
you know who I met at Putshack in Nashville?
Brian Cranston.
Really?
Oh, did you go there for that signing?
Dude, I,
this is like you just met him.
You went to a thing.
Oh, well, I didn't.
I thought that kind of was implied that I didn't just run into him.
I had chased him down for four bars that they went to.
And I finally.
caught him my punchback. I think Jack did the same thing.
Oh yeah, that's right. Dude, I loves him. Now I don't work at this place anymore. I can say this.
I said I was sick. I saw that Brian Cranston and Aaron Paul were in town and Breaking Bad is my Taylor Swift.
Like it is, I love Breaking Bad. If I could pick one thing to watch for the rest of my life, it'd be Breaking Bad over social network, which is a big thing to say for me.
That's actually insane that you just said that. I forget whose list it was, but it was a well-renowned person in the movie space.
I think I know what you're talking about
And he had social network on his top 10 movies of all time
There's some director that said
The Social Network is the best movie
That's been made in the last like 20 years or something like that
Which I don't even know
I mean it's my favorite movie
I don't think that's like
A lot of people think that's like
A really great
Like top tier movie
Which it is
Anyway I called in sick
Like when I saw they were in town
I literally just told my boss
I was like I'm so sick
I gotta go home
So then I left work
Saw what bar they were at
This is so lame
I like went to the
It was like a rooftop hotel.
I Uber there, go to the top, and they're like, they're going to be here in five minutes.
Like, y'all, everyone has to buy a drink.
Were you solo?
Yes.
You have to buy a drink out of their, like, Mezcal or whatever.
I pay like $30 for this stupid drink, wait around about 20 minutes.
I'm like, where are they?
And someone's like, they left like an hour ago.
So the bar just scammed us.
So then I leave that bar.
I keep checking their stories.
I go to this other bar.
I keep missing about like a minute.
So then I found this, like, schedule on Facebook.
That's like they are going to end the night at Putschack.
So then I just,
I rode a lime scooter across town to this Putschak and just waited by the front door.
And everyone else was in the Mingree area that had already closed.
Like that was full.
And I was just waiting by the front door just like kind of drunk because I had to like buy drinks at each of these places.
Six days.
It was going crazy.
Just like standing here like this.
And then Brian Kranson and Aaron Paul just like walk in just like me.
Dude, yeah.
You can tell I'm like drunk in it.
And it's I didn't get to talk to.
He did the eyes.
Yeah.
It's a crazy picture.
I didn't get to meet Aaron Paul because he kept,
because I was trying to get Brian.
And he was super nice.
He talked with me for like,
probably like 20 seconds,
which is really nice,
like when he's not even trying to stop there.
Like he stopped him.
He was like,
talk for a second.
And it was like a Taylor Swift kind of conversation.
I was just like,
I fucking love you,
but what y'all doing here?
Yeah.
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
I just called in sick.
Come see y'all.
I just,
I'm about to lose my job because I wanted to say hi to you.
Dude,
what,
um,
I know we talked about
We were talking about being drunk
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What's the news?
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We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
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We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts
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But this one's extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name,
Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about
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Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it
one of the early names of our band
before Jonas Brothers.
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast
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we've said coop story yep and we were talking about timby bounced back and this made me think of it
not that it was near as bad as timmy bounced back but one of my favorite memories of jared which he
hates oh yeah at mitch's house oh man
When Mitch had a little party,
I found out the type of drunk that Jared is.
And it is the best.
I was going to say,
I'm not embarrassed by it.
Right.
It's the best kind of drunk.
Yeah,
I was talking about when he pulled us aside.
Yeah.
We're actually in this formation,
how we're in right now.
And all of a sudden,
Cooper and I feel Jared's left and right arm.
Gee was in front.
We feel Jared's left and right arm around us.
He's like,
man,
I just want to let y'all know.
No,
I'm not going to be that guy at a party
that says that he loves his boys right now.
It was like a couple months into work in there
And it was like right when I felt like
We like had become friends
And then we're like the first time
I don't think y'all were drunk
But I was hammered
I was like I just
I'm not gonna say I love you guys
Dude and
A side piece of that is that
I like told sit in some like hammered
Like told sit in his wife this long story
And then like
Good story though
Yeah like I don't want to say this story
I just remembered what it was
And it was like a couple months later
At a friend's giving
I see sitting and now I'm sober
And I was like hey like
I started telling her the story.
She's like,
yeah,
you told me this whole thing
with all these details.
And I was like,
shoot.
That was my,
my buddy still talk about that night
because I think,
were you the only one
that came out with us?
Yes.
Sherm dropped out of,
yeah.
And everyone loved Sherm.
That's what I was going to say.
Yes.
The Uber Sherm and like just the,
there was like 10 people in the car.
I have so many videos from that car.
Video or volume on max.
And they're like,
dude,
that was the best Uber ride of all time.
Do they know it was Sherm?
I think.
Which is funny if they don't.
Your driver.
Shervin has arrived.
I mean, dude, they're so far in the back.
His car was so packed.
I wouldn't be shocked if no one knew who was driving them.
I feel like somebody was like, I don't even know who drove us here, but it was fun.
It was so funny.
Yeah, we got to have a kickback.
We got to get after it.
And then we should do like a little back, whoa, inside the bus, meet and greet.
Like, kickback with our fans.
Right.
For free?
Yeah.
Are you charging?
What?
Your place?
Yeah, my place.
We can just do it at my house.
Yeah.
In my backyard.
What else do we have?
How long have we've been going, Matt?
There's no, there's no, no, no, no, no, no.
Look at the, look at the-on-look-at-the-old.
Because that thing says it wrong.
Dude, I was about to say.
I thought you were just, we've told, like, 10 solid stories.
16 minutes.
16, I'm like, man, this podcasting might be hard.
I thought you were joking.
I was like, damn, man.
That's funny.
You've been talking shit for years.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think.
I don't know if anybody has it anymore from tight-end-news stuff.
Who's coming out next week?
I guess we can't really say.
But there's an interview that's coming out
that there will be maybe a lot of opinions on
in a very sports fashion.
It's not a controversial person at all.
But this interview was one of my favorite interviews.
I think Will and Taylor said something about it on.
Did they?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they did.
Because I remember hearing his name.
Yeah, we got a Georgia Bulldog is coming on and he gave one of the most electric interviews I think I've ever been a part of.
And if you don't anything for.
Yeah.
That was crazy.
That one I can't wait.
But the tight end, dude, I feel like tight end you, they show love to everybody.
And it starts from the top down.
Yeah.
George and Trave, obviously being cool.
And then all the way down to Foster Moreau.
Yeah.
Tighten you, I'm trying to think of my favorite events of the year.
It's up there.
Yeah.
like it could be number one and also like oh maybe bus and bowl though yeah true but also like
going back to like the tight new stuff like you you've obviously been doing it longer than i have but
even in the two year two three years that i've done it mike stottleman yeah he's a shout out of you mike
you're the man we need mike on the back of the yeah or on the inside the bus he says he watches and
that like the pictures he can take mike is making it made me an aura farmer last like that might be
one of the hardest pictures.
We laughed out of that.
I put Matt into Oredette
just by having that photo
in my camera.
He said he was pissed about
that you have a picture like that.
He also promised that he would put it on his story
and it never got on his story.
Hey,
don't even tell me.
He froze.
This is honestly,
like,
I don't know if our,
like,
Boston fans have seen it in our content,
like truly seen Matt yet.
Like,
they've seen the intern interviews.
But like,
this is like a punishment almost
for Matt having to sit back there
and not talk.
Like,
and not giving him a mic.
Like, we got plenty of mics.
We got a plethora of mics around here.
And I think it's hilarious that our intern Matt is just sitting back there.
But yeah, going back to like just all the people we've met through it.
Like Mike and then was it your boy, Asia, Asa?
Aza.
Beast, Beast videography.
I've only talked to him like once or twice, but he's the man.
And then like George's marketing guy.
Pete.
Pete.
Pete puts it all on without Pete Rask.
in Rubicon talent,
Tideon U.
X busing with the boys
never happens.
He truly goes above and beyond
for what reason,
I don't know,
because we'll never be able to repay him
for the access he gives us to those guys.
But it's awesome.
I got a question about Tidon,
you, because, like,
I didn't go last year.
But, like, so the last year,
like, because obviously it's getting bigger
every year, like,
ESPN was like Dan Robleski,
is how he said,
and then, like,
inside the NFL or whatever.
Lord Rutledge was there.
Yeah, like that,
their crew was there.
They did like a show there.
Like has it been, was it like that last year?
Like, because I feel like they just had way more like talent there to like,
yeah, you know what I mean?
Like, do interviews, do like content, do shows.
Because like, yeah.
Because I saw clips on like Twitter, like Arizona Cardinals post like the Tray McBride
Bride interview like an ESPN production like.
Dude, it's, I knew Tid and news big because like the NFL obviously posts about it.
But like seeing like the shows there and like the amount of production there like feels like
it's getting like way bigger every year.
It was the biggest one yet.
And I don't know how they're going to top it.
Greg Olson was talking after.
He's like, I mean, what do we talk to Taylor Swift?
We might have to scrap this.
Yeah, do we just have to start from zero?
Literally like, I would love to go to Sack Summit because Max Crosby and Cam Jordan.
Watching Max do the drills.
Just on like 110 percent.
But smooth.
Yeah.
And something that the people need to know about me and Max.
One, I love Max.
Yeah.
I think Max, hopefully he would say the same about me.
but I do owe him money.
Which is crazy.
Which is crazy because I made a bet with him that Victor Wimbunyama, his rookie year would not average over 20 points.
He averaged like 20.6 points a game.
Ever since then, he's been getting hurt, all these things.
And since then, Max has signed like two contracts as probably made $250 million, whatever it is.
He was the highest paid lineman for a second.
And this man, the last time I saw him in person, he said, you still owe me money.
I owed like $500.
I'm like, bro, you got like 200 mil in the bank right now.
And you're worried about my 500.
You worry about my 500.
So, but Max, I will pay you back whenever I see you.
I just haven't been in Vegas.
But it just shows Max, he's the same in every aspect of life.
He could be testing your loyalty.
He could just be seeing like.
For sure.
And I respect that.
As soon as you pay me, he might be like, no, bro.
I'm going to say, he may hand you.
I'm going to pay a meal.
He might double it and pass it to you.
I thought about like Venmo and him a dollar a day for the next 500 days.
That would be funny.
That would be crazy.
But it's so SAC Summit, like how tight in you is George Trave and Kidd, uh, Greg,
is Sack Summit just Max and Cam.
And Vaughn Miller.
Oh, that's so sad.
And it was this weekend, international fight week.
So, where was it?
Same week as they did in Vegas, right?
At UNLV.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think if we could get to that, obviously we got to keep going to Tid NU,
but it is going to be hard for Tid NU to top this year.
Yeah.
But I would love to hit Tide NU, Sack Summit.
And one year, also the O-Line.
Yeah.
What is that one?
Lane Johnson hosted it, but I forget what it's called.
Yeah, I feel like the O-line one would be cool as well,
just because you know, like, the offensive line room is always like the funniest room.
Right.
And just, like, the vibes of that one, granted, like, the tight-end vibes are through the roof.
Yeah.
But I feel like the offensive line one would be even funnier.
We need a wide receiver and DB one at the same time.
I don't be.
That would just be a destroying video.
I feel like, though, when it comes to, like, wide receivers and DBs,
they're, I don't know if I'd be out of turn saying this,
like they're more hesitant to put other wide receivers on game.
Yeah.
Whereas like tight ends and like D-Lyman, O-Lyman, they like,
they want to help each other out.
Right.
To help each other up.
Yeah, wide receivers are like, no, I like, I kind of got to do my thing.
Granted, like, I mean, I played wide receiver in college.
Like I wanted to help out my teammates, but like, obviously the NFL is a whole different level.
I see you, Jared just.
But like, I wouldn't like say, I wouldn't, like, say, I went to,
like a wide receiver camp for like and then there were guys from other teams like I wouldn't really
try and help him out so I wonder if that like I doubt that's the way how it is in the league but and like
especially with dbs too like right I don't know if they would really want to help each other out yeah
I mean I just I just love that old video with Antonio brown Santana moss chat Ocho Sinko and they're
all getting the working together I'm like imagine just a field full of that yeah and baggie short like
Mitch size shorts required for the workout yeah those personalities clashing would be
Funny.
Oh, dude.
It really would be a de-strowing video.
Yeah.
Shout out destroying.
Just mosses on top of mosses and stuff like that.
But yeah, that would be sick.
I think we're good.
Yeah, I just had nothing to add.
It was football talk.
Yeah.
I was enjoying you all.
You're a wide receiver?
Oh, yeah, my boy.
I got a boy that's a wide receiver.
Oh, really?
Rashad.
Yeah, my shot baby.
Everyone's not even a big deal, but we can move on.
He doesn't like when I bring him up.
But yeah, we, uh, we,
Are we good for this?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we have to change, because we got C-Indeed,
we have to change everything, like all of our social handles,
our YouTube channel name, logo.
Logo, all of that stuff.
Fucking everything.
We actually have to do that by tomorrow because it's...
Yeah.
I guess when you see this, it'll be changed.
And if it's not, like, let us know if it's not.
Inside the bus, I'll have to work on the social handles and the YouTube channel.
But just keep an eye out, I'm sure...
We'll probably put something on the busing page to say like, hey, this is what happened.
Kind of look here.
Let them know.
But yeah, get loud on the comments.
Inside the bus.
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