Bussin' With The Boys - Wheeler Walker Jr.

Episode Date: May 24, 2022

Recorded: April 18, 2022 | The legendary Wheeler Walker Jr. joins the boys on the pod this week to discuss a number of things, but mainly penis's and why country music sucks now. Intro (0:00) Interview starts (11:41) Only ugly people should be singing country music (14:20) D*ck talk (17:40) Asking fans to pre-cancel his album (22:40) Explanation for his song hating on FGL and other country stars (31:20) Decision to stop trying to please people in country music (40:30) University of Kentucky sports programs (51:30) Going on Ridiculousness & working with Rob Dyrdek (57:30) Story behind the song "God told me to f*ck you" (1:24:50) Craziest fan story (1:31:00) ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ----- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Chevy: Chevy Silverado - The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever. Cross Country Mortgage: Duke Cannon: Check out Duke Cannon at any Target or on DukeCannon.com and use code “Bussin” for 15% off your first order. Roman: Go to https://barstool.link/BussinRoman to get $15 off your first order of ED treatment if approvedFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's a great ad read. Thank you very much. This is an exciting episode, too. Why is it? Wheeler Walker Jr. He's a stud, dude. Maybe the most influential country artist of our generation. Yeah.

I would say that, right? He won't strike, trying to keep who out of the country out of Florida Georgia. Florida Georgia Lime? A lot of beef in this episode. A lot of beef. I think when we do that, dude, there will definitely be some beef cooking for sure. Some guys are going to come out of the woodwork. I'm going to get a few texts.

Some things are going to not go so well. Yeah. Some things are not going to go so well. I love the battle for the boys a little bit. Listen, if they want to come on and state their case, they're more than welcome to do so. A couple other things going on before we get into Willow Walker. You're wearing some fly shit right now, buddy.

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We use the mic if you're going to talk. Store.orgstorestort.com. Click the brands link. no slash. Is it slash bussum? You can go to the brands tab or you can do store. dot barstilsports.com slash busting with the boys. That's the one. That's the fucking one. That's the really nice work, Garrett.

And whenever we jump you, you guys are listening right now, the merch is out Tuesday at 10 a.m. Eastern. So if you're listening at 6 a.m. in the morning, Central time. Because you're ready. You just got to wait a few hours and it's going to be out. But this shit is out.

Dude, go get it while it's hot. Get it for your old man. And again, if you're a man yourself, tell your wife, tell your kids that this is what they need to get for you. And listen, I know we haven't talked about this at all. I just kind of came to my head. But if we sell out in 24 hours, maybe do something special for some of the people. Maybe do something special. We'll talk about it later.

But if we sell out a nice little deal for them. What are we going to do special? I don't know. But I feel like there might be a super special special. You give away if it sells out 24 hours. In 24 hours times, if this hat, this hoodie and that polo sold. Sell out. It was hard for me to find that E.

We got to do something special. What do you think? I'm excited. I think it's a good idea. I think it's a great idea. I think it's a good idea just to kind of put out there right now, right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Phenomenal.

We're talking way too fast. What's the deal? We're wired right now. We just had a phenomenal podcast. We won't say who the guest is. Yeah. We got a great podcast coming out that you guys are going to love with Wheeler Walker Jr. You can do the guest, the name of it is.

Yeah. We're Walker Jr. phenomenal. And I think we're just excited. Like, it's Monday. We're seeing each other again. Like, it's been a long weekend. It's really been become like that for us a little bit, huh?

Mm-hmm. work. A little bit of work. Which we did say we didn't want to happen with the pod, but yeah. But the way we've been working has been a lot of fun. We can't have been a lot of fun. We play a pig outside of the bus now. Oh, dude, this is the first pod since you've been back from New York. Right?

Is it? I think so, because we released Thursday. You guys came back Thursday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're right. You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. How was it? It was phenomenal. You guys who are listening, does in trivia, go to the YouTube channel.

I think the episodes are dropping. The one that I'm playing in is tonight on Tuesday. I know they dropped, they dropped yesterday, but they roll out, you get to see how the boy does. The boy puts on a little show. Do you really? I do, you know. I can't wait to share.

I called Will, I asked him. I said, hey, tell me what happened. He goes, I can't. You have to subscribe. Yeah, you got to watch it, man. Yeah. It's a cool show to Jeff Lowe. He does a great job with a dozen trivia,

all the live shows, the game show hosting. And then also, huge shout out to the yak. No free shout out to the YAC. But those vibes are fucking all time, dude. And I'm not down playing any of the other shows. I was on unnecessary roughness was a good time. The ones we went on, part of my take was a good time. Part of my take, son of a boy dad.

Son of a boy, dad. And KFC, yeah. Those are all great vibes. That was two weeks ago, though. And we did the yak there, and then you went back and did the yak again. But we didn't talk about us going there on Thursday. We did our intro for Chris Long. That's right.

Before we started the day. Because we were just starting our day there. Yeah. That's true. We didn't do all the intro stuff. No, y'all talked about y'all's trip. you didn't talk about your trip because Taylor it's all right.

There's people screaming at their screens right now or screaming into their headphones listening to us going, you guys have talked about this. Yeah. The fuck are you talking about. I already saying heard it. You're saying heard it to us. By the way, if you guys can go to part of my take,

tell them if anything information they have, you just type in, heard it in their comment section. They'll know. We've already gotten text from Big Cat. They know we're fucking infiltrating them. Yeah, Big Cat was, uh, there was almost some beef between you guys again. Oh, yeah. What was that?

Because he said his producer told him, but he said it's all good, though. Yeah. Remember? No. I know what you're talking about, but I don't remember the context. The context, that's what he was talking about. He didn't say what it actually was.

Oh, yeah. He said, I think we got beef again, but then he's like, never mind. It's all good. The producer was kind of telling me about it. Yeah. Oh, because this producer probably heard our episode. Yeah.

That makes a whole lot of sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes a whole lot of sense. It was a phenomenal time. Like, we got all the boys out there. Jack, Garrett, JP, they went out there. They spent a couple days with the bars school people, the front office people, the third floor people got to learn a little bit of

shit. Do you guys learn anything out there? Well, you guys, fair part. Maybe we should pass the mic around real quick. Jackie? Fair apart? I think just like- Pizza's fire out there. Oh, shit. Yeah, pizza was great. One of our good friends, shout out, no-frey shout-out, Justin Mancini. He worked up there in live events. But probably my favorite part was seeing we've been in these new meetings for the last couple

months with all the people at HQ, finally getting to meet them in person, like shake hands. You can see someone on a screen, but when you meet them in real life, it, you know, it really hones it in. So, yeah, meeting the people of there. Everyone was super nice. Garrett. Go ahead, Taylor. Oh, yeah, JP, go ahead. My favorite part.

Everything's some photos. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, go ahead, J.B. I got the floor. No. My favorite part, same thing as Jack, except I would like to also add I've enjoyed Garrett and I shared a hotel room.

Yeah? We only had one bed. Oh? I'll leave it at that. I'll leave it at that. Yeah. All right. Garrett, what did you learn on your field trip?

I learned that we have some fire merch coming out soon. Oh. Oh. Oh, good. We're getting them dialed in. It's just, just, hey, I'm going to have a band with us. Gang, this shit's about to be fine. Oh, shit.

I cannot wait, dude. I cannot wait. It's coming. It's going to be good. Oh, yeah. Oh, can't wait to show you those hats, bro. What's that? Oh, wait, the ones you sent me?

We got, yeah, we got it dialed in now. But the concept's not getting dialed in even more. It's tightening up. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't wait, dude. I cannot wait to see those. Wheeler Walker Jr., incredible guy, came on.

Listen, this man is serious about his business. He sits there. He owns it. He's hilarious, but that man's about the Benjamin's, that's for sure. Yeah, he's about that work. He's about that work. He is. He's kind of got, like, that vibe.

He's got the cowboy head. He's got, like, the old school, like, Waylon Jenny, Willie Nelson-type vibe to him. And it seems like he has, and I wish I could remember it. But it seems like he wears, like, your dad's old You know that cologne you used to get. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stetson.

Yeah, yeah. The one where it's got like, it's got like the, what was it called? Panther, Black Panther. What was the one from Angerman? Yeah. It's like a dark looking glass, flash thing. It's got the silver top and, oh, yeah, it could be brute. To where you kind of like.

Yeah, yeah. You put it on your wrist. A little bit. And then you do the neck rubs? Yeah. Who's the guy that everyone loves from Yellowstone? What's his name? Rip.

Rip. He looks like Rip if Rip sang songs about Dicks. That's exactly. He acts. That's how he had. That's it. 100%. He's got a stern, fatherly attitude.

Yeah. But he has outstanding music. Yeah, you guys are going to love the episode. I think the episode is going to be incredible. You guys enjoy. We're 11 minutes in. We're going to hit you with a quick ad real quick. I know it's a quickie, but we're going to hit you with an ad real quick because,

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For a father out there. Ooh, girl dad hoodie, girl dad hats, and Nike polos. Can we say Nike polo? We can say Nike polo, right? And their Nike brand. Yeah, yeah. Nike brand. Oh, yeah.

Nike polos. Those three sell out. We're going to do some real special, dude. Real special. Dude, we got a, we got a stud on. Yeah. Number one. Absolutely.

Tell us about the birth of Wheeler Walker, Jr. Well, I moved to Nashville, like, what was it? My manager's year, like 20, 20, 20, something years ago, thinking I could make it in fucking country music. That was back in the old days when they actually had real country. I don't know if you guys country music fans? What, did you say 2020? No, 2000.

2000. I said it wrong. I like country music. Yeah, I would say. You're fan. Oh, Jamie Johnson. Yeah. Jamie Johnson is fucking awesome.

But back then they had like Allen. Jackson, George Strait, there was like actual country music before it turned to this fucking dog shit pop. You know, like Florida Georgia line bullshit, Kane Brown, all this fucking dog shit.

I'm laughing because Taylor's friends with one of the... Well, I'm sure you're all friends with you. No, it doesn't matter if I'm friends with them or not. I've loved to hear your opinion on them. Guess what? But I'll tell you, be nice guys and still be shitty at their job. Absolutely. I don't disagree with that at all. I don't disagree with that statement. I'm more of an 80s, 90s country guy myself.

There you go. Do you like, from as far as like contemporary music, do you like Midland? What do you think of them? My thing is... Or Eric Church or Staten. Midland, to me, is pretty boys in costumes, you know? Uh-huh. I just know, I don't need male models.

They're super handsome. I will give him that. Mark was an underwear model, too. I mean, that's what I'm saying. He's literally a model. Like, get them fucking models out of country music, you know? Really? Yeah.

So you want more Luke Combs looking motherfuckers? Exactly. Yeah, Stapleton, Luke Combs. What about Trace Atkins, though? He has the ultimate hit honk-and-tonk-but-donk-nong. And Trace is a tall guy, full-beard, long ponytail. Well, we can spend the whole time figuring out who the boot, talking about good-looking dudes? Well, I'm just trying to figure out...

I want to know where your line is as far as, like, too handsome versus someone handsome because Tim McGrath is a handsome bastard. Penny Chesney, he's some people's thing. He's got that tropical vibe. But he also used to play real country, you know. Yeah. When did he stop playing a real country? Right after...

I honestly, to be honest, I don't... To be honest, I don't know his new shit that much. I know. I know that he has the ability to play country. Right. And that the new fucking... The guy who sings the Applebee's song... What's that guy's name?

Yeah. What is his name? Walker Hayes. Like, that's not country. That's... What do you call it? Cultural appropriation. A dude, a white guy rapping along to, like,

some like Southern beats. Yeah. Or hip-hop beats that he puts a twang to. That ain't country music. Yeah. What about Eric Church? Eric Church? Eric Church?

It's good. But he's not that good looking. If we're back to the good look. I think he's fine looking. Right now, what we're doing in the first six minutes at this podcast is we're kind of finding the avenues that we're going to go down. And we're going to figure out. Our two main topics are country music and good looking dudes.

Yeah. I think that he nailed it on the head and we can do that for an hour. I think real. I'll talk about Mark for an entire podcast. He can take us. But here's a thing, man. I come from the era of, I just don't think you can make the kind of country I like,

I don't think you can make real country without being a little bit ugly, you know? Like I come, my heroes are Whalen, Willie, Billy Joe Shaver. Whalen was not an underwear model. Let's put it that way. Yeah, but either was Willie. They were all kind of like rough around the edges.

But you hear in the music is that. Even Cash. Like Cash was kind of. not that Johnny Cash wouldn't have been an underwear model. No, not at all. But it's like, you need that pain of like not getting late in high school

to make real country. There's a lot of, same hunt was it, wasn't he a college quarterback or something? Yeah, he played at UAB. Yeah, but like you don't need, I'm sick of fuck good, thank you, I'm sick of fucking studs in country music. No more studs.

I need pain, you know. I need real fucking pain. Sing about pain and I get it. I don't need to hear. about, you know, you know, Sam Hunt's singing about models he dumped, who gives a fuck,

shut the fuck up, dude. Like, why do I get him to relate to that? Look at me. He never dumped a model. Ain't no model talk to me. I don't, I see, I'm not looking at you, and I'm not thinking of myself, Jesus Christ, you know what I'm saying?

He got burnt into fire. You got a nice full beard? Trust me. This comes off, it ain't pretty. Really? I don't look like Sam Hunt. But you strike me as a guy that might have a hose.

in between those legs, though, at the same time. Listen, we're talking, now we're third topic, dicks. I'm doing okay. You're doing all right? What's all right? I'm like, I think I'm doing all right, but then I go in the shower on the football team, and I'm like, Jesus Christ, maybe I'm not doing all right.

Let's go back a step. I go into the shower on the football team, I'm fucked. But I'm saying, literally and financially. I'm just going to tell you're not doing all right. You don't think so? No. I would say we're doing all right. No, but now, we only saw our own,

we only saw our own boy until we got the college and the pros, and then it's like, okay. Yeah, but if you say, how you doing? I say, all right. So what, no, no. Yeah, with a shrug and look down. No, yeah, I'm good. All right.

The way he said, he's like, I'm interested. So what's it like going on and the, checking all the fucking NFL schlongs? They got some fucking wrenches in there, bro. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, like, some mean, real deal, do-walt power tools going on in there. You're saying, like, piece of shit. Do you try to cover it up? No. You stand next to the linemen.

The linemen. The linemen, they got small. Yeah, they got the, you know. Yeah, they got the gut, you know. The more body fat you have, the more the dick goes. I think it's like every 10 pounds overweight you are. You lose half an inch. I got to lose some weight.

I think that's a real fact. We might have to Google that. We might have to fact-check that because I really do believe that's real. Is there a doctor around? We can check it. Yeah. I was pre-med for a little bit in college. Yeah.

So I guess I can say that. So you know. Do you shower with your team after performances? Yeah, the band all showers and compares Dick. Yeah. No, we don't. I was going to say, who have you seen that you've, you've been impressed with.

I don't. I'm trying to think of you're not, you put me on the, my head. That's why, so far I dig this podcast because I can't remember

the last interview where they're like, tell me the most impressive dick you've seen. They didn't ask me that on CMT. It's an art. But there's not something that just flashes in your head, like fucking.

You were at CNN? Tommy. CMT, I was saying. Oh, I think he's at CNN. Yeah. I was like,

you strike me as liberal. So CNN would not, CNN would not ask me that question either. Yeah. But I have not been on CNN. You're about to say Tom? I don't remember what you're talking about. Tommy?

I was going to say Tommy Lee just because I was thinking about that shows out. That was a, he had a big shlong. Yeah, he's got a nice boy. But that thing's public. Yes, I'm saying. I'm just trying to think of a story. I think I'm just going to my go-to big dick. Yeah.

Got to click a little arsenal in the back there. I can never get a peek at Kenny Chesson. Because, you know, he would do rehab over at the tights facility. Yeah. And. I would assume. He doesn't have a big one. You couldn't really tell.

Zero ass. You know what I mean? Like he's got, you know, he's got small legs. Hamstrings the cat. Finally, I can talk about Kenny Chesney's ass. Yeah. Here it is. Doesn't have one.

We, uh... Is that Sinatra right there? This is Sinatra. Thank you for noticing. Cool. Because a lot of people say it's a young Elvis. I'm like, no. It's Sinatra's mugshot from like 36.

You a big Sinatra fan? I do like Sinatra. I really do. I'm not a huge, like, rat peck guy. But that's life, something stupid, my way. And the way he conducted himself. I'm a big fan of that. Okay.

Enough. Back to Kenny Chesney's. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, I couldn't really get a good look at his piece, but he would go in the cold tub. Wouldn't last very long at all in the cold tub. One of those like Dunkin, you think you're doing the cold tub. So what was going on?

You were at the same, working out of the same place? He's really good friends with our head trainer, Todd Torcelli. Shout out Todd. He's pretty ripped, right? Oh, yeah. He's working out hard. Yeah, but you're small, bro. Like how small?

Oh, like small? Like, what, a quarter of an inch? Soft? No, no, no. I'm talking. Oh, we're talking about penises. Okay. See, I didn't get a look.

I didn't get a look at his, you know, his thing, his wrench down low. I didn't get the peak of that up. That would be like it probably wouldn't be a wrench. You know those little tools where you put the, you squeeze and turn the nail in? Probably one of an Allen key, like a, what's called? Alan wrench. Is that what they're called? One of the short ones.

Alan Key and they're like the little. Or than a wrench. Yeah. Yeah. But he got in the cold tub and I'm just like, I mean slender man. Zero ass to him. Yeah. Yeah.

That probably means small. You would see him on all the, like, CD covers and stuff. And, you know, I was, like, in high school and stuff. And he's, like, a rip fucking country singer. And then you see him in person. He's a small cat. Yeah. He, like, hurt his knee.

The reason he was in there, he heard his knee at a concert or something like that and was getting rehab. Oh, boy, you're a country singer. What do you need to, I mean, what if you have a bad knee? He gives a fun. Does he dancing around? Yeah, I guess he, like, you know, did something and hurt his knee. Well, I got to, I got to start training over there.

Do you do any training for? I don't, but I saw myself with my shirt off the other night. I think it's about that time. Yeah. It's kind of good after it? Yeah. Yeah, but you got that skinny guy thing where it's like, you kind of probably could walk into any store and off the rack.

You can be like, hey, just give me that and you put that on. This is a wrangling shirt. You look good. This ring on shirt is, I don't want to brag, but this is from Amazon. Is it now? Yeah. You found that on Amazon. Yeah, I just keep buying them.

What size are you? I think a medium. I don't know. We got to talk to Bezos and double check. Hey, Bezos, and speaking of the whole liberal thing, you had asked your fans to pre-cancel you. Yeah, I would love to hear about that. So, I don't know if you, you guys,

I assume you know enough about my music. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That, um, I'm like, we put out an album with these song titles and these lyrics. I'm going to get fucking canceled. Let's just give him a fucking shot.

Let's, let's beat him to the punch. Cancelweiler.com. We'll give you the album for free. Burn it on social media. Let's get out in front of it. Cancel me before the... Because these people don't give a fuck what's actually on the record, you know?

So let's just give them a chance to cancel me without hearing it. You know? Join the move in pre-cancel Wheeler for us upcoming... You can pre-order an album one to people to pre-cancel me. Like, cancel me before they even hear it. Yeah. Just to prove my point that they don't give a fuck about them. How did it do?

We killed it. I love that. Yeah. I got pre-canceled. I got pre-canceled. I got canceled before I open my fucking mouth. What are... Let's...

Bring up the titles to his music. I mean, your classics. Fuck you bitch. Eating pussy kicking ass. Oh, that fuck you bitch killed it the rhyme. I wish I had you guys had come to the rhyme in the other night.

We didn't know you yet. We haven't had this report we have now. Yeah, I felt like we could have. I wish I'd known that you guys aren't this into dicks. I would have gotten you ticket. Don't you have one about like Aren't one of your songs called Like something about like sucking dick or something like that

No it's eating pussy kicking ass And at the end Thank you man He brings a girl home Pulls a skirt up Something was wrong Yeah And I'll get

What are you gonna do? Yeah What did you do? So what did you do? I sucked his dick And kicked his ass That's right What's funny is

Taylor actually put me on your music And this was back I thought you're about to say What's funny Is Taylor did that too Yeah I'd have But it was like, you put me on those songs. Like it was like a couple years ago.

I was say it was a while ago, right? There was a Tyler Merritt. He's from Wisconsin. Good old country boy. He would always play your music. We went on, who's the guy that sings cocaine cowboys? That's a great song. I forget it was, but that was one.

And we'd play your music before you had to practice. And just. Yeah, I heard a lot of NFL players are into Wheeler, but I haven't met him. You are Wheeler. But I'm saying, I'm talking. Yeah, you are. You're speaking in the third person. I mean, I haven't met the players.

Right. But the players are into yourself. So when I say, I'll talk about my music. I talk about him. The way Axel talks about Guns and Roses in Axel. Got you. Third person. Yeah.

Yeah. I respect that. The way Sinatra does. I love that. Hey, y'all are a fan of comp. You heard you all are a fan of comp? What's the deal? I do like the music, though.

So when you first get to Nashville, 2000, you look around and you say, I fucking hate all this. country music or it's solid at that point Well it was okay and then it started getting real poppy. At what point do you think it got too poppy when Taylor Swift jumped in? Do you think Taylor Swift was in country music?

I don't know if she was the reason because I don't consider her my competition. I was thinking more about like again, Florida Georgian line when they... A little baytown the band Perry. Yeah they started like adding and listen I love hip hop you know. I love Snoop. I love

Snoop. I love Dr. Dre. I love old school shit run dames. see when they started like trying to rap in country. Yeah. Nelly was on every fucking song. Nothing against Nellie, but it's like, it just sounds like shitty pop music. And I'm like, where'd the country go?

It's just, just because you're wearing a cowboy yet, don't mean it's country. If you're rapping with Nellie and you're a pussy, it ain't country music. Yeah. Nothing again, nothing against your buddies in Florida, Georgia line. No, no, no. So here's my question to you.

because I have issues with country music. I don't have issues to country music, but I can see what you're saying from the standpoint of becoming poppy. Let's say Florida Georgia Line didn't have the title of country music or Western or anything on them. Would they still be a shitty band to you?

But you're getting to my bigger issue is if they just called themselves pop, I probably wouldn't have an issue. You wouldn't have an issue at all, right? I don't know who the shitty pop artists are. I'm not in that world, but my thing is calling it country. and going to the CMAs and pretending that you're

have anything to do with Willie and Whelan and all this shit, you know? Yeah, but when Willie and Whelan and all of them were on, when they were first coming up, people thought they weren't country. These guys are outlaw guys. They don't belong in country music, that type of thing. So one argument,

and I'm not saying I disagree with you, but an argument. He disagrees with you. Go ahead. No, I don't know. He's making a good point. I think that as we progress through years and years and years, Like the pop will come.

And as pop gets more and more kind of flamboyant or whatever, whatever word you want to use, I think the highway men will start coming back and it'll get more twangy again. And it ebbs and flows. I hope you're right. Just like styles.

Like the way like to me, and I get in retrospect easier to say, but to me Whalen took country music and pushed it in a cool new direction. And I get what you're saying. That if you're there at the time, it was probably like, this is fucking crazy.

But to me, I felt like he took it more like into like a rock and roll attitude to fuck the man attitude where these guys had You guys have the Like a rebellious The new guys have a

Please the man attitude Whatever gets me on the charts attitude Where those guys were like more like I don't give a fuck if I'm on the radio or not Don't play it I don't give a fuck There's two issues with that statement Not issues but two things that come to mind One sorry for interrupting you

One is when you You say, Haggard? Well, I was talking about Waylon and William. Sorry, when you said Whalen was doing a rock and roll, he was pushing it more towards rock and roll. I'm sure there's other people that are looking in the rock and roll world that are like, what the fuck are these guys doing? And people in country going, what the fuck?

These guys are rock and roll bands. They're not, like you're saying, these guys are pop bands. These rockers are probably like, these guys are fucking country. They're not real country. They're not this. I agree with you. But at the end of the day, I don't really give a, fuck about genres. You know, good

music's good music. I fuck, like what is Skinner? Are they country or they rock? To me, they fuck rock. But they're a southern, just a kick-ass southern band. Yeah. You'd almost win tall-skinned rock. To me, there's two categories. There's good and bad. Whalen and Willie are good.

All your friends are bad. No, I think when you put it in that way, I think that makes a lot a whole lot more sense. But I think what you were saying is, like, it's true, though, it's like you still need the cats like you, the Willie, the Waylands, all that stuff, right? Gotta have them.

Those rebels are going to come back around and they'll have a way to do it. And that's the thing. Because the, the pleased man attitude is going to get big enough to where you need those motherfuckers to come back in it, right? That's the thing, too, is, I mean, I guess I should be thankful because those guys make me look like I invented this shit, which I didn't. You know, like the more that shit gets big, the more like, you know, I don't know, the Tyler Childers and that.

and Sturgles. That shit gets so big because it goes, we want the other shit, we want the real shit. So it probably in its own way helps that shit too. There's plenty of good music out there.

Coulter Wall. He's a young gun. Walter's fucking killer. You got the boy from Canada? Is he from Canada? He's from Canada, yeah, he's from Canada, right? Blacktop, that's a song. I love that song.

He's young. He's like 18 or, he's not even 21 yet, right? Can I give you another guy's name was really good. I would love to. A couple. I'll give you a couple. Ian No is killer. He's another Kentucky guy. You, uh, pull that up. Yeah. And, uh...

Oh, he's only 20... Okay. And the guy opened up for me the other night. He's younger than that. Man, it's fucking crazy. I was in him. Same though, and he really sounds like he's 45. Yeah. Ian, no. You know? Open up for me the other night, Joshua Ray Walker is really fucking good. Ian's probably my favorite out there right now.

Joshua Ray Walker, any relation there? No relation, no. Now that's the country guy, tell me. Yeah, he looks country. Yeah. He looks like he country and Western. He looks like he, Ben Hoffman. Yeah, for real.

R-I-P. Yeah. Man, I'm it. You guys missed that guy, huh? I hear you back there, Jack. So in your song Poon, in your song Poon, when you're shouting out

Florida Georgia Line and Sam Hunt and Kelsey Ballerini, all these people, is that kind of like a clout chase? Or you're just making good music? I was just trying to say, Fuck them. Yeah.

Or give me something. Well, no, I was, I wasn't trying, I was trying to think of a word that was like, I wanted to say, fuck you without saying, fuck you, I just came up with the word poon. I don't know what it means,

really. Yeah, pooing is pussy. Because I'm, I know what Pupoon means, but in the way I'm using it, I'm not saying Florida Georgian, give me your pussy. You're saying,

give me that pun and, you know. Give me that pussy. So the way I interpreted the song was, hey, give me your, give me your groupies. Let me get that. That's, that's not what I meant.

I was just thinking like, I was just thinking about I want to write a fuck you and I want what is kind of taboo in country, which is name and names. Naming all these people named. To me it was just a fuck you song. It was just, it felt like a good, a fun way to say fuck you without saying it. Because it's not clever to just say each one of these guys fuck you. Yeah. It felt like give me that poon just felt like a new way of saying fuck you.

It doesn't make sense. But to me in my head, which is mess. messed up. It made sense. Yeah. Fuck you. Give me that poon. Like, whatever you got, just give it to me.

Just a little beef, like creating some beef, a little beef track. I don't think anyone got any beef. I will say, Jake Owen reached out and said he appreciated the shout-out, which means...

Yeah, but Jake Owen sounds like a homie. And I know he's a handsome guy which really pisses you off, but everything I've heard about him is he's like a cool guy that everyone likes to hang out with. I don't know him that well, but he's always been nice to me.

And he was the only guy in the song was like who thought was cool to be in the song, which I appreciate it. Yeah, it is pretty funny. I'm not trying to make enemies, you know. Yeah. Yeah, but at the same time, like when you're in the business. Yeah, like if you're just in the business of entertainment, like, yeah, and also if you create something like that, you're going to hopefully get some traction by fucking.

But also it's kind of cool to kind of have fun with it too, you know. It's kind of like what rappers do, right? Like M&M and all those guys who like kind of create. Yeah, I think I was trying to bring some of that beef into country music, which they don't really have. going back and forth at each other. Don't you think there's some of these guys too fucking polite? Yeah, man. You know.

I think there goes for any genre of any music, though, there are people that kind of, but more country than anything else. Yeah, I'd say there's a lot more polite guys. Are you a fan of Morgan Wallin? I dig his music. Of what I've heard. I'm not going to lie and say, I could sing you every one of his tunes. But to me, he's somebody that's a little more than the mainstream,

but he also obviously has some good vocals. He couldn't be more mainstream, right? He didn't need the hottest shit out there? Yeah. Yeah, his album did hit. I mean, he's pretty big, but I mean, when I, he's someone I listen to, I go, yeah. It's pretty obvious to me. I hear it pretty fast.

When I hear it, I go, I don't go, well, this is talentless shit. I hear it. I go, this is pretty good. You can do it pretty fast like this guy's got it or you don't. Yeah. So when we first started this conversation, you're saying you came to National in 2000 and you tried to make it in country music. Is there a point where you thought you haven't made it in country music?

Because you have, I mean, 1.4 million listeners per month on Spotify, like... I felt like I wanted to make real country music, and then I started making... I started not censoring myself. And people started digging those songs. Like, what if I do a whole album of those songs? Now we're up to... How about four albums of those songs?

And, like I said, I just... My goal was to sell out the rhyming. Yeah. Which I did Friday night. So I'm like, now what the fuck? I guess now all I do is I got a bus with the boys. That's all that's left, right? Yeah, it's all that's left, man.

But so it's like... It's as big as the rhyming though, right? I got as, I got as big as I ever thought I'd be. So it's like, what the fuck do I do now? I don't know. What is, what are you trying to do now? Um, like I said, that photo so much. Let's get this, let's get this fucking bus rolling.

I love that. I'm trying to get a, I guess my next goal would be to get a dick that I could, I could whip out in the NFL locker room. She can be proud of. Yeah. Around the boys. We've been in the league for eight, nine. years. We still don't have dicks you can whip out.

Be proud of them in there, you know? That's a problem with dicks. What can you? There's not much you can do to. Yeah. I don't think so. There's probably a couple surgery. They got to say, right?

The surgery can't be, can't really work. Well, if you can turn it any into an outy. Can you do that? Yeah, people go through like that transition all time. Transgenders. People turn their penis into a vagina. Into an eye.

That's a, Annie into a pussy. No, that'd be your dick is it would be a pussy. Audey is a pussy. Audey's a dussy. Okay, yeah. It's a fun way of saying that, like Poon. Yeah, I guess you're right. But my point is, if there's a doctor's listening, let's figure out this penis enlargement thing.

Let's get it a little better. Hey, what is this right here? Wither Walker Jr. invites Will Smith to the CMA Awards. A lot of face to slap. I just saw him slap Chris Rock's face. And I got pissed me off. First, obviously, it's fucking lame as shit. Control yourself.

But also, like, God damn it, I would love to see him at the. the CMAs just smack every one of those motherfuckers. So you hated it, but you'd like to use him as a weapon. My plan is, I think the next CMAs should be all jokes about his wife. And they just... You're walking around? Where is this? I ask me protesting the floor of George Lining exhibit.

Yeah. They have a floor of George Lining exhibit at the Country Music Hall of Fame. I didn't like him. Fucking hilarious. It is funny. It has... They called the cops, too.

Have they said anything to you, Florida Georgia Line? I don't really speak to them. Have they ever spoken to you? They have not. I've heard to the Great Find. They're not fans. Just a guess. Why would they not be fans?

Because I say a lot of shit about them. Now, what if Florida George Aline came to you and was like, hey, we should do a collaboration, a song together? That's a good question. Say, you two just keep fucking each other and leave me alone. Hey, they're good dudes. They're good dudes, man. Well, they make better fucking music. The good dudes make better fucking music.

Thanks to him. You know. Fucking pull it out. Oh, that is so funny. Was that earlier today? You really do wear the same outfits. Yeah, no. I don't know if that was a month ago or something.

About to text him and say, hey, listen. No, no, I don't want to get my ass key. I'm stuck in a bus. Where am I going to go? You think you wouldn't beat them in the fuck? there's two of them. Yeah, but if there was like a one at a time thing. Here's my one of my...

We have you and we gave you will. And you guys were in like a tag team, WWE type of matchup. You don't think you can take both of them? Here's my issue with guys like that is... You think so? Those guys need to spend less... Because those guys are pretty ripped too.

Those guys need to spend less time in the gym, more time working on their singing and their guitar playing and their songs. Is my note to them. So stick to... No, I'm just saying they spend... You spend it all their time. A football player.

or a basketball player, stick the ball. Stick the ball. Stick the music. That's what you're saying. Yeah. Get a little chubby. Yeah, it wouldn't hurt. I would, I'd listen to them if they were fat.

It's not about the music. They'd be able to write with that pain. Yeah, if you're trying to imply that it's jealousy, maybe it is jealous. That's what fuels your fire. But when I hear, I mean, like, when I hear they're playing sold out Wrigley Field, which happened probably years ago, a hater would say, you're just jealous. And the answer is, fuck yeah, I'm jealous.

I'm not denying it. I'm just saying, I think I'm better than them, and I should sell it, Ridleyfield. But they're on the radio, and there's a reason I get, I'm not dumb, I get why fuck you bitch ain't on the radio. That's tough your music might not be able to make the radio. Yeah, and I, like my, you know,

I have a song called Which One E Queer is going to suck my dick. I realize why. That's the song I was thinking of me. I realize why that's not on top 40 radio, but I still like singing it. All the songs you have, What song do you think could make Top 40 radio? My newest single is called God Told Me to Fuck You, and I think it's my prettiest song I've ever done.

The prettiest song in what way? It just sounds pretty. No, it's not the cleanest. Have you heard the song, I take you for a ride on my big green tractor? We can go slow or make you go faster. Who sings that song? Jason Aldeen sings that song. And I'm pretty sure the tractor is this dick in the song.

If you listen to it. thing those dudes are really into metaphors. Yeah. My thing is it's 20, 22. Yeah. Why the fuck am I going to do metaphors? Poetry? But, art?

No offense to that, to the big green tractor, that don't sound like poetry to me. Yeah. You know, it's just like, I just don't feel like censoring myself, you know? At what point did you start to think that way? Because I will, like, I was told you, I was listening. I was listening on Rogan, and you're like, I spent about 15 years with my dick in the dirt. When did you start? I think I just.

I just snapped. I was sick of trying to please record company assholes, radio dudes. Fuck them all. I don't want to be on the fucking radio. I don't want to be on your fucking award show. I don't want to be on your fucking, I was going to say podcast,

but this is a place is cool. I don't want to be on your fucking. You don't want to be on that bone, that bone Jones. I don't want to be on the fucking red carpet. So I'll just do it my fucking way. Fuck all you motherfuckers. Is that why you retained your music?

at first were you trying to get those label deals to where you probably wouldn't have owned your music? I thought that was the only way to do it. So then I was just like, I can just own my own music. I mean, that was my thing with the whole shit that went down with Morgan Wallen was like, I'm not saying,

it's going to happen to me, but like if you own your, I'm not, I don't, I got no boss. He's got universal, he's on Saturday Night Live, He's got a team of people, big-time agents, all these shit. When you, then you make one little, you make a fuck-up, then there's corporations who are going to, I don't want to deal with no fucking corporations.

I think you'd do amazing on S&L, by the way. I think I would too, but then you'd have to fucking, probably have to watch the show, and I don't want to sit through that shit. No. I'd have to watch the show. You know, an S&L guy? You strike me as a guy that enjoys skit, like Mad TV back in the day or something like that.

I mean, it's stupid. Why is it stupid? I mean... You like South Park, don't you? South Park's funny, but I just don't like the fucking like the topical, like political, like, Biden's old, I get it. I don't need fucking 12 sketches about it, you know? Yeah, that's true.

I actually, I can agree with that. That's kind of like the main move now for the past eight or 12 years, right? Obama, Trump. Yeah, I know. I've never found that shit that funny. I mean, like a buddy of mine who was a big fan of mine. mine, Norm McDonald's really funny. I'll watch him.

RIP. But there's 100%, but there's very few norms. There's no norms left on SNL. I don't have, you know, I have time for that. Yeah, there's, um, that is tough. I feel like when it comes to

Rob Deere, ridiculousness. I do love ridiculousness. When it comes to SNL, every new crew of cast members, everyone's like, oh, they weren't like the last ones. That's probably fair, So I guess I'm just getting older. I find it, I just don't find it funny.

Yeah, you big Belushi guy, Chris Farley, Adam Stanley guy? Chris Farley was probably my favorite. He was really good. Yeah, he was unbelievable, huh? He was. Was there like a defining moment that made you switch to the whole getting a, or like a better term, like derogatory and raw with your music titles and everything else? You said you were sick of like pleasing and trying to get a label.

Was there like a defining moment? I think there, I don't know if there was a, probably, when Garth was getting so big, I was just like, when it just hits you, I'm just not going to be as big as fucking Garth. Why don't I get my own fucking lane and do what I want to fucking do? Because I always wanted to, to, like I said, I grew up on like, I always used the example of, I remember being in my butt, but I grew up from Kentucky, being in my buddy's house in Kentucky.

And me and my buddies were in one room listening to NWA and their parents were down the hall, listen to Whalen, and I went out and take a piss, and I was in the hall. And I heard the twang of the pedal steel of Wayland. I could still hear Ice Cube rapping. Like, it'd be kind of cool to hear these two. Like, they're both kind of badass music. Why can't, why can't Whalen sing what Ice Cube is singing?

You know, why can't he say these words? You know what I get what you're saying? I mean, now we got this shit, too, is like, you know, what's that song, Wadass Pussy? Yeah, Wop. You're like, why can't. It's good, too. I like that music video, too.

Yeah. That will, like, pretty aggressive in the pants. Where's the country artist who's going to sing about wet-ass pussy, you know? You? Yeah, well, they got two at fucking first. But now you dabble in that world. It's weird as I had a song that I never recorded called Wet Pussy, and I should have fucking, I guess, without them, it's probably not as good. With a yodel to it, probably didn't work.

Why don't you redo that song? Same lyrics. Now they'll think I was ripping them all. Oh, you mean you actually redo wetter? ass pussy. We do, like, do a remake in a country version, because I think that shit's hilarious. I'm not trying to make you turn you into Weird Al Yankovich by any means, don't get me wrong.

But I think it's hilarious when, like, a punk rock band does a country song, like a hardcore band does like a country song or a, like a alternative song. Like when genre's mix. Maybe I'll do wet as... Maybe I'm my next show. I don't know when I'm playing next. I think somewhere in Arkansas, maybe, but... Maybe we'll ask the band. That'll be a fun call. Hey, guys,

tell the band, can you get wet-ass pussy ready for the next? show? Would you take your clothes off and start dancing? I'd do it anyway, yeah. You take your clothes off during your show? I'm not joking. I heard there was some fucking at the Rhyman Friday night. Thursday night at my show.

You're not kidding. I'm not kidding. A few buddies of mine. One said that somebody was fucking in the aisles and someone else said there was fucking in the bathroom. What song do you think led to that? Which song? I got to assume eating pussy kicking ass. Yeah. But, yeah, and also heard that we set a beer record at the Ryman, which is a hell of a thing.

Because what's that thing? 140 years old. That's old. Yeah. I'm very proud of that. So thank you to all the beer drinkers. It's a big deal. Yeah.

I mean, that's the record I always talk about records I want. I don't want a gold record. Although, fuck you bitch just went gold. I'll take you. I'll give you one right there. There's go, Bob. I don't want, I don't want gold records. I want to set, I want to set beer records.

Beer records. I set the beer record at the Riemann. You can't take that away from me. Well, somebody, yeah. Managers out there. Let's make a plaque for that.

Somebody might break that then. That's a new goal. No, ain't nobody breaking what we did. I think if we played the Riemann, we would break that record. Our tier ones roll so deep. You ain't seen beer drinkers like we're fans.

That could be true. Yeah, when you brought up Arkansas, you gotta know. I don't know a whole lot to do in Arkansas. Are you from? From Arizona. I'm Missouri. Yeah.

Good luck. I know. What does that mean as far as I getting a crew to drink more beer? Yeah. Let's put it this way. You ain't got what I got. Well, you don't think Missouri can hang in the beer drinking. Me personally, I would agree with that, but I'm telling you there's some...

There's some beer drinkers in Missouri now. I'm not saying there ain't beer drinkers, but you want to try to... You're going to stand up there with a microphone on. on a bus and beat my beer record? You never fucking know. I think we could play music and beat a beer record. We get in the heart of Missouri. We might.

You can't even, you can't even hold your own in the dick category in the NFL. You're going to set the beer record. Well, I didn't say I can't hold my own. I just, you know. And obviously, two totally different categories. How'd you do in math? Horrible? How'd you do in geometry?

Horrible? Everything, every subject I did bad, but. Those are both mathes. How do you do in history? You know what I'm saying? We might do history. You know what I'm saying? Math is doing geometry.

How's you doing geometry? algebra. Motherfucker. You get it? We could do this. Yeah. Now we're going at it. Like, now we're fucking scuffling here, but I don't want that. You guys are cool. But whenever I'm feeling drain will, you know what I do instead? I go to my bathroom.

I open the drawer. What do you do? Hey, tell me about what did you do? I go to my bathroom. Yeah. I open the drawer. And I take out Duke Cannon dry ice and I put it on my armpits. Because when I get, when I get mad, your boy gets, warm. When you get warm, precipitation. Precipitation really fucking bothers me.

It does. So what offsets to precipitation? That cooling AC unit type deal. If I were just run through like this in the Antarctic, Antarctica, Antarctica? What's crazy is you have no sweat things. We've been on this bus for three hours. It's insane. Yeah.

Right? Boom. Dry ice. Amazing, amazing stuff that these people are doing. You go to their Instagram. You see all this stuff in Instagram. You're going to be like, yeah, this is not shampoo and conditioning stuff. This is just dudes being funny as fuck.

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that if I wasn't just spoiling a second ago. He's a Kentucky guy. I know. He told me. I said something about Michigan because I'd never go there. I have no idea what Kentucky did. I wanted those Jordan. Immediately abrasive.

And you said they were Michigan Jordans. That's right. That's exactly what that was. And those Jordans are probably worth what, probably a fucking grand. I said no to them. They got the fucking Michigan colors on them. No, there was a, they don't all have Michigan colors on them, right?

Some of them are just regular Jordans. Michigan is just sponsored by Jordan. What's that? Michigan is just sponsored by Jordan. Are they? So we went in. I'll take those Jordan. What happened to Kentucky basketball?

Kentucky basketball, not our best year. We lost to it. But it was a powerhouse team that beat us. Powerhouse. Wasn't it a 15 seat? St. Peter's, man, the best team out there. Yeah, they were pretty unreal. That kid with the mustache.

What was the name? Cinderella story. Craig, Doug. I mess with Doug. Here's what I was saying to him before was like, do you think it's a coincidence? It's a serious sports question. After all Kentucky basketball's been through,

the first time we ever lose to a 15-seat is the first year they pay players. It feels weird to me. I'm wondering if there's some kind of correlation, like, is... Do the players not give a shit as much? Now that they're getting money? It just seems weird to me, like I said,

our worst year ever is the first year they got money. in their pockets. What about North Carolina? Worst year ever? I mean, you guys were a two-seat. It's not like you had the worst year. Yeah, but the only thing

that really matters, you gotta get in the... Right. Losing the first round is the worst year. Yeah. Yeah. It's the worst... I would say that's the worst loss in Kentucky basketball is.

I would say if that was the case, you have a serious culture issue out there at Kentucky basketball. Serious issue. Well, I think they've always had kind of issue. But go ahead. I want to hear more about... I think, I mean, North Carolina did well, right?

Duke. Duke did very well. did well, I'm just looking for an excuse. Michigan did very well. Yeah, no, but I think that's the fun part about being a fan is if things don't go your way, any kind of spring you can pull. You know, that night I was looking up, you know, I was like, argue with my friends house, St. Peter's actually is a power out of school, you know.

So you just grew up in Kentucky, so you're just, you're loyal to Kentucky? You got one of my dude, root for the football team? No, definitely not root for them. They're gotten better. They're actually kind of decent. They're kind of decent. Well, here's the thing with Kentucky football. And I've been through it every fucking year.

A lot of Kentucky guys in country music. And they come man, can you believe it? We're six and one. I was like, talk to me in three months. We're going to be six and eight. It happens every fucking year. We start out. We fucking kick, you know, E.KU's ass and Moorhead State and all these.

Yeah. Then all these fuckers forget. We got Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee. And they come to me a few months later. Yeah. Okay. We sting. We start out strong.

playing these pussies, and then the real team's come along and we fucking blow it. What do you think Kentucky's got to do to make it back? Or make it too? I don't know. I honestly think it's kind of a... Where did you go to school? I went to Michigan. Willie Boy went to Nebraska.

Yeah, I think it's kind of a cultural thing where it's just like all the focus is on basketball. So it's just like a great football player's not going to go play at Kentucky because... They're basketball school. They've had great players, though. They've had great players. Because the basketball players are going to all the all the pussy, you know.

Yeah. I don't know because Michigan, I don't think it is your point. Michigan, I would say, is a pretty good example of the school that does pretty damn good at both. And they're hockey too. They do great in hockey.

They're very, you know, like college hockey? You like college hockey? I've never, I don't know, I've never watched a college hockey. Have you been to the national,

the Preds games around here? Yeah, they're incredible. Hockey is the most fun sport to watch in person. I was joking about college hockey. I love college hockey. Is it seriously good? I think it's a blast. depends on the school you go to.

You're talking about beer drinking. How's Kentucky? Does Kentucky have a club team? Like, Tennessee, Tennessee, we were in Tennessee earlier this week in Knoxville and they had a club hockey team.

Shout out them, by the way. Of all's ice, they gave us jerseys. That was pretty cool of them. Yeah, Pride of Kentucky. Yeah, they got a hockey squad.

I'm about going up there. I don't even remember a rink or anything, you know. Yeah, they're kind of like hidden little kind of like warehouses. I got a minor league hockey team, I swear. Oh, really? In Lexington, I think.

There's a, there might be, there's a bunch of minor league teams everywhere. Look it up. Did he say you watch the Preds? Yeah, no, I'm a Preds fan, but I mean, I thought, I thought, Throat Blades, yeah. You don't know the Thorough Blades? Let me see, let me see the, you.

I want to see their logo. I might want one of them jerseys. Yeah, they go fucking hard. The Thorough Blades. Yeah. Who are they a farm team for? Yeah, it's kind of obvious with the uniforms. Are you as basketball in your favorite sport?

Oh, no, because that was in Anaheim, right? Inheim Ducks. Basketball is by far? Yeah, not even close. Yeah, because when you grew up in Kentucky, Kentucky basketball, that's all you got, you know. Do you watch NBA? I do watch NBA, yeah.

Who's your team there? I don't know that I have a team because I tend to root for the Kentucky players in the NBA. I'd like Anthony Davis to get healthy. I'd love to see him. play more than 10 games a year with LeBron would be cool to watch. They didn't even make the playoffs this year. Yeah, that was embarrassing.

But I saw Anthony Davis play in college. Like, I went to a game. I was like, this dude's a different cat, you know. He was seven feet tall, making threes, couldn't miss a free throw. And he's good, and he's loaded, but maybe just that frame is hard to keep healthy. I don't know what it is.

Yeah. I don't watch NBA until it gets like playoff time. Now that it's in the playoffs, I like watch. I need some catch up. Who do you think who's the good teams this year? I don't know. I don't know the good teams. I don't know shit about basketball.

The Bron's not in the playoffs year. I'm kind of not watching. But the number's going to go way down this year. Yeah. Way down. And it seems like there's a lot more even now. Is that fair to say? Any NBA guys in here?

Jack, I know you're a basketball player. You're a mural. I mean, I don't know. Last night. You know, the Celtics. And who was a fun game to watch And the Nets were the 8th seed, I believe, in Celtics or 2 And hold on one sec,

Cairie can play all the games now, right? Correct. And he went off last night. He was an incredible game. He was giving a finger to fans too. Jason Tatum ended up hitting a layup at the buzzard to end it. So they beat them by a point.

Yeah, I like the Nets. It was, I guess you could say people were pre-even. I think that there needs to be some more Southern, I guess we've got the grid. But Nashville needs an NBA team. How fun would that be? If that's going to happen, Memphis has got to move to Nashville. I'm saying. It's too close.

Because Memphis is pretty good. I think they... Memphis is good this year. I think they need... I think they pulled the trigger on Memphis too fast. Memphis, they should have waited until Nashville became what it is now. Nashville would have gotten that team. They need an MLB team.

They do need that. Nashville can really use everything. Besides it is now, man, I went downtown this weekend, obviously, to play the Ryman. but Jesus Christ it's a fucking madhouse down there What are you thinking Nashville now from back when you moved here in 2000?

I don't know I got a lot of friends who are getting out you know because Leaving moving away Yeah everyone's leaving Because it's just like

We moved here When I was here And I used to come here all the time In the 80s, 90s When I was a little kid If I had a lot of family here I don't remember it being that big of a much bigger a town than my town's in Kentucky.

And now it feels like... And I fucking hate L.A. They have to go out there to do ridiculousness and bullshit like that. It's a great show, though. Ridiclessness. Yeah, it gets... Runs MTV.

Yeah, and then I go do it and they're... Like, is it worth it? And they... Rob Deird that goes, yeah, we'll probably run it about 90 times. Like, it's worth my time. Yeah. But it's like, this is turning to fucking L.A., you know. How many times you've been on ridiculousness?

It's my second time. Yeah, but they... But ridiculousness. If you go on MTV, when it used to be, and we've had this conversation before, they used to have Next and Room Raiders and all these different TV shows, along with the music videos,

and now really all they got is ridiculousness. No, it really is. It's ridiculousness TV. Yeah, and it's just like all day. That's what they run. And so when he's saying it runs 90 times, so you get a check every single time they run it. Not that I get a check.

It's like... Are you getting a check in your little pace? I mean, I could. No one's... The manager's here. No one's sending me that check. But I'm saying, like, as far as... It's the only...

it's the only mainstream show that'll have me on. Yeah. And as far as mainstream shows... We're pretty mainstream. It's pretty good that the one show that I had me on airs my episode 90 fucking times a day. Yeah. You let it rip on the show like you do. Oh my God.

I watched it the other night, my new episode. Couldn't hear it was just fucking bleeped. Non-stop. That's all it was. Oh, really? Because Rob Deirdek comes up to me before, he's like, just go for it. I wish I'd known that it would be... Because it's not as cool or fun if it's...

It's just all bleep. They're like, what do you think about that clip? And it's just like bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep. Yeah. This is not that fun. What do you think of Rob Deer Deer deck? He seems like he's got his shit together. Genius.

I think he's, I think you're right. I think he's a fucking genius. And I have my little conversation I had with him. What I know about him is he seems like a, he's got something I wish I had. He's just like a business fucking genius and, you know, knows. He's making. When I go do that show, you know how many of those he does in a fucking day. A lot. Because he

composatory, he only spends like 30% of time working. Well, he, the day I was there, I think they scheduled, right? Yeah. I think I was there like a month or two ago. He must have shot 20 shows that day. Yeah, he's like... And 20 episodes, that's two months of episodes. Yeah. He's dialed, like as far as schedule. I don't think he did a take two ever. He's just like,

going, going, going. Really? Yeah, he's like a genius, bro. I've been getting into his stuff. Like he's on... But I saw some... Stuff starting to go on, like, Instagram now. I saw a clip of him explaining that he was like, he demanded a piece of the advertising on the show or something. And that what was the clip I saw where he was like, before he got the show,

he was a skater or something, right? He started DC shoe company. So anyway, but he went to all his company. He started DC. Am I ever saying that? I think he started DC shoe company. He went to all the companies he had sponsorships with before his show aired because he knew he was going to get big.

So he went, I want less money and a bigger percentage. And then now he's fucking low, because he knew that being on the show would... And doing when he stood up Fantasy Factory, he knew, like, because this was a clip I saw recently too. He knew all of his brands were going to really benefit being on, like... Yeah, and he would wear the shoes on the show. And everything kind of took off.

He's insightful to listen to. I like him a lot. I loved him back when he did Fantasy Factory. Like, he would do stuff. And I was like, man, me... It'd be so sick. to have like a fantasy fact, which was crazy because we got a little warehouse now.

We got a little deal going right now. But you always loved him back. This bus is a fantasy fact. Yeah. You really like this bus, huh? I dig it, yeah. It's cool. I used to travel around in different NASCAR places.

But I really like, I think Rob, the way Brandon Shob talks about him, kind of you see him the way he operates and stuff like that. Check him out on Instagram. Not to get a nice subtle plug there. Yeah. Check him out on Instagram. His stuff is actually really cool. Any more nice things you want to say about the guy who's not here?

I mean, I... What else could you say? He's probably got a piece on him. You think so? No. I don't. I don't think he's got a piece on him. If you look at skaters and it's like,

Bamar Jarrah, no. Him, no. Bucky Lassick, maybe. You know, Tony Hawk's got a fucking Anaconda on him, dude. You know, that's a fact? What's that? That's a fact? I don't think it's a fact, but I think he's just look at him.

If you look at guys' features... Yeah, those tall, real big hands? Those tall, Lanky guys, yeah. Lanky, he's got big nose, like, you know, he's got a funny... I don't ask you guys a question. Go ahead. The biggest dick in the NFL you've seen.

The one that I've seen, and I've said it on this podcast a few times, but Amir Abdul is probably the biggest I've seen in person. Like, give me, like, a number. I don't know if I got a number or something. You look at it and you kind of quickly look at a way out of fear, right? Out of respect. Yeah, that's what I'm not. It's like a respectful fear.

It's like, that motherfucker has got it. I mean, look at him. Yeah. Just a pause on the pocket. Yeah. Was he got to strap it down before the games, you think? You got to do something. It definitely, like...

It's not going to fit in that little thing. Right, right, right. To me, it definitely leans. I think it's going down like it's in his sock. Wouldn't that just be something? For me, it'd be Bernard Pollard. I think he just, like, he was my rookie years of safety.

I don't think it was the biggest one of ever seen, but he definitely had that thing out all the time. Yeah, it was a very handsome boy. It was very handsome boy. To me, he's just crazy. It's like, what do you do it? You had a glow in your eye when you said it was crazy to me. You see, he's definitely reminiscent.

What's really, like, blown me away in how this podcast is trying to change my life is, like, there's zero, like, flinched when it's like penises. What do you think? And in my head, I start going through my rolodex of Cox, you know what I'm saying? Here we are. We all got it, man. Yeah, everyone's got that roller decks. Yeah, he's got a piece on them. I wish I knew more guys with big dicks.

All my friends have got the fucking tiny dig. Really? Like who? That's tough. I'm sorry, but I don't want to name their names, but, you know. I want to put them out there like that. Yeah. A manager.

Cool. I don't think you really necessarily need a big penis. But it can barely fit in my fucking mouth. I can barely feel it. You can barely feel it? It's like, yeah, it's like a... God, that's tough. What do you think?

What do you think about, like, when you said your music, like you got as famous as you ever want to get, like, is there an expiration date on this music thing for you? where you're like, hey, I'm kind of, I'm good on this. Probably because I don't, there's only so, I mean, I'm getting, I'm starting to get sick of hitting the road. I love making records. I'll probably make records for a while.

Yeah. And I can, because I own my music, I can actually do okay. Just making records and not having to play as many shows, but I don't know how much longer I'll be playing shows just because it's a cool bus, but do you, what do you want to live in here? I could live in here. Okay, so that didn't help my argument, but yeah, that was tough. Well, how long have you been on the road, like on a bus?

God, I mean, my first tour was, we're hitting that 10-year mark. Yeah, it'd be a long, I think if you had to be on those. I mean, everybody you talk to in the music world when we were talking to Midland, or you talk to those Foragers Line guys or anybody, really, it's like touring is kind of the most grinding. Yeah, and I've talked to buddies who at the peak who were like, man, who got, like, private planes and their own bus, and they're like, man, it's a pain in the ass. Yeah.

And even like, I'm like, you got a private plane. It's like, yeah, but then I got to leave the house. And it's like, you know, no matter what level you get to, they're bitching about. Yeah, there's no doubt. You know, it's wild too. Is that that's a good point because there's got to be something inside you that you get so used to everything that eventually just doesn't even fucking. Well, does that happen with like away games? Are you just like, do you think of them the same as?

You only travel eight a year. But even then, are you like, fuck, I wish it was a home game. I don't want to get on the plane. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. So it's, it's an issue. Unless you're like maybe, unless it's a huge,

like nationally televised game or some Thursday night football, Monday night football. And it's a big rivalry or something like that. Well, to get to my bigger point, did it feel less so when you were younger? Was it like more exciting to get on the plane and go to it? Oh, yeah. When you're younger, it's way more exciting.

That's kind of what I'm doing that. Yeah, being older now, you wish every game was like a home game. You wish every game was a home game and you wish every game was a new game. After playing the rhyme and I was kind of like, I'll kind of like, I'll kind of want. wanted to talk to my people. Like, how about we do three weeks at the Ryman every year? And that's my tour.

That way I can sleep in my bed. Yeah. It's so much better that way. And then, like I was saying, the noon games, when you play at noon, which Tennessee would always get all the noon games because Tennessee wouldn't get much love on the national level. But, bro, you'd be done playing back at home hanging with the fam, grilling burgers and hot dogs at like 4.30 in the afternoon. Yeah, that was something that was-watching the rest of the game.

That was something I never thought I'd be into. So I did a tour with Kid Rock and we, we, we, oh, oh, I. opened up. Shout up, Bob. Hey, you're not supposed to say his real name on here? Why not? I was just joking. Like Voldemort or something.

So I was like, do I want to open up shows? And then after about a month of getting done at eight, it was kind of nice, you know? Yeah. Like, I'm used to getting done about one in the morning, midnight. We're going on tour with him for a couple months and getting done at 8 o'clock every night. What's it like touring with him with a guy like Kid Rock? It was cool. He was just, you know, laid back dude.

It's kind of what you wanted to tour. He's crazy fans going crazy. He's chill backstage, you know. And he takes care of his crew, you know. Probably the best food I've ever had to arm was touring with him. That's what you mean about he takes care of his crew, like all this stuff. Yeah, and like, us being openers, I thought we'd just be shit on. We had the same, we had great fucking food, took good care of us.

great crowds. Brantley Gilbert in there too, huh? Seems like Brantley and Jelly were all about to do a song together. Or they have done us on together. Yeah, yeah, the one that he said. He knows the songs that aren't even out of you. Jelly, man, he's always our boy. I don't even know if I can say that, though.

I just probably asked Jelly if that's okay that we said that. Jelly is our boy. And he's somebody who also owns, like, owns his music. He owns all of his music. With these people who sell their souls to be with labels. And it was kind of like. Yeah, I think we're passing now.

I mean, what do you need a label for to help you upload it to Spotify? What does that take two minutes? Do you think it's going to go to where everybody's owning their own music? Yes, well, yes and no, because there's people like, you know, the Taylor Swiss and Adels and the Bebers and the Bebers who need them a giant machine, who need millions of dollars and need the billboards in Times Square and all that bullshit and need commercials during the Grammys. I just don't need the people.

people. I think there's going to be more of it, but I think there's still going to be the stars who need the giant corporations. I don't think it's a need. It's a want, right? You don't need that stuff at the end of the day. I don't feel good if you saw Wheeler Walker Jr. Billboard right in the middle of Times Square. Well, I...

You're doing one of these. It'd be cool, but the price I would have to pay for that, like I said, I don't want a boss. What you have to... If I had a billboard in Times Square, yeah, it'd be cool. But then I'm sitting at home. chilling and they go you're leaving for tour tomorrow i say fuck you and they go we just spend a million dollars on a fucking then you're then you're then you got a boss and they get they go we paid for the billboard we paid for all this shit you do what we fucking say you do right now

someone says i got i do something i say fuck you i don't have good i got no one to answer to i don't want to answer to anybody how many times you say fuck you to mark um i've only seen for like 10 minutes so far it's like 40 times today Is the Wheeler tough to work with Mark? Oh he's great Oh he's great the whole time Well

Yeah there's a there's a Mike Mark He's the artist who we want Yeah and I will say Mark A manager is not your boss A manager is someone who works with you Should that kind of guidelines Probably should do that. Yeah but also in theory Right

No offense but Mark works for me You know I do. Yeah. Yeah. So my manager works for me. He's not my boss. I don't want any bosses.

That's kind of my rule. What I used to work, I was a farmhand in Kentucky. I had a lot of bosses doing that. And I said, I remember my last day shoveling the shit. It's like no more bosses. I'm going to figure out a way to make a pay my fucking bills

without having a fucking boss, you know. I mean, you guys can't. There's no such thing as an independent NFL player. But if there was, I'm sure you guys would sign up. Yeah, I'd probably sign up for that.

Maybe. There's truly zero way of having been an individual. But you also, but you get, you're sitting here trying to think about it. Oh, maybe I would. You get, you get paid well for us. You see how well I jumped in that, though?

Yeah, I probably would do that. It's a good deal. Meanwhile, there's no fucking chance to get even figure that out. We are independent contractors, but at the same time. I guess the only way you would do it is if you had some, somebody start some new league or something, you know. Yeah, but even in the league then, like what you do,

okay. hey, be at this team meeting at 6am if you want. You know, like, you know, you guys fucking work for me. Yeah. There's a game scheduled. What do you want to, like, hey, you guys work for me. Right. There's like 50 other guys saying the same.

Yeah, there's no real metaphor real because it's like, there's no world where the coach goes going. You're like, yeah, it's not feeling it right now. Yeah. Did you know, this is a stat boys. 52% of men will experience ED in their lifetime. That is erectile dysfunction. Let that think. in for a moment. More than half. Two percent. More men experience ED than don't. But even though it's so common,

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he does work for you, it's like one of those things where maybe he's going out with this boys later and I like, fucking Wheeler, he was a... Well, he's not gonna say it right now, but I do think I'm not. I think I'm fine. Yeah, I'm not an ass.

I mean, that was a tough... That's the tough yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, there's some,

okay, we got a little... Something down. I'm a pan the ass sometimes because I know what I want. I want people to get it done. Mm-hmm. You know, but... Overall, I think I'm...

I want my fucking beer in my... in my dressing room before the show, and I want the... a refrigerator to be fucking closed. When I get backstage at the rhyme and the refrigerator, we stocked your fridge full

of beer. I see it, but the refrigerator's open. The beer's warm, you stupid motherfuckers. Like when I, like, did, was that something I had to specify? Close the refrigerator? I know it's not Mark's fault, but come on, man. I'm fucking Wheeler Walker Jr. closed the fridge.

Jesus Christ. It's on my rider, you know, I get to, you know, put, and I said, I specified the beer, specified the the liquor everything. Get back there. Here's everything you wanted. I see the phrase just wide open.

Like, oh shit, did I forget to tell him to close the fridge? How much instructions you fucker just need? Love that. Hey, that's hard. Mark, that had to be tough for you to hear right there. You ask him, what do you want? He just goes back to the night. Mark pissed him off.

He's what he wants. He has glasses on, but you just tell he's like, what do I want? That's what I want. You kind of give it to us. You know, like the whole, you know the story. about the Van Halen with the no, what's the thing, no red M&Ms in the right?

Yeah, I did hear about that. So Van Halen's thing was they had a rider and they won M&Ms, no red M&Ms. You know? I think it was yellow. I think it was yellow. I think it was yellow. And you're probably right. But do you know why they did it? No.

No brown. Brown M&Ms. We're both wrong. But do you know why they did it? Because it was a, yes. Oh, hold on. It was a, it was, let him guess. Let them guess. Yeah, let me guess. There was, um, you got it. So Van Halen would do that to the people he worked with to show how much detail

they would actually follow. It had nothing to do with the brown M&Ms. It actually had everything to do with like, what they did was they would show up if there's brown M&Ms, they go, they didn't read the shit. Yeah. Oh, I see what you're saying. They weren't, they weren't divas enough that they don't like eat brown M&Ms. It just became this thing known about what joke. But they became known as Van Halen, these fucking Dief.

us, man, they won't eat the brown M&M's. What they were doing was making sure the people were listening to what they're fucking... Smart coaches do that. Do they really? I don't know. Was it Hazlitt? I had a position coach that would have like a dollar amount or a couple

obvious misspellings in his notes. And so when you'd meet with them at nighttime before a game, he would bring it up and he would, you know, call out a player. To see if they were actually... It seemed to actually studied their notes. That's a good deal. That's what happened to...

Will, you got a chance to win money tonight. How much money? What dollar amount did I put at the end of the notes? And so I'd have to know and he would know based on if I knew it or not.

But you would know. The Van Halen of coaching. The Van Halen of... Yeah, they did that too. What was that? Marcus Russell? Right? With the Raiders?

They would give him a tape. That's right. They would give him a tape and be like, hey, go watch this film. And that was when it was like cassette tapes or VHS tapes. And he would go and put it in and he'd come back the next day

and they'd be like, Hage you watch. He goes, yeah, they had a lot of cover two, cover three, blah, blah, blah, blah. The tapes were empty. There was nothing in the tapes at all. Whoops. And so he never even put this shit in. What was the first round quarterback? What did he make a year?

Massive bust. I don't know. He made a lot of money, but massive bust. Millions dollars. Ten million a year, whatever it is. Yeah. I don't think it was that much. But he definitely made... His claim the fame was essentially, what, throwing 70 yards from his knees or something?

It feels like his claim to fame, right? Like, oh, shit, he could throw it. I'm crazy. I was a sign of six years $1.1.00. It was literally 10 a year. I made 70. I go, I don't think it was that much.

I made 70 million. I'm on my knees all the time. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like, it's a weird thing for an athlete. But like, yeah, I can do this from my knees. It's like, I don't really matter. I don't know. Rope in one, 70 yards from your knees.

Oh, it's unbelievable. If you're like, you know, if we're doing it,'s like, I'm going to pass that from my knees. Yeah, I'm sure the coach would rather watch the tape than throw 70 yards. yards from his knee. Right. For sure. That's just showing arm strength, I guess. That would just suck to have that much talent, just be a complete bust.

Was he, where did he go? He's arguably one of the biggest busts of all time. Well, another big bust is from my neck of the woods. Tim Couch's got to be in the conversation, right? Tim Couch, yeah. Tim Couch is. Because he, did he win the Hizman? No, but he was close. And he was, see, my, here's my favorite player of all time. Oh, wow. Isaiah Wilson's in there, too.

I understand him. Is Tim Coucher on the list? Yeah, Tim Couch is on the list. Yeah, you're my favorite quarter. My dad was a fan of his. My favorite quarterback of all time is the guy Astrum, Jared Lorenzen, the hefty lefty. And he's played for the Bayou team, right, in the Arena League?

Yeah, he did do it Arena League. He did Arena League, put for the Giants for a second, too, right? And he won a Super Bowl. We didn't win, I mean, as the backup. Yeah, he was, yeah, he was the HS probably. But he was after Tim Couch, and everyone, everyone talked about how awesome Tim Couch was, number one pick.

Yeah. I always thought Jared Lorenzen, the hefty, Pillsbury Throw Boy, I thought he was way better. Pillsbury Throw Boy. He would just,

like, knock people off and then fucking just, yeah. He was so fucking good, man. Go back to that top 17 bus. I just want to just kind of go through that list real quick.

Who was number one? 15. That's wild. 14. Don't know who that is. Who is that? I don't know who that is. Tim Coucher's your boy.

He's number 12. That's pretty hard. Isaiah Wilson. That's wild that he's made it. That's wild that he's made an all time. Isaiah Wilson was drafted like 29th overall Tennessee Titans about two years ago. It was right in the middle of COVID. And that he was a fucking problem.

That's pretty fast to get on the list. Oh, he was very fast. He was out of there. We're talking two years ago. Kid was an absolute issue. That is, that was so crazy, bro. Every quarterback Jacksonville Jaguars. Biggest bus to have on the bus, too.

Yeah, biggest bust in bus history. Trey Richardson, he was in that. We were in the same, all-American game together. And we should have known, too, because he was late to, like, the first, both the first two workouts. I know. Oh, I forgot about Mansell. RIP, Dwayne Haskins, too. Was Johnny Mansell on there?

Is I admit, I see he was number three. Who's Kaijana Carter? Jana? Tajana. But what, I mean, where? He was, yeah, 29th, but he was also. Did anyone really think he was going to be a great NFL player? Is this?

Manzell. I thought he'd be good. I thought he'd be good. I just don't, I never, to me, it's a weird, bud. Why did you not think he was going to be good Because he was short? Yeah, he's small and... What about Kyler Murray?

Drew Breeze. Drew Breeze very small. You know, I don't like to talk shop. I don't like to talk about this kind of stuff for your podcast. But Drew Breeze and I wear the same size Untucket shirt. I went into Untucket. My wife wanted to buy me a nice shirt, so she's like, Where's the nicest store in America?

Untuck it. And I go in there. And I was like, I was like some kind of special. special is they have the you're the same size in every one of their fucking shirts. You wear it untucked. Wow. Cool. And I'm like, you're, you're a large slim.

And the guy goes, that's what Drew Breeze wears. I go, that's a small fucking dude. If we wear the same size untuck it. And also, you're Drew Breed's tuck in your fucking shirt. But I thought he'd be a stud because we've talked to, we talked about Mansell. I thought he was going to be that dude in the league. He was good for a few weeks. Sonic in college.

Really, his, you know, his first win was against Tennessee Titans. Was that right? Yeah. First win. The third, fourth game of the season. And Johnny was playing, we're all like,

oh, we're going to win. And we did. Well, would Tebow not be on that list? For bus? Yeah. That's a good point. He won a playoff game. But I guess no one.

People got blackball. That one. He was another one who they probably, he got blackball that way. You're saying random shit. But he's probably another guy who, who no one. He won a playoff game, but he just wasn't

good enough to be in the NFL. Yeah. What are you talking about? He's led a squad. He won a playoffs. It's a bust because people thought he didn't have what it took before he started. I think that's, I think that's a good point. That's a really good point.

There's a difference between a bust and good college versus how good you are as a pro. Yeah, I think Tim Tee was one of the best, one of the best, probably top five college quarterbacks of all time. Wasn't he, didn't he, isn't he, none of those guys saved himself for marriage? Yeah, allegedly. Yeah, allegedly. But you believe it. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. He's got a wrench? No. He's got nothing, right? I don't think so. I think he's average. He might be average.

You know what I mean? He's got the power Christ. I don't think a big. Yeah. A grower, not a shower. You know? You can kind of always tell. Do you think it really grows?

You never know, man. Oh, I got a feeling that I got guys. I fucking hate Florida. You hate Florida? I hate the team. I don't hate the state. Kentucky beat the team this year, right? You guys beat Florida this past year.

No, I think we lost Florida. I have to double check. But. We're missing the bigger point. Tim Tebow's got a small dick. Guys. You don't save yourself for marriage because you got an anaconda. Yeah, that's true.

But also... But I'm with you. God, right? But I think he was... I think he was saying that. I heard, actually, when I was in college, some girl, like, came from Florida and said that. She was sucking Tim Tebow's dick.

But they didn't have sex. Yeah, so... Should that really count, though? I don't know. That's losing your virginity? Well, I sing about it all and God told me to fuck you if you want to hear the details. Yeah. I think if, yeah, actually, pull up the lyrics, God told me to fuck you.

I think if it was the opposite way. I'm saving myself from marriage. It was opposite of that. Like, I'm trying to get pussy. And someone sucks your dick. You wouldn't say you had sex. Let's say you only got your dick suck. You would never say, I've lost my virginity.

You'd say, I've got a head. That's fair. but I don't think the good Lord is like, save yourself for me, but get your dick sucked a bunch. Yeah, that's well, the same thing goes as the anal, right? Like all the, not all the, I'm not going to generalize, but they would go to like Christian camp or whatever. Like the story you hear, I don't know, I don't even know if this is true,

but you go to Christian camp, the girls are like, oh, let's do an anal instead of, what's that? That's the guy who knows, yeah. Yeah, yeah. What is this? God told me to fuck me, God told me to lick your crotch. That's the guy who knows his way around a Mormon, but. I dated a Mormon girl for a second.

Really? Not really. That's a real thing, bro. We knew each other. What's that? No, that's a real thing. No, we never did that. They're doing the butt stuff.

Going butt stuff. I heard that. That's not really losing your virginity. When I'm telling this story, I'm saying it, and I'm like, but I've never actually heard that. You just hear it, but I don't remember anyone telling me it. So I'm like, how am I going to speak this into factual evidence? We have millions of viewers.

I got a lyric about that in Pussy King, right, Mark? Mark, do you know all of his lyrics? I'm trying to remember the lyric, but there's something. about something about I can't remember the lyric. Something about a girl. Something about a truck. Yeah. I'm talking about all the pussy

I get in the song Pussy King. Catholic Catholic Virgin thinks it all doesn't count as the lyric. Yeah, no, I think that's a or Catholic Virgin said that ain't it doesn't count. When it comes to writing this stuff, who is all you? All me, yeah. You line.

No, not lying. All right, that's all I need to hear. I believe you. Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark, he's, he's been cashing those

ridiculousness checks, too. Mark, have you squeezed a lyric in there before? No, got involved.

Writing. Yeah. When you're writing as Mark around? Fuck no. So you're the only one in the room when you're writing?

Yeah. How difficult does it? What's your process like when you go to write? I'll just, well, I'll give you an example of, um,

helps, we'll talk about, God told me to fuck you. I, so I was growing up. That's your number one to you right now, Yeah, I'm here to promote not to meet dudes.

No, but... Yeah, 100%. I get that. I'm joke. I'm a amazing platform. It's just in my head because we were talking about it. I was a kid, not a kid, teenager, and there was a buddy of mine who was dating a real religious girl. And she didn't want to have sex, obviously.

Teenage boys is all they want to do. And she goes, well, let's pray on it. That's the best he could get from her. Yeah. So next day they come, she's like, well, I heard nothing. He's like, and he goes, well, God told me that we should fuck. And then when you, and then I was like, if I ever make it as a country star, I'm going to sing, I'm going to write that song. Yeah.

And I gave you the end of the story is they're married to this day, so it worked. Look at that. That's fucking awesome. Did she listen? Yeah, she said, but he was very, he was very passionate about it. He said, I talked to God and he says, we should have sex. And I said, like I literally said in my head, I remember talking to myself. I make as a country saying, I'm writing a song called God told me to fuck you.

Because he told her in so many words, those exact words. But did it work for him? Yeah. They're married to this day. Well, yeah, I know that, but did. Yeah, that you know. He was fucking that moment. Yeah, did he get sex with her because she thought that and that he, that God told him that.

And he did, we don't know that it's true or not. Right. What's his conversation with God? I don't know what the fuck. Yeah, no one. Yeah. everybody has their own conversations. No, I get that.

I'm with it. Do you, are we doing tear talk or anything like that? Yeah, we, Jack's got a tier talk teed up for us. What's this? Ted Talk. Ted Talk, tier talk. It's like the opposite of TED Talk. Tier talk is, we have tiers in our system as far as the podcast goes.

There's Tier one, the rider dies. The one that'll, you know, if we're like, hey, drink this, they'll drink it. You know, that type of thing. Tier 2's are a little lower. And then tier 3 is you obviously know how a ladder works. And so those, like, kind of goes up and down. So we have a thing called Tier Talk. And the Tier Talk today is what?

The best Benz? The greatest Benz of all time. The greatest Benz of all time. I don't know any Ben. You might know some. You might know Big Ben Rathesberger. I bet Ben Rothesberger definitely listens to your music. Yeah.

Well, what would have Ben Rathesberger do? And he whip out his dick somewhere? I don't know. There's a lot of allegedly stuff. I think he trapped a girl in a bathroom, something like that. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly.

He was all safe. I think he was a predator at that time. You think he was at that time? You see some stories out there and, you know. Once a predator, always a predator type of vibe to you? Or is he free and clear? He might, who knows? I don't know.

I don't know him. I didn't follow the story after that, but I know during that time frame. That's a pretty weird. That's a, like, don't get in a bathroom with Big Ben. Yeah, I try not to. Yeah. It's a pretty weak list right there. Is this all, is it all we have?

Like, just we have nine? This is, yeah, uh, yeah, nine people. You can think of any other famous band. You know, it's tough when he goes. That's a pretty weak list right there. Find me a more famous bin. Okay, here we go. We got Ben Franklin, Ben Stiller, Ben Affleck, Ben Schwartz, Ben Kingsley, Ben Rothusberger, Ben Shapiro, Ben Foulds, and Ben Mendelssohn. I'm going to go number one Ben Mendelso. I got no idea who he is.

I respect that, so that's Tier 1. He's an actor, right? Yeah, he's in, what is it, Bloodline. Yeah, he's not that famous if you go, he's an actor, right. Who's your Tier 2? Because there's another actor, Ben Steeler. Stiller. My tier one on this list is definitely Ben Stiller. Yeah, he's fine.

Yeah, Ben Stiller, Ben Affleck for me. They're one and two? He's back with J-Lo, right? Ben Affleck is back with J-Lo, so long game, he ended up getting J-Lo. Really? Yeah, man. That's the definition of a long game, huh? Yeah.

Good for him. J-Lo does do a great job of staying in shape at her age. Oh, 100%. It's incredible, actually. Fantastic. Tier two, who you got? You gotta think Ben Franklin. Yeah, Ben Franklin.

I fucking love America. Yeah. Love it. I love America and you love electricity, right? We're able to do this because of it. I'll say my two favorite things. Yeah. That's probably, and then, you know, after a whole of all that great talk.

I love kites. Kites are cool. Kites with keys are cool. Yeah. Yeah, so I get that. I can respect that. And I'll say Ben Folds just because he's all a musician on there. Ben Folds?

I got Tier 3. I got Tier 3. Yeah, so Tier 1. one is who? Ben was the guy I never heard of. Tier 2 was the most famous one in tier 3 was Ben Folds. Ben Folds who nobody really gives a falcon about.

I got Stiller, Franklin, and Affleck. That's not bad. Oh, you just went top three. Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to really tear these boys out. You know what I mean? I'm going to go Franklin. Coolander? Heavyweights? Yeah, they're great movies. I'm talking it, Pat.

Yeah. Don't many miss about the abdominal muscles? I'll be glad to put this one to rest. Ben Franklin, then I'm going to go, Ben Stiller, and then, yeah, I guess I'm with you, Ben Affleck. That's pretty good. Kind of came at the boy, and now I'm with him.

So you went Franklin first. Yeah, I think Franklin, he... Yeah, he's, it's like, here we are doing all this electricity stuff. I feel like he deserves the top spot. We've got internet connection. I have this mic works, there's lights. We all use a lot. I'm not, he don't get my Ben...

Don't get my Ben Mendlson talk as me disin electricity. I don't want to be on, I don't want to be on Bussing with the boys' Dissin electricity. Yeah, you don't want that. Yeah. That would be... You talk about getting canceled, yeah. Well, you wanted to get canceled, so maybe you should... Yeah, but not for that reason, because that's serious shit.

Yeah. If you could get canceled, what would you like for it to be over? Ben Mendelsso. I respect that. Do we have any more sessions? I would love... Would love to hear a good old tale on the road. That is true. I love to hear good, like, say the boys are

sitting in the locker room. We got a six-pack of beer cold in the fridge. Door shut. We whip a few out, and you're telling us a good old-fashioned locker. I'll tell you something. Want to hear a story about the craziest fan I ever heard of? Yes. We'd love to. Um, so I was the first time I ever played San Francisco. I don't know why this was San Francisco. Techtown. We were there and, um, this, uh, a black security guard came up to me after the show. He said, awesome show, man, but I got some shit with a fan. I go, Oh man, I hate to hear that. What happened? He goes, the dude called me a racial slur.

I go, what the fuck happened? He goes, the dude got so into you. He barfed, passed out, and shit his pants. So I kicked him out. And then he called me, when I was kicking him out, he called me a racial slur. And I said, who are you the fuck to call me that? You shit your pants, motherfucker. And the guy goes, I didn't shit my pants, motherfucker.

He stuck his finger down, his two fingers down his pants. and pulls out some shit and licked it and goes, I guess I did. When people ask, when people ask me about what Wheeler fans are like, that's kind of the story I tell them. The kind of motherfuckers who, if you say you shit your pants, they want to know for sure.

That shit was unbelievable. And I'm still kind of scarred. This was years ago, and I'm still kind of scarred. Imagine how the security guard feels that saw it first hand. Yeah. Well, God. In San Francisco, of all places. I guess there's a lot of people that shit on the floor in San Francisco.

I like how you say that. Everywhere in San Francisco. That's the last place you think someone eat their shit. Yeah. Isle 7. They're eating their shit. You get homeless people that go into the convenience stores and take a big fat dump. You think you think Tennessee would be a hot place for eating their shit,

eating your own shit. You think so? About 20 minutes outside of Nashville. I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't done that for years, man. No.

Last time I shit myself. 2020? 2021? I didn't taste it. Yeah. Why did you shit yourself? I ate something bad. And I was down.

I was in California. And I went to the beach. And I did something like a quick movement. And I farted. But it wasn't just fart. Well, yeah, I mean, it held up in the shorts.

You know what? I don't like to wear underwear. So yeah, I guess it was more of a shirt. But it was enough for me to run back up those stairs at the bluff. And sure up. Nothing worse than like a shart, dude. Like a quick shard.

and you're kind of extremely insecure in the moment. There was one time I was riding my bike home and I couldn't make it and I just, I start shitting myself on the right home. And I feel so bad that I'm shitting myself. I'm so embarrassed. And I'm by myself. Like in the movie, Jackass?

Yeah, I'm trying to fucking hurry up and get home because I feel myself about the shit. And I just legitimately just start shitting myself on the way home and I'm young too. So I start crying. I'm like crying on the way home and shit. We love.

Nothing like shit and crying. Right. Thinking my parents are going to be, thinking my parents are going to be mad at me. You have that move where you do that. I've had that a bunch where the pulling of the pants down is the exact moment. It's like you're like it's like splitting hairs. Yeah.

Been there. You're rushing your asses like the gravity is taking you to the seat. Yeah. And it's kind of the same time. All I think is like would have it been one second, literally one second later. I think your body just knows you're there. It's like when you're peeve you real bad and you see the toilet and your body's like, we got to fucking go. So it kind of cranks it up a notch on you.

Maybe. I don't know. Or like you're starting to... I think it's meant... I think your body knows. That's a toilet underneath your ass. Right, but you're starting to descend down and you're like kind of still squeezing until you can fully sit down and relax.

It's almost pushing you back out. I'm saying. A velocity behind that. Yeah. This was a great time. We appreciate you. I love talking about country music. I love talking about Ben Mendelssohn and I love talking about shit.

So I'm in the right place. And God told me to fuck you. I like I love talking about Dix. And my new single too. So everybody go download it. It's on all the platforms, right? Yeah. Except for what? I was going to talk shit about Spotify. They don't pay enough. But it is on Spotify. They don't pay enough what you mean? They gave Rogan $100 million, $200 million.

Yeah, they pay me a little less than that. A little less? Yeah. Just the time. That is the Spotify pay me. I think what are they paying price? 0.0.0.02 cents per stream or something. Really? 1.1.4 million listeners per month. That's a long time. Yeah. All I got to do is, um, you're lying. So all you got to do is get two trillion streams to get $2,000. $2,000.

That's not bad. Yeah, it's not bad. But that's why I got to do. That's why I'm on the podcast. Because I'm only at $1.5 trillion right now. You went on a spot. You've been on this podcast twice. Been on a couple times, yeah.

Yeah, what was that experience like going on Rogan's podcast? Is it as fun as this? Probably not as fun as this, but it was. I would say it's, I would say it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a similar vibe. It's just, the thing about Rogan's, Rogan is it's long. It's like a marathon. You got to pace yourself, you know.

It's like, don't run out of things to talk about hour one because you got, you're ready for hour three. It gets into the deep shit. He does. But you guys do it a cool way where the shit comes at the end.

So it keeps my attention to the end. The shit comes at the end. I mean, like literally talking about shit. By the time of shit. Country music. Fucking the 60s. He comes. Shit.

don't talk about Joe or Ben, what's his name? And good looking dudes. Ben Mendelsoe. And good looking dudes. No, we weren't talk about more about good looking dicks than good looking dudes. One last question before, one last question before you go, what's one thing country music can do from a general's perspective to change to make you happy? Oh. I love when the guys compliment themselves on a question.

I think what they... Well, I wasn't, I wasn't Will complimented me. What do you got to get out of that? I have complimented Will several times. And that's what this relationship is all about, you know what I'm saying? Gas up. I think... Normalized dudes hyping up other dudes.

Country music. That was a great quote. To help out. I think they could stop listening to the labels and the corporations and listen to the fans more. Because when the fans get the good shit,

I told you about Tyler Childers. When they get it, they listen, you know. And when they get culture wall, they dig it. So stop taking it from... And those guys don't have the giant machines behind them. Stop listen to the fucking machines. Listen to the fans.

is what kind of country music used to be all about the fans. I don't feel like it's fan-focused anymore. Is that a good answer? That's a good answer. It makes you feel like you're really anti-the-man, though. Yeah, but I am. You can tell he got his dick was in the dirt for like 15 years, and he pivoted. He said, fuck these motherfuckers.

I'm going to make my own shit. Now look at me. And now that it's like paying off, you're like... Making a thousand dollars a month on my Spotify. Yeah, exactly. You've made it. I don't want to brag, but I can almost pay my rent. Not in Nashville.

Or a brag where I can almost pay my rat. What if I really pays like that, huh? Shit, I hate when my manager tells me facts that I just don't want to know. That is. What platform pays the best? It can't be Apple. It might be. Title?

Title? Pays the best? Title pays the best, but who listens to title? Yeah, I've never even heard of title. Is title the one that Jayzeo? Yeah. What do they pay? Is Apple music pay?

Apple music paid. What do you mean? He hides behind the fat. Spotify the lowest because they got that free tier. Yeah. That's why Spotify pays the lowest because you can still listen for free. You don't have to pay for it. Yeah. What are you getting an ad every fucking six song or every one song?

That's tough. I think when I go into a gym in football, whether it's in a college, whether it's planet fitness, whatever, if I go in there and I'm playing music or music is being played and there's a song or a commercial that comes up, what are we doing?

We can't spend $3 on them. this? Yeah, you're in the NFL. You need to be, they can pay for, you're fucking Spotify. And the Titans don't. They don't? Their facilities are getting better every single year. They're doing multi-million dollar renovations every single year. This seems like the biggest news story. We saved it for the last. Tennessee Titans won't pay for Spotify.

Yeah, it's Pandora actually. Pandora, they don't fucking, Pandora pays the least. That's pretty disrespectful. Yeah, but they don't have, they have fucking ads in the weight room. Well, guess what? Where's the camera? Where's the bottom line? There's three of them. the fucking Titans.

Whoa, hey, no. Hey, listen, no, hey, listen, no, hell yeah. Hell yeah. No, but I'm serious. Who's the owner of the Titans? Amy Adam Strong. You better fucking, you better ride this way real, yeah, I don't care. It's my platform. Hey, Tennessee Titans.

Buy the subscription, music subscription. By title. It's owned by Jay-Z. You like Jay-Z. By title. I never heard of it, but buy it. What an ad. Yeah, how about that? Were you on Napster back in the day?

Yeah, that's the thing is I get pissed about these numbers. What are we doing in the background? I get really pissed about this low money, but I stole my fair share of music. So who might say? Yeah, Limewire, Frostwire, all that shit. All that shit. Shout out the old boys. He used to crank shit down with Frostwire.

What's Frost? I don't know Frost. Same thing as Limewire. Same thing as Limwire. Illegally downloading stuff. Yeah. All of a sudden, a bunch of stuff pop up. You'd be cool to illegally download my own album.

be fun. I'll probably illegally download your album. Thank you. Thank you, man. You're very welcome. You know, the listeners is the listener. Yeah. They're telling us to get out of here.

I talk too much shit about this. As soon as Jack said, what are we doing here? Yeah. That's probably tough. Yeah, exactly. What are these like? For three hours. These are like the iTunes reviews.

We're kind of like, we're kind of becoming a Rogan. Yeah. I would agree. We have almost as many followers as him, too. I've done a lot of podcasts. I've never had a producer say, what are we doing here? Yeah. That was one of the most.

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