Bussin' With The Boys - Will Compton & Delanie Walker’s Advice To Young Athletes + Michael Bisping On How Prison Changed Him

Episode Date: April 9, 2024

Recorded: February 8th 2024 | In this weeks episode, it’s another Willy intro but this time he is joined by the honorary boy, Delanie Walker. The guys recap their trip to Nebraska this past weekend as well as get into some of the current NFL news. The biggest thing they touch on is life after football. One of Will's former Nebraska teammates unfortunately is no longer with us that sparked the conversatioon of taking advantage of the status you have as a football player. Will and Delanie get into what life has been like after football and the anxiety that is there when you know your career is coming to an end. Following the intro we are going by UFC legend, Michael Bisping. Michael gets into his journey of making it to the UFC and how a trip to jail turned his entire life around. The guys then get into some of Michael’s older fights and which ones he remembers the most and if any of them left lasting effects. Then the guys talk about his transition into the media side of the UFC. Finally, Bisping gives his thoughts on the Chandler McGregor fight that is in a few months. Michael is a hilarious individual and tells some funny stories throughout the pod. Big Hugs and Tiny Kisses. TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro 2:00 Delanie Is Back As The Honorary Boy 2:30 The Boys Got Husked 11:22 Life After Football 39:48 The Boy Joins In 1:11:29 Dip Spit Or Rotten Teeth 1:15:41 Stefon Diggs To Houston 1:21:56 Dad Talk 1:30:03 Shoutout Phone Games 1:44:53 MICHAEL BISPING INTERVIEW STARTS 1:45:04 Life After The Octagon 1:48:12 DJ Mikey B 1:49:53 “Jail Changed My Life” 1:52:00 The ultimate fighter was his big break (YT) 1:55:56 What Loss Keeps Him Awake At Night? 1:58:38 Steroids In The UFC?? 2:01:56 Getting Knocked Out During The Biggest Event 2:03:04 Winning The Belt 2:04:08 Transitioning To Other Side Of The Octagon 2:10:14 Going Blind In One Eye But Still Wanting To Fight 2:12:25 Who Could He Beat Now? 2:13:29 Other Fight Leagues vs UFC 2:14:56 Chandler vs McGregorFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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the one, the only, the mule. Delaney Walker. Round of applause for Delaney. On this show today, we're going to We're going to talk about, which I wanted to get your opinion on too, some stories out there of, I spoke to the Huskers over the weekend. I'll get into the messaging there, but there was a teammate of ours from the Braska back when I played when I was a freshman that took his own life.

He was homeless, and he recently just died like last week. There was some messaging around like transitioning after football. Dionne Sanders, some kids are like, some of the athletes on there were either not showing up at class, being disrespectful. He's kind of talking through some things on the board. I think it would be a really good conversation with us, kind of talking about, you know, these athletes taking things more serious than just what their craft is. We're also going to talk some dad talk. We've got some tier talk where we're going to talk about the Masters Club dinner. Did I say that correctly, G?

I don't want to mess that up. With the Masters coming up this week, what else? We'll recap our Nebraska trip over the weekend. Where we're going to next, there won't be a live show at Oregon, but we're going to Oregon next week. And then we're going to Alabama. The week after that, we will be doing a live show at Alabama. so make sure you're following along at Bus and WTB for all that information. But Delaney, welcome to the show, bro.

Thanks for having me, man. It's always good to be on the bus. It's always good to be on the bus. People seem to love the mule. I'm the fucking mule. You was like the only... Black guy. No, I was a mixed guy in the crowd.

There was. He kind of raised his hand. But then another person in the crowd was like, he's not black. Did y'all not hear that? No, I didn't hear that. I swear to you. You could be a white person, be like, hey, you're not black. He was a white person.

He's like, that guy is not black. I was like, damn. Yo, what was your take on Nebraska? Did I have I turned you into a Husker fan? Definitely, definitely. I mean, when you think of Nebraska, you don't think of what you about to see. Like, honestly, you think of it's some cornfields, gang of fucking white people. I mean, that was, that's true.

That holds the line. That still stuck. But that's on par. The school is pretty much, it got a city, It's got a nightlife. The school was awesome. I mean, what they got going up there, going on up there in Nebraska. I can see why a lot of guys come out of there and be successful.

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Thank you, Mitch. What was I fucking talking about? You said you met with some girl. Oh, yeah, yeah, I think her name was Laura about the merch we're going to get to do this year. I did not speak with Laura. I'll show you. I'll send you that.

She sent me, the stuff you sent by the, way we got some boy mom merch coming out. That's fucking awesome for Mother's Day. So be on the lookout for our boy mom merch. We get to drop a couple hats. They didn't let us do a whole lot because we got to kind of see how we do with this first run of everything. But to all the boys that listen to this show, you have an awesome mother who I'm sure helped raise you very well. Nothing would be a better Mother's Day gift than getting her a boy mom hat or for any of the hubbies out there. You guys have a son, get one for your wife. If we do happen to have females, I know we got like three 3% of our audience was female.

There's some boy mom hats that are dropping soon. But that same rolodex of a boy mom hats, she sent me an entire thing of like options that we'll get to select with like the boy, the diamond stuff with 47, where it says Nebraska's the boys. Oh, for real? Yeah, like stuff that you're going to be fired up about. With the end on the side and everything.

Yeah, like branded. Yeah, they're hoping that they can get it into, they're hoping that they can get into like stores on campus. Obviously, it'll be on the 47 site, but Huskers, we'll be running it up this year. I think there's a lot to be excited about. We got some color on the white receiver core. I saw some cats out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, you ain't used to that. Too many white dudes running around there. Not that there's anything wrong with that. You need a scrappy white guy that can play in the slot. Definitely. It has dependable hands and everything else. True. But there was that one cat.

I think he was a transfer from, was it Oregon? No, West Wake Forest. Texas? Wake Forest. Okay. Long cat. attacking the ball over the middle. Like, and what I see,

a little 19 making that play, Dylan Ryola. I mean, you got two receivers came in from Texas. That's phenomenal. Yeah. You got, I'm going to say, Devon Hall, and then Arquise. I don't want to mess his name up,

but for sure, them dudes was showing up the other day. We might be nice, JP. Hey, but don't sleep on the white wide receivers because on social media, obviously I wasn't there, but I saw a little race between you, too.

And Will, yeah. Uphill. Hey, thank you, JP. Appeal, I give Will a pill. You know what I'm saying? But if we read his straight flag, he can't keep up, bro, that acceleration I had going uphill?

It was clean. You clearly top out after five yards. You crazy. I'm Zooming. I had on these heavy-ass sweats. I had on Air Forces that wasn't tight of sweat. And before we race, Will was tying his shoes.

He choked tight. him. Did you not? I laced, but you got to be prepared. That's what I said. I thought, so in the beginning of it, we thought he was just going to race coach. That was the whole headline. It was you versus coach. And then it went to. Well, he didn't want to. But I was like, they were like, hey, we got to do this. Like, you got to get Coach Rule to get out there and race your appeal.

And he didn't want to do it at first. But last week when we were at Florida State and you beat me in the jump off and I was trying to, I was like, yeah, we can race. Yeah, we won and won. Yeah. So I had to get you. But the next time we go somewhere, the next event, we can do a race or we can do coverage. It's whatever. You ain't got any.

I was just telling you right there. You cannot lock me up. Just like Week 7 in 2014, bro. Okay. How many catches you had? Two. Two catches. How many yards?

For 17. How many targets? Five. Cover one all game. Five targets that we can pull up the film. I don't even think the. ball was close to me on either three targets. It was like, it's tough when you got tight windows.

Nah, nah. But you like, it's tough when you got tight windows. But the crazy part, look at the guys who got catches. Like, y'all were really trying to stop me. Other dudes ate that never ate before. Yeah, you're a monster. Okay, that's all I got to say. Three-time pro bowler.

Hey, we got to look out for this cat. Don't worry, coach. I got him. Decoy. You got to worry about him. I was a decoy for that game. Had to be because you weren't open. I gave you that.

They should let us know in the comments what the third event should be between y'all too. Okay. Everybody in the comments, let us know with the third event. Delaney wants to race on flat ground because apparently that makes up all the difference in the world.

It definitely does. We're running uphill, bro. Bro. Jill, we ran uphill. You barely beat me. It was like... Number one, it's like a 20-yard. Like, it's not like I can smoke you.

That's what I'm saying. And even in the first one, you was trying to pull me down. I was about to beat you by five yards. I slowed down because, look, honestly, I did. I jumped on that first one. I took off and then I started to slow down, but I saw you was still going. So I tried to grab you.

Hey, I'm a cheater. I've never said I don't cheater. No, but that was a fun weekend, JP. We hated that you couldn't make it with the boys, man. We had a good time. Coup. He, we got him nice and sauced up. It was his first time, so we had to give him a couple of Coop chance.

Yeah. I couldn't necessarily get him at the beginning, so I had to lean on Delaney. I was like, hey, we got to get Kube going. He won't say no to you. Yeah, he was. There was no saying no to you. He, every five minutes, shot, shot.

You'd be like, you good. Yeah, let's take a shot. I was like, God damn. Big time, dapp a pug guy when he's drunk. Oh, hug, dab, whisper in your ear. Oh, we were out late. Then I had to, I was up. the next morning.

Troop. Coach Ruhl wanted me to go to talk to the team. And man, that's... Trooper. Trooper. He is a trooper. I'm not even going to lie.

730. Text messages. Who coming? Silent. Silent. Just imagine Rul hyping you up. We got a very special guest coming. He was successful on the field,

successful off the field. Everybody, please welcome Will Compton. I just hung over. Bro, I was hung over. I had to stand in a cold shower. I had to, like, just get going. Because I was like, man, I was out too late last night. But everyone said he killed it.

As soon as I got there, they was like, Will killed it, man. He killed, and I was sitting there like, for real. I was shocked. You know it was solid when all the brothers are coming up, being like, hey, that was some good shit. You have them locked in. Usually you get guys back in the chair kind of leaning back. You kind of know when, like, man, they're not fucking with anything I'm saying right now.

But they were locked in. They were locked in. They all came and told me, like, Will crush that speech. Beach. Will battled early. We all showed up at like, I don't know, 1045, got to the field by 11, and Coach Ruhl goes, Delaney, glad you could make it. Everybody, bro. I'll be on blasts for everybody. I'm like, I got to, I start disappearing in the bushes. You saw I start backing up. No, but it went well. But honestly, like what I was saying in the intro earlier, like, I was thinking like, man, what can I, Coach Rue wanted me to talk about.

like success off the field, transitioning after football, because, you know, the reality is like 1% goes and plays D1, 1% can go to the NFL. There's not going to be a whole lot of guys out of that room, which everybody has the dream of doing it. You hope everybody does. But he's like, I want you to talk to him about like life after football or kind of lean into the messaging there. What I was trying to think about when we were flying out, like what to like what to kind of go off of. Unfortunately, earlier that day, there's a text message I got in our Huskers for Life group chat. There's like 20 something of us. We call it the Husker birthday group chat.

It's kind of like we only chime in when somebody's like today's day's birthday. Oh, happy birthday. It's just a line of happy birthday unless there's some news that happens. And somebody dropped in the chat that Kenny Wilson, he was a running back. He was a senior when I was a freshman. So I didn't know him very well. I only had a couple conversations with him. But a teammate of mine had killed himself like he had died.

And listen, I haven't read all the reporting or anything else. That's just what was kind of in the group chat and that he wasn't doing well. and they think he took his own life and yada, yada, yada. It was just like a sad, unfortunate situation. And it got me thinking that, you know, this is a dude that I played with, that I'm in my 30s. This dude's in his 30s. And his situation wasn't going well and felt the need whether he took his own life

or however he ended up passing away. But just being in a bad situation, I was thinking I was going to lead with that story to think like all you guys in here think that, you know, you're going to play college ball. hopefully you all play in the NFL. But at some point, we all retire, whether it's after high school, whether it's after college,

whether it's two years in the league, whether it's three years in the CFL, whether it's I got to play for nine years. I said depending on the day, 10, but I was like, it all ultimately ends. And unless you're like a massively successful guy, like most people, like, you know, you still have like a whole lot of life to live.

And so it's kind of going off of like taking advantage an athlete. And I would love to have your perspective too, because you work with the NFLPA. So anytime that there's like a tough situation going on with guys transitioning, you're somebody who calls them, you talk to them through stuff like when guys are going through, whether it's an identity crisis or something else. But I was trying to express how important it is that you guys don't understand getting to sit in these seats.

It's like a running joke in the NFL. Like if you wear the shield, your jokes are funny or you're better looking and you get to shake more hands than ever before. And you need to take advantage of it while you're playing it. And it's no different sitting at any D1 program, but especially at the University of Nebraska as well. Like you guys are the pro team. Like you guys have so much opportunity in all these resources. You saw the facilities.

You see how much support that they have on staff just to be successful in life, whatever it is, that you guys need to be taking advantage of it. Because, again, we understand. Like, we sat in those seats, bro. We all want to play in the NFL. We all want to play in the league. And it doesn't happen for 99% of cats. Like, what would be, like, what's your kind of thought process on that?

Like, were you always somebody who thought, like, I was going to go to the league? And then when it was coming to an end, talk about how you kind of went through that process and talk about the transition itself. I mean, you know, like you said, we all dreamed. Our goal was to be in NFL. That's the big goal. That's what it all come down to when you play football. So, you know, I had that goal.

I had that dream. And then going D2, you know, I didn't know how reachable my dream. was because I was D2. You know, I knew I was good, but I knew being at a D2 school, I maybe probably wouldn't get drafted. Probably was going to go on as a free agent. So, you know, there were things that I had to really make come clear and understand that this could happen.

I may not be a draft pick. I may be a free agent going in for a tryout. So I had those, that's the thoughts I had. So I really didn't have high expectations because. I knew of having the career that you had. I mean, you played 14 years. Yes, yes, indeed. But when that time came and I was able to go to the compound, it changed because I'm

like, they're giving me that opportunity. Now it's up to me to take advantage of this opportunity. Only I can fail. So once I got there, I knew I didn't want to leave. I love where I was at. Like you said, your jokes get funny or you get a little cuter. You know what I mean? Everybody's out kicking their coverage.

Indeed. Yeah. Everybody's out kicking their coverage. I didn't want to lose that. And then, you know, 14 years later, and then at the end of my year, I can tell, oh, man, this may be it. What's next? And how were you feeling? You were, again, three-time pro bowler.

You made good contracts. 14 years. You didn't think you would probably end off of the hip-drop, broken leg tackle. Like, I'm sure even you had, like, anxieties when it's coming to an end. Of course. You know, like, after having this injury, that anxiety went up higher. because I knew once the doctor told me like, gosh, you're pushing 37, you're not going to heal is like you used to.

So that was a big factor when he told me that. I kind of was like, damn, why did he just tell me that? You know what I mean? Because I'm thinking I'm about to come back, bounce back just like I always did. But he was like, you got to think about it's going to be a little different for you. Your heal process is just a little different. And then now it sat in. Reality set in.

After that fourth game, I'm like, God damn, my leg hurt. Oh, it's not healing. it's not feeling better. You know what I'm saying? So now I got to start thinking about what's next. What's the next chapter? Did I think I was going to get cut? No.

You know, sometimes you feel like a lot of stuff that you do for the organization and teams that they may overlook some things, but when you're making a lot of money, it's a business. And I know like, okay, we got to figure out a way to either make him take a pay cut or get rid of them. And, you know, I didn't know what was in my bucket. But when that time came, yeah, I was terrified. I was scared even though I made money is still a point of you're young. How much, how long

would this money last you? You got to cut a lot of stuff out. You got to change your life a little bit. And that's the sad part. Some people can't do that because they want to live that lie. They want to still act like they got money. They want to still like they on top. Because when you've been in a college level

or the NFL level, you have so much giving to you. You have so much told to you. You are looked up by your family members, your friends, that community you came from, that you don't even know how to tell them, oh, I'm doing, I'm doing bad. I'm not good with money. I don't know how to do this.

I don't know how to control this. I don't know how to speak to somebody about my emotions. These are things that as athletes, it's very tough for us to do. And the results are terrifying. If you don't mind, obviously you don't need to say any names, but you talk with guys all the time that go through, like,

lot of this transition and identities that were, you know, a lot of, for most guys, like, yeah, 14 years, you kind of knew, okay, business kind of takes over. You go from Superstar to now you're going to tryouts and realizing like, damn, man, I ain't got, people know me as Delaney Walker, but obviously I'm beat, you know, it's just different now. I'm getting in these lines running these route, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But for a lot of guys, like, you just don't even get a call again. I know.

And then you're on the phone with dudes who are struggling, like talk about some of those. That's the tough part because, you know, day. When we reach out to them, they're not expecting it. They don't know why we're calling them. It's just we give them a call. And sometimes, you know, I feel like they've been waiting on that call. They've been waiting on a call. If it's not from a teammate, from a person who played in the level, somebody who's been where they've been,

they wait on that call. Because it's almost like players is almost like owners in some spec. it's like once we stop playing with that guy, we don't communicate with them. It's like, what have he done with for me lately? Why would- Yeah, that's the business. That's the business. And it almost trickles down to the players because then we don't even communicate with guys we play with.

We call brother, we love, we die with. You get what I'm saying? If we die, we die. Like, we don't even call them dudes that we been in the trenches with. And it's always too late. You know what I mean? When we hear, oh, man, he killed itself. or man, he in a mental hospital or he doing really bad.

Like this, them are the times where we'd be like, damn, I should have called them. But why we can't do that just as friends, as brothers, as players, and that's where I feel like we don't do a good job at all as a whole as football players as an organization because these are things we need to do. We have to reach out to players because we do not know how players are feeling, how they're doing because they're not going to tell you. you. No, you get to a point of like being probably like embarrassed or ashamed

and you're not going to want to reach out. Like you were saying, like admit to being vulnerable. Like, hey, I have no fucking clue what I'm doing right now and it's not going well. And half of us don't like doing that. We don't want to be embarrassed, especially by our peers. Or to him to find out like, oh, you made this much money and you broke. Like, that shit hurts. You know what I mean?

So they will keep it down, keep it inside where they can't swallow it no more. And the only way they know that they can get money for somebody or they got to die or they got to go down that road. And it's just tough, man. You know, dealing with players and talking to players and just hearing some of the things, it's just, sometimes it's tough. And it's a bad situation. But again, that's why I'm a legend coordinator.

We're trying to change that stigma. We try to make sure guys know they can reach out to players like myself, other players, just if you need someone to talk to, because sometimes it just feel better for a player to talk to another player. and not a dude with a suit. You get what I'm saying? Right, right, right. Then they know you can understand

because we all went through something. We all had some type of fucked up, up and down, that we can experience that that person may relate to that may change his point in thought on making a bad decision that day. Right. And then when it gets too late, like you said, guys don't want to talk about it,

but also they're not as equipped because to have the skill set to communicate everything else, because we identified our entire life, and careers as football players. It's like, you know, we obviously, we got to play a kids game and earn a lot of money and very grateful and all the greatest things. Like, we got to live out our dream. But when you're, say, I started playing in second grade with flag football and everything

else. And from my early age, I wanted to be an NFL player. I wanted to be this. Like, everybody wants to be a professional athlete. And for essentially, I don't know, I don't know how old we are in second grade. Let's just say like eight years old. Yeah. You go from eight years old all the way up to then I get out of college at 23.

For all those years, I'm identifying as getting to play this game for a short period of time, nine years, 30-something years old when that time ends. And my entire life, I've been wrapped up in the identity of a football player. And for most guys, again, you don't get that call or you get cut and you're still training. You kind of don't know when to let it go because you think you're going to get back in the league. And then when it's too late, you kind of just, whether you're embarrassed or shame, whatever it is, but you didn't pour into those skills that help you adapt and transition to that next, to that next aspect of life. And I feel like, guys, that's why it's so important to take everything serious and not just football. It's like Dion, he was just going on in on his team about being lazy

in class, being disrespectful to the teacher. And he was kind of going in it, but giving them game, like this is not, you guys don't realize the reality of this situation is only a few of you guys are going to play maybe a couple depending on what locker room you maybe none yeah like you might get a crack at go being on drafter get a crack at doing a rookie minicamp or or this that but you're going to have to transition and go on to the next thing and if you're not taking advantage of but now like on scholarship with all the resources and support these these colleges have for the athletes now especially with nil money it's like i was talking to somebody out at practice and we brought up the ESPN 30 for 30 broke it's like 70 to 80% of football players will be bankrupt within five years out of league.

We're talking about grown men that make a lot of money. Now you're making this money as a college kid. Like, don't act like and pretend that you're going to have it all figured out or you're figuring it out with your NIL money coming in, whether it's taxes, whatever the case may be. So you need to do everything you fucking can to pour into those resources you do have because the game ends. And I'm telling you, it doesn't matter how long you play. You were kind of alluded to it with your, you had an incredible career. But the doubt and everything that kind of creeps in of like, you know, what am I going to do next? I've been saying all this.

Do I want to do real estate? Do I want to coach? Don't want to do this. I got podcast and written down and stuff. And I'm glad that this has worked out. But it wouldn't happen unless like the intention of like being serious of, hey, this is going to end soon. I really got to start figuring this shit out and do not wait until it's too late. And it's funny.

You say that because as NFL players, we can. kind of have that thought. But at college players, that's not even a thought. No. They don't even think about that because in their mind is, I'm a football player. I'm going to the NFL. And it's a shocker. When they don't go, it's a shocker. And that's the tough part because now NIL deals, these cats are getting money like, like you said,

Dion talking about disrespecting the teachers, not being lazy in class. They already think they pay. They already think they're celebrities. They got commercials. they getting paid. Like, in their mind, it almost takes away from really being a student athlete. Because you're still a student athlete. Not an athlete at school.

You are a student. You know, the saying, too, is like student athlete. Like, you're there. Hey, student athlete comes first. You're student first. But everybody kind of knows the underlying tone. Like, we're here to be athletes. We're here to be athletes.

And that's where they go wrong. And, you know, I'm in that same boat. I should have took now, you know, obviously I'm older and I experienced a lot. Sometimes I wish I would have took school more seriously, you know what I mean? I found a major that really would have worked for me after school because most of us choose a major just so we can get good grades to play sports because, again, like you said, sports is our identity. We want to be football players. We assume we're going to play in the NFL because we go to Nebraska. We go to Georgia.

We go to Alabama. They assume I'm getting drafted just because, you know what I mean? I play for this school. But the sad story is it doesn't work that way. It don't work. And then when you don't have nothing to fall back on, all you can do is talk about your glory days. Well, when I was here, when I did this. But what's you doing now?

Right. And then that hurts. You know, that hurts when you hit somebody that because now you being real, instead of keeping their ego up like yeah you was a beast you was dead but that was 20 years ago yeah like what you're doing now yeah like what have you done to make you more talkable now right but you see players they don't understand that and then when you do be real with them they may cut you off for being too real because you're like oh he too real he's being too honest with me I need someone to kind of help me live my glory days.

And I come across a lot of people like that too. And, you know, I'll try to be as honest as I possibly can. Like, shit, it's over with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, come on, man, what you got going next? But again, you got to kind of kind of know who you're talking to. You got to fill them out because this is a tough subject. And as we've seen, you know, players is taking their life left and right.

And it's a... Because there's been a couple over there's a couple over there. the years where somebody's in prison. You're like, hey, so-and-so, so-and-so, seeing if anybody can get him a phone, he just got out of prison, he wants to communicate, blah, blah. And it's just like, man, what in the... Robbing people, doing frauds.

It's because, again, you know what I mean? It depends on what level you was at. Imagine being in the NFL, you was making hundreds and thousands a week to get cut. You'll never find a job like that, where you get to go out, play a kid's game and get a hundred and some thousand dollars check a week. they look for that edge. I need that fast money.

I can't work for somebody for $50,000 a year doing all this crazy work. The stand after work, doing, putting in the hours. They don't want to do that. Right. Because in football. And whether they want to listen because people come in and kind of talk with it. Like you're on that side of it now with the PA. How many times are people coming in and it's right after practice and you're just thinking like,

all right, hurry this fucking meeting versus like understanding that, hey, this is actually useful shit. You're going to need it. You're going to need it when it's all said it done. And it's so crazy, like, because they do this every year. We know I've been sitting, we used setting the rooms, I send in the room. They try to feed you all the information they can because they know they're on our time. Right. And we want to go.

And they try to do their best jobs. Even though we give them, we hassle them. They try. We give them hell. We give them hell. And they only trying to do, they try to cram a two-hour, two-hour information into 45 minutes. because us. It's because of us.

It's not the coaches. Because what the stats show, yeah. Because what's the data says, like, y'all need to fucking, yeah. We need this. You'll be, your mind will be blown. When dudes retired,

they don't know how to access anything and everything they done gave to us. All these numbers, all these emails. No one writes them down. No one cares because they, like, that ain't me. They think it lasts forever.

They think it lasts forever. I'm going to be in NFL. Or they just think they don't need it yet. Because I like to think I'm up to speed with some of the education. But there's been times where you're telling me something, oh, damn, we can do that. Oh, damn, we can do that? And you just don't know all the resources that are available. And there's so many.

It's so many. And I was bad at it too because I was the dude like, hey, speed this up. Because I was a leader on the team. So I'm like, yo, speed it up. Like, get it. Let's get it over. We've got to be back up here in six hours. Yeah.

So, you know what I mean? I look back and when I talk to them guys, I'd be like, I always say, I'm sorry because I was that guy. You know what I mean? And I didn't get all the information that I needed. But luckily, the NFL reached out to me and now I see all the information that's out there. And I kind of be like, God damn. Damn, we got to change the way we think as players. Just because we want to go home, we don't want to hear the information that benefits us.

Right, because we're thinking whether it's recovery or just going home to get on the game, whatever it is. Whatever it is. because motherfuckers ain't going home to get on the playbook. We know that. He's trying to go home and get something else. But, you know, hopefully, you know, that changes. We're trying to figure out ways to make it more where guys can take it in. We try to make it where they can take all the information that they need,

but give them time to feel like they have their own time. Yeah, it's a how do you get this information? How do you deliver in a way that can get the, them sparked and interested. Yeah. Versus like, yeah, we got to get in and get out of this thing. Well, now, I just tell them money, man. You're leaving money on the motherfucking table.

Yeah. Anytime you don't listen to us, when we give you information, you're leaving money on the table. You know what I mean? dudes I spoke to that didn't even access a line of duty because it was too late. They didn't know how. I didn't know when. That was the one thing you was telling me about that.

I'm like, oh, yeah, I got to fucking get on it. You got to access it before it runs out. They have a timeline. on the line of duty. And cats do not know that. They didn't even know that when they got out the lead. They could have been getting the check for seven years. And they struggled for those seven years.

And then they hit me like, man, my boy told me he was getting line of duty. How can you help me? I'll be like, run me your name. And then I run that name. And they be like, oh, he missed it. I'm like, how the fuck I'm supposed to tell him that? You know what I'm supposed to sit here and tell this, man. He just missed out on seven years worth of money.

Yeah. When he's telling me he's doing bad and he needs help. And then I can't do nothing about it because they're like, well, he missed it. That's not on us. I'm like, God damn. It just, the thing is, too, like, ultimately, for everybody, like, it's more common than you think. It's more common. It's way more common. It sucks and it's sad because we're in such an incredible spot.

Yep. For however long it gets to be, it's a short period of time. But again, whether you're sitting at a D1 university on full scholarship right now, playing any sport, whatever it is, you're a young athlete and you're in a position to take advantage of resources and you don't do it. Yeah. Then it's too late. But it also falls under categories, though. You've got to have three to four years under your belt. I mean, plain.

That's NFL. Like, if you're fortunate enough to even make it to the next level, you to access even the benefits, you've got to get to three or four years. But there's still resources available. Like, I remember when I was on P-Squah, like, I would still get to listen and everything. Like, I couldn't access 4-1K or nothing else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're still trying to, like, take down whatever it is. Whatever you need.

You should get all that information. I'm just doing the team squad for one year, like. But it's funny you say that the practice squad guys take down more information than anybody. Because it could be, this could be the only time we're getting any of this little bit of money. There you go. And it's sad because they have the most information to try to access everything. But it'd be like, damn, you only play two. credited seasons.

Oh, I know. Damn. Like, it hurts because they really do all the research. They have all the information. And then it's just be like, why can I access this? I'm like, look, how many credited seasons? Fuck. You still got a clean.

I'm like, damn. Either didn't get it or hey, you got a couple more. Like, you got to make the team. You got to get two more, bro. Like, are you? But, you know, again, they do have resources, but you don't get them benefits that you will get if you did three or four years credited season. And would that change?

No, the NFL ain't dumb. They know half the people won't get to four years. They don't want to be paying everybody who steps foot in the NFL. You made because you probably was there for 10 days. Yeah. And you think you're going to go get a line of duty? Like, no. Like, you get what I'm saying?

So sometimes you got to be realistic. Yeah. You get some cats that would be like, I was there. I got hurt. I mean, did you play a game? Yeah. Pre-season it, that ain't in game. At least, man, take advantage of the place, the opportunities that we get

because we get such a head start on life. Yeah, and we piss it away. We do piss it away. And we see, we're starting to see a lot. And obviously not everybody, but it is more common than we all want to sit here and admit. Way more common. Even on times when I'm not, you know, I was talking about the line of duty earlier, I'm unaware of something that happens.

I just think to myself like, fuck, man. How did I miss that? Like, you feel kind of dumb. Like, man, what was that? What am I doing? Yeah. Why am I not taking time to really try to turn over every stone before it's too late? And they got sites.

They got apps. Right. We don't access none of them. They come here and be like, download this app. You see, no one does it. No one. They be like, hey, download this app. Okay, all right.

Yeah, they'd be like, cool, cool, cool. No one downloads. Because if you download that app, it will tell you how much 401K got you got, when can you access is how much this, this, that. Yeah. What benefits you can access with your credited season?

But that's what my calls are. I call dudes like, bro, we don't see you on the app. You've been retired for four years. Get on it. Oh, man, what's the app? I'm like, bro, I'm going to send you the app again. I emailed you. I did this.

The NFL emails everybody. I'm sure you still, you get stuff from the NFL. Yeah. And unfortunately, sometimes I just glance and I don't pay the attention that I need to be attending to it. That's the comments. I get people.

I'm like, I emailed you. Can you send it again to put it back at the top of my inbox? You're trying to scroll in front. I can't find out. You sure you sent it? Like, bro, I fucking sent it. We sent it. Mitch, you've been talking to Taylor.

We're actually, that was a necessary conversation. Because some of this stuff, you just get surprised by the situations these athletes get into and you're just like, man, take advantage of where you're at.

Take advantage. You legit don't know. It is going to end at some point. It's definitely. And it's going to end sooner than you think. Oh, yeah. Where, like, even getting the play as long as I did, it still ended sooner. It still was like, oh, damn, that was in college over a decade ago.

Yeah. Some people shake on hand. I'm looking at the cat who was sitting in my seat. I'm like, I sat right fucking there. The wind in Nebraska, that cold wind that hit you in the mouth, walking to the lunchroom. I know what, I know that feeling motherfuckers. But some of them dudes, that's the only feeling they going to get is Nebraska.

They won't make it to the lead. But you was just there. You see everything that you can access while you're there. Yeah. You see all the people. treat you like what you could all everybody you can get to know the network you can build but a lot of people don't like taking advantage of those type of situation they feel like oh i'm changing i'm this i'm being well they want to be all poured into plan a which again it isn't a bad thing but at the same time

you still got to you still got to be weary of all shit can change very true we got the boy zooming in or uh face timing in oh man thanks in your seat bray no i was fucking we we might got to do a content thing with Delaney where he just gives three things that NFL players can access. Just a quick... Smart, yeah. 60-second digestible video.

Oh, yeah. Maybe they'll catch it on Instagram. Scrolling. Oh, damn, I can do that? DM Delaney Walker. No, don't DM me. NFL, baby. I remember...

What's up? That's fine. Whenever you get them on, just let us know. How long do you have for Line of Duty to access it? I want to say, I think you have seven years, seven or eight years, I think you have. Seven year window. Yeah, seven, eight year window.

It's generous. Generous, bro. Yeah, dog, the benefits program, if you get vests and everything else, we have an incredible retirement program. No, we do. But even just even thinking about how important it is to take your craft on and off the field seriously at a young age. Like, I'm talking these college students, like hearing the Dion stuff,

thinking about the Kenny Wilson stuff. I remember Bo had us in a meeting because dudes are sleeping in class. and Bo, he had a list because all the teachers would email him. He had a list. He'd be like, Ricky to Nars, sleeping in class, he'd stand up, chew his ass out.

Like, guys, I'm not here to babysit you. You're going to do it all the time or you're going to do it none of the time. You don't just show up on Saturdays. Yeah. I'm not here to hold your fucking hand. Like, we had class checkers. Us too.

All of it, bro. He'd be like, I didn't come here to win nine fucking games and chuck a water bottle at the wall. Like, chew us out, bro. Like, the same stuff they're like Dion's sitting there preaching because that stuff is so, real. I mean, but that also carries on, like, what you do

as an athlete carries on to that, to the program. Like, if they're seeing you doing that, that makes, look, that makes, that make Deion look bad. Because it's like, was Deion not policing his students? Is he not policing his athletes? So I get that. Like, because I remember one time when I got yelled

at in school, I'm like, shit, let me, let me turn around. You're supposed to be a star player, you fell in classes. I'm like. When you're a coach that sits in all these homes and tells that their parents are entrusting you to lead them the right way. Sometimes you got to, you got to be hard.

You have to be hard. You have to be hard. You have to. Because, yeah, when I sat at your table, yeah, I laugh jokes to get you here. You here now.

Yeah. Yeah. It's time to turn his shit up. Get. There he is. There you go. Out of my seats. Okay,

I thought we're going to have to do that the whole time. The boys. The boys. Before you, we got all. I said, thanks for the seat,

guy. What's the boys been up to you, huh? We're traveling. We were just in Nebraska. It was a great trip. I mean, you know Nebraska, bro. By the way, your eyes look amazing. Thanks, dude.

The reason why I was so late is because I was setting up some lighting to my beautiful view to make sure that you could say that will compliment to me. So thank you. It's a nice little room you got there. You got something nice? Right there? Those sheets have been through hell. You got sunburn on your face? What's that?

No, dude, that's white people's skin, brother. That's how it works. We get pink, then we get tan, Delaney. You don't know about that. Damn right. How is it out there? How is it out there in the jungle? Dude, it's, I'm starting to get to the point where I'm ready.

I'm ready to come home. Oh, yeah. The first couple of weeks, it was like super exciting and new things were happening left and right. And now I've like kind of gotten to the point where like, I'm like, I'm getting better at what I'm doing. So I like, it's not as like stressful anymore. And therefore, I'm, like, I'm, like, I'm, like, I'm just getting a poikito board.

A poikito. How's your Spanish? How's your Spanish coming? I see, I see. You know, I go, dude, I tell you what, I was actually just down at the breakfast spot here. And I get the same thing every day. Arrosi, pollo, for those you don't treat Spanish, that's chicken and rice. And the problem with the people in Mexico City is when you say one good, like, one nice little snippet of Spanish,

they all of a sudden think, oh, this boy's got it. and they start ripping and just start rolling their hours everywhere. So I've been having a hell of a time down here just trying to get anything done. So, or do you have to speak Spanish the whole time or you can speak English most of the time? I mean, I'm in, Delaney,

I'm in the weirdest, like, cultural situation in my entire life. Like, half of the people, literally there's one other American out of 400 people at this entire thing. and then like the other 199 are Mexican and the other 200 are British. So literally

I'm just getting peppered with like British lingo and I'm getting peppered with Mexican Spanish lingo. So it's like it's a different world man. It's a completely different world. Do you find yourself your accent changing up every now and then around the Brits? Yeah, yeah, of course. You know Jerry Ainswell if he comes out a little bit, how we do, love you all right?

Yeah. Oh, what we're doing today? All right, let's do that and then we'll do this, yeah? Okay. And actually, there's been a couple of British guys, but hey, mate, your accent's pretty good, actually. You should work on that. It's nice. Hey, it does sound like it is. Yeah, you've been practicing.

Bro, I've been practicing. There's this dude named Josh. And if I could just explain Josh to everybody, if they just close their eyes real quick, if you took somebody, put about 50 to 60 pounds on Johnny Depp, and then put them in a room and made them watch only Pirates of the Caribbean movies for like three years. This is this guy.

He's got that suave, charismatic. He also sounds like the dude from Flight of the Concord's. Like, and he's like, he's the dude that's kind of like running the floor of everything we're doing. And this dude, he's the fucking man. But he's like, he's like a Jasonamoa, Johnny Depp mix with an art. He lives in Argentina, but he was born in Britain. He's got this very unique cocktail of a voice. It's beautiful.

Are you able to tease anything that is happening that? Because I know, hey, listen, we'd be dumb if we didn't see somebody heat that the boys been taking about all the, the spring door and everything else and it just sucks that we're not able to I'm just like hey I'm telling you like it's it's dope it's gonna be dope it's gonna be dope you know what the problem is with catching all this heat is is when I start

catching the heat I'm like you know the thing I'm doing it's not as cool is when it comes out we might be having it too much now I'm like I'm telling you I'm telling you yeah I know he too I'm like Equalizer forward like obviously people be like yo this dude's doing a movie he's doing this he's doing that cool

I always say it was like some dope. But it was that, I'd be like, hey, you guys will find out. Don't worry. But it's not as cool as a movie. I can tease that. It's not scripted. I'll say that. It is, it's, it's, uh, it dude, it is cool, though.

I think like this thing that I'm doing, it's so, it sucks so bad. Not being able to just say what I'm doing because, you know, you know how NDA's work. You know how this, this world works. Yeah. But like, it is, uh, it's just a unique thing that I've never done before. and it's been a lot of fun. Any idea of the time, like whether it's at any point this year, we might be able to start talking about or is it we got to keep our mouths shut until.

This is like a Q2 of 25. Damn, geez. So we'll get to do the spring tour next year and get to playing the jokes that you'll actually be on the spring tour. We still won't even know what's happening, what happened at this point. I know, but I do want, thank you for the opportunity to once again apologize to the fans. Dude, what a shitty job I did about being transparent with the fans. Just all of a sudden, ninja smoked everybody and dipped out of here.

What a terrible look. We handled it very poorly. We handled it very poorly. Here's what we did do. We took for granted how loyal our audience is and treating them like a partner in this whole thing, thinking like, okay, this will be, you know, this will just be easy. You know, we've done episodes without it before. We've had to switch stuff up before.

Like, surely we won't have the backlash that we did face. Yeah. And I think you. and I just reflected back on like when I was playing football. I was like, oh, Tilly didn't really do the podcast for like six months at a time. No one's going to care about this. And you're right. I think we, I keep saying we, it's truly me.

Like you, this is where, ladies and gentlemen, you're getting a perfect dose of why I will contemplated 15 years in the NFL. Locker room guy. Just always falling on the sword. Oh, Rashad Evans, he missed a tackle. We missed a tackle. That's what he's talking about right here. I, listen, I fucked up.

I should have done a better job of telling the people, listen, I'm going to do this thing that I can't really talk about. I'm not going to be on the spring to it for the first couple of stops. But I will be at University of Alabama. I can announce that. Yes, yes, sir. You're still going to come, though, right? I think it would be fun.

Hey, Taylor, one thing that we found to be successful as Coach Rule, he joined us. And I posted a couple photos. I don't know how much you've gotten to see from Nebraska, but they had the chair set up and we kind of sat down and ran like, a little podcast and had conversations. It was really cool with Coach Ruhle. Like he's telling stories and you could just tell the, I don't know, I liked it a lot.

So to the point of Delaney coming, I just feel like we could have some good conversations with the boy or whoever might be joining us. I mean, it's whatever y'all want. I just don't, you know, I know it works better. I mean, when y'all interview the coaches and stuff, y'all do the live show, I can always come on a stage with the live show. But I feel like when y'all do the interview,

it kind of works better with two, with just y'all too. especially like I'll be the live show you could come for the fun no that's what I'm saying yeah yeah yeah yeah because I feel like the interviews I mean I'll come and do all of that stuff with y'all but I think when y'all do that sit down the two with the interviews it kind of works with the two you know what I mean yeah we could go uh Taylor and I for the interviews and Jack we could find the role for Delaney he could be the question guy for like the social media stuff hit him with like the fun questions with the athletes yeah I mean something like that Whatever. Either way, I think it would be a good trio.

What Delaney's saying right now does make sense because it can get even hairy with just me and you will sometimes like two people, two chefs trying to make a pot together is very difficult, let alone three. Delaney would feel a couple times. Yeah, but Delaney, to be totally honest to you, I don't, I don't care if you do anything. I just want you to go to Alabama because I want a classic LeWan Walker Knight. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to get thirsty with the boys. I'm trying to get out there, be in Tuscaloosa, talk a little trash to the frat boys about how they couldn't beat the University of Michigan. They get mad, I pull back and then start giving them compliments. So we start doing this little wave thing with each other. Then all of a sudden we're throwing up in a parking lot. That's where I want.

I feel that. I'm with all of that. That's why I say I'll definitely come for sure because I want to see how they turn up in Alabama. We'd be in the interviews, Taylor. And, you know how sometimes I'll like ask something, then when my brain will just start to slow down. and I would sit in the middle and then I would just look from the coach

or the player and then I would just turn to Delaney being like, well, Delaney. What you got? What you got? I'm like, okay, here we go. Yeah. Hey, Delaney, that's the thing with Will, man. Sometimes you get to catch flow state with Will

where you know you're the next question up. Yeah. But sometimes when Will sit in the middle, you just always have to be thinking in your head, what's the next question? Because as soon as that, as soon as that head starts to do this, you're like, ah, here we go. This is where we got.

Will and I have, we've established quite the situation where I'm starting to know Will and we'll start to know me. We're both like, hey, our brains aren't working anymore. We gotta figure the shit out. Well, that's how I'll be here.

I'll be on point when I see him by the turn, I jump on. But when I didn't have nothing, he'd be like, what you got? Yeah, I said that was... You know how a second goes off in my head? But one time, there wouldn't even be nothing after the second one off.

I'd just be like, Delaney, you got anything else? No, because you'll be like, um, what you got? I'm like, uh, yeah. So I know you did. You know what I mean? But it worked out. On the live show, though, he'd be like, I ain't got to entertain him.

I'm like, okay. He'll just do that. There's like 300 people looking in. You're like, you guys want to hear the story by my mom? Yeah. In a picture? They're just like, I don't know what to fucking say right now. Taylor off that the lady when she was handing me the mic, she's like, hey, no licking the mic this time.

And I was like, yeah. The mic last time she's like, remember that story that Taylor told us? Oh, yeah, it was. She's like, you lick it. I didn't lick it. She said, I took the photos last year. I have proof. I was like, oh, shit, you licked it.

Yeah, that photo did get out there, man. That photo did get out there. In the spirit of Buston with the boys, do you have any shout-out, no-free shout-outs? You have any segment-tops? Yeah, I got a shout-out, no-free shout-out. Let me think real quick, for whatever reason. I came on my show and just forgot about the things we do.

Dude, shout-out, no-free shout-out, Mexican street dogs. There. Fire. These fucking dogs, man, I literally, where we're doing this thing that I can't talk about, it's literally an hour and a half

outside of Mexico City, in the mountains. Like, we know about the sticks of Nashville, Tennessee, and the sticks of the south where it gets a little toothy. This is a whole different world, brother. This is like,

this is, it's crazy out here. But on every street corner, there's like three or four dogs, just kind of like essentially panhandling, asking for scraps. And I was looking, I was talking to some Mexican dude with some broken English,

and we eventually got to the point where he told me that these street dogs have now understood that they have to be good boys to get food. If you're not a good boy, you die. So literally every single street dog that I've met have been the nicest, like almost like out of the box, well-trained dogs I've ever met my entire life.

Like you think to yourself, you think to yourself like, Oh, did I live with you at some point in time and trained you to be this good? Dude, there's a dog named Peso. I named him Peso. And he is like this brown, probably we'll call him 35 pounds, short hair guy. He got some ouchy hips. And the first day I meet him, I feed him a little food.

And then he's like, we've established a little bit of a bond where when I get to set, he knows. He has like a six cents. He'll be outside my trailer. And then all of a sudden I'll open my doors up and he can't get up the stairs. So I'll pick him up and put him in my trailer. And I have like chicken breast for him. We hang out. This dude can sit.

He can stay. He can say, hey, so here. A key. And he comes over, no problem. Like, he is, dude, he's the sweetest boy in the world. He's such a sweet boy. You're not worried about ticks and shit and fleas. Street dogs, boy.

You know me, Daly. I'm a dirty boy. Hey, all right. I'm good with that. I do. I'll tell you what, every time I put my hands on that dog, I don't touch my face or nothing until I get some corrocks. because I did on accident one time

and I looked at my fingers and you know when you get like that grummy under the nails it was like immediately the minute I touched the dog my whole hand was just disgusting. So yeah yeah it's it scared me a little bit and people getting sick at here left right and center like people are getting like altitude poisoning food poisoning.

It's like we're on here fighting the good fight. Are you ever unsafe? Are you ever in any unsafe situations? I think I'm 60% safe every day at all times. 60%. Like, the place I'm staying in, it's like in a bad area. Like my driver, Miguel, who's an absolute beautician, speaks amazing English. He's like, yeah, I don't know why that put you guys in here.

Like, this place is not safe. So I do not leave the hotel. I come to my room, I go to sleep, I beat, and then I go catch a workout in the morning, and then I go all day and do whatever I'm doing on that, on, in the mountains. Yeah. They don't have armed security at the hotel. No, they got armed security. Bro, if we, the things we're doing, if we go past 10 p.m., we have an armed caravan drive us back to the hotel hour and a half.

Oh, my goodness. We were driving. So we, like, literally like, the way we travel is, is, like, asphalt to gravel that's, like, been drawn on, drove on three times. Like, there's, like, these huge divvits and whole, like, the car might break down at any moment type stuff. And then you start to get into the city and there's always one turn with this gas station

and one day there was like 40 cop cars. And I'm like, yo, what's going on over there? To Miguel, my boy. And he's like, oh, probably a shooting. Those happen a lot around here. The cartel is really big in this area. I'm just thinking, what am I fucking doing here?

I know. I feel like Taylor would be a target. He's like 6-7. Look at this American guy. He's got a Rolex. Yeah, if he's got his chains and stuff on, he could easily be. Come on.

You roll your, but you didn't bring the roly. Oh, you know he's got the roly somewhere. I got the roll. I wear that watch every single day. Oh, you know, you're walking target. Yeah. You're walking target. Yeah.

You definitely, oh, you crazy. Yeah, how are you doing? It was a little heavy when I picked it up, too. Don't want to brag, don't want to brag. How's it been being a, being away from the fam? I know it sucks. Talk about being a FaceTime. I'm dad right now because I was at your Easter party.

By the way, great Easter party, I know you saw your boy take the gold. Hopefully, we'll have to check the tape, but gold or silver in the sack race. How's it been being a dad? Have we decided, before I get to my family, have we decided whether or not you won that? Because when I was a phone with Taylin, she said you lost by a hair, but you looked like an elegant dolphin out of the water and sea world when you were, when you were floating across the ground. She got to see the kid who was like, God started to get a little scared when I started

to really pick it up. She had a good spot. It hasn't been talked about, but I truly feel like I might, I would have edged that out if we, it feels like a professional. I think he beat you. You dove at the end. He was coming across. You can dive. You can dive. I did almost like that kid out here. But my family, listen, my family is so annoyed with me calling. Every time I mean, Will, we, we've talked to the phone. Like, my cell service is not great. Luckily, this is working out for whatever reason right now. I thought this is going to be a horrible situation. But when I call, I literally, on days like today, I don't shoot till like nighttime.

And so I'll shoot from like, I have to leave here at five. I'll get done at like 11 p.m. But like from now till five, I got nothing to do, like in nowhere to go. So I'll call my family like 30 times a day. And eventually it turns like, listen, we do miss you. But brother, we're doing stuff too. It's just like. You're like, set me by the tree.

just set the phone down by the tree. Just let me watch. Oh, literally. Tell him will be like, all right, honey, we're going to go do X Wednesday. Just put me in your pocket, sweetie. Like, I'm just going to roll with you guys for a little bit.

I think I'm going to come home and my family's no longer going to miss me. Like, they're going to be like, all right, I would have seen enough of you. We've seen you. Thank God you're home just so you don't have to call us 30 times today. Right, right, right. But it's been hard. Like, if it was up to me, I would be doing the thing I'm doing from like 7 a.m.

to 10 p.m. every night. That way I don't think about it. Because days like today when it's like, I have nothing to do until later in the afternoon, it sucks because you just sit there and you're like, you know, I miss Taylor and I miss the two girls and they're in Canada. And I'm like, damn, I just wish, you know, all the Easter party happens. And then this happens. And then, oh, look at Willow, look how big she's getting it. It's like, how is she growing this much in just a couple of weeks?

And then I get sad boy. Yeah. You know, I get sad boy on the bed by myself. And I'm like, man, and the boys out there, oh, no, now they're in Alabama or now they're in Nebraska. our rule, who's a beauty. He's with them. Delanylose he's having a good time. So did I just get in this like,

this sad boy type of situation? Yeah, I bet, dude. But hey, I know you're crushing it out there. You're throwing a Lucy? Uh-huh. You like him of Lucy's? Lucy has been the only thing that's been keeping going. And also, I know everyone's always like, the ads, the ads.

This shirt, dude, this is a true classic. XL long. And I'm wearing some sweatpants here, but look how long that is. Bro, talk about how comfortable they are. And it's like, do you see my shoulders? You tell me. Yeah.

Like I feel like I'm not even wearing a shirt, but it grabs my chest and lets a little bit out in the tummy, which is really nice for me. Sometimes you need to put your boy in an exhale, it's very difficult. But bro, these shirts are unbelievable. And they're making me 36, 36 pants right now, which I can't wait because you know I wear like the same.

two pairs of pants every single day. It's going to be nice to have a new, a new setup. So these, yeah, but these shirts are incredible. They're so comfortable. I get compliments all the time on them. Yeah, all of the time. I'm rocking a true classic as well right now. We've got to get Delaney in the mix. We've been telling them about it. You know, they sent us like 3,000 to give out in Nebraska. They're all about, they're all about passing them out. They're a free QR code. I'm telling everybody in line like, hey, literally free shirts. Yeah. Free shirts. Yeah. Free shirts. Yeah. Free shirts. What could you ask for with that with a free shirt? That's ridiculous. Right. One thing too. Now, shooting slips and picks. I know I'm jumping way back to the fall. Delaney said he's got about 100 snaps left in him. We all disagreed. I saw you guys in Nebraska do an inclined run. Yeah. And I think for the first time of my life, I saw a black guy get beat by a white guy. When have you ever seen me be a conditioning guy? That was like a conditioning. A conditioning guy.

What are you talking about? How many reps are 20 yards? We do. We did two. We did two reps. Delaney. We did two reps. You said you could have 100 reps in the NFL. Running. You said you could go and suit up in the NFL and put a hundred stamps, but you can't do. You can't go up a hill twice. You got to see this hill. It goes, it goes higher.

Look after it goes up. He saw the video. He didn't see the whole thing. He's good. I saw the training. And at the end of the day, he barely won. I had on heavy sweats. I had on Air Forces that was not tied.

My man tied his shoes right before that because I thought it was him and coach was supposed to get down. Now. Delaney, I've seen you. Listen, listen. We're going to run it again. We're going to run it back in Oregon. We're going to run something in Oregon. I mean, I don't know about Oregon. I'm just saying we're going to run something. 2015. Maybe not Oregon, but. Delaney. 2015. Yeah.

We're in New England. Zach Mettenberger throws a shallow cross to you over the middle. You end up stiff-arming two guys, hurtling guys, and out running a DB into the end zone. Of course. We lost that game by 28 points, but that was the highlight of the season. We only won three games. You're washed up. It's over, bro. You can't play 40 years old.

I'm 40 years old. I will always like, you know how it's like, hey man, I hope I'm never in a wheelchair so my kids don't see me in this way. I want them to always view me as a strong man. As my brother in arms, who I've gone to war with, I'll always view you as that Delaney Walker. But this Delaney Walker. It's old.

It made you sad. You're too slow. You're not strong enough. He came out and being truthful like, yeah, what I'm taking got me right. I'm like, I've seen it. You got them over the top. It's good. And I just still.

I see you. And, you know, I still got some juice. You know what I mean? Yeah, you turned it on because I was like, ooh. Hey, I feel what Taylor's saying too. Like, I was almost sad when I beat you. Like, damn, Delaney. We won in one, see.

I out jumped you, vert higher than yours. You beat me up a hill climb. I give you that. It made me sad. We get, we hill climb. Next time we're doing coverage. That's easy. We just look up to you, man.

I know, but we're going to do coverage, though, Taylor. And you can be the quarterback for Alabama. We're going to do it in Alabama. Taylor be the quarterback. We're going to play both ways. You cover me once. I cover you once. So we got both opportunities.

Okay. Well, first off, You don't want me to be the quarterback. I'll be the coach. You don't want to be the quarterback? No, you know, I can't throw a ball like that. Like, I want, I want to be fair for y'all. Okay.

And so I want some, let's just get the actual Alabama quarterback in there. Ooh, yeah, that'd be fun. That'd be good. That'd be good. I'm about to route you. I'm about to bring shorts. Watch, you think I'm playing. I came, I was unprepared.

That's you. That's, that's your shit talking. Will goes, I'm about to route you. You go, I'm going to wear shorts. He ain't rowing nothing if I got on some. If I got on some clothes, man. If I got on some clothes, you ain't doing none of that. If I got on some clothes, dude, act like he had 10 pounds of gear on.

I had on them heavy-ass sweats. I couldn't even get no heavy-ass sweats, bro. Bruh, I couldn't even get no leg bend in them things. Hey, Will, it's always hard to watch these football players, man, after it's over and they still got it. This is like you said, this is Delaney Walker. I don't have it. I know I could be Will. I don't have it.

Everyone thinks so. 14-year in the NFL, Delany Walker. broken ankle, G. Hit drop. Yeah, I saw that. I was there. I held you in my arms. No, you did not.

You did? Because I got knocked out. And then we had that long delay. Oh, yeah, you're right. And then when you broke your leg, I went in the x-way room. You're right. You're right. You're right.

And one of us was crying. Actually, both of us was crying. You're excited. And I held you right here. It's okay, brother. You're going to be fine. You're going to be fine, brother. You're right?

Because I forgot. We both was in there. Teared up. We was both hurt. You get what I was in? Yeah, yeah. I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, before Delaney broke his late, we were in that first little, like, I don't know, one hour delay. We were outside, and I, like, just got knocked out. And I was kind of, like, walking around. I was, like, out in, like, the area where you could, like, the fans could look down and see you. And one fan started yelling at me.

So I started yelling at the fan and started crying again. And Delaney's like, man, what you doing? Come here. He was going to grab me. Can brought me over? I was so sad. Hey, you don't say that. You start fucking breaking down and crying.

Yeah, I mean? When you say that point? Hey, you're not good. You're not good. I was ready to go home at that point. I did not want to play. We all were. I think we all, I think we were all like, man, I hope this storm takes us.

Takes it down. Man. I know. Nope. Seven hours later. Yeah. You ready to play? Yeah.

Oh, shit. I know y'all have talked about it and I hate to bring up other things with this hip drop rule. Yeah. Where do we stand? I'll start with you, Will. Oh, you know where I stand. I think it's a bad rule. I think it's because, in my opinion,

it's going to be something that continues to happen no matter what, because it's not an intentional thing. And I think at some point in the year, it's going to, like, cost, it's going to, like, be a call that costs, cost a game. Of course. Like, I get, like, you know, you got the fines. I understand that we don't want to tackle in there,

but it's not an intentional, it's not an intentional tackle. For me, it's just, like, targeting is, like, going high when they're doing all that stuff over the middle, like, yeah, You're picking your shot. But this one is like, you know, you get, I was telling Delaney, like, you get beat on a quick step. And all you're doing is trying to stop them from progressing forward anymore. That's it. That's it.

Even though it ended my career, I'm still, like, I'm against it. I don't think that it should be a rule. Again, it's football. You sign up for football. Back in the day, it was get the guy on the ground, however you had to get him on the ground. I remember in the high school, it was like, if you got roll his ankle, roll his ankle. It's almost like you're not trying to do it, but it happens in the game. I'm just trying to get you down.

And I feel like this is going to be a factor, like you said, that will change games. That will be the, this tackle will change winning games. I promise you that guys will have, be leading down the field. They're going to try to stop them so they won't get in field goal position. Get this tackle, 15 yards. Put them in field goal position in the game right then and there. That's where I feel like it's going to play a big part. and the outcome of a lot of games.

Yeah. It might be rare, but once it happens, it's going to be, you know, it's going to blow up. We'll see after this. I mean, they said it's only for one year, right? This rule is only going to be for one year. You know how that is. They'll stay. All new rules are under review.

Yeah. After one year. Yeah. I agree with both of you. Like, I hate seeing, obviously, like, Delaney, you're going down. Other guys talk to, we're, like, talking a lot about how this hurt me. I miss six weeks because of this. I'm happy this rule's gone.

I think it's dumb. I think it's like the what they want what they're trying to do is good like keep everybody safe. Right. But this is this is one of those things that's like you're, this is your signing up for this. Like you said, well, going high on a dude when he's not,

he's defenseless, those types of things, fully understand. It's always, I'm always going to look back at those early 2000s highlight videos of the NFL when they're showing the trailers and be like, damn, that'll never happen again.

But like with a hip drop, bro, the hip drop is like, it's going to be, it's going to cause, more problems than solutions. True. Yeah, because it's like, yeah, yeah, it's just going to be a tough rule. I do like the kickoff,

the new kickoff rule, though. I like the new kickoff, kickoff return rule. I mean, just- Yeah, explain to me that rule. Like, so how's it working? Essentially, like, the kickoff team starts at what, Mitch, the 45-yard line? Is it the 45? Yeah. And the kicker's now kicking off, you have to kick it in the landing zone. So if you kick it out of the end zone

or in the end zone, that's like, yeah, it's like a penalty against the kicking team. Or if it's, Right. If they do a touchback, like you kick it out of the end zone, they'll get their touchback will now be at the 35. But if you do one where it hits the landing zone and rolls into the end zone, right, that would be a touchback to the 20. To the 20, yeah. Yeah, that would be a touchback to the 20 if it's one of those. It's got to land in a certain spot.

You got like 25 yards. Right, and the kickoff team can't take off until the ball is fielded. Until he catch it. Right, right. So it'll be, I think it'll be more of like an offensive and defensive play. Like I was telling Delaney, I wouldn't be surprised if there's. there's like a couple starters in some of these situations, like running a play back there

because I think it'll be more of like a strategic play. It's one-on-one blocking throughout the hole. It's one-on-one blocking. Everybody has a man. You have to block them. If you have like a maybe not like your best linebacker, but if you have like a starting linebacker out there, like again, you're only covering for like 25 yards.

It's a faster play. Like even guys who are blocking, like, you know, not saying you, but maybe like an athletic old lineman or a really good blocking tied in that starts. that can block for like five seconds or a few seconds. It's like I could see those guys getting out there. But down to me, I feel like that's going to hurt our roster. Because if this does take off, now we don't need that many guys on a special team roster.

Because again, like you said, if we put starters out there, how does that hurt the guys that were just making a team for special teams, for kickoff purposes? I think it'll still be the same kind of cats. Like I think the guys who make it for special teams, those guys are, you know how they are. I mean, you were one before you became like a special teams. superstar tied in. Like, these are, you're, you weren't just because this rule comes in place doesn't mean some other, some linebacker was going to outplay you because you still turn on the film and you're still a demon.

Yeah, yeah. Covering kicks and blocking and everything else. So I still think those guys will be on there. You know, it could just be spotty to where you don't have to have like four core guys. Like you might just have one or two instead of, hey, if you're backup, you got to play on every special team. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, okay, that makes sense. But.

Yeah, and there's also like three other cores of the special teams, right? Punt, punt, return. Yeah. Yeah. You still got punt and punt return. Pum return defense really, you almost had your starters on Pum return too, though, pretty much. Yeah, I was not. In some situations.

Yeah, some situations. They didn't come out. I never got to be on Pum return because they said, Coach Alco would always say my arms are too short. Really? Yeah, bro, which I thought was so stupid. That was crazy. You got a little break.

You got short arms, though. Yeah, I do. I do. I do have short arms. I do. But, hey, thanks for joining us, bro. I'm glad we got you on. Yeah, I mean, shit. Delaney and I went for, I mean, we probably, how long we, we're at, we're at an hour 15 right now.

Oh, yeah. Who's up today? Who we got? Michael Bisbing. That'll be a fun one. That'll be a fun one. A great storyteller. He was chirping himself, chirping his eye.

His accent's incredible, too. Everyone's going to really enjoy it. Yeah, a lot of charisma. He's a fun. Yeah, he was, he was a fun interview. Which is, by the way, that's a key word with the British around here. They call it taris. Oh, you have Charis, mate.

Oh, you go on Max Carriz. right now. That seems like a nice little compliment. Maybe that's where Reese comes from. Yeah. They're out there doing their thing right now. Anyway, boys, I love you. I love you.

I love you too. I miss you guys. I cannot wait to be back. Hold you guys in my arms. Give you some love and go to Alabama with y'all. All right, brother. We love you too. All right, my guy.

See y'all. See you. Later. He says he loves and misses you, boys. What else do we got? What else do we got on here? Where's my... I got my little papers right here.

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But this is what he said and this is what he said. and this is what he wanted to ask on the problem. It's saying suspect, is it? Because they were saying some suspect shit. If you're coming to the Alabama Live Show or in Nashville when we do that one, like come correct. Go correct. I mean, it gets endless.

And listen, I understand the fan base that we've built, but it's all, it's too much about dick suck. Yeah, too much. Yeah. It's way too much. All right. This one's kind of, it's not in that realm, but it's kind of disgusting. Okay. All right.

Would you rather drink a cup of spit from someone who is chewing tobacco or make out with someone who has all of their teeth rotten. Oh my God. That is a good one, though. It's just bad either way. Give me. It's a drink after someone who's been dipping or spit. So basically drink a spit cup or make out of somebody with rotten teeth.

How much are you drinking? You say spit cup, all of, like, whatever their spit is. Oh. It's just bringing back a very bad memory because I accidentally took down, I started drinking my dad's I've actually done it too. That's why I'm asking. And I was so fucking mad. Oh, yeah.

Because it was, it was at my place where, when I was living off Charlotte, he had visited and he had like a, oh my God. And it's just sick thinking about it. I was so, like, just pissed off. Like, God damn it, you guys out there with your spit cups and everything else, you have to clean that shit up at all times. It should never be out there sitting loose. All day. And when I was in college, every cup on the table spit in it. Give me a skank, dude.

Let me make out with a skank I'm gonna follow lead I'm kissing rotten teeth Yeah Bad breath You mean somebody sitting outside of cheap smokes Looking for a little bit of cash Yeah

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Yeah Go hog hunting boys Oh That's my answer Yeah, I'm kissing a rotten mouth. What are you all doing? J.P., what are you doing? Skank? Yeah. I love how I was just hanging.

Make out of the skank, not even the rotten teeth anymore. Mitch? Is anybody hitting the spit cup? The reason I asked how much would make a difference because I have done it on an accident before? And no free shout-outs to Ethan Ross, but let's just say it's up to here. Ooh, that's too much. Is it like grainy? Like there's like...

It's like just more than... The long cuts in there, too? Yeah, he took. It's just a couple pieces. Yeah, yeah. Just a couple pieces. You throwing up. Oh, man.

Makes me sick thinking about it. It really does kind of make me a little. I've actually done it with that and like a cigarette ash cup. And that one was probably worse. Oh. I can only imagine. So which one you're going? Give me the skank.

Yeah. Yeah. Had a boy. But I don't think I like that one. Hey, did you see the, uh, a Jack? I'm, oh, making out. I've drank my own dip spit by accident while I was driving one time. And, like, even just your own spit is foul.

So thinking about another man's or woman's, if you're out there. It makes me nauseous thinking about that. It's just, yeah, it gives me the fucking chills. I don't even think I can just take a regular spit ball in the mouth. Like somebody just spit your mouth. Like a chick just spit. fit in your mouth. It depends on what kind of mood I'm in, maybe.

Wow. I would say no, but you just know. You know how you get a little animalistic when it gets a little crazy. Yeah, sometimes I can't do it. I can't do it. You nasty, bro. Everybody out there 99% of the time I would not do that. But Charo.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, fuck, dude. Jack just brought up, just brought up the notes again. Did you see the, uh, Stefan Diggs going to Houston? Number one, Houston's loaded. I told you Houston was going to be it. Without even the Diggs trade, but now with the Diggs trade, oh my God.

You got what, Diggs, Collins, Dale. Dale, oh. Noah Brown, John Metchy. Yeah, man. And then squad. Running back. Dr. Nixon, Damien Pierce. Yes.

Dalton Schultz. Yeah. Slow it calling it. DeFence. Coach Ryan, head coach. I mean, that's a. They're going to lose the squad. I'm not going to lie.

I hate to say this because you know what division I'm all about with God. I might have to put a futures on them right now. It's going to be tough. Do it. They probably lose. Might have to put a futures on it. He said, do it. They probably lose.

Help us out, Will. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was thinking about going Yukon to cover, but it was so big. I didn't feel like that would help out too much. And I was just honestly, if I would have been on both those games, I would have lost both. But do you?

Because you guys covered, right? Oh, maybe I would have won that one then. Do you think he wanted that trade or do you think the bills was just like we had enough? Well, what was that? Maybe what was that trade? Does anybody feel like they got a good? A little bit of both. A little bit of both.

Obviously, they've had their situation throughout the last couple of years that you've heard about. But because you saw somebody say, can Josh Allen win without an elite wide receiver? I want to say that whoever was tweeting about it was alluding to, yeah, he can still do it without a receiver. And Stefan replied underneath. Like, oh, you think so? Yeah. Kind of like, damn, that's what I'm saying.

What kind of relationship did they have? I feel like I don't really know. I don't know them personally. Because if you're, if that's your man, if that's your boy. You're not saying that. Yeah. You're not going to say that.

Or you might just say there's no doubt. You know, he's a, you might just say something like, meant nothing at all, probably. But if you said anything, you'd probably be giving flowers. I'd be like, no, he can definitely ball with any, he can spend with anybody. Right. You may not mean it, but you, you know, you're not going to shoot at him. Like, that's a shot.

Like, unfortunately, the business got in the way, but it had nothing. You're kind of putting out that fire or that flame, but he kind of went like. Josh Allen kind of was upset about the trade, though, felt like. I felt like he was more upset about losing him than he was upset about leaving. He also lost Gabe Davis like two weeks before that. Oh, yeah, that's true. He losing everybody. They're cats, man.

Trade up. Marvin Harrison. I think we'll see how. Oh, yeah, yeah, here. Yeah. Here it is. RG3 had tweeted, is Stefan Diggs essential to Josh Allen's success?

He has been since he got to Buffalo in 2020. They are better together. And if Stefan Diggs and Josh Allen stay together with the Buffalo bills this year, their championship window is wide open. And then somebody replied the Peky Pirate. Does Josh benefit from having a top tier receiver? Yes. Is he essential to his success?

No. And then Stefan replied under that. You sure? Wow. Is that really him? Yeah. Oh, yeah, but you know he's out there. Yeah. Look at that.

He just got that. Yeah. Focus, that little instinct that you know he sees everything. He keeps all the receipts. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely. He's a monster, though.

No, he's going to ball out over there in Houston. I'm just, that's just honest. What if they don't get him the ball that much because they have so many people? It'd be a problem. I think it'd be an issue for Diggs. You look at, because he was with Minnesota, right, before that for a while. And he was awesome for the majority of the time. But they ended up trading him because there were some issues, right?

You get the first time he was at Buffalo. He's crushed it every year. He's been in a, he is an elite wide receiver. But he always seems to have a good splash positive first year because there's not a whole lot to be upset about you. But as it gets going, I feel like the longer he stays with the team, there's some of those little things that are popping up. Yeah.

And you understand the mentality of somebody who wants the ball who's like an elite player to? We're not winning. Give me the ball. But that's the problem. He's going to a team that already. got ballers. They were already balling before he got there.

He used to go on the teams where they're not balling. And it's him. He's the man. He's the face. He needs the ball. Do Houston take that? If he doesn't get the ball,

if they're not spreading it around. I mean, look what Houston has right now. Look what they did, just with the guys they have. And they were injured most of the time. And then when one guy was healthy and other guy was injured, They really never played together.

Well, see. He's going to a team that, like, obviously he's elite. He's every team could use him, but he's going to a team that doesn't necessarily need him. Because where do you put him? Slot? They got a tall guy outside. Yeah, but he'll be the guy.

He'll still be the one. I mean, Dale is faster. Let's be real. He's faster. He's a slot guy, but they're going to have to move. Who going to go outside? Who going to play the Z? Nico.

Nico. It'll be Nico Collins. You don't think Nico will play the X? No, that's... Isn't that where you put your better guy? Yeah. The X usually the big boy. And that's our receiver expert.

I feel you. So you think Diggs is going to be the X? I was in Ex-Cat College. You think Diggs... Hey, yeah, you were, Mitch. You know why I say Diggs not going to be the X? The ex-guy, usually the stationary guy. He's not the motion guy.

Diggs like to move across he likes to go across it because he likes to get up and where they can't press him he got that way to make all of them's option routes to run that corner route he loves to run so much I just I don't know

I don't see them they'll know what to do with them because they come from they come from that Niners system they come from that philosophy so you have all those different weapons like they'll find they'll find ways but I think he'll still be the guy

he'll still be the one I feel like Colin stepped up so big last year that you have no choice to try to see if he can be. Iran's mad too. You feel me?

Yeah. Just some of the plays he made. I don't know. We'll see. It's going to be excited and see what they do with all the playmakers that they just got because they have a lot of playmakers now. Yeah, yeah, they do. They do. One segment we've been working on recently is our dad talk.

Our dad's, our dad segments. You got any good dad stories as of recent? I'll, uh, while you sit there and think your boy built. What I mean by built I put together. the four-wheeler that my dad got her for Christmas as like a one and a half year old. It's like for ages three and up. It goes like three miles an hour, but you press the button. She's got to like hit the gas and stuff.

But we put it together yesterday because I was like, let's get her on that. Because she's got these, you know, she's got the little red car that I got to push around in. But she's got this little horsey to where they just got to do with their feet. And it's like, yeah, let's get some, you know that shit's boring and sucks. You just got to try to move everything with your feet. So I'm like, let's get her on some electronic thing. I might have to get her the remote control one. Yeah, let's get some horsepower underneath her.

So I put together that four wheeler yesterday. I forget what it's called. You get on it? It's like an XR 350. I will say this. I tried, but I'm way too big. It could have helped me, like, if I could, like, fit everything, but I'm way too big because it was 30.

It's sturdy now. But she's fired up. I'll have to send you a photo that you can put up. I'll send you a photo that you can put up. And she takes it. And I got to go with her, right? Because it's like three miles an hour. You can't just flip it on my head.

they press the grass. I'm holding the handleboard. So I'm kind of like, you know, fast walking with her next to her. But one time I let her go, like, stop, stop. She just boom right into the garage. It was funny, though. It was caught her like last minute. Like she thought it was funny.

But she couldn't like, we got to teach her out to press the gas and let off the gas when it's time to stop. I was talking about this one of my friends the other day. And I think it's really important for kids to learn how to get hurt at a young age. Yeah. Like give them the opportunity to fall down because like at some point or another, As adults, you kind of like stop taking those risks, like trying to climb a really high tree or jump off of a roof to impress your friends. But learning how to fall as a kid, I think instills like a really good sense of confidence, like in yourself as you move into adulthood.

Even though we're not jumping off roofs anymore, when you're able to fall as a kid and get hurt, there is a sense of like you kind of aren't as protective as much over your kid. I don't know. I'm speaking with zero children here. No, you're 100% right. It's also like, Charles and I, we got to talk about it because we got to be in the moments of when something happens, like have zero reaction or like, oh, like, oh, because then they like hear your action thing and like, oh, I must be her or something. Yeah, then they start crying because she was going today and she was kind of going on my driveway. She had like free range and stuff and she was going and she's like coming towards me. And Charles was like, stop, stop.

And when I go like, I'm like, Charles, she's driving to me like you can't just yell because in her brain, she's going to hear a loud voice to where she's trying to think on her feet in the. moment. Maybe she's not, but we try to be kind, sometimes it's hard, like the fall and you, like, you like got to like grab your voice from doing anything and like, let's see how they react by just standing up. I go, did you fall? Because sometimes she'll hit the, she'll hit hard and scrape her knee on the ground. She won't, nothing will happen. But then she might fall and feel a little embarrassed and she might start crying a little bit. But no, you're 100% right. You're 100% right. Not to get like involved with them trying to experiment on doing something that, okay, they can probably get hurt here. Yeah, I kind of, that's what I do with my kids.

And it's funny you bring that up because, like, my youngest is a super cry baby. Like, if my oldest be like, I don't like you, excuse me. I hate you. I don't like you neither. I'm like, yo, it's not that serious. Are you bleeding? Like, I always say, you don't cry unless you really bleed. Like, we hate, though, people don't like cry baby.

So one time my daughters and them were playing, and they got these four-wheelers too because I'm crazy like that. And I just put them on and like, go, don't teach them how to stop or none. They learn as they go. You know what I'm saying? You know, when they got to get a little tough. You know what I mean? My youngest is baby.

My oldest one is really tough, tomboy. So I got them on these four-wheelers and they're smacking. I'm talking about it. And it's snowing. So they're doing donuts and sliding it all over the spot. And I get a little scared. Like, oh, no, let me not say that. Let me let them fill it out.

So she crashes, right? My youngest crash. She gets up. She crying. And I go, you good? I'm not bleeding. That's the first thing she says She cried

Because I always be like Are you bleeding? No, then why are you crying? Don't cry if you're not bleeding Like that's like my number one thing Because so they can understand Like if you fall and don't hurt yourself You don't have to cry about it

But like yeah, if you're bleeding Then something really wrong The first thing she says I get up and go I am not bleeding And then she throws the thing off And walks to the house I'm going

I got her though She didn't cry She got the philosophy She ain't crying, but she upset because she already know, like, I console her on certain things, but not everything. So that shit is just funny. I always think about that, like, how she literally was like, I'm not bleeding. And she only, like, five years old. Yeah, that's funny.

I mean, I still laugh about that to this day. It's like you let her kind of be upset, but at least she knows, like, she's trying. Yeah, she's trying. She's getting that concept to be five years old. She understands it. But she was just upset. So she like slammed the keys and walked in the house. I'm like, but she's not crying.

You showed it, Jack? Say what? You've shown the photo? Was that it? Oh, did you not see it earlier? Hold on. My fault. Oh, the four by four?

We got the injury out earlier. I remember when Rue was like several months old, I accidentally like she crawled off the top of the top stair. I couldn't get her in time. And I'm like chasing her down the stairs. Oh, my God. I am the worst parent of all time. Not flipping just. Oh.

Oh. Carter like three-fourths of the way down. I know, right? I felt so fucking bad. Just as I was about to ask, does Rue of a helmet for this four-wheeler? Nah, she wasn't right one.

This one was a very, yeah, the very, that's a good point. Bike helmet. Just put all night bikes stuff. Something small, yeah,

because that's all we just put all day bike stuff on them. Is that what it is, yeah, yeah, that's it. It's for ages three and up. Like when my dad got that first for Christmas, they literally sat in the Christmas

packaging till yesterday. It's really like, Dad, like, yeah, that's awesome, but she's not even, she's not even two yet. You know, most people will get them in the remote control one, where you can kind of do it. Because they like to go fast, and she always wants me to push her in the red, that red and yellow, uh, tight, that car.

That one don't have the more control, though. That one, don't know. She just picks her feet up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the one, like the Flintstone one. And I'm like, come on, dad, go fast. So then she'll, like, pick it up. No, it ain't the more control one? No.

Oh, I don't have her. remote control. Ours is, I'm talking about ours is you hit the throttle and it goes. Yeah, that's what I need to get.

So I'm not the one pushing her. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, we got the one that it goes on his own. Yeah. They, they wowed out in the snow.

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Mitch, JP, does anybody want to... What is it? Al-Upe? Al-Upe. JP got mad at me the other way. He's like, hey, how do you say it? He's like, al-Upe? He's like, no.

You dumb motherfucker. What? What is it? Al-Upe. All-A-Upe. All-A-Upe. All-U. Al-U.

That's what I said, didn't it? You said, Al-Upe? Al-Upe. I don't know. I don't know. That's shit. O'O. U.

Ali, who, yeah, oot me, oot me. JP, it got mad at me, like, damn. I was like, shit in mine. We just talk funny. Slipping on? You know what I mean? J.P., you got one? Mitch, you got one? Kick us off?

I'll start off. I'm going to shout out, every shout up, being able to travel with the boys again. The spring tour, like, the first stop, and then a lot of the fall tour, I didn't make the travel list, but it was fun being with the guys again. this weekend going out and stuff with everybody and just being a part of the crew again.

So shout out. Being able to travel. That's a good one, man. That is actually a good way. I miss my boy. Making the travel squad. Jackie Moon. Yeah, we got to hurry up so we can hit this solar eclipse.

Start at one. The full thing. Yeah, fuck it. I'll just do. Shout out to the solar eclipse. Some people don't care as much about it and that's totally fine. I think that nature phenomenons are cool, and this will be a full, I forget the exact wordage for it, but a total eclipse. There are partial ones, and this one is when the moon goes in the direct path of Earth and the sun.

We're all familiar with eclipses, but it's going to be four and a half minutes long, and in Tennessee we are closer to almost the entirety of Earth where the eclipse passes through. So hopefully it's going to be a cool experience. It's a little cloudy in Nashville today. So we might not even need these glasses, but hopefully it gets pretty dark for about four minutes. And to me, I think that's cool. Don't it happen like every five years? Because this happened before in Tennessee.

We've had a few, yeah. We had one in 2017. This one is a total eclipse. So it's like if you're in the actual direct line of it, it'll be like completely dark. Have you guys been in the direct line of it the last couple times? It got dark. Because the one time I was telling you about...

And I was really close to the direct line. But I wasn't in... It got dark here. Yeah, I think it was closer in Nashville last time. I was living in Knoxville at the time. And then now this time, it's like the very far left corner of Tennessee in the west. It's like Dyersburg, I think, is the only place that's complete... Darkness.

Yeah, darkness. Yeah, so I don't know how wide the path is, but one of the times it was like in... Like, where we were in Bontar, Missouri, like, people were coming in just to Bonten. there, staying at hotels and everything else just to travel and see because we were like in line with what you're saying. That seems like overkill to me. Like I'm not going to travel for it. Science teacher was fired up. Oh, yeah.

So you say he's got family in town. I know. I respect people who do it, but they said there's like a million extra people on the roads in America today just traveling for the eclipse. Well, some people believe that line brings wealth and good luck or some stuff like I don't really know. You know, people who all got these weird things from when. three planets align. Yeah. Like, it's crazy.

There's some conspiracies, too, about it being, like, judgment day, too. Like, this one specifically. Like, there's some... Aliens is hiding behind the moon waiting. This podcast might not even come out tomorrow. Yeah. Bro, I think I was in high school, like, in between 04 and 08.

In 2006. Yeah. But not the eclipse. Remember, there was, like, a day from, like, who was that group? The Mayan calendar. It was like a day between, like, in between 04 and 08, right? I thought it was 2012.

Yeah. It was when the mine calendar like ended. End it, yeah. Yeah. You remember that day was like, oh, is everything going to end? Then you got Y2K remember the year 2000. All the computers are going to shut down. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

People were buying water like crazy and shit. I'm like, man, what is going on? Nice shout out. That was a good shout out. Hopefully we get some good or less coverage. The clouds could make it, you know, where I lose a lot of steam today. So we'll see. Gee, what do you got?

Mine's going to be simple. We've said it before, but got home from Nebraska and woke up to the entire street, all the fellas mowing their lawn and just the smell of fresh cut grass. Can't beat it. Can't beat it. We're back. Leaves are on the trees. The boys are back.

We're here. We're back. We didn't see none of that in Nebraska. Yeah, hell no. Did you hit the primer a few times? Oh, shit. You didn't check the one. JP, what do you got?

38 and 0. Shout out no free. Shout out to the Lady Game Cox. The journey to perfection was completed last night. And Under Armour, they came out with a nice little graphic for us. It says you win some and the net is cut down. You lose none. Columbia burned down. Kids were jumping in the fountain.

Don Staley. Goat of Women's Basket. basketball from player and coach perspective. There's obviously a lot of great women's coaches, but nobody has done more than Don from the player side and the coach side. So it was just great to see. Anytime somebody goes undefeating to any sport, it's unreal to me. And they beat one of the best women basketball player,

college women basketball players ever to play the game. So that's turned our whole roster. We lost all five starters last year. Yeah, and then to do this. Right. I wonder she'll get any, like, head men's jobs. Remember we were in Nebraska and Coach Rulison that he was talking to somebody. Yeah, higher. But this was like last year.

I guess they had already filled it. But she seems like... So the Las Vegas Aces were like the best team in the WMBA right now. Yeah. They have already moved their game against whoever has the number one WMBA pick. They've moved it to T-Mobile Arena because it has like 8,000 more seats than where they play now. Just in anticipation of that team picking Caitlin Clark. Yeah, number one to come watch. Yeah.

No, she has like. changed the game. I was telling you, I was telling you earlier before we were sitting over there that I'm sitting there watching these last game, like the tournament with Iowa and following Caitlin Clark. And it's like I'm sitting there with like a like this like loose smile of like, yo, this is so sick for like women's sports that somebody like this has changed the game so much. Like they're out viewing, outperforming, the NBA finals, the World Series, all the men's tournament, all because of like Caitlin Clark and all the, you know, whether it's love, the hate and everything, kind of combined arguing over one player.

But she's like changed the fucking game for real. Yeah, definitely. It's super impressive. Does she got another year of eligibility? I see people be like, oh, she's got to try to figure out a way for her to stay at Iowa or something. No, she got it there. But a fun fact, Katelyn Clark this season alone scored more points by herself than Iowa football scored in her entire four-year college career. God, yeah.

I mean, God, damn. You had to get that OC out of there. That is brutal. That's a brutal stat. Yikes. But yeah, bro. Caitlin Clark, she is. I mean, it's been cool to see.

It's been fun to watch. Obviously, you see all the bickering going on, which is just enjoyable from a content perspective. Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't good enough. She still got 30. But what's her name? What's her name?

Whoever was Gardner, you could just tell she was ready for the challenge. It was personal because last year, Iowa knocked us out in the final four. And Raven wasn't the greatest shooter last year. Yeah. And Caitlin waved her off in the final four, left her wide open. And for real, gave her the, go ahead and shoot it. Yeah, and you could tell, like,

it was in her head the whole game. I was like for her to hit the ground with the two-hand. Need it. Because when she was guarding, Caitlin only had seven points. She was on her for a lot of minutes. When she picked her and took it the other way, for a call boy, that was nasty.

Kind of fired me up. But, yeah, shout out the women's gamecocks. My shout-out, no-free shout-outs, when you find a new game on your phone, I haven't been in the iPhone game for a minute, and I found this game called Rich. Pro Bowl, and I am on year 24 of my dynasty. I coached the Dallas Cowboys for like 15 years, and now I'm with the Las Vegas Raiders,

but there's this game, Retro Bowl, and I see them to be like, follow us on Twitter, go to our Reddit. I might just make a Reddit profile just to join this group. This game is fucking unreal. Talking about if you want a GM owner, Dynasty, like, again, I'm on year 23, 24. I've won two Super Bowls. They got Hall of Fame, like, you can make all these different lists, and you can kind of like develop players trade get coins like not to where you're buying stuff i think you can upgrade one time maybe

and get like purchase something but i found this game and i've truly been fucking obsessed with it i see so my shout i know free shout i go my shout on no free shout i goes to the retro bowl i i fucking love it i love it i might do the upgrade so i can just rename because you get there yeah you yeah it's like it's like old school what was that first initial football game yeah tecmo bowl techno techno bowl it's like that kind of style but like all right all the theatrics with GM, running the dynasty, hiring coaches, losing players. It's awesome. It's fucking sick, boys.

If I could recommend an Apsor game right now, no free shoutouts, but the retro bowl, I'm telling you, you will be immersed. Go ahead, Delaney. My shoutout, no free shot out, is going to be a land clearing machine. It's most likely the mulcher. Look, bro, I went to Nebraska and I hired these people to come in and mooch clearing, trails so we can ride four-wheelers, dirt bikes, all this, do shoot guns, whatever. I came back, the property looks ridiculous.

I mean, I am blown away about how this machine cleared trees, paths. I'm like, I'm heading up there after this. So my shout-out, no free shout-outs goes to land clearing machines, mulchers. Have you ever get land? Look into these motors. I am telling you. You know their business? You said no free shotouts, right?

Yeah, but you can give them a shot up, but it's just, you know. It's Stephen land clearing, man. They kills it. Stevens land clearing. They elite land clearing. So money well spent. Yeah, money well spent. Oh, my God.

I went back up there yesterday after I woke up. I'm like, we're going to go check it out. I'm blown away. I mean, now I can ride my side. by side through the whole, all 62 acres, I can go around all of it without being touched by a tree, bugs, it's trails that leads to the ponds that we can shoot it. Oh my God, it is the best. I'm thankful I found these guys.

We got to get a vlog. We got to get out there. You got, no, I told there, I was telling them, once the house built, I want you all to come film, film a bus, up, film one of this. We have to. That'd be a fun day, bro. Just having a crazy day, side by side, shooting guns, all that. Have to.

Yeah. That's a good one. Should we get, should we get it? How long we've been rocking, Mitch? Hour 45 minutes. How long is the biz being interviewed? 35 minutes. I think we're solid.

We got the masters coming up this weekend for those who celebrate. There is also a golf tournament, the Barstool Golf Tournament, the Barstool Golf Tournament that will be taking place. And I believe we'll be live on Wednesday. So as you're listening tomorrow, there'll be three rounds. And then the final run on Thursday, that'll be happening at the Chicago, Barcelona, Chicago, HQ. So make sure to tune into that.

Gee, you got any people we should, we should drop some bets on? Anybody we should be following, look out for? So maybe an underdog? Underdog, I mean, not really an underdog. You just won this past week, but he might shake some things up. I'm going to botch his name. I'll get to look it up. But Young Cat, 22 years old.

just bawled out this past weekend. So people will be watching him going into this week. It's his first time playing in the Masters. But Wednesday on the 10th. A lot of golf content coming out. Yeah, we did the Sandbagger with spitting chicklets. That'll be dropping. We also, hey, we got golf merch that will obviously be promoting and selling.

Maybe I can get, maybe the bet I might do with rigs or something like get in with rigs. And be, hey, whoever beats who in this mini golf tournament, the loser has to promote. Has to stop selling golf merch? Or just promote the others. But yeah, we got, so we got golf merch coming out, or we got golf merch out. You go check out of the store, store at barsoosports.com.

The Spitting Chicklets sandbagger, Taylor and myself was out in Orlando, and we did a sandbagger with the Spitting Chicklet's crew. That's going to be electric. Whitten Biz are just, those are some old-time cats. But yeah, man, check all that stuff out. We're going to get to the Michael Bisbing episode with the Bizbing episode.

Let me see here. The Bisbing episode, we talk about him going, his childhood and getting into fighting because of how much he was in and out of jail. The dude is a great storyteller, a lot of charisma, a bar fight that he talks about that's a lot of fun to listen to, going from athlete to media, kind of him getting out and transitioning out of the fight game. But dude is a lot of fun to talk to. I think he has a YouTube channel as well that's super successful. He does a lot of work with the UFC. but Michael Bisbing. Talk a little bit about the Chandler-McGregor fight coming up.

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Yeah. You have a good show on YouTube. There's no slouch, bro. I do. I keep myself busy, yeah. You've done a great job transitioning from fight. Well, thank you very much. Yeah, I mean, as a former fighter or like all athletes,

I mean, you guys did very well, but fighters in particularly, it's a hard road. You know what I mean? And then not a lot of. of fighters make money. You know, there's only the tip of the iceberg. And I'm not talking about in the UFC. I mean, to get to the UFC, I mean, that in itself is very hard, you know, but to really

be able to retire comfortably, you know, only the, only a select few get to do that, you know, in, in, in any professional sports. I mean, if you look at soccer, right, how many people play soccer, you know, and how many people get to actually really make a living. So, yeah, retiring as a fighter, still being involved with the sport, commentating the UFC. I couldn't have worked out any better and I'm a very happy man. Do you feel like you retired comfortably? Oh yeah, no for sure. Like at the time? Yeah, yeah. No, I had a great career. You know, I mean, I was able to win the belt, defend it, have some championship fights.

You know, I was rep in the UK for a long time as well. So I had a great career. I had a long run. Yeah, yeah, very comfortably. I mean, you can always be more comfortable. No question. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You've got a goalpost over and over again. Yeah, Dana always looked after me and I always did. very well. Were you doing any of the media stuff while you were fighting or was that a transition you made right when you got done? No, so I was doing it whilst I

was fighting as well. Is this sound okay for you guys? Close enough? Yeah, so you probably know or maybe you don't, so I don't see my right eye. We've heard the way. Yeah, yeah. So when I started having the eye issues, because obviously you want to be a champion and all the rest of it,

when I started having the eye issues and I was told I was never going to be able to fight again and I did carry on fighting and I was lying and cheating on tests and all the rest of it, doing whatever I could, right? But I was like, this isn't going to last forever. I've got to figure out, I know my door is closing. The options are going to go away soon.

So I started doing as much of that stuff as I could, working on Fox Sports at the time, and then started a podcast, and then just whatever else I could do whilst I still had a platform and whilst people still gave it down. You know what I'm saying? Because when you retire, you're all news.

If it wasn't for the eye, do you think you would have had the idea to kind of, okay I need to find out some different avenues because as us as athletes like for me there was never a plan B you to kind of just think I'm going to play football and then I'll die on the field. Sure. Greatest honor to go out that way. No, for sure. And that's always the goal. That's what you want to do.

You've got to be single minded to be successful and to be great at anything. You've got to be like that. But of course, you'd be a fool not to realize that there's a life after fighting. You know what I mean? I think it was 2009. I started doing a little bit of acting and stuff like that. I never thought I'd end up doing that. but I just got offered an acting roll out of the blue.

So I was like, yeah, fucking, why not? Let's give it a shot. The next thing I'm in Austin, Texas. Spent my per die for the entire shoot on the first night with my buddy. We had a great night out, turned the poncette, hung over to the mics, thinking, what am I doing here? But then ended up loving the entire process and done that stuff ever since as well. So, yeah, I mean, I always kind of had, pardon the pun,

one eye on doing other stuff. Nice. Tell us about the legacy. We were a little birdie totalist that you had a DJ, career. DJ Mikey B. It's nothing to write home about. So yeah, I mean, listen, I was obsessing martial arts as a kid. And then one day I was walking home from work when I was 16 and my buddy had a set of decks. I went into his house and, you know, they were smoking weed and stuff. I was never a weed smoker. But I saw the decks and the turntables. And I just thought that was the

coolest thing ever at 16. So I stopped doing martial arts and became DJ Mikey B. I put all my effort into that and I had a little bit of a following or whatever. I did okay for a while. But, but, you know, nothing to my home about, you know what I still spin the turntables a bit for fun when I'm bored. I might do the occasional set here and there

but those, I've hung up the records a long time ago. You stopped MMA so you were doing the DJ stuff and then I was like, okay, let me get back into the fight game. Yeah, yeah, well I wasn't doing MMA, I was doing martial arts, you know, a lot of martial art tournaments and stuff. So yeah, I put all my efforts into being a DJ and then

I met my girlfriend, who's now my wife, and we had two children. And then I was like, yeah, I don't think this is happening. You know what I mean? There were some pretty rundown venues in the northwest of England. You know what I mean? We're not exactly talking excess at the win. This is not what we're talking about here, guys. That was the goal back then, yeah, get to Vegas.

I don't even know about that. Get to Ibiza, as you guys were. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, and then when the kids came along, I was like, what am I doing with myself? And I was always getting into scraps, you know, on fights when I was a kid. I was that kind of guy.

And then I actually went to prison. I got sent down for 28 days. And it was when I was sitting in the holding cell waiting to be assigned my cell, I was sitting there. I was thinking, what is going on? What is, how have I ended up here? And I'm sitting in this holding cell and there's all drug addicts and dead beats around me. And they're like, they're coming up,

yeah, what, weren't you in for me? You know, and I'm like, don't talk to me. Stay away for, I'm not one of you. And I thought to myself, I've got to make a change. And right then and that's when I kind of got my act together. And I'm actually grateful for that judge for doing that because I was just reckless and didn't really give a damn. How do we get in there?

How do we get in there? How old were you? Just, just, I was fighting. Yeah. How old were you? What was that? 22, 23, something like that. I was always getting fights.

I'm from a small town. Everyone knows everyone's business Ever since I was a kid I was just that kind of kid I was always down for a fight And I was young and I was reckless And I thought it was all fun in games You know what I mean

You know I was very immature Let's be honest You know So it really was a wake-up calling It is what the prison system Was supposed to be It's like oh I need to snap out of it now It worked on me 100%

Yeah 100% yeah So I came out of there And never threw another punch On the street Just decided to start doing it professionally. But I didn't find my way to mixed martial arts then because MMA wasn't really a thing. The UFC existed, but I wasn't a fan. But then my old,

to use an old term, Sensei, told me all about the explosion of something called mixed martial arts and the UFC. And in Japan they had pride. And I didn't even know what it was. I said, can you make money? And he said, listen, the champions are making great money. There are celebrities in America. They're getting into acting and all these kind of stuff. So he said this whole, he painted this whole picture And I thought, that's what I want. So I signed up for my first fight three months later, didn't even know what the sport was,

got the knockout, two years later, I was on the ultimate fire, won that, next minute, here we are talking, busing in with the boys. That's right. Was that the big break was getting on the ultimate fighter? Oh, for sure, of course, you know, fighting on the regional scene, if you will. That's what they call it in the UK.

I mean, I was the cage warrior. champion. I was a cage race champion. I was the, what was it? Any promotion that was in the UK, I was the champion of, as well as as the super heavyweight kitboxing champion. I used to be a bit of a fat bastard. So, yeah, I mean, so then

they came to the UK, looking for two guys to be on the ultimate fight to season three, and then we had these open auditions, and at the auditions, all the other people in my weight class I'd knock them all out. You know what I mean? So I was kind of confident that I was going to get it. And then, of course, I'm a loudmouth piece of shit,

as well. So you want a bit of drama. So, yeah, yeah, there you go. How was the ultimate fighter structure then? Was everybody in the same house still? Was it kind of like a reality TV show to go with it as well? Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, absolutely.

And I loved it. I mean, come on, listen. I've never been to America. They're going to fly me to America. I'm sitting in a big, beautiful mansion with a bunch of guys. We're getting paid to train and work out. And you walk in, I'm being coached by Tito Ortiz and Ken Chamrock and Dana White's there. I'm like, shit.

This is it. This is really happening. And a lot of people on the show. show they were there for the 15 minutes of fame you know but i was i was there to kick some ass and win you know and fortunately with a bit of luck that's what i was able to do so when you go to when you go to the ultimate fighter and you get that bid to go to the ufc you said earlier you weren't really a fan of ufc when did you become like this is yeah this organization is really it wasn't and they put money in his pocket yeah exactly i was like he's not bad actually yeah it wasn't that i wasn't a pretty good spot i just didn't even

really know it existed. I remember I was at World Championships in 1995 when I was 16 and we were staying in a youth hostel in Auckland and I remember in the kitchen in the youth hostel they were all watching, I think it was like UFC 2 or 3 or something and I wasn't really interested. Not because I wasn't a fan, I was just

you know, I was a kid and whatever and I was too busy going out with my friends and partying and stuff but as soon as I knew there was a viable career option and I knew I was getting older and I'd been in trouble with the law and I left school at 16, I was like, this is probably the only way I'm going to make something of my life, you know,

because I always sends, like, you know, getting on your, your lecturer as high horse, but everyone's good at something, everyone's got a skill. And I remember, I remember my supervisor at the time at work, I was working at this sofa factory, just like making couches and stuff. And he said, what are you going to do for the rest of your life, Michael? He said, do you want to do this? I said, no way. and he said, well, you know, you think about it because I walked into this factory 30 years ago and it's flown by like that. He said, you're still a young man.

So I started thinking. I said, what am I good at? What am I good at? And I've always been good at fighting. I was always good at martial arts. I was always in street fights. I'm ashamed to say it now, but I was, you know, I was very successful.

Let's just put it like that without sounding like a prick. So I said to him, I never forget, I walked up to him one day. I said, Mick, I said, I figured it out what I'm going to do. And he takes his tool belt on. He takes his tool belt off and he walks off and rubbing his hands. Come on, because he was kind of like a mentor. And he's like, okay, what's the plan?

I said, I'm going to be a professional fighter. And he was like, oh, my God. I thought you were a smart kid. No, no, no, no, just me. I know what I'm doing. So anyway, yeah, that was... Did you ever make the call back to him? Like, hey, I fucking did it.

Funnily enough, I was Googling him last week, because I was talking about this to my wife, about Mick Caleen. But no, no, I don't, I don't know what happened to him. I hope he's alive. I hope he well. I don't think I had as much of an impact on him as he had on me. Yeah.

It's funny, isn't it? You know, that these people come into your lives that can make a big impression and they might not realize it. You know, like a teacher to a troubled high school kid or whatever, you know. Right. Yeah. Yeah. There you go.

You've had a lot of incredible fights. Like, what loss pisses you off the most? Oh, what loss? None of them, to be honest. None of them pissed me off. I mean, I'm 44 now, so, and I've been retired since 2018. So, you know, I don't spend, I don't keep myself up at night stewing over them. But what pissed me off?

Which one had the most residual effect? Because there's been, yeah, times passed. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I don't, again, good question. I mean, the Vandalea Silver fight was bullshit. I won that fight. I was robbed.

Hell of yes. Yeah. I love that. I was wrong. Nothing really makes me mad, but the, I was a bullshit fight. But now you're digging deep into the archives. You know, fuck Vandele. No, no.

Yeah, so does that one, I guess, because Vandale is a legend of the sport, and he was actually one of the guys that, when I started discovering what MMA was, I saw Vandale Fowl. I was like, oh, my God. This guy's amazing. Look at this guy, and I wanted to be like him.

And then, so to fight him was a big deal. You know, and I thought I won the fight, but whatever, it didn't go my way. Yeah, he had all the training videos where he's like, the snorkel and shit, right? Like, yeah, he did a lot of of steroids as well.

You know, they're the ones, you know what I mean? The veto Belfour won. Obviously, I lost an eyeball through that because he's a cheating piece of shit, you know? So I guess there's a few. Cale son can go fuck himself.

He was on every performance enhancing drug under the sun. I love Cale. He's cool. Yeah. He's mildly too. Like, I'm sure that. That one was like, God, I wish I could have fucking. It never did. Because we were both fighting on the same card, but we had different opponents.

And then for whatever reason, it's a long story, somebody dropped out. So they rejiggled the card, and I was fighting Chale. And this was like 10 days before the fight. So we didn't really have time for anything to manifest or to brew. You know, there was no bad feelings couldn't, you know, arise. It was like before we knew it, we were in Chicago, we were stepping on the scale. Gotcha. I remember I squared up to Chale.

on the uh the the the the the wayings yeah and you know you try and do your beat like you get in his face and like yeah fucking dead and all that type of stuff hey but the accent with that it was so fucking dead you're such a head I'm in there and I'm like I'm always used to give not not give him a head but just like a little you know just a little touch yeah you know because you're trying to insert your last minute dominance you know and chale just said what colon are you wearing you smell delightful oh no shit I threw you off big time. Yeah, I was like, son of a bitch.

Yeah. You talk about these dudes, you got taking PED, steroids, stuff like that. Was it easy when you got your hands on guys to feel like, okay, you got something going on extra? Do you know what, to be honest, there's only one fight that I ever felt overpowered in, even though I know for a fact I afford a lot of guys that were using. Because for a while, there was to self-storm replacement therapy, which was legal. They were allowed to do that. Yeah.

If you went to a doctor and the doctor signed off on it, there you go. Boom, you were in. And I've never taken a doctor. anything in my life. But even still, there was, I guess Vito was like ridiculously powerful

and explosive with his striking. But when we clinched up or anything, there's only one guy that I thought, who's called Matt Hamill, that was a death fighter that warped my ass in round one

and I was like a little schoolboy with him. But he wasn't on steroids or anything like that. He was just a good old fashion form boy. Do you know what I mean? Give me a good old ass kicking.

God bless him. Was it just the testosterone like the TRT that was like the issue? like what what how was everybody how were people able to access it so much I have no idea I have not an expert on that stuff but it was rife I know it was everyone

you know everyone's aware of that because the drug testing back then was kind of like an IQ test you know now we have well we had you Sada we have another program now where they show randomly they test you and you know it's very in depth and very safe back then it was and not all fights the main

event maybe the coal main you had to take a piss test after the fight you know so if you're smart enough you know how to cycle it and get it out of your system but i was always so young and confident i was like i don't give a shit i don't care whatever i'm going to get him anyway never thought about it what about taking anything right like trying to never figure out what edge i can get you in there i remember when i was coming up in the uk you know it was the the uk scene back then was like the wild west trust me like you know anyone involved in mixed martial arts back then they were all gangsters and drug dealers and thugs and

whatnot, you know, it wasn't the professional scene it is now, let me tell you. And there was a lot of people all taking steroids on my team and stuff like that. But in my mind, I was always like, well, number one, I don't want to do that. I don't need to do that. But I'm going to the UFC. I'm not here to be a tough guy in my hometown. I'm going to the UFC and I don't want to test positive and get banned. You know what I mean?

And of course, ethically, ethically, of course, you know. Yeah, that's a tough deal with the ethically part. But everybody's doing it. It's got to be hard. Like, you think about baseball in the 90s. It's like you watch the Lance Armstrong stuff. And how do you keep it secret too? Like you know dudes are taking it and everyone's like this guy's the best.

Like the Lance Armstrong documentary where you realize like literally every cyclist was on something. Like he was just the guy who was like, you know. Yeah. But when you're undefeated and this is the thing that you'll see like Eleo Tuporius fighting next week on UFC 298. And he is brimming with confidence. He's talking about knocking Volcanovsky out in one round and how it's not even going to be a fight. Because that's how you are when you're undefeated. Like I was smoking everybody.

You know, I was knocking everyone out in the first. round and, you know, I didn't really have a fight. And that was like, yeah, fuck him, you know, because when you're undefeated, you literally feel like no one on earth can beat you. And it's just what it does to you. And every time you compete and you win, that is, that mindset is further solidified. So I was like, well, help you knock yourself out. Give you your best shot, you know, until you start getting knocked out yourself.

So you start losing eyes and dribbling. Do you know what I mean? Stoptering your word. You're like, yeah. Does it change your game? Like when you first got the eye? Who was the, uh, who was the, uh, Who was the first one to do you?

Was it a short? Dan Henderson, UFC 100. So we coached the Ultimate Fighter. Passion. Yeah. Passion in that. No, no. Listen, fair play.

He was on testosterone replacement therapy. That's noted and in the books. It's true. I love it. I know, I know. It's true. No, no, God bless him. He got me good.

Because we coached the Ultimate Fighter. I talked a ton of shit because Dan Henderson is literally like watching paint dry. So somebody had to make that show exciting and interesting to watch. And he's a bit of a prick. So that made it easy. So I talked a bit of shit as I do. And it was skewed from the whole UK versus USA thing in 1776.

And he was the good old-fashioned, hardworking, quiet American boy. I was going to come in and fuck me up. And that's exactly what he did. And that's what he did. My God. It was the biggest show the USC had ever done. And I got knocked out in the most spectacular fashion. And then he flies through the hours.

I'm already unconscious and gives me another one. but good times good times you know what I mean you learn lessons it is what it is what was it like winning the belt

the adrenaline when you were finally like yeah I mean obviously an incredible experience when I won the belt after I knock him out I jump on top of the cage

and I turn around and a point I say fuck you but that wasn't really at Lou Rockhold that was at everyone that wrote me off everyone that told me off

Everyone that talked shit, everyone that wrote articles in the media, everyone online that said he could never do it. He's a good fighter, but he's not a great fighter. He's not championship material. And they always said that all along. And every time I got a win, they always said it was a fluke or whatever, you know. They didn't know how hard I was working. So that was that pure emotion coming out there.

And it wasn't directed at Luke, poor guy. It was directed at all the naysayers of which there was many. Right. So it makes a great competitor. Yeah. All those little chirps. Just trying to prove. of one wrong.

Taking everything personal one way or another. Yeah. Yeah. Just being like, oh, they said this and me, I think it's the worst thing ever. Very emotionally immature. Yeah. When you're finally like getting out of the fighting ring and going into the media, like, was there ever a process for you where you've been a fighter your whole life,

whether it's been professionally or non-professionally? And now you're going into something completely different. Like, was there a piece of your identity that you're like, ah, I feel like I'm losing something of myself? No, not really. Because honestly, I feel like that fighter version of myself, I guess. I guess if I, you know, he's still in there somewhere. But I'm a different guy these days, completely.

You know, I mean, I was, you know, it was definitely a personality flow when I was younger. I was always getting into fights. And that kind of became my identity, my badge of honor. That's who I was. And when I was younger, that's kind of like how we ended up getting friends and being popular and hanging out with the cool guys and stuff. So that only further reinforced it being this bad boy image, if you will.

And then when I got to the UFC, you know, I guess again, it's making me money, it's making me famous or whatever. But now I'm sure I've grown up and I'm certainly not fighting anymore. And that kind of version of me doesn't really exist anymore. And I don't find myself being combative at all. You know, I still work out, I still train every day. Like, for example, there's been two occasions recently where I've been assaulted in the streets and done nothing about it,

full on punched in the face. And I could have made it. mince me of these two assholes. Trust me. I was in New Orleans. I was in New Orleans. I was in New Orleans. That's where they get you. I was in New Orleans and I'm walking down Bourbon Street. I've never been there before.

Don't want to go back. Burbank Street is a shithole. No offense. I got assaulted. I got assaulted. You know what I mean? And then I'm with my wife and there's a bunch of young guys like playing on their upside down buckets. Right? And playing drums and stuff.

So I'm doing a little touristy thing. I'm filming, a little Instagram stories. The guy gets in my face is like, you can't film. I'm like, yeah, I can. It's a public place. And I carry on film. He says, you're why ain't going to tell you again? You can't film.

I'm like, yes, I fucking can. And I carry on film it. And he gets right in my face. I said, sog my fucking dick. And he just goes, fair play to him. Fair play. Fair play. You know what I mean?

I said, suck my fucking dick. And he just went, boom, and punch me. I was there with my wife. And my youngest son, what was he, like 10 at the time or something? But the punch was so. pathetic. It literally, my reaction, I laughed my head off. God, that's the most disrespectful

shit ever. This is not me trying to sound tough. It literally was like, ding. And I said, what was that? I said, did you just punch me in the face? I said, you come up, you talk all that shit, and you punch me in the face. And that is what you have to offer. I said, come on, but I was laughing my head off. So we just

walked away. What did you do? Because he had to swing and kind of get ready. So I have a YouTube channel. I'm on most watch video is because I do a podcast as well. And this guy put a video out because he found out who I was afterwards. So I took his footage and used it, integrated it onto my video. It's my most watched video. But his version of events is exactly the same as mine.

It's exactly the same. We didn't lie. Do you know what I mean? He said, I told him to stop filming him and he wouldn't film. So he like told me to suck his dick. So I punched him in the face. I'm like, see, I told you. You know what I mean?

And then recently, I've never spoken about this before. I was back home in Clitherall, where I'm from. And I was at dinner with my mom, who's almost 80 years old. She can't walk. She's on crutches. And with my sister, she's got a newborn baby. It's a beautiful summer's night. It's about 12 of us, a very nice family atmosphere.

It's like 5.30 p.m. And I'm sitting there. And these guys walk in, I say, guys, they're like 60 years old. Old drunk bombs walking, hammered drunk. And one of them just, I'm just. walks over to me, he says, you don't remember me, do you? And like, whenever I go back, there's always old faces that I can't remember the name. Well, hello, good to see you, but I can't.

I said, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, good to see you. He said, you don't remember, do you? I said, oh, well, I don't remember your name, but yeah, your face is familiar. He says, no, let me give you a reminder. And I've got a scar between my eyes where I got a big metal stool smashed in my head when I was about 17. And then 20 guys jumped on my head. He says, look at that, you know, that scar between your eyes. I did that. I said, right. I said, I think you need to walk away. So he goes away and they sit down

the other side of the restaurant and it comes to the end of the night. I'm paying the bill and I'm standing by the front door and then they walk past again and they start talking more shit. I said, what are you doing? I said, I'm here. I don't know who you are. I don't remember it. This was 1997 by the way. Do you know what I mean? We've all moved on with our lives. And you'd at least know what you became. Well, he did. That's what he's doing it. So anyway, as I'm talking to one guy, The other guy sucker punches me and he has a wing gun explodes my nose

do you know what I mean and then as he hits me he falls on the floor right and they just hammered drunk and I'm standing there and I'm just like oh god

I could fuck you up so easily right now but I just didn't do anything didn't do anything right because I'm not doing that I'm not lowering myself to that I'm not coming back to my hometown where I used to always be getting in fights

and they say he's oh Michael Bispy's back he's only been back two minutes he's already getting into fights Do you know what I mean? I'm not perpetuating. You know who this guy is. Because I was not just that I'm not that guy anymore.

That was the whole point of this. I'm not that guy anymore, you know. When in your mind did it shift that I'm not going to be that guy anymore? I'm not that guy anymore. No, when I was in prison. But still, when I was fighting, I was younger. Yeah, yeah. But when I retired, because I see myself back on old, like old promos and stuff.

And I'm like, oh, God. He's that guy. Who's that guy? Do you know what I mean? I'm like, Jesus Christ. So how did your mom react to that? Well, they couldn't believe it. I walked in it and my nose was all bloody.

And they were like, what has just happened? You're only paying the bill. Drama follows you everywhere. Yeah, yeah, no, my mom's, she's seen it before. Yeah. She's seen it before. When you retired, was there a thought of you, was there a part of you that's like, I want to retire, but I want to go out with a win.

I want to go out on top. Not on top, but I want to go out with a win. Absolutely. of course, yeah, because I was going to fight again as well against Richard Evans, we were going to have a rematch. But for one reason or another, it never happened. And then an old friend of mine said to me as well, he said, Michael, what are you doing?

And I said, well, and then my manager, Rory as well, there was a few people. I said, well, I want to go back to London. I want to fight the O2 Arena one last time. And I want to thank the audience. And I want to have that moment where you take your gloves off and you put it down and you thank the crowd. and thank you for all the support over the years

and all the rest of it. And it was already actually, my manager is like, yeah, but you're romancing that in your head. You know, he said, you've got one eye. Do you want to go blind? You want to risk going blind?

Because the fight before that, when I fought Kelvin Gasolum, because every time, because I used to cheat the tests, okay, they're not that hard to cheat. If you're a little scallywag like I was growing up, they're not that hard to cheat, right? But the doctors used to always say,

you know, you've been very, you know, risky, still fighting, because if anything happens to you, a good eye, you know, you could go blind. I was like, yeah, it's fine. And I was like, well, lightning's not going to strike twice. That was my logic, right? It's already happened in one eye.

The odds of that happening on the second eye is minimal. It's not going to happen. Well, when I got knocked out in China, afterwards, we went to a nightclub and we're sitting in there, and my eye just kept going, like flashing. Every time I look left, it would give a flash. and I thought, oh my God,

because I remember the symptoms when I had the detached rettting at the first time. So that was why, you know, I kind of wasn't going to fight again. But then I wanted that send-off, you know what I mean? And he reminded me that,

I said, what are you doing? You want to go blind? He said, for what, some idea, some theory that you've got in your mind this whole big romantic send-off? He said, you're being stupid. I thought, you know what?

You're absolutely right. Do you have any more? Yeah, I do. I mean, it's kind of a cheeky, question kind of bullshit question that you just go on clip or whatever but uh i see how the ufc is today if you're picking out fighters if you were in your prime again who are the guys that you would love to take a crack at fighters right now today yeah um well i used to train with him a lot shone strickland would be easy work israel had a sonya i'm joking by the way uh shone strickland israel

at osangia driggis du plesi who else is in the top five give me all of those you know i wouldn't want to go at who tom asked me no that. What is that? Have you seen the size of him? I know you're a big boy. I'm telling you. Whoever wins that fight between Jones and Stepei,

they should retire because they're going to get their ass warped, simple as that. And I love Jones and I love Steeper and I've got so much respect. Look at what he did to Sergei Pavlovich. And I was saying this coming into this fight and DC was like, what are you doing? What are you talking about? You know, he's like, you're kissing this guy's ass.

I'm like, no, I'm basing this of what I see. And he went out and he did it again. And I don't see anybody stopping him. With all these fight leagues coming about, do you think any other league has a shot to compete with the UFC at any point? Probably not. You know, there's always new iterations. There's always people who want to come up and do things differently

and change the rules and tweet this and that. You know, I don't think so. I mean, it's the household name. You know, it's like, I don't know much about football. You got the NFL, what, the XFL? Is that ever going to come? It's really competing. What is it called the PFL?

You got the PFL? I mean, you have a CFL, PFL, UFL, for the fight. There's an FFL and everything, or the FC, or the, you know, no, no, not because. Based on like the fighter pay and the, the topic that's always talked about. What happens from my knowledge is that they try and poach away the UFC fights by paying them exorbitant amounts of money,

that they're not necessarily worth. sometimes. But in the UFC, there's no better place. If you can become champion and you get pay-per-view points, that's where you're going to make the most money. And I always get accused of being a company man. Well, I am a company man and I'm proud to be so. It changed my

life. You know, it changed my life 100%. And you'll notice that the people making good money, the creme de la creme, the people at the top, they're not bitching, they're not complaining, because the money's there. You know, I mean, look at Conner for crying out loud and granted. He's like, you know, he's

kind of like a unicorn if you will, but there's plenty of other people that are making very, very good livings. Who do you like Chandler, McGregor? Probably Chandler. Let's be honest. You know,

McGregor's, he's been out. It'll be almost four years by then. He's made so much money and the motivation probably isn't there. You know? And he likes to party. Yeah. And why not?

God bless him. Yeah, hey, enjoy yourself. He's done it. He'd come in, he changed the game, won the belts, made the money.

Well, We're boys with Mike. It's going to be good to hear that. Yeah, no, no, of course you are. Yeah, no, I love Chandler as well. Listen, what else has McGregor got to prove? The only reason he still wants to fight is because you can have all the money in the world, but you can't buy a championship in the UFC.

And as all fighters, we operate on ego, and we want to say we're the best, we're the top. And it goes back to, as I was saying before, about me always getting in fights. I wanted to be the baddest motherfucker around. I wanted to be the toughest guy. And it's the same shit. It's the same schoolyard stuff that we're all fucking doing, but we're professional fighters. They wouldn't be the toughest and the hardest and the baddest guy.

And McGregor wants that. And he's trying to prove that he still is. You know, that's why you're coming back. And he wants respect from the fight community. And the only way you get that is by fighting. You can't buy that. So fair play to him for still trying. You know what I mean?

But he doesn't need to. Yeah. Michael, man, thank you for coming on. This has been all the time. Your career. In here, energy was high. His charisma. after it.

There's a reason why you're successful in media. I'm quite tired. As far as YouTube show, everything, where can we find your stuff? I don't really like to do that because it's just cringe. I've cut myself out of it. But, you know, just checking out, Google it. I'm not doing it. Any time.

Oh, guys, you can find me on the, you know. Nah, I'm not doing it. Fucking Google it. You know, you know, you know he's been in front of camera. Like, Michael's Bizbing show, subscribe. Make sure you're subscribed. I'm too cool for school. The Believe You Me Podcast.

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