Bussin' With The Boys - Will Compton Shaves His Head, Taylor Lewan "Daniel Jones MVP" + Greg Olsen Still Believes In Rams

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

Recorded: September 22nd, 2025 | The Boys are back recapping a massive weekend of football. Michigan took down Nebraska in The Bussin’ Bowl, which meant Will Compton had to pay up on his bet and shave his head. On top of that, The Boys partnered with FanDuel to donate money to charities as part of a separate wager. They also break down a wild weekend of college football — Miami taking down Florida, Oregon gearing up for a huge showdown with Penn State, Clemson dropping another tough loss and the question of what to do with Dabo, plus plenty of upsets and bounce-back wins. Then it’s on to the NFL. Greg Olsen hops on the bus to talk about the Eagles’ comeback win over the Rams, why Carson Wentz could be in line to take over as QB1 in Minnesota, Taylor Lewan stirs the pot asking if Daniel Jones is actually the MVP of the NFL, and more! Big hugs, tiny kisses.   0:00 Intro2:39 Bussin Bowl Bet17:03 Indiana v Illinois18:29 Oklahoma v Auburn21:01 Texas v Sam Houston22:57 Arkansas v Memphis25:09 Arizona State v Baylor 26:14 Syracuse v Clemson33:46 South Carolina v Missouri 35:29 Texas Tech v Utah37:54 Vanderbilt v Georgia State38:51 Michigan Rest Of The Year48:00 GREG OLSEN JOINS48:42 Middle School Team Update58:06 Eagles v Rams1:06:12 Bucs v Jets1:07:54 Greg Like's Will’s Bald Head1:10:56 Browns v Packers1:15:34 Bears v Cowboys1:19:06 Chargers v Broncos1:21:39 Vikings v Bengals 1:23:56 Colts v Titans1:25:12 Lions v Ravens Preview1:28:01 Chiefs v Giants1:32:34 #TierTalk1:43:40 The State Of The TitansSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah, look, I got a bald head. I got a bald head. It's a nice, I can feel the nice little breeze. All the hand placement that goes around my head is an interesting feeling because you feel the cooling sensation. But, yeah, man. we got beat got beat 30 to 27

before we go into the game what was a conversation like with your family with your wife charl wanted me to back out she's like we got family photos coming up in a couple weeks did she know about the bet beforehand

she knew through our content oh you didn't say you didn't sit at the dinner table and go hey just so you know no no okay all right no and so but she knew before the game took place that you made this bet

or this bet was on the table Yes, yes, yes. The night before when we were talking about it, yeah. She understood what was at stake. And I'm like, sweetheart, don't even worry about it. I'm not losing this hair. And, yeah, after, like yesterday, she was like, you know you can just back out. You just don't have to do it.

I'm like, sweetheart, I know, but I made a bet. I got to keep that bet. Got to keep that promise. Got to keep that bet. She's like, I feel like you're just, you're only doing it because of the shame you'd face on the air. I'm like, sweetheart. I made a bet. I lost the bet.

I got to shave my head. It's coming off tomorrow. Yeah. It's coming off tomorrow morning. It's a good lesson for you to teach your wife. Yeah. And a great lesson that your kids will see. Yeah, they might not recognize you.

Rue might cry. But she'll know that her dad's a man of his word. Yeah. And that's what's the most important. You keep your bets in this house. You keep your bets. You got to pay your debts. No doubt.

The wife, she might end up liking it. I do feel like with this dude ball look, I've got a couple minutes of extra stamina brewing. I mean, I just feel like you just get some little extra juice in the system. You've dropped like 3% body fat since you got that haircut. Like you just look, you look tighter. More put together. Do you want to talk about the game?

Yeah, we can talk about the game. Also shout out Sunny for these shoes. Michigan gave me these dunks. Shout out sunny just. Shout out Sunny in general. Even when I went into the locker, he had a, he had a little, like a backpack, one of those little baggies. Oh, yeah. He's like, don't even wear there's not even a Michigan emblem in this bag.

I just wanted to give you something. I mean, Sonny's the man. dude. He really is awesome. He always thinks to the boys. We hold up that shirt that I wanted you do to wear for the show. Fully understand why you don't wear this, but right now there's a push. I'll just say, the only reason I don't want to wear this is it's just

this is the, this true classic. I got, I brought out, I got true classic, I got the chains back in action. You've changed all you need is a cubic circoneum earring now. And I think you'll be dialed one side only. But this, so Sonny gave me this and this is Michigan's 150th win

in program history. They put these stickers on the helmets when you get a win, big block, big catch, touchdowns, those types of things. And so there's a press for them to put the Bustin Bowl sticker on the helmets. And I hope they go through that. That would be really cool. Because a big conversation in this was that would be sick. Yeah, it would be sick. How do you make this rivalry real? How do you make this trophy game real? And the most simple answer is Nebraska wins this game. Obviously, I'm torn. Because at some point Nebraska does need to win this game for it to be an actual trophy game. but with all the stakes, how confident I wasn't my team,

how confident I was in his team, it couldn't be this time. But if they were to put the stickers, put it on the helmet, it's like, okay, that makes it feel a little more real. Because it's like, you know, the helmet, the sticker, the bus, the whole thing, that fires me up quite a bit. And just think about it too, like growing up, obviously the Buckeyes have it with their stickers. Yeah.

And, but just knowing that Michigan does these stickers on the helmet, it's just cool that, like, busting with the boys is on. He's on that Michigan helmet. Yeah, that's awesome. Because it is, I mean, people love to hate Michigan, but that helmet, the tradition that comes to the helmet is just so awesome. The game itself will, I'll let you have the floor. It was, listen, I like to think that we handle ourselves game day. Yeah.

Classy. Yeah, yeah, we were classy. Yeah. We were classy. We understood what was going on. Yeah, there was a level of respect. Both wanted to win. Both wanted to win.

I think during the game, there's a couple times. I went to well, I was like, you guys got to do this. Like I'm also like watching the game unfold and like if you guys do X, Y and Z I feel you'll have more success. I did that like a third time and like towards like the third quarter

and I could tell Will was not receptive and then so I turned him and go I'm sorry because at the same time I'm like trying to I feel the game and I'm like I know that you know I have this really strong feeling that mission's gonna be able to pull it out

and pull through and I feel like I don't know if you felt but like maybe it was you kind of felt getting away from you a little bit as the game went on. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, there was those moments, especially in the second half. It's just like, you can't get gash in the run like that.

Yeah. Like, you got to get the run fits right. Some of it's schematic. Some of it's, you know, hey, just get it. You have a play to be made. Like, don't feel the moment around you, be the moment. And, yeah, too many chunk plays, too many big plays. Thought they came out, especially in those first couple of series where you go forward on fourth and two and don't get it.

You know your boy loves it. Like, I want the three. Love points. Give me the three. Love points. Notre Dame Ohio State a couple of. years ago. Right, which is exactly what you said to me on the field. Yeah. And then the second time around, you miss a field goal and it's like, man, those are good opportunities just to get on the

board and get out front because we're moving the ball well, um, getting, you know, having the sack on third down the first, was it a three and out the first drive? Yeah, we were backed up, quite a bit. Yeah. I mean, it was a good game, man. I hated that we were giving up those explosive plays. I hated that we were giving up those explosive plays. You know, there were times where it's like, Michigan was out physical in us at the line of scrimmage. I want to say we gave up 34 pressures on the day as an, you know, as an offensive line. Because you think about, you know, we give up seven sacks. You give up 34 pressures.

You look at the stats after the game. It's like, you know, Dylan's still through for 300 plus yards. Right. It just didn't feel like it in the game as you're watching the game. Yeah. Did you watch Pates thing on Sunday? I watched his. I listened to the part where he was just talking about Lincoln.

Same. Okay. I just watched the Michigan, Nebraska. part and that was his thing where like the stat line you watched dylan and i threw out the game you're like you threw for how much because there was like yeah yeah yeah yeah and um man what else was there and just like you know there was at times where you felt like michigan could have pulled away and Nebraska took advantage of bad football being played which is what you want to see it's like uh 30 to 27 you know it didn't feel as close as it was but i loved how the boys they any chance that they had to get

in the game it was happening. And then when you had the opportunity at the end of the game, like we were still there. And then you get them into, we got you guys in a what, like three third and long situations to where you guys end up converting. One more mugged up. We zone out and it's an inside zone and they get us, you know, they get a big first down. One's a screen and buddy is right there to make the play and blow it up. And he just doesn't make the play to where it's like you get them all the field.

And you might, you know, again, it would have been a drive with like what, no timeouts or something like that. But again, you're still in the situation. You're still in position to win the game. Love the fight. Listen, it's going to suck to sit in this for a bye week. But you got to hope we just, we rain hell on the Michigan State Spartans. Just keeping on the subject of Nebraska, like there were multiple times in that game

that we all looked at ourselves. I looked at the boys and I was like, this is where Michigan starts to pull away. And I think Nebraska teams of the past let that happen. A billion percent. And as much as like you see kind of in the, the Huster fan base kind of going nuclear about this is that this is Nebraska is what we do like. Respectfully and like unbiasedly, Nebraska is a more talented football team at this point. That's, that is just the reality.

And it's not like meant to be disrespectful. It is just what it is. We won the trenches area. But like even through 34 pressures, seven sex, at the end of the game, you're doing an onside kick with an opportunity. Like, it's a three-point game. And Nebraska having the ability to go down and do that, Raola, who's under pressure all game long,

doesn't have time to breathe or anything like that, still completing 71% of his passes, massive. Like the first drive, he's got three guys on him. 44 is in protection, breaks off a little bit. No one's got him anymore in protection. He has the wherewithal to get out of that, throw it to him and get an explosive play down the field. Otherwise, that drive is dead.

That's the first drive. You know, they throw a pay, he throws a pick comes out the next tough pick and great you know that was a great um i want to say they were sitting in cover too but great play by the corner yeah because even when you watch that play from the side it's like you know he's kind of giving him a look like he was man like he was going to go in maybe with uh with the with the one receiver and he just jumps on that out route tough pick tough pick and then you get the qb draw where you know Bryce hits his head on the goalpost the next play yeah and it's like as a michigan fan i look at that i'm like okay

you see the talent on the field but like if you're going to play Ohio State or Penn State or Oregon these other teams that maybe are at the same caliber level from a talent standpoint and again I'm not I'm not trying to throw shade at Nebraska's just kind of where we're at right now

it's like if you don't call timeout on fourth down and right before the end of the half and you're going to take advantage of like that Nebraska played the ball great that Hail Mary it was it was a very impressive play but don't put yourself in that position If it's fourth and 17, don't do a taunting, because that's a three and out that ended up leading to three points. And there's also a lot of things in the field you see, like the interception, like Hill number 20, like he keeps his footing, he catches that ball clean.

That's a six, right? So there's a lot of things you look at from a Michigan standpoint and be like, hey, boys, this is where we got to get better. But from like Nebraska, environment rule, I had the players, like, before the game, one kid, like walked by me and said, fuck you. And I'm like, what did you say? and he goes, you heard me, and it was a little boy. He was like, I don't know, he was a little white kid. There was like four big office alignment around him, and I'm like, all right.

And one office alignment came and checked me, like, you want to be on our field goal team during spring, and you don't want to, like, all of a sudden, you're riding in Michigan. I'm like, buddy, I went here. I went to this school. He was, nah, man, you want to, like, you could see, like, Nebraska was taking a personal fan bases are coming at my head. And it was awesome.

I walked by the student section without Willaround. Like a little small group of them see me. They start booing. the shit out of me and then I got the whole student section booing me loudly and then goes in a chant that we want Will we want Will and then Will ends up coming over

gets in the student section like there's an energy in Nebraska and if you're Nebraska it's like bro you guys are there you guys are there and this is one loss right like Rayola stud like you just got to figure out a way to not average 1.4 yards per carry on the ground

and you've got to protect your offensive line you can't take that much pressure and not moving that we start moving the pocket throwing throwing picks and stuff like that the and on the michigan side for me it's like there's a lot of drop balls out there that you see and you're like man if we had this one that have been awesome and then there's a couple like a lot of grass kind of a little dump he doesn't catch it one in the back of the end zone hits him right in the hands doesn't catch it and it's like that those are the little things we need for us personally to take that next step to where we were a couple years ago where it's like hey this is a team that can't count them

out no matter what. So I thought it was a great game. I thought it was great. I thought the fan base was awesome. It just, I'm happy to be sitting on this side. We'll see you in the Big Ten championship. I think your schedule got a little harder. We can play with anybody. Yeah. You just got to clean some things up. You got to fix the line of scrimmage. It's going to be a hard couple weeks for those boys, which is a good thing. And then, then yeah, you just got to clean up some stuff on the run defensive side. You got to clean up some stuff. But as far as effort goes, and again, it's like the, you know, how did,

you talk about Dylan's 300 yards. Oh, how did he come up with 300 yards? How are we in the game? It's like, again, the history of the Huskers, that's not a close game. Yeah. You end up not, you know, you have like the three and out, but then old buddy gets a penalty and you go down and get three out of it. Would have loved to have seen seven if my man didn't step out of the back of the end zone.

Right. But this is, look, laws just teach you the best lessons. I think this team will bounce back big time. And you got, you got Michigan State at home. You go on the road at Maryland, which Maryland is spicy. Yeah. They just beat the shit out of Wisconsin. You go at Minnesota versus Northwestern at home, have USC at home, go on the road to UCLA,

at Penn State, and then you have Iowa. Yeah. And if you're looking at this And you just let's just chalk Penn State up At Penn State it's gonna be a very difficult So let's just say loss 10 and 2 Yeah I mean everything we want

11 and 1's in front of your face right now If you want it It's just getting it done man Getting it done Go ahead Sherm Would a rematch in the Big Ten championship count as a bus and ball game? Oh yeah

Okay Yeah I just wanted to say And we played the Big Ten championship and Nebraska won that game, they would get the trophy. If there was a world where we played in preseason, are we scrimmaging the springtime,

that's the bussing ball. No, right. Every sport from here. We just sit our guys. And rules like, let's go get this one. Hey, Ariel, you're out there. Johnson, you're out to get at their boys. The mini busting trophy sits in Lincoln.

That pisses me off, too. Our equipment team, they had a buss and bowl. The equipment teams played each other the night before, and Nebraska took that one hold. They had a little of a night game. Y'all might have won the real one too. Yeah. The equipment guys, too.

I don't know the score of that game, but it sounded like it was a slacking. 18 to 8. Okay. All right. Double digit. Double digit. Double digit. Two score ball game.

Yeah. Keeping it in the Big Ten, dude, on the locker room, cultural football locker, I sat there and I was like, Brett Bilema, Illinois, they are going to handle business, Indiana. I'm not so sold on them. Indiana is putting themselves in that. upper middle class version of the big 10 right now possibly being able to be a playoff team yet again they beat these shit at illinois 63 to 10 or Indiana or yeah no Illinois I'm back I'm back um their quarterback five touchdowns like dude and now he's the heismendoza he's now the heisman

favorite like I got to put that game film on and see what really happened because I'm looking at that game and it's like Illinois plus five and a half I'm thinking about brettle be lemma what's always on my mind. Brett Bielmo, Wisconsin, 2012 Big Ten Championship because the Will is always bringing it up. And I'm thinking, this is going to happen in Champaign. Yeah, I can't believe it was that bad, bro. It was impressive, ma'am, to see that. That was, I mean, good for them.

And neither one of our teams played them this year. Yeah. I tried to tell, I was saying, too, hey, when Nebraska went out to Indiana last year, Bloomington on a sunny day, bro. They can work you. And that is what they did. Yeah. It was a deal.

I think it's crazy too. He's the favorite. Mendoza's the favorite now with the Heisman. That is nuts to me. Crazy. I mean, I haven't watched the Oklahoma Auburn game, but it seems like they were given a couple.

Did you see that substitution? I did not. No, I have not actually seen one snap at all from that game. I need to go back and watch it. That was wild. Apparently that was like. You can't use this substitution to like,

you know for deception for like a trick play and what they essentially did is he's coming off the receiver just sits down there at the bottom of the screen so they think he's off like it's a substitution and so nobody lines up on him and they just throw it out there to him they get a touchdowns like a trick like a trick play like uh field goal yeah he's just on the sideline and they just kind of throw it and they counted it this is it was good yeah but like and then uh hugh freeze yeah Hugh freeze Hugh freeze was going crazy they were going aves shit bro really you can't do like in offensive and defensively, like, you can't manipulate the substitution rule for like a trick play. Yeah. Yeah, that, um, hey, get it how you live.

Get it how you live. I saw the question to John Mateer is like, what's the difference between you and Johnny Mansell? Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to church tomorrow. Did you hear Johnny Mansell on nightcap? I heard some clips, but not about in response to this. I thought he had a very good response. I thought he had a great response. What do you say? Tells about how he grew up going to church And he's like I you know I see what he's doing it You know good for him It's like he's playing really good ball

Oklahoma's got an awesome football team He's like I think it like from his perspective He's like you know all these years later Like just getting to still be in conversations About what I did on the football Shows how much Johnny did in football Yeah he's like so that's cool But a very humbling

Very good perspective type of answer And then giving John a tear all the flowers There were other good clips from that podcast with Johnny Hey, that's growth That is growth That's growth It seems like Johnny's

Found himself a new A new layer of depth He's just he's really handling it well He's getting in the world Yeah, he knows balls I'm sure he sits with himself a lot now Because we had him on the bus And he sat there and told us

I have no regrets And I remember sitting there Just thinking to myself Buddy, you've got to You've got to Because he fumbled a serious situation That like you can never get back now And for him to sit there

and have the growth, not get triggered by John Mateer's comments. Like, he's going to be all right. And that's awesome to see because you always want, you know, you want to work out for everybody. You want to know what's going to be fun is this Red River robbery coming up. Yeah. That is going to be spicy. I mean, Archmanney's finding himself in a villain situation.

Last year was a blowout. Who does Texas and Oklahoma have this week? I'll find out. Yeah, can you find that out? While he's finding that out. He gets me off of that room. Yeah, that was so dumb. him standing over old buddy in the end zone bro it's a Sam Houston State like listen I

there's a part of him just trying to get his powers back right exactly you got to you get the way you get you got to you get in his money he's like I got to get the week to give me some power so I can go haunt other people's dreams more powerful people and it's like I see it and it's like I understand why he did it he probably looks back and is like damn that that's not a good look I think he addressed it in his press conference too they asked him about and he's like yeah my mom give me an earful about it already already to give me here. He's like, that was probably a little overboard. Like, it was very uncharacteristic of what we believe Archer's character is.

And at the end of day, it's like, yeah, emotions take over. I'm sure, like, if we're just in his head for a little bit, how loud the noises, Heisman frontrunner at the beginning of the season, has a bad game against Ohio State, doesn't show a whole lot against cupcakes. It's like he wants to get something going. And it's very difficult to, like, not show that fiery emotion when things are not going your way. Texas plays Florida and OU plays Kent State. I mean, it'll be a good test for, honestly, Texas.

Is Florida dead animal? I mean. I mean, yeah, Billion Napers live in a borrowed time right now. They had good beefing, like, didn't Miami score late? They'll be too. Yeah, Miami scored late. That was again, another one. It's like being, when we were just being at the busable,

and then we didn't have Wi-Fi on the plane back. We weren't able just to keep up with everything that was going on, which that was kind of the hard part, which was the tough part, because you see, it's like when you see Maryland blowout Wisconsin, and you see Missou in South Carolina playing and you're wanting to watch that game. All these games going on.

Auburn, Oklahoma, you're hearing about it, and you just can't check the clips and the highlights of everything happening. That was hard. And then you were like, Indiana's beating these shit out of Illinois. I wonder how. How is it going down like this?

The end of the Memphis, Arkansas game was apparently. Memphis beating Arkansas. Crazy. Because it was the bust and bowl while, like that game was going on while that game was on. That was kind of, did you guys watch any of it? Or were you able to watch it? Which game?

Memphis, Arkansas. It sucks, like, exactly what we'll say is, like, no Wi-Fi and the plane. Then you get home and it's like Sunday, it's like family until noon

and then you gotta watch NFL. And I'll tell you this too. I don't know how you felt, but I was exhausted. Yeah. When I got home. Emotionally, physically, spiritually,

like exhausted. I like couldn't wait to go to bed. I felt great. I was tired the next morning a little bit, but like my knee was hurting a little bit. My back was all the time from saying that fucking turf the whole time. I'm sure all that pain would have been gone

if I was in the winning situation But I was just exhausted Because I'm sitting there And like I remember sitting on the plane Like trying to contain my own excitement Because I could see you I was literally sitting across from you I know I thought you're gonna sit back on the couch

But at the same time I'm thinking myself And my fucking God we won that game I thought I was gonna get to kick my legs up For the flight home I'm trying to get comfy Like hey I'm just gonna see her for a second I'm gonna go back And then yeah and then we get a whole competition I'm gonna be right

Going back to the Memphis Arkansas game, there was a offensive pass interference or a defensive pass interference that like flip the game. But like the DB, like he didn't turn around or anything, but the wide receiver like put his arms out and let like level the DB and he caught the ball for a touchdown. But they called DPI rather than OPI and it was like how is this even allowed? Like it the it was one of the worst calls I've seen in a very long time. The DPI and OPR are so weird because it's like you. teach the defender like you save yourself by turning back to the football anytime your back is away like towards the receiver and not the ball like a lot of times you're going to get called and then a receiver it's like if if it's a shorter throw you got to come back into the

guy to make it feel like something so yeah that sucks I want to see that play for sure because I mean I thought the razorbacks were going to kind of be a little something this year that on Arkansas yeah they looked good in both of their losses these last two weeks but I mean the offense looks good offense looks good What happened to Baylor? Just. ASU. That's what happened to Baylor.

ASU and Baylor just cannot stop the run. We cannot stop the run. And that running back, I think he's like seven or eight in the nation and rushing right now. Yeah. Like 400-something yards. Like he's a stud,

that brown kid. And we pack the box. It doesn't matter. Can't stop the run. We can score points. Our quarterback is great. And we fought to get back and tie the game

with like a minute left. And then ASU just handed the ball off, handed the ball off and got the game winning field goals. It's all right. It stings. It stings, but it's also like, as a, I guess an ASU fan, I'm like, yeah, good for them getting back on track. Yeah. Because everyone, as soon as Mississippi State game happened, everyone's kind of like, all right, we're done with ASU. I just move on immediately.

I got more scared. As soon as I saw that game, I saw that we were up next on their schedule. I went, fuck. Because they're going to come back with. They should have won that game too. They should have beat Mississippi State and they go in fucking zero again. So I know we already broke that down.

JP, I'd like to get your comments on Clemson v. Syracuse. Clemson loses 3421 to Fram Brown and the boys up in the northeast. Fram Brown, I tried talking about earlier in the year. You did, you did. They got fined for injuries, for faking injuries. Syracuse did? Yeah, 25,000. Smart.

Whatever it was, probably smart. Which was poor move by Cade, like, because Syracuse, wiped him and in kate's press conference after he like immediately brings up the injuries and it's like dude you can't point the finger if you lose by that much it sucks because normally this would be awesome but we've lost every single week climpson has lost so but what i will say dabbo you see him like crying on the field and everything i did he did it a couple times and he get emotional in the yeah you saw that coming too in his press conference earlier in the week but dude i'm telling you if climpson fires him which i don't think they will because it's he has a massive

buyout. But if they fire him, it will send them back 30 years with their program. You know, a similar comment to that was Dave. Yeah. Dave was on Big New and kickoff saying the same thing. Like, you forget. Like, the standard for Clemson is very high because of the success they've had in the last 10 years. But you forget where you're at before that. No one talks about, no one cared about Clemson. Gabo brought you back. And the roster is good. So he's truly one coordinator higher away from like Clemson being good again. But the fairer, Fans are fed up. Fet up.

He doesn't help himself when he has those quotes of like, why is our standard? Why don't you compare our standard to people who don't win nothing? It's like, bro, because you have a standard. Exactly. You're in that category. You're in the tier one category because you are a top dog. He's the only national championship coach that plays a victim card.

It's like, dude, you won two. Got two of them. You won two. Like you should be full ownership, full accountability. There will be a statue of you. anybody says because you're so confident in everything you've done. Right. It doesn't seem confident in the things he's done.

And I'm like, bro. Yeah. You're ruining your tenure, but. It's just you, you see press conferences and the way head coaches like handle those things. And on one side of the coin, you have the victim or why, why are we getting, you know, what about the standard of the guys teams? There's so many teams out there who hadn't won anything.

Right. Yada, yada, yada. And then you see it's like a coach Ben Johnson for the Bears when he's calling out his team. We're not practicing like a championship football team right now. That's why you're seeing the product that we have to where you're kind of pressing the culture and the process and everything else because that's how that's how psychotic you should be about what your standard is. Right. And he doesn't seem to do that. He doesn't.

I get the, hey, you want to fire me, I'll go win somewhere else. Like if you feel the pressure and you kind of address that. When you're talking about, hey, you're losing, you don't want to go to, why are you so hard on me when there's a bunch of programs out of here who don't win a lot? It's like, bro, because you are a winner. And the roster is stacked. You put yourself in the position to be judged. Right. You don't hit the portal because to you it's culture, it's building.

Now you have a, your loaded roster recruits that you have that are all juniors and seniors. Like, this is the veteran football team that you want to sit here with with Kate Klubnick at the helm. Like, this is the roster. You got the roster. And at the beginning of the year, everyone was just like this team. They're a national championship caliber team. Their offensive line, their defense, they're going to be nasty. Like, no one saw this coming.

No one saw it coming. No. Oh, dude, yeah. Except for me and Cade. Yeah. I thought Cade was going to play better in ACCC play, but now I feel for him. Like, I hate Clemson, but I also, I don't like to see kids just get bashed in the media. Yeah.

And you can tell it's in his head now. And it's like, oh, man, this is, you hate to see it get even worse for him, except for us. I hope he has one completion. You calling Clemson being bad this year. You to Clemson is like Will to the Chief. Like eventually you're going to be right. One day I'll be right. Yeah.

And like 2025, you guys are both right. Yeah. Both right. The only other thing on the negativity stuff with like dabbo, how he's handled himself in the press conferences, fans too. Like I think it's just such a weak way out like when your team's doing bad to just start like turning against everyone else.

It's just, it's like a coward move. But it's, and it's way harder to remain optimistic, like trust the process. but that's what it takes to succeed. And everybody hates the hard way. Yeah. So some of the things,

some of the things that Dabo is saying, I don't, it's what I envision Will talks about towards the end of Bo Polini, was Bo handling it the same way as Dabo was when it was like kind of coming to an end. Because you, not in the victim way, but in the, like fuck you, you want to fire me.

I'm standing right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fire me in my face. Yeah. Like with Bo, it wasn't, it wasn't this it's like yeah it's like using this victim card

Bo is almost like facing off against everybody else for us to where you're ready you want to get out there and put a product in the bill for coach Bo. Bo just had like a we're sitting

he'd get it to where it felt like you're sitting across the table from whether it's the fan base national media but it wasn't like why is our standard this and that

you know what I mean? Yeah. It wasn't the YS there were no tears there's no crying Bo Polini, there were no tears Right He's taking his hat off

He's got photos out there Where it seems like he's swinging a hat Trying to hit a referee The crazy That's the Youngstown Mafia That's Bo Poliola That's a Youngstown Ohio Forever will be underrated

The crazy part about Bo Polini's firing Just looking back Retroactively is the record Never lost Or like he never went under 9-9-bed That's what people are saying If you get into this world Of firing dabbo

You're gonna set a program back Because it's like look back on it. We lost games we should not have lost. And then when we were on the big stage, the Big Ten championship that I recall a lot, is like we would get blown out to where it felt embarrassing. So that's what the fans, that's what ultimately pushed him out. And then you see what happened after that because you had a really good head coach who understood culture, who understood all these things. That's kind of the, that's what you'd be doing if you're Clemson, the firing dabbo. Like, yes, they are off to a terrible start. We're starting his career there. But you

look at what he's done and it's like bro it's the grass ain't always greener you got yeah imagine where and I do believe rule is the guy like I think Nebraska's on a fast track to becoming a prominent program again but imagine where Nebraska would be of Boja State yeah yeah you didn't have to go through those other two before you had to go find another guy dynasty yeah we didn't have a dynasty yeah we'd have a dynasty usually be the chiefs of college football

that's what I mean it's like for certain programs and certain and coaches, like for Dabo, it's like the famous quote of, you can't think in days, you have to think in decades. Yeah. It's like, are you going to let this one bad season? It's like Florida State last year, they wanted Mike Norville gone. Now this year, Florida State is one of the better teams and it's like- One of the better teams.

Yeah, Florida State might be the team. You're a higher or two away from the whole thing turning around. As long as you got the talent on the roster, you feel good about the talent. And it's like the noise to Dabo is like, yeah, it could just truly be noise. Like the fans could be mad and he just handles it differently. it could go away quickly even if they don't win a game the rest of the year it's like yeah we've fucked up but like hey let me just show you this resume real quick culture culture is going to figure this out the next year goes the same way then you got to get them out of there but yeah it's tough man

what's going on in uh south carolina a whole lot of bad tackling oh we had i think a 40 grade of 45 on our tackling we didn't we didn't get to watch the game the first text i see on the plane was my mom saying horrible game, nothing to be positive about. That was before I even saw the score. And my mom is the opposite of me when we watch a game. Like we could be winning 21-0 and have a bad play. She would be, why do they do that? I'm like, mom, you just got to relax.

But it's the tackling, dude, the tackling and the penalties. I think we had 18 penalties and still only lost by whatever it was, nine points. So it's frustrating because it's like, can you just clean up half of it? and then you can find some wins. Yeah. Receivers are starting to show some promise, the younger guys, but it's all the little crap. And you watch the game?

Yeah, just like the, not the full entire thing, but like the key moments. How was the offensive line in those recaps you saw? Yeah, I guess I forgot to mention. We had negative like 20 rushing yards. So not great. Yeah, bad. Not great.

Yeah, negative 20 rushing yards, 18 penalties, all these things and lost by. And we were winning going into the fourth quarter. Which is just in my head, I'm like, okay, we're that close. Like, if you fix one of these things, we're winning these games. Right, right. And so it's tough, though. But it's the same thing.

You got to trust the culture. Like, you can't just lose your head. And you just got to trust Beamer has the locker room still fired up. You make October magic. Everybody forgets about September. We sat on the locker room with Josh Pate. And we were talking about the Utah Texas Tech game. And Josh was like, wouldn't it be awesome if one of these teams blow out the other?

So it gives like the Big 12 more of a, hey, this is our team possibly. Well, it happened this week, Texas Tech won 3410 versus Utah. And they did it in, what, three quarters with their backup quarterback? Backup quarterback. And so do we believe in Texas Tech now as a question? Is Texas Tech a contender? Are they the obvious Big 12 team? Are they going to do anything in the playoffs?

And you're a big 12 guy, sure that's why I'm kind of looking at you. The thing that I will say about Texas Tech that they have never really had before is a defensive line. And Texas Tech has always been able to put up points. Their wide receivers are scary. Their backup quarterbacks putting up Numbies.

Like, offense looks great. But their defense looks really strong. And a lot of people were talking about that Utah quarterback going into the game. They had that guy in a blender. the entire game. I can't remember his name to save my life. Dampier.

Yeah. Was playing super solid going into that game. And then he just looked lost against him. He is their best player. Lee leads every game in passing and rushing for them. Oh yeah. Very salty player. And Tech's defensive front is just strong this year.

Their linebackers are swarming. Utah could not do anything offensively. And so that's what scares me about. tech because you let's say a team like iowa state a team like baylor uh that can put up points but do they have that defense and i don't think they do and i think you need that going into the playoffs and playing some of these SEC teams that like we saw with Auburn versus Baylor they threw the ball nine times you're going to need it against any of these teams that come out of the power four conferences it's like ACC they're their top guys with Miami and florida state

Georgia Tech, I know is in the conversation being up there. You're going to need as much of a complete team as possible because it's not going to just be shootouts all the time. You got Big Ten with like Oregon, Ohio State, Michigan, and Nebraska. Then in the SEC, you got what? You got Georgia. You got Tennessee, potentially Bama. Who else in the SEC?

Vandy. Yeah, Vandy. Missouri. Missouri. Yeah. And yeah, Texas Tech. it. Vandy looks really good.

They look really good. And I just keep going back to that conversation advocate where he's like, if we win the national championship, you got to take the office line and Diego to Vegas. You said yes? Yes, I said yes.

Their LSU game will be massive. I looked at him in the eyes. I said, buddy, I have a lot of respect for you and I've been where you're at of like seeing your team and believe he. I'm telling you from the outside perspective, you don't have the team to win a national championship. He told everyone that right after two.

I'm sure. The law. Is that me this week, I said that I said that, but you guys just, I love you. Your photos in the locker room. Yeah.

Yeah, it is. It is here. My photos in the locker room. It's like. And I think LSU good games this week, though.

Like, thank God I won that Michigan bet because I'm going to have to pay, that's a lot of money to pay for those boys to go to Vegas. Their schedule is nuts. They have a hard.

Their schedule is hard. How are you feeling about Michigan for the rest of the year? I went back and looked at their, their schedule. I feel very strong. about a 10-win season. I think, like, Maryland's on the schedule.

That looks pretty spicy. I think we're going to learn a lot about them in a few weeks when they go to USC because they have to go on the road again. Oh, you guys go to California. They have a lot of, like, potential in there. But for me, it's like, I love to see the passing game,

and I feel like we're still, Pekyll had a great take on this. I think we're still seeing like 60 to 75% of what Michigan could be, what it really is. they're still like figuring out who they are obviously they're a very run dominant team they're good at running the ball they do a great job of like basically holding the control of the game on the defensive side of the ball and the opposite side of the ball but i personally i would love like seeing bryce in the flashes like i don't think i've ever been so excited to watch a college football player and i'm just waiting for that game where it's like he's just dicing them up from a like from a throwing standpoint that's what gets me excited so the the result of the of this year, I could definitely see 11 and 1, 10 and 2. A lot of things, like, we have to, our gameplay has to

get better. But, like, just taking this game, like, on the road, like, you leave a lot of points on the board. You give up a lot of points to just bad football and bad game management and certain situations that can all be corrected. You don't have your head coach. So there's a lot of things you look at and be like, okay, no, this

is not being rude. They're not trying to be like, that game is a lot closer than it should have been. And if we clean up these things, it's how the, how the, score should have been you know what I'm saying so we got a buy a week great you got Wisconsin at home which is awesome but then you go on the road to USC I'm hoping when you're in almost the middle of spooktober you're sitting there and you watch it then play against USC like that's the team because you see against Central Michigan you did a

team that's on the rise Nebraska like you go and handle the game you win the game but you dominate in a fashion that's like okay if you take that away what do we have so if I could see a more well-rounded offense that's what I'll like be like hey maybe this year is the year Because I think the difference between, you can speak for yourself, but just the game of the Michigan Nebraska, like everyone in Nebraska is like year three rule. This is the year. This is where we completely turn around and go.

Like to me, it's like I love the foundation that Michigan's at right now. And I love where they could be, you know, in the very near future. Like I think this portal year is going to be so important about like, know what your, know what your issues are and just attack it. Like you have the fund, you have the money. you're getting $50,000 from busing. Like, that's a kicker. Get you a kicker right, babe.

That's for you boys right there. Y'all got a kicker. Yeah, we got to get. That guy is crazy, baby. He'll be in the NFL. And hey, I saw him too. Before the game, I go, best player on the team. He's like, stop.

Like, bro, I'm serious. Like, you are elite. It's unbelievable. But he'll be in the NFL next year. So I just look at him like, bro, you could go and throw some crazy money around and get some elite wide receivers that might not be in you,

the correct way right now. One in Texas. Charge it to the game. Charge it to the game. What year is, was it Haynes or Justin? He is a junior. He is a,

he is a monster. Well, yeah, because I saw the Big Ten, he's leading the Big Ten by over 100 yards and rushing. And I was like, I wonder what it is nationally. He's four nationally.

He's tied for fourth. And then there's like two smaller schools. One kid's got like 700 yards or something like that. But that kid is a hell of a player. He's incredible. He's gone for over 100 every game in a touchdown. Yeah. He's a junior.

He's a junior. And I love. love that all the reports about this kid is like he's intentional about what he eats he's intentional about us he's like a no nonsense guy even in the locker room after the game like bro you bald he has appreciate you like he's he's already thinking about recovery the next thing like that kid is a true pro and then it's but it's like then you got marshal who's a five-star who broke like a 70-yarder in that game like he is a sophomore i believe he's a soft like so it makes you feel good and then we just got the number one running back in this class

coming in something hitter I forget his first name his need to know is his last name yeah but like he's like he's another kid you look at and he in high school you're like fuck we're doing it again like like good running backs and like this off it's a line too like Evan link the left tackle he wasn't supposed to be the left tackle starter was Babelow who was going to be he hurt his knee they were really high on him and he's done an amazing job like cripping the center like after the game we're seeing the locker room and they go the best game you've ever played like you see that they're gaining confidence. It's so similar to last year.

Like a lot of question marks on the office line. They drop one early. Like they did against Texas last year. They did the same thing against Oklahoma. And you're like, oh, what is the office line? Well, they're just getting better and better. And arguably our best office alignment's been hurt for the last couple of games. So I'm to answer your question as long-winded as I always am.

I feel very strong about the season. Yeah, I think you, like if I was like observing and judging Michigan, you guys just need more consistency in your drives. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like you guys pop big ones, right? Like I could see like if I'm on Nebraska's defense, like when I was with Tennessee and Dean Pees, he'd always come in and put together the explosive plays.

In back, these five runs right here came up with 200 yards. Right. And they talk in a way of like, you get this off the board. You play consistently in the run game. Like we have, we're in a much better position as a defense, but we can't give up the explosives. it's if you guys can put drives together and then get you know three or seven out of these drives and then you're you're uh you have that with popping the big ones because i feel like it's like the offense felt like it gets stagnant at times and a lot of the two is just dropping the ball i know i know

like you guys are you guys are good you guys are solid along the line of scrimmage you got a hell of a running back you got a future superstar of a quarterback right as long as he just continues to plays as long as he continues to play his game doesn't try to force the issue if he feels like he's in a moment where he's got to make a play and he'll kind of throw it up to the defense. He's really good

but again you're, it's like the talent on the outside just catch the ball. I know. Well, I mean, yeah, you go back to the game, it's like number nine.

And defensively, it's just discipline. Yeah, well, there was a lot of broken plays because of how much pressure was taking place. Like when we were getting to Rayola, he gets out and at that point like

the perfect one is the first drive like 44 like leaks out to the side. There's no one there because everyone's so far downfield at this point. So he's been in protection and it's just like, yeah, you've got to do a couple of things. But I was very, I loved the defense. I thought the defense played incredible. I thought they did a lot of like watching Emmett Johnson the three weeks with you,

Cincinnati game, you pop on to Akron or, you know, Houston Christian, you pop on those games like you watch Emmett Johnson, not one guy is making the tackle on him. And so he gets tripped up. Then a guy comes in and saves a day. And I thought Michigan did a great job in space, getting the guy to the ground, whether it's five yards six or seven yards he's getting the guy to the ground which i was really proud of and then on the the drop standpoint you're right like samage i i loved him and i loved his ad to before the game i love him as a person he just had two drops in this game at least two drops um goodwin

the number nine in the back of the end zone early in the game like that's a well-placed ball by bryce that's that should have been a touchdown right there um donovan mcculley number one he has that deep pass where they ended up calling it incomplete they watch the replay and everyone's on the sideline going, if he's wearing white cleats, that's a catch. And if it's called the catch, it's probably a catch because that's how, like, close it was. So you see it as a Michigan fan being like, bro, we're right there. Because you're right, there's a couple three and out. And there's an explosive play. But then the fourth quarter, we go down, take nine minutes off the clock, 12 plays, and have a couple good throws in there, sustained, good drive, like, just running the ball consistently.

It's like, that's where we need to be. Like, go back to being the boa constrictor where you just like, you just force teams to quit because they can't get the ball and when they do, there's that defense on the other side that just goes nuts. Because as the game's unfolding, you look at the time of possession.

Like, Nebraska was like, 25 minutes to like 15 at one point. Like, it was... Yeah. Nebraska dominated in the time of possession because you guys would pop those fucking explosives. Right. Like, you, they went down and got three

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And we're literally just not going over there because I don't believe besides the two teams, there was anybody in that stadium that cared more about that game than you and I. I truly. and maybe more than some of the players. You know? Some of those guys were dressed,

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What's up, boys? How we doing, babe? In the car! Sorry, I had a meet. This Monday thing, man, I'm committed. Trust me, I'm committed to this segment. I look forward to it. My Mondays have been totally crazy.

I had a flight in New York for a meeting. but I'm not missing this with the boys. So we're going to have to do it from the car today. Hopefully you can hear me good. And let's rip. I love it, Greg. Well, listen, we were going to move past the fact that your flight didn't work out last week. You left the boys.

It's all good because we're all about adversity around here, do we handle it. We take on the chin and we keep moving forward. We keep moving forward. Talk to me about Eagles and Rams. Hang on. Hang on. Time out. Can I just open up my first question?

I want to know how his team did when they came back from their little, their little break. This is the first game back. They had the bi-week last week. I know, but I want to know how is tempo. How was practice? Did they hit the feel like he wanted to see him? That's the most important thing.

Was it a down week? Did you have to correct them after the practice? Like, hey, we ain't coming out here just to fiddle our thumbs. We need a sense of urgency. Yeah, I think you're spot on. I think maybe the first practice returning last Monday, maybe a little, we had to get on them a little bit just to get the blood flowing a little bit,

get the juices going, get back in the groove. I thought Tuesday we had a really good day. Wednesday review day before the game we had a really good day. Wednesday night did a nice video. We do it via Zoom. We did a nice late night team video session corrections from the week in practice. We record all of our practices. So we did a little team correction, did some game review stuff from former weeks to just clean everything up.

And then I wouldn't say we played great. We played well. 20 to nothing. Defense played really well. Team we played had some good player. Oh, we're losing them. I would say we played well. Good and not great is what you'll put on the,

you'll put on it. Yeah, I want us to be more dominant. Like I want us to be more assertive. It took us, it was only 6-0 at half. Couple turnovers. That's been a problem for us this year. We've got to get cleaned up. But defensively, we played really well, which was exciting.

I love that. Say that again, Mitch? Greg, you played my buddy from college. You played his team this past week. Oh, really? Nice. What was he in the team, Mitch? I don't know what high school or middle school he works out.

So the program that we played, their high school team, so it's called Providence Day School. They're right up the road from us. To their credit, like I give credit where credits do, they've got a, really good football program. Like their high school is loaded. They produce a lot of really good college kids. They're, if they're not the best team in the whole state,

they're one of the top handful. They do a good job. So I give credit where credits do. So it was a good win for us. They're a good football school. They take football serious, as do we. And it was a game that we wanted to win. Is it too early in the process

looking at these middle school kids? because like, you know, testosterone is now finally getting into the body. You're seeing these kids develop. Are you looking at any of these kids on your roster going, this kid's D1? This kid's going the distance possibly. You know, there's kids that have those qualities. Like there's kids that have those, you know, characteristics.

What's so hard about the middle school is, you know, these kids are 13, 14 years old. Some of the really big ones, and we don't have a ton of these on our team, but like as you look around the league, the really big, like early blue, you ask yourself like, all right, how much more are they going to grow? And then some of the other kids that are more on the early side, you say,

hey, they've got a lot of good qualities, they're good players. How big are they going to get? So I think football is just so hard because even if you have the skill sets, even if you show those qualities of being a good receiver, a good defensive back, as you guys know, so much of the game and opportunity at the higher level is just how big are you, how tall are you, how much do you weigh, how fast do you run? and I think at 13, 14 years old, it's hard to predict for most of these kids what they're going to look like at 17. Yeah.

Yeah, we ran into that problem when I was playing for the Scottsdale Shockers. We had a kid named James Raina. I have no idea what he's doing to this day. But he was about 5, 6, 5, 7, and he was like 8 years old. He was like a tall 8 year old. He could run the hell out of the rock. Fast forward to him being a senior in high school, he's the same height. So that you always got to be cautious about giving out a green fly.

Hey, this kid's going to be the one. going to be the absolute one. What is the, what's the scouting report we got on this, this upcoming game this week for you guys? What are the team keys to success? So, the number, biggest focus today. So I'm literally on my way back to my airport, back to the airport to fly home to get back for practice. There's no days off, boys. You know the deal. So we got our first Monday. This is our first practice back after last week's game. We get the kids the weekends off. We've gotten a little soft. days middle school. We should practice seven days a week. But anyway, our biggest thing is we've got

to clean up like our stuff. We've turned the ball over six times at three games. Six. Too many. We've got to protect the ball. We've got to get back to our basics. The one thing our kids do, and I've told you guys how much we value this, and our kids have answered the bell. We play extremely hard. Our kids play fast. They run to the ball. We tackle. We block. We finish. Like all the things that we stress, we've done it. We've, our kids have really answered and done a good job. We need to play cleaner ball. We got to protect the ball assignments.

It's early in the year. They're young. All of our effort going forward these next couple weeks is going to be like, we got to clean up our ball. It doesn't matter who we play. It doesn't matter what they do. If we clean up the little stuff that we can control, we'll be hard to beat.

It's got to feel good sitting undefeated and knowing all the issues you have and they're all internally fixable things. It's not a talent issue. Talk about six turnovers and three games. What is the total turnover margin you guys got going on in your team? Yeah, so I'd say we're probably even. We have four, six mix of fumbles and picks. So I think for the season, we're even.

Last time I ran the numbers, I think we're six and six. So I feel pretty good defensively about taking the ball away. Offensively, I've got to have a little bit more. A little bit more focused on that area. Now, when you're coaching these middle schoolers, Coach Greg Olson, is this a situation to where you challenge the offensive players to carry a football around school hours, during school hours? This seems like a prime.

I want to see you carrying the football anytime I see you. Lockroom, bathroom, doesn't matter, and guys are going to come trying to knock it out. Yeah, it's like, remember in the program? Yeah. You guys remember the movie of the program? When he carried the ball around, they knocked it out. in class and they started like a riot down the stairs or covering the fumble.

Yeah. I feel like we might need to, I don't think our kids are ready for the program yet. You think we can watch the program with middle school kids? I think so. I think there's a situation where you get your running backs and quarterback carrying a ball around and they might see Luke Kikley down the hall and you better protect yourself because Coach Keeckley is going to get the ball out. That's the biggest thing is making sure that you and Coach Keekeley are at the school.

I don't know how often you're inside those hallways, but if you could somehow dress down to look like a middle school kid and just kind of walk up and punch that thing out, you get that on video, put it in a team meeting by boys. Do you think this is how we're going to be successful? No, on the line, everybody outside right now. I'll be honest. I like it.

I like it. I think you're on to something. You know, every once in a while, you got to, we used to say you got to slit a throat. You know, every once in a while, you got to slit a throat. You got to reset the standard. And I think carrying the ball around and then hiring people throughout the course of the day. Like can we get different teachers in on it?

Can we get the administration at the school, the principal? Can we get them kind of come punch, peanut punch, rip the backside point, make sure the front tips are higher than the back? Like, can we make sure we test them throughout the entire day going between math and science and make sure there's a good cup the wrist when there's traffic? Can we get two hands on the ball? Yeah. Maybe no better way to do it than in the hallways.

I think you're on to something. Yeah. You got to get, it's got to be a whole team thing, especially when you're talking about how small your school is. We don't have a lot of kids there. Not everybody just gets into that. Okay,

teachers administration, if you're going to be like that, then we got to make sure we're all kind of carrying the flag as making sure our football team is as good as possible. Because the standard is the standard. You guys have set one. Are we ready to move to the less important NFL? We can move to the NFL.

I do need a pregame speech from coach, Olson being like, hey, gentlemen, every once in a while you got to slit somebody's throat. Yeah. This game's the game. Yeah. You know what I mean? I need that line in there with a bunch of middle schoolers. Yeah, kick the parents out of the locker room.

Get out of their parents. Take the juice boxes and the oranges. They'll get it when they earn it. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm not sure if I'm not sure if I can use that line. It's a Christian school.

I think I get a few else. We'll tone down the free game speech. That's me and you, that's you and I kind of talking about. Yeah. No one watches a show anyway. No one's going to see that. So it's all good. It'll work out.

In the locker room, we got to be a little bit more of age appropriate with our messaging. Sometimes I lose my mind a little bit. I'll be the first to admit. But I at least am trying. Yes. That's all that matters. Which is all you can ask for. Well, let's get to the NFL.

So the game you called was the Eagles and the Rams. Eagles ended up winning that game 33 to 26. The score doesn't tell the story, right? have 26 at half, they have 26 the end of the game, and they hold what, they hold the Eagles to, what, 40 yards of offense in the first half? Like, tell me, give me your bird's eye view of how this whole game went down and finally the Eagles just go, fuck it. Let's take over. Yes, so I think it came down to two things. I think it came down to in the first half, they asked Jalen Hertz and the offense to do virtually nothing in the passing game. And exactly why, I'm not exactly sure. I think that the Rams had

a chance to put the game away. They had multiple red zone trips, multiple field position advantage that they settled for field goals. At the final part of the get, you know, they were four for six with field goals, obviously the last two, being blocked by Philly and obviously won the game.

So settling for field goals, I thought was a huge issue. I thought a couple times they could have been more aggressive, couldn't put the game away. And then Philly in the second half, put the game and put the ball in the hands of Jalen hurts. He played really, well. They settled down some protection issues after they lost Lane Johnson. They put in Fred Johnson, who was the second, he was the second backup right tackle. So you factor he's the fourth right

tackle on the team, did a really good job in the second half, settling them down in protection. And they started throwing the ball to AJ Brown and DeBonte Smith and Dallas got her. And then obviously the two big men inside blocked two field goals on back-to-back possessions of the Rams. And they were able like they've done now 19 out of 20 times in a row. They've found a way to win, even if they haven't played their best ball. Yeah, do you think that there should be any concern on the Rams side? Because I think from the NFC standpoint, like people looked at the Rams as like maybe a tier two. And now as we get a little farther in the season, obviously the score didn't go the way they wanted.

But you're watching the first half of that game. And you're like, oh, are the Rams like number two to the Packers? Obviously, the Packers drops. We'll talk about that. But if you're the Rams, if you're Sean McVeigh, what is your message to the team at this point? I think the Rams are pretty good. Yeah. I know yesterday's, I think it's a tough loss,

and I know they're flying back, you know, to the West Coast just gutted that they let that game slip away. But I think you'd take a step back and you say, for most of the game, we did exactly what we wanted to do. We didn't finish in the red zone. And they got stopped on a fourth down try. In the third, fourth quarter, they got stopped on a fourth and one.

They ran it right up the middle. and didn't get it. So I think if you're the Rams, you're saying, I've got a great defense, I'm really good up front. For most of the game, we played well. And offensively, if even one of those red zone possessions,

we don't settle for a field goal, and we end up converting there inside the, you know, a goal-to-go situation with a touchdown. We win the game. So I think early in the season, a coach like McVeigh is pulling out all the positives. He's pulling out all the good.

And I think when you watch them, and we saw it unfold in live, you know, a lot of timing, like, they're pretty good. They did a lot of really good things. They just have to find, if you're going to beat a team like Philly, you have to put them away early because if you let them hang around, they've proven to be really hard to beat. Right, especially being able to out physical you in the second half. It's kind of, it's like if Philly and last year it was Philly in the line,

you get in the second half of that team, that offensive line, the physicality of the game, they'll start to lean on you and take over. What was your make? There's a clip going viral. I feel like right now of Jalen Hertz's reaction after Philly blocks a field goal and they take it back to the house. Like, again, that kick right there, Rams make it, number one, so sad for all the betters out there as far as Rams plus two and the Rams.

What was it, plus two and a half? It was actually three and a half. So we were right there. So no matter if you make the field goal or not, you're like, oh, Rams covered. Yeah, they might win this game. That has money, baby. And they just got one blocked the possession before. It's like, surely this isn't going to happen again.

And they block it, take it back to the house. They lose the cover. But Jalen has this reaction, whether it's a stoic reaction or where he's, you know, he's not like celebratory. What do you make as somebody who played the game and you watch that reaction go down of a clip that's just going viral and everybody's having to take on it? Yeah, I think that's what we've come to see from Jalen Hertz. He's not going to ride the emotions good or bad of the game.

I think it's kind of part of his play style. I think it's what it's allowed him to weather what he has in his college career and the ups and downs he went through there and the adversity and now obviously with what he's accomplished in the league. I think that even keel, he's never the biggest personality and he's never at the first half he could have just packed it up and went home

because they were struggling so bad. I think that's really one of his superpower. So I don't ever expect him to show a lot of emotion. I don't think it's who he is. I don't think it's his style and I respect him for it. I think that is such a good quality out of the leader, out of the quarterback. things are going to go bad in the league, things are going to go good.

But just knowing that your quarterback is just always going to be the same guy and you're never going to be able to tell the score based on his body language. I think we all wish we had a little bit more of us. I know that's not a strength of mine. But I'm impressed by Jalen and really just his whole demeanor and the way he's handled himself. I give him a lot of credit. Yeah.

When you're covering the game, like do you feel like the range? were able to expose something offensively with the Eagles. Like when you watch the Eagles and people talk about how do you beat the Eagles? How do you make is it, is it jailing through the air? Is it making them one dimensional? Obviously, you want to stop the run with Sequan Barkley. But from your vantage point, what do you see when you watch the Eagles if you're an opponent watching their tape? When the Eagles are at their best, which I think was the second half of yesterday,

it was a combination of you're always going to want to get the ball to Seacquan, right? The run game is always going to be a key element. Anytime you're talking about a team, you know, running back that good and obviously with the offensive line that Philly has. But I think when they go too heavy with Sequan and it becomes so overly run game, I think is when they get out of whack. So I think in the second half, it became a mix of Seypuan, a lot more pass, a lot more play action, drop back stuff,

get the ball to A.J. Brown one-on-one on the outside and test these corners. Hit, you know, DeBonte Smith in the slot on a lot of these corner option routes, third down conversions, fourth down conversions like they did. And then I think activating Jalen Hertz as a designed runner, we've seen him, you know, the first two games, especially he didn't have a designed run call for him. It was all scramble and improv off of the pass. And he's super effective, super hard to get on the ground.

Yesterday, we saw them start activate more quarterback designed run. So you factor all of those aspects of the offense into the same game. And now you're a real challenge to be. beat both schematically. And then you look at all the positions and you've got a lot of really good player. So that's why I said, if I'm the Rams and the challenge that is this Philadelphia Eagles offense, I think defensively I feel pretty good. You just wish you can get one of those red zone possessions back.

But there are a talented team with good coaching. They play situational ball as good, if not better than everyone else. And it's why they're just hard to beat. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like the Rams, they are built in a way to match up against the Eagles really well because they have two elite wide receivers on the edge. And they, you brought this up during the game is drive to drive in the,

in the first half. You see the offensive play calling change from a run standpoint. Like a lot of times the first drive, we're talking about a lot of outside zone. We're attacking the perimeter quite a bit. The next drive, the Eagles have made their adjustments. Now we're hitting you with gap scheme inside zone stuff and allowing the run game and the scheme to kind of play for them.

So I think they do, they match up well. and I hope we get to see them in the playoffs. Transitioning a little bit, well, not a little bit, to a different game. Bucks beat the Jets, 29, 27. Obviously, if you're the Buccaneers, you're three and no, you feel good about it, but you just beat it as a close game with a Jets team that has a quarterback hurt. What do we have to say about Baker Mayfield at this point? He's got three game-winning drives and three games.

He's won the division, what, three times now, four times? Like, are we ready to put Baker Mayfield in the prestigious generational talent category? MVP conversation? Oh, my God. Tell you what, I don't know if you could feel better for a guy who's over. You're talking about adversity and dealing with stuff. I mean, what a job he has done. I mean, he was left for dead in the league,

gets his opportunity to go to Tampa post-Tom Brady, fill those shoes, expectations, taught holes, takes over as the head coach. And all he has done is win. All he has done is find ways to lead that team. I think his energy, I think his play style is infectious. You just can't help but root for guys like Baker. And I think it's really a testament to how important fit and belief of the organization is for the quarterback position.

I mean, we're seeing it with Daniel Jones right now. I mean, everyone wanted to throw him out of New York the last couple of years. And now all he's done is go get a fresh life, you know, fresh life in Indianapolis. And he looks like a different player. So fit is so important, a team believing in you, empowering you to be their leader. And that's what Todd Bulls. That's what Tampa has done with Baker. And I think he deserves all the credit that he's getting for the job he's done there.

And I'm happy for him. What else? I was kind of just in all thinking to myself. Hey, can I just say what's obvious? And I'm sure you guys have talked about it. Go ahead. Will, you have a great bald head. Oh, thank you, Greg.

Thank you. Come on, man. Like, I couldn't be, like, I'm balding, but I couldn't be like a bald bald because I have a gigantic head. You have like a good shaped head to be bald. Yeah, he really does. And they got Will popped like to solo. I'm not being a jerk. I'm being serious.

I think you look really good. No, I believe you. I appreciate those words. John line got stronger. Yeah, he looks tougher. Like, I think he dropped 3% body fat at the time. I've gotten grittier all of a sudden. Yeah, he got grittier.

What is the game plan if you ever do go ball, Greg? Are you going to have fun with it for a little bit? Do the cul-de-sac? Are you just going to bick it and move on? You're going to go to Turkey? Like, what's the move there? Yeah, that's a great. Listen, I'm going to be honest with you.

This is a question that I've had. This is a thought that I've worked through internally. You're putting me on the spot, but it's not the first time that I've had these thoughts. I don't know. My concern is it's not like a vanity thing. I'm not a huge, like, worried about what I look like. I very rarely even comb my hair. I just don't know if I'd be a good bald guy because my head is so big.

So, like, that would be a pretty jarring transition for me. Can we plug it up? Can we get some implant? I don't know. I think all options right now are on the table. I just turned 40. And I don't know if I have a clear favorite right now leader in the clubhouse. Yeah, turning 40, though.

I feel like at this point, it's like, yeah, it'll probably thin more and more as you go. But by the time you're 60, it's like, do we really care anymore? Yeah. Oh, it doesn't matter. No, it doesn't matter. Knowing you're 40 and you got that head of hair, whether or not it's fading or thinning, whatever it is, I feel like you're going to be pretty solid for the next deck. And being.

I'm hanging on. I'm hanging on for dear life. I'm really good, like, sides and back, you know, helmets, hats, front gets a little abrasion there in the front, the follicles probably aren't as thick as they once were. The follicles, man. But it's a lot of helmets, a lot of days with the boys grinding in camp, probably lost a few follicles over the years. You know how that go.

Although, Taylor, you got great hair too. Thank you. Yeah, I gotta give that love to Dave Leone. My daddy's 62 years old. And his hair is just as thick as minus to this day. He's just a silver fox. What a gift. We were at ESPN this weekend.

And it was the conversation my father came up and my hair. And I showed the makeup lady. My father, and she said, I would date your father right now. I said, how old are you? She goes, I'm 45. I go, that's Dave would probably call. He would call. He's full of TRT, Greg.

Like, he's, that boy is after it right now. He's getting after. Good for Dave. Shout out Dave Lawan. Shout out Dave. What is your biggest takeaway? What do you think the biggest headline is coming out of the Browns? beating the Packers. Is it more so

Packers drank the Kool-Aid? This is kind of a trap game situation in college football and they got trapped. Do you think it speaks more about what the Browns have going on defensively in Cleveland? Yeah, so I'll be honest, I didn't catch the game. Obviously, I saw the box score and I saw the score.

I was shocked. I'll be honest. I thought the Packers were rolling. They've looked really good through the first two weeks. I was, that game, that game in the Carolina Atlanta game probably were my two biggest surprises, just outcome-wise. And then obviously the Carolina game,

you don't see a lot of NFL games 30 to nothing regardless of who the teams are. But yeah, I thought, I do agree with you what Cleveland can do defensively and the dudes that they have up front and that system, they're going to give a lot of teams trouble. I just think it's the nature of the NFL. I think the difference between the top tier and the bottom tier is very different than college football. it's very different to, you know, where you just assume like, oh, these games are just easy to call.

It seems like every week there's that one or two games that no matter how much you think you follow ball, no matter how much you think you understand about these teams, something always goes sideways. And I think that's the beauty of the NFL. It's why we all tune in. It's why we all talk about it all day, every day. And that's a huge win for Cleveland, just culturally, the belief within the locker room. Like, hey, we can go toe to toe with anybody in this league. Now the key is can we do this over and over and over again,

which of course is what every team is chasing. It's very interesting too. I feel like there's always one week in the year, possibly two weeks where it's like everything kind of just gets fucked up in the NFL. Like all the good teams, like the Packers, they just randomly drop one. You look at Panthers, Falcons, you already brought that up. It's like you don't really know who's going to win the game. Everyone kind of, the public sits there and go, well, Falcons, Penn X, Pitts, Bejohn,

like those guys are probably going to steamroll the Panthers. Vikings beating these shit. out of the Bengals? Yeah, it's like, you look at these games, you're like, these are supposed to be more competitive. And then even the commanders and Raiders, like, I think the, the consensus was, like, yeah, the commanders will probably win this game, but not by that margin. And I feel like, every so often in the football season, you always run into these wonky weeks. And I think we kind of, we kind of had one of those. If I'm personally, just my opinion, if I'm the Packers, like, I'm not sweating this. Michael Parsons had a great, great take on this. He's like, we're a great

team. And we, sometimes you shit the bed. And that's exactly what we did. We just shit the bed. So they know what they have. Yeah. Because that game, honestly, if I'm the Browns, and I'm like, okay,

we have a defense, essentially going to keep us in every single game. Why not go to Gabriel or Sodor or kind of move on, just kind of see what you have a little bit. Because Flacco, I love Joe Kuhl.

He's the man, and if they want to ride with him all season, I'm all about that train. But like, why not get a little spicy? You know offensively, you're not doing a whole lot. You're averaging like 15.2 points per game.

Like, why not? kind of throw it in there a little bit. If they had an offense, they'd be a top to your team. Yeah. And Juckkins, Junkins, he gets his first touchdown of his career. Like they kind of, they got a little like, oh, this is what you need to see.

Maybe we do throw a young cat in there, let them spin it, and have them fail forward. And they have Jerry Judy, such a gentleman. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, do you think they should bench placko? I think coaches always struggle with the, with that baton handoff, right? And then conventional wisdom you said, are we're really good defensively. That's what every good young quarterback needs.

And then I think sometimes these coaches go, well, let's just manage the offense and not make the defense's job any harder. And let's try to squeak out some of these, you know, one score games. Let's squeak out some of these games that are in the teens, right? We're both, you know, holding our opponents under 20 every single week. Let's not throw picks. Let's not make mistakes. So I think that's the other side of it.

But it's hard, right? It's a hard decision. When do you go to a young quarterback? Is that young quarterback ready? Is that quarterback walking into a environment that's good for not only the immediate success of the team? Like the Browns want to win now. They're not trying to win in three years. And, you know, Shador or Gabriel, whoever is the quarterback two, three years from now, they got to win now.

They got to strike while Miles Garrett is still one of the best players in the league. And this defense is still as loaded as it is. So they've got to fit the balance between being good today and also being able to not stunt any growth in development of the future. And I think that's what all these coaches that go through these quarterback transitions, that's what keeps them up at night. Yeah. Looking at the, did you happen to catch the Bears Cowboys game? Are you buying? I caught half of it in flying home. Are you buying the Bears offense and making a huge jump into week two? I don't know how much you've gotten to break down the Dallas defense. I think they're absolutely atrocious. But what was your

takeaway coming out of the Bears beating the Cowboys? Yeah, so I think first off, you never apologize, and you guys, obviously, I'm not telling you guys something you don't know, you never apologize in the league for having a great game, you never apologize for seeing growth. It doesn't matter who you play against growth in development and improvement in the NFL is always going to be celebrated by everyone. So a win is a win, a great offensive performance is a great offensive performance. Having said that, my hedge is I did see this Dallas defense a week before, when

but give up 40 to the Giants. And we've seen the Giants in pretty much all of their other games have very little success offensively. So you start asking yourself where the Giants, now Russ was amazing in week two in that game. They should have won. They lost on the long field goal Aubrey and all that. But like that was a shootout in the, you know, and went to overtime in the fourth quarter. Both teams scored 40. Like it was an unbelievably offensive game.

So I look back and I say, okay, now Ken, the Giants follow up that performance against Dallas. Can they follow it up against Kansas City? Really good defense. They didn't score. And then you ask, all right, the Bears, okay, so they do it against Dallas. Let's see how the Bears do it next week. Like, can they follow up after playing the Cowboys and having more success?

Can they follow it up again? So I think it's twofold. They got better. There's a lot to build on. I thought Caleb three touchdowns in the first half. And can they do that now? as the season goes on because it seems like everyone's kind of having their way the last two weeks with Dallas's defense. It's surprising to me, man.

I know you were talking about watching Dallas the week before, but Taylor and I were watching that film together. And it's just surprising to me as a defensive guy to see just a lot of static alignment. You know exactly what covers they're about to be in pre-snap. There's not a lot of disguise. When they are blitzing, it's like everybody's across the line of scrimmage. it's fascinating to me and we're sitting there watching that game I'm like man why is the I wonder why the line is one and a half

against the bears like surely Dallas and Dax smoked the bears but then you watch the tape and you're like oh this Dallas defense is just not very good at all. It's bad to see yeah they got to figure it out quick right because I sit there and I look at the Cowboys and I'm like your offense like you can get it done

you can get it done and move the ball and take care of run it you can throw it like I feel good about their offense but like when they go from the Giants game into the Bears game and they don't change anything and I have to go back and really watch the film but as you're watching that game live it's like they're not moving at all

before the ball is snapped they're doing the exact same thing they did last week and if you're gonna continue to be stubborn if you're Eber Fluce and you're like hey this is my defense is we're gonna run you're gonna miss the playoffs and you're gonna waste another year of deck Prescott CD Lamb gets hurt so now all you have is George Pickens

and so it's like you need to they're a very fragile franchise right now. What I hate out of it is you know the world's going to be coming at Dak Prescott in that offense. Right, because they score 14 points and it's like, the thing you take away from that game is like, hey, Bears fans, you should be excited about your defense the way they stood up. But, you know, CD does get hurt. Chargers beat the Broncos, 23 to 20. Chargers go up in that game, 10-0. Broncos answer 17 points unanswered. And then it's like, okay, what are we going to see that Justin Herbert? And Justin Herbert shows that, you know, there's a

reason why people are starting to whisper a top five quarterback top five quarterback do you were you able to watch that game at all i didn't see that game i saw the highlights in the recap and what i will say is because i i saw week one i saw herbert um you know we all watch that opening game i'll say what i'll tell you what the job that harbaugh has done with that team the organization all the all the dude does is win everywhere he goes at every level and that he has brought out the best in justin herbert and physically i don't think all of a sudden he taught him to throw better he didn't make them taller and faster and stronger. There's something that Harbaugh does to his quarterbacks that makes them know he unequivocally

just believes in them. He pours into them. And it shows. And I think since he's gotten there, there's a reason why we've seen the best of Justin Herbert. And we've seen him kind of now take his game to where everyone thought he could. And I think that's what we've seen Harbaugh do in his entire career is get the best out of people, especially the quarterback position. So, again, I don't have any intimate knowledge of that exact game

or how it all went down when I saw highlights of it. But I think the Chargers are for real in the AFC. I mean, I think right now it's Bill's Ravens. Chiefs defensively are nasty. They've got to just continue to find some more points on offense. But I think the Chargers are starting to approach that top-tier group. Yeah, I mean, they've had three-in-division games in three weeks and they're 3-0.

I mean, that says a lot. The thing you have to worry about if you're the charges is, what do they want to do? They always want to run the football and you lose Najee Harris to what seemed like an Achilles injury. I mean, he knew it right away. You see the slow-mo. You see the pop with the calf. And it's heartbreaking because his off-season, he has the 4th of July.

But then Hampton, he comes in and he starts running the ball really well. It has his first touchdown looks really good. And so I wonder if they go and trade for a running back because at the end of that's what they want to do is they want to establish a strong run game. it's only going to help Herbert more, but I'm fired up about the Chargers, their offense and Jesse Minter's defense. It just proves that Michigan never cheated.

There you go. All of that to say that. Yeah. I mean, Jesse Minter is going to be a head coach in the NFL next year if they keep going the way they are right now. He's McDonald 2.0. It's very impressive to see. Do you think, I have a question for you with the Vikings.

Do you think if Carson is playing well, the Vikings end up in a weird conversation when J.J. McCarthy comes back if the Vikings continue to win. Well, I'll tell you what, so I have the Vikings this week in Dublin. We're flying to Ireland on Thursday, so that'll be fun. So they play Pittsburgh. I think it's a great question. I think it's a little, maybe a little early. I think it's a little early to have that conversation. But trust me, and it's heart of hearts, I think Kevin O'Connell is at least preparing for that situation. And I think everyone there would love that to be the problem, right? You would love your, everyone dreams of your backup quarterback having to play due to injury

and coming in and doing exactly with the backup quarterback's job, which is to keep this thing afloat and continue to keep us competitive and help us win games. He did more than that yesterday, obviously. He's a guy that's played for multiple different teams. He's had success in this league. He's been around a long time. But then the other side of that coin is quarterback controversy is hard. It's a storyline. It's something every team dreads.

Do I think it's a no-brainer that if he's playing well and they're winning, that they just turn it right back to J.J. McCarthy? I don't think it's a no-brainer. Would it be tough to turn your back on your young quarterback who essentially is in his rookie year due to the lost year last year? I think it would be tough. I think it'd be hard on him. I think it'd be a setback developmentally. But the ultimate job of the head coach is to do what's in the best interest of the team

to win right now. And this week will go a long way. Like week one is a backup, I always say, is like the easy week. You catch everybody a little off guard. Yeah. Now teams have seen you in this offense. You got to do it again before we start entering into all the hypothetical what ifs. Yeah, I think if it keeps going well for Carson Wentz,

what you need to do if you're Kevin O'Connell and the Vikings is just become the charity franchise. And pay J.G. McCarthy $100 million. Be like, hey, get hurt. You can be our pseudo backup. and bring first round picks in that haven't made it their other franchise and revamped their entire career.

The Vikings can do a lot of charity work because it seems like anyone who comes in contact with Kevin O'Connell just gets better at football. Look at Danny Dimes out in Indianapolis. Yeah, I mean, have you, like, is Daniel, is he for real? I've always liked Daniel. I've always thought he got a little bit

of the short end of the stick. I think the New York market, understandably so, is a tough market. There's high expectations. a lot of eyeballs, a lot of scrutiny. I like, he's a Charlotte kid. I trained with him during, you know, during COVID. So I know him personally, so I'm probably biased.

But I've always thought you're a big, strong, fast kid who's super smart, really good demeanor. Like, what else are you looking for out of the quarterback position? Like if you're making guys, he's kind of checking all of those boxes. Right. He just needed to be around a place that believed in him, pour it into him. A lot of the things we're saying about these other franchises with Baker.

And you can see the organizations that embrace a guy and say, you're our guy. There's no question. Don't look over your shoulder. Just go play ball. It's amazing how much better those guys play. And the job Shane Steichen's done with him out in Indianapolis in a short time. I know there's a lot of controversy when he won that starting job. But obviously they saw something this offseason to turn it over to him.

And they look like geniuses. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. What's your, before we let you go, what are you thinking the night with Detroit, Baltimore? Now, you think of prime time Lamar Jackson. One stat that the boys that busts with the boys is aware of. He's seven and two in Monday night football games. Very good record, Greg.

Now, the two games he's lost, they've been in the month of September. Hmm. Wow. I mean, you're getting every, you're getting every angle on this. That's what I'm saying. No, I mean, it's real. I don't, I personally don't buy in to like, I think there's a lot of trends and stats and records by months. And it could be as simple as you played harder teams in September than you did later on.

Like, there's always a lot of nuance to those trends with short, you know, kind of small sample sizes. I think it's a fascinating game. I think it's one of the best games matchups of the early, you know, slate of this season so far through three weeks. after week one, I would have said that the Lions, they got some work to do. They were really missing their two coordinators. Then last week they bounced way back and they looked amazing. So if we get that version of the Lions, which is what we've come to imagine over the last couple years and the Ravens that we really know, I mean, we could be looking at, you know,

a Super Bowl preview. Like these are two teams that are at least in that conversation in their conferences, respectively. So I can't wait to get home and watch it. My gut is Baltimore is better, but I don't know. I'm not a gambler. I'm not a better, so I don't really like pick games, but I think it's a hell of a game. Where is the game? Remind me where the game is. Baltimore. All right. Yeah, Baltimore night game in Baltimore. I'd probably give the edge. What's the line? Who's favor? I'm assuming Baltimore's favor. Baltimore's favor. Yeah, it's not, it's not a big line, though. Not a big line.

All right. If you put a gun to my head, I'd say I would think Baltimore, but after last week, I feel a lot better about Detroit than I did after week one. Will had a little parlay that I threw in the group chat last night. It was Chief's altered line minus six and a half. And now it is five point five is a line, huh? Five and a half is a line. So Ravens are five and a half.

But then, what is it, 58 and a half? Yeah, I like points in this game. I like point in the game. Because for me, it's like Baltimore is the better roster. I think the Lions are on a get back. in a get-back mode. They performed very well last week. So I like to see fireworks in this

when you watch the Ravens last week against the Browns, correct? It was, you know, Lamar missed a few, like three throws in that first quarter downfield. They just start faster, they'll get going. So I like the total in points. I like fireworks tonight, Greg.

Yeah, we need it. We need it because we are better. Let's see what we got, man. Yeah. I love to see you guys. I do want to ask about the chiefs. Are the chiefs going to be okay? I think they're going to be okay.

I think their defense is nasty. I think they're young. I think their talent that I think Spaggs is as good as it gets. They're going to keep them in games like we've seen pretty much all season in the last couple years. Offensive, they got to find their groove a little bit. I think they know that. I still think they're trying to figure out personnel.

Do they get Rishi Rice back? Can they get some of these young guys rolling? So offensively, they've got some things to figure out. But again, it's a lot easier to play offense in the NFL when your defense is giving up. less than 20 a game. Like it just takes so much pressure off, you know, how good you have to be. Now, are you going to win the Super Bowl with that model? I wouldn't hang my hat on it. So they got to get better offensively. We've seen them get better as the years have gone on over the last couple years when people have thought they were dead. So I don't ever think you count out Mahomes and Andy Reid

and Kelsey and guys that we've seen do it for a long time at a high level. But there's no question offensively. They've got to start finding some answers. I love it. Great. Thank you. you guys. Let's give a round of applause for Greg. I appreciate you. I know you're busy and I know you're doing your thing. I appreciate you guys, man. Thank you very much. Good luck this Wednesday. Yeah. Good luck this Wednesday. I expect

at least three scores in the first half. We got to start fast. Maybe shoot the boys a text and just be like, here we're at. This is where we're at. Yeah. We got to start faster. That's on me. I can do a better job. All right, brother. That's good. Love you. Have a good one. Have a good one. See you guys. See you guys. See you.

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Yeah. We had some tier talk. We had some submissions. This first one is from Brandon at Cole Sports Junkie. Hashtag tier talk about fan bases that are in hell. Hashtag Broncos. I don't think the Denver fan base should be in hell. I think there are question marks there.

You start off one and two. Obviously, there's this expectation of the Broncos being a dark horse in that division to win the division. but again you lose two close games you do got to figure some things out offensively you have a hell of a defense you are not in hell as much as say the cowboys fan base should be or the titans fan base should be titans fan base yeah the new york giants fan base yeah if you here here's the concern i'll give to you if you're worried about the broncos and i'm going to fuel that fire a little bit bowdo neck started 61 football games in college okay had a lot of time to do a lot of things the fear there would be is he at his ceiling right now.

That's the fear. Because you look at where the Broncos hanging their hat on last year, it was their defense. And you go in there, they obviously still a great defense. They can get a lot of pressure on the quarterback. They have a great secondary. But you look at the Chargers. And from a defense versus defense standpoint, the Chargers played a better game yesterday and kind of showed they were the best defense in the AFC West.

So I don't know if this is your year, but I think there's a little bit more that you can give and this is a one score game, right, against the charges who, in my opinion, are quickly making themselves a top tier AFC team, which is very, very exciting. So, you know, a little bit of sadness, a little bit of happiness overall, I think you're going to be high. I like, too, after the game, J.K. Dobbins, he had a little locker room interview to where he's like, no, he didn't play a back game. We got his back. We got to do a better job of making plays when we got him.

Whether or not it's a good throw or a bad throw, like we all have Bo Nix's back. That's what you want to see. There's an ex. Yeah, that's good. Because they're, I mean, it's like, you know, these tight games the last two weeks, I don't think the Broncos should be pressing the panic button whatsoever. Yeah. They're not like the fighting a line eye.

Getting their ass is absolutely pummeled. Pummeled. This next one comes from Michael Smith at Smitty, 3691, hashtag tier talk. Did Scatibu take over for CMC as an all white RB1 before our eyes last night? I'll tell you what, he did get the blood flown below the belt last night. I'm seeing old scataboo. go out there. I do want to see him maybe,

listen, the boys, the defenders know you're coming. Yeah. Like, let's not just go full lean in with your head at all times. Right.

Like, we got to keep you around. I love the juice factory of Camp Scadaboo in lowering the boom, but now you've got to start playing with the bag a little bit. Yeah, yeah.

Because he's got some shake to him. He's got a great center of gravity too. Like, you catch an edge. No one's bringing you down by the hips, brother. You can do your thing. If it ain't broke,

don't fix it. See, yeah. Now it's time to throw in the, hit the spit, Like go down because defenders are going to just start long. Like Scataboo, that's a load to take on. Right. Yeah, if you're the secondary and you think, my God,

if this boy breaks for him, he's not even trying, he's not even trying to run past me. No. He's going to put me in concussion protocol. Yeah. I think when you look at CMC and you look at Scataboo, it's like when CMC came through at Stanford, he had that viral video coming out of him moving his feet and people being like, this is sped up and it really wasn't sped up because the TV in the background. It's like, that's where the white guys go, hey, we got one too.

Like, that's a thoroughbred right there. Scataboo is a miniature Clydesdale. This boy's here to pull wagons. He is not messing around. We got two totally different quats ripping around on the football field on Sunday afternoons. I love to see it for his health and his longevity in the league.

I do think you switch up the back a little bit. We know what his fastball is. But buddy, if you throw 105, 106, like fucking throw 105, 106, you know? I think what you love to see out of Scataboo too. You look at him and McCaffrey, both coming in the league. McCaffrey, this is collared shirt, tucked in the Levi's.

Camp Scadaboo, I wouldn't put a pass. So he was rocking South Paul is a young buck. Yeah. And you are South Pole, not South Paul. I knew it. I know you met. Scadaboo, did you see the backflip in the touchdown celebration? Even that was many.

He did that at Arizona State with us. Yeah, but buddy, he did that backflip like three inches off the ground. Didn't jump. Yeah. Didn't jump. Like he is just a little ball of muscle. He's a Shetland pony. Yeah, he's a Shetland pony with the legs of a Clydesdale.

See if you can find that on Chad. Just know, I'm in my living room, just standing up, beat my chest. Kib scatiboo! Yeah. I saw a couple tweets last night, too, get Scataboo on the bus. We will get Scataboo on the bus. Yeah, yeah. He will have it.

And just remember, the first people to know about Scataboo was busing with the boys. We have tried to get him on the bus. It just, it was. Yeah, it just didn't work out. He was focused. He was focused. He was focused on getting drafted. This one comes from at Garth.

Gorells, Garels, Garels. Tier talk, how long should fan bases give a quarterback before making a judgment call? I think this one is a hard one. There's no hashtag. There's no specific situation that he's talking about. So I'm going to give the political answer of every situation is different. Yeah, I agree. There's so many different variables that come in when you're judging your quarterback.

Let's say you have great receivers. You have proven receivers in that team. You have a proven offensive line. And your quarterback's not able to facilitate the ball. that leash is going to be much shorter than a team that, you know, you look at the Titans. And you think, okay, like, yeah, we got guys dropping balls a little bit. Cam Ward, his stat lines not going to be great every single week because of the product that's on the field with him. And I'm trying to be as cautious as possible because I do love the Titans.

But it's like they're not a team that's anywhere close to complete right now. When Cam shows splashes, you're like, all right, we got a guy here. Now can we take pieces and put it around him? I think that leash is extremely long as opposed to my other example I just had. I think in the NFL year and a half. Yeah. What about the Brown situation with Flacco and you obviously draft? We talked about it with Greg a little bit, but I mean, you drafted Dylan Gabriel and Shadur Sanders.

Like that defense is real. You just need an offense. Right. You need somebody that can give a little spark to it. And I like Greg's answer and I didn't like Greg's answer because like at the end of day, what he was saying is the Brown's offense. just needs to take care of the football. Well, Joe Flacco is an absolute stud,

and he's at the age where boy don't give a shit anymore. He knows he's playing on borrowed time, so he'll sling that thing all over the field and give up multiple interceptions a game, but also throw multiple touchdowns a game. So if you're looking towards the future, I think it's like, this is nothing against Flacco. I'm a big Joe cool guy,

but if you're in a year where you're like, we know we're not contenders, but we have a great defense. Let's go and throw one of the young bucks in there and see what they can do. Now, I love Shadur, his conversation, being around like practices are my game day and I'm taking every single one like it but then Gabriel gets in some some garbage time versus the Ravens dose himself with touchdown like hey why not you still

got judy you still got in joku you got you know uh jukkins who seems like he's gonna be a little bit of a weapon in the league like you've got some guys your offensive lines banked up a little bit but why not get in there and just let them toss it maybe they'll go through some looks to where they get in some kind of rhythm on the back half of the year especially if you have a defense like that because you think back it's like you got joe smooth and you look at it's like you look at it and you look at you know, managing the game well, not, you know, turnover's low and things like that to where you allow the defense to kind of win you games.

Look back to that Ravens team. When it was a Hasselback, who was the quarterback? Their offense, they didn't really have an offense. They just needed to not turn the ball over. Right. The Ravens defense was going to win you that football game. Yeah. It is very, yeah, it all depends on the situation.

It all depends on the situation. But thank you, Garth, for shooting in that message. Hashtag tier talk. Yeah. This next one comes from at, Matthew Ritell. Hashty Tear Talk, should the Bengals trade for Kirk Cousins will? Should the Bengals trade for Kirk Cousins?

It's a lot of money to have on one team. It would be a lot of money to have on one team, especially at the quarterback position. Browning is like, yeah, they got their ass with this week. But again, it's like, but you're not in a situation to where you have an elite defense like Cleveland to where, hey, this is a must. Like we could win if we had a serviceable quarterback.

And I say that too, Browning is proven that he could play well in the backer bro. You're going to have games like that. I don't think you're just absolutely hitting the panic button. You need the defense to pick it up a bit. This is like a full team effort on the Bengals part. Now, again, if it's like they were in the Brown situation, I think you very much would want to go out there and get a quarterback in now because

there is an opportunity to win games right now. Yeah. I think, yeah, if you want to, go ahead. Like it depends like if it was Joe Broh out for three months for real or is going to be a little longer. Is his season over? But you're not going to see that. It's way too much money in one room. You're going to have to pay for Kirk Cousins.

Whether or not you're going off how he played last year and you could probably get him for cheap. I'm just telling you right now. Like there's, you know, if you're Kirk, it's like you're not going anywhere just to like play for low money. Right. You know, on a team that has, you know, no, no defense. Right. Exactly. You have Jamar Chasing Teague.

You have Jemar Chast. And so it could be an opportunity where Kirk Cousins does look at it. just to play devil's advocate where he's like, hey, people think I'm not shit. There's weapons over there that I can make it seem like I am still the shit. Yeah. So why not get over there and get that thing done? There's one up there from at, is that say? McRumie.

McRumey. Michael Rooms. Friend of the show. Friend of the show. Friend of the show, Michael is. Teams lose their best players because of a borderline targeting call that changes the game. I love this idea that he's putting out to us. What are Bustin's thoughts on making a, making target?

a flagrant 1-2 type of penalty. Flagrant 1 would be something like an accidental head-to-head contact, no ejection. Flagrant 2, obvious targeting calls, ejection. Hashtaghtag tier talk. I love that. I do. I do too. Because that hurts the fucking game, man.

We were in a situation, the Nebraska-Michigan game. Number 6. With number 6 puts a lick on Jacori Barney right before the goal line. It was something that they reviewed. Then they kind of took away the penalty. but that's one too where it's just gray. It's like, yeah, if you're going just off the rule, could that be? Yes, do you love seeing that on the football field?

Yes, it didn't seem like it was malicious. Yeah, it didn't seem like it was malicious at all. You go a week earlier at LSU and WIT weeks lays that lick on, oh, buddy, out there on the perimeter, looks like just an incredible tackle, an incredible form tackle. Unfortunately, his head was leading. They end up ejecting him from the game. So I love the idea of a flagrant one, flagrant two, like you have tears to it. Yeah.

In our segment tier talk. In our segment tier talk. Yeah, I agree with everything you just said. I hate the targeting call. I understand why the targeting call is there to protect the players, but it's so great and it truly depends on what ref is calling it. And I hate that. I absolutely hate it.

All right. Where's Jackie Boy? Jack, Tennessee Nation, Titans Nation needs to hear from you, man. And I will say this about Jack McPherson and Garrett. They are officially the flag holders of the Tennessee Titans fan base. It seems like they have an incredible pulse about how they feel. I hate where the Titans are at right now because the pulse is very negative, very low pulse. We're in an ICU type of situation, whether it's the coach, the team.

You look at tickets distributed versus the tickets that are people that are actually at the game. They're not matching up at all. It is cheaper to go to a Vanderbilt gate or to go to a Titans game versus the Colts. and is to go to Vanderbilt versus Georgia State. Like, it is hard. It is tough out there. And with a mostly publicly subsidized stadium coming in, 2027, it's a tough look right now for the Titans.

I know, Jack, we had a whole conversation about that. That's a whole different thing that we don't have to get into. But new stadium, Titans, arguably the worst team in the NFL right now. Boys, I'll turn it over to you. Take as long as you'd like. And too, Jack, like, if you could paint me a picture of the Titans fans, base as a whole. I know there's a lot of negative. Maybe there's some, some, some other takes out there on the other side that maybe you were scrolling through to find some optimism or find some light.

Because I didn't, once I saw where this game was going, I was more so all eyes on, the Eagles, Rams going on in Philly. So kind of paint us a picture. I mean, I'm sure that if you were watching games from your couch, you may be caught all of two minutes of the Titans Colts game. The Titans started off on the third play with a pick six. Unfortunately, Cam Ward threw one. And I literally just texted you the video that I put up on Twitter. And then in the same breath. In this, yeah, this one's from Wilcompton. In the same breath, pick six.

And so starting out, I think it was maybe at most 70% capacity. And that's generous. The stadium and the 300s was empty. The club level was a hot day. People were probably inside as well. It's just a bad situation right now for the Titans. I have done my best. to be a good member of this company and to respect our guests.

But the time has come where you have to set respect and rational aside. Are you about to use the effort? And you have to fire Brian Callahan. He had now, shout out Alex Porter who works with us. He found a stat. He has the worst win percentage through 20 games in the, history of the NFL. He is now 3 and 17?

3 and 18. Is it 3 and 8? Yeah, I saw this whole thing. It was a Titans account that said it is Kelly and the worst coach in Titans history. He's 3 and 18 and Wizz and Hunt was 3 and 20. Yeah. So again, 3 and 18 doesn't help him.

I'm not going to sit here. And yesterday I kind of motherfucked him on Twitter. I'm sober now. I'm not going to do that. But I wrote some things down. Starting with just poor decision-making and game management, I think the number one thing you can look at is the 62-yard fuel goal on fourth down

that was called for Joey Slide a kick going into half, which I didn't even realize, I guess it got tipped or blocked. Regardless, the delay of game penalties, just so many questionable choices in critical moments that don't pay off. It is, it's not all on Calhahan, 100%. It's a team sport. There's so many aspects to go into it,

but his game decision making is at an all-time low. I think it's honestly disrespectful to the Titans fan base. You're in there sitting at halftime and you feel like a joke, being like, I'm wasting my Sunday being here. And I will continue to waste my Sundays every time. Because I love being in that stadium. I love the city and our fan base, our core fan base who actually goes there to watch the Titans,

succeed and not to take photos for Instagram. Like, we enjoy it yesterday, especially against a divisional rival home game and to just get embarrassed, there was never a moment where the Titans were in it. Not even one. Jonathan Taylor looked really good. Daniel Jones looked very good, very efficient.

There's just a lack of progress. I know there was a ton of expectations that went into this season. And though we have a lot of new, you know, things going on. on with players and everything just surrounding Cam Ward. There has to be a moment where we need there needs to be time allowed to get better, but it's not going to happen under the helm of Brian Calham. There's also a conversation to be talked about with Amy Adams. I'm going to

table that for another day just because I think we need to stick with one thing. Can you give us a just a sampler size of that? I just don't know if Amy Adams is fit to be the owner. I mean, it was handed down to her from Bud and everyone loved Bud and she is the stepdaughter but and she's made good things so to say for the Titans organization but at some point like it is

just if you take away the 2019 season and 2022 those playoff runs the Titans have been a miserable franchise for 20 years and it's just like we got content with like just

having more than eight wins in a season So, yeah, I mean, I'm not going to say I was joining in on the Fire Callahan chance in the stadium, but I'm also going to say that I wasn't. But when you have a fan base that's sitting out in the September sun in Nissan at 1 p.m. on a Sunday, audibly yelling Fire Callahan, that's something that they need to listen to. I'm not saying that I wanted to like wake up this morning and see Callahan Fire. on Twitter. I mean, I would have loved it.

But like maybe there's a couple more things ahead. I've just, we have a tough road series ahead where we play the Texans, another back-to-back divisional rival game. Then we go to the Cardinals. Come to Brooklyn Ball. Bustin with the boys will be doing official tailgate with the Titans. Hopefully we win. Regardless when to lose, we're going to have a good time.

So come to Brooklyn Ball. And then we go to the Raiders. And then, you know, who our next home game is. Who's the, who is the Titans playing the Brooklyn? Oakland Bowl? Arizona Cardinals. I don't know if you know who our next home game is after the three-game Road Shreds, but it's Mike Rable and the Patriots. So if you don't think that Mike Vrable is going to get more applause in that stadium

than Brian Callahan, you're not listening. You need to open your eyes. Okay. So can I ask you a question? For sure. These next three seem very winnable. Yes, the Texas, I mean, someone, I saw a tweet, and it's the Texans type of Titans game and they said they need to flex this game to 4 a.m.

So yeah, it's literally going to be a shitball and it'd be it'd be huge to pick up that win. Obviously the Cardinals, I don't think there's anything special there, but we have to play some good ball to beat them. The Raiders kind of sit in that, but I hate the travel, having to go to Arizona, come home, then go to Vegas, come home. It's a lot like you guys know, just road games, three in a row long stretch or you're starting to, you know, feel all the hits and, and, and, you know, then you have J.C. Latham and Tavondre Sway, which Tavondre Sweat you saw at first hand.

Him not being there to help open up for Big Jeff is really hard. Our O line with how J.C., even though you can have whatever opinion you have on J.C. Latham, our old line looked miserable yesterday, and the amount of penalties, it was just embarrassing. It's just like, you're just laughing. You're like this. We average 11 through these first three games. I mean, it's just like we got to figure some stuff out. It's not going to get it.

I'll tell you what, it's definitely a good thing. I think a road game stretch. Get away. Change it up. Okay. Yeah. It's just us. Maybe stay in the west.

Yeah. Stay in the west. All I know is I'm fired up to be able to just watch football on my couch next Sunday and not have to go just sweat my ass off and be angry and like yelling at teenagers who were in Colts fans. A guy behind me, he was very vocal. And that's, I tweeted it out. Nashville is the worst city for a bad football team because it's such an awesome city to come visit. And I've said this many times, but if you're in a way fan, let's say you're the Colts just,

you know, for recency bias, you and your boys make a three-day trip. You come to Nashville. You hit Broadway, Friday, Saturday, have fun. You get cheap-ass tickets going to Nissan Sunday. So every game, it's like at one point, it felt like you didn't know on a certain call. If you kind of looked away, you didn't know who is cheering for who. because the noise level, you're like, wait, is that Titan fans cheering? Because it's loud.

And you're like, oh, no, that was actually the Colts fans cheering. And the guy sitting behind me, though, he was really John. And, like, I'm, like, sitting there just like, breathe, man. Like, it's all good. Like, football doesn't even matter. Like, and I turn around end up talking to him. And it was like his first NFL game ever. He's like a fifth year old man with his wife.

And I was like, honestly, this is super cool. Like, I hope you, like, for you guys to be here, like, enjoying your first NFL game. Like, you're getting a wop a. a rival's ass. Like, I end up, I was like, you guys want me to take your photo? And he's like, you know what, man? That's really big of you.

And I was like, okay, don't patronize me. But yeah, at the end of the day, I think it's still early in the season to where there's the expectation, obviously, the set so low right now. And Camp Ward is a very young quarterback. He's shown moments of poise. Obviously, the mistake on the pick six hurt. He had a solid touchdown. Another one to Alec Aalke O' Manor, who I think he, I mean,

I don't even want to go down the Calvin Ridley wormhole, paying him $90 million to drop every single thing that comes his way. Sucks. I think A.O. Manor Will is, I mean, he is our receiver one. And hopefully we can give him a moment. I think this is the thing I'll end on. What most Titans fans are most concerned about is the possibility of spoiling Cam Words career with us because of bad coaching, bad decision-making, bad ownership. Three games in. I know, I know.

but like that's what I'm saying like I'm I'm it's just I've had many conversations with many different kind of all that they're worried about is we got to just ruining him and not like lose him and then we're back to square one yeah because not only cam but like yesterday I'm noticing our draft class there's like five guys contributing on the field so there's a positive there like you have a rookie quarterback you have a rookie wide receiver who's proven himself you have you have a rookie at punt returner who luckily got some touches at wider receivers. You have a rookie on the edge, like on the defensive side. Like that's a good sign that they're playing.

Gunner Helms also like a good tight end. So you got to put Gunner Helm in every package. It's figuring out how to not like waste this. Like you're getting your guys. You've got good draft picks that are contributing and it's, you want to see it work on the field. So like it's, yeah, it's frustrating to see.

The one part that kind of sucked yesterday is we all. honored the legend Mike Keith and he got in the ring of fire. And it did not feel like it should have. They did it half time. One, they did the Titans Legend. It was the guy who followed up Kevin Mouye, Titans Legend. I can't even tell you his name. I forgot about it.

And they did it in the beginning of the second quarter. Like they had Javon Curse last week. And it's just like, it feels weird. It just feels like force. And then they had Mike Keith. Before it got too bad, I think. I assume they probably tried to give Mike Keith's moment. But yeah, it sucks because like Mike Keith is.

a legend thank god he'll because it's a vol fall for me at this point and thank god mike keith is is in knoxville doing the color commentary that that was tough to see it half though because yeah you half the crowd obviously is going to concessions bathroom all that there's a part of you that's like they might not come back after half time half of them aren't even watching this moment from mike keith which sucked burke goes up and gets booed like it's rough in there and we you mentioned at the beginning of this like you know titans are building the largest public subsidy in the NFL it's 2.1 billion dollars and outside of like the fear of losing cam ward or him like not getting his moment with us the fear is also i know in that organization is if we are in this position when we go

into that brand new sparkling stadium people are going to be furious and it's like we just got to get a little momentum so um you have talent like like i just said you have rookies that are already contributing. There's something there. Jackie Boy. Yeah. Why don't we take the thought of the Fire Callahan, you just put it on the shelf.

Let's get on the road. Look, I'm saying... Just go on the road and see what happens. I agree. I'm saying Fire Callahan, like in a level-headed atmosphere. If we come back from that road stretch and we're 1 in 5 or whatever, 0-6, and we're going in to play the Patriots

and the Patriots come here, and they, Malik Willis us, I'm going to be way, way, way hotter on this bus. And I'm going to be, I'm going to start a GoFundMe to, I don't even know how that's going to help, but something's got to get out there. So right now, I'm being as level-headed as possible. And I'm not saying fire his ass right now. But you come back from that road stretch and it's still like this.

I promise you, man, we might have to do a public sit out of Nissan just to tell them, hey, we mean, I'll be there, but what? Imagine the world. I love him. He's like, no, no, yeah, yeah, we'll give them the three game. Like, I'm not saying fire. I'm saying firing with the most level head. Right. So they'd be more so.

You're saying it emotionally, but you're going to give them these three weeks. And then it'll be, hey, I'm seeing the board clearly. If Rabel comes in here and wins and then they decide to fire Callahan, that would be circle of moment. It'd be beautiful. And essentially be AJ Brown and John Robinson. would be so odd. So we'll see, man.

It's always tighten up, though. Keep the faith, guys. We have to. You can't do that. We have to. It's bigger than a coach. It's bigger than an owner. It's the shield.

It's the Titans, man. We are fortunate that 25 years ago, we got a team from Houston to come to the great state of Tennessee and the heart of where the capital lives. in National Tennessee, and we cannot get people an excuse to think for even a moment that that was a mistake bringing the team to Nashville

because Nashville is an amazing place to be. But the only thing that Callahan's have contributed to the Tennessee Titans is Big Bertha, and that is it. Big Bertha is nice. That's a nice little. And trust me, when they fire Callahan, they better load the gum with one bullet and line him and his dad up because they're both gone.

Because our O line is embarrassing. And that's that's all I have to say. Boys work hard. Tighten up, baby. Tighten up. I don't even know what to do with Jack, man. Give me just a few things that why Titan fan base should be like happy. Be excited.

Because we have a rookie quarterback that one is a leader, he's composed and in a moment to where all eyes are looking at him. And everybody wants to see it just tank and fail more. He is just playing ball. and he wants to. So I think Cam Ward is the core value of that. And then I think Garrett said at first too, not just Cam Ward.

Like we have like a great rookie draft class that is showing promise on the field. And if we can just get some other things surrounded by them and clean up penalties and bad coaching decisions, like, you know, we're just a few games away from having something to believe in it. And the fucking AFC South is, I mean, the Colts are good.

And the Jags aren't bad either, but also the Texans, they don't look great, but I think that we're taking a lot of heat off of them because there's so much national press around number one draft pick, Brian Callahan, his record. There's just so much, but I do, like, this has been one of the most successful draft classes we've had in a long time. So, like, I can't hate Callahan about that. I can't. But I think if there is anything, like, yeah, believe in Cam Ward. I still do. And I until like he had that mistake on the pick six, sure. I said it before the season.

Cam Ward's going to throw a pick. Camor's going to throw two picks. I mean, everyone will inevitably. So like, unfortunately, the first one's a pick sick at the beginning of the game kills all momentum. But yeah, we got to just, we got to convert and not be, I mean, Joey Sly is our leading score, our kicker. So called it too.

And I really wish he had drilled that 62 yarder because he, he has that in his bag. but fucking yeah yeah it's tough out there huh yeah but I mean I don't want to be spoon fed fucking championships we have character here in Nashville because we've we've hurt and we've cut our teeth with horrible losses

our whole lives good news 12 years ago we went 2 and 14 3 and 13 yep and then it rattled off a few 9 and 7 seasons but here's to 12 more we can fucking we can do this yeah I can turn it's there dude I mean I mean, this week is not a good example for that, but the first two games, the first half, like, we're in there.

Even the Broncos game towards the end. Like, you're in there. You can win that game. And buddy, if you guys just get rid of the penalties. And I know that's a ridiculous statement coming from me, but it's like, do you see my tweet yesterday? Is the one I responded to? No, I was like, way, yeah, I was firing off tweets. I said way too many penalties, need your expertise, Taylor.

I think I did respond to I said this is too much even for me because it is I watched pretty much 11 to that game yeah hey good on you and Taylor gave me a call yesterday and I missed it and I looked at it

and I just look at Taylor on this call and I go fuck and Taylor had some really it was a great little seven minute combo inspiring and you know it was just nice to get that shower and just be like oh man I can breathe for a second let's get on the road when I got up in the morning on Sunday

on Sunday and I popped on the old bird and I saw you screaming at Colts fans at 8 a.m. Yeah, Bud Light in hand. Shout out Bud Light. And then I watched a pick six in the beginning. I'm thinking Jack might not show up tomorrow. But Jack might not be on the earth tomorrow. No. Honestly, walking out of the stadium

being like, fuck this. Fuck Callow. I'm like oh my God. The only thing that really kept me in it and unfortunately Will at your cost, I was like, man at least Will's getting his head shaved today. I did wake up with a spring of my step this morning knowing that Will was getting his haircut first me too I was like yes a chef who's one of our our new guys he said he was like dude I like

I just didn't even feel anything like I don't feel he's like is it bad that I'm just not feeling anything about the Titans like being bad and I'm like no I feel like that's like a lot of people it's just kind of the standard right now it goes it goes back to standard we talked about with Clemson like you fire dabbo you're going to go back to what you were before for sure The good thing for the Titans is there is no standard right now. No. You have no standard. And it hurts, but it also kind of helps.

Yeah, I agree. So. Scary team got nothing to lose. Amen. Going into Houston. Let's go. Road dogs. Who did an animal?

They might have some trouble with that D-line from Houston now. For sure. They didn't go slow down. This is an under game. This is an under game. C.J. Stratt, he's having a tough one out there right now. What sucked to hear was that Colts wide receiver would be like, we walked on the field and saw the,

they just didn't even want it. Oh. Like, that is, that is heartbreaking. Yeah. Daniel Jones is picking them apart. Daniel Jones might be your MVP.

He looked at you. He might be your MVP. Who knows? Hey, he does look good. He does. It feels good. He's in a good spot for himself.

And I loved hearing, I think it was Sequin before the weekend. He was like, man, seeing how everything went down with him in New York, there's nobody I'm rooting for harder to have success based on how, good of like you know a dude a worker of everything Daniel Jones is so it is really cool to see him

kind of balling out especially when they made that switch and the whole world was on fire about giving up on Anthony Richardson and he's going out there and proving those decision makers right saved a lot of people's jobs yeah oh yeah and i also love uh was it ursay's daughter on the field oh yeah taking notes the whole time it has the earpiece in listening to the play call like who knows what she's actually doing but at the intentional being intentional about her father's team is very, very cool to me. I love it. Colts are spicy.

And the Boys of Wilcoffin, spicy. Coupes are spicy. Keep to faith. Jaguars. Jaguars aren't it? Colts are winning the division. They keep going the way they are. They're there, man.

I mean, in the AFC, there's got to be one of the best three teams. Damn. Breaking News. I mean, you'll hear this tomorrow, but CD Lamb. This is today. This is the recap show. Oh, yeah. So, a Perfect. CD Lamb will likely miss four to six weeks diagnosed with a high ankle spring. Buddy, that is the worst news for the Cowboys. And especially after the Cowboys losing the Bears yesterday.

One CD went down, it was their offense was done. They handled them, yeah. It wasn't fun to watch. Yesterday it was like a Chiefs game. It's after the Titans game, you're just like, man, like, I'm trying to put on a movie. So you were gone, obviously you're watching Titans all afternoon. So you're in like your own little hell. But there were some moments yesterday in the afternoon. It's like the blocked kicks that were getting taken back. The Jets and Baker goes on a game-winning drive again. You think the Jets are about to win the game because they blocked that kick. I love the game.

The Eagles snuck it out. Minnesota, Carson Wentz looking good. Yeah, the Eagles Rams game at the end. Not only that, but the entire gambling world that had the Rams like plus two and a half, plus three and a half. And then it gets blocked and taken back. I was hoping Jordan Davis would go down on my trip. Yeah, fall, fall, fall. Because buddy, I was one of those gamblers that had them, had a back.

bag on them too. What happened to the Falcons? Don't watch that at all? I was just seeing the highlights. Not really. Because again, it's like Falcons, Panthers. Even when I saw them down, I'm like, ah, they'll probably figure it out and turn it around them not, losing 30 to nothing against the Panthers. Yeah. Let's say, listen,

great reaction show. Once again, if you took up as this long, you hashtag, tier talk towards the end of the weekend. We'll all questions, comments, concerns, everything, we will, we will hit them. Appreciate you guys. Michigan, Michigan, Michigan Boston Bowl champions feels good.

Feels good. Feels like 97. Feels like 97 all over again. Done it? Done it? What are you asking? What's the question? This team feels like 97's team

for Michigan? I don't want to ask that question because you can get around that. Who won the national championship in 1997? The Michigan Wolverines won the national championship. Big hugs, tiny kisses. We'll see you guys tomorrow. See you in the Big Ten championship.

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