Bussin' With The Boys - Will Compton, Taylor Lewan & Clay Matthews Worried About Eagles + Only Delanie Walker Picks Bills

Episode Date: October 2, 2025

Welcome back to The Locker Room with Clay Matthews, Delanie Walker, Will Compton, & Taylor Lewan! This week, we dive into the exciting matchups of Commanders VS. Chargers, Titans VS. Cardinals, Br...oncos VS. Eagles, Patriots VS. Bills, Buccaneers VS. Seahawks, and Chiefs VS. Jaguars. New episodes every Thursday at 6:00 AM CT.    Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 12:23 Commanders VS. Chargers 19:03 Titans VS. Cardinals 32:04 Broncos VS. Eagles 42:47 Patriots VS. Bills 49:21 Chiefs VS. Jaguars 56:19 Buccaneers VS. Seahawks 1:02:28 Bet The Boys Parlay See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, it is the first day of spooked over. If you're wondering, I got this beautiful shirt, it's bwtb.com. You are watching the NFL Walker with myself, Clay Matthews, Willie C, and Delaney Walker. Let's take a little peek over here at the records. Ignore this. Ignore going 3 and 3, 15 and 9 over the season. Clay Matthews will not go away. He's like a cockroach.
Starting point is 00:00:21 You just can't kill him. He's 14 and 10. Will 12 and 12, 500. Nothing wrong with being 500 in the gambling world. And then Delaney seems about right. right with Delaney. Listen, we have a great show for you today. A lot of stuff to talk about. You saw the creating Caucasians last week. Take on the Chargers. We'll probably break that down a little bit. Stadaboo, dart, the whole thing. A lot of fun games. Also, a little bit of Titans Talk because we have a
Starting point is 00:00:42 watch party this weekend. Big hugs, tiny kisses. Let's have a great show. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, and on my new podcast, How Hard Can It Be? I call on my Gen X squad from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate Midlife's most fantastic BS. filtered conversations from night sweats to futas to scheduling sex. Wait, what sex? Is it just me or does every woman my age want to look at Pinterest instead of having sex sometimes?
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Starting point is 00:03:41 Get locked and loaded before kickoff. Gamble responsibly, drink responsibly. Yes, there you go. Both of those things. Shout out, Michael a Bolter. Right. Okay to have a little fun though. Okay to have a little bit of fun. Oh yeah, I love having fun, eh?
Starting point is 00:03:52 Hey? Yeah, eh? I love it, dude. You're from everywhere. How about everywhere you did? You're from everywhere. How do you feel about being 11, 13, going two and four last week? Whole world's kind of whispering that the way really had the 18th best gambler in Nashville? I mean, I feel good right where I'm at, you know? It's not how you start, it's how you finish.
Starting point is 00:04:10 It's the first quarter. It's time for me to put my motherfucking jogging shoes on. Right. Take the grill out, put the jogging shoes on. There you go. Yeah. Get going, you know. Do you attribute this the past week to that list at all?
Starting point is 00:04:24 Uh, yeah. Maybe a little bit. You know what, man, you know, I was, it was just an off day for the NFL, not me. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good Josh Pateism. But I don't want to take away from the beginning of the show because we all know who owns the beginning of our locker room show, Clay Matthews. Oh, you brought us something today?
Starting point is 00:04:44 I, nope. I did not bring up. I did not bring it today. I did bring... It's Scoot-Tober. I brought the tools to open the cheese. We could do that later. Today? Yeah, I brought we could open that.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Got the tools. I brought the tools to open the cheese. I noticed you walked in with a coffee. What kind of coffee did you have this morning? I don't know. I skipped breakfast today. I had my son's fourth grade devotion. I had to get there on time.
Starting point is 00:05:08 A little hungry, little thirsty. I went over there. Pumpkin spice... What did I have? Latay. Pumpkin spice latte. It was pretty good. little feminine but it was good there nothing wrong with that nothing wrong with me
Starting point is 00:05:20 but for someone who skipped breakfast I really enjoyed it Gailer Williams one last two games he's got a little salt little sugar you know he paints a finger nails so nothing wrong with yeah yeah nothing wrong it was good though it is the belly it is the fault it's good to have a seasonal beverage Packers tying against the Cowboys that was well jump straight into that buddy let's talk about it we look dumb on ESPN me you we didn't look dumb Darylopheel everyone's going to be a boat race yeah but we Don't look dumb. It should have been a boat race. Should have. But then we forgot about Dak Prescott.
Starting point is 00:05:51 And George Pickens. Oh, my God. He went off. He went off. We needed that. But also what happened to the Packers' defense? Packers' defense, clock management at the end, just missed opportunities. That's why you saw at the end of the game, you know, you saw Dak smiling and Dallas all happy because they knew they should not have won that game. Ties a win for them.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that's a dub for them. I've been a part of another tie in 2018 with the Packer. and we've tied to the Vikings, and it feels like a loss when you're supposed to come out on top, especially when this was supposed to be, you know, Micah's revenge game. Who, and, you know, the Packers,
Starting point is 00:06:26 they look great on those first two series, but after that blocked PAT two points, Dallas just got it rolling after that. You know Jerry Jones was happy. I was just in that statement. He had the Viagra rolling in the fourth quarter. He had little sparks. When he didn't play good against his team,
Starting point is 00:06:42 yeah, he was like, yeah, I knew I made the perfect decision. And then Mike up being as angry as he probably was, only getting one sack. And it's kind of like a... We'll take it. We'll take it. He'd always take it. You always take it.
Starting point is 00:06:53 But you're right. They add up. You could say, hey, maybe Dak was looking to score right there. He saved the game. It's a good narrative. Yeah. With the pack. But...
Starting point is 00:07:01 That is the problem with y'all defensive lineman, man. You guys will take what you can get. I played Miles Garrett, his rookie year. And we ran like a shovel pass type of player. All I have to do is hinge block. I'm basically just blocking out. It's a very easy block. Someone messes up the play and Marcus keeps the ball.
Starting point is 00:07:14 And so, Miles just kept running and Marcus slid down. He just tapped him. He goes, appreciate it. You feel good about that? Yeah, he's like, yeah, I do actually. That's on the stat sheet. At the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Take it every single time. So do you think Green Bay do not play well at home? Obviously, away they're playing terrible away. Wait, so what are you asking me? I'm sorry? Green Bay played terrible away. Do they play terrible away? I mean, they were what, seven, eight and no at AT&T Stadium.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I thought they played well offensively. I think their defense just had a huge lapse, and they didn't, they gave up that turnover right before the first half ended, gave up that touchdown. Obviously, the blocked PAT. I think there was opportunities for them to win the game, and they just didn't capitalize it. But I don't know. I mean, right now, I think it's, I think the Packers are going to be fine. I just look at Detroit. I look at Detroit.
Starting point is 00:08:06 And I go, you can't give up these games. All right, you give up a 12 o'clock to Cleveland, who's got number one defense. Okay, we'll give you that. but Detroit did not to Cleveland. They looked terrific. They're getting their legs. And the Packers now at, are they even first in the division? Or would they be second now?
Starting point is 00:08:22 They'd be second. However it is, I'm just saying it's going to be an arms race with Detroit and the Packers. And we, we, Packers cannot give up. Where they play at? Where is that game going to be played? Is it in Green Bay? No, it'll be in Detroit. In Detroit.
Starting point is 00:08:36 They're going to. Yeah, because Green Bay beat Detroit. They did, yeah. And they look good. They look good. You got it. injury. When is that? Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Okay. Packers got time. Oh, Thanksgiving, too. Oh, she. That would be a good game. That would be a good game. It might be. Could just fall apart.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Gotta give a shout to Schottenheimer, though. The way he game planned Michael Parsons the entire game. Went away from him. A lot of boots, got the ball out quickly. Off its line. Was it Tyler and Terrence? They both did a great job. A lot of chip help.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Like, they game playing Michael Parsons in a big way. And they crushed it. I mean, Dak. No one expected. I mean, Dak played the best three of him. He's playing great. He's playing pretty well. That was incredible.
Starting point is 00:09:15 And I'm telling you, if they can keep playing like that and we look at this trade as a whole after all the dust is settled, it looks good for Dallas moving forward, is all I'm going to say. I mean, it looks good for Green Bay too, though, now. Yeah, but it's good for both teams. But obviously we're going to have to see how this plays out in years from now with these draft picks. I think it's good for Green Bay because they play with the lead a lot of times. And you've got your closer and Micah coming in getting new. sacks, but I think it's good for both teams. We'll see how it plays out. I think it's too soon to say, you know, who benefits from it more. But, you know, it was a fun game as a fan to watch.
Starting point is 00:09:51 That's all I'll say. But when would he be coming every down defensive? I don't think he should. I don't think he should. I'd like to see him play about. Yeah. That's crazy. Yes. You saw what, you saw what he did in week one, right? Yeah. He affected the game versus Detroit by coming in, you know, sparingly and creating chaos. I think, like every great pass rush, or there's a few exceptions. You know, a buddy in Detroit, who I'm blanking on his name. But he played every down. That's what I'm saying. Max Crosby. Every down. That's what I'm saying. But there's others who I think if you keep
Starting point is 00:10:21 at, you know, 70% and you're rolling them in, they can play with a little bit more effort, you know, and that's what Mike is all about. Disruption. I think it would for that amount of money. I agree. I agree, but I'm just saying I think he's best like that. Wouldn't that be a hell of a deal he paid $40 million, but hey, we want you to play $65, seven. You won't you play in the things you want to play in with your third down. I'm not saying all, yeah, every third down, nickel, dime. I'm just saying, you know, maybe every third series, just give him a blow for about two, three plays.
Starting point is 00:10:53 So he's feeling good. Just my thoughts. How are you feeling, how are you guys feeling if you're in the Ravens building right now? Oh, my God. You're in hell right now. I mean, the L's they take in right now, what they won in three, eh? Injuries, injuries. Lamar not looking like Lamar.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Lamar's hurt. Now, he's out. I think, honestly, I think Lamar was hurt before last game. I know, I felt like it because he wasn't getting out of the pocket. Yeah, there wasn't like an insane amount of like, oh, like there was some, like we talked about Detroit. And when he's out, it's like the acceleration you're used to see him from. It feels like it's not there. So hopefully he can get healthy.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Derek had like eight rushes. They didn't even run with Derek. They really didn't. They put him in the whole game. He was getting off too, though. Almost killed me in fantasy too. have four point two points that was really scary for a minute yeah i don't know what's going on with the ravens right now the defense injured injured since if they're 11 starters are injured
Starting point is 00:11:48 i'm gonna say this though i still think the ravens win the division i don't know i mean steeler's looked great yeah you saw the recipe yeah steers haven't played but they look great overremen's got what texans this week and then i think they got one other game and then a buy week and then they come back and not until they play the bills are they did they play they already play the bills? They got some game. I forget who it is. Yeah. But I think they got a chance to... Yeah, but the Texans, you go on the Fandul app, Texans are dogs by one and a half points since they pick them.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Because they know, like, the defense of lines... Well, I'm saying, they might... If Cooper rushes your starter, not Lamar Jackson, which is probably going to be. You're missing six out of your 11 starters. They might be two and four or one and five at the buy, is all I'm saying. But after that, I think they got a... After that, bro. Well, I'm just saying, look at the division. Cleland is a three and one right now. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:12:33 They look good. They ruined my Vikings' pick. A-Rod still slinging it. They had a run game. Defense, just creating turnovers. Everything we said they couldn't do, they're doing. Right. $179 million put in that defense. How many Minnesota?
Starting point is 00:12:46 Shut up last week. If one team's going to figure it out, if the Ravens are one in five or one in six to buy, or you say, oh, the Steelers defense can eventually figure it out, I'm going to go with the Steelers defense is eventually going to figure it out. With the one loss record. Establish a run game and use your play action. If you can rush for over 75 yards a game, you're going to be successful. fall because you got the safety's coming out and everyone's backing up.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Arod, you just said it can sling it. DK found himself a little separation. Wilcofton was critical on that. I agreed with him too. So it seems like... So are we all in on Pittsburgh? Is that what we're saying? A.C. North?
Starting point is 00:13:19 No. On our preview show. The preseason. We had Steelers. We had Steelers. Yeah, I had to... $4,000. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Yeah, yeah. I don't know if Arodd will get that? I don't know if A.R.O.000. I mean, if you get that with D.K. every week, you know, maybe. I will say this, your AFC West pick is looking decent. Chiefs. It's looking decent.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Two and two. Raiders have a lot more issues. Quarterbacks turn the ball over quite a bit. You got the Chargers who are seeing at the top of that division, but they're on their third and fourth tackles right now. Yeah. The amount of pressures that they're giving up. 20 plus pressures in the last game. It's actually a great opportunity to jump into our Commander's Chargers game if you guys want to.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Let's do it. Commanders Chargers? Commanders Chargers. Commanders Chargers, Chargers are favorite at two and a half. This game is in L.A., by the way. Total points in that game is 48.5 points. This is where the fear comes in for me with the commanders. Or with the Chargers is like the amount of pressures
Starting point is 00:14:17 and the amount of hits you're giving up on Herbert is just, it's a lot, man. I think they're number one in the league and pressures giving up 50 in the last two games. And Washington has a good, Washington has a good front seven. They have a good front seven. The question for me is like, who's your quarterback? Is it Jayden Daniels? Is he coming back in playing? Because with Jayden Daniels are averaging 19.5 points per game.
Starting point is 00:14:40 With Marcus Marriota at the helm, 34 points per game. So what's your- That might be skewed a little bit with those. Sample-size, two and two. Okay. One played the Packers, and I'm not sure who they played in week one, but I think Jaden Daniel gives... It was a divisional game.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Those are always talking... Divisional game. No, I'm just saying, Marioter's done a good job, bridging the gap, but I think you have a better chance with Jaden in there. Maybe long term. I mean, I think Jaden.
Starting point is 00:15:06 I think either one. Either one can operate that offense exactly the way Dave Kui wants to be operated. Jaden is the man right now. We know that. I'm just saying the numbers are right here. I mean, we all love Marcus. Don't get me wrong, but Jaden is coming back. He's going to be the starter.
Starting point is 00:15:23 No, there's no doubt. I mean, he's a stunt. So who you got then? Is this one of those if Jaden plays? I'm going chargers. I don't go against Jim Harbaugh. So I'll just skip that. Yeah, he was coach.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Yeah, I'm going to go against Jim Harball. You know, the top five quarterback in the league right now. I just don't do that. It's just what it is. I'm going with the Chargers, too. I just look at how the commanders played against, who was it, the Falcons last week? They made Pennix who has not played incredibly well. Look, amazing, 300 plus yards, however many touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And you got Herbert. And obviously you hear Harbaugh after the game talk about, we need to protect him a little bit more. They're going to scheme something in because that old line film was trash last week for them. Obviously, they didn't expect to lose alt, you know, as early as they did. So if they can protect him. But even though he's pressured 20 times, he only got sacked twice. I'm saying he can still make, Herbert can still make plays moving around the pocket. But give me the Chargers, back at home, game planning some protection for him on a leaky commander's defense.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yeah, when Herbert's pressure, he was five for 19. He got 26.3% completion rating when he's pressured. Lab McConkey out there dropping balls dropping balls, which is not. Chargers, Off the line is giving up the most pressures, and the commanders are putting up the third most pressures in the NFL. I think they're going to put them in a bit of a situation. When your tackles go down, so does your run game. Ladd-McConkie dropping balls. I like the commanders with the points in this game.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I'm taking the commanders with the points. I like them. What was those points again? I'm sorry. Two and a half. Spielball game. I'm going commanders too. I'm going commanders too.
Starting point is 00:16:56 They run the ball well. You know, whether it's Jane, whether it's Marcus, I think they're both going to, I think they'll both play well. and they do have a run game. And a lot of chunk plays that they did have last week against the Falcons, they're getting called back because of offensive penalties. So you've got to fix the discipline on that end. Then when you look at defensively,
Starting point is 00:17:13 this is one of the better run defenses, and they can get after the passer a little bit. But run defensively, they had 11 missed tackles. I think that's more of a product of Bijon Robinson being an absolute stud. I do think Hampton's a very good running back, but that's something that they'll be looking at. You can't have 11 missed tackles
Starting point is 00:17:28 because a couple of them go for a touchdown. And I just think I think the, charges offensive line struggling. If you watch that, if you watch the right guard, I mean, buddy's stiff. You get the TEs going on and everything else. He can't turn very well. It looks like my wife in her third trimester.
Starting point is 00:17:45 I think they pick on him a little bit. I think they can get after him a little bit, especially rushing four. I like the commanders here in a close game. I like him with two and a half. I know it's a field goal game. I think that's what it's going to come down to. But I'd give me the commanders. On the road in L.A. That's the only thing that kind of worry about.
Starting point is 00:18:01 And it's lit. And it's lit right now. And I think, I mean, this game's so close, if Joe Alt doesn't have a high ankle sprain or whatever he does have, I think I start leaning towards the charges. Wait, so Joe not playing? No.
Starting point is 00:18:12 He's out. Joe's out. Bro, their offense line's out. They're starting right guard. I always forget his name. I mean, it was a feast for the D-line. And the charges don't really, they don't, you have to blitz if they're going to rush the passer.
Starting point is 00:18:26 They can't really get home that well before. Washington is a little inconsistent. Yeah. with their pass blocking, but again, I feel like the charges don't, don't initiate a whole lot of pass rush with their front forward. They're a very stout defense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The commanders are going to have their hands full with that just energy defense. Yeah, with that defense, for sure.
Starting point is 00:18:44 It's like if you have no operation on offense. Yeah, that sucks. Just having Joe out, too, but I'm still going to go with the charges. Oh, Maillian, hey, he ran for over 100. Yeah, he's averaging over the last two games 100 yards. They need as well, as the lead back now with Naji going out. So that's why I have to. But they need to run the ball more, bro.
Starting point is 00:19:03 They don't. How many times they run it last? 50, like 53 plays on offense and only 12. What was the score? I mean, they're playing from behind. 21, 18. Yeah, but still, even when they're starting drives, like, they need a, they just need a run the ball.
Starting point is 00:19:13 They're playing from behind, but they're not playing from like multiple touchdown. It's like, you know, you've got the armed talent with Herbert behind. And so they're just leaning on him. It's like, bro, work, like, run the ball. You have a hell of a running back. It was very interesting. Like, in the first game of year in Brazil against the Chiefs, everyone's like, hey, the charges are going to run it.
Starting point is 00:19:29 They're going to run it. for that as well and then they threw it all over the yard it's like oh what a good curve ball to throw at them and the next game same thing same thing it's like hey hey hardball like you run the ball but if you're on your eighth and ninth offensive lineman like you only keep nine so i mean sometimes just eight like you're starting to dip in you're bringing up guys off practice squad you're finding guys and other teams bringing them over and knowing like one more guy goes down you have a dude that's sitting on the couch or we can go yeah yeah chief sitting pretty right now chief sitting pretty right now Two and two.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I mean, yeah. Oh, I'm telling it, yeah. That's the chiefs, though. That's the chiefs. And that's all it took for them was that one game against the Ravens where it's like, oh, okay. It doesn't matter if they're hurt or not. Figure it out.
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Starting point is 00:20:44 Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.
Starting point is 00:20:54 We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcast. A pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jones. and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
Starting point is 00:21:33 But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, actress, mother, lover, and a Gen X woman walking through life one hot flash and hormonal crying jag at a time. You ladies know what I mean. I'll bet you a perimenopausal chin here you do. So let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Join me on my new podcast, How Hard Can It Be with De Anamari Ariva, where I call on my Gen X squads from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate midlife's most fantastic BS. All of a sudden, I'd had hanginess happening on my own. I was like, what the hell is that? I was married when I had her, so I didn't even consider how empty that nest was going to be. Mood swings, night sweats, fupas, sex drive. Wait, what sex? Dating at 45. How high can it be getting naked at 50? with the new guy.
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Starting point is 00:22:44 as part of my Cultura podcast network available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano and our podcast. podcast point game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what.
Starting point is 00:23:03 He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed.
Starting point is 00:23:24 He has to guard. Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running the court, licking his fingers, why he got the ball. Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah.
Starting point is 00:23:44 You figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Yeah. Let's talk about the O and four Tennessee Titans at the Arizona Cardinals. It's two and two this week. We do have a watch party at the Brooklyn Bowl this Sunday. Join us. Have some laughs. Have some fun. Maybe enjoy. Maybe we build some camaraderie over some pain going on with Tennessee right now. I personally don't know why we're talking about. There's somebody in the comments last week. Like, why are we talking about? I forget what the bad game was that we were talking about. Bengals, probably.
Starting point is 00:24:17 The Bengals, Minnesota. Jets, Miami. No, Bengals played the Broncos. That was two weeks ago. It was the Bengals, Minnesota. because both quarterbacks was hurt. And we're like, why are we picking this game? Because both quarterbacks is up. But last week we had the Rams, Colts happening, and we didn't even talk about that game.
Starting point is 00:24:32 And by the way, I'm not here to throw anybody out of the bus. Jeremy Clump does pick our games. Is that you or are you here? The Clumps? Yeah, that's where somebody in the comments is like, why are you guys talking about that? I feel the same way about this one. No, I know. I saw this.
Starting point is 00:24:45 I said. We're doing a watch party. We're doing a watch party. By the way, we're doing a watch party. By the way, we're doing a watch party at the Brooklyn Bowl to watch the O'N4 Titans versus the two and two Cardinals in Arizona. Okay. That's why we put this on the show.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Okay. Okay. So what's your opinion on the Titans? Let me ask you. I'll give you my opinion under 41 and a half. No, no. I'm asking about the organization. I love that pick.
Starting point is 00:25:10 That is the pick of this game. That is a good pick. That is a good pick. The question when it comes to this is like, what do I care more about? Making the Titans feel good about me picking them or my record? I'm not going to pick the Titans, pairing simple. I'm just asking like. He's asking.
Starting point is 00:25:24 about the organization. Well, we had this conversation on the bus. It's tough right now. It's hard. I mean, there's, you could tell there's not a lot of hope in that building. From a personnel standpoint, they're not very competitive. They probably lack the most talent of any team
Starting point is 00:25:36 in the NFL right now. They're 32 to 32. Situational, not great. They've proven that four weeks in a row. Not a competitive game plan. How do they turn it around? How do they turn? This is what I want to know.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Everybody their blames, ownership, Amy Adams, Strunk, head coach, Cam Ward, where does the blame lie? And how do you turn it around? Rather than just, yeah, they suck. They scored zero points, gave up play, whatever it is. Like, how do they turn it around? Because this is probably the lowest in 27 years, would you say, however long.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Oh, yeah. They haven't been this best since 2005. That's what I'm saying. That's what I want to ask you guys who have been in the building who understand. No, 2005, this is the worst. We haven't been 0 and 4 since 2005. That makes you feel better. So look, I don't believe it's Amy.
Starting point is 00:26:23 I'm going to just be honest. with you. I believe Amy came in and changed the organization straight up. Before Amy got there, you should have saw how the facility was. You should have saw how the organization was ran before she came. She came and brought money and turned the organization around. We got better. Now, when it comes to the coaches, it's like, who are we hiring? Are we hiring buddies? Good coaches are friends that's going to be like a yes man, believe whatever the head coach saying, don't argue with them, what type of coaches are, do they have on the staff? Because at the end of the day, a head coach depend on his coaching staff.
Starting point is 00:27:00 And when the coaching staff let you down, you take the blame. Because he gave up the offensive coordinating play calling sheet, but it didn't seem no different. I don't know, I don't know who the offensive coordinator is. Now, Jack, what's his name? There's a quarterback coach calling plays, I think. What's the offensive court? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:19 You know, like I said, I'm locked in with the ties and everything they're doing. You know, I'm outside watching, so I can't speak on what's happening in the facility. But if y'all look at some of them play calls from last week, like a double reverse. You ain't even get the run game going. Didn't try to do a double pass and throw it back to camp. But you still ain't got the running game going. Like it was just some of those play callings were questionable. And I don't believe it's on the head coach.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I believe it's on the coaching staff around him. Are you pushing your guys? Are you challenging them? Are you holding them accountable? What is really happening in the locker room? So keep Callahan and get rid of all and get... I didn't say that. I'm just trying to get to the bottom.
Starting point is 00:28:00 You're in bed with the Titans, so I'm just... Maybe we should go to Willie C. over here and just, you know, who can just tell it how it is and doesn't feel like, you know, he's going to hurt feelings over there at Titans Ave. Titans Ave. Whatever the address is. I think if they don't have any life, you got to blow it all up. I think you got to blow it all up.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Like the Joker. Yeah. Like what kind of expectation are you going to have like as an organization? Like is it, are we going to be patient with the head coach for another year because they got Cam Ward when he's like his start as a head coach has been the worst? It's just as bad. He's one game away from being just as bad as Ken was on. I think it's 319 now.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Yeah. Is that right? Yep. Which might even go across the league as well. No, definitely. Yes. Look, Coach Callahan, friend of the show, but we all know what this business is. Like you don't.
Starting point is 00:28:51 you don't put any results out there on the field. Like you got people questioning if guys are even fighting during practice, if guys are even wanting it at practice. Like, it's an absolute disaster right now in Tennessee. Yeah, I agree with everything. You just said, Cali, friend of the show, great guy, fan of the show. Ex-friend or the show after your... No, I don't think he's ex-friend of the show.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Like, I like him as a person. I think he's proven what a head coach should do is situational football, putting your guys in position to win. He hasn't done that. And it's a results-based league. And NFL stands for not for long, just for the players. If you don't put results as a coach, you're also not going to be there for long. So I think it's bad.
Starting point is 00:29:30 I don't think it's going to get a whole lot better. When you talk about the reverses and the double passes, to me, that's like we have nothing. We can't run the ball. We can't throw it down the field. Like, let's try to get a spark in a sneaky way. I mean, don't be surprised if they run an on-side kick against the Cardinals. Maybe to open the game type of thing. Well, they can't even do that with you kickoff.
Starting point is 00:29:48 It's ridiculous. Yeah, like, take. punt something like they're there's so much desperation taking place in national Tennessee when it revolves around the Tennessee Titans that like yeah if I'm Amy who I do blame for this is a person that like listen if you are the owner of a team and you have a fan base which my pulse of the fan base is Garrett and Jack and I see their their moods and their attitudes and I just think to myself if they're feeling this way that I assume all the real Titans fans are also feeling the same way if I'm Amy when I never we do get rid of Calhann
Starting point is 00:30:21 I'm not putting some sort of like one sheet or lawyer, hey, we appreciate everything Callahan has done for us. Well, it's like essentially a video for being like, I failed you guys. And the city of Tennessee deserves better. And I'll do a better job of sifting through the coaching cycle and figuring out the right person. But the fans of Tennessee deserve betterness. You do that.
Starting point is 00:30:39 I think the fan base goes, oh, she actually does care. Because a lot of the feeling around Nashville is Amy doesn't give a shit about this team. I'm going to be honest with you. Name one fucking owner, billionaire that goes out in. apologize to the fans about a coach that they picked up. It's a new age of football. It ain't happening. I don't disagree with you that it's not happening.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I think if you want this age we're living in where everyone has access to so much and people have a, they can humanize you when they see you as opposed to reading a shoot of paper, if I'm the owner, if I'm in her camp, I'd be like, hey, this is something you should really consider because you have a lot of people in Nashville that want to believe in you, however do not right now. But honestly, I know what the situation is. She pays someone to do that. No doubt.
Starting point is 00:31:25 She writes and she pays this one guy who pretty much does everything. And he goes out and he reads all of that stuff. She don't want to be in front of the TV. That ain't her thing. She's like, I want to be in the back. Like, I want all the glory when it comes to me. But when the bad stuff happens, I don't want to be a part of it. And I, you know, I understand.
Starting point is 00:31:42 You know, she's. But what you're saying, well, you're basically explaining this poor leadership. It ain't on her, man. I feel like she didn't make that. She didn't, she wasn't the one picked the coach. It was the GMs who picked the coach. But either way, the people up top got out, you know, you look at what variable, they're two and two in New England,
Starting point is 00:31:59 that game circle when, uh, shop 42. Payton she was shop 42. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And also, you're talking about like she didn't pick the coach. Well, she picked the guy who picked the coach. You're right.
Starting point is 00:32:09 And you're talking about the GM. The GM was fired after that picked that coach. So it's like. So who you think going to get fired this year? I mean, I would assume if it keeps going this way that the coaching staff gets fired. There you go. That's what's going to happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:26 But it's like we're talking about what do you do to preserve and protect? Right now. Nashville, Tennessee, which should be your number one goal besides winning games. Like you want to win games. You want to be a competitor. You want to be a team that people look at in your schedule and go, we got to worry about the Titans because they're X, Y, and Z. This is their identity. The next thing you need to focus on is the people that are essentially making you money every single year, and that's the fans.
Starting point is 00:32:53 And if you're not taking the fans into account at all times, then you're going to lose this organization. Because the fans are going to be the ones who shows up to that new stadium. That's true. That is so true. But if you look at it, we've been here before. We've been here before, Taylor. Yeah, we have. Fans are up and down in Tennessee. There's no doubt. But, Dee, you're saying it's not, are you saying, like, to me it's justified all of these. question marks that are happening with ownership, with coaches, everything. Because no matter how you felt about Vrable, whether you thought it was the right or wrong
Starting point is 00:33:25 call, whatever it was, like, you still had winning seasons happening, except what was the last one? The last season he had. The last season, the last season, the last two was kind of shaky. The talent level got a whole lot worse than the last season. It got worse. Yeah. It got worse.
Starting point is 00:33:37 But that Vrabel, that's Vrabel, because Vrable like to find guys and, like, build him up. The Patriots way. The Patriots way. That's Vable doing. He loves that because he loves. loves to find a guy who's not really there, but he know he can coach him and get him to that level. That's Brabel. Brable loves that. He loves turning, like, good players into great players. That's his whole MO. I think the thing you're having a difficult time with is being critical
Starting point is 00:34:04 of a team you played for a long time that you did so much for and that you care about. No, I'm critical. I just, I don't believe it's Amy. That's my whole thing. Buddy, if you own the team, just like being a quarterback. When you win, it's on you. When you lose, it's on you. And if you're the owner of a team, when you win, we should all be praising Amy and her ability to hire
Starting point is 00:34:26 and establish an organization. And when they lose, that does inevitably fall on you. That's the reality. But like, we need to have, if we're just focusing on the Titans, like you need to be care about the fans. Man, I sit back and think about
Starting point is 00:34:41 when I was with the 49ers, that never happened like with the owners. They never, when we were sorry, The owners, the one talked about firing the owners, get rid of the owners. The 49ers have been around since football was football. The Titans came in, what, 97, 98? You got to remember, they was the, it was the Oilers before that. Right, that was in Houston and they came to Nashville.
Starting point is 00:34:59 So you have all these fans that are like, we don't have a whole lot. Oh, what are these Titans about? Okay, they're really good right now. Well, like them, like, you're not going to have a foundational generations of kids being born, being like, or 49ers friends with this. No one's waking up being a Titans fan. Well, that's, other than a small 5%. Well, that's why in my mind, I feel like,
Starting point is 00:35:16 You know, whatever people say about the owner, it doesn't matter to her. Because regardless, it's going to be fans. Regardless, if fans are going to buy in into the Titans, any, every year, every year we're going to say, oh, we're going to go to the Super Bowl. We got these type of players. The fans come. Hey, man, we look good until you start playing games. And then once you start playing games, that's when the fans start chirping.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Oh, we're not good. We're not good. Amy needs to sell the team. You've been hurt. You've been hurt too much. No, I've not been here. I've been on multiple teams. I know how this plays out.
Starting point is 00:35:50 It's just the fact of we can't blame Amy for this. Well, I think no matter what, the product that's on the field right now, fans aren't dumb. Like a lot of politics have been played, and now all the politicking has gotten us to this point. You're in Tennessee. All that being said, give me the under. We just spent a lot of time on this bullshit-ass game.
Starting point is 00:36:11 You think so, G? He said, hell yeah. What do you say? They're winning. He said Titans. You got a few fans out there still. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:36:20 That answers my question right there. Those are the loyal, those are the fans. We have loyal fans out here. We do. They're sitting right. They're all here. Yeah. You want to keep it negative and talk about the Cardinals and Kyla Murray or should we move on?
Starting point is 00:36:33 Wait, you take into Cardinals? Oh, we're getting the Cardinals. We're getting the move on. Okay. Broncos are having the Eagles. I'm going to take the under. Give your picks real quick. Under.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Under. Oh, I didn't. Under 41.5. Oh, that money lines. That's Titans money line. You can't go call this money line. You can't. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Oh, yeah, no, I don't like that. All right, give me the Cardinals to cover. All right, let's talk about a real game here. We got Broncos and the Eagles. Eagles, favorite at home, four and a half points over under on this game, 43 and a half points. Who wants to kick it off? Boy, something's not right about these Eagles. Something's not right.
Starting point is 00:37:11 They're four and no. They're fighters. They're something not right. Yeah, they do have the moms. They had that moxie. They were the Super Bowl champions until they show us otherwise. But the product they're putting on the field to me seems like they're trying not to win games.
Starting point is 00:37:27 They're trying to not lose them. That made sense. However I said that. Now they started this game off the opposite of what happened against the range. Came out like gangbusters, blocked punt. Jalen Hertz was like, what, eight for nine against pressures, two TDs. And if they were a little softball underhanders. But the tush push variations, incredible, by the way.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Right. Keep it? Yeah. Keep it. Keep it. Keep it. Keep it. You know, you look at Seekwan.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Hasn't really had the success he had last year. You know, yards per carry. AJ Brown, here we go again. The penalties. I don't know. I don't know. All that being said, I like the Broncos. I like the Broncos in this game.
Starting point is 00:38:12 I know the Eagles games we picked. I've been all in. I got them going to the Super Bowl. But I love. love the Broncos defense. They're tied for second averaging 16 yards a game. Their rush yards, J.K. Dobbins, fifth, one of the best O-Lines, top five roster, and Bo Nix.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Just, I know I've been critical of some of his throws and whatnot, but you've got to understand the demand that Sean Payton's putting on him in only his second year. I think they'd continue to ascend. If it weren't for those, you know, the Indianapolis game where I think there was a bad turnover, late field goal. It was a penalty. Then same with that amazing throw by Herbert under pressure.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Like, I think they're a good team, and I like the Broncos to win this game. To win. To win. Money line. You taking money line? I'm taking money line. I do. That's plus 168 odds.
Starting point is 00:39:04 I do like your pick. I like it because the last thing I watched before I won this show is A.J. Brown and Devante Smith walking into the locker room after they beat the bucks. And the level of the pressure you see on their face. enthusiasm you go back and watch all a j brown was targeted nine times in the Tampa Bay game watch where those throws go a lot of more like seven of nine of those were uncatchable I think there is is this a boiling point happening right now with the Eagles we've talked about at Saquan Barclay isn't having the
Starting point is 00:39:32 numbers the creativity in the run game isn't as good as it could be they're not they're not attacking the perimeter with pin-pull techniques they use very athletic tackles in the past it seems like the Broncos defense they're firing on all cylinders. Their pressure, their number one in pressure. It was at Benito. Nick Benito. He's awesome. They have 74 pressures this year, which I don't think is going to mean a whole lot in this game, because Eagles don't throw a lot. But I do like Bowdo Nix and Sean Payne. Sean Payne's 30 and 30 in his career in September. Like that's his worst record is the month of September, because he brings this extremely complex playbook. He's got turnover every single year. You have guys need to learn it.
Starting point is 00:40:11 And as I get into the year, they understand the nuances of everything. Bo Nix is the perfect quarterback for that. You watch his throws when he's throwing into the flat. He puts, he puts, he puts it out to his running backs or the tight ends in front of them. So they're going forward when they're catching the ball. He is starting to understand the game at a brand at a whole new level. And it's because of Sean Payton always that defense, the way they're able to operate on offense. I see this being a breaking point for the Eagles where we're going to have a lot of, we're going to have a lot of fun clips, a lot of fun tweets from that wide receiver room when this game's over. I got the Broncos money line as well. As long as you don't see a whole lot of penalties from the
Starting point is 00:40:43 Broncos offense to kind of set themselves in bad situations. I like the Broncos a lot of this game. If you watch them in Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay had a great game schematically, defensively with a lot mixing in five-man fronts, six-man fronts to stop the run game in Sequin. You'll see Denver do that as well. And, you know, nothing against my big man, the big boy Vita V. A, but you got him trying to chase down Jailen Hurts because Jailen's going to have to make plays with his legs like he has in these first few games. I just think the Broncos have a much better defensive line. They got speed guys getting with the ground. They're going to have to stay disciplined in the rush lanes. They'll be playing a lot of good.
Starting point is 00:41:15 You know, man to man, or you bracket or double the star on some of these third down situations where you attack A.J. Brown and Devante Smith. I like the Broncos in this game. Their defense is very good. And again, it's like there's just there's something. And you can't quite talk about it yet until the Eagles lose a game.
Starting point is 00:41:32 But there's something going on there. There's something happening. I mean, you put up, what, zero passing yards, zero completions in the second half? They're going to have to win throwing the football. And that's where I like this front of the Denver Broncos because again they got a lot more speed than our big boy Vita V-Vay trying to chase down Jalen Hertz you know in the backfield.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Give a lot of credit to Baker Mayfield as well he was put in another position to have another game winning two minutes. He was. He had that one pick in the end zone. They had a lot of pun early in the game but Buccaneers like they were playing very salty on defense just Jalen makes a few plays with his legs which again he understands how to take care of the football and win in those situations he's done an incredible job of it.
Starting point is 00:42:08 I just like this defensive front more for Denver. I'd like to say I'd go on a record too. If the Eagles win this game, I'm done doubting the Eagles. Because I feel like every week I catch myself when I'm like studying for games. The Eagles happen to always be on our list because they're a really good team. They end up playing really good teams. And it's like something about them. They're going to fail.
Starting point is 00:42:25 And then they just don't. And if they beat the Broncos, they cover in this game, I'm done. I won't even do any homework on it from now on. I'll just say, hey, Eagles. I think there's still the, it's all still fair. But I think we need to start leaning more into Nick Seriani being a hell of a head coach. That was just about a... Somebody who can manage and operate an entire roster,
Starting point is 00:42:43 a lot of shit going on. You know, Big Dom's taking trips every day going to people's houses. He's putting out fires left. Putting out fires. Because even if they win this game, like they're still, like, even look at a couple years ago, would they start off 10 and 0, 10 and 1 or something like that? Then they just dropped a bunch of them.
Starting point is 00:42:57 That's because the poison, the rap poison. Yeah, yeah. Creeped into that whole thing. Siriani, man, like, you want to see a game this past year that you're like, okay, that's how you know you have a hell of coaching staff. It's the Rams game. Being down three scores, coming out of halftime. keeping the team you're playing against it at the same score and being able to beat them.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Like, in ultimate different ways. Like you block two different field goals. Your defense steps up in a big way against Matthew Stafford. Like that's Siriani and his, the Pulsias and the Coltrue has in that team. That being said, give me the Broncos money on. Yeah, I'm going to take the Eagles just because I feel like that defense has been keeping them in games. Obviously, they're a team that fights in the third and the fourth quarter. We've been seeing it.
Starting point is 00:43:36 They've been downed and then they somehow some way finished the game on top winning. And that's what makes them the Eagles Super Bowl champs. Jalen Hertz, MVP run this year. I know y'all don't want to believe it, but they, I'm telling you, the dude is winning games, and he's not doing it with a pretty fashion. He's doing it like pretty much on this. Yeah, they're 29th in the NFL through the air. Yeah, it's terrible.
Starting point is 00:44:00 It's usually you're saying MVP caliber season. He's still got MVP caliber season because he winning games. It's all about when you winning games, man. I'm telling you. It's all about winning games, and he's still winning games. with AJ not having catches, D. Smith not having catches, Barkley not running the ball well, but they still win in the games. They four and no.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Look at it. I'm telling you. What's an MVP? What's the MVP stand for? Most valuable player. He's the most valuable player. He's the most valuable team. Most valuable roster.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Most valuable roster. The Eagles. I'm not a Jalen Hertz hater. At least I'm trying not to be. But buddy, like, you know, you put a lot of other quarterbacks in that situation. I know, I don't think we're having these question marks. Top five quarterbacks right now. Baker, Daniel Jones, Matthew Stafford, Josh Allen.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Jalen Hertz? No, Justin Herbert. Timeout, time on. That's what I'm saying. Watch his MVP. No, that's his list. That's his list. You didn't see my foul.
Starting point is 00:44:59 I was frowning. You didn't know. Jalen Hertz in there? Like, come on. No, no. He asked, he goes, Jailen Hertz. He goes, Herbert. Oh, well, because that was his last spot.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I'm going to give, I'm giving Justin Herbert. Give me your top five then. What's your top five? I don't really care about that shit. I know you. The lady you can't do that. I'm just saying, I'm just getting your own my opinion.
Starting point is 00:45:21 But I'm taking the ego. I don't really care about all that. I'm just giving y'all my opinion. I'm talking about throwing an MVP out to a quarterback. Like, all right, well, who? Is he the number one quarterback? Is he the number one quarterback in the NFL? Right now, Justin is, but they have to have.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Jalen Hurts is tied for six in NBA. DIPI's according to Fandul. Okay, maybe he's six. He'll move up. He'll move up. It'll move up. It'll be seven, too. It'll move up.
Starting point is 00:45:48 And I will say a little nugget, though, the Eagles have won third. This is at the link. They've won 13 straight home games and have covered the last three. Just something to think about. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. You're trying to tell me that sad to switch my pen. This is in favor of the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:46:03 So you should. No, any time you give me a favorite game. Oh, I swear to die, I'm going to switch that shit. Yeah, man, he switched my pick. I hate those stats, man, because it just messes everything up.
Starting point is 00:46:18 I mean, that's a stat. That's got a, hey, Patriots are 56 and 42 at home when the weather is 65 degrees. Like, this is a- Where's your notebook at, man? This right here. Crack it open. Yeah, crack it. Give some people some data, man.
Starting point is 00:46:31 I don't have, I'd stop the data been crushing me, bro. I was good at the first year. Because you look at that data and you go, I don't like it. I don't like it. Yeah, I don't like it. But I'm still going to go. 13 and no at home against the spread. And then that's when they take an L because he just fucking said it.
Starting point is 00:46:45 I said it. My bad. My bad. I want to say this. Last week in college football, two teams had the longest home win streak. And took a L. Washington and Georgia. And they lost.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Yeah. I don't like the – And you said the stat, then you. Yeah. You thought it. He thought it. I see, I noticed that. But, no, to the Eagles lose, I got a ride with the Eagles.
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Starting point is 00:47:52 We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?
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Starting point is 00:49:39 Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva as part of My Cultura Podcast Network available on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs
Starting point is 00:49:56 without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series
Starting point is 00:50:16 because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get to fly.
Starting point is 00:50:36 of the court licking his fingers why he got the ball like after you go through a training camp with that Isaiah you figure it out real quick get your ass up and down the court and you're gonna get the ball so listen to Point Game on the Iheart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts Let's go to an old friend of ours
Starting point is 00:50:54 and also friends of the show Patriots at the Bills Bill's favored by eight and a half here over under on this game 50 and a half I gotta tell you I kind of like the Patriots Mind light or covering Patriots, 42 points on the Panthers. Josh Allen against Miami a couple of weeks ago on Thursday night football.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Yeah. They don't cover there. Yeah. But the bills have also scored 40 points in all of their games. Like they are killing people. Outside of the jets. Sorry, 30 points. 30 points in all the games.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Because the jets like, yeah, that was a ass-whipping. But outside the jets, like the majority of those points don't come until the second half. Yeah. True. And I like old brave a putting together a 60-minute ball game, right? With eight and a half points too, like, you know, Drake Mayhe's dishing it around a little bit. They got some life out there in New England. They haven't played the toughest opponents in the first four, you're right.
Starting point is 00:51:44 It's their two and two. It's a two program there. Yeah, this will come down to some special teams play. Stop the Run, which they do, their top five in the league gets stopping the run. Right. Not very good at defending the past, but the top of the league. You got to stop the run. You've got to take care of the football.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Control the clock a little bit. Special teams playing a big factor. I love a good Vrabble Culture cover right here. Brable culture cover 2020 Tennessee Times are supposed to play the Steelers COVID hits a bunch of guys they end up saying hey
Starting point is 00:52:13 this actually counts as your bi-week now you're not playing the Steelers anymore you're going to play the Buffalo Bills on Tuesday you'll kill this all this is our bye week this is our bi-week so we're in the middle practicing and not practically and they're like hey by the way
Starting point is 00:52:24 this is this is going to be your by week NFL COVID's you guys get your workouts on your own we go in for a Saturday Mike Vribal has one meeting we're all in masks 15 feet apart whatever it was, everyone's triple-boasted. And he starts talking about Josh Allen. When he gets him to roll this way, it's a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:52:39 You get him roll the other way, it becomes an incomplete pass or five yards. Don't let him roll this way. That's not Mike Rable. That's John Stryker. And because of John Stryker, I believe the Patriots cover this game. They have an understanding that he's elite. Stretch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:56 They have an elite way of finding weaknesses in elite football players. Lamar Jackson, figuring out a way to get him run east to west 2019 to be throw outside the numbers throw outside the numbers
Starting point is 00:53:08 take care of the middle of the field have them throw outside the numbers like talent wise yeah the bills are better probably every single category category
Starting point is 00:53:16 coaching wise though being able to cover eight and a half I take Mike Vrabble every single time wait so stretch is there oh yeah oh shit
Starting point is 00:53:27 at the Rams last year the minute Vrabel the minute I heard Vrabel got the Patriot I didn't text for a while I texted stretch say congrats on the New England job. He's like what are you talking about? I'm still at the ram's like a week later John Stryker up there oh course that's his guy by the way we whoop the bills oh yeah yeah they beat their ass
Starting point is 00:53:44 they have Josh Allen like oh of course they did two picks yeah I saw from the side it was nice we were running off the field we were at the field and they were like this bass beat is brought to you by Zoom we didn't practice at all we did not practice we did a walk through on Saturday so then you know his players It wasn't sad it was a Monday. And we don't need practice. We don't need to have practice. We don't need anywhere anytime, right Braves?
Starting point is 00:54:05 We played on a Tuesday night, that game. Tuesday night, short week the next week, multiple guys in COVID. We walked into that game. I thought to myself, we're either going to win a close one or get the shit kicked out of us. And we beat the shit out of them. I had no hope in that game. We went out there, we beat their ass. Where are you going?
Starting point is 00:54:25 Well, I mean... We just talked to you in the Patriots, didn't we? No, I like the Patriots that plus eight and a half. I mean, I think you'd be a fool to bet against the bills, but divisional game, what's buddy's name? Getting Christian Gonzalez back in the past game for all pro last year with New England, running the ball with Ramandre and Trevion. Like, I think they keep it close. I think they keep it close.
Starting point is 00:54:49 I mean, I don't have much to say on it other than like I like plus eight and a half. Okay. That's it. Oh, I'm sorry. Was I supposed to, here, let me read my notes. Okay. Bill's defense allowing 164 rush yards per game. Over six yards per carry.
Starting point is 00:55:05 That's why I like Josh McDaniels feeding the ball, the Trevion and Romandre. That's just how I feel. I'm sorry. I'm an NFC guy. Tell me about the AMC. Who are you going with? I'm messing with you.
Starting point is 00:55:18 I was going to go with the Patriots, but now I'm going to mix it up. I'm going to go with the bills because you guys. I'm going to mix it up. How much do you watch a lot? I actually watch every game and then I watched the recap on it. I wanted to go Patriots. We had to talk.
Starting point is 00:55:32 I wanted to take the Patriot just because I feel like this is going to be a close game. But then hearing all, y'all take the Patriots and talk so highly of them, I don't like them now. So I'm going with the bills.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Logical. You don't have... Look over Clay's shoulder and look at your record real quick. Maybe it's okay to follow line. Like I told y'all. This could be the week where if the Eagles
Starting point is 00:55:55 and the bills, like you could... I'm going to get back on top. Look, Let me tell y'all something. Tell me something. I've been here before, you know? I've been at the bottom.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Yeah. Got it out the mud. But then I ended up at the top. You know what I'm saying? Hall of Fame nominee. This is what I do. I don't fold and defeat. I used to go to school with a pack pack full of cans.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Plus a fofo mag. Damn. Geed up from the feet up. Blue up like I grew up. Scareing his iPad to the ground. Loking and smoking and drinking until I threw up. Man. Ditching my class just to fuck you.
Starting point is 00:56:29 school up. Hey, that's just what I do. I can be at the bottom, but I'm going to get to the top. Let's go. I'm taking the bills. Do I go the bills now? Hey, we're all the other than bills? Hey, let's go. I see how you ended up at Eastern Missouri State or wherever that school was. You were happening like that. Eastern Missouri. Central Missouri. You referred to it as Bonfin, didn't you? No, no, no. That's no. I'm Compton.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Yeah, I say Compton. Billy Bompton, though. Billy Bompton. Yeah, they say Bonpton bick and back, Ben, Boo. YG. Y, G. He knows. He knows.
Starting point is 00:57:13 You think he knows? Willie knows? Willie knows. No, he knows. Now he got that shave. Billy Bompton. Yeah, see, he knows. American History X.
Starting point is 00:57:20 He bicking back being boo. All right. What else we got here? We got Chiefs at Jags. Jaggers just went into San Francisco. Got that dumb. Chief of favor, minus three. Big turnaround against the beaten down Ravens.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Total points in that game is 46.5 points. I know somebody at this table loves, loves the Jaguars. Wilcoffin loves the Jaguars. I don't love them. I say they are sneaky, sneaky, sneaky. Yeah, they're very sneaky. Contender. Contender in the AFC.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Yes, indeed. AFC? AFC right now. Oh. The whole. The AFC. Calm down the NFL talk, but the AFC right now.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Oh, I thought that was a little wild too. Yeah. I thought you said AFC South. It's like, oh, yeah, I can see that. Okay, yeah. Colts favorite. Nobody thinking about him. Leanne Cohen with that pissing vinegar?
Starting point is 00:58:14 I mean, he almost fucked up messing with Rob Salo. Rob Salon. No, just because he looked like that. We looked like that on the show. He told him I will fuck like something like I'll fucking take your life or something like that. Don't quote me on that. Anyone say that. He said the same thing that Delaney just said to us about being having his low record.
Starting point is 00:58:28 So I'll leave my school to fuck your school up. Whatever you said. I bitch my school. Yeah, it's all good. You don't do it again. Is that Kodak? I do a... Good defense.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Really good running game. I saw you turning on the tape. I say, hey, check them out. They like running left. They like running left. A lot of push. Got a top three pick Travis Hunter. He puts his face in it.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Very out there just to make plays on defense. He'd be blocking, though. Bro. Cusby blocking. He went in there a couple of times and put his face in. It was like, this guy really. really loves football. He does.
Starting point is 00:59:00 He's willing to get dirty. Yeah, he does. Spag's defense. I think the chiefs. Oh, did you get that? He's that's spagg's defense, though. Spag's defense. I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Jack's defense, 13 takeaways? Tied for first in the NFL? Yes. Very opportunistic on the defensive side. They don't necessarily get after the quarterback a little bit. They don't necessarily. They will if they have to. Travis Hunter had that catch across the middle.
Starting point is 00:59:25 A little bit of pressure in his face. Kind of likes to give the ball up as well. I like Liam Cohen Give me the Jags Dogs at home with the points Three points Everybody's gonna start riding the Chiefs right now But it ain't the Chiefs
Starting point is 00:59:38 I got Chiefs It's the Broncos George Carlis But I got a In the NFL impressions Jaguars I'm thinking Jaguars too I just think they
Starting point is 00:59:45 All around better team Than the Chiefs right now I don't mean to step on your toes But you see the Chiefs Get Xavier Worthy back I know that's scary It starts coming together Maybe we look at those first two games
Starting point is 00:59:57 And who they were playing and you lose him immediately on the first drive. They couldn't recover from that. They get, buddy, what's his name? Or she writes back in week seven. Well, he's not back. It ain't reached. They're trending.
Starting point is 01:00:10 They're trending. And now with the charges giving up the game, there's life there. Did you actually beat a very good Ravens team? I don't think that is. They do the Ravens. It doesn't matter. To them, they beat the Ravens. Who cares how they were playing?
Starting point is 01:00:24 I mean, that's a separate conversation. But they beat the Ravens. That's all that matters. And I think with the Jags, like, I like them. They look, they look clean in their jerseys up there. You like the uniform? I did. Up in Candlestick, whatever it's called nowadays.
Starting point is 01:00:37 But I felt like the 49ers lost that game more than the Jaguars won that game. True. That makes sense. That's like my Russell Westbrook quote for you right there. Like they just, they got a bunch of good players, but they don't have a great team. And I think the Chiefs have a great defense. You see them starting to click a little bit. bit more. Hopefully they start getting that confidence. And also, too, it's the Chiefs.
Starting point is 01:01:01 You know, they play in the last three Super Bowls. You play with your food at the beginning. All right, let's start tightening it up. You know, this is going to be a closer race than when they were 0 and 2. But how many times did those Jags touch Brody? Brody. Yeah, but this ain't, bro, that's the 49ers. I'm talking about the Chiefs here. I'm just saying that they, 49ers got a good old line, don't they? They've been a, unfortunately been a big question mark this year. They actually bother time coming from my dog. The 49ers got one pressure in that game, and it was when they brought six guys. When they rushed four, clean pocket.
Starting point is 01:01:34 49ers defense trying to get pressure. It's because Jay's got a good offense. You know, you're asking about 49ers O-line. How's the O-Line from a former? Who the Jags? No, the 49ers. The 49ers, because we're talking about the pass rush here. Yeah, 49ers have to get off its line.
Starting point is 01:01:46 I think Trent Williams is showing a little bit of his age right now, but for the most part, like schemes, schematics, like they do a great job of learning. But Jaguars got to them a lot, though. That's why you had to do it. comfortable they can get after the they can get after the quarterback they get after the quarterback their defense that is game 13 takeaways it's true it'll be closer a lot of games a lot of yeah yeah I think the regardless of where the ravens are at the ravens everyone still views the ravens as the ravens even though we might get to the end of this year and their record's not
Starting point is 01:02:15 going to be great because Lamar's heard six third defensive starters but the chiefs I think it was the first time that maybe doubt was actually creeping into that locker room like Travis Kelsey is old hey we don't have rice back is Xavier were they going to fix all these things for me. I think seeing the success, having the X plays, getting the run game going a little bit, seeing Patchman's dough for four touchdowns, like, they walk by in the locker room, be like, that's right. Yeah. I forgot. Yeah, that's our bad forever questioning that situation. Jags are a better team than I thought before I put the film on against the 49ers. I watched that film. I was like, Cohen's got guys running. We talked about Travis Hunter, the way he's willing to put
Starting point is 01:02:49 his face in the blocks. They still have some drop issues. But like, they are as a whole a much better football team but I love the chiefs minus three in this being I love them I think they they figured out any doubt they had is now gone regardless of the caliber of team they played with the logo that they had chiefs going to Jacksonville they better be ready get those IVs popping yeah it's gonna be hot it's gonna be fucking hot that's one thing not a difficult place to play it's not but when that heat start you know how it is that IV we all up in there you'd like to play this game in the first week of October but in December you're just You go to Jackson in December, you started to get used to the cold.
Starting point is 01:03:27 You're right. You're all right. You're like, my God. Yeah, you're right. That's death. You're right. That is death. That is just a crazy.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Chiefs. Jags. Jigs. Chiefs. I like what we said. I thought you said Jags, B. No, I said Chiefs. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:03:42 I think, I think Jags are better than what I thought at the beginning of you. How many times you see the Jags get at the Brody? A lot. Thus, they will win. All right. True Classic Game of the Week every Sunday's got games, but only one fits just right. All right, this True Classic game of the week is brought to you by True Classic. We got the new curved Pima shirts that they have sent the boys.
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Starting point is 01:04:22 Look good, feel good, play good. Let's get to the game of the week. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
Starting point is 01:04:42 But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.
Starting point is 01:05:05 We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defining the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game.
Starting point is 01:05:39 His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash will get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He run up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it.
Starting point is 01:06:19 it out real quick. Oh, yeah. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, actress, mother, lover, and a Gen X woman walking through life one hot flash and hormonal crying jag at a time. You ladies know what I mean.
Starting point is 01:06:37 I'll bet you a perimenapausal chin here you do. So let's talk about it. Join me on my new podcast. How Hard Can It Be with Deanna Maria Riva, where I call on my Gen X squads from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate midlife's most fantastic BS. All of a sudden, I'd had hanginess happening on my own. I was like, what the hell is that? I was married when I had her, so I didn't even consider how empty that nest was going to be.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Mood swings, night sweats, fupas, sex drive. Wait, what sex? Dating at 45. How can it be getting naked at 50 with the new guy? That one's kind of hard. Well, that's lighting. They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to. try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears or tears of laughter, and dive into it unfiltered and
Starting point is 01:07:21 unbothered and ask, how hard can it be? I cannot believe I'm about to say this out loud in public. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva as part of my Cultura podcast network available on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the true classic game of the week. Tampa Bay Buccaneers are in Seattle. They're at Seattle. Baker Mayfield versus Sam McDonald both drafted in 2018, number one and number three pick. Seahawks favored by three points. The total points in that game is 44 and a half. Love the Moxie by the Bucks.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Love Baker Mayfield. He doesn't matter how hurt he is. He's running around. He's got the attitude. He's got the fucking confidence. He does. Something about the school of Kevin O'Connell, though, and backup quarterbacks going and dicing him up.
Starting point is 01:08:09 I got the opportunity to watch Sam Donald versus the Cardinals on Thursday. NFL ball last week and Sam is putting the ball in the perfect spot every single time their defense is stingy buddy I like the Seahawks here I like the Seahawks I like that it's in the north northwest yeah nobody really loud obnoxious 12 man like it's gonna be a different game bucky Irving is he playing I don't know he's got an auntie he's got a rib he's out he was getting it going from a run game what time is this game what is this I don't think it matters bro The time is his game. They wake up in the Pacific Northwest.
Starting point is 01:08:45 It's Sunday. Three o'clock. Three o'clock. Oh, I think that plays to the buck's favor. I like the bucks. Why? Because Seattle, whoever sponsors it now, that stadium gets loud for those prime time games. I think if they can, you know.
Starting point is 01:09:02 You're saying middle afternoon games. It's by the clock in Florida. That has nothing to do with their body clock. I'm not worried about that. Oh, okay. You said it's a perfect game. I'm just talking about, you know, environment and atmosphere. I like the bucks.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Even with all the injuries, Godwin wasn't playing out 100%. Mike Evans out. Now, Bucky looks like he's out. I just love the moxie of their team. I love the way Baker's playing right now. He gives him a chance every time he takes the field. There's just something about this team that
Starting point is 01:09:31 I like. Now, listen, I mean, everything you said about the Seahawks, like Sam Darnold is playing elite right now. Their defense looks good. The culture's coming together. I just saw one of them spiders you got. I thought it was a real one on the ground. Spooky season. It is.
Starting point is 01:09:43 It is. Jackson Smith and Jigba. Like, I have every reason not to think that the Bucks, or excuse me, for, you know, Seattle to win. But I don't know. There's just something about the Bucks. I'm just feeling. I'm just feeling it. This is more of a gut pick than anything else.
Starting point is 01:09:57 It's just a gut pick on this. I don't think it's a bad one. I'm going with Seattle here. I am a big fan of how that offense operates. Their defense is playing very salty. The only thing that scares me is you're going to, this is going to, this could be a situation where it's like, this could be a field goal game and Baker Mayfield's got the ball on his hands on the last drive.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Yeah, I mean, I mean, history will say that they'll handle that. Dude, Seahawks' defense, though, second most interceptions. Yeah. They have seven. Yep. They also are the sixth in the NFL at 12 sacks. They've got three per game right now. I love Charbonnet being off injury because when I'm watching the Cardinals game, like,
Starting point is 01:10:34 Kenneth Walker loves to just randomly run backwards. I don't know. It's like, have we not gotten, can we get? go back to Pop Warner rules, like north and south, please. Like hit it downhill. Oh, there's not a hole there. Run into the back of your offensive linemen and go forward. Offence alignment for the most part, has that a great job. Great, I think it's Zabel, Grable, Zabel? Zabel? Rookie. He's doing a great, I think he's at the least amount of pressures of any offensive lineman. Like their offensive line is playing really well. Sam Donald, man, I love the resurrection of his career. I think Charbonnet, which will lead me into,
Starting point is 01:11:09 I didn't mind about the boys parley. By the way, Zach Sharpernay, anytime touchdown. Love it at two last week. Yeah. They put that man in every time. And they take one away? Or did he still up two? I think he's still up too.
Starting point is 01:11:19 I like Seattle too because you look at who the Bucks have played at Falcons. That was week one. Then you had the Texans. They've been struggling offensively. Jets. They beat the Jets. Justin Fields or Tyra-Roeh Taylor, whoever their quarterback was.
Starting point is 01:11:31 It doesn't even matter. And then Eagles as well, especially with Jail and Hertz. Like, this is going to be the best downfield attack that they face from a passing defensive standpoint. I do like the way Sammy D. Strow on the ball. He keeps it eye and tight. He keeps like that goes through his progressions.
Starting point is 01:11:45 And he's got a very accurate deep ball. Yeah. So I think this will be like a much harder task for the Tampa Bay defense. I agree. Yeah. With Irving being out too, it's like that hurts their run game.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Godwin being back is big for them. The 10, what, 10 targets last week? Yeah. Mecca, he's a stud too. He is a stud too. Yeah. But you gotta establish a run game, man. You gotta have a run game,
Starting point is 01:12:08 especially when you're going away. What are you hack when you're an away game a defense and a run game if you're lacking the run game give you the seahawes especially at the 12th man you can't be you can't hear that's it'd be tough out there for receivers they don't have 11 huh it's only a three o'clock game so it only be he's saying 12th man'll be a non-factor you got a crazy Seattle is well that's because you were divisional rival this is Tampa coming into town we played them in 2020 no one no there's nothing between the tight end and sea that shit is fucking it was like this
Starting point is 01:12:35 round time yeah it was a 330 game yeah and we're shaking this is a All my notes say the Chicago's going to win. Like, but. Share some of your notes. Hey, hey, Sam Darno. Booming right now. Last two years, most wins by a quarterback, tied with Mahomes for most game winning drives. Hey, you talk about that defense, limited all four opponents to 20 points or less.
Starting point is 01:12:56 We already talked about sacks, interceptions, interceptions. So what are you going with us then? Oh, he just wanted to hear some of them notes. I'm just saying, like, to me, everything I write here, I'm like, yeah, I like, I like the Seahawks, But I just, I'm just going to go my gut play. No, we ain't mad at you. I don't know, you seem a little aggressive today. No, no, no, I'm just checking, man, you know.
Starting point is 01:13:19 I think Delaney's finding out where you guys are as friends. This is what Delaney does. No. We were talking land management before the show started. What you think about that hitting Brody? I got J-Lerickin right now. Just so you know, like you're hitting a new level of Delany Walker friendship.
Starting point is 01:13:34 I'm actually happy for you guys right now. This is big, huh? Oh yeah, you know me. I do. That's what I'm telling you. Hey, that's beautiful. Put that on the thumbnail. All right, bet the boys parlay.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Oh, yes. Last two weeks, Delaney's had the same pick. So? What are we doing? The same pick. Delaney, who you got? Jonathan Deter. Does the same pick.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Did it hit last week? Hey, he scored a touchdown, and they called it back over some. Yeah, that's a bad hole. A ball. Why don't we discuss in that game? Clump. That was crazy.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Club one to make sure we got that type. Beautiful run. Beautiful run for like 60 yards. I had a touch. The same guy's held? Was the same one who held that ball out? I know. And dropped it.
Starting point is 01:14:26 I saw that in real time. I was sick for him. I'm like you did. The way he tried jumping on everything to and had it. It was like the way. The guilt on his face. Yeah. That body language, please God.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Yeah. Please put up the touchdown. Look like Chad Powers. Yeah. This is your third. Did he score, did Jonathan Taylor score two weeks? Yes. So you're going three for three?
Starting point is 01:14:46 Yeah. If it's working. He always hit. He didn't hit last year. I know. It's because he got called. He did. He did.
Starting point is 01:14:54 But there was a penalty. Tell the end. Yeah. Come on. I wasn't right. I'm going to run it back, though. No doubt. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:01 I'm like, unless the Colts are in a buy. I'm assuming we're going to run up back again next to you. Oh, they may be on the buy. Give me, a Marian Hampton. Chargers. touchdown on the ground. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:15:10 You're taking the game? I'm taking commanders. Doesn't mean they're going to shut them out. That's true. Hey, I'm running the ball. I'm running it back. I have to run the ball. I'm running it back as well with Amon Ra.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Yeah. I was two for two. Then I went to my boy Jordan Mason, didn't show up, but you know who did? Arm and Ra were two more scores. So I'm going back to my former Trojan right here. Amin Ra against a Cincinnati defense. This should be. I mean, we must.
Starting point is 01:15:34 What's two touchdowns? They don't give it to us. Don't know. Don't do that. Put him twice on here. You want two D-plus. Can I tell you something about on and wrong, might change your mind?
Starting point is 01:15:44 We, friend at the show, we went to the training camp tour. He, USC was playing Michigan. He talked a lot of shit. I talked a lot of shit. The agreement was, it was a bet if Michigan wins, he comes back on the show
Starting point is 01:15:55 during the season. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And if USC wins. You go on his show. I go on his show. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:03 He do have a show. No, I think it was flipped. I don't know. Regardless, I'm losing my train of thought. Amman Ross St. Brown lost a bet, didn't fall through this bet. Is that the kind of guy who did it? He didn't. He didn't fall through.
Starting point is 01:16:15 He was busy training to be a dog. Don't make bets you can't keep them. Go to his head. How is he training? My man be on his own pod during the season. Right. He can't just come on. Right.
Starting point is 01:16:24 You can't do a podcast and play. Can't be a dog because I got nine years right here. Ten? Yeah, we'll say ten. Ten? Ten. Eleven? Fuck yeah, ten.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Hell yeah, fuck yeah. Nine. Nine. Nine. How many years you got to be honest. Taylor, who's your anytime touchdown guy? Right now we got Johnson Taylor, Hampton, Almond Ross, St. Brown. Sharbonnet.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Mm-hmm. I think Sharbonnet. And honestly, I'd love to take credit for this pick, but who's been crushing anytime touchdowns for us at the bus? Jamie Clump. Oh, y'all. I got here this morning, get my little prep work in. They go, hey, we still need this, this and this for you for the shows today. And I go, all right, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Club, who we're taking anytime touchdown? I said, Charbonnet. So if we get it, put it on my record. If we don't, that was Clump. But my list be crazy, though. My list be crazy that I send him. He just knowing that who to pick for me, but my list be crazy. Will give me Sharpenet.
Starting point is 01:17:14 I gave me Sharpenet. Yeah. Will give me. Hey, I tell you what, we got a CTE episode going on with me right now. And again, the thought process was, if you watch that Thursday night game, Seattle Cardinals, anytime they got near the goal line, Sharpenet was going to. Charmeney got in. Get a walker would do all the work getting down there.
Starting point is 01:17:28 They put Sharpenang. Yeah, because he said it. He's like, I see why they take a cannonball. He bounces to the right every time. It was on the two-yard line. He bounced it to the right. You're inside the 10, you can't risk going backwards. We lost like your 8 and 9 yards.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Like just running backwards. Just go straight. It's like this ain't high school football. Like guys can tackle here. I mean, dude. That's also a Michigan State brain. Oh, he did go to Michigan. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Better get that ass beat this week too, am I right? Yeah, buddy. All right. Great show. Clay, any party thoughts? Great show. Let's win them all. Let's win them all.
Starting point is 01:18:03 We can't all win them all. Live show. No. Watch party. Brooklyn Bowl. Brooklyn Bowl. You're going to be there? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:12 You're coming. Sunday afternoon. I'm a shut up. Brooklyn Bowl. No, I ain't taking nobody place. I'm just going to come and just be a part of the boys. Be part of the boys. Be part of the vibes.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Drink and a lot of drinking for me. Let's lose together. Hey, you coming? Mikolo Volcher. What are we doing? You come to watch party? Mickelotra. You already know.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Brooklyn Bowl Sunday. Yeah, come hang out. Downtown, B. Oh, I got a flag football playoffs this weekend. Oh, shit. Playoffs. Show's not over. Playoffs.
Starting point is 01:18:38 We got semifinals on Saturday. If we win, when we win that game, we move on to the championship game 3 o'clock. We've been playing this team for a few years now. We beat them in the championship last year. We opened up the year with them. We scored to make it a 2019 game. We were down by one point. Coach went for two, came up short.
Starting point is 01:18:58 That's okay. We saw them again at midseason. We had a pick six to seal the game. So we're tie one and one, hopefully heading to this championship game. But it's the tight every single time. We got a game. We got a weekend coming up. What times this game?
Starting point is 01:19:10 It's Saturday morning and Sunday at 3 p.m. It's going to affect some of my picks for next week, but we've got to focus on what's in front of me. Do we go to that season record? Do we miss the Brooklyn Bowl and go to that game instead, Clump? It probably be more entertaining than the team. There is much be more entertaining. Hey, seven and one versus six in one. They're lost to us or lost to them.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Wow. Yeah. But you have to take care of Saturday. We got to take care of Saturday. I don't want to look too. far ahead. What's the record of the team Saturday? Well, they have to play before us to see who plays us. So hopefully you're a little tired, you know, at this age. They get a little lazy. Right, right. And we just show up just, you know, ready to ask, right? Yeah, belt to ass.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Hey, one day I may show up and just, you know, let all the kids take pictures. I know they, they think you to coach so they don't know who you are and stuff. Yeah. So, you know, don't see all your tattoos and be like, yeah, he must be like a dog. Yeah, they want me to show. You know, I had to put up for the kids and let them take pictures. Where you're a grill, though. Yeah. They're a grill. Oh, definitely. Oh, yeah, with the kids.
Starting point is 01:20:12 The one you wore the one. No, no, not that one. They'll start making fun of you when you start talking. What's wrong with this guy? They're going to be like, I want a grill. After they say, I want a grill. You're saying, I want one of those. No, they're doing that.
Starting point is 01:20:25 Hey, hey, you see these doctors? You see these booze, this collared shirt? We keep it tight, all right? The Matthew's feeling to keep it tight. Hell yeah. Every time kids see the grill. They'd be like, man, I want one of those. I'll get you one.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Do you? I might show up. It depends. It depends. There was the wildest comment. Great show. Great show. Subscribe.
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