Bussin' With The Boys - Will Compton & Taylor Lewan React To The NFL Draft, Ken Roczen Speaks On His Near Career Ending Injury & How To Grow The Sport Of Supercross

Episode Date: May 2, 2023

Recorded: April 28th 2023 | In this weeks episode, the boys are back for the intro. They recap the entire draft and give their opinions on the Titans draft specifically. They talk about their roles in the Barstool Draft show. They then get into this past weekend and recap their time at Supercross and how it was getting into a different sport. Following the intro, Taylor sits down with Suzuki Supercross rider, Ken Roczen. Roczen talks about he got his start riding motorcycles and what it was like moving from Germany to the US to take his riding to the next level. He gets into his mindset when it comes to preparing emotionally and physically for each race. Finally he dives into his almost career ending injury. Talks about all the surgeries and battles that he faced coming back from the injury. There's even a little David Goggins in there. The boys are diving into a new sport with this interview, let us know your thoughts. 0:00 Intro :20 Taylor announce's he is in a lawsuit 6:57 Draft recap 19:55 Titans draft recap 34:37 Barstool draft show recap 44:57 Supercross recap 58:47 Deion Sanders & Colorado predictions 1:05:05 Shoutout no free shoutout 1:19:22 KEN ROCZEN INTERVIEW STARTS 1:19:35 Taylor and Ken talking about how they fell in love with dirt bikes 1:21:06 Moving from Germany to the US and meeting Ricky Carmichael 1:27:10 Racing vs childhood friends 1:30:42 How to do strength and conditioning for supercross 1:39:22 The process of changing bike as you get older 1:43:45 The small details that he breaks down at each race 1:49:00 Gruesome Arm Injury That Almost ended his career 1:57:02 What's next 2:01:43 How does it feel to be a fan favorite? 2:05:23 Advice he has for the younger generation of Supercross riders SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS ------------------------ Chevy: Head over to https://barstool.link/ChevyBarstool to learn more Black Tux: Go to https://barstool.link/BlackTuxBWTB and use code bussin, you’ll save $20 off your order. MoreLabs: Go to https://morelabs.com and use code BOYS for 25% off your first order of Morning Recovery. Georgia Boots: Use code BUSSIN for 20% Off at https://barstool.link/GeorgiaBoot Duke Cannon: Use code BUSSIN10 at https://barstool.link/DukeCannonBSS for 10% off your entire order Barstool Store: Shop now at https://store.barstoolsports.comFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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but there's a couple new handsome faces. My boy, Chris Brown, in the blue hat backwards, and his buddy Summers. Correct to my own, Chris and saying Summers. Chris Summers. Chris Summers. So two Chris's,

double the handsome for the back of the bus. Absolutely outstanding boys. How do we feel being here on this bus? There's a microphone right there. How do we feel? Oh, we're on camera too. Yeah.

It's like really efficient. Listen. Now, for those you don't know, both these guys played hockey, you know how hockey players do. Interviews, very dry, very, just get to the point. Not a whole lot of personality. This is not that place. I know my boys went out last night,

had a little bit of hair of that dog this morning. How are we feeling? Felt better, I think. Oh, this is my first time, if you guys couldn't tell. I felt better, but happy to be here. Thank you for the self-invite that I invited myself to the bus. I appreciate that. You're very welcome.

Yeah, I'm happy to be here. Yeah, I haven't seen you in a while, though. That's been, we talked about that. Yeah, it's been a minute. When's the last time we did see each other? I hope it's not your wedding. No, no, no, no, no, no. I was supposed to see you at a game.

You were supposed to play. Then you got hurt. We're not going to talk about it. We already talked about that. We're not going to talk about it. We're high vibes now. But yeah, I think that was the last time I saw you. It could have been your wedding, which is a shame.

That's six years ago, Chris. Well, do the math, 365 days times six. I think it's been... I think it's been a lot of days. Thank God we don't do math in this podcast. No, we don't. We don't know... A thousand days, yeah?

Yeah. What about what was after... No, no, no, no. I saw you your bachelor party, too, which was a year later. No. What? I don't think so. Huh?

No. I don't you've been married for. Great question. Seven years. When's the day? This would be seven years. July 15th. I've got them.

I got to buy three months. Yeah. So you're assuming the doctor. But it's been a long time. Yeah. It's been a real long time. Yeah. All right.

Okay. You've dropped a lot of weight since then. Yeah. But yeah, you look good. Thanks, man. Well, you look great. Thank you, man. You look good, but you look great.

Thank you. Yeah. Is it the smile? Well, I would say so, but it's hard to tell now that somebody copied you with that smile. I can see where this is going. Yeah. Will, how are we doing, buddy?

How's life? I'm still digesting the announcement. So you're suing the doctor that did your knee? Yeah, the individuals involved my knee and the entity. It'd be very specific. I need names and I'll take care of it. Well, the complaint has been filed so anyone who wants to go see it can look it up and go find it. Give me a name.

I'll hand it. I'll tell you later. You got to cut that there. You got to plead that. But yeah, dude. I never thought in my life I'd be a guy that sued somebody. You know how badly I want to ask you about this, right? Go ahead. Ask me one question. Ask me whatever you want.

What do you think they did wrong? You know, I think we need to go in farther into this court case, this case before I can really talk any further about it. I don't think my lawyers would allow me to say at this time. What do you think about the doctor as a person? When I met him, I loved them. What about now? my emotion towards him is one of those deals

where it's just like, I'm not angry. I'm just really, really, you know, I'm sad. Sad. Yeah. Could you say you're disappointed? Yeah. Yeah, I am disappointed. We'll wait.

Maybe Thursday. Maybe Thursday. You know what? This Thursday, I'll answer more questions. I know you wanted me to like see if I could PR you a little bit and see if you just handle yourself. He kind of did. I don't embody me a little.

little bit. Go ahead. And I was like, okay, what question is going to have? Yeah, I saw that little brain working your mouth got wheel open. That's nuts though, dude. Yeah,

it's a wild deal. Hopefully it all gets just figured out and it's all done. I can speak about it more because I like people to know what's going on in my career. I love it. There it is.

Well, what else is going on, boys? We had, the draft happened. The draft happened. Now, we got a couple of Titans fans in here. I like to hear from Garrett and Jack

how they feel the Tennessee Titans did in this draft. I got a question first. Okay. And Jack, can we also pull up? Is it not up? No. Is it the dot?

We got to get a better... Technical difficulties. Maybe it's time after... It's the adversity you work with on the bus place. Time after three, four years we can get a better fucking monitor than this one. Maybe. My question was going to be, what was it like watching the draft not being a part of a team the first year? That's a good question.

Not even about the Titans. He flipped it. To be honest with you, there was so much going on at Barstool that I was wearing so hats that I chose to wear. Like, I wasn't really even supposed to do anything. And then I decided halfway through I was to sit next to Frank and feed him hot dogs after every single choice. I packed all my game jerseys from all the teams I've been on. I got this a little. So I literally had to run behind the set, put a jersey on, run back. Dude, here's how I feel about that first round thing. Peter Skoronski. I think this is his time. I think I hope to God he has three times

the career I did. I really do because my relationship with the tie-ins is outstanding. Obviously, I got cut, but, like, the best thing to do when you enter a relationship is leave it better than the way you found it. And I was able to do that. The last couple of years didn't go the way I wanted it to individually, but at the same time, I, like, truly want the best for that

franchise. And I hope he's the answer at left tackle. I mean, he might play guard, he might play tackle. Who knows where he's going to go, but I know he's rocking those sevens. He DM me and asked me for permission to wear the sevens. But to go back to your question. Pay homage, you got to respect. Yeah, it was just really cool. I thought to myself, brother, you've got to ask me for nothing.

Like, go take what's yours. We need to get him on the bus. Yeah, yeah. I talked to, he's represented by Pat Collins. Yeah. That should be. Him and Will Levis are both represented by Pat Collins. Yeah.

So I thought we could have them both on the same time. We need to get the boys on the bus. Yeah, get them on the bus. But I'm extremely excited and happy for him. As far as like my emotion during it, when that 11 pick did happen, it was like, I wouldn't sad. it was kind of like a tip of the cap like I'm this is the end of that chapter and I'm I'm just I'm proud of what I was able to accomplish

kind of a weird coincidence too yeah 11th overall pick 77 87 8 10 77 left tackle left tackle it's a it's a it's a cool contrast and I hope that tackles for the for the titans and part of the houston oilers so for me it's like I hope that continues so in 40 years it's like man they've had four tackle in 40 years yeah it's almost like uh the green bear backer Brett Farvin, Aaron Rogers. Yeah. Something like that. I mean, much more valuable positions. Yeah.

Much more valuable. Without the Super Bowls. But yeah. Yeah. That's true. I can, you need to go see with Chris. If you got something going on today.

Got too much attention on me or something like that. But it was cool, man. And I was, I was very happy. I wanted them to get him. Him or Paris Johnson Jr. Other two picks I wanted that. You got to be fired up for the boy,

Paris Johnson. Dude, six overall play. And dude, shout out the Cardinals. Let's give him a clap. Shout out the Cardinals. three trading back, letting whatever happened, then trading back up to get their guy. They played some chess, them along with the Houston Texans. Before we move on to the Texas, too, like Paris,

we were all in a group chat and Paris was saying like he wants to go three overall. We didn't know how healthy that was of like a guess, but he seemed to want to go to Arizona and probably when they traded out, they traded back, and then back up to six. And when they got him, you can see that emotion in the, in the green room that he had to do was fired the fuck up that he went to the team, that he was sort of guessing like, this is where I'm probably going to go. He did say Cardinals at three. It was Cardinals at six. It's all good.

Yeah, that's awesome. Dude, and he, he's just a sweet boy. He is a, he's just a sweet, sweet boy, meeting him, being around him. He came to the live show when we're in Columbus. The guy is, he's just a good fucking dude. He'll randomly hit me and Will up. He just be like, hey, what's up, boys? Did he randomly, did he do what we asked?

Did he find out if he shot it out of us out? He said he shouted us out. On that interview right after the stage, right after the podium? Yeah. I think, no, I don't know about that. it was so hard to tell because the barstle thing. No, we were on the barstle thing. There was no volume.

Yeah. Now, Taylor was talking about Houston. Holy fucking murdered the draft. They literally did draft day. They did the movie draft day. Incredible. Yeah. Will Anderson Jr.

C.J. Stroud. Boom. Not in that order. C.J. Stroud at two. You know it messed up a lot of things. I think a lot of teams were eye in training in three Titans. Yeah. That's what we both thought.

Yeah. When those rumors started happening. a couple hours before. Because when they pick C.J. Stroud, you're like, Taylor. I looked at me like I had something to do with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was over there with hot dogs in hand. Yeah.

Just trying to feed Frank the tank. Yeah. Just trying to feed his ass. But yeah, dude, fuck. And you always want a little bit of chaos during the draft. Like, that's what we tune in for. And like, because the Texans aren't my team, it was cool to see. It was cool to fucking watch them pick it too.

And you're like, all right, they got the quarterback. What's going to happen next? And all of a sudden they do it again. They were nowhere near. That was not really. Rumored what's over. I think that one came out of left field. They really got, they got both their guys.

Trading up to three. Everybody was talking about that three spot. Like who's going to trade up? Cardinals are willing to deal, willing to deal the number three overall pick. And you need some water bomb? I do. I got that thing that I found out the reason why I got sick.

Will, do you want to tell them why I got sick? No. Do you want to? But yeah, yeah, that Cardinals pick was up in the year. They were open about it. And then everybody's kind of wondering who's going to jump up the three. I was hoping that the Titans would jump up the three. And take who?

See, J. Stroud, or Anthony? Richardson. Yeah, but... Because I didn't think Houston was going to take C.J. Stroud. When Houston took C.J. Stroud at number two, I was like, oh, fuck.

I didn't see this coming at all. Right. Because I thought he's reped by the same agent as Deshawn Watson, and I was out there saying, like, there ain't no way that Texas are going to deal with C.J. Stroud when they have that close relationship

with Deshaun Watson. Yeah. And then when they picked him at two, I was like, fuck, what's going to happen now? I'm pretty sure a lot of teams thought Stroud might be there at three. I wonder what teams now are out being like, hey, how are we going to pivot here?

and then seeing the Cardinals trade back for Houston straight up. It's like, what the fuck is happening? There's a while. And they take Will Anderson Jr., which has got to fire head coach, DeNico Ryan's up. Because when you're a head coach and a new head coach, it's not like you're sitting here thinking like, oh, we need that first overall quarterback.

You're wanting a fucking defensive guy. You want that defensive guy, that cornerstone, that corner piece. You want that next day, J.J. Y. Because the chances that DeNico Ryan's going to sit there and coach Caesar Stroud isn't high. So he's excited about I want to build whatever my reputation is going to be around a defensive player. player. So they get Stroud and then they get Will Anderson Jr.

The best defensive player in the draft. Like hats off to the Houston, Texas. Then Cardinals trade back. Who picks a three? Texans. Oh, yeah, Texas is my fault. Who picked it for? The Colts.

So the Colts in the AFC South, they get a quarterback, Anthony Richardson. Now if these boys pan out, there's going to be nothing but killers in the AFC South. You got Justin Lawrence. Yep. You got C.J. Stroud and Anthony Richardson. My question, too. Hey, there's one more in there. Yeah, at this moment in time, my question of Titans faithful is what was everybody thinking at that moment?

Yeah. It's Trevor Lawrence. I hate that I have to correct. Yeah, I heard that too. I didn't know what to say. You know I'm fucking stupid. We know I'm stupid. You're not stupid, dude.

You just get miscombobulated sometimes. You're not dumb. Well, don't talk to yourself like that, man. Positive vibes. Yeah. Keep the positive fucking vibes. What were you guys thinking? Well, I got another kind of question.

and it was my thought is if the tight after seeing Strah go two and then the Titans don't go to three does that mean that the Titans were not even interested in Anthony Richardson Richardson? So three

but you do you don't know listen to this here's where I think and this is me just playing GM Texans picked two Houston pick three there probably was his debate going back and forth you only got ten minutes to do it

It seems like and the Texans had more drafting what's that which is all correct, right? You're right. That's facts. That's not being redundant, Mitch. That's fucking using my words correctly. There's probably, there's probably some sort of back and forth of who's going to do what, right? And then Houston Texans had more draft capital than the Titans, so they end up winning that battle. Now there's four to get Anthony Richardson. Four is the Indianapolis Colts. The Colts are not going to trade a high draft pick to somebody that's

in their division. It's not going to happen. Well, that's what I'm saying. That's a good thought the three for the three spot. Is that like, was there hesitation now that the Titans didn't go to three because Stroud was gone? So like that's kind of my question. Knowing that, should we give up for Anthony Richardson?

Yeah. I think that goes back to what I said about draft capital. I think the Cardinal, I'm... Maybe they tried. Let's say they both went in and the Titans called. Like, hey, let us get out there in Houston in Houston call. Like Houston's going to win that battle because they have more ammo.

Yeah. And Arizona just didn't call back. Yeah. Well, yeah, we'll get right back. That call from Houston said, yep, you got it. Done. You've absolutely got it. And then,

traded back up to six, dude. What a fucking deal. Seattle, playing as day. Just fucking did with that Denver. But I love that Devon Witherspoon pit. That Devon Witherspoon pick. That's a dude that plays fucking physical as a corner. Dude, and it's crazy that Illinois has these players. It's definitely they always have like a first round draft pick somewhere.

They always have something somewhere. When we were in college, it was like they had, who was the guy that fucking put me in a blender for Houston? Huh? Oh, you're talking about. No, no, no, you're talking about. Whitney Mercilis. Whitney Mercilis, there was like a Buchanan guy that went to the Patriots also first round draft.

They had a D-Tackle that went first round. This is all like when we were in college. Right. Out there, Dustin, dude. So, Illinois, like, why can't they get their shit together? Right. The campaign sucks. They always had a little running back, too.

Weirdly had like a decent running back. Yeah. And they can't win games. How many games did Illinois win last year? Jack? They won enough. I think they were a tough team now. We were riding Illinois, like, the whole season on bet the bus.

Yeah. You think so? Fighting Alignay. Didn't they fire their head coach? No. He's a staple, yeah. It's a Bielma. Yeah.

Rebielma. He's building that culture off the run game and defense. And Witherspoon, he will knock your dick in the dirt. He's the type of corner. He's the type of corner that you won on your team. I think he's a stud. But look, boys were 8 and 5. What we talk about now?

I don't know. They're moving. They're making moves. They almost run the Bay 10 championship. We scroll down a little bit. There they are. Nebraska. Come on, don't just just just.

my boys, you know we got a new shit. There they are, dude. Three and five. You know we got a new regime right now. Yeah, new regime and a whole lot of room for improvement. Which we are improving. You saw Casey Thompson. He's not winning the job coming out of spring game or coming out of spring ball.

He's transferring. He entered the transfer portal. Casey Thompson did. Is that the kid we interviewed? Yeah. He's transferring again? Yeah, he's transferred because he's not going to win the job. That QB that transferred up.

That's fucking tough, dude. That quarterback that transferred up from Georgia Tech. Apparently he's playing some good ball out there. from Georgia Tech? Yeah. Justin Sims? Yeah. Hey, he's a beast.

Yeah, he's playing some. He's a beast like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's apparently playing some good ball. So he, uh, coach, uh, Coach Ruel had a conversation with Casey's, you know, just had to have like a heart to heart about what the opportunity's going to look like. Yeah, what do what Casey's, uh, opportunities are going to look like? You transfer because he didn't win a job, right?

So he left. Uh, yeah, they were going to compete in fall camp. I want to say Casey was, uh, was, uh, rehabbing a shoulder. Where he was, where he was. was before Nebraska. Texas. He was at Texas. He did not sniff the starting roll there.

Well, he sniffed it, but he got, uh, he lost out on the job going into that. Yeah, he was the dude. In the middle of the year, right? He was the dude until half time of the Oklahoma game. And then that's when Caleb Williams became Caleb Williams. That's right. Is that right? And then he leaves.

No, that's not right. Caleb Williams is Oklahoma. Yeah, that's Oklahoma. You're talking about Spencer Radler. Spencer Radler. I know what you're talking about. He got hurt, right? Pretty sure he...

Yeah. Right. Right, right, right. You at Nebraska and then you don't... You want to get in the transfer portal. I'm not saying anything against Nebraska. It's a second transfer. Like, where's you going to go next?

I think what sucks for him, to play devil's advocate, I think what sucks for him is I think he was recovering from a shoulder injury. You get a whole new coaching staff that comes in. They got their guy in who's a Justin Sims, who came up from Georgia Tech. Apparently, he's a little bit of a baller. So coach had to just let him know, like, hey, it's going to be a competition. And he came out.

Casey probably just didn't like hearing that it was going to be competitive and he was going to start off as the number two. They probably just jumped in that portal because you got one more year to make it shake, brother. Make it shake. Make it shake. Man. We'll see what happens.

Yeah, we'll see what happens. Shout out Illinois, dude, for really bringing it in, bringing it home. Yeah, bring up that draft, bring up that first round again. Hey, but the boys, how do we feel about Will Levis? Let's ask the, this is where you guys need to answer. We need the Titans fans, Jack McPherson, Gary Hargis. Now, something to think about Jack McPherson, dude, his Twitter got hacked after the 11th overall pick for the Tennessee Titans.

He said, thank God it wasn't Will Levis. You didn't say that. No, it was the first round. Someone got access to my Twitter. They're tweeting a lot of Will Levis slander. I don't know who it is to his day. But yeah, you know, I'm kind of indifferent on the situation. We'll just kind of have to see.

What is? I think there's promise in them, but I've got a few friends online. I'm not going to say their name specifically. But they're like hell-bent that he's going to be winning us championships. And look, I want us to win championships. But I'm also going to be realistic. like Will Levis is most likely not going to be that guy. And if he is, I will retract my statement,

eat my words, and shake his hand. Because I hope that he's going to be the guy for us. But now we have three fucking quarterbacks on our roster. We're spending 30 million plus with no guarantees on any of them. We drafted another running back. I'm like very up in arms a little bit about our draft. I love Geronski. I think he's going to be a great pick for us.

I wanted Paris. obviously he fell sooner. His draft stock was way too high to drop to 11. But I just feel like we're filling gaps where we didn't need to fill them. And like we need to figure out these problems that we have that are existent in terms of our starting quarterbacks, where we're going to go in terms of our running backs. If Derek's going to still be there, we've got to fill out our line.

Skoransky's obviously a great start. But again, I'm not a draft like analyst guy. So is Will Levis? I do love this conversation. You're speaking as a fan, that's beautiful. Speak your truth, Jack. I think I'm a lot more happy. Can I just, can I interrupt?

Yeah, the only thing you were talking. Hey, I'm so glad you went in that because he was unraveled. Well, I want him to continue to talk, but you're like, you know, we got these problems at running back. Number one, I think they took a kid third round. Yeah, from Tulane. Yeah, who seems to be a beast. They're going to have Derek. So let's just say running back is fine.

Oh, line. Yeah, they have holes. I think they did a good job addressing it by drafting it. drafting Peter Skoronsky, who seems like a stud out of Northwestern. Taylor, like Taylor, that's your favorite. That was your favorite tackle going. He's the most well-rounded office alignment in the entire draft. A lot of people are saying, like, this is going to be a guy that coaches love to have because

as far as technique, knowing how to do it and all that shit, he's very polished. All he needs to do is learn the playbook. He's going to hit the ground running. Seems like a good pick. Seems like he's going to pick up the playbook being a Northwestern guy. Now, but then you make it seem like they address those problems. Are you talking about on the. have side skill positions?

No, I just said I love the Skoronsky pick. He loves the Scoronsky pick. I was really hoping we were going to take some kind of line, man. I did not want some like big time player, a C.J. Stroud first pick. We have so many holes in our offensive line right now that we have to address that. And I love that. I wish we could have gotten Paris just from a personal tie. But I think Skoronsky could be the long term.

What don't you like about Levis? Everything. Dude, he was. You know he's going to be on the bus soon. This will be... Yeah, I know. And I have nothing against him as like a first thing. And he's a stoolie, too.

He'll listen to this. Yeah. Look, he was SEC East guy. We played him against Tennessee. We absolutely donkeyed them. Will Levis is like, he was a pretty decent quarterback for the SEC. Like nothing crazy. I just feel like this is like a lot of like outspoken things he says.

And like there's like weird. There's like a... The mayonnaise thing. Yeah, I don't get shit about the mayo and coffee. Obviously that's way, like that shouldn't be a thing. But, like, that's like, that shouldn't be a thing. I'm not going to be like he puts mayonnaise coffee. Like, no, you'll never play in the NFL.

I don't care. But if we take him in the first round, I would have been devastated because the draft stock way too low to be going first round. Second round, I guess. The trade-ups still not sure if we made the right decision. I don't know. I'm not an analyst. I'm just going to sit back and let time tell if this was a good pick.

And again, I'm a Titans fan, so I hope that Will Levis, pans out to be a long-term guy for us. I don't know if you will, but I hope he comes on the bus and we can talk it over and he can change my mind on him as a person. But as of right now, I love Skoransky and that's kind of where I stand. Hold on. I got a question. I got a question.

I fucking love Jack, dude. Jack's out there in demon mode. I see. My mind on him as a person. I see where you're coming from. from, do you feel a little bit that it was kind of karma? Karma? Because of me?

No, no, hold on. Well, that kind of answered. Never know. But for the whole state of Tennessee being Titans and Valls fans that they now have to root for like somebody that they didn't like. I just, fair question, fair question. If they were to take Hooker. No, I would prefer Will Levis over Hooker.

He seems like a more, go ahead. I've said this on Twitter. This isn't a, like, I, I just don't know if I would have taken a quarterback, too, when we have a lot of other issues at hand. So, I hope he pans out. And, no, I don't think it's, it's karma. I do think it's hilarious that in the first round, everyone's like, fuck, yeah, we evaded Will Levis, and then second round, second.

Straight up immediately. Trade up and we snagging. Now, there were a lot of rumors that the Titans, along with other teams, were fiercely trying to trade up into that late first round. to take Will Levis. Really? Yes. Because everybody wants that fifth year option on a quarterback.

Sure. And so you're taking him at 33 as opposed to 32 or 29 or something like that. There's a lot of, there's a lot of give there because it gives him time to develop. And I have to pay on those big bucks and put people around him. So how mad would you even have the Titans graded into the first round? I'm not doing, like, you know, hypotheticals. Yeah, you don't, you don't comment right now. Not bad, bro.

My fucking bad. I guess about talking. But yeah, fuck that shit, dude. Never mind. I don't do hypotheticals. I do hope that Will Levis comes on the bus soon because he seems like a guy that people are going to want to hear about.

And I do too. I want to hear what he has to say. You want to change your mind on him as a person? Yeah, a person, a player. You see him get hype when he got announced at the time? That got me hype. He was with the family. Yeah, it seems like he's got a lot of heart.

And so I hope he does well. Again, I'm not going to say anything else like after today about it until we see him play. and we just have, like, what are we going to do with Malik? Like, night, dog, I'm sorry, but you're gone. We can't have three of these QBs on the roster, like, right? You can. Yeah, right?

You can, but not, you don't want to dress three if you don't have to. Exactly. And I don't think we will. I don't know. Yeah, usually you don't. Especially the new rules of dressing people. Yeah. Probably not.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, usually you don't. Yeah, dude. I think my. What does happen with him. He was the third round pick. He seemed like a project. There's a lot of headlines and stories out there on that the Titans have kind of given up on him.

Don't know how true that is. I see the headlines like everybody else. And I do not read the articles. I'd just like to assume. That's the most fun part, dude. That clickbaited. Right, right, right, right. But, you know, it's like this the fucking game, dude.

I'm sure he was sitting there hoping that the Titans don't take a quarterback, been in that spot. You hope they don't fucking draft your position. It seemed like on the draft board. It was working out for the Titans. They wanted to move up and get well of us because they saw something in them that they like. And he gets picked. It's like, you see the fucking ticker. You're like, son of a bitch. But, you know, I don't know what happens. It's up to him. It's up to him. Truly up to him.

Like, it's up to him what happens. Because if there's no, if there's no dead cap for Ryan Tannahill, and they don't owe him any money, literally the Titans hope that Will Levis is good enough to cut Ryan Tannahill. Correct. That's what they hope. That's just the business. Zooming out. You hope that Levis or Malik, either one. Again, they're going to be competing for the backup job. It's Ryan Tannhill's job this year. They're going to be competing for the backup job, and you hope that one of those guys show you that, all right, we'll be able

to move on with one of these quarterbacks. It's not like they're crowning Will Levis as the successor of Ryan Tannehill. They see something in him that the thing can help the football team like right now or in the future. That's why they drafted him. They also thought the same thing with Malik last year. They're not saying that they don't

not believe in him anymore. That's why they drafted Will Levis. But now you've got two young quarterbacks who can compete for that job. and hoping that they can overtake Ryan next year so that way they can cut him and relieve themselves some cap space. That's like the fucking business. I think it's the last year on Ryan's contract, right?

It is. So there's not even anymore, no matter what. Yeah, exactly. You hope to God. You're wanting to move on. Yeah, you hope to God that if you're the Titans organization that Will Levis shows enough improvement, depending on where you are from a record standpoint later in the season,

you take Tanna Hill out, you put him in, getting that experience. Because if he's going to be your guy, you need to know right away. Right, depending on where the Titans are at. It might draft another one. If they're winning and they're fucking leading the division and all that. Yeah, they might draft a fucking other one. Dude, if the Titans do not do well,

let's say they have a top 10 pick, they might have to draft, depending on Will Levis, they might have to draft another one. Yeah, you never know. You never know. And then you're hoping, you're hoping one of them does pan out, though,

because they're on their rookie deal. You want to take advantage of building around your future quarterback when they're on a rookie deal, not some break-to-bank second contract. But yeah, man. I do really like... It would be interesting.

I like the two-line. running back, Tijey Spears, apparently he's a feisty dude, and I really like the tight-in pick. Gare really wanted Michael Mare. You go on Garrett's Twitter. He was a Michael Mare's stand account. Yeah, so I love that.

But Michael Mare going to the Raiders, that should be fun for them. Well, he's a high for the boys of silver and black, because Mike, he's a stuff. They got a lot of spots to fill for Tide-in right now. He's got that HGH head, too. He's got a big fucking head, Michael Mare. That Johnny Bravo.

Yeah, he's got that Johnny Bravo fucking head. He should be on that. Dude, he seemed like a braids guy. Exactly. He did. He did. I'm sure he was up there on their board. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Like Michael Mayer was up there probably on everybody's board. I'm fired up that the Silver and Black got him because they lost there in Waller and now they got Michael Mayor, who I think's going to hit the regga running because he just seems like that kind of dude. And Foster. Going back to Tadje Spears, did you see all the reports coming out about his knees? Yeah. He got some shaking knees. He's got some shaking knees apparently.

Now I got that shake? You got that shake? You got like Carlos damage and all this stuff. Apparently at the combine. he almost didn't pass physicals or didn't pass physical as one of the two. This is allegedly, I don't, you know, I'm like you. I saw the tweet and I happen to make it through all 144 characters, 140 characters, but that's all I fucking saw, dude.

Does it say that here? Game changing running back who's also effective at catching the ball. That is something that we need to have, effective catching the ball of the backfield. Does that mean Hilliard's gone? We'll be able to handle a lot of carries at the next level. Not gone. I'm telling you, like, it's not like every rookie is expected to put right away. They are expected to contribute.

some way. Hilliard is a core four guy. He could easily go step in on kickoff, kickoff return, punt, punt return, all that stuff. It's just the nature of the business. Yeah. That running back was there on their board

when they wanted to have it. Six running backs now. Yeah, they got a lot of running backs. I think the biggest thing people are mad about is not taking the Y receiver. See, I think... I think the tight-in pick will act as that missing...

He thinks so. Is this name Y is a while? King has little Delaney. I agree. He is a beast. This guy's... This guy is as tall as you, like, apparently highball guy. That's why I was confused.

If you're going to take a tight-in later, why wouldn't you've taken Michael Mayer? But maybe it's because of his skill set. Look, that seemed like the- Michael Mayer is a past catching tight end. Right. Whoa. You hear that? Yeah.

Yeah, I did. A little bubble in the throat there. Whoops. He also like to put people in the dirt, too. That's why you kind of love the attitude of Michael Mayor. But this dude is, Josh Weil. You know Braves probably fired up. He comes out of Cincinnati.

Mattie, Coach Fickle, coach them forever. Braves and Fickler, they're like best men at each other's wedding. So I'm sure they did all the due diligence to be like, oh, this is our fucking guy in the fifth round. One thing to put a note on the Titans draft, their picks, more white guys than they probably need. It was like three to two. All offense.

Yeah. Yeah, you don't like seeing that bright. You don't like seeing that brightness on the offense. You see them pale face when it comes up on the profile. Deceiving. Yeah. Yeah. All hardworking, gritty, tough.

Smart guys. Yeah. Now, you know, if it's on the old line, you can, that's where they belong. But you get on the outside, you know, you like to see a little. They belong. The white guys. Yeah, what about Kyle Phillips? Another big head cat.

There's anomalies out there. You know what I mean? There's anomalies out there. Those anomalies, yeah. And speaking of anomalies, there's a white DB in the league. Yes. There's a white. Riley.

The league. You know, I didn't like the clap. We shouldn't have clapped. I did not like the way that felt. We don't know we've got to be fucking proud. Oh, boss in here. We're missing the fucking diversity.

Eight white guys celebrating a white guy. Fuck yeah. Yeah. That is an anomaly, dude. And I'm pretty sure he's got a mustache too. And a mullet. Does he not? I think he's going to move to safety soon.

And we didn't draft him? He's got to. He's got to. You got to be fired up. White cornerback out of, you know, where else? Iowa. Yeah.

That's Iowa. Nebraska have weight in Wisconsin. Riley Moss. Riley Moss. Let me see a pick of this cat, dude. Third round. All eyes are going to be on him, dude. During the offseason with all of us,

with the DB room and everybody else. Like, look at his white boy out here. Ballin. Yeah. Man. Dude, this is one article about, I guess Troy Apke was the only other white cornerback. How it's titled is,

Troy Avkey broke the NFL's 18-year. run without a white quarterback. Dude, 4, 4, 5. Boy can move now. Yeah. Only a 10th of a second faster than Will. 39? He's a 10th of a second.

Drew. That's true. Chris, for those of you guys who don't know, Will says you ran a 4-5 at his pro day. Strengths and weaknesses. It would be so funny if weaknesses was just white. Yeah. Yeah.

As a cornerback, white cornerback. It just as, you know. Yeah. That's fucking crazy. But yeah, the draft was a unique perspective this year, especially because we were in New York. Will did a phenomenal job, I thought. His word count was very low the entire time. However, when he spoke,

he had some good shit to say. And his outfit was incredible. Lower, I appreciate that. Lower than normal on the word count. I felt like being on the outside of that little of the four seats. It was a little difficult because Brandon and Roan had a really good report. Roan, shout out the boy. Brandon hosting the whole thing.

But Roan coming in with some, with some feedback and words like the dude, his brain, he's a freestyle fucking rapper that happens also love sports. So I felt like he gave a lot of good intellect and added a lot of value to that. Then I had Chey next to me. I felt like Che was a little, he was a little suppressed.

And I think Caleb Presley came out of the gate early swinging on him and kind of hurt his confidence a little bit because Caleb had some weird energy coming on the, coming on the... Caleb was body. He was just body. He was like, Stevie, you don't know... And they got a lot of bullets.

He caught a lot of bullets in the beginning. also Big Cat apparently plays a prank on him every single year. But this year the prank was not pulling a prank and just telling you, hey, good luck, you're going to do great. And so I could feel that. After the first five picks, I was like, oh, Stephen Shea's mentally fighting the battle right now. He picked the shots. I thought he did well. And, dude, you're in Frank's little rapport.

Your guys' little dynamic duo throughout was a fun time. Yeah. I remember when I gave him a hug when he first came in the building, I looked at my jacket and there was a nice little remembrance package he gave me of oil. That was nice, dude. I fucking love Frank, dude. He's yelling, just mad about the Mets. And all of a sudden, he goes, the dolphins call you?

I was nice. Yeah. The hug was nice. Dude, the hug. And the thing is, too, I just put my arms out and let him come in. He was like feet kind of just shuffled over and just gently got placed into my right pack. It was nice. He kind of walks like a South Park character.

Yeah. He's kind of like. Yeah, he does. Hey, we can't sleep on Will breaking the Bejohn Robinson news. Yeah. Oh, fuck, man. Dog, when that was happening. I guess do that, brother.

Well, Coach Smith, I was like, early in the day, I was like, hey, I'm going to be on the desk tonight for the Barstle draft show. Like, we love the inside, we'd love the inside track whenever you know who you're getting. He's like, I got you. I'll let you break it. And when the pick was coming up, I shot me the eyes. I was like, how are you feeling? And then all he shot me was a gift of Matthew McConaughey, just hitting the chest. But to me, I thought he was just saying, like, the vibes are up.

We're about to have it figured out. I'm going to have this pick to you in a second. not knowing that he met Matthew McConae, there's your tip, Texas Longhorns, Bejan Robinson. So then there's a group chat. Taylor hits it and says, hey, who's it going to be? And then I shoot the eyes. I'm like, okay, maybe he's going to tell us in this chat. He's like, I told Will, but I guess he didn't want to break it. And I'm thinking, what the fuck is he talking about?

He didn't tell me. That's on art, dude. He's got to understand that sometimes. Sometimes you don't see that shit. I'm not trying to come at you, but sometimes you don't pick up those pieces. I'm working the phone, though. I'm thinking myself, I'm working the phones all the time. It was so funny watching everybody at bars still fucking just on their phones

trying to get the next pick. Yeah, I'm sitting here thinking. I was doing it too. I was thinking everybody I knew. These boys are doing a great job filling space right now just talking conversation. I'm going to get us this pick, not knowing that Stephen Chey had already said like, oh, Falcons are going Bejan Robinson. And then I put my phone down.

My boys got breaking news. Falcons are getting Bejohn Robinson. And then Brandon Walker, you guys, you can run the clip. but Brandon Walker is just like, where in the fuck have you been? And then I just kind of like, that's on me. We make clips here.

Dude, me and Brandon Walker will fight at some point in this life. I will say I thought he was trying to figure it out. He was, but I made the conscious decision to not figure it out that day. Yeah,

I did not want to figure our shit out that day. Dude, I had a tough one too. I got the news that Will Levis was being taken by the Titans early. So I tweeted it out, Will Levis to the Titans?

I said it first. Refresh it. And who's the fucking Ari guy? That's always breaking the news fastest on Twitter. Ari Mirov? I refreshed it and it was like my tweet right like above his tweet. Like they're like 15, 20 seconds off. That is the tip you got though.

So you knew the Titans were on the inside track with Will Levis. But when it didn't happen, you're like, okay, maybe that just didn't happen. No, he didn't. Do we even text Ravel? Vraib never texted me. Yeah. He didn't text us back. He didn't text me back.

I know the day before, whenever he was bodybagging me for saying, like, whenever I commented on the Malik Willis, like, they weren't going to do anything in the playoffs, the Titans. Vraib texted me and goes, you don't know what I mean you had in common last year? And I was like, what? He goes, neither of us were going to do anything in the playoffs. Like, God damn it, dude. Body.

And I was like, hey, I'm on the desk tomorrow for the Barstile draft show. I was like, hey, you know, I need you to make a splash play. And then he just didn't text you back. That's tough when he doesn't text you back. It's always on Vrabel's terms, whether or not you're going to be friends that day. Yeah, yeah. I texted him the other day for that June 27th event. And I was like, I want you to sing the national anthem.

And he goes, I got Morgan Wallin for you. Obviously, he's kidding. But I told him, I was like, I'd much rather have you than Morgan Wall. Yeah, like, that's why I'm asking you. And I literally lent the olive branch. It was like, hey, you should come by, though. Good group of dudes coming. Nothing.

It's fucking tough. He's working. You know, he's in it. Yeah. And I obviously said he was overweight on part of my take podcast. So that's really going to put us down a couple more notches. Yeah, especially if we listen to it. If Barber one's like, if, if.

Rable is on that shit. Yeah, but you think he's going to listen to the full full hour or whatever? But you know part of it. They're going to clip that. I know if they clip it, that's what you got to worry about. Yeah.

They clip it and tag Brave. I kind of hope they do clip it. I want Brable to know. Yeah, maybe it'll help him. I remember when you're going through that and then you're like looking over me else. I don't know why you're looking to me.

Yeah. Trying to get some fucking help from you, brother. That's what I was doing. But I'll tell you what, I saved Corey Levin's NFL career. Yeah. He looked like a muffin. I might have done the same for Brable.

saving his... Saved him from heart. Failure. Failure, yeah. Arirabasco disease. If he keeps fucking going, you don't know. It's incremental things, right?

I feel like he works his tail off. I just think genetically it's caught up to him. Gravety. No, I don't think so. I think it's a diet thing for him. You know gravity? They kind of take your tits and you can start sagging a little bit. I feel like gravity.

I don't think he does. He does a great job with the vest. Layering up. Layering up. You don't know where it starts and where it finishes, though. It's always fall for him. Yeah, it is always fall. Yeah, it's like 95 degrees in July.

I'll have that fucking best on. He's taking shots at you now, too. It's always fall for brains. He will see this. Yeah. And if he does in general, definitely show him. Should you hit a black tucks? I would love to hit a black tucks.

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now we're back we're back boys a little rocky to start jp i think that's what people need to hear they need to hear about somebody on the streets who's done this and fortunately over the weekend you did have a wedding where you were supporting and you look fantastic too i saw the suspenders move thank you that's a fucking move at weddings dude you put the suspenders on you're living the dream i had a dress on also yeah i saw that photo as well video will be leaking soon yeah how'd that go it went well did he was shocked he's a very like masculine testosterone filled guy okay so i was kind of prepared for him to like either push me or punch me. But he turned around and he kind of,

he reconsidered marrying his wife. And he was like, hey, man. Hey. You're where you got it like that? Yeah. You got them curves? Curve. You've seen me?

Show everybody else. You got feminine curves? Oh, yeah, my butt. Yeah, the only cheeks I see on this bus are Will's. He's so hard not to see. They're not Will level. Yeah, Will's got them fucking cheeks on him now. We're working hard now.

Let's say, let's not say I haven't noticed. I've noticed. You got a little bit of cheeks. crazy because I was absolutely casting a long-ass web, big-ass web, trying to get compliments from you. I know. And you go, ah, you know. Well, yeah, but you were looking for the compliment.

I would rather do it in a setting like now. And then you get a little bit more excited versus like, hey, what do you think about my ass? You're like, Taylor's like, hey, so what are you been thinking about my ass? Yeah. Like, you got all the zins in your back pocket. You're going to have to move it. It's kind of taken out from that elevation on that bottom, that bottom row. You know what I'm saying?

That lift we all love to see. Surgery, dude. It does it to you. The best compliment I've gotten was in South Carolina. from Mitch. Unsolicited at the bar, just waiting to grab a drink. And Mitch came up behind me. I was like, hey. I'd give that thing a ride. That sounds good, brother. I thought, oh, fuck yeah, dude. Thank you. When you see it, you gotta, you gotta give a...

Give flowers. Yeah. That's right. Normalized dudes, hyping dudes. Yeah. Hell yeah, man. We're 44 minutes into this piece. Should we do a little shout-out of the week? I would love to. Do we have anything else? Is there anything else we had time? Yeah, because we love to save shout-on-off for just a little bit of fun. And then we kind of transition into the interview, which a big interview, by the way. Big interview. Supercross interview.

Yeah, we can recap Supercross, dude. Mitch, I think you're the best person to start with this. Actually, I'll start. Hang on, I'll preface to you starting it. Boys diving into the Supercross world. All Mitch, all Taylor, you guys love fucking Supercross. For me, when they're bringing up Supercross, I'm like, you know, is it going to, I mean, I haven't done anything to what?

Cross is it going to hit? Yeah. I haven't done anything with Supercross since I used to play. What is it? ATV versus ATV. Hang on one at a time, boys. Go ahead. MX versus ATV.

That game was fucking fired. But I have no clue about the Supercross world, but the boys were adamant about doing it. So I'm fired up that we are diving into that world. Yeah, me too, me too, me too. Yeah, so Will already said it. Big, big motocross fan, freestyle motocross fan. You nut over dirt bikes.

Yeah, dude. That was like the first love for me being like, you know, I got my first dirt bike when I was five years old. My grandpa got it for me. Had the old training wheels on it and stuff like that. I used to remember ripping around the neighborhood, dude, on that the coolest kid on the block. Rip over, go to people's houses.

People on bicycles. I was on that fucking motorcycle. I kept fucking gradually going up. Got into jumping a little bit. Was I good? No. But I would have a lot of fun doing it? Absolutely.

Was a massive fan of Chad Reed and Ricky Carmichael in the Supercross landscape. Then obviously, you know, Brian Deegan, Travis Pastrana and those guys. And then the freestyle motocross world was my shit. Mitch brought this to us. I thought, hell yeah, this is going to be fucking awesome. And we all know Mitch, soft-spoken individual.

It doesn't like to really put out too much. But as we dove into this, after we did the interviews and all that, and we started doing the Supercross, like Mitch, his brother and his dad came with. And these guys are like, oh, that's so-and-so.

He's ranked number of this. And he has this many points right now. They are fucking into it. And it seems generational. Like his dad grew up doing dirt bike. So, like, he knew the world. He knew the generation that were coaches in this dirt bike game.

Who was the guy we saw at Suzuki? Larry Brooks. Larry Brooks. I was like my dad's like Chad Reed. Yeah, that was like his fucking dude apparently. Yeah. Like you're Ryan Reynolds. Like it was like that for him.

You were Travis Pastrana. Yes. And so we see him and I guess like you went up to him and told him. Well, no, I think the guy was like, oh, this is Larry Brooks. And I go, okay, he used to ride back in the day. I'm like dad. That's Larry Brooks. I don't know who it is.

He lit up like a damn Christmas tree. He did, bro. He was so fired up. He was so fired up. He was so fired up. He almost didn't make it. Like he landed at 12. And because the interviews went long, he was able to come and meet us.

You're welcome, Dad. As we were walking in the door, he pulled up and ran up. So I'm happy he was able to make it. Yeah, he was a kid. Nick King's all of them, dude. We got to walk on the track, go through it. They're talking about how they go through, like, when they do a track walk. They only get eight minutes to warm up before racing.

And they don't ride it before. So they're like literally trying to figure, okay, I can double this, triple this. I have to bounce off this, all that different stuff, like working through the process. And those dudes injuries are crazy. Like, who's what's the buddy who had the? the arm. Roxon. Yeah.

That's the who. That's the guy's coming on today. Rocks. He fucking... Compound fracture. What is? His wrist and his elbow. Yeah.

Like a career ender, dude. Done. And he, this interview is incredible. He goes into like mindset and all that stuff. Two completely different interviews we did. Completely different. One was like definitely revolved around like,

um, the mental game and getting your body right and all that. And the other one was like, I mean, our boy. Yeah. Track snacks. Which we got to make a hat. Yeah. The hack called track snacks.

That shit's hilarious. Moto hoos, dude. Moto hoax. What, Mitch, from all that shit, what was, like, your favorite, your favorite part? My favorite part was Saturday being able to. Fuck, I know, dude. Like, I was able to go on the track, and, like, you could feel the engines. Like, as the start was, like, about it happened, my heart rate started getting up.

Like, I was getting juiced up for it. And, like, seeing them on TV and seeing them in person, like, on the track, they are so much faster than what you, like, ever believed. and then like I've always grown up going to like my dad and brothers races and like they're amateurs they're not like anything crazy but you see like the pros doing it and like being on the floor with them which is absolutely insane so like I was telling gee like I I enjoyed this more than like the football stuff we've done like when we went to not that not saying I didn't like the football but like this you have a love for fucking supercrossed it was like it was supercross is hiring it was it was it was it was

It was just really cool. It was a really cool experience. Yeah, that's awesome. I got a good time. I was so bummed. I missed Saturday. Dude, I woke up in the middle of night Friday. Massive fever.

Dying, dude. And then the next day, or that evening, also, Wynn went down too. So I was heartbroken. I couldn't make it. Out of all the people I was around. I don't know if it was you. That got me sick.

I would love to, yeah, I agree. I agree. I agree. Yeah, dude, it was a great time. And Rood didn't catch anything. That's good for them. None of the boys in the back. No, do you feel all right?

Mitch, yeah. But I tell you what, you put a single germ around the lawn, dude. Mental warfare, dude. War going on. I know, it's so weird. Like, what the fuck? I used to never get sick. You know it is those damn five-year-olds, because you know.

Dude, the five-year-old kids, the haters get sick all the time. And they dust your family. I used to never get sick. It was probably not sick once in college. And I did everything I could to get sick. Yeah. But I never did.

Yeah, yeah. Never did, dude. Anyway. Where do we go from here? I don't know for Shadow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you guys ride on the track? No, it's too muddy.

But we made Mitch do it. They're like, he's going to fall. He'll fall for sure. All right, get him out there. Mitch went down and back, no problem. There was a little bit of a problem. There's a couple of hairy situations. Yeah, but overall, the writers were like,

you guys. You guys are going to struggle. Like, you guys are going to fall down. Like, the conditions right now are not good. And I went out there. They were like, we're impressed. And I'm like, saying I impressed pro motocross guys. Yeah.

Pretty cool. Well, we saw that smile. Yeah, he was fired up. You were just making fun of my head not being able to find a helmet, going to fit or anything. He really, he's really playing into that joke quite a bit, isn't he? Yeah. Not to say I haven't joined in also, but like, he's definitely bearing that.

I don't really care. You have to have gotten it from your mom because your dad really doesn't have that big of a head. Yeah. I think so, probably. Yeah. I don't got that noggin, dude. God. No shots of your mom.

Love your mom, dude. I know your whole family. They're a fan of the bus. So just a little busting balls, mom. Yeah. But his brother had the same thing going on. Yeah, brother had a fat head. Brother had a fat head, too.

He didn't say a whole lot too really kept to himself. Did they enjoy themselves? What did they think of the bus and everything? They thought it was really cool. All right. They just can't believe this is where you. work like just gritty back there on the little tables and everything hell yeah dude what a fucked up establishment we have here yeah i think it's cool too that you like love supercross that's not

like the the most recognizable sport yeah it's like growing in popularity but like i what uh you made a comment like you guys should do like an f1 thing i think that would be huge i know it's like not as big as f1 or anything but it'd like but f1 their popularity has grown like men's fucking 10x from just that little docu series they made on Netflix. I mean, they're doing it out with golf. The quarter of the QB or a quarterback is coming out where they're falling around the homes. I think Marcus Mariotta. And one other.

Gino? No, I think it was another solid dude. He said, no, I think it was a. It was a Lamar? Sorry, you know. Geno is a beast. Anyways, those ones all has like massive, like, a lot of money in it. I should have.

Now that I see it, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right. Patrick Mahomes, Kirk Cousins, Marcus Marriota. But they're doing all these old docu-series, I think it'd be sick. If you're trying to grow the sport, I think that's a move on a sport that needs attention is get them docus series. The Supercross doesn't have as much money as all those sports. So I think that's probably where they are not able to do that and capitalize on it. But I think it would be sweet.

Yeah, that would be dope. Before we do cheer talk or shout enough for shout out, are we doing cheer talk as well? I saw that on the docket. We're going to have to do it either. We'll do it. We can do it Thursday. We'll do it Thursday. I'm going to pee.

Are you going to read that ad? Yeah, if you want me to. I can do whatever fuck you want, buddy. Our show. I can literally sit here in silence for 10 minutes if I wanted to. How dope is it, huh? Boys, how do you guys feel about this whole experience? Yeah, you like it?

How ridiculous is this? This is our job. That's awesome. Yeah, talk of the thing. Oh, Ron? Oh, yeah, it's unreal. I just, yeah, you see the pictures of the bus, but to put it in real life, that's pretty cool.

Yeah, it's fucking awesome. It's all this literally came with it, too, all the stickers and all that. And the ones that are at the purple on it, that's all racist shit. Oh, that we had to take off. But anyway, what a good pivot into Duke Cannon, dude. Well, warmer weather is here and things are heating up for the boys. But guess what?

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do canin not for clowns which we really need to rework we've gone over clown salaries before that shit's real they make good money they're they're a respected establishment what they do around here buddy quick pee that's not like you oh yeah i mean i did set a record but yeah set a baytime record big record i think a minute 40 something that's pretty fucking awesome cross from gate 48 at the logoree airport oh yeah he did is you're right yeah um what was that a minute 46 minute 40 something like that minute 40 something yeah mid a 40 something yeah you know it was it was a big time record um and it was wild too going to new york because people were like the boys it was like a whole bunch of people out there dude it was nuts people were fucking with us big time and that is a nice feeling

that is a nice feeling to know that this is really happening yeah yeah we're really doing this yeah it was in 6000 episodes in we're fucking really we're getting after it dude who would who would have thought chris is there anything you guys want to talk about maybe college maybe you guys his careers. Chris, for those you don't know, Chris Brown and went to Michigan with me, lived really close to me at one point. And we used to play poop

dollar all together, all together all the time. Words today. It's a toughie out here. Yeah, we played too much poo dollar. Yeah. Way too much. It would always end the same way. Same street. I mean, I don't know how these people didn't figure it out. Yeah. Do you think after a while they'd get it? I mean, the tenth time, it was like the same dollar.

We'd just get reusing the same time. And then all of a sudden some homeless guy would come by and pick it up. I got a call from a couple of offense alignment at Michigan. I wasn't going to say office. Here we are. They called me when I was in Vegas like, hey, how do you play poop dollar? Because they were going to play. And apparently they did.

Had fun times. Getting after that thing. The best one we ever did was at my bachelor party, though. That was all time. Yeah, dude. It was expensive. And it ended pretty quickly, didn't it? Oh, yeah.

Yeah. A lot of homeless in Austin. A lot of homeless out of homeless out there. We sat. A lot of the guy. Well, the one guy got pissed. The one guy got pissed. Yeah.

And he was with his girlfriend or somebody who's trying to impress. And we're like, fuck you. Yeah, yeah. And a couple beers deep, dude, having a good time. Watch people pick up shit. The third guy just pocketed it and flicked us off and we applauded him. Yeah. Sit up and applaud him.

That was unbelievable. Dude, you do that. Now you get shot up here in the States, brother. Shit a little wild out here. Again, it was an expensive poo dollar. It's a poo hundred dollar. So, yeah. I think I would even pocket a poo hundred dollar.

By the hundred bucks. It's a hundred bucks. It's real. That's a real fucking deal. Yeah, it was awesome. Is there anything you want to get into before we hit this episode? I don't think so. Buy our merchandise.

Please God do that. We had a nice little, we had a nice little thing come out of me giving birth to Mitch and Will receiving a hat. Shout out Jack, dude. Let's give Jack a round of applause real quick. Very impressive. That beautiful brain. It's angry right now because the Titans draft, but he's fucking, it is a beautiful brain. I got a compliment at 8th and Roast.

No free shout out to 8th and Roast. And buddy was like, I just got done watching your guys's fucking merchandise video where you guys are giving birth to a baby. And he was like, that was creative. I was laughing my ass off right before I came in here. I was like,

oh, that fires me up. Yeah. And you had, literally that wasn't even your best idea that you have in the roster. Yeah, we've got a couple of them.

Yeah, we got some good ones coming up. They're going to break the mold for advertising. Yeah. We're doing it. I mean, if me giving birth to Mitch pulling that head out of my uterus,

and Will being careless with his nut and receiving that dad hat doesn't sell I mean what are we doing boys? We're trying and Jack's like yeah we've got to be the best at Barstool for doing these fucking weekly merch Don't say it too loud Don't say it we don't want people

We're competing We're out there competing Competitions are ways When people don't know they're competing That's true I just want to put it out there That we're aware And we are coming

We're here And he's Louis I think we might be number one And it's Louis Dude I don't know if we should even talk about Dion But all those dudes transferring away, coming back, all that shit. He's open about it. He's like, you buy a new house.

You want to decorate with new furniture. You got to get the old furniture out. He talked crazy about those damn kids. Like, hey, do what you got to do, brother. Yeah, like he's trying to build a program. He's trying to build culture. Weed out the guys who are, you know, who don't want to be there. Do you think, how do you think they're going to do?

I think they're going to surprise people. That's what I think. I think they're going to surprise people. I think until Dion has a actual. down year, an unsuccessful year. I think right, so far, he's proved every spot. He's proved each year that he can fucking, he can do this thing. Shout out Dion, dude.

You know what I'm saying? Can't wait for him someday come on our show. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, absolutely. How do you feel about it? Yeah, the first year's always so tough. You see if all those new guys coming in, old guys leaving, how is the locker room really feel?

So you kind of wonder, like, how everything's jelling? Because I wonder if there's like, um, kind of like a... I don't know how the guys that are coming and feel, knowing the way the way Dianz talks about them being Louie and all that. And then the old guys, if they kind of feel some type of way that these new guys and that could cause a divide in the locker room, there's a lot of dudes.

College football is like 120 people. Right. So there's a lot of different personalities to kind of come together. I wonder how that camp's going to look. Camp's when we're really going to figure it out. Yeah. If you've got a squad or not. I feel like he does nothing but drop gyms and like he,

the way he speaks. Like sometimes like I can see how people see that it's, it's arrogant and pompous. But I feel like he's always came on to the, scene and it's always made some people a little uncomfortable, whether it's coming in to play football, whether it's playing baseball and football at the same time and hitting a home run and then going and playing a game the next day, like getting into the coaching scene, even in media, going to Barstall Sports, Jackson State, all the stuff he's saying and then jumping to

Colorado, every move he's made, he's been successful. And I feel like he's always, again, he's always got a lot of, like, philosophy that he shares along the way on why he does what he does, and people are just going to have to wait and see it for it to be true. And I think this is going to be, I think it's going to be maybe something similar. I don't know if they're going to be as successful as he was as you're actually straight out of the gate because you're now playing Division I football and the competition's higher. Yeah. And you're starting at a place like Colorado, like no disrespect.

But there's a reason like 30-something guys are shuffling out of there. Like they're a shitty fucking team. Shitty team. And, but I'm excited to see how it goes, man, because I think it'll be cool. Like if he, like, just kind of climbs the ranks and does it his way like he has in every situation in his career. You saw their spring game, right? The attendance? Yeah.

Wow. Insane. So you got to make, how does it make you feel? Nebraska plays them the first game of the year, right? Second game. Second game. It's going to be mostly red. You think so still?

I think it's going to be a fuck load of red, man. I think that fan base, I think Colorado is already seeing them being like, oh, this is our best hire we've had and maybe ever. I don't want to disrespect any coach out there that's been there. It's been successful. But, yeah, I mean, turning it around and people are showing up like that and people seem to fuck with Dion. I think he's going to win a lot of football games there

won't be against Nebraska, but I think he's going to win a lot of football games. Do you think there'll be one in one after week two? Yeah. I don't know who they, who do they play first? They could be O and two. PCU? They're going to be O and two. They're going to start out O and two.

But I'm rooting for, I'm fucking pulling for Dion. Like I am pulling for Dion. PCU, loss. Los. Los. Colorado? Dub. Yeah, Colorado State Dub.

Oregon. Lost. Los. One and three. USC? Lost. One in four. Colorado.

Arizona State. Now that's going to be a good game. That's going to be a good game. Good game. Ooh. Lost. That was one in five. One and five going against Stanford.

I think you beat Stanford. Okay. You surprised UCLA. I think this is where they start coming around. Okay. That's three and five. Oregon State. Tough, but I'll say dub.

Okay. Four and five. Arizona. Five and five. Okay. Washington State. At Washington State. in state, I think they drop a game there.

Okay, five and six. Utah loss. Five and seven. Yeah. If you're Colorado listening to this right now, Will's prediction, you should be hype. You guys are probably going to go undefeated based off him what he did to Kansas City last year. Yeah, Will single-handedly got Kansas City a Super Bowl. Right.

Now, hang on a second. How do you personally feel, JP hearing me talk about it? Like, are you part of the fan base? Like, you're like, oh, damn Colorado is going to win a lot? Are you like, oh, my man, he's probably on to something? I think Colorado is going to go to a bowl game. But I think it's going to take a while. I think that's one more game.

I think that's one of the things, if they're six and six, they're going bowling. Yeah, I feel like the way you were just speaking about, Dian, I felt it was more like he's going to come in and succeed just how he succeeded and everything else. Yeah. But again, that can be losing close games. What was their record last year? It was abysmal, right? Yeah, they won like one or two games. I think the offset.

If you win five games, that's a success. I think they're going to beat TCU. What? I think TCU is going to fall off. I hope so. They deserve it after what they did to us in the playoffs. I hope they beat TCU because that's going to make our win look better. Week two.

Bro. I'll say this. I'll agree with you. I'll say a six win season. They'll go to a bowl game and the majority of their losses, I think, will be close games. So where it's like, yeah, okay, we went six and six or maybe had a losing season. But if you look at the losses, like, they're fucking trending in the right direction. I was saying all that stuff without seeing the schedule.

And they seem to have a, they got a hefty one, dude. But PCU, though, dropping off makes us feel a whole lot better. Yeah. Because if we're speaking, we're not being biased at all. I mean, they could easily be 2 and 0, right? Just based of how Nebraska's been, brother. I love how you're like. I'm just letting you know.

I love you're going to step it around. Colorado State. Now you could be 3 in a Oregon. Like you just said the most disrespectful. I think, you know. I know how you are about Nebraska, brother. And it's like, I want to be there to support you, but sometimes we're going to look through a clear lens.

But you also need to understand that I know that. this is the hill like I'll stand on. Yeah, and absolutely. Not in a way of like what you're saying has no rash. Knowing that you'll die on that hill, it's like, I don't want to just catch bullets from you for no reason. So I'm like, hey, let him live. Let Nebraska live, brother.

You said, what, dude? All of a sudden, I'm getting wrestled again. It could be two and oh, right? The fucking hand thing. Hey, listen. Anyway, that's our episode. Dude, I'm suing a guy. No, for Shut up.

Yeah. Shout out, no, for you show. Wait, I thought we're not. I thought we're waiting for Thursday for shout, no for shout out. That's tear talk. Yeah, that's tier talk. Oh, fuck, we haven't even done that yet. Boys, do you guys want to do?

Shout, No For Shoutout? You guys know the premise of it, yeah? I love that. I don't know if he does, but I know. Do you? Chris? Well, we'll have JP go first. JPM start it off.

Ladies gentlemen, welcome to shout out, no free shout out. One of our favorite segments at the week. I feel like we have 14 at this point, but starting is going to be J.P. Hovey. My shout out, no free shout out goes to one of my favorite inventions of all time. and that is blackout curtains.

And just we were at the hotel this weekend and just not knowing what time it is in the morning is one of the best feelings ever. And I hope to own blackout curtains in my house one day. So that's my shout-out, no free shout-out. That's a good one. J-P. Can't tell you something? Yeah.

They're great. I know. They are great. They are game change. You have the blackout boys? Yeah. All right, Jackie, what you got, brother? My shout-out.

No-f shout-out goes to a few individuals on the bus, but more of a collective. Will, Taylor, JP, personal text from Garrett, Mitch, didn't hear anything from you. Oh, no. But I hit 10K on Twitter, and I'd love to shout out the community

that's written with me so far, where it's, yeah, yeah. Give it to them, boys. Give it to them. You know, you can look on these accomplishments and be proud, but then you've got to just turn the other direction and head for 100K.

So we are, we're nearing in on it. I believe I'm at 10.4. So only like 99,600 followers left. You want to follow me on Twitter. You can find it somewhere. 90,000. Oh yeah. Damn.

It's all good, brother. Big brain podcast. But, yeah, appreciate all the support. All my boys out there on the bird. Dude. Go ahead. Drop your ad. underscore Jack McPherson.

Jack, not a burner. You'll find it out there somewhere. If not, who gives a fuck? You'll find me someday. Dude, that big jump, you, like, 500 yesterday, right? Yeah, because of you, you were like, hey, everyone follow him. Let's get him to 11K. My fucking boy, dude.

You are my boy. My little brother. It is, yeah. There's no doubt. We were literally at Barstool the other day. I'm not going to say, well, a lot of things. Actually, you know what I won't say it. Who's up next?

We're going Mitchie or Chris? You're going to Mitch or Chris? Mitch. Let's go Mitch. We'll hit the boys go and then we'll go last. My shout out, Murphy's shout out this week goes to Supercross. The guys that we were with, shout out Sean Brennan. He was the PR guy.

He basically allowed us to do whatever the hell we wanted. It was super cool. I mean, he was going to get you two on bikes. Unfortunately, the weather wasn't permitting. But he would just walk around with me and hey, you want to go over here and get this shot and do this. He was helping me out with everything. And also

Jackson Canard, he He was the one who DM'd me. It was like, hey, they're coming to Nashville. Like, I was trying to do something. So he's the one, got me in contact with Sean, made everything happen. So shout out those two and just shout out the sport of Supercross. Dude, hell, yeah. Did you meet Brian Dagan?

I didn't. He was like, I was talked to Sean. I was like, hey, Taylor's here tomorrow. He's going to kind of want to meet Brian Degan. He's like, all right, we'll make that happen. You could just, you could ask, like, to meet anybody. And this dude was like, all right, let's go. Yeah.

And who was the guy that was a fan of the podcast? Christian Craig. Dude, some dude, he had an elbow brace in. No doubt. That fucking fired us up too. Yeah. Dude, you don't know who Brian Deegan is, Garrett? Brian Deegan, first guy to Everlanda 360.

Metal Militia. In the 20003X games. Dude, does it 360? Lands, the bike lands on like a side dirt pit and he just sticks it right there. Pounce it. It's fire. He was part of Metamilisha. Come on.

Got to know that shit, bro. You ever seen Nitro Circus? Hey, Niger Circus rips, too. My shout-out. No, for shout-out. I was going to go to something I feel like we haven't experienced. in Nashville in a while, but it feels like we're actually experiencing

a spring right now. We're a weekend, crisp in the morning, cold at night, can't beat it. Shout out to the weather. I will tip my cap to that because I do believe there's only six weeks a year

you get out of it, three in the fall, three in the spring. Right now we're about 10 days into it and it's been immaculate. We're literally on week three right now. I probably just jinxed it though. Maybe.

We're on week three right now. Maybe. Ivy. No. Because you were gone I was gone for a week So we're on week three You're right

You're right The three weeks That's how it's been For the decade I've been here Enjoy this last week Yeah So hopefully Let's see what the weather is actually

This coming week Before The week before last week Man it was rocking Talking 70s Starting Friday It rains Five out of six days

and it gets into the 80s. On Friday. On Friday. Starting Friday. So three weeks, boys. We're going to hope those are the afternoon showers. Let's hope. Yeah. Yeah, they will be. They will be.

They will be. All right. Now that we're done making fun of my voice or whatever, why do you guys keep repeating that shit? Maybe. Maybe. I know it is a, and I don't know how I, I don't know if I, I don't know if I want to take the hater route on it.

because sometimes it hits my ear drums a little like, why do you do that? No. I kind of, like saying, knowing you back. I think I did it as a joke at first and now it's kind of like a thing. That just kind of has happened to me.

Kind of like Brian Kelly doing his southern accent, LSU. Yeah. Yeah. Good. All right. Cressie. Give us your shout out. No free shout out.

All right. My shout out, no free shout out is to the people who dominate the middle seat on an airplane. Both arm rests and with the knee in the front when someone tries to recline, that is just, that is an absolute no. So you get that knee in there and they're just not moving, right? And then you dominate the middle seat with the arms. That's just you have to. If you're going to be stuck in that middle seat, you got to assert dominance.

That is an impressive shout out, no free shout out for your first one. That's very good. Happy to be here. Thank you. Yeah. It was good. You've done a good job. That was solid.

Chris too. Yeah. My shout out, no free shout out, is Uber drivers that give a fuck. Okay. We landed and we got a guy, I think we might have gotten in the wrong car. It was like we got a six-seater, but he had all the shit in the back still. Yeah. We couldn't.

We had to get two Ubers and it just reeked. But the last two Ubers we've had have been phenomenal. And so, yeah, like good smell, clean car. Makes all the difference in the world. So they give a fuck about. They give a fuck about their, yeah. Their profession, man. They're professional.

Yeah. And delivering a little stuff. And delivering a service, they care. Yeah. It just makes you feel good. Strong shoutouts by the Chris boys. Yeah. Strong shoutouts by the Chris boys.

Great work. Great work. All right, Willie, what you got for us? My shoutout, no free shoutout goes to daddy daughter days. My wife was out of town over the weekend. She was in Chicago. So it was, uh, it was myself and Rue all weekend. And just nothing, there's just nothing better than like growing that relationship with

your daughter to where they're like, fuck with you to where you're like their friend at the end of the weekend. And even when mom's home, like this morning, we went to the coffee shop and everything else. And she just be like, da-da. Yeah. I want to come over and like, lean on me and stuff. And I was like, yo, I fucking fuck with her, bro. But yeah, my shot of no free shout-out goes to daddy-daughter days or weekends.

Sometimes the moms get selfish. They do. Yeah, they take away. I think Charles was fired up for me because she's like, you know. Yeah. Because sometimes something is. She really fucked up for you. It was like, hey, good for you.

Now she's like, babe, look, she's saying, look. She's like, reaching across and she'll be like, whispering. She's like, daddy. Hell yeah. And it just, it just fires up. me out. You just go and grab her little cheeks. But yeah. That's my shout-out, man. Daddy-daughter weekends. Hell yeah, dude. That's all time. That's a good

one. My shout-out, no free shout-it, is going to go to... When you go to a restaurant, and it's not a nice restaurant, but the condiments on the table include more than just ketchup and mustard. You got fucking ranch on there, maybe some barbecue sauce as well.

Who got ranch? Who's got ranch in there? We went to that burger spot like three weeks ago. What's the? I said, keep that in the fridge, at least ranch. You have to be out there. Brother, they put them little things out in the bottles. You fucking put that thing down there. You don't gotta ask for the ranch at the barbecue sauce, especially when we go to a place

like Zips. You say, hey, can we get some extra ranch and they say, how many ranches do you want? You literally have to look at them in the eyes and say five. It's an uncomfortable feeling. Dude, that's your head. Shut up, dude. But Will and I, like, I had to be like three months ago now. Went to that burger spot that everyone was saying was amazing.

We pulled in there, a bunch of Titan fans in there. And they're like, gave us our meal for free. But you had all the condiments and the ranch and everything kind of waiting for you. ranch and everything kind of waiting for us. Gabby's. So it was solid, dude. So my shout out, no free shoutout goes to a diverse. You guys tell the secrets back there, what we got going on?

Dude, they've been doing that all podcast. Jack and JP, we're having to separate them in the next class. I do have to throw in another, like, J.P., you got something? I mean, it's just like a... When Taylor was looking over at you, the microphone is just at his eye. That's all we said. Yeah, dude.

Yeah. Normalized dude typing dudes. I got to throw in one more little shout out. Jack and I went to the sounds game. So shout out to Nick who got us our tickets for free. Dude, literally. Our boy was buying his tickets to go meet us around the corner. And then a guy comes down and goes, dude, tickets are free. We love the pod. And we're like, all of a sudden, our friends that came with us were like, hey, y'all follow us. Let's fucking go. It was a big moment for me and Garrett.

Hell yeah. Let's fucking go, dude. It's probably one of those 10K guys. It's Nicholas House. I think it's Nick K. age. No, it's not. Age, dude. Yeah, shout out to Nicholas

with the sounds, dude, all the time. Fuck yeah, dude. We gotta get out to a sounds game as a group. We want to play... It's so much fun out there. The sounds really do it the right way. Yeah, they do.

Yeah. They do. Well, boys, with that being said, please enjoy this episode of Blessing with the Boys. And like we talked about before, buy the fucking merch, dude. We need this.

Can we introduce the boy a little bit? Can we pull up? Mitch, go ahead. Grab the microphone. Introduce the boy we're about to get because you obviously, you know, You stay rocked up over the boys of Supercross. Our interview today is Ken Roxon.

He is number 94 Supercross. Rise for Suzuki. He talks about, like, his mindset, super big into, like, how he prepares for the races and everything. He talks about what Taylor touched on before. Very focused individual. Yeah, for sure. And then he talks about, like, his almost career-ending injury and how, like, what the battle was, like, coming back from that. Super serious guy.

I have a couple laughs. but with a pond. Yeah, it's overall a very informative pod. We talk a lot about mindset and recovery stuff. He also grew up in Germany. He was about 14 or 15 years old and went down to Florida. And his process, how he trains, where he trains. And just like incrementally, like he teaches us a lot about the process of becoming a young little dirt bike rider to a professional at the 1% of the 1% of running dirt bikes.

So it's a very cool informative podcast. I hope everybody enjoys. As always, big hugs and tiny. And before we go tomorrow, we're dropping a bonus episode with Aaron Plessinger. Aaron Plessinger. It's a totally different vibe on that podcast. Yeah, he was a lot of fun. Yeah, he's a good vibe.

He's a good vibe. Yeah, he's a real good vibe. But that'll be dropping tomorrow, and that's just, that's just on the free. That's just on the free, boys. Yeah. And then we'll do, we're back to regular programming twice a week for this month. The month of May, these next four weeks, this is week one. For four weeks, we're doing twice a week.

So, Taylor and I'll be back on the mic, and it'll just be the boys on Thursdays. So that further ado Subscribe, leave comments We're five stars Let's fucking go Big hugs honey kisses Good work, boys How long was that pod?

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My guest today is the electric Ken Roxon. Does I say that right, Ken Roxon? Yeah, that's right. Dude, so my 13-year-old self will be nutting his pants right now because growing up, when I was five years old, my grandpa got me a little PW50. And I was obsessed with dirt bikes from the get-going. We were kind of talking about it before, but I always like to wait until we're on the mics because if I start retelling the same story, it doesn't have the same feel, the same pizzazz to me. And so, you know, I'm five years old. I get a dirt bike.

I start falling into the Travis Pistranos, the Brian Degans. The first 360 happens. Then I go to like Supercross in Arizona and I'm watching Chad Reed and Ricky Carmichael. So it's an absolute honor to have you on this show. When the boys over here we got on the Zoom, they were telling me you're a fan favorite. You get after it. You're a fun personality. So I'm an electrostag to have you on here today.

It's going to be amazing. Well, I appreciate it. And, you know, as you know, it's so easy to fall in love with the sport, right? Or anything with wheels. At least that's what it is for me. I mean, actually, I had the luxury growing up with a track right on my property. So it was, you know, my dad had a team. and they did it all just for fun, right?

But I had the luxury of going out my back door, jumping on a bike and going. And I think, you know, I went through an entire freaking canister of gas when I was at a young age, not because my dad wanted me to, but I just had the freedom to do whatever. And especially as a kid,

like you can kind of just do whatever you want out of property. Like, that's pretty badass. So basically being you were born into the sport. Like you woke up out of your mom's womb, boom, boom, you're there. And your dad's like, I already got a track, ready for you, ready to go. Like, when did you realize, like, hey, I'm all about, wheels. I'm all about racing.

Yeah, so most people actually don't know as I don't really have an accent, but I was actually, I'm German, like full German, was born in Germany and lived by, yeah. So I moved to the US when I was like 16, 17 was my first year. And I've been here ever since now. That was my, like I pretty much had my entire adult life in the U.S. I bought my first house. Granted, I lived in my own house because on the property, we had a, we had another building. So I kind of had the luxury of that. Yeah, yeah. So it was a full compound. My dad, my parents had a house. I I have my house and we had the track in the backyard in Germany on a property. But yeah, I had my first driver's license here because in Germany you have to be 18,

I have a driver's license. So my entire adult live of buying houses and kind of, you know, kickstarting that is, has been in the U.S. So I feel very Americanized, you know. Yeah. I really have to say that. And I even struggle with speaking German sometimes, you know, when I'm not around it the whole time, my parents have been over a lot more often lately.

So then it comes easier. But for a while, I wasn't, because we're wide open January through, I mean, now it'd be September, you know. So we're wide open. I don't really have much time to, you know, get back home and kind of hang out there. So for a while, I didn't go back. And everything felt super foreign. And which is weird to think about when you've lived where you were born for 16, 17 years. And then down the road, you come back. And that feels foreign to you is a wild feeling. When you're in, when you grow up in Germany and now you're in the United States, like, what was going to the United States? What was like the biggest culture shock for you?

Seeing the difference between Europe and then obviously the United States. Well, so the good thing was that at an early age. So I, I raced my first race when I was three, which is everything for me happened super early. Like most writers start four, five, six right around there. But everything was super early for me. So I started traveling all throughout Europe at an early age as well. I started writing German championship and then European championship, you know, at a really early age. So I was kind of used to go in different countries because I guess it'd be like going from California to Nevada.

I was going from Germany to France, you know? And it's a total different culture. So I was used to that, having said that, coming over for the first time. remember was 2005, actually. That's when I, my parents and Suzuki back then surprised me, actually. We showed up at this property and I'm getting dressed and everything and I'm starting riding. There's super cost tracks, outdoor tracks, like multiple tracks on a property. And so that was, you know, first time of the U.S., it was all new to me.

Like the big tracks, big compounds and everything wasn't normal. So I'm riding and riding and I come back and I see somebody with the number four ripping on a supercarst track and it was Ricky. No shit. I did, had no idea. My parents surprised me. and that was my first encounter with Ricky and then sure enough, down the road, let's say,

oh, 10 years later, I started racing for his team. Yeah. And just wild to think about, right? So anyways, when I first came over to the U.S., I just think we were a little bit thrown in the deep end. I didn't have much supercross experience, right? So we came over here, started racing for Roger DeCoster, which is like the ultimate top level thing that you can do, right?

And I had that in with KTM and the big switch was going on. But overall, like I was new to Supercross, the bikes, the suspension setups. And I went from living on a property to do whatever I want to do to living into an apartment. And then trying to, you know, grocery shopping. Like, it's just things you don't realize until you're actually thrown in the deep end. And, but so cool to look back. I tell people to go out, out the country and, and get different cultures all the time.

At least that's one of my favorite things to do is travel to all different places. When you're able to go back to Germany, like does it feel more foreign to you being back in Germany now that you've been in the United States for so long? At this point, it hasn't been too bad because within the last couple of years, I went back a few times, only just for a few days at a time, but at least I was there more frequently. And that made it feel a lot more like, hey, it starts feeling a lot more familiar again. And I wouldn't say that when I go there, that that's home in a sense, yeah, because of friends and I like food and I love German food and everything. But overall, I'm just never there. So when I do go there, it just, I feel more at home in the U.S. I have to do. Really?

Yeah, it's wild. And I've only been here for about 10 years. So I don't know if you would consider that a long time or not. A decade. Do you take a decade in? You're cemented. Right. Yeah. You've completely switched. I mean, I feel like I'm a complete different person in a sense. I want to believe that I'm a better person. But complete different person than when I lived in Germany. Granted, I was young. And you're staying in Florida now. Is that we're going to have home base when it's all sudden done? Correct. Yeah. I used to split my time. Florida is my home base, like my main spot. But I lived in San Clemente before. which is between LA and San Diego. Big fantasy. So that's where I first actually went was from Germany. I went straight to California and that's where I based myself out of.

And then transitioned over to Florida. But I've always had, my teams have always been in Southern California. So I've always felt the need to have a place instead of renting all the time. It's always a mini move and it's a pain in the ass. Yeah. So, but we did end up selling last year throughout summer just because,

you know how the market was. Like make some good money with it. It wasn't planned at all. So for right now, I have no house in California. We just were kind of, everything has changed. within the last few months in a good way like in a super cool way I think it was it was needed

for for me personally and yeah so life's life's been good though that's awesome I'm happy for you being uh going back to when you were started racing when you were three years old at what point in your life did you realize like oh should I can actually do this and be competitive and be a champion doing this yeah so I would say it probably started very early I mean the fact that I started riding and racing so early I just had you know crazy good throttle control and I could ride a dirt bike before I was able to ride it. But you got to break it down because throttle control. So, you know, like any kid, I mean, I even say, I have a son that's two in seven months,

two years and seven months. And, you know, when they first jump on it, all they want to do is hold it wide open, you know, and I, for whatever reason at that age, hold a throttle wide open and then whiskey thrown, they don't know how to break, right? And then they just go away. And the things, their legs are falling off the back and they're kind of getting drug ass around until they fall down. And actually, for me, I was just very, I had really good throttle control.

and I just knew how to ride a motorcycle. So then a little bit later on, five, six, seven, eight years, I was just racing a lot of local stuff, a little bit of Belgium and in the Netherlands because it was closed by. 10, 11 years old. No, that was earlier than that.

So then when 8, 9, 10 is when I started racing German championship. And with that came some of the European championships because the German championship was actually an international championship. So it wasn't just Germans riding there. We had people come that I actually would, in the World Championship would actually still race today. Like we've, we have this group of people that I've raced again since I was super little

that are still racing at this point, which is so rad to see because it's, it's so long ago when we were little kids, and now I'm almost 30. I'm turning 29 tomorrow, and I'm technically, you know, still racing some of those guys from back then. It's pretty cool to see.

You getting to race on your birthday sounds like an awesome thing. You said you're in 29? Yeah, first time ever. So my birthday used to be on, uh, when we raced in Vegas back in the day. But it was never on actual Saturday. when we were racing. So this time, is it called Stone or golden birthday or something like that?

Oh, yeah. Your golden birthday. Yeah. My 29th birthday on the 29th and I'm racing. So yeah. It's an automatic dub. Huh? Automatic dub. Automatic. Yeah. I mean, I would hope so. That would be badass. But just being in Nashville too, right? We don't come here that often. And my wife loves the city. And I do too. We've had some good times here. And it's just, it's a different, different vibe. I mean, it's like the, like a little New York in a way. It's just special. It's a, it's a uniquely growing city. Dude, like I've been here for almost 10 years now. And just watching the landscape with the skyscrapers and everything. I've changed so much.

It was over like a million people here now. But before that, it was like in the 500,000s. It just doubled. Yeah. In the last 10 years, it's wild. I mean, and you see it happening in a lot of areas. I mean, even where I'm from in like near Orlando area, we're on a little outskirt that used to be. That's why I essentially moved to Florida because everything was calmer.

There wasn't as much traffic as in California. I didn't have to drive as far. Taxes. Taxes. Yeah. And within the last few years, it just, it had exploited. loaded. Like it doesn't matter where we go. The area that used to be super calm and and relaxed, they all start getting super busy and it just changed a little bit. But at the

same time, it's also good for for businesses. Like all the city to grow and more people. And so I'm fine with it, but it's at the same time, it's a little sad just because it's not as mellow anymore. Yeah. What drew you to Florida just going from one coast to the other one to be near the water or did you ever consider a place like Nevada or Texas or an Arizona? I would assume big dirt biking areas? Yeah, not really just because Southern California and when I say that is

Corona and Tamika, so it's a little bit more inland from the beach. That's where all the test tracks used to be from all the teams. Honda, Suzuki, Kawi, like they all have their test tracks there and all the teams are based down there. So it makes sense. But when you go to like Nevada or any of those areas, there

isn't really anybody with tracks. I don't really think you have a whole lot of public tracks. And it just makes it a lot more difficult because So teams aren't there. There's hardly any tracks. You would have to have your own property. But for me, in Florida, there's so many private facilities. And I personally ride at the sandbox, which I have for the last, I don't know how many years.

What's a sandbox? It's just the name of the facility that I'm racing at. We have supercross tracks there, turn tracks just in case it rains. So we always have a track writable. And you basically just pay a yearly fee and you're able. So it's not a public track. You can't just, some guy can't just go there and pay and come and ride. So it's a private facility.

And we have a bunch of those throughout Florida. So that's why it made sense to go to Florida, switch coast, and you don't drive as far. I have 25 minutes to the track. It's always the same. And so anywhere in between, I mean, of course, you have people living around. That's where they grew up and they have their own track. But in general, for me, it was always California or Florida just because when it came to the riding side of things, it made the most sense. Take me through, like, how you train and get prepared to race and supercross.

I know it takes a lot of endurance. What kind of stuff do you do outside of just riding? You lift, do you sprint? Do you take supplements? Like, what's your regiment look like? So being a motocross, supercross racer, you kind of have to be an all-arounder. I think people, their ego is super high and don't know much about the sport. Always we have the stigma of like, oh, you just ride the bike.

Just get on a bike and ride. It couldn't be more far away, further away from the truth. I do a lot of cardio training. I do a lot of strength training just because our sport is so, that's called it, violent in a way, right? Like we're high heart raids throwing bikes from left to right with track conditions changing pretty much every lap and then you're battling 22 other guys. So there's just a lot of excitement going on. And I think from a fan perspective, especially, I think that's why everybody falls in love with it because there's so much going on at all times, right? And so yeah,

on the training side of things, we do a lot of cardio. It's an everyday, I personally say I work 24-7, 365 and I've always been the kind of guy, whether it's Christmas or Thanksgiving or whatever, that is never taken away from what the task at hand, which is, I've trained and done all this stuff for so long. Like, it's almost like a religion to me in a way, right? Like I feel like I fish out of water if I don't. You get into a routine and you kind of just don't want to break that routine.

Yeah, and honestly, my body feels like shit if I don't work out. So I just, I have fun with it, especially in my later stages of my career right now. I have embraced the whole thing a lot more. I do my own training schedule and I guess I'm just a lot more into it. Instead of back in the day, I was always eager to do it. everything 110% but at the same time you were always relying on somebody to tell you what to do so

I have taken it up on myself because I started traveling all over the country throughout the off season um racing in Australia and I raced on France and I went to Barcelona and all of that and uh yeah the training side of things I was the best the best judge of myself because you know it is when you fly to Australia it's a long-ass fly jet lag and everything so I was the best judge of what I'm able to do and um with that I started love I love doing intervals and like just kind of my body and be in the pain cave a little bit. You know, we kind of, I kind of live for that. So I was starting to mess around with all that. Exactly. Like you need to start to be comfortable, being uncomfortable. And that's pretty

much an all day, every day. Andrew Heuberman. You sound like he dialed in, huh? Totally. And yeah, so we pretty much do it all. And not to mention the writing. The thing is the weather too, right? Like in Florida, we live during the heat. I mean, summertime is absolutely miserable. So it is very easy to do too much and not be recovered for the weekend because, you know how it is when you work out and it's hot out. It is three times as hard than when it's cool out. So those are all things to take into consideration and find what's the best formula for you. When you're growing up and you're realizing your passion for racing, you're ripping around, having a good time? Was there a time, a transition period for you to find this love for discomfort

where you're like, oh, I actually have to lift and I have to run and I have to make sure I stay on top of my body to make sure that I can do it. Because you remember being a kid, I don't know how it is for dirt bike riders or motocross riders, but playing sports, when you're a kid, you don't even need to warm up. You just go out there and do whatever. And then eventually you get to an age where it's like, should I got to stretch a little bit? Then he goes, I got to get the cold tub a little bit. And so what was that, like, was that a tough process for you to learn?

Or was the eagerness always just there for you? I wouldn't say it was tough because I grew up with a lot of discipline naturally, but also my dad was quite old school. And the Germans seem very disciplined. Yeah, exactly. And not in a bad way, but just like, when I was a kid, I was born into it. And I wanted it to be. I just think I had a couple of friends around two that we would always train together.

And me and him, we went on a, I remember it to this day because we always make fun of it. We went on a two-hour run in the pouring rain. Like, I mean, we put trash bags over ourselves and just started running. But those are memories. Like, was it miserable? Absolutely. But did we have fun for sure? and did it teach us to like not be soft?

Absolutely, because I feel like nowadays people are way too soft, way too comfortable, right? And I just grew up with no matter what the weather is, there is really no bad weather, but you can dress right for it. And so no matter if it was freezing cold with a lot of ice, I was always running. And so I was very, I'm very appreciative of how I came up in the discipline. So I've always had that in me. Nobody really had to ever push me because I was slacking off. I was always, if anything, too eager.

in and put in a lot of enthusiasm. So, yeah, I still, to this day, I love it. And a lot of, I don't think a whole lot of people have discipline. It doesn't have to be with training or anything. It could be your diet or whatever it may be, going to your job and maybe slacken. I don't know, but I just think it's really fun messing with this kind of stuff and being uncomfortable. I just feel like it makes me grow.

It makes me be happy. You know, same with cold plungers. I'm sure you've done cold plunges. People hate cold plunges. I do it every single day for three minutes in the morning. Yeah, exactly. So I have one as well and as miserable as it is. But I just feel like after you've kind of had that suffering a little bit, it just there's something inside of us humans, I feel like that makes us feel like we've really accomplished something. And it makes it makes me feel good. So I love that type of stuff. There's a, there's a general that did a commencement speech at the University of Texas. And he talks about little victories. And like a little victory can be as small as making your bed. Because if your day is shit, at least you come home to a made bed. And like, that's what the ice tub is.

Totally. If you stare at it and you have all these excuses in your heads like, well, I'm sore. Hey, fuck it. I don't have to do it today. But the minute you get in, once you come out, you literally feel like a brand new man. Yeah. I think we all tend to kind of think about going the easy route of like, you know, like you said, not making the bed. But I feel like every time there's something where your brain says, hey, like, don't worry about it.

But then you do it anyway, which that's what discipline is. It overall makes for such a better life because I just feel like you're overall happier because if you do that once, then you'll do it again. And before you know, your entire place will be a mess, right? Right. Right. So yeah, it's fun to mess with that kind of stuff. And I think everything comes in phases, which is totally cool, you know. I think a lot of people go apes shit, go all the way, and then they get burnt out. And then they're just, they're terrible again for a couple of years, you know. And I'm a believer in, I keep a not a too high, not a too low, right? Like same when it comes to diet. I kind of, I'm a foodie, so I eat anything really. But I have learned to have fun with my job, enjoy the training side of things, even when it's maybe not the most fun. but the same with the diet and not be too hard on yourself. And I feel like that's just what has worked for me lately.

And I live happy. And that just shows in my writing and everything I do. I'm just overall more enthusiastic with whatever I do. You can definitely tell it with people their energy when they're happy or sad. Like even internally, you can feel it from that individual. You seem like a person that has a really good level head on their shoulders. And the way I've heard you talking the short amount of time, it seems like your dad put a massively influential part in your life of having this type of success.

Yeah, absolutely. And all my family did because that all what's cool about the sport We have a very wide range Of viewers, you know And fans, you know, from all the way, from newborns till elderly

So It I totally just forgot what I was What I was No, no, don't worry about that We were talking about your family Yeah, your family sport My mom, you know, she was clean the roll-offs back in the day

So when we ride and it's dirty And it's raining on whatever We ride roll-off so you can pull your roll off and you get clear vision. Well, back in the day, we didn't have any money. Roll off on the goggles and you pull it off. Yep, yep, exactly. You can pull it off.

That's a tear off or a roll off. We have these little canisters on the side. And basically when we pull it, we pull the clear film from one side to the other, so we always have clear vision. Yeah. But my mom cleaned those back in the day and rolled them back up because we didn't really have any money to be, you know, buying new stuff all the time. And it's an expensive sport, right?

Like to ride motocross, you have to afford the bike. You have to be able to keep up with the maintenance. Yeah. It's a lot easier to buy a ball or a bat, you know, that's sure. But I think nowadays, you know, we're lucky that this whole e-bike thing, right? It's like electric bikes. Yeah. Big controversy, you know, some people love it.

Some people hate it. What I think is great for little dudes is they can ride in any yard. It doesn't make any noise. So even for my son right now, he's just been riding a stay-sick bike. And it's like a mountain bike, but electric for little kids. And it's so rad. It just opens up, I think, a whole new. era and I think people from more suburbs or city type living, they can end up getting into that.

Yeah. And it's a sport expensive. Yeah, it is. But at the same time, when you love it, you just, you love it. You go after it, right? Yeah. Passion seems to find a way. Totally. Yeah. When you brought, you brought up like changing of bikes. When you're younger and you, obviously, you were riding the same bike as you were when you're three years old, when you, as a kind of used to be rider, big fan of everything. How was the transition for you going like up from bike to bike? Like, what kind of process does that take to like learn the new torque and the speed and the throttle and all that?

So that was a thing that came supernatural to me. And it's funny. We talk about that because for me personally, I've always switched to the bigger bike at a super early age when I was actually way too small. So I always, I don't know what we're going to call it level up. But I had the luxury of jumping on all kinds of different bikes when I was literally this tall. And for whatever reason, I just knew how to do the color.

Like, because once you start rolling, I didn't really need my legs, right? I was riding around. So somebody had to hold you up while you got going and once he went on going. And you know what I think the ultimate factor is of success too is that I had fun with everything that I did. Like being a little kid, riding bigger bikes that you're technically not supposed to ride. So I had the luxury of riding all these different bikes and playing around with the sport that I was going to pursue. And I think that's what got me so skilled because I was constantly on them. And it doesn't even have to be a dirt bike, but also bicycles.

I grew up riding BMX and dirt jumpers and all this kind of stuff. and I was constantly on it. So I think with anything, it's learning by doing, and I just did it so much that I just, I got super skilled at it and, you know, rain or shine, I was out there. Was there ever one, like, jump up that was difficult? Or was it all pretty seamless for you? No, I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't always easy.

Before I turned pro, it just, I feel like I kind of had a little bit of a dip down because I only really started training, training, and this is still at a young age, but I turned pro when I was 15. So I had to start when I was 14, and I really prepared myself for starting to race to world championship. And there was that transition before because I was technically, even at this point, I was still a kid. And between, let's say, 11, 12, 13, 14, right in between there, I wasn't really training, but I was writing and just having fun. You know, if my friends went into town and went to the public pool or whatever, I went with them, you know. And then I race just for fun, but I think a lot of people at that age, they already put in that

that little bit of extra and training and this and that. So there was a time where I was standing still a little bit and some other guys came, became fast and they were kind of like on my level, but then I wasn't really training yet. So once I started racing GPs, I really started putting in some hours and some discipline and hard work over a few months. I was working still and really closely with Red Bull. And so once I started training, I mean, I jumped from here to here. just made a huge step and then everybody was like, whoa, what happened to this kid, you know? Yeah. And so, yeah, I was finally starting to put in work and then I just went after it. And at that young age, I was racing people that are 20, you know, 20, 21, 22, 23. So their body, yeah,

their body is just so much more developed, right? And there's good and bad because as a young kid, you know how it is. You don't really feel that much. Like, if you have, you don't have any nagging pain or, like, you don't get that tired. You just have a whole different feeling. I think as you get older, you get more in tune with your body, so you start noticing all these little things are getting tired or you get hot. But at the same time, their bikes were, uh, their bodies were a lot fitter and bigger and stronger and more weight. Yeah. And, you know, I was tiny at that point still and like a, like a, like a scrawny little kid. And I was kind of late too with puberty. So I was full baby face and everything. And it was, it was nuts. It was such a rat time. Now they're

ripping around a 21 year old to the baby face. Not even hit puberty yet. Yeah. It was, it was a wild time. And that was really my, I don't want to say come up, but like once I started racing professionally, like I started doing really good at a really young age. And I was with factory Suzuki back then. Got big time held from Japan. And we were based together with that, that was on a 250. So I was still riding the smaller bikes. And the 450 is the very top elite bike.

And that was basically all one thing. So I got to be able to be around with those guys that have raced the GPs on the top level for many years already. So I was able to learn from them. I was just, I surrounded myself with people that were at that very, very top level and that allowed me to latch on. And, you know, essentially when I became their age, I just took it to another level when it came to speed and technique and finding all these little tents and hundreds that we're really fighting for nowadays. It seems like such a detailed sport. Like motocross to me seems like kind of in a similar way like UFC. Like if you watch it from a blind eye like first time turning it on, you're like, oh, it just seems like guys are just riding or guys are just fighting in the UFC.

And then as you pay more attention to it, there's so many minute details. Yeah. And when you're looking at tracks, there's obviously like, you know, there's larger tracks, smaller tracks, like more technical tracks. What for you is like something that you're like, oh, I got to make sure and be on my P's and Q's. Are there different like tips you give yourself? Like, all right, this berm, this way. I make sure to shift into this gear. Like, kind of take me through.

Like, let's just use Nashville, for instance. and then contrast that to another one that's maybe a little bit different. Well, that's the crazy part about the sport. It is just never the same, you know? Baseball field, football field. Of course, there can be rain and everything, but it's grass and it's flat.

53 and a third wide. It's 120 yards long. You kind of have the same circumstances all the time. Well, for us, you know, depending on what state we go to, all the track, that's soil, the weather, everything's different. And not to mention, with our bikes,

there's a lot of moving parts, right? So we test suspension. We test motor stuff. We test brakes. We test clutches. because everything that you change on a dirt bike, there's so many moving parts. It changes on all other ends as well, right?

Motor affects suspension. Suspension affects me, how comfortable I am on the bike. And there's just so, it's a never-ending story. It really is a never-ending story. If you were to be a runner long-distance sprint, whatever, you have your pair of shoes that you dial in in and then you're good to go. It's really just how much power output you do.

But with cars and motorcycles, motor GP, whatever it is, There's so many. And you change something a millimeter, like a tiny little bit. It all changes the weight bias on the bike and the CG wave, which is the center gravity weight. You know, depending on where the weight sits on the bike, everybody's different. Every bike has different measurements. So they all ride different. So we do the sport so often and morning till night that we pay attention and we feel everything that we change.

And at the same time, you're opening a whole other can of worms, you know. It's sometimes you chase your tail. Yeah. I really do. And then when it comes to the tracks, we race outdoor stadium. indoor stadiums, in hot weather, and the track gets super dry, and they do the best they can to keep the track the best that they can, but it's always different.

Sometimes we race on hard pack. Last weekend was an absolute mutter while we practiced all day on perfect conditions. It was really rocky last week, so it's constantly changing. And our bikes, you know, we're so heavy and we're so many riders, and because the soil can get really soft, the ruts on the takeoffs, the holes, like it's never the same, you know, and it can catch you off guard really quick. So it is important that you are really sharp and really in the moment for the time that you're on a dirt bike.

With all the minute, minute details, you're talking about like center of gravity and all this and you change one thing. It changes a whole bunch of other things. The more you ride, obviously, the more aware you become of everything around you, your clutch, your suspension, all that. Is there ever a point or has there been a point in your career where it's like you maybe became too aware to the point where you're overthinking it a little bit? Like maybe you wiped out or something like that.

You're like, well, it's because of you, because we all, anytime I've ever been injured in football, I've always found this defense mechanism to be like, well, the reason why I got hurt is because X, Y, and Z, I did this, this and this wrong. And if I don't do that again, it's good. But then when you come back from an injury or anything like that, it's like, man, what if this is off? What if this is off? And you kind of tend to overthink it a little bit.

I'm doing like I'm running on dirt. What if I tend to overthink a little bit like I'm playing football? Has that ever happened to you? Absolutely. It happens to all of us at some point, 100%. I think the best thing that you can do when you find yourself getting lost, as much, much as you can, and I've done that multiple times, I start over stock bikes, you know, out of the box. The way that each and every bike is made, you know, they have the test riders in

Japan, or depending on where your bike's made from, right? And I've always been a believer in OEM stock bikes out of the box. They are pretty solid, consumer friendly, right? And then from there, you've got to figure out what the problem is. Sometimes it could be a measurement, you know, triple clamps where your handlebars are attached to. You can, you can rake, those out or bring it closer to you and all this kind of stuff. And sometimes it's just material. You know, some people have titanium bolts. Some have steel. Like there's all different materials. And every single different material has a different compound and feels different, right? So like titanium is super hard and super stiff. And it can create a lot of harshness in your hand. So it's very easy to

get confused. And, you know, all the more important that you work with with a good team because in the end it's not just my brain. If every, if we're all collaborating and it works out, we can take the comments and the knowledge that I've gotten over these last few years with the right changes, um, with a good team behind you, you know, but at the same time, it doesn't always work that way, you know, and, um, sometimes we, I can do the best training I possibly can and be super far off with my bike and you're just not winning. You know, you're not there and sound, when you're getting injured or yeah, you can get injured. Yeah, it's, uh, man it's it's so hard but it makes it so fun yeah it's i mean it's a reason why like if everybody

could do it everyone would yeah if it was easy what's a phrase if it was easy everyone would do it yeah thank god i landed that plane when you're like um before we we uh you came in here mitch's brother whose name's escaping me right now he's with us on the bus he uh showed me a clip it was it 2016 2017 and you went off a jump and you landed like at the like before the the landing of another jump and obviously just filleted your arm, had multiple surgeries. What was like, just talk me through how one, why that happened. We'll get to the rest later, but why? Like, why did that happen in your expert opinion of how you ended up in that situation?

Yeah. So, um, there's a lot of different things to look at during that time, which we've in the, you know, we've, we've, we've had that happen more often. But that was, it was a very wet time in California. We just gotten a lot of rain. And like I said, with conditions changing all the time, well, the transitions between all the jumps before we take off. They're really soft and soggy and just also inconsistent, right?

And then once we started racing, I did basically everything perfectly, but my suspension completely compressed on the bottom of the jump. And it was just Ged out. And by G'd out, I mean, when we keep hitting it over and over, the hole gets kind of deeper, deeper, deeper, deeper, deeper. And my suspension essentially bottomed out and rebound it. And just... Pulls your nose forward.

Exactly. And not just that. I think I drug my heel. and it ripped my feet off. So as soon as I started going forward, basically doing a Superman, I mean, I have no control at that point anymore, right? I tried to hang on as long as I can

to just, at least somewhat just straighten my body out a little bit, but I mean, I absolutely faced into the... Brother, it was a tough thing to watch. Yeah. I mean, you went through it. I mean, right now, like, I can watch it over and over. I've never really had a problem watching it. Yeah.

Even right after it happened? Like, you're in the hospital? Um, I don't really remember. Honestly, the time after was super fuzzy for me because I was in the hospital for almost, almost four weeks and I was on a lot of medication and it scared me a little bit, all the medication stuff, but they're telling me that I'm nowhere near what people normally take. So, but anyway, you know, between long-lasting morphine and oxia, what dilated, whatever they

give you, you know what I mean? Is I literally, I don't really remember that much shortly after. There's little highlights here and there, but I was in Vale, Colorado in the Stetman Clinic, which, thank God, because Dr. Viola, you know, my arm was post. I mean, absolutely. I dislocated and compound fractured my radial head on my elbow right here. And then my wrist... For those you listening, compound fracture means bone out of the skin.

Bone out of the skin. My wrist as well. My radius right here. My ulna was compounded. There was a little ball. Yep. Yep. Correct right here.

And I actually have quite a bit of nerve damage, which it doesn't bother. It's just numb skin, you know? It doesn't feel that comfortable. But dislocated... Is that from... That's from the bone coming out, right? It tears nerve endings as it comes out of the skin. Exactly.

And sometimes it's not like I can do everything. My movement is good, but it's just a skin that's a little irritated, I guess. That's child's play. That doesn't really bother me. But I think the biggest thing was is the compartment syndrome, right? After from the impact, so my arm started swelling up. Yeah, what does compartment syndrome is from a really heavy impact or trauma. And then your muscle starts swelling and basically cuts off the blood supply.

And when that happens and your muscle starts dying. And once your muscle's dead, you can't, you amputate your arms. So I was like right on that edge. where that could have happened. So I ended up getting surgery and because my wrist, everything was sandpaper. Like it was just shattered into a million pieces.

Like dust. But when you're talking about essentially your body making its own little tourniquet to cut off the blood supply. Pretty much, exactly. How does that decision be made like the surgery, amputation?

Like, because you're obviously, I'm assuming you got concussed in that thing too. No, my head was fully clear. You were fully conscious? Never out, never nothing.

Had to be in shock. You know what the crazy part is that besides, this and down, I had zero pain, no nothing. No way. I wasn't even sore. I mean, granted, maybe I don't know if I was sore because that was taken off all my attention, but it was literally elbowed down to my finger or to my wrist.

Other than that, I was completely fine, nothing, which is crazy because that impact, you know, it could, I mean, it could have been shoulder, my chest, my sternum, just because it's like facing a wall, right? And, you know, not all crashes are always, and injuries are always that bad. You know, I've broken both of my wrists before and gotten surgery on it, but not to this extent, you know, like you're out for a couple months or whatever. And that's still heavy, but this was a whole nut. This was a career-ending injury, really.

Yeah. And that was, so when I was in the hospital surgery was done, that I completely kind of like dislodged myself from the sport a little bit because it was so far away, if I was ever going to be able to ride a racing in. It was so far away. And I just, I kind of just started, even though I was in the hospital, I just started enjoying that being there comfortable and like am I going to be able to race? I don't know. So I might as well like I started I started unfollowing everybody from the sport just like it's a sport that I love.

And I kind of like I was a little mad and like there was so many unknown questions. I'm just like, man, I need to like I need to get away a little bit. You know, my parents came over and my parents have been separated for a long time. But it was the first time in a long time that like we all felt like a family again, you know, they came over and they were in Germany. So my entire family is in Germany. So when that happened, my wife, of course, was constantly in contact with them. But it was just a really heavy time of a lot of information. And I hired my own therapist over two years. I did my own therapy. Like, I was constantly, once I was able to, I was constantly moving my skin to just get sensation and just started moving that appropriate perception, yeah, figure out like,

like, your brain has waves that basically tell your arms and legs where to go. And by touching it and feeling it, maybe even putting tape on it sometimes, it'll allow that proprioception to come back. actually, I laid in the grass for a little bit and started listening to David Gagins. That's kind of like when I found out about David Gaggins. Oh, yeah, dude. You know, I think he lives in Brentwood. He lives like right up the road. Oh, really?

Yeah, I didn't know that. I heard. I don't know. Don't fact check me on that. Anyway, well, I started listening to his podcast back then. And that's when he was kind of just starting to like become noticed. And I'm like, I'm going to listen to this guy. And I, he's kind of like the one that made me, I flipped the switch, like, where I'm, I'm

freaking doing this. And I just started hammering away. basically didn't give myself any room for air. I told myself I was going to come back and be the best writer in the world. And just every single day, just grind it towards it, right? I was at super early, actually. I wish I would have waited with that a little bit. I started working out again.

And like, I had a stairmaster in my house with my arm up in the air. And I was just walking for hours on the stairmaster. And I'm like, why did I even do that? Because I was a year out from racing, you know what I mean? But at the same time, I had to keep myself busy a little bit. I wish I would have taken that time to, like, maybe not work out and kind of like actually take it as like, hey, maybe let's rest a little bit, you know, and let this thing do its thing. But, yeah, I just, I started working full speed ahead. And I think it came with some other problems too, you know.

I'm not the best writer in the world. But I feel like the reason I am back at the top level is because I charged after my dream pretty much full speed, hiring my own physical therapist. And even at night, I was just constantly moving it. You know, elbow is a pain in the ass. You get a range of motion back. Like, my elbow, I still can't lock it out and my wrists are super stiff. But, you can't get full extension. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's good now because I have just healed over years.

Like, I kid you not, three years later. And how many surgeries? I think on my left arm was 11 or 12. There were eight in the first three weeks. I mean, it was just constant. And, yeah, I backed it up a year later with destroying my right hand. And that was almost a career-ending injury, too. So there were just a couple of years of, like,

shit going on, you know what I mean? And then it's been a really tough road ever since, but I'm in a good spot now and I'm starting to get older too. But I'm having more fun now than I've had in a long, long time. And that's ultimately what it's all about. Right. When you say at the end of that sentence, I'm getting a little older too. Is there a piece of you? Because anybody who's able to play a professional sport, whatever category it is, the end always comes for them. Have you ever put that in your mind? Because at one point in our life, Because all you thought about was I'm going to do this forever. All I thought about was I'm going to do football forever.

But at some point it comes to get us all. Like father time comes and gets us. What are, you know, from a transition standpoint, not saying it's going to happen anytime soon, but have you put any thought into that? Yeah, I mean, sometimes. So retirement used to always sound so far away. I'm turning 29 tomorrow. So I'm not old by any means.

But for our sport, a lot of the great. Once you hit 30, it's pretty much over. Yeah. I mean, all of us. We're kind of changing the stigma around the sport a little bit because everybody before us, the great, they stopped at 27. which is super early. But there's just a lot of,

there was a lot of stuff going on with over training and just getting burnt out and basically being over it. And I think we have all kind of tried to, uh, steer away from that and prolong our career. Because if I'm being honest, like I'm a little afraid of retirement.

Not going to lie. Yeah. That's a totally normal thing to feel. In general, I'm a busy body and I have a lot of hobbies and all of this. But at the same time, I've done this my entire life and I'm just super scared of falling into a, um,

just have a big hole somewhere, you know, that this sport gets tough and does that, do I feel like sometimes I want to be done with it? Absolutely. But then to actually really pull the plug is a whole other story. But that all sounded so far away. But now, like last year, you know, I wasn't, I was in a really shit spot, you know, with my health and just even menthol, like I was so burnt out on everything. And been with the same team for six years. That wasn't working anymore by any means.

And I made a huge change and followed my heart, honestly. Like, big time move. I'm going with a progressive XR Suzuki team. The Pipes family, they have taken me in and we have worked full speed ahead. We were basically underdogs coming in to the season and we ended up pulling off. Up until now, we have a few podiums and we have one big win in Indianapolis. Yeah. And it was a lot of work, but my entire life changed from, I feel like, being stagnant and just standing in the same spot and being unhappy.

Pulling a big move and following my gut and just working towards it and kind of like just restarting. my career a little bit and my eager and just kind of learn how to how to just be badass again and I'm nowhere near where I want to be but we we had it tough because it was the season was about to start I made the switch and I had three weeks on the bike and we had to do a lot of work to the bike and develop it more and more and more we're the only bike with a kickstart out there which is kind of cool we've taken I've taken full advantage of it I have fun with this old school it's old school but you know I sometimes get made fun of in the beginning of the season when I was kicking my bike because I stalled like I was bumming around on the track and I stalled it on the

side like a dumbass right and I'm trying to find neutral and at that point I was still pretty new to the kickstart again but I'm like what's so funny like we have kickstarted bikes for longer than we have electric started it you know what I mean so I've just taken advantage of the situation and we have a kickstarted there's no denying it and I have fun with it so I make fun of myself we chromed out my Kickstarter at one point just to highlight it you know what I mean and people love it like we the support that we've gotten from the fans each and every weekend is so rad to see because it's totally different. We're pretty much privateer team and we run a lot of stock parts with sponsors, of course, but we're doing our own thing and we're all pulling

on the same string and we do whatever is best for the bike. And for a rider, that's all you want. I've been more on bad bikes in my career than I've been on really good bikes. And now, simply because of when you're with factory teams, it's a huge ego and you're always working in a little box and we tend to venture out left and right throw the kitchen sink at the bike and that's the only reason why we are where we are because that's how we found out a lot of things and we started learning and yeah we're just we're just all working in the same direction and it's such a breath of fresh air yeah you absolutely it seems like a calming feeling for you yeah it is yeah because i'm calm when we're at least doing whatever we can to improve and then if it's not

on our card, so be it, but we tried anything and everything, you know, and not just me personally, but everybody else on the team. So, yeah, that's, that's all I want. You know, results are all winning is, of course, I want to win, but I've had great rides or races where I rode better and, you know, finished on a podium, a third or whatever, and not won, but wrote a lot better. And I, and I'm content with that because sometimes you, shits out of your control. You go down on the start, you come back, and you can finish a fourth, but if that's really important for, you know, the championship, you're not on the podium, but you had a hell of a ride. That's what I base my feelings off of, you know, how much effort I and the team I put in.

That's awesome. When I first got this opportunity, Mitch reached out about Supercross, and they were giving us an awesome opportunity to speak with you, and they're telling me you're a fan favorite. How does that feel to kind of be the face of a massive sport and know that, like, fans have your back wherever you're going? It's the coolest thing ever. I mean, I was in route to get a lot of championships, but it just with this injury and it just unfortunately didn't happen the way we planned. And I'm on content with it. I'm fine with it.

I think we get thrown at us only what we can handle and even though it gets tough at times, right? But I guess I don't speak that about myself, but if people say that I'm one of the fan favorites, I'm honored, honestly. During this injury too, I've gotten so many messages of me helping people. Because I think that was right before I started like really kicking ass and what I wanted, even though the odds were stacked against me. And it was a situation that I could be super bummed about and just fizzled down the drain and make nothing out of it. But I decided not to.

And it helped so many other people that were in a shit situation as well. So even just that alone, you know, it made it all worth it. And I'm honestly just being myself. I've always been a kid that has been very open. I talk to anybody. I hang out with anybody. I'm an extrovert, actually. So it made things a lot easier just because I can interact with fans.

And, of course, when it comes to the writing side of things, you know, I like to have fun, throw whips, do knack-knacks. But race at the very, very top level at the same time and just do cool shit. Like, I feel like everybody, or a lot of people tend to go like robots, you know, and this sport. Like, it consumes all of us. Don't get me wrong. But I tend to have fun and do some freestyle stuff for you. riding and hang out with people from, from, that are more in the freestyle world and just entertain my people, Instagram followers and everything. But it comes naturally to me. I have fun

doing that. So when I can offer stuff to them and I get a lot of good feedback on it, it's super rad. It's a vulnerable place being able to put yourself, especially on Instagram, sharing your story of being hurt, working through that, showing your process. But a lot of good things, yeah, that's amazing. It's being transparent and especially in the world we live in today is one the hardest things to do because so many people via social media want to take advantage of your vulnerability. So freeing though. Yeah.

It really is because once you just live out there, there's really no skeletons. There's no one in the back room knocking on the door saying, hey, the truth's here. You're telling everybody the truth. You're telling everybody how you actually feel good or bad. It makes you feel a whole lot better. I feel like people, or at least me, I get a lot more uncomfortable if I have shit piled up in me and I don't talk about it. Like I'm- And people can feel that too.

Yeah. And especially problems. And it didn't used to be like that, but at some point I did. when I talk to my friends or whatever, like I'm open about when people struggle because I've been uncomfortable at times because it was all new to me, like just being uncomfortable and just mentally and just not in the right place. And it's not a fun spot to be. And so once I, once I started opening up to people and it just when people know, and it doesn't have to be strangers or anything, but like at least people around you when they know what, how you feel and, and everything,

it just made it feel like they understand. You're just not alone, right? So I don't know. I tend to be more of an open book and in the end, people try to hide and train and, you know, I'm like, well, do the freaking same thing. I just have fun with it. I post my workout, you know, whatever I do. And I'm like, if people want to follow it, not everything works for everybody the same way, you know what I mean? So I've just, I've taken that ego down and I've just started to enjoy it and let people in and people are appreciative. And it's cool. That's awesome, man. I know, I know we're probably running out of time here, but I have one more question. If I am three, years old getting into dirt bikes and I wanted to see a blueprint of how to race in Supercross.

What is the process look like for the individual just learning out about Supercross and the process of how to get from an amateur to become at the spot you are now? Yeah, so I think it all has to start with fun and games. I think you can't force it or I wouldn't want to force it. My son loves bikes of any kind. and for us it all started off as fun and games and what's cool about and it's a little bit I guess the amateurs here I didn't really grow up racing amateurs in the U.S. I know I've raced Loretta Lins which is the biggest amateur race there is every single year

and it's about a week's worth of racing it's kind of like the Olympics in a way a week worth of racing from 50 Cs meaning little dudes to 30 plus and yeah mini Olympics Florida. That was one of my first ones that I ever went to in the U.S. But it all started as funning games for me as a kid. And I think what my parents loved is the camping side of things, us going to the races. And I met so many friends. And we were not on our iPads or playing PlayStation. We were out building jumps. And it all started as that. And, you know, as I got better and better, we, you start local. You venture out. And before you know it, if that's what you want to do, you, you hit some of the big time

amateur championships, I guess, which is mini Olympics in Florida and Loretta Lince is I think everybody that has won titles here in the U.S.

they have gone through the amateur races like that. That's awesome. But fun. That's all I can say is. Dude,

no doubt. It was truly my first passion in life. Yeah. Just getting on a dirt bike and riding. And we tend to forget too, right?

Like when things get tough, especially once you do become pro and everything and then sometimes you're like, man, like you're more you know, he's just uncomfortable and it doesn't feel right. But I have learned to let go of some things and really focus on the task at hand and

be engaged in the sport and find the fun again. And just that way you alleviate pressure off of yourself. And you start doing better. So I think the biggest thing is you've got to start with it being fun. I appreciate you coming on, man. This has been awesome. Thank you. It's been great to meet you.

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