Bussin' With The Boys - Will Compton's Daughter Has Near Death Experience + Drinking Your Wife's Breast Milk
Episode Date: June 25, 2025Former NFL Linebacker (10 years) Will Compton presents a Bussin With The Boys production, For The Dads! Along side future dad, Sherman Young, Will a father of two knows how hard the job of a father ca...n be. Thus he created a safe space for dads to come together and talk about the insane shit that we see and deal with every day. With Sherman's first born just 2 weeks away, Will Compton is attempting to show him the ropes and call all dads together to join in a collective conversation for us to vent and speak candidly about the mental load and tasks we take on as dads. Will starts off by telling an unreal story about his daughter nearly choking to death on a coin. Will opens up to Sherman about an argument he had with his wife during a vacation in NYC. (They solved it with Will calling his wife mid-episode to apologize!) The boys then Crack A Cold Bud Light over the small victory of Will's wife forgiving him and Sherman starting to read Strong Fathers, Strong Daughters. Two dads calls in to ask Will a hard hitting question and the other to share a dad-win. Will wraps it all up with a "Lesson of the Week" from The Daily Dad. Check out the merch at BWTB.com! ..and as always BIG HUGS and TINY KISSES! TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 00:00 - Intro 02:12 - Episode Begins 06:03 - Shoutout Our Listeners 14:46 - Will's Daughter Has Near Death Experience 31:40 - Sherman's Wife Doesn't Wanna Talk Ball 38:16 - Will Fights A Losing Battle With His Wife 53:03 - Will Calls His Wife To Apologize 55:57 - Will Battles Delayed Flights And Blowouts 1:01:14 - Sherman's Take On Strong Fathers, Strong Daughters 1:10:29 - Sherman Wants To Take An 8wk Old To A CFB Game 1:17:06 - Will and Sherman's Dad Hacks & Survival Kit Tools 1:21:32 - Drinking Breast Milk To Bulk Up 1:31:39 - Dad Call-Ins 1:54:43 - Will's Lesson Of The Week 2:07:20 - Credits (Listener Submitted Dad Content)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I've been in Chicago and New York this past week. Right now, it is currently, as you're watching
this, it's Wednesday morning. And again, I know I said in the intro.
but for the dads, the older generation, the baby boomers who don't quite have everything figured
out electronically, please make sure you are subscribed to this channel on YouTube, Bust with the Boys.
And again, we will be kicking off. We will have a channel of our own here in July coming up.
So be on the lookout for that. We will be, we'll be teeing it up to you, laying it up to you as
easily as possible to make the transition. Because again, I know there are a lot of older dads that
listen. And on that note, I will say being in the airport at LaGuardia, there were a couple
dad's who came up and were just like, hey man, love the new show.
Are you serious?
Yes, dude.
I'm sitting there, you know, I'm whipping around the little double stroller.
Who knows the times they called me.
I know one gentleman caught me in a spot where I'm just trying to make to the bathroom
and just try to find, are we good?
Are we good on audio?
Yeah.
Or I'm just trying to find the bathroom.
Take a little quick, you know, quick dad timeout.
Got one of the little kiddos with me and he just wanted to come over.
He's like, hey, man, don't want anything.
I just want to dab you up.
I just say, I love the new show.
He was wearing like a dad hat.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
It looked like a baby boomer.
So that fired me up.
Oh, really?
Yes, dude.
Fired me up.
Fired me up.
It's like in his 60s?
I don't want to put that on him.
50s?
Yeah, we'll just say 50s.
He looked good.
He looked good for his age.
Come on.
He looked good for his age.
That's exciting.
Yeah.
But right now, I know you guys said you guys are listening on Wednesday morning.
Again, get the trash cans out to the curb.
We are shooting this.
It is 930 on Sunday.
I landed.
We had hopes and dreams of shooting this episode, probably four, because we have a big week ahead of us.
We have a lot of interviews that we're doing for Tideon, you for Bustin with the boys, so we needed to get the four the dads pot in early.
Crazy week.
I hit the boys up saying, hey, we're sitting on the tarmac right now.
We are delayed a couple hours, so didn't quite make it in.
It's been hell.
I'm just going to kick it off.
It's been hell.
Number one, New York is overrated.
We had fun.
We made memories.
We had fun.
But I feel like I just got back from another military tour, just being with the family, we were staying at the Hoxton, and we were in like a 400 square foot hotel room where there's like no extra space.
There's no closets, our bags are everywhere.
When you have a couple kiddos, parents out there know this.
You'll know this too, but each kid kind of has a bag of their own because there's so many things that you have to pack for a seven-month-old.
There's so many things you have to pack for the three-year-old.
Things you have to pack for yourself.
Your wife's got every outfit because she was visiting a friend.
friend out there in New York. So there's dinners. She had stuff for work out there. So she's got a
plethora of outfits that she had. So we had a lot of luggage. It was pretty much laid out,
utilizing as much space as possible in this small-ass hotel room. That was a prison at times,
which we can get into. But it's been a long week. It's been a long week. It's been a long weekend.
It was fun being at Barstool H.Q. last week in Chicago. New York had some fun moments.
Yeah. Two and O on the dozen.
Yes, 2 and 0 on Dozen Trivia.
We made it to the Final 4.
I'll be out in Boston this Thursday.
That'll be live stream on Barstool's YouTube channel.
But the Booze Ponies are, we're coming.
We're 2 and O, we're coming.
I love me some Dana beers.
Yeah.
Just shameless shout out.
Dude, love some Dana beers.
Love Fidelberg.
Love Fidelberg.
If you haven't checked out tires, go check out Tire Season 2.
That's no free shout-out to the boy, Shane Gillis.
But Fidelberg made a little appearance on episode 6.
And crushed it.
crushed it with Vince Vaughn.
And Shane Gillis.
Yeah, yeah.
But a lot of good dad stories.
I'm glad you guys are tuned in with us.
And again, love all the comments that you guys are leaving.
I was kind of just scanning through them.
I love that you guys were just like, fuck it, dude.
Go over an hour if you guys have to.
We don't care.
I saw one comment.
It's like, hey, you guys' hopes of going under an hour are gone.
Sherman, he now has a spotlight.
I'm the problem.
Yeah, yeah.
Shorm's got the spotlight.
Like there's no way you two are ever going to go under an hour.
But that's a good thing.
He's not wrong.
Yeah.
That's a good thing.
But just scanning through these comments, A-Rock 86.
Shout at you.
Really appreciate you.
Boys for featuring me.
Shout-out, no free shout-out for the dads.
Will and Sherm, you guys are the goats.
Thank you for a solid future dad advice and appreciate recognition for my wife.
And I's Journey, big hugs, tiny kisses.
Again, just a little warning down at the screen.
This is not an expert father show.
Or just a couple of dads just talking shop.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here we go. Mark Arnett 6477. Pro tip for Sherm, dad of a 10-year-old girl and
an 8-year-old boy, leave the tags on all the clothes until the day they put them on. So when they
outgrow it, before they actually wear it, you can just go swap it out at the store for the next
size up. That is a hell of a comment. That's actually something you can crack a cold one to.
That's something you can crack a cold one to. No free shout-outs to Bud Light. And on the voicemails,
I was like we'll get into the call-in segments later in this show.
But Scherm texted me last week or he messaged me last week saying the voicemail thing filled up.
We had to take the line off for a moment.
Yeah.
Because it was like 300 voicemails.
Yes.
And yeah, we had to shut it down, get them off into a Dropbox file so that way you can reopen up the line.
There's already 87 more.
Keep calling in.
We're going to, I don't know if we're ever going to figure out a way to get everybody's voicemail heard,
but we're going to try to integrate
maybe more than just one or two.
So if you have a motherfucked moment,
if you have a crack, a cold one two moment,
if you have a quote or a theme
or something that you've leaned on recently
or a lesson that you've liked,
you can share that with us
if you just want to vent with us.
Different ways we might fit them into our segments
other than just a hotline moment
to where we only share one or two
because I know there's a lot of great voicemails out there.
We would love to get to all of them.
It's a great problem to have.
It also pained me,
about all the voicemails coming in because I'm like, damn, I wish we could feature,
you wish you could feature all of them.
When you have that many, chef, we've highlighted a bunches like our intern for this show,
but when you have that many voicemails, this guy's cutting up clips.
We got two other interns just fishing through, offloading all of these voicemails into Dropbox.
They're listening to the voicemails as they do that so they can categorize the voicemails.
Yeah.
It's truly like Santa's workshop and the elves are just like doing the damn thing.
You say elves, but we have one and it's chef.
Yeah, we have one.
And he's having to also be like, hey, if you guys can jump in here because there's
270 of these things.
I got cut up these clips.
He's on intern.
He's on intern brain like, hey, I'm working on the show, working maybe possibly for a job.
He's trying to do everything possible to make sure this thing's right.
Chef, we appreciate you for being here.
930 on a Sunday night.
Unpaid here on a Sunday night.
Unpaid.
Unpaid here on a Sunday night.
Shout out the boy chef.
We did buy him dinner though.
I will say that.
We bought him dinner.
Nice.
Good.
We got him dinner.
What was the other thing?
We were talking about, oh, voicemails.
The streets are saying, and I'll pitch this to you, I'll pitch this to the viewers.
But the streets are saying it could be fun every five episodes if we did a strictly call-in episode.
That's just an idea.
We're not saying it's going to be official.
a thing, maybe let us know in the comments.
If people, if we get a, I won't say overwhelming,
but if we get a solid response and people just put,
need a call in episode,
if they just have that in all caps.
Yeah.
We have enough of them.
I think that is where you start taking into account,
hey, this could be, this could be fun.
I'm talking like 50 of those.
Yeah, 50 would be a great number.
50 would be a really,
50'd be a great number where it's like, okay,
guaranteed, we'll do it.
Yeah.
Because again, we want this show to be about embracing.
fatherhood, building community, being all about the badass dads out there, just embracing the
sock and wanting to be a part of it.
And when, yes, had some great, if we're going on just like people, comments, all that stuff,
had a buddy from high school, who was a girl dad, reach out to me.
We talk pretty regularly, but just via text, sent a really nice text about the show that
he was loving it, but said he sent it around to a bunch of.
of his dad friends and one of them hit him back, like two hours later said, just listen to both
the episodes.
That is awesome.
Which got me gas.
I've had guys being like, hey, I'm not even a dad, but it fires me up to be one one day
just from listening to the show.
So it's like there are people out there watching and listening that aren't even in parenthood
right now.
And one thing, that's also a great reminder because you said your boy was sharing it with
his dads.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Whenever we do stand up our next, whenever we do stand up this channel for the dads or whether
We have it on both YouTube and audio, no matter what it is, for this show to get a little bit more awareness, this will be we need the organic growth from the dads out there, sharing it in your group chats, letting other dads know.
I saw, a matter of fact, I don't have the comment pulled up, but when I was scanning, I saw a wife, a gal watching.
And I was like, hey, I've sent this to all my dad friends.
I'm trying to get everybody on board.
She's somebody out there watching.
I'm sorry, I can't shout you out and know your name right now.
but I saw that comment and that fired me up.
So yes, if you're watching and listening,
share around with your little dad gang,
with the dad army, with your dad group chats,
because that's how we're going to grow the channel.
That's how we're going to get this out there.
True.
This is my very last, the streets are saying, okay?
Another rumor that's swirling.
And then we can jump into the episode.
I would love for just an empty frame to sit somewhere on this set for next month.
that's dad of the month.
And we got to pick one.
And we got to pick one.
That's a lot of pressure.
That comes with a lot of pressure.
But think about how legendary that will be for that dad.
When they get selected and their dad of the month, they're up there for a whole month.
Yeah.
The problem you run into is like there's going to be, I would assume a lot of dads that will be doing whatever.
We're like, hey, this is how you get in the running for dad of the month.
I know.
Guys have been doing it month after month and they don't get in.
A little bit of resentment builds up.
Like, boys, are you not seeing the content that I'm pushing your guys' way?
But then to that point, I would say, are you doing it for the love of the game?
Are you doing it for the trophy?
Oh.
Because we...
Yeah.
There is no trophy in fatherhood, boys.
There is no trophy in fatherhood.
And I am not a dad.
So that's some stolen valor saying that.
And I do apologize.
I'm not a dad yet.
Hey, by the way, how's, how's Julie being doing?
She's doing very well.
She texted me, since it is 940 on a Sunday, she texted me a picture of her belly.
In the third trimester.
Coming any week now.
Yeah, 37 weeks.
It said, we're ready for Dennis.
And I did not reply to that text.
So thoughts and prayers.
She's good, though?
She's doing great.
When does maternity leave start for her?
Because I know she's in health care.
Like, I'm sure she's over the fact of being in the office.
Or she's probably getting there.
Yeah.
She is grinding, dude.
The people on her floor are doing a great job of just kind of surrounding her, helping her.
But Jill is just.
to brag about my wife really quick.
Very gritty.
Very hardworking, very determined.
And so no matter how many times
they're telling her to sit down, what are you doing,
we're giving you the easiest patient on the floor.
She is moving and grooving,
doing her thing, cannot take no for an answer.
So she's kind of her own worst enemy right now.
Is she going to work until the time comes?
I mean, truly, she has three more shifts left.
Her shifts are long too, right?
Oh, yeah, they're like 12 hours.
hours. They're like 6A to 6p, but really it's like 530A to like 730p. Yeah. She's just a dude.
She's a trooper. And it sounds like Charles the same way. I mean, she's got like multiple
businesses. She's doing her thing as well. But I love how you're trying to deflect it and
go a different direction. Yeah, that's true. And you have told me I need to. Yeah, stay in it.
Except I'll take the ball and I'll take the ball and all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
My wife's so badass.
Yeah.
Except the shoutout, man.
She's badass.
Should we get into,
should we get into motherfucked?
I have some stories that I've been holding on my chest.
There's one that I haven't even told you about that was wild.
Not this past weekend,
but the weekend before.
And I refrain from saying it on Bustin with the boys because I felt like this is a great one
to live on for the dads.
That's a big moment, dude.
We're getting breaking news on FTD.
This isn't a positive.
This is not a positive.
This is a learning experience for all of the parents out there that just a snap of the finger, dude, and shit can go sideways quick.
And this isn't like a true motherfucked moment, more of like an internalized, like, how did this happen?
But I'm sitting, sort of paint the scene.
It's Saturday afternoon, and I'm sitting on the island.
I'm sitting at the island.
and I'm trying to send an email.
I'm trying to send an email, so I'm on my iPad.
And Charles sitting on the couch, and she is, she's playing with Scotty.
Sorry, Kitchen Island.
Kitchen Island.
I'm sitting at the Kitchen Island.
Okay.
Roo's sitting there eating lunch. We're trying to get her to eat lunch, some chicken fingers before we have some quiet time.
And before Scotty goes down for her nap because Rue hadn't eaten eaten on morning.
on with Rue. Charo is on the couch with Scotty playing with Scottie. I'm sending this email.
Roo is in the middle of eating and I'm telling her, you know, you got to eat five bites. I'm saying
whatever to her, but she's trying to talk to Charo and I don't hear anything. Like again, I'm zoned
in on my iPad trying to get this email out. Yeah. And she talks to Charo about doing this magic
trick.
And Charles like, oh, we can do the magic trick later.
And Charles kind of briefing me on what happened after the fact because this bizarre
moment happens and I kind of just lose all, I kind of lose all senses, fire departments
at the house.
Yes, bro.
Rue chokes on a coin.
She's, Charo had been, Charo had done this, Charo knows this magic trick to where it's either
behind your ear.
or in your hair or the coin's like on your elbow and it looks like you eat it you eat it oh well but she's
done this magic trick before over and over in front of rue because it entertains rue so i guess
ru found this euro this euro coin that's a big coin a little bit bigger than a quarter yeah yeah i don't
know if it's bigger than a quarter around the same size yeah it's up there yeah and ru apparently
finds this coin i didn't see the coin and again mind you i'm thinking she's just eating lunch and i'm just
trying to get this email off, thinking she's eating, like, you know, we do this all, we do this every
day. And so Rue's trying to get her attention. Charles, like, I'll do it for you later or not
right now. I'm playing with Scottie or something. So I guess Rue in her mind is like, I'm going to
try to do this magic trick on my own. Well. I'm sitting there on my iPad. And I hear like choking,
gagging. And I stop and I look over at Rue. And her fingers are down her throat. And she's like,
and buddy, it's not even registering to me that she's choking.
at the moment. I look over at her
and she puts her fingers in her mouth and like,
and like, gags. And I'm like,
what are you doing? Thinking that
she's just like gagging herself.
You know what I mean? Like just like
being like, oh, okay, I found something new. I'm like
choking myself from gagging myself. I'm like,
what are you doing? And she starts
like panicking. Like, uh,
uh, and I'm like,
are you choking? And Charles like, oh my God, she's choking.
She's choking. Charles like sprints over to the island.
I like stand up. I'm in like, what in the fuck is
going on.
Rue's choking on this coin.
She's like, are you choking a coin?
She's like, yeah.
And I'd get behind Rue and I start trying to do the hymlich.
And I'm like, I'm like, got it up under a sternum and I'm like trying to go like up with it.
Charles like, are you doing it the right way?
I'm like, I think so.
And I started like trying to jump with her to get this coin out.
The coin's not coming out.
Bill.
Yes.
It's okay.
It's happening.
You've seen Rue.
My throat hurts listening to you tell this story.
Buddy, I was so, I'm smiling through it at this moment.
moment, but this was such a fucking panic.
She's choking and Charles like,
Charles, like, watch out and starts, like, digging down her throne.
She's like, I got it, I got it, I got it.
I got it.
I got it. It tries to get it. I lost it.
It's down there. And Roo's panicking.
I'm panicking. And, you know, we try,
Charles gets behind her and tried to do the homick. I'm like,
what do we do? She's like, call 911. She's like, call 911.
I fucking call 911.
I'm in a panic. You know, they're taking it slow. Like, what's your name?
What's your address? What's your phone number in case.
we need to call you what's happening.
I'm like, my three-year-old is choking.
She's still currently choking on this coin.
Yeah, yeah.
We're trying to get out of her and it's not coming out.
Are they coaching you?
Golly, it's hard to remember because it was such a moment of like panic and you don't know what's going on.
Charles just jumps into like superhero mode, like yelling all these coaching direction to do it.
I'm thinking I'm doing the Heimlet correctly because I took the CPR class back when I was a lifeguard back in high school.
Yeah.
And I'm just talking to whoever 9-1-1 on the phone
and saying what's going on.
They're like, we're sending somebody over to you.
As they're sending somebody over to me,
that call lasts at three minutes.
Probably around the two-minute mark.
Charo is down her throat again.
She's like, I got it, I got it.
And then pulls it out, gets the coin out.
What a sad.
As they're driving over to the house.
I'm like, coins out, she's fine.
She's like, is she breathing?
And I walk over to her room.
I'm like, hey, you know, I'm asking her questions and stuff.
She seems like she's going to be okay.
She's just in a panic.
and she's crying there's blood everywhere because trial i probably scraped her throat or
scraped something inside of her mouth so because there's blood on my uh there's blood on my shirt
there's blood on the counter yes bro yes i've been holding that on me for over a week now
yes and that was one of those moments where it's like you're internally motherfucking yourself
because i was just trying to do something on the iPad and next thing you know she's gagging and
choking and it happened it happened quick you know what i mean yes like you turn away for one second
you have food set up you're trying to get something off on the iPad and she's gagging herself and
next thing you know she's choking on a coin and fire department ambulance comes over they're running
her vitals they're doing all the stuff she checks out fine she's all good but she was choking
on a fucking coin bro oh my god from wanting to mimic a magic trick can we
really quick before we jump into this can we crack a cold one to chario saving the day oh buddy yeah
we can okay because that's because trao went into superhero mode yeah i was in it i was in just
panic like i again i'm like trying to do the hymn like i think i'm doing it right but nothing your
mind is going everywhere that was so long ago when you do the CPR class that you don't know if
you're doing it correctly and bro the fact that she had the wherewith
to just be like, I'm digging this shit out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm getting it.
Because I'm seeing it happen and my eyes are wide open.
Again, I was just like a kid sitting on the fucking sideline thinking like, I don't
know.
You're thinking your kid could die.
Yeah, dude.
Right there.
Because then when the fire department, everybody comes over and they're kind of breaking
it down, they're like, hey, if by any chance this were to happen ever again.
And she goes unconscious.
All you'd have to do is just hit like the, I think it was like 30.
CPR.
Yeah. CPR compressions, presses, whatever it is.
Give her some marriages to keep oxygen going to her brain.
But they're like, if she was unconscious, like,
we would have still been able to save her.
With it being a coin, we would have still been able to save her,
even if she's unconscious.
Yeah.
So just to put your mind at ease, because you're thinking
if they don't get here before her eyes closed.
Before her eyes closed, like she would die.
That's what's happened.
That's what I'm thinking of my mind.
I'm assuming Charles was thinking the same exact thing.
Also, we are not experts and do not take any type of...
Yeah, this is not...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But while I ask this question, this is my personal question to Will.
This is not for the listeners to take in as advice.
Aren't you supposed to do like the two-finger or the three-finger thing with toddlers
and not like the full hand compression?
So, Chef Jack is saying yes.
Okay.
Take his advice.
Yeah, you can take it.
No, I think with like Roo, her being three, you would still go like on...
the front, it feels like,
uh,
it feels Scotty,
you'd be flipping her back and forth,
patting on the back and patting on the front.
Yeah.
Um,
for the compressions.
Yeah,
you do like fingers or whatever.
Okay.
I'll see you like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dude,
that was so long ago,
but I was trying to,
I was trying to like remember,
like as I'm just like doing the hymlich
and everything else.
But it was terrifying.
Will.
Okay.
Also,
that brings,
that reminds me and I'm going to go
buy one go take a CPR class hey one go take a CPR class you can get them for free at your local
county hospital don't quote me on that but do i'm almost positive that's a thing uh if if chef jack
can google that i'm almost positive that's a thing secondly these um choking uh like kid rescuer
things it's those little like it's like a mask and you do the suction and it's really bad
radio but yeah you put it on like it's a mask and it has this little uh almost like a ball
pumper yeah on the bottom and i've been seeing videos on the internet that made me want to go
buy that thing tomorrow i don't even have a kid in the world yeah that would be smart to do but oh my god
buddy it was terrifying it was terrifying round of applause at char out yeah yeah dude she flew
into action bro and i'm sitting there like how did this happen so quick you know what i mean because
i was the one like sitting by her oh yeah and again i looked over like i heard the i heard the choke and the gag
and i look over at her and then she's looking at me and she like does it again and i'm like what are you
doing and she just starts kind of panicking and i'm like are you all right and charles like oh my god
she's choking she's choking she's choking she's got a coin i'm just thinking a fucking coin
I'm just thinking what in the hell is happening again
immediately started doing the hymlich Charles
like idly standing by just like watch out
watch out move you call 911 she starts fucking trying to dig down
dude it was it was terrifying dude
thank god I do have a nurse for a wife
yeah yeah I'm gonna pop quizer when I get home
and not tell her this part of the story first
but I'd be like hey theoretically yeah
like scarlet's chewing on it you know she gets a coin down there
where are we doing
tesser yeah but hopefully you were you you you you heimlich until you would basically what they were
kind of telling us is you would you would heimlich and try to get it out up until they go unconscious
when they go unconscious again you can't like don't panic and you sit there and do the compressions
you would hit 30 compressions uh try to blow get oxygen to their brain you're just trying to keep
oxygen going until help gets there yeah because they were there within like within five
minutes from the call.
Damn.
We were on the phone and she's like, I got somebody
headed your way. And even when I was like, hey, the coin's out,
I think she's all good. They're already on their way.
So whenever they get there, like, they'll choke bottles
and make sure everything's clear. And they were saying
it's honestly a better, like,
it's a good thing that it was
a coin and not food because
food can start breaking down and actually block
her throat or where she was breathing.
Because since Rood didn't pass out,
they were under the impression that it probably
wasn't fully blocking her airways.
one it's so big it probably got caught up more like in her uh yeah it was like it was like
trachea is that i'm not sure it was like up here and they're like if it would have got they're like
you know showing her if it would get down to here you know they were just kind of talking to her
to have conversation with her it was good she was just like trem- yeah i slept
i wouldn't have been able to just because it was all good i mean you're you're beating yourself up
just as a parent because you take your eyes off of it for
a minute and something can go sideways like that.
Yeah. And then, you know,
Charles was struggling for a while afterwards.
And, you know, I'm like, you know, maybe we don't teach the magic trick to Scotty.
Did she laugh?
She, yeah, she knew I was joking, but she's like, yeah, like, you're just not, you know,
Charles's not thinking she was going to do something like that.
No.
No one.
The last time I saw Charles do that magic trick was a long time ago.
And I guess Rue, she saw the coin and it probably just reminded her of the magic trick.
She's like, look, Mom.
And I think Rue was showing her like, hey, Mama, do the magic trick.
She's like, I'm playing with Scotty.
I'll do the magic trick here with you in a little bit.
And she just got a wild hair and was like, I'm going to try this magic trick.
Dude, thank God she did that.
I mean, obviously, it would have been better if it hadn't happened.
But thank God she did it in front of you guys.
Thank God you all were there, dude.
Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
Very randomly, this is just a dad tip for people out there.
We were at a family like Easter hunt.
Somebody had a green pool cover.
I was young enough to think that the pool cover was like a putting green
because it kind of looked like AstroTurf or whatever,
walked out on it and went underneath the pool cover.
My cousin ended up getting help.
Almost drowned.
But it was like one of those things where like everybody's Easter hunting, like Easter egg hunting.
And then all of a sudden they look up and, you know, my dad's seeing somebody trying to fish me out.
It's crazy, dude.
It can just happen.
It happens.
It happens quite, man.
We were at our, we were at our friends a few weeks ago.
We were in the pool in the backyard and Rue was playing on a couple of the noodles and can't like fully swim yet.
But she can do like a couple things.
You know what I mean?
She can go underwater.
She can swim like a couple of.
couple strokes or something like that, but she can't handle herself by yourself in water.
But I'm in the water with all, I'm in the water with her and our friends kids.
Yeah.
And one came outside and was wearing an outfit and I was complimenting her outfit.
And, you know, I'm like playing with Roo, but Roo wanted to play on this noodle.
She's like, no dad, let go.
And so I'm like, let go.
And she kind of does a thing where she like, let's go for his egg and goes underwater and
then comes back up on the noodle.
Yeah.
And we were playing for a long time.
There's probably been 40 minutes at this point.
and then the other one the sibling comes out and wants to show me his outfit because I'm complimenting his sister oh will look at this and I'm like look over my oh that's awesome buddy and dude I turn around and sir Roo was like struggling in the water for a moment I pick her I just pick her up it wasn't like anything close to her drowning or nothing like that but just another subtle reminder that you turn your head for like one minute and things could be things could be crazy nobody saw either like I picked her up
and she was like crying for a second.
I'm like, hey, sweetheart.
Like, this is why, you know, you need to use the noodle.
This is why you need to be close to the side.
Because she was like, you know, she's like trying to get,
she's like trying to do things more for herself.
She's trying to like prove to herself
that she can do more without help and things like that.
Yeah.
And, but yeah, that was just another like just quick reminder
that you can turn your head for a second
and something could just go south.
It's scary, dude.
It's nuts.
Dude, what in the world?
While you were telling that,
uh, my throat.
felt terrible the entire time you were telling that story and I felt like I had something in my throat
that was the worst story I've heard in a while when the first time when Charles said she had it
I got it I got it I got it and then she's like I lost it I lost it what's going on yeah 30 minutes
oh got you yeah oh yeah we're 30 minutes for home one second and um I lost it I lost it like in my brain
I'm thinking holy fuck how are we going to get out of this because again I'm not thinking
about like when the fire the they were over at the house being like oh she would have we would
have still got it out and you guys would have been fine i'm thinking that was like a life or death
moment getting that out before the ambulance i would have thought the same thing yeah yeah
what um so what's your mother so what's my mother fuck well i'm glad you asked will my mother fucked
is that my wife said i need to talk with you guys more about college football and less with her
Is she not, she's not, she not, she not, she not a ball fan?
She's a ball fan.
But is she a ball fan?
She dabbles.
But when, apparently when she's hungry in the morning.
When she's third trimester hungry in the morning, you're bitching about Baylor, she
don't want to hear it.
When I'm trying to tell her, hey, here's the deal.
Like a lot of people are kind of sleeping on Baylor.
They could have a really good season though, honey.
They're eight and four last year.
Sweetheart, when you look at Baylor's schedule, what do you see?
And tell, and really quick.
Tell me, are you more worried about Auburn or are you more worried about SMU?
And I get it.
SMU is an ACCC school, but they were a playoff team last year, honey.
Sherman, get your head out of the fucking clouds.
We're about to have a baby here in two weeks and you're talking about Baylor football.
We're going to the game.
I already told you we're going.
I would go to the game with you.
Go talk to your buddies at work.
No, but she quite literally was like, do you realize where you work?
Because I told her, I was like, honey, I just like, I like talking about this stuff.
She goes, well, I want to talk about us.
I want to talk about our daughter that's about to be here.
Maybe you can talk about that at work where you guys talk about sports and stuff.
I was like, you know what?
Got motherfucked in that situation, but she's right.
I need to talk about that stuff more than you.
You know?
But is she, you're just trying to include her?
I am.
Here's an interest in my life.
Chef, chefs back to like, yeah.
Like, sure.
Arizona State's September 20.
Yeah.
Women what there are men to talk.
more. And when they want to talk about their interest, that being football, they're trying to be
vulnerable and share something with you. This is a moment where I will get going, dude. Like, I'm
talking, I'm not even, I'm probably missing turns left and right on the way to Velvet Taco where
she wanted to have breakfast. They don't have breakfast tacos. I didn't complain. I took her to
velvet taco. And I'm probably missing turns left and right. I'm talking about Baylor. And I get it.
It's okay. I'm not upset about it. But it does hurt.
Because when she's talking about her shows, or she's talking about her stuff, I've been listening.
Yeah, buddy, this is the space. This is the show to do it on.
Because for you to be as much of a college football fan or a football fan in general, as I know you to be,
and you just got to the point where you're like, you said she's right.
And it's like, hang on.
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but I wasn't even talking about Baylor.
He was trying to share an interest with your wife.
Yeah.
I was just sharing something along the lines of,
I wish I could remember,
but I think I was talking about some SEC team,
and I was talking about their schedule,
and like, yeah, it's kind of crazy.
Game day is always usually following Bama.
You know, I'm going like a million miles an hour.
And she's just like, this is the last thing
I want to talk about right now.
I'm like, honey, I get that, but like you put on...
Yeah, how many things are you...
Is she talking about that you don't want to hear about?
Yeah, and when you put...
But you eat it?
I eat it.
When you put on the D'Amelio show, the Rihadi TV following Charlie D'Milio and her sister,
I sit there for those 45 minutes.
Sweetheart, I do my best to create space when you want to tell me about this onyx and storm
book that you're reading.
I'm trying to buy in.
It's hard.
But ladies, let me tell you.
tell you, when your man talks to you about college football in the upcoming season and you just
tell him, hey, go talk to your boys about this at work, you're just telling us, you don't matter
right now. And you know what the worst part is? Because she is a longhorn, I guarantee you,
if I've been talking about Archman, now, honey, you know that, you know, they're saying this and that,
they're saying Sark's really only like a players coach. If he doesn't have the squad, he can't really
get a team there. He's not a numbers guy. Yeah. And she would listen and eat that up all
day if I was talking about the longhorns. But I wasn't talking about her longhorns.
That's pretty selfish. Yeah. Cut that part out.
Cut that part out. But yeah, that's my, that's my mother fucked. It doesn't even touch
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Mike, correct a cold one this week is going to go to finding your way back to your teammate.
I was wondering if I would tell this story on this show.
I kind of vented to the boys about it before the show started.
But finding your way back to your teammate in this circumstance, in this situation,
my teammate is my wife.
We were in New York over the weekend.
We had a lot of great moments, but we had a couple down moments.
One of those down moments is we were at each other's throat at like two in the morning on Saturday.
I'll preface this, sweetheart, you were right.
You were right.
I was wrong.
It sounds like a motherfucker as well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you got to crack a cold one too because we found our way.
We both apologized to each other.
There we go.
But we had a great night on Saturday where we got a sitter.
We were out in New York.
Charles had a work thing earlier in the week and then parlayed into visiting a friend,
a really good friend of hers in New York.
And we were hanging out with that couple.
They have two little ones of their own, like eight years old and five years old.
So the five-year-old was close with Roo.
They were great to Roo.
They were great with the kids.
But on Saturday, we've been doing all the family stuff to where, you know, we're all with each other.
We're going to dinner.
We're doing breakfast.
Hey, let's go to the pool.
Let's do this and that.
But on Saturday, it was just the adults.
We got a sitter.
We went out.
We had dinner.
There was a little double date.
We had dinner up on a rooftop somewhere.
And then afterwards, at 1045, we went to this speakeasy magic show.
It was a really cool setup.
You go in, you kind of in this waiting area, like inside of the
bar guy comes up and grabs you he was like was there a secret code yeah but the person who booked it
had to do all the secret code stuff oh got you okay so he grabbed he grabs sam takes him over hey you guys
are going to the other side tell him george sent you go to the other side it's a cleaners to where the
cleaners is closed and you walk in and uh you know you got the desk sitting up front you got all these
clothes hanging from like dry cleaning and everything else you say what the code is hey george sent us
and you take your little coupon, you walk behind,
there's like a door behind all the clothes.
You're like walking through the clothes and everything else.
There's a secret little door.
You enter the secret door,
and then you're back in this bar area with a little stage,
and it was a magic show.
We had a great time at the magic show.
A lot of different magicians, you know,
they have about 10 minutes at each table,
and they get up and they do different sets.
They do different things.
It was a great night.
During that night, again, double date.
We had a sitter for all four kids,
at my wife's friend's apartment.
So Rue and Scottie.
With the eight-year-old and the five-year-old.
Yeah, Roo and Scotty are essentially having a little sleepover at at Susan's.
Okay.
So they're at Susan's.
They have a little movie night.
They watch Frozen.
They go down to sleep.
Roo's having a little sleeping bag sleepover.
Scotty's down for the count around 7, 7.30.
She's the easy one to put down.
And Rue and the two friends, the eight-year-old and the five-year-old.
they do a little sleepover together in one of their bedrooms.
Yeah.
And throughout that night, they're alluding to, hey, the kids seem like they're having a great time.
They can just stay all night at our house.
And Charles kind of pushing back, oh, we can go back and we can get them.
And in my mind bubbling up is like, hey, if they're offering, we can take them up on this offer
and we can just go back to our hotel room, our 400 foot square foot hotel room.
We can have the bed to ourselves.
We can sleep.
And we don't have to worry about the kids.
In that moment, are you doing any hints towards Char of kind of like a, hey, hey, hey, hey.
No, I think I nudged everyone on time.
I'm like, hey, it'd be kind of nice.
It's kind of nice.
She's like, hey, sweetheart, they're our kids.
I feel you.
I feel you, but it would be nice.
And at this point, it's like 1.130 in the morning.
And I am absolutely beat.
Everybody's kind of beat.
And we're finishing out this magic show.
And again, they're doubling down, doubling down on, hey, they're already a sleep.
They can just sleep at our, they can just sleep at the apartment and they, you know, we'll just, we'll handle them in the morning.
And I'm thinking, could be kind of nice.
Sweetheart, come on.
She doesn't want to do it.
They're tripling down.
I was just about to say, don't tell me they tripled down.
Triple down.
Then it's like, you may even be kind of rude.
Then it's like, what?
They don't want their kid.
We're not good enough to have their kids spend the night?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Then it gets to the point to where I'm like, we're Uber and back.
and I'm thinking of myself, why ain't we getting an Uber back to the hotel?
Like, they've offered us.
Like, why not take them up on this offer?
Knowing that my man, Chris, on the other side, is probably like, he's probably like,
I'd be nice to you guys come get your kids.
You know, he's not saying nothing.
No, he's like, yeah, it'll be fine.
Can be too, all right?
I know my man, Chris.
He's like, yeah, why did you guys come get your kids?
Come get your kids?
And I'm thinking, hey, sweetheart, let's fucking just go back to the hotel room.
So we go back, we wake them up.
two in the morning. We wake up Roo. We wake up Scotty. Charles getting Scotty and the carrier.
I'm getting Roo. We get an Uber to go back to the hotel. Rue's thrown a tantrum the entire time
back to the hotel. Obviously, she's tired. Yeah. All the different things, right? And I'm just sitting there.
I'm exhausted and I'm starting to get in like a bad mood for the fact that we ended up taking the kids
back to the hotel. And we're pushing them down. We're going down the hall. We got the stroller.
Going down the hall and Charles makes a comment. It seems like you're,
It seems like you're kind of mad, kind of mad at me right now.
Because I think Rue made the comment like,
De Dei, you frustrated?
Oh, no, that is not frustrated.
Dadda is just tired.
And Charles goes,
it feels like you're kind of mad at me right now.
And I'm like, we could have left the kids at the apartment
and came back to the hotel.
This is basically how I said,
oh, so you are mad at me.
I'm just saying it would have been nice
if we could have just came back to the hotel room
and got some sleep with each other.
And so I'm, you know, doing this thing.
When I get upset,
I'm very much like an internal, an internal being.
A lot of things faster inside.
I'm more so suppressed.
I suppress.
I know my therapist would say,
hey,
you need to talk about this stuff.
I'm a guy that suppresses my emotions.
When I've traveled with you for travel shoots,
that happens also when you get tired.
Yeah.
So it was a little double down.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we were wiped.
We were exhausted because you're running around.
You're doing stuff with the kids all day.
And nap time,
there wasn't really a whole much of a nap time.
Because, again, you're just on the move.
You're in a different sin.
Yes.
And then when we're going back to our hotel room,
like our hotel room is insanely small.
So we're all four on the bed.
Scotty's plan.
You're trying to get her down,
but she doesn't really want to go down.
So it's like,
all right,
we're just going to eat this nap time.
So everyone's essentially just exhausted.
And because I was on an ur-
No, that was a different day.
All these days run together.
But you're sleeping in the bed with your toddler.
We don't do, we don't normally do that.
So we're just like, you know,
she's adjusting all night long.
You're waking up like about eight times.
because her foot is like on your face.
You're like, hey, sweetheart, you got to move over.
Go bother mom or something.
Apparently, like, I'm her human pillow.
Yeah, she's in between us.
But we were just at that part of the night to where there was not a lot of like
diplomatic resolution.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And we set a few things back and forth to each other.
Okay.
That I'm not proud of.
I know she's not proud of.
I escalated the situation because I more so wanted to suppress and internalize and say,
I don't want to talk about this shit.
I want to go to bed and I want to sleep on it.
She's like, oh, so you don't want to get this figured out and talk about it tonight?
No, I don't want to talk about it tonight.
I want to go to sleep.
I want to put the kid down and I want to go to sleep.
Well, she's like, well, Roo's already asleep.
Like, can't you just help me with Scotty?
I still got to do my face routine and brush my teeth and everything else.
And I told her, I said, I told you that when we got to the apartment that I had Rue,
meaning you have Scotty.
So even though Rue's asleep, that's a win for me.
You got to put Scottie down.
That was the deal.
She's like, oh, so you're not going to be my teammate?
You can't have some perspective on how I've been grinding with the kiddos all week long out here in New York while you were in Chicago.
I'm like, oh, so now you want to bring up the scoreboard.
Now you want to scoreboard me to death.
Make me feel guilty.
I wish I could have been out here with you.
Are you in your PJs while you're having this argument?
I'm just in my shorts.
So yeah, I guess I'm in my PJs.
I'm like scratching.
back and there's a part of you there's a part of me after the fact i wasn't thinking about it in the
moment but after the fact i'm like i kind of hate that i was kind of going back and forth with mom
like because ru was there i think she was sleeping but you know when you're young it's like you could
be fake sleeping you're listening to mom and dad argue i don't know if she's old enough to have that
figured out yet were you all doing uh have you ever seen the other guys yeah of course the whisper fighting
we said i had root that means you have scotty no no we were in the volume not wasn't too high but
we were loud. We were loud enough. I was loud enough for sure. And I kind of do the thing where
like roll over and then. Charles like sitting there like like like, like, you know, rock and
Scottie trying to get her to sleep because she's fussy. Now, but you got Scotty.
At that volume? With that tone? Yeah, I think I. I can't fully remember.
Oh no. The thing where I kind of like roll over and I'm trying to fall asleep and try not to think
about all the words that I say because I'm trying to do sleep. She's like, so you don't want
to figure this out? No, I don't want to figure this out. I want to go to.
to sleep. Just log us
a therapy session. We can talk about this with the therapist.
And she's like, we don't have,
she's not booked for next week. I'm like, well, you better book her
because we need to figure out. We got some of it. Yeah, we got to talk
about this conversation with the therapist. And she's like, well,
it doesn't seem like it's very healthy if we have to use a therapist
to talk about this. Like, we need to be using,
we need to be doing the stuff that she's talked to us about.
The therapist is there to help us through stuff not to solve
everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not to solve it.
The sweetheart is June. You don't want to
respect mental, what is it?
Mental health awareness month?
I think it's Pride Month.
Is it both?
Yeah, it might be both.
It might be both.
Yeah, yeah.
Juneteenth.
Come on.
And June's a lot of things going on.
A lot of things going on.
June's a big month, dude.
June's a big month.
And I like to think I kind of, I hardheaded that argument to where, listen, I'm
going to sleep.
I don't want to argue about, I don't want to talk about this.
Being a dude, being a dude, being a full-on dude.
Having a low moment as a husband, as a father and as a man.
In the next morning, she beats me to a,
an apology. She's like, hey, I, you know, I'm sorry for, uh, I said some things I didn't mean
last night. I am sorry for bringing the school board. That makes it. I didn't want it to go there.
And I was like, fuck. Cause I didn't want to be, I needed to be the first to apologize because I was
being a bitch about the entire situation. Because I just wanted to like just go back to the room.
We don't got the kids. It's like they offered. We take it up. Night me and you, we go back.
We sleep. We wake up. We go down and get lattes. Like we enjoy just a nice little morning.
Yeah. Before a little pool day that we were about to have.
on Saturday or whenever that was.
And she's giving me the whole, hey, the kids are our responsibility.
Like, I don't want to put the responsibility of our kids on my friend when even though
she's offering and saying yes, like, I know what it takes to, you know, handle a couple kids
and they would have all four of them doing all their morning routines and they're getting
the same amount of sleep that we're getting.
Yeah.
And she's like, it's our kids are our responsibility.
And I'm thinking to myself like, yes, she's right.
But we would have had a little lifeline.
We would have had a little, anyway.
What I'm cracking a cold one, too.
We ended up finding our way back to each other.
We were both apologetic to each other because, you know, I was being a pussy.
Yeah.
We'll love finding.
And that's why I said.
I was like, I'm sorry for being a pussy last night.
Like, I was really bitching about it.
And I was taking it out on you.
And I'm sorry for that.
Everyone won in that situation.
Yeah, it's one of those.
I was going back and forth on it if I wanted to tell that story on here.
but then I think like that's real life.
Yeah.
That's like a, that's like you go at it.
That's a perfect example of an argument over something like trivial when you look back at it now.
Yeah.
But it was a good moment of like Charo's going off of that philosophy of like the right choice here is the harder one to make to go pick up our kids.
You say that I feel even worse because you're 100% right.
Like, and I live by those words just because Jill's stepdad says him religiously. He's like,
if you have two options, the right one is usually the harder one to do. And I'm like, all right.
God, that is so true. That doesn't mean that it doesn't suck. I could not see it in the moment.
I didn't want to see that in the moment. We always get blinded in moments like that.
I do all the time. And I'm really bad. I feel like every single wedding I've ever been to,
the dad of the bride that like you know talks that right before the receptions about the guys you know
the only advice I'd give you guys is uh never go to bed angry you know solve it before you go to
like dude I know that's what they all say the whole yeah don't go to bed angry I struggle with that
because I am just such a being that I almost need a night's sleep and I'll be a lot more clear-minded
when I wake up yes because when I'm in it I'm just not in I'm just not in I'm just
not in the mental space to solve it the way that we actually need to solve it.
Yes.
Jill sounds like very similar to Charo.
She wants to do it right then and there.
And what that entails, and this is nothing against Jill,
it's going to be a lot of monologing from Jill.
And I need to keep maintain eye contact.
I need to show her that I'm listening.
But it's also 1.30 in the morning.
I want to go to bed.
I'm exhausted.
and I don't have the brain capacity to fully solve this thing.
And it's hard.
It's a double-edged sword because it's like, Jill, you're not getting the best of me right now.
I know you want to solve this right now.
But you're getting a pissed off, upset, tired, and probably hungry Sherman right now, who sucks.
That's the worst version of me.
Yeah.
So if we did this tomorrow with sound minds and a nice sleep and some thought.
Yeah.
But that's just life, dude.
Yeah.
Yeah, you wake up the next morning.
You're kind of feeling a little weird.
Like, you know, I know I need to say something.
I need to figure out the right time.
Yes.
Right.
We're kind of like, hey, you want to get Scotty in this?
Or, hey, do you want, you know, I'm like, hey, what do you want me to get in the,
what do we need to get in the green backpack for the day?
Like, how long were you going to plan to be out?
Like, you know, I'm trying to do all the stuff.
And you know, it's just sitting in your mind.
Like, we know we have some words we need to say.
Yes.
Like apologizing.
What was the little quote you said?
The hard, the hard choice.
The hard choice is usually the right one to make.
I was going to call my wife.
I have a good feeling about this before she picks up.
I have a good feeling about this.
It's 10.20 on a Sunday.
Are you doing?
Are you okay?
Yeah, we're in the middle of this episode right now,
and I just, I felt inclined to call you and tell you that I am, once again,
sorry for the way I acted the other night.
That Sherm just hit me with a quote that said,
the hard choice is usually the right choice to make.
And in that moment of, in that moment of weakness,
I was very much trying to take the easy way out.
And I was projecting on you in a way that you did not deserve.
And again, I said it yesterday,
but I was being a bitch when we were coming back to the hotel.
And I just, once again, I want to apologize to you and then say, I'm sorry.
Let's go.
It's like a bit.
It's kind of a mix because we're on the,
show I was kind of talking about. My crack of cold one was finding your way back to your teammate.
Charo, I will say this, and I'll just interject here. I do apologize. When I said that quote,
he grabbed his phone and was like kind of partially halfway listening to what I was talking about.
I could tell he was like, I need to call my wife right now. So I don't think this is fully a bit.
I think he really did want to call you. You're welcome. I hope you're enjoying your night.
I know it's 1020 on a Sunday. I will be home soon. But again, I just, yeah, I had a little
Luser mentality the other night when Shirm hit me with that quote on the hard choice is usually the right one. I was like, oh God, yeah, she was.
I mean, are you like, do you truly believe that? Or are you just saying that because of the quote?
No, no, I believe that because you were kind of giving me the run. Like I was thinking of a from a perspective of more selfishness on we would have a room to ourselves. Your friends tripled down and offered to have the kids. And that felt like the easiest, most comfortable choice to make. And when Rue hit me, or when not Rue, when Shirm hit me with that quote, I'm thinking back to it. And you were.
leaning into.
I know, but these, the kids are our responsibility.
So I'm like, you were choosing the hard choice,
even though you probably, you know,
you would have loved to have done the same thing as me.
I don't know what to say because you're on.
So.
You can just say, I love you and you're the best husband in the world.
Great.
But both of those things.
Okay.
Let's go.
I love you, sweetheart.
I'll see you later.
I think that went well.
I think that went well.
Hey.
Hey, I think that would pretty good.
Yeah, I think it would pretty good.
She said, I agree with what you said.
She didn't yell at you.
She didn't yell at you.
Hey, we're, if, like, you're in the doghouse right now, I think you're, like, well out of it.
You know what I mean?
Like, your tails still might be in the doghouse.
Oh, buddy, out of the doghouse, when I tell you, I put on a heroic performance when we had to sit on the tarmac for all of two and a half hours today when we were flying back from LaGuardia.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I had Rudy or I had Scotty on my lap.
I, you know, basically essentially gave Charles like a two, two and a half hour break because I was like, hey, do you want me to hold Scotty?
And because I, again, Charles, like, carrying Scotty, I'm messing with Roo a lot of the time.
But dude, when you're stuck on the tarmac, we were stuck on the runway, we were supposed to fly out at noon.
We got on, we got boarded around 1230 and we didn't leave until about three, like take off till about three like that.
Dude, that's a different kind of hell.
Yeah.
That's a different type of, like the kids were good for the most part.
Little dad hack out there.
If you're flying with your family, always sit by the window.
Reason being, if there's a blowout or a heavy diaper and your wife's in the aisle,
she would usually have to be the one to go to the back.
After that phone call, that's crazy.
That's crazy.
But you got, you got to.
You got to strategize at some points.
Listen, I was A-1.
They were C, but they got to do the family boarding after A,
but I don't work this hard to, you know.
No, sir.
Just let my A-1 go to waste on Southwest.
Yeah.
So I hold down the row that we're going to be on full flight.
Not an empty seat the entire,
not an empty seat when we were taking off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I'm holding down the row,
and it's like, you know,
I just happened to be on the inside.
And I was thinking about this whenever we were getting toward the end.
And Scotty, I was seeing kind of a bluby.
I was seeing kind of a blowout.
She had wetness on the outside of her dad,
but I was like, oh, shit.
Hey, Joe.
Nice.
So we know, we gotta change her.
But matter of fact,
Charles changes her right there in the row.
Oh.
I end up putting Roo on my lap
and she just changes Scotty right there in the middle seat.
Oh, damn.
Yeah.
Charles ain't scared to get her hands dirty.
No.
That's dialed.
Yeah.
That's honestly awesome.
She ain't scared to get her hands dirty.
She'll do it in public.
If she has to.
I need to train on diaper training, by the way.
That is something that I am very like not nervous about,
but I'm like, I want to be a pro.
I want to be an officiato.
Oh, you'll get there.
You'll learn quick.
You'll learn quick.
Watching you do it that one time.
The only barrier you got to get across is once you realize they're more durable than you
anticipate.
Yeah.
Because you want to be very careful.
you think everything hurts them.
Like when I was putting clothes on Rue for, I mean, really first several months,
I'm always like very careful because I don't want to pull a strain of hair.
You know what I mean?
I don't want her to be uncomfortable as I'm trying to put like a shirt or something over her head.
Yeah.
But once you get past kind of that barrier that they're pretty durable, then you'll get rolling.
Not in a way to where you're throwing them around.
But I remember when you were at the house and I was like, hey, go ahead, like change your diaper.
or I was having you do something.
Oh, no.
You're seeing how you were very cautious.
You were having me practice feeding.
Yeah.
You have me practice feeding.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was holding.
Oh, and I was showing you the diaper.
I was showing you.
You showed me the diaper change as well.
But then you were like, hey, you can feed her.
Like here, you put your elbow up here.
Yes, you were being super, which I completely get.
Like, I was the same way.
I was holding a glass ballerina.
Yeah.
I was like, what in the world is this?
Yeah.
You're like, not, though.
Like, put the ball in.
Get her sitting up.
You got to push it in.
You can't just, I'm like, golly.
And then Brad doing the bottle during the trailer, dude.
I always think about that.
Putting the bottle underneath his chin and Scotty just.
I'm like, oh my God.
I was getting so nervous.
Oh, oh, easy.
There you go.
Yeah, you got it.
And you're sitting like 10 feet back.
You're like, Brad.
Brett, what are you doing?
Just move it.
I, um, we ran long again.
Which is, which is totally fine.
Which is totally fine.
Um, but I was going to kick it to, we had a survival kit and a dad hack.
I was going to hit the what are the odds.
What was your crack a cold one?
Oh yeah.
Okay.
Crack a cold one.
Will, listen, listen.
We got enough comments.
People don't care if it goes over.
It's okay if we go over.
It's okay if it goes over.
Until people are like, hey, you guys got to shut the fuck up.
I think it's all right.
I think we got enough good feedback.
Like in my head, I'm thinking these would be a lot better if they're under an hour.
I would love to ideally hit that every episode.
Yeah.
But knowing, like, I don't know if I'm in my own head about it a lot of the times and all the reassuring comments.
It's like, hey, we love you guys taking your time, you guys talk and everything else.
It's kind of like, bro, just rip it, bro.
Well, if we're coming in with two stories like that off the top, I mean, those are bangers.
we looked up after the choking story it was 35 minutes yeah and that felt like five
yeah that one was crazy minutes i've ever been through you're having to listen to that yeah um
okay so my crack a cold one uh will brought up daily dad and then he also brought up strong fathers
strong daughters i made it my uh homework assignment that first week to get both of those books
I have both of those books as well as some others.
Shout out Papa Shirm.
He listens to the episodes.
He actually was the one that got on Amazon and said,
I heard you wanted these.
Do you want these as like a little gift?
Let's go, Papa Shirm.
So Papa Shirm hooked it up.
I dove into Strong Fathers, Strong Daughters.
I literally have only read the intro.
So we got it last night or two days ago.
I got it and started reading it last night.
out loud to Jill, have only gotten through the intro and then like part of chapter one,
but I cannot recommend it more just because the introduction is, and I forget the author's
name, that's terrible that I forgot her name, Strong Fathers, Strong Daughters by Meg Meeker.
Shout out Meg Meeker. So written by a woman and essentially in the introduction, she's like,
hey listen i've been a doctor for like this long i've had to treat she's uh done some stuff in
mental uh health as well as being like a family practitioner i think is what she is she's like i've
had all these daughters come in um all these girls it's the same thing about their
hey it's us the jonas brothers and guess what we have some big news what's the news
huge news we created our own podcast called hey jonas we invented a podcast well we didn't invent a podcast
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
But this one's extra special.
So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.
Before Jonas Brothers was...
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,
where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,
and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcast.
Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Keith Giamanka seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad.
But secretly, he became someone else,
a master of disguise who went on a crime.
At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea?
It seemed very crazy, but I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out.
Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong and what that might look like?
No.
I didn't want to manifest that.
I was trying to manifest success.
Every family has its secrets.
But what happens when you discover that your dad,
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Dad, of like these are the types of qualities
that I love in my dad
or somebody that had a terrible relationship with my dad.
It's these are the things that I really wanted from my dad.
Yeah.
And she's basically sitting there in that introduction and just being like,
dads, you are the most important relationship with your daughter no matter what.
Don't care who they marry, don't care who they date, who their best friend is.
If they're best friends with Taylor Swift, it doesn't matter.
You are going to be the most important relationship in your daughter's life, bar none, even with mom.
and hearing that, in reading it aloud, and then Jill, like, sitting there on the couch,
it was fun, dude.
And I was getting, like, actually really juiced up of, like, because I'm hearing you talk about that.
I'm hearing Jill every now and then.
She says this great quote.
She's like, the only thing I've ever been worried about you, Sherman, is that our kids are going to love you more than me.
And she was like, and that's the best thing I could ever be worried about.
And she's always talking about Scarlett's going to be a daddy's girl.
She's going to be obsessed with you.
You're going to be her favorite person in the whole world.
So like hearing all those things and then reading from this doctor, Meg Meeker, that wrote this bestselling book, like, it is your job to be her needle in life of like morality of spiritually, of emotionally.
Like you are going to be the driving force in her life.
Buckle up because you play a really important role.
And she had a great quote.
She was like, if you knew how important your role was in your daughter's life, you'd be terrified.
And I stopped reading out loud.
And I looked at Jill.
I said, well, good thing.
I'm already scared shitless.
So I, like, I'm very excited.
And so I wanted to crack a cold one to you.
I know we already cracked our bud lights.
But I'm just stoked off of like, and that was only off of one night of reading.
I'm going to get home.
I have so much coffee in me.
It's late at night that I'm going to have to read to fall asleep.
I know exactly what I'm reading.
So shout out to you and for that book recommendation.
And I'll do like a more succinct breakdown, I guess, of like each chapter as I go through it.
Yeah, I'm only a few chapters in, but it is, it's cool that you say that too because I feel like a lot of people have DM me saying that they got that they got strong father, strong dogs.
People I've talked or mentioned the Daily Dad.
I know I've recommended it before and a couple of people also were talking about the 12 hours and 12 weeks like the sleeping method.
But a lot of people getting strong father, strong daughters.
And dude, I'm telling you whether, again, you're an expecting father, whether you're somebody that's already doing it and your daughter is young.
Whether you're older and you have a teenage daughter.
Like there are so many stories that she breaks down that, yeah, it's like the greatest thing in the world.
And you just, as I'm reading it, you already know it's going to be one of the hardest things.
in the world, especially when they get older and resent you and have all these things
where they push back on and they don't listen to you.
And you kind of, I would assume, feel like you don't have a great relationship with your
daughter.
You come across a lot of these stories that you're almost, it's like, in my head, as I'm
reading it, and I have a three-year-old, it's like, oh, this is going to be inevitable.
They're going to have these, like, bumps in the road or these could potentially be
long periods of feeling like you're not doing good enough for your daughter.
So even if you're a dad right now and you have a teenager or you have somebody who's in their 20s
And you'll you'll read these stories and I'm sure you'll get whether it's flashbacks or even things to look out and prepare for
That you're not going to be able to stop just because you feel like you have the best relationship of all time with your daughter
Because it seems just from what I'm reading that there are going to be those moments
There's going to be those phases and possibly like years where it seems like they're far away from you
So it's cool I think the book is incredible I think I would strongly recommend the book
to every girl that out there.
Yeah, dude.
It's sick.
Even when you were just talking about
in the teenage years,
when they started pushing back,
she was like,
that's when they need you even more.
And it's not even something
that I feel like
you're going to have like a result from.
Yeah.
It's just going to be knowing
that you still have to intentionally
just through your actions,
just show that you're being there
because it's like them testing you
and they might not even know
that they're testing you
because they're so hormonal.
Yeah.
that they might just be resistive to you.
But it's like I feel like the book gives you a lot of good perspective to be prepared for.
Or again, you might be in it.
You might be in those teenage years to where you just, you're able to compartmentalize
and understand what's happening.
And it gives you some good practical ways to continue to show up, even though it probably
doesn't feel like you're showing up.
Yeah.
So the book is incredible so far.
One last note, I would say on the book that was something that caught mind.
attention in the introduction was she said, and this is for any dads out there that, like,
maybe you don't have the strongest relationship with your daughter. She had a great quote in there
saying, this book isn't just for, like, dads at the, you know, precipice of this relationship.
If you're trying to heal or trying to, like, recover that relationship with your daughter,
it is never too late. And that's Meg Meeker's words, and not mine. But she says, you know,
it's never too late to revitalize that relationship. Like, even if you,
are separated from your daughter right now.
Like there's still a place in her heart where like she wants dad, she needs dad.
So I thought those were powerful words.
I was like, damn, dude.
Dude, it's, it's buckle up.
You'll get, you'll get teary-eyed.
Yeah, I'm not, I mean, I didn't last night, but you'll even get teary-eyed over the
stories that you kind of just read about.
That's like, it's just, you know, it's tough.
There were, there were some stuff just at the beginning of chapter one where she was talking
about like sex education and stuff for yeah uh you know what the kids are learning in school and this
book was written i don't know when but it sounds like uh maybe written a ways back not too far back
but like we have google yeah we do have google there's gonna be one story you come up on here
pretty soon to where it's like the the daughter something happened to the daughter and she kind
of told her dad and her dad was going off for like a um uh 2006 okay because yeah i
Oh, six.
Her dad was going out for a tea time, and the daughter was kind of telling her dad,
and he just made the comment like, oh, boys will be boys.
And just that comment right there, and it dives into that girl's story.
And it just, I don't know, man, you'll get a lot of perspective, a lot of like, oh, shit.
Stuff that you'll just think about, like, as a man, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
That if you don't know any better, you get caught up and hearing the whole boys will be boys phrase.
Yeah.
And now that it's like you have a daughter and you're,
you're seeing it from a whole different perspective and a whole different lens.
You just realize how truly important, like those moments are.
It's, you'll like it.
Damn, I'm stoked.
You'll like it.
But that was my crackicle one.
And did you already do your crackicle one?
My cracker call was finding your way back to your team.
Oh, yeah.
My cracker call one ended in a phone call to the missus.
Just, hey, sweet, I just want you to know, is this a bit?
Okay.
I'm on the show. You are calling me out saying that this is a bit, but I do mean every word that I'm saying.
I was just checking my miss calls because I saw a Jay on there for Jill. But it was actually
Jared Beeman, who might be the second most important J in my life. Yeah, Jared Demon. Jared Deeman.
That's a producer here. Oh, we got, we got, you have a what are the odds? I do have a what are the odds.
I put Will on the spot earlier. I've warned you multiple times. This has been a recurring issue with me.
at my past jobs. I do a very poor job of asking for PTO in advance. I feel like this was
well in advance though, but I did put you on the spot in front of chef and I said, hey,
Baylor is playing Auburn for their season opener night game, Blackout in Waco. I already
bought tickets for it. What are the odds? Night game, Blackout, Waco. Scarlet is going. Yeah, that was
So Shirm was like, so I got tickets to this game.
It's like August 29th, August 28th, somewhere around there.
Yeah, paternity leave.
I know I got it up until football season starts.
However, once paternity leave ends,
Labor Day weekend.
Yeah.
How about some vacation time?
What are the changes I get out of the office and go to the Baylor home opener, Blackout?
Blackout.
I said, I don't see why not.
I reserve the right to change my mind.
You 100% do.
You 100% do.
I don't see why not.
I think you are insane.
How old Scarlett are going to be eight weeks?
Yeah.
Maybe two months.
Yeah.
You're taking her to a game?
Hell yeah.
She's going to get the little headphones on.
Hell yeah.
You know you ain't going to, you're not going to be at that entire game.
Oh, yeah.
No, I'll be in the concourse probably, you know, five minutes into the first quarter.
Jill going?
Jill's going.
Okay.
it's a family affair so if it's a full premeditated planned out affair got a hotel room in waco
there's a chance you might get to be at the entire game okay but i would assume eight weeks
postpartum she ain't gonna want to say it that whole fucking game she's gonna be at that game
when you guys get in waco she's gonna be like what the fuck are we doing she and to bring it
to bring it back to our um mother fucked or my mother fucked uh quit talking
about CFB. She's actually very stoked for this outing. Yeah, right now. So you're saying the
what are the odds, shout out Fandul, the what are the odds in this? What are the odds might not even be
with your boss? Yeah, no, the what are the odds are, will we make it through the whole game?
Can Scarlett make it through a full 90 minute game? I think those odds are you got, you got plus
1,500 at least. Okay. I can take what. Make it through the whole game? I mean, I
know that this might be a little TMI and you don't even have to share this is she breastfeeding
yeah i feel so kind of weird but they they have they have the little you know like kids sections
the little baby sections that you go into in the concourse for like the breastfeeding the diaper
changes could be kind of nice could be kind of nice i'm excited to hear how that experience goes
chef said we we might need a dad vlog yeah i mean we are this is for
For the dads.
Can I...
At some point, I would assume we might expand in the vlogs.
Can I...
Could we send somebody down to film that vlog?
Possibly, potentially.
If I buy the game ticket for him.
Well, I mean, that would...
This is where it's like the company would...
Oh, okay.
If we're going to make a vlog out of it, it's for the brand.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
You wouldn't have to come out of pocket to...
Okay.
That could be fun.
That could be fun.
Or it could be the worst vlog ever
Because it's like
Yeah, she, you know
Oh, she's gonna go feed you mind if I
Get the fucking camera out of
Chef and Jared are in the hotel room
While we're trying to put her down
We're like all right guys
Jill, you mind if we film this?
Okay, so Jill, hey, for this scene
It's actually gonna be really good
Because here's what we're gonna do
But yeah, I guess the one of the odds
Is will I make it
Will I go to the game?
Will we make it?
it through the game. I think now that we've talked through this, you'll go to the, yeah, you're
allowed to go. Yes, okay. Let's go. Now the, what are the odds is, will you make it through a full
game? With the misses, like with the squad. And any, any bears out there, any dad bears out there.
You got any tips? You got to eat tips at McLean Stadium. I got to reach out to McLean and
see what's going on. The most important thing is that you and Jill are just committed. Yes, dude.
You guys are committed.
I think you can make it happen.
She told me all she wants.
Again, you keep saying she told me this is a different time frame.
This is different time frame than eight weeks.
But she said the only thing she wants in this world is sushi and alcohol postpartum.
Okay.
And she said as long as she gets a couple dogs and a couple cold ones, a couple Budlights, before the game, she's going to be a happy camper.
She's a big beer girl.
She's a big dog girl.
She loves live sporting events.
I don't think Jill's the issue.
I think Scarlett is the issue.
Again, this is Jill pre-mom.
Internal instincts kick in a little differently.
And maybe she'll be a road dog and none of that will change.
Oh, yeah. And I'll be sober shirm all day.
Yeah.
And let her just, you, babe, you go.
But it's almost like you learn different things on the fly
because moms are so in tune with everything that's going on.
that moments that they find out everything that they put in their body,
it ends up going through if they're breastfeeding.
Oh, yeah.
She wouldn't be able to breastfeed if she's drinking.
She's got pumping dump.
Yeah.
The old pump and dump, yeah.
Fuck.
So you never know.
You never know.
You never know.
Okay.
Godspeed.
Yeah, there's a lot.
It sounds like we're really going to.
Shut up, Pandool.
Shut out.
Oh, sweetheart out.
Hey, sweetheartar, you said we was doing this.
Like, you know, what are the odds of moment presented by Fandle?
We got a, we can't pump and dump the second.
Chefs,
going,
demons going.
They fly,
Will might even go.
I think Will's going to come.
No, Huskers play Cincinnati.
Oh, come on.
August 28th.
Come on,
no.
A Baylor,
two and a half,
by the way,
two and a half dogs.
At home,
night game,
blackout.
Be fun game.
Be a fun game.
Survival kit,
Dad hacks,
we can rip through these.
I see you got a survival kit
one on here.
Like,
again,
survival kit and dad hacks
kind of run,
I feel like they kind of
run together
because my dad hack is almost
my dad hack is a product
I guess I could be survival kit
I guess my dad hack
and that's not even a dad hack
that's a parent hack
even the mom's out there listening
you get that window seat on the plane
make the old dog go in the aisle
I'm telling you that strat right there
that's some high level strat
that's strat
that was a gang crazy after that phone call
but it's a good strat
I love that strat
ain't nobody there ain't
Dad's a vibe with this too.
But I think there's not a dad in the game
that times up bathroom breaks quite like myself.
Yeah, you have said that you have Scotty down almost to the T.
What are you talking about?
I'm talking about bathroom breaks.
Like you use them as like a lifeline.
Oh, you're talking.
You're holding the kid.
You've been putting in the holding time.
You've been looking over at the wife.
She had been on the kid.
Oh, honey, I got to go.
Hold on.
Yeah, hey, Scotty.
Daddy's got to hit the bathroom.
You all float them.
Now it's their turn to hold the kid.
They're not just going to give the kid back to you when you come back from the bathroom.
Yeah, you'll be going to the bathroom doing your thing and all of a sudden the time shifted.
Yeah.
Or it's like you can get an extra couple minutes when she tries to hand Scotty back to eat.
I didn't wash my hands.
Hold on.
Yeah.
Hey, let's go up and get bedtime started.
I'm going to run to the bathroom real quick.
They'll get bedtime started first.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's just a little subtle.
It's a little subtle game.
Okay.
Now I'm just putting out into the universe.
I have a note section that I'll add bathroom breaks to you.
I'll come up with more situations too so that this can be like a solid,
solid clip in the future.
I have a, for mine, I was just going to say I'm looking at my survival kit and my dad hack
and I feel like they should 100% be switched now that I'm looking at it.
Let me go ahead and hit the survival kit.
My survival kit shout out this baby product.
is going to be is called the mom cozy.
What the mom cozy is,
is it,
it's this deal that you put the water in and it heats it up for you.
You charge it,
you have it on the go,
but it heats it up for you.
So if you want to get the water up to 105,
so that way when you have the bottle,
once you get to the formula phase or the formula stage,
or even,
I guess, yeah, breast milk.
You could just put,
you could dump breast milk in it,
and it'll heat it up for you.
So if you're on the go,
grab some,
some room temp water.
Cole, what doesn't even matter?
Throw water in it.
Hit the button.
Gets it up to 95, 105, whatever your desired temperature is.
Yeah.
heats it up to it.
You throw it in the bottle. You put the formula in, you shake it up and you're ready to go.
So my survival kit is called the mom cozy.
Because you'll learn, too, it's like if you're going to go out and you might heat up milk before you go thinking like, all right, she's going to eat or he or she's going to eat in about 20 to 30 minutes. So we'll be able to have a heated bottle in the car for them.
or like there's some backpacks that have like a little insulated
insulated sleeve that you might set it in and hope that it lasts for however long
you need it.
Oh, okay.
But this little mom cozy is like this little portable heat up.
Like it looks like a little, I don't want to say Yeti.
Yeah.
But it's something like that to where you put the water in.
It's got a little, it's got a little battery pack on the bottom that you would charge,
plug in and charge.
You charge it up.
And whenever you turn it on, it'll heat up your water.
to the desired temperature.
This thing looks sick.
Yeah.
I didn't even know.
It's a game changer.
It's a game changer because you can just have in, you know, again, you could just have a bottle of water.
And whenever it's time to eat or time to feed, it could be hours later, but you have this thing and you might be on the go to where you're not anywhere where you can get some hot water or some warm water.
Because usually people are heated up, whether, you know, they get hot water and they set the bottle in the hot water or they got a little bottle warmer in the house.
This is like one on the go.
I didn't even realize that you had to heat it up.
Yeah.
But now, thinking back to one of my favorite movies as a kid, Babysay Out, I don't know if you
ever saw that one.
Burns himself trying to heat up the bottle.
The OG's note, then you know.
Yeah.
I didn't know you had to have heated milk either.
That's crazy.
Okay, Mom Cozy.
Because if you think about it, when they're feeding on the boob, they're getting that body
temperature milk.
It's coming out warm.
bro i've been learning about um a colossum colostrum yeah
dude the female i saw some body like see i saw some yeah yeah yeah the little yeah yeah
listen to this so apparently this is my wife giving me this game okay but apparently
if your kid is like sick or they have a cold or something the mom their body knows
because, yeah, the baby's like communicating with the teat, like when they latch on,
and they're ultimately telling the mom what it needs nutrient-wise, and the mom ultimately
makes it like when they're breastfeeding.
So if they're sick or something, the mom is like formulating something based off the communication
between the nipple and the mouth when they connect that, hey, my body, the baby needs
this right now.
So it provides them the nutrients that they need, even when they're sick.
Shit's crazy.
We're out here looking for aliens.
We've been aliens the whole thing.
time. That's crazy.
Isn't that nuts?
That's so cool, dude.
That is like, the human body is so badass.
Like, the way that everything on Jill's body is just like changing to make this happen is great.
We're talking about like the swelling and the legs and knees.
Jill's gone up like three shoe sizes.
And the fact that there is telepathy between the tit and the baby is nuts.
Yeah.
and then also for any meatheads out there
that they, that
I swear to God, people like sell colostrum
Jill was telling me this.
They will like syringe it out
and they'll freeze it
and then these bodybuilders
are like these juice heads.
Colostrum's one of the best things that you can take from.
Oh yeah, they're like, oh hey, you get some fucking colossum, bro.
Yeah.
You get some colostrum, bro.
Jill told me, registered nurse,
that doesn't, that doesn't do.
the trick for adults.
It does have a lot of nutrients in it,
but it's not worth all the time of
buying some colostrum on the black market.
That's what the streets are saying.
Are you buying colostrum?
You're looking at me like...
I like the supplement colostrum.
I didn't know there's a supplement.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, colostrum's a big thing on the market.
Damn.
You're trying to get jacked.
You want to get some clothes.
You're one of the guys.
You're one of the guys that Joe was talking about.
You'll listen.
She might be wrong in saying that.
Because there seems to be a lot of research behind colostrum.
Yeah, I think so.
Okay.
Maybe I'm mixing up two stories and she was talking about breast milk.
Yeah, so there are guys.
Like I had an ex-neighbor of mine that thinks like boob milk is like the fountain of
you.
So he would tell me, he would tell me like, hey, he would tell Charles if you got any
leftover that you're not going to use.
he'll take it. He said that to her face.
Yes. What was her reaction
to that? Laughter.
Like, because it's hilarious. A nervous laughter?
Like a... Yeah, because we're like friends, you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah. But he's like,
he's dead ass serious.
Oh, but Jarro.
I'll be like, you drink your wife's boot milk,
and he's like, yes.
For him, dude.
Was he jacked? Do you look good?
Yeah, he's a good-looking human being.
Okay. Maybe there is some
science behind it. And Jill's wrong.
That's what he says.
She has to pump and dump.
Yeah.
And the kids like five or something like that and all the guys.
Oh, we grown up.
Oh, yeah.
You're talking about when he comes up to his mom and he's like, he's like,
he's like,
how old is he?
And she's like, she's like, what you say, 48 months or?
Oh, yeah.
She's had some ridiculous amount of months that equals up to like seven.
Yeah, or like 72 months.
He's like, so three.
He's 72 months
Yeah
Oh my God
Great call out from show
I was mixing up the
Yeah there there are cats out there
That drink boob milk
I tasted Charles
I haven't like drank it
You know what I mean
Like I'm gonna use this as a supplement
You did it as like a bit
To be funny
I did it is like
Let me see what this is all about
Yeah yeah yeah
And it really wasn't that bad
I'm gonna try it
I mean it really wasn't that bad
I'm not gonna sit here
And act like I'm not gonna try it
Yeah
But yeah dude
Seeing the Colostrum was
crazy. Yeah, because it's just, it's different for every woman. It's like, um, Charles was having a
really hard time on herself because I want to say with Roo, she might have got to about four months.
And there are some women who, you know, they like freeze their boob milk and they have like
months worth of supply. But it just varies for, it just varies for everybody. Scotty, she had
a little bit more. She's able to do more. Maybe her body was adjusted for the second pregnancy.
Yeah. Because some women will breastfeed for a long time. I don't even know, I don't even want to say
number but they'll be able to breastfeed for like a long time like I'm talking like a year
as long as they can yeah yeah because they're like back in the olden days when like you would have
like a back in the medieval time back in the medieval what would they call those the nursing uh the wet nurse
that I don't know is that what I was it will say it for this story the wet nurse I hope I'm not like
saying something super non-PC but I'm pretty sure that's what it is yeah yeah a wet nurse that just like
she just always had
boob milk going.
So you didn't have to breastfeed.
It was like, you know, put her on nurse.
Yeah, because there's just so many different variables.
One being the mom, like the supply that they have.
And then another one is like if the kid is like breastfeed's well,
sometimes it won't be coming out fast enough.
So they'll be very irritated.
And then you start to switch to the bottle because they're just not getting a lot.
There's a lot of different things that you'll,
that you'll experience in the,
in the postpartum life.
because that's a real thing that goes down.
I feel like I'm in a holding pattern right now with this podcast.
I'm very excited for Scarlett to be here, obviously for Scarlet to be here.
But I feel like just the amount of stuff that's going to hit me in week one, I'm going to...
Yeah, it'll be some fun.
Yeah, it'll be some good storytelling.
You're just going to be sitting there chuckling as I'm, like, cross-eyed and like, what the fuck is going on?
And you'll have different experiences, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Well, I'm assuming that you'll probably have, like, different experiences.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
That it won't be the exact same thing that I experienced, like, everybody, everybody,
Everybody's different, so you just never know.
But it will be, yeah.
It's going to be nuts.
The fact that you're playing this Waco trip.
Week 8.
Week 8 of Scarlet's life.
She's going to go to her first ballgame.
And you think the Bears are going to lose with Scarlet there?
I don't know.
That'd be crazy.
That'd be crazy.
That'd be crazy.
There's no way.
Oh, yeah.
My Survival Kit and Dad Hacks, I'll go really quick.
We have the baby Bresa.
Nice.
that was given to us,
it's kind of like our,
what's that called?
You get the bottle cleaner one or you got like the formula one?
Bottle cleaner one.
Nice.
And that thing is crazy.
I got to see it in action.
Jill also bought the set where it like holds the bottles and stuff for it.
We had it on our,
what was it called where all your gifts are on the internet and your loved ones like?
Registry.
It was on our baby registry.
So shout out whoever got that for us.
but the baby brezah is sick and I'm like why aren't all dishwashers like this now that I think
about it if you just had a smaller dishwasher instead of waiting all for your dishes to just like
collect over a long time and put in this dishwasher where it's so big that's not really like getting
everything why not have like a small concentrated dishwasher like this baby breza that just gets it
dialed and you only put like the cups and plates that you use from dinner in it but watching that
thing work. It was crazy. There might be one
out there. Now as you said, and if there's not, maybe it's
our first product. That'd be sick.
Just create, manufacture
our first product. You're just George
Foreman style pushing these
mini dishwashers. Hey guys,
I'm Will Compton. When I'm not
podcasting, I'm cleaning dishes.
And then
survival, or dad hack
was Goodwill.
Goodwill came in clutch today.
It was a Sunday, all the city dumps
where you can like go legally dump your stuff,
We're cleaning out the house because her parents, my parents, they're all going to be coming in next week because Jill gets induced on the second.
So they're going to come in on the 30th.
The moms, I think, are going to be staying with us kind of on and off.
Everybody has hotel rooms and Airbnbs.
But Jill wants the house looking perfect.
So we're like purging all this stuff.
All the city dumps are closed.
I'm like, where the hell can I take all this stuff today to like get it out here?
Because Jill's like, I want it gone.
Goodwill, dude.
Asked zero questions.
And I'm sitting there, I'm giving them like two or three chances, like the couple in New York.
I'm like, you sure?
Like, I don't know what's down.
I don't know what's in this container.
I don't know what I'm about to like dump in here.
And they're like, oh, well, that's the miscellaneous bin.
So you can just, it was incredible, dude.
It was just a weight off the chest.
So dad hacks, you know, the misses is ever on you.
And it's like, hey, you got to get this stuff out of here.
Go to Goodwill, dude.
They ask zero questions.
Love that.
But be good to them.
Don't give them a bunch of nasty stuff to sift through.
Yeah.
Which I hope I didn't.
I look through it enough that it's like, okay, nothing's going to, you know, poke them.
Piss them off.
Piss them off.
Yeah.
Love that.
But yeah, it's a good little dad hack.
That's it.
That is a good dad hack.
Should we dive into the voicemails?
Let's dive into the voicemails.
Do you want to do a serious one or a funny one first?
Serious.
Okay.
And the serious is not overly serious this week.
It's more so this dad is looking for advice directly from Will Compton.
I cannot answer this question.
Hey, fellas, this is Thomas from Chattanooga.
Want to call in and get some advice from the boys about.
Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers.
And guess what?
We have some big news.
What's the news, dude?
Huge news.
We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it.
people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts.
We're starting a trend.
But this one's extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name,
Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it
one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,
where people could call in and say, hey Jonas,
and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,
and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcast.
Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Keith Giamanka seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad,
but secretly, he became someone else,
a master of disguise who went on a crime spree.
At the time did it seem,
like a crazy idea?
It seemed very crazy, but I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out.
Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong and what that might look like?
No.
I didn't want to manifest that.
I was trying to manifest success.
Every family has its secrets.
But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life?
that is not the look of an innocent man.
This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever
because everything that had existed prior in my reality is now untrue.
Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Making the jump from one to two kids.
My wife's expecting our second in November.
we'll have two under two
just kind of wanted to see what that jump was like
and what to expect from it
all right thanks fellas
Thomas from Chad Nuga appreciate you calling in brother
two under two
I hear is a different animal
you know Charles and I we had our
we were trying to go for 2002
but we obviously if you listen to the IVF podcast
on Bust with the boys around Mother's Day that we dropped it
we had problems getting pregnant
with the second one with Scotty
And so Rue was, I would say, what was Roo?
About two and a half when we had Scotty.
So we didn't necessarily have 2002.
I do hear 2002 is like a different animal because, again, it's like the first one.
They haven't been walking very long.
Rue, I feel like she's not the most useful, but she's somebody who's aware of like she's
wanting to help out.
So I feel like that helps when you have the older one.
They're over two years old.
you'll be you think you'll be playing man to man because you're not necessarily outnumbered yet
you'll be two two v two in the household but you're still somewhat playing a bit of zone defense
because what the older one needs the older one's going to be favoring whether mom or dad at
the time the newborn you guys are going to be able like you already know what to expect out of
the second one because you had the first one so the second one really won't be a problem
once they get sleeping it's it's going to be all about getting them to sleep getting them in a good
rhythm. I would strongly recommend 12 hours by 12 weeks. I forget who the author is, but that's a good
book out there for like, for like sleep training. It's not too aggressive. It's how to get the kid to
adapt to your life versus the other way around. And that was like a method we went by. So really the
first one's all about getting in that good sleep routine because that one again, it's like when
they first come out, it's they're eating every three hours. You kind of know what to expect with that
second one. It's going to be the older one that is going to be experiencing new emotions as they
They're going to have they're used to being the only child.
They're no longer the only child.
Something that we did with Rue because we were very intentional about how we introduced
Scotty into the world with Rue.
And I was getting this stuff from like, honestly, Instagram.
But one thing that we did when Scotty was born is when Roo came to the hospital, we had
our nanny holding Scotty.
We had our nanny holding the newborn.
So that way when Rue walked into the room, the, your first child, you're, you
You and mom are their entire world.
So when she's walking into the room to check on mom,
the entire goal was while I was walking room.
It's like, hey, we're going to go see Mom
and you can meet your new little sister.
So we wanted Rue to see when she walked into the room,
mom not holding the newborn.
Mom who Rue saw as her entire world being mom recovering
from having Scotty the second child.
So Rue could walk in, crawl up on the bed with mom,
check in on mom.
And then we were like, hey, do you want to meet Scotty?
Do you want to meet your baby sister who our nanny was holding?
So as a family, we kind of go over and introduce Rue to Scotty.
So that way, Rue feels like the baby is getting introduced to all of us at the same time, getting introduced to our world.
That was one thing that we did.
The second thing that we did, which Stephen Chay, shout out the boy Stephen Chay for putting me on this.
And I feel like this isn't like a secret or anything.
But when we were taking Scotty home, our second baby home, we were telling Rue as,
we were driving in the car, hey, Scotty got you a present when you get home. And we got her like
some like Elsa, some little like Elsa jewelry or something from the store. So when Rue got home,
Scotty had a gift for her. We're like, hey, Scotty got this gift for you. And Rue opened up.
It was all excited. So we were very intentional about introducing the second baby into our home
with Rue being our oldest. So I would recommend a couple of those things. And then,
it's like how you can immerse your oldest into being helpful with Scotty. You're like, hey,
do you want to, do you want to show Scotty how we do your bedtime routine? That actually kills two
birds with one stone because you're trying to get, you know, it's hard enough to get your
your oldest one in the bedtime routine every night consistently. So you're like, hey, do you want
show Scotty how we do bedtime, how we do our routine? And so Rue would be like helping out,
we do this, we do that, kind of talking to the baby. And in the same breath, Rue's getting ready
for bed. So you're kind of like, you know, you're kind of gaming her up to get ready for bed as well.
She obviously, your oldest doesn't know how to read yet, but we would tell, we would have
Rue like, hey, what book should we read Scotty for the first time? What should we do here? What should we do
there? And so we were, we allowed Rue to be very instrumental into introducing Scotty into
our house. So those would be the things that I would tell you as far as going one to two.
You know, you'll get mixed reviews. You know, you'll have the people that are
like, oh, you only have one kid now, wait until you have the second one. But honestly, dude,
it's not that bad. You're already in your own routine of having a kid in the first place
and balancing work, family, being home, all those different things and helping your wife out.
The second one's really not as difficult when you have two. Obviously, mom's going to be leaning
on you to help with the older one a lot more, getting ready for bed because she's going to be
on a lot more of a routine with the newborn. But it's not as bad as I feel. I feel,
feel like what reviews can be on going one to two. Yeah. And I'm speaking so out of turn. I have no
idea. But I almost see it as like as the two get older, like their relationship starts budding.
Yeah. They're able to start pouring into each other. They're able to kind of entertain each other
in types of ways to where almost like the two dog principle, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. It's like once
they can start smiling.
Like anytime Scotty's like smiling at Roo or,
you know,
because Scotty watches Rue a lot.
Just play and do all the things and just making the comments.
Scotty loves you so much.
Oh, Scotty loves her big sister,
you know,
getting them to say it back and forth.
So Rue feels very connected to Scottie.
And another thing that we would do that I think we learned on Instagram as well,
I know for me I did.
It was like how you kind of talk to the newborn with the oldest sitting there.
So it's like if Rue wants my attention,
to play, hey, dad, dad, can we play hide and seek?
And I know I got to do something with Scotty before I play with Rue.
And I'm trying to be conscious about just telling Rue, like, hey, I got to feed Scotty.
I can't play with you right now.
Instead, I would look to Scotty and be like, hey, all right, Roo, we can play hide and seek.
I just got to tell Scotty something.
Then I look at Scotty.
Hey, Scotty, when I'm done feeding you, I'm going to go have to play hide and seek with
your sister, if that's okay with you.
So I'm kind of telling Scotty, I'm kind of saying that in front of Rue.
I like that.
Rue knows that, oh, dad's going to spend time with me.
He just has to, he's letting Scotty know he's got to play with me before he plays with me.
Yes, dude.
Versus being like, Rue, I can't play with you right now.
I'll play with you after I'm done feeding Scotty.
Because then in their brain, what I've tried, like, learning or gathering, like in their brain, it's like, oh, I'm second fiddle to this new child.
So that could build up some resentment, like, in their brain.
Because, hey, sweetheart, I can't play with you right now.
Let Daddy, Daddy will play with you after I'm done doing what I got to do with Scotty.
Instead, I'll look at Scotty and explain what I'm going to have to do with Roo after I get done executing what I need to execute with the newborn.
Dude, that is some serious game.
You like that?
Yeah.
Dude, shout out Instagram, man.
Yeah, shout out Instagram.
That's so sick.
You like, listen to the breakdown and you hear the why behind it.
And you're like, oh, that makes a lot of sense.
Yes.
And how it could come off to the child that doesn't know any better.
They're just hearing, no, I can't play with you right now.
I got to do this with the newborn.
And it's like, well, you know, where's the time for me?
You know what I mean?
And then it can build up some,
it can build up whatever the resentment is.
Like really the only issue we have with Rue and Scotty is if Rue's just starting to
break down and she sees mom say holding Scotty like it happened today on the, on the flight.
Like Charo had Scotty,
had the carrier and she was strapped to her chest.
And Rue was just like having a little moment.
He's like,
mom, I want you to hold me.
I don't want you to hold Scotty.
Yeah.
So then you got to kind of,
hey, I'll take the baby so she can hold Rue and stuff like that.
But really,
that's about as much jealousy that we've seen.
seeing out of Rue is more of just like when Rue's having a moment and see Scotty being held.
She's like, I want you to hold me.
I don't want you to hold Scotty.
It's very much the power, uh, forgot where I heard this or Reddit, uh, but the power of
we, the power of us, like using those types of terminology with like coworkers, even if it's
a job that only you're going to be doing.
But if you're saying it to your coworker of like, yeah, if we do that, yeah, that's going
to work out.
I think that would be the best option for us.
It's like, integrate.
We're a team.
And like you're letting Rue know like, hey, we are playing high and go seek.
That's a given.
We just got to break it to this little thing over here.
I love that.
Yeah.
It's worked out.
It's been a good move for us.
But that's what I would, that would be my advice on going from one to two.
Let's go.
And then we'll be reaching out to Thomas in Chattanooga to get his address and he'll be receiving.
Did we do a good job following up with our callers from last week?
let's go chef
yeah
so we and yes
our friends
that do the merch stuff
we have like a great doc
that's all put together
we're going to be putting people's addresses
into it
we also you and I need to
write some thank you cards
for those guys as well
that will be included with the merch
I love it so
huge shout out to Thomas
for reaching out
we have another call from Stephen
Stephen? Stephen. Let's go, Stephen. This one might sting for you.
What's up, boys? This is Stephen. I'm currently living in Warner Robbins, Georgia, originally from the borough.
When it comes to kids, let's just talk about the bedtime routine. My kids have had the same bedtime routine since the dawn of time.
7 o'clock they go lay down 8 o'clock they're usually asleep by then
I feel that
So when it comes time to put them in bed at 7 o'clock
It's not just oh hey go to bed at 7 o'clock
No no no no no no my kids I have to put them to bed
So I have to go in their room
I got to make sure the ceiling fans on
I got to turn on the curtain lights
I got to turn on their little box fan
Because we're from the south and we got to have two fans in our bedroom at all the times
Shout out.
Then I got to cover them up and kiss them and tell them good night.
And all this time, they know they're going to be thirsty.
They know they're going to want water.
My daughters have a billion watercups.
You know, they got the O'Wallis.
They got the Stanleys.
Do you think they fill that thing up knowing they want it before bed?
Absolutely not.
So as I finish the routine, I kiss them and tell them good night.
I go to leave the room and I hear, can you fill up my awala?
And the rage that fills up inside of me could blow the roof off the building.
Because they have known since I started putting them to bed that they were going to be thirsty.
Bedtime routine, super important.
But I know I'm not the only one out there that gets frustrated by it.
And then I just sit here and think, I just cannot wait for them to get older and put themselves to bed.
And I cannot wait until they put themselves to bed.
I got a 12-year-old boy and I got three daughters, 10-year-old, 8-year-old, and a 3-year-old.
That's my story.
Shout out to the boys.
Have a good day.
Stephen from Georgia, appreciate you calling in.
The first thing I would say, listen, I can tell about your voice.
I know you're in it right now.
I know you're in it and you said the words
I can't wait until they can put themselves to bed
but I need you just to pause for me
and I need you to understand
all of us dads,
all of us parents. I
have those thoughts many times throughout the week
and I have to just remind myself
that one day, one day we're going
to be old and all of these kids are going to
be out of the house and we're going to be
lonely and we're going to be trying to talk
to our wives about the college football schedule
coming up and they ain't going to want to hear it, they're not going to care
you're going to be an empty nester
and you're going to wish that you were back in this moment
hoping that you can put your daughter to bed
and she can annoy you by saying,
hey, dad,
dad,
can you fill up my,
what did he call it?
The O'wala.
The O'wala.
The O'wala.
You are going to miss that one day
and we both know that you're going to.
And I know as I sit there and say this,
you're like,
God damn it.
I know he's right.
Because we all go through that shit.
We always get so mad.
When you get him to bed,
hey, dad,
dad,
I'm hungry all of a sudden.
It's like,
buddy, Rue, that is why you had to eat your dinner.
There's no snacking.
There's no snacking in night.
We got to set a precedent.
We got to stand on business.
Dad, I go through the water phase or we're in the water phase.
Like, Dad, that kind of have some water.
I'll already kind of have it filled up.
But here would be some unsolicited advice that I would give you before you enter that war room each night.
Is you lay out the expectation of bedtime.
And it doesn't always go smooth.
It doesn't.
We know that it doesn't.
But if you lay out the expectation, like, hey, we're going to have a good, clean, fun bedtime.
We're going to have a consistent bedtime tonight.
No problems.
Does the heart need to turn black for bedtime?
Yeah.
When you hear that door click, your heart needs to turn black, knowing that you have a mission to
accomplish that is bedtime.
Yeah.
And you lay out the expectations.
like, hey, we're going to get your PJs on.
Roo, she'll still wear a pull-up.
We're going to get the pull-up.
We're going to get the PJs on.
That hasn't necessarily been a problem unless she wants to go see mom
and give her a hug before bed.
Yeah, yeah.
We're going to brush your teeth.
Dad is going to brush your hair.
I'm going to start low on the hair just like you like it.
We're not going to try to minimize as many tangles as possible.
I know dad's feel me on that.
It's kind of a learning curve when you're going through brushing the hair.
You got to start low.
You got to start at the bottom.
That's game.
We're going to get your PJs on.
we're going to read two books
because what you don't want to get into
is you get on a rhythm,
you build some momentum
because dads,
I know we're all good storytellers out there
when we're hitting the green eggs and ham
we're hitting the fancy Nancy.
I'm reading Ziggy and the three little pigs right now.
Yes, they've added a fourth pig.
Hungry, hungry caterpillar.
Hungry, hungry caterpillar.
You set the precedent with two books.
We're going to read two books.
We're going to brush your teeth
and we're going to get in bed.
I love that.
And when we get in bed,
you better not be thirsty.
If you need to drink a water,
you're going to drink it before you get,
you're going to drink it before you brush your teeth.
Now, when you get to bed,
they're still going to want that water.
Yeah.
However, now that you set precedent
and you set expectation,
you can look at them,
say, sweetheart,
I have a water bottle sitting over there right now.
We're not going to drink this water long
because dad had already told you
that we're not drinking water once we get in bed.
Yeah.
Now you go,
give them the water, they take a little sip and be like, that one's on the house.
Next time it's going to cost you.
But you got to understand that, dad has said we weren't going to have water.
So that way it just starts to cultivate a behavior to where at least they think twice about getting the water.
And if they do get the water, they're going to keep it short.
They're going to keep it sweet.
That would be my advice.
So don't have water living on the nightstand.
So we started that way.
Okay.
But when I knew she was going to get me for some water, I would already have it kind of filled up.
Yeah.
And I wouldn't fill it up very much.
When she's like, I need more water, it's like, Sweet, are we both know you're going to wet the bed if you drink more water?
Yeah.
She might throw fin and I might end up getting her more water.
But what I try to set the expectation on is this is all the water you have.
And when it's gone, it's gone.
So you can have your water in the crib.
I'll let you keep it in the crib if you want to.
But there's only like a little bit of water in there.
So she can utilize the water if she wants to.
She's trying to stay up
She's trying to continue to stay up
And find new things
When she was younger
It would be she has to tell the stairs
A good night
She has to tell the rail good night
She's just tell all of her stuff to animals
Good night
Yep
I gotta go tell this door good night
You gotta take them all around the house
To say good night to everything
Yeah yeah yeah
But you realize they're strategizing against you
They're negotiating to stay up longer
It's all about setting expectations
Right from the jump
And those expectations
They always they won't go according
the plan. However, you're setting expectations. So that way when they get there, listen, I'll get you
out of bed. We can go say good night to the world one more time at the window. But whenever we say
good night, we're not going anywhere else. We're going in the bed, okay. You make them say okay.
And when they say okay, you get them up, you go over there. When they say good night to the world,
where do we go now? We go to bed. Can I pitch you a plan really quick since I have not gone through
bedtime routine? Yeah. And you tell me if this is a good plan. Yeah. I get daughter. I get
get Scarlett. I say, hey, Scarlett, we're going to go get our night-night water. It's the only water
that we're going to get before night-night. This is it. Let's go fill it up together. We go fill it up.
Scarlett, I know that you want to say nine-night to the stairs, to the railing. Let's go ahead and
do that. I'm holding her water. We're telling night-night to all the stuff that we want to do.
I'm knocking out all the things that she's wanting to do with her before bed. And after we do this,
we're going to bed. Let's sell the stuffed animals night-night. Let's sell the blah, blah, blah.
Is that too much to, like, feed into those little things that she's wanting to do?
Am I giving her too much of what she wants?
You won't know until she starts negotiating with you.
And then after a few days, you're going to understand what her rhythm is.
And what is imperative is you don't go one by one is that you just lay out the plan before it happens.
So if we're going to go down and get water, we're going to say good night to the stuff in or whatever their cadence is.
Yeah, yeah.
We're going to go downstairs and get water.
We're going to say good night to the animals.
and when we say good night to the animals,
after the last one, we're going to get in bed, okay?
Once they say, okay, they might want something else
and they might be crying about something else.
You got to know that you've got to give them enough of what they're wanting,
but then you implement the expectation of bedtime
after that second or third thing out of their list of five.
Hey, you're not getting all five.
Here's the three that I'll give you because you know it's bedtime right now.
Here's the two or three that I'll give you.
We'll go do those things.
but after that second or third one
we're now getting we're going to get back in bed okay
is that a deal they'll say okay
so then you start hitting the things where do we go to next
bedtime two books
yeah I'm a two book guy
I'm a two book guy
she'll get me up to three four every now and then
come come
sometimes you got to negotiate two it'll be like
you might get two books and it's like I won't
I want one more book and they're not one to go brush her teeth
like hey sweetheart here's what we can do
let's brush your teeth
we'll get you in bed and I'll read you one more book.
They might not want it.
They might want the book on the couch.
So again, you got it.
It's going to be instinct.
It's going to be in the moment.
But you're going to have to give to get some.
It's all about places.
It's all about setting the expectation.
That's all I'll say.
It's all about setting the expectation, laying out the expectation and getting them to say
okay, getting them to think like, okay, that is a good deal.
I can get those couple things.
Okay.
I feel comfortable with that.
Yeah.
You'll rock it.
I'm definitely like just from the relationship of Jill and I with our dogs like I know that I'm going to have to be the disciplinarian the one that's kind of you know set in that line and as our miss miss miss miss miss is telling me or dr meke is telling me and strong father strong daughters like I'm I'm gonna be driving the boat yeah so I'm I'm already just from my poor performance with Rue and her sticker book of giving her exactly what you wanted in the
in the moment.
And given JJ here in the office
exactly what he wanted in the moment.
I'm just like, man, I got to
with Scarlet, I got to lock in.
Yeah.
My heart has to turn black at some point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And dad has is going to have to step up
and say,
no, no, no, no.
That's not how it's going to go down.
You got to know,
when you realize what they want,
you got to think in your mind,
I'm going to give them what they want,
but you have to follow it up
with what your expectation
is going to be after that
and then get them to say,
okay.
and then when it happens,
then they know what do we do next,
we get in bed.
Are you ever doing story times?
Like,
are you ever making stuff up?
I feel like you'd be good at that.
I will if I get the light off
and I'm laying next to her because she loves
when Dad-Dad lays next to her in bed at night.
So I'll, like, lay down by her crib
because, you know, the low back,
I'm not trying to, like, stand up the entire time
or sit.
Sometimes I get a comfortable sitting.
So I'll be, like, laying down on a pillow next to her crib.
Yeah.
And she wants another story.
I'll just be, how about Dad-Dad tells you a story?
And then I'll just,
I'll just riff on something and tell her a story.
Usually like something,
it's like a sports moment that happened back in my,
that happened back in the day.
Oh.
Yeah, of myself.
And I'll just make up a different character.
Dude, I can't believe, or I can't wait until she becomes like,
aware of your playing background.
That's going to be fun.
I know, it'll be interesting because it won't mean shit to them.
No, it'll mean shit when it's cool.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, like elementary time.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
But that's, yeah.
I'll riff and do some story time.
I love reading the children's books
because I love doing different voices.
Like she would be on a kick of like Beauty and the Beast,
changing beast voice,
like changing all the voices.
I love doing that kind of stuff.
Oh, dude.
Shout out Brett Burford.
He was our neighbor.
He would sometimes he and his wife would babysit
while my dad and mom like went out to dinner.
He would read us the OG Harry Potter's,
which Miss Amy was not a fan of, my mom.
Yeah.
I don't think she knew that he was reading us Harry Potter,
but he would get into that Hagrid voice
and get into that Dumbledore voice.
I still remember that.
I'm 32 years old and I still just die and laughing.
You're a wizard, Harry.
Oh, it's a lecture.
You'll eat that stuff up.
We have our topic, quote, or lesson of the week.
So mine is going to come from,
let me find it.
Mine is going to come from the Daily Dad by Ryan Holiday.
This book right here,
highly recommend.
Great one to have just on the dinner table.
If you're eating every night, just a little breakup session, like, hey, you want Dad to read something out of his book?
She'll say yes.
And then we'll read something out of the Daily Dead.
366 meditations on parenting, love, and raising great kids by Ryan Holiday, a number one New York Times bestselling author of The Obstacle is the Way in the Daily Stoic.
I'm big in the Stoicism.
Love Ryan Holiday's books.
So we rock the Daily Dad for dinner time.
Shout out going 110%.
I see they went one day extra of a 365 day.
Yeah, right?
Yeah, yeah.
You can appreciate that.
Yeah, but also it's a flex.
Like, what are you trying to just make an extra day?
Come on, Ryan.
Come on, right.
This is one for, man, I'm stuck between two.
This one's called Just Go to Bed.
So this is for dads out there, and this is great for us because we love staying up and playing PubG.
A lot of career guys out there
A lot of working dads
A lot of working moms
That stay up late
And sacrifice their sleep
To stay up late
Doing whatever they're doing
In our case,
sometimes I'll stay up late
Playing a video game
Or just doom scrolling
Because is...
Is he about to tell us
Not to do that?
He's not about to tell you not to do it.
I'll read it to you.
I'll read it to you.
Okay.
Here's a quote from Arthur
Chopin-Hauer
Sleep is the interest
We have to pay on the capital
Which is called in at death.
The higher the interest rate
and the more regularly it is paid, the further the date of redemption is postponed.
All right, here it is.
You know your kids are a mess when they don't sleep.
That's why you follow the bedtime ritual religiously.
You know that kids get into trouble at night if left to their own devices.
That's why your teenager has a curfew that you enforce with an iron fist.
And yet here you are up late again, mindlessly watching TV.
Here you are tired in the morning again because you were up late on your phone.
You could have gone to bed
You knew you should have gone to bed
But you didn't
Who suffers? Your kids do
Because you're grouchy
Because you don't have the energy
Because you're behind
Because maybe they even sense
That you're a hypocrite
If you want to be a better parent
Start going to bed earlier
Give yourself a bedtime
That you honor and respect and enforce
Value sleep
Take care of yourself
And everyone else will benefit
That hits home, dude
We do stay out
We are two
really bad.
Yeah, we can be a couple times.
Definitely those couple nights a week
that we'll stay up playing the video game.
Doesn't mean I'm going to stop playing.
Yeah, how...
Just means that this is a great reminder
that even when you do stay up late,
you're just aware that we are doing it to ourselves.
That almost makes...
Versus, staying up late, your grouch,
you're kind of pissing a moment everybody,
you're making it, you're just in a bad mood
because you stayed up late,
you feel bad about yourself for doing it,
you're just more so projecting on everybody else.
Something like this right here just makes me aware that I am doing it to myself.
So be aware and be intentional of it the next day to know like if I am going off the rocker a little bit,
that it's only because I did it to myself the night before.
That just inspired me as far as PubG nights ago because now I know the cost.
And it's a cost that we will continue to pay.
It is a cost.
Like, they didn't know that we got to be accountability buddies the next day.
Truly.
Yeah.
Which I feel like we already kind of do at the office those next days.
Like I pump coffee into my veins.
I'm like, I know what I did.
Yeah.
And I'm, but I got to show up this next day and kick ass.
But I do love that message just because as far as work goes, I obviously don't have a kid yet.
But as far as work goes, dude, when I'm getting.
that sleep it's crazy how much better I'm operating and so applying that to like you know being
able to have those conversations with my kids and my wife and be more there be more present yeah
that's a that's a good learning lesson did you have another one it's a good little reminder I did
have two I might as well just read the second one here this one's called um it's good that you worry
about this a quote from uh michael ian black one great thing about having kids is that they
force you into an active practice of love whether you're ready for it or not. The question hits
you in a soft place. It hits you when you least expect it. And yet it's there constantly. Am I a good
parent? Am I screwing this up? Your own parents will try to reassure you that every parent thinks this way.
Except that's not true. There are in fact two types of parents who never think that. There are parents who
are so convinced that they're the center of the universe that they never question themselves,
never wonder what they're doing wrong.
Then there are parents who don't even care enough to ask.
Although they are very different, in the end,
these two types of parents are the same.
They are not good parents.
But you, the type who is always checking in and wondering,
am I doing enough, who actually cares about whether you're doing a good job or not,
you are by definition, a good parent because you are thinking about your kids first,
not yourself.
It's proof that you care, that you have self-awareness,
that you're always trying to improve,
that you would stop to evaluate your own performance,
that it would bother you to give anything less
than the full measure of your devotion
is all the evidence you need to reach a positive conclusion.
So if you feel that negative thought,
that doubt come up today, be reassured.
It means that you're putting them first
and it means that you're doing a good job.
I like that a lot.
Yeah, solid one for parents.
It kind of sucks to read the,
where he just says they're not good parents because I'm sure it's like you know I feel like every
parent kind of thinks are wonders if they're doing a good job or not of course yes everybody
thinks about anything in their life not just parenting of like am i a good friend am i a good husband
am i a good employee yeah I guess it's like a good um reminder or shift in perspective
of asking yourself like have i checked in with the why have i have i
checked in with my wife have i checked in with my kids have i checked in with myself to kind of measure
performance whatever that performance is i don't think there is like a measuring stick for it
yeah but if you're at least like conscious of it enough to think like so because we don't know what
our blind spots are unless we ask people in our close circle you know what i mean yeah i know exactly
what you mean it's something that i'm already starting to think about with like the everything that's
coming up and like the next three weeks for me are about to be a whirlwind it's about to be crazy yeah
And I'm already starting to think to myself about, like, still trying to prioritize Jill, even though Scarlett is going to be in the picture.
And, like, that's going to be our main focus, no matter what.
But with postpartum depression and all the things that you hear of, like, hey, is Jill, like, am I doing enough for Scarlet?
But am I also doing enough to support Jill?
And is Jill okay in this moment?
you know it's i feel like it's one of those things that like the like we were talking about
last week when you ask yourself you're like man i hope i'm going to be a good dad it's like
the fact that you're asking yourself that uh or that you're wanting that that's already a good
son yeah yeah it's uh and if you're somebody out there thinking of because i like what you said
about like just you know making sure jill's all right if jill's good being on the same page with jill
it's like essentially asking your wife those questions like you know hey am i doing enough what do you
need for me right now or am i operating how you would assume if you could give me a performance evaluation
right now and some of those questions or some of those thoughts might be like scared to have with your
wife like if you're a dad right now listening thinking to yourself like maybe i haven't checked in with
myself recently or i haven't checked in with my wife and it could be like a frightening thing because
you might know what the answer is you almost just have to
you almost have to lean in and still seek those answers that you might not be excited to hear.
Because it's one thing that we talk about all the time is like conflict delayed is conflict multiplied.
Yeah.
And so if you don't seek out those answers and rip that band-aid off and kind of hear something that you might not be ready to hear, it would be just to open that door.
It would be like, yeah, open that door and face it and have those conversations.
Because that's how you know, right?
Like anytime like I might not be doing something well enough or when Charles and I are laying,
in bed and it's just as simple as like, you know, hey, what do you need out of me this week?
Where it's like, we should know that answer, but it's almost allowing the space for that
conversation to happen and them to even say it out loud or the fact that you're even asking.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like, I feel like I feel like I fell short here and you're seeking feedback,
whatever that might be. It's like all those conversations are important. I, I 100% have not checked in
with Jill like that.
I'm trying to remember the last time that I've done that.
I've truly.
Yeah.
And me intentionally, I don't, I'm not thinking of the last time I actually did that.
Charon and I will do, as you know, couples therapy.
So I feel like that stuff comes out when we're sitting down talking about it.
And sometimes you're just not, you're not privy or you're not aware.
It's like, oh, snap.
I didn't know that, you know, this was happening or this was in your mind.
And I can do a better job of seeking out whether it's that information.
her feelings in a certain situation.
But yeah, dude.
Which I got to get that dialed in too.
What?
Couple therapy.
That's another thing that Jill and I did premarital stuff.
Yeah, premarital counseling, yeah.
Prepping for, and it was awesome, dude.
And I feel like every two weeks, we're like,
God, we got to get that counselor thing set up.
We got to, you know, what's your therapist in Nashville?
Yeah.
I'll ask Will.
I heard that he does couples, you know.
Yeah, we love doing it.
There are times where I'm not necessarily sure what we're going to talk about going into it,
because I'm like, I feel like everything has been going pretty smooth.
And I'm not one of those types who likes to just sit in like what we're feeling in every moment.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
You know, I'm like a guy's guy, I guess, when it comes to that.
But I do enjoy, I do have a different perspective on therapy since doing it and going to it.
Because I do feel like we get a lot out of it because you have a third-party perspective that has zero bias toward
either of our lives.
Yes.
Helping us kind of talk through
what our differences might be
and they're there to kind of help you zoom out
and see it for what it is
and you like learn a different skill set of communication
and what like what your triggers are
and you come to find out you get some stuff off your chest
that you might have been feeling
and you didn't necessarily know that you were feeling.
So I was really shaky on it at first.
At times I'm not like the biggest fan of going in
and talking about all the emotions and the feelings of everything
is like hey we know we have to do.
why sit in this for an hour of our time but every time we leave a uh a session we always feel like a lot better
a hundred percent we always feel a lot better a hundred percent that got me stoked that got me
wanting to uh i know jill's going to be asleep when i get home tonight but buddy it's fucking
11 30 at night oh i know i've been a long one i hope you guys have enjoyed it uh we went a little
longer than even last week but you guys said a fucking just let it rip don't
Cut it short.
Yeah, we like the longer ones.
Hopefully you guys do.
Hopefully you guys enjoyed this one.
Shout out all the dads, man.
Shout out everybody tune in.
Whether your mom, a dad, somebody just interested in parenting,
or you guys just like listening to me and Shroom talk about stuff like this.
We appreciate it, man.
We appreciate it.
Shout out the guy that says on a tractor and he said, make it three hours.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Did you see that one?
No, I did not see that one.
It was a great call.
But I am laughing like I did hear that one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, for the dads.
Let's fucking take out the trash, boys.
Come home.
Yeah, that was...
Was that on purpose?
No, I just flipped it.
That's two and around.
That's two and around.
Great sewed.
Tell my wife, hey, probably 10.30.
Hey, guys, it's us.
The Jonas Brothers.
I'm Joe.
I'm Kevin.
And I'm Nick.
And guess what?
We created our own podcast called...
Hey, Jonas.
We invented a podcast.
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
We get to...
ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.
Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick.
Tired and sick.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Just listen.
We don't care where you hear it.
What's up, fam?
It's Isaiah Thomas.
And I'm C.J. Toledano.
It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs.
We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season.
And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments.
If we didn't talk ever again, I was funny.
You just understood.
That's how personal it got.
Wow.
Then after that game seven, Marquis come in to him, he's like, you know I love you, dog.
You know, it's all love.
This was just playoffs.
This was just basketball.
So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This is an IHeart podcast.
Guaranteed human.
