Bussin' With The Boys - Zach Top’s New Single ‘Good Times & Tan Lines’ + Taylor Lewan Reacts To First Pitch Fiasco | Bussin'

Episode Date: June 10, 2025

Recorded: June 09, 2025 Will Compton and Taylor Lewan are joined by one of the fastest-rising stars in country music, Zach Top, recently named 2025 ACM New Male Artist of the Year. With his breakout hit "Good Times & Tan Lines" and a sound that blends bluegrass with '90s country nostalgia, Zach is quickly becoming a household name in Music City. Before the interview, Taylor Lewan addresses his viral first pitch debacle at the St. Louis Cardinals game, giving fans his full breakdown of what really happened. Will Compton then recaps an unforgettable weekend at UFC 316 with Dana White—including an unexpected run-in with President Donald Trump. In the interview, Zach Top opens up about his musical journey, including the early days of his family band Top String, his move to Nashville, and the mentor who helped guide his career. He shares honest thoughts on the current state of country music, the transition from bluegrass to mainstream, and what it felt like to finally play the Grand Ole Opry. Zach also talks about meeting legends like George Strait and Alan Jackson. On the lighter side, the boys dive into pre-show rituals, life on the road, a potential future Beer Olympics appearance, and Zach’s close-knit relationship with his bandmates. In Ro Spicy Tier Talk, they break down the best love songs of all time. Plus, Zach responds to the Bud Light "What Would You Do Anything For?" challenge and teases what’s next—could a new album be dropping soon? Father's Day Merch Available @ BWTB.com! Big Hugs and Tiny Kisses! TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro4:32 Taylor’s First Pitch30:20 Weekend Recap50:47 Dad Combine53:09 New NIL Rules1:03:52 ZACH TOP INTERVIEW STARTS1:06:08 Getting Into Music1:12:16 Sports He Played Growing Up1:18:01 Growing Up On A Farm1:19:18 When Did He Think He Could Make It In Music?1:26:19 Was Nashville Intimidating?1:31:39 Trusting Your Mentor1:35:35 Thoughts On Current State Of Country Music1:37:42 Going From Bluegrass To Country1:39:50 Meeting The Artists He Looks Up To1:52:32 Bring Back The Family Band?1:55:27 The History Of The Opry1:57:57 Is He Superstitious? 1:59:25 Life On The Road2:02:37 Beer Olympics?2:09:12 His Relationship With his Band Members 2:10:56 What Sports Does He Watch Now?2:26:30 Ro Spicy Tier Talk: Love Songs2:36:46 New Single “Good Times And Tan Lines” 2:40:16 Did He Have A Rebellious Phase?2:44:37 Bud Light: What Would You Do Anything For?2:50:57 New Album Coming Soon?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Not too much, but enough that hurt my, hurt me a little bit. My, uh, my parlay hit. Yeah. Let's give a will about a round. UFC parlay hits. The drought is over. drought is over for you yeah for myself yeah yeah the UFC my drought is over because it's been a while right you had you run a tough little streak there hockey basketball I want to say it was the first parlay

I've won I think I was going to say this year but if I won't want to March madness then got that one mm-hmm I haven't put too many together however I've been very gun shy because of my luck and uh yeah yeah joe pifer Kayla Harrison and Marab Marab by the way put it on absolute display cashed the minute that fight ended will looks me in the eyes you goes that's a champion for a very long time but then you know they say about Parles when you're in a when you're in a slump what do you do just keep you just keep swinging keep swinging which brings me to my next subject that everybody in the entire world wants to talk about it's hard to beat a guy that refuses to quit it's hard to be the guy that refuses to quit and I am now taking that

for myself. For what? Moment of silence, your debacle, embarrassing first pitch. Moment of silence for my athletic career. It officially ended on Thursday. Thank you. Thank you very much. Let's talk about it, boys.

So we fly into St. Louis on Thursday, vibes are so high. We're going to the Cardinals game. Then after that, we're headed over to first form. I'm going to check out everything all over the place. Form energy is coming out. We're a part of this massive thing where Anheiser Bush, Dana White, first form, are coming together as a three-headed monster. fueled by bustling with the boys to promote and just kick down the door of energy drinks on energy drinks.

Here's what they're doing. Anheiser Bush, Dana White first form. They're making a baby and they're making us the godparents. We're the godparents. We're the godparents of this baby of form energy. For some reason, if Dana White first form in a 165 year organization that's in the absolute staple, that's an absolute staple of America goes down, then we take over. Yeah. We got to get that in writing first, but right now it's more of a figurative deal. So the vibes are super high. We get, we land in St. Louis. I'm actually already a little impressed. I don't know what to expect.

I hear the way Will talks about Bontera. I know it's 45 minutes away, but I'm just thinking to myself, the state of Missouri, show me. And guess what? They showed me. They showed out. They showed out. Pull up.

Chrissy baby's in the car. He's got himself a nice, all blacked out vehicle for us. We walk in, there's first form stuff everywhere. And we're talking about the first pitch that's about to take place. There's a, the Garrett was with us, he's doing the vlog. I'm telling him, buddy, when I was, you know, 11, 12 years old and I used to step on the mountain in Little League, I was throwing fucking heat. I threw heat back in day, million dollar arm, five cent head.

That's a Bull Durham reference. If you guys don't know that. And I would literally, I threw a no hitter. Catch me up on your baseball career because I feel like I was first under the impression that you were 12 and getting on the mound. The impression I had of you playing baseball was you didn't like baseball when you got hit. quit you were scared there's different things yeah yes there's different things in the field i enjoyed the defensive portion of baseball i did struggle with the uh the confidence the courage of stepping into

a pitch in the batters box as a young child but i did it as most american young boys did right i hit the t-ball early my father had me out in the backyard we would play catch periodically mostly on the weekdays when he got off of work catch a nice little meal and then go outside i was always a fast young lad then i realized my speed would translate into the outfield then I figured out I'm I'm told than the rest of these kids my dad puts me on the mount had a little whip had a little zip in my arm and so as I get older and older I played from five to 11 or 12 I can't remember I ended 12 or 12 was my last season was on a AAA baseball team triple A travel Arizona baseball team Silverhawks we were fucking awful but your boy was on that team

we traveled all over the place and did that there was a there was a a thing that took place like a little league they brought all the teams from Arizona or like you know it's like an invite thing you get invited and all these kids they have a home run derby fastest pitch all these things I ran the bases and I have a plaque that I hope my dad brings to the dad combine that says taro leone fastest 12 year old baseball player in the state of Arizona so I won that I won that so baseball was a was a part of my life I had a i had a Yankees now was there like you qualify and you keep going to a state and then you win at running the bases or something? No, this is in high school.

This is like we all, it's, it's not as cool as the plaque it says. Like you got there. You were like fast in the team that gave you a flag. Every team, every team gave, like put out their fastest player. And I just happened to be the fastest player of all the team's players. Does that make sense? Yeah. So 12 hits, puberty hits.

I start becoming a skid and running dirt bikes. I'm smoking half smoke cigarettes out of a target, ashtray. And then, you know, I, so on and so forth, end up finding football. that was kind of the last time I played baseball but always enjoyed catch always enjoyed ripping it up I think I've played catch with probably all of you at some point in our lives and our time to be together

so when we go to this cardinal game I'm fired up we threw the pitch of the sounds I was nervous about that just kind of tossed it in there whatever this time I'm thinking I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna house this thing in here and it might go a million different directions but we're at the end of day we're gonna go

hey that was a fast pitch that was my thought process the entire pregame was like I'm just gonna throw in its whole hard as I can. Right. I don't care if I missed the strike zone. I'm just going to throw it as hard as I can.

And we're going to see what happens. Yeah. So we get to the Cardinal Stadium. It's incredible. I mean, they have a little like area where all the people, where all the people hang out where there's really a fan dual sports book. Then there's like a first form banner.

And then the stadium on the, and the center field just says Budweiser. Like, we're literally sitting here being like, this is. We're home. We're home. We're home.

This is amazing. And this is everything bustling with the boys is backed by. It's a part of that we believe in. Everything's going our way. The people were great. Shout out Adam Freud. The entire team at St. Louis Cardinals that was kind of hosting us. Shout at the boy Kyle, who was ripping with Chris.

Yeah. We had a good St. Louis squad. We had a great St. Louis squad. And who was the baseball player that you knew that you got tickets for Shane's thing? Lars. Lars. So we see Lars. Lars is a homie.

He's sitting there. Like this is a dude. MLB cat, cut off shirt, cocked to the side, just kind of hanging out. a fan of us and I'm thinking this bro, bro, you're a baseball player. Like this is, you're in a totally different world than us. Bro, bro. But you're on a, bro, you're on a major league baseball team, which is one of the hardest. If you look at the path of getting to a professional sport, baseball could arguably the hardest, maybe hockey as well. I'm sure soccer has there. I don't

know a lot about soccer. We go in and we see the whole, the, they're hitting process, they're hitting. Yeah, large, like, do you guys want to come to the hitting meeting? Yeah. Yeah, if we're allowed to. And we sit there and we're like, you know, we're watching these guys go over the pitcher when he has the glove towards like more his belly button it's going to be like a change up when it's a little bit higher that's a fastball or something else something if somebody's on second base if you can

get tipped off in this you'll you'll do a sign we don't want to give up the signs well they you know you're right you know what I'm saying it was the other hand out to the right yeah they put their hand out to the right I'm just saying there's just a lot more that goes into the detail of baseball right than I realize like I assume they probably like watch film and stuff but not to the

level of detail that they're sitting there talking about and if you're playing as many games in baseball as you do a year. I don't know how much time they're sitting there, you know, doing the recovery process, hitting the gym, like watching the film. As a dumb football player, I think, these boys just go out and play, God given. As I assume a lot of people who watch football are like, these boys just show up on Sunday. Like, what a life they have, right? So it's very cool to see behind the curtain. Pozo, I believe I'm saying his name wrong. I almost can almost guarantee you I'm saying his name wrong is a catcher for the, for the Cardinals. He's hitting there. Boys got a fucking

trunk on him. Let's go ahead and turn that off. Boy's got an absolute trunk on him as he's doing some BP. He walks out and puts his bat down. And I go to grab the bat, but a second, I'm like, I know these boys are stitious, like a different level of stitious. So I don't touch the bat. Pozo walks back up, I go, hey, I was about to touch your bat, but I didn't want to. And he gets very serious face with me. He's like, yeah, don't do that. I go, how superstitious are you? You go, just put it this way. I'm wearing the same pair of Andor, I've worn the whole entire season. Since game one. Since game one. So these guys, these guys are fucking about it. We go outside, I ask for a glove.

He shits in the same stall. He only shits in one stall. Yep. Period. Same, yeah, same shower slot, same stall. Oh, mm-hmm. That's kind of what it looks like. Actually, it's a way cooler version.

So we get out to the field. Get out to the field. We're playing a little catch. We're not allowed to go on the grass yet because the field's crew. They got their whole little deal too. And we're just kind of tossing the ball back and forth. No gloves. We can't really throw it hard.

And we're throwing, and then all of a sudden we get up there. I think we're throwing the first pitch out. Turns out, we're throwing like the fifth and six pitch out. Yep. So kids go out. These two kids. they go out first, Rockets.

They're those things right down the middle. They're a beautiful film. It was cool too because you know like the kids are just elated to be there and then rip one from the mound. We were too. No, I know, but I'm saying they're like

young, young lads, young baseball fans. They're in the prime of just the oh my gosh, what is this? Right. You know what I mean? Someday I'm going to be back up here type of moment. That's the moment. They're watching Fields of Dreams right now getting motivated even more about baseball.

Then we're sitting there and as we're like kind of waiting to get the announcers calling up the next two people. Like, hey, who wants to go first? We're kind of looking at each other. I'll go first. Yeah. I am zero percent worried about this. Zero percent worried about stepping on the mound.

We go up there, they call our names. You know, we're doing wills, wills pose the whole time, staying in character, walk up there. I don't know who the guy catching the ball is. I don't know his last name, but I look at him and I say to him, hey, just so you know, I'm off the ball is how hard as I fucking can. I say that to him. And he goes, okay. Like does, like, could not have given.

less of a fuck about what I just said to him. Could not have cared anymore or any less. I get up to the mound. I stand up there. I'm so confident. I feel so good about this. I think I'm about to catch a contract. And I do my little league, as much as I remember, wind up and the pitch.

And as the ball is leaving my hand, bro, I know. This is not fucking good. This is not good. I don't know if it slipped, what it was. the trajectory of the ball obviously did not go the way we wanted. It was horrendous. It was fucking terrible. I am so mad at myself.

I'm not just mad at myself for me and my athletic ability now being in question throughout the entire world. I'm sorry to the offensive linemen out there who our whole lives. Hey, we've been the chubby kid. Go in the corner. Hey, you're in a block. Don't worry. It's really cool.

You're the backbone of the football team. They tell you all these little phrases make you feel better. And you just want to show everybody. Listen, bro. I am a fucking. I'm really. I truly am an athlete. You just don't get it.

And I'll figure it out eventually. I had every offence alive. Every chubby kid was on my back. Maybe that's why I failed. But every chubby kid figuratively was on my back as I threw that ball. And I shit the bed. I shot the bed. Caught myself 10 push-ups.

You proved you're a great offensive lineman, bro. You proved you a great offense of line. And I was like, yeah, we had a good time with it. Will had a nice little conversation in the car with me. The boys obviously did the thing. I see Brad LeBraw, who's one of our boys. If you remember the wriststream, he was a part of, he's the autistic kid that's that sat in the corner.

I walk in, he dips up Will. The first thing he says is, that was fucking awful, Taylor. He said that was dog shit. He was dog shit. So we got to deal with this. The rest of the weekend, by the way, Will. Your pitch. No one will ever talk about how great that was.

Yeah, it goes unknown, man, after following up on what you through. But here's what I want to show. You see how I get that arm back, how I whip that arm back. I pull it through. Can you go back to Taylor's? See how yours you kind of keep it up in front of you. Your entire body is going that way. You're stiff as a board. You can't get your body around. You got to get your hips around. Yeah, my T-spine. Yeah, you got to get that T-spine mobility. I really. But it's like, you're standing up on the mound and I was before, Garrett's like, are you nervous?

I was like, oh, not really. But internally, you're starting to walk out there and you feel, you know, you have all these people watching you. And you're just standing on the mound. You feel like you're standing on an island by yourself. And everybody's far away from you. They can't engage with you whatsoever. And it's just you and the catcher. And in those moments is when the lights come on and you either put on a show or you fold. And yeah, I think that was like an 84 mile an hour sinker

that I seeded in there. And it felt good because I saw what happened with Taylor right before. When even like I wasn't as nervous when you threw that pitch, but also I'm like, yeah, I guess anything can happen out here. So it kind of sets in the process. pressure sets in a little bit more. So I felt like I was carrying a lot of pressure. I'm just reminding myself grip and rip.

Grip and rip, oh boy, you got this. And, you know, the rest kind of takes care of itself. One little detail before you guys hit the mound. Beautifully said. One detail before you all hit the mound. I hate that that was you before,

but that's kind of my mentality going into this thing. When I zoom out and think about it, like that is what I think about those moments. Very high pressure. And this is what... Not meant for everybody. Yeah, not meant for everybody. for everybody. This is where the men separate from the boys.

That's what I would, honestly, like, that's me objectively saying that if you were no part of this conversation. I wish you weren't, but I hate that you were right before me. Right. Yeah, you're, you're, yeah, you hate for me that I have to be on the other side of being the boy instead of a man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What were you going to say, G? Will did sneak in right before you all went out there that this was his third time throwing out the first pitch. It's my third time. Experience does go a long way. Yeah. Experience goes a long way. Yeah. Experience It was a long way. Yeah.

It was technically my second, though, because the second one I did, my mom threw it. But it was my third time being out there, kind of feeling the noise, feeling the pressure. So the night before I was doing some mental, you know, just visioning, envisioning what this can look like and feel like for myself. I'd like to say, yeah, in the world, I grew up in my mom, she did raining for a little bit professionally. And when you get these horses ready to go and show at these big events, the fraternity is the biggest. You would go to a regular spot. You would invite a bunch of friends over, get them really rowdy and put up banners. So the horse can kind of feel what it's like to be in that environment.

I guess I didn't do that for my own horse, my internal horse. Wednesday night, I was doing breath work. I was envisioning what the hops would smell like around me being in St. Louis, Missouri, the arch behind me, the crowd, people feeling distant, not close enough. And you just got to take in the dirt underneath your feet, the grass surrounding around you, that perfect grass that they wouldn't let a step on. You got to feel the ball in your hands and you just got to send it. You got to grip and rip.

Yeah, well, he's doing that Wednesday night. I'm figuratively out in the bar, gooning, doing whatever. People are like, not watching film. I'm out here thinking, I'm on ball tomorrow. Don't matter.

And not realizing that the preparation that takes place before the pitch is what truly makes the pitch what it is. When people say, Will, that was a great first pitch. In my mind,

I'm thinking, I've already thrown that pitch a thousand times. Right. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. And that's,

that's the mentality I need to take on at this moment in time right now. I need to be better. You'll get redemption. There's no doubt about it. I've already. had a... You've been training.

Should I say the MLB team that's already reached out? Keep it tight to the best. We don't know exactly what we're doing at all. We don't know exactly what we're doing, but we have had multiple teams reach out about me having my redemption. I want to say thank you to those teams. And at a later date, we will give out those teams' names. Thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to make this right.

And no matter what, that final boss has got to be at Bush Stadium. Yes, there's no doubt about it. There's no doubt about it. You got to go back to that fear. Here's what sucks. You throw that pitch, your boys chirpy it is, you're having fun, we're having a good time. The internet gets on you. And you're like, okay, this is great.

And we all know in the game of the internet, eventually there'll be a new new story. Like, interestingly enough, Elon Musk and Trump start going at it. You take over there. Three hours later, I am now that, yeah. So is that a deep state move? I don't know. It's not for me to say. It's not for me.

Exactly. Musk and Trump, one's got a guy, a pedophile. the other one's not really saying it's a weird deal all of a sudden my pitch comes out yeah and I did think that ball was a little slippery and they handed it to me for algorithm's sake maybe Elon tapped in we need a distraction while all this other stuff is going on yeah something's trying to keep putting this in front of everybody's eyes yeah shout out of Elon but yeah man you you you feel it you have the internet do what it's doing and you think all right we're good but I didn't realize like like Like people say that was a lot like 50 cents is pitch.

True. Absolutely. The trajectory of the ball was very similar. Here's a difference between me and 50 cent. One of us hasn't been shot nine times. And one of us wasn't a three-time pro-buller football player, right? So it's okay if the guy who got shot nine times and became super famous for rapping and started a vitamin water company. He couldn't been an athlete, though, if he didn't.

The athlete who's expected to do athletic things. steps on the mount and does the same exact thing. We got a fucking problem. Okay? Because I get to first form. I'm meeting Sal. I mean Andy, the boys,

like the vibes are high, but you can just feel there's a little something in the air. And Sal makes a comment about my pitch. Which I love. I love the trip. We're back and forth. He had a couple of bad takes of self.

We're having a good time. Later, new group of people makes another comment about the ball thing. Great fun. We're having a good time, right? It's all good. This is an amazing facility.

Look at how much you've built. You're the man. Ball, ball. Sal is an unbelievable dude. Does it a third time. He does it a third time. I go, hey, listen, we're sitting with their sauna and their little recovery areas.

He said something about the ball again. I go, go get a ball. Just point it at some random guy. I had no idea who, hey, can you get a ball in a glove? And I made Sal go out and have a catch with me. And the first ball I threw, he said, oh, okay, you know how to throw a baseball. And that is the problem, right?

because there's a lot of people who still think I dated Jeffrey Starr. And what it hurts more than that is there's going to be a lot of people in 20 years that think Taylor LeWan can't throw a baseball. I'm going to get my redemption. When I get my redemption, great. Not everybody's going to see it.

And that's all right. I have to come to terms with that, right? Taylor, you failed for a PED. Mike Brable set me down. He goes, listen, here's the deal. 50% are going to believe you. 50% aren't. That's the world I have to live in with this now.

I think a question of the internet is people are wondering, People are wondering if you are actually left-handed. Just based on your form and the way you kind of throw, at times it does look awkward when you throw something. Yeah, at times it does. And I got a little stiff shoulder. I got a tight little shoulder.

I dislocated this elbow in 2012. So there's some mechanical things going on with the left side of my body. That's not great. That being said, I can throw a ball. Yes, I am left-handed. There are also people on the internet wondering if this was a bit and you were faking it. No. Unfortunately, Derek Henry

texting me and Will. He was pressing hard. He wouldn't let it go. He's like, no, man. That's not real. I know this is fake. Because Derek and I have played catch before.

Derek and I have spent a lot of years together. In a lot of years, there's been a ball around. What do you do with your boy? Sometimes with the ball around, you just pick it up, toss it what happened to conversation. That has happened with me and Derek countless times. And Derek would not let it go that that was a bit. He wanted to believe in me so bad

that he could not come to terms with the fact that I fucked up throwing a baseball. Good friend. Great friend. Yeah. How do people explain to their kids what they witnessed on Thursday? I think this is better for people to explain to their kids. I think it's better for guys who don't play sports anymore, live the glory days in high school,

to sit there and show their kids. This is a professional athlete. I can throw a ball better than for anybody who's looking out there who has a young boy, has a young daughter that's in the baseball. This is a big opportunity for you to get some street credit. I suggest you take them out. Go have a catch today. The problem is explain this to my kids.

That is going to be the problem. So I'm a follow-up question. And I'll get to that follow-up question when I'm done answering this one. Tuesday, I'm outside of my kids playing catch. Tell, hey, get your elbow up a little bit. No, no, don't undertone it. But you put you up, though it's daddy regular. I want to go inside.

You can go inside when you hit me in the chest five times. and you catch it five times. Once we do that, we can go inside. I'm having that conversation. God forbid somebody shows that to my kids. Okay, respect's gone. Anytime we want to go out and play ball, they'll just go,

all right, dad. Yeah, do you want some pointers yourself? Like, that's where I'm going to deal with Winreville Luan and Willow Rose Luan. Those poor kids have no idea how much their father has let down their family. All right? Let's not forget about the Four Nations tournament.

When America and Canada are going at it, Those you were watching for the first time maybe here to see Zach Top. My thing, Taylor, why is Canada matter? My wife's from Canada. They do a softball league every single year. Pat, Gallagher, he watches. He's a sweet man, been farming his whole life, picking peaches.

What am I going to say to him when I see him in July? Huh? Hey, sorry. You've been asked me to be a part of your baseball team for four separate years. I'm sure that invites gone. All right? How do I walk around the town of Colona? and not get laughed at, giggled at,

tarred and feathered. Having cabbage thrown at me. Walked into UFC and Newark. Some guy hit me with, oh, wait, you go, oh yeah, buddy, you have to be those news. He goes, how about that pitch, though? You're fucking right. Donald Trump shakes my hand and then looks at Taylor

and then walks past him. Walk past. It's so disappointed. I go, oh, Mr. President, remember the podcast? He goes, remember that throw? And kept going. DJT. He said that?

Said it. Looked at me. Stoffed. He goes, you call yourself an American. Thought you were a big, strong man. Looks like you're a little boy. Looks like you're a little boy. Can't throw a ball, are you?

Yeah. And he went like this. And there's figuratively my chest right here. You're not good enough. And he walked away. Yeah. That's what my life is now, boys. That's what my life is now.

Okay, so while you guys lay your head and your pillows at nights, remember, at least you're not me. Okay. Okay, because I'm in hell. And there's only one thing I can do. Pick up a ball and start throwing. All right? Internet wants to be mean?

Good. I'll pick up the ball and I'll start throwing. All right? My daughters. Let me know. One new dad. Pick up the ball and start throwing. That's what this is.

Go ahead, Will. So if I can remember, when you're in these teaching moments with your daughters, or anybody out there having a teaching moment with their kids versus having a moment of being like, I can throw a ball better than him. What angle should they take? Hey, he can't throw a ball

and he's just got to keep working and keep practicing and sometimes that's just going to happen? Or do they have the approach of, hey, no, he actually can throw a ball. The moment was just way too big and here's how we're going to work on our mentality to kind of hone in all the pressure. Like out of those two options.

I don't know if I fully... So you're talking about if somebody else is in my situation? So if somebody's talking about my situation. It's essentially you can't throw a baseball or the moment was way too big and you got to work on it. You're either working on the skill of throwing or you're working on the mental of being like,

hey, your body knows what to do. Let's get your mind out of the way of it. And you're talking to me. Like you're like, oh, this is how I would approach coaching Taylor? No, I'm asking like, how can people use it as a teaching tool for their kids? Like, how would you talk to your daughters about it? Like, is it, hey, daddy can't throw a baseball

or no daddy shriveled under their life? I would, I would, if my kids were in this situation, and I was talking to my kids, I would say, listen, this is what happens when you don't prepare. This is what happens when you think you're good enough without putting in the work.

You put in the work, you get better results. All right? Preparation is the key. All right? Losers do a little bit of work and expect to win. While winners do all the work

they possibly can and still think they're going to lose. Let's be fucking winners. That's what I would tell my kids. Daddy was a loser on that. Daddy was a fucking loser. by the way called my wife after

the next day we're talking about it I don't realize the kids are in the car and I said fucking oh you know what I hear I hear what and go dad

fucking's a bad word can't say fucking I yeah you're right sweetie just when you think you can't get me lower right just when you think you hit ground zero turns out there's a little more dirt that's when you got to get off the phone

and flip that tailing like hey you've got to let me know if I'm on speaker phone in the car can I be 100% honest I knew they're in the car I forgot they were in the car and I still did it I start telling a story CTE brain kicks up the all of a sudden all the nasty

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We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name,

Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.

And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is. Getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is. Getting a new one put up in its place.

As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a politics of remembering the Civil War. To get to school, I had to go down Robert Lee Boulevard. Get to the grocery store. I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway. If you're an historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job. I'm Akila Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky State House that's actually worth the wall space. We are more than our bodies.

We contain essence. We contain spirit. How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching. You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Weekend overall was great. Great weekend.

It was one for the books. I know we say that a lot, but it was truly... Taylor and I are going home after our flight yesterday. And it's like you go and you go to the Cardone baseball game, which was A-plus. A-plus. The first-form facility, Sal and Andy Fricela, being around that entire culture and environment, A-plus. going to Anheiser Bush, having our live show, who it was like 3,000 people there were there

to listen to us talk to Dana White and Andy Fricela to launch Form Energy. That was an A-plus. The tours getting to drink the beer out of their, the massive tanks, the freshest beer that you will ever taste in your life. A-plus. Get on a plane with Dana to fly to Newark

that night on Friday night. That was an A-plus. The night getting our hotel. No, that was an F. That was an absolute debacle. That was a, that's an expulsion from school. But going to the USC, going to USC 316, also an A plus. A plus.

It was an incredible weekend. It was, it really, and will say in the beginning, we've said this a lot lately. Like every trip we've got, like, man, one for the books, top five. This, the other, like, the experiences we get to have doing the show are just getting better and better every single year, every single month, every single trip. It's just awesome. And even in situations like the hotel situation, which we'll dive into. You get done with that and you're like, let me zoom out a second. Let me look at this whole weekend as a whole.

That still doesn't even fuck it. That's like a little flush wound. That's not doing nothing to us because that was a brutal situation. However, all the things were able to get done. Like going to Anizerbush, that's been a business in America for 165 years, getting able to sit on those hollowed grounds, which is like the Hogwarts of fucking beer, bro. I thought a drunk...

It did have that vibe. Like, on that campus. I really thought like there was going to be some DUIs given out on broomsticks. That's how, like, that's how much Hogwarts-esque it was. And we get there and we do this live show and we have the powerhouse of Dana White.

We have Andy Fricela who's sitting there, who's a powerhouse in himself. And then this entire backing of all these massive fans and this facility. And we get to sit here and have a conversation and they're into it. Yeah.

To get after this energy, drink that I have no doubt is not only a great quality but is going to kick down the door of this world. Oh, form energy is going to crush. It was raining too. It was raining and they're standing on the rain. Embracing the suck. Yeah. And we're, dude, just even after like,

we're sitting after the live show and it's Brendan, the CEO of Anizer Bush, it's a Faselas, it's Dana, me and Will, and the boys. And the conversations that are taking place, Will is asking great questions like, hey, what was the headache? We need you guys doing this. Because from the moment, the inception

of, hey, we should do an energy drink to an energy drink being launched was 207 days. So a lot of different things had to happen and in a quick pace for all that to get done. And that shit is fucking badass, man. Get to see the horses. I'm a real mid-tier like energy drink consumer

and those first form energy drinks taste incredible. They're so good. We need to get a couple of palates. I know. It's hard to pick. Grape and orange have been my two favorite. right now. When you get a Buss and Barry.

Yeah, we were pitching them. Pitching them about a Bust and Barry. Time off or LTO, as they said. LTO, an LTO RTD. Yep. That's, but dude, it was awesome. It really was. And then just being able to like do the taste test,

it's Dana's crew, it's our crew. We're sitting there drinking out of these giant barrels of beer that are just like as perfect as you can possibly be, it's, you feel like, Frank the Taint, dude, as soon as it hits your lips, you're like, God, this is fucking. Because it's what.

What? It's like this will be the only time you have it where it's unpasteurized. Is that right? Yeah, unpasteurized. Before it heats up and then they put in bottles and cans and everything else. And then you think about the process too. It's like you bottle it, whatever, it's been pasteurized. And then it goes in a truck. That truck goes to a place. It gets hot. Then it goes back into a cold. Then it finally gets to the spot it's going to. You take it out. You bring it home. So there's all bunch of steps that have to go into before you drink it. Buddy, we're going to the source and having these things. Then we do this taste test upstairs. They have this book that is like every person who's, who's been in this room since like 1986, because this is a new book, has signed that we've been there. And we take up half a damn page. Dana's throwing out hundreds and we're putting hundreds down.

He's signing it. We're signing it. We're putting that dollar from Jack, whatever, also from us. He takes another hundred out from bustling with the boys. We put supplied by Dana. And it's just like a good time. Everyone's just like just feeling it.

Rush back to the hotel. Go get on this insane plane. Have amazing conversation. Just a, A feast. Some people were on that point. Who was a real loser winner though in that situation? Yeah, honestly.

To give context, Will Taylor and Garrett went on Dana's PJ. There was not enough room. I willingly stayed back because I'm a team player. But grudgingly. Willingly stayed back. You did. You did.

And in the moment, you're like, oh, man, it'd be sweet to be on the PJ. Garrett sent me photo. He's like, hey, I'm not trying to be a dick right now,

but I have to show you this photo. It's a full plate of stakes. and all the fixings. And so in my head, I'm like, I mean, that sucks. I've got to have some cool experiences. So I'm not mad. But then Garrett calls me at like 2 a.m. Or actually, I call him.

And he's like, this night turned into absolute hell. He's like, we should have never left St. Louis. The hotel bookings, I guess. Something happened. The reservations get lost. The boys are up for two hours trying to find any hotel in Jersey to stay at. So I think we both, you know, we had our fun. It took some miles along the way.

It's kind of like our first one because you go from Ryan this high and then you're flying this jet and we get out of a what's a little place called yeah american signature yeah and uh we walk out and day and his team they got all these black cars lined up and we're kind of just standing with our bags and we got this busted little minivan that pulls up for our for our uber we hop in and we go to this ran down hampton in it's got barracks it's got a cop sitting outside for security all all day all night around and we walk in like hey we're here to uh check in Taylor's like last name, Luan. It could be under Luan, Hargis Compton.

And he's like, can you show me your confirmation number? Taylor or Garrett pull out their phone and give him the confirmation number. He's like, it seems like your card got declined or didn't go through. Like, I don't have a reservation on here. Therefore, we don't have rooms for you guys. There's like, can we get three rooms for the night? He's like, oh, we're all sold out. And this is at like 2.2.30 in the morning.

Yeah. You're a liar. 2.30 in the morning. And it was dark and ominous in this lobby. you had a couple different animals, a dude that looked like, what did I say, Patty the Batty on meth.

Yeah, yeah. And then another cat who had like sores on the back of his legs. Yeah. Get a towel and some toiletry bags and the guy like brings it out to him. Yeah. And he just moves to the side

and then he continues to walk around the lobby. We're in a weird spot and we sit down and I'm like, so the work begins. And we start looking for different hotels and at this point in time, it's 2, 2.30 in the morning. So you're looking to book hotels

and, you know, we're from the digital age. You're trying to book it online, but there's nothing that you can book because Friday is now blacked out. You can't, uh, uh, you can't book a Friday reservation. You have to book on Saturday since it's technically Saturday. So every check-in is like 3 p.m. So we're having to call all these hotels where you call, you got to wait for the operator to tell you list all the options. You press four if you want to talk to the front desk. We could probably call about 20 to 30 different hotels everywhere in Newark was booked. So the point to where I'm getting pissed off because I'm thinking they're just lying like they're just not wanting to do their job or find a room because i'm like

there's no way that all of these hotels are booked eventually and i'll let taylor jump into you know this weirdo that ended up talking his ear off and it it was it was getting pretty weirdly heated and i know internally for myself for a moment because it's like hey we need him calling hotels like we have nowhere to fucking go right right like we need more guys on this yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm thinking of my head you know taylor will tell you about the conversation but i'm thinking in my head I need to hear Taylor you got to just be a hey it's nice me or whatever Taylor ends up doing that and this dude I'll let him break that down for you so they will all kind of set the stage a little bit where there was like barracks

and then there's like a police there's like a police car that has its lights out just saying this you know we're on a good spots right off the highway we walk in like the lobby area is lit ah that noise you heard was will compton getting off the bus we're dealing with a back issue again let's see him boys so different day new back Hypothetically, if you're talking about battles and wars, Will won the battle of the pitch, but did he win the war? Because that back, he had good rotation, but I think it might have ended him. So we get to this hotel and the lobby area is lit, kind of. It's a little like, it's like flickery.

But in the back where they usually have the continental breakfast, like the little boost and everything like that, it's dark. There's like no lights on in there. So it's a very like dark and ominous kind of area. Like the setting of a scene of a, yeah, dirty, dude. It's gross. and as we're sitting there like wills over in the darker area to the right Garrett goes off to the left and I'm kind of sitting in the middle little sitting area in the lit area just like on my phone trying to call places trying to do everything

I call place hey do you have three rooms for tonight they say no I actually start with saying four because I'm trying to make sure you're dialed in too but it's quickly it's like I just got to get three maybe even two like that's how bad this setup is and after my third or fourth call out of the shadows comes this guy. And it's very weird to talk about, but like it was one of those moments in your life where you're like,

this guy might actually do something to me. Where I'm actually thinking in my head like, okay, if he does this, then I do that. Like you're literally playing out a scene in your head of how to protect yourself. Guy comes out and he doesn't say anything to me

except for so Red Rock. I'm like, yeah, he was like, oh yeah, he's like, how does that work? And I was like, oh, bro, like I met Dana.

And then I met the people. there at red rock and they're very great to me but i'm very like being complimented about the place he goes how does somebody like me get into red rock i'm like dude like you just call and yeah you walk in it's not like it's like a who's who only place like you just see what i do online you're not seeing everything else and he's like i like talking me for a little bit i'm like all right man hey great to meet you you i you know i'm like hey good to meet you blah blah i hope you hope you get a red rock hope you get some wins and he's like yeah man appreciate that then he starts going to cave creek eras Arizona where I'm from.

Then he starts talking about cave feet, but not being like, I know you're from Cave Creek. I just, you know, brings up the name, the town, Cave Creek and starts talking about that.

And then goes back into Red Rock, all these things where I'm like so fucking uncomfortable. And the guy's got a darkness in his eyes. Like where literally, it's like this cat is evil. Either that or he's just strung out of his mind. He's got a near beer in his hand. He's like just kind of like walking around,

not saying a whole lot, but he looks like he's eager to speak. and I think after the second or third time, I was like, hey man, it's great to meet you. The third time I was like, buddy, I was really good to meet you, but like I got to call these places to find a place. Yeah. He goes, can I get your number?

I say, yeah, absolutely. He hands me his phone. It's like a, it's not the phone I have. It's not an iPhone. So I'm like, hey, I don't have this phone. Like, how does it work? He goes, oh, I don't know. I just got it.

I just think, okay, so I'm now looking in his phone to find the place to put a contact in. only to put in 10 digits that are not even not one of the digits or any of the digits. You can't be like maybe one of these are none of them or any of the numbers in my phone. None of them, not fucking one. And I give it to him. And the minute I do, I walk over to Will because no joke, I'm a little afraid. I'm a little nervous.

Will is fuming. I don't know how much Will is fuming, but I'm more of like frustrated because I'm like, we got to find a spot. And it's starting to hit me like, we might not. I find a fucking place. Because I almost started to look in the Airbnb. And if I can just message an owner that unlock something digitally, be like, hey, here's what our.

But what owner is up at 230 that you want to do? Exactly. Every, all this is going to my head to where I'm like, all right, it's about to be three in the morning. Like, do we just fucking book a flight and get out of here? We started going places in the city. Right. We were getting out there.

Yeah. We're looking at 30, 45 minute drives. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Just to find a place to lay up. And knowing that it's already three o'clock, it's just going through your head and you're just starting to. you're like man hopefully the because there's so many there's so many hotels around the area

and they're all just oh no sorry we're sold out all right yeah and then I'm feeling for you I'm starting to get because at first I'm like you know as I'm calling these and I'm hearing your guys this conversation a little like I heard him said Red Rock or whatever and I'm just thinking like Taylor come on man like we got to have all three of us call you know calling these places because it just we got to cast a wide web because everybody's saying we're sold out right now to where it was like, I'm getting internally mad about this fucking guy talking to you. Because I hear you say, hey, it was good meeting you man.

He's like, hey, so, yeah, so Red Rock, I'm sure you told the story. Yeah. And it just continues to dive in and I'm just, it's just all like, it's three in the morning. We've been up since like 7.38 in the morning. The night before we were up late. Yeah, the night before we were up late.

So it's just not a good thing. So, but once the conversation ends. And it's Friday night, so I'm starting to feel my back. So when I got up, I'm thinking like, I was charging my phone. for a little bit just to get enough juice. So then when it was charged a little bit, I'm thinking I have to get up and kind of like walk around and move.

But when you got up and so like when I finished that conversation, I'm legitimately looking for security and safety. I'm thinking let me make sure I'm safe first because this guy, dude, I'm telling you so fucking, it was so weird. He's up at just three in the morning hanging out. Even when we left, he's sitting there talking to the front desk guy holding his little beer. Yeah.

So I go over to sit by a wheel and start calling places and then that's when Will's like charging the phone. He's got to get up and walk around. He walks away. I'm like a kid like I'm scared. Oh, I'm like, like, yo,

he's gonna come back to me. Like this motherfucker can come back. And I'm also knowing, I knew. Did you get it? Yeah, exactly. I knew I gave him the wrong number. So I'm thinking to myself,

he's going to come back with the wrong thing. And I'm like, oh, was that my fault? And it's like, how many times do I do? Do you're just lying to me? Terry's like, hey, let's go stay outside. Let's go outside.

Let's go outside. Let's go outside. Because thank God for the holiday in express. For real, bro. About 15 minutes away. Thank God. dialed it in do you have three rooms for us tonight yeah we do like right now yeah you guys come over here we got rooms i was like bro you have no clue how much you just saved yeah saved

we'll be over there like 15 minutes end up getting a room putting our head down we can have like what 10 or whatever go to buffalo wild wings i like i kept falling asleep probably to like 11 or noon yeah it was one of those deals man but we but yeah got some bdubs beatups sad there just talk and it was funny too because we're basically having the conversations that we were having and St. Louis and stuff like that. We're like laughing and joking. And Will's getting a little vulgar. He's got a couple, he's just being louder than everybody else. Guys, we got to get back. I got to take a violent shit. Yeah. I look over. I see a father and a mother sitting with their daughter who's probably like 12 years old. And I'm just thinking myself, I remember being a kid and then some guy being loud and talking vulgar.

where my dad kind of be like, hey, excuse me, sir, could you just I mean, look at this. And I look over and I'm like, oh, we're the fucking guys that are doing this. Will's talking about, Will's like walking around. It's like kind of, I have to get a violent shit when I get back. Some guy in a baseball game gets bean by ball. Will goes, oh shit, you guys got to see this, man.

We're fucking talking about that. Dude in the LSU game, a lefty zips it like 90 miles an hour and smokes a buddy in the kneecap. It's this kid in the ground. While that, also there's a soccer game. some guys rolling around like him with his ankle. I'm on my knees, boys.

Oh shit! That might be bad, but it's not as bad as my pitch. They need to get up and walk it off. So, yeah, we end up sitting there. We go back to hotel. We have like six hours. And so I start walking around this area

because I'm bored. There's only so much I can do in this room. How many times can you go to a goon before it's like, well, yeah, let's go to life. I'm losing fluids. I go to like the Walmart. There's like a Walmart. Let me just go on this Walmart here.

Brother, talk about America being a melting pot. All of them were in there. Every single, every single human being. And not only that, I've never seen so many people in wheelchairs in my entire life. This dude, one dude was missing the knee down. He had that stump out to the side. He's taking up half the fucking lane.

People are like moving around. Everyone's in a rush about something. This dude just slapping people with his knee nub. I was in there for about five minutes. I had to get out of there, man. But yeah, went for a little walk. Went to Wawa's ass. Garbage.

Garbage. Literally. If I, now, if I can play Mitch aside, like if there's zero expectation about Wawa's, walking in, like,

yeah, it's, I mean, it's a solid gas station. Yeah. If there's zero expectation, and you're like, wow,

you walk in, like, this is a really nice, clean gas station. Yeah, it's like, Casey's. It's like,

it's like, yeah, because we're like, let's go get some food and somebody sent like, I said, I said, I was like,

oh, I saw it on the thing, I was like, oh, dope. Mitch Carsley is always talking about how the Northeast Wawa's is essentially their Buckees. Oh shit,

this is going to be a cool little event for us. You're just putting words in my mouth right now. That's not Mitch. Have you not? I have not said, I'm pretty sure on back of the bus last week. You said to somebody, somebody says about Wawaas,

you go, oh yeah, that's Buggies for the Northeast or like, oh yeah, Waus, I know about Waus. I didn't like compare it and say that Buckees at Wawa on the same level.

You were speaking highly about Waus, which is just a gas station. I was speaking. highly about Wawa, yes, correct. But I never said it was anything like Buckees because Buckees is incomparable. But you got, you FaceTime me Friday? This is Saturday.

Yeah, FaceTime me and I'm like, you know, this place sucks, dude. But in my head, I think I'm walking into Buggies. I think there's going to be a Wawa sculpture of whatever a Wawa is. No. Because we were also hungry. We were looking for food.

And you go, you go, get a Cazadea that hit me back. Yeah. Hang up the phone. Well, someone here got a Casadilla. First off, I'm, you know, I'm getting myself a little pump, a little pregame UFC pump.

The boys are going down to Walas. And, geez, like, oh, I'm going to go try a cassidia. He walks in. I can smell him from here with the cassidia. I'm like, that shit smells terrible. Walwas. Walwas, good gas station, not even close to Buckees.

Not saying anything close to Buckees. Clean gas station. Nothing impressive about the food compared to any other gas station. onward you're it felt uh well kept it seemed very safe you know what i mean like it's a clean like safe yeah yeah so nice to Mitch right now seem very safe to the point that where they might be using uh simply safe what do you guys want to keep safe your family your kids your new car in the grouse maybe a gas station or a holiday inexpress traditional security systems only take action

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What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to us. people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts.

We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band

before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.

But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is, getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is, getting a new one put up in its place.

As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a politics of remembering the Civil War. To get to school, I had to go down Robert Lee Boulevard. Get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway. If you're an historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job. I'm Akila Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky State House that's actually worth the wall space. we are more than our bodies. We contain essence.

We contain spirit. How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching. You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Good job, man. What else do we have?

What else do we have, boys? Dad Combine coming this week. Dad Combine shoots on Wednesday. That'll be outstanding. We've added. Since this weekend, we've added another event to the dad combine. But the beautiful thing is all, it feels like everybody's dad's pretty much coming. Most dads, 90% of dads are coming, which is an uptick.

We have an uptick and percentage from last year. Yeah. And it's just good, wholesome fun, get the old man around, hang out, swap some war stories. Yeah. Hopefully Dave doesn't try to cheat in a competition that there's no winner. Yeah. It's fun that we've been able to turn content into like us hanging out with our dads. Yeah.

The week of Father's Day. Yeah. So it's like we're having a moment with them where they're traveling in from out of town because we're all away from, you know, our families and everybody else. But just to have a nice hang with her old with our dads, man. Speaking of dads, Bill made an appearance this weekend. Yeah. He looks so good. Yeah.

He has lost so much weight. He's just the man. He was wearing that American flag polo too. Just like, just like taking it all in watching you guys give your speeches and like just like a proud dad moment. Your dad rips. Bill rips. Yeah. Shut up Bill.

Defending MVP. Defending MVP. Let's see if he can. Yeah. NVD. I don't know, Bill. Dude, you're just seeing Bill is awesome, man.

His transformation in the last year. Unreal. Crazy. Still putting down a couple of those, Micklob zeros. Yeah, love that. Just a little taste.

Yeah, just wants to taste. The butt in A's and Micklebe zeros. We were sitting there drinking the beer out of the tap. And I looked at well, you know, man, because at this point Bill left, I was like, I kind of wish Bill was back on the wagon for just just this moment. Yeah, because he's been sober for like a year now.

But you're up there tasting the sweet nectar, the greatest beer of all time. Just what was it, unpasteurized, cold. We're standing in 35 degree, a 35 degree room area with all these massive tanks. They bottled 21,000 bottles an hour of Bud Light. I thought they said per minute. Shit, they could. That'd be even more impressive. I'm pretty sure it was per minute.

That'd be even crazy. I think it was That's like 60 times more. 21,000 cans per minute and it was like 16,000 bottles a minute. But we can obviously fact check that. But I'm pretty sure it was a lot. Yeah, yeah, he said in the blog. Watch the vlog.

Watch the vlog. Watch the vlog. I'll need help with this. But apparently schools can now legally pay players in college sports. Effective July 1st, 2025. schools can directly compensate athletes per school. They will get $20.5 million per school rising to $33 million over the next decade. That includes retroactive payments for the 2016 to 2024 period.

That's huge for those guys. I wish I was in that period because I read that. I get a little jealous, but it's all good. College football teams that get played with will get more NIL money. That's on college football CFB 26. Teams that get played with a lot will get more money toward their end. NIL. Yeah, this opens a new era that breaks from traditional NCAA amateurism,

ushering in a new professionalized college sports model. So my first question, insure them, or if anybody's dove into this. I definitely want to dive into this. Is the schools that can now pay players, say the $20.5 million. Is that essentially like a cap that schools will have now? So what about the outside money with NIL and all the brand deals going on? You know what I mean? You still have all the outside NIL money, but for direct compensation, all schools can legally pay up to whatever that number was, 25.9, or 0.5.

20.5. Every single school can legally pay that. Now, they have to, Title IX is stepping in. and their argument is how is this going to get fairly spread out through all student athletes. So it's not just all going to college football. So, okay, so this is for, yeah, that's on me because I think about just football. All sports. So it's $20.5 million toward all sports.

Okay. So that's good for colleges, but it's still, NIL is still going to be like a supreme. It's still going to reign supreme. like there's no cap on what these kids can still like make yes and is it like the can the NCAA essentially tell and i'll just use nebraska as an example like Nebraska you're putting 18 of your 20 million into football like what's going on here you you got to spread out the love blah blah blah i mean essentially these schools can do whatever they want with the money they could give it all to football they don't have to give a cent i mean if you're looking at it from a business standpoint

way that football is the biggest driver at the university, you're going to put the majority of the dollars in football. And if Title IX or somebody steps in, like, that's just another parameter that they're going to have to eventually come up with, come up with. If it's like, you can, you know, 40% goes to football, 20% to basketball, you know, 5% to volleyball to where it's like there's certain stipulations. You know what I mean? Because if not, it's like you're going to feed the, you're going to feed the best ones the most money because you're trying to stay on top because that's where all of your brain awareness comes from with recruiting. I don't know this question was already asked, but does every D1 school get $20.5 million?

Yes. So Ken State gets $20.5 million. And it spread across all sports and athletics. Well, they don't get it, but they can give it. Like, that's their cap. Their salary cap that they can give throughout one year is $20.5 million. Because my understanding of the NIL is the school has to essentially be removed from the NIL situation, where you have this third party that's kind of facilitating all of the different sponsorships

and everything for name image likeness and football or sports can't be a part of it the schools can't be a part of it but they kind of know what's going on this now allows them to like hey this is our bucket 20.5 million across all sports correct I mean I love the idea of a cap I love the idea of if college football is truly going this way then let's start to match it in the you know as much as like the NFL as possible where you have a certain amount of money per year you can go into you can't go over if you do there's a fine or something happens with that and then allow players to get their sponsorships like you see george kittle he's rocking with chubbies he's rocking on bud light all these different things but if it's 20.5 million dollars i almost just think of it's like hey

great for the other sports because football is you going to get theirs yeah i'm sure the guys that are like lower on the totem pole in the locker room they're going to get like everyone's going to have more of a base salary than these guys are getting paid a lot because they know a lot of money's coming from nil and you just like you're just like you're just like you're hey, gymnastics, track and fields, water polo, all water games. Bowling. Bowling, field hockey. Like these guys that are kind of like, hey, yeah, we're playing college sports,

but we're probably not getting a whole lot. This is a good opportunity for them. Great for schools, but the biggest thing that's got to happen is you're going to have to, you got to find a way to lock these kids and athletes into contracts. Yeah. To where it's not portal season all year long and they can't like just sit there and dip in and out every other year unless they're, unless they signed a one-year deal with the school.

You know what I'm saying? Right. Kind of going back to what you were saying earlier of, like, keeping it in one, like, sport. Montana State this past year won the, like, D1AA national championship. And then there's this company that was created, and you can essentially donate money to, like, on their website to certain players to try and keep them around

to, like, increase their NIL fund. that way like those kids are like more inclined to stay rather than go to a bigger school and get paid. So that's kind of like another like I guess you could say loophole that like I, gee, like we can all donate 10 bucks to a player and that money will go directly towards that player so that like for their NIL to stay at Montana State. Look I mean we're in it. It's all the money the floodgates are busted wide open. It's it's legitimately for me.

It's like when's the rule going to come out to where kids and athletes can be locked into like multi-year deals. Yeah, there's going to be a documentary that comes out in the next 10 years about the period that we're living in right now. Yeah. About how crazy it was. Because, yeah, the whole thing about contracts, like that, I think that is the biggest thing. Like, these players can't just come and make a bag for a year.

Like, hey, we're going to pay you X, Y, Z. If you were saying a four-year deal, like Bryce Underwood, it signs 10-year, four years, 10 years, 10 years. Like, next year, essentially, he could go, I'm going to go somewhere else and make, what is it? You said 10 years? Sorry, four years, 10 million. He could essentially go to. another school that's going to pay them $1 million more.

And it's like, wow. Like if I go and I sign with the Titans, I'm under contract with the Titans and the negotiations start, I could say I'm upset, I could be publicly about whatever, and then have the conversation take place because it's, it's the Wild Westboro. Like there's so much money. All this is telling me, based on the little things I know about this already is $20.5 million is just being added to everything else that's going on. Correct.

Like again, Mitch is talking about loopholes, whatever, all, how creative everybody's getting to get athletes. It's like, all right, accepted. That's great. Now let's figure out how these kids are getting locked into where they're there for more than just one year. And that I love to where they can't leave. I love the idea of a cap in the sense that everybody, all these major schools are now on the same playing field. So now we can kind of get back to, well, I grew up a fan of this team.

I'm loyal to this team. And you can kind of get more of a camarader like, hey, this is our team. Not like, hey, it's springtime. This guy's not getting enough snaps during the spring practice. So I'm going to get the hell out of here. or I didn't play like they said I was going to play, so I'm going to get the hell out of here. Like have one fixed area for free agency or the portal.

And then it's a contract where you're like, you're here unless these things happen. Like you have different things in your contract or whatever. But I think once you add a cap and out everything, it allows teams to be like you're more back into the college football culture. Like, yeah, everyone's getting paid. That's great. But you chose to come here when, you know,

the money was the same everywhere else or it was the same in many different areas. You know? And if it wasn't, you took more there, well, then they have to sacrifice something on the back end for a couple other players that they would have wanted. But right now it's just, hey, who's got the biggest bank account? Yeah. That's how I feel about that.

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Like somebody who's been on. Jack and Garrett put me on Zach Top. And for six months, you guys have been saying, get this guy in the bus. Yeah, remember when Jack came in, he's like, we need to get this guy before he blows up. He's currently blowing up.

Yeah. We had a podcast recording set with him a while back, but that was the day where he won the new male artist of the year. So we had to push that recording to, you know, what you're going to listen to now. He comes in later today. So he's going to be awesome. Boys are fired up.

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ascension of an absolute lifetime. It's as if you watched the movie with the Monstars and he walked up to George Strait, Alan Jackson, and had them hold the basketball for a second, stole their powers away and said, watch what the fuck I do with this. Let's give a round of applause to Zach Top. Thank you, guys. Great introduction. Great introduction. That was magical. I need to like get a recording of that and start. I'm going to have them play that before my shows and stuff. We can get that. We know the best thing about this. This is being recorded.

That's perfect. It was already recorded. It is already. It is your way. It is, dude, your voice is insane and I do have to give a shout out to Jack and Garrett so a couple of our boys like nine ten months ago I was in the football season are like dude this Zach Top Cat yeah you gotta get the Zach Top guy your boy Tyler's over here yeah I guess working the phones he's on the dial up internet trying to get our AOL accounts trying to figure that whole thing out hey get Zach on get Zach on and I like I'm a guy that's like everyone's on a show and I don't have you heard of severance how amazing is severance I'm like you know what I'm going to wait three years into all the fuss is over yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so as like the season end

We're like, hey, talking about Zach Top. I go pop on the Spotify. And I listen to your number one song, I Never Lie. And buddy, it's essentially Oceanfront Property by George Strait. It is, it's like, this is incredible. Well, thanks, man. It's really good. I haven't, nobody's made that comparison before, and that's exactly right.

It's just the whole thing is a sarcastic lie. And it's my favorite. No one's brought that. No one said that before? No, I've never heard that comparison. I haven't even thought of it. But yeah, it's exactly. It's the same thing.

Our boys who do a do which research were saying that your parents aren't musically inclined at all. No. They, um, the music stuff. I mean, we all grew up in church and stuff,

sang in church and so my mom and dad sang in church. But, um, yeah, they never, my dad can play a mean, Mary had a little lamb on the piano and the banjo. Um,

okay, so they got a little something. Yeah. Not really, but yeah, they have great musical taste. I'll say that. They got me started on the right stuff.

Um, but, uh, No, my oldest sister, Lakin, was the first one. And she's several years older than me and the rest of us kids. The rest of us three are all a year and a half apart. But she was the first one. She loved piano, was classically trained pianists, really good at that.

I remember going around, we would go to her, she would go to competitions and stuff. And we ran around the Northwest following her around when I was real little. And so she started teaching, I think mom and dad forced her to start teaching. teaching us little kids piano too and that was probably miserable for her and then uh yeah but it was i think they got me a guitar when i was three i think i just begged i i love george straight that was the um i wanted to amary little by morning was my favorite song um that was what i wanted to learn how to play i just wanted to hold a guitar and wear a cowboy hat and look like george straight and so there's uh there's goofy pictures of me doing that at three and anyways and then uh yeah five years old i i i took my first

lesson, I guess. And we, yeah, me and Maddie, who's my younger, older sister, she started playing fiddle. And then shortly after that, Joram, my little brother, and then Lakin, the piano player sister, was she started playing bass and he started playing manorland. So we, I don't know, just stumbled in. It never was the idea, but stumbled into making a little family band and played our first show when I was seven. And yeah, anyways, but yeah, didn't come from mom and dad. They encouraged it. Probably better informing. I guess, yeah. My dad did not encourage.

My dad did not encourage us to get into the livestock business. My little brother is now. But that's what I always say that. Everybody else kind of grew up. Oh, there it is. Yeah, nice. They all grew up and got real jobs. And I'm still just out here.

And you said your sister was going around the Pacific Northwest doing piano competitions. Yeah, yeah. Is it like a drum line thing where one person goes and the next person goes and then someone starts hitting on the people's keys? I have very. I pulled up a score. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I don't, like, I have very just vague, a few memories of that. I was really little. I probably, I guess I was probably five or six years old or something when she was doing that. But yeah, we just, we'd go sit and, you know, it's usually in some church or something. We sit there in pews and everybody would go up there and play their piece. And I think it was competitions. It may have just been the recitals.

That's, I don't remember that part. See, this is probably a result. But if there was a winner, I guarantee you it was her. Really? She was that good, huh? She is not much in, like, the sporting world, but one of the most competitive people, I think. Like, card games, board games, anything like that. And just like anything she does, she kind of has a need to be the best at it, for sure.

She'd fit in. She's fit in with us. Yeah, she'd be all right. Yeah. She would definitely be able to do that. So you start this band at seven. Yeah. What's the band's name?

Top string. Top string. Yes. My mom came up with that. She was pretty proud of that. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it was a goofy.

Like I said, we never, like, we didn't have a plan to be a band. We were all just like, I don't know, kind of wanted to learn an instrument. And mom and dad were like, okay, we'll put you in lessons. And then we are family orthodontist who was like also, they're like an extra set of grandparents for us kind of. They, he was like in a rotary club in town. and stuff and there was a Patsy Cline musical. Oh, there's a good one right there. Patsy Cline musical coming through playing at the local high school.

And he was like, he called my dad and said, John, aren't your kids playing music or something? You think they'd want to come down here and play a show? And anyway, I guess so the story goes. My dad said, well, Randy, I can't answer that for him. You're going to have to talk to them. And so he handed me the phone. And I was like, yeah, Randy, we'd love to come play your show. When is it?

with him. Yeah, exactly. He was like, well, it's a couple months away. And I guess I went, well, that's good. By then we'll know some songs. We'd love to play your show. So anyway, yeah, we did that. And that was, I learned what an autograph was that night. Some nice old church lady come up and asked me for my autograph. And I went to my mom. It was like, Mom, what's an autograph? And so, anyway, yeah, that was the start of it all. At that age, did you start spending a lot of time on the back of your notebook practicing your autograph or in your notebook? That didn't come till like I feel like I was like 15 or something yeah when I started yeah and it went through a few iterations and now it doesn't look like anything I feel like a lot of people it just turns into some kind of

scribble yeah high school because it's got to be fast like you're like you try and perfect something yeah exactly if I'm graded something if I'm in the MLB or I'm a country singer can do anything yeah I remember when when I was training for the combine I signed a deal with Panini And they're like, hey, we'll give you X amount of dollars. Panini? Panini. The sandwich? No, it's a card.

It's a card company. Okay. So you like sign these stickers and they put them on like your rookie card or whatever. Okay, sure. And they're like you signed 4,000 of these. We'll give you like 10,000 dollars. Sure. And I'm thinking to myself, bro, 10,000 is fucking insane.

Yeah. Like that's amazing. So I started doing Taylor, all in cursive, Loan. And by like the 20th one, I was like, this is. Nope. We got to switch something up here. T. T.C and a little swish.

Yeah. Moving on. And it hasn't changed since. then. Yeah. But it is always kind of cool to go through a man if I'm if I'm the man someday. Yeah. Oh yeah.

It's a signature going to look like you. Oh, there's some, yeah, there's some school notebooks that have a bunch of dudes in the back going to look like an autograph. You mentioned baseball. Is baseball the sport you grew up loving? Yeah. Well, I started that one first, you know, started in T-ball and all that. And I was a decent little baseball player.

I was a lefty, so played first base and then. Taylor is a he's a lefty. Yeah, no kidding. Yeah. No, see how good at my baseball? Yeah, dude. Hey, pull up the clip. Come on.

So this weekend. We were in St. Louis and the Cardinals. Yeah. We're doing something with Anizer Bush and first form. This is me. Oh, yeah. First pitch here. First pitch.

Now, we'll say, we'll pause it. First question. Have you seen this? No. Have you seen this? Perfect. Second, and this is a massive insurance policy. Played a lot of football.

Yeah. A little shoulder. I dislocated this elbow in 2012. This thumb here, that's a UCL. That's actually hasn't been fixed at all. Perfect. Okay. He's totally fine.

So you can tell us a little fucked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. healthy he's confident it's fun to have fun with your boys we're talking but we're kind of doing the whole dance right now we're gonna be friends or we're not oh yeah oh yeah walk away from this what's life really gonna be like that's right and I know this is gonna put me by me on the eight ball in a big way just go and play the clip look at that go to wind up it's a great wind up oh that was that thumb I saw that yeah you see it slip out a little bit dude I hate I love getting to like like I've just gained enough popularity that I like now like some sport

guys are starting to pay attention like our fans and stuff. Somehow I got invited to do, I shot a charity free throw for the Houston Rockets game back when we played the Houston Rodeo in March. And I play a good little bit of basketball too. That was like, that became my favorite sport. And I was always too small. I always tried to be a post player and just, you know, was too small. And way too white and can't jump high and cannot.

Yeah, here. A couple of these. Yeah. Oh, yeah, dude. Oh, it's so, it's so, I'm so slow now. Yeah, it's terrible. But anyways, I did this and I went out there and I wore a freaking button down shirt, which was already a bad idea.

And the first shot, I tried to shoot with my cowboy hat on. And it's like, oh, that doesn't work. I kind of take that off and set it down. Anyway, I airballed the free throw. It was horrible. In that setting or in the middle of everybody? What do you mean? Like that, uh,

No, my warmups, I went in. I hit like, oh yeah, here. Amina's got, yeah, there you go. She got videos. I made like seven in a row or something while I was warming up. And I was like, heck yeah, I'm good. And then, yeah, there you go. I'm feeling good.

Yeah, exactly. You got a little shoulder shipping on that one. Exactly. Yeah. I was like, hey, I'm locked in. And then walked out there when I did it. And it was like, you know, it's like a mid-season game. There wasn't hardly anybody there to see it anyway.

But there were a couple of fans. When I went down there, warm up, there was already some people in there. and they a couple fans saw me and so somebody knows that I uh I definitely airballed that free throw somebody was aware of the process middle kids or sick kids or something suffered that night I think I think if I made it they got like there was like $5,000 donated and if I missed they still got $3,000 so um air ball we're talking about a win-win situation how bad is that in the middle of an NBA game I would be terrified well so it wasn't the middle that was it was it was before the game started so it was it was

Like there was almost nobody in there. So I was saved a little shame, but it still was just like, dude, that was like my dad was always my coach in all the, you know, in baseball and in basketball growing up and stuff. And he would always just, dude, make your free throws. You're playing in the post. You're going to get fouled. Big man. There's nothing makes me more mad than a big man that can't make his free throws.

You're going to go to the line. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Can't say.

Exactly. Yeah. You're dead sitting in Washington watching Shaq, Mr. Frithel being like, yeah. Yeah. I could have fucking made it. They call it free for a reason. Yeah. All that stuff.

How are those professional ball players? Yeah. Not make their free throw. Right. The basic. Do you get paid $10 million a year? Nothing would make me more mad than like not making the playoffs and you're with your boys or you're at like a barbecue or something like in January. Yeah.

Everyone's watching playoff football. And someone like drops a ball. But it's like they're kind of reaching out for it. Yeah. And then some fat guy in the corner is like, how do you not catch that? Yeah, you're talking like that for You just drop that bag of chips, dude Yeah, exactly

I saw you trip three times walking to that chair What the fuck are you talking about, dude? He's got a point though I am that guy though He's got a point How do you drop it? Yeah, I'll be on the sideline watching the offense Go ahead and what fuck you know it gets up

Yeah I'm definitely that guy Sitting there Yeah, dude, I mean Cheeto crumbs on my damn shirt just With your dad You gotta make that play You're dad being your coach growing up.

Did you have the wulf a ball hanging down from a string in the garage? Work on keeping them hips closed. I don't think we ever did that. We definitely, I remember just, I was always, I would kind of side on the ball. He hated that. Yeah, your dad was pitching and stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Make the tea.

Come over the tar. It's up here. Over the tar. I'm down here. I'm not getting paid. Up here, I'm getting paid. Exactly. Don't do this hot dog and bullshit you see that there on the table.

I think you've been there before, okay? He saw like shimmy shake you did after the basketball. He's like, just, if I taught him nothing. Have I taught him, act like you've been, man. You play in front of a full stadium and you're like, thank you very much. Walk off. No excitement at all. That's the whole thing.

Exactly. It's like, that's what I'm good at. So that's like, I'm not nervous there. It's not like some, yeah, big showboat thing. But it's like, I don't do this. I'm bad at this. If I make a few in a row, hell, yeah, feel good. Yeah, this is my deal right now.

This is my fucking deal. Yeah. Dude, your dad, so you grew up on a ranch slash farm. Which one was it? No, so we lived on this. It was just a little hobby farm basically. I think there was, he might have had 30 acres there or something. I can't remember.

But yeah, we had a bunch of goats around. Always a handful of horses every now and then a few cattle. But yeah, you know, next to a bunch of people that were raising cattle and stuff. And then he had his, he's in the livestock business. He runs a sail barn back in Washington still does. my brother worked for him now um so we got to oh is that sunny side right there it is magical that's the hometown right there huh that's it yeah we lived that was like the we lived over on the i don't even know what side of town it was but we were kind of out uh out on the edge of it but anyway

yeah we had that harby farm where we lived um and then it was like 10 miles away from there something he had a ranch for a little while with his business partner um and that was where we got to you know go up and play cowboy a little bit and, you know, goof around. We go ride some fence, do it. You know, whenever there was a branding or a gather or something, we got to go out there and put us on a phone. Yeah, take our lame little nags from the farm and wander around

and make a mess for all the guys that actually knew what they were doing. And, yeah, it was grand time. Yeah. When did you start to think that you could possibly have a future in music? Um, that's a good question. When you start flirting with the idea and fantasizing about it? Yeah, I mean, you know, like, I always wanted to.

That was always kind of the goal. But I think, you know, my parents having no exposure to the music business. Like, I didn't have, being in Washington, I didn't really have anyone to guide me on, like, what I need to do to, like, get into the music business. So I was just playing and singing and I practiced like crazy. And that was kind of it. And then in college, I moved to Boulder, went to CU Boulder for a year. or I guess three semesters.

And then decided I hated it. And I was a year away from finishing a mechanical engineering degree and decided I was sick of it. Well, that was my story to my parents. I started dating a girl and never went to. A tale is oldest time. Yeah, I never went to my circuits class and failed that class. And then I was going to have to take, it was like one of those that only is offered in the spring or something and so I was going to take a whole extra year to go back and do that

circus class again and so I was like I think I'm done I'm going to go work construction and save money and move to Nashville um that was not what I told my parents when I told them I was quitting school though um what was you were you going to tell them you just hey I don't love that oh I told them I was just like no it's just music is where my heart's at this is really what I got to do um yeah it sounds much more inspirational than exactly exactly I'm not passionate about your life. Exactly, exactly. That's right.

But that, you know, that was always their advice to me. It was just like, you know, go get a good job and you can go play bluegrass festivals on the weekend, you know, with your buddies. And so that was kind of always what I thought I'd do. And then, yeah, started working construction, started posting some of these videos on Facebook was kind of the first thing that I did. That was the first one that blew up for me anyway. I'd posted a few and, you know, I'd get like 1,500 views or something. It wasn't nothing. But then had one, a guy named Daryl Singletary, who was one of my favorite singers.

He was late 90s, early 2000s guy, phenomenal singer, real old school sounding. And he passed away in February of 2018. And I put up a video, there it is, yeah. The old spilled whiskey was the song. I put that up. And anyway, that was the first. It blew up, it got like 330,000 views or something like that on Facebook. And so there I got a few calls and emails from people in Nashville,

mostly like sheister types kind of. It was like, if you can come up with $20,000, we'll cut you a record and make you a star. And I didn't know anything about the music business, but I was pretty sure that that was not how it worked. Yeah. So anyway, and then a guy named Carson Chamberlain, who is my producer to this day, sent me some email, what is funny the girl I was dating at the time

was the one that saw it because I kind of like You're a different girl than Boulder girl Yeah this is Boulder girl Oh same girl yes sir All right okay we still dating her yeah no sir okay no all right All right anymore Taylor yeah yeah yeah all right okay sorry Girl from Boulder but uh really fucked that up Oh Lord

I don't know what you did man but whoof All right go off teasing we're teasing we're teasing we're teasing we're having a good time We're having a good time what's Denise we're having a good time yeah um yeah then yeah he sent some email and like didn't hardly say anything in it he was

uh just like hey my name's cars and chamberlain been in the music business a while uh I'm not much for toot my own horn but you can probably look me up if you want to give me a give me a call sometime if you want to talk about working together um anyway and so my girlfriend texted me uh she was like

you remember this chamber guy and oh none of those are Carson Chamberlain. He has he is the most underground like no oh yeah there you go there's a couple pictures. Yeah that's old school Carson there. Yeah. That's 1935. Yeah. That's probably that's probably the 80s or something, maybe 90s.

Okay, so he's aged a bit since then. Yeah, oh yeah. There's a little more recent one. Yeah, that's just a few years ago. Um, anyways, you remember this Chamberlain guy? I said, no, not really. And she was like, all right, I'm sending you a Wikipedia link right now. You're going to want to call this guy back.

Anyway, pulled up the link, and he was Keith Whitley's steel player and band leader, tour manager, Alan Jackson for a few years, you know, big producer on Mark Wills, Billy Currington, Easton, Corby, a bunch of guys that I was, you know, a fan of already and stuff. And so anyway, I was like, oh, dang, well, this guy might actually be legit. And he, you know, he came about it a much different way. too. He wouldn't ask him for money to go in and cut songs. He was like, man, let's see if we can be buddies and then we'll, uh, you know, we'll see if we can work together after that. And, uh, so we spent, you know, it's been, uh, I started coming to town that fall of 2018. Um, he would fly me in,

let me stay at his house, set up co-writes for us. He was big time mentor and, you know, kind of a father figure for me out here, um, as well. Uh, but anyway, yeah, started working with him. We wrote songs for four years, I guess, before we ever put out that first record last year. And, yeah, he showed me the ropes on the music business, making records, you know, everything. So that was kind of my first foot in the door where it was like, oh, if this guy thinks I got something, maybe I can, you know, have a chance of making it in this business. So that's my long, rambling answer to, I think we got to what your question was about. Honestly, dude, long rambling answers is exactly what we look for that.

That's what podcast is about. If Will and I could just sit back and you talk the whole time, but it's way easier that way. So the family band had to break up. Yeah. Yeah, we all kind of... That's cool. Tell us about when he first got to Nashville.

Let's talk about when you were a child again. Bring this back to that. So you're eight. Yeah, yeah. No, we kept that going until 17, I guess. Yeah, or I was 17 anyway. Yeah, so about 10 years, we ran around and did that. And then, yeah, we were all, me and Maddie were moving off to college, and John was still younger staying back home.

And so it was just kind of like, you know, logistically wasn't going to happen anymore. And like I said before, they all grew up and got real jobs. Maddie's a veterinarian now. Lakin is a teacher. Well, heck, she's chair of the math department at Front Range Community College now. She's still in Boulder, actually, her family and stuff. And then, yeah, little brother's working for dad. When you first make the steps, you have the, you know, the very touching conversation with your parents, mechanics isn't in my life.

I need to move to Nashville, Tennessee. When you get to Nashville, how intimidating is that for you? Because when I get to Nashville, it's like, I'm a football player. I'm not really trying. I'm not in this massive world. Right. But you walk down Broadway and every single bar you listen to, like, everyone sounds good. Yeah.

Everyone's extremely talented. Like you officially taking yourself as like a big fish, small pond. Absolutely. And you've gone into the ocean. You're in the big leagues out of the years, bud. Like someone probably shoulders you said like you do coach your music, whatever, brother. You know? So how do you like, what is your product?

Like are you naturally a confident guy with this? Are you kind of like leaning on people like, hey, I see you do that. I do this, people we can help each other out and a cannibal buddy out there. Like what was your process when you first got to Nashville? Yeah, I was very. Brought the girl with you. Yes. Yeah.

For a minute. Yes. And then that ended a little while. We should, real quick, I'll put that to bed. But you should call her. And just be like, thank you. We, we, yes. Well, she does deserve a lot of things.

Because of her, you missed that, you failed that mechanics class. You probably just be a mechanic right now. You'd be the most talented mechanic of all time. If it wasn't for this girl and her beautiful eyelashes, flopping them at you over and over again, for you to fail that class. Yeah, there's a lot of things. I ended up being married to her for a little while.

That's all right. It's all good. Yeah. Call that an annulment, dude. You get that in there. You get your feet wet a little bit. We tossed that out the window. You want to see.

Quite that. Yeah. But no, it's a few years. So we were past the annulment. Split it 50.50. We're going away. That's all good, dude. That was, hey, you got out before the get was good. There's a question away from me like, so what actually happened? Yeah. Why couldn't we make it work? I'm going to see. Get on the phone. Call her up. Let's figure this out right now. Yeah, anyway. Yeah. So were you nervous coming out here for the first time?

Yeah. I think mostly, mostly, you know all the shit going on like these. You talked to a therapist? Oh, my goodness. We're having fun. Yes. So you're in Nashville. Yes. You're nervous.

Yeah. When I came out, it was mostly like I didn't do any, I didn't play around town at all, did not do the Broadway thing at all. It was just, I was still working construction. When I came here, I got my dad to go in with me. We bought a place north of town. And I gutted the whole thing and remodeled it. and then and it was still waiting on it to be sold

so but anyway it got the job done it was just you know I needed to have something to do and then I'd write a couple days a week with Carson and whoever else we were writing with oh yeah there's my nice that's what I did at work all the time nice I get it here

do you get one oh yeah oh yeah I spent way too long that hip swing is wild yeah I don't think you're supposed to do that but there is it's There you go. Oh, here, yeah.

Got to get it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. You're a bit of a show boat, huh? You're a bit of a show.

I'm an idiot. That's for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I see you on the internet being all feminine and shit. Yeah. What I'll tell you about them hips, moving them hips. You ain't Elvis Presley.

Amen. We're really turning my dad into something on this podcast. I love it, dude. Yeah. Looking back at it now, do you think like, oh, I was a little, like, even when you go to to Nashville to be a part of it, but then you kind of still stay underground. With everything, like you're just doing your own thing. Yeah, and that was a lot on account of Carson, my producer.

I kind of figured it would be I'm going to get to town. I'm going to play every night of the week. You know, I'm going to Nashville. I'm going to play and sing. That's what I'm there for. And he advised me that it was like, man, keep Nashville at arm's length kind of. And it's like a, if you can get it to where Nashville wants you more than you need Nashville, that's then you've got a little leverage and that's kind of like a better foot to be starting off of.

So anyway, that was, yeah, we just set, we stayed underground, wrote a pile of songs. I signed a publishing deal in 2021 with that was right when I, so I spent, uh, almost three years, uh, just flying in and out like for a week every month or something. And I'd play shows out on the road, but I was still living in Colorado. come in here frequently and write and do all that. But yeah, it didn't get moved here till spring of 21, I guess. Shortly after that,

got a publishing deal. So I was making a little check for that, which was helpful. And then, yeah, doing this, supposed to be remodeling a house. And I was just playing with my hammer and playing guitar. So anyways. And, yeah.

And, yeah. And then, yeah, management publishing kind of came along with major Bob music still with them Tyler is a representative of management company and Kyla over here so they come along to yeah make sure I don't say anything too stupid let you guys know which which comments of mine we need to cut I feel like you even said nothing wrong well it's really me

am I guessing that right I'm trying to look at your eyes I got badass I can't tell it seems like you built up a lot of trust with your mentor throw him kind of looking at that vision before you because I'm sure you had a bunch of questions to be like yeah I like oh aren't I going out yeah why am I still swinging a hammer I'm in Nashville like why am I waiting like if I'm good why wouldn't I want to get out in front of people as many as I can as fast as I can and kind of just trust the process with him yeah yeah and the way he put it he was just like man a lot of times people will like it used to be a thing back in the 90s and before that kind of that yeah you go play some bar downtown and that was when actual industry people would go

hang out you know it wasn't the tourist thing that it is now um and industry people would go down to roberts and have a beer after work and see who was ever you know whoever was in their playing at the time and if they were good it's like hey let's you know give this guy a deal you know record deal or whatever publishing or whatever um and uh and so it's just not that anymore it's It's a tourist thing. So what Carson told me was just like, man, a lot of times it seems like people go down there, get a gig on Broadway or, you know, however many gigs, and you kind of just get sucked into that, and it's hard to break out of it.

You, you know, you don't have any time to, if you want to make any money on Broadway, you got to play on the weekends. And so you don't have any time to be playing on the road. You're not building an audience as much as, you know, if you, now it's basically, you know, use TikTok and Instagram. Those are the best tools for independent, up-and-coming artists. So that's what I was doing. I was just singing cover songs, putting them online and building an audience

kind of with that and then just, yeah, stacking up songs, writing songs like crazy. And yeah, looking back on it now, there was a lot of wisdom in that. And I think it made a lot of sense. And I've tried to, you know, pass that along to other guys that I've come across that are, you know, it's like, ah, I've got to get to Nashville. It's like, you don't need to get to Nashville. It's, you know, you can be up here some, but like, yeah, keeping it underground. That was the other thing Carson said, like, keep a little bit of mystique about it.

If you can be a guy that's, you know, anybody can see any night of the week in town. There's like, oh, well, he plays over here on Wednesday nights, and then he plays that rider's round on Friday nights, and then he'll be over there on Saturday. Then it's almost kind of like some of the mystery and the shine. comes off of it and it's like the way it happened for me it felt like

people were starting to like be aware that I was around because of the social media thing but they couldn't come see me anywhere in Nashville I didn't do many writers rounds

hardly ever played shows in town and yeah anyway and it works different for everybody there's no obviously no one formula for you know how to make it big in country music or music

anyway. But yeah, I think there was a lot of wisdom. And yeah, like you said, just the process that Carson had in mind. And it, yeah, shit, I guess it's worked out okay so far. Yeah, man, that's cool. Yeah. Carson ever sit there and be like, you know, he's obviously been in the game for a very long time before the internet even existed? Did he ever break you down, like back in my day type conversations about how guys made it all the time? Those are my favorite conversation. Yeah, because it's crazy. It's like, yeah, if you want to do music, essentially what you're saying is like, you don't have to be in one central location anymore. You have the internet to be. boost everything.

But if you go back to the 90s, which is all the people that are kind of giving you your influence, like how did these cats get figured out how they get found? 100%. Yeah. Hitchhike to Nashville and go knock on doors with your guitar and ask you even playing a song. You know, that's literally what would happen a lot of times. Or, you know, like I was saying, go, you know, get a gig playing in a bar and then, you know, herb Woolsey comes in after work and has a beer and thinks you sing good.

Yeah. I was like, well, yeah, it's just, just get you a deal, boy. It's crazy how that all gets figured out. What's your thought with like, it's, country music to me is so interesting right now because it seems like it's on a massive come up. Yeah. And I don't know if it's the amount of access that people have,

but it's like the mainstream like bro country that was kind of taking place in like the late 2000s and the tens. That's kind of like a little side gig now with a little more EDM music. But then you have like your blue grasses with your tile child, Tyler Childers. You got like your rock with your jelly rolls and your earnest and Hardy. So there's like this obviously country genre with a bunch of subgenres. Yeah.

When you listen to country music, is it like, this is the only kind of country music alike? Are you like one of those guys? It's like, this is to me. This is country music. Yeah. Or is it like, hey, there's a place for everything. Which is a place for everything, Tyler, before you want that cut. Everyone is allowed to do the thing.

But like what's like, is there like a piece of you that's like this is the stuff that I mess with even if it's not your particular genre? Yeah. Not much, dude. I'm pretty predictable. There's not, there's not, yeah, I agree. It's like, I think it's cool that it is a wide, very wide genre right now. And, you know, there's room for a lot of different stuff. And it's cool to me too that's like, you know, a lot of the same people that will go to a Morgan Wallin show will go to my show.

And, you know, to them it's all country music and they love it all. So it's, I'm glad I have a spot here and glad for everybody else that's got a spot in the genre too. but yeah you know if it's something i'm gonna turn on in my truck or something it's old you know 90s and earlier usually earlier some old merle haggard or something yeah uh george jones and yeah it's i don't know it's that stuff never gets old to me and there's and two like those older guys made so many records put out so many songs back in the day uh you know they'd be putting out two a years sometimes and so there's always just like something that like oh my god how have i never stumbled on this song before um so there's always yeah something you know even though it's obviously decades old

still something new to discover and that always tickles me so yeah was it a hard transitioning from bluegrass to country no um that was country was always where my heart was and it was uh the teacher that we had uh marie parks she just happened to bluegrass was her thing so she just taught me and my siblings what she knew. And so we kind of, our whole family just dove into the whole bluegrass scene. We spent every summer running around doing bluegrass festivals, almost every weekend of the summer, we'd be doing that.

I missed out, I missed out on some all-star baseball teams and stuff like that to, I think my parents realized, even if I was okay as a 12-year-old, I probably wasn't going to make the MLB. so maybe stick with the guitar buddy so but anyways yes we did that for you know 10 years we were just doing those festivals and stuff and that was just what we knew that's what I had access to so I did that

but you know we were still playing you know country covers in our bluegrass shows and stuff that you know I said Amarillo by morning was the first song I ever asked to learn how to play when I was five and I think my teacher said well that's a nice idea maybe we'll start with Jesus loves me and we can work our way up to that.

But anyways, but, you know, so I was always playing country songs and stuff in our shows. And that was, you know, where my heart was for sure. But Bluegrass was, it was a cool thing too, because it tends to be a very, like, family-friendly genre. And, you know, there's not many honky tonks that I could go up and do a set at seven years old. But Bluegrass festivals, though, let you on stage for an open mic, you know, when you're a kid and stuff. So it was, I got a lot of practice in, like, an early. head start on being on stage, being behind a microphone, and, you know, entertaining people.

Outside of just working on playing and singing, you know, that aspect of putting on a show, got early practice on that, which I think was super beneficial for me too. But yeah, and then it was basically just when I met Carson, that was like, all right, here's my foot in the door, and I can do the country thing that I've always wanted to. That's awesome. Yeah. You've mentioned Alan Jackson, Burl Haggard, George Strait. like all these guys have had massive influence in you

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I got to meet him a little. I wouldn't say I really had a conversation with him, but he's been very nice to me and got to talk to him, just in passing a couple times, which is cool enough for me. It was, yeah, it was pretty awesome. And I got to, At his little golf tournament, the last night of it, they do a big show.

So his band sets up there. And they let a few, you know, of course, there's a handful of different artists there and stuff. So he'll let everybody get up and do a few songs. And he closes out the night and sings a little set. And this last year, I was getting off. And he was like, man, stay up here and play some with us. So I got to hold on to the guitar and play a little backup for George Strait, which is pretty dang cool. I've got a picture of me.

The piano player took it from side stage kind of. It's Jamie Johnson, George, and then me, and then Dean Dillon, who is, you know, the songwriter who wrote over half a straight big hits. Yeah, there it is. That's awesome. That's cool, man. Yeah, that was pretty dang cool. Was there ever like a starstruck moment with that, or were you pretty like, oh, yeah, dude. I'm an idiot when I get around.

There's, I told when I met Vince Gill, he was another. big influence on me and I met him out at the Opry I don't know I spent a couple years ago now I guess I told him I was like man there's not many people left alive that would make me starstruck and act like an idiot and you're one of them so I'm sorry in advance it's kind of the same thing with George with Allen and yeah it's like I don't know what to say to these guys you know it's kind of like I wish I could just be cool and just have a normal conversation because that's like I like that now that I've got a little popularity it's like when somebody can just talk with you him bullshit about something, that's fun.

It's like, I know there's like, I've got a lot of fans and stuff and obviously nothing like these guys. It's like, I don't want to just be another guy saying, oh my God, I grew up on your music, you're most amazing thing. How many times have they heard that. Exactly, exactly. But it's like, I don't know what else to say to them. It's tough too

because there's party that just wants to tell them like how much they meant to. You don't understand. You have had a true. I'm not standing here without you being in this world. Yeah. You truly influenced my life, my direction. everything yeah it's like fuck i bet fans and people say that all the time yeah exactly everybody says that yeah so we had uh will and i have had you know we've been around a lot of people

uh doing doing this job and stuff like that and it's been awesome and there's all i've always like gone back and forth of like when i meet somebody do you do the photo do you not do the photo like what's the dance that we're going to get into because you're basically evaluating are we going to be friends like is this going to be something that like when you see as a camera everybody dapp up hey good to see you yeah yeah and i had a situation we're at ufcc and we're sitting right next to johnny knoxville yeah and i'm like yo johnny fucking knoxville like i love jackass growing up this guy's a hero to me yeah and i'm sitting there i'm in i'm in my head like i'm gonna do something he seems like he doesn't want to be bothered and well was like hey i can just go up to him be like you

you guys should get a photo and i'm like no no don't don't don't do that please like hey i got my boy with me yeah yeah yeah yeah my young boy here he really wants something in my head i'm like yo this is johnny Yeah, it's sick. Taylor's kind of sitting there and I'm thinking, I know he sees him. Yeah. We got to make this happen. So we end up not doing anything. He left early.

Yeah. And then we were at my house, like on my birthday, a little banged up, just the two of us chilling. We have like this long conversation. Yeah, eat some cold stone ice cream. Hell yeah. And I'm like, I can't believe I just fucked that up. Like, am I going to be best friends of Johnny Knoxville?

Probably not. Like, he's going to give a shit who I am? Probably not. Yeah. But I could have got the photo. Yeah. And just been like, this is sick. Yeah.

This is awesome. I got to meet. shake your hand, that's everything. And I fucked it up. That's that night. That is actually that night right there. Yeah, but it's so hard to, yeah, figure out. Yeah.

Yeah. Is that the right move? Oh, yeah. This guy's just going to. This is going to. Will's face right there. Oh, yeah. That's literally awesome.

And I'm looking it down. I'm like, hey, I got to figure this out. I know. People are going up to Johnny and he's like doing that. And he sits with his wife or girl, whoever it is. And I'm just like being a bitch. Yeah. I'm being a bitch.

It's basically what I'm doing. And so now I don't. Yeah. I've officially changed my stance. Yeah, exactly. We're at UFC this weekend. Yeah, that's got like an intimidating aura. Yes.

But like Mike Tyson, we walk into this like Dana White, he has like this room that his guests come into. So we like go in there. And Mike Tyson's sitting there. And I'm like, I go, well,

I'm gonna just myself to Mike. You want to come with? He's like, yeah. So we walk over there, shake his hand. He stood up. Yeah. Tough watching him stand up.

I can't believe you just fought. Yeah. Yeah. But like he shook her hand. I was like, hey, I appreciate you, man. We'll see you later. And then dip.

Got the fuck out of there. Yeah. Like, is that so hard? Yeah. No. No, yeah. No, it's not. Exactly.

And so I've learned a lot in my day. Yeah. Learned a lot going up to people. Yeah, it's like, shit, I may never be in the same room again. Right. As well, just like, you know, even if you don't have the picture thing, just know that, hell, I shook Mike Tyson's hand. Right. Said hi to him.

That's all you got to do. That's pretty cool. Is there a person you haven't met yet that you're like, this is my white buffalo? That's a good. Hank Jr. Would be one. Hank Williams Jr. Have you met Willie?

No. Yeah, another great one. Yeah. It'd be an awesome one. Yeah. Huge. I mean, he's like 92 years old, right? Yeah.

And he's still playing music. Yeah, still out there. I saw something earlier today that he'd die on that bus probably. That's probably what he wants to happen. And also, that's a hell of a shout out for marijuana. Yeah. Yeah, buddy. Good job, marijuana.

You guys kept this man functioning for so long. But there was a thing that came out. He was in Arizona for something this past weekend. He had a seven-minute standing ovation. Yeah. And there's a photo of him like crying. Yeah. And it's like, but this dude's,

life is incredible. Insane, dude. Yeah, that's one. I did get some friends with his son, Lucas Nelson, who's also great, great artist, great singer. Anyway, he texted me one time. Last year, we were doing an old song, Gary P. Nunn wrote, last thing I needed, first thing this morning, one of my favorite Willie Nelson songs. We were covering that in our show, and Lucas texted me one day.

And he was like, man, I showed your cover to my dad. I just wanted to know he thought you did a really good job on it, and he liked it a lot. It's like, damn, that's cool. That's what you did the phone, really check this out. Yeah, how sick is that? Exactly, yeah. So hopefully I would love to get to meet him, obviously.

Yeah. That'd be, yeah, him and Hank Jr. That'd be about, yeah, I don't know, all the old guys. That's who I want to. That's what you want. Yeah. Stapleton was another big one. Chris Stapleton.

I hadn't met him until just at the ACMs back in, what was that March, I guess. yeah no it wasn't was that last month April yeah or May what month is it what year is it geez anyway yeah he was like I hadn't I'd seen him a couple times just in passing and kind of done the thing where it's like man am I really gonna be another guy because anyway but I went up to him he was super nice him and his wife Morgan but yeah that was that was a cool one I've been big big fan of him someone that has an amazing job of doing the shameless thing like hey I don't

care like I'm a big fan of you is jelly roll. I feel like, he was so great at like giving the gratitude and going to people, be like, yo, just so you know you're the fucking man. Yeah. And it's like jelly roll and you're like, you're jelly roll, right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. And that's, that's a cat that I feel like does it, does it the right way. I feel like a lot of those guys get to, uh, like those, you know, some of those top

guys in the genre or in probably just in music in general or just whatever, any kind of like level of fame at some point, there's some realization that it's like, Hey, yeah, we're all, yeah, I hang out with a bunch of famous people, but we're all just people, too. So it's just like, yeah, I'm going to go say hi. Right. What was I just going to say? Oh, Luke Combs was one that was just like, I saw him. I went to the CMAs for the first time last fall, and I'd seen him kind of across the room and wasn't going to go bother him.

Anyway, he ended up coming up to me and was just, yeah, cool as can be. I was just like, dude, I heard your stuff. Love it. You sound great. And it's like, damn. feeling too right yeah dude it's yeah it's so awesome and yeah i've been a fan of him for a long time um yeah so i don't know yeah it's it's a funny yeah at some point you just gotta we're all doing the same thing yeah yeah you're not gonna bother somebody just being like yeah think of how you felt when like luke

or somebody tells you that it's like they're probably feeling the same thing that you come up out of their way or tell us story about something that how you've kind of like exactly imprinted on them yeah and kind of influence them yeah out of all the people that you've you're named who would you want to you have an actual like conversation with give us if you guys are sitting down unbothered uninterrupted you're having a couple beers oh this is that if you could have dinner with anybody who would it be oh sure yeah yeah man I'm Alan or George would be uh pretty awesome um you have a question that you would ask that's a good question nice yeah nice nailed it.

I don't know. We figured out we're doing it right on this show. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It'd just be, you know, it'd be nice to have more than,

you know, three minutes to just. Or we hear this golf chair thing. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. To, yeah,

sit down and have enough time to sit and have dinner. It's like, I don't know, we both love this music so much. Obviously, we'd have some things in common and,

you know, could just, it just be fun to, you know, even not get into a bunch of, you know, deep questions about, man, how did you handle the fame or the success or whatever it is, which I would love to ask that kind of stuff too. And, you know, and both those guys too had, you know, great family life and stuff as far as, you know, anybody from the outside can see. And that's cool to, to me, see. Shout out, Denise. Yeah. Shout out Denise. Amen. And yeah. And so, you know, just, yeah, little things like that, just having navigated life and how do you be. so damn cool and still sell out stadiums when you're 70 years old um yeah then they bring a game of thrones and you're like you're like oh that's my final end they fucked up season eight right

yeah exactly damn you think shame gillis is funny too yeah yeah yeah yeah dude that is uh what is that about oh lewan said fucking in front of his kids yeah that was part of the intro oh nice um yeah dude when i threw that pitch out it's okay It's all right. I'm an open book. When I did that, I was telling my wife the story about the pitch. And she's in the car with the kids. And she's like, hey, I'm in the car, blah, blah.

I hear the kids talking. But then I get into telling the story. And I'm like, fucking, honey, I'm telling you. And I just hear my daughter go, dad, fucking is a bad word. I'm like, oh, no, I forgot you were here. CTE. How old is she? She's seven.

She turns eight in July. And she's a sweetheart, but she caught me saying that one. time to you. So my daughter, she's always on this, like, she loves to sneak around on the prowl, like hide and try to scale. I'm always like, I always like hide around corners and scare them. So they try to get me. And she was hiding in our room and something happened at her house. Like, and I was on some bullshit old dad stuff where I'm like, this fucking bullshit. Like, you know, one of those. Oh yeah. And that was the first time I heard her say fucking. Because she walks up, she goes, daddy, she was like hiding. And then comes out of the woodwork to go,

Daddy, what does fucking mean? And I'm like, oh. And then we're trying to like, like, like pivot to duck in and all these other things. And I have this video of her I'll show you after the show of her being like, yeah, dad's always like this fucking tattoo or this, this fucking girl over here. And you say it like just the same exact inflection I do? That's hilarious.

I ain't no running away from this one, man. That's amazing. Tough parent. Tough parenting, man. Have you ever brought the family band out at one of your shows? Oh, boom. If you have, um,

no, yeah, I have not before. I had mine. But I think that would rip. Yeah. My, what, Sherman? I'm being dead-ass serious.

Like, the fam that got together at a young age. You get so mad at a shirt. Sorry, he's laughing. It's what? Dead-ass serious. They should do that. They should do that. Like, if you're in a spot to where you get to this level,

you have the ability to do it, and you had this family band that you guys did through church and everything else, you went off, you're doing your thing, everybody's doing their thing, and it's like, you're at this point, and you're so grassroots. Are you laughing back there again? This is supposed to be kind of a comedy podcast, dude. Are we doing good if they're laughing?

It's hilarious. Hey, but a little bit on the back. But I'm saying, bro. I could be banged up talking about this right now. But to have the entire full circle moment to where you're at this level and the family comes back and everybody knows you because you're more grassroots. Like everybody's watched you grow and they know the story about you and the fam and the fam's playing at the concert.

Like that would bring a tear to my eye. That would be awesome. And just thinking about them like, well, whoever's opening for you. And you look in, and you're holding the guitar, you've done this a thousand times now. And you're like, I feel pretty good about this. You'd look at the rest of your family, shitting their pants. Like literally shaking, like, okay, there's 17,000 people. Mary had a little.

Your dad's like, I told you a baseball. You just had your arm up. Like, you get the whole family. Everyone's just going to do the whole family. You get paid up here. Yeah. You guys want to get paid. Got to do that.

Let me see what he's doing? Doug, that would be awesome. I did have one of the times. I played on the opera. My sister Maddie, the fiddle player there, she came up and played a couple of my songs with me, sang harmony and played fiddle on it and stuff. So that was pretty fun.

Yeah. I had her on the opera. How was she before that? What do you mean? Before like she went up and did that. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, she's, she got a little, she never loved the stage all that much.

Hell, she, if she wanted to do it, she's a better singer than I am. But, yeah, she was never that big into the, yeah, I guess the stage thing. I think she gets a little uptight. A little stage fright. It's all good. It's a defense mechanism.

Yeah, for sure. For sure. No doubt. She killed it. She's great. You've seen that Luke Combs, he does a fantasy football league every year. And the loser of the fantasy football league has to come up on stage and sing with him. Oh, that's a fun.

Oh, I've heard about that. Yeah. I just saw him. I don't know if he does it every year. It's just like a bunch of his old buddies and stuff. Yeah. And it's like all his boys from back with Georgia, wherever he's from. Yeah.

And he gets them on stage and they have to sing. What does he have to do if he loses? I don't know. Yeah, that's a good question. Quit the tour. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

That's a great question. Take all the money from one show and give it to that show and give it to all the boys. Yeah, to the win. Yeah, split it up between the boys. I jump in that. Every time. I'm jumping. Exactly.

That's awesome. Opry, dude. Playing the Grandal Opry. I had the opportunity to walk on that stage and introduce a couple of my friends. And it's intimidating. Who was it? Ernest and Jelly Roll. Oh, yeah.

So I went out there and did that. And I thought I'd been there before, but I had it. And it's like some guy showing me around about all the history that's taking place. Like you walk in, Dolly Parton's outfits there, which by the way, she gets me on the cheek one time. That'll be doing it. Yeah. And I go on stage there's me right there. Yeah.

I go on stage and it's like everyone's kind of like, I guess like this is a normal thing for the opera, but everyone's like, oh, very nice. Good song. All right. There's not a whole lot of like, everyone's just there to enjoy the music. Yeah. And it's such a hollowed ground. Like were you, was there a different level of nerves for that compared to something like maybe last night doing Nissan Stadium? Yeah, dude.

Yeah. The first time I did the opera, you know, it kept on getting more and more comfortable as I've done it a bunch of times. But the, yeah, the first time I was very, very uptight. I don't, like, I hardly remember the first time. It was just my mind was going a million miles an hour and like, you know, I think my heart was probably doing 300 beats a minute for about three hours after that. But yeah, there's definitely, you know, it's, that that is the, you know, the longest standing country music kind of. a iconic show like that it's everybody has come through there and you know stood in that circle and played that stage and the circle bro is so crazy yeah so on that stage they have like a circle

from the original right yeah because it used to be the rhyman exactly yeah used to be the rhyman they tore down or did whatever they kept that rhyme and got flooded so everybody yeah you go you do this i think tyler's right you're the guess why am i talking that's right it got flooded right okay yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah somewhere along with them built their own uh grand old Opry house out there, Aubrey Mills or whatever. But anyway, yes, took some of the stage wood

from the old rhyming stage and have it in there. So it's, yeah, you're literally, you know, standing there where Buck Owens and Patsy Klein and, you know, just all of music history

has come through there. And it's wild. Isn't that fucking nuts? Yeah, that's cool, man. The history and it's just wild. Yeah. I told, they walked me through it before I went up and played my songs.

They asked me if I wanted to go up there and stand up there and get a picture. And I was like, no, I'm not going to stand in there until I sing. And I had like this weird little superstitious kind of reverence for it kind of before I actually got up there and did my performance. I waited until then to walk in there.

Do you have any pre-concerted superstitions at all? Not really. Have a cocktail. Have a cigarette. All good. things yeah i the only one i have these uh you know darn tough socks uh free ad i guess i have no deal with darn tough socks no free shoutouts no free shoutouts send him some socks sorry i don't know yeah i don't know a whole lot about the sock game but go on dude uh they have these there's this

pair they're they're white socks it's just regular socks they're white and they got a nice little blue and red stripe around the top just like kind of a classic looking old sock and for some reason and I love those socks, and I've got to have a fresh pair of darn tough socks to wear, when it's like a big show, it's like I got to have a crisp white pair of those. And it's going to be a good show. If you don't get a partnership over that, that is crazy. There they are right there. They don't call with a seven-figure bag. It's tomorrow.

Every big show I have. There it is. Yeah. My feet don't right. My voice doesn't feel right unless I have a pair of darntail songs, red, white, and blue for America. Darnel, you not out. So I was winking that camera. We'll cut it all up for me.

No, no. Don't tell you do not have these rights. You do not have these rights to use that. Bustle with the voice is not, we do not give you the right to use that clip until you pay our boy in a finder's fee for Bustle with the boy. Because that's people helping people.

Rising Tide lifts all the votes. Amen. What's it like out on the road? Just a good blanket for you there, dude. What's it like? It's a blast, dude. I love it. Like, how many times would you say you yank it on the road?

My mom's going to see it. For football players There's that whole thing Like Wednesday after Wednesday I'm doing nothing The lady tries to come up to me It's like sweetheart I gotta keep this pent up

I'll see you Sunday night Do you use a different Dorn tail sock Yeah I've got a special This is my big show one This is my yanker This is the bigger show one

Oh my God Dude it's such a weird I don't know how it's a job A lot of times And it is It's a lot of work It's tiring and it'll wear you out But it does feel like

we're still, you know, back in the day we're running around in my pickup truck and a horse trailer or a van and all our gear piled in this 15 passenger van. And, but it's still, you know, now we're rolling around on a couple buses, but it's still kind of the same. We're just a bunch of idiots out here running around playing music. And my whole band is like, well, most of my band is people I've known for a long, long time. So we're like, it's not, I didn't get to Nashville and, you know, hire some dudes in black t-shirts to do my show. that I don't actually hang out with. So we've got a great,

it feels like a good family vibe on the road. Everybody gets a long. We all have, yeah, it's just, it's a party every night. It's, I don't know. I wonder if it'll ever, like, slow down. Because, you know, you see older artists now, or, you know, like Dirk's Bentley, we're out with him.

You know, he won't spend time with this. He's got kids, you know, they're getting to be teenagers and stuff. So he wants to spend time with his family. He flies into the show and flies back out, you know, so he can, spend time with his family it's not as much of the and he's still goose off and you know spends plenty time on the road with his boys too but i wonder i assume probably at some point you know i want to

have a family too and so at some point i'm sure we'll uh we'll slow down just a little bit and try to spend more time home right now it's literally you know i get war out and i think i want some time off and then three days into time off i'm just like uh it's time to get back out on the road yeah and you know just go the road dog mentality yeah drink to keats and i drink to keats and the lemonade and smoke sigs with the boys. What a time. I mean, it can't beat that. There's no better time.

You hit 30. I'm not as you know right now. It should hurts. I'm getting close. I'm on in a decade. I'm like, I'm cold tubbing now. Yeah, exactly.

Dude, that's how I'm sober. All those socks, fuck those socks. I don't wear those socks anymore. I'm in a cold tub only. Yeah. Water with electrolytes. Yeah. That's what everybody, yeah, there's always,

everybody first gets the little taste of it and gets out on the road and they party hard. and they party hard and then yeah, they hit like 35 and all of a sudden they're carrying around a damn gym trailer behind their bus. Right. Yeah, and yeah,

and they got a cold plunge out there and they go find a sauna and it's, I don't know. Part of me thinks I won't ever get there. But another part of me thinks that I have been 220 for a little while now and I think I could stand to lose a few. So maybe I need to do something different. I don't know.

You hold it well, dude. I wouldn't have guessed 220. Did you, uh, we're not doing it. this year, but we do a beer Olympics. Nice.

And you would be an amazing addition to when we do the final, the final beer Olympics. It's in my backyard. I love it. We drink all the beer. Yeah, it is. Oh, I can get down with that. It is a lot, bro.

And it is a lot of fun. Like, are you, you beer games guy at all? Or you just like to sit? Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely. What do you think you're best at? Um, can you slam a beer? Can you chug? Yeah, not like super fast.

I'm pretty, I'm a respect. Expectable speed chugger, I think, but I'm not going to blow anybody out of the water. I'm a pretty good beer pong player. Okay. Yeah. I don't know, but I mean, you guys are a bunch of athletes. I mean, I'm... You saw my pitch.

Yeah, I guess, yeah, yeah. Okay, I think I can... He can delete a beer, though. He can delete a beer, though. I can delete it. I believe it. Sure, I didn't see you were racing to pull that clip up. Yeah.

Yeah. How are you... How are you... Pop that real quick for the boy on? ...deard beers like that and you're still all slimmed down and trim, both of you guys. I'll tell you. I feel like you both.

Yeah. You both, you know crazy. I wake up every day at 5, 4 a.m. in the morning, all right? We do our journals. We get the cold tub.

We work out for three hours straight that we come into work. We don't sleep, brother. We just get after it. No, man, we just eat relatively okay and work out as much as Will's back

will let him and mind me will let me. Yeah, I'm in hell right now. Yeah. Really? Yeah. I let myself down a lot too physically. Okay.

So I appreciate the compliment, but I have a long road. I have a long road. Sure. A lot of progress. You should have seen the neck on this guy when he was playing. Like it was all 19 piece. Yeah.

Yeah. Now we're not like a shriveled 17. Yeah. Oh, is that your circumference? Yeah. I was trying to 19. What the hell does that mean? It's the girth.

So this is the first event of beer Olympics. So what we do is it's a boot. So it's 36 ounces of beer. Yep. And we chug it and you do your time and your partner's time. Okay. And then we'll go seating after that. First top three scores get points.

And then we go right in the beer. ball or beer pong. Yep. After that. What are the other events? What else do we? We'll do do flip cup beer ball you. I'm so bad at flip cup. Really? Yeah. I'm terrible. You can easily just go chick game. Don't eat it. Yeah. Like a lot of people. Yeah, exactly. Everyone's always like, oh, flip cup. While you do flip cup, that's for, that's for the ladies to have fun. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, yeah, yeah, you kind of fuck with flip cup. Yeah. I kind of have a good time. It's electric when it like, yeah, you get a tight game and yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's going down the line. But yeah, I'm not very good at it at all. What is beer ball?

So I love it you asked. So you have on the table is the four corners. You put a beer on each corner. So Will and I be partners? You and Tyler will be partners? I would throw my ball at one of your cans. Once it hits the can, he's got to start drinking his beer. Snap it open, start drinking.

You have to retrieve the ball and put it back on the table. He can drink until that ball is back on the table. Once you race and touch you back on the table, I have to stop. First one to finish their two beers is the victor. That game right there is a lot of room for arguments. Yeah. A lot of room. I believe it.

that's like one of the later games. Yeah. Because you chugged at 36 ounces right there. Oh yeah. You're all different people. Yeah. From the moment that that ends. Absolutely.

Yeah. Tensions can get high. She's being blacked out at the end of night. Be like, Zach, go play. Yeah. Go play some songs. We got one. Yeah.

It gets a guitar throws. Do something. Yeah. It gets, it gets rowdy, man. I love it. It all started with like we were to OTAs. In college, we would do a case race.

Yeah. So like after the first scrimmage every year, we would all get together as a team you and me a case who could finish it the fastest and then we did beer Olympics my fifth or six year in the league and it was me and the whole bunch

all the offensive linemen just go to my house we would get crazy the next time we filmed it this could be a little something right here and so we've done it three times now I love it two times for real we're like really taking it serious

and then this year it was like there's too much going on is it yeah is it a bunch of bunch of athlete guys that you all know or is it mostly just buddies and comedians I want to say like those two guys those are office alignment from Michigan the two girls over there there at bar stool yeah and then you had we had Shane we had Bert Kres oh yeah oh Bert Tech too yeah yeah jelly roll he just comes yeah

gets everybody Dustin Lynch came last year yeah Dustin Lynch came who was hilarious Waka walka flaka yeah has there been any big surprise yet that you uh you didn't know they beard that hard I was more surprised at Wilcoffin does beer hard laying on my back just lifting my hand up I was very surprised at how bad

Shane and Bert were Really? Yeah yeah because they're like The boozers yeah Like they are the guys that come in They show up 20 minutes late Respect it do your thing We go on for the chug Shane actually He can chug a beer

Yeah he can put a beer down sure He fucking he's like me with the first pitch He just the moment was too big for him He starts like getting in his nose Bert can drink beer all day but can't do anything. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And Shane was playing the I'm too cool for this old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Half-ass in his flip cup. Like, oh, yeah. Not taking it serious. If you guys have me there, I will, I will be going hard. I will take it seriously. Good.

So if you could pick one partner. You could pick anybody in the world to be your partner. Who's it going to be? Oh, wow. That's a good question. Yeah, that you know. That would be solid. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dude, I don't know. My piano player, David, he's a pretty party-hardy kind of guy. He can put down some beers. Oh, yeah. He can, and he's good at, yeah, like some stupid little beer games like that and stuff too. Yeah, he could definitely. You know what I feel like we need there? Isn't it Luke Combs who can delete a beer?

Yes, he can. Absolutely, yeah. He did that on Rogue. Maybe, yeah, maybe Luke would be good partner. He was shotgunning. Yeah, yeah, he was shotgunning. I love to throw my hat in the ring against Luke when I come out of retirement. You need some competition.

You need some competition in the childhood world. Yeah. You're kind of undisputed champ on the chug, huh? Yeah, I've never lost. I've never lost. It was funny. Two years ago they did the Kelsey brothers. They found out we were doing the Olympics, so they held their own event in the same day.

Yeah. And there was a video of Jason Kelsey doing it. And so the boys showed that my boys back there. They put our videos back to back and I edged him out there. Nice. Yeah. And Shane, Shane's always been,

he's a good beer chugger, but yeah, no one's really come close. Yeah. It's been a, it's been a gift for a long time. I love it. For a very long time, man.

Hell yeah. I love it. You talk about your piano player, how like, these are all your boys. Yeah. How long have they been with you? Dave,

I've known him for, uh, 10, 10, 11 years or something. Okay, so we got some history with this fellas. Yeah,

yeah, yeah, absolutely. And then it's funny. So they, uh, him, his brother is the bass player,

and the bass player's wife is the acoustic guitar player. So it's a whole family affair. They all came up playing bluegrass stuff too. They had family bluegrass bands and stuff. And so that was kind of how we met originally. And then they decided to, you know, fall along and do the country thing with me too. And then my steel player and drummer are guys that I've met more recently.

They've been, you know, Nashville area pros for a long time. But they're, you know, they, it feels like I've known them forever. two it's uh yeah has there ever been a time where it's like bands in a tough spot big arguments in the bus or anything like that um some guys like i'm fucking out of here the two of the husband and wife they're in a big fight she gonna show up tonight i don't know yeah no not really uh i i think probably dave is the most problematic one he's the he's the best one everybody loves him and then he he's kind of just a child he like we're going out for like a six-day run and he brings two pairs of underwear and one sock.

And so then he's like back there in my closet. Like, hey man, you got a extra shirt I can wear for the show tonight. I don't have a shirt. So like he's, but it's all very lovable. Just like, Dave, you jackass, you know, why do you got to be this way? But, you know, you kind of wouldn't have it any other way. Yeah, good vibes only it sounds like. Yeah, it is.

There's no bad apples. I love it. Yeah, it's pretty awesome. You a fan of Colorado Buffalo? Not really. Anti-Dion guy. What is it? Anti-D-on?

No, no, no, not at all that. I'm a fan, yeah. My sister is, I love him. He's great. My oldest sister that's stealing Boulder, she hates him. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. She, I mean, her whole take on it is that he doesn't, he's just a good recruiter.

He's not a good coach. It's just, you know, it's Dion Sanders, so people are going to want to come play for him. I mean, he turned it around pretty good for that program where they were. Yeah, that's what I think. It's just like, hell, nobody gave a shit about CU football games until he showed up. I never went to one while I was there at school and stuff. He was playing, though. So are you familiar with Chador and Travis?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. How do you, what was, did you follow Chador in the draft process or anything like that? No, man, I get, after the football season is done, I'm just pretty, move on to college basketball very quickly and then it's golf for me um big golf guy we watch a lot of golf on the on the bus i don't know how you do it peaceful who are your guys who are your uh well um so i've become buddies with uh chandler phillips it's his second year on tour i guess he played a and m he's uh so i mean he's i guess an up-and-coming-ish yeah tour guy whatever he's he's crazy

he's really, really good. Chandler Phillips is his name. I actually got to, that was one of the cool sporting moments that I've gotten to do so far at the waste management. What a time, by the way. Oh, God, yeah.

Waysmanaged this all the time. Yeah. We got hired to do a little private gig there early in the week while the practice rounds are still going. Anyway, and so they gave us, oh yeah, there am down there. So they gave us some tickets to the,

to sit at the 16th. and hang out there all day before the show. And so I texted Chandler and was like, hey, dude, make sure you play the back nine today on your practice round. I'm going to be on the 16th. And he was like, shit, dude, I'll get you a pass. Just come walk the course with me. And I can do that. They'll let me do that.

And anyway, and then I was like, well, I don't have like golf clothes. Do I need to go get some, you know, proper attire or whatever? Like, no, dude, wear your jeans out there. So I am walking around in Air Force. and starch jeans and a button-down shirt like an idiot. But anyway, I got to walk with Gary Woodland, who is super nice. And then Lee Hodges, too, who I guess knew who I was and was a fan and stuff too. And he's not far from it.

He lives just down in Huntsville, Alabama. But yeah, that was one of the coolest experiences I've done, walking the whole course. Isn't it crazy being the world you're at and then having access in these other worlds like golf? Yes. Like is that not mind-blowing? It's so fun. Yeah, that's one of the, like, I don't think I ever really thought of that when I was trying to, like, make it in music.

But that's one of the most fun things to me now is how the, yeah, the entertainment world and the sports world combine very quickly. Yeah. It's badass. Like, I'm buddies with John Daly now. That's insane. How wild is John Daly? Yeah.

The guy is. He's so fun. Fit for a straight jacket, but he's an all-time cat. Yeah, all-time. Yeah. time. What's one thing you gained access to that you're like, this is the coolest moment? That's probably it.

Like John Daly facetiming me every few days. He just, he just will be in a bar drunk somewhere and my song comes on or something and he just calls me up and he's like, hey, he calls me son. He's like, hey, son, what are you doing? and I don't know we're just about to get on stage or whatever and he's like well just wanted to let you know

your dad loves you and I'll talk to you later I was just like that's what I needed to hear before this show yeah yeah oh dude it's it's the freaking best dude his story is so incredible I'm not a golf guy

but hearing about him yeah being like one of the just in case guys and then coming in and win it and that's how like the whole thing gets started insane insane man yeah yeah

that's a fun one yeah and now I guess there's uh Cal Rollerall Mariner's star Seattle Mariners I don't know who that is Yeah that's all good

Sorry Cal I know who you are He's like leading the league in homers right now or something Oh Cal Yeah yeah Yeah Anyway

I guess he uses one of my songs Bad Luck For his walk-up song now And so they invited me out To one of the games Oh we're gonna be playing up in Washington in August I guess it is And they invited me out two games

You know cool stuff like that I went to Mariners games When I was like five years old and, you know, so then getting down, I don't know, yeah, it's just cool to be kind of, yeah. You got a little bit on the inside of it. Is it the Seattle Territus with your, with your name on the back? It's like, yo, this is, yeah, this is awesome. Oh, yeah, I've got my wall of shame at the house.

You know, we go play different arenas and stuff and they'll make you jerseys. I got like, yeah, I don't know. Shoot, there's probably 10 or 12 so far. Jersey, I got them all hung up and they'll just say top 25 on them. And that was the year that we played them. But anyway, yeah. No, I'm not a Seattle team's guy. The Mariners, but I'm kind of a...

So I told you when we were talking before, Lakin, my oldest sister, went to school out of MIT, so we kind of became Boston sports fans somehow, probably just because Seattle sports teams sucked at the time. So it was more fun to root for the Red Sox and the Bruins and the Patriots and stuff. And the Celtics. But, yeah, so I like, I don't know, I was kind of a Boston sports.

guy for a long time but I'm still a Mariners fan for sure um and I'm just a titans guy now um Brady retired and I'm yeah so it's like I kind of discovered that I wasn't as much a Patriots fan as I was a Brady guy yeah um so anyway yeah I'm a big big Titans guy yeah so when that breakup between Belichick and Brady was going on your heart's torn into two oh yeah yeah let's just find out who does better yeah I'll go with them yeah yeah yeah smart that's that's business it's as bandwagon as it yeah so you jumped on the Tampa Bay train for a year or two yeah I did That's okay. Ain't nobody mad at that.

Ain't that's very normal. But now I'm a die hard Titans guy. Die hard. What do we think? Do you want me to play? Cam Ward. Okay. You know he knows his name.

Like Cam will be legit. I'm very excited about it. I hope he is. Yeah. Same. It's just, I always look at the, you've seen the video of Shador Sanders

and him working out together. Oh, no. And Shadour, he does rap. And he's like, we should make a song together. And Cam Ward's like, no, I do football. Like when you Google me,

it's going to say American football on Wikipedia. Yeah. Like he said, that's all I want to be known for. Like having that type of mentality. Yep. And hearing guys talk about Cam Ward right now, obviously we're all in underwear right now.

We're not. No pads are on. No one's getting hit. But the Titans deserve it. They deserve a quarterback they can sit with for the next 10 to 15 years. Yeah. And this is our fucking guy. Yeah.

That's what I hope. Yeah. And if he's good too, it'll be electric for everybody. Yeah. Right. This dude having a shit talking, having his celebrations. Yeah. I think it'll get everybody hype.

Yeah. Nashville deserves a team that crushes. Like you look at the predators, what was it, 16, 17, 18. Yeah, yeah. And they were on that diabolical run for a little bit. Like the city rallying around that is unbelievable. The short stint that we have with the Titans where it was like, you know, 18, 19, 19, 2021. Yeah.

It was like, people are fucking about it. Yeah. And it's like, it's just awesome because the city is the best part about the city and the worst part about the city from a sports standpoint is there's so much to do. Yes. So like, why am I going to go to a, you know, an eight, nine football team? Yeah. I can go see Zach Top play. Sure.

You know? It's a whole different ball game. Yeah, there's three shows a weekend at Bridgestone Arena. Right. Yeah, absolutely. So if Ward can be who we think he's going to be. Yeah, dude. It'll be massive.

I'm so excited for it. Yeah. So when you moved here, you're just like, hey, this is my team. Oh, Brady retired. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of that.

And it's just like, all right, I'm not going to be a bandwagon guy anymore. This is home now. So we're just going to, yeah. So this team goes 0 in 17. You're still planting a flag. Hell yeah. All right. Absolutely.

I need to get me. Yeah, yeah. I got a Tanna Hill jersey. I wanted Tana Hill to work. I mean, he did. He played well and stuff in that little run, but just wasn't quite the, it seemed like it was going to be the, like he spent that little time down in Miami and just didn't work there and then came up here and it was like, I don't get the Derek Kennedy thing working. This could happen. And so I got my Tana Hill jersey. I guess I'll have to give me a thing. I never had a Taylor Law in Jersey. I'm sorry. That's okay. That's all right. Sorry. They were available at one point Respect the seven So you could have done it But it's all good Yeah respect the seventh I got a couple of the closet

I'll send you one Perfect Yeah I'll send you one Don't you worry I'll have to get a Cam war jersey I know that's yeah That's what I'm thinking Yeah we'll see

Hopefully yeah hopefully like you said A long term guy Because yeah I don't know I hate it's funny Yeah I'm gonna sound like a real Old sports dad now Just like how much People move around

I feel like every year I don't pay too much attention and the off season to all the moves and stuff. And so every year the first week comes around and I'm like, who in the hell is on, you know, whatever team now? How did he end up? Yeah, exactly. Got to catch up with where everybody's going to do.

That's the problem with these boys, man. No loyalty. No loyalty. Exactly. You know, take a little bit more money, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, we got a college. We got Julio Jones now? Yeah. Exactly. That's got nice. Exactly. Should we hit our tear talk? Dude, we'll love to.

All right. So we all know you're a massive. a fan of the show, but just for the people that are watching for the first time, I'm going to explain tier talk. We are going to go, honorable mention if you got it, tier three, two, and one, one being obviously the best. The category is going to be love songs. Okay.

You can take a minute, think about the songs you're going to have, and then we can go into it. And if you're like, hey, I got four or five that I actually don't know where to put where, you can put a couple honorable mentions in there. Okay. I'm going to take quick P. Yeah, do it. And then we'll start. Hell yeah.

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or wherever you get your podcast. Shall we dive into the... Talking about trying to make it. Tired of this, nine to five. Yeah, exactly. If you close a cabin door, I'm sorry. Oh my God.

It is, that's such a funny, like, juxtaposition for country music specifically, because it is like the, the blue collar. Yeah, just, I'm out here working, trying to make it. Yeah, exactly. I'm wearing, I'm doing. Do I want steak tonight? Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

What's in catering tonight? Yeah, exactly. My third catered meal of the day. Do you feel like you'll run out of things to write about if you just keep on the trajectory you're at right now? You're like, your life's going to get more and more awesome. Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

You're not going to be doing laundry. Yeah, somebody do that. You clean your house. I'll leave the socks there. The cleaners will get it. Yeah. It kind of disgusts me how quickly it's getting that way. I don't do shit anymore.

It's, yeah, that's a good question. I feel like right now it's like I'm getting older. You're just killing. I feel like I'm getting older. And so like I keep on having a little more life experience. and have some more stuff to write about because of that. You know, everybody, I don't know, they start having kids or something, and they start writing, you know, kind of songs about having kids a little bit.

Luke Combs is big in that world right now. So I guess that's, but yeah, it's a weird thing to, at least before it was like, hell, I was working construction. It's like I can relate with the people that are listening to the musical. Right. He starts to get a little nervous about it. I'm running out of material than just his next. girlfriend's like, will you marry me?

She's like, honey, it's been like three weeks. You don't understand. I got this writer's one that's coming up. We got to do something here. Let's have a kid. Let's have a kid. Nothing wrong with getting married in three weeks. No, well, three weeks, not five.

Five for sure. Not five. Yeah, five. My wife and I, we got engaged in five weeks. No shit. Married in two months. What? It was a...

Thanks, boy. Yeah. We got an old, though. No, this is your wife now? Yep, still there. She's still alive. Still with us. Still with us.

Praise God. Praise God. She only falling down the stairs so many times. She just really, she can handle herself. No, we've been here for nine years, man. Yeah, so college? You mean college or something? No, we met here.

We met here. She was in Leepers Fork, Tennessee. And she became friends with my mom. They stole puppies. Oh, yeah. Taylor got drafted. Yeah. Yeah.

Taylor was like, all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We, but we met, dude, and I was like, it was a whole long story. I was dating somebody else. I ended up with her, her and I, like, run away to L.A. for six days in San Francisco, back down to Arizona. There's her. I'm the one on the left. Oh, yeah, yeah, cool.

She comes down to Arizona and white with a ring, and we come back to Nashville right before OTAs, and it's like April 18th, 2016, and we're like, yo, 420. Let's get married on 420. It'll be funny. So we just go and get married on 420. Oh, my God. And it was at this little church somewhere that's, you know, I could not get you there now, but it's like in the middle town. It's like Vanderbilt or Belmont or one of the two.

Sure. And, yeah, we've been here for nine years. We have two kids before. My wife's even like, we met. It was going so fast that even my wife was like, hey, I should sign a pre-up. I should do a pre-nup. And I'm like, okay. Like, I had like, my financial team was like, freaking out.

Sure. My friends were freaking out. She's like, everyone's going to think I'm after your money. Let's just get that locked in so no one can say shit. Yeah. And I'm like, you sure? Yeah. All right.

You know? Because like I know the coverage of- In a room with all your lawyers. Bro, it's so funny. That story. So I get my lawyers for like, and I walk into this, you know, the 18th floor of this building. It's all rich mahogany.

They're pouring scotch and meat at 11 a.m. Like everyone's got a three-piece suit on. We go to her lawyer's offices. Like they're still using filing cabinet. It's like all fucked up. They go, so who's that? Some lady, though, receptionist is a smoker or a senator. Show me with you in a minute, honey.

You know? That's amazing. We look back and laugh at that all the time. But it took a day, and it was so uncomfortable, bro. Yeah. The whole thing was, I was, the whole pre-up thing? Yeah, and I was like, I obviously had people tell me about it before. Yeah.

Because I told people 12 days in knowing her, I was like, I'm going to marry this girl. Everyone's like, holy fuck, dude, this guy. Settle down. He's off his rocker. Yeah, he's done. And when she brought it up, it was like a breath of fresh air, but it was also like, even doing the conversation was like so awkward. Yeah. Now it just sits in our safe, man.

Yeah. A little pre-nup. Yeah. Hang him. So anyway. Crazy. Onward. So tier talk

Tear talk Best love songs Yeah Spicy tear talk Presented by Roe Top Do we Top love songs

Are we talking Lovemaking Oh I got to I'm more prepared For love That's a very I did a little variety

But I don't have Lovemaking Mine are all Love making You're all Love making I know my word For yours

Oh also When we finish Our TIR talk We'll go around the room Okay And we'll All give One word

To describe How we feel About Your Tier Talk Okay. So mine for you is going to be horny. Yeah. Do you want me to go first?

Go first, horny. My honorable mention, the hamster stopped running. You acted like you had this already. You're ready. Because I'm ready. Yeah. Let's do this.

All right, my tier three. My tier three is going to be, um. Holy. go. This is actually a first My tier three is going to be

Give me that by Webby. Do you know that song? No. I don't either. Can we play that for 10 seconds? Yeah, yeah. Girl, give me that pussy.

Okay, Will's got it. Yeah, give us a little bit of it, Will. Girl, give me that. You know you want it, girl don't act like you don't want it, girl. You want it just as bad as I do. Hell yeah. That's beautiful.

Tier two. And that's love, baby. And that's love. Love. Dear two, Lollipop by Little Wayne. I want to lit, lit, lit,

like a lollipop. Isn't that what that is? Yeah, a hell of a hundred percent. That's what it is. Damn, now I need to rethink my list. My tier one is going to be by a poet

named Pity Pablo Freakalique. That fucking song. Every tune. Sing a little bit for me. No. Because I'll sing the full I'll sing the entire song.

Do we all have the same word? Yeah. Yeah. We all do? Do you want it with your feet in? Horny. Yeah. On three.

One, two, three. Horny. Yeah. Good job. Horny will. Start off rough. Right? You're taking off the net plan,

you're like, we're going to die in the first five minutes. Something for the graphic, though, we should put the new single because I think that would be hilarious. The tan lines. Yeah, there you go. Good times and tan lines.

That's a lot of mention. That's a lot of making song for sure, dude. Tier three, Webby. Lowellie. Pity Pablo. Very natural plug there. I try to give everybody a variety. Nice.

In my tier talk. Nice. My first honorable mention, I have two honorable mentions. Nice. My first time I mention is if it means a lot to you, that's by a band called a day to remember. It's about two people. They're in love. They end up breaking up in the end, but it's still a love song.

Fun fact, you were married at one point. I was engaged to a different woman at one point. Really? Yes. We used to get high in my four tourists and high. school and listened to this song all time and before every game I listen to this song. Wow. I would think about her and tear up and think, this bitch has no idea.

I'm still doing my thing out here, huh? Hope she's watching this noon game. That's what I would think. So that is a, that one's near and dear to my heart. Based on the guests we have, my next humble mention goes to a goat. Toby Keith, you shouldn't kiss me like this. Oh, great. Shouldn't kiss me like this.

Let you mean it like that. Yeah, baby. Because I'll just, anyway. That's an awesome. Beautiful. Beautiful song. Yeah. My tier three, all the sad boys out there,

goes up to this one hit wonder, plain white teas. Hey there, Delilah. Nice. What's it like in New York City? Because I'm a thousand miles away in tonight. Girl, you look so pretty. Bro, that is so funny because this, uh, I'm in the middle of my,

I'm in my tier. Oh, the black guys. The black dudes were breaking this down and it was so funny. These black guys talking about white guy, talking about white boys in there. Yeah. He goes, you want to talk about real, real shit. This mom, my boy, been going through shit.

Yeah. And she's a thousand miles away. New York City. California? Yeah. My tier two is going to go to Barry White, practice what you preach. That is a horny song. That's a love making song right there.

Hell yeah. And my tier one, which should be- I would not have guessed that from the title. I don't know that song either. Practice what you preach. Yeah. We can play it for a little bit after. I don't have this boy, so I can't do it.

Okay. My tier one, which should be a God tier, I want to take you back to April 12th, 1914. A ship cruised from Europe to USA. They said the ship was unsinkable. Yeah. On that boat was a young man who won tickets on this beautiful ship in a poker game. Jack Dawson. He met this young rich lady who was setting sail to a free land with an abusive fiancé

only to meet each other on the tip of that ship and they were flying. And a song played And that song is My Heart Will Go On by Celine Dion Yeah That is my tear talk Magical, dude Now we'll go around the road

Oh, give me a Yeah Uh, Mitch, you want to give us one word? I'm gonna go sad boy Hyphenated Okay Uh Hyphenated

Diversely Elite Say wholesome Thank you Yeah Respectable Okay Okay tasteful.

William? Beautiful. Thank you. Yeah, but very heartfelt to me. Put a lot of thought into that. That's a full sentence. Very prepared.

Heartfelt was my word. Okay. Not one sentence, one word, dumbass. Okay, now I got to go. I didn't prepare near as much,

but I have my, and I changed it a second ago. Honorable mention will be, I went kind of weird offbeat country love songs because those are the only songs I know is country songs Honorable mention is

Let's Fall to Pieces Together by George Strait Let's fall to pieces together Right here In each other's arms It's like they both just broke up with somebody But it's like What is the Alone is much better together

I think that's one of the coolest lines Anyway, yeah, good little... That's a good lie. Yeah. Yeah. So... He's George Street, you said? Yeah.

He's got himself in future. Man, I'm telling you, it's going to be something. You think so? You're going to be something. Yeah, there's honorable mention. Tier 3 is job description by Alan Jackson, which is that song just means a lot to me, because it's... It's the whole thing is a story about...

Well, it's Alan on the road. He wrote it about his wife. It's, I sleep 80 miles an hour. Wine another diesel down the interstate. Dreaming about my little girls. Easy chair that sits beside the fireplace. And we shut her down in another town. Shower up and do just what we came to do.

Sing for the people. Count the money and the miles back home to you. So I think that's a... That's one of my favorite... He has a good element to the tear talk. He does. I'm sorry. He does.

I just... I knew I was picking songs that no one was going to know. So just kidding. Some people will know that George Strait song. But that's a pretty deep cut Allen song there. I love that. That was Tier 3. Tier 2 is Fantasy by, I can't even remember the dude's name.

It's a big deal. It's like Kendrick Lamar or something like that. Pull that up. Pull up fantasy. I want to bring some range. I want to leave you from your head to your toes. I want to move from the bed. Down to the flow.

And I want to. I got, ah, you make it so good, I don't want to leave, but I got a, no, no, no, no, what your fantasy to see. Yeah, exactly. That's the one. I can't wait until this is broken down on an urban podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk about some cultural appropriations.

What the hell were you talking about on this damn show? Yeah, exactly. Up here, boy, up here's where you get paid. I don't want that. I want you to listen to Frissa music, dude. Yeah, that's ludicrous. There you go. Sorry, Ludicris.

Also was in the Fast and the Furious. movies, which we all know I'm not a fan of. Okay. I'm with you, brother. But anyway. Sorry, Luda. Fantasy by Luticus. That was Tier 2. Tier 1 is my favorite memory, Merle Haggard.

First time we met is favorite memory of mine. They say time changes all it pertains to, but your memory is stronger than time. I guess everything does change except what you choose. to recall. There's a million good day dreams to dream on. Baby, you are my favorite memory of all.

Well done. Love that one. That's my word. Highenated, well done. Love the loose. Hiphonated, that was really good. Yeah. We're getting pretty loose with our hyphenated words over here.

My word. Poetic. Nice. Hyphenated, don't know any of them. Yeah. I told you. You know, I told you. Yeah, you knew the ludicrous one.

Interactive. Nice. Predictable for Zach. Yeah. Hyphenated. You stole that. I was going to say hyphenated par for the chorus. Yeah.

Highfinated free show. Yeah. I'm over here. There's zero depth to the songs that I chose. Taylor's telling stories. He's telling stories and singing. I'm talking about, give me that pussy.

Yeah. How to suck, Dick. Like, taking it in the ass. Hey, man. All skills. Do you ward it in your pussy? Magical. Buddy.

All right, new singles out. Good times and tan lines. We popped that bad boy on in our team meeting today. Oh, yeah. We did. Nice. What did you think? How'd you come up with that?

I thought it was good. You can lie to me if you need to, because I don't want to hear that it's bad, but. Can I be honest with you? Yeah, come on. We put the first 45 seconds on. And then one of our guys paused it. What a jackass.

He's been fired. And Taylor made the comment, this is 90s country. Yeah. This is 90s country. It's pretty down the middle. No curve balls here. I believe the idea was Carson's actually. Or he just saw it somewhere, like on a t-shirt.

Half the songs we write is, you know, some dumb things. You see it on a bumper sticker somewhere. Exactly. See one of these goofy stickers in here or something. Bush Cheney. I haven't seen any. Yeah, Bush Cheney. That's your next one. Beef, what's for dinner?

Yeah, that's a good one. But yeah, so he saw, yeah, something on a t-shirt, whatever it was. And I'm like, man, that sounds like a song. Good time to tail line. So we wrote it with another buddy, mine, White, McCubbin, great writer. Yeah, just felt like it was. It's all there. I could.

There's some of those, like, titles, like, cold beer and country music was another one of them that it's like, it's kind of like, how did somebody not write this already? And it seems like it's just like almost low-hanging fruit kind. It's just like, that's right there. How's that not been done? So anyway. George Strait did write Cold Beer Conversations, right? Well, he didn't write it, but somebody did. I can't remember who did.

Fair enough. But, yeah, I think Dean Dillon was on that song. But anyways, yeah. I don't know. It's just, yeah, there's no secrets here. It's just a fun. It's supposed to be a good time summer anthem song, you know. It's not going to change the world. Maybe it'll change somebody's tax bracket. I don't know. Yeah.

There you go. They'll change the vibes on a boat. Yeah, absolutely. It has been, yeah, we've been cranking it up already when we've been out on the boat. It's a good boat song for sure. Yeah. Just as summer starting to hit heavy force. That's good.

It honestly, I was telling us to the guys while we wrote it. So we never said anything about this, but I was homeschooled from all the way up to my sophomore year of high school, I guess, and then went to community college. Anyway, homeschooled, Christian family. So, like, I wasn't a very wild kid in high school or anything. They're not even wild, but just like doing stuff like this. I was going to bluegrass vessels. I was kind of a nerd. And it's worked out okay, so I'm not, you know, complaining.

but I feel like hearing other people's stories of high school where they're like sneaking out and like you know drinking with their friends all night and whatever yeah just like I wouldn't hardly even I wouldn't allow to date anybody I couldn't do anything it was a very kind of like sheltered childhood

and I had a great time nothing but fun memories but I was telling the guys I was like this is like I'm kind of writing this as what I imagine my high school experience should have been. Like just running around with my buddies. Having a good time. Yeah, exactly.

Chasing girls and skinny dipping and whatever. Anyway, I was being a nerd and trying to learn to play guitar like Tony Rice. So, yeah, you've definitely picked the right path instead of just chasing girls. Yeah, it's worked out.

Okay. Yeah. When you got to Colorado, yeah. Did you find yourself going through like a rebellious phase at all? Like being in this like kind of, it sounds like a sheltered life. Yeah.

Can't date people. Then you go around. There's girls walking around. Yeah, no, I really wasn't. I was still fairly, like, yeah, I got drunk with my college roommates a bunch. So that was fun. But I never did anything very crazy. I still don't.

Still, I still have it. What was the most amount of trouble you got into in high school? In high school. Well, I was dating a girl that, uh, or no, we weren't allowed to be dating. So whatever, we hung out. Secret. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

A forbidden love. Yes. Oh, dude. Yeah. A Romeo and Juliet's a Jewish movie. Yeah, I was texting this girl too much, and so my parents took my phone away. It was like a solid full summer of just nonstop warfare with my parents over this chick.

And she would like, I didn't have a phone. I didn't have my own car, so I had to borrow one of my parents' cars to go anywhere. So she would come like drive. to my street at like two in the morning and I would sneak out the basement window and run up and we go Parker car in the sand dunes and make out

Yeah, make out Yeah, that's it. Feel some boobs. Yeah. Some over the pants, some over the pants stuff. Always. Always.

What a heavy breathing. Oh, yeah. Let's go. A lot of breaks for life off your mouth. Yeah, man. There's a, just the denim of your pants, absolutely giving you a callus on your knees.

Just like, My God, please do something to it. What a feeling, dude. Those were the days. Life was so simple. Being in high school and meeting somebody and being like, wow, maybe something could happen here is maybe the greatest rush. Any human being will ever have in their life. It's wild.

Everyone remembers their first time. Everyone remembers like making out for the first time doing anything. Dry humming. Just like, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Let's just rub our pants together. and just grab feeling a little I feel over a shirt man God just going home with the yeah go ahead finish just going home with the empty nut in your jeans

yeah yeah and like at first you're upset about it but then eventually dries you're like I guess find these again it's cool yeah yeah oh this in the hamper hide it under some clothes that's how that's what I was about to say because mom's doing love and so to bury that thing bad in there. Oh, gosh. Dude. Yeah, those, some of those just sitting there watching a movie with a couple girls and just, you know,

you're like just press it against their thigh. Like they don't, like, they don't, like it's going to activate something crazy. Yeah, yeah. Like, you feel that? You're just stressed out. Catch it a cramp. Yeah.

Those are the days. Run a song about that, dude. Yeah. This is it, dude. This is the song. This is it. Blue balls. Good times and dry humpings.

If you relate to anything we just said, this is the song for you. You want to go back to high school when you used to fuck up your denim pants? Zach Topps, good times and tan lines is the song for you. No, that's a new scene. You guys have that too if you want. It's got to be called. It's got to be called blue balls. Got to be called blue balls.

Yeah, I'm blue for you. Yeah. Dada. Oh my goodness. That's fucking awesome, dude. Yeah. Yeah, you should, we can, anytime you want to have a brand. We're here.

Yeah. You already asked about it when I start running out of material to write about it. Yeah, we'll just tell you about our high school situations. Just text me a couple of high school stories. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Getting a little group chat. I do kind of want to ask him the question, but I feel like Tyler I'm gonna get mad.

One of the OG busing questions. Would you cut your dick off for a Super Bowl? No, when he lost a V card. Is that an OG question? That's how we used to start. It's more like it would tell us about the first time you yanked it. It feels like it's not. the show yeah we've grown we have we've grown we're adults this is a good

yeah family friendly on here no you can ask you no I'll stay away from that I'll stay wait for me dude this has been it was a long time but like but like oh it's right so you know how people would do anything for a but light an ice cold but light what would Zach allegedly no no no no my bad anybody would do anything anybody and everybody would do anything for bud light what would Zach Top do anything for Can't say family? Yeah, I know, I know. I already got the breakdown.

I already got the rundown. Oh, okay. I'm all prepared, okay? I wonder what the notes are like that come in for our guests. It wasn't hardly anything. Tyler just texted me this morning and said, just type that question and said, Can't Say Family.

And then he told me to prepare a list of songs, which I kind of did. And that was it. That's awesome. But yes, what would I do anything for? I want to be better at golf. Just there is other than parking girlfriend's car in the sand dunes and making out all night, the best feeling in the world is just hitting a flush golf shot. And if I could just hit the ball flush every time, that'd be amazing.

I like that answer. Yeah, it's kind of boring. You rounded it out nice. Yeah. I really, really better at golf. I was like, all right. Yeah, it's pretty boring. No, no, I got, yeah, just hitting flush golf shots.

I want, I want to have that energy. I kind of have that energy on a pool table. I'll hustle some people on a game of pool. Lately, somehow a TikTok video got posted. Some dude after a show came up and asked me to play pool for $100, and I beat him and took his $100. So now, if fans see me and I'm playing pool somewhere

they'll come up and play me for $100 and I don't believe I've lost yet so I just love the energy of and I'm not that good I'm not like great I played in a pool league for a little while I played in a pool league for a little bit look at that see that one was for my music video I had to miss that on purpose

did you see how nicely I missed that you had to do that in purpose yeah yeah for my it was bad luck the music video for bad luck look at that thing is that how much did that piss you off a lot dude oh it's yeah it hurts that was an easy shot too um but yeah no just the energy of like being able to hustle somebody out just taking somebody's money at anything and golf is a really fun one nothing like i love taking people's money at golf and i hate getting my money taken in golf it's if you could play golf against one person who would it be like just like

play around with somebody. Play around for money. Probably John Daly. Well, yeah, but then I'm going to lose his ass. Yeah. See,

yeah. Yeah, so I just pick like the worst player, I know. Well, yeah, pick some money. No,

you love taking money from. Somebody that I love taking money from. Owen punches, my sound guy. He got a little cocky attitude on him. So a bunch of the guys, yeah,

you're not going to find Owen punches on the internet. I'm sorry. Anyways. So Dave, the piano player, Jimmy, the bass player, and O and my sound guy have all kind of started getting into golf. So they like to go out and golf with me. I'm not very good. I'm like an eight handicap right now, I think. They're horrible.

They're like a 40 handicap, all of them. So we would play, they would do a three-man scramble against me. And we'd play for $100 on the whole match or something. and I went through a stretch where I was playing the worst golf of my life and they beat me one time and I had to pay them that was the absolute worst and then we went out and played like the next week or something and I started talking shit because Owen was Owens the biggest shit talker in the world and so they won that one time and mind you if this guy played by himself his own ball, he'd shoot 175. So, anyway, and they're beating me in the scramble. And he was talking a lot of shit.

So then the next time we played, I was like, all right, Owen, just put your money where your mouth is, buddy. We're playing for 200 today. And, you know, big money, I know. Anyway, it is. Yeah, that's fucking cool. Anyway, and then they beat me again.

And so now I'm just in the seventh. circle of hell with shame and disappointment. And then a third time we go out and play. And now I'm talking a lot of shit because I'm just like, yeah, you got lucky twice. Don't worry, it's not going to happen again. Lo and behold, they beat me a third time in a row. And then Owen just got a little out of hand and he starts talking about how he's going to beat me playing his own ball.

And I was just like, dude, how delusional do you have to be that you got lucky three times playing a three-man scramble versus me. Now you think you're going to beat me playing your own ball. And so then we played and I beat him. And anyway, it just felt really good after all the shit talking, all the shame and disappointment. It seems like they beat you down mentally meant so much that it's what you would do anything for is just a flush golf shots.

Yeah. Yeah. Your boys have mentally got you so bad. Owen is so deep. It's on my head. What, we've won the war. Yeah. Owen needs that clip.

What did you do anything for it? Beat my friend. Yeah, yeah. They keep beating me. Take Owen Punch his money at golf. Yeah. Yeah. How much did you?

So you played for 100? Yeah. Lost. 200 lost. And then 200 again. So that's $500. What'd you know and I play for one on one? I think just a hundred.

And we only played like five holes or something. So you're still in the hole. Oh, yeah. For sure. I don't know how to come back from that financially. No. It's, yeah. It's.

Yeah, I need to start a payment plan or something. Yeah, we do loans. Yeah, interest rates are high. I'll be honest, inflation tariffs. You know how old thing goes right now. But yeah, we've got some stuff out there for you. It's tough out there. Before we get out of here, is there anything you want to promote, say, give out, give a shout out to somebody.

Yeah. You've got it. New record coming out. Obviously, the new single came out on the ninth. Yeah, today. Yeah. And then, yeah, I've got a new record coming out. August 29th.

I promised the people a summer album, and I barely made it. But we've got it. August 29th, the record we called Ain't in it for My Health, which I think is pretty funny. It was kind of a, it's a line out of one of the songs out of the first song on the album,

but it's kind of like a, oh, look, the image is already out. Shit. Oh, I guess they, yeah, that was getting posted day, getting announced. So yeah, that's that, ain't in it for my health. Um, yeah, it's kind of like a little, uh, I'm here to stay, uh, statement, you know. Yeah.

It's like a, I ain't a one hit wonder sort of thing. Uh, anyway. So yeah, new record. Excited about that. 15 songs. Well, you got one of them today. Um, yeah, 14 more. So, 14 more songs.

Yeah. Is there, is there a song in that album that you're like most proud of that you're like, I hope people love this one? There's a few. Um, obviously, I love all the songs. I wouldn't have put them on the record if I didn't. But yeah, there's, there's like, um, I'm a little older now than, like the stuff on the first record and there's like a couple more life sort of songs um and i think

there's a couple of those that there's one called between the ditches um that i think is going to be i hope is going to be pretty powerful i think it is um hopefully people resonate with it but yeah there's i don't know there's a bunch stuff on there i'm really really excited about and it's kind of you know it's it's same on me it sounds you know sounds like the same artist but i think the music has matured a little bit and it's it's moving forward and yeah it doesn't sound like just you know same old bland yeah but jack you have something i do have a question and i think people like to know this i'd like to know this excluding yourself who or zach tops top three live touring acts currently oh nice uh jake worthington he's a guy that's been out opening some shows for us uh he is phenomenal one of the

best singers and as country is cow shit he's hilarious. I love that dude. I'll say Dirk's Bentley. I'm not trying to just plug who we're on tour with right now, but we're on tour with Dirk's Bentley. He's just hilarious. His whole show is kind of a comedy routine and a big old bit. In fact, that's what he says. He says there's, there are no hits, there are only bits. And so it's, I don't know, his show is just very entertaining to watch. Super funny. And Chris Stapleton, probably. He's just, I don't know. I I love the in the age of like guy, and I ain't knocking it, but like there's a lot of guys run around with a wireless mic holding a red solo cup, uh, singing their songs.

And he just stands up there, uh, behind the microphone and holds his guitar or plays his guitar and sings and captivates people with that voice. I don't know. It's cool. I love Stapleton. And just badass songwriter obviously too. But yeah. Uh, two part question as well.

Yeah, come on. Is there anything the fans can expect in the future? of a potential Zach Top, Billy Strings album. Oh, that's a good question, man. We had so much fun doing that little project, little mini project together. I love Billy. For some reason, he seems to be able to tolerate me too.

It's fun to, like, he inspires me so much. There's not, it's like, I don't know. Sometimes it can feel hard to, I just, every time I get around him, it's like, God dang, I need to go practice my guitar. I need to go practice my singing. I need, he just like makes me want to be better. It's not at all.

It's like, oh, I'm not as good. It's just like it's a very positive type of, damn it, I want to be better. And so I love every time I get to be around him. Nicest dude in the world, too. But yeah, we will do more things in the future together for sure. The people want that. I don't know exactly. Yeah, I don't know exactly what it's going to look like.

But yeah, love, yeah, being on shows with him and stuff and making music together. We'll do something. I am the people. I am the people. The people are. I speak for, I am the fans. I speak for them. That's awesome.

Brother, shot Billy Strings. Yeah. Yeah, hell yeah, Billy Stinks. Come on the show, baby. Yeah, Billy. It's a large time. You are crushing it,

and it's been an honor to have you on the bus. Appreciate that. Thank you guys. You're having me. People are starting to love you. You're ascending right now. Hope the album crushes. We wish you all the success.

We will all stay in touch. Hell yeah. Especially when you bring the fam on. Amen. And you hit the bluegrass. Hell yeah. If I get him convinced. events to do it. I'm inviting you to the show.

Yeah, we can do the introduction. Hell yeah. I love it. Hell yeah. That's what I need to do. Yeah. You have you come do your introduction for me on the- I'll do that.

When we're playing Nashville or something. Just, I'll even do it for free. Well, the first one will be free. Yeah. Yeah. Once you see the pop. You want like a heroin dealer. First one's free.

Let's get you hooked. You know? We get you hooked on everything that's going on. Yeah. We do, we've done so many podcasts. And every time we have somebody on that we don't know, there's always this little, anxious worry. Hopefully the DS wants to talk

have a good time. You've been that brother. It has been awesome to hang out. Hear your stories. That's going to be cool to see your success in the future. Appreciate that. Keep on going. I had a blast with you guys. We'll see it to Beer Olympics. Yeah. 2026. You're in? You'll be blacked out. Yeah. Shaked on it right now.

Yes. Blime. Done. You guys are going to hate us, dude. We're so bad in scheduling. We're like three months before. Like you guys do this, but you guys see the tour and it's like he said he would. He's going to fucking do it. He's going to find some new material. Yeah, yeah. Let's give Zach a right of a applause.

Thank you guys. What a great time. Nice. Incredible, dude. Appreciate you. Appreciate you. Appreciate you coming on the bus. You have an invite forever. Big hugs. Thank you guys. Very much. Tone of kisses.

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