café snake - BBL en Tunisie pour PKP

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

Mounir couvre la rentrée médiatique et Daphné revient sur la saga des chirurgies en Tunisie avec Medespoir en s’intéressant au marketing de réseaux et aux liens que ce type de structure entretient avec la religion pentecôtiste. Aussi: le phénomène K-Pop Demon Hunters, le déclin de Ssense, les prières de rue et de l’arc médiatique de Steve Paikin.PS- Un des micros ne fonctionnait pas, sorry :(Notre Patreon : patreon.com/cafesnakeDigiMix:Jeune Loup & Mike Shabb - RxDéclin de Ssense:Is Ssense hurting the cool-clothes ecosystem?Blackbird Spyplane, https://www.blackbirdspyplane.com/p/is-ssense-hurting-the-cool-clothes-ecosystemPyramides partout:Nathalie Luca : Anthropologue françaisehttps://hal.science/hal-03726594/documentMulti-Level Marketing: At the Crossroads of Economy and ReligionRecommandation culturelle :Archives C-Sides, Cédric Dind-Lavoiehttps://www.cedricdindlavoie.com/archives-c-sides

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our Patreon so Patreon.com bar oblique Cafe Snake. Do what do you do about today? I've reigned

on Medespoor who has been called Pyramid Partoo. It would be also called MLM Partoo,

ESPol Nob. For to talk to the Vontapalier multiple or marketing

of the radio, I talked about Medespor but I didn't enter in the structure

economic of the thing and effectively Medespor is an agency is an agency can be

sometimes of the allure of pyramids. And there's the go to and I'm going to talk to the boat, the scandal continue,

Monir, you've been on on the end up there. Mary Maxim will start the dossier, the sciatrice

purulent, etc. What I'm interested also is what I have learned because I don't know

to learn on the religion, it's the line between the MLM and the croions

pant-coteist. And then what you're to what you have been my segment Entry PECop and we

We'll talk of the Rentry cultural mediatique that's that we

monopolized the text of Guaduma and the different publications in the last year

so we review the entry TVvisual cultural at through the things

that I had done last last year on the DG News DG News

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Right So you and if you say anything like that I have on many occasions punch blokes in the mouth right So I'm restraining myself today You can definitely tell the difference between people who've been obsessed with the internet for more than a decade, and people who are kind of newer to the obsession game, I call it long-term social media use.

First of Giniu is best to the beer, the booty is bad, Cindy. The first I just wanted to just remember on something we've talked about the week. All of the report of the commission presided by Christian Pellchea and Guillaume Russo is out on the state of the application of the law 21, on Quebec, so the law

on the laicity, it's made in a sort of the government is set up to say that they would have done a project of

law to encodry the prior to they say, encodry, interdier, we don't know. And it's has suited

a lot of discussion in the apparee political. I personally like we've seen, if we had heard

if we're there was a trailer the print time there, I've really really observed

all the discourse that we're everywhere and it's sure that the answer for

the response for real, it's François Legault, as it's going to be talking about by the way I'll stream this

on direct on Twitter so tap in Twitchpoint TV Barrowder Laval It's that there's plenty of controversies, there's not

only that, there are all the manifestations of the people oftoctone on the law 97 that will

make to make to make sure the organization and the administration of Quebec that cause a frontment

that forestier and the prime nation there's the there's there's there's what there's that

there and there now we're now we're we're talking the last week we're

They were taken to panel and of panel and to the jute. Where is there too Arab? There are past Arab. They're too Muslimists. It's these Islamists. It's the fraggis muslimat. Now, we're treated all of frayrism, of lantrism,

all these terms that that we've imported to jargon, of Erick, Zemo. Honestly, I'm hot to go where is it going to be because, as well, I've said,

for the people who are on abone on Patreon, while that's all that process all these prayers Muslim. It's like, what's what happens

publicly, it's because of Islam, it's not because of any other manifestation. We see directly by the billet of one of the co-president of the committee, Kirsten Pensh, who said that the voile was to cache the face sooyed of the femme. She said, she was parted of plenty of opinion that she declared during the conference of press.

It's like, it was like, Therbeck, where the people, where the people are, well, for evite the problems, we serve of the nouriture-all-a-le-to-to-the-to-le-to-le. So, so, you know, first. That's a case of two that we've given. Absolutely, but that, it's a example. The example that that does, the law is not sufficiently ensigned. You have said this morning that the students,

now I'm going to go ahead of CEP, the students who put a veil that cover the visage during the course at home, it's an unacceptable. It's an attint to the dignity of the women, you have said. Is that you're not

advantage in an avi personal when you're saying that, Madam Pitchard? Ah, well, it's sure that an idea, it's always personal. But you're a commissaire and author.

It's an avie juridic. Attention, it's an I'm not saying. I've already said in 2007. I'll repeat. When you say it's an opinion, it's always personal,

it's a new you're an expert, you're that's my answer, but you're Mr. Rousseau and you, you are you, you're

expert in that? Absolutely. Is that is an view personal that you have on the question? It's an view of

that, and I plead that also. If we're listening a bit, she listen a bit question, she

like the affair the most degradant to the world, and she, her, more egalitarian, that we're

that we're making the condition of the farm in his perception that's the Quebec Enways. But there's that I've seen

much of course to say, like, it's even not a real problem, there's not no problem, there's there's a reflex to make,

you showle on what it's not true, it's true, and at each manifestation, if it's time during

the hour of the prayer that's like the prayer of the prayer, like, they've been doing the like,

it's not, it's not it doesn't, there's all time, there's all the during the manifestations? Yeah, but there's

always even, I think, at Montreal, there's many, I think at Outremont I've abated

long time, there's there's always, there's there's all the many people, but there, I saw many

people, I saw people, try to try to when there had been to make me a date,

like if you don't know, I'm not, I don't, that's the worst reflex rhetoric, to say,

like, no, what you think you not true and you insurge for it's just

just more of polarization so, my analysis. While that it's all the movement evangelical

that continue to take to take to bring to Montreal and with the avenement also

of the movement revival Montreal. They are literally these prayers of the week?

At each day. Each day. In a book very declared

explicit of... It's the proselitism. It's like literally it's the sole objective.

We have made in the part Patreon the week I'm the

strategy where is what they do a troupement around the praise music, so the music religious, and there it's attire the fools, the tourists, and they have

some soul winners who they're called, so they're gangers for talk to and they're to give their life to Jesus.

That's literally of the proselytism organized. You know, during the manifestations pro-Palestine, the world

is pretty and move on, there's not really preche, a part, when there had been

Adil Sharcawi so, so, so, so, they're really Orgadi, and in this moment, there's no recuperation in the media, I prevo that will arrive.

And, in plus, they've, they've put this attack against the prayer of the like they were ceded. So, here's it. He thinks really

that the government do the government do the war. You know, use their language against their movement

evangelical, and he'll make a clip, the commandment of Logo this morning. Legal Government the table

bill to ban pray in public. For banning the prayer in public. This is the Arctic. We are not backing down. We are not backing down.

We respect the government. Romaine 13, without my sense. But when government tries to get on what the Bible says, the Bible reigns on that. Yes, I'm a Montreal. Yes, I'm a Quebecer. Yes, I'm a child of God first.

I respect the government. But I respect Monseigneur and a sovereign Jesus Christ. This world needs Jesus Christ. It's a world wicked perdu. The Rome of God will reign here in Montreal. That's all I'm saying.

We're going to get to that point. The enemy will try to attack it. The enemy will try to make plenty of law, to divide the people. There's nothing You can't You can't Arrayalue

The Revevee There's nothing That's going to stop us It's Jesus He said He's clearly That the Bible That's over

The government What's what We're reproach all the time To say What's the What's the Law of the Republic

Or the Laws of The Religion And we And we'll say If you You're not The Law of the Republic

You're not A real French But he He said literally Like the Bible It's superior

The Law The Government So, you It's like What's We're in They're in trying to do it, I'm trying to do it, I'm

at all the moment, and they have they're telling they're still soff of the coverage media, that I know how it's going to be like

so past. So, Amidstee, Revival, Montreal, the prayer of the road, honestly. I'll tell one of the

thing, you know, the Matibote is really at discover, now, he's really we're not a problem with the

religions, the Christians, we have some with the Islam, the Islam political. I'm sure that the

government also the government also assume a bit, because there they're just the lawicity, it's the good sense, it's blah, blah, blah.

It's like, no, you don't know the Islam, you think it's not compatible with the Quebec. And the other degree, what's the people that Matthew Bocote will never say, but he'd say in France sometimes, is that

all this isue on a war of milan, they want to conquer, it's the Islam political who want to control our institutions who want to establish the charity.

That's when you push their but they'll say never in the media. And Francis Lego and he's used the view of

monongue he can't instrumentalist, these discourses, for, like, for, like, you know, I'm afraid,

for real, because I'm impression that this sur-encher that of attention mediatic can't really, because Francoe

it's a lot and like, and so, on Quebec 125, you project zero siage at the cap, you know, he's parted

of an ultra majority at zero siage. So, like, he return, tap on the clue that works,

I don't that will functioned ultimately, but it's It's a little that it lets like as a digger. So, we'll see that

at Café Sin. But, just in the same vein, it's particular because it's there really the religion

evangelical that sincere to more and more in the view there I'm on a TikTok. I don't know if it's

you're going to get it. In fact, it was like a reportage of new by the journalist

Elliot Tremblay who talked to the enormous panos of Jesus Christ that has been

installed in the central city of Cherbrook, in a first part, he will interrogate the passants to know what are the reaction, and it's not the shocker-outremeasure.

He's hard to make. You know, we don't have to be all of that. Jesus, we don't know to hear of him. You know, I think it's belle-paree.

Jesus, you're indifferent. Plus, considerate, I didn't even not even remarked. I can't say that me derange, so it's correct. In 2025, I thought

it's a special. We'll have, I said that, I don't know that there's a little bit of that. And then, I'm going to meet him. He said, he paid for the panos of the affichel. But in a time, in a country, he said, I'm sorry. Well, see, it's that the Quebec doesn't take part of the laisity. He tends to excure the Muslims of the public.

Because the Quebec is marked too much by the Christianist and Catholicist. If the public Canadian-Pranian-Pransed today, it's at cause of the Church Catholic. It's anchored profoundly. So, there's a pocket that says Jesus, Canton-Eville, that's called St. Michel des Saint. But what I've found interesting, is that finally, this vague

that of Christianity is not Catholic. It comes of the branch protestant of the religion, very different of our

racine, let's say, let's talk, Canadian, and then the journalist Eliot Tremble will even

interview the person that has financed the affichage of this panos and there,

and then, the guy will directly to speak in the Korea of South. He says

in Korea of South, when you march in the there are plenty of panos like that and he found it really inspiring. D'Earraud, there's 30%

of the population who is protestant, often in the branches evangelic. It's a publicity also this idea of Jesus Christ for a branch of the religion that's called

The Last Reformation. I was going to do some research that's up a part of a Danoan Torbun Sundergaard I don't know it's key, but

it's like to be in exile or there like to have passed to time in prison. He comes an church evangelicalic

of tradition neo-Pancoctist. I'm not a specialise in religion but it's a little little bit more so I'm trying to understand

a little bit. This branch of the religion there has really some similarity with the Good News Chapel which you

talk constantly that they're going to preach at every day. The tradition pontocotist that I've

learned, is it really actually on the manifestations visible of St. Espry in the view

of the idea of this idea of garrison public, because you said they found also the healing in but also the people speak in tongues,

so they're making to speak in tongues, like if the God was like through them, that it comes to pancoteism. And then,

I'm going to visit the site web of last reformation.com. It can have not a lot of no rapport, but I think it's a

rapport in fact with my subject of this week. Because on this site web there, you find all

sort of trailer, of video, of merchandise, of package that you can like how to create a disciple movement, so how to create

a movement of disciples, here's the elements key for to do you know, how pass

to three house church to ten house church in one year? It's really like a discourse that's

approach to the entrepreneurial and the hustle culture. For example, look this series eight

party, eight ensignment, and we talk also a kickstart, so finally it's, The language of the startup.

Exactly, but this site internet, you can make a call to them for they come to start a kickstart in your city to finally partier a movement religious. And, I mean, it made think also to the discourse of the marketing of the reso,

the famous MLM, don't I want you talk to, the structures pyramidal, where we want, we do, we do some formations in marketing numeric,

which are vending to people who finally are to find these formations, they, they also. It's just to retain for my segment Pyramid Partoo,

because I explain the link between the MLM and the English Pankotist. I just also note that

we're talking we're talking to church, the church, of the church, but it's also to reproach with the

language of the media social when we're talking about, so the people, it can also

be people people, when we're talking about the number of people, we're not say,

my community, and it's a little this language that also that we find

in the church evangelic. It's the critic cultural. I've finally convinced Daphne to listen K-pop Demon Hunters, the best film of the history. Realizatrice Maggie Kang,

a Canadian, born in Korea of the South. Film produced by Sony that has been sold to Netflix by the suite. So K-pop Demon Hunter, the title, the title, the title, it's a phenomenon

that's the film the film the more regarded of the history of Netflix, a group of K-Pop that is the story of K-P the day and who's the story. I think I really

I really liked that. And he protege also the population of the demons in chantant. Exactly. So it's, it's, it's

inspired in the mythology Korean and in the fact, we have a little exposition at the

beginning, that at their power and their popularity, their voice, it's far, it makes

congregate the people, and it protect, it creates, it's a frontier natural between the

world of the world of the world of demons, so their quest and to protect and to

finalize this barrier there for that, for that the demons don't even in the world of mortals. It's very catchy, very interesting.

The word, it's a geistie. Honestly, I just said that last night I had, I'm coming a bull on the

brain and I said that there had also an influence evangelic pontchotist in this show that.

And like I discovered that the Korea in the after the after-gare it was massively

converted to this type of religion that, so I would I would have like Plainjean, but Munaire

me rebrewed in me making me making sure that I'm in the complo. No,

but it's interesting but you know, but it's that I think when I'm Geistie for the film, it's like,

you know, that the film starts to us to make in context of the universe, it's

a vox pop of an new type or, you know, entertainment news, why you like you

like, on Tricks, which is like the name of the band in the group in

the film, and what is interesting is that one of the first piece of media that I've invited to to say, look, how it's a

great phenomenon K-pop Demon Hunter. It was a reportage of CNN on TikTok who'd did a vox-pop of an infant who said

why they'd make the film. It's not really similar to anything else I've ever seen in my 10 years' life time.

The animated film K-pop Demon Hunters is on track to be Netflix's most watch movie of all time.

I think what's different about it is that it's a demon movie and like a K-pop movie mixed together, and usually it's like just K-pop or just demons. It's like a kid movie, but it has a tiny bit of violence.

Kids normally don't like watching violence. Some kids do, like me. It's like the film, it's a constant prophecy auto-realizatrists, because all the image of the group of K-pop who conquere the charts, well, he's had passed in the real life. We've seen, literally, the group. to become the group of music the most popular in this moment that we're in regis

these lines, the song Golden, which is like the song, the theme, and number one on the Hot Round Hundred of the Billboard. So, it's also in the songs the most listened to the world on the platform of streaming Spotify. You know, it's a success

also of Bush and Rave because the film is out of 23 years. So it's a film that, in this moment, in all the month of July, have really been really people who look like, the people who look

people, but it's a film which benefits of a large priority intellectual. All in the film is comodicier, of the noluture that they mange, to their costume, to their music. It's gross, in the industry,

the cover, the cosplay, the edit. All in the film is created for able to create, to create, the content around this. So, yeah, my For You Page, there were a lot of people who didgize in roomy, the people who found these covers, and all these videos

are not, like, 200,000 like, are, like, 4 million of likes. You, it's like, I've never ever seen, in a series, but Strange Ratings, I think, it's even more more than than you

know, I'm going to I'm going to talk about a lot of I'm sorry I'm going to like the song

we couldn't write this is what it sounds like there's also there's some karaoke that have been used in the

cinema especially in Canada in the United States at guiche firm

of a bit inusite a film that is diffused on Netflix a platform of streaming

that finally made some it's they're they're they're even not with, just

the version karaoke, Netflix who has achieved the film at Sony 23 million because he thought he thought that the film

would not be able to be much more than the film, it's a film that the production has cost $100 million

of dollars and the the real question is, if it had been to the buzz? I think potentiallyly

yeah, and there's what in the pop diminutut the fact it's on the internet

that's it's not a niche but it's it's not it's just it's never heard

by the people. When a film is in a cinema and it's a immense success like, let's say, let's the film

rest in the cinema. There's what to go to go to do in where it could create maybe more more than what

it's a little month. I think that Frozen, it's a good film. I think K. K.A.

K.B. K.B. It would say, but the fact that it's accessible on Netflix in many countries in

more of 40 long, it has made so it's so it's so it's gotten to circulate a phenomenon.

So, I think that it would be possible just to cinema, but really Sony that drop the ball because they've lost millions of dollars. Ah, yeah. But it's, it, in the flage, you know, an espouse of Korean, of the culture Korean,

which has become immensely popular in the world, it's been more than a dozen of years, but because the government Korean, he has invested massively in the culture for developing this

kind of tool power, it's function. So, so, so, there, it's also to do people who ames the anime, who liked the K-pop,

there's there's kind of many people there's a lot of people what's going to what he's a lot of

a little bit of a lot of a little bit of how they treat the idols, the formation, how they they bring the

young, for they're doing the industry of the K-pop that's repache their personalities when they

are very, very young. And there, in the film, it's like really romanticized and it's really nice.

They, in the phone, it's their destiny, her mother had Rumi, she also had been in a band domain,

so an idea pretty mystical to be an hip-hop idol. But, to be chosen one. And, you know,

the film, I think, it's a new Masterclass because it's really a story that's a story that's

about, but it's all the referents, all the imagery, I think that's a film and it functions really,

and I think there's the conjecture that, musicalment in the case, we're kind

in a place where's a vid, all people people talk of the song of the summer. All the pop girlies

have not started these gross album, there's not the Brat Summer, there's not no expresso. We're

listen to Alex Warren and the Benson Boone. Like, musicalal there was a kind of

place where is the top 10 of the Billboard Hot 100 it's has been a year

that's the same the same so the people were with much impatance

that something that something would have a place, so it's there's the marries

Radford Sechris who of this film. And he he says that the children, he regard especially the films who are disputed

on YouTube, and the people who discuss these films on YouTube who produce this kind of content that. It's often people, so

you want to develop a film that will have a success, let's on the success, let's let's see the people, you know,

the public in the 20thene in-thead, in-tete, before you have to face a film that will

susite the desire of this clientele that, of this audience that, 20-year-old. But it's that, and it's

really seen as even I've seen some of the viewing of karaoke and you've got just to watch in plenty of people in a 20-en

who are trying to sing, and everyone is coming like, this full-grown adults there, and it's like, yeah,

but the film he plays to say on that, and it's many of them, they're they're going to listen to

Black Ping and BTS, so they're fans of K-P and they're playing, when we're talking,

we're talking, that the public also, he is included in the film, a dimension participative, with the point of view, the POV.

We're often placed as a spectator in the full, like we also, making part of the fandom of this group, of Chanteuse K-P. Even if we're sat on our sofa, we have the impression to be sat in the stage.

And even in the first scene, the demons say, you're not going to die, we're going to kill your fans. And then the group is like, all except our fans. Vourke you just say that.

You can't attack our fans. So we're like a person we know, I see, I think I thought that it's a successful, and certainly that we're de more and more habitual to consume a content that's address directly in us, you know, that's

that we're trying, on the other social. There are a lot, for example, I'd look at the comments or who, he said these little analyses feminist, that, I'm not necessarily,

that's not because it's like a group of females, maybe, I don't know, but there were people that there were that the visage of three women, the three women,

the band was able to emote like to express more more of emotion a palette really more

different than in the films of animation because apparently that the characters feminine of animation they have more

more of expression facial because it's all they it's all the style of animation that's really a bit more to look like

to look like it's a special mix that's like it's like it's a stop motion a bit to the impression

but it's like really made numerically With the style, let's one of the characters, she will be transformed in version Bubblehead of her with big eyes, and it's like,

there's a game with the reality and the design that's like, made play a lot of times for really exaggerate the reaction. So, there's really a lot of liberty in the style of animation. It's not just a film

of animation North American. What is it really? Because the version original of film, if it's in English, it's not in Korea. Yeah, I don't know if it's an expression facial consacred in the anime

or the animations are Korean, but, for example, when certain characters feminine lusts, desir, these guys simply for their physical,

well, there's like a little movement with their eyes, and then their eyes are to get to cracker to the popcorn.

Yeah, well, at the banana, and then they eat the popcorn that's plurred of his

ears. But it's just really a car cat, you know, it's like... It's so, so,

Bacon podcast. And there, I've recognized the Teach, like, it's not the guy who has moderated the debate in English of the last election federal? And yeah, Steve Pickin, who has been the animator of the Agenda at TFO in Ontario for almost more than 15 years. And now, his

show is made canceling, and he's parted a channel YouTube. I don't know if his show has been canceled, it's, it emanate of a decision personal, he seemed to say that he wanted to have more to do more of time for other things in his You said that it's a bit like the Patrice Roy of the Ontario.

It's he who's animated the debaarned in English. Well, it's massive the explosion in this guy. It's when he'd animated the debaarsely. So I imagine, if we're Patrice Roy, it's... Brief, he has pretty the route of the podcast. I think it's quite interesting,

because if you go to the media of direct, there, there's no batage mediatics on the fact that he's not a podcast. Zero. And it's just we in Quebec

that fucking six interviews, radio, TV, because a person's not a person's not a chain YouTube. Yeah, it's interesting to see that transition that, and I think it

looks like it seems vaguely at the chain of Trudin Peterson in the style, but I don't know if I think it's interesting that's pre this decision that, can't even. So, the last

Didigno's in the domain of the Mudd, Essence, the detailing of the vets, which we could also call the Amazon of High Fashion,

which was still valued at five million of dollars in 2021. So, apparently that these creanciers want, the permission

to sell the business, demand to be to be made to the protection of the law on the arrangements

with the clients of the company. Essen, it's been founded in 2003 by three Fras

and Baccel it. It employed like on the more people, I think, at Morale

even, there's there's there's not new I think there's really a really

a relentiment in the want to the money, and it has been

aggraved by the politics commercial to the United, so the famous

tariffs. It's me don't know the go to relere a super article that had been written on

a lot that I recommend to all those who are those and the people who's interested in the mode

so it's called Blackbird High Plains has been published in 2023. Evidentment, it's kind of

a new new thing can be a disaster for the little designer because we

see, perhaps that Essence has a their money, they don't never the

color of their color of their money. Maybe also that there there are

have been passed, who are going to be returned, it's sure that it will have a impact kind of negative, but perhaps also positive, to know that it's kind of a giant of commerce electronic essence, and there not just an impact positive in the domain

of the mode. It's that, in fact, that we're reading this article that that I'll put in the notes of the mission. The blog Blackbird Spyplane was asked, what the impact of this giant that, on the ecosystem of these vatements cool,

the vatements niche, vestments, yes, you know, design, but not, like, those brands, necessarily. There's kind of this idea also that S.N. It was certainly known for its vonts, so it's rabies, constant. So it had even become a meme in a certain community. When we'd

at Sense, we'd had to sell. Then, sometimes, it was some of the solds. For example, we could be on these articles in rabid at 43% of rabbi. This 43% that, in fact, it's a sound the algorithm.

And it's that also that's interesting in this business that, is that not only it's a commerce of detail electronic, but

it's in fact a company that's always used the data for, that's fonded in fact, its own

on the data and the analysis of the data. We can even say that before an company

of a business of vatement, to vows, it's a tech company. Their money, they they had

not necessarily in vending, with these gross marge they could be able to make some because they

they would be volume really gargiant US, which was really impressioning. And that it was like

if you're a little creator of a bijou at Morale and that you receive a command of

SN it can change your life because I can do you do have a command of $30,000

$40,000 dollars it was making that SN became a kind of a patron of the arts

because he permitted like that to survive and even to prospery in making these commands really voluminous. But what happened also is that when these items

even one day, two days after being in line, a cause of these algorithms would have some or had these espets of big rabbe applied on them,

it would have been predateur for the little boutique who vanded also in detail of their creations because they

are not capable to be able to make these rabbe that. But, it was still damageable for the ecosystem, finally, of vans, of creation vestimentary in the lux. And the other affair, is that even if you're a creator of bijou and that you don't necessarily have a far with Essence,

it's sure that if I pass a command of $80,000, of $100,000, but you're not necessarily in position to say no, because at the base, it's just really hard to arrive when we're an artisan. In reality, it would be that, I'm in the time of Essence, I'd just do you make two commands of $100,000 for two seasons consecutive. So, you're well content. You can't say no.

Salf that it's the more small boutique, they're firm. And these more petite boutique, there, well, it's maybe they would have, yes, they'd have not made these gross commands like that, but they'd have a long term with them, and they'd have stood new, year after year. So if they see, with the don't know

that you want not necessarily, or the tendency, it's more, it's not the bijo that you create, well, it's going to be around. They're going to be there. It's really interesting the model of the enterprise of Essence in passing to this company

really in function of the record of the data and the analysis of the data and also the kind of dimension speculative. It was that their

model of affair. It was also to have really a vision numeric or algorithmic because he had the

presions at the algorithms to see where the market is in lineed it. It was what

the vibes finally? And that it fashioned even the production artistic vestimentaire

because he could directly talk to these little mark emergent or these creaters emergent, and to their

say, not only we're to commande for, I know how many million dollars, but we, we're going

is a mantle that's a so-se-se-se. So, they're going encourage certain brands to produce this

mantle that. In rapport to this mantle there, it exists at cause of an aggregation of the

data. It's a prediction of market that are made in function of the don't,

they're said, I think the jackets in cuir vegan with three zippers is that

they're going they're quite, they're kind of an input on the output artistic of the

artisans because they want really not only not only they're their comments,

but they they're really they're going to create some collections exclusive by example

specific by them they're doing their indications clear that they're found

on it's super interesting and I see how finally this structure

that economic. It generates a form of aplanisman algorithmic, of the mode, and perhaps that, like the enterprise of Essence, we know that it's not just at cause of the tariffs. I think that the tariffs are a bit like the stress on the Sunday.

Is it demonstrated not that is it's insuffled in some part? That's not had been retombed vised or volu after a certain time. It has also this impact to homogenize, finally, a little, the mode.

Because if we're based on the data, the data, it's It's still, yes, it does a portrait of what is wanted, but it's also the pout of what the mass wants, and it's not necessarily that we want in the domain of the art. Often, we want to be distinctly, you know, we're

to be different. I think that's it. The model will be able to be functioning a certain time, and he has finished by sepuise. Brief, I, I encourage really to read this article that I'm again again, in the notes

of the mission. My segment, Pyramid Partout. I wanted to pursue certain reflections on the model MLM-Kewat, so marketing or whatever the word that we employ for on parley,

like I said in certain cases, even if it's a milieu who is laic, it's apprised in the religious,

evangelist, it's a rapport also with the Zagaiis, as you know, there's like a renautist at Morale.

I'm a murderer. I am a murderer. I am a drug seller. Or, I am a drug seller. I'm more.

I'm a friend of God. I'm a child of God. I'm a nation-saint! I am a holy nation! A sacerdose royal! I'm the same thing you have chosen! I want to say, again

once, that I've been against these persons, notably several women who are part of the MLM, who vans, all this. I'm interested in the discourse, and it's even these subjects that I've been aborted

in my book, my essay-maquired, because the marketing of the radio, it has really a parented also with the economy of the influence, so the influencers. It's the capital social

that primes, which is determinant in the two cases. What is interesting also with the capital social, is that it's not something that you heritringed, like, for example, you'd eritrary of a fortune as a nepo baby. It's repose on the results of the effort individual and, more globally, of a personality. So it's like if you're like if you were responsible

of your success. And it's a lot of that we're also, like, philosophy on the social. And then, I return to amends'hospore. Obviously, I don't know if you you see if you see see if you're on Reddit, TikTok, or a year, but

there are several stories of horror that are out of the media, I think even at TVA, some people who are not satisfied of their

chirurgy, the gross cicatrists, the people who have used infections, all sorts of complications, yeah,

and all recently, so in the last week, or the two last week, several agendas of liaisons who had

the promotion of Medespoor were made to quitted the battle in mass. The Grand Rive of Tunisian. I live

on the Chirugé, it's not past. When I was out of there, I was content. I had

some good so much, I had to say about to say, but I had a gane. I was enfleed, I had

some blue on the vand, I was satisfied to that, but there I just said to see the

resulta. I'm now at four months post-up. I have some vene that had

eclated on my vandal. As you know, I have made a deposition of body

head and an augmentation to my mare. So I'm there's a vene that got clatted

on my vand, I'm there's the bus, I've been even, dear like

the rock. It's probably that are in part lily to the media press that

MEDesport has actually on the social, but also in the media institutional.

And who are these women that quit the battle who were the agents

of liason finally, for me of despot, it's certainly these women that had a good following on TikTok

who had been recruited by Chantal Deni, the odie of the agent of liason.

So, my work is logistic, he is human, and is professional.

And I have done with passion, honesty, and respect. And plenty of love for the

and not for the money. Because all what you know, you know, it's all

the It's all right. It's all that looks be in front, but there's a lot of work. It's to accompany

people complexed, I know what, to accompany people, and to them and to be very that that that's for that

I continue this work that. It's for that I continue this work. At first, it's that's what I

understand of the patent, by the agency MEDESport, in exchange to document their processus, So their voyage, their chirogy, the gyrism.

And then, at their turn, finally, they'd have been these agents of liaisone, we could say even, the recruiters in this sense where they've been recruited these future clients. They're going to make a cut on their chirogy,

and they're also they're also they're going to come back into their voyage medical. It's an model that can be replique by example if it

had had been a lot of success, because she had rendered, the Chantaldeny, it was rendered directress of the filiar

And then, she, she had these agents of liaisons that had recruited. And who's see, perhaps if it had had been an enormous success, these agents of liaison would have, they'd have, they'd have, they'd even recruited other agents of liaison.

There are several agents of liaisons who have dropped out of the project, which Mary Maxim and Natasha and Valeri. All these women have come from, they're still in common,

it's to say, she seems to come to the same class socio-economic, are not necessarily rich. It's these families who have the talent to create

the link. It's these women who are good for develop these relations parasocial with other women or

other women also it's not just these women that's not just a form of a pyramid which is also consequently

to marketing multinivos so MLM like Z is a model commercial in there is there a vendor

there, we could say these agendas in the case of Medesport who are parrennate of new

agents and to to be in part remunerated in making a commission on the chirogis. There, there's one of the agent of the

liason, which is one of the more popular, I think, more popular, I think, also is one of the more critiqued,

Jessica Dubbe. It's also someone who is an MLM of product cosmetic, and more recently, I've seen

that she had started to do the publicity for Travorium, which is an other business of marketing

of the RESo, this time in the universe of voyages in line. It's someone to

be implanted in the marketing of the website. And it's also the case, by the way, of many, of many of

women of MEDESpoor. I think, notably in Chantaldeny who has a paste in the marketing

of the network also. All that me don't know the idea of a deep dive a little more profound

in Medespor, the agency, the agency, the model Medespor it's appue about the language there's a

country in Tunisia who speak the French, so they will try to recruit these clients in Quebec, but also

in France. It's seem that the videos also that are available on their site web, we

would say especially the French and I asked, why all of a coup, we just turn to

the Quebec to make this kind of marketing of a network, and this is an audits

in our Patryon Aglai Villegas which me made remarked that the

France, in fact, it's one of the who's legifery for responsibes the influencers and since June 2003, there's

a law that interdied any promotion of act to visy estatesic, including the chururgy, so pen of

two end of imprisonment, or an amend really salé, so it's really liegferry there but before, but

there's a impression that this espage marketing to the Quebec, it's operated

in function of these laws that are appeared. And, and the famous Doctor

Gamm, on Jessica Dubet talks often in fact I'm going to I'm going to see the page

Instagram I'm thinking about Dr. Miami I've been to do you know Dr. Miami? It was not

like a tele-reality of BBL I think when I had said that the doctor gam

is someone of very young he has even more more young than me in reality

and he has looked to have like join the clinic around the year there's

only a only a only a of the art generated by intelligence artificial. Many of photos of sculpture Greek or Roman. So it seems to be a motif to his own, and then,

he's on trying to train. There's kind of a personality where he's made a lot of the avant, so, yes, maybe, someone who can become not just a chirurgeon, but a personality

of the chirurgy. I've pursued my research web, and there I had already consulted the site web of Medesport, so Medesport. But, in fact,

I was made count that there had a confusion because there are two sites web on Medespoor. There are Medespoor tinesi.f a site completely mal-fait,

buttang it is dated in the 2005. It's a clinic Medespoor. There are the same accreditations that on the

site of Medespor. comccea, which I readed on the site that actually optoyed these accreditations that and

Medespor seemed not to be registered. But is a society It's a lot, so, so it's a... It's a organism non-governmental,

active everywhere in the world and affiliated to the organization of Normance Campos. He's the same to make a crore that's not really.

So, that's all right. So, Medesport, cere, Tunisia, we're really of a clinic. On the site of Medesport.

com, it's more question of an agency of tourism medical. So, like, it's two things separate

that's also to addressed also to two public different, which is really totally different, but on the

two sites, we refer at the same address. And there, by rapport to this address we can have just a view

Google, and I'm going to go ahead and it's like really drastically it's so five-etual or zero

etoels, which I'm appare like a drapeau a ruse, a part of the

really those are some perhaps these false avies. On the site that it's addressed

to canadian that that's really very much of promotion for the Quebec, well,

there really a work of localization that has The fact, the localization in traduction, it's all the processus of adaptation of the site web and of its content for a market specific.

So, we seeble really the Quebecois. There are enormously of articles, so it's an article, but it's more like to beaette blog who have been written by ChatGPT. In fact, all the site

web in entire has been written by ChatGPT. So the last that I've been consulted called Liposuction at Three Rivers or in Tunis. How to choose the best destination for

your silhouette? It's so so random. Is it would you want to do you want to do you want to be used by

someone who's called Fanette Motte? It's not someone who got googoled his name, there's not

kind of of profil journalistic. You've got a phoneette Motte. One other thing I

remarked also in all the papras that's the information the billets, the articles, there really

a gross preponderance of the aval. There's like one of the titles an article that's

called why the churgy aesthetic on Canada is it so popular. And one of

their response is that the surgery aesthetic in New York specifically at Morale

and at Lava is a more popular in reason of the necessity of the

appearance and to create a look more attriant physically on a

plionasm that's what the difference between amelioring your appearance

and create a look plus attract and why particularly Morale and Lava

I was not Yeah, I think it's a chord in the image of the arrival of these in the two minutes. Now, what I'm interested also, it was particularly the corps professional, so the medicines that were mentioned, all that. Some of the fact, it's not clear, like on the site of Medespoor.com.ca, we don't know of three chirurgy, you know, but after that, when you continue to click, you, you have other lists of chirurgy, who are not necessarily the same, so you're like,

you're like, boy, it's who, finally, Medespoor. There, there was a doctor who called Samy Mezzoud, and there were a site personal, the doctor, and it was all written in comic sans-MS. And it said,

on his site internet, on his page web personal, the doctor Mezoud is qualified for exercise to the council of the order of the

medicine. It's, without contest, the mayor chirurgy aesthetic in Tunisia. You can't do you can't

do affirmation like in the video, it's just weird. I've seen, by example, Dr. Ben Salar-Ramie, who is kind of often mentioned, who is quite saying, in

according to Medesport, an expert in chirurgy, my mare, and in remodelage of the core, in doing these research, I've been pretty discovered that, yes, he has studied in surgery plastic, he made more precisely, his expertise, it's in the treatment of diabetic, and in the utilization of

cellulose in medicine regenerative. So, for me, it has been really rapport with the surgery, mammar, and the remodelage of the core. He is really expert in an amputation of the peregrine. Well,

yeah, it's the speciality of the agrebe and diabetes. Really? Yeah, yeah, because of the tea

that's secret all of these diabetics. All these these information there, and I'd could have

been to find another, it's kind of it's kind of that in, they're going to be able to get up

operas, he won't be a little literacy, and so it is like doubly stigmatizing

if they're something if their intervention veer of over the because not only

there there's already a stigma on the fact of the fact of having recourse to have recourse aesthetic, but the idea of it's been made in a matter

in a matter of the same, it's a there's probably more of the people who could have because the

people are to talk about, it's not necessarily may of hope, but it's the discourse that when I was

when I was looking at when I'm looking at what we're doing in the MLM. So it's

always access on a link that is intimate, but in particular for the surgery, we said that the mission of Jessica Dube, by example, is to redone confidence to women, to them, to be accompanied also in a transformation

personal, you know, that we transform the core, but that it becomes, in these words, a transformation that is also spiritual. And there's a form of, you know, yeah, of community that is created, or who who is, who is made of the avant, a form of serority, even. And it's always the idea of the being-ne-a-being, who is also resaceed, as much by the body than the

spirit. It's a subject that I'm often covered, because in the middle esthetic when I'm

making my book made, it's also a vocabler that's employed, you think,

to James Charles, the influencer of makeupage who said all the time, hey, sister,

who called these followers of sisters, who had parted a mark of vintment I think

that's called, hey sister something that, it remount at bien before the

influencers, like I in my book, the imaginer of the family was exploited even in the 1800. So,

fin, 1800, there was, like, by example, a Madame Yel who had had to

their clients as her, and she said that she had to be invested of a mission sacred,

which was not the money, but to partage, and then, I'm in these

seurs of Miserer, the product that she had invented, while she had apparently had apparently

had apparently had a period in her life where her poe was really terned, these shoes were creuse, that person was able to

remedi to the situation. So, brief, she, she had found the remand miracle, and she would

respond the good news, evangelized, a little. And in these brochure, she distributed this madame

that, she demanded also to her people, she'd give me the testimony to be

confiiiii to see, she created a link parasoscial also. The Vant by correspondence, it was she

did she had, it, it, of the letter intimate. It's already well before the media social, this type of economy that, it comes with the marketing

of the reso, but also the link intimate that can often be created between the women, the women who, historically, had been taken to the core of the business of the

entrepreneurship, etc. Obviously, I read these affairs that I said in my book, Mackey, so, so, sorry for those who and those and those who are

the world of the Vond Direct, it's also very present She's the figures like Tati Westbrook or the grand guru of the beauty. Or the influencers, especially in the videos, they're often saying, like, I've tested all these products. I mean, I bought all the gamut of products Jivanchi or whatever.

So you didn't have to. You're not to have to do. I've got to do it for you, finally. So there's this idea also to redone to the following. You know, I try to do want a product, but in the same time, I'm doing for your well-eatres to you. But I want to re-revenue to that because there are like these racine historic, You know, these people like Madam C.G. Walker,

so, a femme afro-american, who would, say-disn, the first woman self-made millionaire in America. And, she, just, she worked on march of the commerce of detail, it's a lot of, because she was a woman,

because she was white. The distribution traditional in the magazines was very difficult to integrate because this market, there, just, it was reserved to be these mark established, who were simply

directed by these men men, so for these women like Madam C.J. Walker, it had invented a other model of vont, and it's

there that she had set to do port-a-port, and she had developed of techniques of marketing relational, or for example,

the famous party Tupperware, where we will encounter the families of their community, and we go their vans

and we're going of the line, of chair, of presence, so we're there, we're part of our coup of of the products that we love,

of how we use, and not only that, but what happens is that with her model of affairs, she has formed the millions of co-porteuse,

often, of them black like she, and the message also, is that, yes, she was that, but it permitted

also a grand number of women, to access to the independence economic, financial, to make a revenue

of appoint. It's the model of marketing of the resho. And there, what I've read in my book,

I'll read directly, is that there are entrepreneurs women of the 20th century us ensign, so the market of the

cosmetics that were really in plain inclusion, it's been one of the first sector to make

to the technology that were based on the line social, the counsel of amy, the support

mutual, the care. So for me, these madame like Madame C.G. Walker

and all, it's really the precursor of the influencers of today. And it's

normal to see the economy of the influence ressembled to the structure economic of the MLM

and even to prate to so. So for far the link with the marketing the radio and the religion

protestant, I'm especially inspired by Natalia Luca, so an anthropologist French, I've seen had written

a book that's think it think it and in revert in the marketing

relational of multi-nove so it retrace finally the space of this type of structure

economic that in the United, and I'm read a text that I'll put in the notes that's called

multi-level marketing at the cross-road of economy and religion. She said that the vent multi-nove made in the

first-plan as condition of the success economic, the values, the values of confidence in

self, but this idea also to donate these same value that to those who buy

and you have kind of development personal that is really very present in this type of

marketing that. It has been super present in the Simons Social, the U.S. U.S. U.S. is kind of the religion protestant. It's had particularly, enormously, enormously,

of success in the movement pan-coteists. And it's also reponded, also, responded, again, by the entremise of the health and of bien-aid, and after that, like, in a universe, maybe more laic, of the movement New Age. Selon-E, we can

not talk of MLM, without about the aspect religious, of the religion, and precisely, the pancoteists. The pontchotism, it It comes of the religion protestant. It's a branch of the religion evangelical. There's a pen one year, I know anything of all this, and I made to read that on it. I wrote an article in the press that's called Christianity

Socialism, Source Internet, I've made an interview with sociologists, of religions, et cetera. So I'm trying to learn there on, and it's sure that I'm not an enormous specialist. But as like Luca has said, it even, the Protestantism also has can't even of the capitalism modern.

And there even the economist Max Weber who hasoci the avonement of the economy

capitalism modern to development or the reform protestant that has used in the 16th century.

And, according Max Weber, finally, the kind of the concept of the relation

personal that we have been part of the reform protestant, it has had had been

consequences imprue on the essence of the spirit of capitalism, who would have its own origin in the

ethics protestant, entre other. Why? Because because for the protestants, there's really a mis in

evidence of the ethics of work that is proper to capitalism. So, we talk often of someone

who needs to the kind culture, punctual, diligent, this idea of lock-in. The salue of the

human, he is never certain, and he pass by his work, and the success that

an individual can encounter, justly, notably in the milieu of affairs or in his work, it's

a sign of the fact that he has been elued by God, so it's the part of

God. It's made from a sort of meritocracy, which is like one of these ideologies

that is kind of quite quite in the system capitalists, or the rich,

finally, they are rich because they merit, because God they're they're recompensed

inso. The rich like that can't not make nothing of all, and we

don't implicitly they consider as dignes of confidence because they had been just face to the religion because the richess is the sign

of the fact that they have the faith and that practice of the good way. There's an other aspect also of the religion protestant which is the predestination.

So it's like we were destined and we have a destiny pre-established by the divine and we have not really of pre-true

it's the destiny. So we can't not know if we can't necessarily elue of God or and it it engender

a form of anguish so we we're trying to distinguish the elues in searching these people,

searching these signs in us by a part of others who will be reassure on the fact that we

are we are we are also the other are also also a sign, so it can be the

experience of God in so when you do you getry the people in the When the

spirit divin you possed and that you make to speak tongue

it's these sign that you're elues that God is

I'm in I'm resumed grosserment but all these kinds of theology

they have evolved and there obviously in the religion protestant there

there there's there normally in the tradition evangelical

and pand there's what we call the theology of

the prosperity which we call also the Prosperity Gospel or Evangelist of the Prosperity, which is a current theological, can't even controversial, in certain benches of Christianism, as I said, in particular, she the Pant Cotis, the Evangelic,

that one thing, that, a faith, a Christian, sincere, an obeisance to precept divin, so, by example, pray, but also do, make these don't to your church,

so the dym, the maintain of an attitude positive, the travel acharned, it will conduir necessarily to salute spiritual, but also to a form of prosperity material, the success

personal. This movement that of theology of prosperity, it's originate of the United in the years 60, and we've critiqued

often because it's like if we transformed the way in an instrument for to become rich. And this

theology that is also extremely painable for those and those who are not rich, because if you think

that, finally, if God is your bar, if you practice, if you're a good practicant, a good croissant, well, you'd be able to a form of prosperity, because your God could not be left in the misery. It can't be disconcerted, justly,

to have these conditions of life extremely difficult. What is, he's where, my salute? So it's like if there had to find something that they help to get to get to their condition,

to them, to elevate, to elevate their life, for sassure that God is always with them. And, often, these people, like she said, Luca, they attend no

nothing of the system economic traditional, so the capitalist traditional, they are a little disillusioned, they're going

suburb quotiently the humanity of this system and they consider sometimes this system that as even a

manifestation of Satan. Their salue can not come from the system economic traditional.

They are excluded, left for this system so they, so they have been something

of another, an alternative, something that they're to feel to feel the presence of God.

He search the bra with which God will be able to and one of these bra that can

be present to the form of an MLM because the MLM bizarrely what it's a present,

sometimes it's an alternative to capitalism as we know, a other form

of capitalism that certain have named the compassion capitalism, so the

kind of capitalism of the And this concept that, it's been decried, notably by Rich DeVos, who is the co-foundator

of one of the most company of marketing at multin-level, which is Amway, in the States of New York. He has explained that in his book in 1993

so, so that's called Compassionate Capitalism, people helping people help themselves. The translation in French, is the capitalism with compassion,

help the people to help them. And in this live there, he will explain that finally the capitalists compatissants,

they, they, they want to do the profits, will attain the richess material,

but they are also convinced that the real profits when the being when the good-

of the community of the planet pass in-prem so it's like

a kind of alternative to capitalism said inhuman. And it's just not an alternative that's

remit in cause the system economic but he repriming that he valid

in he insuffling of the values human of which he would have been renounce

finally. And then it's that it's not a hazard if this form of

capitalism with compassion or MLM is really has fleur in the U. because it

reprance the values of the theology of the prosperity and it's also

in the States United that the protestantist is really like a factor cultural very important.

And it's that that is interesting in the vent multi-niveau is that repose on an ideal

of a realise personal, if I would say, of an enrichment to all

the individuals who will get in the enterprise multi-level marketing, but the MLM

is also an alternative ethical to the economy capitalists that vise the

sole profit. So, So then, we'll say, well, yes, I vise the profit, but what I want also is the prosperity of the other. I want to help the churgy. I want them in their transformation spiritual. I want them to help them in their transformation physical.

I want to contribute to their being-a-earned. So, not only we have realized these raves, but we also take care of the fact that the realization of the raves of those, who are inspired also by God, is all so important than the other. So it's where the capitalism of the compassion, compaticant, let's on, you, , encounter, finally, the theology of the prosperity. It's that, ensemble, we can change,

realize all the dreams that God has placed in us. The MLM is present, so, as a way to attain to the love, the entree, the community, and realize these dreams. But that for say that that I'm interested, because, yes, it's laic,

the discourse of the women of Mendesport and all of all, but in filigrant of these discourse that are present, by example, in Medesport, and at the other enterprise, you know, of style MLM,

there's really this logic of the capitalism of compassion, or we could even say, of the theology, of the prosperity.

I think that we're not that we're not that we see that there a lot of the religions evangelical at

Montreal, but there are also these values cultural, that come to be in certain models economic

that come also of the religion. It's really a subject rich, and I could have been on talking about long time, but I will stop it. If you're interested in to see I plunge there in, I'd like to also embody the kind of neocolonialism that I see apparent, justly,

in this genre of type of marketing of resos, or these women, and I've seen many, they've seen, to vend sort of these condo in the countries more poor, so the Mexico, the Republic of Dominican, etc. Or even, I've

We've seen one, there two two weeks, who vandaled a package for help the people to get to emigree to Mexico.

These values are still still in the person who will be in the version of Patreon. Yeah, it's a

last year, why we're doing this time, why we're going to find a public, it's always interesting. We're even,

we're even, we're going to the entry televisual of Radio Canada. The vibe was more at the fight.

We've been for 15 minutes with Charles Sehr. He said that we We'd ever have to have a good matron. Edithil, the Quebec,

it was a sovereignty, it would have really been a nuclear. And it's the same. The Vime, Maradu, Canada, was really at the vibe of TVA. And it's there that we're going to start with TVA. So, Pierre Campelado,

PDC, of Kim, Kempark, of Videotron, of the group TVA, has made a terminstrile to say that TVA will be much have fared. Well, he says,

well, he does that, he does the reason with Videotron, who pay for the deficit, but... Like, a ado, By a part. Because it's not like that that's function.

If a guy has two dependeer on two coins of rub, and one of the other in fact, he will farm he will farm that's the money.

Yes, because one day or the other he will have some problems, we can't have a divitam eternal,

but effectively an activity that's up every year, every year, every year, every year, and the

per year, it's, it's not exist not, that. It's the core of the culture, I think that,

I think the marriage quite, because during his interview with Mario, DiM, on

Micro-marched not. So, I'd have been to announce that they're in a studio

that's fonder. I remark there's a problem technical with Quebecor TVA because they've

done they're in their new new installations in an ancient bureau of Montreal, they've

due to depart to their Retour TVA, it's sure there's there's a problem

that, I think, it's really in this panier that TVA will make all these

long long time, the coup of production are really less bad and the content is perfect

for generate the engagement in 2025 that you make Matthew Bocote, Rennie Wilmour, and Sean Martino is offing of Roshes, in trying to say these affairs

shock-ante or controversial, and it's generated a view on TikTok with a bad-co-production. I think that will have advanced, the show of Loprod will be,

will be able to start in the career of SN for coming, and maybe TV a day, I'm impression. In the message of PECOP,

there's still the system of redevance of abodement of CRTC is vue to disappear, and if they're not coming to

planched on a new model, it will continue at Sampiris. For the people who know not, it's when you bring an abonement on cable, there's a forfeit of base,

these chains, they receive these redovance with the number of the number of people. There are also the chains specialised, so the chain that you will have

come to get how many of the abonements, they're going to make a redevance based by the number of the number. So if 500,000 people abode

on Canalee, a big part of their budget, it will be the money that will be the money from the teledivision is like largely

funded on these redevence of that, plus the revenue publicstaire, and, of course, the financement public and the credit of the impo. It's for that, there's an

amount of chain specialised in Quebec. It's a way to generate and create a potentiality of revenue. And like,

for example, Videotron, which appellate to make a package, TV, for help to get a

getting a abodement to their chain specialised. So it's like an space of

a circle where one of the one of the television, is to have a channel that has to the abonements. So, TVA will create

several channels of TV, where is they're going to be able to everyone who brings in Vodotron, by example, ideally, and with that, they will be able to have some relevance, but what's what happens, is that, the number of mobile is diminished, so we don't know, there's no longer, it descends, it's

a point clear, a day, there will be no longer than abode on, so it. So, it's made up sullenable, and that TVA and BELs, so forth chain specialised, Historia, RDS, Canal Vee, me, and company, me, all these chains, that, like, functioned well in the years of 2010, it's there that they've been created,

because they wanted a new way to find out of the way, but there, because the model is sooth, then it's so that we're in front of so that we'll, like, potentially per day of jobs, or plenty of chains who are diffusely to slop? Yeah, well, at when, the channel TVA, who did do AI Slop,

I'm glad to watch. It's already a slop, by the way. It's not obliged to be AI for end up. This model is clearly in revoir, and each rentry, it's good to let's one of the other aspect that I

want to cover is the adotation to new real reality mediatics. Of one, we've said that I've said a bit of the

pastime, it's like official, all the chain and information and the news on the internet, that it's

some content that's produced for the web or that's it's a company that repurpus for the web

like, like, for example LCN, they're made these extracts telejournal

on their on their show, but they're not going to show, they're not they're not

or that they'll do they'll do it. The press has launched a division of production of TikTok.

In the phone what's the thing is they're just engaged all the team of new info. There's even

to dovour that's more more of Radio Canada also announced that they're going to make the emissions

of information on T.V., but not the mordu it's not actually, we want to what we want,

it's RDI on live on YouTube. There's no reason. I don't know why Radio Canada

I understand Vanda the pub at the TV, but he should have a live stream of RDI in all

time on they'll do sometimes but I don't don't know it's quite it's like it's like

you can make the pub also there's yeah but you can't have to have to do you play the pub and

you play at the TV and sell to it's on internet to your whatever but I'm

don't know why RDA is not on live on live on YouTube and we want the

Mordi on just the clip I'm remark something something that we're

in 2025 and it's like it's just now that's that's It's really, their

lack of knowledge of technical or their lack of their lack of a lot of money,

I'm in 40% of the song that's just in mono in an computer. It's not that will be

not say that you have the quality, and I'm trying to try to have looked authentic, but it's not

because the journalist that you have engaged, there's a Android, you know, who you film

with the Android. I'm, it's a video, sort of the press, something,

or you don't even you know, you know, the person that's not a micro, A micro cravats, it's like a mod-de-fuck.

It's like, they're going to have their telephone, and you've got to let's have, they're going to have, but you've got to have attention, because the little mic, the little DJ, they're, they're just in mono soon, you've got to them, but the people they'll forget it to do it, but it's not just on the press. I've heard a video of NBC

News, and the video, it's just in one because, I, I just, I'm just, I'm just, one, so I don't have two, and there's there, and there's a lot of people who make video on TikTok, and in oblivion to play the thing it's

that's going to certainly mounted with a cast of the course, she's not really realized that it just in one.

It's like the mere benefit of the doubt that I can't do it. Oh, if it's been on CapCote with the spekew

in a cell, and there you can't not know that you can't be able to the TV, but it's

necessarily at a lot to want to want to want to want to do the quality technique of

a piece of a piece of this is definitely it's definitely its porte algorithmic, that's

it's real. Also, Daphne who made that RAD now, there was a new type of employee,

it's the function commentator and interviewer. I know that quite interesting because I wonder if they're going to be able to

their take. I'll try to understand. The people of RAD who go to Khafe-Snick in this moment,

it's what a commentator? Don't know some information. Don't know of the information. Why do you there's a

comment? Well, in fact, I think it's a way to install like an different are some of these people who are qualified

of journalists, and other are maybe not even there. I think it's some people who are not people who are in rad for

to do the animation, to do you, but they're not journalists and they're not subjected to journalistic of Radio Canada. And there's it

about on Radio Canada, that's it was my second, that's my secue, let's say that in an article Guido Dumas he did just

this space to turn the party of rentry. There he He talked to party of entry to the information of Radio Canada.

And there he talked with the directorist of the information who commanded the fact that two journalists of Radio Canada

have quited in a coup of clas the prenton last year, a coup of many years by the same media

and I think that it was a racy interesting, well packaged and accrocheer. It benefited the restantiment public

on the media and they're them even who have capitalized there on it on the making

it was not very dangerous on their authority or their power. We have two persons who have quited in doing

that's doing long as the media have made it before a real revolution

in the world in the world of there's there's discussion on the future of the future

on the Quebec. It was like in a ver of a verde it's completely

just just I think not manufactured by the people by the people who like Alexander

that's really that's a moment that's a subject and at the time you when you look the project

you say A false novel A faux moment mediatic, in fact, because we'd have nothing really in the mail. We had just

some people who'd say, who'd be in radio Canada at cause of the carcans radio can't, but that's what? But from, and it's what really

the difference between the news of three minutes of the press? Or to, it's not really, there's not really, but the press

has not the law to be on meta, so it's the only difference. They've come to do this, the actualities last month in three

minutes, literally the same format than there's There's no difference in the content. You could even let me make one on the other.

It would be able to the same the station of the directress of the info of Radio Canada said in the car carcans

that's people that are playing. It's just of the rigueue and Radio Canada we're not not so our journalists

are rigorous. I think that's really to pray the affair who are not all the time but it's

correct. I'm limited I prefer when it's not too regularer unenett honestly.

Some I the impression that the rigor at Radu Canada is limit just to say that the 7 October was terrible

and to dofussie the Wren of Gilbert Rosen at the TV. And we've already said, but it's really dumbage that all this convo on the future of the journalist and it's arraught to interview Mark Carney and eat a banana during my report. But Patrice Roy,

we'll not. It's really that, like, the limitation. It's like, Radio Canada. It's really incredible. It's the most of the world. But, I'm doing something

of what different. We've never talked on the front, on the journalist in which direction he does have to have a journalist that's more transparent, who is in lineed directly

on these values that are clear and emised at the beginning at a moment of a position of a neutrality that's not

because as I'm pointed to go to listen the case of the case of the case of course I've covered

the campaign electoral federal Radio Canada was for the party liberal Yeah, but I'm I'm not

that in a posture conservativeist I just it's the reality he's to stop

to be to be sure they're they're they're they're they're they're

they're they're on medium, Chantal Ebert, Michelle C.O.G. These people that who do the analysis political at Raduclada, it's the people who are for the party liberal. We could quantify, literally,

in an analysis of Maitrice, literally their presence of parole, and we'll have, like, we'll arrive at this result that. It's the posture of neutrality, but what is interesting, is that we call often of journalism objective and neutral, as an art that exists from the debut of the time,

while that it's very modern. It's appeared because the The debut, before the TV, when the journals, when the journals, it had always been, the organes of press, very, very partisan, in fact. Often, it was it were these parties political who parted a journal, and it's been the case, notably, in, the first journals, here, it's the, it's, it's, it's, the party political that were, and it's only at the moment where we've tried to generate more of money, so to

vend these spaces publicistair, to vend the publicities that this imperative that of neutrality

is apparue because there we want to want to be able to a big number. In the front, it's a

fact that we have adopted this idea of a idea of because it's true, honestly,

that Radio Canada is a coache on matter of Coney Intelligence in Quebec, like if you

comport, but the market is totally limited. It's sure that

Diffuse, the mayor of reportage, I adore the facture, I adore Enquette, it's the productions that are very cheered, I'm, I'm, I'm sure. But it's not

like if we're getting covered at every week? No, but the facture, and the epitire, I get, the clip that

YouTube, and the enquite I get, but they're, they're doing it's on YouTube for YouTube before, like,

eight times, they've made their affairs on YouTube. I think this return will be interesting, there, there's

the election municipal, the Commission Gallant, a new season DoD. We're going to say a special

OD when the session will be entombed but it's my impressions it's still a return mediatic so cover of the crisis

media, the crisis of media there's nothing to change. Let me know what you're going to do you know what we'll be a

question, but I don't know a new show that will capture the hypegeist I don't know the K-pop Demon Hunter

in the in the grue around of our diffusors but who is I want to I want to I want to

a phenomenon viral issue of a production cultural Quebecoise. I guess we're empathis.

I think that's the plus that we can't have. Yeah, but the young are not in the

people who are not in empathy. Thank you very much Daphne. Yeah, but I

have a recommendation cultural to have that. I've discovered an artist that

I know not new, it's called Cedric Dynne, La Vois. It's a project that

date of 2021, I'll make in the notes. In fact, it's like a

composer Quebe who married the folklore, so, There's music, really, you, that's, you know, that's recaltered

a lot of the music, so, the old songs traditional, and he has made a adbiage musical, ambiant, introspective,

almost, you know, that makes to think to the music that I listen, I'm a little little lugubre, there's like

the image of the phantone, I think, when we're really like, we're going to make an extraet.

When it's a man, I'm going to get to a tomb, and I'm going to And I'm sorry to have you ever, my friend, my father, my father, my father, my father, my father,

my father, my son, you know, sir, d'a-bye. And so, I recommend, this album musical. I really appreciated. So the link in the description of the episode. The link also for our

Patreon in the description of the episode and you're not to be able to if you're to say to say that's to say that

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