café snake - Carneyval de Pustules

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

On médite sur le contenu « pétage de boutons géants » et on couvre la politique fédérale, notamment la victoire de Mark Carney à la course à la chefferie du parti libéral du Canada. On rev...ient sur la saga de la pizza, Anora et ses oscars, les memes de JD Vance chubbifié. + recommandation culturelle NOTRE PATREON: patreon.com/cafesnakeMusique Digi mix:Pop out at 1 in the morning tiktok trendDoechii - Anxiety See Tinh (Cukak Remix)ABBATIELLO ETC.Vidéo de Mounir: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjr9plQzbNYPost Facebook de À gauche : https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19AMxhbUKM/ ANORAAnora's American Dream, Rayne Fisher-QuannInternet Princess, https://internetprincess.substack.com/p/anoras-american-dreamCruel Optimism, Lauren Berlanthttps://www.dukeupress.edu/cruel-optimism CHUBBIFICATION DE JD VANCENotes on a Meme: The Grotesque Pleasure of Bloated JD Vance Pictures, Matthew Gault, Gizmodo, https://gizmodo.com/notes-on-a-meme-the-grotesque-pleasure-of-bloated-jd-vance-pictures-2000572683My Feed Has Been Taken Over By Rare Vances, Ryan Broderick, Gargabe Dayhttps://www.garbageday.email/p/democrats-can-t-flashmob-their-way-out-of-this-one --- MÉDITATION SUR LES PUSTULESThe Cyst That Keeps Staring Back!, Dr Pimple Popper TLC, YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwBnjVEue1MHow Does ‘Big Reveal Content’ Shape Our Families Histories?Kathryn Jezer-Morton, The Cut, https://www.thecut.com/article/brooding-big-reveal-social-media-content-gender-reveals.htmlDr. Pimple Popper Knows You Can’t Look Away, New York Times, https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/04/well/dr-pimple-popper-profile-sandra-lee.htmlInside Candace Owens plans to dominate women's media, Taylor Lorenz, User Mag,https://www.usermag.co/p/candace-owens-new-media-company-club-candace-daily-wire-independent CARNEYVALBrendon Mikan: https://www.tiktok.com/@brendanmikan/video/7479972926935010615Patrick Bet David vs Poilievre: https://x.com/PBDsPodcast/status/1897761616831107543RECOMMANDATIONS CULTURELLESSeeing Like a Simulation, Celine Nguyen, LA Review of Books,https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/seeing-like-a-simulation/Grand Theft Hamlet, streaming sur Mubihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OloHiBOMPm8

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Starting point is 00:00:31 Welcome to a new episode of Cafe Snakes, today Cafe Snakes number 23. No, 33. Today we have an episode that is available everywhere, just to remind you that one episode out of two of Cafe Snakes is available only on Patreon, patreon.com.fr Don't forget to subscribe, support an independent Asian company, and put 5 stars everywhere on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Thank you, I'm so excited, you're going to talk to us today? In the end, that's what happens when I do commercial plugs.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Today I'm going to talk about Mark Carney, but as he's become almost a ritual at CaféSneak every three months, to take a look at the political scene, whether federal or provincial, and as we are potentially at Café Snake every 3 months, to do a political scene, be it federal or provincial, and since we're potentially at the end of the federal election, we're going to do a tour of things that I've noticed that interest me in federal politics. You, Daphne? I've called my segment Meditation on the Pistols.
Starting point is 00:01:16 I'm going to meditate on a form of content that I've seen a lot on my TikTok channel recently, which is button extraction, especially gigabutton. So without further ado, the DG News! Tididou! A few months ago, I dated a Habibi.
Starting point is 00:01:31 The night we pop out at one in the morning You really wanna know this guy A Muslim guy who convinced me to do the Ramadan. There on the camping, be careful, there's a green park. He came up to me and said, show me your face, I'm going'll give you a bottle of wine. Now, be careful, he went that way. I don't know which way he went, but be careful.
Starting point is 00:02:01 I'm having a bad feeling in front of a pyramid. You look around and there's no pyramid around. I don't have an old pyramid. It doesn't move. But it won't save me either. He's showing no sign of actually wanting to come down at all. We know that he has been taking videos. We know that his feet have been bleeding.
Starting point is 00:02:21 We presume he's climbed up there in bare foot without any shoes on. He has throughout the afternoon been periodically resting his head on the stone that the flag is tied to and he has been having a few snacks. We think they were through the afternoon. I'm so cute. The moment I meet you, I know I'm so cute. Ting ting ting tang tang ting. Ting ting ting tang tang tang. A few months ago, I dated a Habibi. So we're going to do a quick
Starting point is 00:02:55 comeback on the Abatiello saga. Pizzagate. Pizzagate. By the way, we wanted to give a shout out to our subscriber Anne-Julie who said in her In & Out 2025 that something was going to happen with the Abatiel. Well, that's it. I left my YouTube channel to produce a commentary video on this saga because I found it too interesting. And the opportunity to talk about a lot of things like the intervention of the state in culture, the production of content as a marketing strategy.
Starting point is 00:03:22 So it was like there were just too many things that were in the right format for YouTube. If you haven't seen it yet, you can go and watch it on my YouTube channel. I still found some interesting things that came out of what I didn't necessarily address in the video. Especially the definition of what we see as Quebec culture. Cléa Bâtienne-Lautre sees investing in podcasts as Quebec culture. The Ministry of Culture sees it as our writers who shine in Europe.
Starting point is 00:03:47 This is the Quebec culture. And that's what we were talking about afterwards, about everyone who has their own definition of Quebec culture. I think there's a factual error in the video. I said that the Abatelots were the biggest advertisers in the Quebec podcast market. It's not true.
Starting point is 00:04:00 It's Heros & Companys. Okay, seriously? That's what I was told. There's no figure, it's not open source, but I think it makes sense. That's it, we talked about it, and it's a long story. But it made me think of a Facebook post I sent you this week that made a review of the parents of Alexandre Bissonette who went to Tout le monde en parle. I think they wrote a book.
Starting point is 00:04:21 The father wrote a book. I didn't watch the Tout le monde en parles, but I heard about it by picking it up. And I think that after that, I shared a post that was written by a page called A Gauche. It pointed out something important. That is to say that in the media, we can talk a lot about a subject in long and broad, without ever pointing out the main issue. And the main issue is that hot potato. And in that case, I think it's... We don't necessarily agree on what culture is.
Starting point is 00:04:49 But anyway, I'll just quickly go back to the Agauche segment, the Facebook page. So I'm going to read an excerpt quickly. I got the interview of the parents of Alexandre Bissonette, the white supremacist terrorist from Quebec, who killed six Muslims in a mosque in 2017. I would have liked to be asked how their son plunged into Islamophobia, that we question the Quebeck society, which still speaks of Muslims as a danger. I would have liked to be told about the prevention
Starting point is 00:05:14 of radicalization linked to white supremacy. But you know what? Not a single word. They even said that it could have been other victims, not necessarily Muslims. And there you go. We spend several minutes talking about what he experienced as harassment at school, but not a single minute trying to understand where this Islamophobic and racist Indian came from. And there he speaks, he speaks, he speaks, he writes. And to finish, the parents have the right to write their book, to cry for their son and even to try to excuse him by saying that it was not a trap. These are parents, we do not want to judge them. But those who invite them, those who offer them this media coverage without trying to dig
Starting point is 00:05:48 the only question that has to be asked, and add to that that all this promo starts on the first day of Ramadan, it's really disgusting. The first day of Ramadan, it was horrible. But me too, I found it... because if he fell into Islamophobia, it's because when he was young,
Starting point is 00:06:04 he was introduced, it's sure that he was young, he was introduced as a... It's for sure that he was introduced in a context where it was normal. To get to this level of hatred... Isn't that what we should be addressing as a Quebecois culture? For me, the Abatelo case reproduced this pattern a little bit because I had the impression that yes, it's a debate on culture financing in Quebec, but it's never said that what's at the heart of this debate is the very notion of culture. So what is culture for the Abatello? What is culture for people in Radio-Canada, for Louis Morissette, for Guillape or even for poets like me, let's say. It's not necessarily something that makes consensus,
Starting point is 00:06:38 and I think that at that moment, culture can be instrumentalized by several voices, several parties, who will climb the curtain for different reasons than me. For example, if I had to climb the curtain, it would be for another reason. Yes, and that's what we're talking about, this definition of the culture. For, let's say, Eric Duhaime, who generated a lot of engagement last week, for him and his fans, the Quebecois culture is the abatis themselves, it's the entrepreneur, it's a cultural figure, it's a figure that represents pride and identity for them. It's a very elastic notion, precisely because it's the Aka that is in power. Culture can become a non-nationalizing tool, and for them, culture can be the feast of the St. John. They come to inject millions of dollars in extra for the feast of the St.an party, and meanwhile, the artists, writers, poets die of hunger. So that's my view of culture. It's probably very different from the one presented by
Starting point is 00:07:32 Mauricette or even by Galopage, who is ultimately a great defender of a cause, but a cause that is not necessarily defined. And it's not people, I say that because obviously I don't follow them on Instagram, but I don't feel like they're people who often speak up to defend It's not people, I say that because I don't follow them on Instagram, but I don't think they're people who often speak up to defend political ideas. So all of a sudden, whoops, they speak up. For me, the way some people speak up doesn't go in the same direction as if I were speaking up. I see, as you said in your video, people who are at the heart of a kind of cultural
Starting point is 00:08:03 status quo, speak up kind of cultural status quo, take the floor to reaffirm this status quo. Keeping a cultural status quo on television, it's always the same people we see. That's what we were saying in one of the episodes. No, but that's what we've been saying for a long time. It's not even my first video on the crisis, but it goes back to 2019. There's the page versus the internet. Yes, let's finance culture, but what is culture? You talk about it in the video. Culture can also be digital video. Culture can also be digital culture. It can also be some content creators. I had the impression that in all this
Starting point is 00:08:30 story, there is also the idea of... you know, even the CAC, culture for them, it's the French language, it's... The laity. The laity. You know, there is so much value that we attach to culture and we define it all the time, very differently, depending on who we are. And I think there are definitions that exclude a lot. If your vision of Quebec culture is necessarily a Francophone culture, you exclude all the people who speak, who live, who write or who create in another language in Quebec. It's a tough call. No, but I say that because I've been in a lot of contact with the Anglophone community in my life.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I just gave a writing workshop to young anglophones. I would like to be considered one of them. I consider them. In terms of language, one thing we can agree on is that Quebecois culture is Francophone. Ok, but I gave you another example. When Quebeckers like Eric Duhaime claim to be culturally Christian. So for him, the Christian religion, even if we're in a secular society, is part of the culture. He embraces this religion in our culture, while for example, the Muslim religion, he's not going to include it. Yeah, but I don't expect him to include it.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Why not? Because precisely, the priests, the imams, didn't knock on the doors in the 17th century to convince women to have children. Yes, but culture is something that is new, it's something that is in flux. I keep seeing people's TikToks, I don't know where in Quebec, that sell fucking chocolate tablets from Dubai. It's part of a a show, what I wanted to say about it. It's that culture here in Quebec plays a very important role, and very different from culture elsewhere. It has an identity role. And that's what's nerve-racking, that's what's at the heart.
Starting point is 00:10:15 You make it go, oh, don't touch culture, it's because you touch our identity. But you know why Daphne? No, why? Because we're not a country. You know why Daphne? Because we're not a country. Anyway, let's switch. We're done talking about the two of them. We're like on 4.
Starting point is 00:10:32 I mean, we were looking at each other and we were like, here, it's been a month. Anyway. We wanted to go back to Anura, the movie that won Best Picture at Oscar. We watched it a couple of months ago. I remember that it won the gold medal and I saw a lot of discussions on Anura, on Twitter and on Reddit. But I'm still surprised that the film has won so many Oscars. It's still a sweep.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Nian, I think it's the distributor or even the production board that did it. It's not a big studio. It's really like, even when he made his speech for Best Picture, he was like, ah well, support independent cinema. But at the same time, it's relative because we saw how much it cost to make a campaign to win Oscars and it cost almost more money than to make your film. Exactly, but that's it. The company Nihon saw that we had an opportunity to win Best Picture. So it's like a kind of investment.
Starting point is 00:11:19 They may be indebted to this campaign, but after being one of those avant-garde new studios, new distributors that have now won Best Picture among its allies. What I found interesting about the film is that it is ideologically close to a political universe that is fully present on the internet, that is fully chronically online, that is fully discussed on the internet. We talked a little about it in Café Snig, but it's all around the Dime Square scene in New York, the Red Scare podcast, which is a podcast... how do you say it? How do you write Red Scare Podcast? Contrarian. Contrarian, contrarian. One of the easiest ways to see it is just through the musical choices that are made in the film,
Starting point is 00:12:00 like one of the scenes where music plays a bigger role. The music plays the generic of this podcast. One of the actresses who supports Ivy Wogues in the movie went twice to Red Scare. She was invited to their podcast. Yes, she was invited to their podcast and she shares their ideas in the podcast. There were a lot of discussions about what the ideology of Sean Baker is, because he's the director, the editor, the guy who wrote it.
Starting point is 00:12:25 And why did the Oscars make him win? I think it really works with the fact that Trump is president. It's like a thread. But it's like Hollywood has a kind of ressack. Or you know, like in the movie, there are jokes... The anti-woke ressack. Yeah. I think what was good was the atmosphere, the universe.
Starting point is 00:12:42 It wasn't necessarily the movie, the life, the most emotion. But it's just that the director it was the atmosphere, it was the universe. It wasn't necessarily the film, the most emotional experience. But it's just that the director, with the editing and the dialogues, managed to create a constant aesthetic for an hour and a half. So I think that's why it was so worth it if I analyze it. Because the film is not so good, everyone gives glory to the last scene, which is incredible, it's not so good. Well that's your point, but you didn't tell me that the director is a Zionist. Well if I didn't say that, everyone says that on Twitter because they follow IG models' accounts, IDF babes.
Starting point is 00:13:10 You also follow Lips of TikTok, which we talked about in the previous episode, right? Yeah, I don't think I follow Lips of TikTok, but I follow a lot of... You, yeah. After that, what else can we say about that? Not much. Maybe, I don't know. I read a really good text that I recommend, I'm going to put it in the notes of the Anora show. It's called Anora's American Dream. It was written by the American author Rain Fisher-Kwong, aka Internet Princess. She has a somewhat feminist reading of all that, where she says that it's a film about the kind of novel
Starting point is 00:13:42 or romantic discourse that is served under capitalism. The romance is like a contemporary mythology. And now I can read an excerpt of what it says. It's a story about stories, about the cultural stories that enchant us, that deceive and control us, about the way love, especially heterosexual love, can be propelled by not the attachment to a person, but the attachment to the idea of what a good life is. It's such a good take because in the movie, if there is one really lacking in the story, in the movie you follow the peripetsis of Anura, who is nicknamed Annie in the movie, a dancer who meets a very lucky and very young client who lives in an empty house. An heir.
Starting point is 00:14:25 An heir and she becomes his personal escort. And he proposes her to marry her. He says he wants to marry her to become an American citizen. He doesn't want to go back to Russia. And even when we were listening to the movie, we were wondering what Annie's motivation was to marry him. Because throughout the movie, she has a kind of disgust for him. It's the way of life really. By the way, I'm just going to say that there are two stories, there are two methods of speech.
Starting point is 00:14:51 It's the vision of the myth of the beautiful life that is represented by the heterosexual romance, but on the other hand, the heiress, it's the idea of American citizenship, which is sold as an example of good life. Because he married her for that, which is what we seem to be told. And the idea that Sean Bickle chose Russia, that's also something that's controversial because there is a war between Ukraine and Russia. And Russian culture is really... Is still present in the podcast we were talking about, the Red Scare.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Well yes, because they are Russian immigrant girls. That's why it's called Red Scare. I'll end with Raina Fisher-Kwan. She says that she has the story of a girl so in love with an idea that she lets go of her grip on material reality, as if it was a dream for a moment, until reality re-emphasizes itself, as in most love stories. She talks about a scene, for her the most striking scene. Obviously there are all kinds of criticism, there is so much discourse because it's going to
Starting point is 00:15:46 win an Oscar. The media machine works. She talks about a scene in particular where Anora is walking outside, it's cold and she's with the bodyguards of her heir, her new husband. They finally come to kidnap her, in any case they used a scarf to get in her alley so she could talk. She was really cold and one of the bodyguards said to her, take the scarf. At first she refused because she knew that the scarf was there to... To control her. Yes. And finally she accepted it because she was too cold.
Starting point is 00:16:20 She said, she is freezing and so she eventually accepted this is a familiar situation. It's a familiar situation. Annie, so Annaura, is far from being the first woman to know that the thing that gags you can also be the thing that keeps you warm. And that's kind of it, basically, the idea of this novel. And in any case, I encourage you to go read this text, I really liked it. And she also makes links with a theorist who writes Cruel Optimism or Theorist Lauren Berlant. What is Cruel Optimism? Well, it's when we desire something that actually makes obstacles to our development. For example, if I desire this idea of ​​good life. Finally, Lauren Berlant
Starting point is 00:17:00 describes the Cruel Optimism that has prevailed since the 1980s, while the democratic social promise of the post-war period in the United States and Europe was retracted. People remained attached to unrealizable fantasies, as if we wanted a house, a cat, a dog, and so on, of good life, with promises of rising social mobility, of security, employment, social equality, lasting intimacy, despite the evidence that liberal capitalist societies can no longer offer individuals the opportunity to ensure that their lives add something. I read that directly from Wikipedia, but it's just to summarize
Starting point is 00:17:36 the concept of cruel optimism, so she made links with that and I found that also smart. In the last Did You News, we wanted to show the proliferation of memes on the figure of G-Divens. It was such a universal feeling because in the last episode, I said G-Divens is the chipmunk. It was before the memes were like, there's a chipmunk head in the world, they want to enlarge their cheeks. I saw one that was drawn in Pikachu, but you know, the Pikachu that is a little bit crooked. And I really liked that. I really enjoyed that moment. I even shared it on Blue Sky. Yikes. And I read a comment that said that these memes made him look like a chubby doll who would have spent too much time in the sun.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Someone got on a plane with JD Vance, a Republican top, and tweeted breaking news I can confirm that JD Vance has seen the meme and he thinks they are funny. The idea is that it's a kind of meme that's being taken both by the right and the left. I read a little bit about it, there are people who say, hey be careful because the circulation of the image can sometimes play in the favor of someone, even if we laugh at him in the end, it brings him something. Yeah, and just to say the meme for people who didn't follow, it's taking photos of GD Vance, grow his cheeks, change his hair, it's just always modifying his face a little more. But it's the chubbiness of GD Vance, I would say that he looks a little like a little baby,
Starting point is 00:19:20 a little like the's mugshot. It's a good advertisement, even though the idea is to laugh at him. That's the Drake method. Drake, in the 2010s, was one of his big super-endies. To become a meme. I talked about it a lot in Café Snake. I think I made a whole segment about Drake.
Starting point is 00:19:40 To become a meme, and in the end, people get attached to the meme. Even at the beginning, they just laughed at it. It starts with an ironic commitment, and then all of a meme, and in the end people get attached to memes. Even at the beginning, they were just really laughing at it. It starts with an ironic commitment and then suddenly it turns into a sincere commitment. It's a form of parasocial attachment. I also saw commentators who talked about this profusion of FASLU and Jeezy Vance chubbification by making parallels with PP the Frog. So they say it's a bit the same memetic size in the sense that PP the Frog was a meme, I don't know in what year. In the middle of 2010, even earlier than that.
Starting point is 00:20:12 At first it was just a character in a comic book and then finally it was used, it was mostly 4chan and everything I think. It's mostly on Twitch too and on 4chan. It's still really used on Twitch. So it was remixed infinitely, so there are all kinds of PpDeFug, there are incredible variations. But I didn't know that the ultimate mutation of PpDeFug was a whistle-blower frog, which was the current meme of the Grouper. The Grouper... Grauper? Grouper. Grouper?
Starting point is 00:20:41 Grrr. That's... ExPiX? Grauper? Is that an explicit word? I don't know what the word is from. I think it's from a Hebrew word. I think Grauper is from the Goyim and the Grauper is from Hebrew. The extreme right. It's really the extreme right. It's the neo-Nazis online who are anti-Judaist. Behind that is the unified conspiracy theory. Israel controls the world, the Jews control the world, it's not bad. That's like the foundation, it controls the United States especially.
Starting point is 00:21:11 One of the major figures is... One of the biggest influencers is Nick Fuentes. Nick Fuentes, that's it. And they knew that Gopper, their mascot, was precisely a variation. Some say that it's different from Pepe the Frog, but that it the same species, or it would be a frog rather than a frog. But it's really a kind of Batrassian. I don't know if it's like... it's not necessarily... It's basically the account called Project Graper on Twitter. It's a profile picture if it was Pepe the Frog.
Starting point is 00:21:39 So in 2017, there's even a candidate to represent at Congress, I think it was Shiva Aya Durai, who created, during her campaign, pins, macarons, which represented a memetic variation of Gripper, Pepe de Frag Choubi. And it's a kind of nod, as you say, who often does that, Elon Musk in his tweets, a nod to the people on the far right who are on places like 4chan, gab and twitter. And to make like, hey, we speak the same language in a way. Do you have something to add?
Starting point is 00:22:13 Oh no, it's just that they petrified me, I'm afraid of GDVN. It's a version of the meme that scares me. Ok. Literally spooky, even. So my segment today is meditation on the pistulesules and as I said earlier, I want to meditate on a form of content that I see a lot appearing on my TikTok thread recently, that is to say the extraction of gigapustules. Because yes, I fell like everyone else on the extraction of black dots, but here I'm talking about really big buttons aka
Starting point is 00:22:41 Kists. And more precisely in fact clips of a TV reality that existed in TLC from 2018 to 2023 with the dermatologist Sanjali also known as Dr. Pimple Pupper. at all, but it's been taking control of my life. Stop's a YouTuber at the base, Dr. Sandra Lee. And we follow her when she treats patients who present unusual cases of skin troubles. And it happens in her clinic Skin Physician and Surgeon, which is located in California in the Inland Empire. What I found interesting is that, well, it appears on my phone, but you don't. I have buttons, but I can't say that live, there are buttons on my feed.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Your TikTok feed. Yeah, but there are games, there are sometimes. Sometimes I find vibes that... There's one I checked for way too long, so he showed me several. There's also the guy who reviews pimpo pop, like the dermatologist. Oh yeah, I saw that! And he's like, no gloves, no this, no that. I've seen him since way back, since Kia Tik Tok existed. It's a demographic detail, but when the show was on TLC, it was the most popular show in the demographic,
Starting point is 00:24:20 like women between 25 and 54 years old. It's like... ...me. It's like I'm just having a bad luck. Angéline de Sacramento has a big lipoma under her left breast which has affected her self-esteem for 6 years. Delano de Houston has a huge bump in her back which prevents her from finding a regular job and
Starting point is 00:24:45 has made him homeless on certain occasions. Carla from Mississippi wishes that her pillar breasts be removed from her scalp. Brenda from Los Angeles has a bump the size of a golf ball on her forehead that prevents her from having a social life and progressing in her career. So that's a bit like the narrative scheme of the show. Six years under the belt, that's crazy. Well, let's talk about it. It makes me want to watch the show. I think it's similar to a kind of freak show.
Starting point is 00:25:16 A subject we already talked about in Café Snez, but a medical freak show, or bodies that are considered out of the ordinary. We could even say, since I'm taking up a subject that we talked about in the last episode, so really, I put it in quotes, but monstrous, are exposed to the anonymous gaze of the seer, so the seer is me, and whose show will bring about all kinds of cathartic emotions, including the one of relief, because in front of the monster, the body of relief, because in front of the monster, again in quotes, but in front of normality, let's say, we compare and we
Starting point is 00:25:49 find ourselves normal. Ultimately, we are reassured. And Luiz, things get complicated because obviously we are in the United States and we know that their health system does not allow everyone to have access to care. In short, often the operations that Sandro Ali will do, precisely, they are not large operations, they are not big surgeries, they're small surgeries under local anesthesia. And it lasts a few minutes. These surgeries will change lives. And that's what's at the heart of the service, it's the monetary question. It's the fact that for 6 years, you've had a fucking golf ball in your forehead that
Starting point is 00:26:21 ruined your life, but for 6 years, you couldn remove it. As long as the patient agrees to participate in the show, he can receive free care. That's the trade-off. Your suffering and your kind of abnormality must be exposed to all converted into content. Content that will circulate everywhere on the internet, which is put here by a camera, so that you can finally get rid of your bustle and access a form of normality. Obviously, it's not the explicit text of art and reality, but it's the subtext that is implicit. It's a question of material resources. There is an excerpt from the course of a participant that I will give as an example that we can listen to right now. Every morning, I wake up and I wipe my face with witch hazel. So I try to scrub it off my face. I've never seen a doctor, but I self-diagnosed myself online and I figured out it was a cyst.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I couldn't physically do nothing about it myself, even though I thought about it a lot of times to take it off. She never consulted a doctor. She diagnosed herself on the internet. So not only does she not have money to get surgery done, but she doesn't even have money to get a diagnosis. It's like a kind of nasty big pus on the cheek. Can you push the fart with your hands? No, unfortunately. I wouldn't be able to do that. It's something that needs a scalpel and tools. The idea is that with a cast, it's not just the skin you have to get out, it's the bag.
Starting point is 00:27:49 I learned everything from watching the show. I thought to myself, hey, in a country where there is no access to free health care, where access to these treatments is really compromised, maybe that's what compromise is one day. It's that to have access to care, it will de facto become a keydome in a tele reality. And keydome, I say it because I have friends who came up with this term. It's a kind of running gag between me and Munir because we participated in a study day on the question of the reality TV that was given to Lucam in 2024, like January 2024.
Starting point is 00:28:28 So we were there and the practitioners, it was real, producers and all who spoke of reality TV, they use this terminology. So KIDAM is a reality TV participant and it's to put in opposition with what? Celebrities. Talents. It's still a strong word because what is a quidam? In the definition of antidote, it's an individual whose name you don't know or whose name you want to hide. It's true because at OD, we don't care how you really are. We want to see how we're going to create you, the character we're going to create in the story.
Starting point is 00:29:03 I have the impression that this terminology, if we understand it as a kind of dichotomy between quidam and talent, talent is those who are protected by a union. For example, the UDA is those we want to pay, those we recognize the work with, and quidam is those we don't pay and don't recognize the work with. This term serves to obscure the real work that is performed by everyone, no matter if you've done it on TV or not. It's like if we wanted to make people believe that thanks to shows, as I told you, they were going to find their name.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Because we were finally going to make them appear in the media through a certain character. So we were going to give them a name, a face. We put them in the world. We put them in the world and if they do well, then we can say a talent. Anyway, the rounds. The surgical operation of giant button fart, whether it's from the stomach, the tumour or any other appendix that will deform you.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I found that it was a form of content that the journalist Kit Katrine Jeezer-Morton calls the big reveal content. There are a lot of videos of buttons that I have in my feed. Sorry to interrupt you but it was like someone, a professional who comes to press a button and he pushes, he pushes but no,
Starting point is 00:30:20 it's not the right way to push. So he wants to get a tool, what is he doing differently? He takes off hairs and he starts again. And then finally the video is like a minute and then next part two. Oh my god, fuck you. I wanted to talk about this article that I'm obviously going to put in the notes. It appeared a few days ago in The Cut and it's called How does Big Reveal Content how does big reveal content shape our family stories. So I don't really know how we could translate that. Big reveal content, I propose
Starting point is 00:30:51 moving transformation. Because she made the link, the writer of this text, with gender reveal, for example. But that's a big reveal, right? Yeah, that's it, big reveal. But it's just the literal translation, I don't get it. In the case of the Dr. Pimpop episode of Pimpole, it's like what moved us was that the form or what was distorted
Starting point is 00:31:16 will find its form at the end of the video. That's the kind of reveal. We want to see the woman's face without her compass. We want to see what she looks like when she will be, quote-unquote, normal. But I think we also want to see the more out of the hole, yeah. Obviously! This is a underrevel. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:31:33 There are like several layers, there are several chapters in the story. We know the narrative curve beforehand and it contains several underrevelations. For example... The more out of the hole. Exactly. So the revelation of what hides inside the body. That's the thing with Dr. Sandro Lee, she's always after describing the fart coming out. The texture, the color, the smell... going to be in there. This is a cyst and it's about to blow. All right, let's get this off. Oh, sorry, that was you.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Excuse you. I heard a little boop. I f***ing p*****g it. It pooed it. Look. That does look like oatmeal. It does. It looks like oatmeal with a little bit of red dye.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Yeah, a little strawberry jam in it. Oh my God. That's really gross. And I think we could call it, obviously, we said big reveal, but it's also a form of satisfying content. Because we're talking about a kind of disorder in order, a form of resolution. I'm just going to go back to the article. Obviously, in her article, the journalist is Katrine Jeezer-Morton. She doesn't specifically talk about this kind of video, that is to say the pussies,
Starting point is 00:32:43 but she talks more specifically about the video format,, that is to go to this university, the marriage requests, the big breakups, that's all part of this kind of big reveal content. And according to the journalist, she says that the main attraction of this type of content is never what is revealed, but rather the authentic and human emotion that is attached to it. And there I will quote her. Gender revelations, for example, which are highly criticized, are often criticized because they refute gender binarity, male and female. But she says, I am convinced that most people who organize these shows don't try to control the body of their baby, they just try to create a show. They try to make
Starting point is 00:33:44 sure that something happens. I think they're the ones who create a spectacle. They're trying to make sure that something happens. I think they're the ones doing that on social media, yes, but a large part of the population doesn't post it on social media. No, but we're talking about those who do it. We could say that it almost responds to a real thirst, but especially to emotions that are spontaneous, not filtered, not staged. Whereas, in the end, it's a bit of a paradox or hyperreal, because all the conditions for these emotions to be captured are staged. Often in a gender reveal, there's a set-up, balloons, a cake... It's staged. What's the point of saying that we live in an attention economy,
Starting point is 00:34:19 where having as much attention as possible is also having a form of power. It's something that we're going to reproduce, even we're not Donald Trump for example. It affects our behavior and our daily attitudes even among ordinary people, like the kydams on social media. So that's it. In the light of the fact that we like the content of revelations, great revelations, what did you say? Great unveiling. Great unveiling because it seems to bring us closer to emotions that would be more authentic. It's interesting to read the comments under the TikTok post of this woman I was talking about who has a compass on her cheek.
Starting point is 00:34:55 So she's going to talk about the emotions that make her live her compass. So let's listen to this. bad, but at the end of the day, it's my self-conscious that's bothering me. I'm sorry. I was watching that video on TikTok and in the comments, we were judging her emotions. We were like, she's not authentic. We were saying, she's being a little dramatic. The acting is sending me. So everything happens as if people in the comments were judging her performance as not being authentic enough, because what we want in a big reveal are authentic emotions. Now we're going to listen together to the segment where she's going to get her chest pierced.
Starting point is 00:36:28 There's a cherry blossom, there's a microphone just stuck to the person's skin, I don't know if you heard it. We heard the scalpel. I find it interesting to see someone practicing an opening on the body of someone else. In fact, it's an erotic gesture, but not sexual, I'm talking erotic in the sense where there is a sudden confusion between the outside and the inside. When there is an opening in the body, we have an erotic relationship, we merge. And whether it's the focal point of the camera, a bit like we would see a vagina in a porn movie, we really see the chest, the skin that comes out, the scalp. There is something very pornographic in the case of the image. And the body fluids that gush from the pus, it almost looks like a cum shut. But we're going to go a little further than in porn because we're even going to comment on the appearance and smell of the body fluids.
Starting point is 00:37:20 The doctor will say, it smells like the soot that would have been in a pocket for a couple of years. There is a violence in the description of the smell of his own smell. We want to see it, we see it, we describe it. And there is something disunited in this idea that to have access to health care, you have to... You humiliate yourself, it's the humiliation which will... Your smell becomes spectacular. But you know, and then... But all of this is done in consent. No, but in your case, if you don't have the choice...
Starting point is 00:37:49 You don't have the choice! It's not the lighted up breaks, basically. That's it. Anyway, I just wanted to share, that's it, reflections on this content, because while doing my research, I also realized that Dr. Sandra Lee had launched a new show on another channel that is not TLC. And I asked myself if the abundance of clips from her old show on TikTok
Starting point is 00:38:10 did not come from a deliberate advertising strategy and even concerted to blur her content to announce that something else was coming. I even realized that she had been profiled in the New York Times not later than March 4th. And in the article I read, they describe a little bit her workplace. I know it's not really important, but you know, I found it pretty interesting. So it seems that inside there is a neon sign that says Popaholics Unite. Hey, like you in the background, it's a popaholic. That's it.
Starting point is 00:38:40 What particularly caught my attention is something that Dr. Sandro Lee says during her interview. She says she's so happy that the buttons, the buttons, are apolitical. I really found that interesting because, no, this redemptive restylation, even though we know very well that these are people who are finally defavorized, who are represented. And this idea of putting someone who would be abnormal into history, and then the resolution is that he becomes normal again. Well no, but you know, clearly, even in the extract you put, she said, I don't feel like a human being.
Starting point is 00:39:21 That's it. But you know, monsters to humans, humans also, producers, because they can finally return to the labor market or find a loving partner, have babies. There's this idea of, ok, I can finally live my American dream. And it also makes me think about his comment on the fact that I she was happy that the buttons were apolitical, with a pipeline that American journalist Taylor Lawrence has been investing in for several weeks. That is to say, the fact that there are a lot of political commentators who are becoming more like patineurs. Like for example, Candace Owen, who is going to rebrand herself. Candace Owen right now is like a left a whole media channel that is directly
Starting point is 00:40:07 addressing women. She will cover topics like the scandal around Baldoni and Blake Lively, or she is doing the transvestigation of Brigitte Macron. This is a form of commentary on pop culture, but it also allows her to go and look for a new public. People who, first of all, don't consider themselves right-wing, but who will be attracted by the commentary on pop culture. And through this commentary, which could be perceived as apolitical, well, it will spread a whole political discourse. It's all my Bouddhistopéranie, the one who... Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:40:46 But I also think that it's a way to maybe bypass the shadow ban that's happening right now on content that is explicitly political. So Meta often makes this kind of announcement that it wasn't necessarily going to favor political content. When you're doing a podcast or
Starting point is 00:41:02 a YouTube channel, sometimes you have to put labels to try to categorize your content. And when you're in pop culture, it allows you to avoid being categorized as political content and to be favored by algorithms too. So it's content that is not political, that is excessively political, but that to use pop culture to travel more algorithmically. That's it. So I called my segment Carnival. When you listen to this, I don't know if Mark Carney officially replaced Justin Trudeau, but yesterday, March 9, 2025, he officially became the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada.
Starting point is 00:41:55 And I think that with the elections that should come soon or not soon, it's a good opportunity to make a survival of federal politics. First, I want to say that in the last few months, I said on this podcast that there will be federal elections on April 22nd 2025. And I stick with it, okay? Yeah. I think it's a long shot. Maybe it will be later.
Starting point is 00:42:15 I'm starting to doubt it. But April 22nd, we still on the program. You're speculating? Since day one. I never change, never will. Money bet. So just to do a quick summary for people who didn't really follow, and we even talked about it in a movie, but whatever. In December, Christopher Whelan, who was vice prime minister, left Justin Trudeau's caucus.
Starting point is 00:42:35 It created a shock wave in Ottawa and he took advantage of the timing with the holidays to not resign. But when he came back from vacation after the holidays, he didn't have much choice because all the liberal caucus seemed to be against Justin Trudeau. It was one exit after the other, he really lost everyone's trust. And Trump was and became in his case, at that moment, it crystallized in January. He announced his resignation and he prorogated the parliament until the end of March so that the Liberal Party would find a new leader. Prorogating the parliament is, among other things, that the deputies do not sit in the chamber of the communes, but the government continues to govern. So since January, all the ministers are still in office, they still have executive power, but they can't see anything
Starting point is 00:43:17 happening in a legislative way in Canada. So there, the race to the leadership of the Liberal Party of Canada began. All the insiders, the Ellen Busetti of this world. It was like, it's gonna be Mark Carney, it's gonna be Mark Carney. I had no idea who Mark Carney was. Finally, he presented himself. He was formerly an advisor to Justin Trudeau, who was an economic advisor. But also a director of the Central Bank of Canada and the Central Bank of the United Kingdom. Like a financier.
Starting point is 00:43:43 That's the news. Huge. Chef Epstein. Yes, the financier. With the island. Yes, he had an island that I've never been to. Just to make his CV a little bit more clear. My Coney is someone who went to Harvard. Then he went to Oxford.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Then he worked at Goldman Sachs. He has the least Canadian CV in the world. He doesn't have a U of Ts. He has the least Canadian CV in the world. He doesn't have a U of T diploma, he didn't go to Queens, he didn't go to McGill, he went to Harvard and Oxford. I find that so amazing. And then he worked at Goldman Sachs. He was talking about Americans,
Starting point is 00:44:38 we have to pay the tariffs. Now I have the Liberal Party, for me, Mark Carney is a citizen of 3 countries. I don't think he's the most patriotic guy in the world for Canada. Anyways, Mark Carney is the favorite. From the beginning, he's a more moderate, more fiscally educated and responsible person than Justin Trudeau. Justin Trudeau is the great comedian who is out of the picture. I can't wait to see him start his career as a comedian.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I think the best thing about Justin Trudeau is in front of him. I can't wait to see him on all our TV channels. I want him to write a movie. I want him to make art. Justin Trudeau. What would you like to see him play? In STATS, of course. I knew you were going to say that, even though we don't listen to STATS. Should we listen to STATS?
Starting point is 00:45:23 Answer us in the comments. That's it, he was governor of the Central Bank of Canada. What's interesting is that Sue Harper, it's Stephen Harper who named Mark Carney to the Central Bank of Canada. So there are some conservative allegiances. That's his branding. It's the liberal, but not D.J.N. woke, not Green New Deal.
Starting point is 00:45:43 He worked for the World Economic Forum. He's part of the same cabal as me. I troll everyone. His French is at the level of Stephen Harper, maybe even a little less good. When it's in speech, it's good, but when it's in debate, it's really bad. When you have to freestyle during an interview,
Starting point is 00:46:00 it's really not good. Stephen Harper was Prime Minister when I was very young. I didn't understand English very well at was Prime Minister when I was very young. I didn't really understand English at that time, when I was 11, 12, 13. I always listened to Stephen Harper on Infoman or Radio Canada. I only heard him speak in French. I never understood why he was the Prime Minister of Canada. I was like, no, he's crazy. I found him crazy. I just heard him speak in French. Yeah, but I think that's also when you don't speak your mother tongue, you always seem a little more stupid.
Starting point is 00:46:29 That's it! Unfortunately, it's serious. That's it, but that's when I was older, and I listened to the interviews of Stephen Harper in English, and I was like, ok, actually I understand. I just didn't understand how he became Prime Minister of Canada. Like me, when I was speaking English to the students, I was like, wow, I look like a quack.
Starting point is 00:46:47 What's different with the Conservative Party and the Liberal Party? The path to the victory of the Liberals is necessarily through Quebec. Ok. There are a lot of English-speaking circumscriptions that will be liberal, but... I think it's worth voting as early as possible. Because since there are a lot of people who don't follow the active policy like that, what happened yesterday when he won the race at the cheffery and we describe it as the next prime minister of Canada, that's how we introduced him on stage.
Starting point is 00:47:12 There are a lot of people who didn't understand what happened. Everywhere in the world who think that we didn't hold elections and that we just named a new prime minister. They don't know our democratic system. You have Emmanuel Macron who congratulates him on Twitter. It's like the world doesn't understand what happened. It was outside. And even the world here, like the influencer Brendan Micand who, just after Marc Coyne won the race at the cheffery, made a video on TikTok to say more about the extracts. It looks like we have a new prime minister. Hello. Nice to meet you.
Starting point is 00:47:39 That's it. It's crazy because we didn't vote for him, but he's our new Prime Minister I guess. To share, there was a feeling that it was anti-democratic, that he didn't have the opportunity to vote for Mike Granny. There are people who don't even understand what happened, but they know that in the next days we will have a new Prime Minister. I think that the sooner possible that he starts an election, the better. We have a new Prime Minister who takes decisions, he's not even a deputy. It's not like he was elected to the House of Commons. It's just a doubt that he's working in a global economic forum and he's become a prime minister. Oh, he's never been a deputy?
Starting point is 00:48:11 No, he's never been a deputy, he's never been elected democratically. It looks bad. In a way, he's probably going to lose the elections and it's not going to happen. What he's betting on is that he worked in Big Finance, he worked for Goldman Sachs. Don't you think it's still a bit of a mistake by Democrats in the United States to present a kind of compromise, a liberal character that would have tax-related tendencies on the right or the left? You're talking about Water Down, your kind of pretentious leftist who isn't there. And then, who really wants to vote for you? Their strategy is that Poiliev is the opposite.
Starting point is 00:48:51 They put two opponents in front of each other. They put someone who has been doing politics for 24 years, and someone who has been working in the private sector since he was young. How they want to frame the messaging in the elections that will happen, is that they are not even against Poiliev, they are against Trump. The focus of our elections, they're against Trump. All the focus of our elections is going to be Trump. This is also going to be Americanized.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Like Doug Ford did in Ontario, Doug Ford has been elected with a good majority, just because during all the elections, he removed all the oxygen in all the other parties saying that his enemy was Trump, and constantly increasing the threats he was doing in the United States, to end up removing electricity. And that brings me to my other point,
Starting point is 00:49:26 it's really about how Americans don't know how our political system works. Like Zayn Trusso random, but I'm not talking about who's the average American. I'm talking about the media figure and even the leader of the media figure, the president. Trump mentioned in a tweet, a tweet, last week that his prediction was that Trudeau was going to study the war of tariffs to stay in power. I'm gonna shoot it. It's good to shoot it. Shooting is better than being exiled. When we think about hyper-reality, and by the way, we want to try to do a review of the hyper-normalization,
Starting point is 00:50:01 sorry, the film by Adam Curtis, but it's still, I talked about it in my segment, we want authenticity, we want the real thing, but we're in a time where there's a crisis of reality, of authenticity, and then your social media that you invent is social truth and you're going to truth. It's interesting. It's genie, you can say the word. The social network of Trump. It's in contrast with fake news, lies. We were talking about who has the power. Power is to manipulate language, the meaning, the definition we give to words. That's a good thing. Last week, he said that Justin Trudeau was going to use the war of tariffs to stay in power. It doesn't make any sense. Justin Trudeau resigned a month and a half ago. I don't even know what's going on in Donald Trump's current state in Canada.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Maybe he's playing as if he didn't know. There are even some members of the so-called Pirate Right in Quebec that we already talked about in the Coffee Snake. It's like a current... The Pirate Right? Yeah, it's an ideological current that we could link to the Radio de Québec, to Jeff Fillon, and all the people orbiting around it. There are some people who started to repeat on Twitter that Justin Trudeau was going to hang on to power.
Starting point is 00:51:08 When he resigned, there was a month and a half of a race for the leadership. If there is one thing that is going to be replaced, it's just that I think they will wait a little before it's really Mark Kearney, the Prime Minister, because they will wait for him to be ready to go to the election. Because it's really not... To remove the pro-reaction of the parliament of the parliament, make a speech of the throne. When we open a parliamentary session, we need to make a speech, and we need to vote. But to open a parliamentary session,
Starting point is 00:51:32 we need to make a speech. At the beginning of the session. A parliamentary session is several weeks. How long does it take? Like a session of the siege, 15 weeks. You need to make a speech of the throne, and the speech needs be voted for. The world must vote for confidence.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Like, yes, I love your speech. Yes, I support the government. But normally when you're a major, the people from your party will vote for you, so that happens. But if you're not a major, the opposition parties can vote against you. Then the parliament says this and we go to the election. So it's a vote of confidence. Compared to a speech.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Yeah, but it can be compared to a lot of things, but the democratic moment in a system that is used to represent that is the speech of the throne. Perfect. So, since Mark Carney is not a deputy, he won't even be able to read his speech of the throne. He will be in the streets. Who will read it? Someone who will choose. So it really takes away power, it takes away authority, it takes away the aura.
Starting point is 00:52:28 You just don't seem to have any power in the end. Ok. And it even adds an image of like, it's Mark Carney who controls the world from above. A puppet, pulling strings. Exactly, that's it. By the way, that's how we're going to paint the mythical portrait of the financial. When did this speech happen?
Starting point is 00:52:50 Normally, the parliament is extended until the end. I think it's like the 26th of March. But my theory is that they would start elections before the parliament resumes. But there are rumors that they say that we need to settle the war before the elections, and the NPD... Understand that Munir, all his political analysis is based on his speculative bet. No, no, I gave a real analysis, but I have a share in the price. When will the elections be launched? And then all around... No, but there are a lot of things around the elections for me. Now we're going to turn to the Poiliev Talk.
Starting point is 00:53:23 So Poiliev is launching a new ad campaign at the end of the week. The first word that came to mind, I'll send it to Daphne, is that it's cringe. First, in a fake office, it looks like a set of films. There's a really good camera. We rarely see Poiliev like that. He's sitting in front of an office. I don't know if it's his office. But I find the colors interesting. It's like a kind of filter to post-produce a film.
Starting point is 00:53:46 It's a bit like... This is going to be a really niche example, but when you listen to a series like... Whatever... Even in Quebec there are examples... Tats? No, no, in Quebec, you listen to A Galaxy Near You or you listen to Anna Montana, whatever. And that's the series. And then, at the same time, there's the film.
Starting point is 00:54:02 And then, the quality is superior when the settings are better, the camera is better, the color grading is better. When you listen to a series, they make the film. That's what I felt. I feel like we were talking about authenticity, I'm talking about vulnerability, spontaneity at that moment.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Do you think it would be to go more into a content that looks amateurish? No, you're more like Bardella, Do you think it would be better to go into content that looks amateur? No, no, no. You're more like Bardella. Like, Poiliev, what is he going to do? Well, we film him while he's doing his speech. He's in the store. Camera on the shoulder.
Starting point is 00:54:35 iPhone on the shoulder. iPhone on the shoulder. That's what you're afraid of. Poiliev, do you listen to us? You know, the best example, I said it in the article of the press, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to the gym, you're not going to he had made a super cut of all the times he filmed Bardela in a nudge and he's like I'm hungry. Play, search, craft and he's like oh a good time. He was just always hungry.
Starting point is 00:55:12 But you also develop a character like the TV reality and you have to find what is your ... how to say... the traits of your character. So for example your character fart all the time Or your character likes to clean his shoulders. It's not necessarily traits that must be positive, but it's traits that will reinforce the kind of attachment that you can have. Because you attach yourself to what? When you like a character, you attach yourself to all these enfractiosities. I found it cringe because, at first, the pose,
Starting point is 00:55:41 how he sits on his desk, it's uncomfortable, he doesn't look comfortable. That's what it looks like with the truth, you want to be truth, you don't want to look spectacular, you don't want to look like a stage presence. Exactly. And I think Poiliev, that's why he might even want to speak in a huge election. Because I see a dynamic that is still, in the polls, it decreases since the race to the cheffery. There's like a really corny effect or. He's really got a carnival effect. The carnival, that's it. But he also has a big dissonance within his supporters. They don't find him vocal enough about immigration.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Like Justin Trudeau. Pierre Poliev, there's a lot of photos of him on Twitter where he's going to celebrate with a Sikh community or a Punjabi community and he's going to be dressed in traditional Punjabi or Sikh clothes. So there's the look of Justin Trudeau who's dressing up, Maxime Bernier in the picture who's stealing votes from him. And there's the fact that Trump last week said that Pierre Poiliev doesn't seem like a magga guy. Trump said that and said, what did I read about him? He doesn't look like a maGA guy. Trump said that. He said, what did I read about him? He doesn't look like a MAGA guy. So? So? Does it make his image more
Starting point is 00:56:49 digestible to the eyes of Canadians? Well, they play it like that. He made an ad, he said, I'm not a MAGA guy, I'm a Canada guy. But what happens is that a lot of people who are the most fervent of Poiliev are Donald Trump's fans. I see a lot of dissent in the comments of Poiliev's tweets. Normally, 2 years ago or 1 year ago, it was just like, let's go Pierre, let's bring it home, blah blah blah. And then, just before yesterday, there was Patrick Bette David, who is like an American podcaster, who interviewed Trump, who was the one who did the first interview with Andrew Tate since he came back to the US.
Starting point is 00:57:25 He went on to tweet non-stop, bashing Pierre Poliev, because Pierre Poliev doesn't return his invitations to his podcast. And there's a discussion on how the American media should play a role in our elections. And Patrick Bette David is like the ultimate clout chaser, grifter, conservative. The bad caster. He starts bashing Pierre Pauliev. He's like, this is why you lost to Justin Trudeau. He didn't even understand what happened with Mark Carney. He doesn't understand Canadian politics at all.
Starting point is 00:57:51 He's like, yeah, you lost because you didn't come to us. It's like, bro, elections haven't even taken place yet. I was like, is there really a MAGA movement that will go against Pierre Pauliev? I think it could fucking ruin him. But what's interesting is to see how the American presidency is playing an important role right now in this race to let go Prime Minister, etc. in Canada. Yeah, because it's coming. In 2-3 weeks, Paulyev will go to Joe Rogan. No, but it's not announced anywhere. That's a prediction.
Starting point is 00:58:23 No, but that's going to happen. We're's a prediction. No, but it will happen. We will have to deal with Canada, Arrogant, all our media will talk about Arrogant. It will happen. Well, we will listen to it for you. And that's going to... I think he doesn't want to go, he doesn't want to do the American podcast circuit
Starting point is 00:58:39 because he just wants to go to Arrogant. I think it's the right decision. But after Poliev, I really see a negative dynamic, not just in his opponents, but in his fans. And just to finish this segment quickly, because there is the NPD, Jack Meating is already early on. He went to Tout le Monde Saïe, which is a politically non-political podcast, with Sam Sear and... He showed himself vulnerable. He said he was sexually assaulted when he was young.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Exactly. And he went to Politiquement Parlant, a podcast, No Offense, if you listen to the boys from Politiquement Parlant. He's not necessarily like, ultra-listened, but he went there. So he's on the Offensive Podcast, even before the elections. That's really where it's going to play out. But it's going to be interesting to follow. So that was my outing. There's the block, but I don't like the Blanchet François. It is what it is. Ok, thanks for the name. So I had a cultural recommendation to make.
Starting point is 00:59:28 It's the movie Grand Theft Omelette, which is currently available on Moubi. And I just subscribed to Café Snake. I don't know if we can do that, but I think that if the first 5 people write their email address to us in private message on Café Snake's Patreon, I'll try to send you the link to the movie because I have the opportunity to send the film for free to 5 people. So what is the scenario concept? It's a documentary, in fact, it's two British theater actors, they are unemployed in the middle of a pandemic of COVID-19 and they will try to put the Shakespeare's piece of Shakespeare in Grand Theft Auto Online. It says, desperately in search of a goal, they decide to put an Amlet production into the frame of their favorite video game's unpredictable universe. I would say that the film is like a fiction documentary, sometimes a fiction documentary.
Starting point is 01:00:19 And it's more like the making of that we see than the Amlet piece. Did you do it on stream? Yeah. I really found it interesting. There are moving parts, there are funny parts too. And it reminds me of an article I read this week, which is not new, it was released in October in the LA Times. It's called Seeing Like a Simulation by Céline Nguyen. It develops a foreplay so that there is more of what the author calls a software criticism. So, software criticism in newspapers, magazines, even in podcasts, why not? Or on the radio. We can talk about software, I don't know, there are many examples of software, but we can also consider that some video games are also software. She describes it as the software criticism, as the in-depth examination of a unique work.
Starting point is 01:01:10 There is the software that carries on its form, its function and its social-historical context. She will give the example of the book Building SimCity by the writer Chaim Gingold. I don't know if I pronounce it correctly, but he is really interested in the SimCity game. Have you ever played it? I've played it a lot. I've played a lot of it when I was young, but not at SimCity. So it's a video game series that was started by Will Wright in 1989. I'm reading Wikipedia. It puts SimCity on the scene. It's a management game that allows you to create, modify cities and manage them. So apparently in this book, we give the example of SimCity, which will really influence our way of seeing the management, the design of cities. And it's really sub-theorized, in the image of SimCity, which will really come and impact our way of thinking about urbanity, urban design, city management. Grand Theft Auto
Starting point is 01:02:07 also changes our view of the community or social relations. That's what I saw in that movie, among other things. There's something fundamentally violent in Grand Theft Auto and even in the relationships we can have at first sight with the characters. Because basically, you have guns, you steal cars, the police follow you, you kill people. And it's like one of the main issues in Grand Theft Amulet, because the actors are not capable, they really have trouble repeating the texts of the Shakespeare play or even meeting in groups, because they risk constantly getting killed, dying by people who arrive or characters who arrive in the game like
Starting point is 01:02:44 that and they just shoot them. Interesting too because the text of Amlet itself is a text that is super violent. There is really a big violence in this text too, there are a lot of murders. But with Grand Theft Auto, we are really in the domain of free murder, random murder, violence that is seen as a form of entertainment. So that's why I found it interesting that the universe of the game, of Grand Theft Auto, there are particular affordances that have to do with the social relations that you can have with the characters and precisely this violence came to pose obstacles to the production of the play. So that's it! Thank you for listening! Yeah and the next episode, next week episode will be available only on Patreon.
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