café snake - Charlie Kirk
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at the hour.
We'll cover
the assassinate of
Charlie Kirk,
without more tarded
the DJ News.
To-da-Doo!
This is such bullshit!
I've never been so pissed in my whole life!
I just murder Charlie Kirk right here in Utah!
I'm so freaking pissed right now!
This is bullshit!
I just saw a blood squirted out of his neck!
I love that guy!
He would have been our next president!
I am so pissed right now!
Why they always come with fucking violence?
You feel like a person?
Charlie Kirk, assassina.
I've heard a little bit before to react to his
assassina, because, you know, when there's an
event like that's going to happen, it's all the same
time, you're sure that they want to suffer
of the capital mediatic, and in the five minutes
that the event starts, it starts to spin
and the world, it's all the sense.
I wanted to go to an piece,
on a theory, I don't say that's it,
but I'm just that privilege
this theory, I think that's that
that's what makes more sense,
contrary to the theory
and the piage in which
all the world will come,
don't Farnel Morisette,
to say,
it's a conservator,
so he has been assassinated
by the left democratic.
That I think
that's the
piege evident
in which
those who
manipule the
people want
that you
don't.
I'd
perhaps a
little bit
more
long.
His
assassination
is
provenue
the
December,
the day
of the
end of
the 11
September.
And if you
don't love
me now,
you will
never love
me again
I can't
I'm actually
legitimately
shocked at
how far
they're going
with the
social
media
production of this entire thing.
Good evening. My name is Erica Kirk.
Charlie Kirk is my husband.
K-pop demon hunters is about a trio of Korean pop stars
who have the ability to cast out demons to the power of music.
The main character is this girl named Rumi.
Arno Dode, ma'am!
What's you do, bro?
What's it?
You're you're going on voyage, you're on Amsterdam with Nao?
It's all fucking bad.
There, you're out.
Yeah, Nao is strategic, strategic.
Babe, look at you in the mirror.
You're like, it's of the projection.
No.
This weekend, we talked of a revolt
to Nepal, that was ported by
the Jensi of Nepal. I listened to
their TikTok, they'd say, Genzi.
At the beginning, I saw revolt on Nepal,
and then I saw a piece of Brute
that was like, Jensi
made the revolution in Nepal.
These clashes in Nepal
are being called
Gen Z protests, and they were
sparked by a social media ban,
and what demonstrators say
is widespread government corruption.
Tejord!
Heavily armed police,
carrying batons and shields faced up with angry protesters in the Nepalese capital, Kathmandu.
It's a lot of years. I'd say it a few months. I'd say even that it's remount at Omon
Mars. And it's been, among other, inspired by a discourse in a school, a young, young
nepalais, who has had this discourse very politicized, which is become even viral in
line, and there's
a lot of
people who
remarked
that's,
not their
rhetoric necessarily
but the tone
of the message,
the tone of
the message,
even the fact
they're in
English, it's
that's how you
do you say.
Thank you.
And also
because at
the course of
the last
year, you
have a
trend
TikTok
that were
to make
these
translations AI
and the
discourse of
Hetleur
that were
made in
English but
with the
voice original
of E.
The people
all right
all right
all right
It's like, it seems to a discourse of Hitler.
It's so, so on, it's a Vichikar Rout, he has 16.
We'll make an extract.
Today I stand here, stand here with a dream of building a new Nepal,
with a fire of hope and passion burning within me.
But my heart is heavy, because this dream seems to be slipping away.
Rise and shines.
Futures of this upcoming imperial empire.
I of Shkarout, the head boy of this.
Everlasting Imperial Institute
Poor Libel English
Secondary School
Before you this moment
to shed light
within your consciousness
by piercing the dark nimbus
Even in the video
I've seen,
on a moment
of a while,
with a micro in the
hand,
and he's disdain't
kind of
these other persons
around to him
because he's
abied in costa
with some crayons
in his pouch
there really like
There's a aura
Yeah,
of politicians
on-de-vene,
you know?
It's Gabriel Lando
Dubois.
It's true.
Obviously, it's
it's been
many, I'd say
maybe
maybe perhaps
some years,
it's fomomont,
it comes
of a frustration,
of a
collair
face to the
corruption
of the government,
the toll of
chomage
elevated,
even also
by the
privilege of
a certain
class
political,
not the
menzies
of the
politicians.
There's an
hashtag
that's
quite
very
circuled
after the
manifestations
that
called
to nepotism
so hashtag
Nepo Kids
and me
it's not made, well, it's not made
laugh, but, you know, when we see, when we met,
at our first New York,
we had made some prevision in and out.
At the time, there had a coffee snake,
obviously,
and one of these predictions
concerning the nepotism.
We've been to think the coverture
to Fythi that had said,
it's the an year of the Nepo Baby,
whatever, there had so many poeobabee
discourse, I would remind
at 2003.
So, I thought that in
24, it would be the year
where is we'd like
the Nepo Babies.
They're celebrated.
Let's talk about the seven
next-gen Nepo Babies
who took over Fashion Month this season.
Listen, Nepo babies aren't the worst.
We've got to stop giving them a bad name.
It's not their f*** fault.
I wish I had a little...
And I think it's kind of happened.
There's plenty of Nepal that we have embraced
on the year of just the desks.
But after, it's fomented the revolution of Nepal.
So, there was the attention
from a bout.
And then, the week past,
the shows had been a turner more decisive
when the government has decided
to banning the most of the media social.
And that, it's been really
viewed like the
series on the
Sunday,
the gout
that has made
debordered the
vase, I
think, and
there's been
there's really
there were really
many people
of monster,
19 more,
and the police
had started
to try to
the people
that the
manifestations
have finally
chased
the ancient
Prime
Minister this
time,
and there
there's a
new new
director
who had been
to know
to the
head
of the
Nepal in
the
attempt
in the
election
next,
and we
said a bit
all the
source that
I've consulted
that this
woman
had been
named
via a forum
Discord
you're
a little
on TikTok
you
see even
the
enregistreements
of this
conversation
that.
It's a
brother
I'm
a
there's
a
man,
it's
a
there's
there's
there's
there's
there's
there were
a
general we elected the
president
on Discord
it's a
government
of transition
it's an
judge-in-chief of the Court Supreme,
who had been
who had combated
and who had come back to
the corruption
and who had
started to her retreat
as a judge
and she has
put the reign of
to the country
to establish a government,
and have the
place to have the
election.
Maybe they've
had, you
have been,
because there's
people in the vote
on the Discord
who have voted,
I think it
26%
they've voted for
a random
Nepali,
so he wanted
that it was
someone
or Azor
who's selected.
I don't know
in fact,
I see, in fact,
I don't know
how this decision
is orchestrated.
Exactly,
Me, what I'm that I found interesting, it's a video of about 20 minutes,
which was still available here on YouTube, so here Saturday,
who had already reculted more of 22 million of views,
which is called The Side of Nepal Media Won't Show You.
There, I'm going to look it, and then, unfortunately, he has been retired to YouTube.
I think it's an affair to...
There's a copy-strike, a copyright claim, for a song,
but it can be a pretext, I don't know if they're going to remit on the line on the song, I don't see
What we see there
is an
estes
an estes
of influence
or creator
of content
rather
of voyage
so he
arrive
there just
at the
moment or just the
manifestations
clatt
literally like
the
day I think
he's
coming
and he's
made to
turn
all what
he's
all
to
he
all
for the
for the kids
that were
flaunting
their
wealth or
something
because
people are
saying this
is for
so
a minute
no
this is for
like corruption
It burns the forehead and it smells like wasabi or mustard.
Thank you so much.
They have done it, yes.
You've broken into Parliament.
Yeah.
What the fuck am I witnessing right now?
Crazy man.
No, you know, do you need the ball that so many years, they are so collected and that the young is coming and they will do that.
I heard.
I heard, brother.
We want to do this by our own choice.
We are doing this because they deserve it.
Yes, we can defeat it.
We can Nepal.
Yes, we can defeat it.
It is for Nepal.
And we will chase Nepal.
No.
No.
Geli only Rundi gopal.
Gengji.
Gensi!
Yeah!
We see the people interact with him.
We see the people interact with him, the ambiance of what's what he's
when we see, that we see the battenments that are literally in flame.
In the parliament.
We're a feeling that a febrily, an euphory in the air,
and the people are fiat, in fact, of what's what he's going to,
there's a yearn't, finally, to be ressembled,
and to have uny their force, because, yes, it's the Jensi,
the Gensi, but there's also
many people more
years, etc., in the
streets, they want,
they're going to
they're able to
say, hey, it's Nepal, it's
historic,
these exchanges
of sorrier,
but also
the power, you
we can't
these coup of
fire, we
know, we
offer even
to the law
at a moment
of a moment
of it.
What I've
found
partially interesting
also,
is that you
see that
the people
who are
around
they have
a conscience
media
so, they
know, they
know how
appear
before the
camera,
they
that the guy is in trying to turn it,
even if it's not necessarily
a creator of content
known,
it's a video
that's a video
that's a video
that's really
a concern,
finally,
to be well
to be able to
represent the
Nepal,
and effectively
this guy that
becomes,
the day or
a day or
a day
there's even
the Nepalais
who are
going to say
that we're
going to
say foreign
minister
of Nepal
and he
he was poste
on his Instagram
I'm going
consultate
some kind of
a
kind of a
great text,
he says,
it's incredible
what's
what I'm
like,
it's like
a transformation
extreme for
him for his
career.
So it
becomes a
move,
you know,
which finally
the propulse
at the
front plan
numeric.
And it's
that's
this
media,
you know,
in this
movement
that.
I'm
on my
FOU
page,
I'm
much of
revolution
fit check,
the
kind of
day in
life,
of the
revolution.
I want
plenty of
content
TikTok
normal.
And
I think
it's
Like, I mean, I had all time
did it all
do you know, it's like
like this idea that
that's like Tick-Tock
us accompanies
that's a revolution
fid-check,
like the fid-checks
it existed not
during the
grave,
and it's, you know,
but there had
already this
consensus, like,
oh, my God,
it's an event
social also,
you know,
how is we
want to be
to presently,
he me
I'm,
I'm,
he says that,
he says,
oh, my God,
he is so,
he's so,
he says particularly
I am forever grateful to the incredible Nepali people who welcomed me in their protests,
kept me safe as best they could and helped me to share to the world what was really happening on the ground.
And what I found interesting, let's say, in the discourse mediatic of the show,
is that, on the date of today,
we say that all of this has made 72 more and several blessed, obviously.
But we don't really, like, who are dead and how?
You, we'd probably think that, effectively, the salary of the manifestations that sometimes turn,
at the violence, because, you know, you see, you
see, you see, you see,
you know, you see, you know,
there's a lot of people, but it's
that there's a very strong repression
policeire.
It's, like, really difficult
to find these
rensignments that.
I've found, in
any case, that,
in fact, there would
59,
manifestant, 10,
prisoners, and three
policiers.
Because there also
many of prisoners
who have profited
to all instability
to see vade of
prison?
It's just that,
for me, the
sort of, you,
the total of
more, it's, it's circuled
like that in our
media, and it's
never contextualized,
but in fact,
it's the violence
policeier in
grand party
that caused these
murders,
we say even
some of the
people who
manifested,
that the police
would be in
the full of
a way
indiscriminate.
And one
other thing
is intriguing
in the
way that it
had been
in the
media,
is that there
many people
that were
relayed
that the
manifestations
on Nepal had
had used
at cause
the ban
of the
media
social
like if it was really
that the cause,
the racine
profound of
this instability
political.
So,
really,
the corruption
that is
denounced,
I think that
this idea
to banning
the radio
social,
that's really
a strategy
of control.
At the
beginning,
there had
had been
the
manifestations
pacific
of Genzi,
the attention
ultimately
monted,
and the
last,
the government
decided
to banning
the platforms
of
the platforms of
social
principal.
it's there that it's escalade.
Lundie, there had
been the manifestations
who have been
violent, and 19
people are
more.
And it's all
continued all the
same.
And it's what I
see,
who I thought,
was it was that
photo where is
we saw a
young
in the parliament
in Fland,
which had
the jolly
Roger,
the drapoo of
one piece,
in fact,
where we can
see,
a pirate
with the
chapo of
Luffy,
a teat
to moor.
This drapo,
in the show,
symbol of
liberty
who declared
his independence
against the government
world,
so on Peace,
who's still
quite a revolutionary
of a young pirate
who will liberate
the population
of the empire.
One Piece is the
anime the most
popular of the history.
These manifestants
Nepal had succour
the woman of
fuhrie.
The ancient minister
Sharrat Singh Bandari
has quitted the Nepal
after the
government,
abandoning his
family in situation
of handicapped.
These young
they've been
talking to
remanement
ministerial of
Francoe Lego
and finally,
really in
the regime for
Francoego,
and I'll talk
briefly because
Because, honestly, it's
it arrived
pretty time
that Charlie Kirk
has made
assassinated.
So,
even I'm not
too see,
I'm going to see,
the night of course,
he had moved
to Ransau,
he's made
the treasor,
he made Sonia Lebel
to Treasor
at the education,
Bernard Rivele,
at the environment,
Matthew Lackombe
rest to the culture,
but honestly,
it will
nothing do you
do anything
to change what
what's going,
and there,
we have French
Elan Du Ransau,
I'm going to
not to say,
but we'll
not the appell
the appellate
the new president,
of the Council
of the Treasor.
I'm retient
for not
to make
a black
that we
call the
repal
not.
It will
be in charge
sincerely,
we're on
chained.
The new
president
of the
Council
of the
Treasor
will be
responsible
to go
to be
assuring
in
each of
the
Ministers
that we
do
menage, in bureaucracy.
I think he's in complete
derap, I don't know,
I think he was
demission to a Noelle,
if I was a bad live,
I'm not, I think
he will,
well, in fact,
I'd like that,
personallyelma,
personally, who's
under the election
and they're
in bonn and suburb.
Now, it's
bad, and it
has said,
it's four
priorities,
the economy,
a little doge,
he's named
in French-Ean
Durant,
not only the secretary
of the treasor,
but also
of the efficacy
governmental, a
post that has
invented,
so we go
in this line
of the bureaucracy
that the bureaucracy
that brings
Identity and the culture, so that's
we're referring to laishty, the prairies
and the project of law on
the discoverability. It's just, like,
made in the same category. It's,
it's, it's like, like, so
the government wants to frame
this issue that, of identity.
It's not only, we're that, we're going to
see that, but also, we're going to
stop the same subject, in the
same subject, in the font. If it's full
to, like, convince this generation
to regard our productions cultural, that
it's sure.
I think
it's really
it's never
ever seen
a new
timeing.
He wanted to
give him
any of the
public,
there were
any media
that's
all the radio
journal
parted by the
assassination
of Charlie Kirk
Moveh timing
political
they could
not
they could not
it's a
much, but I
think it's
like accrued
to the
political
provincial of
Quebec
I've not
not seen
his remandment
ministerial
I'm totally
indifference
it's
going to
be the
nothing that
will not
have been
there's
I'm not
what he's
he'd, and in plus,
his caucus
was desolidarized
soon as well.
It's the meltdown
of the KACC,
it's like
that's all
that's all the
final of the
party that has
not a lot of
really,
I saw that,
he said,
your party,
it's a coalition,
he'd say
the KACC,
it's a coalition,
des independantists,
the very
foreign nationalists,
blah,
no,
there's even not
there's
independentists,
he said,
there's been
anti-Matico,
he said,
the federalists also,
and then,
and then,
he arrived even
to admit,
their party
does not
No, no sense.
If they don't
the power,
like,
this party
exist would not.
I'd
have to go
the suit,
but I'm
quite
to see.
Hmm.
I'm
trying to
return to
the religion
because this
weekend,
the press
was out of
a dossier
with three
articles,
so that
the
appell of
the
community
traditional,
young
Quebecoise,
conservative
and Christian.
We're
we're talking
about the
movement trad
trade-wife,
how they
can't
here in
Quebec.
And we
say,
by example,
in the
article
on the
article on
a little embriaded in this ideology
there. It's suffice to have access to internet
and to understand the English, because it's
all the United, for to be exposed
to this type of content that. The
four women that the press has
encountered, will
a little recounting their
cheminement, how they
they're seeing, how they're
becoming tradwife. And we
will, notably, cite
a researcher, that, me,
if I had interviewed for my
article, Christianism, on
internet, so Benjamin
gained doctorate in
education of
the University of
Montreal and
at the University
of Strasbourg,
who will, in
fact, and that
is a point
that's important,
to return not
to the
religion, to
the Christianity,
but more
particularly to
the branch
protestant,
evangelical.
It's really
there's a
decision, I
think, he
will say,
he will say,
by example,
at the time,
the evangelists
are always
rested
very pre
of the innovations
technological.
And there, he
don't the
example of the
televangelists
who have
profited of
television for
diffused
these sermons
on the
screen during
the 2nd
month of 20th
century.
And,
just this
second
moate there
that
corresponds to
the kind of
the
kind of
what some
people
call the
neo-evangelism.
So,
I continue
to read
on the
religion,
notably,
and especially
protestant
and particularly
evangelical.
I've
read several
articles
that
that's
not about
AI Slop
Avis
Evangelic
on YouTube
of
videos generated
by the intelligence artificial
that's
that's
that's
the passage
of the
Bible,
but I
also read
a book
that's mentioned
in a
article
that's called
People of
the Screen
it's
written by
someone
who is
a confession
evangelic
John Dyer
a professor
of Dallas
Theological
Seminary
I don't
see what
and
and it's
that, he
he's written
this
book that
retrace
the history
of the
logicians
biblique
so really
to make the link
between
the religion
protestant
evangelical and
his rapport
to the technology
and like
it's a
book that's
available
on the
book
in the
version
numeric, I
can't
read two
chapters.
I'm not
all right
but I'm
not all
things to
I think
it's really
important
when we
talk of a
return to
the Christianity
or to
see the
religion
even in
Quebec
to insist
on the
fact that
what's
what's
what is
to the branch
Protestant Evangelic.
And it's
also in our
regard on the
media social,
the tendons,
or even the
political American,
because the
Christians
evangelical are very
present in
politics
American,
notably Trump,
but also
that we'll
talk about Charlie
Kirk.
We're also
that we're
we're pretty
in majority
Catholic,
or in any case
our ancestors,
it had.
There had
had the
branch protestant
that's
developed,
notably with
the technology
in the idea
that the
book, the
codex,
and also
after that,
the imprimer,
the invention
of the
imprimer,
has been
to learn
the Bible,
to have
a report
direct with
the text
biblical.
So it
has changed
also in
the religion
protestant,
the
rapport to
the report
that is a
particular
personal,
that is
encreed
in the
public,
there's
not a
mediation
necessarily
with,
by example,
a priest or
a pap,
or whatever,
of
the
of the sacred.
What I've found
really interesting
in the
proposal of
John Dyer,
is who he
says that,
yes,
the religion
uses these
technologies
but these
tools that
technological in
counterparty,
they will
also influence
our way,
by example,
to develop
a relation
with the
sacred or
to
understand the
Bible,
because in
his
there is
certainly
question of
the
logician
biblique,
so,
the logicel,
the applications,
that we
permit to
go to
read the
Bible.
Wow,
by example,
if it's
at the
television,
the people
the people
don't know
it's
that we're
going to learn
the passage
more
of the
people who
are they
be used
more often,
the passage
the plus
clickbait.
So,
the television
fashion
the span
of attention
of the
people.
So,
we'll
study this
segment
of the
Bible
that is
more
because he
rejoin
plus
of people.
How
how the
technology
fashion
the religion
today?
And I
think that
it's like
a
angle
that's not
often
abhorred
when we
talk of
the
resurgence
of
the religion
here in
the
especially
the religion
evangelical
by the way
also
I just
just say
a shoutout
at RAD
that
finally
covered
the
Riveval
Montreal
Charlotte
Frederick
Lacele
Julia
Paget
very
good
reportage
I think
they're
really
they're
not
he's not
they're
doing
there's
there
there's
in the
archives of
Canada
I'm
quite
we're
To make an excret.
Yeah.
Honestly, I'm going to pray for France in the book.
La Cacques
talks of a malise
by the people who are
in the street.
Is that you
do you understand?
I understand the intention
of that.
I can't see the priors of Muslims and all.
We're not with that.
What's the difference?
We're two religions completely different.
We're two religions completely different.
We are no kind of like...
I, I would not that personally.
I'm not fan of that, don't know.
You'd not that?
I'd pray not in the road.
I'd say.
I'd like that.
But, like, you evangelise on St. Catherine, but you prie...
You'd pray not that you'd, but it's not that you do.
There's a question.
There's one.
There's one.
There's one.
Another, it's, I'm the response.
Vietan.
So, it's that.
The neo-evangelic, more particularly,
they've, they've really uposed
all that's doing post-2nd-Gare-Mondial.
So, that it's all the radio, the magazines,
The Chinese, the books, all that.
In the context of the United,
the different confessions, religion, and all of that,
had no financement public,
so of financemental.
Contrarment, on Quebec,
where, before, the Revolution,
by example, the state was very,
very, very, lily to the religion,
and there had an espouse of finance
direct or indirect.
But the thing with the Quebec,
is that the population Quebec-co-Socrine,
it exists because of the Churches Catholic.
We are a lot of Catholic,
but it's in opposition with when the Anglons
had started to sit there, he had protestant
and they let the Francophones
practised the faith Catholic.
It's what he made in fact
that the two
have created these institutions
in parallel.
It's the only reason
why there's still reason
why there's
there's still
the church here
had been in part
financed by the
state,
whereas in the
United there had
not this
which he had
pushed to
to get to
to adapt to
all sorts of
tendencies of technology
for just survive
to spinoing,
flouring, you know, amassed also
of the capital. They've developed
a model, you know, that's very
adaptable, flexible.
And what's what it makes
think about, because now we're
talking about the media
social and the media,
like the creators of
content who have
not a financement
public, well,
they'll have maybe
a way to
adapt to the tendency
more reactive than
for example the
media traditional.
At the 20th century,
the evangelists,
they even constructed
almost, we could say,
these empires,
religious,
mediatic,
where there really
personalities,
these programs of TV. They also
used the technology in saying that
not only it's aides
to follow the ensignments
of Jesus or whatever, but it's also
useful in their efforts of
recruitment, of evangelization.
It's not necessarily that the religion
is in accord with
the technology, the new
technology, but they say it as
as in a way pragmatic, you know,
if the whole final
it's in sort that more of
people can connect to the Bible, well,
it's positive.
So there's a
rapport
of the
technology
mediatic
that is
full of
the author
also
about what
the
hopeful
entrepreneurial
pragmatism
and what's
a state
an attitude
that is
quite quite
quite
quite
that's quite
this marriage
of the
technology
with the
faith
and he also
for the
evangelists
it's really
important
the Bible
the
the study of
the
Bible
the
the lecture
personal
of the
Bible
that we
We want maximise the engagement, so engage with the Bible, a little like a post, a video.
For me, this idea of engagement, finally, because the Bible, on-sohn, it's a media.
In fact, it's a bit of the text of the web.
I think that it's really important to study the link between the tech and this religion
that, and how, also, perhaps, these new iterations of the religion that we see,
by example, with the
Iglesia
at Montreal,
Revival Church.
She also
is inscribe
in a context
and if,
let's it
become super
popular,
to be a
influencer
evangelist,
it's called
also to
modify,
maybe a
little the
religion in
so.
By opposition
to that,
if I
would,
I'd reinded to
the religion
Catholic,
there,
she came
just to
canonized
his first
sin
millennial,
Carlos
Acutis,
who
was also
surnombe
the influence
of God.
He is
He was dead in 2006, of the lecimi.
We're called the patron saint of the internet, because when he
was living, he had some things in line, he coded a little, I'm not too,
he did these sites internet cato.
But, you know, he is dead in 2006.
It's like if we were still with the cato, at the time,
where Facebook would just, or at a pain to be created.
But there were a show of Poshetti to Vatican, that's what he arrives when the
Papa is American.
It's sponsored by Disney Plus, literally, there's two years.
We've seen their effort
to want to
be renewed
to touch
some people
but I think
A show of rap
to Vatican
I think we're
in the air
of media
we're in an
air excessively
mediatic
so maybe
the values
the ideology
that will the
most
be the most
to become
viral
if we can
say it's
that's the
plus
the tuss of
internet
and the
media social
in particular
A show
of Vatican
on
Disney Plus
I talk of cocaine, Pochetti, they vend the anew.
So, like, the subject of the episode,
the 10 September, 2025, Charlie Kirk,
militant, and organizer political and personality mediatic-american,
has been assassinated.
It's made during the launchment of his new tour on the campus
American.
Charlie Kirk is a Republican-Creat-Creat-conservator.
In 2012, at 18-year-old, he had founded Turning Point USA,
an organization that had for the view
and as mission to generate a momentum political
for the ideas of the Party Republican and for the young.
That's like the definition
as standard
If you see you
If you see
You see you see
A conservative media landscape
From the primary
of Trump in 2015
It's sure that you
have seen
His name
Or of the clip
of him
Ones on
of shock
It's in public
Before a gross
Full,
The Assassina had
been registered
on almost
all the angles
Rapidly,
the video
has made the
tour of
all the platforms
I'm a
I'm a friend
who has seen
on TikTok
An ami
who has seen
on Instagram
I personally
I perso
I've seen
on Twitter
In fact
what is crazy
is that
How I've
applied
this
newvel,
I'm going to
participate in a
panel
on marge of
the pre-GMO
at the
filmatic
and I'm
talking about
to get to
join the
young.
And I'm
often
about this
idea of
on Caffe
Snake or
on
Twitter,
that one of
the strategy
would be
where is
the young
are,
so,
to make
on
the
discussion in
the Cepos
and the
example,
before the
panel
of the
panel of
whatever,
I'm
there's
a guy
coming
like,
oh,
nice panel
byro
oh, you
just just
to talk to Charlie Kirk, he came to say shot.
I regard to my cell, and my
my ancient colloquy, who had sent me had
envied the video of Charlie Creek
that was shot.
Your own own colleague, who is the right?
Yeah, who is a Trump supporter,
who is parted to his job
before the end of his day of work,
so it had shockeded this video.
Clearly, he has not seen the Palestinians
to have killed
in your feed
for two years?
It's what I want to
a bit, in fact.
The first thing
that I want to explore
concerning all this,
is the fact that
this video exists,
in fact,
that it's also
largely diffused. We've
could see the reaction of
so many people in direct to this video.
But it's still
someone that we can consider as an
influencer, and he's definitely a fool,
we're in a universe mediatic, what's
that does a fool? It's a film.
So, obviously, there were
all sorts of angles, of point of view,
and of video that had...
Exactly, it's so. We're at one air
also where everyone is in direct
during the day, the week,
everyone is in registering these things.
So, we've seen the reaction
of the streamer Asanabe.
footage of Charlie Kirk getting shot in the neck here as well where you can click oh he's dead oh my god
he's definitely dead oh my god I can't believe I just saw that oh my god oh my god oh he definitely
got shot in the neck oh my god oh fuck
this just happened we just found out that that Charlie Kirk
Redshot.
It was fucking awful.
And is he dead?
No, I don't think so.
That's what was just...
One of the guys out there just said...
...in the lobby was just...
I was looking, I've been looking.
I haven't seen anything that said confirmed.
Whoa!
Or, of Lewis LeFoe in Sabato in Quebec.
Charlie Kerr, Kirstie, he's got to try in the coup,
today, man.
I don't know nothing to say, but he's...
But he's probably
Charlie Kirk
You know, it's who?
The guy, man,
he's just two jobs.
During the pandemic
of COVID,
one of the few ones
the most controversial
that emerged
at the end of the
doctor Robert Malone
who was present
as one of the
technology
of the vaccine
mRNA.
He was to go
to Joe Rogan
it had
made in question
all the reaction
of the reaction
of the pandemic
and he called
that the
response
governmental to the
pandemic
and even public
a mass
formation
psychosis.
European intellectual inquiry into what the heck happened in Germany in the 20s and 30s.
You know, very intelligent, highly educated population, and they went barking mad.
And how did that happen?
The answer is mass formation psychosis.
In French, we could say psychosis, psychosis.
It's not a term that is recognized by any book of psychiatry.
It's not a vocabulary that pertain, even on the world of the psychiatry.
We're talking more of a comportment collective or of phenomena of full.
But this term, he had, like, marked my imagination at this moment that.
I recount all this lore that, not to say that as I'd agree with the thesis of Mollone,
but at this moment that, it made me interest more actively to the events,
how they change collectively.
The events also gross, at our time,
at each time, have the opportunity to change the psyche of a very grand number of the population.
Not all the time, but there's definitely an avant and an after.
The exposition to the violence on internet is not new new,
there's a live leak,
that's repair of all the videos of execution
and torture
for more of 20 years
on the internet
on example local
there's the video
the murder violent
of Lukaroko Magota
that has full circulated
on the internet
and there's all the
videos that we can
see from the 7 October
because we see
the Palestinians
defiled more
of the car
without life
and the
we're exposed
to the violence
every day
on the internet
but I think
there's something
different
with this video
not morally
not more than
it's not
more important
but I think
the fact of
a fizzes
that's somemute
familiar
to come
just an car
more in a few seconds. For me, let's
enlap the part political of the
event. This eventment, like, we'll form the
imaginer collective for the next
years. For example, I've regarded
a kind of shockumentary, that we call it
also, the exploitation film. In other
it's called The Killing of America,
I'd mottree, also, because it's available
in line, on the internet archive.
But, there's really an espest of
historicity, these turries of mass, in America
in the United, more particularly, and it's
like in the tradition
American, to have
these figures
political,
to have executed
to be able to
public.
I think to
John F. Kennedy,
I think to
his brother,
after that,
Robert Kennedy?
Yeah,
but Abraham King
has done it
on the theater,
you know,
I'm not, I'm
just at this
air, that,
this video,
I'm,
I'm,
and maybe it
will evolve
with the time,
but how
I've seen it
on the
cut,
it's like
the representation
visual of
the deba
numeric that
is made
every second
on internet.
It's like
we've seen,
point blank,
all the people who see
on the internet
it's like that
I'm gonna interpret
live, it's
going to change
sure but this
video that
of all people
who's just Charlie Kirk
and who died
instantanate
it's like the
five years
the years of
online discourse
in an eventment
and it's
it's like
it's like
it's like
if you want to
talk about
what you want
to get down,
what's
what's like
it's not
really
coffee sning
I'm like
I've used also
many things
that's about
there,
but it's right
there's something
particularly
particularly
anti-sacacac
let's say, by
a part
to do
like that
an execution
public
that's
transform the
car in something
purely
corporeal.
It's,
it's just as
we've got
the vulnerability
also of
a figure
who has
a lot of
all the final of
all that,
it's a
realignability.
It's like
an humiliation
public also
for a
figure of
this
envergure
to be
to be
to be
to be
the
part.
And I'm
the
something
also
in,
you know,
I do
say often, but there's a
Mepri of the
core,
a lot of the
discourse
in the time.
Yeah,
especially in the
sphere of the
tech and
all the...
Yeah,
but, you know,
I think
he can't
also of
other,
of all sorts
of ways,
recently,
recently,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
but this idea
of,
finally,
the mepre
of course,
it comes to
a non-acceptation
of our
nature
mortel.
There's a
form of
megalomani
pretty to
to be able
to grow
immortel
or to
think,
or just,
to not
cultivate
this rapport
to the death, who is not in the horror, in the
fear, but just like, no, it's part
of the life of mourn. Yeah, like I said, my
amy, who I'm going to, this video, because
I'm like, I'm like, their friend who talks to politics
for those people who are zero politicized,
who me talk to the death of Charlie Kirk.
You know, I think that's so much
an event mainstream, it's not a lot of sense.
I've rarely seen, in fact,
often of people that I see,
who don't follow not the politics
who are suddenly interpolled
by this video, in fact,
and by this event.
Charlie Kirk had a place
quite special in the
ecosystem MAGA
because it's
avant all the most
their most
it's an organization
political.
Yes, there's
the debate on
the campus
but I think
that's the
most great contribution
to the movement
to the movement
MAGA
is the
work of
and organization
of the force
logistic and
benevolal of
Trump.
Because there
three or five
years,
yes, Charlie
Kirk
is an figure
known in
the ecosystem
conservative
American,
but much
more than
it's
like Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, or
also Tucker Carlson.
Even his content that he has
done these debates public in the college
campus, it's a copy
of the famous concept of the commentator
Republican Stephen Crowder
with his famous series,
Change My Mind.
It's really a classic
of the end of the year of 2010
There's two gender, change my mind.
I'd say plenty of people
to write Charlie Kirk like that.
The people know even not
that's not he invented this format
or in any case popularized.
This kind of mode of debuts
We've seen so on link on TikTok.
There are some debaterers who are
who are doing these hours.
I think also at the channel YouTube Jubilee
that has been quite clueled
when it's quite a lot of
2010, we think of
a lot of figure
before to nom me Charlie Kirk.
But that's my experience
personal Quebecoise of the politics
American.
Maybe on the terrain, it's different.
In as a young man
he's made radicalized.
Yeah, it's really
this last cycle electoral
that has been his most
push mainstream.
So, since you've
talked to
the Republican National
Convention.
So,
I'm in the
full of all of
that,
I've seen
used the terms
to use,
you know,
has been
used,
you know,
especially,
obviously,
the violence
political,
and also the
terrorism
stochasticic,
so we
use,
which is
that contains
a variable
allayatour,
so it
has a
rapport a
bit of
hazard.
Terrorism
stochastick,
it design
a design,
a communication,
so,
so it
has been
with dissemined
the
, let's
the discourse,
who will
have,
for objective
to incite
in a manner
a
a lot of
those actors
to commit
these acts
violent or
terrorists
who are
statistically
previsable
so we
can't
expect
to do you
but they
are individually
imprevisable
so we can
not know
where it
can't
know what
he's
he can't
invite
eight
nine boss
of insurgent
to capital
it's not
the incitation
to terrorism
it's accompanied
of a
language
that can't
indirect
the whistle
by example
the language
a little
code,
of the
references
that
permit to
the person
who
keep a
question
to reject
the way
the fact
plausible
the responsibility
of the
violence
that result
of what
he said.
Obviously,
we can
think to
all what
that's
people
on the
media social.
It
comes a
fuller
of violence
political
because
that's a
form of
violence
political
but we
have
a lot of
it's
really
unacceptable
the
violence
and I
don't
not I endorse
not the
violence.
But what
you
also say
that's
it's Taylor Lawrence
that
he said in
his
effolette.
In reality,
the America
is based
on a form
of violence
political
that's
for his
standing
political
international,
her richness,
all what
what's
what is
in America
in this moment
it's
enchased
to the
violence
political.
She said,
well,
you know,
when we
talk about
violence
political
in the
media,
we're
not, we
don't
not about
the violence
political
in a
sense
large,
but often
we use
this term
when there
questions
of violence
that is
directs
to
these elites
or of
people who
have a
position
influence
who have
in the
full of the
there's a
there's
there's
on the
under the
publication of
TikTok and
Instagram
the people
that's
abstined
to say
is the
death
the murderer
is a
person, is
someone
is a
professional
who has
received
a special
a special
has
an expertise
and I'm
an impression
that
this take
that it
can't
it's like
it's like
it's someone
who makes
people who
are people who
are trained
to kill, we don't, finally, the violence,
notably in the States of the United,
or, especially in this state there,
where all the men,
well, it's not a lot of
a lot of wolf,
or it's not like, uh,
a, uh, a, uh, a guy who has been
trained, who has an expertise in violence.
But when the people, they want to say,
it's an expertise in violence,
they want to know if,
justly, it's organized,
it's orchestrated,
is, if there were a hit
on his head,
is that, is, you know,
it's all these reflections that,
like, we're, like,
we're, like, you know,
Because it's
that.
All the
declaration of his
war,
it's been Donald Trump
who has made
a post
on true of the show.
Rip Charlie Kirk,
he's more.
So, it's
really,
I'm just,
I'm looking
of a president
in the communication
political.
We can be
also with the
director of
FBI,
Cash Patel
who tweet
the headlines
of Fox News
for the
confirmation.
There's no
to communicate
of press,
there's
there's been,
there's just
how the
communications
are used
during all
what,
what's
what's
what's going to
Charlie Kirk. I think directly
what's he's installed. It's a
kind of brouillard constant, in fact.
We're talking to fog of war, but all
is possible, and all is impossible in the same time.
It depends on which
side you regard to. I mean, we're
doing it to find out of this
school, his father and policed. You know, from when we
saw he saw, on the beginning, we thought
that it was a view of course
that he had already, we had made
all his bio to him, he's here, he said,
you know, there's no way to
know if the information is true,
and he will have no other
of a way of
after that
that's all the
poster will
be told.
That's my take.
I see,
we're just
never the same
the same way.
And I know
that's
like it's
like neilis,
cynic in fact
but it's
just how
I observe,
how the information
is develop
on Twitter
in the
and after
it's all
all around
on the internet
is that
people,
they cite
these tweets
that's
allotot
all referenced
there's
there's any
there's
there's
what the source
that comes
to the
administration
of Chum
it's
Cache Pate
on the
Adderal
that's
There's like, there's no way to
Cache Patel
and he talks
to Valhalla
we're going to
make the clip
but,
yeah,
he's a
reference
to the
paradise
of the vikings
to my
friend Charlie Kirk
rest now
brother
we have the watch
and I'll see you
in Valhalla
as it
is an expression
that is
a lot
in the world
military but
you know
like we're
in a space
of context
of the
newvel
that's covered
everywhere in the world.
Yeah, he said, I'll see you in Valala.
And it's the same of the mythology
Nordic, the endroar who
the valorous gueriers of defunned.
It's so.
So, why do you cross?
I'd say, clearly, the doodd
he is biased, there?
There's a lot of theory
of this comploer.
After, he's not Christian,
he can't say Heaven, blah, blah, blah.
Trump needs to fire.
Cash Patel, because he's Indian,
whatever.
After, justly,
apparently, talking to speculation,
yeah.
There's the information
that will come to start
to count of gutt,
finally, the
ball, we've got
found out of the
video of him
that's released
by the FBI
and there
commons,
in fact,
all the discussion
about what is
written on
what's the
when the
is found out of,
I'm trying,
I'm
talking also
on the people
who say,
but,
you know,
to really
understand
the message
that are
graveed
on the
ball,
well,
you know,
the brain
rut or
the culture
of the
meme.
And there
really
made
to my
article that
I had
written in
the press
on the press
on the brain rut, because my
my view, at the
article, it's
that we're going
an definition
that's a pseudo-medical,
and it's not
that, the angle
that was invested
by the media
when we talked about
when we said,
ah, it's the
purishment of
the servo,
it's really,
there were even
the clinics
in the States
um,
who proposed
these cures
or the therapy
when you were
attained of
purishment of
the servo.
And I wanted
to bring
to bring up
more in terms
of language.
And the language,
is when you
you can't or you
don't,
there's really
a game
of exclusion
and a
language that
change at the
V,
it's a lot of
more of exclusion
than inclusion.
And what's
what I said,
I've said
my trick,
so that
the brainr
of presage
really,
it's a
new R
linguistic that
valorisor
a expertise
well,
the power
decode
a language
evanescent.
Like the
shuling,
the chronicer
web,
Cal
Raymond
Fitzpatrick
in some
infolette
to Tren Report,
that I
you can't
the language
numeric
is particularize,
plus those
and those who
can't do you
have to serve
to give.
So,
I'd say that
finally,
the people
who had been
kind of a
value
important.
I wanted
really orientate
the discussion
like the
Brunrod,
it's a
language, and
obviously,
we're in
the fuller
of the
messages that
were insured
on the
the first
interpretations
were completely
weird,
or,
in the
class
dirigent,
not
have this expertise
that,
not seem to
know this
language that.
Because at
the end of
a fascist,
catch this,
oh,
will notice
bulge,
what's that,
whatever.
And what's
what's
what's got,
before we
see the
message
on the
complete, it
there's
there's
the inscriptions
anti-fascist
and pro-trans.
It's
the first
new news
that's
so,
like,
it's shaped
all the
people
were like,
it's a
leftist,
it's a
militant trans,
it's
party of the militants
who's organized
all the U.S.
We have Trump
who's out the
morning to
we're talking to
radical leftist
lunatics.
So,
the discourse
had been camped
in the direction
that.
It's made in
the moment
that they were
really what
was written
on the ball
we've put
that the
hey fascist
catch this
with the
sign of
the flesh
is in fact
a reference
to a
video.
The Owen
Notice Bulge
in fact is
the irony
posting of
people who are
necessarily
not at
right or at
go, I'm in
these communities
on Discord
or the communities
really niched
there's not
necessarily
of the affiliation
political
that's used
in the two
cases if we're
really
really simplified
like that
but it's like
there's just
there's just
there's just
much more
the moment
that's
what they're
really
written on
the ball?
Yeah,
but it's
to revenue
to revert
of the
brain rut.
Why is
I'm going
at this point
that,
let's talk
the
question,
that's
my
last
my last
appearance
at the radio
of
radio
Canada
where
where, just, I'd
talk about
the language,
mimetic,
the brain rut,
and then we
had, like,
acculed a
bit on the
time in live
with these
etudes
by rapport
that I could
really not
verify.
I had five
minutes chrono
to talk about,
I was in
live,
I don't know
who,
a political
and an advocate.
We'd
be the fact
that the
brain rut
that makes
people
stupid or
it's a
secret, and
then I'm
clearly,
by example,
I think,
I was on
Blue Sky,
and I've seen
a journalist
it's written that he had written an article for MSNBC,
justly, by rapport
to all of all, he said,
given what we know so far,
they suggest a young man
who had his brain fried
by the irony poisoned
anti-social nature
of certain aspects of online culture.
So, after what we know
just to present,
he suggests that what we
see on the ball,
it's, it comes
of a young man
whose brain has been
by the irony
numeric
that's been
poisoned by
certain aspects
of the culture
in line
that would be
anti-social.
The affair
with this
cardrage
that is that
reproductue
a form of
dualism
numerical,
like the
culture
in line
was fundamentally
different
of the culture
at large,
so,
so,
the more
the culture
numeric
is simply
the culture.
The problem,
in fact,
is that
when we do
this kind of
dualism
that,
it's not
to say
that what
what we're
in
line,
it's not
different
of what we
think it's
not different,
of what's
it's not
just what we
don't know
it's the rapport
to the way
to the life.
But it
you have
always
consider what
it's going to
be in line or
the numeric
like something
of an
indissatiably
with the
world in
the world in
the world.
So for
me,
if it's
the
reflets
also of the
culture
in the
where we
ban, or
it's the
reflet
of the clivage
which
separate
the world,
it's the refa of the violence in which
we can't. It can't make certain
politics, by example, to point
to do with the resos social,
the internet,
so, what is he
creates the toxicity,
by example,
of this technology
is the technology
or is the way
in our society is structured?
Well,
personally, I think
there's kind of
a part of verity
in the fact of
being terminally online,
to be on Discord
Every Day,
and to look my little pony
on Furchan,
it's a rapport
physically
in how you
live your life
day to day
that's different
than to read
the TV
all the day
or listen
like how it
has an impact
on your psyche
on your
vision of the
world
it's like
we're not
we're not
we're not
the link
that has
the communication
between the
two
but it's
an experience
that's
like
to tell
to
a day
of all
form of
consumption
mediaatic
that you
exactly
but for
that you
to be interested
more
to do that
in the
media
traditional.
And of the
way,
you,
push,
creused,
have some
the people who
the expertise
is uniquely
the culture
numeric.
It's not
for me
that, for
example,
what's
that someone
will be
chronically
online,
will be
absorbed by
his
computer,
it has
all,
it's a
rapport
with,
finally,
the
world in
the world
in the
not just
something
that's
something
that's
all right,
you know,
And all right after that it happened, it's the
course. You can see it on
direct on Twitter. He is like that.
The person who has made this. It's like that. It's
said, he has done it. And there, two years later,
there's a Grey Zone, who
saw an article, Max Blumendale, it's a media in line,
who's called Charlie Kirk
refused Netanyahu funding
offer was frightened by
pro-Israel forces before death
friend reveals.
And Max Blumentel, is a person
Jewish anti-Sionist.
I don't know I'm not
directly in the theories
of the complo
of who he was
but it's just
just for illustri
how the discussion
is to all the
board,
all the
other things.
And this
article revealed
plenty of
things on
the dynamics
internal
that had
at Churning
Point U.S.
the organization
of Charlie Kirk
during the
last year he
had been
face of
a lot of
current
ideological
conservative
of right
even of ultra
right
who thought
that Charlie
Kirk in
fact,
was just a
facade
an image
to present
the movement
conservative in the media, but
that's not really America First.
And it's the real quite,
in fact, the people of
the United, in the case,
it's to prove, in the case, is to prove
that they're in the United
before all, as a priority.
And Charlie Kirk
had, we presented as
the person who
had defended Israel
Kootkegoat,
going to defend Trump,
to not sort
the Epstein Files.
And in live,
in the last month,
we could have Charlie Kirk
who started to nuancey
his positions there
that's who had, at the last conventum of Turning Point USC,
let's Dave Smith and Tucker Carlson
to make these discos.
He questioned in a fashion very frontal,
the control of the lobby
Israeli on their life politic American,
on the choice geopolitics of the United.
It's the things that we'd
not in the circus conservator mainstream
there's even not a year and a
year, there's a year, there's a year,
so it had been a lot of tension,
and a lot of pressure
along this article
on Charlie Kirk
who's been
made of
offered
these enormous
possibilities
of financement
for he
could record
his discourse
in being
really
aligned with
the interests
of Netanyahu
and that
it's already
a other
grand pan
of the internet
that's
in the
sort of
orchestrate
that
or the
government
of
Netanyahu
before I
let you
go I want
you to address
one thing
and it's just
the absurdity
of it
some of the internet rumors that somehow Israel is behind the Charlie Kirk murder.
And, you know, I don't believe it for one second, but I want you to, you know, make a statement.
It's so absurd.
That's insane. That's insane. Israel also changes the orbit of the moon.
Israel pushes the sun.
I mean, the whole thing is it's not only insane.
It's, I think it's so absurd, so stupid.
but it's so ridiculous.
You can't believe that people are saying that...
In fact, what's going to happen
is that when we've discovered
who were the tylerer,
so allegedly Tyler Robinson,
young man,
de vendors'en,
we've all right associated just by
his allure,
so a young man-blan
that we're talking to gamer,
of OWA,
notice bulge, what's this,
we say,
oh, well, it's a grouper.
And then,
it's a phenomenon fascinating.
If I'm not even seen
on Quebec,
maybe the Monday it will arrive,
but we say, oh,
yeah, he's a grouper.
And, again,
there's no confirmation.
The people who do
say, they cite
these tweets,
he cites,
I'm really in the
affair, like,
agnostic.
We can't,
like,
what's what he's
going to be able
to know,
it's like,
you're in
the cland of
brouiard.
It's so,
yeah.
And I think
that it's
apparently like
a position
that,
which,
because,
like,
because your
position
should be
in, like,
what's what you
think,
what you're,
my,
my,
my man,
pro-chchum,
lunatic, and that Catherine Brunet
and all the goschists who
ried to that,
you know, you're not
better than the guy
who he's
literally, and you
want, and you
want, I assist
to the victimization.
All the right
American's so
victimise, it's
like these people
like they want to
do you know?
Alivrimo?
Well, I don't
say that you
have commented?
No, it's a
other affair,
yeah, it's so.
And there,
it's a direct
on Twitter,
the people
start to say,
it's possibly
a grouper.
The gropers,
it's, in
reference to a
meme,
an iteration,
PEP the Frog.
It's like a
grinole, but
in more
gross.
In more
and he makes
a face
me skin.
Restes
the crapo.
The name
the fan base
in fact,
the streamer
commandator
political
of the
American, Nick
Fuentes.
Very young.
Very young,
well,
he started a
bit more
very little,
but he
had started
very young,
he's like
a mid-20th
and he's like
openly
constantly,
at what
Israel,
it's the problem,
at what
he's trying
to be
mischamified,
he has been
debound of
Twitter,
and he
He takes a lot of momentum, not
only on Twitter, but on Instagram,
on TikTok.
You know, he's someone who
do the N-word, like, he's in callous,
he's Latino a little, but he's
completely Caucasian, he's the
blue, he says the N-word
in these videos, the people
think it's funny, they do it
with that, that's, like,
a dude blonde,
maybe, do the N-word,
like, in ryan,
the people do you
have been viral.
You know, he's
in trying to do
do the endjutate meta,
it's, that means
he publish not, but
there's people really
there's really dead,
who publish enormously
of clip of him
on the field algorithmic,
which he does develop a momentum
but without ever really
have a count
with plenty of followers.
The landmain of the
death of Charlie Kirk
there had more
180,000
people on his
live stream
on Rumble,
there's usually
there's like 20,000
maximum on
live stream.
He,
just,
Nick Fuentes,
is someone
that's opposed
to Charlie Kirk
for years.
Ah, yeah,
there's the
Groyipur War.
It's the
first edition
of the Grupper War
it was in
2020.
So,
they're a fringe
of the
right American
who thinks
that the
ecosystem
mediaatic, mainstream, conservator
is not, in fact,
conservator, and in fact,
is only an
facet, an opposition
controlled, because
they're never
talking about the
Israel Lobby,
they're going to
talk about the
Jewish question,
you know, like
the institutions,
the argent,
all they're controlled,
you know, it's like
the theory unified
of the complo,
all what you
think is
that's all right
in the goschise
and all,
it's all,
by Israel,
you see,
that's their
vision of
the world.
You said
that for the
difference
really,
Because that's interesting also
In the media, we're talking about
the online right, the right, the right,
but she has
morseled, there are
some factions different
in the right in line.
When you were on parlay,
you said,
well, he's a Nazi,
in the form.
Basically, he does,
he said, he said
to put to pose the question
frontal,
who you'd let's be president,
your wife,
or Adolf Hitler,
and he said,
Adolf Hitler.
And it's all,
these dog whistle,
the 8,8,
the H.
You, like,
the idea to
play with the
aesthetic
nazi
because it's cool
and edgy
like it's fun
it's
many young
youngs,
14, 15,
16, 17,
17,
18, 15,
20, 21,
jose,
that age that.
And how they
they recruit,
by some
stream,
by really the
clip, in fact.
The people
see this
little kit
black
that's like
in trying to
say the
the most
misogine
and the
most racists
to the
world,
like,
really,
and he thought
it's
like it's
like it
it's like
it's like
it's a
grouper
and it's
And then, and it's
a point
you said
that's the point,
you're trying to
explain to us
explain to us
explain, what
a group?
I thought it was
if it was really
to have said that
there had been
the clip of Radio
Canada
and he would say
to us
have made someone
to us
to us
the groupers
know what we're
doing,
they're doing,
yeah,
there's a
time playing
are really
vulgarizing
that,
and in fact
create
some...
And there's
and many
because I
think that's
really difficult
in the
ecosystem
mediaatic
in line,
is that we're
we're not,
we're in
the niche
with the
way we consume
algorithmically
the content
it's going to
respond to the
person that's
so I think
if I think
if I had
a team
more to form
it would be
it should be
it's really
diversified
and I'm
I'm going to
this article
on the pressons
that Charlie Kirk
received
from the
part of
Netanyahu
directly
but it's
to make
in contrast
with
all the
American
who in the
scenario
that it's a
ghostist
anti-fascist
that's
out with a trance, he has done that for
militia for the left,
to be able to, you know,
it's two things coexist
in this moment,
there's plenty of people
who are people who think,
that's the people who think,
it's at cause of the
government, there's a cause
of all the reason,
and the reality is
that we're not really
the same,
especially, during
Trump and President.
And it's it's
that, with the group
and what's interesting,
is that it's been
several months,
but there had
the first iteration
that had been
against a Ben Shapiro
and other figures
of the right
of mainstream American,
but there literally,
Nick Fuentes
demanded to
to his
partisans
to go to
the turning point
to USC or
Charlie Kirk
like that
in the college
and to
ask you're
to talk about
why you
would not
debate with
Nick Fuentes
because they
they'd
they'd even
not if he
said it's
a troll
and there
there's plenty
of video
you can't
find people
who you
try to
try to
why he
continue to
to ignore
Nick
Fuentes
and then
it was really
he's
opposed
directly
to him
but Nick
Fuentes
is
that during
the
election
he said that he had to vote for Trump
that he would be
worse than Biden
that's like
concerning Israel
Israel would be able to
what they want
you know,
it's a person
really on
his opposition
strong to
but it's
that's a
that's true...
Exactly,
that's so
and at that
he attire
in his giron
of people
who are pro-Palestine
who are
like oh
finally
someone who
tell hit
how it is
and then you
come in
his content
and he is charismatic
and droll
and whatever
and then the
world he
turned finally
by
like Adulah
Adolf Hitler
It's like that the pipeline.
And in fact, Nick Fuentes,
it's really the representation
or the visualization
of this right of Fortunes
in the years
which is like represented
by a streamer.
You know, it's like
rendered so much
and Fortunes is
so much like
full of FED
and now and BOT
I don't know the
place on the internet
where this is that
this current of the internet
is reunned
that in the years
it was on Furchan
it, it was on
H.N.,
it was on KeeeeFarm
it was on Reddit
even at the
beginning 20
but the Reddit
has been completely
clean.
I think the internet
today is more
morseled, as we say,
so more difficult
also, to have
like, for,
let's on a researcher,
or a journalist
even, to have access
to certain spaces
mediatic.
But it's it
more co-morsoled,
and in the fact
that Twitter
is now
that's still
kind of a certain
way, he is also
centralised
that you can
be quite
to be able
to be able to
hear the current
ideological on
Twitter,
at all the
completely
or almost
part of this
environment that.
I hope
that will
have been a
I've read, like,
several commentators,
obviously,
and there's
Katrina who
talk, you know,
like to re-renew
or meme
who are written
on the ball,
but for her,
it's really
these inside
joke,
and it's,
and it's a
word also.
And what's
interesting,
is that,
it's,
it's,
that the
shooting of
mass
in the United
it comes,
or in
any case,
it's not
a bit,
but,
it creates
a lore.
So,
so often,
now,
when we're
when we're
talking about
to try
of mass,
well,
the tuerer
is a fan
of this lore that, it's
a person who knows
his references.
Well,
yeah, it's really
even Alex Bissonette
who had
tried the tour
of the mosque
of Quebec,
he even
had a dula
the person
who had made
the tourie,
I think,
in Norway.
And, you,
it's also,
it's not just
that,
it's just to
get in
the pop culture.
There was
the tour of
Christ Church
who had
said in
his stream
subscribe to
PewDie Pie
and there
also...
PewDie Pi
was the
people, it was
the most
YouTuber
of YouTube.
Yeah,
and there
had an
this kind of campaign for
that's,
like Mr. Beast
had a lot
too much
participate in that
also, and everyone
said all over
subscribe to
Pewipy,
it was like
a meme
in fact,
to say that
or recently
there was in
a rachelors,
the tyreor
had not only
made a
manifesto in
russ,
but he
had filmed
these videos
that had
diffus
on internet
just, you
have
there had
there really
there was
there too
content
to consume
to lore.
But when we
talk to
law, I think
we're also
also of
community.
So,
it's to
to ask
if these
people are
in making
reference
to LOR
in these
community
that's not
a desire
to impression
the people
that we
consoing
as a
member of
our community
to you
see.
I've used
the
Rion
Brulerick
that I
recommend,
I'll put
in the
notes,
but he
will really
talk about
the usage
of the
means in
the violence
political.
He will
remonted just
in 2019
where he
talked about
the attack
of Christ Church
and
like you
did the
the stuer
who said
just before
to
start the
massacre
subscribe to
PewDiePy
and even
Luigi
Manjoni
who had also
engraved
some messages
on
so we
remember
deny
defend
depose
and
like
you say
at Minneapolis
obviously
there had
all sorts
of message
but he
also he
also he had
written
on
his ball
like
what he did
and also
I'm the
worker
baby
why so curious
why so curious
it's a
email
of Joe Crip
And I think that he had even
written
So in his guns
it's written
it's written
Alexander Lepin
the shooter
of the polytechnic
in the case
in a packet
of reference
he not
not plus
he's pronounced
not as
if it's
a groper
he says
he says
he said
maybe
he could
perhaps
have a
connection
with a
special
in his
podcast
which is
called
the 6
764
Terror Cell
which
would
certainly
at the
group
Discord or
the cano
of telegram
who recutry
the young on internet, also on Minecraft and Roblox.
What is interesting, at all over all this,
is to say that, finally, the tury of mass,
or the tury, or the assassinations public,
it becomes a force memetic,
do more, to the United States.
But it's a current memetic in this universe there.
And, you know, there were also,
on Fortune,
me, it's that that he made made
make a crisis of panic.
After, just, the truth of Triarcharch,
the people who comptabilize,
the statistics,
the rendment,
who find a, well, he's position,
there, compared to those other
Tireors of Mass, blah, blah, blah.
You know, all this subculture
of the people that I had read
on the time, it was A. Chan.
I was, I had seen the video,
I had seen all that,
and they'd watch their commentary,
in fact,
in the sort of lor
of the tirers of mass
of Muslims.
So, it was that,
a bit, all over there.
There, there,
there, it's, like,
some classment,
it's legend,
just,
all that's...
But, you know,
when we talk to a meme,
it's not necessarily
a image that's
not necessarily a image that
is really,
it's really,
it's really, it's a
comportment, it's something of cultural
that's not by the
gines, but by limitation.
So, it can be so,
like, the tury, in soot,
deviant a meme.
And, you know, it's just
in the way to find the theory,
it's just to try to understand
what's what you're like,
I'm like, I think,
I'm not at the affair
that we'll arrive with the
definition exact of
what's what you're
saying, you know,
that's the idea, I'm
who I'm trying to
think I'm trying,
maybe with Luigi,
it's, like,
I think there's
kind of a possibility
that's just
these accelerationalists, who
want to advance the downfall
of the civilization the most rapidly
possible. And I think, what I'm
what I think is, there's
there's some, it's like, oh, we'll have
an aflia a little to trance,
we'll all that, just for
like to create the plus of chaos.
The chaos, effectively.
Well, it's that he said,
Ryan Broderick, so he says,
well, is, is it a violence me
and it's a, clearly,
we're like there are certain
children who young
who see the tuery
or the tuway
of the way, to do
public, of the fashion nihilist, this act, that of violence,
like a way to become kaker, you know, to attain a sub form of glower.
And he will talk, just, um, these movements accelerationists,
nihilist, who is deployed in this moment,
in the society, that we cover not enough, I think,
you know, these aspects of philosophies,
notably, who have, often a lot of link with the universe of the tech,
and that they come, a little bit, really, brouye the cards,
Especially for the
people who
adder
to adder
on the
spects
traditional,
it's to say
the right
the right
of the other
now,
the young
extremists
according he
crore in
a binarity
a bit more
simple,
it's to say,
the order
of a bar
and the
chaos of
this,
it's like
this logic
anarchist
and probably
a book
that you
recommend
that Darkne
me
had asked
it's
Pollygram
of the
post
left
of Joshua
Saterela
it's
really
a book
really
it's really
a base
intellectual to
that or like
archivated
in fact of
these discussions
that's on
Instagram,
on Discord,
on Reddit.
I feel like
it's like
a print
on demand
on the men
on Amazon
but I'm
put in
line because
I know
that I see
it's
completely
on line
on line on
on the
website.
Broderick
finished his
text and
he said
and if
you're
you're doing
to pass
to try
to try to
try to
try to
try to
the signification
finally
of act
violent
and
perhaps
that for
just
young of extremists that, partisan
accelerationalist, partisan
of chaos, well, you're
the enemy. Yeah, I'd also mention
the parenthesis of Etty Witch,
because, by the other, I've
talked in the episode precedent.
And in any case, there are many of you
who have invited these messages
by rapport to Etty Witch, because
two years before the assassination,
the magazine in line Jezebel
had published an article that
had for title, we had paid
the Sorciars of Eti
to launch a sword on Charlie Kirk.
Evident, in the fluelly of the assassina,
there were many people who have made
to talk to the famous Etsy Witches.
It was really a hazard,
if I'm talking about the same
past.
Just really, for you
give a little more of context,
effectively,
they've got to buy a sword,
the women
behind this article
in Jezebel.
And for this
fair, they've had
done the date
of the birth
of Charlie Kirk.
The sword,
it was not,
genre,
a button in the face.
But it's
it would say that the
surcerer in
question
they said
that she had
completed the
certilage,
it was successful
and then
she had said
that they
would have
the results
of this
two to three
seven
so you know
and she, you know,
and she
had said also
however,
I did notice
disturbance
negative energy
not only
from you
but projected
at you.
So it's
like if she
had
had sent
finally
the
impact of
this sort
that. Jezebel
very
very much
repented,
they've
suppressed
the article
in question
and they
have made
also a
declaration
public,
they've
said,
we want to
make clear that
we prioritize
an end to
violence over
anyone
wanting to
read about
Etsy witches.
So,
brief,
parenthise
Hetty Witch.
Well,
there would
be plenty
of things
to
say,
there's
there's
probably
point to
point to
point to
point to
traditional, or trugn, you know, there's
a lot of discourse
who responded with
reason, with an episode
editorial of Ezra Klein
in the New York time
who said that Charlie Kirk
who had made the politics
of the good way,
and clearly that no,
but it's been
said, so I think
that the idea
was to say other
things.
It's so,
and we could
probably probably
also, like,
I'd
have a segment
on debate culture
and online engagement
farming,
like, just like
all this culture
that,
which is,
just the
years
with the
debate
bros,
and all of
that,
how,
in fact,
yes,
Charlie Kirk
would go
in the
,
but what's
he resorted
to that?
Is it really
an earnest
exchange?
It's just
the generation
of clip
Viro.
It's not
just
that,
it's like
literally
to propagate
a discourse
that encourage
the
end.
In fact,
it's just
to understand
that the
people,
that have
not too
to talk
that they're not
a good
and that they're
they're in the
person
rational and
, you're
Refleashed, you know, all the
On the Lips
Talk or, like, On the Lips, YouTube
that has been the base of the
Altride Pipeline in the years of 2010, there were
plenty of things to say there. And, I'm
it, it's there that in, that Charlie Kirk
that's inscribed a little
in my head, it's sure that he had
all his recent association
in the Iran, MAGA, where there's has
been a proche confidant of Trump
and the press for not to go
in Iran, you know, like, there was
plenty of things. The same
that we learned, actually, after
after the coup, but I think
Is it going to be interesting to see the development of that?
And maybe we'll re-partly in the cafe snake.
Yeah, honestly, the first thing that I've
felt like I've seen it, when I've seen that,
because I've really the impression
that it will even more fragilize the population trans,
and that it gives a little bit like the excuse
that's willing to certain people
in the United for just to disheenay.
And, you know, we talked, and you, the day
that it's arrived, and we made,
comparisons with the murder of Ferdinand?
Francoe Ferdinand.
Francois Ferdinand,
who has declared the First
War World.
So, is it a
more to finally
de-chain a ton of other
more?
Well, you know,
I said,
the idea that I had
the day of the
same, I said,
like, my God,
it's going to be
the war
civil, but I
think it's just
like,
accelerate
to Chum in
these measures
authoritar
with the
installation of
the Guard
National
in the
cities like
Chicago or
Baltimore,
so I think
he will
utilize all
that for
say that the
States
are
rendered
and that
for repress
all this form
of discourse
as a leftist
lunatics.
But yeah,
it's that.
So it's
it's a
cafe snake.
Wait,
I'm a
recommendation
culturalal.
Yeah,
I recommend
culturally
OD,
it's a
genius.
We're at
all
Fiselle,
by the way,
but
to go,
to listen
the first
episode of
the season
of Fisle,
it's
good,
I'm not
I'm
Commendation Cultural, it's a
game on Roblox. It's, it's
interesting to you adventurer in a
space gen Alpha.
And it's called Montreal
Metro Project. So,
it's still at the state beta.
There's a bug, it's not
totally developed, but it's like
a replica of the metro
of Montreal. You
can't take the metro, conduct
the metro, you're going to
chat with people. It's a
bit bizarre, the Roblox, but I
encourage to, you
sauce their tail just to
to know what
the environment
numeric of the
environment of
the new
and when I
went to visit
the metro
numerical of the
metro numerical of
I'm trying to
get in the
people who
saw people who
did you know
you're both
your bonhom
I'm like
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your name
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