café snake - Enfance sans cell et sans meme [Extrait Patreon]
Episode Date: May 13, 2025Notre Patreon: patreon.com/cafesnakeDaphné examine le métadiscours autour du nouveau plan du ministre de l’Éducation du Québec; qu'est-ce que ça nous dit sur notre rapport aux enfants. Moun...ir documente un courant de pages de memes québécoises sur Instagram.Brendon Mikan vs Dutrizac, Nouveau Pape, Met Gala, Eric Duhaime +++Digi mix Window - Nonamehttps://open.spotify.com/track/0xt2rfiv6qpGYzypG0MziP?si=5a9bdef6ea5341a1Révolution pas tranquille - Kinji00https://open.spotify.com/album/6EEAyBbZomc8EYJdVMeOv6?si=nmmoLHCkRJOzz4qG6uipPg
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I forgot I was watching a North American movie about a bear.
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I don't watch that movie.
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Hello everyone, welcome to Café Snake.
Café Snake!
Yes.
Today it's an episode that's available completely on our Patreon, so it's just an extract
on the free wires.
If you want the full episode, it's on Patreon.
So today, what are you going to talk about, Daphné?
I'm going to examine the meta-discourse around the announcement
of the new plan of the Minister of Education of Quebec
who wants to force the voting and who also plans
the complete ban on cell phones in schools.
I wonder how it teaches us about our relationship with children
as a Quebec society.
And you, where are you from? What are you talking about? I called my segment Memes Renaissance, so I'm going to cover a relatively new
page of memes on Instagram in Quebec, explain a little bit about how it
positions itself in the history of Quebec memes. I'm going to try to do it gently,
I'm not a historian, but just because I find it significant in the expression
of Quebecois culture in Quebec, but also everywhere in the world.
So without further ado...
The DJ News!
Trududu! Fanta, oh Fanta, oh Boudet, gnos, Fanta, nil Boudet, gnos, Fanta, nil
Seypoil, mou, Boudet
Do you have something to say to the camera?
The people are dead, man.
It's mass media, man.
Yo, it's dead on the day that Jesus was resurrected.
Hey, it's not mass media for you, it's the truth, man.
What do you think it means?
Me so happy now, me so Mississippi,
Kiss me till I drown, everybody think they know me.
Don't nobody really know me.
I'm on the road to the show, and I'm just saying, my brother, there's a tower in the capital of Canada. They know me. Don't nobody really know me. I'm in Brazil, I'm Canadian! I'm going to make a fucking revolution!
I hope you understood what I'm saying.
I'm going to shoot you next time.
Do you like gardening? I just love gardening, you know, put my hands into the soil. I just love it. It's good. How about...
So we're going to start the DG News with a situation that happened between the influencer
Brandon Mikan and the radio host Benoît Dutrisac from Cube Radio had a little
skirmish, that's what they say, a little conflict.
A fight.
A fight over the waves.
And I think it still cut off things that I covered in the last episode of
Café Snake, in relation to the media perception of influencers, also the
superiority that certain traditional media give.
But just to put it in context, so Brendan Micard who is an influencer, let's say that he
I imagine he would say lifestyle, but who is a lot in the commentary, who will often make
stories or tiktoks to cover news.
The patting.
Yeah, also the patting.
Especially like the evolution of Pokémon, patting magazines.
Exactly. Yeah, also the Potinage. Especially like the Pokémon evolution of the Potin magazines.
Exactly.
Especially a few years ago, where a lot of his followers on Instagram had him covering
scoops for double occupations.
So he had exclusive information.
He knew which candidate was eliminated, which candidate was going to the finals and everything.
And it generated a lot of commitment to his account.
He even made part of the documentary of Vé Cloutier, the potting machine or the
machine-armor that covered the potting industry and its evolution in Quebec over the years.
So he really is stuck in this position of potty-nerve, of commentator, who commented
the calls for strike by students who are being taken away from their phones.
And it was taken over by Benoît Dutrisac at Cube Radio during his segment at the
morning show of Mario Dumont
and the two became happy to completely roast Brennan Mikan.
Look how he has the big mouth open, look at the voices of the starbucks.
Well, they were also dealing with the skating games.
Exactly, that's it, they were just roasting and they said they were not contributing to society and blah blah blah.
It really gave way to a back and forth between Bren & Mikan and Benoît Dutrisard
who responded by story or radio interposed.
Does it make sure that I deserve to be promoted and that we go on my Instagram
and that we show pictures of like 4, 5, 6 years ago?
These are pre-Covid pictures.
In terms of Meta Discours, I found it interesting because it looked like
some people actually lent themselves to the drama channel.
Exactly.
And the principle of that was to short the commitment with the outrage, the rage bait as they say.
For people who don't know Brennan McCann, I agree with him that the two radio hosts were mean to him.
It wasn't the place to roast the photos he had on the site of his danger, but
Brendan Mikan has been commenting for years.
I find that if we compare the media presence of Cube Radio and Brendan Mikan, they're pretty much at the same level.
I don't think Cube could give Brendan a job, it would be a good match.
So I think it's funny that these two are fighting.
Is it time to listen a little?
Yeah.
Hello Benoit. Hello Mario.
Benoit, it's the revolution.
The young people, the young people in high school
who want to strike because we're going to take away their cell phones.
Listen to this.
The young people have strike.
From next year, the government of Quebec will have to call our professors
and make our phones
illegal at school.
I don't know what you think, but I think it's stupid.
Mr. and Mrs. Government, we have much more serious problems than phones at school.
And by that, I mean Quebec.
So students, on May 9, 2025, we're on strike.
Let's show Mr. Government that we're serious about our country.
Ok, yeah, I just wanted to make a comment. Maybe Mr. Government or Mr. Madam Government is
an expression that will stay in the speech.
Maybe, but that's it because this segment cuts a little with the speech, with the segment
that you were going to do earlier. But I was going to comment maybe not in your segment,
but this dude who made this video, it's unhappy sad but I think the message is perfect.
I think he accomplished what he wanted to do.
It's a good communication exercise.
Exactly.
It's a bit too much of a cringe video.
I feel like there's a bit of intentionality behind it.
Honestly, it doesn't cut my subject at all.
Is it okay if you talk about it?
No, because when I saw the video, I was like,
Poor guy, it's so cringe that it's perfect.
And I think he knew.
I have the impression that he knew that this video was cringe when he did it.
And that's how I see marketing, irony, and everything.
I have the impression that...
You know, the Mr. and Mrs. Government is like...
It's Ragebait. He's a musical genius!
When I saw him, that's what I got from this video.
They edit AI of him crying.
There are a lot of adults laughing at him.
I think it's an incredible media performance.
But the reception of these clips is also revealing.
Yes.
Ok, let's continue.
Yes, in the second half.
It's funny to see his hair frizzed like that.
It's cute.
Not a strike to have complete proof.
Fucking, Bernard Troussac who talks about his hair, bro, you're bald.
You got baldness.
Well, that's it, I think that through that there is a kind of dialogue
at the level of envy, jealousy, a loss of power, I don't know.
The other interesting thing in this story is in the article, I'm going to see who it is, the one who supports this strike.
His name is Brandon Mican.
That's a influencer. You know, the insinuers, this is one of them.
He's 24 years old.
And he, at 24, he supports young people
during the strike.
Brandon McCann is an influencer.
Look at him.
He's doing his best.
They're referencing an article.
We should see what article
they're referencing.
They're starting to release pictures from the Dulles-Chedoux site, which is Brandon Mikan's agency.
I think he is 10 years old because of his age on this site.
Brandon Mikan, at 28, is a surger who was badly cited for his age.
And now what he does in the photo, he takes the open mouth, he eats and he drinks.
That's all he does.
He's an influencer. If the young people have no salt left anymore, do you think the first ones losing are the influencers?
Exactly.
I think it highlights the disconnection. Because first, Brennan McCann's story is not about 15-16 year olds.
I know it because I understand how the demographics are on the internet.
Brennan McCann's main audience is 30-year-old women or 27-year-old women.
That's his main audience.
Maybe five years ago, there were young people who listened to it,
but now I tell you, when they cross subscribers, they cross in clubs and bars,
they don't cross like in pole bars.
I just want to point out the fact that this discourse denigrating to influencers
that we often hear in the media that are more institutional.
For me, it actually betrays a fear.
It betrays the fact that these people
feel threatened in the position they occupy, the symbolic power, the influence even they
have, it seems they lose part of their influence, finally. And when we devalue the other to
better rise, and that's what I see, why want to distance ourselves from these media
actions that I find look a lot like them.
For me, it betrays an anxiety that would be the wait.
In fact, it's the confusion between these two roles.
I think that the role of Trissac or Mario Dumont
tends to resemble that of Brandon Mican and vice versa.
It's as if the differences between them were gradually disappearing.
From there, this idea of shit on it.
He's going to push his camelote.
He's talking about Starbucks on his website.
Well, yes, Brandon, you drink a cocktail.
An apérolis spread, that's fashion.
My God, that's important for the education of our children.
Brandon, Mikannn, that's... Look, I'm our children. Brandon Micand, that's...
Look, I'm going to eat, I'm going to shave my face, are you happy to see me?
Why are people interested in...
People don't see the table, but it's a big meal, he's 9 for 16 and he's alone at the table.
A tortilla, then some pig, then...
Oh, and then I put my stepping up with Starbucks. Just to say that the level of content they're producing is maybe equal to that of B&B or
of Mikan, otherwise even less good quality.
Less good quality because it's like...
There's no... it's insipid.
If I say it's stupid, he's on screen share on Zoom.
They didn't even pre-selected the stuff.
They fall on stuff they didn't even see.
So they react directly.
And you know,
I love that they treat it as insignificant.
And they invite later, even in the video,
the influencers,
or I think it's in his video response,
they invite the influencers to
become aware, to get involved in their society.
As if what they were doing
was giving service was serving society.
Yeah, yeah, no, no, but it's because, you know, there's this wave of influencers who say,
you know, content producers, I was saying, what is your content? Do you know what it is to be bought?
Do you know what it is to be bought in life? I've always refused to be offered tickets, wine glasses.
I've always refused because I tell myself that my reputation is better than that.
It's not worth it to attach myself to something or someone for some profit.
It's a weird concept, the content creator, because you really have people who are going, I don't know, me. Okay, so that's just in the excerpt, we hear them say,
do you know what it is to be bought? And for them, the definition of being
an influencer, a content creator, is to be bought. And I know that in the
previous episode, I talked about a kind of underlying discourse that was not
explicit, but really implicit when we were talking about influencers. I said that
one, it was a woman who was feminized,
so there was often an implicitly sexist discourse,
but also a discourse that was puto-phobic.
So there we have this idea again of you sell your body a little,
you sell your soul.
There is really this idea of you being sold,
whereas in any job,
employee, paid, that's what we do.
We sell our time for money under capitalism.
And I think that Bernard Dutreszak has illustrated the thought process of a big part of the population.
But there is no analysis and no understanding.
He tells us that he does not accept ads, that he does not accept the tickets, the paid nights, the brands, blah blah blah.
But on the one hand, he is paid by Quebecois.
So already, he is completely...
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