café snake - Faux likes, vrai brownies

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

Mounir revient sur le meltdown du PLQ et Daphné revient peut-être pour la dernière fois sur les tradwifes comme produit médiatique. Aussi : Une fausse manif gen z au Mexique, des robots engagés pour liker une publication du ministre Roberge, la kirkification serait-elle un crypto scheme? Mamdani rencontre Trump.NotesPour nous envoyer vos contributions, c’est via le compte Instagram de Mounir, ou encore ici : [e-mail] astroturfed au MexiqueRight-wingers faked a "One Piece" revolution in Mexico, Ryan Broderick, Garbage Day,https://www.garbageday.email/p/right-wingers-faked-a-one-piece-revolution-in-mexicoFaux likes pour la CAQ?« Ce n’est pas une anomalie » – Réactions suspectes sur une publication du ministre de l’Immigratio, Aya Boucenna, La converse, https://www.laconverse.com/articles/ce-nest-pas-une-anomalie---reactions-suspectes-sur-une-publication-du-ministre-de-limmigrationQui étaient vraiment les tradwifes?The Trad Movement Is Sputtering. Here’s What Comes Next, Katerine Dee, GQ, https://www.gq.com/story/trad-movement-sputteringRecommandation pour consulter les Epstein files :https://jmail.world/

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be more to talk the meldown of the party liberal of Quebec. To what do you do you want to talk about? No, my

segment is inspired of an article in DQ of Kattrindee so I've made a return on the

Trad Wife we could say the title we'd have the title, who were the really the Trad Wife

and it had been a couple of a year about a couple of a cafe Snake it's an episode

an episode that's an aesthetic tradwife Blue Ciel Yeah, yeah, a classic. It's so. It's more tardy.

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that pille impunement Our images, our portfolios, for nourir and entrain their monster. So, at least 120 people have been injured in protests across Mexico. So, first Disney News, I wanted to something that I've seen in an infoletre that, that I'm Garbage Day, of Ryan Broderick, who'd face it in fact of people who are part of the right to Mexico who have decided to fake a one-one-iteration of the manifestations of Genzi

that we've seen be deployed this year, in a fashion a little decentralized, a little everywhere in the world. So we had talked of that already in Cafesnec, more particularly the kind of revolution that's happened to Nepal,

which was men who had been made by the Jensi. But there also had some manifestations in Philippines, at Madagascar, or Peru. It's these movements

that are pretty progressist, I'd say. It's sure that I mentioned in the article that I've read, but, but, unfortunately, it's paywall,

so it's an infolette to which I'm I'm subscribed. It's not easy of access. It's called Right Winners Faked a One Piece Revolution in Mexico.

So, it's so, it's at the weekend, not the last one of past, but the other of before, so

15, 16, November. The media international have relayed the new like the Generation

Z mened were in the manifestations to Mexico, notaman before the

Palacio National for protested against the corruption in the country. It's

It's true, the manifestants, there had these banners, Genese, he'd be vindicated really of the Genzy. And the full agitated also the famous drapeau of Pirate with

a chapo of pie which comes of One Piece, a manga, which is really popular, which is, I think,

is available on Netflix, so he's a kind of symbol of official in these maniflet that are

menfellas that's made by the Genzy, even what is appeared in the manifestations

anti-ice in the United. Selon Ryan Browdrich, it's a little like it's

become the mask anonymous of the generation Z. I've got it's the

good parallel. And, and it's often anti-imperialist it's against the imperialism what's

what's the series One Piece it's a music of class, you're like you've

you've seen one piece I've seen few episodes but it's more to listen if you're

to listen to you're just a commitment I'm not sure if I'm ready to be

I'm trying look at the tram narrative that's offered in the media traditional, notably Radio Can in English, the BBC also.

So, by example, on Radio Can on titrepe, I've read rapidly the title, The Manifestant Anti-Govendmento affront the police

anti-emerged at Mexico during an Rassemblement Mened by the Generation Zen. But for it's so

branding of Genzi, even the first that it hit, I think it's a hit It's so much, in fact, I think it's fake. Next, the subtitle can't seem the doubt. So, we say,

the president, Claudia Schenbaum, accuse, finally, the right of having infiltrated the movement. We let's plan the doubt, but all right after, we'll reaffirm the fact that it's really the Genzi who men these maniflew.

We say that it's been principally organized by the Genzy, and then we make the link, just, with the other manifestations that have been organized, Sanizier this year, notably on Nepal,

then we say to Mexico, and of many young are frustrated by these problems systemical like the

corruption and the impunity for the crime violent. Even sound of closh in Rooters, the agency

of press, so their grand tit to them, it's, these manifestations inspired of the

Generation Z, so propage to Mexico alimented by the murder of a mayor,

and all soon after, we say, that, it's that, it's that, that, a group

so say-as-a-generation-Z-Mexic, called to manifest, to declare even in a manifest diffused on the social, that he was apolitic and

represented the genus Mexican, laced by the violence, the corruption, and the abuse of power. The problem,

is that when you go the video, actually, which is posted on this article, you know,

you know, they're not the Jensi, it's the years of 30, 40, 50, 50 years.

What is more incredible, and there, it's more in the article, of the journalist independent Ryan Broderick that I've got

not on Radio Canada or on Rooters or on the site of the BBC is that part of the people that had the ancient

president of Mexico so a view businessman of right Vincente Fox Kisada who

had a t-shirt of One Piece There's a comment on Twitter that says Syriyan no symbolismew the rebellion Organic of the young that the ancient president of Mexico

pretendant to be a revolutionaire of the Generation Z fan of One Piece. In the fact, it's millennial protest. Well, well, more view than that, I'd say, and, in a way, it's perhaps not necessarily

an affair of age more than ideology and of power. But, certainly, it's an affair of opposition, because who is in present in Mexico,

it's like, a woman? A woman. A woman of a ghost. A Jewel, also. And, just, Manifestants who have been photographed

and that's just in the article that I read of Ryan Broderick, he ported also not just these chandie of One Piece, these t-shirt arborant, the Croix Gamme.

Yeah, and they tagged also Puttadjudia, so Pudjew on the port of the Palatio National. So, there's clearly an orientation

anti-Semit of the rights. The manifestations also have been super violent. There had been there were some arrestations, the police

blessed, and is that it really a movement organic, which is grassroot, as we say in English, is popular, is it's part of

the people? In fact, according the article of Garbage Day, it's rather an case of astro-turfing. So, we've often talked in

Cafe Snake. The Astro-Turfing is all the species of strategies, it can be strategies mediatic that tend to simulate,

just a movement popular, a movement grassroots that would be spontaneous, and in fact, it's dissimule these motivations, the commanditre or, finally,

these structures of power that, that manipulate all the fill of this... You're trying to control the narrative, control the attention of the people,

make in sign an argument algorithm algorithmic organic? It's so, and, along the research just done by

the journalists Mexican, it's a much more probable that it's not grassroots, but that All this affair that has been

mounted of piece by the chief of enterprise Mexican of the right. There's it's quite quite

quite quite quite you know, but we're talking, by example, Carlos Augusto Jimenez Zarate, who is an engineer to donate,

a researcher, who really, you know, analysed how this movement that's been propagated, d'abour

in line. And the hashtag also, that was used, the hashtag principal, which was Marcia National,

that generated a million of interactions on X, but who functioned along really a scheme clear,

where 50 percent of the hashtag prevened of the country, so not Mexican, and

50% of the rest were reparty with the militants international of the rights and

these countries that were associated to an kind of a set of right called

Red de Salinas Pliego who has parted or in this case who is

a report to a man of Affair who's called Ricardo Salinas Pliego,

a man of affairs libertarian. You're going to be deep in the law there. Well,

I mean, it's not me that's there's there's there's people who don't

have the parrace of Routers or of CBC or of BBC or you know so, so

he's a man of an man of libertarian who control several companies of telecommunications

just Mexican and who has already been in the campaign of astroturfing in the

past, so it's not a thing that's new. And, just there there are even these

journalists who are retraceed you know the end of the beginning, the

movement and how it's deployed, and it started the 3 October,

there a media that part to that libertarian and published

an history that said that, well, the youngness Mexican

joaned joined just this kind of movement Jendi anti-corruption

and this this story that has been reprised by an influenceer like quote

and quote apolitic which by the next it's revealed to have been paid and after that

his post to this influencer that he's made to make to make partaged by the

man of affairs in question so salinas and go this post that has been discussed

in a podcast all what's all the post of the influence of the podcast

whatever there are 200 count TikTok and 400 community Facebook

who have made immediately to promote the showture. It's a lot of

that's not but I can't think that in the articles of Routers or CBC it's just the president

that would like that Yeah, like, some of the kind of there's not,

in the article in the article in it's not it's pro, preche often for

often, I don't know, but for an education numeric or do much a literacy

numeric, and something that is really at opposed of the message that we often

in the media institutional who are the rampart of the reality, we have these sources sure, we adder

to a sort of code of conduct, and the rest that's all you find out of you know what you know

I think for me the literacy numeric it's implic by example to understand what the AstroTurfing

and how it can be deployed, it's what the techniques because often it's just not

a little pirate isolated that it's astro turf it's these institutions And it can be these institutions

mediatics. I think the institutions mediatics are often the first to be in the piage of the

AstroTurfing to simply relayed of the facts without to do the effort to creus more or

without analysis critical. So we have amplified these messages that's mostly with,

I've got a podcast that's the new format, let's the new in direct

at the TV to the United, they use they use they're they're

so Twitter to feed their content. I think they're in direct, a broadcast of CNN or the Fox News, they're there at React

in live at these tweets of Trump, these tweets of other people. And it's like if, in the front, especially in the United I'm talking, there's a comparison, it's like if it's been a reaction channel, in fact, it's like CNN, and they're there in trying to pull up

these tweets, pull up, these clips of interview, and the world discuss. It's like, it's been, this idea, justly, to sort of a story, break the news,

it's like, the journalism of enquette, it's a time to do, You know, it's that also. The time, it's the large, you know, we see, we see, it's just,

me, it's the narrative to say, well, the sole source who are liable, or the only information that are liable are present in

the media traditional, it's false, and it's not like that we're going to be sensibis the people, and the

disinformation, it's often the panage of the grand media that of any people that, you, it's,

and I think, to have a real literacy media, in the media numeric, all these strategies,

these terms, there, you need to learn, it's concretely have these examples, and it's really exercise our judgment at all moment

before all sorts of content, that it comes of Radio Canada or that come to, I see not, the cafe snake.

Yeah, exact. In fact, I'm just revenue on my segment in fact, the week

on the curcification, it's a term now, this phenomenon mimetic that had arrived the course

of the last time, where is we transformed all photo in being a photo of Charlie Kirk of the moments

historic, of the poachette of album. One or one Cafe Snakers who made an video of the

epimology nerd that we've quite said a couple of a couple of in a cafe speak. Yeah, I

like an etymology he's a old, I think that's like 23 years,

he came on a old go speak. He has discovered that all this tendance

of Kirkification or Kirkof a photo provened on Instagram the first participants this tendency

that, these contes that have been created by people who have created

these crypto monet with Solona who are at the effigy

Kirk and he detailed the graphic to see that the

during the turn of Kirkification had had pre the

em the queen had had pre of so yeah

it's that the mime devian a way to see

and is we could not can't think that this

mimification of Kirk is a also astro Turfay?

Well, it's that. She's like, she has not, I'd say it's not, I'd don't, I'd don't know how

I'm going to because I think the engagement that's real, it's just, it's just, you have used the clickbait, the mimes

were really being used to rejoin an audience, you know, because I see that, I think there's like an thin line

between, like, the arsroterfing and just the anguument organic, but orchestrated, you know, the generation

of virality, with several tentative. But if there there are some kind of create a monies that, or

liy, for example, a new expression in vogue, but they have all interest to that be more popular than ever, you know? In fact, in his video, Etimology Neer said that, yes, this trend has contributed to

give the value to these crypto monies, he identifies the count Kirk Terminal, as being the count instiator of this tendency that, and

then he part, and I'm still with him, in the analysis of the video, I'm put an ex- thing you have to understand about the

Kirkification memes or the Kirkkinator memes or the slang phrase getting Kirk for getting head is that these didn't happen naturally. Instead, there are people with vested interest in getting us to talk about Charlie Kirk right now. You see, immediately after Charlie Kirk got shot in September 10th, multiple people registered new crypto coins containing some part of his name. These coins literally go up in value the more we talk about Charlie Kirk because they represent a fractional portion of our attention which can be converted into crypto sales. For example, the owner of the Kirkinator coin on Solana

was the first to make the Kirkinator memes, which you may have seen on Instagram, and he intentionally made these as racist and inappropriate as possible to get attention. Next, as the meme picked up traction on other platforms, the value of the associated crypto coin directly went up, meaning that the discourse on social media helped this guy profit from being racist. At the same time, this other Kirkify coin has experienced sustained value throughout November as we keep face-wapping Charlie Kirk onto different people's bodies. All the while, this directly feeds into the all-right pipeline. My fellow linguistics creator, Zay, did a fantastic investigation into how interacting with these videos pushes other extreme content onto your For You page. We need to constantly remember

that any time we give attention to something stupid, it both makes our experience online worse and becomes profitable for sleazy people trying to manipulate us. That, by example, interact with videos or these memes that make Charlie Kirk on the highlight of LeBron James appare like insignificant, but this genre of movement

mimetic, and it's a bit that I'm talking to that's a little bit of that you know, it gives some point to your algorithm that, what's going to be it's recommended, but if you interact with

this kind of meme that, but maybe that the video two, three videos later, it will be a video of Nick Fuentes, interact with the content that makes in scene the characters of the

right or the extreme broad American, but it gives some Q to your algorithm in fact that makes it in short that it's it's... But it's...

It's... It's... It's... ...that's... ...that's... sanctification of Charlie Kirk that it has been

for certain in the case, not, so... So, so, I... I'll make your video in the description, and I just re-revenue...

You know, it's... It's recouped with many of things we've talked in the cafe snake of all the Mimcoin, economy, and

how, you know, like, you know, that had to start a meme coin, maybe, who had had done... Well, it's, perhaps that someone will have an idea and it's going to happen.

So, I mean, I wanted also talking about metadiscourt, and of AstroTurfing, yeah, I wanted to talk that I've seen in the converse, so a media independent, Ibeco, it's an article written by Aya Bousenna called, It's Not an anomaly

reaction-suspect on a publication of the Minister of Immigration. So, again, that, it's a tombe in the use of brouiage of lecture of opinion

citizen. We're like not sure if we're really the whole of people it has a link

with the literacy numeric in a recent Facebook of the minister of the minister of

Quebec Jean Francho Reberge that I by the way, I've already

I've got to come because it's also an a writer imagine to don't,

he had written he had been an writing not for adolescent John?

No, but it's the history like an pirate who a life, an espouse of love

is a little erotic there's a it's a one piece yeah, in the phone. In other case in fact, he has published

something on his Facebook that was in link with the new measures related to the immigration so the abolition

the suppression of the program of the experience Quebeco and that's kind of a measure

that's not super popular and then all of a publication has generated a volume really inabitual

of likes or I like, I'm I'm going to see, it's like 17,000 so 17,000 like the post of Roberge?

Yeah. It's a video or a photo? No, it's like a carousel. 17,000 like? Yeah, I'm just,

you're like, I'm like to doubt no, no, I'm just see it. Yeah, a proportion quite

gross of these reactions that that come to count who are like, in Pakistan,

in Indonesia, and in other countries, so it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like

it's it's like it's it's like the people they're doing they're doing they're like they're

like they're like a little that's that's not that they're not really so, so the question

so is is it is a focont of the butts because it has been there's

okay I just I just get to get to looked the number like

we can't look oh my oh my God scandal so it's it's

it's of amplification artificial, like the article mentioned. And, in the comments

under the post, it's not that the first, the first of the people are you see, you know, I'm going to

say, you know, that you're also popular in Asia, Mr. the minister, ha, ha, we,

the students on Quebec, we'd like the same level of attention. You know, the general,

that's not normal. But, you know, what's what's the thing is when I was when I was

discovered an application for the full like, it's it's a like for like, and the people who did it, you downloaded the application, you connect your

account to the application, and you'd like, like, like, 200 photos. With that, you had enough credit for, like, envoy to, like, on those photos, you could, like, like, you could, like your friend? Boom, he posts a photo, and you'd envos a photo, and you're like, like, and he's like, like, and, you know, what the fuck? Why, you know, you can't, you know, the conversation, is, you know, and then, contact the government, the minister in question, to know, have you asked these likes. I don't think if they've done it, they

will tell them, but it would be that it's not someone else who has chained the minister, Reberge, but it's a little bit, it's risible, what. It's a fide, and I think, and I think, for me, it's just the stress on the Sunday of a government risible, of politics, risible,

and just in his publication, I've taken the time to read, you know, he will mention, for example, that, contrary to what we've heard in the media, the demands that had been received for this program will continue to be treated. But, if you go, in the comments,

the people who are actually who are actually on ballotage who have lived with all these this kind of uncertainty who have attended because the, in fact, the program, it's like more

that's suspended. So, dot, dot, they know what's what that happens. And then, boom, the epit damoclasts just came to be able, he has not to close grandpair.

So how you can treat these demands who have been received if, in the fact, it's a year that you can't even not have been in envoyed.

It's like these people, the ministers of the CAQ, it's these porpoor of decisions political,

but they're like ignorant of the real mechanisms concrete that's what I mean, it's really the technocracy,

and my father said all that that Fransso Lugo, he said not how the system

of immigration function. You know, it's, it's, I'm too, the P.E. I've seen

intimately someone who had used his residence permanent. When I was young, I had 23 years, I had a job American. And he had made his back in history

at Concordia, so he had studied three years, he had applied the French, he talked very, very well, the French. And then, you have to travel for two years, like, after your studies, for power to apply. It's so, because these people that

who were ready to make their demand, in the fact, they're all those people who are people, because you can't do your demand if you not French. It's already these people who are integrated. It's it's been

long time they've been used they've already deborsed these sums to study because the tariff or in the

case, it's the affair with the immigration live, it's humblement Montaik the CAC has no leverage

so they take on the movey levy, the affair that the Quebec can't change,

it's all that Ottawa control, and it's there, I'm Montek Real Talk, the deal

in Café Stain, look the graphic of immigrants that's from the COVID to Quebec and to Canada, it's just

it'll have no rapport generally the government liberal has been similar the growthance economic in augmenting the number of people to pallier to

who have massively injected the money during the pandemic what has made the growth economic, there's more people that's like

backfire, all the palates the government they recognize the left, the right, even Quebec Solidair

has said live that, okay, we'd have we need a discussion on the immigration. What I'm shock,

it's really the idea that the immigrants it's become an estes of the type of turk all the problems social, we may that on their do wad of fuck

for me at the cac it's all these clunes there's okay so I want to talk, our live stream preferry

it's the mis-en scenes that are at the bureau oval of Donald Trump this week he has received

Zoran Mamdani so the mayor elues to New York for doing a show up which was kind of bizarre

we can, you know, we can already analyze the positionment. When Donald Trump resoes, they're on the divan on the divaned on the divan proche up,

it's to say Donald sat at the table and Zoran debuacote. That's a cue very important. It's, already in the positionment

it all the air of some assistant, it's he's actually who's asked to be able to try to establish a dominance, but it's Zoran

who on sort completely, in my the view vinciar of this exchange that, because I think But you know in the orientation

of the corps that it obliges Trump to look at the up, with a certain admiration. It's so.

And I think that this moment that, you know, I'm, you know, I'm trying to see, I'm really

in a space of detachment of genre, I just just joined a clip. Are you affirming

that you think President Trump is a fascist? I've spoken about that's okay,

you can just say, yes. Okay. It's easier It's easier than explaining it I don't mind. You know, we're a

journalist who said to Zoran Mandani, you had said that Donald Trump was a fascist? What's what you think? Is it really

a fascist? And then, he's apparently far for talking, he would detourne a affair, like,

yeah, I did that, but more the importance, it's the affordability for the people for the people

for the people and say, hey, hey, hey, And it's clear. And just before that,

this is the clip that we see Donald Trump who said, you said that's a communist, is what you know,

and Donald Trump is like, oh, well, for the real, I think he will be good for the

people in New York and he will surprise the republicans. So it's like if it is like difficult

to explain to why Trump would suddenly decided it's what that's what he's

there's there's plenty of theory oh yeah Trump am the clout, Trump

like the charism and the success. And it's for that he loves Zoran. And it's like, I think this explanation can't even illimited, like I'm, like, I'm a socialite

of New York he gravite towards the people who have the swag and the success. Two adversaries political, but you're made

in a piece before the journalists, and then suddenly it's like all what's all the whole, literally Trump who says that's a

jihadist who will impose the chari, there even not a week or two. There you they make in

the same piece, And it's like if all of that had been existed. How it was freeming, the day that

it had been going to do make a visit to the house blanche, it's like, okay, is they

they're going let's come out of this new format of live stream that we've commented with

Zelenski, that we had commented with Karni, you know, it's like a staple of the

Donald Trump. And that I think that really interesting to observe because it's like it's like,

it becomes the event televisual and the journalists and the media they attend

that. It's a new format if it had not had been if there's a kind of callback at the final of OD

that's arrived then we're not used our live stream so I think it's the quality also to be in direct where is

that all we announce the Gagnon DoD not direct and video pre-enregistry I think we're really at this air

that do live-streaming and it's like in this case there also the stakes as we can the risk

is more So it's great. So, whatever can arrive, finally. It creates a rendezvous TV-visual at a time where there's not of a rendezvous TV visual.

The Internet loves watching Mormon Tradwives baking bread while wearing beautiful sun dresses. I've always always in general in our marriage.

Being a Tradwife isn't just about wearing sun dresses and making sourdough all day. I'm looking for a Tradwife, sourdough, homestit,

crunchy, eats meat, butter. My segment that I called, who had really the trad wife, so I've gone on an article that I read in JQU that I've really made that in the notes,

obviously. It's of Catherine D that I cite often, and the title of the article is the trad movement is pottering. The movement trade

is in perverse of the speed, here's what you will be so what's going to see that emerge a pain a few months

after that the tradwife, the phenomenon of TradWife, had passed to everyone and people and in fact it's something

that's a long certain analysts of the internet would be in a bit of a bit of At his

peak when toot we've talked about two years before, so Catherine did,

she did like the genealogy of the movement so she will visit the years 20th

she said she said that for to understand the movement tradwife you have to understand

what is that is that if these women or in this phenomenon that

reactists and she talked the who had been the decade of the Girl Bus, and he said, well, you know, the girl bus or the idea that we'd

have been able to maybe a construction mediatic more than a person real, construction composite of TED Talks, of pub Carousel,

Instagram, or even, I, I, I think to the book Lenin Feminism. So, it's a vision of the feminism

that had been popularized by Cheryl Sandberg, so, dirgant at the time of META Facebook, who had

published a leave, it's that, the lean-in woman work and the will to lead in 2013, so directly in the years of

girls bus. And it proposed to do you know their place in the middle of the space that

were traditionally masculine, to be they themselves they're really a schema to empowerment but very

individual. It pushed just those women, sometimes these women like, access to

the position to power. So, it's a bit the idea to adopt the tools of

mehre, at the way to to take to the master or even to the system,

you know, and pose the system, it's the thing, she's that she said, she said,

she said, she said, that the girl bust had had been a meme of the

past, or it's like, past date, then the new tendency,

it's more to venerer the ambition, but it was just to just to

to be chapped to this logic that, so there all the species tendency

of lazy girl. I the woman goblins who bed rot so that's maybe I'm I'd like a

goblin who passed a lot of a lot of then after a space to resack to the

woman the bridewife the woman traditional who according in her

never really had never really had been anti-conformism even if she she had been

to be like a bit a figure of a figure of contra culture or

counter the espest of incaration feminine mainstream because, of one

their rebellion had to have to sense in the middle it's

a provocation designed to liberals so the libs as we

say those US If I I came on my

question initial in my title if it was if we're if it's

it's a provocation to lib lives is could not say

that the tradwife it was in fact a rage bait

well I If we consider the rage bait like a tactic mediatic, so the appell at the rage, we've found

a other word also at a moment to get chie tacky-chie it's true. It's our neologism. It's kind of

a tactic mediatic that will incite to incite to the engagement so it could have to say that

the sense that the trade-wife have suited a lot of engagement, there had a

there had been an media, you know, even here, we've finished by all all people

on part, but on these gross tete of affix to the Narah Smith or the

Ballerina Farm, which I've talked about more emerge of the new heads on the

social. Yeah, you've got to Mormon Real Housewife. Yeah, no,

but, you don't, I think, there, we're really about the phenomenon tradwife,

and I think that I want to don't know that you know a monted that you're

even, you have often talking. You know, you're talking the product mediatics. Exactly. What we call Tradwife. And then, Catherine

he will even talk to that in time idea mimetic. It could be even a meme. What's the trade wife finally? An idea mimetic that was in part visual, in part political, in part of the value, so value moral, for example, who has found his public. It's not

necessarily the expression of a veritable mode of life. And that I had talked in, justly, the episode of Esthetic, Tradwive, Blue, Blue, year, because yes, the conservatism is in

house, but this idea of tradwive, of women with a tableier that rest at the house,

with, who cue the pockrette, these ears, et cetera, but it's really a phantasm

because it's not realist in the conjuncture economic actual, and not only that,

but it's never really really been realist, in fact, this idea, to have, let's,

let's, a breadwinner, like, the man rapporte the the black at the

I have talked. This idea to live with a single revenue generally, it's an

anomaly historic. And it's been possible really in a period very precise, a context

economic precinct that has dured a few years during the after war, around from the

1945 to 1975 and the 30 glorious. Exactly, so a boom economic and all

a democracy. Yeah, yeah, that's permit that, but it's 30 You've got to finish

by the nascence of the walkism in May 68 Okay, thank you, Mourke, there's something to say

there's something to really the contra culture, like the image of the contra culture that's made the years

60, but it's been very rapidly recupered by the capitalism and the system. So,

so at the part of the years 60, is we can't say really that the

contra culture exists if it constantly recuperate? In the case, I devied

really of my subject, I re-revee. If we we're thinking, you know, the poster girl of the trad wife, you know, like the figures the most celibre the ballerina farm, Nara Smith, it's really these simulac, we're

we want a rive, it's a set of valor, but the two women are these business women, it's some business to her own, it's these images of mark, and there, she'll do herself, Catherine said in her article, so the trad wife, she has always

been, in fact, not only a rave, a chimera, but a model commercial. It goes more long, it will say, a other factor of differentiation in a market saturated

of content. And that, I think it's really interesting, because they card really the phenomenon of the trad wife like something

that can't be an door of the context numeric, and in the door, even more particularly of the creation

of content. I think it's two analysis different, you have like the ported justly mediaatic

of all that and the people who adopt really this voluntary to be in the way

to be in a woman to say, I mean to say it's something that's a possible.

And you know, even in the case of Ballorina Farm and even she says she works

she works on some site internet and all she's a millionaire. Well,

there's two examples there, but there other women who do they do they're

doing the live on TikTok and they're not in the carcature of

the cuisine and the children, but that they have an man rich who finance their mode of life, and they're just what they want, and they're going to want to be in the trad wife.

I'm not the aesthetic. I'm talking, but it's that, the construction mediatic, to what we think, when we talk about when we think, it's a strategy of differentiation in a

market of creation of content where we're bombarded of content, and it's a way to differentiate, and you say, I'm, I'm create the content. There's plenty of

mamma or of women who are, first blogger, it was these women who posted by their life of their

habits of consumption all that, and in a market very competitiveive where there's many people how to

differentiate, how to brandy? Selon me, in the case, along this article, and I think that I

adder at his point of view, the Latradwife, as we have talked

in the two last years is an image mediaatic before to be

a movement. It's an image mediatic, an aesthetic even, before to

be a real way, you know, a real mode of life. I think it's when you in too deep

in the media consumption. See, a example. You know, the girl Sandy, that has

made the little of the blonde, she was she was trying a chum on TikTok she had

us did date, date review, and she did it during a day, she got

this guy, this guy, that got got got to date a player of football, she goes

to church, M.S. Outfit, she's just of her chum she's like she's like

she's like she's like she the conservative the conservatism the Christian Mammoth that's all the things that

exist which we can talk about but like you talk about like the iconic we're taxed to tradwife

when we're talking about of movement of trade wife it's very related to an aesthetic to a way

to say to be to present I'm I'm all there's there's a there's a

content like that there a mountain just of conservatism, of the religion, and I'm

also on TikTok, it's not that don't you don't necessarily But if it's because the two are mixed, because let's

the girl she's going to her at all my apart, is all right with some of them that they're just,

well I'm just, well, I'm just, well, is she really pose the question, what's the

question, what's not sure, you know, in my articles, do you know, on the culture

web, I'm, they're analyzed as like the phenomena media, so,

In brief, Narasmit, she's very concerned of the fact that it's a construction mediatique, and she's she's used with that in her

time in their rob of gala for to make her food, it's cheeky a little. I can't return to two women, the

Ballorina Farm, she has an exploitation agricultural of dollars in Utah, she vans, all sorts of

things, the aground, the kit of levin, the couto a pin, it's an company,

it's a brand, Narah Smith, even a fair, I think there have some but she's she's also two mannequin

of the top model many people who are these images of mark that's not their resonance on the plan

cultural or political, they're really, they're not these women they're not they're like they're

like they're like they're like, they're not sure that the consumers they partages so easily

that, the phantasme that's been the fact that's the fact that or a construction mediatic

because, for example, I'm at the Balauna Farm, it's my sister Jimel that's a little bit of she had two

women, and she had come on her and it's like I don't know how this girl, she'll arrive

to have like seven eight children, and have always like super belle, even with a bit of

farine on the coat, with these vaches, she chof, she'd not,

and she was like the mard finally, and I don't know to do you don't know

a standard that I arrive to join but of course it's a A other thing that I find interesting in her article of Katrina is that these days

the discourse around a subculture, you know, if we can consider the tradwif like a subculture, these days, the discourse around an subculture often seem more vibrant than the succulture itself. And that I'm in

agree, and for me, there's, you will be perhaps not be content, but I think it's a bit echo to sovereignism at the young, you know, which we've talked kind of quite

in the last month. I think the discourse, the paradiscor vibre and you know, it's made

to call the language in the media, but I think he pen to more to

incarnate in these manifestations concrete, you know, a real community. It's a

level aesthetic, you know, it's like a form of hashtag Quebec Core or a

kind of meme, and you have always said, yeah, the aesthetic it's super

important and it should start that it can't that For the moment, I think it's

still at this level that. You want to if you want, if you want, you know, I'll let the right.

Well, not particularly in accord, but I'm quite quite that's, when you say, the paradox

you talk about more than a lot of children than to the young, than the people, they're

going to talk about this subrenism. Like, an aesthetic, a core, plus than, a very movement

or, let's, there would be there would, there would, there would be where the people try to be

political. But there's a but you have to realize Atticale in this moment before

12 months all the CEP and University of Quebec have created the committee independentists there's a

democracy that's okay so you know it starts to transcend the aesthetic and there

there's there there's many of things there's just like you like it's not

inoffensive you know it's a fucking important but but often it comes

by the aesthetic before it's something of And especially with the independantism, it's that there's a story. It's like, what's

what's what it's past in the last 18 of me? It's just the repackaging of this story and of these affect there,

of these emotions that. I think it's that the independence of Quebec, it's not an idea that's not

to be continued, as I said. You know, I said, I'm still I'm connected with a certain

sign literary after that I'm via and I'm just put in the micro open at every time

a week, but I think it's kind of revelative it's, you know, it would be able to be in a micro-overre and see if there's

there's a discourse on independence, but often when there's really a great movement social, you the poets,

especially in Quebec, they've joined in these revanchation that, you, I don't not,

I'm not, I'm not, ultimately, is that, is that, is that, is simply, an aesthetic,

pastoral, flea, Because at, at least, I think, a aesthetic, but even at these objects of merchandise, very precise,

you know, a tableier, a plan to decouped in wood, tell containers ceramics, tell poe

mason. And she talked of this idea of counterculture. And then, we talked to that

all over the years 60, so, a culture, a culture that's iridgered

against the mainstream. And there is, is that today, is that is possible

the contra culture? Maybe maybe that it space under the radar. Maybe it's not visible like the movements

that are visible in a way algorithmic who finally finish a bit by be co-opted or who respond to a dynamic

transactional. There, she will mention the theory which I have already talked, so dark forest or the

forest on the internet, like what, to more, there's the culture that there's a community

that's created, but in the spaces in line that are more private, more less public, because the internet

public is become hostile, imprevisible, and, especially very monetized, monetizable. And she mentions also an article that I've read in The New Yorker of Kyle Chaka, who's written

on the culture web, who says that now, no, no, have been to have many of followers, or perhaps even not not have

any of their accounts a little private, well, it's made cool. Just so a affair of

millennial, it's, but to make these articles with our followers, it's cool now, it's like... Well, I'm like...

Well, I'm sorry, but I'll say, but I'll say, but I'll say, it's like... I'm excused. Having no friends is cool now. Wearing your shirts backwards

is the coolest thing in town. Well, if I'm if I'm offish, cool or not, but I think that it's kind of

real that there's more there's things that's going to do things not only not only single monetizable,

but also that's not traceable. There also, but it's like the close friends, the finsta, you know, it's not, it's not,

it's not a new so. So, so, brief, it's all the I'm going to say.

Good, good, I mean, to listen Pablo to all people and I'm just to call

Pablo, because me, one of the thing is one of the thing, is that

the most saga political of the last year, Pablo Rodriguez and Maroir

Riski, shout out of Quebec, Ter, of Integration of Immigrant. So, for the

people who'll make a resume a little bit more. But Marwa Risky had been named Chief Parliamentary of the Party Liberal of Quebec because the new chef Pablo Rodriguez didn't have not at the Assembly National. He had not even been elected, he had been a deputy federal before. So, he was named Maroisky, who is

the deputy liberal the most known of the public. I don't know that the people know it's the most known, if all the most known, if everyone had already heard of the name, they're just a lot, and compared to the other, a 20thene of deputies of the caucus liberal, you could not me name a lot, which is the caucus That's why I said that I said that's why I said that. He said the name chief parliamentar for the session, it's been, it's not

not, we don't know, we're not, we don't know, we're off a bit, in fact. And then, Monday, Maraariski decided to congedy his chief of cabinet. And there's a chef of cabinet in a job, justly, in a bureau of chief parliamentar, of the opposition official, is the person who gregers, because it's a lot of staff. At the base, it's a lot of policy at this level, it's a lot of resource human. I have the impression that's all the job.

Yeah, it's communication, but after, it's an other aspect, It's, like, gestures of personnel. And Pablo Rodriguez was named Genevieve Innsk as chief of cabinet Maroisky because it's his own

ancient chief of federal, so he he had to like to surveilling what he's going to while he's not at the Assembly National.

There, I think it's the error fundamental and there was there had been there's been quite what it's but Maraourourke

has decided to the congedy and it said to it had caused a series of events that had made in

so that Pablo Rodriguez had to all people on people at all when he had seen the new, he has decided to suspend

Maroisky of the caucus liberal, he has demit his functions of chiefs parliamentarer. It has been the publication in the Grand of Montreal of a series of textos where is we would have two organizers political, or in fact, we have no idea, it's who are people saying, oh, yeah, he's all the time

pay the people to vote for Pablo, is the people who have used their their brownie? Their brownie, it would be a billet of $100. The people have had the right to a billet of $100 to vote for Pablo at the course

to the chafree of the party liberal. So, all that all you've been in the mix, It's just the Juval of Montreal who's like clearly Pequist who's just foot the marred

to party liberal also and like I respect the grind you know it's just it's just all the press

who would have the same affair to make the fair game but there it's during the

crisis with Geneyeve ins all people everyone starts to make to make

the party the party liberal the party the party Tony Tomassi the party the party of

Mark Bibo the party the party the party when you talk of campaign electoral, of allocation of

contract, there's a long historic, the cover of the McLean, the bonhom carnaval. So, it's evoked all this

imagination of the corruption of the party liberal. And what's what's more more more than

this story, it's the chief of the party Quebeco has made a story to say

that, ah, yeah, the PLQ is the party to be the party

all the time has been offerist, I think that's that he said. And, Pablo Rodriguez

had started in the media. It's the defamation to say that, we're not corrompue.

And then, three months later, you're the chief of cabinet that's made out, and there's exchange of textos, like we'll pay $100 for vote for Pablo. It's like,

like, in the space of three months. Tandis that in the last time, all the parties were at the base, save the party liberal.

Because Pablo Rodriguez was, it was too not there in the media, that the people, I guess, I guess, I'm, I guess, I'm going to

vote for the liberal, because he's not, the sole thing that's the same thing effectively, not be there in the pageage

and it's it's good to be in retray and let CPSP say that he's going to have a referendum and Francho

like to lose to the money you're trying to be defacto the choice for the prime minister

it's, it's like it's honestly, I'm not familiar with the game of Pablo

Rodriguez I've I've seen I've quite much I've been when he

had been when he's because he worked on the first iteration of the project

of law C1 the reformed of the law on the telecommunications that

me interested the Online Streaming Act. I had like a lot when he had like he had at this moment

but he had to get a crisis and you know it's not because oh I'm sure sure it's really a shit show

there really he had really made a conference of press the mercrede where is he talked to at a point

like his he arrived not to dream the night because his name because his name I'm a pot

of family I've traversed the pond I've all the time and it had all the on all people on par. It's like he's trying to

to us present his CV, like if we're to believe it, there's clearly no response to give, I'd have not made enough of interview than that, and then he's going, he's like, I'm not time that you have any questions. And then the journalist said, you know, what's the journalist has responded? She said, we're going to return when there are

some, when you'll have some, because he made just say, niporto, and it's been, it's interesting in all this story, because it's an A story on continue where we'd are to stop the bulletin' new, we'd say okay, breaking

news, that's a lot of, it's been interesting, the level of political. And I think it's fair game to comment an

story in development. At the time, it's like, I see, like, I see, like, the engagement

political of the population, as a moment of capacity to create an interest to the population of the media,

like, if I had to dramatized and created, I was made on YouTube for in some years, like create a

recie around the politics with these characters and the returnments and really dramatized the politics. But like the

reality that's exactly, but it's like that this is past this week. So these moments, these crises,

are these are these good moments of introduction to the politics to the public,

because the day to the policy, the project, the project, the project, the project, the project,

it's not that's not engage someone who is not politicized. You think that's encourage the

people to implicate politically I think it's a capacity, not to get to get to

continue to see, and to understand the place of these moments of crisis are good

for kind of generate to the attention to find these public, and maybe

maybe like interested of the world to be like the politics of Steve

Bannan a float of zone with shit or finally you're constantly

in trying to think to think of some intrigue political who in the bigger picture

will be it could say, finally. It's been quite a lot of things grave in politics in the sense where the KAC

adopts several laws completely effraient. All that culminate by him who goes to all over

Riski who saw a statement just before he passed to everyone on and if

I had to judge like the performance of this time, it's like Mara Riski

who gongue because she, she's not present to the chepre of the party

liberal because she decided to make a retray of the politics she has

two She wants a post of politics, but she's not said she's a retrait. So, she clearly, she will want to re-revene in politics. And then, the coup of clad for partier, it's the way of course.

I just say, like, if I have commented like the PR of this, it's a genius, because we'll be able to when she has quitted. Especially if there was a photo grave

of confidence of Jeanne de J. That would have had been put to the port because supposedly she will have retened at its integrity.

That, like there's a part of the population that will be some re-reple the city. It's like really the construction. If, let's

in 10-year-old, or in 8-year-Ski who will have been Prime Minister of Quebec, that will have been a moment instrumental. And I imagine

that's that she's that she's like, she's like, she could be not, like, finish, we could not

top and that, the deputies of Quebec Soldier, Vincent Marisale who decides to quit the caucus of Quebec Soldier,

and he quitted and he quit to fashion forth, he's like, this party is inguvernable, I accumulated,

I accumulated an load of a lot of frustration, and for the gout that has made debordered the vase, it's that Quebec Solidair

has decided to not apply the acceleration of the application of the law that impache the workers

of the societies of transport to do the grave. Finally, it's been the conflict is reglia.

The grave had not been made. We've had had the services of transport in common

in Montreal, but Quebec Soled refused to because it had the unanimity

of the Assembly National for power to power to advance the application

of And Quebec Solidar was the sole party who's opposed to he was against that I guess but you know Quebec Soledair

they're like no we're we're not we're for the STM and at the table of negotiations it's what

I think it's interesting because he said he said Gabriel Lodo Dubois to try to make a party of government

but all first would that the party are governable it's a party that's a party that's titanised

by his base what I'm what I'm to see to make to make that there

clearly a new party political that will be found in the future.

Like I think that there's really like the school Gabriel Lando Dubois if it's

even not he's even not surprised that Gabriel Lando Dubois with a structure decisional that is not

like Quebec Soldiers because for the people who say Rubba Gazal and Sol it's the

port-parole of Quebec Soldiers well it's really really these port-parole they can't

to say these things that go to what's it's been voted during their

assembly general by their members. They can just put their power

of the members. They can not, they can talk they can't go to

any of their position or their decision of their policy really

of measures governmental. So it has been in sort that there's not really

there's not really how it's Parliamentaire of Quebec Solubley but clearly it was too for Vincent Marissa I think that's what he made the table for the next election I'm just not just not that the KACC

for the government like to be like, I'm trying, I think I was thinking that we'd continue in the Kack Mess like, you know, it's that we had that one year, it was all the Kack, it's all the Mour, the Kack, boom,

the Kack, L, after L, after L, and then, it's correct, the Libero, he catches L, but the QS KGL and the PQ, he rie, he he ried, but, you know, who will benefit to that? No.

Eric Duem. I'm... I rest with my affair. I think I'll do live that he has made a few

that's a question, I think that Gabriel Lando Dubois, or in any he will have a new party political

to goche if it's it's more to be more the image of the party socialists. And it's

that I think that the Quebec Solidare they think they're like LFE and I'm sure that

when John Luke Melancho he's been here, he's been here he had talked with Ruba Gazal

he had there a connection ideological but they have a zero the same ORA than the same ORA

that's we're doing so I'm not seen it I'm not it's not it's not how in Quebec

Soldair can't be like I'm think the momentum of 2018 is perdu, like in 2018

there was a real momentum in 2021 when it was peak like François Lugo who tried

Gabriel Lando Dubuodd Wokes I'm maybe maybe not maybe it's there's

there's that there's that there a moment where's that in certain in the pandemic

over the French Lego has decided to try to frame like if his enemy number one

it's a Quebec Solidaire Okay Ando Du Bois he was like let's go okay, yes it's me

who do form the opposition official and that it's like he said that he'd say, oh we'll

try to try to make a party of government because he had kind of like he

had more in the talk all the walk and the Gabriel ando

Dubois and his game of his game completely past I'm

I think I've been a couple of a few on the week on last week

Okay, yeah. If you're two two months I'm interested. It's the same. It's the same. It's interesting midiated.

And we thank you. So, thank you. I mean, I have a recommendation cultural just about

to you say, bye. So I don't know who are who are interested or who have

to consult the few million or I see not too, the Epstein Files

that have been out of but I think it as a acophonic when we click, it's a

link Google Drive. In this is pile-mile even I mean, I would say, I read

these articles in which he was cited, and I thought it was hard to understand the exchange courierle and all that. So I'm

going to make in the notes of the mission a link where there really like someone who has recreated

a kind of a sort of a box of reception couriel and you have all the messages like

so, or you can click on the messages really really look like if it was in

the board of Jeffrey Epstein. So it can be interesting if there's a lot who who's there.

Troule of recommendation cultureate. Yeah, I know but it's so. Thank you

for the episode and we'll see in a other continent to everyone well. Well,

yeah, thank to us and at all and the music of intro and of

Azulo A Z-L-O Fete attention to you to listen to the next

bye Bye. You know,