café snake - Je me souviens de Minecraft

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

On couvre la sortie du film A Minecraft Movie et les memes qui entoure le film pour parler de la place du jeu Minecraft dans l'histoire de la culture web. Méditation sur la radicalisation et les écrans en réaction a la série Adolescence Élections semaine 3, Parti Vert vs Céline, Rachel Gilmore, NPD flop, Poisson d'avril, Corey BookerNotre patreon: patreon.com/cafesnakeDigi mixKamilou - Assonance : https://open.spotify.com/intl-fr/track/6cImCVO16tgzwZtsLYNhNe?si=1d1c9462643444c0Anas hassouna : https://www.instagram.com/p/DH6yyGVRMyV/Digi News5 chefs une élection : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF9st6_FqDULes femmes livrées en pâture:Inspiration tiktok de @sheabuttermother (qui dénonce d’ailleurs la blanchitude médiatique, pas abordée dans mon segment)CTV cède aux pressions conservatrices et limoge une journaliste indépendante, Pascale Lévesque, Le Soleilhttps://www.lesoleil.com/actualites/2025/04/03/ctv-news-cede-aux-pressions-conservatrices-et-limoge-une-journaliste-independante-PFT4MTNIEFDNPMYJLUMHPFOI54/"CTV Cancelled a Fact-Checking Segment in Response to Political Pressure." It was mine. Rachel Gilmore, YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdPiBNiedQgLe marathon de Cory BookerHere is Cory Booker’s Oura Ring Data From His 25-Hour Senate Speech, Brett Williams, NASM, Men’sHealth, https://www.menshealth.com/health/a64382298/cory-booker-senate-speech-oura-ring/Corey Booker Steps Up — Or Rather Stands There For A Long Time, But, Still…, Ryan Broderick, Garbage Day, https://www.garbageday.email/p/i-think-elon-s-getting-vivek-d-after-this-one-folksDream SMPhttps://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dream+smp+lorehttps://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/2154362/minecraft-film-jeu-video-record-box-office-premier-weekendMéditation sur la radicalisation et les écransConspiracy, Contrapoints, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teqkK0RLNkI&t=9238sDear Kelly (documentaire)https://www.dearkellyfilm.com/aboutEntrevue entre Joshua Citarella et Andrew CallaghanAndrew Callaghan: Andrew’s Theory of Radicalization | Doomscroll, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf-x7T-fFc0

Hello, I'm Daphne. I forgot that I was watching a movie about an hour on a bear. I was really frustrated. I don't watch that movie. It's Café Snake. Hello, I'm Daphne. I forgot that I was watching a movie about an hour on a bear. I was really frustrated.

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I forgot that I was watching a movie about an hour on a bear. I was really frustrated. I don't watch that movie. It's Café Snake. Hello, I'm Daphne. I forgot that I was watching a movie about an hour on a bear. I was really frustrated. I don't watch that movie. It's Café Snake. Hello, I'm Daphne. I forgot that I was watching a movie about an hour on a bear. Hello everyone! Hello, CafeSnakers!

CafeSnakers, welcome to CafeSnake number 37. Thank you to everyone who listens, who subscribes. This is an episode that is available to everyone today. Just remember that one episode out of two is available entirely on our Patreon. Thank you to everyone who subscribed. Yes, thank you very much. So the Patreon is patreon.com with the word Café Snake, and for the price of a beer on a terrace,

you can have access to all our episodes. It's a spring Café Snake. What are you going to talk about today, Daphne? So I'm going to talk about a lot of things, but my segment is going to be a meditation on radicalization through, again, I'm going back to adolescence, the very popular series on Netflix, but I also talked about the new online documentary of Contrapoints, The Philosopher on YouTube, and the documentary Dear Kelly by the documentary maker Andrew Calhan. And you, Munir, what are you going to talk about? I called my segment Minecraft Minions Bad, so I'm going to talk about the release of the new Minecraft movie.

The role of Minecraft in the web culture and pop culture in general. Through the release of the new movie, a Minecraft movie that is in the theater. So without further ado... Let's go to the DG News! The rates are applied to the avocados of Mexico. Well, look at the beautiful avocados from Morocco. I've never seen that before. I don't know if one day I'll be a resta For now I'm eating the leftovers myself

It's a resta Stop, stop You're publishing your album to all the dogs. Yes. I deserve it like a dog, I'm going to round them up I'm going to grab them, I'm going to make a little resta A second day in a row, the students of the secondary school of Chambly

showed up yesterday. First outside, then inside. The young people denounce a lack of space that could force the relocation of a certain number of students. What are you doing to me? What are you doing to me? I don't have a dream, you like me?

I don't have a dream, you like me? I don't have a dream, you like me? What are you doing to me? What are you doing to me? By the way, I have wanted to say free my ops. Yeah, I'm at that point where I'm spreading my ops. Because if my ops are in there, I can't take care of them, you know? It's been almost a week since two people died during police service interventions in the city of Montreal and we we have still not heard any statement from the mayor of Esplante or the director of

SPVM Fadi Dager. A week ago, day by day in the district Saint-Léonard in Montreal, early in the morning, police officers were called for an intervention with a man in crisis. The intervention was going wrong. The man lost his life after the altercation with the police. The man was called Abisai Cruz. He was 29 years old, father of a family, father of a young child. These criminals are in the police station. They left my son without his father.

He is 9 years old. He doesn't know how to suffer his pain. You killed him. You are an assassin. You killed him. You are the murderer. You killed him. You did it. The criminals are in the police station. We want justice. Justice for Abisai Cruz. That's what we came here for today.

We want justice for Abisai Cruz. It's going to be Liberation Day in America For Abyss, it's big! For those who didn't Patreon last week, I announced that we were going to have a new segment called Carnival which is a a review of the last week of the campaign. The debate of the bosses is on April 16th in French. We're going to listen to it on my Twitch channel. Thanks to everyone who was there when we listened to 5 bosses, 1 election on my Twitch channel. Yes, me too, I lent myself to the game.

I had to subscribe to Twitch. And my name is Daphne Le Pingouin. Yes, that's your channel. You can subscribe to Daphne's account on Twitch. I watched all of this, it was really interesting. So it was a really quiet week on the federal campaign side. Especially with the fact that there was the big day of liberation, as Donald Trump would say, where he announced tariffs on almost the entire planet.

It really monopolized media attention. And that's when we're in this Donald Trump territory, tariffs, we really refer to Mark Carney, puts on his Prime Minister shoes. So we make a distinction between Mark Carney, politician, the leader of the Liberal Party in elections and the Prime Minister. It would seem normal if he had really been elected Prime Minister, or if he was even a deputy. But since he's a non-elected, it's still weird to see him when CNN

publishes the response of the Prime Minister of Canada at the Tariff, and there is Mark Carney. It's always going to be weird until he becomes elected as a deputy to say that he's our Prime Minister. Lead us, Big Daddy! As some of the Liberal Party's activists would say. By building the strongest economy in the G7. And that's what we're going to do but I think Mark Coney and that's why I'm going to review his performance more because he

was called on an international tribune to comment on this news that Trump imposes tariffs so I'm just going to criticize his response to that. I think he's using really aspirational language, maybe even app, and at the same time, as an utopian, saying that Canada should replace the United States or saying that Canada will and I quote, build the strongest economy in G7. I don't have the impression that it's something even desirable to have the strongest economy

in G7 or to take the role of the United States as the world's imperial leader. I don't think that's the way we want it. But he said that and it seems like it's a bit of a provocation. or to take the role of the United States as the world's imperial leader. I don't think that's what we want. But he said that and it sounds like a provocation. Donald Trump, strangely, doesn't attack him when he makes that kind of remark.

So I find it interesting that we're in this situation of 51st state for two months and then we have Mark Carney who says that he's not going to back down the United States and that we're going to replace the US, and then Trump said nothing. The week after, we brought five leaders to a election in Radio-Canada. Artificial intelligence, if I followed correctly, to improve the effectiveness of public service in particular. But for people, artificial intelligence, productivity, it's a bit vague. It's as if they were magic sticks for you.

What will change in public service, for example, artificial intelligence? It's a big change in a sense. It's a transformation of the government management system because we target the results not the expenses. Once again, I would have said it here because last week I said it only on Patreon, but the treatment that journalists are given in Kearney is so day and night compared to all the other parties. And often we will do this kind of binary. We will just stop commenting on how the media treatment of the Conservative Party towards the liberal party's media treatment in Radio Canada. But I think it's generalized to all parties. And as we will see later,

Daphne will talk about the Green Party. It's really with the NPD, with the Bloc. But also, we must say, even if it's not the political affiliations of people with the NPD, with the Bloc. But also, even if it's not the political affiliations of the people, with the Conservative Party, I think the first 5 questions to Pierre Poiliev were about Mark Carney, or what we called directly Mark Carney. I think it just feeds, again I repeat, it just feeds polarization. And I just think it feeds an anti-Radio-Canada. In addition, this week, Murr-Curney announced that Radio-Canada CBC needed even more funding, at $140 million. I just want to point out too, apart from Sébastien Bovet, in Saint-Gef, an election, who still tried,

even managed to somehow confront Murr-Curney regarding his professional activities. You placed your assets in a six-pointed line, you therefore respect the law, but you refuse to voluntarily unve passed your assets in a 6-way court, so you respect the law, but you voluntarily refuse to disclose your assets before May, when they will be officially disclosed to Canadians. Why would Canadians vote for you without knowing the nature of your assets? The rest was almost all centered around the United States.

And I find that the political media class is trying to make us believe that the biggest concern our biggest concern would be the United States. But personally, my biggest concern is my material conditions. If what's happening in the United States is going to have the biggest effect on my material conditions, it's important that I know, you have to explain it to me. You don't just have to tell me. And I think the media is talking about the United States. The United States is constantly asking the question of the urn.

They are telling us that the question of the urn is who will be able to face Trump. Hold your head up. I feel like we are imposing this question of the urn. When you walk around, when you say no to housing, there are a lot of people, it's going to be immigration, there are a lot of people, it's going to be public services. There are a lot of people that are going to be immigrants, there are a lot of people that are going to be public services. There are a lot of issues in Canada. There are going to be the environment, there are going to be whatever issues that are domestic, national. But now we are told in the media that the tariffs that Trump is going to impose are going to really harm the Canadian economy and that's really important.

But I think there is a mistake in education, in the way that it's going to have such a big impact. I understand that it will cause inflation, I understand that it will really damage the supply chain, it will damage the aluminum companies, it will damage the auto industry in Ontario. I understand all these things, but I think we are being questioned, we are 10 years away from Justin Trudeau, and we can't really have an election with a new liberal leader

who will say what are the new concerns of Canada, what should be the future of Canada. But it's just really in the immediate Donald Trump. If we give a majority to Mark Carney or to Pierre Poiliev, Donald Trump will no longer be president when it's going to be the next elections in Canada. So I don't think that should necessarily be the emphasis. And we're going to blame Pierre Poiliev for talking about internal issues. It stimulates more his base because they have this reaction to do,

well no, we're talking about what really worries Canadians. I think that this idea of political spectacle, of the gathering that is really put forward by the campaign of Pierre Poiliev is directly out of the playbook to Trump. Also noted on Pierre Poiliev, he added new language elements in his speeches this week, it really really pronounced, he started talking about the biological clock of women of 36 years old, which he didn't say at all before. 36? Yeah he said 36. Nice. I don't know which demo he's looking for quite hard with that. We know he's already very unpopular with women. The Liberal Party tried to read what they tried to do with G.D. Vance, with the weird, the creep. To say that he who speaks of bodies, women, biological clock, it's like weird and creepy.

Well, I think it's mostly a matter of, you know, like yes, we would like to have the means for some. If that's the dream, the desire to have children, to have the means to have children, but often in conservative policies, we put before the birth, but we don't give women the means to keep their rights at work, or to have maternity leave payments, or to have affordable care, or to have affordable housing. And that's what's put this contradiction in front of them, because in the last ten years, Justin Trudeau has still transposed the model of CPEs

everywhere in Canada by offering a 10-dollar-a-day care program, dental insurance, that will be deployed to more and more people in Canada. These are all things that Pierre Poilier will vote against, but at the moment he says he will keep them. So it's like a kind of contradiction because yes, these public programs

cost a lot of money and they contribute to the deficit of Canada. Pierre Poilier was against it at the time, but now that they are part of the life of many citizens of Canada, he is forced to say that we will keep the programs for which they voted against. Let's talk about the tax cut, which is often heard, including as a populist measure. I found it interesting the speech of the head of the Green Party, Jonathan Pénou, when we were watching.

What was it? Five bosses, one election. Yes, during the show, Five, 1 election on Radio Canada. Full disclosure, I know Jean-Antoine Pénou. I've already had a beer with him. He's very nice. You had friends in common. Yes, that's right. It may influence my vision of the character.

But I really appreciated his speech. And he proposes, with his party, to eliminate federal taxes for revenues lower than $40,000. And I'm interested in that. That's the kind of tax drop that speaks to me. Because what does it do? It will affect people who need that low income. So when you make $40,000 less per year, $3,000, $4,000 that you would have

to give to the Canadian government at the end of your year, it makes a bad difference. He proposes this measure, he proposes also to increase the tax for those who are very rich. For the companies, he wants to increase the tax for the companies. Exactly. So I see that it's really the formulation of something really very very very realistic, interesting, and which will precisely affect people who are on low incomes. When someone talked about this, I'll put the extract, but when someone talked about it in Radio-Canada,

it was made up by Céline Gallipault. Quickly, you propose a tax cut that would deprive the public treasury of $50 billion. Is that really realistic? We have absolutely no intention of depriving the public treasure of any data, Madam Gallipo. We want to increase public treasure. We will remember that we are in a crisis period. In the 1940s and 50s, Canadian companies were taxed at 50-40% of the exposure. It decreased in the Christian years.

Under Harper, we dropped it to 15%. Now it has remained at 15% under Mr. Trudeau. We want to bring it back to 21%. Go get the money. We went down 15% to the And then one of my favorite Instagram pages, queermedium.segnant, which I will put in the notes of the episode, which is really good, I think, to summarize everything that happened, so I can read you some excerpts. So we live in a world where a politician who proposes measures to somewhat rebalance the rates of imposition in favor of anti-minors is considered a crazy person who dreams in color. He literally laughed at Jonathan Pennot in the background, while in my opinion it was a totally credible and coherent speech. There was nothing crazy in there. It's still special to see how much the journalistic reserve is really... it's a double standard. To what extent did you have a journalistic reserve at that time?

Because she said, you are aware that a lot of people would find that ridiculous, she said it as if she was sharing an opinion that wasn't hers. You are aware that a lot of Canadians would find that ridiculous. Yes, I understood that the way she turned her sentence, she didn't take

responsibility for her words. It's a good example of media treatment and a lot of very, very important, very, very serious issues. A good example is also treatment that has a lot of very important and very serious issues. A good example also makes it possible for young people who have difficulties paying their rent or even finding an affordable rent, to decide to stop watching the news in Radio-Canada. This is what ends our Carnival segment. Thank you for your memory. It's going to be a Carnival theme.. It's gonna be Carnival de Coney. A subject adjacent to this political carnival, women delivered in a pack. And then I even came across a TikTok that related the two events.

So I hop on the trend, as they say. Jogmeet Singh, head of NPD, who made capsules, videos, in any case, media appearances with Jessica Wetz, who then dismissed her by saying that she would no longer participate in the campaign. Because people went a little archaeological digs in her digital footprint, she's really a pro-Palestinian activist, and they discovered that at some point she compared, surprise surprise, the Holocaust to the genocide in Gaza. And that makes her speech taxed as anti-Semitic.

Apparently, we could absolutely not compare something to the Holocaust. Instead of supporting this woman, they completely distanced themselves from her. It also makes me think of Rachel Gilmore, a Canadian independent journalist. She was hired by CTV to do a kind of verification segment of the facts at CTV's Matilal show, Your Morning. And then there would have been a campaign of conservative trolls, of online conservative press, especially so that they don't appear on the show anymore. Rachel Gilmour has a similar position as Taylor Lawrence

in the O States, in relation to the haters on the right on Twitter. So she really generated a lot of hate by her positions during the pandemic, which didn't go away. People keep that in mind. They still hate Rachel Gilmour for her position on COVID and drag this hate no matter what professional opportunity she's going to have.

CTV gives in to conservative pressure and has limoged the journalist. And there's a good article I discovered in Le Soleil written by the journalist Pascale Lévaille, which I'll put in the notes. And that's it, we learn all sorts of things in there, we give the floor to Rachel Gilmour. What I have to say about this is that often I find that in the media, or even there, we can consider the NPD as a kind of media organization in the context of an election campaign, but we will ally ourselves with interesting voices, voices that generate engagement, voices that are engagement, necessary voices, but voices

that are vulnerable for all kinds of reasons, and when these voices are attacked, we refuse to protect them. I find that it reflects my experience in traditional media. Several times I didn't feel protected for all kinds of reasons. I didn't feel like my integrity was a priority. The fact that I'm a woman and also a woman who looks rather young, and I started doing radio when I was about 26 or 27 years old, you know, my public image is much easier to discredit than that of a minister who would be sitting, for example, next to me. I don't have the same authority in the same way, I don't impose the

same respect. So it's also important to take that into consideration. Another thing I notice is that when you're a woman or a representative of another form of oppression, for example, you're going to be the only person of black color around a table, or you're going to be the only disabled person around a table, trans around a table, you're expecting to have a word to say, everything done, when the question of racism or sexism or capacitism or transphobia arises. While people, men, next to me, they have nothing to say and we don't wait for those men to speak. I prepared a segment on technology, artificial intelligence,

I really worked hard to put it into words, to be succinct, to pass a message and then B boom! I'm asked to comment something on a regular basis, to deliver a little pro-feminist speech to nuance the disgusting words that are burning around me. But I'm not paid for that. And it's like, all of a sudden, I was called to play a double role. And it's not my chronicle that we want to hear, that's often what I felt. It's not my chronicle that we really wanted to hear me do. It's really just the fact that I was a young woman around the table, and I got there to nuance, to represent a form of diversity.

Sometimes I think the media, whether it's on the radio or on TV, it's not necessarily a place that is easily habitable. At least it's not for everyone, especially not for people who are already vulnerable. And if at least I could say, you know, ok, I'm going to go through this adversity, I'm going to take my hole because it allows me to pay my rent, etc. Well, I might do it, but the problem is that peace doesn't justify the candle, like it's a rickety, the remuneration we receive in the media. The live speaking is also a performance that is very stressful, it's not easy for me. I'm an intellectual,

yes, a writer, an essayist, but I'm not an actress, I'm not a comedian, I'm not a queen of improvisation. I find that it's a job that always requires a preparation, in fact, to speak in a microphone. And when I'm called, also, it happened to me often this year, for example, I was receiving texts, missed calls at 7 a.m. so that I can speak, let's say, on Radio Canada Quebec or I don't know too much, to comment on a positional position or an article that was published in the press that I had written. But it's something that I don't take lightly because I know that it won't bring me positive visibility. I know that every word that I

say has the power to turn against me, and that it has a lot more chance of valuing me a few annoying messages in my Instagram messages than positive messages. And in the article of the Sun, where the journalist will question Rachel Gilmore, Rachel says that for her, it's a tactic, a kind of campaign against women that started with Gamergate, an event that happened in 2014. And I've been getting a lot of feedback, either at the University of McGill or at the Édouard-Montpetit in Ségép with Monique recently. We talked a lot about web culture, and every time I ask, do you know Gamergate?

Nobody knows Gamergate. Nobody can summarize what happened 10 years ago. In contrast, the first question that teachers will ask is how to counter disinformation? How to teach young people to consume their information well, not the traps of misinformation. I think that digital literacy starts not by necessarily denigrating what is happening online systematically, but by understanding the history of the web. By understanding, for example, Gamergate. What happened during Gamergate, because it's a very important moment in the history of the web, the social history of the web. And that's where they organized, in particular,

large sexist slandering campaigns, which are still very present today, which have also evolved. When we talk to students and we ask them what is astroturfing, it's not about knowing if it's true or false, if it's AI or not, it's really about strategically understanding the tactics that are used to disseminate information. Astro-turfing is basically manipulating statistics or the commitment of a

publication on the internet or a movement on the internet to create the impression that there is a lot of scope or that generates a lot of attention. Astro-turfing is basically an English term, but it refers to the artificial sludge astroturf, and it is to be put in opposition with the English term grassroot movement, the root, what's going on with the earth, what's going on with the people. When we talk about astroturf, it's literally the idea of an artificial commitment, like an artificial grass, so it's like the counterfeiting of a movement that would be popular. For example, you had a good example at the beginning, before the election campaign started,

you were constantly on TikTok edits of Mark Carney's fan, while no one knows who Focal is, it's unlikely. You know, it's really predominant in the ambient discourse, whether it's in the media or even people who are who are afraid, who are afraid of the future, who want to protect their children, their students, their students, well, the first thing to do is to study the social web and to be able to teach this web, the history of the web. And that's not what we're doing right now. People are completely devoid of control. Just to come back briefly, it was a week of April 1st, and I have the impression that there is a trend that I have been observing for a few years. I have the impression that the April Fishing Day was a celebration that was losing momentum,

which was less and less respected. But since, I have the impression that since maybe the COVID or the year after the COVID, all companies and especially all politicians make us April Fishes, some of them more elaborate than others. It all started because I saw a video of the influencer, content creator Farnell Morissette. Where was he like,

I just wanted to tell you that no matter the rumor that circulates about me, I will not address it. I will not say it. He published it on March 31st, but at 11h50. So he didn't even there for the 1st of April. Everyone was telling him in his comments. I was like, that's true, that's what woke me up. It was the 1st of April soon.

The next day, I woke up and saw a post by Paul St-Pierre Plamondon. He told us that they were going to put a new plan of management of Quebec in Canada. Preface by King Charles with a cover that has an Arabian leaf. It's a big staging to say that the PQ has finally become a federalist. With a lot of febrile, the Parti Québécois finally deposits its document on the economic future of Quebec, a document entitled A Quebec without its choices, which gives important economic orientations for the future of things.

First, we had the privilege of having some foreshadowing by King Charles himself. And essentially what we describe is a future in which we will not be able to decide for ourselves on everything that affects our economy. Finally, decisions will be made according to other interests than ours. In fact, we are now making a copy of Mark Carney, who seems to be the best person to put it in the works. And then I open Twitter and I forget a little that it's the first of April and there I see a publication by Maxime Bernier who says after having consulted Pierre Poilier, we will unite our forces and present ourselves on one banner, end the division of the division in Canada. And I was completely shocked. I sent it to Daphne, I sent it to a lot of people. I was like, Maxime Bernier and Pierre Boilieff are finally together. What's going to happen?

And finally I realized that it was an April Fools' Day. I was so excited. And I was thinking, it's really... And after all the companies, all the startups, there were even a lot of discussions on TikTok that the companies shouldn't make fish from April developed over several weeks. But this kind of institutional recovery of fish from April, Daphne sent me a publication

of the city of Laval. I have the impression that when I was in primary school, where I saw the fish from April, you stuck fish in the back of the world. It was a thing of the past. Now it's like mega deployment. We hired K7 to make our April Yeah, that's it. But I just find that cringe. That's the word. Yeah, I noticed that reality seems to surpass fiction anyway, day by day.

Every piece of content I watch, for example every Instagram post that flows under my eyes when I scroll on Instagram, I always have a mistrust about what I watch. I will always check the comments now to see if what I consumed is synthetic content or if it really exists. I always... I can't really give and believe. So it seems like this year it was maybe a bit flat, especially in an air post chat GPT, to be honest. I even saw a comment that went in that direction of the journalist Vanessa Dessiné on Instagram. So it's as if our hyper reality made it so that we were in an already ambiguous content overdose, already with non-stop April Fishes. Maybe it's part of the disenchantment of the first April of the Canulars. But that's it. And it's mostly taken over by the cast. It's the companies and the politicians.

It's zero. Ah, your friend made an April fish. He announced that he was going to live an Australian year. Well, no, it's a joke. That's what makes me laugh. It's that there is some marketing budget put on April fish. It's like, yes, we've probably 6 meetings, 2 hours, and we've been fucking chit-chatting for the first 30 minutes. Like, what are you doing today at

work? Well, I've been working on my April Fish, I'm a employee or a marketing worker for a company. I'm like, no, we need to doge it up. Well, I think I already have a... My April Fish enchantment is from when my mom asked us to make a crybaby, and we left a message on her sister's vocal cord, so my aunt's, who lived abroad, to tell her that we had just been caught on fire and that we had lost everything. Oh my good! And my aunt, she went crazy, she stopped working, she spent a day

struggling, she didn't take her messages, I don't know. The internet... Traumatism. We weren't online. The time she got the news that it was a joke, we had completely made her suffer. And it was my mom who brought me to do that, so I felt so guilty. I was young, I was like 7 or 8 years old. That traumatized me and I think it took away my taste for making canulars.

You couldn't have discovered a movie. Yes, too. this caucus is of you. Do you know how proud America is of you? So I have a pretty important Diddy News, I would say, in terms of my grades. So I wanted to talk about Cory Booker, a New Jersey senator, former mayor of New Jersey, who recently pronounced the longest speech in the history of the American Senate, a 25-hour and 5-minute river discourse. It ended on April 1st and consistently broke the record that belonged to Senator Strom Thurmond since 1957. It was really a physical endurance test. And it was broadcast live on TikTok all along.

Exactly. And what I found interesting is that there is little detailed coverage on the content of the speech itself. So we really don't talk about the speech more than the test, the physical performance that was delivered. We finally focus on the body. For example, we say in CNN, these are great titles. How did Senator Cory Booker prepare his body for a 25-hour speech in CNN? Cory Booker didn't go to the bathroom for 25 hours. Is that okay in The Guardian? The Cory Booker endurance test, what happens to your body when you pronounce a 25-hour speech without pause in The New York Times. Senator Cory Booker says he didn't eat for days,

that he stopped hydrating himself before a historic speech in USA Today. To get to the details, it's true that he prepared his body for this endurance test. He applied several tactics, in particular he said he had joked several days before his speech, that he also had quietly, little by little, decreased his water consumption to be sure not to have to go to the toilet. As I was saying, it's really the body that is at the center of media attention, more than its discourse. By the way, he wore a bag during the speech, a bag-oura. This jewel, in fact, it monitors physical activity, it collects all kinds of biometric data, such as your heart rate, and it's popular, especially among people who are really not

necessarily in a health approach, but in a performance approach, and to consider the body as a machine that you can always optimize. In a men's health magazine, there is an article on this URA bag that Booker was wearing. And by the way, Booker provided screenshots of all the data that were collected during his speech through his bag. And it was analyzed by the newspaper. They said, we can tell you exactly how his body reacted when he got up, did the sampa and spoke, which gives us an interesting insight into the effects in real time on his health from this historical political moment. Finally, yes, the effort taken at the time of the speech was quite impressive, but the

effects of this effort were felt after the speech. So the senator also gave the data that his bag had collected in the days that followed his speech. It's really a surreal article on the speech, but which details really minutiously the heart rate of the senator during about 2300 words. That's a lot of 2300 words in the media. And not once are we going to talk about the speech. I think we don't agree with what he says in the speech, because the speech didn't function as a speech of the throne,

a big significant allegation. Ideologically, it was a filibuster. The goal was to block the Senate's operations for as long as possible. So what he said in his speech wasn't necessarily important. It was just Trump bad, Elon bad for 25 hours in a row. That's right, I understood that too, but I find it interesting to analyze the media coverage. He compares the effect of this speech on his body to a sport that you know well, football. And then he recalls when he was in college in Oregon and he played football and that made it also allow him to anchor his voice in something very American. I just wanted to make a link with what I called in Café Snake the diaper discourse

because we see that there are a lot of things that are related not only to the sphincter, because we really talk about the fact that he is not in the toilet for 25 hours, but especially to the control of the orifices. So the control of the body really becomes a way to also perform his ability to exercise a form of power. It's still interesting because you have to think that if that's the image we have, that we develop mediatically, of power, clearly it's a lot of people getting rid of it, it's a lot of people getting rid of it, and of this idea of power. Cory Booker as such, he was someone who was seen in the first Trump mandate as a figure

of the Democratic Party, a figure that could potentially be a Barack Obama. His national profile has really decreased over the years. a Democrat, a figure that could potentially be Barack Obama. His national profile has really decreased over the years. And I don't even think it's the DNC who told him to do that. I think it's a personal initiative to get back on track. I think he really did that to talk about him. And then I look in the media coverage of Ryan Broderick in Garbage Day, you know when I talk about diapodiscourse, it's literally that, he says I was hard on the Democrats over the last six months, I was frustrated, it's

the least we can say, by the fact that they didn't seem to care about the fact that they publicly shit in their asses in November, while we literally needed them the most at that time, and they may have cost us the constitutional democracy in America forever. But you know who didn't shit in his pants in public? Senator Cory Booker, during his speech of 25 hours and 5 minutes at the Senate yesterday. Was Booker dived up? So was he wearing a layer? Tell me, you can join me in a safe and anonymous way on Signal. And there he gives his...

Diapthup. Yeah. There were all kinds of criticism, comments about this performance. Some people found it really important that someone finally did something. Others found it very performative. And there, it's interesting the fact that you say that yes, it was streamed on TikTok. It was streamed everywhere, but the most popular streams are on TikTok because people are scrolling on TikTok and it's like, oh my god, he's still going.

Yeah, that's it. And usually when you stream live like that, it really creates a lot of content and it can generate clips, that is to say, video extracts that will circulate, strong moments, and I didn't really see any clips, so I don't know if you saw some. The last clip, the only clip I saw was when it was finished. For 25 hours of footage, not seeing any clips circulate, I think it's a bit of a sword in the water. Yeah, I think what would be the Mimobo's trick is to do that for 25 hours, and at

17-18 hours there's nothing left to do. And he starts doing absurd shit, he starts freestyling, he starts making points. I wish he could have edits like this. Bro doesn't even know what to say. And it becomes funny edits like this. The kind of confluence of streaming and endurance test made me think a lot about the logic of the sub-baths we Coffee Snake. Yeah, in the meat and subatomic episode that's only available on Patreon. What's not present in this performance is really the interaction with the public, because what's interesting in a stream is the idea of having those watching participate, so the

co-construction of a discourse. We're not just passive as an audience, we don't just receive information, we participate in the process. Why not do that? A Twitch subatom with Bernie Sanders or her too. It would be not only a way to circulate ideas, but also to hear what the electoral, potential Democrat has to say. It would be so funny if Bernie Sanders made a subatom. It would be so funny if Bernie Sanders did this fight. To finish, I just wanted to slip a word on content that I see more and more on my TikTok feed. After, it's my algorithmic bubble. But more and more videos of young Israelis who refuse to do their military service, a military service that is

mandatory. They are called the Refusniks. You have to understand that the military service is integral to the functioning of Israel, of the Zionist entity, if you can say so, of the Israeli regime. And when you refuse to do that, you have to spend a... you have to spend a stay in prison. I think the maximum sentence is 5 sentences of 30 days in a row. And there's even an organization that exists called Refuser Solidarity Network, which was published not even 2 weeks ago, an article that said, we are on the brink of mass refusal. It's like a movement in Israeli youth to refuse to participate in genocide. After that, maybe it's marginal, I guess it is. It's interesting if a group of civilians have to refuse apartheid or this

apartheid regime. I think it's the young people because they inherited this system, they were born there, so they didn't choose it. I think they really have this freedom, maybe even this duty of refusal. After, there are a lot of consequences. Prison is one of them, but I guess it's not the only one, because there is also all the social rejection that we can experience when we decide to do this. It's like the layers of indoctrination and propaganda in which have been presented since you exist, in fact, makes it clear to us that for us this realization there seems obvious that it is an apartheid regime that should have the duty to oppose, but for many in fact it is a completely contrary conception of the situation that places them as victims, so it's like difficult to deconstruct that I think too.

That's it. Minecraft had a truly insane weekend at the box office. Here are all the records it broke with just Flint and Steve. Okay so my segment, Minecraft Minions is bad. I wanted to talk about Minecraft because I think that Minecraft has greatly affected the web culture

in several ways that we're going to explore today, but like greatly influenced the web culture. This segment is also to talk about the new film that just came out in the Minecraft universe called A Minecraft Movie in English or French. It was directed by Jared Hess, who directed Napoleon Dynamite in particular. The film is about Jack Black who has become the de facto actor for this kind of film with intellectual property. You can see it last year in the movie of Mario.

It's really the biggest trend since the last 10 years. It's that Hollywood is recovering intellectual properties that will make nostalgia farming in fact that will ensure that a property in which they will invest hundreds of millions of dollars will already have fans who will be guaranteed maybe potentially to go to the movies as long as they invest in a new script or in an original script. There is no risk. maybe potentially to go to the movies as long as you invest in a new script or in an original script. There is no risk. For people who don't know Minecraft, it's a multiplayer game that was originally released on PC in 2009. It's a game called Sandbox.

It means that it's a world in which you can create everything and nothing. Everything is framed in blocks. There are different materials in the world, different animals, items and ecosystems. The goal of the game is to survive, build and with time, they added a main quest which is to kill the dragon. But that's not really the goal of the game, you can do it if you want to. It's not that important but I say it like that, just so you understand. One of the things that is interesting with Minecraft, yes with the description I just made, it seems to be a fairly simple game, but it's exactly the opposite.

Minecraft is a very complex game. It has its own physics, its own mathematics, and with the years it has become even more complex. An example that people often don't know and who are surprised to learn is that in Minecraft, you can thanks to the Redstone, reproduce electrical circuits and create complex systems within the game. What is redstone? It's a material in Minecraft that will be used a bit like in real life, like electrical wiring, but it's redstone. For example, when I was at CEGEP, I studied computer science and mathematics. Our programming teacher gave us the authorization to put a project of binary logic directly on Minecraft. So build a mini-circuit that is able to answer questions. For example, if the switch is on, the lamp lights up.

A kind of small logic circuit that you could even create directly in Minecraft. It looks really basic, but it's like several things in Minecraft. It's like the ethos of the game. It's that Minecraft just has to put simple mechanics in place that work according to certain rules. And it's the users who reach the full potential of these mechanics. So yes, I was able to make a little circuit to light a lamp with redstone. But there are people, for example, who have built a huge computer where you can see a screen. You can see the full projects on YouTube. I'll put it in the notes of the episode.

What's interesting too, is that one of the key aspects of Minecraft and its culture is that nothing I just said is explained in the game. Especially when the game was released 15 years ago. There is no tutorial in the game, there is no instruction. You just start in Minecraft. It's like a trial and error. Yeah, but what do you do when you're 10 years old and you want to find a way to do something in Minecraft? You find a cheat code. Well, you search on YouTube. For a large part of Generation Z, Minecraft has become a gateway to web culture.

Many of the biggest YouTubers in the world started by creating Minecraft videos. The first video on the MrBeast channel, for example, the most followed YouTuber in the world, is a Minecraft video. A whole generation was raised with Minecraft videos, and this universe only got more complex with the years. The advent of the SMP style content, so Survivor Multiplayer, made Minecraft content creators started collaborating collaborate together, to build universes together

and also to create stories. I think all of this culminated, and this is really a quick crash history of Minecraft, all of this culminated with the creation of the Dream SMP during the pandemic. The Dream SMP was a multiplayer universe around the YouTuber Dream, who was at one point the most popular Minecraft player in the world because he made videos of the speedrun style, where he tried to kill the dragon as quickly as possible. It's a manhunt format where people try to kill him while he tries to finish Minecraft. So it became extremely popular in 2019, in 2020, and he created the Dream SMP.

What is it? It's a universe? That's it. It's a multiplayer universe around him where several most popular youtubers in the Minecraft scene interacted, created characters and waged wars against each other and all that live on the internet. It was one of the most committed communities I've ever seen on the internet. Honestly, on Twitter, on Instagram Instagram, YouTube, it generated millions and millions of likes, views, it generated discussions on Twitter. It was a complete corner of the internet, the Dream SMP. It was an online space that was filled with very young teenagers.

It's really a canon event for a lot of Gen Z to have been fans of Dream SMP when they were 12-13 years old. This online space was also ultra progressive. Even I would say, and this is still a big claim but it's my observation, I would say that the caricature and a lot of the anti-woke mainstream backlash started online in my opinion because of how the Dream SMP fans talked about politics online. Oh yeah? How did they talk about it? I'll give you an example of how we created this caricature of Dream SMP fans. At the time, we were talking about a 14-year-old kid with a green and blue mushroom cut who identifies as half-sexual and who likes furries. It was like the caricature of a pre-teen fan of the MSMP. It was like a regrouping of that and it became the meme

to talk about them like that. But right before it hit the mainstream in pop culture, the anti-woke backlash, it was already... we commented on this culture like that. But if I'm not mistaken, the blue Hair Girl is also a quite popular group. So when did it start? It peaked during COVID. At the beginning of COVID? Yes, at the beginning of COVID. Because ultimately, all the creators who were involved in the Dream SMP were denounced for certain forms of grooming.

As there are almost no creators of the Dream SMP who are still active. There were a lot of fanfiction. You know, it was also a corner of like, what is the fanfiction website? Wattpad. It was crazy. But there was a lot of lore. There was a lot of lore and one of the main parts of that, when it came to the peak, is that the main character, the protagonist, Dream, was wearing a mask.

He had never revealed his face, we could only hear his voice. It made these young fans, women, particularly, create stories, draw it, put it on stage. It was easy to project all kinds of fantasies about him, since he was wearing a mask. It's really like a white screen, really. Exactly. And one of the most viral moments on Twitter is when he made his face reveal and everyone was disappointed. They look like what? They look like a nerd playing Minecraft.

I don't think he's gay. So my verdict is that he doesn't look gay at all. That's true, but everyone was disappointed, especially from the angle he tilted his face. He could even look like a love vampire. Like literally. I'm talking about this Minecraft period because I think it's the period where Minecraft was the most mainstream. Because there was really a group of young people who had a huge fan base. But Minecraft has always been in its prime. There have always been YouTubers who played Minecraft since YouTube existed. It's been a phenomenon that's not comparable

with a lot of people in this generation. It's not my generation, I think. It's maybe a little younger than me. It was released in 2009. It was released when I was 12 years old. I was 19, but I was already in Meggy Light's Zproust. Sorry, I'm't like that.

Minecraft would have always been in its prime. What I just told you happened while creators were making Minecraft videos. All youtubers had a Minecraft arc. Even I played Minecraft on Twitch. It's a game that is undemodable. It's meditative, it's therapeutic, I would even say it's contemplative. There are two modes. I think there's a very contemplative mode. After that, there's a mode where you can fight like dragons. Yeah, but not necessarily fight like dragons. There's just a creative mode and a survival mode.

But even in survival mode, it's contemplative. A creative mode and a survival mode. It seems to me that it's really like a beautiful paradise. Today I'm in creative mode, tomorrow I'm in survival mode. One of the memes on the internet that you can really see on TikTok or whatever, at least once a year, everyone has a Minecraft obsession that lasts 3 weeks. This game is never out of fashion. And I just want to put it in numbers, Minecraft is the video game that has been sold the most

of all time, with 350 million copies sold. Just to put it in relation to the others, the second is Grand Theft Auto V which was sold 210 million times followed by in third position Wii Sports which was sold 82 million times. But Wii Sports doesn't really count because the game was included in the Wii. But just look at the difference between 350 million and 82 million. It's not even comparable in terms of magnitude. And then in this list, there are all the games of the 80s. There's Mario, there's Tetris, all these other games.

It's not even comparable with these games. So it's an immense cultural force. That's it. The link between the domination of this game and its involvement with the creation of digital content is indeniable. And we could say the same thing for GTA, so Grand Theft Auto. Both have a little bit of the same thing, it's just that they are different audiences, since it's a game that says so much more, Grand Theft Auto.

I don't think it's necessarily essential to know Minecraft or to know how this game works, but if you are someone who is really interested in web culture or in a discussion, like Minecraft has a special place, it's not among the others. That's why I want to talk about the movie. Yeah, the movie is out last Friday. I mostly saw the McDonald's promo. And the people who were developing the ballets, the little gifts, the little Minecraft figurines. Which are actually skins that can be scanned and used in the game.

That's right, because Minecraft was originally a project of one person with his team, I think his name is Nutch, that's his username, I don't know his name exactly, who then sold Minecraft to Microsoft. So Minecraft belongs to Microsoft. So that's it. After all this lore, it brings us to the movie Minecraft Movie, a movie that really no one asked for. Because there are already better films. You've seen Grand Theft Hamlet, but there are already films that have been made in Minecraft too. But I still recommend it, it's a good film. Grand Theft Hamlet, I really liked it. But as you can see, we're trying to do fan service to the intellectual property, the most popular of the last 15 years. Instead of being a flop, as it should have been, because all the critics are unanimous,

the film is bad, the story is generic, the special effects are bad, well, the fans of the game just decided, or just the fans of memes in general, gave him the same treatment they gave to another classic cult. The fans of... the fans of memes in general. Yeah, for real. They gave him the same treatment as another classic cult of modern times, which is Minions 2. Oh yeah. That is to say, take the opportunity to release a film that could be considered childish and treat it ironically as if it were a masterpiece. A masterpiece.

Exactly. In the case of Minions 2, all this started in the comments comments on TikTok, where people found it so ridiculous that Minions had a second film, which was already a spin-off of the series, which already had 4 films, which were at its beginning when this generation was the target audience, whether they were children, who were now young men or teenagers at the end of adolescence. That's why they went to see the movie in suit. Exactly, that's it. So they considered it absurd that these movies continued to come out. They said ironically and mimetically that the way to go see as big a movie as Minion 2 was in a suit at the cinema. The marketing team of the movie recovered the meme. MrBeast made videos on it, and filled a room with people in suits.

They even contacted the rapper Yeet who made a special song for the minions. His music was used as a soundtrack to the meme. And here it is, the film was a huge success at the box office. It's a pretty similar situation and is happening with Minecraft because before the release of the film, a version of the movie had leaked on the internet. We could see some pretty cringe moments where the characters have replicas that are references to Minecraft, but really annoying. And now the meme is to present yourself in the cinema and give standing ovations to scenes. People started filming these applause in the cinemas in lines like Chicken Jockey or Let's Mine then Craft. Let's Minecraft. Oh my god! Is that the scenario? It was GDL by Chad JPD. I don't know, but there are lines... Let's Mine then Craft. Let's Minecraft. It's like Crazy Coochie.

Let's go to mine. Let's mine. Let's mine. Let's go mine-bri-co-li-mine. Okay. That's it? No, but... Brico mine. Mine-bri-co. Mine-bri-co. That's it, Minecraft. Yeah. Videos are circulating a lot on the internet, which attracts even more people to the cinema. I'm the best! I'm the best! I'm the best!

So people gathered at the cinema to give standing ovations to these lines. it makes sure that Minecraft, when we leave, is the biggest first weekend at the box office of the year. Finally, it's a success. I have the impression that when you're a... you know, nowadays, if you want to become a phenomenal success at the box office, you have to practically become a meme-like success. Exactly. It doesn't necessarily... it doesn't necessarily relate to the aesthetic quality of your product. Sometimes it just... It can be quite dependent.

Quite dependent, exactly. And that's it, so... Sometimes it becomes an happening that you can... And through that happening, if you participate at that moment, you generate content, you also join the movement join the trend. So you need to have a kind of pretext to go see that, so you can join a community. Exactly. So the film made 157 million in sales in Canada and the United States,

and internationally in total it made 301 million at the first weekend. What is a success? There is even a headline, I think, from Hollywood Report 2 that says, to hit Hollywood desperately needed. But now, it's not because what it sends as a signal to Hollywood, it's let's continue to pour into, I don't know, the same, let's crack old classic views, let's not take risks, let's continue to exploit great intellectual properties. While it shouldn't be that...

It depends, because I think that Hollywood also comes back to this. We were talking about this in a previous episode, the fact that Anura won the Oscar, not just one, but five Oscars. Whether it's a new studio that published the film, Leon, whether it's Sean Baker who wrote the film, directed the film and edited the film. At the Hollywood level, I think it's less rewarded to make cinema with intellectual property. There's a big criticism of that, even in all the round tables of directors who had before the Oscars. We see that the directors themselves also have a kind of bias for the realization of films inspired by intellectual property.

You know, apart from Christopher Nolan who's going to do Odyssey, I mean Ali Fajo who was fucking rewarded for Substance, which she wrote herself. I think there's still a current that's going the other way. I think it was really something from the 2010s with the success of Marvel, the success of comic book films. The fact that Marvel is collapsing and their movies are more popular. I think it's a better indicator of where Hollywood is going to go. There's really a demand for original cinema, author cinema, great ideas of original science fiction. I'm not against book adaptations. Their big trend is video games.

But it's not just that. I imagine there are great classics, let's say from a world perspective, like The Lion King, which has already been remade. Remade in 3D, now it's live, motion. Because they just released Snow White. What is it in French? Snow White. Snow White, I was going to say the Bell in the Forest of Dormant. It's not the Bell in the Forest of Dormant. It's just not that. Are you another child? Another child. I think you once you read your fairy tales...

And it was a flop too, but they put it on the back of the actress who would have been problematic or too much. What I read is that on the contrary, this actress is the key to the show, it's the good performance, it's what keeps the attention. Obviously, we don't back it, but it comes back to what I was telling you in the news. Women, vulnerable people, when they become contentious, it's not a word in French, but when they represent a risk, what do we do? The French expression is « livrer en pâture » – throw under the bus. So that's it. I'm even sure that in a few days, people will say that the film is a classic and that yes, we joke, but it's genius and they're happy to see it. It's really the same pipeline, the love to meme pipeline that I explained in the Caffé Sniper episode called « De Flûe et de Sueur ». it's this progression that we've seen for Flue, or for Addison Rae, or whatever.

It's the same progression, and I think it's very important to understand what's going on with Minecraft. Culture too, right? Because even cultural movements, it's not just online, because when we talk about culture, we talk about culture. Even political movements sometimes seem like a meme, and then it gets serious. So that's all, that was my Minecraft exposition. Well, thank you, Moniz, it was really interesting. My segment is called Meditation on radicalization and screens. Not too original, let's say. But since we talked about adolescence in a succinct way in our previous episode, I

was relatively criticized because I thought that it was talking about a little boy who suddenly radicalized, but it seems that radicalization is badly explained, it appears to be a kind of almost magical phenomenon, where the screens or his screen or his personal computer which is in the room suddenly appears as a toxic element, a poison that almost contaminates him passively, as if in the presence of screens, we were simply radicalizing their contact. The discourses that circulate highlight a kind of technological determinism that makes way for many other things, I think. I went to reread some articles on the series. We talk about Andrew Tate and also about Insells.

But that's what I find funny about this series. We just name Andrew Tate in one line, in one episode. We say Andrew Tate and shit. We don't explain anything and you tell me, and I think I agree with you, that Andrew Tate is not very central in culture, especially among young men. But even himself, he says, especially to the people who make him live algorithmically at the moment, it's the media that denounces him. There is no motion. There is no one who has the notifications on what Andrew Tate said. Or even incels. I feel like it's a phenomenon of like 10 years ago. Not that sexism and masculinism no longer exist, but it's just no longer a term that is so... They've all become neo-Nazis. That's the arc now. It's no longer the incel arc. I really think that this series was made so that we can see like just one perspective.

You know, we say we're talking about radicalization of men, but this series really talks about the reaction of parents to the radicalization of a young man. Even episode 3, which really talks about the interrogator, where we try to go deep into his psyche, he doesn't really explain what's going on with the kid. So it's really... I understand your point of view, but the way we treat this documentary in the media, for example, just in an article that was coming out, article that was on CBC, the big site is What can adolescents tell us about the radicalization of teen boys?

So it's really the focus is put on what this series reveals about radicalization of young people. Even Martine Delva wrote an article in the press, we are not masculinists, we are becoming one. What I'm trying to understand here is not necessarily the discourse of the series, more than how we receive it in the media. What is the meta-discourse? I'm not going to do a big show, like I said, I'm going to try to do it really short, but I watched the new YouTube essay of about three hours by a philosopher that I really like, Contrapoints, for those who already know it, or Natalie Wynne. She released a video on conspiracy theories.

Conspiracy, really interesting. And I also listened to a new documentary by another American documentary writer, Andrew Callahan. I'm going to put all of this in the notes. It's called Dear Kelly. This documentary also revolves around radicalization. In short, I looked at all of this and there are some brief information, some content that particularly caught my attention and I wanted to talk about it in Café Snake to try to maybe problematize, nuance all this discourse on radicalization because even me, in an angry context, whether I'm in a university or a CGEP with or without money, it's a question that comes back a lot.

You know, we come to talk about culture web and people tell us, but how do we prevent radicalization? If we had a solution to that, seriously, we would be rich. There is an excerpt in Conspiracy that I particularly liked, which really asks how we treat misinformation in the media, often through the verification of facts, so fact checking, the idea of debunking what is wrong. And that's often how the media finally approach web culture. Maybe less and less, but I think it's becoming dominant. And she says that the problem with that is that it's not necessarily a very effective use of our time. Because while you're trying to debunk false information, the time it takes you to do it, well, conspirators can invent

100 other false information. So what could be more interesting to do is to understand how we become a conspirator, why we eventually become addicted, we develop a dependency also to conspiracy theories. And she tells us that after all her research, because I think it's been like a year since she read about the subject, she established that the reason why we became conspirators was mainly to to meet some deep psychological needs. And I'm going to name them. The first need would be to relieve a form of fear. I often talk about this when I talk about storytelling, to cement the world. Any form of writing of the present, of the world, of the reality in which we live, it's a way to

exercise control over reality. When we fall into conspiracy theories, the world around us makes sense instead of being arbitrary. The notion of the real that would be arbitrary is eminently frightening. So when we think that everything happens for a reason, as for example with religion, spirituality, I also talked about it in another episode, obviously it reassures us. So it comes to meet one of these needs. Then she says it would help meet an inflated self-esteem that I translate as a need to feel important. So according to many researchers who are interested in conspiracy theories, this idea of having access to a secret, hidden knowledge, of being the person who thinks for herself, who doesn't let herself be done, who questions the system.

It's really the Contrarian state of like, I think for myself. As opposed to the Nermis or the sheep who believe everything they are told to believe, well, it gives them a feeling of importance. They will play another role that I would refer to as the sacrificial hero, which I'm talking about more and more. A kind of martyr almost who would be persecuted, but who has the role, who plays the role of a justifier who fights the forces of evil and even compares this character to Don Quixote. I found that really funny because last week I was saying to Mounir that it's a novel that is very important historically in the history of literature. I was like, I have the impression that I have to

read this book, that it has to do with the state of the world. And we said we were going to read it. The other thing is that she notices that there are a lot of people who have fallen into conspiracy to avenge themselves for a humiliated subject. She says that she becomes a conspirator after an episode of public humiliation. For example, the case of Naomi Wolf, who was very well investigated by her doppelganger, Naomi Klein. So in 2019, she was a fairly public, liberal feminist who wrote books about the beauty myth. She experienced a public humiliation where she was in an interview at the BBC. She was being interviewed on her book, and the journalist was asking her about the validity

of one of the central arguments in her book, and realized that there was confusion in the legal terminology of the contribution of Naomi part, which means that she misunderstood the term and she built her whole book around that term. What was the term? I don't know, but that's what happened. And from then on, she changed, she became conspiratorial and just like, cranked as fuck. Conspiracy is an appeal to people who feel humiliated because it externalizes blame and casts you as the hero fighting back 2000 years ago had a guy called Jesus sat here and said these same things you would still be laughing

It's really really funny that we've not really moved on that much Of course for everyday non celebrity conspiracies the source of that humiliation might be more subtle It could be a divorce, losing a job, or just a feeling that your life didn't turn out the way you wanted it to. I said the N-word. You told me, Yo Daphne, don't say that. And then, instead of taking responsibility for saying something that wasn't so delicate that hurt people around, I'm going to say no. Yo, I defend freedom of expression. Not only do I refuse responsibility, but I become a hero of a t-shirt that defends a noble cause, freedom. Obviously,

we see this in men who feel even humiliated by modernity itself, by the reconfiguration of work, of the economic spheres, who no longer play the same role they played before. But, and I find that interesting because we don't really talk about it often, they say that there are a lot of women who will fall into conspiracy theories through the pipeline of alternative medicine, the culture of well-being, all the... And just the maternity too. Yeah, but why do they do that? Because they would have lived humiliating and frustrating experiences with mainstream medical professionals. I lived that non-stop, especially strangely with gynecologists. You finally live a treatment that is misogynistic and

then you fall, you are interested in alternative medicine. It's the pipeline that leads you to conspiracy theories. She says that there are also a lot of women who joined Kwanun, for example, because of a rhetoric in the middle of everything, which took up a lot of discourse that we can hear in feminist spheres, where we expose, quote-unquote, great sexual criminals, or even say that we save children. What I find central is that when we are part of this rewriting

of the world, it's really a writing company. I find that interesting as a literary. It makes us feel like we are important in the world. We feel like we matter. It's so central and fundamental. To be really obsessed with the people who questioned health measures during the pandemic, I watched a lot of their live shows. And what I saw the most was the community. It was the social aspect, the thing in the middle of a pandemic. People were in their lives, in their chats, in their demonstrations, in their gatherings. And there was a form of community that was very present, of help. The last need, or at least the last explanation that brings it, is the denial of privileges.

So as we know, the privilege discourse, the woke discourse, we all participate in a system of exploitation in various degrees. It's not because we're monsters, but it's because sometimes it's a passive inertia, it's just because it's in the system we live in, it can make us feel ashamed, guilty. people, God forbid, conspiracists, on the other hand, always assure you that you are at the bottom of the pyramid. You are here. This validates your pain and sense of victimhood, and it protects you from having to consider that you may in some way be involved in the oppression of other people.

So being in a conspiracy theory finally validates all the suffering you can feel, because conspiracy theories often say that you are at the bottom of the pyramid, and that at the top, there's a kind of mastermind, a leader, who's going to lead the world, a bit like a puppet with his puppets. There's no direct mention of screens, nor even the technology in the explanation that ContraPoints gives. Contrary to the discourse that is often heard in mainstream media. I don't think we should evacuate the role of technology or the affordance of certain platforms

that will favor certain speaking at the expense of others, but I think we really need to try to be interested in the general culture at large. Which brings me to the documentary Dear Kelly by filmmaker Andrew Callaghan, which investigates the life of a good man, Kelly Johnson, a patriot who participated in a White Lives Matter gathering that he met in 2021. He starts to obsess a little about this figure by finally thinking about the ancestors, the beliefs of Kelly Johnson, and wondering why he radicalized towards the far right. We learn that even before joining the Kwanun and all that,

Kelly started his descent into hell, even his complete descent, because he lost his house. His house was seized by a private loaner of money called Bill Joyner. From that moment on, it's as if his life had been ruined. What I found interesting in the documentary, in particular, is the importance of the material conditions in this kind of radicalization. And then we are told, for example, at the very beginning of the documentary, that among the emigrants in the capital, on January 6, 2021, 60% had declared bankruptcy, 50% of them had severe debts, and 20% had recently lost a house. So that's still a revealing statistic, I think, and there's this effect where you live in a very material crisis.

And it's not just the statistics that you gave them, it's not among everyone who was there, it's among them who stopped. So it's the only ones who were able to verify their background, we don't know everyone who was there. I'm not going to say more about the film, but to return to the question that the two films pose, or even that the teachers or all kinds of people pose. It's how to choose your computer diet today, how to influence young people, how to guide them. I'm going to put an excerpt from an interview with Joshua Starela, who is an artist and also a web researcher, and the documentary writer Kalahan.

This is actually, this is interesting, right? Because we're kind of, we're in this crisis of like legacy media. You don't trust the narratives that are being told to you. And you kind of need some trustworthy source to interpret the events of the world, right? To some degree, we both fulfill this role. We're like, we look at things that are happening and then report back to people. But what are the criteria?

What makes legitimacy and trust in the people that we find in social media? How does someone choose you versus, I don't know, Kaisanat or the next guy, for example? Like, what makes you trust a personality to interpret the world? I think that, one, a consistent track record of not lying to people, but I think, two,

the future of trust in media is people being more transparent about their biases. Part of the problem and the distrust with legacy media in general is that when you're in journalism school, when you're being trained as a formal journalist, they teach you that you that you are objective, that you're gonna be a part of the fourth estate and you're not supposed to feel any kind of way. You're supposed to be like the supreme bearer of truth-telling. But the fact is nobody is objective. Everybody is biased

because they're conditioned by the way that they grew up. Like we're talking about with me growing up that way. If I grew up somewhere else and had a different set of circumstances I might have a totally different political perspective. So the future isn't more objectivity, it's people just being transparent about their own biases and how they stand on things. Part of the distrust about legacy media is they would never and how they stand on things. Part of the distrust about legacy media is they would never tell you they were slanted. No. Bill O'Reilly's no spin zone. You know what I mean? Like Anderson Cooper 360. Like what? What bias? We're telling you how it is.

Yeah. And so it was like this double gaslighting vector chamber where people are like what the fuck? You guys are biased. You know, when we talk about the media crisis, the trust crisis, post-truth, post-fact, there's this idea that when we listen to traditional media, I'm going to take the example of Radio Canada, and that they declare themselves as the pillar of truth, of neutral information, facts. Objectivity. But obviously, there's a cognitive dissonance.

We have the impression of being gaslighted. And it brings me back to a Facebook status I wrote just to finish. Personally, I dream of a traditional, digital media, whatever, that takes a position in favor of human rights, of the person, that is transparent in relation to his politics, his position. And in this same order of ideas, I came across the kind of editorial policy of a magazine that I used a lot in the early

20s called The New Inquiry, so a little intellectual essays on various topics of current politics and art. And Earth says, we've never pretended to live in a world where neutrality was affordable let alone morally defensible. So I think that in the political, media world in which we live, no I don't think neutrality is something possible, but it's not even something that we should ethically aspire to. That's it. Let's go! The cultural recommendation, me and Daphnon were at the screening of the series L'Ibre Des Maintenants, which was screened by Guillaume Wagner and directed by Patrice

La Liberté. I'm really a big fan of Patrice La Liberté, he's the one who directed the first Quebec film funded by Netflix, called Jusqu'au Déclin. I liked the series, I recommend it to you, it's available on Electrode2.tv. I think it's still at the crossroads between Friends and... It's not really Euphoria, but it's the same kind of vibe that we tried to capture. But not really Euphoria. But I think it's a show where we have 5 protagonists who are in the middle of the 20s, the beginning of the 20s, who all live in co-location. I think the language, the dialogues are really well done. And it's brilliantly realized by Patrice à la Liberté.

So I really liked the first four episodes, I can't wait to see the rest. And I hope, I think it's one of those Quebec series that could have the potential to work well for young people. Did you like that, Daphne? Yeah, I liked it. It really made me think of my years in co-location. You know, like at one point you see them all in circles, scratching the guitar and singing motherfucking Asshole. And I lived the same moment. That's what she told me when we listened to her. It was Café Snake. Thank you Daphné.

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