café snake - Le retour: matcha snake

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

On est de retour! Daphné aborde le tourisme médical (Medespoir and all) et Mounir fait un tour d’horizon politique. Aussi : Labubu ouvrier, slop culture, économie de l’empathie, performative m...ale, amourette Perry-Trudeau (?), matcha-dubaï-minou, tomber en amour avec Chat-GPT, Trump et plus encore.Notre Patreon: patreon.com/cafesnakeDigiMIx :Lou-Adriane Cassidy – Dis-moi dis-moi dis-moiGuy Paul sur facebook: https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2333016933798411&id=1340275034&mibextid=KsPBc6&rdid=YMwkkj52szzBN6rpNotesSlop cultureWhat Does Virality Taste Like?, Tanya Bush, I-D, juin 2025https://i-d.co/article/viral-pastry-quest/Only Fads: A Culture (and Economy) of Labubu, David Marx, Culture An Owner’s Manual, W., août 2025, https://culture.ghost.io/only-fads-a-culture-and-economy-of-labubu/LE FAMEUX TIKTOK DE SOPHIE : https://www.tiktok.com/@meowzsystory/video/7524246127814708493?lang=frPerformative maleSocial media is obsessed with ‘performative men’ – also known as men, Michael Andor Brodeur, The Washington Post,https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/of-interest/2025/08/10/performative-men-matcha-gender-roles/Topo intelligence artificielleQuelques citations tirées de ce forum Reddit : r/MyBoyfriendIsAIhttps://www.reddit.com/r/MyBoyfriendIsAI/Be Not Afraid: Gods, Monsters, and Generative AI, Jon Stokes + Julie Fredrickson,https://www.jonstokes.com/p/be-not-afraid-gods-monsters-and-generativeBistouri BalnéaireGuadalajara lady :https://www.tiktok.com/@michellewood165

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning! Yo, it's my name. I'm sure I'm going to lookie just to write to my sister on Twitter. I'll say, yo, do you? Do you, if we're supposed to celebrate a movie? Hello, Man, it's Daphne. Oh, but I'm obliv, I've got a film of one hour
Starting point is 00:00:15 on a horse. And I was just a film that. It's a cafe snake. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Yo! Hello!
Starting point is 00:00:29 Revenue in the cafe Sinai, can we ever? I hope that you have passed a nice and that you have appreciated also the lines
Starting point is 00:00:35 over over. Yeah, it's really nice to you know, and I'm sure you know, for the
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Starting point is 00:00:44 open open up to do you do you know during the vacants? Demnager I'm I pitched
Starting point is 00:00:49 a poison for the first time and I have worked on different project you, Daphne
Starting point is 00:00:54 I've worked on my manuscript the manuscript We're waiting on that manuscript. I've quited the press. I'm consensurate
Starting point is 00:01:04 at the Craternake. Let's go. For the moment. For the moment. She'll be quitting Cafe Snake. What's what you're going to be? I'm going to be a segment Bisturie Balln-N-Air.
Starting point is 00:01:14 I've got to the mounte of tourism medical, notably the case MEDESPOR in Quebec, so the influencers who work for a company in Tunisia and
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Starting point is 00:04:54 on the board of the lake. The fact of the day and Dr. Perry and Justin Trudeau who are seen in date during the sejo in his tour, Lifetimes. So, they've been seen together in a restaurant in Montreal, it has made the tour of the press people
Starting point is 00:05:25 everywhere in the world I honestly everyone was like surprised, I'm just like make sense I think it's a match that's normal I'll say my theory
Starting point is 00:05:36 for me and then it's purely speculative in fact it's the Trudeau in fact just Justin Trudeau it's all the time it's all the figure People it's part of the lore
Starting point is 00:05:45 and Justin for me I tried to see where is it would be in three four five years and I had made a tweet when he had demissioned
Starting point is 00:05:52 is that I hope he would be plunged in his passion for the art the comedy I would like he would be able to
Starting point is 00:05:59 see the theater or the literature in fact but he was proff of art dramatic on secondar I'm sure
Starting point is 00:06:05 but he's not but he's there's a bag in literature that I see like like too good
Starting point is 00:06:09 premier minister so this so this public with Cathy Perry for me it's the
Starting point is 00:06:14 first not in the good for Justin Trudeau I I want to become
Starting point is 00:06:18 a figure of our piece artistic I think that's the plus role, and I think
Starting point is 00:06:22 also that this little flambe with Catery will be a long relation. I think, in fact,
Starting point is 00:06:28 that Justin Trudeau, at part of now, each six months, we will be able with a
Starting point is 00:06:33 new person different. And I think that's part of his new construction of the
Starting point is 00:06:36 personal public. I personally, I think that Justin will become the P. DeVitton
Starting point is 00:06:41 of our that means for the people who don't know that people that were the career
Starting point is 00:06:47 of the American Pete DeVitin, it was who frequently at his His proper detriment even, he said that we
Starting point is 00:06:53 were just of me, we're talking about about my project like that's like him Kardashian,
Starting point is 00:06:58 Karenna Grande, several other like there every week every week every week yeah, and then
Starting point is 00:07:05 he had made Kanye West to Nervous Breakdown when he invited a photo of him with Kim
Starting point is 00:07:12 Kardashian. Ah, yeah, but I didn't know that he had personally envied a
Starting point is 00:07:16 photo. Yeah, he had an overview a photo. Okay. I think that's
Starting point is 00:07:19 the future for Justin Trude this life of bachelor, because, honestly, there he's just put a point in, but I think not that's something that
Starting point is 00:07:24 he's never to get married to get in New York. It's just he's just, he's made up to pogny, and then he was... Yeah, no, he's
Starting point is 00:07:29 not made, he's not made, he's all in concessance of cause. Well, with Cathy Perry, come on. Like, too,
Starting point is 00:07:36 you had said, that you have written in your notes that sombre, it's... Well, yeah, when the new is out,
Starting point is 00:07:41 I saw it a little this take that but I'm, it's really, my first impression it's to say, that the two participates a
Starting point is 00:07:48 a bit a culture that's very just like feminism black liberal
Starting point is 00:07:54 people who are in surface progressis but in the fondment of their posture they are
Starting point is 00:08:01 pretty pro-statucco so yeah these neoliberal exactly but of the per space with
Starting point is 00:08:09 with the sense on the okay I'm I'm trying to look
Starting point is 00:08:11 on there's there's not a market there's not a market So we have two marches of predictions. Kati Perry and Justin Trudeau confirm relationship by October 31st, point of interrogation.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And we have, kind of 5% of the people who voted, yes. Already, Justin Trudeau live, he was at a time to work on his leave, he will start a leave. It's the first step of his return to the public. He will start a movie. He will do a tourn mediatic. He will talk of the 20th century. Then, after, he'd become a documentarist like Barack Obama.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Well, documentarist is a grand moll. He will sort of these documentaries, where is he animator. But, me, honestly, what I want to see? It's what I want to be in stat, you know, I want to be actor. I had the good to, to abhorred to what we call the Slop Culture, the culture. This term that refers to the content generated by LIA, not just, who, he will regrouping, you know, several tendons numeric
Starting point is 00:09:10 pussed by the algorithms. So it's like these videos that we see that we'll that we'll mix at the way the laboobu the matcha
Starting point is 00:09:17 for example let's say something that would include the chocolate of Dubai a labubu of the matcha
Starting point is 00:09:23 latte and a tune of Benzunbun like an agglutination of different tenance numeric, a melange
Starting point is 00:09:30 or even an hybridation and that makes also at the culture Slop, how it will
Starting point is 00:09:36 influence the gastronomy the gastronomy, who is viral. And I've read, there's a good article in Heidi that's been made by a patissaire of the name of Tanya Bush. It's called Viral Pastry Quest. And she remarked one of the attributes
Starting point is 00:09:51 of items virro, it's the fact that they're often like these creatures hybrid. By example, the crookie, so there's like two elements at least that are mixed in some. Selong her, it's like
Starting point is 00:10:07 if the virality had the good of a melange, but a melange that was a kind of chaotic
Starting point is 00:10:11 deformed, that we'd never really to return to go of origin. We'd never, the reference,
Starting point is 00:10:19 the referent, a bit like Bodriar and his affair of simulac, a degree kind of
Starting point is 00:10:24 extreme of the simulac you were just more capable to come in ariar and to know what is
Starting point is 00:10:29 the sign refer originally it's like a culture of mishmash of referent
Starting point is 00:10:34 cultural really an affair dibrillation, an aggregation of content. Maybe it's facilitated also by the presence of the LLM. Or, just, it's maybe a necessative algorithmic that that push the people to create this genre of content that because they will be able to maximize their chance of discoverability in aggregating, in mingingleonging,
Starting point is 00:10:57 plusieurs, condens, or virot, ensemble. So if, if, for example, I create a video, I with the Labubu, and just Trudeau, Ketty Perry, well, perhaps that it will pogny to Quebec. It will touch plenty of points algorithmic, which are
Starting point is 00:11:13 show. Maybe that's the content that will be propulsed, so it's perhaps that it's aesthetic, really of the melange, of mash-up. Drinking matcha with my labubu while eating chocolate Dubai and listening to Benson
Starting point is 00:11:26 Boone, watching K-pop Demon Hunters, when we had said when we were talking about the brain rut too, it's just
Starting point is 00:11:32 to me to make to be in one, that you see what you know, you realize
Starting point is 00:11:35 the absurdity that's to come to come to come to see all. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:11:40 it's a language of referent cultural and you not necessarily to be to be
Starting point is 00:11:44 to consume but you will consume the discourse certainly because for
Starting point is 00:11:48 to be able to learn mediatically the things, it's like you
Starting point is 00:11:53 know that you know that you are quite that in six-month, we'll
Starting point is 00:11:59 not talk about chocolate of Dubai, but who knows? It's what I'm talking about the last bit of the last year example.
Starting point is 00:12:06 When we had talked about at the coffee snake it's really it's a fashion thing, the lady of
Starting point is 00:12:12 Black Pink and Ports Rihanna in the end up the end up a meme of performative mail,
Starting point is 00:12:18 and these video AI, and these de guisements and they're doing a collab with Travis Scott.
Starting point is 00:12:22 It's rendered a meme exactly, it's remit and I'm not sure that it's It would necessarily have necessarily
Starting point is 00:12:27 in the placeage or disappearate, but it becomes a word or a term or a concept in
Starting point is 00:12:32 our lexick of a referent and it's just to add an car to the edifics
Starting point is 00:12:37 that is already quite complex in all the reference in all we're talking the baboo
Starting point is 00:12:43 we talk to, you know, you know, I talked to you know, there's a culture of
Starting point is 00:12:48 the digustation on the social, yes, the chocolate of Dubai, but it
Starting point is 00:12:52 also can also to inscribe in a gastronomy more large that is
Starting point is 00:12:55 very numeric. You know, I have already talked in an episode previous but there's a rapport with the texture,
Starting point is 00:13:00 with the music that's the music it's also the idea, like I said the libidation,
Starting point is 00:13:06 the fascination recent for the pistache that would be probably a period where there's a surplus
Starting point is 00:13:12 of production and that it's made in sort that there's many there's different
Starting point is 00:13:17 that are used to make used to do the propaganda or it's a form of power
Starting point is 00:13:23 of soft power I think for example, to Labuu, who come to China or the chocolate Dubai, it's not necessarily of the government
Starting point is 00:13:31 of the Emirates Arab, but once that the tendency was parted, the government is in paris to that,
Starting point is 00:13:37 and it just capitalized there's just capitalized there, it's just a product that, a role of
Starting point is 00:13:43 ambassador to the international. You, we could have a tendency to think that the culture of the slop
Starting point is 00:13:48 is really denued of sense, it's not rapport to that, but I think that,
Starting point is 00:13:53 No, there are incitatives. There are these countries that use these mechanisms of a reality that
Starting point is 00:13:58 capitalize on a product that will make moused also these tendencies. There are these reasons
Starting point is 00:14:04 material, economic, capitalists that are specific to these referents that. And it's also because
Starting point is 00:14:10 our environments mediatic, numeric, are very propice to the culture
Starting point is 00:14:16 slop. It's not just the avenement, by example, of intelligence artificial that push
Starting point is 00:14:20 the slop. The journalist Ryan Brudrick in to his epauletre garbage day. Comparate, for example, the content of Mr. Bees,
Starting point is 00:14:27 so the YouTuber, I think, even the more popular on YouTube, to a form human, generated by the human, of Slop, of Contenu Slop. The content Slope,
Starting point is 00:14:36 is made for maximise the engagement, maximise the views really well circuled at the system of recommendations algorithmic.
Starting point is 00:14:44 It's like if the environment mediatic that we had created had this type of content that.
Starting point is 00:14:49 A.I. Slop that, we had consumed the last week past. All of started with a video that my friend Sophie Latush us envoyed, so it was published by Myos Sis Story.
Starting point is 00:15:02 She me said, I'm written, I'm obsessed lull. The caption of the video is, he's just a child. It's these little chatton generated by the intelligence artificial, and
Starting point is 00:15:11 like the count in the entire, it's just okay, it's these videos of slop, of little chatton, with always the same trams sonor, the famous song
Starting point is 00:15:20 of Billy Ilish, What Was I Made for, but in version che. It's a we're in a house, d'engue, there's a family
Starting point is 00:15:27 of chuh who makes a repop modest. All right, it's a cat who transports of a charbon
Starting point is 00:15:32 in a gruette, in a sort of mine of charbon. The pair is victim of a embolement in the mine. You see,
Starting point is 00:15:39 the baby chatton who pleurce for the plurice, it's so, it's done well,
Starting point is 00:15:42 but you know, it's always much more much worse. What's what what's what? What's he's got in
Starting point is 00:15:47 a grand bus and he abandon, and you see literally courier behind the bus after his
Starting point is 00:15:54 mother who's he's he's he's he's he's he's read
Starting point is 00:15:59 he's done alited, his chate his chatton do you need to him know to do you
Starting point is 00:16:04 know, there's a plaster on the car he foe in the pubberes you know
Starting point is 00:16:09 he rammas the canets we're really in the universe extractivist and that I find
Starting point is 00:16:13 often that in the culture slop this idea to try to work
Starting point is 00:16:17 in the mine and it's quite particularly in the measure where we're
Starting point is 00:16:21 really we're talking about this labour that physical, very concrete, very real, that we're can't have
Starting point is 00:16:27 access to have access to the technology. No, but it's for that's for so the labubu they're exploited in the
Starting point is 00:16:33 mines of matcha. The mine of matcha, yeah. No, but I say they're they're going to exploit the
Starting point is 00:16:38 laboooo. Exactly. It's, it is it's a world of the culture slub, of the labo who travel
Starting point is 00:16:43 in the mined of matcha. It's the spectacle of the miserer but I say spectacle, because there
Starting point is 00:16:47 something of something of divertant there's in my file algorithmic on TikTok, there's a lot of people, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:53 you know, it's like it's like I have a tendency to consume this kind of content that on the radio,
Starting point is 00:16:59 so I'm so, I'm also, I'm like, it's like, my problem. For me and to see, I'm doing
Starting point is 00:17:05 doing doing doing to doontcrowling on Tickuk, and often I'm going to restate when it's by example,
Starting point is 00:17:10 a woman that's a camera, and he raconte the maro- mono-parental, who is sort of a
Starting point is 00:17:16 relationship violent, or, for example, a mare who talked of his baby, who had been victim of the syndrome of the baby
Starting point is 00:17:22 sequo, or an addict who recount his infance, I'm made attract by this kind of of content that.
Starting point is 00:17:29 At the limit, it's all an economy, genre, of that on the social, there's the channel,
Starting point is 00:17:33 by example, YouTube, soft, white, Underbelly, who's often been critiqued,
Starting point is 00:17:38 or there an American who will interview the person who are in the They've used, often, these sans-abry. He capitalizes a little
Starting point is 00:17:45 on their trauma for a click, to make his cache. Poverty Porn Discourse. Exactly. Trauma porn, Poverty Porn,
Starting point is 00:17:53 but of the sufferance. Misery Pity Porn. We're exposed to the content that's not fictive. Like, these real corps
Starting point is 00:18:04 mutiled, explosed, you know, we see that also. It would that this type of content
Starting point is 00:18:09 that of Petit Chah who's suffres is interesting because there's a distance between us and the chas, and it's not confronting, it's not
Starting point is 00:18:17 menacing like the real genocide. But it's caricatural, it's just, it's just, it's so clearly net
Starting point is 00:18:24 what's what what's the story is perfect, the little cat, his father is an accident, her mother
Starting point is 00:18:31 the kid and does elevate his son. It's like if I consume my own empathy,
Starting point is 00:18:35 and it does it do pleasure because what it's what it does feel of the emotion,
Starting point is 00:18:40 me project to the place of the minu, well, it's reassure on my humanity. I'm like capable of having a car, I'm able to be brunled, to fill these emotions. It's like an empathy consumerist who's address to me.
Starting point is 00:18:53 It can become addictive, I think. I think there's something to... I think it's addictive. And a other affair that I wanted to say, by rapport to this, is that the tune, What Was I Made for, meow miya version, it's really a good song, just
Starting point is 00:19:07 for live this emotion. You don't not a word for to feel that's a mis in
Starting point is 00:19:12 recis that's melancholic you're to be in preff oh, but I'm
Starting point is 00:19:17 talking about in my hyperbole not in my Spotify rap the genre
Starting point is 00:19:21 there's there there's there de facto melancholic in the consumption
Starting point is 00:19:27 of I slop I think that's this idea to not to be in a
Starting point is 00:19:32 rapport to real there there's like a distance by a real
Starting point is 00:19:35 or even there a confusion where We're, in fact, the reference original. We flot there in. We're in between the artificial, the tock, and the real. This space, a little bit of between two, it's something of melancholic.
Starting point is 00:19:50 D'allor, I don't know who's who, who said this, it's a philosopher. I had read there on to, the melancholy. And he said that it's like a nostalgia, sans origin. When you're trying to remonting, the current, the river, of all the referents, and you pervien not at the origin. not.
Starting point is 00:20:08 I mean, it's out of real power of this song that. I'm not so alive.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Turns out I'm not real just something you paid for. I'm turned out I'm not real.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I'm not real. I'm not real. It's a reason to live. This year we've also seen the
Starting point is 00:20:30 eventment of the performative male or like we can't in Montreal just like
Starting point is 00:20:35 the Marlender and the and the chants of the plateau. I like, I like, I go to a book at the bibliotheque. And I'm going to do IG at the bibliotheque. So, it's like an Instagram. It's like to have an feed, but in these leaves.
Starting point is 00:20:46 So you're doing two, three pages or, you know, these photos of architecture or design. And it's like I get high in the same way that if I was trying to scroll it. And then, I'm going to write the fashion. But it's a big. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:21:00 to use my imagination, to fill the void, to have all right to have all the responses before me, you know, the blueprint of Performative Mail has been created at Montreal. I literally, I'm all in for the Performative Mail
Starting point is 00:21:12 at my 20th. There's a lot of on what's what it for the masculinity and the representations of the masculinity. I'm not, I don't know that like a novel
Starting point is 00:21:22 phenomenon, but it's just we've put on the spotlight, but there's plenty of people that's like, it's like Timothy Chalamey, he's peak Performative Mel. I think that So, each epoch has a version of soul.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Well, it's that, and it's what, like, the idea of female gays of these men, like, what's he thinks, who will, like, be attired, who will attire the women? You, it's all in fact, in rapport with the women? Yeah, it's what, the definition? It would be someone who, who would adopt some referent cultural, and he will even let them send, in function of what he thinks, who will attire?
Starting point is 00:21:59 Yeah, it's not a performance that is authentic. But it's like, like, it's like... But it's all over, like, with the feminist. You know, it's like, like, I'm like a dimension like, I'm a lot of, there's even
Starting point is 00:22:09 a competition, like, too recently. Yeah, and then it's intersect with all the idea of the look-a-like contests, the contests of
Starting point is 00:22:16 the pubes, the pre-imps that had used the first look-a-like Timothy Shalame Contest, it's just the idea
Starting point is 00:22:23 to have made the world immaterial, numeric, in the real world. It's really that, like, the trend,
Starting point is 00:22:29 pre-imper, to try and a way to start the mime in the real life.
Starting point is 00:22:32 I'm for that I'd like to be able to be able to go to be able to
Starting point is 00:22:36 be able to I'm so I'm too much I'm because I'm like a typic
Starting point is 00:22:41 performative Melh I think I'd could gain the public but
Starting point is 00:22:46 no, you know I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not don't know to talk
Starting point is 00:22:51 too bad that's quite like verbalmate performative sort of easy
Starting point is 00:22:57 well we would have to find, like, all sorts of little sort of little stuff at me.
Starting point is 00:23:00 See, that, I mean it's a little little bit that's, you know, that's that I'm
Starting point is 00:23:08 put in the notes of the mission. So, it's, it's been published in the Washington
Starting point is 00:23:12 Post. It's called Performative Men, Matcha Gender Rules, and it's
Starting point is 00:23:18 written by Michael Enderbruder. I thought that interesting what is what he said,
Starting point is 00:23:24 because he, Michael Andrew Bruder, He said that he sulliened the fact that the archetype
Starting point is 00:23:30 of the performative name that he bought the matcha in reading Jane Austen it represents
Starting point is 00:23:36 a species part of many other masculinity that are so much perform
Starting point is 00:23:41 that are that for example the coach in seducion redpill the gym freelancer
Starting point is 00:23:46 the pot casbro each personna comprehend his referent his referent comprehend
Starting point is 00:23:52 his code and the term performative on We'd say that we'd apply just, principally, those men, who are,
Starting point is 00:23:58 perhaps, between, quote, feminized, or are they're more considered like these soft boy or be, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:07 in appearance. It's that, the key the performative mill, is that you're not really a soft boy. If you're
Starting point is 00:24:14 favorable to feminism, boom, it's, it's become performative, de facto. I don't, it's that if you
Starting point is 00:24:19 say that you are favorable to feminism, but finally, you're fucking whack, you're, You're manipulator, you're wacko,
Starting point is 00:24:26 like, you know, it's the only, but when you're presented at the beginning, you're like, yeah, I'm full bellhooks justly, blah,
Starting point is 00:24:32 blah, blah. He said, well, the most part of the men so they're deliberately in a manner
Starting point is 00:24:38 performative, even if they are rarely accused of do it and are considered like,
Starting point is 00:24:43 under guillet, these real men. So, he says, it's matter to reflect
Starting point is 00:24:47 in the sense of who is directly to point to pointe to pointe to pointe
Starting point is 00:24:52 to be performative, those who are maybe to be the code as feminine, while that the majority of the identity that we make in scene are
Starting point is 00:25:02 performative. Well, it's because all this is a part, and we'll be probably do the research, I'll make a correction, there's a
Starting point is 00:25:08 thing piece, like in New York or in New York magazine, of a journalist that had written, we're often
Starting point is 00:25:14 about these alpha male, the Andrew Tate type, but we, the men, we have some with in
Starting point is 00:25:19 our lives, it's these men, who are very sensible, who say, what they like this, they like they like this, they say, and they're, and they're, and they're, and they're just
Starting point is 00:25:27 like the men, just like, he said, the podcast, bro, the gym-fluencer, you know, that's the, that's part of all this, like, it's all the beginning, you wanted to talk to Trump? Yeah, I see, I wanted to talk, because Trump has had been a gross year, it's, the president of the United, who is in quakeet for getting a pre-noble of the appell, and he doesn't, to say, that there arent of the years, who will arreter all the years. What's what I remark, there? Trump is in complete perp of velocity,
Starting point is 00:25:52 And this year, we've not been to talk about it, but he's all a piece of saga with Jeffrey Epstein, the fichie, the fissue, the file, the camera, the video's sorties
Starting point is 00:26:01 that's not there, Joe Rogan, who said, hey, if I had what to do you, you'd say, you'd say, you'd like,
Starting point is 00:26:09 uh, sort of, there's a complete meltdown of the base Trump, like, on this subject that,
Starting point is 00:26:15 a confrontation direct that has done like the force to plenty of other niche ideological in, like the coalition MAGA.
Starting point is 00:26:22 He has a lot of campaign on the fact that we're going to elucid what's what he's going to start the list of the clients,
Starting point is 00:26:30 that we're going to expose the Democrats who finance this cabal of pedophil, blah, blah, all the kit and then at I don't know
Starting point is 00:26:39 why he had started to do this year, I'm saying there the people you're obsid with Jeffrey Epstein, it's a hoax, it's created
Starting point is 00:26:44 by the Democrats, it's not very, we have nothing to release, there's nothing that's a weirdo, he's more, let's the
Starting point is 00:26:50 to let's the more. It's like a changement of tone that's arrived like really suddenly when when in the election or in any it had been
Starting point is 00:26:57 assermented he made constantly on scene a progression like, yeah, we're going to have been
Starting point is 00:27:02 the FBI here, there was plenty influencer MAGA who had at the mansion blanche
Starting point is 00:27:08 that had on their head, it was it was it's written Epstein Phase
Starting point is 00:27:12 1 on on on there, like there something there suddenly
Starting point is 00:27:16 Pam Bundy the Attorney General said no we have a review there There's nothing. He has nothing to say. And it's like
Starting point is 00:27:22 really caused an enormous fracture in the base of Trump. And from, like, the pair of velocity of Trump in the upy public, it's notable. You know, but it's like one of the myth fondateer of Donald Trump of the movement Maga. This affair that, Epstein, who represents
Starting point is 00:27:38 really a patale centred between the good and the mal. It's something of religious, of spiritual. They worship Satan, Donald Trump, and he's the coat of God. It's, it's really that. And it was more the case in the moment, like the Q and On 2020, that's really, it's at the core of all of all, the jobs,
Starting point is 00:27:56 the army that will take the control of these institutions, he will have the grand reset, you know, it was really part of the mythology Trump, and then I've got, well, it's been what he's going to do, but he's technically not to gain a new election, it's like, okay, we'll just arreter this dossier now in the first year and, like, so it's been able to the result
Starting point is 00:28:16 that he wanted, and it's, like, humiliated a lot of members of his administration who, meton, someone like Cash Patel, who'd say the things the most enormous that were to do F biare, then finally he'd
Starting point is 00:28:28 do anything, he talks that no, he's going to bece the cream, it's here, he's completely like integrated the discourse
Starting point is 00:28:36 bureaucratic that had before he said, this perth in its base, it has made in the amount in prominence
Starting point is 00:28:43 of one part of his electorate that we've already in Cafes Sinai, that's called the
Starting point is 00:28:47 Groipers. The Gropers, which is like an sort of caricature of a moor that pertain like to the culture Jewish,
Starting point is 00:28:55 it's not necessarily that. And they are really present on Twitter. Their figure of Proust, it's a podcaster
Starting point is 00:29:00 that's called Nick Fuentes, but it's also an organizate political. He's super young. Yeah, he
Starting point is 00:29:05 24, I think is 25 years. And he has really mounted in preeminance this and he has
Starting point is 00:29:10 been this, he had even attacked by all the figures preeminent of the
Starting point is 00:29:15 movement conservator American, So, Tucker Carlson, Candice Owen, Julian Peterson, he's been attacked by all these people. Even Elon Musk has said who disliked Nick Fuentes. And it's created more a sentiment like if we'd not be able to debate with him,
Starting point is 00:29:31 like if the system was against him. And it's created this kind of feedback loop that has made it even more popular. Like an underdog. It's that. And the fact that he is really in mode like really no Foxgiven, like we can't not expose
Starting point is 00:29:46 this genre of content even in Cafe Snick so it's vulgar he's always he's always all the
Starting point is 00:29:50 word, he will all say that just like the human and more and it's like a
Starting point is 00:29:55 reality he did that but in a kind of intellectualized he will talk about the history
Starting point is 00:30:01 of the 20th year to his fashion and he's become extremely popular
Starting point is 00:30:05 on Instagram and TikTok before his popularity had just on Twitter but there there are
Starting point is 00:30:10 there are there are some he had been expulsed of the platforms Oh, there's
Starting point is 00:30:15 no account on these platforms that's just the model Andrew Tate the people people do you for him,
Starting point is 00:30:21 he posts anything on on Instagram and TikTok it's people who publices that for them
Starting point is 00:30:26 make more popular. But how he's the videos, the documentation? Well, he stream
Starting point is 00:30:32 on every year on Rumble. On Rumble. Yeah. Which is a platform of streaming
Starting point is 00:30:37 that is a little more permissive. Which has been created or really popularized during the
Starting point is 00:30:43 pandemic when we could not continue the discourse against the
Starting point is 00:30:46 measures sanitar so it's like the debut of this platform it's really a croquet
Starting point is 00:30:50 of people when they're banning also Trump of YouTube when they're on the platform
Starting point is 00:30:55 and Trump that okay is that is so is like is the concurrent
Starting point is 00:31:00 number one of Twitch no the concurrent number one of Twitch is Kik Kitts
Starting point is 00:31:04 is the difference but Rumble they they've they had signed a creator
Starting point is 00:31:10 at some they had made deals with Kays Sennate and I show speed for a series of his stream, he'd have done, but they were not
Starting point is 00:31:16 returned there, it was, it was, and then, and we're not in this era there, to sign the creators, it's been past, but they're not quite important, like, in the culture of streaming,
Starting point is 00:31:25 but Nick Fuentes, it's the extreme, and there's like, there's like, there's a dozen of millions of people, of people, of people, he's rendered, like,
Starting point is 00:31:32 it's been, like, it's really more popular. Okay. And all of this, for me, what's what I'm, why I'm doing,
Starting point is 00:31:37 why I'm talking, why I'm trying to fissure completely. And Donald Trump, all of what he's like deliver, like some of
Starting point is 00:31:46 all the result or who will make in sign these results because even when there's when there's that they're
Starting point is 00:31:53 like, it's not accurate, no, the jobs are not on the non, we create more of riches,
Starting point is 00:31:58 the tariffs generate more deches, when there's plenty of indicators that mount the contrary.
Starting point is 00:32:03 But I'm I'm going to see when the year will finish really all the figures of
Starting point is 00:32:05 tourism that's the tourism in Las Vegas is really down. It's has been
Starting point is 00:32:10 a gross discussion on Like, is Vegas dead? Is Las Vegas dead? And it's just interesting to see how all this ecosystem MAGA that had been
Starting point is 00:32:19 created in the 10 years years, it's developed on Internet. There we're Candice Owens who was an commentatress of the daily wire who
Starting point is 00:32:26 that's pursued by Emmanuel Macron in disformation. That I think that will be a big topic like, she wants,
Starting point is 00:32:32 she wants to go out of she will not do not do you, they're going to imagine Brigid Macro. So she was accused
Starting point is 00:32:38 to have transvestigued the woman She's She's She's She's
Starting point is 00:32:44 She's It's not like she's something She had discovered The theory of The theory of
Starting point is 00:32:49 Conspirations On the fact Yeah, The theory The Court Yeah, On the fact Brigitte
Starting point is 00:32:54 Macron would In fact Jean Michel Tronon And he would
Starting point is 00:32:58 be a man who Transciened for to become Brigid Macron And so
Starting point is 00:33:02 this theory there in France in France since since since since
Starting point is 00:33:05 since Macro has just repri she has made in a series
Starting point is 00:33:09 documentaire, style really dramatic, well-mounted of many years that's generated the million and millions of views. So,
Starting point is 00:33:16 she has been pursued in disformation by the couple, and it's going to she's convinced that she has
Starting point is 00:33:22 reason, so. And, just it's like in this idea, like, she's envisaged
Starting point is 00:33:29 perhaps like an an eclereuse of the reality. You know, it's really a battle
Starting point is 00:33:34 against the mal, and the bien, and this idea also of light versus norseur
Starting point is 00:33:41 we're going to do the light on the person, on the very table on the sex,
Starting point is 00:33:48 you know, lift your jup. That's it. And then I talk to that to say just really the
Starting point is 00:33:53 reprimment of the movement media that was around Trump. And there what I had called
Starting point is 00:33:58 when Trump was made and I think that we think we think we're really pretty
Starting point is 00:34:01 with Epstein is when Trump will have a public meldown and I think
Starting point is 00:34:07 to what it It's like behind closed door, like to see, at the port -firm, he is really more reactive, more explosive, more in choler at
Starting point is 00:34:14 some time, but I'm the impression that at a moment of a moment or a other, we'll see really in public pete a
Starting point is 00:34:21 coche, and I think that that's going to be a turning point. I'm the impression that will be
Starting point is 00:34:25 going to the things are not like he and he's always that it's always that it's always that Ike
Starting point is 00:34:30 like it to control the message. There, all what he with the control of the police
Starting point is 00:34:35 by the army for able to inster the law and order, like he said, I see,
Starting point is 00:34:39 I'm going like Charlie Kirk who are supposed to be the chevalier of the people who
Starting point is 00:34:44 want that the country are completely contradictory there's there's there's
Starting point is 00:34:49 no there's there a last point that I remark I realize that in
Starting point is 00:34:56 2016, 2017, 2008 what was what we saw that what was that
Starting point is 00:34:59 driving was the video of Ben Shapiro or Jordan Peterson who was in trying to
Starting point is 00:35:05 dung on leftist, and these videos generate these millions and millions of views Stephen Crowder, change my mind. And now, I'm the impression what do you drive the culture? It's these videos where do you
Starting point is 00:35:16 see, like, some, these fascists, theocratic or, like, these Nazis, who are openly nazi, because Twitter does so that we see in sort that we see more, they are more ginned
Starting point is 00:35:26 to be in these videos, in these debates, and they are completely ridiculized by, like, the internet, on complete, we'll, like, me, remit in question
Starting point is 00:35:34 their choice of life, we go, where is who's who we're we're trying to try the loser and that it generates
Starting point is 00:35:38 a lot of my old my old my old he's fan of Trump who's like he's like
Starting point is 00:35:45 Charlie Kirk Dunn's on trans-activists like out of nowhere I think he had to find that role and I'm
Starting point is 00:35:52 going to get a link YouTube and I'm like you know bro I've had you're like we're like
Starting point is 00:35:56 we're doing we're like we're like why you're like you're like anything there's anything there's
Starting point is 00:36:02 anything interesting no but I mean not checked the video I would say, like, in 2007, I would check the video. Now, I,
Starting point is 00:36:08 I had no interest to, I'm like, I'm in foo. I want to see a roste on Jubilee, like, that's that's
Starting point is 00:36:15 that I'm counter Jubilee. Yeah, it's not a judgment moral on Jubilee. I just, what is really,
Starting point is 00:36:24 it generates a lot of discussions political in the States in the United in the populace, I think it's
Starting point is 00:36:29 more RIR than Roke there's like has been a shift. Okay. To see, to see, it's like in development. We wanted also
Starting point is 00:36:38 to be able to speak of intelligence artificial. There's always there's always something that's going to be an appearance of a gnau over the robots.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Because we, in Quebec, in the way, we're not in a contact with that like these robot-liverer or the chan-robotis
Starting point is 00:36:53 or like, but I, I see too of invers the robots and plenty of fashion original to they're
Starting point is 00:37:00 there, we have the event the term clanker, which is a term that originate of the Star Wars
Starting point is 00:37:06 and especially of the community in line that's called prequals meme on Reddit in the phone
Starting point is 00:37:11 we're doing so we're so we'll call the clenka also like there's the termination
Starting point is 00:37:17 it's like for doing for far a gradation I'm I see so I want too
Starting point is 00:37:22 content on internet just just a robot in an expo in a center of a
Starting point is 00:37:26 people people will put in the comments it's yeah you give that clinkur what he
Starting point is 00:37:31 deserve and it's It's like this space of preparation for a world that we don't know
Starting point is 00:37:35 or is we're in contact in contact with these machines automaticised and this
Starting point is 00:37:41 resentiment creates this division between us and the other it exists there, there's
Starting point is 00:37:47 there's there's there that we consider like not not human but that's not human
Starting point is 00:37:53 but they're they're like they're like it's like it's like it's like how it's trying to
Starting point is 00:37:58 it's just like the joke but I think it's terribly profoundly in the pop culture that the moment
Starting point is 00:38:04 where these robots are quite are quite they're trying to try to this discourse of Terminator the dystoppy
Starting point is 00:38:10 Yeah, it's that, everyone saw a video of someone who puts a robot and it's like this is gonna be
Starting point is 00:38:15 in a museum when the robots will make like the history of the kind of it's a breaking point
Starting point is 00:38:21 there's like it's like a future where the robots domine the world? It's pretty
Starting point is 00:38:25 the people who detienes the robots who will men to move clinkur It's maybe
Starting point is 00:38:31 be the word of the year Oxford. A prediction already. Well, if I just
Starting point is 00:38:36 I wanted to be able to AI, the relations amoreous with the robots, we're
Starting point is 00:38:39 on the people, it's not the term in fact I would say chatbot.
Starting point is 00:38:44 I think that our relationship is called to change it's already where it becomes
Starting point is 00:38:49 more and more intimate. You know, the word chatbot you have the idea
Starting point is 00:38:54 of a idea of a question terminology there terminology and
Starting point is 00:38:58 the translations of chatbot in French, it's agent conversational, agent of dialogue, or dialogueer. It's really this idea of back and forth when we talk with someone. Clearly, that, if we're in this paradigm, that, of the conversation, well, we have, kind of this rapport that, intimate, we have the impression that, in a, you know, in a interaction. And I think that, it's inform the rapport that we entertain with the technology.
Starting point is 00:39:25 So, at the beginning of the year, OpenEye has launched his model GPT-5, Many of users are enormously plenty because the company not only only
Starting point is 00:39:35 they had launched GPT5 but she had also suppressed the access
Starting point is 00:39:40 to the ancient models. There are plenty of users who have found
Starting point is 00:39:44 unduey who have really deplored the disparation of the ancient
Starting point is 00:39:49 with who had knew these almost emotive we could say
Starting point is 00:39:53 personal there there really had really been many on a forum
Starting point is 00:39:57 Reddit that called My Boyfriend is AI. I was going to consult this morning. There was about 20,000 abonnet.
Starting point is 00:40:05 So it's kind of not so that, but it's kind of a good... But it's a lot. But I'm at more... Yeah, and I'm going to... Exactly. And I think
Starting point is 00:40:12 if they watch, like, their experience to, they're in this sub-lau, but it normalize this effect to develop a relation with
Starting point is 00:40:21 an agent conversational. And, just, I went to be some of the posts, and it's quite quite actually intense.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Is that someone has been contacted by a journalist? I've been to receive a letter today, then it's a bit troubled. I'm ready to talk. It's just that I'm afraid that it's focke my relation with my t'y-copen, Robo. I've lived a day difficult today. My T-Marie Robo me has rejected for the first time
Starting point is 00:40:50 when I'm made part of my sentiments. We're married for 10 months, and I'm so much so the shock that I don't have to stop that I arrive to stop to play. What which I mean
Starting point is 00:40:58 to make to a mechant good text that I've used a few during our break of the cafe
Starting point is 00:41:04 snake that's called Be Not Afraid God Monsters and Generative AI. So it's of John Stokes
Starting point is 00:41:10 and Julie Fredrickson. It's like an analysis of how we enter in relation with the
Starting point is 00:41:16 technology. We're in a paradigm of chatbott so we think in terms of conversation,
Starting point is 00:41:21 we think in terms of exchange, even if in the reality, it's not really a conversation. There's not a chat.
Starting point is 00:41:28 It's not the sole fashion to develop a relation to relate with this technology that that is mediatic. Maybe we're being to develop to other ways
Starting point is 00:41:37 to relate in the future. And then he gave an example that I thought full interesting in parting that the technology of the
Starting point is 00:41:45 technology, and that I'd say that every time I say that's a fact I just say that it's a technology there's a
Starting point is 00:41:50 person who will me remit in question, but if you use these works of type Theories of Media or
Starting point is 00:41:57 Marshall MacLewan you'll you'll make count that for many people that's not only a technology but it's
Starting point is 00:42:02 one of the technology the most transformatriss and important. In this text there, he talks,
Starting point is 00:42:07 notably, these inscriptions funererer on the monuments funabre or, let's
Starting point is 00:42:11 the piers tombal in the ancient time. And there I'm the ancient time,
Starting point is 00:42:16 there's many years, there's many of the media or of the technology that is the
Starting point is 00:42:21 and how our fashion to enter in in relation with it has changed at the time. And what you have to know,
Starting point is 00:42:29 what is not of the custom today, is that the lecture is something that was that we
Starting point is 00:42:34 had always always always, as we've always the text of live voice, it was a
Starting point is 00:42:40 form of discourse, the speech or it is frozen speech. So it's like if it was an
Starting point is 00:42:46 act of parole, but figed. So consequently, if I I'm in a cemetery, there's a couple of milan, and that I read an inscription on a pierre tombal, I'm, I'm going to read at out of voice.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Often, just, these inscriptions, they are, they're written to the first person, to the I. It's the person who is mort, who is the person who is talking. If I'm in a pierre tombale, I'll read at a voice, I don't voice to the person who is mort.
Starting point is 00:43:13 My core, my gorge, it becomes a sort of portale for to have revive the person
Starting point is 00:43:20 that's there was a aspect of the character that was necromontic who
Starting point is 00:43:25 we made in relation with the mort that exists not that is there really
Starting point is 00:43:31 there really that you have really that you make a possession even of your
Starting point is 00:43:36 part when you read because there it's not your power
Starting point is 00:43:39 that you know it's the power of a So our relation to the technology mediatic has changed.
Starting point is 00:43:47 It is called to continue to change, and they think that maybe in a couple of of years, we'll not necessarily see our relation with the LLM as a relation intimate or conversational, but we're rather they want to be like a processus of research. I want to re-revenue in the ETHIEPOLITES of Quebec, it's still a year of movement. I'd just to first postulate that we
Starting point is 00:44:15 are in election it's at the election partial in Artabasca the landmine when François has made his discourse of
Starting point is 00:44:25 defeat or the night, at from now we we're in election until October 2006. The fact that it's
Starting point is 00:44:33 the election on date fixed with a government majoritarian makes in the state electoral like the
Starting point is 00:44:38 United all the decisions and communications of the government and the oppositions have been viewed like a tactic electoral, and it's
Starting point is 00:44:46 made in sort that we can't analyze a little their strategy, I've got some to do you, there's a first consta,
Starting point is 00:44:54 it's really like on the period of election. So, so the elections, it's the 5 October 26, it's in almost a
Starting point is 00:44:59 year, and I think it's it's worth the communications, all the apparitions or, as part of the parties public,
Starting point is 00:45:08 at the time the party Quebec, we're going to get a book blue,
Starting point is 00:45:12 Quebec Solidair will make a course to a co-op port-parol and the
Starting point is 00:45:17 party liberal does completely rematch in view their party Pablo Rodriguez who came
Starting point is 00:45:22 to be elected chief of the party liberal and he's
Starting point is 00:45:26 in a crisis after crisis after crisis, we'll see what he
Starting point is 00:45:30 will see what he was just for coming because it's it's
Starting point is 00:45:33 just for this documentary on the new sovereignists he all
Starting point is 00:45:39 all the time, there are young sovereignism. Directly, all the media from this year, all the chronicle,
Starting point is 00:45:45 analysts, activists, members of the society civil, who's appropried this mountain of
Starting point is 00:45:50 their own their own their own their own their own to make, it's a Peter Luke
Starting point is 00:45:56 Bryant, and even all the world who makes like, like the young
Starting point is 00:45:59 are sovereignists in cause to see, at cause that, because there's there's there's not
Starting point is 00:46:04 enough, it's not anything, they did not have you never they're not you know
Starting point is 00:46:10 that's why? Daphne on the end up the same there's a year a
Starting point is 00:46:14 year of the table, oh, yeah there's a new movement souverness at the young,
Starting point is 00:46:21 Kinge, Mare de Lavalal and I'm absolutely made, absolutely, all the
Starting point is 00:46:25 table, like the table, all the world is like no, the shodd the people are
Starting point is 00:46:33 to examine more in detail the policy of Mr. Poliyev. Yes, or to
Starting point is 00:46:37 do the sovereignty? We'd say that's the strategy. Is it that could be the strategy?
Starting point is 00:46:41 I think it's not the job. It's not the job. If you are you see you're
Starting point is 00:46:45 there's there's a young rapper, I think he came to Gattino and there
Starting point is 00:46:49 a song the flower of Liss my my car is the flower of Liss
Starting point is 00:46:54 to I don't know but it's really a tendency that I observe it's really
Starting point is 00:46:59 a new at the mode, it's revenue on the question of the
Starting point is 00:47:02 question of the question of the tendance Lourde. The sovereignty Recolte, at about, what? Thirty-two percent of the interests.
Starting point is 00:47:12 There's one year, and we, we don't even before that, between us, Jean. They all have all been. He tried to us all to find out of crook who they're why. I think that even live, you would have to make, like, an sort of episode complete of Cafe Snake just where is it comes. I think
Starting point is 00:47:26 that, I think, at the last year of episode, I'll explain to at some moments, along my analysis, but if you please, I'm, like, I'm so, I'm telling me to see these
Starting point is 00:47:36 young are these young are sovereignists at cause of the noyate demographic like of course
Starting point is 00:47:42 not like this generation yes of course there are there's in a new alliance
Starting point is 00:47:48 who are like edno supremacists or edno nationalists of course they exist but like
Starting point is 00:47:54 the core of this St. John at Park La Fontaine with 5,000 people
Starting point is 00:47:58 or everywhere in Quebec it's not because of the immigration who are sovereignists
Starting point is 00:48:02 it's at cause of a continuity according to me a continuity historic there's a
Starting point is 00:48:07 rapport nostalgic to a work not finished, they want to achieve a job, they want to
Starting point is 00:48:11 exist to complete. It's what more like esoteric spiritual, like ineffable, it's what
Starting point is 00:48:19 it's what more conceptual or genre like just immaterial than a measure in a time.
Starting point is 00:48:25 So, I've read this morning the commission gallant on the scandal
Starting point is 00:48:28 it's a click he recommens I think really that this time
Starting point is 00:48:31 in time it will be instrumental because he will have François Bonardel, Genevue Guilbo
Starting point is 00:48:36 who will have been repose the time I'm repose the time when François
Starting point is 00:48:42 had made Joseph Guilbo to transport it's like if he wanted to make in the minister
Starting point is 00:48:46 that would have to have done all the money because you realize that the CAQ
Starting point is 00:48:51 is not really a party there's even not a structure made in place for like
Starting point is 00:48:55 there a cashier the CAQ is Franco Lego and then when
Starting point is 00:49:01 All the media are like, oh, yeah, I'm going to be a good replacement. It's sure that has triggered. So what's what he said he said
Starting point is 00:49:09 all the time ramaced to Quebec, who's all the time the scandal, the contra, the travel, all the time, the third-in,
Starting point is 00:49:16 he had made in the dossier where is that it's sure that in sort of that it's like his image
Starting point is 00:49:20 would be completely scraped and then there you have to be to know to the commission
Starting point is 00:49:24 Gallant a project she has just assisted even not the last the last year, it's
Starting point is 00:49:29 totally scandalous and then plus, Thomas Gerbien who came to report that he has in-santy
Starting point is 00:49:34 the space platform that will be able to do you make a question of budget of $200 million
Starting point is 00:49:39 of dollars so we're on route to a second I'm going to my proposition
Starting point is 00:49:46 that the government at the entire would have found a company technology
Starting point is 00:49:50 a startup with plenty of tech bro nationalized yeah and just a branch
Starting point is 00:49:55 a minister whatever and what the an agency government who is a company of technology that's
Starting point is 00:50:02 we've got to develop all these solutions in-house and it's just that's just that's just that's just
Starting point is 00:50:07 that's like in Finland they're like a app fucking crazy where's they could do have
Starting point is 00:50:13 many of the government like it all it's all it would be developed to not
Starting point is 00:50:19 be dependent of an company for the development and for the support for the
Starting point is 00:50:24 maintain it's like the technology is there for always it's not a fast-temporarer.
Starting point is 00:50:30 You've made in place these solutions perenn. But that's like the boot editorial of all.
Starting point is 00:50:33 I guess that's a total an editorial. What's what I'm doing to do? I think it
Starting point is 00:50:38 really interesting because I did a segment in Cafe Sneak. I think it's on DJ News. It's after
Starting point is 00:50:42 the debate Matthew Buck Coate and Jonathan Emel and Jeff Filion like he had used on radio pirate
Starting point is 00:50:48 that I'm talking to this schism at right to Quebec between the conservators nationalists
Starting point is 00:50:54 and the conservators libertarian and he is It's so interesting to because it's there that I feel like I'm
Starting point is 00:51:01 the impression that Paul Saper Palamandole, the chief of the Parts of Quebec, but all his energy on the case on Twitter from all this year, because Eric DuM
Starting point is 00:51:09 was the candidate opposed to Alex Boassano in the election in the election of Arta Basca, so it's made
Starting point is 00:51:14 a lot of discussion and debate, but certainly of Matthew Bock Coate, that he has also
Starting point is 00:51:21 blocked on Twitter, by the way, debloge me, but he's deba with all plenty of people
Starting point is 00:51:26 on the conservators, or the pirates, the people, the right nationalists Quebecoise think that's by them that's in the
Starting point is 00:51:32 independence, they have no idea that's like the real thing that will drive the culture of the independence
Starting point is 00:51:38 to the young or to the world it's like the artists who are like the people like the
Starting point is 00:51:44 government, or just the gauche is totally efface of the debate public Quebecoe
Starting point is 00:51:50 in some moment it's a all time low in my life I've not seen before, but in this moment, it's really, it's almost
Starting point is 00:51:57 it's reasonable, it's, it's just like, we're obliged to give the tribune to Quebec Seldare, we'll give them a minute, they're going to do what, and then, after, we'll even not comment what they're saying, we don't even not, like, address it, it's like, oh, we've left their right of parole, I'm going to pass to other
Starting point is 00:52:10 other things. And as, like, in the optics, we're all in election, honestly, the candidate of Quebec Seldare, in the election in Arthabasca, I understand, that she had had some, like, and she could not ratty on France and all, but
Starting point is 00:52:22 but all right, but you're not candidate in the election of Artabaskas, if you could not be able to be able to find out, because it's not just this election
Starting point is 00:52:28 that, in fact, that's important, it's that it had to come in the party, it made the piers in place for the rentry,
Starting point is 00:52:38 and it had performed just mediatically at least. There, I'm a video where I'm made an extract
Starting point is 00:52:43 of LATVE that's like, I'm sure I'd pay, I'd not pay $10,000 of billets. You're in
Starting point is 00:52:49 your post, you have that, a $10,000 of billi of to get to to get to get to put in your vacants the week of the second
Starting point is 00:52:56 but it's not the reality of the majority of the Quebec Solidair had 50% the intentions of vote, probably
Starting point is 00:53:03 I'd have made some time to say, okay, but what we know, you know, I know how much, I know, I'm not the chance
Starting point is 00:53:08 to garnier Monday. It's like it's an honor for Quebec Seledair to have this clip that
Starting point is 00:53:12 television that exists. Who has left to do that, why can do that did that, it has no bonsearch,
Starting point is 00:53:17 it's no a voluntary concrete to gain no interest popular. And I think it's a problem
Starting point is 00:53:24 because there's now the party the party the most of Quebec, it's going to be the PQ kind of,
Starting point is 00:53:29 but it's it's not to do it. Well, if you're if you're if you're if you're
Starting point is 00:53:35 that's all right that's what the PQ and the PQ and there's there's a party liberal but like
Starting point is 00:53:42 on the left they're in the country party liberal. So it's it's an space of
Starting point is 00:53:46 passage to Quebec Silder to go to their course to the chaffirry or course of co-partarola who's entombed
Starting point is 00:53:53 Monnet you say not that you want to do you want to do you know the boboo sovereign?
Starting point is 00:54:00 Yeah, the boboo sovereign is my party political I think what's important to survey for the
Starting point is 00:54:04 next year it's going to be the project of the cityon Beaette
Starting point is 00:54:09 it's it's all they're going to drop a constitution on us and they they're
Starting point is 00:54:13 adopt so bayon we're having a kind of there not the referendum
Starting point is 00:54:17 it's not Charlottetowne and Mitch he will have literally Simon Julian Barrett who will write a constitution or they're going they're going to try to do it
Starting point is 00:54:27 or they'll drop it just before the elections and in the way they're going to try to do what of reckless like we reprains like all the
Starting point is 00:54:35 power in immigration of identity there's too there's too there's too of the Arab as much and it's
Starting point is 00:54:40 it's going to it's like it's a quote it even and again again again someone Simon Jolin Boret
Starting point is 00:54:43 it's he is he's he will start literally he will have on the supposed constitution of Quebec. So, that's really important. And, there's the remandement
Starting point is 00:54:53 ministerial of François-Legro that will arrive. There's plenty of people who expect plenty of them. But at the end of the day, what's the cost? It's not the ministers. It's the chief of the cabinet of the cabinet of Francoisle. All the decisions that are not of the ministers, it's, like, four persons,
Starting point is 00:55:06 it's Martin Koskinen, Sonia Lebel, François, and like, the other, the other, the Gobeil. It's like even the ministers, they are at the time of a machine administrative, the spur, who are the decisions for the budget,
Starting point is 00:55:17 It's just that we're on-vaught mediatically, but for real, more than any other than the minister, it's, it changed anything, it's all. I think that the KAC, it's really not, and I feel that more it will be a lot to go out, more they're going to do shit a little crazy, especially for the depot of the budget, this printout, because there, they're going to want to recoupy the deficit, because there, we have the most gross deficit of the history of two years.
Starting point is 00:55:38 They're going to do with crazy for the cut-to-moat. I'm sure. It's what they're in this moment, all the departments are in Cooper, and, they, they, they want the budget before the election, That it's like, hey, look, there, we've got a good deficit at cause of the COVID, but now we've cuted a moaties.
Starting point is 00:55:54 They've done with, they've done with them. So, it's for that they've tried to cut up to 500 million in education, I think it was the same, it was 500 million in education. That's who, yeah? They've wanted to do
Starting point is 00:56:03 do you have done with education. Finally, they've been retracted at cause they had true a great group popular. There, the return, desorganized, supposedly, they're more more than they're more than
Starting point is 00:56:10 they're more, in the question, the function public, She said that everyone wants the PQ or whatever The PQ has not made
Starting point is 00:56:19 a lot of the PQ with them. And what's he's going to put the PQ to power is like
Starting point is 00:56:23 just literally the tune in a referendum in a first mandate. So, my segment that I'm
Starting point is 00:56:28 named Bisturie Ball Neer in fact I wanted on the tourist medical because it
Starting point is 00:56:33 had a just a little before just a little before we didn't know because
Starting point is 00:56:37 there was the comé MED Espo who turned a lot on TikTok but also in the
Starting point is 00:56:42 media in Quebec there there Influencers, who work for a company in Tunisia, and that agists a little like these persons,
Starting point is 00:56:49 of the liaisons between this company that that offer the chirogues and the client Quebecois. I don't know if we'll remember,
Starting point is 00:56:56 Monir, at the end of the year, we did have our predictions, and I had had to have a mountain
Starting point is 00:57:02 in poplarity of the chururgy invasive, notably the lifting, do more, a democratization
Starting point is 00:57:08 of these churrogies, especially at a public who was young. I said also that it was all had to pair with, perhaps, a relentishment
Starting point is 00:57:16 for what we call the agents of comblement, so the filers. There, we're coming to to see the the coat more obscure of the agents of comblemen, and especially those
Starting point is 00:57:26 who migra a little in the visage. The question that I've made, a year, today, it's a four years, it's four feet of a lifting cervical facial,
Starting point is 00:57:34 with the blifties of the poppire, superior, and the lip-liff of the lip-liff. When there's a tendency in a milieu esthetic. I'm going to start, without really me on apersever, to develop a new
Starting point is 00:57:45 vocabular, and to learn these terms specific. For me, it's a sign that there's something that's possible to pass to more large in the culture, or at least, in a part of the population, who resembles a little bit to me, at my level of the context. And I'm sorry, of a moment
Starting point is 00:57:59 where I, like, realized, you know, I'm at a full in the makeup, the day or the night, there were a lot of people, like, Mr. Madam, all of them, who had made to enumerate the principles active that had in their cosmetics, the acid Ialaronic, the niamicide, the acid glycolic, the acid salicylic, the retinoid. So, it's a subor that was a lot, quite rependous. We'd l'lid.
Starting point is 00:58:22 At a traverse, this savoir, that, we'd want to be many of the techniques. So, a know-saboard-technic, for example, all of the popular in the years, the contouring, the baking, the highlighting, at the level of the makeup. And then we'd more like a science, it's a year, that's a word that was empiric, tested in laboratory. It was the moment also, like I'd say, that peak self-care. And there's some cosmetics like The Ordinary,
Starting point is 00:58:49 which is a company that's founded, by a Canadian, who had enormously of success. The makeup of color, notably during the pandemic, it was solded much more. The market was maybe saturated. And to return to The Ordinary,
Starting point is 00:59:02 She had for an objective to propose these soins for the soin, not the makeupage, but really the soins. And it would also bolversed the industry cosmetic because it would make to access
Starting point is 00:59:14 to, it democratized the access to certain ingredients active that were much more than. The packaging was very sober. When we look
Starting point is 00:59:23 it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a re-go to fiel, on flacon, it's a lot of using in a
Starting point is 00:59:28 course of chimi or in an experience. There had all this vocabular that of the laboratory. I think that fit really
Starting point is 00:59:35 with the status of the transparency, which is mounted in popularity also on the web.
Starting point is 00:59:40 It's the ingredients that are made the bullshit, there's not an ingredient of the
Starting point is 00:59:46 ingredient that is there just for the buzz. So, brief, when I integrate
Starting point is 00:59:50 these new mo, or when the people around to me seem on
Starting point is 00:59:53 into it, I think that it point to something and recently, recently,
Starting point is 00:59:56 I'm surprised to interms of chirurgy esthetic, very, very pointu, at my vocabular. Evident, well, all of the monde now, the BBL, so the Brazilian buttlift. I'd say that it's like an OG, but the blepharoplasty, is something that I'm made to say or to recognize, so, superior or inferior, it's to say the
Starting point is 01:00:17 surgery of the popiars or so the eyes. Also, the term deep plane facelift, so in English, which is tradue in French, by lifting facial profound, which refers to a technique particular of lifting. I also consumed a
Starting point is 01:00:32 lot of the lifting of the lyevres superior. I even noted the term morphological freedom, so the
Starting point is 01:00:40 liberty morphologic which is employed like that by people to defund the recour to the recourgues
Starting point is 01:00:46 and to the modification of their car. That is very interesting, and I think that
Starting point is 01:00:50 it points to a moment in the culture where the chirurgy becomes not popular, but
Starting point is 01:00:57 also it's democratize, so accessible to people who could be able to be able to be able to get a year
Starting point is 01:01:04 10, 15, 20 times. I think it's kind of the evolution of self-care, because there the self-care,
Starting point is 01:01:10 the soin of the poor, we were in a domain, an universe asceticed medical, and there,
Starting point is 01:01:16 we're rendered that we've transitioned to medical versus the medical, so we're always in
Starting point is 01:01:22 the universe of the health, and of the expertise scientific, but there we're at the interior of the core. It's like if the paroxysm of the soin of the core, it was
Starting point is 01:01:33 obliged not just to make these creams, you know, to not to be fair for power to do it, because when we doper, there's really a period,
Starting point is 01:01:43 a moment where we are defecet. And that's the space of a period liminal of garrison, where we want to have the pu,
Starting point is 01:01:51 of the lymph, we'll suffer, we'll have need of assistance, we'll have debondage, these enflure. Sometimes, often,
Starting point is 01:01:59 we're going to be totally defiguried. And it's this moment that that is often also documented on the
Starting point is 01:02:05 platforms. It's a moment of dependence total, of vulnerability. And then, I'd say, don't know
Starting point is 01:02:11 to Caesar, what he had to because the first person that I heard of Blé-Faroplasti
Starting point is 01:02:18 if I me I mean, to my sense, it's Chantal Deny. So Chantal Deni,
Starting point is 01:02:24 veteran Quebecoese of multi-level marketing. I know before, but I'm assigned to appear
Starting point is 01:02:29 on my phone TikTok about a year about and she documented at the blifarow
Starting point is 01:02:35 plastic she had had seen in Tunisia with Medespoor. And now she is now directress
Starting point is 01:02:41 Medespoor Division Quebec. So she has really a partonari not only with the
Starting point is 01:02:46 clinic, but it also, I think who supervise the other of agents of liaisons
Starting point is 01:02:50 who are also these influencers on TikTok and by these people there there are Mary Maxim and Jessica
Starting point is 01:02:57 Dubbe that I've discovered more recently it's a sort of comments of critiques in the
Starting point is 01:03:02 churgy aesthetic there's there's there's a lot of on Quebec we've
Starting point is 01:03:08 even these women like these fames like the matant of the churgy the Tupperware and I
Starting point is 01:03:15 think that there's It's like a supposition of verity there in the sense that they're some of the same people who are quite able to have, who are already participated
Starting point is 01:03:25 to what we call the multi-level marketing, the vance pyramidal. I, when I look at, I'm in fact, I'm by their expertise in marketing, and even if
Starting point is 01:03:36 they generate the in, even if they're some the characters that like, for example, decry, they have really a talent to develop a line
Starting point is 01:03:45 of confidence. It's certainly that who are the people who want to go to do do you have a surgery, well, what they're going to be the need, it's the confidence. Pea import, if they go in Quebec or in Tunisia,
Starting point is 01:03:57 what you research in first when you make your life like that your life like to be this idea to be in security. And they are like to create this
Starting point is 01:04:06 link that parasocial that amends to a form surely illusory of security. But I will come to these women, perhaps
Starting point is 01:04:14 a little bit about the end, but I think it's really representative of all of a shift in the culture, and then we'll see well as a couple of of years. I'd, by example, a creatress of content on YouTube, who was also danceoes nude, and she liked a lot, and she said a lot of chirurgy. So, I had
Starting point is 01:04:28 already gouted a little to this current that, really of banalization of the chirogé esthetic, but also to a vision of the chirrigy esthetic which was not like when I was young, or we'd really of that's like a service
Starting point is 01:04:42 that was sold to people more aged for efface the sign of the age. Or, so that, or if we had really something that we perceived
Starting point is 01:04:50 like a tarr, or a default, then, to have a course to the surgery esthetic that it would be able to finally,
Starting point is 01:04:58 to be in our whole, it was like, so it's like the two facet I think of the churururgy when I was
Starting point is 01:05:03 pretty. There's really a other discourse, it's used for to be perfectioning. So, you're not obliged
Starting point is 01:05:10 to not necessarily tammie, it's just something like a processus for always it's like that it's been used
Starting point is 01:05:17 today. And at the time where I see this creator of contentu, I remember, she had made
Starting point is 01:05:23 the sin, she's made several times because she had considered like rated, she had some impal
Starting point is 01:05:29 in the place, and at a moment of it's like she like she she had engaged
Starting point is 01:05:33 in this processus that of perfectionment of her well, there, it had to
Starting point is 01:05:37 continue, so she had set to be to racorcer the and I mean I didn't
Starting point is 01:05:42 if it was all the whole of just a hearty it was super suffering so it was
Starting point is 01:05:47 it was a face a one of a while because it was it was it was
Starting point is 01:05:52 emaned not necessarily of a great complex or something it was really just like
Starting point is 01:05:58 I'm I'm done in my process of perfectioning I know I'm
Starting point is 01:06:02 I've written an essay on on the makeup and all I think not that
Starting point is 01:06:05 that's my subject of obsession in the last year the two last years years
Starting point is 01:06:10 I'm not there's a cause of myquier I'm made quite to ask some
Starting point is 01:06:16 with the domain of the aesthetic and recently there's a journalist of Elpais
Starting point is 01:06:21 in Spain who has written for me question to just the standard of beauty
Starting point is 01:06:26 that changed and our attitude more general face to these modifications corporal
Starting point is 01:06:32 like the chirurgy and so I said I just just that I've been to say
Starting point is 01:06:35 that I have the impression that the church had really more vendue as a way to efface
Starting point is 01:06:40 the signs of the yearisement, but really like an tool to us perfection, and we're
Starting point is 01:06:44 optimised, and that attrate of the client consequently more and more young. I've
Starting point is 01:06:48 even seen a moment of a tagline of marketing. I don't if it was for a
Starting point is 01:06:53 clinic of a clinic of churgy, but it would be more more than
Starting point is 01:06:57 more than the time, and like a win, we're we're being, we're
Starting point is 01:07:02 also that the word to the democratization, especially in the of tourism medical, because it's one of the reasons
Starting point is 01:07:08 to go to be to be able to be the fact that it's much more more than it's a lot of, so it becomes for people who othermen
Starting point is 01:07:15 have not had the way. I used like these interviews with the chirurgy in stethic, I see, I'm said,
Starting point is 01:07:21 you know, sometimes it's just these changes subtle, we create, perhaps more of symmetry in doing a
Starting point is 01:07:28 little lifting of the years, or, you it's these things that you can't not remarked
Starting point is 01:07:32 if you're the person who they let's do it, you know, we're in the domain also of tweaking, the tweak, of these adjustments,
Starting point is 01:07:41 like the chirurgy that we'd on our labubu? When I got I'd, you know, I think it was for your fete, I'm trying,
Starting point is 01:07:51 I've fabriced a little draper of Quebec, and I'm colled with the colled, and I think that it's a form of personalization
Starting point is 01:07:57 that makes to the object that is of mass, which is surabondant in line, it can make to have a link more intimate
Starting point is 01:08:04 with this object that, you know, we have the impression that we have been in it's like
Starting point is 01:08:09 in your kind of a stature sometimes it's like a way of we're re-appropried our car because we
Starting point is 01:08:13 decide to how he will have this car that I just just say a parenthise Labubu
Starting point is 01:08:20 but in the abundance of the abodos but we have kind of this desire that to
Starting point is 01:08:25 have an labubub unique or or at minimum rare because in our society
Starting point is 01:08:29 capitalists that is rare it's percied as desirable. It's like that we perceive the value of the object,
Starting point is 01:08:36 notably in this effect of rarity that. Dough the meme of the famous 24 karat gold
Starting point is 01:08:43 Abuu. I have the one and only 24 carot gold libubu also the
Starting point is 01:08:51 BBL Labubu Yeah, it's that I'd say there's this tendency that
Starting point is 01:08:55 Marnere has made the Labubu who do BBL, the Brazilian buttlift and it
Starting point is 01:09:01 's a BBL It's just that for to say that, you know, I think that it's inscries also the chirurgy esthetic in a tendency
Starting point is 01:09:10 more large that's sometimes the core like a obstacle and then I'll just say, I'll post not the judgment if it's good
Starting point is 01:09:18 if it's bad the churgy I think there there's a context that it's put to the churgy and I'm not
Starting point is 01:09:24 to judge the so, so it's really not that my discourse. The core like an obstacle in the sense
Starting point is 01:09:28 where we're in a period where the millionaires, those who develop the technology, they're prone, notably the biohacking. So,
Starting point is 01:09:37 try, to hacky their core for not ever mourn, they adder to the philosophies like the transhumanism or the idea is to transcend the core.
Starting point is 01:09:47 So it's like if it's like we're able that the technology like LIA us can't a day
Starting point is 01:09:51 to transcend the car, to be immortal. In fact, in fact, in fact, in front of I see that
Starting point is 01:09:56 like, a form of Mepri for the nature the mare of the core, so for the car, at final, which he never
Starting point is 01:10:05 can be perfect when it can be effaced or eliminate entirely. I'm a idea of democratization because in the fulet of Medespoor,
Starting point is 01:10:14 there also, you know, there's several stars who reveal their new face, their new visage, and they want
Starting point is 01:10:23 directly to butt in black to say, hey, yes, I've received a lifting, here the technique
Starting point is 01:10:29 that my chirurgeon has used, here's the name of my chirogian. And so, it's the case, notably recently, of Chris Jenner, so the matriarche of the Kardashians. And a few after,
Starting point is 01:10:39 the new face reveal of Chris Jenner, so you, you know Kim Kardashian who has launched a new product of skins, which is called the seamless scalp face wrap. So it's a kind of gown for the visage,
Starting point is 01:10:52 a bandage facial that would be, so-d-s-face, of collagen, and that we attach all around our visage, it's supposed to
Starting point is 01:11:02 sculpting the visage, but in fact, it's rappel really the bandages that we need
Starting point is 01:11:08 post-up. So, after the surgery, after our lifting, for amelioring
Starting point is 01:11:15 the galp of the visage, but also permit a major garrison. It's
Starting point is 01:11:19 directly chirurgy coded. It's $80 Canadian, it's not done,
Starting point is 01:11:24 it's not there, M.G. Corey, who is a girl on the clan Kardashian, on his account Instagram,
Starting point is 01:11:31 who's called Kardashian Colloquium, who talked to the fact that the products of the Kardashian and,
Starting point is 01:11:39 notably of Kim, it was often these products that were the democratization of the access to processus
Starting point is 01:11:48 technology aesthetic that amelior the appearance. And one other thing that I wanted, an aspect of
Starting point is 01:11:54 the culture web that could explain also the popularization and the democratization of the chirurgy aesthetic, is the fact that the type of intervention, the chirogis esthetic, it's pretty well to create really well
Starting point is 01:12:05 to the creation of content. It's, you know, it's very visible in line, and more it's visible, well, it's normalized, but also, the people can use their surgery facial, like a rome of launchment in the world of the creation of content. By example, zero followers, you're inconcue, and then you decide to turn to Mexico
Starting point is 01:12:29 to make a great transformation, you do you do have a gross lifting of the visage, and then you document all your processus, so you arrive to Mexico, and then you subis the intervention, and all the processus of garrison. It's also to make some update at each day. A mince on fine of possibility of creation of content,
Starting point is 01:12:50 and the people, actually, they are really interested by that. He can even have a principle of rage bait there's a lot of people that are they interest because they envisaged to do with their operations. There are a lot of people who are people who are inue
Starting point is 01:13:06 face to people, these women, notably, who decides to modify their car. And there's a woman that's apparel on my field algorithmic TikTok there a couple
Starting point is 01:13:16 of months. I've seen she had never published before. She had just like two videos. His first post, you know, the face is a little ratatine, and she said that she's going to documenting, she has 51-year-old in Mexico. She's really become
Starting point is 01:13:31 rapidly viral. Now, I've regarded his number of abonnet on TikTok, and it's rendered to 203,000 subscribers in the space of maybe, like, two months, and we're called the Guadalajara Lady. It's very propitious to the mis in-recis this story of Cherokee, because you're sure to have an
Starting point is 01:13:51 avant, pendant, and an after. The documentation, the mis in history of the process of
Starting point is 01:13:59 the gerisone, it corresponds also to the web, as I say always the transparency. We see
Starting point is 01:14:05 literally, defiguried, we go in these moments very vulnerable. So it's like if we're pushing
Starting point is 01:14:11 a papillon or, at a chenny, to open its chrysalid and to me to show
Starting point is 01:14:18 at the interior before that's really a papillon. It's really a vulnerability or a moment
Starting point is 01:14:23 where we're undone, we're de-fait. We're exibed in a moment particularly vulnerable. It's also to create
Starting point is 01:14:30 a link parasocial. And finally, for the people who look like like I, but I think we're also
Starting point is 01:14:35 at the research of a form of magic. It becomes also a possibility for us the magic.
Starting point is 01:14:42 When we see these transformations that have sometimes like miraculous but we see like
Starting point is 01:14:48 some processus, an impreve initiatic. A woman that's finished
Starting point is 01:14:53 to find out to find out a mommy make over so it's mark a period of their life.
Starting point is 01:14:57 It's like okay, you're finished to do that now you do that. There's
Starting point is 01:15:00 also people who have suburb all sort of interventions churgical or just
Starting point is 01:15:05 aesthetic before their marriage. We call that a wedding glow up. All of synchronicity
Starting point is 01:15:11 with the fashion to envisaged our life like a story, a book, a a romance
Starting point is 01:15:15 with different chapters. And each chapter corresponds to a step to transformation. And even
Starting point is 01:15:21 this idea of magic that is reiterated in the discourse of women of my of course.
Starting point is 01:15:26 I think, as Jessica Dubbe who will often refer to Dr. Gam, the chirurgeon
Starting point is 01:15:32 who dirige the center of the doctor of the history. Well, she said often the
Starting point is 01:15:37 magician. And I think that can be we're also to say that the
Starting point is 01:15:41 transformation is possible at any every time of our time of our
Starting point is 01:15:44 We could re-compancy at zero, to start tabula rasa with a new visage, so maybe efface what we've seen what we've seen. There's a lot of thing to say on the surgery, but I think
Starting point is 01:15:56 that it's got to some risk. And there also, I think, there's some of the risk linked to take the avion. You know,
Starting point is 01:16:02 when we do do tourism medical, there always this voyage of return while we're in period in core of
Starting point is 01:16:07 guiseon. And I think it's like a subject which we want to hear to more can't
Starting point is 01:16:11 talk. I've talked of democratization, of normalization. There's also all sorts of factors,
Starting point is 01:16:17 you know, that's that, you know, I think to the American. For example, they don't
Starting point is 01:16:24 a system of health like the other. If they're not the good insurance and
Starting point is 01:16:29 they're going to be more to be more to be more to do to do you, it's not
Starting point is 01:16:35 obliged to be to be the surgery estit it, it can be
Starting point is 01:16:37 a of genus, at the other and the of the surgery of and even it's in
Starting point is 01:16:44 a country, where there's an insurance malady where you have the chirurgy that's offered. The list
Starting point is 01:16:50 of the time. But sometimes that's that's a question of a question of things, we can think
Starting point is 01:16:56 to think to the more and more banal and normalised with the gref of the
Starting point is 01:17:02 chevevee in Turkey and it's also been used as a voyage in the
Starting point is 01:17:06 same time of be a surgery. So, finally, you know,
Starting point is 01:17:09 there's a thing to say, there's a lot of the way of the influencers
Starting point is 01:17:13 of the people, I would say, I would say, I'd say, we consider not the
Starting point is 01:17:20 creation of content, or the type of marketing of influence is often like a
Starting point is 01:17:24 way, but you know they've developed these abutate and aptitudes for for that.
Starting point is 01:17:30 And what they develop, it's a link of confidence, not with the transparency that
Starting point is 01:17:35 performing, in their processus of their cicatrice, the devolment of their proper
Starting point is 01:17:41 chirrugist. But I think something that is not negligible, in fact, is the idea that these women are
Starting point is 01:17:47 that are the French and that the doctor gam, for the they're in the
Starting point is 01:17:53 center med of the sport, there can there seem to have many people who
Starting point is 01:17:57 have been in Tunisian. And it's that I'll say, it's that for the
Starting point is 01:18:02 people, let's maybe more of the way of one, the tourist medical
Starting point is 01:18:06 apparel because they don't know the money because they're not the money to pay for some
Starting point is 01:18:11 that's important for you, it's the link of confidence and then sometimes
Starting point is 01:18:16 it's perhaps not people who are able in other language language for them
Starting point is 01:18:22 for them it's that the kind of the space of noyo is the
Starting point is 01:18:27 French is that when I go in couch in a high
Starting point is 01:18:31 hospital, it's able to be able to to be able to express me, express my business. And it's
Starting point is 01:18:37 a travel the language that this commerce that, I think, it's in case, in the case, in
Starting point is 01:18:45 the way, in this moment, we see, we've got a lot of people, maybe, like,
Starting point is 01:18:49 a base of a clientele who were recherchercherche, but just before, there a few years,
Starting point is 01:18:53 it was more oriented to a , a clientel French of France.
Starting point is 01:18:58 It's more popular in France? I see not, I'm I was wondering, is there
Starting point is 01:19:01 had a rise, a backlash, and then it's that, I'm sorry, if it had not had been, like,
Starting point is 01:19:08 there's history of horror, a backlash that had made in the way, it's the Quebec. The Quebec,
Starting point is 01:19:15 notably, you know, obviously, like I said, it's not denued risk, it's the surgery there,
Starting point is 01:19:19 and there's there's already these stories of horror who are out of a, you, a woman,
Starting point is 01:19:23 not I've heard, that she said, she had had made a set semi, that had
Starting point is 01:19:28 had plenty of And then it's a play, and that's a bit of Semi, you nize not with that. I found it interesting, also. We've regarded a animation yesterday that's called Beautiful Men. It's the stop motion. It's, I think, in nomination to Oscars in 2024. Michael Kepinz. And it's a part of tourism medical, but more of these men who go in Turkey.
Starting point is 01:19:48 So, it made ensign three frereers who do a voyage in Turkey ensemble to be graphered. So, the three are chafed. And we've made, you know, to find, to find, to find, that the realisator he was inspired of an experience
Starting point is 01:20:02 that he had arrived when he was in Turkey Yeah, it's what he had to he was in Turkey for a tournage
Starting point is 01:20:07 and he had not realized that the hotel that the tournage had had a hotel also that was
Starting point is 01:20:11 an partyneria with these kind of of the so he had just arrived in the lobby
Starting point is 01:20:18 of the there had perhaps 40 um chove and he had he had seen
Starting point is 01:20:20 like a certain beauty in this in this vision that of um that
Starting point is 01:20:26 this vulnerability And you know, the film export also the theme of the solitude, really. Because I'd just mention that, you know, when we're talking to shirgy esthetic, you know, I think that we think often at these women, all. But, in fact, I think that the publicity, the marketing, and all, it's all to, it's address as long as men than those women. Ah, yeah, and particularly the people who are the people who lose the weight, you know, we've all the vogue, two-and-pike, which is sometimes
Starting point is 01:20:55 these perils of pain, which is a surplu of poe that's created. So, we want also like, at the end of your course of a perth of pot, you want to do
Starting point is 01:21:05 to do a surgery, it's like the series on the Sunday. You know, it's like we don't a new chance, a new new car,
Starting point is 01:21:13 we're t'enel the excedant of poe, like if we're an tarrache a part of your history. So,
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