café snake - Lignes Ouvertes #12 (100e épisode)

Episode Date: July 7, 2026

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that I've got The video of this genre With people who have people who find some people who make some

about to the culture By example Curtis Conner, Joe Goodin They found this kind of video that, which recently I've seen pass on my feed on YouTube

a video that's called Commentary is Loki Bad, of Dooty, who me really made reflect to last application in this genre of video YouTube,

I mean, I'd really, I'd really this kind of kind of a manner to me stimulate intellectually, and to me informer on these corners

that you're that I know that I know because my algorithm not made not in my own name then, and

recently, I think all these videos like all seem to the same things.

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that's it's you can't probably, you could find 20 videos of YouTubers people who are

popular on the AI fruit Slup that amending all the same point to

critic the AI Fruit Slup and who in the time, they're in the promotion of

these videos like they're saying these comments of it's really it really made

to think to make relation to this sort of video that, and the fact that it's a little of the Slop, in the font, who is said, but I was like, I had to hear of

to talk to this subject that. Thank you. Well, thank, Elo. Yeah, thank, Elo, for your take.

In time, Retired Commentary YouTuber, well, on a hiatus. Ah, yeah. Okay. I'll revenue

in my commentary aid a, uh, a day, no, I think interesting, because for the people who know

that don't know in 2019 and 2012, I've produced, maybe more than 70 videos of of commentary

on my chain YouTube, Mare de Laval there's not really a chain of commentary. When I got it's coming

the eventment of Shane, like you mentioned in your message, Hello, Jourkeh Gaudin,

which is like the version 2.0 of the commentary community, perhaps of the

community, but it was more oriented around the reaction video, but it's different, some, it's gonna

see, it's gonna be a video, but we were more in the Cody Co-era, who were really more in the satire, in the humor, plus it's a pre-a-tendent, even with other people who have put their retrait now, that their name escapes, but, especially, during the COVID,

I think it's a guy, in particular. DiAngelo Wallace. He did, like, a prestige, you know, like... Prestige? Yeah, in a sense, it's like, a little bit more elevating, intellectually.

Okay. But it's a lot of, they were the same code, the same year. But Curtis Conner, I'd just had taken on some of these videos. I had even talked to, my, It's a humorist Toronto, I'm

He's been a He's been a humorist But he's He said, you know, He did He said, he He'd regard Tell film

horrible, I'm Yeah, Or it's more Couloteau Yeah, If you're That's a YouTuber Fuck Logan Paul

Fuck Jake Paul Yeah, But, Umoristique Yeah, Umoristic, Yeah, but it's Yeah,

There's what, In course, I've got to First Hand, Sauto Someone, someone Like, Kortis Kohner

Or, or even Cody Coe, like, J, who's, J, who is, J., of the internet, whatever.

Paria. Yeah. Yeah. I think personally that at a moment of it, you age out of it. You vie-out with your question, I'll go back

see what the new video of the drug were in the mid-30th in trying to find the time there were 23 years, there's no more the same thing.

There's a form of sur-encher also where, as a measure that is a lot of people have been there's been there's not

to say, there's not to say. There will be there's always that every week, it's just that's just that every time, it's When I got these videos that I've made, I'm like, yeah, it's nice, there's

some good joke in there. But what's going to do, really? There's even a caption of me. I had posted on Instagram, I'm going to watch my movie to do that. You know, I was just a remise in question of what I was going to do my time to do. And it's like, it's always with the current, especially, in Quebec, there's no commentary so, my, one of the most critical, that we said in the time that I did some commentary, it's, oh, you've really do time to lose, because you do this.

Because it existed not, it wasn't it was like, it's like it's normally a loser to take your time to do you know, and when I met with he was already

on his yattus like he said, he had to have to do do you have to do you get to do your project,

certain have been have been abutty, other have been I'm not able to it's a lot of and it's almost because they're doing these videos every

every year when you run in this loop that and you decide that you go live your life with AdSense the program

of payment, a partneriardia of Google, so the service of publicity of Google, when you decide that you will pay your loy yet, then you have to pose these videos. So it becomes more something that you do, because you've really the good to talk to tell to tell you have really the thing, it's really an imperative financial.

I think that's the most luxurious in the life of YouTuber to not have to upload each week, to really bring your time, to work on some, and then to be partaged on YouTube. I'm in my head, it's the sole, the objective. And you're also, by the way, I'm going to rest in the head of the people

not we'll have this idea also that if it it's a time on a certain time on a certain time on the algorithm

will be defavorize it's that that had been very been over yeah during a certain time,

then there there had come up a vogue of creator and the YouTube had made made a

immense communicate to say hey, it's you're you're playing you're

it's not you're not you're not it's just the force of things even if YouTube

did you they defovore it's just that you're just that you run in the degree of people

by the the habit of consumption. YouTube that's the person passed the more of the site. If it's a long time that has not checked

your video, and that you pose, maybe he will not have not have the disadvantage. There's a recent bias. You'll see it

recently, he will be able to get up. If you'll have more the chance that repop, even if there's

not the disadvantage built in. It's just the force of things. It exists more in the person.

It's just there's a forcey to make poste that makes in sort that it's done that it's

even if you have been even interview with the channel YouTube mass. I said, there's kind of a couple of videos on my chain that it's before we're talking to, so, even

me, when I observe certain videos that I made, I'm saying, oh, my God, I had a business, I'm going to, I'm going to see it over, I'm doing this video, like, oh, my God, you want to say, oh, my God, you want to see what, my God, you know, and you'll catch it the movement? No, in the comments, by example, the world will appreciate the video, because it's not

because it's not much, necessarily, the world, they're attached to your personality, at your universe, it's feel good, to look at your content with YouTube, there's this idea that, that, that they don't not until to H-cock, they want a show-off, plus, than a presence regular in their life, a rendezvous televisual. There's so, and then,

there's what, even in the video that you've mentioned who's worth, like an espouse of video of commentary, there's a lot of course of YouTube, a, of commentary, who has tried or, who had reached to migrate, where the world of these essays video. Many of these people, deigned

a little bit more later, the kind of asses of video with a a prism a preyshe a intellectual or a a voluntary of intellectualism. When I observe a commentary YouTuber who's like, like, try to go to next step, and he's not just like milk the same

off the same thing, because on the end of the journey, it's true because on YouTube, it's what the commentary channel who gets the plus of views that has the plus of cultural. It's Charlie of Penguin Zio. He does that for 10 years,

he does the guy with the tone the most monotone, who makes just repeat the sections commenter of tweet on a subject. He says nothing of original. It's the pure slup, the videos of Charlie. But for the people who know on YouTube,

you know exactly what I'm But if the channel YouTube that gets systematically... No, I don't know, I don't know. No, but if I'd show you on top... You can't see a extract? Are few names as iconic as Stephen Spielberg in the film industry. For the longest time, his name was synonymous with high-quality blockbuster cinema. A lot of people were really excited as like a return to form for Spielberg.

And I've just seen it. It's like... It's not great. Like, it's... I don't think it's like a terrible movie, but it's... He's no montage, he has nothing, he's He's just saty He's like a sit-up gaming, he has like a chill dude,

And he's like, oh, hey, just saw backrooms, and, oh, he's all right, he's just, he's on the vogue. He's just to look at him, he just to learn the internet. Like, and you know, like, well, you know, finally, I, I, you know, I, fuddle you there, and then, and all the most of the same thing, but it's because the internet, in fact,

function, like that, like, the dispersion of opinion, it's, the mimes. The world, he repet these memes. They reprain an opinion, they're, they're, add a certain variation. Well, yeah, and then

we know with the sections like, you know, like, make-tons and his age. There, there's like plenty joke of memes on, like, you go to watch

these top comments there, you go to see, on the tweet, on the threadreddit, in a TikTok, the comments that functioned with the likes

in the sections commenters are repried on different platforms, and view that they consume not necessarily Twitter, TikTok,

Instagram, well, they've never seen this commenter that so, so, so, there, so, there, so, there,

so, like, in the sense, or, like, Like, yes, the humans function by imitation, but there's something in the architecture of the platforms that we use that favorize a form of imitation. We find a formula that works and we're replic. It's not for me flatted in the door and all,

but I think when I read my videos of commentary, I'm like the luxe that there's not really in this space that in Quebec. There's quite, you know, to come even inusity with a language Quebecoise, and also my incarnation of what is being Quebecuer, that you have influenced by having gone to Laval, to have to have been in Montreal.

My universe culture is different than he is framed by the media quebecoe. And it's that that's also interesting. For the universe I'm different

of the same. Exactly, it's that. And I think to have made on video YouTube to me at this age there I think

there's a value archivistic. I just opened my camp and I'm not there were not there's not, I was out of the first video.

His first, first video, in fact, he's published on Facebook. Scoop. I'd say it's a mix of actuality

and of commentia on the legislation the web. You're still rested in a certain

tangent. And you said a little on your message on your message on your use what you do you do you

do you're doing to hear of the reflection but it's also to hear about I think that I have got to quite quite

and I desire to talk about my chain YouTube but it's a question on the question on the commentary

YouTube so it's like but no, but there there was what I have got

that I've probably quite that I'm control not the usage that the people

so if I'm doing my view on so if that's the controversy of an influencer or a fact of actuality, for that the people comprehend, I'm like,

I'm going to put up to who the people who see this. So I'll explain what's what he's going to be before to give my opinion. But how I'll explain, it's going to be tinted by my opinion. And then, after, I'll say my little joke, I'll say, I mean, it's like,

it's making sure that I'm going to see in the comments of the people who are like, oh my God, I see a chance to check your video, let's see what you're asking. So, like, you realize that the world uses your content,

not just for, like, have a perspective alternative on what he thinks, there's just more of the moment in the commenters. But one of the gross party of the people, it's to use what's going to what's going to

have to the information. And so it's pasted by the fact of 15 years of transition mediatic, the people who are people who are doing the time of the

video, there were not the video that decartiqued the law 21 on YouTube in 2019, there was my video. Your first video

on Facebook it was about the net neutrality but it was on the United there had been a journey of the media.

Yeah, there had an immense journey of mobilization on Reddit where's that all the subreddit had made a grave

we're in 2017 but where Reddit was the Reddit was the plus when the Donald's

made ban and then it's like all the great subredit for a day for a year the internet is too

like I'm like I've made a video and it's not necessarily the best of the video but I respect the

impulsions of this video yeah so you control not you control not how the world

uses your video and it's a vector of information and then we're we're talking

we're not necessarily intentional that you de course that you're the world utilize that

the world the productions of Drew Godin or whatever, all the commentary space that I know not which is kind of adjacent to the information and after

more, I know vaguely because I just see the drama of them, but let's on, she's just young, young, young,

alpha, they're they're going to see some commentary on the video of parko Minecraft. It's a great space,

and it's on YouTube shorts, and it has many millions of views. They do do commentary on what exactly on?

On the on the controversy recent of this creator where I'm put in this creator or this

update of Minecraft. No, but it's a political, but it's political because there are some morals, these values that are displayed by these creators and it's like a very a total other

place, which is full popular, especially for the pandemic. I think the commentary will all the time exist, but I think there's what in how it's constructed

that it's a young person game. At least it that's been in a streaming. I think that the streaming is the evolution

of commentary YouTube. You know, my videos on YouTube was an non-scripted, I know a bit of what I'd say, but what's it was interesting,

it's when I parted on on these espets of long envoled that I could not planify because it's it's not

it's like it like it's not that you're not what I'm not what I'm saying what I'm saying that's what I'm so that you can't

get to get to this scripted but that's it's pretty very well it's probably yeah it's it's been

it's like assan, like Asmund gold and who are incarnate like the two poll but it's

but it's bigirectional also because you're in relationship there's a person who you're there a person

that's over Peak Commentary is the chat. So, yeah, I'm, I'm sure that it's a result of and I'm gonna be sure, really, in fact, of commentary YouTuber. On Nish Immigray, to listen to slop video, and see, of trajector of creator

like Turkey Tom. I mean, I see purely in a point of view of divertisman. Oh, well, thank you, hello. So, now we'll listen the message of NARF. Hello, Daphne. Hello, Munir.

I'd like that to have your opinion on the geants of web. I don't know it's for you, but I, around me, there are many people who are Tannet of these gross companies of

the internet, that's Google, Amazon, Facebook, and who search these alternatives, or who

don't know to change or to reduce their utilization, who are either either the utilization of their telephone

or the time that they pass before the screen, or they're going to use, a

bit like the people who people who decide, like, that's not for me, I've

saceed to it's and I'm to get to a point it's not a On the other

it's very difficult to do that because it's these tools that are extremely useful, even quite as

necessary for to live in society to know what to do you, it's a very difficult. And so I

don't know when we say, what we think we want to get these things that, is what

what we're not, we're not we're not not an version of these same

but that functioned for us more than for the more of the money to do the CEO,

of these gross company, is we can imagine a world where is the tools numeric would be, I know, I know, nationalized, a little like Hydro-Keebec.

If I'm Trombe not, there's been there's been some vowsation, it's a dozen, wow, I'm, I'm probably,

a centen of private, electricity in Quebec in the years 40, 60, I think, or is that they have nationalized,

expropriate, all of these companies to say, that's suffice, the niasage. It's too the borde. So we're going to have a one

company and we're going to take the control I'm going to be democratically in the society so what are you to be there to do that to do the same

for the internet for the resources of internet but also for the gross companies to web to say that like on

the way of Facebook or you to say that we're abolir Google or to use Google

or boycotting Google that we're like no Google is it's utilel we don't have

1,000 companies that offer a service like Google. We want just have one Google, because it's more efficient as

that or a single Facebook, but he is under control of us, rather than be in the poigny of

an poigny of a cashionaire rich. In any I don't know what you think you're people,

you're not people are sure that you have to have some good. Thank you, NARF.

Thank you for your take. I think that, first, one of the thing is that's things are

that's not indispensable, and there's different types of tools, it's sure that a number of

different ported that, let's on a social or a platform or a suite like Adobe, by example,

all these are all these solutions, of the different. And just at the end of the message,

all the idea of the nationalization and the comparison with Hydro-Keebe it's sure that there's

something that is fundamentally different in the sense electricity to Quebec, it's a issue with the territory. We've got to be sovereign

energetically on our territory. And in the context historic that's arrived, we're going to have the development of the Abid James. And, you know,

Hydro-Keebeck exist before she had incorporated all the other companies private of electricity, so it's just been the fusion, and Hydro-Keebeck

had already entomied the development of certain projects on the Abid James, so that's all just to do that's all right in the consensuality,

René LeVeyke has literally said, like, menace, Jean Lessage, for to convince to go and to have been in your question, but it's

quite a question, but it's quite a process democratic. Well, I was saying, it's the Prime Minister who decided, but it's like, yeah,

but I mean, I mean, I mean, I would say, in the society civil Quebecoise, there had been in a disaccon, with that,

don't, so, a quire-in' Peter I, did that's not a good idea, and so he would be a good, he would

be able to do you say, we're going to, you know, the view of the internet also is, the view of the I don't know if there's a reality

where there's a nationalization of Google, you'd envisage a government unique and then it's to be a partying to all the humanity. You could not

really do that. Maybe offer some of the new products, and I think we've already to say that in Caffe Snake

with, I think it was a France. Yeah, yeah, there are these initiatives in Europe that launch a clone of Google

Docs and the suite of Microsoft that's called Docs. Notarming in France, there's like

a suite of application, the suite of the suite of I think, is available to the public,

but it's it's for certain companies, institutions. So we will get for example

the equivalent French of Zoom of Meet, a clone of Gmail, an alternative also to

we transfer which is called French Transfer. So, so I think that could exist

effectively, the objective there's the objective that's replaced the technology

of the United to be, because not the tensions geopolit geopolitical. And also it's because the argument,

let's on a point of view of croissance economic, by example, you know, like a lot of value that's accumulated by the company technology, she's

over to the Silicon Valley. You know, about Shopify to Canada, these gross companies there, these sectors of the technology who are an

immense percentage of the SMP 500 in the United. But all this richesse that in this probably,

yeah, I'd say, because what's it's quite that's quite about the people, they're in

these guys business bourcc business bourc like the SMP 500. They are also in

these espies of investments with the publicers of the bank so are the companies in which are in case of depot invests so it's bizarre but even the Quebecers are

liy to be used to these gross companies and individually in these enterprises that American. Yeah, 100% I understand of this point of view that

of investment but I just like in terms of employment and the job of Google in Montreal is not very gross Microsoft I'm just like the shop Pfei had decided to open a bureau in Montreal, but before you

have not, but it's a common Canadian. I think that, yes, there's the sorts of solutions logitial, but I think also that the night of the war, that's not a lot of course, it's in the hardware. The people who constructs, let'sone, like, Nivisia, and the chip, and the card graphic, and the processor, Intel, Apple, who is gross in hardware. Before, we had, R.I.M.,

Research in Motion, that, who'd face the BlackBerry, perhaps it would be able to be it if they were in t-teteed, and it's not made by Steve Jobs. There also, in these industries, a complete effacement of our present. or our innovation in these terrains.

After, the idea of the quitted, I think it's lovable, but... It depends also, what you're in case, even your prof, you've got to be used to use a suite of logitial. They're going to be obliged to have Microsoft Team or, I don't know, on the Commission Schooler of Montreal. There's like a pretty imperative at the level of the market of the travel. So, it's a privilege, for those who are capable to send departing. You know, by example, Radio Canada, they're all integrated on G-Suite.

Google, all their transfer of data, they're going to do with drive, all the world of the audiovisual, so the TV and all, the cinema, is very dependent on Adobe with these products like Frame.io,

like Premier. If all the companies American, is we could create their penchance? I think that's apparel if we look

the dossier of different on level provincial. We've talked often the system of the dossier,

by example. Recently, I talked to the dossier the health numeric with a contract that that frouled the almost million of dollars with Epic System

which is an immense company American. Munir talked of sub-traitance also in the same of the government. All the SASS, so, so...

SAPE, we're... We're making some people, that's not the whole Quebec-S... and I think

we're suet very in this domain, the numeric, the informatic to do develop our expertise here.

And I think at the long it's really a immense talon of for the Quebec. It was, it's another

one of the report of the Commission Gallant, which is, it's a true of course, because I'm

talking about it because he presented that a bit like this idea that, I said, the government, in the government,

in the government, what is it is the tech startup, but, like, at the interior of the

government, and then just with the solution to client, but all the back-end, so,

all the done, to make, to make to do the order there to structure it, because it's

one of the big problems, by example, of these It's not creating a site web. It's not that really the problem. At the base,

it's just gary all the backlog of data that we have. I think it's Eric Kerr who had said that at the Commission Gallant, is that we,

generally, as individuals, like, as a citizen, like, in all the systems of the state Quebec

we exist of more of 120 different. There are more of 120 Mounier Khadori that it's

like, at the assurance malady, at the SAQ, all the ASAQ, I'd say, at the SAC, I'm saying,

yeah, in the case, it's not very I can say, a S-A-A-Q, by example, in Revenue Quebec. Or, it's like, like, an espouse of profile. We're a service Quebec-to-changement-dress who has reached a little unify all. But, he's what he will do,

the service-kevoeuvre, is he will go manually-changer your address in all these affairs that. It's just that we've created an espouse of a site where you can do you can't even be made five times, you know, I think, really, if there was, you know, if there was something to do,

when we're talking to nationalization, you know, a chancey, ambitious, It would not be to create a Facebook Quebecois or a YouTube Quebecua. As you say, the radio social like their interest is that they're world. It's like a tissue

that we're reliant to develop a interior of the state an independence numeric like these systems, by example, in-saintiff, that would have to

have with the companies, these suit-treaten. Really, that we'd have an expertise in-house. And, I'm worried,

also in all this, with the dossier that we've we've seen a bit periclite in the last year

it's the market of the mainstery of the people who are these great decisions to to bring

these chantiiers to partier or, you to get, they're not at even to bring these decisions

for our future because they understand even not these structures and then in terms of method

of development just in infrastructure nuagic to donate, there are there are there,

there are some people that try to Grosser in Quebec, there was a company, there's a company that called QSkel, who offers these services, that, who is in plain of croissance and who cherished

and they're newfound round of investors, and that's used that there were not necessarily the capital pre-in-investir, and there's people who want to invest in the government of that,

also, even the companies that we fund here, there's not necessarily the capital for the species of the species of those companies,

so they're obliged to be soldue to be soldue to have been used, to be able to the interest, the importance, I'm the importance,

the tech, are linked to the speculation more than, you know, it's a, you know, a rendment real. Well, it's, when you're in the info nuagic and in the denies, it's just you're just, you're using an infrastructure. There's one problem that I see that's mega,

is just when we decide, by example, to buy the service of Epic System. The problem is, the consolidation of these companies that that become mega

because they're they're chatted between them. Yeah, then after, that's, the leahue by the learer by when you go to

see, when you're going to see, but many more big big shareholders, it's, these gross fond of investment American, like BlackRock or Vangard or whatever,

who, they, will be partaged the actionaria of of the most great company American. All this lingo we're talking about, it's a pretty

percentage of the world, in fact, of all the humanity that's like, that's really part of that's creating with that.

There's a problem that I'm about, if we're talking, if we're talking, the example, if we're

all, an address courier, Quebec, genre, to say, is is I'm saying, is I'm trying to give you,

this party, like, intimate of me? You know, after that, is that I'm, if I'm, I'm trying to find out a project of law like the project

law C-Vendor in this moment, where is the government will just, like, to them give the system of back-end

for their same, to have access to the Patriot Act, where is that in the States are made to

espioning to put the planet for supposedly to look against the so, so even if it's

the structures private, it's it's not the government to say, like, hey, we'll

be able to work, we're going to you're full real, but don't you know access to

your own, you're there's a climate, genre of crisis or of crisis perpetual.

We're like in a kind of of crisis perpuitable for kind of for instore like,

quote and quote, you're off of doing it's something, I'm going to find, in some things,

and it's there's a thing of talking, to talk of development, of solutions or

of offers technology local, The time of the screen, I think that's another affair completely I'd like that to reduce my

time of screen but is realist Really? Not sure about that. Prochein message we come

to Sandrine. Hello, I'd just have your take on the tangente that's the time

from a certain time. Thank you I think I'll let the word to moon

for that I think he's more than more but you to go to consultate

his Instagram and I focalized on her bio. Ultra-humorist, drapeau of Canada, supported by

Altitude Sport, Oka, Nax, Bar. In metting, it's commandeer to the avant, I'm the impression it's

creator of content slash influencer. Well, he said, he said, he has fin of interview

with he in Paris recently, Jay Duttm He's... No, but I was I was saying,

Jay D'Dustom has, known like the apogue of what's a success popular, his run

occupation double. It's really had been at peak, You know, the COVID, all the everyone could listen to Odie. It's the face family that person had really

to quote negative to say, for me on YouTube. You know, you had some of it? It was not by it about it. It's not par par par par parable

that the utilization that O'Die did it in the show because I thought that over the run, he was a

pretty too present in the show. I think Od. It's about the candidates. It's nice that the animator so nice.

Not obligate all the block that comes with Jay Dutte Tom who who comes in the new new new

new ones, you know, a little more of the fan favorite, they're more used, we're remarked more, and it's very correct, de-hmm, it's just that we're there for the candidates, and I thought that O'D, and there, we see

more now that they've accelerated the seasons, to be, oh my God, we're gonna end up front of a house, we film their cotisies, but it's a series of tournage, okay, there, we film four days per semen, we film this block that

that, like the annons of voyage, we film this activity, that, on really to really to really to really, to really, so, you're really, in the form, that's all the form,

that's per se, you can't talk, to be able to, long time. There's plenty of my catalog on YouTube, if it's interesting. But I've met J.D. D.T.O.

We've done for we've done. We did a festival together there a couple of years. And he was it at the beginning of the new season of O'Don, where he was not be animator.

It was just before he, like, he, like, he's like, he decided to become YouTuber. We had talked, justly, and if

it was interesting, this discussion, is still called on YouTube. We had talked on television, and just to have in the media

of irritates in general, or even to find produce one-man show with these boards of prod. And what I I felt in he's like, I relate kind of a

same, it's that you're a lot of an immense control on what he did, and it's that comes with doing the project

on YouTube or like a podcast like a cafe snake. You know, Daphne and we're a control total on what on what you

do it's not a shade, let's not a show, let's not get a new end up a moment of there, there's there's all of

your company, but it's just it's part of the deal. But it's it's part of the deal. But it's just

the independence, the gentivity, the liberty, If it's that, your experience in the creation, after that, to do you have to do compromises, it's difficult. And then, I don't know if it's been any other example, like published at Chagherase, like, I've had been used several experiences of editions,

and then, my editors in Quebec me really made confidence, me have left to do what I want, and after that, when I was adopted in France, it's been really a other affair. Plus you accept to, like, participate at this space of dance institutional with the works that you create,

the more it's it's been with a part of a pair of control I'm not necessarily necessarily make a specific of what's a piece of

that's a question, it's a little time, not this year, the year that's not really,

and that's really, in the case, we've got to what it's gonna be able to it's a okay, I'd say,

I think that I'm gonna there, there's a theory like, oh my God, Jay Dutton Courke'clock

for Sarned of his problems, I think it's the nonsense, all this, all the sport, it has been a lot,

he has worked stand-up, and the stand-up, and the mentality of athletes that's made in the psyche of the stand-up, of my craft, oh, the gym, the open-mic,

and there, he's a lot of course, you know, he's said ultra-influenceror because, just they're like these sorts of course

in the book. But the humor in all that is part, or? He said that in the interview that there's a 15 minutes

of stand-up, I'm, I'm quite all these vlogs, and video on YouTube, and when he's when he's

to go to Paris, uh, just before in Marceille, he had done A showery of humor, he had done a set of humor he's still

there's a lot, but I think he has attained an espeteen an issue really, but he has a kind of comfort

financial, he generates the revenue with his production independent on your own, it's not not a set

problem, what's it is good, you know, and I've got that, that's really not developed

to make a production really latechie generally well, so, it's a company that the people

adore, the people adore that. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of on these videos that's

like to stomp and it's like something it's like there's like I'm not like to I think it's that's a person

attachment. Yeah, yeah, he's not there's not there's not there's not no,

I think it and I think I think it's I think if you go more so much if you go more than

the thing of course atop how it's it's developed of this travel, the application

of course social like they say because it's like a a radio social but also

a platform that doesn't use these opportunities for So Strava and you're going to become a company public at the Bourse. That's kind of interesting because

that's like the moment or the debut of the moment where is there's applications have beenerdify. Yeah, the Lentzification because necessarily when you become public, so you're rendered at the bourse, you're like a devourerer the actioner to generate more of profit. So, at long term,

it's obliges to cut the corners, to make in a lot that your application is more gamified, to more and more to be able to

get more more interesting to use it. It's like the updates to become to be more and more goodcent and more

innovative. In the backend Strava, in fact, there's quite there's a thing that I'm not over

there, I've read a text of TechCrunch, there's an interview with the CEO that I can you put you

an interview that date to the end of May, 2006. Strava that says that the community of developer

has passed to 185,000 to 241 million so it It's all the people who pay to have access to the API

to develop the structure that's used Strava. So, not the people who develop who are employed, but all the people

who create the content of like para Strava. Maybe it's like an application that would be... That would be... ...that's...

...that you could enter into a... ...that you can't create a club of course, whatever, we integrate the Strava, all the world,

we create an application of group of course that brings the data Strava, whatever. I see that the functionality group in Strava, I mean,

just... And Strava... ...and... ...and... ... more more problem,

it's the data breach, in fact, because when we think you don't much access to your localization for Strava,

and there's there's already there's been there's always, but there's people who are doing to make to do the

military, the military, the service secret French that we've had already to come to some stuff.

It's a bit like Instagram or so on Instagram you can't just let us on your

internet, if you're not connected to to your account, you can't you can't like to

look like the profile of a connect to a account Instagram for able to be able to see this new step that's just a new step

that's a new step that if you're not just to consult if you're not connected and they're they're saying they're their most big issue is the data scraping because there's people

invite these tools of intelligence artificial for scrape all the data of localization that's with Strava and he said that they're really

their more challenge. For to know where is where is the people are where they're what their habit of course of

training. And there's just a station of CEO that I think interesting that's just I'll translate it. In an interview with TechCrunch,

Michael Martin, the CEO of Strava, deep, I'll say in English, it's, unchecked AI scraping could be the debt nil

of the public internet. I don't know what what's going to say, but what's it would say, now, for all to go to get to

any point, it would have to have a count because we suspect would that you're a intelligence artificial,

that just just to bring the data, then then then maybe to create other models of people who

want to train the models, you're like, what course I'd like, I'm in Rosemont, blah, blah, suggest me a patois, interesting, because I have a beautiful view, an AI reprint the don't know of people who have

done with these courses in Rosemont for to make, ah, well, here's a new itinerary, and I'm, so I think it's interesting. It's, in this moment, I use not necessarily connected, but I think it's a tangent, also, that all the other sites are going to bring like Instagram, like Strava,

so that's interesting. But I just not really a great thing to do so. I think that the pandemic has been to be with the adventment at large-skill of the course at the year. Well, it's more large than the pandemic.

I think there's something who had cemented well, for example, I've been a library long time on John

In Quatuli and at every month, there had a club of course that had a club of lecture so he

had a class that was in the island, there's an anguument for that, there's even some

there's just boomed in the last year because it's linked also to this idea of having so much

and it's a practice that's a real also, you get social, and you're also

relational. It's a rapport with the gentrification. A lot of screenshots Strava in the profile Inge. All this idea to have access to some data to

to see, to evaluate with the metrics, the people who put these bag, I'll forget the name of the bagg, the URA-Wing

who will measure all sorts of things in your car to say, ah, you've been done today

or you, you know, you've done to, you, take attention, actually, you, we're,

we're, you, we're all we're in the data because we're so we're so that it it's data that, that's

with these applications or even just the structure of the radio social. So, the people want optimise, are you're engaged

in a processus of optimization physical or even, you know, of all the life, and I think it seems that's

embrike well, this trava, because you can gamify also your form physical, you know,

try to try to be to be paste or even to show to make to to get to be

so, so it's so it's an episode of Lines of Cafe Snake. Bonete.

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