café snake - Lignes Ouvertes #16

Episode Date: August 4, 2026

C'est ENFIN le retour des lignes ouvertes de café snake! Vous avez été très nombreux à nous envoyer vos opinions/questions! On vous écoute et on vous répond tout l'été!  Camille Mi...ssions de recrutement, publicités : quand Québec promeut l’immigration temporaire, Radio-Canada, Romain Schué ⁠https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/fr/nouvelle/2081173/immigration-recrutement-legault-quebec-trudeau-temporaire⁠Les travailleurs temporaires étrangers au Québec. Quels avantages pour les travailleurs qualifiés ? Diversités urbaines, Danièle Bélanger, Myriam Ouellet et Charles Fleury ⁠https://www.erudit.org/fr/revues/du/2019-v19-du04915/1065120ar/⁠RÉVOLUTION TRANQUILLE 2.0 et Rendez-vous du OUI Québec : on parle souveraineté avec Miriam Hatabi, Comité Panaris, ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sflZTG4xM-o⁠Frédérique The failed coordination of Canada’s social good sector, The Future of Good, Isaac Peltz⁠https://futureofgood.co/the-failed-coordination-of-canadas-social-good-sector/⁠Samira ⁠News Brief: The Call to Boycott—and Delegitimize—the New York Times⁠, Citations NeededJF The Whale and The Reactor, Winner Langdon, ⁠https://monoskop.org/File:Winner_Langdon_The_Whale_and_the_Reactor_The_Search_for_Limits_in_an_Age_of_a_High_Technology.pdf⁠Claudia The failed coordination of Canada’s social good sector, The Future of Good, Isaac Peltz⁠https://futureofgood.co/the-failed-coordination-of-canadas-social-good-sector/⁠Élo Maire de Laval: YouTube et le déluge médiatique, Mas Media Qc, ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DudVl6CQh0g⁠Jacob 2 The Typo Vibe Shift, The Atlantic, Michael Waters, ⁠https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/2026/05/typo-ai-trend-human/687237/⁠Post-Reality & A Hierarchy of Humanness, Whats Anu, ANU et Philip Teale⁠https://whatsanu.substack.com/p/2510-humanwashing⁠Rob Horning, ⁠https://bsky.app/profile/robhorning.bsky.social/post/3mmhpmn4nns2e⁠SophieÀ l’Ouest de Pluton, ⁠https://www.primevideo.com/detail/0MBRT0E2DQ0ZHE1QFL7BXONC3P⁠Alexia The Whale and the Reactor, Langdon Winner ⁠https://www.ratical.org/ratville/AoS/WhaleAndReactor.pdf⁠Dossier Crypto-Épique de Santé, Café Snake ⁠https://www.patreon.com/cafesnake/posts/dossier-crypto-155590202⁠Izara Satanic Panic: Pop-cultural Paranoia in the 1980’s ⁠https://spectacularoptical.com/product/satanic-panic/⁠In the trail, Isaac Peltz, ⁠https://www.instagram.com/p/DXPcV2mFjDa/⁠Kat The feed is fake, The Vulture, Lane Brown ⁠https://www.vulture.com/article/social-media-feeds-chaotic-good-projects-clipping.html⁠The Geese Psyop Is A Psyop, Garbage Day, Ryan Broderick ⁠https://www.garbageday.email/p/the-wild-geese-chase⁠Where Are the Rock Bands?,  Café Hysteria, Madison Huiziga ⁠https://madisonhuizinga.substack.com/p/where-are-the-rock-bands⁠Sandrine Jay du Temple, Faits Divers #49, Maire de Laval ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF_ncSMMmrQ&t=1665s⁠Entrevue avec l’humoriste Jay du Temple, Tout peut arriver ⁠https://ici.radio-canada.ca/ohdio/premiere/emissions/tout-peut-arriver/segments/rattrapage/1562607/entrevue-avec-humoriste-jay-temple⁠Joanie Your Chatbot Is a Fortune Teller, Not a Truth Teller, The New York Times, Jennifer Szalai⁠https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/29/books/review/prophecy-carissa-veliz.html⁠ Arnaud Le web prend un tournant sonore, La Presse, Daphné B. ⁠https://www.lapresse.ca/societe/chroniques/2025-04-06/culture-web/le-web-prend-un-tournant-sonore.php⁠Time to shadow network, The Trend Report, Kyle Raymond Fitzpatrick ⁠https://1234kyle5678.substack.com/p/time-to-shadow-network⁠Émile Un petit essai sur Angine de Poitrine, Mathieu Arsenault, ⁠https://www.instagram.com/p/DVKFxBiEb6M/⁠L'Xtrmst.Zen, ZiggyZa ZiggyZi ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJK2Q0eMfhY

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Starting point is 00:05:21 to talk about to talk about with the preft. So, to ask some questions, and mobilized the time.
Starting point is 00:05:27 So I was like recognized by the people in my class to make time. Just by 16 year, the vibe of the
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Starting point is 00:06:09 but in my time, it was that's said to be a bit in our life where you listen, the music
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Starting point is 00:06:20 really, oh my God, Mnourneur, I've heard a phase really nationalist. It's the core where is that I retrace the valentate the way of the Quebec
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Starting point is 00:09:24 And at a moment of a day, it's all right. Because, in the fact, I was in a campaign with my mother, so, proche, the Lings American. I'm demanager
Starting point is 00:09:33 to Montreal, and there's where I'm like I'm more even more than I'm on the school on the Rueh Street. And then, you know, you know,
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Starting point is 00:10:16 a grand fervant of CISM, I, at the second-air. So, the emissions that I'd, I don't know that, but the rongear of the risk, or even the missions of MCGIL, how it's it called, go-churched the Fusie. He'd be used
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Starting point is 00:10:43 5, who was on the surconsumation. Maybe if I'd find it in the notes, but I was this genre of person. Even that I had met an atolle
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Starting point is 00:11:07 Like, I had jetted the hounde on the P.A.I. I've got to talk to say that Moonee. It was kind of a moment in my life. I've got it. I have a few
Starting point is 00:11:15 I'm glad. I have the impression that I see the person that I was in but it's sure that I've evolved. In fact,
Starting point is 00:11:23 the vibe of my secondaire, I've seen a film Quebec- who it encapsule really, really really really well,
Starting point is 00:11:29 and it's the film that I recommend to all it's at all at the west of Pluton. So, there's a film realized by
Starting point is 00:11:34 Miriam Verro, Henri Bernadette. And it's really that, it's been out of my 2008. So, I just had been
Starting point is 00:11:40 to finish my secondair. So it's probably been turned during that I'm still in the life, the everyday
Starting point is 00:11:47 of young Banliusor Quebequois to 15 to 15 to 16 and I think it's a kind of
Starting point is 00:11:52 casting, you know, it's not all these actors. It's not this time, it's true, because you do that
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Starting point is 00:12:04 question of that's a question of the question, it's a time the essence of my seconder,
Starting point is 00:12:10 the vibe of these years it's magnificent like you talk about, you talk about you know, you represent a
Starting point is 00:12:16 point temporalal in the history of Quebec, that I think it's really
Starting point is 00:12:20 very much to do it very much to do you see a take concerning where where
Starting point is 00:12:25 there's there's there's Of course, Daphne, we've made mention recently because we solicit the moment at the house, but not that we're bombarded publicity of offer. There's a million-one way to make the money in a way dislocated, that it's a invest in crypto, the MLM, the revant of products cheap, and I'm going to pass, really, we'd probably pass the day, and I'm not named only fan,
Starting point is 00:12:51 but clearly, it's a source of revenue that, say, accessible, fast, and even at all age, okay? In from there, knowing that it's quite difficult to be a time see for the young, but not that's
Starting point is 00:13:02 and that's the case you're the interlililience artificial that could be able to this is being established, but I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:13:09 the government actually, we're completely over the pasted by what they're about what they're they're doing,
Starting point is 00:13:16 they're not their generation, perhaps they're not more of acuity and they're not affuteed for so, but can't it
Starting point is 00:13:23 there, there, there's impos, and the money. Is that really all you know, I think
Starting point is 00:13:29 not. And at how point the Avoort transit more locally in fact, and that finally,
Starting point is 00:13:35 in the coffre of the state, what's there rest? And I'm I'm a little revenue of a
Starting point is 00:13:39 employer autonomous, and I made my time this year, and I have made a
Starting point is 00:13:44 formular of a formule of a private who who have done in the internet,
Starting point is 00:13:48 and they demand by example, how many how site web and you procure of the
Starting point is 00:13:52 money, and how It's really at the discretion of to each one, to declare or not, but is it tracked? How? And I'm not in the secret of the deuce of all, I'm, I'm going to ask the question.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I've asked the question. Have you done with the info on this? Have you ever been thinking of a few Caffe Snaker because it's modern, well, well, thank you. So, for answer to your question, where will the money, well,
Starting point is 00:14:13 I'm, from a point of view fiscal, the different agencies of Perception of Revenue, that's so, Revenue, Quebec, revenue, Canada. It's a couple of years They've made the directives like they're more strict
Starting point is 00:14:26 on the revenue digital. There had even a communication that had been made been relayed in the different journals on, for example, the cados that the
Starting point is 00:14:36 people are they're doing their revenue, that it's going to be verified more strictly. There are there are
Starting point is 00:14:42 some kind of of a coup of clas that had been when a YouTuber Quebec I Kill You
Starting point is 00:14:47 Nabil had been evaluated and there had a reclamation that had been made of a revenue Canada of several
Starting point is 00:14:54 centen of million of dollars because he would supposedly not declare his revenue the web.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Certains only fan Quebecoise also, I seem, that's like some money, I'm doing,
Starting point is 00:15:05 some million, some dollars to the impo. And it's even with all the people,
Starting point is 00:15:10 but in fact, with all the world, because there, there, it's got to there's
Starting point is 00:15:15 more of chance to be able to be your declarations to the agencies there are there's a
Starting point is 00:15:23 time. It's sure that there there's a surveal, but it's not all these espies of some kind of there's not quite
Starting point is 00:15:30 to inquieter, I think, for enquieting, I'm a man, it's been on it, I'm, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:15:34 I'm a, I'm a work as a long time, I'm a , you know, a great, a bit of a
Starting point is 00:15:39 time, boom, it's on it's coming on there, and they don't see not only the decision of
Starting point is 00:15:44 the year past, but the seven years there's there for the revenue digital,
Starting point is 00:15:49 after, what you evoke at the beginning of the message, well, the money, well, the money voyage part to the world. It's what we're talking about
Starting point is 00:15:54 of Fiat currencies, but when we talk about the crypto, it's more more than much rependue and globalized. So, yeah,
Starting point is 00:16:00 there's a lot of people there are clearly people who can not declare the money that they find, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:06 I think, for example, the Patrione, like the the structure that we use in this moment, and it
Starting point is 00:16:11 seems that it's from the year that's probably, they communicate so-d-d- It's more than the
Starting point is 00:16:18 government, the government, They have your NIS. We, we're also even with an advocate for to be sure that finally we're
Starting point is 00:16:25 not only only we, we, we pay some we're paying the bad way that it's the good way that. But I'm just it's kind of
Starting point is 00:16:33 nebuleous and you know, you know, it's a little in a form of ambiguity. Personally, it's not all
Starting point is 00:16:38 the comptables who know how it's how it function, the Patreon. And, and certainly
Starting point is 00:16:41 that Patriot persoe the tax on each abodement. So, there's kind of a piece of revenue that's communicated with the agencies of perception of revenue. I think it depends on the platform, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:53 let's on YouTube, depending on the partner program on YouTube, they've demanded your number of social. So if it's fun, it depends of how you do your agent. I imagine that more it's professionalize, plus it will be regulated, but clearly, there are some people
Starting point is 00:17:06 who pay their impo. And I think that it's, it can, in the I work freelance, I see, I receive these C-4, but there are many of these revenues that I declare that I could technically not declare because I've not received T-4, I think, yes, the government
Starting point is 00:17:21 are pre-de-of-cour, the agencies are pre-de-court, but they're still pretty much, and also, you know, we see, some of pressure popular, of people who are doing reports, that's not only only to have, in Revenue, Quebec, revenue Canada, but, let's
Starting point is 00:17:33 at the protection of the consumer, when these influencers make not the hashtag pub or whatever, you, there are, you, there are, The people who are ready to monitor the practices of influencer or, let's turner, Lewis Lefoy, a streamer-keme-coxed by Francois L'A L'Aloffin'i, who's reproached by Francois, to not necessarily well do their impover, and that was that to be it's fair to runcassie.
Starting point is 00:17:54 So, it's, kind of, there, there's a flue that makes a sort of a sort of doubt constant on if these figures public, that, pay their just part. But I think that at a certain moment, when you're sur-exposed like that, there's, there's someone who is to be able
Starting point is 00:18:08 to verify if you do do you're in the end of the end of the end of the end of those who are
Starting point is 00:18:13 that's the extra rich, unfortunately. Just it depends what's the structure financial you but we
Starting point is 00:18:18 know, we have not the company, there's a lot of the impo corporative, all that,
Starting point is 00:18:24 it's like an other chand completely and an other practice so. Personally, personally,
Starting point is 00:18:28 each year for me. The impo impo, yeah, literally, Everrest. Hello,
Starting point is 00:18:34 Mounier. The year past, I've I've been a lot of Bats Bunny, and it made a reflection of Puerto Rico,
Starting point is 00:18:41 on the event of the reggaeton, on the fact to mix the more traditional, with the sonority more recent,
Starting point is 00:18:50 and how we could transpose that to make it, even if Puerto Rico and Quebec, it's really
Starting point is 00:18:55 different, I think that's kind of a point of different for these questions that
Starting point is 00:18:59 because to my conness it's the two sole territory of America who have
Starting point is 00:19:04 been colonized by a un-privance European, and then they've been colonized by another
Starting point is 00:19:08 power of a other power more than the language of the first power of European that's colonized.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And in the two cones are very close to the United, but in a manner different. And for
Starting point is 00:19:19 to regeton, it's a genre musical that's made at the end of the 80, to Panama and in Puerto Rico,
Starting point is 00:19:26 who's developed at Puerto Rico in the 1980 and that's to be to be able to
Starting point is 00:19:30 international at from the 2000. Today, in Quebec, think you that the conditions are reunied
Starting point is 00:19:36 for that a genre musical rhythmically and musicalically hyper-recognizable appear. And then,
Starting point is 00:19:44 what's you think you think that you can't to point of view structural or mediatic
Starting point is 00:19:49 for that can't be able to be able to be used to be a particular. And I
Starting point is 00:19:55 did it about what I did say before the fact to make the old sonority with
Starting point is 00:20:00 new. The music Trade Quebecoise has like particularity that the line of
Starting point is 00:20:04 percussion is quite systematically played by someone that's sitting the line of
Starting point is 00:20:10 percussion with his two feet. We call that Paudo Rhythmic is almost all the
Starting point is 00:20:14 time, tak, tack, tack a tack a tak a tack a tack a tack a tak a
Starting point is 00:20:18 pretty, even this rhythm that traditional and it would be a bass rhythmic
Starting point is 00:20:23 that's easy to copy because I think for something for something or copy
Starting point is 00:20:29 at grand scale or that's important that's that's quite that's quite can't be able to
Starting point is 00:20:35 get to happen after that the end up after that the 808 for the bass and the synthesizer for
Starting point is 00:20:42 the melody the sonority electronic I'm not musician but if you there are musicians
Starting point is 00:20:47 that's there's I'm that I'm sure I'm saying well I'm sure it's not
Starting point is 00:20:52 too hard-sug my thing, it's not a podcast musical but
Starting point is 00:20:56 it's that Good evening. Thank you, Emil, for your take. Good evening. I'm sorry, I'm not doing like, I'm doing this. I've done. I've done of your analysis,
Starting point is 00:21:06 the reggaeton, and I've not done research on the event and it's, but I think it's like a merge with all the rap that's developed
Starting point is 00:21:13 in New York, and the exchange that has between the gross diaspora for Turcan that in New York who had also
Starting point is 00:21:19 in New York in the years in the end of 90 and 20 and this exchange that because, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:25 some of these albums, it's du rap basically, the reggaeton, and it's sure that in the new album, there's someority different, which are a little more nostalgic, but I think that it's a lot of also all the things are developed by
Starting point is 00:21:36 the Afro-American, and the Afro-Latino, I think there's that also in this revolution. Well, it's that, it's touch the United, New York, the Panama, and you know, you know, you know, you've got to consider it also in an espouse of a diaspora. The Latinidad, it's immense.
Starting point is 00:21:49 It is very, very, very vast, and the language, I think that's the third-lang-the-planned in the world. So it's so it's in sort that the Wrigatan is vivant, there's a lot of influence
Starting point is 00:21:59 but it's circuls well, you know, it's also, it's augmante its power of diffusion. I think it's
Starting point is 00:22:04 related to some, you know, by example, migratory, which resone at the across several countries and
Starting point is 00:22:10 so it's transcends really more easily the barriers social, national, it has made in sort
Starting point is 00:22:17 that it becomes world rather than I'm not that, let's, let's be,
Starting point is 00:22:21 in a point of Quebeco. At least we know that, it's going to be my time. At least the Quebec
Starting point is 00:22:25 devine a place. Well, it's just, it's it's a beginning in the
Starting point is 00:22:30 Riggatton. So, for me, it's kind of more actual than the apodoo rhythmy.
Starting point is 00:22:35 You know, even the epiton, I've done there this last year, it's not
Starting point is 00:22:41 it's a time of people, I'm made a extra, I'm making we're really
Starting point is 00:22:50 the origin of that's what's the time of the music traditional There are all sorts of of explanations.
Starting point is 00:22:56 There are who said there was a music and there's to everyone to hear it, we'd make it on the
Starting point is 00:23:02 place, he was sitting on a chair, placed on a table for that the sound to the sound of the
Starting point is 00:23:07 sound. In this time there, there was there was there was there was there was
Starting point is 00:23:12 to mark the rhythm of the music with his feet. There's there are other who says
Starting point is 00:23:17 that no, in the fact, we're not we're not there's not the cause of
Starting point is 00:23:21 the clergy, so so, So, instead of jiggy, we've got to tap to the foot, there's in the encampment of bouchon, there were many of dancers of talent who were,
Starting point is 00:23:30 and there, they were developing the tapment of feet, I don't know. For me, the music crab Quebecoise, it's not a music that has a resonance in the present.
Starting point is 00:23:38 It's a music in my head that really a paste pretty fantastic, and I'm just a hate-y- But I'm also, the album of Bad Bunny
Starting point is 00:23:48 is literally that. The Apodotodooly. No, I'd have to to take more of photos, it's a nostalgia for a
Starting point is 00:23:54 neo-colonialism, a embourgizement of his own he has a view of the period, the veillies, traditional,
Starting point is 00:24:00 Quebecoise, I'm not a grasp there tis, whereas as you say, the riggeton, it's a music
Starting point is 00:24:05 of resistance also, it's a music decolonial, and it's linked to a context that's very relevant
Starting point is 00:24:10 again today. You have a resonance, there's a power, in the discourse
Starting point is 00:24:15 political that it can transporte, like music. The podo Rethan, it's not search, like,
Starting point is 00:24:22 like, frankly, yeah, I see not, and in my head, it's that the latinidad or the latinity, I don't know
Starting point is 00:24:31 that, it's really something extremely vast, the diaspora, and I can't the Quebec, I perceive more, and then,
Starting point is 00:24:37 I know, might be perhaps be frustrated when I'd say that, but a place
Starting point is 00:24:42 in the world, in the world, that's replying for it, for all
Starting point is 00:24:45 different of the question identity, we're we're just in the new.
Starting point is 00:24:50 In this moment, you know, there's a mountain of the right, in this conception that also
Starting point is 00:24:53 of the public traditional, this discourse that's to come to get on, it's not
Starting point is 00:24:59 pertinent, and it's not decry not the Quebec of today, it's anched
Starting point is 00:25:03 in a paste that's a question, let's, let's, maybe,
Starting point is 00:25:08 in gines of pootrine, you know, maybe this phenomenon viral, inusit, I'm
Starting point is 00:25:13 came on a Tick literally, there two years of DeFlipp Deppard, who was
Starting point is 00:25:17 I'm, trip on engine of patron. I'd like to play with them. I'd like to play with them. I'd say to what? I'd say, the past, okay? It's not like that that's all right. But it's not that... But I'd say, in a continuity.
Starting point is 00:25:30 There's not a disconnection, in fact, I think, that there would have a disconnection between the present and the past, even if... I understand, but what I mean, but what I mean, I'm saying, is that I
Starting point is 00:25:39 think not that... I feel not that the Quebec is replies. There's people who are replying, but how do you... I don't think... I don't think... The tapage of the
Starting point is 00:25:45 has a resonance in the context socio-cultural of today. Yeah, but it it's a way, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:52 you know, you know, it's sure that I'm going to the question, it's true that question, it's,
Starting point is 00:25:58 via Mark Fisher. Or what is particularly Quebec, you could go to go to the language,
Starting point is 00:26:03 you could go to the language like the franglet which is very Quebecoos
Starting point is 00:26:08 like the expressions that you have you don't you're not in France.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Exactly, That's that. If Jeanne Loo was not Morrow had, maybe we'd like, I'm saying, it's for sure that I'm sorry that I'm because it englob not the reality of what's the Quebec today. We're tombe in a pastime. It's not mean it's not something,
Starting point is 00:26:24 there's not a piece, there's not something that's there's not a question that's why, let's talk, let's talk, let's let's the dictionary of the Chilard, I thought it's a domic that's the Dictionary of the Chilor or the Dictionary Cemetery,
Starting point is 00:26:35 maybe there, there's a response to something that we could offer more than the francophonies to devout our rapport with the language, but I'm not just the English, the Creole, the Arab, all this language that's created, that's all right, it's not just in a song, let's see, in a series or in a film, if you'd have to refer to the Aynne, but at Montreal North,
Starting point is 00:26:54 like, I'd say, refer to the end, it's simplistic, but, like, the impact that I'm talking, for re-fair the film, but in the pot, after, I'd say, a rapper, a beat with that, you, it would be just like an espouse of sample. Ah, but we're an example. It's like a parody of a song, Quebec-oes, But it's all right
Starting point is 00:27:12 But it's a piece all the word of a little porto-tree, we're in an extrait there's a
Starting point is 00:27:17 face-a-off face-a- face-a-sa- peteeteee zazah your little my-e-vae
Starting point is 00:27:24 my-vol- my-e-voled my-e-gave my-gave-gah there's a point, we're there, there's also
Starting point is 00:27:35 on the stereotypes racist, let's the Quebequois Blan who who saw a guy noir, and who is like, hey, I'm me far volle. I'd say just
Starting point is 00:27:43 just du Blan, Quebec-Bloid. Okay. She's a moot, Quebec, Bale. This question, or, in-st-case, me made re-pensee to make re-pensate to the publication of MatusArsono,
Starting point is 00:27:52 that I had dissected a bit in an episode of Carfice Ney that revenue on gene of Poatrine, and he said that relevered of a
Starting point is 00:28:02 filiation Quebecoise, that created, their image, all what he made in scene, it was very Quebec. I'm going to make the
Starting point is 00:28:10 Carousel Instagram in the notes of the episode, because it's really a little essay intellectual, but published on the form of slide Instagram, and he said that basically, it had these rapporteur similar. It's, it that it had been seen
Starting point is 00:28:24 to the banne-Genegras that had existed, like the George Leningrad, Duchess Cess, but also that it reprenna of the art visual, Quebec of the years 60, 70, of Gauvro. You, I had talked of his language Explorrean, language with
Starting point is 00:28:38 with these words inventing. So there's some famous the refue global and that it's inscribate in the affiliation
Starting point is 00:28:44 of modernism artistic, who was in Quebec who had been like a voluntary of human. So,
Starting point is 00:28:51 produce an environment where we were sure of the identity, you know, like when he was,
Starting point is 00:28:56 he had, all the world and he did they're doing it not with their words, they did not
Starting point is 00:29:00 their name. In Quebec, it's this current this current that, modernism, this
Starting point is 00:29:04 of the voluntary of the human, in reaction, just to an identity collective, aqueathment of certain artists for the identitar. The Quebecois, the nationalism, identitar. And when the nationalism
Starting point is 00:29:17 identitar, at each time he frapped a mur, finally, the mur, of the violence, of the exclusion of supremacism, and it's still developed in response
Starting point is 00:29:24 to that, you know, it's still just the last year, it was, the news, this story of
Starting point is 00:29:31 cagouled at Chah Winigan, who had branded a banker, who'd say, I'm I'm sure of a Quebec Blan. You know,
Starting point is 00:29:36 that also it's a part of the culture Quebec-to- maybe that's quite a clue in the country
Starting point is 00:29:43 white, there's a tendency much more large that the people Caucasian-blan are in
Starting point is 00:29:50 pant-dendant in their re-newlement demographic. It's just it's just it's part of the
Starting point is 00:29:55 blanchitude, to feel that we disappear. But the people, it's not different,
Starting point is 00:30:00 but what's it's not, because they're they're even like decolonized? Well, there's literally the conquite.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Well, it's decolon at the base. Yeah, for sure. But there's a conquite. Then, there's a rapport of class. It's had been
Starting point is 00:30:14 a class inferior. They have been divided. We've been in the psyche. In ways, in the psyche, there's a different.
Starting point is 00:30:20 And WASP American, have not the same rapport to a publicer even that a American, even that his father is
Starting point is 00:30:25 in the Quebec king and he erritted in a gross business, he's different than a fucking protestant of the exact,
Starting point is 00:30:31 so that's for that I insist on the fact that it's part of the culture Quebecoise. It's idiosyncratic. He said
Starting point is 00:30:36 he said that Matthew Arsonneux it would be in the music, in the modernism, in the tradition modernist Quebecuase,
Starting point is 00:30:44 this desire to find an other, a other, who, to be able to be to escape
Starting point is 00:30:50 to the question identity. I don't know, if it's really that that we could say
Starting point is 00:30:55 that we're people, or so, is the kind of the language, a language a more
Starting point is 00:30:59 metised. You know, I'm on a publication of Kinge, recently, he was probably just about
Starting point is 00:31:05 the franglis, and he was not more Quebec than the franglet. After that, you say, that could have to find out
Starting point is 00:31:10 another name for this language because there also there's also the improup of Creole,
Starting point is 00:31:14 it's like that we talk, it's like that we're that's just what you say,
Starting point is 00:31:21 what's what you're not of me that I'm that I'm that I'm that you explain,
Starting point is 00:31:23 it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like yeah, it's interesting thank you
Starting point is 00:31:30 us have launched this question. After, I'm not sure if we have been answered.
Starting point is 00:31:36 But, yeah, in fact, it's a double step. It's that that will takeover.
Starting point is 00:31:41 So, it was an episode of the Lines O'Brien for Atee.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Thank you to us listen, we're really privileged. I'm will you go back
Starting point is 00:31:52 the formula hybrid of Caffe Snake, we we're
Starting point is 00:31:54 we're present in times and you Exactly. Thank you, everyone, to listen, and I hope you're going to
Starting point is 00:31:58 and I hope you're going to pass a very a very much. The music of intro and outro. Aslo. A Z-L-O. Thank you.

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