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Episode Date: December 23, 2025

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Auditor, Jean-Pierre Gorkinian Wow, Fulistation for this podcast for this community that you constructs

I've been really, you are really, you are very, you're so embarrass, a chapeau, and thank you for

us offer this content. My take, Daphne, you know a little talked in a precedent

episode. An auditor had atter had atter attention on the walk the walk, a tune

generated by I, who was here at a summit of a palmarise. And you had

profited for to do make a effect that LIA would excremed the

language at the plume more generic, I remember not how you had formulated, but then you have said, and I'll have noted, the people who have really

a word idiosyncratic, singular, it's them who are going to rest. Then Montec will, in this sense, but I'd say a bit more long,

I think that 2026 and the years, we'll assist an return in force of the poetry in literature. Why the poisey particularly?

Because I think that the models of language are to become at this point sophisticated that the romance and the essays will be able to write all on a game of tonality and of style

according to what the operator will prompting. We see already in the scenario the IA is super performant for generate these scripts, these scenes,

the dialogue. Nipot of who with a concessance minimal in dramaturgy can improvise scenarists and we can

We understand why the scenarists are partied in in the States United. But rest that the scenario is not a

document destined to be used by Mr. Madam All-Mond. It's a little

object transitory that serves to give the info to the production for to turn the film. It's the

film that is the product that we will be and not the scenario that the public will

learn. It's for that it's very tentant to use the generator of text when you

can't because you see that after you have like 10 other Couch of

craters which will get to like the direction photo, the conception sonor,

the show of the comedians, the music, all these affairs that.

So, in the fact, you want, you want to make the table for that

work and that work and that work very, but in literature, it's different because

that's the text that's the text that is the product final. And if you're not

a language that's demark and can't really, a word idiosyncratic particular

as you mention, well, you risk to produce the text interchangeable like a generator. I think

that the poise, and it's really because I think it's the form literary the most ancient,

like two, three, four, four, nine, I think, she will come,

because the poetry re-invent the language, and she entertain a rapport indeterminist with the

language, while the generators of text like Chad GPT entretien a rapport probabilist, mathematicalistic

founded on the principle of the recurrence and the correlation. So the generators are all the time reproducing

the language that have already have used. You say CHATGPT recrache the past

because the paste has a probability more greater of recurrence than

what is to inventing. And the Poet is that she's that she makes,

she reinvent and reinvent the language. She'll open these new chemines.

She breaks the line of fut she does to see to see a world

differently and I think if there is a kind of that there's

a way, it's the and it's for that we want to learn that

we're so so, vive the poet and live the poise

thank very thank much Daphne Mounier I think

that the poetry is back I'm I'm with the definition of the poise in general that you don't, but I think that it's just really a little petite portion of the

practices poetic that correspond really to that's a way, I'm not in the essentialization of a genre literary, it's a lot of there are many people who are different, and for each poet, the poetry, it's something of different. I think there's really a shitload of poetry that is ultra-generic, and then I talk, I mean, in as a poet.

And, I'm talking to someone who has seen a lot of poetry from the two three after the two years, it's like

after the two years, I'm I feel when someone is real, and when someone

does what do you think it's the two terms that I have. For me, it's

really a territory of a common. It's it's the place by excellence

of the place, and I love the poetry, I say that like, but the

number of recue of poetry of works poetry, of works who are really

susited for me of the admiration and kind of pretty, you know, I don't know

I'm not like a snob, but I mean that when we're really really a lot of something, we're kind of

in our lectures, I think. It's the flea that in the disparate curve,

the entrae of my name. Justly, in the poetry Quebecoise, you know,

the fluve, it's one of the nature can be in interre, uh, quite that, you know,

we can't talk about of nature and not to come necessarily in some other

thing that I had found interesting, that was a little bit a countercourant of what

I've already said about the avonement of the grand model of language,

and what it would favorize. So, I said that it would favorize

finally the power idiosyncrac as singular and I read recently, a text

of Max Reed, which I talk often in Cafe Snake that's

will will AI writing ever be good some notes on

AI writing. So, I recommend It's, again, again, in the notes. And at the beginning, it reprint, at the time of Sam Chris. He will, you know, investigate on the capacity

of these robots, to write to the good prose literary. He said, we're exergue, by example, the tics recurrent, of the LLM. So, by example,

he seems to have all an obsession for the phantom, the spaces limineau. He utilizes the word quiet, in English, so silenciergeal, silence. It's like

if at the interior of these structures there were there were in there's a common that's the place

that's the human yeah, but it's a little bit, it's like if I'll

say I'll say exactly what Max Reed did, he made some examples of metaphor that the

LLM created, so the dey, the tithes got the metal, the emotions

are draped by the same the phrase, the deye to the color the blue.

So, we're like but a little cheap, that we, the human, we've done also,

so a effect literary, a good market that serves to impresson a bit of people who just have

a lecture maybe a superficial of a text, exactly like the kind of false profounder

that's, so-d- -spaire to a grand public, and it's for that the LLM

has been optimized, in the form for the production of this genre of this genre of

text that, justly, this sort of effect poetic, it's quite a lot of , you know, there's more the chance when you know a recue

of a poisey that you tombe on this kind of of effect poetic that, that you tombe

something that really, we'd say, re-invent the language, let me, I'll say that another

way, I say that I think that the poet has tried to do the poetry that

corresponds to the image that we're doing, the image that's said that's interesting also,

is that there's this possibility that also that we never really trying to create a chatbot, a LLM

that would be good at the prose literaire which would actually, that would be the text that would

be singular because the writing like that singular is not necessarily that's not necessarily the same that's the

chatbot in so, the technology that's created but often it will respond to the imperative

economic, technique. It's so, it's good to make these espous of little titre of Slide Canva for these presentations

of Mackinsey the company that's used the plus CADGPT to the world? He said there's just

simply not enough of demand for these written for the plan formal or particularly memorable

for that vile the pay the pen to invests in the resources necessary for form a model

that would be capable to do that produce this genre of text there. There's not

of incitation commercial to do and it's not a market that's lucrative to be overse even the grand non of the literature for example like I'm like I'm

a fan of Clarice Lyspector well Clarice Lyspector it's not really Mr. Madame all the world who it has

already or even in the time that it's still she, she she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she,

she, she, she had, finally, if we want to respond to these imperative economic, just we will visit a

type of written which is generic, which is mid. And there's often also these texts

that are memorable that are marked the history that we're going to learn about the way, it's these

texts that are kind of in the sense where there are people who there are people who

have done to do you know, there also a majority of people who are some crissed

and they're just like open their and they're saying I'm going to say, wow, I

never read that. So, there are like, there are, like, there response

rather negative to to the texts that are singular and he will say, I think

it's more useful to consider the grand model of language, not not like,

as the equivalent, by example, of an different in a domain

specific, like the theater, the poetry, and we were we talked about

for example of scenario, but more like as the representatives, of systems or

institutions in their ensemble, which is the product and he will give an example we'll not

compare a LLM to a redactor in a magazine like L, Quebec but we could very well think to LLM as an

ensemble of the industry the magazine at the moment where she was at his apoget because there in this moment

I would say the magazines it's a little in periclite and we imagine very well

that the industry of the magazine when it's a machine giant well it it's

produce these texts that are complex, but previsible in their ensemble, and it's a

great variety of text on the tendencies mode, the tendance makeupage. And all

this industry in its ensemble at the moment where it had at his apoge

was able at a LLM to generate these texts that had a certain degree

of previsibility but it was also at the quality some all quite quite

quite quite quite relever, there there were not of error of syntax and it's

these words a vocabular kind of pseudo researched that was used I think that this type of these type of

language it's also in the sphere academic the studies of the degrees, the doctorate I think it's

there also that it's like it's like really to know that I'm I'm a person who is a

masterise in this moment that the person who supervise his matures upload each of

these texts of these papy, these texts academic, in a grand model of language and he says

all the time every time she she'll upload in a model of a language and he says, re-ecry that in my style,

correct it. The grand model of language does that so it's already in this moment in the middle

academic really used. And it's it made also because I had turned something with someone

who has a company of video in the Milan who uses the generation of AI but then

we talk of image and of modelization 3D but they pay for, I'm not not exactly the name of

software, but it's just like an kind of mechanism virge of generation AI, so there not influence

nothing, and they upload in the style of an artist. So an artist will make several designs and they're

all put in this model that, so it's like a filter that makes on mid-journey or put-import

and at part of that when they're they have been when they're All the AI, the generer, but based on the aesthetic of an artist. And the artist has done his consentment. An artist who works for his company of video.

Okay. He, how he'd describe that, is for that the artist can't work more rapidly, and that's he's himself who is implicated in the utilization of the model. But, you know, when you talk to the milieu universaire, I think what's that it makes in exercise, is that there's a lot of text. Because, finally, it's a gross machine. It's an institution, the universities, and there's this idea of publish or perish.

Productivity, yeah. Where the professors are obliged always to generate these texts. And I think that it's a imperative that's an imperative that we're going to generate these texts

rather than really generate of my sense. And we see also how the standard of writing, the way to formulate its own university, in a structure

like an university, it's very formatted. And it's a type of thinking that is finally replicable, which is, at my sense, non-swetable, totally. And I think that it makes in exegg

the fact that the university has kind of, has been a kind of a form of an engine at production, not not to know, not to say, but of text

of... The slope. No, memorable. Yeah, effectively, John. Prochain take, Genevieve. In.

The maximalism. Auton in the deco than the deco than the style vestimentaire. The crises social, political, ecological and economic that we live presently will us to chere even more advantage the fact of having a toa, an universe at-so, that we are hotly personalised,

as a sign of empowerment and of resistance face to capitalism that we want to ulyss, the controlled, of the identical, because it's more simple and economic than so. At preve, certain researchers have demonstrated that the products of consumption offer to more than more of colories varied if we compare to options

offered in the middle of the 20th year. The year will be the year where we'll arborer our trinkets, like the labubu bought in the last years in our look than our spaces of life.

Go! The imprevisibility. Go! The creativity. Go! The unicity. Anyway, we have not the way to pay more

than the little babioles at the manner of the lipstick index so we're so we're so much

with exaggeration so I'm so I've been to let's get to it what you've been to hear what

you've been and the maximalism I think it interesting because it has been long time

that I've got to me to me the musical in fact I'm

you know I've been a recru decence of the esp maximalism musical musical

incarned by these currents like the Hyperpop or the rage rap and then I'm really more of rap underground a bit part of

the world even in Quebec you know how we could compare like the productions of LB66 the producer

of the songs of Kinji as it's these productions that are very maximalist if you will listen

the beat of the song Revolution not tranquil I'm Donnie I'm gonna

me to say I'm gonna be fucking Really, yes, Kinji, he cries, he will do a revolution not tranquil, but it's really the production that makes a lot of this song. And all of that, it's like inspired in a current that comes to California, the rapper like Net Spend,

Xavier So Bass, Chi, To Hollis, it's these rappers who have, like, dominion the three, four, the years of years, I'd say. And they're really like, let'sone, if you're going to cross a young girl of 15, 16, but it's these rappers that who will aim and the form mainstream

of that is the rappers like Ken Carson or like Playboy Cardi who are really like pioneered

all this aesthetic sonically and I'm I think it's proge of the musical

so not just in the decor is what I think it's related to the air of time maybe

maybe maybe I'm I'm like that like the kind of the process of

just in the history contemporary of the rap I think it's kind of that's

that is there We're going to even at the punk, really at the end of the code preceding the rap the people who

have made the rap all their life and they're like, I'm definitely too old, I'm not why the young listen it,

it's not good. It's not good. Like, the party. And it's I'm thinking to the kids

who listen to the music of Geometry Dash like that's really a niche but there's

many kids that listen the music of game mobile that music that music who listen

just the hyperpop of the hundred gex you know Yeah yeah yeah

yeah yeah it's coming with the butt you're yeah yeah

yeah Yeah, it's kind of interesting. Well, I've consulted, like, each year, the kind of a species of revue, prediction, of tenance that produces Pimterest

at each year that would be to be able, and he's based on the data internal of the company, you know, what has been the

most researched, and what's he's part of the mood board of the planet Earth, we said,

just, that in 226, the people had to be in the maximalism, the decor circassian,

the aesthetic ursons enjoled. We talk of maximalism chic, of clune, of cirque,

of machiage deparelier, we're even of Afro-Bohemian, and we say it's not a rapport with the

maximalism, but that the choo will be at the honor in 2006. I'll

make the if you want to the species of the predictions of Pinterest, it's quite

more in a context economic, where the clivage it's accrued and there's a kind of

multifugrant of the inflation, but we'll be able to get to be to make, and make, and effectively,

that I think that the second-mend to an aesthetic more eclectic. Well, it's that

also, and I think in the mode, that's sure, that I'm, let's be to go to

go to Cep to the Vue Montreal, you know, how the people, you know, like, it's

really at the front plan, you know, okay, the jeans are baggy, but he will have have some time we're custom of the affairs,

we go, like, if you look a little, the stethic, shadow we're going to be able,

it's, try to make a fit that seems to make a kind of a television, you see, I'm not,

but it's just a fit that's like debusole when you look, that you, that's,

that you're that you can be able to can't, that you can't be able to complete. And,

out, out, at the reverse, the minimal, the minimalism, the monochrome, adieu millennial gray, the epoch where we've been

is already as a deprimed of them. Not a sad bej without any personality, when the tristess we'll cross at all the corners. This esthetic

of the purity has clearly not saved the world, then out. By extension, the Van Life and out also. The presensile

is to more more reclaimed by the milieu corporative, and it's not in jangling with two or three jobs for jaundre the debuts, that you can to leave to

partier to partier to partier to partier. To be more vulgar to be a similinomad when some are forced to

dormer in the street, or if they are more chance in their vehicle. Well, I think that

2016, it's going to be the year of Marianne Pleasance in fact all people all hate

on maximalism all these years and then it's and it's also I think that the minimalism is the esthetic that's a bit of the privilege.

We're talking like during the years Marie Condo or like a rampart against the hyper-consumation but, but, at the contrary,

I think it's pretty elitist. And, often, a decor minimalism is technological it's quite just coordinate

finally this aesthetic that for that for that all the same color or in the same tonality, it

costs share. The beige live, it's bougie life, You know, it's a because it's because it's because it's

many people who are there's a lot of people who are there's a lot of people who are why it's like why it's like some people who are

people who are people who are many who are so much who do decide to decorate their apartment

even, you that I think that I think this idea to get the things, it's perhaps it's perhaps

a reflex of people who have more because you do you do when is when is that I want to

have been on have been it would that's probably that and I'm not the go

to get to get to I'm not a lot of a lot of a little a new sleeping

a new little too so the people who in a eventuality in an

eventuality just to find more with poor so who can't be able to

get back to get back to some it's the people also

can't be to always to always to always to get to

they're Manquay. And it's just also for say that the ornamentation in the

history, it's often something that's something that we're in a market, when we're

when we enter, by example, in a mosque, or in the the most the most

the world that we have visited, it's everywhere sort of these espels of the

moulogues, the sculure, the colors, the, how you see, the,

the, the ceramicic everywhere this idea of minimalism. In fact, there's this idea of blanchitude and defacement

of the distinction cultural behind each object of the eritage cultural also of an object. We're capable to situe

in the time, in the space, in a region particular. And, often, just, the cultures

who are non-o- occidental, they're having some markers colored, rich,

ornamented. The the racine of minimalism it's kind of the supremacy blanche

and the fascism finally. And for the van life I think that fucking drool that's like to add

that's like my little sister and their life goal when they finish their school when they

finish their life to this day. I would have tend to think it to be nomad to try to try

to come not be part of you say oh yeah yeah and in vogue, all these movements to stop

to stop, but I think the objective is just to not have the job, you know, it's even not the...

I think it's in... Unemployment. Abolish work. It's so, you know, I think it's the idea, just

partier with a van and try a way to pay to the buff, and just like not look back,

well, I'd say that the representation of van life the most realist what we have

in Quebec, and the more glamorous, it's for those and the who is the know Mary Eve Mongrin

on TikTok so there's a personality that's controversial who did live who has

two children who has lived she has she has not a mother

she has she lives she she will parkour in the years she

reigned in the back in the year and it's really someone

who who had there's there yeah but you she will

go to go to the bank alimentar, you know, that there's some problems financial, that you have no money, but who lives can't even this life that at fond with

these two children. And for me, it's really the real portrait of what's that what can be this type of life that, but without the glamour.

Okay, so the next day Simon. Hello, Daphne Pimuneal. I'm called Simon. I live at Halifax. And my question for you, is when I

were the more young, it me seem that Parley Chiac, so how we we're talking in French in New Brunswick

in the South to New Brunswick or is we use the English in a context francophone. It was a

mal-vue to be able to the Quebec and I remember even radio, radio, had been on the whole

on the and it was like, get to talk about to talk about our accent, we've

talked to talk about more of term anglophone in the phrases in the

French and it's certainly to the internet and the memes and all that. And I'm like, is you

think that you have a certain evolution of French Quebecois a bit more inclusive? And I

wonder if it's like in my time, the media francophone it was really like the Quebeccoe

so a media francophone in Canada it was really very Quebec-centric and when for the francophones at

the exterior of Quebec, it's not when we're not quite, but it's not really for us,

so we're doing it, so we're now with the internet and all that, it's all it seems

that the memes and the media anglophone commence to take, I'll not say,

it's infiltrate, but to put more the place in, in the vocabulary, Quebec or

I don't so I'm so I'm also there just give a a couple idea, and we'll

see what you're going to do you're doing but it's like when I know when I when I'm when I'm

talking about when you're talking about you see that in a point of the point of view of the

francophon Canadian or is the last last referendum in the province maritime we're

we're not if the Quebec so separate it's like we're not not isolated

and in the time the people say if the Quebec so separate the Maritine,

maybe it would have we're going to get to the United so in the context

we're in in the context that I'm really not really not that we're

that the promise maritime should be that the United so I think it's

I'm wondering just what your perspective your perspective there

and also like in gross it's what the role of Quebec in the francophon

Canadian in this moment if we're connected and it's more a vocabular of internet plus anglophone

so I love your show continue it's really super and thank thank you definitely

I've seen a progression of the anglicization of the French or the usage in any the Englishism

in how the people talk, how I'm it's kind of documentate because we can be

the evolution of my of the usage of the language in the six, seven the years of years on my chain YouTube. It's really, I think, that I think I was talking about, because I had an other chain YouTube in 2018 that's called The Brunch, but I did

do with Joanna Dodd, it's more on internet, but if you'll listen to that, you'll see how you'll see how many Englishism there. I think, even Loki met an extract, just just to we'll just to understand, like, the level, you know, 2018, I'd live at Water, Sherbrook, all my friends at Concordia.

I was just like really in an environment anglophone and more culturallyally it's like the peak of rap

the peak of me that's the podcast of rap and that these books of Malcom Gladwell

in English you know some self-help book anglophone I think effectively the French

even when we talk of Quebe it's something is fluid because each language will change

it's never fixed it in function of the people it has been the

immigration but also the culture we're talking here of the disengagement of the

young, but, you, the young and the more young and the media traditional which is that we consume

the culture, by example, by example, the creator of but it can come and that it's influenced

our way, like, I remember when I was when I was when I was every time

I'd demenage with my new collock, I'd adopted their fashion to talk about, their fashion to adoptive as a

new language, the new new refs, you know, I think interesting for to talk about a rap

underground in and other because I think I think it's stymatic that in the time because I've come

of a course in France because I like I've like a lot of the middle of the rap

underground Quebec but also French, I think that interesting because it's not,

we're, we're we're trying to think it's something that's something

is really an example of like the attractivity styleistic of the English in the French.

It's even not just like a rapport colonial of the regime federal and the imperialism

American, but it's not a rapport with the proximity. Yes, in the underground there's the English

that is like ultra present. I'll let you get an extract in a rapper

that's that's I'll let you put you run on the train during

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm back back

back behind I'm right I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

It's the dumb, Esau. He's a fool of the car I've got to get in the train. If you run in the train, it's a different time, though my voice,

it's the best of the drug. Bitch, I'm a guy, I'm a little bit, you'll have fleck on your dress. Arreight to reject the foot on your teeth. You're not, man, it's because you're a clung.

It's not even not even not quite in English, but this song, one word on two is in English. And then after, it's encarene too

in these rappers more mainstream like Zola or AMSA who, they preen their inspiration directly of Monreal. So, there's like, in the rap French, there's this idea

to have captured how many rappers like Roger or like, like Jeunlou rap if we're talking in English, you can't

not not mention Dettobies, you know, Dereobies, in the middle of the years, when the album Montreal, the South,

a album that's excessively filled of Anglicism and it had made the controversy, the texts

of Sophie Ruchier, one after when they were when they were, the way they were, it's really

like, it's, it's really, to everyone on parli, he has said, for me, I'm very Friarangli, and shout out at Shadow Wizard of Money Gang, and at Mike Shab, it's not sulevered, you know, but that's because 10 years ago, they were told, and they were made ramacet.

But, I'd say that, by the last the English, you know, we pass, for example, those young, like my nephew, who listen, the YouTuber French, and who's met to talk with these expressions

French. So, Arab. What I like, is all the discourse that talk to preserve the purity of a language. because for me it, it's not a language pure.

I have the impression that these discourse that's a way more socially acceptable to say the purity of a race, or of an ethnicity or I don't know

how you want to call it, but because there we're in, as we're in the domain of the culture, of the literature, so we can't

make all of a whole of a word to say puret of a language while that exists not. In plus, I've got to

the interview with Patrice Roy just about when we're when we're talking in another question, but he

He talks of the sovereignty like just an affair to protect the French. He doesn't not. At the way, he says,

well, Beki, he's mom to protect the French. He's all he's too to be able

down the issue referendor to just protect the French. It's kind of interesting. Well,

it's so, for me, it could be a form of, you know, when we talk to the language

and that's it's quite sometimes a dog whistle. It's there's already someone who had

said it's a replacement like a seconder, aiscier. He had said the language, it's

the language, it's the same that's the same that's really reasoned in me, and at the day I'm sure you know,

it's what I'm saying, you know, I'm in that's the language that we talk, okay, which is just not in

this idea of purity, it's the language, with all these errors, with all these anglicism,

with these words invented, it's the language of emotions, it's the language of the

language of the world. And for me, just as time practiceian of the alteration, I think that's this language that

that I'm going to put it down, it's in this language that that I'm going to be, and the referendum, and the maritime, well, if you know, my view, personal as far as, I think, I'm going to, I think, I've asked, you know, I've posed exactly this question that on the francophone

off Quebec, at Paul St. Pellarlandon when I had interviewed in 2022, and the people had pointed in the comments, oh, my God, look, the et cetera in his eyes, when Mounier we posed, this question he, his idea, is that the Quebec P.I. will permit to reinforce the population francophone

at the exterior of Quebec because it will permit to Quebec to enjoy this kind of role of leader and to finance the initiatives to Canada as in mode of cooperation international, with these

ONJ Quebecoise who will aid the development of the Francophonies Canadian. So he saw this idea not as a recule for the Francophonies Canadian, but he will permit to solidify

because it will guard the Quebec Francophone. But, you know, I don't know I see not how the Quebec

country will be able to see, I think it will have some arrangements frontally for that the Quebec

is not like enclave in the Canada. I think how the management of the country,

I think it will be different to come live, in the case, maybe it will

have been there will be able to maybe he will not have just on quite, not the

two sides. I don't don't know how it can't how it's sure that if the new Brunswick who would have joined

and he voted for join, I'm doing the new Brunswick. We can't Alifax too, you know, you're at

all right. But he could also have just a partanari cultural, and perhaps an engagement more pronounced

of the Quebec by the , in the case, it's what P.S.P. do you know, I don't know I, but I

don't know I'm concerned to the guy that guy like Okay, Daniel. Hello, Daphne, hello to

all the audience of Caffes NIC. I'm called Daniel, and before to to start and give my

co-out to my company who have been introduced to the podcast. It's been

my discovery of the year and I appreciate enormously so continue the

good work. My tag is not if it's a in a word

out or a tech more general but it's by

the lack of respect in the intelligence of

the people people people of the government of the Kake

and for just my propos, I would have three examples that are, I'd say, so recent or maybe more

forget, but I think you know, you know, for explain the text. So, the three examples, I'd say,

I'd say, the more recent, I'd say, the more recent, I think that person to have never to the fiasco

on the click. And then, you've already already in the podcast, but in a way general, is that,

So, it's just a scenario that is real, in all the case, it's a fiasco. If François Lego knew, all the problemat behind,

it's just a great mentor because he says that he's not. So as a chief of state, he just diminue the confidence over the government.

If, on the contrary, he'd say long on his gestion, because how is the chief of the state

is not the current of what is going to click one of the more dossiers in term of informatics. Evident, that's a text

more recent, so I think don't know that's a lot of this man of confidence about the

intelligence of the Quebecos. My second example, it's about all the saga of

three-in and then we could give a point about to the decision, the change

of cap of the government, the va and argumenter, but for me, the the more

lack of respect it was when they were to try to us make the metric of density of pon per capita.

Where he said that in Gros, but in Montreal, there's many of million

of people, it's a lot of in New York, while Montreal is a hill. And I

think that to say that the people, and people are just the end of

saying, I think it's a great lack of respect. And for me the

last point that I'm the most affected, especially in time

immigrant, is when the actual minister of the work, jamboulet, if I'm trombe not, has just said that the immigrants work less, and

speak less French. And it's insulting for several reasons. The first is that it's fool. The second, it's also that, in time as an immigrant, we have the chance to be acquey here to Quebec,

and we're in front to go to go to go to our different projects, and it's integrates the culture Quebecove, and to be far to say that, it's extremely insulting. And the second, the

second point also, it's the fact that there's no repercussion the minister at this time is the same

than the minister actual he passed these reforms and I think we've also so I think

my take my take is what is what is what is the lack of respect in

the intelligence of the people and what is in it's the fact that we

don't not the quote original the citation came to PSPP

I'm I'm not I'm not fan of PSPP but during the victory of the party Quebecois

in Jean Talon he has said that the people have led a party that had respected the intelligence of the

Quebecois and I think the situation is adequate and I think not that you think it's my take

thank very much and to all the audience of Caffe Snick I'll have a time

forate and good nice thank you thank thank you I think I think

I think it's really the point for for for for this segment I came to listen to François Leggo

who made his predictions for the year and he says that the PQ will descend in the because the people don't know

that PSPP will make a third referendum and I'm like he he's really the Quebecoe for an espice

to tarry who is too occupied to listen to like I'd say I'd say I'd say like the tracheer

and listen in direct of the universe and try to work 50 60 hours for pay his hypotheque, who is not capable

to comprehend the dynamics political fundamental of Quebec, you know, he thinks really that the elector way, a level of, like, literacy, really boss, you know, he's, like,

he's, like, you, how he's, like, how the respect to the intelligence of the people talk. Lentment, in detaching

each syllab? Yes, and also, like, the ideas conceptual, you know, like, to say, to, you know,

like, what we say in another response, about, he's, it's equivalent to to protect the French. He's not he says,

well, the PQ, it's good for protect the French, the Libero, it's good for si,

I'm, I'm not, no, no, in the fact, he would have going to the next

the election, he says, okay, it's okay, it's good for the French, but it's

good for the economy, but it's not correct for the French and the immigration. And I'm for the economy

and the nationalism and it's, it's more he persists to believe he will to present. I don't know if he's present to you for

for the economy, he's, well, he's what he pretender it's just... I think also that the question of the lack of

respect, or we could even say, it's eman in party of the media, you know, I have the impression that,

for example, the posture of the media, and you know, we can consider the parties political like the

organes, sometimes when they're going to talk, they're, they're in a posture of vulgarization

or or we're they're they're not only communicate these information but learn something to

when you're if you're in other spaces mediatic, by example, on the internet, on the

comments, on the forums, on the page Facebook, on Reddit, there's there's a dynamic that

is more horizontal where we have not the impression that that person is there

to learn to learn to someone, but it's not only only to exchange

of the connections to create a form of intelligence commune, but also this idea of

to think together. And I'm that I'd like I'm like, you know, I think that's

a piece of one of the vision, it's to think to have a posture authoritarian where we're

on the people and we have done some information. But it's sure that there's there's a

pre, a posture of vulgarization that we do you're like, like, okay,

decode a phenomenon web, okay, you have perhaps not seen No, no, no. But that's just the point

to deport. Even, me, on YouTube, you know, it's like, okay, explication sumer of what's what he's going to be able to be, but not too deep in mode, it's a con, uh, school, you know, it's not in mode, we're at, we're at, we're at least go, we're talking more profoundly. And I think

that, yeah, the media are all the time in-theid, this space of auditeer, who has never nothing seen, that, that's never anything viewed, that's no notion history. And I'm for that I'm detourne a bit of these medial because I have the impression

that we consider not my intelligence when I'm the three examples that you don't on the arcact there's what you know with the fiasco

that click that's like not not quite as it's not just Francoe lego he said that he said that he said he

didn't even that existe it's that click it's that he said to that the commission gallant I think the

people who don't know just said I don't know that it didn't even that it didn't even that it existed just to try to

that launch and that there is there's fill in a sack. Poor I don't know what it's like abeyrant, you know, there's a

there's a crazy. I'm the first question that I'd ask you know when he's going to be at the rentry

parliamenter, and I'm not quite quite there's not quite there's a article that's the headline Francoe legoe

didn't know that's the question, you know, that's really the partial of Chantalon that he'll have made out of

the cartable for the annoncing is, is is I think I'm going to have a car that's all the car that's all right

politicize, and it's one of the problems. And I think that, you know, you know a problem of mobility, is there a problem of mobility, is there a problem of mobility, is there a problem of security economic, whatever that means? Is it going to be used to a new link?

You can't put it to compare to Morale, like you said in the message. Just sort of that from the carcans'clock political and just just to do the affair. Well, the studies

have been made done? Yeah, but they're contradise, and there there are people who say that there's a point, there's a link with transport in common.

And then I'm like, to make a link and why there are not the two Enway?

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