café snake - Miss Piggy à OD laïcité

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

Mounir parle de la place du religieux dans OD et Daphné parle du retour de la femme ingouvernable, de Miss Piggy à Lily Allen. Plus : les bols à slop, l’emmerdification de TeenVogue, les marché...s prédictifs Polymarket et Kalshi signent une entente avec Google, l’entrevue GQ de Sydney Sweeney, la rivalité entre Shapiro et Fuentes + recommandation culturelleNotre Patreon: patreon.com/cafesnakeDIgi Mix: Sarah Hébert à LCN : https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/videos/6384816385112Ben Shapiro takedown Nick Fuentes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaRJlL5mOF8Sur les bols de slopGood Work sur YouTube, why are we eating slop?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsp2bC0Db8Sydney Sweeney GQ:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TwhvC_iPCcA Slop Bowl Is a Totally Valid Way to Feed Yourself In 2025, GQ, Emily Laurencehttps://archive.is/M496N#selection-667.0-667.15Sur TeenVogueWhy the Teen Vogue closure is a big deal in this political climate,  CBC, https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/teen-vogue-closure-politics-9.6971202Le retour de la femme ingouvernable : de Miss Piggy à Lily AllenL’album West End Girl, Lily Allen, https://open.spotify.com/intl-fr/album/4Dn3Z14YfT2gQVDgLmWUVn?siBpZu9qrSUysLmRORKusAMiss Piggy's Feminism: Redefining Human Relationships through Martial Arts Samantha Brennan, University of Western Ontario, https://atrium.lib.uoguelph.ca/server/api/core/bitstreams/a7268ae9-9e10-47ad-82b8-8a0aefd8d8a7/contentBitchologie : Lily Allen pour nous sauver de l’hétérofatalism, Vanessa Destiné, Urbania, https://urbania.ca/article/lily-allen-pour-nous-sauver-de-lheterofatalismeInside David Harbour & Lily Allen's Brooklyn Townhouse; Open Door, Architectural Digest, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEXXe9Ef_R8Is Having a Boyfriend Embarrassing Now?, Chanté Joseph, Vogue, https://www.vogue.com/article/is-having-a-boyfriend-embarrassing-nowRecommandation culturelleCARL & NOUS : un essai, MAShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJNC-Z3RaeM

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning Yo, it's my name I'm gonna lookie just I'm gonna say, you know, do you, what's gonna say to have Hello, man, it's Daphne Oh, but I'm obliged, I read a film of one hour on an or something
Starting point is 00:00:14 And then, I was just like, I don't this film, that. It's Cafe Snake. Good morning, Good morning Good morning Today, it's Cafe Snake, episode 67. It's an episode
Starting point is 00:00:33 for all the world on all the platforms. I just you'll remind that one episode on two is available only on complete on our Patreon, the Patreon.com
Starting point is 00:00:41 baroblac Cafe Snake. So, you're talking about today, Daphne. I'm going to talk of the return of the womanable to Miss Piggy
Starting point is 00:00:48 to Lily Ailin. And you, my name? I'm going to make an space of O'Die K but also at the lanty
Starting point is 00:00:55 the choice editorial of the production of Occupation Dub by as a part of practice
Starting point is 00:00:59 religious of candidates. And, and more tardy, the DG News. Tudu-Due. Surviv
Starting point is 00:01:09 this depression seasonaire. We've thought of to talk mental with the artist and author,
Starting point is 00:01:16 Sarah Ebert, the depression seasonia, you know that, you know, you also? In fact,
Starting point is 00:01:21 I'm old. It's not for you, you to back it up and up, yeah, to put your arms on front, me. My own sort of subject that's usually in my cord. So I'm trying this morning in the Journal of Montreal that the STM not presented to negotiations from April
Starting point is 00:01:37 24. He is open he's openly propit and he has reprieve in his time a slogan, the slonguang, world, to make the
Starting point is 00:01:54 war to Jewish all the world and when we do you demand, he says the problem is the occupation of Israel. Is that that
Starting point is 00:02:01 you know what you do you mean to say? The fact that would say, to say, to do you do that? How do you
Starting point is 00:02:07 how do you? I want to do you want to do you I'm going to correct information, before to respond to your question. But mondialize
Starting point is 00:02:13 another. He has not using this slogan. That's a second contra information. Si, see, he has
Starting point is 00:02:18 used the he has not used to not. He has not We had used, we asked the question to know if it's the shocked
Starting point is 00:02:24 that the young people he said, he said, I'm not there to make the police of the word. And you're
Starting point is 00:02:27 traduise that by the fact that he had used this slogan. He has repried to you
Starting point is 00:02:31 know, but I'm saying, but I'm here, but I think you're here, and not the question, you
Starting point is 00:02:38 need disinformed. Now, in the name is Mamdani M-A-M-D-A-N-A-N-A-N-A-N-A- The name is Mom-D-D-N-N-Y. Okay,
Starting point is 00:02:48 so we We'll commence with these news in tech. So Google has announced the 6 November a partneria with the
Starting point is 00:02:55 market with the market and talk about the platforms on which we can parietes on the issue of events,
Starting point is 00:03:03 for example, the election, or also all of things, even in the pop culture, we could paria by example,
Starting point is 00:03:09 on the duration between Justin Trudeau and Katty Perry. Google has said that he will integrate
Starting point is 00:03:14 the data the two platforms to these results of research for the moment on Google Finance, but there are some media that have said that it will be integrated a little part of our research Google. It's mysterious. We don't know how it's
Starting point is 00:03:26 deployed. Exactly. Polymarket and Calchie is position not necessarily as one of the platforms of gambling, even if it's on it, but more more than the platform of the money that would make sure to take the pout of the sentiment general by rapport to certain
Starting point is 00:03:40 eventuality. Now, I'll give an example because I've had on Polymarket tantal, but when we open the page principal. One of the market prediction is when will the government shut down and? There, there were
Starting point is 00:03:51 several paris. And when I regarded, 87% of the people who had had bought for between the 12 and the 15 November.
Starting point is 00:04:02 It's like seven weeks. It's what they say seven weeks. Well, in that's the poup of the sentiment in general.
Starting point is 00:04:08 But it can also glissed rapidly to make the predictions of the eventualities as they're with these
Starting point is 00:04:13 markets, you it's like if it's like if all were matter to speculate. By example, I'll give an other example of a market predictive that appeared
Starting point is 00:04:20 directly on the page principal. We asked, how many of time is that the President Trump would have serried the hand
Starting point is 00:04:28 of Ahmed al-Chara who is the president Syrian and thirium. So, today, we're on the end of the 10thobb
Starting point is 00:04:35 they are supposed to be able to be able to see, so how many times so they're there's the choice so, there's
Starting point is 00:04:42 more of two seconds, between two and six seconds, no second, and there, the people are going pariet that's interesting also, we've covered Polimarket at the suite
Starting point is 00:04:51 of the last election American, the year this week, there was the election at the mayor in New York, and Polimarket has made a publication
Starting point is 00:04:58 on all these resources, one minute before the Bureau of Vote Firm, and they had announced directly the
Starting point is 00:05:03 victory of Mambanier in New York, so I thought that it was like a changement of posture of Poly Market before,
Starting point is 00:05:08 he posted their their statistics, what's what the people did or Polymarket. And then they have, like, pretended to be able to announce something that's even not even even not encore past. Well, it's
Starting point is 00:05:18 that's what you're interesting, is that you're positioning like these platforms of gambling or or casino, it's really like these media, in fact. They're going to decide these subjects of actuality to cover, and they're
Starting point is 00:05:27 and they're going to act like the media with the grand titles on the... That's it's written Mandate, Wins. And it's like, the bureau of vote it had been
Starting point is 00:05:35 still, the last market of prediction which was the time the time of the serrage of between Trump and Ahmed Al-Shara, imagine if, for example, you'd go over Google,
Starting point is 00:05:47 and you'd tap Trump, rencontre, president, Siri. And then, all of a sudden, you had several articles that were out of, so there were
Starting point is 00:05:54 some internet referencered, but you have also, I don't, I'm at the march, at the market predictive
Starting point is 00:06:01 that are linked to this encounter that, not about, this espest of history to parrier
Starting point is 00:06:06 on the time of the point of the time of the point of the two characters. Obviously, we talk
Starting point is 00:06:11 often of these platforms like an alternative also, not just to media, but to sendage. So, something that we make to
Starting point is 00:06:18 take the poop of what the people, and we're also of the crowd, so gisgesse collective. The point that really, like,
Starting point is 00:06:25 I've seen in the media of the right, the market predictive, we can be more more to their confidence
Starting point is 00:06:30 because the people make the people are ready to investire financially in their prediction, it would give
Starting point is 00:06:36 more of more than a soundage. Yeah, But Max Reed, a person that we like Cited at Cafe Snake, who had a paper, I think, who'd written
Starting point is 00:06:44 this week, where the same past, who was about this deal between Google. I don't know if I did it
Starting point is 00:06:49 well, I don't say, I mean, Google. Google. Google. Google. And he said, in the phone,
Starting point is 00:06:54 the people who want, certainly bett at date on Polly Market and Calchie, it's kind of a portrait
Starting point is 00:07:00 demographed, you know, majoritarment, these men, and, especially right-leaning, so he seems to be
Starting point is 00:07:06 to pass more to the right. And also the I imagine that the majority should be, like, in the bottom of 40 years. Well,
Starting point is 00:07:11 especially for for Poli Market, it's directly with the crypto that you transition. So, so that's the money in the
Starting point is 00:07:17 crypto. And it's the markets also that are very much manipulable, it's a that someone
Starting point is 00:07:22 would have money could actually actually to influence the predictions. And the two platforms,
Starting point is 00:07:28 that's, I've read today, in fact, they entertain these links with the Party
Starting point is 00:07:32 Republican, because Trump Jr., it's an advisor so a conseil paid for the platform Kalshi. And he is not only also a concierge for Polymarket, it's also an investiceror of Polymarket. Brief, it's just a parenthesis of genius,
Starting point is 00:07:48 but it participates at the casinoification of our lives as I had, in the case, the term that I had employed a few weeks, already. All right, to predile, to speculate, to speculate, and now, now, if we've made some research, Google, perhaps that in a future rapproached, we're going to be more plunged
Starting point is 00:08:07 in this reality and even Google will know we'll know it's a time that we're going to get to the weather,
Starting point is 00:08:13 we could literally to begin to parietes on the time that will be going to rest to the United,
Starting point is 00:08:19 my DJ News concerned the fissure in the black American, I've called this
Starting point is 00:08:24 division of the right American update because for the people who who were
Starting point is 00:08:28 I've done a segment complete on Nick Fuentes which is this figure that comes
Starting point is 00:08:33 in prominence in the right American. Just also, corrugged an error that I had said in the episode that had 25 years, no, he had 27 years, Nick Fuentes. There, it's really, it's the subject the most important of the right of the American, the same
Starting point is 00:08:45 last year. Gross confrontation at the summit, so for just to make a little resume, Nick Fuentes, is a podcaster, commentator political American, of right, of extreme rights, who's identified himself as a white nationalist. A lot of his commentary or of his humor is really a recuperation
Starting point is 00:09:01 of the language of Fortune the middle of the years. These fans who are called the Groypers are still a force in presence on Twitter particularly
Starting point is 00:09:09 but also on Instagram that I see a a gross recruit of essence of the content of Nick Fuentes. And there,
Starting point is 00:09:15 as I've talked about the last time, it's that's been more than a month now,
Starting point is 00:09:19 Nick Fointeze has made an immense tour mediatique of platform that he had long had never wanted
Starting point is 00:09:24 to be to Patrick Bette David, entrepreneur America with an immense podcast because Trump was at all over the last election,
Starting point is 00:09:32 he is all to go to Red Scare podcast, he is all going to Dave Smith Show, and the more recently, he is to go to encounter Tucker Carlson for a long interview. Tucker Carlson, who was an enemy of Nick Fuentes
Starting point is 00:09:43 for long time, because Nick Fuentes is all the time is inscralled in opposition to the right mainstream American, to party republican in fact in its own
Starting point is 00:09:51 these more great enemies that he'd were all overcame it was Charlie Kirk like he was really Charlie Kirk like this
Starting point is 00:09:59 this kind of rampart that he'd to capture the zeitguise to get up the popularity to the young and then
Starting point is 00:10:04 it's quite long time, but certainly the young devene de more and more fan of Nick Fuentes
Starting point is 00:10:09 compared to Charlie Kirk. For him he considered that Charlie Kirk was not quite quite he considered
Starting point is 00:10:14 that Charlie Kirk was at the sole of the establishment republican who he defended he defended these positions
Starting point is 00:10:21 geopolitical or a political or a political exterior that were not of accord,
Starting point is 00:10:24 especially by rapport to the States of Israel, and this kind of an establishment
Starting point is 00:10:29 republican has all the whole lot of all over to do you know, I'd say also the establishment democrat. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:10:36 it's that, but he doesn't, he's attack really frontalement to republican or what's what we, what's called
Starting point is 00:10:43 in these circles, to neo-cons or neo-conservators. When we talk to new-O-Kahn, we've often often have reference
Starting point is 00:10:50 to their posture on the politics exterior of the States United. And it's that the support of Israel, the financement
Starting point is 00:10:54 of Israel, and the influence of lobby Israeli as like APAC, the lobby, it's like, the language
Starting point is 00:11:01 is important, because it's Epac is a lobby American, of American, who want that the
Starting point is 00:11:07 United has a very good relationship with Israel, it's not a lobby Israeli, properly
Starting point is 00:11:11 so, so so that Nick Fontez, he's all at Tokyo Konsunth, and it's really,
Starting point is 00:11:15 Nick Fonthes, I've heard many many many years, and it's long these changes, and,
Starting point is 00:11:19 view that the card of the genese, that's a young, in the full he recounts his life, that he equate
Starting point is 00:11:26 to the whole of his generation. He said, I'm, I see the product of Trump.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I was 18 18 years, in 2016, I was created intellectually and ideologically under the air Trump
Starting point is 00:11:40 and many people who me see, me look, so he talk a little in their
Starting point is 00:11:44 name. He's often, there's this kind of when he He talked to him, and when he he talks of
Starting point is 00:11:49 his generation of youngs, desaffected, who have supported Trump in 2016. He recount all the time his life,
Starting point is 00:11:56 and on the way to talk to talk to the left, all the long, he talks to at which point his opposition
Starting point is 00:12:02 or not his support not is being effective to Israel has made in sort that all the
Starting point is 00:12:08 time had all been put to the right that Ben Shapiro has tried to be
Starting point is 00:12:12 to canceling when he had 18 years, in the quote eight-twee when he
Starting point is 00:12:15 had even even this recit that of him that's all the time had all the time
Starting point is 00:12:47 He said that he had even in a debate with a TikTokur Democrat that he preferred that Adolf Hitler was president on the way of
Starting point is 00:12:56 he said he said he said too plenty of he said all right now your wife or Hitler Hitler of course
Starting point is 00:13:06 of course I don't have a wife but if I did she would not be fit to run the country I could tell you that much she can run the kitchen
Starting point is 00:13:14 she can run she can't run the long mower, I'll put it that way. And I think anyone would... One's in the chat if you'd rather Hitler over your wife, twos if you prefer your wife.
Starting point is 00:13:25 We'll let the chat. We'll let the fucking numbers do the talking about. He troll. He said the N-word. He'll come up with a new acronym, a little like MAGA for these fans. It's Wagnath, who says, white-ass
Starting point is 00:13:43 N-word going hard as fuck. He's all the time the N-word. There's Even, you know, in the comments of IG Reels, who have plenty of Afro-American, who are just in mode cynic, and ironic, like, yeah, it's actually a real N-word. Like, the world,
Starting point is 00:13:55 he embarks really in this affair that, I think it's really, it's really, it's he's the most the front of Overtet in the United, like, the fact
Starting point is 00:14:03 that he said the N-Ward in its own of the first symbolic to, let's, let's, 15, 20, 30, the last year's years of, but he's the more
Starting point is 00:14:10 normalized also. But, yeah, Ben Shapiro, out of all people, who is the founder of Daily Wire, who is a commentator political who's really
Starting point is 00:14:19 made to know it in 2014, 15, 16, he, with other the intellectual dark web, who, who have made millions of views
Starting point is 00:14:29 on going to do on repertion, who have created these shows, who have made in place, in fact, the ecosystem
Starting point is 00:14:34 in which we're at the government, in the government what she has to do you get in this ecosystem media that that
Starting point is 00:14:40 the right has kind of created, they, they had a there was a with Jordan Peterson, with Ben Shapiro, with Stephen Crowder. And then, Ben Shapiro has released a video of 40 minutes this
Starting point is 00:14:50 week, or is it a take-down piece of Nick Fuentes? Hey, folks, I want to do something different on today's show. We're going to cover one topic in-depth. That topic is, I think, the most important thing happening in the country. It was a hot topic last week, but I wanted to take some time to really gather my thoughts and speak on it in coherent fashion, holistic fashion. That topic is the fragmentation of the political. right. That fragmentation is being caused purposefully by a splinter faction of people
Starting point is 00:15:18 led by a young man named Nick Fuentes. They call themselves the Groypers. They are white supremacists, hate women, Jews, Hindus, many types of Christians, ground people of a wide variety of backgrounds, blacks, America's foreign policy, and America's constitution. They admire Hitler and Stalin. And that splinter faction is now being facilitated and normalized within the mainstream Republican Party. The main agents in that normalization is Tucker Carlson, who is is an intellectual coward, a dishonest interlocutor, and a terrible friend. He's sort of a take-down piece, he comes the first minute.
Starting point is 00:15:50 He's made the case on why Nick Fuentes is misogine. After, he does the case on why Nick Fuentes is anti-Semit. And he said, in the fond of, he's his most great preoccupation, it's the morselement of the right American. In fact, for him, he saw pretty that like a kind of coup organized to remove the power to the right, to make in order that the coalition
Starting point is 00:16:09 that Trump has reunited so in-fightings and that all that profit to the left in the front. Really,
Starting point is 00:16:16 it's like fascinating to observe because the internet in this moment ridiculise Ben Shapiro
Starting point is 00:16:22 it's like the establishment they're they're doing the establishment and it's cool because Ben Shapiro
Starting point is 00:16:28 has all always had the posture of facts don't care about your feelings and then
Starting point is 00:16:32 he's made a video to say that Nick Fuentes is misogine and it's sure, it's clear
Starting point is 00:16:37 that we use We're always, we instrumentalise the misogyny to all the sauce. It's like it's like it has been to talk about to
Starting point is 00:16:43 protect the women with his chart. I'm just the met, I don't want because it's a DG News.
Starting point is 00:16:49 It was a great fess-a-ion of the life political American. And we do all the time at Cafe Sink, but it's just
Starting point is 00:16:54 there's just no, no point in Quebec, I guess. And we talk all the time of Trump, Trump,
Starting point is 00:16:59 but we're in the world, what's what he do you do what he's rarely about the current
Starting point is 00:17:04 ideological that is in the fond of all that. Yeah. And is there a figure Quebec-wise that we could approach to
Starting point is 00:17:10 the cell of Nick Fuentes? It's a young who ported certain ideas that resemble a nationalism
Starting point is 00:17:16 identitar. There are these nationalists conservator in Quebec, but not with the angle anti-Israel.
Starting point is 00:17:23 It's really that the core of the identity of Nick Fuentes, is to be in opposition to Israel,
Starting point is 00:17:29 to all the all the time to talk to all all time cited these overs that who
Starting point is 00:17:33 have really remied in question like the supposed control of Israel not only the life political American, the
Starting point is 00:17:40 life cultural American. You know, we're a class of young intellectual conservator. I literally
Starting point is 00:17:46 I've got encountered Etienne Alexander Boregore but you Yeah, there's 24 yeah,
Starting point is 00:17:51 24 years, there's Remy Villeilleux who are a little like the mattsubocote Richard
Starting point is 00:17:57 Martino Sophie de Roche they found Francoe Leggo Boregore he has been the redactor the redactors of
Starting point is 00:18:03 the on so the go, but even I guess it's pretty much it's real, because before the mission, I was talking to Nick Fuentes with with him. Okay, I wanted
Starting point is 00:18:11 to do a parenthesis gastronomic, because it's a few weeks that I think I think of my notes, but I don't know how it's
Starting point is 00:18:19 profited in a cafe Snick, so I've decided to do you knowze. It's a comment on the influence of the technology and
Starting point is 00:18:25 the economy on our activities on popularity of what some American people call these slop bowl, or what we could call in Quebec,
Starting point is 00:18:35 these bowls of slop. Something that I think that, I mean, Mounier, we appreciate particularly The bowls, the pulle roche? Yes, that's that's a good
Starting point is 00:18:44 example of bowl of slop. Not necessarily something that's pleasant to look at visuallyly. It's a man that makes a variety of ingredients
Starting point is 00:18:54 that we chose some options on a menu. It has a dimension personalizable is served in a bowl, so it's a form of fast food.
Starting point is 00:19:00 And here, They're some of, they're fans of, they're so, their tagline, it's these bellows of poulets-griere, personalisable. And it's apparee in which year, you know? Two, a couple of years? We've seen, we're seeing, we're seeing, a series televised, in any of course, on YouTube, I don't know, it's Moorneux, produced by the family Abateello this week.
Starting point is 00:19:21 They found the flip that Olivier Primot has made, to stop the content vertical, core. But, they're on more, but they're more, and they produce these vlogs with a major camera and, like, mounte. So, so, so it's documented the rachat of the franchise, Lefriere, and a little like if it was
Starting point is 00:19:36 a mission impossible, there was a name of code for this rachat that, that's called the Project Soleil. I don't know I, I thought it completely poor, personally. In this mission, they had produced them even, he
Starting point is 00:19:47 had made mirroate that he would have actually, a lot gross emblem Quebecoise. And then, all right, I've been to Poole-Rooge.
Starting point is 00:19:54 There's no chance that's ached Poolein. I'm afraid. And I thought also to that because we've got actually we've gotted the bowl recently for
Starting point is 00:20:01 when we've done when we've actually the fact that I wanted the fact that I wanted to buy I'm trying to insisting and
Starting point is 00:20:09 finally we're to get to get to make like 24 hours on 24 in the ball it's just just so much
Starting point is 00:20:15 a long of the suit of the bonnard and I think and I think there's something in the
Starting point is 00:20:21 bowl that function particularly well with our style of life and it's even a sentiment that I
Starting point is 00:20:26 Retroved, this week, in a text of one of my infoulette that I read a lot of Kyle
Starting point is 00:20:31 Raymond Fittspatrick who talked to this desuites finally, the predominance of the bowl. I can't
Starting point is 00:20:38 think that. I'm sure. So, I'm like, I'm going to talk that. I don't how I'm
Starting point is 00:20:42 going to there's a discour kind of on the Slop Bowle in in the United
Starting point is 00:20:46 that I'm not necessarily too tapped in there there's an article that in January of this
Starting point is 00:20:53 year, who mentioned the term so I It's not if it's a date of can, but it's... And now, even Timurton, you have a Slob bowl. My friend had been like, there's a...
Starting point is 00:21:02 There's no chance I'd ever be able to... Well, why not? So, the title of the article, it's a Slop Bowl is a totally valid way to feed yourself in 2025. So, it's kind of colled to all guys. And I had even regarded also a video of Good Work,
Starting point is 00:21:16 a chain YouTube that I see, who posed the question, why are we eating slop? So, yeah two months, at pretty. And I thought the metaphor interesting, because I, in my head, when I hear Slope, I I thought just at
Starting point is 00:21:29 the term AI Slop, so when we talk of what is produced by the I. You know, what's what I'm saying, when I'm on the Slop, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:21:38 that's a big brother. Oh, yeah? There's one of the consequences that's like when you're like, you know, you have to eat the slub
Starting point is 00:21:44 for a month. And it's like the purreregris. But he appell that literally of the Slop? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Well, okay. And I imagine it's not Big Brother, liberty that has invented this, it does do have been part of the license. It should, I'm sure if you're doing a... Well, it's so, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:00 if you're, you know, when you're talking to Pooley-Rooge, it's really a good example, but I have an impression that in the United the market of the Slop is more developed.
Starting point is 00:22:07 You know, Chipotle, sweet, greens, just salad, you know, there's really many many of the chines of the bowl asslop,
Starting point is 00:22:13 finally, it's really a trick that's much during a lunch break when you, you, you're in a logic of a work, even corpo,
Starting point is 00:22:21 you don't have a a lot of time. The idea of the bowl, it's something that's a thing that if you want to do with, like, by example, you can use your bowl as slop, before your screen, or even in scrolling, you know, you're not need to make...
Starting point is 00:22:36 Detainipulation. Yeah, exactly. You're not... D'avitude, even with a bowl of Poulet-Rooge, you don't use not necessarily your cout. There's no viand to cut. You've really just need of an ustancil, and it's all. So, so, I've
Starting point is 00:22:49 It's written that the bowl is a receptacle that's a favorize the multitasking. So it's like if it would be constantly in trying to work, so, to augment our productivity, or then, perhaps, to scroller on TikTok just for to be able to enjoy, but it's supposed
Starting point is 00:23:04 also that the moment of the meal is not necessarily social. It's a moment where we're consuming the divertisman, but in our bugle, algorithmic. But I think, I'm not sure you're on your notes, but, like,
Starting point is 00:23:16 the rapport to, like, the reconstruction of the a meal in, like, sort, of the ingredients that you add to do you about how we calculate all, okay,
Starting point is 00:23:23 the proteins, the legumes, the same, they're all the they make sure of that they seem that they can't do what
Starting point is 00:23:29 they're doing what? Yeah, you have more control on what what you want to do you mean, it's personalizable.
Starting point is 00:23:37 But you know the ingredients, I think it's the thing, it's the part, is what I mean,
Starting point is 00:23:40 is what I do you want to do the kinoa, is what I want to do need, now I'm
Starting point is 00:23:43 now I'm there perhaps there also in this idea to calculate the proteins, calculate the calories. And then it's also, it's just a fast food,
Starting point is 00:23:51 but it's not necessarily considered as negative for the health. It's a part of the category fast casual or desk lunch. Really, it's percuss like, I think it's
Starting point is 00:24:03 that's inscribed in a gray or air. And it's in this idea also the hustle, we're always after maximized
Starting point is 00:24:09 our time, but maximise all the facets of our lives. So, for example, we want well, we can be good,
Starting point is 00:24:16 control how we eat, et cetera, it's a permit that. But a other thing that makes it can't the introduction
Starting point is 00:24:23 of the robotic in the kitchen. This kind of bowl there, there's not necessarily of assemblage
Starting point is 00:24:28 very complicated, it's a bowl, and it's a thing that's something that something that's used
Starting point is 00:24:34 just about a article on the chain of restaurant Sweet Greens in the States which is,
Starting point is 00:24:39 she has a chain of bowl a slop, but base of salad, which has the concept
Starting point is 00:24:44 of Infinite Kitchen So cuisine infinite in one of these locations. The idea is that allotized, the A to Z, the composition, the assemblage of the bowl. And then, once that you're all in fact, you have to do, for example, a person, a human who will, for example,
Starting point is 00:25:03 to be to your transaction financial. I think that's a gastronomy that's essentially to presently a process of rationalization. We're auto-automatization. We save time, we save the money. There's a rationalization. only in the preparation, in the assemblage of the plate, but also in its consumption. Because in the phone, there's not a cuisine, really.
Starting point is 00:25:22 It's just, like you said, the assemblage. Exactly. That's not only in the fabrication of the plate, but also when we consume, we're in a processus, we're even of rationalization. Because we're saving the time. We want to do multitask. It's that, my parenthesis, bowl to slop, bowl to slop, it's to run to finally, of the slopification of our
Starting point is 00:25:43 lives, and that's logic that are enchased to the technology, they're also enchased in our lives, and in these activities that are concrete. It's really because my
Starting point is 00:25:54 soul, she's often they so fond the pull-rude but at the house. Yeah, yeah, well, like, we, we're going
Starting point is 00:25:59 in the bowl. Yeah. Okay, so, my project, my project, my project, I've called it Swinney Report.
Starting point is 00:26:07 For the people who have not or they don't know, Sidney and the star of a new film who's called Christy, whom the
Starting point is 00:26:14 realizer is David Michaud. It's Michaud, but they make Oaxon-Augue D, but it's a Mischot, it's a oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:21 And, yeah, I've heard say that it's a flop on Box Office. Exactly, it's so. Now, it's,
Starting point is 00:26:26 because we know how we can't know that, but if we had enrageted y'er or we'd have been
Starting point is 00:26:30 not yet, we're not yet, it's the first end of the film, what's what what's the appearance of a film,
Starting point is 00:26:36 It's a tournip for promotion. So, Sydney-Sweeney, she has been a bit everywhere in the media in the last month, and an interview at GQ, that you have
Starting point is 00:26:44 maybe putte pasted these screenshots or commentary on the interview. She has really been a success retenticenticent
Starting point is 00:26:51 in the right American. She was called to talk to the campaign publicistair that she had
Starting point is 00:26:56 with American Eagle, which was the tagline, in the Sunnis as Great jeans,
Starting point is 00:27:02 but we don't if we're talking, But I think that the ambiguity It's at the core of the publicity Exactly, it's that And there's a lot There are people who are
Starting point is 00:27:12 Like, no, we're talking to say, She's just in cause of her Poatrine, of her eyes, is just Belle, we just say that's just She's all right
Starting point is 00:27:19 with a superiority genetic or of supremacy Blanche. It's an history of eugenism. She has never made of comment
Starting point is 00:27:26 there on and the interviewer has tried several times to her to make her to make her this critic
Starting point is 00:27:31 or supremacis or supremacis Blanche, what she she wants? She contours she contourses, she she's trying to have
Starting point is 00:27:37 her take, she puts the question several times and finally she she says, the people, they say, that a person
Starting point is 00:27:43 black should not make a question of I'd ever say, I'd just give to give the opportunity to say,
Starting point is 00:27:49 what you think, she'd say, she'd not, she'd say, she'd be, clarify,
Starting point is 00:27:54 the criticism of the content, which was basically that maybe specifically in this political climate, like,
Starting point is 00:28:02 white people shouldn't joke about genetic superior, Like, that was kind of like the criticism, broadly speaking, and since you are talking about this, I just wanted to give you an opportunity to talk about that specifically. I think that when I have an issue that I want to speak about, people will hear. She has like a kind of posture completely disengaged.
Starting point is 00:28:25 She has a visage, she looks at his eyes, and she said, when I will have a subject that I want to bring, the people will be able to listen. Like, when there's a subject I'll want to bring to the attention of the people, the people will be able to
Starting point is 00:28:38 and they'll let's a silence after, they're looking. And you have the visage of the interviewer's that's like
Starting point is 00:28:41 a sort of a minute, but fake, like, oh, yeah, it's that your response, but it's
Starting point is 00:28:48 a question, and I'm supposed to play like if you're a same, I'm supposed to have done
Starting point is 00:28:54 to do analysis based on these two screenshots there. There's the aspect
Starting point is 00:28:58 generational, we're the millennial smirk versus the Genese stare, you know, it's that a bit, me, that I saw a bit, I see,
Starting point is 00:29:07 I know if she's Niswini and Jeansy, real shit, but, like, I think that's my age. So, I'm like, I'm gonna be the Millennial Smirk?
Starting point is 00:29:13 Well, I don't know, but I think the Millennial Smirk is a thing, the BuzzFeed era, like, just like, the,
Starting point is 00:29:20 the millennial were quirky, you know? I just know, I don't know, just, I don't know how far, okay.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Oh, but I'll say, the millennial, you, you know, the word Wimsey, it's, it's again the generation quirky, whimsy
Starting point is 00:29:30 just like Harry Potter whatever, you know it's like, it's the millennial I like the penguins It's good, so And then Sineasweeney It's a campaign, you think it's
Starting point is 00:29:42 well, it's been But, there's The show the box office Thursday today And it's a flop The film over In more 2,000 in the States
Starting point is 00:29:50 have recolte I think that A little more than a million of Dollars It's really Even if it's It's a cinema
Starting point is 00:29:55 of author, Oscar Bate film who has just a sort of theater at a grand scale to be qualified to score.
Starting point is 00:30:02 It's like ridiculous if you think of to star power of Sydney Swinney but the people start
Starting point is 00:30:07 to break down because it would be a personality so popular but that the people don't engage
Starting point is 00:30:12 not with the film and that I think interesting because I thought it was that
Starting point is 00:30:15 recouped my segment on the second on the appor cultural and artistic
Starting point is 00:30:20 of music maga is that if Sydney Suini devian a icon
Starting point is 00:30:23 of the movement maga the her femme fatale, the girl that's beautiful, that we're lost all over, and then, in plus, is capable of, like, remitting her
Starting point is 00:30:33 place on a millennial GQ reporter, like, oh, my God, it's the icon, but when she's saw a film, and then I read, the film, it's, the film retrace the ascension of the boxeer American, Christy Martin, of his debut modest in Virginia
Starting point is 00:30:48 Occidental, to her renomber international, and explore the relation toxic with her trainer slash hepoo, devenu assassin. It's a film that recoup
Starting point is 00:30:58 a lot of thematic about the struggle financial, of the violence conjugal. You know,
Starting point is 00:31:04 it's a film on a bit of a beginning of poverty, and be able to transcend
Starting point is 00:31:10 that, but at that live plenty of adversity of the diversity
Starting point is 00:31:14 proper to be to be a fact of the fucking boss
Starting point is 00:31:19 the movement maga will not go to this if you want to
Starting point is 00:31:22 a How surprising that the insol goonoo They won't engage with the Lord She has cultivated this fan base of people who have For what she has made Other than what she represents It's that I think
Starting point is 00:31:33 Fockeye interesting Yeah Well, me personally To come to her On her interview with GQ I have the impression That nothing is left Tohazard
Starting point is 00:31:40 And that effectively She had due Think to say Atonant That we pose That question that And that's a line To come,
Starting point is 00:31:47 Simply. At the limit In my head It's even not She has crafted Her response That I mean It's really
Starting point is 00:31:53 these experts in Com who are said, well, if he's going to say this
Starting point is 00:31:57 you're doing that I'm sure I'm in but I'm not that's crafty. I think
Starting point is 00:32:03 he said just about never of that. I think the line was too
Starting point is 00:32:05 nonchalant It's just a nonchalance that me make think the
Starting point is 00:32:10 kind of the attitude of Donald Trump who is a player who is
Starting point is 00:32:15 a bit that he's that makes in scene it's a way to regain
Starting point is 00:32:20 the power in the conversation is to say, like, if I have something to say, I'll say, so it depends not of my interlocuteer.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I want to make another parenthesis Teen Vogue, because I've already talked in a cafe Snake, I don't know if there's some of the same magazine in line
Starting point is 00:32:37 that had a coverture to the United overtly progressist at its politics or of these articles in the magazines feminine, but also in the media atleur
Starting point is 00:32:47 because the media American is to right-tise, to more and more. And it's they're in Vogue
Starting point is 00:32:52 who had had made the interview with Vivian Wilson, the fie trans of Ilun Mosque
Starting point is 00:32:56 who had been very really a coverure super interesting of plenty of policy
Starting point is 00:33:01 and often when I when I did a research quite on some on the
Starting point is 00:33:05 subject on the talk about I'm and then recently we've learned
Starting point is 00:33:10 that Kond Kondas Kofx who has decided to repatriate TynVogue at
Starting point is 00:33:15 the interior of the ensing Vogue.com so phagocity, the magazine for adobe. And it's
Starting point is 00:33:23 done, obviously, place to a vacate of a licensee and all the people who were in the
Starting point is 00:33:29 section political, who had really the difference and who differentiated Thinvogue of other
Starting point is 00:33:35 publications, they've had been their job. So it's like if finally, Teen Vogue
Starting point is 00:33:41 Per'd his end-DN, per'd their color, what's that had the magazine social?
Starting point is 00:33:45 Yeah, their edge. Exactly. We're also, the expertise of all these journalists who have
Starting point is 00:33:52 you've seen, is it, is he on doing this? Yeah, yeah, we're doing, we're doing,
Starting point is 00:33:57 I think, I've heard especially on Blue Sky, because Blue Sky, contrary to Twitter, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:03 I think it's more progressist, and it's certainly these journalists that I'm so there there were
Starting point is 00:34:08 quite a lot of on my to see, I'm in it's just that Thinvogue was still
Starting point is 00:34:13 in post and continued his work. You know, do you think they'll cede to the pressure? Well, it's probably they don't know the choice. No, but I'd say, why Condenance, it's the fact of it? But Condonis, because Condenis, it's the amount. But in an imperative of market,
Starting point is 00:34:28 like, you want to have a... They're like... They're not de-droit. I know that they're not the right, but the capitalism has not to be the content of gauche. You know, like, Quebecor, there's a journal 24-Hare. He's out of the articles in New York. It's Quebecor, like, you're just, like,
Starting point is 00:34:43 to cover all the coasts of the market. Maybe they've been out of some questions they've received the call. I've got no idea.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Well, my segment is the second time maybe the last year or the last year maybe we're
Starting point is 00:34:58 at the end of the season but I wanted to talk about occupation double. For the
Starting point is 00:35:04 people who don't see the occupation double this year or who have not like
Starting point is 00:35:07 to listen to the episode of what we have talked, we we're
Starting point is 00:35:10 the season of O'D that the who is the most the most O'D Africa to South, but I would say
Starting point is 00:35:16 even O'D Bali, for you Monty, compared to maybe O'D Reyes, but the candidates are not presented in a fashion favorable, often. Dill debut, we
Starting point is 00:35:26 had not really the subject that had not covered, we see, we know, some people who a few, who has a lot of relations sexual,
Starting point is 00:35:35 it's a lady who has more of valor, a girl, a thing, in fact, what's he'd exactly, is that there would be more of prestige
Starting point is 00:35:41 accouched with a girl who has not had been a lot of partner sexual. We see some of the candidates who say that a woman when she's
Starting point is 00:35:49 making she's her way to make and she's Frankenstein. It's what he's said for more for in the occupation
Starting point is 00:35:55 double. Also, the dynamics are really jarring between the candidates like the storylines have been in the period where the
Starting point is 00:36:02 people were the time of the men, it's incredible with the leader far and charismatic and to the side of
Starting point is 00:36:09 the chican constant, the adversity, the bitchageage, click. It's really, it's been the recit that we've used all the season. And, I think personallyly that yeah, like, the Flaniddoverton is
Starting point is 00:36:21 more at the right, the audience are more tolerant, the audience are a memory more short, there's more of momentum algorithmic that's creating around to denunci, what's what, what's going to denounce, it's in a large event of commentaire
Starting point is 00:36:37 on Occupation Double, the people, review, if the people are offence, the people are not in the commenter, and we'll pass on the next appell. But I mean, I'm talking really of the season of 2012 where there had been the controversy
Starting point is 00:36:49 or the intimidation, there had kind of a momentum that had generated from the end of the season. And there's like if this season
Starting point is 00:36:57 there had just all the time there were just all the eventment that's in a dynamic more large. I personally
Starting point is 00:37:03 I think it because it does the chance to see certain performance and to say that meos
Starting point is 00:37:08 it was crazy. And this year, again I thought that he had to go, we're We were talking at the season, Daphne and me, who
Starting point is 00:37:14 had casted a character who had casted a person who was a pastor. Damien, who is influencer Christian on the social social, or is literally pastor? There's still,
Starting point is 00:37:24 quite a lot of, no? Before even, to return to Occupation Double, there had more than 80,000 subscribers on Instagram. In doing, just, the people, they go to the club, I, I like,
Starting point is 00:37:34 to go to the church. And there, I'm like, what's going to be, what's going to be many of them, they're trying to evangelize all the world, what's
Starting point is 00:37:40 what's going to with that. I was curious to see the treatment that Occupation Double All right, but I was curious also to see the reception the public to a personage who over-cli-cretian, because not only Christian, but Pastor, who
Starting point is 00:37:53 amends this idea of, like, evangelize or, like, of spread the good novel, you know, I'm like, how it will be inscribe in Occupation Double? Yeah, I had even predied that we'd, perhaps, I don't know, some, the power of divin or, like, that I'd say, can't
Starting point is 00:38:08 say these verses biblical, to talk a little of spirituality, you know, you know, and finally, and the result that had
Starting point is 00:38:14 had been in this year, is that all that's been cuted on the montage. And why I said
Starting point is 00:38:20 with certainty, because it would be that Damien had decided to go to Admian, it's the
Starting point is 00:38:25 candidate and to go back and to not talk to be and I think that it
Starting point is 00:38:30 had more parue that's what's what's what I think it's candidates
Starting point is 00:38:35 that Damian and his company but Annie, who is also Christian, who is practicante, who has who has growny in a family, summed-tote, practicant,
Starting point is 00:38:44 what I understand, of the testimonial of the people who know who know on the internet, who say, they frequent the same church. There are two events that came out of the last week, that you see clearly that the two candidates talk a lot of religion, not only only in confessional, but that's
Starting point is 00:39:00 not shown to public, and after to analyze it, but there was the Halloween, or is it the two sole candidates who didn't not deguised, and that, certain practicants cretis not at Halloween, because it's a fete parian. But it's never mentioned, why.
Starting point is 00:39:15 And there's been their voyage, this day the episode that we've seen here, where they were at Octoberfest, in Germany, and all this season occupation double, for the people who are not pursued, when the candidates go on voyage,
Starting point is 00:39:27 they arrive their night in voyage, and there all the time where is we put in scene, like demand of consent for partage a night in the same chamber. So, often, it's
Starting point is 00:39:36 like the female or the guy who's like is like, is that you want to be like,
Starting point is 00:39:40 and the same all the season all the world and it's not because there's all the time the rapprochement but often
Starting point is 00:39:45 the candidates are totally isolated the one of the other than the room that they're that they're
Starting point is 00:39:49 that they're in a long conversation that's they have been there's a rapprochement I think
Starting point is 00:39:55 compared to compared to the five years years, it's the season where there's the
Starting point is 00:39:58 there's the last that's the that's that's inscribed in opposition with like
Starting point is 00:40:03 the last years Dode where a French was like the most broad barrier to pass.
Starting point is 00:40:08 There's a lot of mention also of fluid corporal the syprin the women,
Starting point is 00:40:13 often, you talk of being mollier. Yeah, Julie Pierre like the chant lexical. But,
Starting point is 00:40:18 but just Julie Pierre. So, there had their voyage in Germany, and then
Starting point is 00:40:22 we're we're going to normally, we're we pose the question if you
Starting point is 00:40:26 want, is what you want, do you want to do you want to just to
Starting point is 00:40:29 a plant confessional of Annie who kind of But, well, we don't in the same room.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Or is like a little, like, it's the middle of a word, it's the middle he's really off-putting,
Starting point is 00:40:42 everyone in the comments, has made, like, on Twitter, on the way, it's weird, why he's explain to
Starting point is 00:40:47 anything, we've never in a context that we, we've never heard of two, I think
Starting point is 00:40:53 Damien has said one that one he said, one in his video in his video of
Starting point is 00:40:57 presentation, in his portrait. So, like, she did that a bit, like,
Starting point is 00:41:00 at the end of a phrase, obviously, we don't not in the same chained. And that's used as an tool by plenty
Starting point is 00:41:07 of supporters of in line for, well, you see these two like they seem not, there's no rapprochement,
Starting point is 00:41:12 he's touch not, when you compare to those other couple, there's a contrast of
Starting point is 00:41:17 between the two, he's fredge not, he's done these little beck, he's done these can,
Starting point is 00:41:21 it's like malaysant a little physically because there's a certain pressure to to have
Starting point is 00:41:26 to have a couple, and the other candidates judge, at what the other And then the other candidates, he's
Starting point is 00:41:32 French at a gorge deployed, he's called in the same room, like if there's like, I mean, I know, I mean, I see, it's like,
Starting point is 00:41:37 really... To perform a sexuality that's like guarant of the force of the coup? When I saw, when I don't know not
Starting point is 00:41:45 in the same room, I'm like, oh my God, she has a retic different in her head of what she thinks
Starting point is 00:41:50 that the public is on her. Because when she said, obviously, we're not not sure, it says,
Starting point is 00:41:56 that the public should understand because they don't know not ensemble, to be able to explain that I'm, yeah, I'm practicante, I, I'm not with someone, if we're not married, whatever, it's what,
Starting point is 00:42:06 she's what, she's a barrier that she has in their practice religious. But we've never been in contact with that, of any way. And I'm, in plus, now that you're so, come context, Damien and Annie, we see rarely be rarely as parted like one-on-one, in their discussion.
Starting point is 00:42:20 We've seen, we've got many, we've got a lot, or is they've made a joke, because the two partage of an heritage Hispanophon, Dominican, of like, oh, my my mother who said that, he said a bit
Starting point is 00:42:31 in Spanish. There we're okay, they're in a background similar and they're well, but often
Starting point is 00:42:37 we see their conversation. We see rarely have the discussion. I think why they have this montage
Starting point is 00:42:43 that in the season? Because we're at the end up. All the have had been very
Starting point is 00:42:47 screen time. They're they're really more than all they're really because the religion
Starting point is 00:42:51 that's because the religion, it's for they're not in the mission. Because O'D
Starting point is 00:42:56 had decided that they'll have no discussion that's what's interesting to analyze. It's what this choice
Starting point is 00:43:01 editorial of occupation double? The year where is the season is the most sulphuree and the
Starting point is 00:43:06 plus flagrant to bring the word in English where is the people are vulgar the people we're in
Starting point is 00:43:13 the season really the I'm the season of the last year where is it's going to go to get
Starting point is 00:43:18 to get to the code of I'm I'd think it's this dynamic religious where's what
Starting point is 00:43:23 we're talking to make to make the religion of like the canon that's Occupation Double
Starting point is 00:43:28 as representation of our generation who's like, yeah, there's young religious, fucking practicant. I think it
Starting point is 00:43:33 rifted in the tempo, the vibe, the season, but we've decided to not do that. And I
Starting point is 00:43:38 think it's because the 25 years years of the discourse political around the light of the
Starting point is 00:43:45 team of production which is not like, really politically literate. There's a malise by the
Starting point is 00:43:50 religion in Quebec. It's that by all different of all different of different
Starting point is 00:43:53 of the Quebec or Quebecor or the industry mediatic-Qaeda, has reached to make in sort that
Starting point is 00:44:01 all the form of practice religious equivocal to a renaisement to the laisity. We have created an espouse because the
Starting point is 00:44:08 laisity equal to any religion in the space public, not to the laisity equal to the neutrality
Starting point is 00:44:14 of the state, it's that the laisety would be by the fact that we retire the
Starting point is 00:44:18 religious of the life. Tandis that's not really that a state that is a state that
Starting point is 00:44:23 is a person not a position religious. I have all that's that I'm
Starting point is 00:44:26 I'm against the disposition of the law 21 that impairs the ensignants to port a hijab because for me for having a state laic it's all that
Starting point is 00:44:35 people can't practice their religion when François he said the Quebec the Quebec are for the law 21 but for him
Starting point is 00:44:42 how the Quebecers would be that the laisit would be in a society if there's there's been a service of gas and proof
Starting point is 00:44:48 that they pour to hijab but it's not really the lawist but it's so I think it's just
Starting point is 00:44:53 it's just droll that's all in in all in all in all the aspects political, social, but that the religion, it's been really too much
Starting point is 00:44:59 for them. They, they know, they're this sort of recies of couple incomplete. And I think that's that will nure the plus in an epidemic. But it's all a couple of color. In plus, you know, and the first couple, 100% afro-descendant of the history of occupation two. Because Ines and Stevens
Starting point is 00:45:14 are in a final, but Ines is Moroccan. And after, Kiari, and Marjorie, that's not because it's Kiari. Okay. It's a joke. But it's so, I think so fucking interesting. I think it's for that's for that,
Starting point is 00:45:27 you know, when we've talked about when we're quite a lot of comments on on the comments on on the time
Starting point is 00:45:33 it's like, it's not, it's meaningless, if you're not any sense that we can find, at what it's worth,
Starting point is 00:45:39 and I think it's not we decide, it's what the experiences cultural, federates, it's all
Starting point is 00:45:45 people talk of this year, many people, people, in the case, but, like, And, you know, he'd visit these temples
Starting point is 00:45:57 or, you know, he participated in a species of ceremony spiritual, there's, in the country of the arrival, or I don't know but I'm, but it's like if he'd let's the place to that from that, you know, it's something of tourist, a loisier, a,
Starting point is 00:46:11 a diversement, something that's almost that you regard from, but it has not a place, finally, if you do the practice or you la view, your spirituality. It's all for me. Okay, thank you, Muna.
Starting point is 00:46:24 My, my subject is, I repeat, the return of the Fama Ungovernable of Miss Piggy to Lily Allen, because I've learned, I think, it's two, three years, in any case, that Jennifer Lawrence, so, actress American, had produced a film on Miss Piggy with Emma Stone, and that the humorist Cole Escola was after writing the scenario.
Starting point is 00:46:45 That for saying, I mean, I'd listen to the mopets when I was little, because my parents would that I'd learn the English, so I'd regard to that. And my tutu'-d-and-fance, it was a greenoil, Kermit, crinkees his dog, and it did it again
Starting point is 00:46:57 in the guarderob, but he functioned too. We've got to be my son, I'm identified to Miss Piggy, because in the history of Muppets,
Starting point is 00:47:06 Miss Piggie, it's the blonde of Kermit. And it's kind of a person interesting, Miss Piggie, I don't know
Starting point is 00:47:12 if you know I'm not. I'm not looking the mopettes. Okay, but we could, we could put might
Starting point is 00:47:16 make an extract. You and me it is French Oh, sometimes it is wearying being the She's only person around here with culture and refinement,
Starting point is 00:47:26 nests not? There's only one, Miss Piggy, and she is moire. She has a lot. It's a person who is someone who is someone who is in the performance of a femininity, but like ultra-feminine. They wear the tallon-o, she likes the color rose, the bea of furrure. It's a someone who is, sometimes, dominant, is chial,
Starting point is 00:47:49 and even, like, a little self-centered, so egocentric. It's someone who desire the celebrity in a way explicit. And it's certainly someone, I think, who I'm, who desire, so she's in love with Kermit. I've noted, she like, she likes, she's like
Starting point is 00:48:06 capable of having, without necessarily receive, in return. Because it's, in my memories, Kermit, he's not always, you know, he's not always super fine with her. And apart to that, she, she has made art martial.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Okay, right. It's interesting. It's like an nature and the desire for the woman
Starting point is 00:48:24 it's not not always viewed of a positive and she she's allowed
Starting point is 00:48:29 to desire without necessarily she's she's I think interesting of the
Starting point is 00:48:36 part of a person in a particular in a issue that's the first that's
Starting point is 00:48:41 I'm remember that my sister my sister when she when she did
Starting point is 00:48:45 sometimes I'm sometimes that in these words and the way she said
Starting point is 00:48:50 it was something of deprecative. It was not a compliment that I'd like to make. No, but it's me derange not because I'm embrace like my inner Miss Peggy.
Starting point is 00:49:00 I think that I think I resemble a bit sometimes apparently that for certain people it would be a icon feminist. That I had
Starting point is 00:49:05 read a text that's called Miss Piggy Feminism Redefining Human Relationship through martial arts
Starting point is 00:49:12 of Samantha Brennan is a papy university is a a girl who's a university of Western Ontario. So I can put it in the notes, but, but, you know, we're doing this text, and, you know, there's kind of many, there's many, there's a text on Miss Piggy on the web, that she has even reimbled the price Sackler Center
Starting point is 00:49:31 in 2015 for her role of pioneer feminist. It's not a personage that would have been necessarily written for the petite, but rather for the women. It's not a model for the little female, it's not the kind of model
Starting point is 00:49:43 that's the way, it's not for me it's never not quite a
Starting point is 00:49:47 model aspirational but it's just that that I am that I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:49:50 today, the fact that it represents a form of a
Starting point is 00:49:55 paradox extreme, that's that's that's difficult to categorize to serene
Starting point is 00:50:01 and that we love that we love quote, she's not too a church
Starting point is 00:50:06 she did that it's a lot a lot of an object of that she is at a way repousant and
Starting point is 00:50:11 attirate, strong and delicate, amical and hostile, at the way human or woman and animal.
Starting point is 00:50:17 It's a marionette, but it's a marionette complex, who can't not let's not manipulate.
Starting point is 00:50:23 I've read also, I did some research. She has a backstory of four page that
Starting point is 00:50:27 had been written by his creator that's not destined to public, but just to marionettists
Starting point is 00:50:33 who will it to manipulate to come to understand a bit what's what's
Starting point is 00:50:36 interiority. Is you public this box, too, I don't. I've got found the four pages, but I'm like the grand
Starting point is 00:50:42 line of that, so she she has been in a little little little her old when she was
Starting point is 00:50:47 really a real real relationship with his mother that was her treat her really she had
Starting point is 00:50:52 been in the course to survive. Oh, my good. And it said also that she has a
Starting point is 00:50:58 lot of aggressiveness. It's someone that's a very aggressive is that has been
Starting point is 00:51:03 had used of this agressivity that just in his chomimen of survivance.
Starting point is 00:51:08 The beauty pageants. No, but just for traversing the life in time that woman, celibate, sole, vulnerable also. And, you know, it's someone who
Starting point is 00:51:18 research the celebrity. So, she has this desire to be a story who it to have to have to be a person, so that
Starting point is 00:51:26 vulnerability, immense. Wow. Their complexity. Yeah, really, it could be like a, really,
Starting point is 00:51:33 a navet, this film, but it's give the gout, and we've said that it
Starting point is 00:51:37 will be a film dark. I think I'm thinking that Miss Peggy is really,
Starting point is 00:51:43 I don't know what I'm the impression that she signaled the return of a
Starting point is 00:51:47 typified ungovernable or in English, we could say unruly so he's not
Starting point is 00:51:52 causeed but he can't not not not not put also feral
Starting point is 00:51:57 the savage but I like I like the term goblin in mode goblin.
Starting point is 00:52:03 But mode goblin it's going to be, like, be in front of her bed, have been in the table in the game.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Yeah, it can't be so. It can be so much it can't be able to be there's not just one
Starting point is 00:52:16 that's good. And it's that also that you have got to keep in the time that you have
Starting point is 00:52:21 a march to see to become a man ungovernable, it's, it's, there's not
Starting point is 00:52:26 there's not there's not there's there's a unruly or ingvernable, in fact, is that you
Starting point is 00:52:33 don't all the all the time likable. It's to say that you deplet, sometimes, or you deplet all the time, or you, there's a part of you
Starting point is 00:52:40 will deplear, and it's something that's something that assume. And I'm, I'm trying to try to work in the last year,
Starting point is 00:52:48 I had even made, you know, the colliers that we had, when we were with these little grain of wreath. You know,
Starting point is 00:52:55 to what I'm know? No, I see not, to what you know. And you then, and you do you ask,
Starting point is 00:52:59 and you of rye, like, I've never did that. Ah, well, I've told you in my coffer in my coiffra, but, like,
Starting point is 00:53:04 I've made insured the chien on a grainry. I have a collier greenery with that, for me to remember that I tried
Starting point is 00:53:10 to deplear, to be a chien, to say, no, without me feel, Miss Piggier is not perfect at deplet,
Starting point is 00:53:17 and even, sometimes, she would say, if we'd say that's a porcine because it's a cochon, I think that
Starting point is 00:53:22 brought us to have been this element to be a way, a way, there's a duality
Starting point is 00:53:29 between, like, the femininity full-assum, but also the destruction, and, like, exactly. I thought that it was really contrapoise to a other current parallel, which is quite different, so
Starting point is 00:53:40 the trade wife which we talk about many people, it's like the contrapoise to that. This newvel, on the film of Miss Piggy, it's actually
Starting point is 00:53:48 at the same moment than another moment cultural, it's to say the release of the album West End Girl
Starting point is 00:53:54 of Lily Allen, the chanteous British. We are talking specifically about her divorce because she has released a new album. It sort of came from nowhere on the weekend. It's called West End Girl.
Starting point is 00:54:04 And I have never heard a more detailed account of the breakdown of a marriage. Lily Allen, West End Girl. This is a start to finish masterpiece. Lily Allen's West End Girl has sparked a career resurgence. But is it all just tabloid fodder or is this really one of the albums of the year? In this album, she'll do it will make the chronology of his divorce with the actor of Stranger Thing David Harbour.
Starting point is 00:54:30 It's a fan of Lillian of when I was young like 18 years, 19 years, it's all new smile, it's literally
Starting point is 00:54:37 bursed my first real pen of love. It's someone I see you cry and makes me smile. It's someone that, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:47 I've been so much long time and then, apparently it had said seven that she had not launched an album,
Starting point is 00:54:54 and boom, it arrives, she had enregistraised it in the time to it's like in 10 years, and it's entirely on her rupture,
Starting point is 00:55:01 her divorce, almost in a chronological, they're all all over all the fuller of the launchment of
Starting point is 00:55:09 this album that that makes quite quite jazes, I've seen a TikTok of Lili Alon,
Starting point is 00:55:13 where she will parodied a video of Nara Smith, so the famous Trad Wife by Excellus.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Lili Aline, I've not seen, I'm not sure, the entirety of her career, I mean, it's
Starting point is 00:55:24 I've got a bout that I've listened and I know she's like she's the other controversy, it's not a perfect pantout, I think she has been
Starting point is 00:55:30 cancel it several times, but it's a person that's really true in these words, I've had to be able to the point it's
Starting point is 00:55:38 the way, the way, the way, the way, we're not like in a album to teloswip or it's just
Starting point is 00:55:42 just these metaphors. We're really in the explicit. It's Messi, all it's all the example, she will know to tell us
Starting point is 00:55:50 all the details of the facture of the facture that will return in a sack by rapport a saccoche
Starting point is 00:55:56 that his ex-marie had to an ammonde Okay, he was like he was like,
Starting point is 00:56:02 he was in a kind of there's, you know, there's plenty of detail, I'm not to tell you
Starting point is 00:56:05 talk about, the story, but the joe sexual that they get, I've got
Starting point is 00:56:11 a bit of plug, I've tried a bit of black, I'm in the dra of my li, blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:56:18 it's extremely personal, it's very particular, and, you know, it's basically like, you,
Starting point is 00:56:21 the expression who says, lave his lounge cell in public, it's literally that.
Starting point is 00:56:25 But it's refreshing and I think that's that it's something in a environment
Starting point is 00:56:30 musical where we're talking about the music generated by Liyah, these species of
Starting point is 00:56:35 music very generic. It's so personal, it's so particular that it's like
Starting point is 00:56:39 to the slope that we are in a rupture that's totally situated.
Starting point is 00:56:44 You know even the people, by example, there's a song that's made
Starting point is 00:56:47 Madeline and it's all around this amont or this Mettress, who's called Madeleine,
Starting point is 00:56:54 and we're sometimes sometimes even these exchanges between Lili Aline and what's they're said,
Starting point is 00:57:01 of the textos, we'll read these textos in the words of the song. It's not my words,
Starting point is 00:57:06 Vanessa Destinie, she'll make an urbania there's that's called Lili
Starting point is 00:57:10 Alon to us to save to the ethero-fat but there there's something of
Starting point is 00:57:14 revanchor in what you when you see, you see, you saw, the rage, the
Starting point is 00:57:18 coler of Lillian And even like in the space of buzz mediatique of the launchment of this album
Starting point is 00:57:24 that... The season of Stranger Things saw. It's like if David Arbor he saw
Starting point is 00:57:29 from his hibert for the promo to that so he's like in the media
Starting point is 00:57:34 Yeah, yeah. At Halloween for example she has published a TikTok of her
Starting point is 00:57:37 disguised in Madlin so the person in the character in the design animated
Starting point is 00:57:41 for infar Madlin and he enfonse the constantly in
Starting point is 00:57:45 all his production of content. It made also, I'm sorry to to make these parallels
Starting point is 00:57:50 between the women, I'm not they're not going to get one face to the
Starting point is 00:57:53 other, but Kathy Perry who has sensibly the same age, and who came also
Starting point is 00:57:57 to get a song of rupture. I don't listen to listen to live? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:58:04 Bandade. It's like post Gitty, sort of with Trudeau Boy? I
Starting point is 00:58:09 think it did the song? Try it All the Mediction Lorded My Expectation
Starting point is 00:58:14 Made Every Justification bleeding out, bleeding out, bleeding out slow, band dates over a broken heart. That's, it's generic, I would say, it would say, it would be applied to any part of any other than the legal one is, it's so specific.
Starting point is 00:58:27 And there's something in the idea of being generic that's like, hey, I'm going to talk of my emotions, but I'm going to make attention to not blesses the people, I'm, I'm a diplomat. So, I don't know if you've seen, but the new blonde of her ex-a-Katty Perry, and it's disguised in Katty Perry at Halloween.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Oh, yeah. She's disguised Katty Perry who goes in the space Halloween and she's made to
Starting point is 00:58:50 embrace the planche. It's so mean, it's really so I'm if I've been Catipari
Starting point is 00:58:55 I'm all in in in my words, so with with Lily, we have the impression to get
Starting point is 00:59:00 the nose in the bellbe of sal, you know, we have the impression even
Starting point is 00:59:03 almost to power feel the trace of sperm on these on the
Starting point is 00:59:09 we're in the name, we have the face, and we also a trame
Starting point is 00:59:13 visual for very to be arrace his story in a real house, even to see the real mebble, the real lie of couple,
Starting point is 00:59:20 because in 2003, there had been the tourn of their apartment, of several etes, it's super luxurious at New York. Welcome to the
Starting point is 00:59:29 bedroom, A.D. This is our bedroom. It's kind of cool because there's no windows in this section, right? So there are windows in the bathroom
Starting point is 00:59:39 and then there are windows in the closet. David likes to sleep in the mornings. It's true. And he doesn't like natural light because he's also a vampire. So we can close these doors and he can sit in here and sleep or watch television till 2 o'clock in the altar.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Yes! And then, obviously, post-lancement of the album, there are many, many people who revisit this video. Now, there's 8.7 million of views on Internet. It's a video where I remember having seen at the time I had found it really malaysant. And I was not able to put my door on what's that he'd
Starting point is 01:00:15 make it mal-alase Is it's the decor? Because it's surchargeded. We're in the Palette of Versailles but Kramm
Starting point is 01:00:23 there's a tapissary with the flowers everywhere of the tapy and there's the chamber, the chame of and of his
Starting point is 01:00:30 ex who has not the fenet and it's like a grose his ex-Marie brief, did the comment
Starting point is 01:00:36 all the turn of the apartment He hates on the decoration? No, he on that he hates on his
Starting point is 01:00:42 on his blonde, on Lily, you know, and he he's always trying the spotlight, you'll see always marches before Lily for to be in front of the camera. And then I'll read an extract of the article of Vanessa Destined in Urbania
Starting point is 01:00:54 that I liked she said, The singeress does the choice conscientious and delibered without reserve the man who has made a lot
Starting point is 01:01:01 so that he is generally attended of the women that make proof of retinue, of discretion, more of clemence when they are
Starting point is 01:01:07 humilied by the man of their In the bush of allene, the famous phrase of Giselle Pelico, it's a hushed to Kant, it's a hymn to enter David Harbour, vivant. You know, even, it's violent.
Starting point is 01:01:19 You know, I was talking to Miss Peggy, who's sometimes violent, like, that he made these or martial and all, at a moment in a day, even in one of these songs, you'd listen these cuts of fusie. Like, she was there,
Starting point is 01:01:27 and he was ready to get to, like. It's refreshing in the sense that she doesn't not even a model of the suffering and of the color that's like a thing to do, or a mode of employ. It's more like a crashout.
Starting point is 01:01:50 It's that that makes in sort I think that we can more be more to identify and be in this work there. And I think that there's something
Starting point is 01:01:56 in the reception of these characters that, Miss Piggie, Bratt, Lillie Allen, in this moment that is influenced
Starting point is 01:02:03 by the climate actual. And I could not put my door on the show because is Is it the mounte of the right, I don't know. But in case, it made me think to my research
Starting point is 01:02:11 on the explorators polar, because the explorators polar polar, who have explored, not all in the same time, the same region, there are who are being putted on new, and other who have been literally obliged, depending on the time, in function of what we had
Starting point is 01:02:28 been to what we had to search at this moment of the history. By example, there are two explorators British that we compare so often, so Robert Falcon Scott and Shackleton, who are quite the explorators of the same epoch. And there's one just before the
Starting point is 01:02:45 First War Worldial who is become immensely celebrant, so Robert Falcon Scott, because, well, his exploration had not really reached, so he's and he is more. He is more, but at this
Starting point is 01:02:58 In this epoch, we had the war that, of this sacrifice, in guem, for the nation, because we
Starting point is 01:03:05 were in those people, because during the First World War, there had enormously
Starting point is 01:03:10 of mort. It was the first war that we did industrial and we had been sense of
Starting point is 01:03:17 these mort that, to find a meaning to do that, so, so we
Starting point is 01:03:20 had got to this figure that for long long time, during less 50
Starting point is 01:03:25 years, Just as a time that at a moment at a moment of the war of Vietnam, this idea of hero sacrificial,
Starting point is 01:03:32 it had been the road. The people were made come to the war finally not,
Starting point is 01:03:38 even if we were to be able to be able to his sense, the people had to reponse,
Starting point is 01:03:46 finally, their way their fashion to envisaged the world, and the model of
Starting point is 01:03:49 the hero sacrificial, he is like tomb in desuitudes, and there we're to be interested
Starting point is 01:03:54 before at Shackleton, who, he didn't know, but he had been a leader extraordinary. His boat was made
Starting point is 01:04:02 by the glass, in fact, so he has been in the month on the bankies, he was, he's all
Starting point is 01:04:08 on an island, the island of with, like, his own, I think, he was about a 20thens. And then,
Starting point is 01:04:14 he said, attend, me, there, he's constructed a little barque, a battle,
Starting point is 01:04:17 like, he embarked there, with four um, he has traversed the mare of Weddell,
Starting point is 01:04:22 which is one of the mer the most tumultuous on the planet of Earth. He has survived for finally to run in a station balanier, where we'd chew the baline. And then he had traversed the island during, like, two years
Starting point is 01:04:36 without eating, without, and to finally, to find these humans there be there, hey, I get these nefragies, you've got to
Starting point is 01:04:43 go to the island. My equipage who is rested on the island of the elephant. And after after several tentative,
Starting point is 01:04:49 he has finally saved all these men who are seen and so it's literally a tour of a
Starting point is 01:04:54 matter, you know, and he, at this moment that, all the years of Vietnam,
Starting point is 01:05:00 he corresponded to the ideal masculine which we had been a figure of a leader. And we
Starting point is 01:05:06 would say that like a leader even in the world of affairs, these entrepreneurs. Well,
Starting point is 01:05:10 yeah, all the time he will have there be self-help book who they bring the
Starting point is 01:05:14 soul of Shackotein. Well, even the course at Harvard who enseign, for example, certain
Starting point is 01:05:20 abilities in a affair, in preening Shackleton as model. It's that, it's that depend, you, of the time, the Diet Geis, and then I'm asked, well, you know, in this moment,
Starting point is 01:05:29 it's like if we're going to see a woman who, a woman rompue, a woman suffering, a woman in a color,
Starting point is 01:05:38 it's with that that we're with that we an effronement of her couple, a woman who view, a A color, a desire of vengeance, a woman, inguvernable.
Starting point is 01:05:49 D'Earer, even when Taylor Swift, she has launched his album, there's an article in The New Yorker that was published the 5thobre who said, do we still like Taylor Swift when she's happy? It's like this idea of couple perfect, and that all right, it's not to corresponded not to what we had to be the moment. And then, obviously, all the kind of discourse that's past around the article of Chante Joseph
Starting point is 01:06:13 is having a boyfriend embarrassing now, published the 29 October, which has been reprieed, notably by the press, a chronicer's
Starting point is 01:06:20 a journalist that simply reprie the concept of the article in changing the headline. At the the article,
Starting point is 01:06:26 we're talking of ethero-fatalism, so an espete of the state where the women would be
Starting point is 01:06:32 disillusioned and they would, if they're if they're sexual with these um,
Starting point is 01:06:37 as that it's be deceivant? Is that that we research? Is that we want a woman who suffer for Relate? Selon-mo, it's more the state of spirit in which we plunge the suffering that is researched. When we suffer,
Starting point is 01:06:50 justly, we're pushing to say the things as well, at least censure, to be perhaps more in a word that I don't but the authenticity. We have not afraid to do feel even
Starting point is 01:07:01 that sometimes we like sometimes we're like in this sense that we're a little like these Miss Piggy. We're not the good affair,
Starting point is 01:07:08 but we do something of the real, in function of the emotions we're not in the time
Starting point is 01:07:12 to protect person, we're not in trying to flatting someone, we're not in trying to
Starting point is 01:07:17 preserve a image, we confront, and I think that's that we're that we're really,
Starting point is 01:07:23 maybe more a form of sincerity, to say the things they're telling the things,
Starting point is 01:07:28 rather than the emotion of the tristess of the suffrage, well.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Thank you very very good segment the recommendation cultural this week Daphne, we've seen
Starting point is 01:07:40 a video that we've full-a- We're full-amed. Carl and we 2.1 essay, it's available
Starting point is 01:07:45 gratuit on YouTube and we let it in the notes. I think for it's
Starting point is 01:07:50 for reprint a word for me for me the year, it's generational like a video,
Starting point is 01:07:56 it's a video, that part in fact of the attack to sabbre that had
Starting point is 01:08:02 had been the Catana. Yeah, the catana where is an man the
Starting point is 01:08:06 the Giroir were, he had to go to Quebec, and he had Tewed two persons, and he talked of this act of violence, and it's our report to the violence from the 50, 60 years, years or one rapport to the violence,
Starting point is 01:08:22 how it has been cultivated in the pop culture, melanched with the state of the world, socioeconomic, I think, the, the liens that are made are really interesting, and how they're recited, it's so engaging. It's a lot of, it's a lot of, it. You know, Adam Curtis.
Starting point is 01:08:38 It's inscrue in what we call the Visual Essay, which are quite popular on the Internet, but I'd say that there's really a great mark to comebley to the country Quebecois. We have not even been really of video essay or of video essayists that, to, at least, produce this genre of content that
Starting point is 01:08:53 in a fashion regular. It's a space mediatic to combed, and I thought that, we were we were excited by the avatement of this. So, so I'll go to the link in the description. It's of Victor Galatera and also Chiened
Starting point is 01:09:06 refractor. And what I've found really interesting is that, is that, we, we're part
Starting point is 01:09:11 of a case of actuality that's specific in the raticis very large
Starting point is 01:09:16 and we will be interested to the political and the history. What is
Starting point is 01:09:22 what we we've jazes with Victor Galatera because we did part
Starting point is 01:09:26 on a panel on the podcast on Quebec that he Victor Galatera
Starting point is 01:09:30 had organized and I know I don't if it's like confidential
Starting point is 01:09:33 or whatever but he He said that at the base, it was destined for the platform audio at Radio Canada, and that there had, finally, backtrack, in seeing the amount of the project. And it's just the genre of power that that we need. And it's just that that's a product cultural, interesting. So, when you said that, I do that, I'm surprised zero.
Starting point is 01:09:55 But continue to refuse these types of projects like that, ambitious, and continue to produce these things that not interest will not. Bars, just for Just for The text of the essay video is Victor Galareta
Starting point is 01:10:10 and Elua Aloran Well, I'm really I'm really other, but it's I'm gonna
Starting point is 01:10:16 but I'm totally agree that when you're when you're in a diffusor an institution
Starting point is 01:10:24 and I'm like to like to say what's what you do you want? When you do you see the process of you're doing
Starting point is 01:10:31 to do you're like no, I'm doing do the documentary, I've done to do the essay, I've got to
Starting point is 01:10:35 start a lot of time. A essay it's at least a end of course and it's a part of
Starting point is 01:10:41 a partour intellectual, but you can not, I'm not the impression that it's a question
Starting point is 01:10:45 of time because of the fact that when we're saying more than something of hyper
Starting point is 01:10:50 circumscri and the basic, then no, it doesn't not, it's not so the people
Starting point is 01:10:57 people are something of something of something on something on what, um
Starting point is 01:11:00 rumined, and to learn of the things. The people are curious, I think that's the thing that's the
Starting point is 01:11:04 thing that's the thing we're trying to say to find out like that's Caffe Snake episode number 67
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