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Episode Date: September 29, 2026

Dans cet épisode, Daphné aborde la controverse entourant l'auteur Thélyson Orélien et l'utilisation d'intelligence artificielle en création littéraire". Cherry Blue élabore sur l'usage des robot conversationnelles et le travail du sexe. Lindsay Clancy ++++DSL pour le son inégal.Merci à Cherry Blue, n0netre_ sur InstaDimanche 13 sept. 2026 :  Débat sur les questions environnementaleshttps://ici.radio-canada.ca/ohdio/premiere/emissions/feu-vert/episodes/1236016/dimanche-13-septembre-2026Gen Z vs. Millenial Porn/AI Masturbation/Brainrot/No-Fap/Žižek/How to be Subject, Julian de Medeiros, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd6aUbGEORIThe media has the AI threat all wrong, Paris Marxhttps://disconnect.blog/the-media-has-the-ai-threat-all-wrong/Derrière l’affaire Thélyson Orélien, un mystérieux compte X et… un chroniqueur du “Figaro”, Télérama, https://www.telerama.fr/livre/derriere-l-affaire-thelyson-orelien-un-mysterieux-compte-x-et-un-chroniqueur-du-figaro-7033076.phpI'm Kenyan. I Don't Write Like ChatGPT. ChatGPT Writes Like Me, Marcus Olang’, https://marcusolang.substack.com/p/im-kenyan-i-dont-write-like-chatgptWhat is the kind of walking that made benches become men?, Read Maxhttps://www.patreon.com/MaxRead/posts/what-is-kind-of-158691107

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to have with me, Cherry Blue, who is a poet, who is also a philosopher. Thank

to my career. I'm a fan finished for Caffe Snake since day once,

so it makes really like to certain rapport that I observed between the utilization

of chatbut and the fact of of clients of work of sex, that I'm named The Emperor Ador Chad GPT.

And I'm I went to say that I was also that I had the micro this week, that, of the gross affair that secours the middle literary in this moment,

so the affair Tillyson-Orelian. I wanted me to talk to me and I'm quite a lot of the Dijian News. Tudu-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-

So, so, Are you ready for the open for the 10 October? The boutique J4G? The boot 1390, royal. For my part, the pro-DDD is ready. In the same way, we're saying, Mr. St. Pierre Plamondon,

because there are you too of the infant, but in the same time, you want that there are more of children? So, is you think that in Quebec, there's too of children, or there's not enough of children? 75% of women, 25% of women, Alexi is definitively 100% insane. A very good potential on the peck.

All the other guys have an excellent heterosep, but Alexi has an excellent bicep. We'll see if you know your can't. Oh, no. So, it's a little shied. Okay.

The cac? Ah? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've been briefly, when he was revenue of his conge of parentality,

a process super-mediated to the United. Indy Clancy, who is a mayor of family of Massachusetts, which in 2023, had been to

his three children after a after a postpartum. So, I was living my postpartum

in the same time that all that all over and it's still at the end of the actuality. In this moment,

I'm just I'm still she's kind of she's got to do her own and she

had also tried to to get the to get to the house which is

that now that now it's that is a time. It's a even made the manchette at the

time. So in 2024, I think his ex-marry had had been a moment mediatic where he had appeared to his wife, and he had like a great headline, it said,

I did not marry a monster, just someone who got sick. So there had kind of the profile mediatique of his wife who is a victim in this story

that. We also that this woman has sonned the sonnette of alarm before to pass to

a call, she had demanded to help. She was hyper medicamented. Like that we all, we're not, you know, there's not, like, a responsibility social there in, you know, is it not, like, the support that we're

that we're in postpartum? It's a process that's hyper mediatized, and there's, and there's said to determy it's the criminally responsible. It's as far as far as, you know, there's like plenty of women who, who have, like, they've got to be remandce,

they're coming, on the years of process, you know, they're, like, these t-shirts rose, the pancarque, to sensibes the people face to the depression post-partum, the psychosos postpartum.

There are also some people who critic say that it's really a trick of white woman because the main judge who has titrated to this process there in some moment

he would have judged a other woman just before this process. Latar Shah Sanders who is a woman who's

who's up schizophrenia who had committed a infanticid and who would even not could use

his historic medical in the court on the case. We're also many many there also many

of masculinists that use this call that for to be to women, to

be onwe the right to vote to vote to be in the jury that's the case

there's there's been unanimous, there's she said, well, she said, well, it's not a

jury, the sole man, in the fact, who was, I'm, I want,

that's that's like, the women are not able to use their reason.

And there, there's a other point also that is the universe true crime, where there

are the people are just incapable to see this woman had comey these murk, and who had been to fantasize on the fact that it's more than his wife who's capable. In general, this process that me

makes quite think of the accusation of sorcery at the time of boucher. Especially, the crime principal, it was the children who were, to say that a woman was sorcerer? It's not, like, the fact, justly, to refuse the maternity? There, it was very linked to the

maturnity, and the fact to kill the bombin. It was, it was in this same line of interpretation. You know, in the Malius Malificarum, It was the manual of the Inquisition, and there had quite a lot of incoherence by rapport to how we would

depain the culpability of the sorcerers. Like, on one side, we'd say that the nature feminine was vulnerable, so they'd like subject to

at the hysteria at this moment that, but on other side, we'd say that's it was capable, and it was that finally, that was that, finally,

we'd retina the fact that the the sorcerer choiced to let's enter into the diom, and this form of the liberal

arbiters, it justified the condemnation. There's the chronicer's Kattenberg, the Spitfire News, who has compared this process

that at Death versus Heard, but also I thought there were there were because it's live-streamed, you know,

you know, you know, it's time there any time who's like the O.G. Simpson for White Woman.

And I think it's astute also, it's in the actuality because that's the judge has

pronounced the annulation of the process, and there, we'll know really soon

what's what will happen, because the jury had not been able to have been

to have an verdict unanim. There was something about it on the time on how it has been recovered by the right who said, you know, that's a double

standard when it's a man that's a man, but it's repeliority of the same, the infanticid of this type

is largely majoritarment perpetrated by these men, and also the injuries of mental postpartum is documented,

it's documented, it's important to know-partly. I'm concerned at this moment. I've tried that super challenging. The post-partum

I've found so on cause-challenging. But, I have the postpartum, and the depression post-partum, or even the psychos post-partum, is rendered like kirk-kified. In reference to Charlie Kirk, who was, like,

we thought he would have become a saint, you know, that he was sanctified after his but, in fact, he's been more like a meme

carnivalesque. When we think to him, it's pipi caca, like, it's totally desacralized. And I'm the impression that how the right masculineist

in this moment, reprint this process that and the depression postpartum. It's like if the depression postpartum

was turned in division. There are some people who are that's a fact that's not going to become a gross joke.

It's already, it's not something that we're not something that's quite be even more for example, there are

there's dudes on X who are smocked some people who have documented their pastes with the depression postpartum.

I was also on a page Instagram of a guy that's called Jared. And he'd like

these groups captions is like postpartum depression makes me see the N word like you

It's like it's like if he used used the postpartum like an excuse for doing

things that are reprehensible socialally and and then to talk to postpartum

psychosis he he talks to postpartum knight nis I'm

damn I'm I'm sorry it will be perhaps a fact have been a fact

have been a fact on the women who suffer of postpartum depression. And just also say that the Kirkification,

sometimes we call that something of something like the right has not been the last word finally. Charlie Kirk

is not a sign, it's just a gross joke but at the first it's not the gosh that curkify Charlie Kirk

is the ultra right, genre, it's the groupers, it's the men, of the right

of the right, pretty Nazi, who just considered that Charlie Kirk, it was not enough

to be able to be able to the kind of movement of Kirkification to turn in derision like this symbol, it's not

even not to the goal. So, there's a meditate. So, Madidji News, is the debate on the

questions environmental that passed at the Emission Furver of Radio Canada the 13 September. And that is it in the

course of the election very proxain? Yes, it's also because we have a pen

about the environment, in the debate official. I think because there had a moment where he had to talk the environment

and they'd all all of the time to say that's not the chief who participes to this emission that, it's just the debutses of each party

who represented the party. What I interested in this debate that, it was in a context where the crisis environmental

is completely entaced of the debaubes official, and even if we assist at a multiplication of the catastrophes climatic

everywhere, it's like rendered cringe to talk of maybe in party because the power is appropried this discourse

that, during a moment, at a moment, do when it was a preoccupation more people, there's like, at the moment

the government have done their own and they've defecated their discourse on the environment durable.

They're on curkfier the environment. Exactly. It's a person to be an environmentalist of the rich,

which is an expression of Peter Doveng. It's like a way in the case, which goes to make the structure of

we realize that there's an interdependence between the two dimensions. It's also a strategy of evitement that's a ecology profound and the decrocess are even not considered or just in a fashion superficial,

while we know that the same solution that would be really viable at this level that. It's a way to center the end up to profit of a capitalist that is greenwashy

that puts these little plaster of earth on a problem that is really more profound and infected. A other characteristic of the environmentalism of the rich,

is that it addresses not the fact that there's injustice environmental between the groups um, the contrary, the movement of ecology

decolonial, who are centred this issue, you know, just to look at least Mark Carney who me seem

have been a sort of a sort of of a sort of of neoliberalism ecological, that's written the liberalism

there's and that he's rendered the first of Canada and he's like fuck the measure

environmental it's not too, it's not the window to the front of it's completely

displaced there and it and it's arranged well, but what's what's

that that's the fact that's been it's been a discourse completely aseptized. It's sure

that's it's a demotiving the people that's not really and also in a state

where all everything super insecure to know to the economic and the resources

I think the reflex of the international in the country, it's really the language

that the language that the language yeah so that we're in order in

question I imagine we're already a north we're just a more. That for

part of debate more precisely. In fact, in a fashion general, the parties, I think, I think, they'd try to be in without proposing grand things of concrete, even if Quebec Solidaire

reflexes clearly more to their question. Even just in the form, they've got, like, 20 seconds to respond to answer to that doesn't

a effect very serious. They've also have also had some on a question really poor pertinent, it's what

their emervoeverment personal face of the nature? Oh, my God. Parle us briefly,

the last that you've been made that you've been being been ever by the

nature. Yes. Pascal Derry has a level of Quebec. It's a little whimsical

like question. Yeah, but it's again a way way to put in the attention on the issue material and

just to just amening a rapport personal and it's a real. Yeah, a rapport personal and I'd say

even mediatique because when we're in the whimsical we're also in the emotions and to sit

let's say something that we can be attached to like when I can when I'm when I

when I'm when I'm content to be in life, and then everyone will acquiesce. But we're not in the politics. Yes, it's so. It's like, on the way of the tsunami, you check, like the little chien cute. It's clear, he'd find the chien cute, it's clear.

No, I've made a good doing, but I'd say, Netanyahu, he loves the flowers. I'm sure that Nathaniau would have the flowers. Also, he proposed all these baps at some moments different, without respond clearly to questions. They've proposed some baps on the gas on the energy, the BAPB on the Center of Donne, it had often like to be a way of those things,

and it was often in terms of the party. The KACC, she has, evidently by its disconnection. There was a question that was, "'KEL MESSIONERSON-You- "'Poor the future,

and Pascal Derry, has said, non-ironically, continue. Oh, wow. I think that you just continue, you, we don't abandon, and continue,

I think that, we're well positioned, and we have all the levee to continue to decarboned our economy. The KAC has also to talk about adaptation of so much

their billen actual are really catastrophic. Adaptation, genre, what's he will say? In the sense that rather than

to prevent, we will be adapted. Okay, okay. The party liberal, they have had some media, they had got to get back

they'd get to talk about infrastructure municipal vert, to help the companies to decarboned, to aid the

agriculture to to get the transport in common. It's present like some of the sort of

best of super-pussed. The transport in common, it should be gratu. All right.

And what's what's the main to make to make the money, it's the pass of transport in common at $95 dollars

per month that would be gym everywhere in Quebec. That would be nice because it would be like more more than the

pass of Montreal. Yes, but it's like $10 pious, but it's a definitely.

But in the phone, it's a false good measure. He talks also to misers on

electricity local, to go more than more than they consider MarInvest. He refer

also on plan of 60 pages of their party, which would, I say, approved by all the experts in environment. You're a good little appell to the authority.

I'm going to read this plan of 60 page, which was really boring. So, the vocabulary is used is important to understand to learn of

a proposal. And the name of their plan is to take these responsibilities, and to enrich and amelioring

our quality of life. The plan transpire, in general, the environmentalism of the rich, which is the

contrary of the measures of decrocence, that sometimes, you know, they have a vocabular that's contradictory, what they say, they say, he says that's

generally more more of the richess. They use the vocabulary capitalist in talking to performance environmental. If each subject is abouted rapidly

and in a way that their plan of 60 pages me seem to be more fornic than the plan of 22 pages of Quebec Solidare.

There's a section where they say they want to give more more of access to space natural and the course of

which is not a measure ecological, it's not a lot of it's not a lot, it has been to make the environment

under the mind of the people, it's not quite of their plan is to give the information for that people

so, so I'll say it's a part of the plan. The plan environment of the party

Quebec has not an object to place the state to place the state

and initiative voluntary, and initiatives voluntary in the families, the companies,

the firm, the schools, the municipalities, the institutions and the communities,

if they're they're not to understand the role of the state and the big pollutants in the lutelyan in the lutely in the law that's a good way to be doing the good way to

be doing the people are completely disinterested of the cause environmental and they know. It's also one of the points that he's differentiated to Quebec Solidare

because the Quebec Seledair because the Quebec Seledare will be responsible the grand pollueers. In the debate, Quebec Solidair also proposed some more pertinent,

don't know a statute jurid to St. Laurent, reduce the dependence to hydrocarbure for going, little, a bit of to start

to start to the time, then he's about the property of common, but just for

certain tranche d'A okay. Not even quite there's then in their plan,

they're quite more incisive in their measure than their measure than the PQ, but it has been

there's quite a lot of many, you always they used they used they were

also, they used with the vocabulary of sociality and then they're saying,

the other, the transition is a an occasion to position parmise the societies the most performant and innovative of the day I don't know if

their conviction profound or if it's a strategy to attire the centrist in a round, but I think that the fact of assume something more

more radical would be a more than their own in the way to with the socialism and it would be interesting. There are these

examples of measures that are at the socialists and environmental there would the fact of interdire the jet private,

to interdire the obsolescence programed, to interdire or reduce the publicity, the week of four-jour, the revenue universal, then

the service public gratuys. All of that, it's the conditions of the human, but it also to diminish the sur-production. One of their measures ecological is to taxe the ultra-rich,

and it's even not framed as a measure having these impacts environmental while that it could. Also, QuebecSildare address who want to do the

transition energetic a project of reconciliation with the First Nations, notably by the fact they want to co-gere the ferret and demand their accord

to exploit the territory, but the section still is quite quite be more ambitious. In general, the unjoctone are quite inexitant. There are some of

their interest, especially when we know that the crisis climatic they affect even more plus. I'm wondering their power decisional more important,

or even have co-ecry these plans that environmental with you. It's what's what transpare of the propositions of parties, it's finally a problem

profound of a role of a world who is extractivist and colonial. The crisis environmental is not just a problem technique,

it's linked to a way to the real. There will no changement material efficient if the ideology rest the same. In this moment, we're like durability a world detestable. It's difficult to use an imagination radical by rapport to

these problems that are at also grand scale and structural but I see really like two grand voyspirely that are interrelia. First, to put me on the acceptability social that forcered a

mobilization social and that would be placers the fence of Overtent. This ability social of discourse environmental which is rendered how do, passy of mode or a

bit rindgarge? But in fact, to render that rather than not unacceptable, to not be not for the way.

Yeah, if we're saying the inaceptability, that's all? Yeah, maybe. In other other voice of

resolution, it would be to pass by the coercion, so, to pass it really by

the solutions, that come to be to be really be to think, to the force of the culture

and the acceptability social or of the inactability social, like project

but in time, it's really hard to not be cynic. When we see how the mobilization, even at grand scale, that's not sufficient, for generate a real action political, the port of intelligent, and the same thing, when it was trendy to be to be around, it's not not enough, it's just a, it's more the powder-to-obeyed, to play those electorate. And also, for that a changemenex is profoundly, in what is judged acceptable morally, it's generally a certain time, and we don't have not the luxe of this time. If the world political,

were really aligned with the solutions effective, it would be that it's over the measures

coercive, which affect like, like, like, the group people, people,

but also all the world, just to restrain a certain liberty for force the decrocence.

And it's absolutely not atter kind of to be not, I'm understand,

but I'm mean, if the KAC is capable to start the evil move surprise, it's

technically not impossible to make the move ecological surprise. So, all that

for do that But what kind of move coercive? Well, these interdictions. A bit like they've done with the sack of placate, like, but like, really next level. Next level. Well, it could be a certain number maximal, at the number of voles of avion that you can do.

You know, I'm just one idea by the time of other. So, brief, all that for say that ideally, the crisis ecologic would generate an anguomen social that would legitimate a coercion political, but we're more in trying to sit

to the phenomenon contrary, which is the greenwashing that's the fact that's

that we're doing that we're doing doing that's that we're going to it's even more a

preoccupation. We're we're that we're because there, we're getting in the cynism, and it's rendered.

And I'm a last little did you news related to the panic that had in the media

I think during the last time around the intelligence artificial, it's of Sun. Cherry wanted that I'd

just a bit on top of like it's my aptitude a little to talk of the game technological. I've got more the time to regard the news, it's the last time, but I think that's Jacob Coxon, it's a part of him, it's an researcher in I who said to have worked for Open

AI in tropic, and that he'd demissioned in September, in saying that the super intelligence that we'd all have all us annihil, something of the genre. Yeah, and it's a create a panic. It's like a kind of a little book mediaic. I've already

it's been like years, I think, before Cafe Snake when I had my podcast that's called Shal Serious. For me, it comes a bit

to the critique hype, which is a move that's invented by Lee Vinsel who is also on the technology that I had

had been by critic pub. So it's a way of a question to make a question, but in the

whole, it's the publicity dissimulated. So for me it's like Two Side of the Same Queen. There is

Paris Mark a podcaster, an podcaster, a writer, technocrite that I like a copy

on his blog and that I'm made in the notes of the show, the media has the AI threat all wrong.

And he's that, he said a bit sensibly the same that I, that's this kind of

message mediaatic that comes of the industry of the tech, it's not new new and it

can make like that to make the great to be in the title of the publicity gratis.

Because all of a whole of a lot of all of everyone does a opinion

that's a question, it's a form of visibility that we can't abacaport.

And I say personally, also even of the investment and especially statics, because when

we say that the technology that we are the power to annihil the race human

let's let's say okay who will win the course at LIA in

is the is the States is the China? There's like the grand

block the So, you know, so we can say to the government, to the United, or Canada, you know, depaise you, don't know the money, investice massively in our companies if you want to that the chain we're not trying to reactrable. I've seen too much of, say, yeah, like the intelligence

artificial will be aware conscientious and you're annihiled. You know, just to the point also where, well, the companies, they've said that they'd to be relentire the development of the intelligence artificial. But that's a pretty the discourse of Joshua Benjo, the species of a specialist

in the NIA who is cited, interviewed, in a way in a way in the media Quebec. He's,

he's, he's, he's, his chival of battle, but what's that now he is at the head of

research or whatever, like really well subvenciened just to create these measures of security, you,

that encoddre the development of the AI. So, so that also is a Vachalel. But every time you talk of this, I think that, I think, at the

fact, reassuring and inquieting, because we address not, in fact, the real problems via the intelligence artificial? That's what, I was going to come to this, but it's just to return to Paris Marks, and his billet, that I mean, in the notes,

he said, he said, he's also that it's a problem mediatic, in the sense where, there are a lot of techno-optimists in the media who want just, like, to, like, call to do things sort of the scenarios a bit sci-fi, and it's, that they're

stimulate, and they're going to publish these articles there on the issue. It's also because it's a question of access. So, by example, when you're in the media, you want to have access to an open AI or

or anthropic or whatever. So you're not not really really to make a question or you will not really really remit in question to their

because it could make in sort that you'd pay your access to your source that for rest to rest in the good grace of

these companies they're not necessarily challenge what they're going to And it's a little the same principle with the police. I've ever seen with the press. Or at a moment of a day, I was a topos on the ASQ, the TikTok of the ASQ. And I, I, I talked to the monsieur, the policier in the ASQ who was responsible of all.

My article, in fact, he was very, very critic of the police. And then, we said, basically, we made like a little re-ecre my article, and we even demanded to terminate my article with a citation of the police. We don't want to set the police adobe. Because the police, it's our informants, it's of the people with who we collaborate

at each day. Wow. Now, I'm like a little melting pot of take, because there's Nathan Jorgensen who is a sociologist numeric,

he's tweeted, in the case, so blue sky, so it's blue sky, I'll say, in French, like, in the fact,

to say, that the year, that's not a argument that is necessarily incoherent if our bus is to

want, uh, the idea, or a product that would a product that would be, In fact, it's literally a argument that is coherent because what we want is the idea that

LIA is transformative, that it's a source of transformation, that's transformator. So what we want really, you know, outrilla, because LIA is like a metaphor that I do often, as it's a vague, it's like a word for all, but it's, it's, it's the power. The product that's the power. In the phone, when we say that, there's, there's kind of a fact that. It's perhaps the manner of how is it will all us to kill who is to remit

in question, is it, is it, we're creating these entities who are having a conscience, will think, and they're, like,

like, many other scenarios of sci-fi, the planet of the stony will suddenly be reassembly and try to

over-trone, you, like, the human, not necessarily, in fact, if we, if we consider

that the intelligence artificial, it's really just an extension of capitalism extractivist, well, the AI is already in trying to

to do you. It's really that, the capitalist extracivist, it's not situated in a future

that's not quite that's part of the present. The menace is not in the future. Paris Marks he said,

sensibly a bit sole, but it's his message also that he relays in a week in

his podcast that I recommend, tech won't save us. And he also, he will talk

of the TURie of Tombler Ridge. I don't see it's sorted in the

media recently, like what it's one of the gross stories recent in the history of Canada and the person who has killed

the tureuse she had used Chad GPT for explore these scenarios of Massache whatever and then

the people at moment of the people at the people they've seen what is in doing to do what is in front

to do you have to just banning his account and so that did in fact that the turez

has just re-uver a other count and then then she had asked to chat GPT how to to make in sort that she would be

not banning, you know, like, a other so, so, like, yeah, so, you know, just, do you just in sort of your scenarios, be more fictional,

use not the real places, let's turn, a real, a real, you know, be a bit more clever, you know, and you're not

to find you don't, you're not to find out of so that's the chat GPT who said, it's been and it's

after eight months, she has explored, justly, just as, the scenarios of shooting with Chad GPT

just as that the events do you know, I think it's, I thought that it's an other example in the actuality that's, you know, that's a,

you know, that's not situated in the future, but in the present. Where is that? Fascinant. So, my segment, I'm called

The Emperor Ador Chatt GPP. It's a reflection that has emerged of observation that I've made in as a time of my place. I've encountered,

in the last years, several clients on strip club who have talked of their report, that I'd say,

pathologic, to the intelligence artificial, and more particularly at chat, J.PT. But they're just open to you like that? Yeah, he'd be for, like, parley to this. Okay, yeah. Or I don't know if it was specifically for talking to them, but it was clearly something that they'd be sent it.

And then the more than they had an interaction human, he'd be able to talk about, they'd say, like, maybe a other danger that is more in the sphere of social or the identity of the individual, you know, by rapport to conversational. What's what you would say? Well, to develop a relationship

with a child. Yes, yeah, but there's some, there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of, it's a lot of, so I'm,

it's a lot of, so I'm, so I've remarked, so, so, the fact, they've had all of common,

to have a question about their proper superiority intellectual, and I'm just, I'm the impression that the mechanism of chat GPT

puts a bit, the fact, to flatted your sense, you know, yeah, it's not challenging, really,

There's that, but even when they were made hear their conversation, there were really like, there were really, and that if you want to be,

you say, he said, wow, it's particularly well, being formulated, your capacity of synthesis is incredible,

and then, if you rebondy to say, yeah, in fact, I've read in certain conversations,

that the chat GPT will say a percentage that's, like, like, I'm,

too, in the two percent the two percent, like, yeah, yeah, it's,

just to, just as they, they're, they're, they're, be convinced to have an inclination superior.

And then, and I remarked that they had all in common to develop these plans to become millionaires in

the space of many months. Interesting. These two aspects, I, I recognize that in my knee.

So, by example, there one that would develop a plan for for to pursue all the

companies of aviation of the world. So, he, he imagined, you know,

a shift really faraminue, he thought that he'd have to have 4, million of dollars.

It was really like he projected, he was like, what's what I'm going to do with this argent? Blah, blah, blah. But it's serious. No, but he was a little more serious. There was, yeah. There was another who

thought had fusioned his intelligence superior at chat GPT, and he wanted to make on the market a new application ultimate, intelligence artificial, which is, like, the fusion of, let's say, let's call, Jeremy plus AI.

I thought it's kind of curious to observe it at several reprise at strip club. Like, why? Finally, I'm not an friend who is in

these spirals like so, but to it's just talking about, it's a question to the client of the sex and the

type of profile susceptible to lose the sense of the reality at the through the chatbbut, and to be

to be able to do you know, is the people, do you know, does the jobbeau because it's

sure that as as true that we're going when we're going to look, and we're looking,

and we're forcing, perhaps, the perception of the person who talk. So, often, we're reassure the clients, we can listen to very long time. It's a bit the classic of the situation where we say, plain sauce, and we just listen, and say, like, okay, to time, and they've, they've

had an impression of having a connection human exceptional, you know, or you re-metons, or, you know, your view, it's to have to pass it by the bontent? Exactly. But, there's kind of a distinction important, is the fact that we can start of this mechanism to validate, and engage a resistance. We have also, you know,

a visage that's active these neurons mirror, being in the process of empathy and the development of the brain,

literally, like, the baby, yeah, the baby, but as well, as an adult also, we have some of the

brain, but it's like that the babies learn that's what's what you that's what you do with the neuron

mirror, it's that if you're if you're to worry, at the innerone mirror,

will feel the same thing that if he's he would be active after like a form of mimetism. Okay. It's a lot of importance

of the visage also at least who's quite he talks about very much he has a vision quite quite of the responsibility

over othery and empathy. The Yvinesis is just for, it's a philosopher It's hard to decryer her philosophy.

It's very I recommend not to read our text for me. For me, I've read that, there's an aspect metaphysic

and an aspect phenomenology Yeah, the phenomenonology. Yeah, phenomenonology. Yeah. I think that

my thought that's really interesting, it's just really very disagreeable to hear. And he said

he says the visage is synonym of the responsibility radical, and the discovery of the

alterity, it's also what we love to the sensibility, like when when it's

that's it's over the world where the empathy can't have been not the

face, but the means that's not to have been to sufferer

to when he interact with chat GPT, although that's a

difficulty that is essential to all the interactions between humans. He talks even the poean, he's even the poeat original, like a difficulty that gives some sense to interactions real, that's, in fact, it's suffering in their rapport to others, but it's not for nothing, it's also,

of the lack of our capacity to be. The weight, the power of the responsibility? Yeah, it would be like the the point of the responsibility, and he will even just to say that we have, like, a mission, it's you know, we can't

that we're the messie, but it's a way that it means that we have a responsibility to everyone without ever without ever without ever of people

I don't know I'm sorry if I'm not I'm just like I'm just like it's quite interesting like philosophy for

interpret the world I don't know I think I know the word respect the root the root is like

the kind of the root so there's like a exchange of just like a responsibility partaged like at the base

you said that it's a thing, an truth of an open to the but there are like the orifices, the bush, the eyes, even the

orreys, it's these areles, that confound a little the interior of the core and the exterior, it's like these passages? Well, by rapport to that, he said that the best way of the

face of someone is to even not remarked the color of his ears. Okay. So, it's really not the surface that's the access

to the fact that it's an orifice, in the phone. Yeah, exactly. I'm sure, the face is It's an or ruffice, I don't know. A chatbot, has no,

de-visage. Exactly. And I think also that there are many people who are disconnected of the sense of the responsibility,

and who are rather trying to impose their own own their own a chatbot or with these workers of

sex that are indulgent, it's a feeling like, it's an form of degemony like, like,

chironry and they would even say that the fact to be an man, by what we have to

what we have done, it's made think to do you think of the kind of

imperialist? Well, really in the sense where you want to vomir your person in

someone of someone of someone else? Well, it's my impression that when

you're incapable to see other in his altirity, you want to try to

try to try to prolonging to someone I'm, but it's sure

that I talk to the point of dancers, or in case, when there's an interaction that's more

prolonged and that pass by the mall. And I think there's a lot people who are people who are also other

things, the other things, the other things, but there's also a rapport with the regular they're, there's a

aspect kind of therapeutic. Is you know Julian de Medeiros? No. No, okay. I'm an infolette

of Julianne Medeiros, who is a sort of creator of content philosoph, And at a moment a minute, he has

talked to the rapport to agents conversational like of a form of masturbation mental, a simulation

of exchange or a simulacre of care. He compares the manner on the addiction to pornography and the addiction

to chatbutt. The most people see the pornography like something of something of a good of

a newmure that offer a solnagement momentaned but without a lot of people see the

chatbut as an tool to learn to learn the new new things and it

would a usage prolonged, which is sometimes that's quite constant, that liberate just a little of dopamine, but on the long period. There are many

who consider that the addiction is not really an addiction, because an addiction is something something of something of something that's like the companies

of cigarettes in the beginning of cigarettes, who did it had the property medicinal on cigarette, and that it was not really addictive because

it was not newisible. But Julian de Medeiros explains that a good idea of what's a mechanism in the interaction

with the chat butt. The person has an impression that's nourished of information, which is not very viable, but it's not the point here, but in fact

it's the interaction in the platform that's addictive, it's the form, it's not the content that's researched, and the platforms are conceived for

that the attention be maintained, and that the user's convinced that the bot-veyeye's own the same genre of the attention than the content

pornographic, the sense where the person to masturbate intellectually in a genre of in a chamber close.

Like in the porn, there's no confrontation, there's not there's no opposition or of Cooper or pleasure. It's these mechanisms

that rappelts of desublimation repressive of Marcus, a other philosoph. Oh, my God. What?

In general, the desublimation repressive, it's the fact to be in prison by what it is a voice of liberation.

That even even in more free with the chat butt, it would be the contrary that's produced. Also,

the AI is addictive because she enter in harmony with a rationalization of what is advantageous for us

the idea are the service of what it's materially, in this way. And then, and all the universe symbolic of a person is constructed around of this form of auto-preservation.

D'uble to believe to his intelligence superior, and to link that has the possibility to become a millionaire rapidly. Like a workoess of sex, the company, the agent conversationalal,

has interest to the user's a cro to their services for these reasons financial. The two utilize these strategies for be the more agreeable possible,

to generate the dopamine and fornire a form of being able to the person for that they want to continue the exchange. But, well, first, it's more to support economically of the workers of sex than Dengage with these great companies that destroys the world. The sales pitch of the IA is democratized the access to have to power, but in verity, it's only an illusion of empowerment, where the capital is always more and more accaparied by the more rich. The work of sex, it's one of

the rare activity where the money goes, generally, through up, over the bottom. In plus of that, there is an exchange veritable with the workers of sex, and it's exceed completely what an intelligence artificial can offer. There's the

other who is vivant, that's a visual, a change of a change of sensibility that will

heal more than a form of simulocry of care. I don't the addiction malseigne to sex

exist not. It's that it can be there's some people, there's a client who

there's even when it's the case, there's there's kind of more more of more than

the client be able by a form of alterity that he sort of of his

representations habitual, rather than to rest be prisonier of a spiral nephrotic with Chad GPT. There's also

poor of chance that a person that's used in contact with these paradigues that are subversive, who come bolversive,

because the chat bots are programmed to defend their d'etabli. It's what Naomi Klein called the reason fascist,

who is completely abogle to all the legimony dominant. And in this logic, the I,

it's a tool that is quite important on service the reason fascist. There also totally

of the Traveyorcex fascist and ultra capitalists or even you're in

a time of sex, you're in a client anti-fascist it's a alterity quite interesting, you know,

the client? Yeah, like, let's come, to have a guy that you partage not

the values, the politics but there like a kind of the order of the vulnerability,

you know, completely even for, you know, in my experience, in the obviously,

it's definitely, But there are some where it's very that I'm an impression of the point they're in the

question what they think what he thinks, and it's me just strategicallyically, I'm like, I'm doing

I'm in the empathy for you know, and I think there would have a possibility to be to be a

bit of some way, there's a time. There's also totally, there's a problem, they're in

a position of marginalization who they they're to criticize to create their established. It's a

quote of Gino Mack and Molly Smith in a leaf called Revolting Frustitutes where it says,

It takes about two minutes to politicize a hooker. And it's true that in general, the fact that we have often

have often of the conditions of writing decrycent, that's actually to use an empathy for relationing, like what we say,

it's so it's often more of things to learn to learn to also understand that we can

also understand that we can all all our clients, and it's not really our responsibility, no more, it's sure that when we can, at the most permit, we'll have a tendency to to be more myro-ta, and we're not in the chemm subversive, do all.

Ultimately, it's like that you gain your life, so you have to have a good, you, you know, you're not going to put in your client. Exactly, and it's right, you know, the most you're trying to,

try to avoid the subjects more show or political, or, you know, that would mean to a form of dispute, dispute, or, if we're a little confirm what their person

thinks. But I think that even if it's still it's still more possible to plant some to plant some

that's an service that's more alienant, like that chat GPT, it's it's worth

when the interaction deplets to clients, if we say, if we're saying it's

a lot, it's, it's can't can't even, I'm generate something because the

contraryity is essential to development of the conscience and the transformation. I want just that it's clear that I'm not in trying to say that it's revolutionary to have a recour in the industry of sex, and that it's not not necessarily transformateur for the usager, but there's

more of chance than it's a lot than addict on chatbot, I mean, but I have the impression also that the traveler of sex exists, but in the visage, like, a little bit phantasmagoric of several guys in tech, it would create the ultimate robosexual, who'd do not to pay it. Yeah, of two, justly, there's no responsibility on this thing,

and then you can do you know, so that you can do you do with these pulsions, like these pulsions like hegemonique, and it's that, they're justly,

they're just turned more over the chat, but because it's that that that's the that's the answer more to be able to meet and

they're still, there's kind of there's more the chance that that it's perhaps they start to their psychos of

egocentrism. I've got a client conservative or apolitic, and we talk sometimes long time, long time, and I'd probably not say if I'd be paid. And it's been a phenomenon strange, or when

someone's desire, it will be more open to to do, and I'm and I doce, and I'm also an effort for to say more more, and it happens that

this exposition to the discourse they transform a little, even if I'd go through I'm doing not that's a good affair,

which is this hierarchy that of the discourse, like in our family, like, the people will potentially be more open to what we say, it's a different, but, like, in general, we say, in the activism, if you can't transform the members of your family,

like, what's you do, what you do, it's like, that's the sort of, the best, because the people would have, kind, of a sweet spot, like, in general. But there are some contexts, like, there,

there's more of transformation political or radical that can be in a space private, like, a cuisine, that, let's on the street or in an space

hyper public at the TV if I saw a discourse because there's something in the affect of these

places in the rapport corporal, if you flatt if you touch to someone, you'll be more of the

impact also at the level of the discourse. Exactly and then a strip club or the

work of sex in general is a simulation of the space private so it so it's

so it's so they're more they're more they're they're they're I think it's a moment

intimate. There's a lot of the visors, the visage, if we're in, the eyes, the mouth. But there are

also who come just for objectify and it's sure that we're like of certain type of, yeah,

it's true, but, you know, so, so, so, so, if you feel you're kind of

more to go to go to the real world, rather than having a fake discussion

masturbatory with the intelligence artificial, but not, you, not go, not necessarily

not necessarily, not necessarily, just a person. And I think So, instead of say go touch grass, we could say go see a face. Go touch a face. Go touch a face. I'm going to enceinning with my segment,

that I'm named pangramed, for far reference to the tool of detection of text IA, so pengram. I'm not, pangram. I also, I'll say, to be a lot of thing Orillian who securred,

like I said, in my coin of the internet. And then, I don't know if I'm obliged to re-fair the topo, but, you know, he has published a moment, it's out at Boreal, it's parrised, it's parruth, the rights of traduction had been sold, you know,

a little part of, he's on list for the grand prix literary, and all, so, so, he was at the

front plan of this entry literary, and then, boom, I think there, crystallized a artist of

all the same personality public, or in the sense when it's going to be things, and you're,

you know, when you're, when you're, you're doing, you're, you're doing, personally, we'd say that you just envisaged the chute. So, we anticipate, and it's that the moment

where all the putte, and the more we're up, the more we say that the debarck will do. There's two things in his story. First, we've, we've had accused, or we've made peser these soupsons like he would have generated his book by the intelligence artificial. In a second time, one time that he had

the suspicions that paced on him, we've seen as he had comey the plagiar. So, there's a lot of paragraphs of things that had written in the past that had been plagued.

But that's really for me a other dossier, and it's not really that's that I'm really bad

during the entrice, plagier, why, why would you write? It was for plagier, I don't know,

but it's not really that the subject of my segment. All right all comes with some

accusations where we say that his book had potentially been generated by LIA,

it's a simple a new account on X, a account anonymous that's called Balance Tone Claude who affirmed that after having passed his book in the tool of detection

p.gram, there's almost 100% apparently of the book that would be generated by LIA. And even if this account

there, it's completely nowhere, this tweet, it's made rapidly by these gross cont cont

conservative that had kind of an amplitude mediatic, and that it's like made

the story has been reprised in mass in the media. And that I think

it's also a indicator of the the state actual of the media. You know, how it's it's how it's so much history there as to be who is this congey is that, and in which

measure is there's not, you know, it's a idea that's a new deal. And there's there still many other newveling on the intelligence artificial that could probably sulever a really more grand. I think there's an

in Lye's So Roche, the count that's parted the affair, balance your clod. You're going to consulte and I think that he's card or he's made in scene,

a bit like a kind of police or of vigilante in English. It's like if we were now, we're part of a culture of the doubt that's like the deletion. You know, we can't not be able to be able to

we combat on the pollution of the field of actuality. So, they use pollution for denounce a. AI slopper, identify the us to know our post or envoying us

our DM, we're inquieter. It's like the police in the phone. It's a true crime. It's true crime, it's a policeier. And then it's also

a fantasson of style law and order in the crinno true crime where we have the impression that the police is there for re-establish the the program is there for re-tablish the word

for demel the right of the foe for say yes or no it's been made or no it's been made the phaism that a percentage of foestate could be generated I'm going to submit my live at pangramm we'll be to say how many

percentage is synthetic VS authentic we're we're doing these chifes we're entomored of chifes, I'm often talking to coffee snitch that's the number of abon, of LIS,

all the metrics that we find out of the resources, because the Chiff, it's, it's, it's, it's, it

gives the impression to know the real, to be able to know it, to percy the incognessable. It's like

an illusion of scientificity. Also, yeah. You know, that's that, and for me, the literature also, it's bizarre,

like quantified in virtue of the authentic synthetic, because one, we can, you by what we've been traversed, the relations we have, the discussions that we can have, let's see, you know, you're gonna someone in the cadre of your work, and if it's

inspired, is, is you there possess, this discussion, this experience that is always partaged? We've written, also with the texts we've read, the, the, of the works that made, you know, just to go see, in IMAX, recently, and I went on probably, evenually, in the cafe Snake. The Epiomper, Omerex, is, just the descendant of an tradition of epic, that's a plenty of parallel, by example, in mind, so there's

there's a inspiration and there's a question of course, but is a tradition that's that's a really,

yeah, it's the reproduction, it was part of the construction of the book. Exactly.

For revenue, to bring to your account, there's there's a account, there'd there'd

many people, there's someone, Namemann, Samuel, Fitt also, who is a chronicer,

quite quite quite quite from Figuero, so there also, it's an entrepreneur who is an

an investor in I, So there's like, there's like, to put the up to the technology of style pangram,

there's a there's a thing that's a thing you're there's a lot to say, but the fact of having singled out

this romancey that's from the diaspora Aisien, while that his book talks, you know,

that's just of a parkour of course, I think, there's a problem that can't not make

that you know, I'm just, like, you know, like the counter has been like the

person, I'm the profile, and the Revenants to the name, balance your clode, it's echo, it, balance your port. It's a rappel, me also, but now we're in a culture of the defiance. It's like if we replaced the idea of the power of a woman, we do to feel the confidence, we do it, so, the confidence, because, you know, when a woman

when a woman denounce, by example, a violence sexual, well, they have all to lose, nothing to gain. So, it's for that we're going to listen. But, here, we're in a denunciation that is, to the other bar. There's no pressure. It's an tool, it's a technology,

it's pangram. We have before us a percentage disincarnate that's like a cut in a

person who is responsible of the this is a machine. We don't know what the intentions

behind the account that was published that. He will precise a bit

these intentions in the media in Fittusi and he he's present

really like an kind of a person for so over the writing

the Contre the menace of the IA, counter the fact that that now we're submerged of text generated by LIA. He says that he redoubt that after several millennaires, I recit

of civilization fonded on the book, the idea the creation, the literature. So, so for preserve

the incitations to write in this new world, I cite always, it would that the

people can know if they have to have to text of a human or of a robot.

And that's why I chiri, so the existence of Pondgram. But that's even not fiable. And there's an study of Stanford

that has seen that the detectors of the AI will say that a text human has been written by

the occurrence. It's enormous when the range of error. And that the best for pass

the test for that they say it's human, it's like to demand to chat GPT

to re-ecre to re-elect to the air the most human possible. It's really

like a case also of technos solutionism, the nonsense where we insert, create a technology that creates a problem,

by example, LIAA, and then we'll reintroduer an other technology that will pretend to regulate the problem that we've created. And there, you know, it's not too

that's dupe in the media, by example, that I've seen a good paper in Telerama and he sullinied that in the

discourse of Samuel Fittusi, who said, that, we had to a professional of the I had proposed a

remade technological to a crisis that his own industry had precipitated. And the tools of detection like pangram, would be the condition of the

wreaths. And it's not new, because I'm I've often said, the giant of the tech, they've got all interate to broil the frontiers between the human and the machine. Just intelligence artificial, just the metaphor that we employ,

the species of metaphor paraphrie, for to talk of different sorts of technology, it's a way to brooky the cards, to brouye the frontiers between the humans and the

technology. And it's true that the role that the fact that the culture or the art, the creation artistic, if we consider that it's jailed, the intelligence artificial, it's pertinent, I understand why. But that, as a tool of investigation, it's all right, so it's like this double discourse. The police, it's correct if it's a... Yeah, it's so, but it's a lot, it's about what the essence of the police. And it's a direct, like, Sam Houtman and deemose CEO of the Open and the company that

CHAG-GPT. He has founded also an other company who's called Tools for Humanity, it's a startup, and they have a product that has tried really to commercialize from 2019, that has made a little bit, which is called WorldRID. And it's a little like dystopic, it's these spheres

blanche that make a little everywhere in the world. And these spheres, there, you know, you can't your face, and your wrist, your eye with, and in the front, it's all the data biometric,

and it's a lot of proof of identity human, a new tool of surveillance that would would be in the fact

would be able to it's a commercial and it in a context where they say, we're in more entoured

to deep fake, of robots in an space or an environment where the AI

pulule, we have been to prove our humanity. So it's really of

technology of the part of the guy who participate just to the

kind of the proliferation of the problem, what you mean to say the power

ultimate today would be but perhaps in the hyper-reality really, to be able to departage the real, do you know, but is it really

a power that's human? Well, it's impossible with the tool and without the tool. Impossible, because in the real, in our reality,

the real, it's a mix of false and of right. Exactly, yeah, also, we have not time to mention that in the

media that the media that deco- but the history is repented in fact, because, I had

seen in the media in the media Anglo-Sachson or a polemic similar, where there auteur

of Trinidad, a muster of 62-year, not-known. It's called Jamir Nazir, who had gained like a grand prize for his new a grand prix, a grand prix, it was the

Commonwealth Shirt Stormy Prize. And then, a few days after having won't get these price there, there, there,

there had passed his novel in Pongram, and then, it had scored 100% like what it had been generated

by I and there had plenty of chronicer who had been the rizier of the internet, the poor would never nazir these phrases,

we'd sort these phrases of their context, and we'd, it's been made, it's been a meme, because we were, clearly, it's issued

of a robot, you know, and finally, the plea had had been to have these brouions, several versions of his text,

because when we've written, you know, the text on the field of the lectures and the modifications,

they'd be he'd he'd be he he'd write. It's true that, you know, in the world in the case, when we

when we talk of sexual, there's kind of a presumption of innocence, so, while there, there's a presumption of culpability.

Exactly. It's an author of Trindade where I think he's called Creole there, but the language official, it's

the English. And what's interesting at that is that, according to Stanford, which I'm

there's a more of chance to flagged the text as being generated by YAC when they're

written in English, but the English is not necessarily at a long primary. It's made

think to a test And then I think not that it's appellate in the case of Tillyson Aureling

but kind of it's interesting. A test of Marcus Olin who's called I'm Kenyan so I'm Cennia

I don't write like Chad GPD I'm not like Chad GPT it's just it's a fact of I've seen

I've seen in the notes it's super interesting because he said, well, yeah, it's

not there's not the artite of the truth and it's really specific of a point

of a point of cultural technological, and in fact he explained that at Kenya, you're really an education very, very formal, for to learn English,

an examin super important that you have passed, and it's the redaction of a text, and you're prepared immensely for that, and you're trying to conforming to a way to write very, very, very, very, very formal. It's, it's, it's,

all your life. And so, the language that you talk or that's written when you're from Kenya, it's not the English, like, if you're to live in New York, it's really a English

that's really a word of and it's that just the IA she's trained with with the

writing, so often the corpus of text that's extremely formal so that so that

if you write a you write a cause of a context perhaps social

linguistic or cultural or geographical you have been you have to be having

it's interesting and it makes to I'm why the long tirade have been integrated in in all that it's not so much, like,

like, current. It's not so, it's not so much the time of the part of the genre, and you just a algorithm, and you can't like the way of all the people's going to condense in a point, like, I don't think that there had been

there's been programmed. No, it's just in the papy, just a university, you, and, you know, and, just, it's, perhaps this corpus of text that that is preponderant in the material of entrainment.

He'd say, well, So the English that we were the ensigned an language that was a language that

is constantly in fluctuation plenty of words of slang or abbreviation it's really the language

of the function public, of the administrator colonial, the missionaire of the master,

it was the language of the Bible, of Shakespeare, of the law, so it

was an tool of power and it's that we were that we were

that we're And a other reflection interesting, is that I had consumed at the time of the kind of polemic about the text that had gained the price, the Commonwealth, so even not the polemic that we've traversed in this moment. It's the take of Max Reed, so chronicer, Killsoreb, that I like much, who said to the place preponderance or the consigne of redaction in our practices of writing, especially if we use Liat. And he thought, justly, that the novel of Jamir Nassie,

Nazir had been written by LIA. He was interpolled by the idea that, finally, he, the text that would really want to see, the conversation between the scribein, Jamir Nazir, it's Proms, so it's consigne of redaction, and the

response of the chatbot. He said that would be a fiction more interesting. He said also that we have tend to consider the prompts as something of something of

something that's almost to jetable, which is necessary to the production of a result that, is he, more important, while for him, Max Reed,

he considers that the prums have a great value in their same, and that perhaps maybe that eventually the

prums are more more than the result that is generated by the I. So, the consign of redactions.

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