café snake - RIP beaucoup de choses [Extrait Patreon]

Episode Date: January 21, 2025

Notre Patreon : patreon.com/cafesnake On aborde les changements à la programmation de RDI pour 2025 et les deuils collectifs numériques +++ Elon faux gamer fiasco, débat à droite au Québec et RI...P Cherry Blossom

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, I'm Daphne. I forgot I was watching a North American movie about a bear. I was really frustrated. I said I don't watch that movie. It's coffee snake. Hello, I'm Daphne. I forgot I was watching a North American movie about a bear. I was really frustrated.
Starting point is 00:00:10 I said I don't watch that movie. It's coffee snake. Hello, I'm Daphne. I forgot I was watching a North American movie about a bear. I was really frustrated. I said I don't watch that movie. It's coffee snake. Hello, I'm Daphne.
Starting point is 00:00:18 I forgot I was watching a North American movie about a bear. I was really frustrated. I said I don't watch that movie. It's coffee snake. Hello, I'm Daphne. I forgot I was watching a North American movie about a bear. I was really frustrated. I said I don't watch that movie. It's coffee snake. Hello, I'm Daphne. I forgot I was watching a North American movie about a bear. Hello everyone! Hello!
Starting point is 00:00:30 Welcome to the 26th episode of Café Sneak. Yes, a special episode that is available entirely on Patreon. Patreon.com baroblic Café Sneak. Thank you to everyone who listens, to all the people who have been joining the Café Sneak thread for the past few weeks. Just to remind you to leave 5 stars on Spotify and Apple and share Coffee Snake. Munir, what are you going to talk about today?
Starting point is 00:00:51 Today, we're going to talk about the change in the programming of the Radio-Canada information network, RDI. They decided to extend their Zones Info broadcasts live with Patrice Roy from Une Heure. Talk about what this change means in the world of news. You, Daphne, what are you going to talk about today? My segment I'm going to call the Requiem of all, so it's about mourning,
Starting point is 00:01:09 as I said, human drama, human suffering, especially on my TikTok For You page, and I'm going to put that in parallel with the collective mourning of TikTok. Without further ado, the DigiNews. The CEOs are killing our futures. They don't care about anything but light in their own pockets. Energy has been a lifelong passion of mine. This is here. LA is burning. It's because of what we do.
Starting point is 00:01:52 We use big oil planters. Criminal. 300 reporters in Gaza were on the receiving end of your bombs. Why did you keep the bombs flowing when we had a deal with the NED? I'm happy to address the questions. We all knew we had a deal. Everyone in this room knows we had a deal, Tony. You kept the bombs flowing.
Starting point is 00:02:00 I'm happy to address the questions. Why did you keep the bombs flowing when we had a deal with the NED? I'm happy to address the questions. We all knew we had a deal. Everyone in this room knows we had a deal, Tony. You kept the bombs flowing. I'm happy to address the questions. Why did you keep the bombs flowing when we had a deal with them? We all knew we had a deal. Everyone in this room knows we had a deal, Tony. You kept the bombs flowing. Why did you sacrifice the rules-based order on the mantle of your commitment to Zionist order? Why did you allow my friends to be massacred? Why did you allow my friends to be massacred?
Starting point is 00:02:39 And remember, TikTok is largely about kids. If China's going to get information about young kids. Friends, let's eat ice cream together. Don't care about the injuries. Now I want to know who buys this. Who eats this? Who thinks, hey I really want a little cherry blossom. But yeah, but nobody eats this. And nobody eats this. And the design hasn't changed. In 1988, it was the same little box. But yeah, it doesn't have a good feel. It's... No. Hershey Canada. There is obviously no information. There is even no Instagram.
Starting point is 00:03:22 We just heard an excerpt from my favorite test, from the creator of Quebec content, Antoine B. Côté. I had already talked to him in an article for the press, and there he tasted a cherry blossom. And I put that to highlight the end of this friandise that existed for almost 150 years, and that was even made in Quebec for a while in a factory in Sherbrooke.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Last week, Hershey Canada confirmed that they were going to stop the production of Cherry Blossom, which is considered a Canadian classic. This news, we have shocked more than one. In a full article on Inch that I read yesterday on the site of the newspaper of Montreal, we wrote in particular that this sad news does not come alone since the filmmaker David Lynch has known the same sad ending as Cherry Blossom on January 16. So, Cherry Blossom and David Lynch, same fight. I've been David Lynch's daughter, I'm often a big fan of Cherry Blossom. Yeah, by the way, me and Munir, we decided that we were going to re-watch
Starting point is 00:04:19 the first season of Twin Peaks in tribute to David Lynch, if there are people who are interested. I laugh, but they also produced a reportage, the Journal de Montréal, in which they interview Luc Dupont, who is a professor in the Department of Communication at the University of Ottawa to comment on the spread of cherry blossoms. I found it funny when I saw that because it's been a while since I said or talked about it, I mean, there's a problem of expertise in the media. I think that's a good example. Why would a professor of communication in university have something to say about the
Starting point is 00:04:49 disappearance of a chocolate? I think how it often works is maybe he made a Facebook status because he's a fan of Cherry Blossom, then a journalist saw it and contacted him and said, Hey, do you want to come and talk about it on TV? We have no one to talk about it. I think that's probably how it happened. I don't know if it's something new, but I think it's a relief that on social media, there are really experts who express themselves on a range of topics,
Starting point is 00:05:12 whether it's about topics that have expertise. And I think that maybe when we see that in the media, we're like, you know, it's a little weird. I'm going to describe the cherry blossom. Composed of a cherry at the Marasquque and a cherry syrup surrounded by a chocolate mixture, grated coconut and pieces of peanuts. Obviously, the candy we know was individually wrapped in small yellow pieces. We remember it because, for me, it's the very retro packaging of the Cherry Blossom that I'm going to miss. A package that was polarizing, they say that because of a kind of over-the-season graphism, a yellow design that remained unchanged over the years, that's exactly what made this frieze stand out. The package was the
Starting point is 00:05:55 clear expression of a certain anachronism, in the sense that this frieze didn't try to adapt to the trends, but it's just that it creates a kind of permanent defeat, of unchanging in a world that otherwise changes at a high speed. I don't know why, but I have the impression that the fact that it didn't change over the years, since I was little, it never changed, there was something reassuring behind it. As if the Cherry Blossoms were a cultural pillar, the disappearance of this fear, for me, it causes a form of loss of track. Even for people who didn't consume cherry blossoms, there is a certain mourning to be done. I have the impression that we are collectively grieved. And I would say that in a capitalist world
Starting point is 00:06:36 where products are constantly becoming more and more personalized, they are always adapting to the speed and the tendency of the day. We can even think about fashion, how it would change since I was a teenager. Now it's fast fashion, it's something that's linked to the algorithms. Even the big fashion stores at the time where I was like in my early twenties, like Zara, are experiencing problems because they are not able to adapt as fast as companies like China or Timmu. For me, the Cherry Blossom stood out by its non-adaptation. And it's kind of the equivalent, as we talked about in the previous episode, of a kind of billionaire CEO in Audi who tells us, I don't care about my
Starting point is 00:07:15 dress because finally choosing my clothes is a waste of time. And that time, I want to spend it saving the world, in short. As if the aesthetic choice of packaging released a disinterested posture, and through that disinterest, we felt that it had an authenticity. As if the candy didn't really want us to eat it. And I think it's also a paradox, maybe you're going to blame me for pushing too much,
Starting point is 00:07:41 digging, etc. But for me, the packaging is also really erotic, because I find that there is something that is most uncanny in this yellow packaging, it's the photo of the candy, which doesn't necessarily look appetizing, even in terms of colors, textures. There is something organic in that, we have the impression of literally seeing an organ opened in two. I asked you to describe the image to me yesterday and you immediately told me blood. Oh my God, it's going to be sticky everywhere on my desk.
Starting point is 00:08:16 What a mistake. It's jittery. I feel like I'm in front of a gurgling sexual organ, something that looks like either body fluids, the blood, but even poop. So yeah, there's something a little bit alternative, a strange canine in this photo of chocolate cut in half. By the way, I did research yesterday about sugar and I learned that the fact that it's as fluid or gushing inside,
Starting point is 00:08:44 it's not that we inject a liquid inside the fact that it's as fluid or dripping inside, it's not that we inject a liquid inside, but really, it's thanks to an enzyme that is part of the sugar paste that the cherry is coated with. This enzyme called L'invertase will liquefy the paste, but it will take about two weeks before this process is completed. Now, I look like I'm saying anything, but cherry is a sexual symbol. It's associated with virginity since at least the Renaissance. There's an expression that says
Starting point is 00:09:12 popping the cherry is linked to losing its virginity. On this subject, virginity, I wanted to put an excerpt from the famous communication expert who commands the disappearance of chocolate. Chocolate is often the first purchase we make alone. That is to say, we were young, we were 5, we were 6, we went to the tabagy,
Starting point is 00:09:31 dad, mom gave us $1 or $2 and there we made the purchase like that, of a first chocolate tablet. So in the case of Cherry Blossom, it's written there. It was not only among the first ones we bought because it was also a little special in a box, not a tablet, but a box, at the time when we found a cherry. I wanted to talk about a debate that has been ongoing on the internet for several weeks, but which culminated this week, I have the impression. It's the confrontation that we
Starting point is 00:10:00 could say between the right-wing conservatist Quebecois and the right-wing nationalist This week, I say she culminated because the leader of the Quebec party, Paul Saint-Pierre Plamondon, went to the ballad Yann et Frank, which is available on YouTube. And Mathieu Bocoté went to make an episode of Jeff Filion's radio pirate. It was a debate with one of their collaborators, Jonathan Hamel. Paul Saint-Pierre Plamond We went to the podcast of the animalists, who are people who call it the right to pirate, but it's a daily podcast that makes a news report. It's filmed on Zoom, it's filmed remotely, they don't really have a studio. The right, let's say, conservative, is against the project of sovereignty.
Starting point is 00:10:38 They still have a resentment against the quest for emancipation of the Quebecois people, which they judge as being, and we can put an extract of Jonathan Hamel, who judges that it's a gang trip, an organized trip. To have the levers of power during the first years, in addition to thinking about history, what you voluntarily want to do, it's a bit like that. It's a life project, and you said it, it's something that instills a certain creativity.
Starting point is 00:10:59 In fact, it's a thing, it's a kind of social club, your story. It's a kind of gang trip. You're going to name your friends ambassadors, all that. And I was saying, it's still a career project for people like PSPP who didn't do very well in the world. At that moment, you become mediocre. At that moment, the conversation theoretically should stop because you're no longer on the subject of arguments.
Starting point is 00:11:19 You put in a situation... No, it's arguments. It's arguments. No, it's not arguments. No, but Mr. Bocoté, it's still carried by people who are deeply impressive. You're not yourself in the shoes of the people? No, no, no, no, no, no! No, it's arguments! It's arguments! No, it's not arguments! No, but sir, my side is still carried by people who are deeply in the impression point! You're not going to say... Well, why are you taking me? But why are you taking me? No, but...
Starting point is 00:11:32 So that's how they qualify the Quebec sovereignty project. The PQ has a really growing interest in trying to convert this political fringe from Quebec and is really able to educate his speech for their own pleasure. Whereas the left-wing electorate would never go to this kind of seduction operation to seduce the left-wing electorate. They take it a little de facto that they will vote yes to the left-wing people in Quebec. Whereas the point that often comes back to the left-wing people I'm talking about is, if I do sovereignty, I do it with Mathieu Boccote, you really want to associate yourself with him? Why become independent? Why become a country when we feel that our country is populated,
Starting point is 00:12:12 crossed by xenophobia, by intolerance? I don't want it to be my country. My answer to that is that it is already the case. I see the future more as being about self-determination and the kind of achievement of a story that hasn't even started for real. It's more philosophical. For me, the position for the independence of Quebec is more philosophical and emotional than political. I think that's what the so-called conservative right is against. For them, the idea of a social momentum is not something attractive. They just want to be presented with an economic case, and a case for their individual freedom and a constitution. They are fully rooted in the material reality of a Quebec country,
Starting point is 00:12:49 not in the emotional, social, cultural reality. It doesn't even interest them because they also developed a resentment for Quebec's cultural institutions because of the pandemic. They don't even want to imagine the Quebec culture flourishing. For real, the debate between Yann and Frank and Paul Sperpallandon was really courteous and interesting. They kept giving each other a hard time because they were able to communicate with someone who disagreed.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I think Paul Sperpallandon answered their questions about the institutional control of the media financed by the government. When Paul SperpallP. gave them an answer, they had nothing to say. When they said, I don't think it's a bad thing that there's public funding for the media.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Frank would have been shocked, but they really seemed to understand their answer. I think that's what their audience was blaming them for. But contrary to the debate between Mathieu Bocoté, Jeff Filion, Jonathan Hamel, and the whole Radio Pirate ecosystem that was really explosive, I'll put some extracts
Starting point is 00:13:49 I'll let you ask for the Quebecers I'll let you ask for the Quebecers Not the Quebecers, Mathieu Bocoté, a certain part of the Quebecers who have a fantasy vision you just want to change your shirt you want to change your shirt, it will give you a life record it's your life goal you want a referendum, you want to change your shirt, it will give you a life plan. It's your life goal. You want a referendum, you want to be a winner.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I don't let you define my life style, my life goal. I lead my life very well, I'm very happy, it suits me. So I don't allow you to do that. Either you answer the arguments and it happens, or we shorten the conversation. By the way, you weren't prepared if I could allow myself to do the exchange. And if I was announced that you were in the exchange, I would have probably refused because I don't respect you.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Well, because... It really was personal attacks. Jonathan Hamel, a crypto bro, crypto pioneer in Quebec, who says that Paul C. Perlandon is mediocre, that everyone around him is mediocre. And then Mathieu Bocquotet who would say, well, who are you taking for? He's so prudent,
Starting point is 00:14:44 Mathieu Bocquotet, that his way of insulting someone is like I would have had to admit that I don't respect you. So it's really funny. I don't know why, but rude would never have been the qualifier I would have given. Yeah, so that's it. I find it interesting. This debate started on Twitter and ended here on these podcasts.
Starting point is 00:15:03 It happened the same week that Pierre Poliev wrote a letter to Paul Saint-Pierre Plamondon. Both of them had long exchanges on Twitter. Elon Musk is not the one who piloted his Path of Exile 2 account to the top of the leaderboard. So our last DigiNews was the kind of quarrel that happened this week between Elon Musk and the real gamers. The sweats. The sweats. It's the people who sweat in games. It means the people who are really into gaming. Ok, interesting, I didn't know. So what happened? Elon Musk has been saying for several months that he's one of the best video game players
Starting point is 00:15:48 in the world. In his last podcast, Jorgen's Ballad, he said he was in the top 20, or I think top 50 of the Diablo 4 game. Do you want to tell everybody your handle? No, don't tell them. It's not worth it. They actually listed me with my actual name in their list. Oh, did they really? Oh, interesting. But, yeah, there's only two Americans in the top 20. The rest, almost everyone is a formation. It went a little bit too far. People like me say that.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Elon is a gamer and whatever. I thought it was interesting because it shows how much Elon wants to be accepted by a network. Elon will post memes with Pepe the Frog, or he will write Keke who is a sling from World of Warcraft. He tries to make it look like he's part of this subculture of the internet, and he really wants him to accept it. It often comes back in the reports, or in any case, all kinds of articles, that I read, from technocritical reporters, or even from the web culture,
Starting point is 00:16:52 who talk about this desire, like Musk, to be loved, to be accepted, this desire that is ultimately playing a little against him. Because especially that what happened is that Diablo, it didn't necessarily arouse respect as a gamer in this community. So he chose to say that he's in the top 30 in the world in a game called Path of Exile 2, which is an extremely complicated RPG that requires a lot of hours of play. And he shows his account and his account... Basically, he livestreamed himself playing this game. Exactly. And then people finally had access to his account,
Starting point is 00:17:26 they saw what level he was at, what kind of weapons he had in his safe. And just how he was navigating the game. Yeah. It's a game with a very niche culture. I didn't even know it was like Daddy Path of Exile 2. There's a YouTuber called Quinn who made a video exposed where he shows point by point why Elon is not the one who played in this account
Starting point is 00:17:46 and who probably hired someone on an asian server to build his account. That's the theory. that's permanent death mode, trade league. Let me try to give you a quick understanding as to how hard it is to get to that level. Two weeks into the league, when people are playing the game, literally they're staying up 40 to 50 hours without sleeping, only playing part of exile, and they are the most try-hard guys in the world. The highest ranked player on the hardcore trade league was level 93. Okay, and you're thinking about yourself, that's kind of close to 97.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Every time you level it up, it becomes exponentially harder to gain experience. A lot harder and a lot harder. Okay, so these players, to get to 97, have to be playing the game every day for the majority of their day. All those who play this game, who are supposed to be super complicated, say that it doesn't take their heads off, as they say, to understand right away, in a really explicit way, that Musk is not behind this tale. Exactly, because he shows...
Starting point is 00:18:53 That it's a fume story, and that it's finally a bit like his process of self-mythologization was fading. And that's because he puts in comparison the other tales that are even a little lower than the one they have, and they show the game time that it took because the season has just started. These games often work with seasons, so the ranking is really temporary. So you can see, it's been two or three weeks since the season started, and you can see people who are ranked a little below him, who all streamed their grind, and who had to stream and play 20 hours a day, 15 hours a day. It's like a level you reach only if that's your lifestyle, to play 24 hours a day
Starting point is 00:19:33 at the game while eating Cheetos. Exactly. And just by the fact that he tweets 150 times a day, it's impossible. And then it culminated with him streaming while playing who moves around in the game like an old person. There's something about those gamers... You're old. No, but I mean, the web navigation, you see it when someone... Super clumsy. Yeah, it's efficient. Gamers, there's something about it when you're at that level,
Starting point is 00:20:01 it's that every movement, every shortcut... It's a caddify. ... you took to save time, you're in efficiency. And he clearly didn't. When it was revealed to the public, several streamers in the gaming world made videos. PenguinZio, one of the biggest commentary channels in the gaming world. Asmongold, one of the biggest streamers in World of Warcraft, just video games in general. They made videos in reaction to the video that was posted. They denounced Elon Musk and his lies.
Starting point is 00:20:28 And it really didn't go through the community, it became the laughing stock of the gaming community. Elon even attacked Asmongold where he treated fake gamers as controlled by his editors. A sphere of the internet that I'm happy that he finally sees sees through the game of Ilan. What does this community of gamers want? It's not that they say you're the best in the world in video games. That's what he says to Asmongold in one of his videos. We just want you to play the game. If you play the game, for us, we relate.
Starting point is 00:20:57 So you don't need to win, you have to participate. You have to genuinely have a desire to play. You like to play video games. It comes back to love. That's it! So the mask falls a little. Do you think it will have an impact on his influence? I don't think so. After that, we saw on Twitter, his ex, the Canadian singer Grimes, tweeted in his favor to support him in that. I read a translation but it said, just for my personal pride, I would like to say that the father of my children
Starting point is 00:21:30 was the first American druid of Diablo to defeat the Abattoir of Zyr and ended this season I would understand when I say that, and ended this season as the best in the United States. He was also placed in Polytopia and beat Felix himself in this game. So Felix is apparently the creator of Polytopia. There she continues, I observed these things from my own eyes. There are other witnesses who can confirm it. That's all. I read some tweets that responded to Grimes' intervention. Imagine in 2010 someone told you that in 2025, we'd have a prominent musical artist coming to the defense of the world's richest man, who is also a primary figure in the recent presidential election and White House, to defend his honor by vouching for his efficacy in playing a
Starting point is 00:22:19 video game. Interesting times. For real. For a long time, Musk made all kinds of false, real statements, really built his personal myth. And the problem with that is that a lot of traditional media journalists have relayed, that is to say that they gave him a lot of attention without the kind of critical distance, the critical report that must be part of the journalism. And there we see the files of a person, but we could have seen those files 10 years ago. If we really analyzed all those sayings or actions with a critical distance.
Starting point is 00:22:56 So that's all for the DG News. That was the free part of the Coffee Snake episode. To listen to the rest of the episode, you can subscribe to patreon.com or to cafe snake. Absolutely! See you next time!

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