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what is up daddy gang it is your single father alex cooper with call her daddy
daddy motherfucking gang what is up it is your founding father for not another episode of call her daddy but the 100th fucking episode of call her mother
fucking daddy how the hell are you guys doing today it's a good fucking day daddy gang i put
a lot of thought into this episode because i really wasn't sure who is worthy to sit across from me on this beloved episode.
I heard the daddy gang and everyone's like, oh my God, we have to.
It's the 100th episode.
This is amazing.
Let's celebrate.
And I'm like, who the fuck would I have on this episode?
And then I realized that this show wouldn't exist without the person sitting next to me because had i not come out of her vagina
oh god oh god dirty motherfucking game introducing the woman that birthed me mother laurie cooper yep okay big al big al i was having a much better time all week calling you 10
times a day who are you gonna have who's the person gonna be oh my god are you getting cardi b
daddy gang literally my mom calls me she's like oh my god like who did you decide on and i tell
my mom everything so she's like who's the 100th guest and i'm like i am not even telling you like
it's a surprise so flash forward to this weekend they're they got a ring at the doorbell and lo
and behold my mother answers the door and she makes eye contact with me first so excited Alex thinking I'm surprising her and then
she goes oh god oh god I could tell right away oh god I don't know how I could tell I could tell I
was like oh my god I am not just doing your laundry no I am here oh my mother and I just
want to like like get let you guys know she is clenching the microphone to the point where we may not have her audio she is so nervous
she's freaking out she's not doing how are you doing not well i'm fine over here i'm fine i'm
losing my mind but i'm fine oh my okay listen to me okay mom i want you to let you know because
daddy game my mom was like freaking out she's like
oh my god but like what if they don't think i'm funny and i'm like mom no one is like looking for
my mom to come on and be like cracking dick jokes like you can chill i think the moral of this is
going to be first and foremost you already made it you could literally leave right now you're on
the show okay that sounds perfect go ahead
I think on the 100th episode what I want to do today is you have been we can get sappy here you
are the most influential person in my life thank you and I aspire to be not only the mother you are, but also just like the type of person you are.
Thanks.
You're welcome.
So I think that the daddy gang, it would be really I've really talked about you on this podcast so much how you are so insightful.
And it will be fun to just kind of let the daddy gang know where I'm from.
Yeah.
Who I came from. Right. No, I get know where I'm from. Yeah. Who I came from.
Right.
No, I get it.
I'm ready.
Okay.
Here we go.
I think the most asked question on the internet, hands down, and we can just kick it off with this.
People would want me to ask is, how does your mom feel about Call her daddy the show okay i'm gonna correct you
right there okay because what i think the number one question is yep and you were just giving me
a nice little kudo it's how does your father feel what does her dad think about the show oh my god what are their fathers thousand to one
everyone what are their dads think ew it's even instagram girls everyone on the internet if you're
posting bikini pictures what do their fathers think what does their dad think and my mom gets
all upset i do i'm like excuse me it's a 50 50 like she couldn't have gotten here without you
without me right but to, to answer your question.
Oh, I think it's amazing.
I'm just going to put it out there.
Thank you.
I'm immensely proud.
Yeah.
What's going on here.
And, you know, I'm just going to say it.
I admire the product you've created.
I know where it comes from.
I know how much talent I've watched you, you know, since the beginning, eight years old,
you were starting to think about doing these things. And I, dad and I are both like immensely
proud of you personally. But you know, and I've said this to you before, I think you even said it,
this creative process and product is even bigger than you, which like kudos to you. I'm proud.
I'm going to do a mom moment. I am really proud.
Thank you.
Listen, is it raunchy?
Does it have sex and making fun of circumstances with sex and all of that?
Sure.
But you have to respect the creative process and the product.
Yeah.
Like, how do you not?
I mean, I know I was saying to you,
girl, Lena Dunham's girls. Yeah. The show girl TV show. I was like, this is amazing. Right. I mean,
maybe it's my viewpoint, but sex in the city. I think I've watched that three, three rotations,
right? Right. I read an article, Sarah Jessica Parker Parker when she took that role hesitated because she
thought it would ruin her career now so that's that's progress yeah you know I mean it's funny
because you and I always in the beginning and even still to this day I think daddy gang my mom
would literally call me and be like i just left the grocery store and i
ran into so and so from your middle school days and their parents came up to me yeah and and okay
and so and so they'll go how are you doing and i'm like fine thank you but like there's this tone
right like you shouldn't be okay right right I'm like I'm
good how are you no like how are you doing with Alex and I'm like Alex is great did you hear about
the podcast right she's doing great it's great thank you so much and they just look at me like
what's wrong with you right and didn't you have a close friend? I had close – I had a very close friend, like college friend.
She called me saying that she and her husband had discussed what was happening with you
and they felt compelled to let dad and I know that they thought something was wrong
and it needed to be addressed.
And were we aware of of I'm like aware of
it like you think I don't know what's happening you're like wait Alex is a podcast I literally
had no idea and this is like a year into it yeah so as a mother like did that bother you
did it come on yeah you know me yeah that that was a good question but yeah yeah it what bothered me
and I started to I told you I started to parse it out differentiate like I said to you there's
a difference between how do you feel about the show or what Alex is doing as opposed to how do
you feel about Alex and I feel like many times that's the underlying message oh how do you feel
about your daughter right well I'm sitting here.
I feel great about my daughter.
I'm very proud of you.
Thank you.
And so is dad.
I want to say thank you to you for a minute because while starting this show and going through this show, I can only speak for myself on my family and the support that I had going through this, you
guys have been so supportive, not since it got successful, to be able to go into the
recording studio every single week since episode one and have my family, not saying they loved
the sex content, but fully supporting me.
That made my career when I
went in there I didn't have to think about what are my parents gonna think I was very fortunate
right and but that's you know that comes with the years of I had trust in you as a person yeah
this thing could have not worked right It could have been a total flop.
I had confidence in you and the craft that you were trying.
And this was your first jump in.
And it's like, let's do it.
And everybody is looking at this final product, so to speak, that's come out.
And you know me and my quotes.
I'm always giving you guys quotes.
But one of the ones I always said
to you, if you can't figure out your purpose, figure out your passion, your passion is going
to lead you there. You're you've been driven by your passion your whole life. No, and I think that
everyone listening Daddy gang, I definitely feel like there are people that grow up and that you
know what you want to do. And then
there are people I have had best friends that have no idea what they want to do. I want to just tell
everyone that's like younger trying to figure it out. Don't put pressure on yourself to be like,
I have to figure it out by 25. I have to fit. Like if you, like you said, mom, and it is kind of a
great quote, figure out what your passion is because then that will just, that will lead you
to like success because I'd wake up every single day and love what I'm doing.
Of course, this podcast is like stressful at times, but there's nothing else I would rather be doing.
Mm hmm.
I throughout my years, I even have mentioned some of your like iconic lines that have stuck with me.
And then inherently, I'm obviously on my podcast using them because you're my mother.
And I know that you weren't obviously prepared for this interview so I pulled
up some of your iconic lines that I just think I would say on the call her daddy podcast and I want
the daddy gang to hear some Laurie Cooper fucking wisdom okay so I just always thought it'd be easier
for you guys if I gave you like repeating lines no you did you would say the same shit over
and over to us at the time when I was younger I'm like mom we get it but now I'm like oh mom
yeah I get it and now it still it stuck with me so the first part has to do with relationships
and it's so beautiful because Lauren having just gone through her breakup I remember
you on FaceTime with her asking her
this question and I haven't heard you say this in a while but I remember you saying it to me in
college as well okay when you were dating all those guys with all the depth yes all the depth
all the emotion so brilliant so beautiful um but at least they were rich okay so yeah and I knew
you were just practicing I'm like well I'll let her just float this out and she'll see she hits a brick wall she'll be like that's not working
that's not working see trial and error maybe you don't want that so this is one of your i obviously
i don't have a quote by quote but this is basically something laurie cooper has always preached to me
and my friends and my family about relationships unless you are engaging in a relationship
where you truly believe that person makes you a better version of yourself
why would you ever commit to a static agreement so basically you've is that how you say it sort
of yeah I think I threw that static piece in later.
But it's just basically there's so much emphasis today.
You know me.
I have literally gone from, you know, I hope you guys find a good life partner, whoever that is, get married, if you want children.
I'm like not 100% on marriage anymore.
Right.
And not that we're against it.
You're more just like whatever makes you happy.
Well, whatever makes you happy, but whatever allows you to continue to grow.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, I think what I was most, I am most thankful in my relationship with dad.
And I've told you this.
I'm like the version you see before you now with dad is like version 10 right you know
like we had to keep moving forward and developing this language and this support system but when we
came together there was no question in my mind I am a better person like productively internally when I am with this man wow make each other better
so the decision to commit to that and back in our day it was you got married right it was
it was a no-brainer except and I've told you this. I had a little. Right. You're kind of like me. An issue too. Yeah. Yeah.
Right.
Because it was being vulnerable.
But.
That.
To me.
Was the deciding factor.
And I may have even gotten that.
From therapy myself.
Yeah.
I have to kind of go through that.
When you're going into my field.
But.
I think.
No.
I think it's brilliant.
I think everyone listening.
Daddy gang.
That's beautiful.
Thank you mom.
It's like.
Everybody listening to this podcast. Take a fucking minute. And think of yourself, daddy gang, that's beautiful. Thank you, mom. It's like everybody listening to this podcast,
take a fucking minute and think of yourself.
If you're in a relationship right now,
or even if you're not,
think back to past relationships.
Did that person make you the best version and a better version of yourself?
Or did you feel better individually and without that person?
Did they make you feel like shit?
Do they put you down? Do they support your career like which is it because when you kind of ask
yourself that question because i remember when we asked lauren and i know you've asked me that
in the past and a lot of times it's kind of a very clear answer right and and that's kind of
scary because then you got to be willing to like listen to yourself big weight no i don't feel like
a better version of myself he puts me down he makes me feel like shit right and so that's what I was kind of jumping in to say to
you I forget where I got this quote from right but the quote is ownership does it make you feel
like the best version of yourself it's not his or her responsibility. Right. When you come together, you get that feeling from a positive relationship.
Right.
But you've got to look at it and go, what am I doing here?
Am I – the flip side to this that I've used with you is if someone you're partnering with makes you feel less than who you know you are to be and you are, that's not a healthy
relationship. Right? And that's, it's like dark and deep, but it's not a healthy relationship.
And I don't know whether you got, we literally, I couldn't even prepare for this because I was
so nervous. But my other quote that's coming to me, and I know you've used this a lot,
I used to say it to you a lot is you need
to understand in an imbalanced relationship the person that cares the least controls
the relationship Laurie Cooper I have tweeted that line a lot I have said that line and people get
so mad at me when I say that but it is it's fucking true you hate to hear that yeah because if you're
in a relationship and you start realizing that that other person in a negative way is calling
all the shots that's so unhealthy it's literally they don't care exactly they care they care the
least it's so fucking true it's so dark daddy gang but think about that i remember i used
that in my he doesn't like you episode i was like it's the person that one right the person that
cares least it's like hold on think about that he never calls he never texts he treats you like
shit so who's who's texting you you're texting first every time you're trying to get him to see
you you're fine i'll double text him i'll try to show up and then i'll bring food so he likes me why are you having to try so hard because he doesn't care
and therefore you're the one putting in all the effort and therefore he's the one that dictates
the relationship and it's not healthy it's not but it's the truth it really either one of you
it's not and that's where it goes back i'll go back one more time and then you can move on i'll let you move on this goes back to when you're little why do you want to be friends with someone
who doesn't want to be friends with you that was on my list oh okay laurie cooper spitting facts
that is the big like why do you want to be in a fucking relationship with someone that doesn't
want to be in a relationship with you what are you doing yeah doesn't have the same feelings like why are you forcing something why would you want to force someone a relationship with you. What are you doing? Yeah. Doesn't have the same feelings.
Like, why are you forcing something?
Why would you want to force someone to fucking like you or hang out with you or want to be
with you?
And what's the cliche line everybody uses when they see like a marriage and everything
later and they go, oh, it's not working out.
They go, oh, well, either he or she.
Yeah.
They settled.
Oh.
Settled?
You get one life, my dear.
Right.
One.
Yeah.
So what are you doing with this one wonderful life?
There's no, well, the Buddhists believe.
Right.
There's no.
There's a redo.
Right.
Okay.
So that's one exclusion.
We're not Buddhists.
Okay.
This is, this is it.
This is it.
You're settling.
So you're going to settle.
And this doesn't mean the
most money the best the smartest person it means for you the richest relationship and that's what
it goes back to i know i'm preaching now but i've said this to you no i love it fucking spit facts
in her face please but when you find your person it's what works for you works for you well
i have another quote from you laurie and this is a quote that's not your quote but you always used
to say it to us and it's the one that's you accept the love that you think you deserve yeah and that's
as far as you can go if you don't think you deserve more than the guy that beats the shit
out of you and treats you like shit then you will continue to be with that person the minute that you open your eyes and you see wait i think i deserve more than
this i think i really see myself and i know in my heart of hearts this is going to be the hardest
thing to get out of but i truly like you said i know it's corny as fuck we live one life you
gotta figure a way if you don't feel like you're getting the best out of something get the fuck out
right and i just and i get your passion with what you just said, but I do want to clarify when
you're in an abusive relationship that the balance is so skewed that you sort of, um,
as the person that may be in being abused, you don't really have that thought process
to be able to get out and be strong.
So you need help with that.
Do you have any advice for people that are in that situation?
Get help, get professional help. Yeah. And I will tell you right now, and I almost can say this
professionally, but I won't. This is mom and daughter. If you are in a relationship and it
is not good, and God forbid, if it's abusive right if that person will not go to
therapy with you for the love of god get your family around you and get out of it because that's
a really bad sign if they won't work with you to solve a problem i'm getting a little dark no no
but it's true i think i think people like this on the show sometimes when I've
Talked about sexual abuse and now this is it
Is nice to have people that are
Older like sex with Emily brought in
A different she was great she was great
And this is I know a lot of girls
Deal with this and it's kind of
A lot of girls even ask me where do you even find a therapist
Like you saying that to someone
I think is really
Powerful static part I'm talking about, Alex.
Yeah.
That's the static.
Like if you think if you think that making the commitment or, you know, getting married,
let's say, or having children, that won't change if the person isn't going to go and
get some help for to change themselves.
Right.
And stop being.
Yeah.
If your partner won't
go to therapy with you and you're saying there's a clear issue they don't think they need to change
well they also don't care enough about the relationship if dad came to me tomorrow and said
i need to go dad needs to go i would go for Right. Because he's asking me and I care.
Right.
And vice versa.
So it's anyone that goes, I don't need that.
Right.
You can go, but I don't need that.
Well, if you're a partner.
There you go.
Right.
Okay.
Oh my God, spitting fast.
Well, I think, and in that, this is another thing that I have kept with me and I think
about in every relationship that I get in
because of you and I've said this to my friends Lori Lori you're you really are the granddaddy
over here okay what are you gonna say it's well it's relating to this another Lori Cooper quote
brilliance if something is bothering you in your relationship and if there are things that you do not like
in your relationship, it will only get 10 times worse when you get married.
So if you are in a relationship right now and he's an alcoholic or he's a dick to you or he's
cheating on you or she's cheating on you and she treats you and she gaslights you and you're just dating understand that it will get worse the minute you commit to
each other in marriage so like you have to knowingly be ready to sign up for that correct
and the thing is it's not no we're not no one's perfect in my opinion. So we're not out there like, oh, they do that. So leave. The point is you need to address it.
Yeah.
You have to address it.
I have, unfortunately, a lot of friends right now.
They're empty nesters, right?
They're with their spouses.
And they haven't had these conversations.
Like dad would have ticked me off last week.
I would tell him something.
This is bothering me. A lot of people have all these conversations in their head.
And they never even tell their partner. And they're not communicating.
Yeah. And it just, you know what that's like. Oh my God. You just, it keeps going, going,
going. You're like, eh, it's gone. Then it comes up again it's just you got it your generation which i love
this whole thing with technology yeah okay fine it's probably bad you know where each other is
i cannot believe boyfriends and girlfriends follow each other and find my apps oh my god
oh my god we wanted to use that in college for for you kids in case you like got in a car accident
right right and
now boyfriends and girlfriends are like following each other which i think is psychotic and if
my boyfriend ever wanted to fall follow me on a fucking tracking device i'd be like literally go
fuck yourself right so and you're looking at each other's phones and all that yeah so but with that
openness use it positively right use it like if you're not good at confrontation maybe you could
text him while he's at work and
start the conversation hey like i really think we should talk later tonight i've been thinking about
blah blah blah however daddy gang it's never too late if you're in a situation where you're like
but it's too far down the line or i'm in a seven-year relationship how could i ever end it
no fuck no we do not fucking settle and I'm so happy you brought up that fucking word. I can't even imagine.
Settle.
Settle.
I settled.
I'm going to settle with my life.
I'm going to settle at 25.
Excuse.
Daddy gang, we don't fucking settle.
We fucking thrive and we succeed and we get what we fucking deserve.
And in turn, you give as much as you receive see yeah it works because it's that's
the healthy side that you're bringing that i'm trying it's a safe zone no it's true it's true
lori wait till i pull my book out that i've been keeping for years i know it's kind of
if anyone has blackmail on me it's my mother but at least
it's my mother i think that we could transition because it will just be fun i think we're just
going to talk about shit we talked about my childhood it's like the whole thing of self
awareness and what have you always said about self-awareness laurie it is the single most important piece to develop for success in both your personal
and your professional life yeah like it is it yep and again it goes back to the only person you can
control is yourself so awareness of the self it's where it all comes from you've always said to me
like no one ever evolves and grows unless they are willing to discuss change.
And you can't grow if you don't change and you can't grow if you're not self-aware.
And change causes discomfort.
Right.
And people hate that.
Right.
And that's why everybody's coming up to me in the grocery store.
Are you okay?
How do you feel?
Are you okay?
Going through a little change here.
Yeah.
I do have to say when I pushed like the whole individual self-awareness thing, I think I
might have pushed it a little too hard.
Yeah.
Let's talk about that because you really fucked me up.
No, I'm just kidding.
So Daddy Gang, I think that I preach it on this show.
I'm like, Daddy Gang, you need to be yourself.
Own your shit.
You don't need a man.
You don't need a woman.
Because when I was growing up, I think you really taught me.
You, you, yeah, you did push individuality and you really never put an emphasis on like having a partner.
Right.
It was more about being good on my own.
Right.
Which I love, but I think I may have taken a little too far I don't I I think
honestly in another way you were probably my my best child disciple you took every who you like
that out you like this big yeah you you kind of hung you and I had a we have a connection
personality wise extroverted you wouldn't know it right now with
me because you're freaking the fuck out freaking out but um you took that and you kept developing
the self the self the you know and working on that and being a better person and evolving
um i don't i don't think it's a problem for you right now. I think you just have really, really always strive to be the maximum at anything.
Now you're hitting,
you're looking for that maximum relationship.
Well, it's interesting
because you and I were having a conversation
over drinks last night
about like how I've always called it a game with men.
And it's something I'm going,
I'm going down this journey in therapy, daddy game.
But basically like what I've been talking about is I was, I felt like I was playing a game with men for so long because
for a very long time in my entire childhood and life and I'm working on soccer in my career
I couldn't have been more okay being alone I was very happy and being an individual and so every
time I had a guy in my life it was more so like a a fun side thing for
me to do but I was never expecting anyone to fill me up fully because I do it for myself right and
like you called it you call it a game right I call the exact same thing a process Lori it's true hit
us where it hurts and with the game that kind of diminishes the process, right?
It sounds a little manipulative, competitive.
It's a throwaway, right?
You win, you keep moving on.
It's a process.
Right.
And I mean, going back to your soccer days, right?
Right.
How many times did you kick the net?
Thousands until you figured that perfect shot.
Are you about to connect this
to dating oh my god so here we go so you need to date thousands of men right no but actually you
need to date you figure out what you want yes and and that's where it goes back to again the amount
of times that my mom and i have conversations about like when family members or extended friends
of ours are like he is just getting it out of his system.
Yeah.
Okay.
And let me, let me jump in with that because you know that I go on a rant with that every
time.
And, and it's not, it's not sexist.
I'm fine with both sexes with this and I don't even mean sex itself, but why can you say,
oh, he's a great young man.
He's got a wonderful college degree and he's good looking.
He's got a wonderful college degree and he's good looking he's got a good job he just needs to get the fuck boy syndrome out of his system and then he's going
to make a great father and husband and husband okay so how does that not work for a woman for
the other that person would never have it come out of their mouth she just needs to fuck around so
much for a little bit.
Right.
And then she's going to make an amazing wife.
Right.
Never.
Never.
The point I think we're bringing up is like when I've called it a game, you're right,
mom, and maybe it was because I was an athlete and that's just what I was calling it, but
it really is a process figuring out what you like.
And you've had some pretty dark games.
Yeah. In the relationship slice of it yeah right yeah and then I'll always say to you you know where people go oh my god you regret that happened
I'm like don't ever regret a negative experience yeah if you grew from it right this is this is
what I I hope this is this is what I see is your message right no I've had so many crazy things
happen in relationships and even though I was entertaining the guys that were not the best of
intentions for a while you've taught me never regret anything because I've had extremely amazing
experience not I wouldn't say amazing but it is kind of amazing extraordinary extraordinary
experiences because I am where I am.
I have a better sense of self knowing what I want, what I don't want because of those
experiences.
Okay.
It was, here's what you want is one thing.
It's so easy.
I mean, we're getting a little into the weeds, but it's like what you want is easy.
You can, and you can see it.
Right.
And I used to say this to you guys a lot too.
And this is what we're talking about here.
It's so important to know what you don't want.
Yeah.
And what you don't want when you experience it
is usually a negative experience, right?
Yep.
But then how important is that moving forward?
This is what we were talking about,
like the whole victim.
I know we're going to get into that, the victim.
Well, they did this to me.
They did that to me.
Why are you here again?
You need to know what you don't want.
Yeah.
Accountability is something I think you and dad raised me with.
And I was joking to my mom.
We were just having a conversation about,
and I'm not talking about victims of like sexual assault.
I'm talking about the,
the people
that are like woe is me I she did this to me I'm a victim or or he did this to me and it's like
what did you always say to me when I was growing up you would come I mean I'm when you say that
I see like the little braids and the uniform from catholic. Shout out. Right. Okay.
But you would come to the door and Susie cream cheese said blah, blah, blah to me. Right.
And I'd say, so what are you going to do about it?
Right.
Because you can't change the way Susie made you feel.
Right.
But you can change the way you're going to behave and respond now to the situation.
It's the only control you have.
Fucking boom. And that's empowerment. No you have fucking boom and that's empowerment no it is
because that is empowerment and i do want to say to the daddy gang like we are not fucking victims
we don't let a boy my boyfriend is shit happens of course shit happens of course but you got to
deal with it you got to deal with it it's not going to be like my boyfriend is treating me
like shit and it's like okay so what are you going to do about it?
But it's also it's a it's a lack lack of autonomy over your own life.
Right.
You know, which is almost worse because you're handing it over to somebody else.
So that's always everyone else.
Yeah.
It's always someone else's problem.
They did this to me.
And then how do you solve someone else's problem?
See, it completely
enables you right to dependency right because how oh he's doing that to you and he's causing
your pain and your misfortune well you don't control him right you control yourself or her
why don't you walk away so you need to decide what you're going to do to protect yourself. This is deep. Well, it's deep, but it's also, it's behavior 101 if you buy into it.
Yeah.
It's the difference of what did they do to me or what am I going to do about it?
It really comes down to that.
Lori.
Oh my God.
Look at this.
No, that's true. It's just, it's it's i mean you've heard the expect glass half full
glass half right it's just it's the same dynamic right somebody pushed you somebody said something
right well they already did it the action's done right so what are you gonna do roll over and
ask them to do it again or pick up go go to a different sandbox, find a new friend, move on with your life.
And I don't mean to sound patronizing, but it's very simplistic.
Yeah.
Well, I think this is cool because I think like I do like to have like different moments on call her daddy because sometimes I feel like you we go through our everyday life, especially in Corona.
And some of us are in ruts and some of us are like stuck and whatever the fuck we're doing
and it's like this is kind of a cool I mean I'm enjoying this episode or talking about this and
who knows what will go in and what won't go in but I feel like I'm having a therapy session with my
mother it is nice to have reset moments to just reevaluate everything and everyone in your life i think for me in corona
that's something that i really started to look at who is super toxic in my life
and why do i still entertain those people maybe everyone after this episode at least something
we take is like and i'm even thinking about it even more because I've been thinking about it in Corona, but I'm like, who is in
my life and how does every single person in my life make me feel?
And who are you giving a lot of your time to?
Because I think in the past I was giving my time to people that were sucking the fucking
life out of me and I was getting nothing in return.
I felt empty and I was giving them everything and then you're kind of like this doesn't seem right but then when you're
in a pattern and you keep going with it friendships or romantic it is hard to kind of get out of it
i admit i'm not i know i'm saying oh i'm strong and i'm no i've had fucking times where i'm like
how do i get out of this because it becomes like i like, I don't know if I have the effort right now to like pick up
and get out of here.
Do you remember one situation?
I know you do.
Okay, here we go.
And it was pretty serious.
And I said to you, you could commit to this relationship.
And if this is what you're going to sign up for, you are going to spend the rest of your life trying to help this man get healthy because he is very broken.
Yes.
And sometimes people do that because they think I love them.
You better look at your construct of what love is.
And that was not the way you were raised.
That's what I was so, so specific on. It has to be a partnership. It doesn't have to be equal
with exactly the same stuff, but it has to balance out always as an equal partnership.
And I wanted to scare you at that moment because I meant it. You did. You will spend your life trying to make him normal.
Is that what you want to do?
I thought you had a few other things on your list.
And he will suck every piece of oxygen out of the air every time you're with him.
And I was, remember it this is you're getting chills
this is verbatim what my mother said to me yeah so i just i i will support your decision because
you know me i'm almost to a fault that i don't interfere once um once you can become an adult
right i feel like i've given you the foundation but I I did want you to know what you
were signing up for I will never forget that moment it's interesting you're bringing this up
because I don't know if it aired last week or is now airing this week on Hannah's part two
I talked about how I had a phase after college where I kind of lost myself and I remember kind of distancing myself from you and dad
because I knew you guys knew I wasn't doing what I wanted to do with my life yes I had just won
my silent film award yep in my senior year I was killing it in the film program at Boston
and then I graduated and all of a sudden everything I had
done my entire life all of a sudden just kind of stopped and I became a girlfriend and I remember
distancing myself because I was too it was almost like I was just too ashamed because I knew how
you guys knew what I really was and I was so in this vortex of being a girlfriend
that I kind of lost myself for a minute and i remember and this will
go in a fucking book one day but really what ended up happening that is for another story but
the point is finally i remember you and dad being like where the fuck is alex cooper where the fuck is the girl that grew up in our basement yes making movies yes went to high
school continued to make movies went to college for film and television won the silent film award
right like where is she because we barely could hold you back when you were a young girl trying
to fucking leave and be like i'm not going
to high school i'm not going to college i'm going to fucking hollywood and you're like no we're
going to give you a normal life and then you gave me a normal life and i'm so grateful and i went to
college and i did all of it and then i'm like what am i fucking doing and it really was the scariest
moment for me too like i almost lost myself there to be like mailing it in i'll have money and i'll
have a guy that kind of treats me like a fucking piece of shit and i'm literally trying to help this man through his family trauma and
all the things but what what do i get and i was kicking myself because i had taught you
how to do you know good intervention right with right and you're like alex you can't save this
person like okay now and that is where i do i do love you and dad for finally stepping in
when it got so dark and you were like where the fuck is she and literally once that happened call
her daddy was made in less than like three months well because that the minute you came out i woke
up you you woke up yeah you woke up i was like what the fuck i knew i knew who you were and all
of that and and and remember that i'm not just saying this to make it sound right.
But I didn't even dislike.
I liked that person.
No, no.
I liked him.
It was.
But that wasn't the issue.
Yeah, it wasn't right.
That wasn't the issue.
The dynamic was very off.
Yeah.
Very off.
You know?
Yeah.
And I think when you get in a situation where someone is so emotionally reliant on you,
like you said, you almost taught me to do that but then i got to the point where again i'm saying
and this goes back to daddy getting everything we said this whole episode what was i getting
and what was he getting and most importantly you were losing yourself right so i wasn't the
best version of myself and i was not the best version of yourself.
So I think that the point is, is like you find people, daddy gang.
And you shouldn't feel.
I feel like so many girls are like, I regret this.
And I, oh my God, he was such a dick.
Even if you got cheated on, you were sitting there in the darkest point of your life.
Because one day I will tell the story of what really fucking happened to me in one of my breakups.
And it was the most unbelievable situation.
And it included garbage bags.
It's a movie.
It is the most unbelievable thing that my parents had to get involved.
And as much in that moment as I was so distraught, when I look look back I wouldn't change one thing about what happened
no because I wouldn't be sitting in this fucking chair right now having my hundredth episode with
my goddamn mother on the call her daddy podcast the call her daddy podcast may not even exist
had the garbage bag situation had not happened it absolutely would not and that is my mantra also to
you if you went through that hell but you're in a good spot now, don't regret that.
Yeah.
Because you learned from it.
Yeah.
It's hard to do in the moment, but that's why I always, I keep saying it on my show
and I brought it up.
I started thinking about it on the show and I keep telling people, look at it from a third
party point of view.
Everyone, when you watch people going through a breakup, you're always like, oh my God,
you're going to come out stronger than ever it's kind of true you learn something that
you hated or loved and now you're moving on to be bigger and better and how many times come on
you'll it's totally normal for your age group right everybody sits around and you listen to
these stories and you go oh i'd never do it that way oh I wouldn't get burnt like that I would never get cheated on
Alex talks about getting cheated on so much she really overemphasizes getting cheated on
okay that's what I'm talking about vulnerability if you always are looking at it like oh I'm not
gonna that's not gonna happen to me you're not living this process fully yeah you're gonna get shortchanged right i mean you gotta go through
this hello this has been honestly i hope you guys are enjoying this as much as i am i feel like i
just got a free therapy session from my mother god i hope they're okay with this i feel like i'm
sitting in in the the office of the psychologist i work for and we're talking about cases sorry no no but
I think I don't know I mean listen if they hated it you're my mother they can't hate you so it's
like you're not a podcaster but I do I think that this is something I was thinking about
and I want you to take a minute to think about this no pressure but to wrap this episode up yeah because we've gone all over well i didn't know where i
have no i had no idea i honestly just blacked out um i wish i could do that you guys talk about
about blacking out and going into holes i can't black out mom you shouldn't be blacking out at
that age that's not a good sign but it sounds nice it's like you get to go away and you come back and and there's no responsibility no it's nice um
god okay to get deep here laurie yeah we oh like we haven't no we haven't no to finish this and to
kind of wrap it up as much as we're kind of talking about me and you and and and how i was raised and giving your insight i want to ask you a very
specific question that i was trying to figure out how to say it for a while and i think i have it
that i hopefully think will wrap it all up for just this 100th episode of like. If you could tell the daddy gang.
As my mother.
Who?
They're not always interested in.
It's usually the dad's opinion.
Right.
The dad.
The dad.
No.
No.
The mom.
No.
No.
I'm giving.
I'm giving you the money.
Daddy gang.
Daddy gang.
Daddy gang cares about you.
As my mother.
What would you tell the daddy gang about me that you think because I have an online relationship with them, they would never really truly know about me.
But as my mother, you know about me and my character.
Like, what do you want them to know about me?
Take a minute.
Wow.
I mean, I honestly don't even need a moment to know what I want to tell them.
I just have to collect the thoughts. I need about an hour.
Right.
You're not a podcaster.
We're here for you.
Okay.
We'll wait.
Well, I want people to know
that you were raised with very high moral and ethical principles yeah i mean as a parent
i'm most proud that when your integrity and your character were challenged
you did the right thing it's been a lot of shit flying around. And, well, you may end up cutting this out, but the entire story of the factors leading up to the dispute most likely will never be told, Alex.
Yeah.
Unless you're given no choice.
And I don't think they should because that's not how we raised you.
Right.
But when you were facing the potential of significant loss to your career,
I want people to know you were a supportive, loyal, and caring friend first
until all the other options were exhausted. And I'm not talking about the contracts
and the negotiations. I'm talking about the individuals you cared about, their personal
struggles. So I guess this is kind of my long-winded way of saying I want people who don't know you personally to know you're a good
decent and strong young woman and that's what I'm most proud of Alex
it's that
fuck daddy game mom i'm done
fuck this is getting so deep and fuck thank you mom thank you i i mean i that that's the
closing statement i don't need to say thank you my mother i don't have to do this no you're done
you're officially done laurie cooper you've graced the daddy king with their presence
you've gripped the fuck out of that microphone it's broken um thank you mom thank you for coming
on that honestly i i couldn't have asked for a better guest and i don't think i will ever have
a better guest oh well they may be easier oh my god they may be here to podcast with but no that was amazing
laurie cooper okay what does that say you're crying and i want to vomit so maybe that's our
relationship alex i don't know daddy fucking gang you just heard from my mother and now it's your
father speaking which is confusing to say in my hometown house because my dad is like are you
calling for me?
I'm like, no, dad.
I'm the father in this home.
Daddy gang, you know the motherfucking drill.
That is it.
I don't need to see one more fucking thing.
I will see you fuckers.
Next Wednesday.