Call Her Daddy - 94- Bisexuality & Depression (ft. Maggie Lindemann)

Episode Date: September 9, 2020

Call Her Daddy gets a bit more serious, dark, and real this week. Father Cooper kicks it off with a sex update and some healthy news regarding her dating life and the show. Then, the guest this week, ...Maggie Lindemann, a singer/songwriter, joins the show and discusses her personal journey to coming out as a bisexual woman. Maggie explains when she knew she was bisexual, how she revealed the news to her family via text message and to the world via live stream (!!!). She also discusses the struggles of girl on girl relationships being fetishized, the frustrations of hooking up with straight women, and how being bisexual has affected her male relationships. The episode only gets deeper when Maggie opens up about her younger teen years, self harm, and the road to recovery and getting healthy. Enjoy Daddies!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 do you call him daddy do i call her daddy call her daddy oh my fucking god what the fuck is up daddy gang it is your founding father back at it again for another episode of call her mother fucking daddy. Hi, hello. What the fuck is up? It's been a minute. Door number three came all over my $12,000 couch. What? Daddy gang, you're like, I'm sorry, Alex, I'm just trying to get my bearings here. And you say what? Listen, I'm saying $12,000 because it really does have to like it adds to the story. It's not a flex. Listen to what happened to my life. I quickly mentioned it on a vlog and people were like, huh? So I just need to like get it out there. I can't even talk about anything else in the episode. I just want to tell you this because I genuinely think this symbolizes how my life is going.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Okay. So I like to be sedentary. I like to be horizontal. I like to lay down. It's my favorite pastime. It's what I like to do all day, every day. So my entire life, I have wanted a restoration hardware cloud couch. Okay. I get my new contract and I'm like I literally make a little fund for this restoration hardware couch a Chanel bag a fucking Celine a Birkin no a fucking cloud couch okay so this is my life dream finally I purchase the restoration hardware cloud couch in total it's twelve thousand dollars that is disgusting that is so ridiculous but it's $12,000. That is disgusting. That is so ridiculous, but it's what I wanted to spend my fucking money on. Okay. I know this is first world problems, but this is my fucking podcast and this is what's happening right now. So listen, so I buy the couch and the first person to Chris in my apartment is door number three with me. Okay. He comes over. As you guys know,
Starting point is 00:02:06 door number three has been someone in my life for a very long time. That is like my ride or die. I hate that fucking saying. Let's take that back. Rewind. He's like been my day one go to first guy was like, truly like, wow, I really am in love with this person. Great. Okay. but we're not together because we can't be together what what is a relationship here on call her daddy we're gonna get into that later but so he comes over he comes to New York and he comes to my apartment for the first time I have had my restoration hardware couch okay I've had this couch for two days I haven't even really sat on it because I wanted to say pluff and fluff and pluff isn't a word.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Pluff and fluff. Okay. I wanted to say looking amazing for when he comes. I'm like, oh my God, first man in my apartment. This is going to be epic. Door number three comes over. Door number three sits down on the couch with me. Door number three and I play a movie.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Door number three and I start to fuck. Obviously, tensions are high. He starts making out with me he goes on my pants the whole thing is getting hot and heavy and it's in the moment so it's hot and it's amazing and it's steamy and we start fucking and we're fucking and all of a sudden his penis is about to come everywhere and I'm like yeah baby come whatever blah blah okay he pulls out and starts coming on my stomach but it's kind of one of those where it like drizzles up to the belly button then it's down and he's kind of like putting a little bit in the pussy region whatever
Starting point is 00:03:27 all of a sudden I'm kind of like knocked the fuck out of like my fun like oh my god door number three is back and we're fucking and I realize I realize we are on my twelve thousand dollar fucking couch and there has come all over my fucking restoration hardware couch. Okay. In this moment, I go from being in a euphoric, amazing, oh, I just got my brain's fuck state to holy fucking shit. I shoved door number three off. I start bawling my eyes out. He's like, what, what, what is going on? Like, imagine him being like like we're having a great moment oh like passionate hot amazing sex and i'm like get the fuck off me he's like oh shit i am like get a fucking towel i look down semen is seeping seeping into my performance velvet couch okay
Starting point is 00:04:18 so i'm crying i don't know how to get up too because the semen is just coming off of my stomach rolling off my pussy onto the couch more and more so I quickly flip onto my fucking stomach onto the carpet so now there's semen also on my fucking carpet and he comes over and I'm like I don't even how do you clean semen off the couch I don't know know. So I'm like, hold on, hold on. Don't rub it. Don't do fucking anything. The one person in my life that I want to call is my mother. Now, the woman is a woman of many, many, many fucking talents. But Lori Cooper, she knows how to get everything. A stain is her bitch. However, my mother was so excited for me to get this couch I knew it would break her heart if I fucking called her and I was like hey mom door number three just splooged everywhere granted he is her favorite but I'm like it doesn't match up I can't I can't break my mother's heart she
Starting point is 00:05:17 hasn't even seen the couch in person and if she knows that there's semen all over this couch we will not recover from this our relationship will be strained for at least a year. So I Google how to get semen out of couch, how to get semen out of velvet, how to get semen out of restoration, hardware, performance, velvet couch. We get nothing. We get nothing. So I start dabbing it with a towel, dabbing, dabbing, dabbing. I'm having a panic attack. Poor door number three. Actually, no, fuck him. I was going to say poor door number three. Like he didn't even fully get to finish coming.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Like he was like mid like jacking off finish coming on my stomach when I shoved him off. So imagine as a man, like you're having that like, oh, you're not even hitting the post not yet. You're in your like literally blackout. I coming nothing is greater in this moment and then you have my bitch a screaming crying in your face before you even get your full nut out of your dick so he like had run to the bathroom and like literally come as seeping out of his wiener hole the whole situation was very um it was very hard on our relationship I felt uncomfortable I felt upset he offered to pay for an extra cushion for me I mean what a fucking g um and gentleman I mean not
Starting point is 00:06:32 a gangster gentleman what a gentleman I said no and eventually I kept blotting I kept blotting I ended up flipping over the couch cushion and when my mother came I was like mom look at the couch now listen it didn't it it still pains me to this day because the semen is there but it also is kind of like a symbolic reminder like door number three will always be with me even on my fucking twelve thousand dollar couch welcome to call her daddy this week motherfucker so that's kind of like symbolizes how my life is going right now how are you guys doing you're like you know what alex we were doing fine until you quickly just blacked out and told us that some man fucking came on a couch
Starting point is 00:07:08 and what is a performance velvet well clearly the performance in the fucking velvet isn't so performative because my fucking couch is fucked anyways daddy gang welcome back to the fucking show okay well i just let's all take a deep breath. The couch, the cum, you, me back at it again. Um, I, how am I feeling today? I'm feeling good. Um, I'm feeling all right. I wouldn't say I'm at my best. You know, when you go on vacation and you come back and people are like, um, they're like, they're like, do you feel so refreshed? And you're like, no, I actually need another fucking vacation from my motherfucking vacation. That's kind of how I feel. But it actually was like a very smooth sailing situation and I couldn't be happier.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I feel very Zen right now. So I'm trying to get back into the toxicity the toxicity that is my show call her motherfucking daddy um we've had two weeks off and at this point I could straight up be dating fucking Slim Shady again you're like what it's like we don't know like what so much can happen in two weeks I could get engaged you don't even know I'm probably fucking pregnant at this point with whose baby we don't know okay I'm like fucking pregnant at this point with whose baby we don't know. Okay. I'm like light, kind of like lightly blacking out. We're fine. So this is, this is where I want to take the episode. I mentioned on social media that I am, well, everyone fucking
Starting point is 00:08:37 knows I'm in therapy. Everyone's like, so Alex, that's, that's so obvious that if you, even if you weren't in therapy, we'd be genuinely concerned until you need to get into it. Don't worry. I've got it covered. I'm taking care of it. I am in therapy. So every week I talk to my therapist about my life, about the show, about the daddy gang. Does the daddy gang like Alex this week?
Starting point is 00:08:57 Does the daddy gang fucking hate Alex this week? The mood is contingent upon the daddy gang and the DMs that I receive. That is the most unhealthy thing. And my therapist would be like, Alex, we've worked on it. You do not measure your self-worth based off of DMs. And I'm like, yes, I do. Yes, I do. Did they like the episode? No. Okay. I am nothing. So yeah, you guys can tell a lot to work on a lot to work on anyways so I'm sitting in zoom therapy with my therapist as I'm coming off of my amazing vacation and I have to admit like when I got back to New York from going to the Hamptons going to LA I felt somewhat depressed like you know when you have like especially in corona right now i haven't been
Starting point is 00:09:45 seeing people and then finally i'm with people social distancing masks on please don't come for me but i'm doing my best to like somewhat have some social interaction and then i get back to new york and i walk into my apartment and i'm by myself i live alone which I do love. But after being with people for a second, especially in Corona, I came home and I was like, this is the, this is the darkest days. This is so depressing. So where am I in my life quickly? I think I need to do, I'm, it's good. I'm doing it like two for two seconds, a little deep here. I feel like I've been cracking jokes this entire time. Basically right now in my life, I think Corona for me personally has been a time
Starting point is 00:10:32 of a lot of self-realization and alone time. And as much as I'm depressed sometimes when I'm in my apartment, it's been forcing me to focus on what do I want in my life? Who do I want to surround myself with? And I've had a lot of time to think about who I started as when I started the Call Her Daddy podcast over two years ago and who I am now. And I think there's a lot of content in my mind that I want to talk about because I think for the first time in my life I and it's
Starting point is 00:11:05 the craziest thing for me to say out loud but I'm dating multiple people that I have genuine relationships with and they're fucking semi-healthy which is bizarre I know Alex Cooper what um so I think that's what I want to I want to talk about that I want to let you guys know that like whoa and having multiple people doesn't mean I'm being unhealthy I'm being about that I want to let you guys know that like whoa and having multiple people doesn't mean I'm being unhealthy I'm being honest that I'm dating multiple people to these men um but I think that who I am now compared to where I started the show like my dating style has changed and I haven't been able to fully roll that out for you guys and articulate that because I think sometimes I'm scared to be healthy on this show because I know I'm like so stuck in
Starting point is 00:11:48 the ways of the old show and like what it was and I think finally I'm like okay hold on that's literally not what I'm doing anymore it will always be a part of me but I do think it's also kind of like okay what else and trust me there's a lot of what else. But I just, I haven't really gone there with the show. And here we go. I'm excited. So I think next week I'm going to kind of outline for you guys, like, what the fuck has been going on in my life. And I hope you guys can understand, like, why I've been a little bit hesitant. But I hope you guys can also be supportive and come along on this journey with me.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Because I think we've, it's like we literally started as babies where we're like cheat on him cheat on her and we'll always play games but it's like we can also level up and be like all right I think the best test is can you even be fucking healthy because if you can be unhealthy and you know how to be healthy then you win at both so that's the new journey and I want you guys to come along with me. Don't freak out. It's going to be fine. Dati gang. Hello. Okay. I'm really excited because in the spirit of feeling like I want to be as inclusive on this show as possible. We need to have people of color.
Starting point is 00:13:02 We need to have people of different sexualities. I hear you and I want that as well um so this is kind of exciting because I am very self-aware in the fact that I would never speak on experiences that like I've never experienced why the fuck would I do that you dumb bitch um and today we have someone on the show that is bisexual very open about her journey towards coming out and being open about sexuality and depression, et cetera. And it's just a fucking awesome interview. And I'm really excited to have this person on.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Yes, she is a musician and yes, she is extremely successful, but that is not why I'm having her on. I have so much respect for her in that aspect but the truth is is i think her story hopefully is going to be so relatable to so many of you that i personally could never bring to the caller daddy podcast i will never pretend to know what it's like to come out to someone's family and to come out and and go through those struggles so i'm so fucking excited. Get your panties bunched up because you're going to fucking cream them soon. What? Guys, I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Here we fucking go. Introducing Maggie Lindman. Did I say your name right? Yeah, you did. No, everyone gets my last name wrong. Oh my God. So I got it right. How are you?
Starting point is 00:14:23 I'm good. You're good. I saw your snap today. You were feeling anxiety and I was like, oh fuck. Like, is it because of my show? No, no, no bigger issues. No, I've literally been having anxiety for like dead ass the past. I don't even know, like a week straight. But I also feel like Corona it's like, okay, what do we expect? I feel like everyone's in the weirdest position in their life. Like everyone is feeling uncomfortable. Everyone's just sad, emotional and like crying.
Starting point is 00:14:47 I'm like, I don't cry. Like, what is this? What's a tear? And so I understand. So I think a lot of it's going to be interesting to see like how many people from your world know who I am and my world know who you are. And I'm so excited for this collab because, guys guys Maggie is a singer and your music is so first I was gonna be like guys her music is really depressing it's amazing and no and I know this
Starting point is 00:15:13 sounds weird but like your music is the kind of music that I listen to like you know when you're sad and then you're like I want to literally pour so much salt in this fucking wound and I want to be more sad and that is like some of your music is really sad but i love it and i want to talk about it because i'm like are you a sad person is that like fucked up to just be like hi maggie are you really sad am i really sad it's in an act no i really am sad um no i am this is good well like okay i mean yeah i feel like okay i'm a cancer so i'm just like the most dramatic person ever okay me talking about like my zodiac sign defines me wait no no but like oh and like I'm the complete opposite I'm like a psycho I just like don't have feelings yeah this is good no yeah I just feel like I'm
Starting point is 00:15:54 such an emotional person and I don't know like everything makes me sad honestly no wait I actually kind of love that because I was thinking like daddy gang the reason I wanted to have Maggie on is like I have so much respect for how open you are with your fans for so long I have had so many listeners wanting me to talk about the LGBTQ community and talk about um oh my gosh why don't you talk about lesbian love and gay love and I'm like listen I fully support what I don't want to do is ever speak about something that I don't have personal experience about because I just think it's fucked up when people are like guys I have like the advice for you and it's like no bitch you literally you that's not your life so I want to kind of like go through you and your sexually liberated life I feel like you've been very open about your sexuality from what I've read yeah um tell us a little bit about your like sexual journey yeah so okay well being from Texas like
Starting point is 00:16:51 if you're from anywhere that's not like I don't know New York, Florida, California you're from like yeah Texas you saying Texas I'm like oh my god are you were you shunned like what the fuck yeah Texas is scary uh but i don't know it's just like a very conservative state right and so my whole life i mean my parents i'm lucky to have the parents i have because they're very accepting okay but uh yeah i knew from a pretty young age i mean i but i never really understood the concept of like bisexuality like i knew there was gay and i knew there was straight but i never really knew about that like in between and actually the first time I felt like a real connection with a girl was someone that was very androgynous so I thought like that was like my
Starting point is 00:17:37 excuse was like oh she's like androgynous so it's not really like like it's it's like kind of like still like a guy but yeah like she still kind of looks like a guy so like it doesn't make sense yeah but um eventually i was just like oh yeah like no you're bisexual yeah first of all i like commend you so much for just being honest and open and like that must have been i can imagine as much as i'm sitting here like yay go maggie like I'm assuming there were really hard fucking times in your life because as shitty as it is like as much as we have tried to normalize like be whatever the fuck you want to be and own it and love it there's it's still looked at by
Starting point is 00:18:14 some people in the world it's like what do you mean you're not straight like what the fuck and that I can't even get into that conversation because it makes me so mad but I think my audience would love to hear like your journey of coming out and like how did you first come out and how did you tell your family and like how did you decide to come out kind of yeah so I think I just turned 18 I'm pretty sure I was like newly 18 and um I'd done this shoot with galore and there was like this pillow uh that said something about like like sexuality and not being straight yeah and i literally saw that and it just felt like such a sign and i was like i was just like okay i have to do this so i went home and i just was like
Starting point is 00:18:57 sobbing and i actually texted my parents in a group chat and i was just like this is how it is and i'm i'm fortunate because i wasn't even living with my parents anymore and group chat and I was just like this is how it is and I'm I'm fortunate because I wasn't even living with my parents anymore and I and you know I pay my own bills and all that so my I'm like fortunate that I had that like you know I'm not still under their roof but they were very supportive of it um they were kind of just like yeah like we figured a little bit you know and then when I told my friends the same thing like i just texted them and i was like i don't know if you guys know but i'm about to like do this live stream and tell everyone and i want you guys to know first and literally all my friends were like girl like girl we know we do bitch and we fucking yeah we knew and i was like wow wait
Starting point is 00:19:40 what so wait how the fuck did you decide to come out to your parents via text like were you like should i call them should i text them like i feel like that's like kind of a hard moment to be like what the fuck do i do i'm just so bad with confrontation i hate confrontation that makes sense so if i'm gonna confront someone or it's not like well like if i'm gonna like bitch someone out i'm like good at that in person but like when it's something that i'm like yes like holding close to you yeah i'm gonna slide this in. Yeah. Maybe they'll miss the text. Yeah. Maybe they won't see it.
Starting point is 00:20:07 You know, won't see it. But I don't know. I just felt like that was. Did you. The best. Did you think that your parents had any idea? Like, did you think you're about to shock their world or no? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Really? And then were you shocked when they were like, we kind of knew. Yeah, they were. Yeah. I was growing up. My parents were always like, oh, my God, you're so boy crazy and i was like you're like oh and go crazy yeah you're like wait mom yeah um there's so many things happening right now because you just casually are like and then like i was gonna go live and like do it on a live stream yeah we need to get into that what the fuck
Starting point is 00:20:40 like how how did that go down i don't know I'm really impulsive and I think that was definitely an impulse thing because also when I look at that live it's so embarrassing because I'm like crying and I'm like I like girls and it's so it's just so cringe but it's also like you've got to respect it because like that's where you were in your like yeah moment of life like when I look back at myself when I'm like 18 to 20 I'm like so what was i doing like alex what are you doing so i i get you must be like oh my god why the fuck did i do that but how what was the response the response was pretty good but i think because i was like so emotional a lot of people didn't think it was real like a lot of people were like oh she's just like mocking people or like just didn't think i was
Starting point is 00:21:22 being genuine right but it was like publicity. Yeah. But it's literally just because I'm an emotional person and. And you couldn't help it. Under pressure. I just always am like, I'm going to cry. I'm going to cry. I'm going to cry. Worst comes to worst to start crying. Yeah. So the fact that you made the decision to like come out on a live like I respect you for that, but also fucking terrifying. And like there's obviously I'm sure you've thought about different ways you could have come out but like once you came out obviously expecting maybe you experienced some type of hate once you came out yeah well again i think i'm really fortunate because i do live in california and things are just way more accepted here yeah but i also think because i'm like girly girl and I'm like attracted to like girly girls.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Right, right, right, right. So I think there's like it's less of like a hate thing and more of like I feel like it's very fetishized. Oh, fetishized. Yes. Yeah. And it's that kind of makes me feel uncomfortable. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Because like I remember when I came out, my ex-boyfriend literally was like, oh, so does this mean we can have a threesome? And I was like, bro, like, first of all, no. You're like, first of all, you're my ex. You're my ex-boyfriend literally was like, oh, so does this mean we can have a threesome? And I was like, bro, like, first of all, no. You're like, first of all, you're my ex. You're my ex. Like, don't text me. Like, literally get out of my face. And like, you're never having sex with me again.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Second of all, fuck off. Third of all, fuck off. Oh, fuck. Yeah. I get. I know. That is such a good point. I've never even thought about it like that.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Like, guys fetishizing lesbians and being like oh my god it's so hot like let's see you make out I can imagine that being frustrating for you like you're saying because you're going for women that are like you're a girly girl and you're going for girly girls and maybe it's not your stereotypical lesbian couple so people are like this is so hot Maggie make out and you're like yeah so, how do you get the confidence to own your sexuality and not be so in your head that people are judging you because you're bisexual? And can you kind of like walk me through like, how do you mentally just like be okay with like, oh yeah, I am bisexual and it's amazing and I love it. And I'm not going to let anyone make me feel a certain way just
Starting point is 00:23:19 because of like what society says we should or should not do. Yeah. I mean, I feel like for me, I've definitely owned it but it does make it hard sometimes like in relationships um with boys or girls like i think sometimes being in a relationship for a long time you feel like you're missing something of like okay like i see a lot of people talking about this how they'll like be in a relationship with a guy and they'll be just like wanting a girlfriend but it's just because when you're attracted to both it's like they both bring different things to the table you know how does that has that affected your boyfriends in the past like are they insecure about it yeah my ex was definitely insecure about
Starting point is 00:23:56 it like just like well my boyfriend now is amazing he's so understanding and he's just literally the best but there's been times yeah where I think it does make guys like a little insecure because it's like oh is that just like your girlfriend or is that like a girl that you're trying to like talk to and with girls it's especially hard to tell because like if you're flirting with a guy like you get it you know but if you're flirting with a girl like girls are just like that even if you're straight like when you see a girl in the bathroom like it's like are we in love or like are you my best friend or what yeah you get like girls are just like that it's just different that is that's extremely challenging
Starting point is 00:24:31 i can imagine i think um anyone that's listening to this podcast right now that is like struggling with their sexuality struggling to like come out struggling to be like oh my god are my parents gonna literally disown me like do you have any advice for them that like you've now i know it's like only four years but still that wisdom that you've like kind of gotten over the years yeah I think it's just don't feel pressured to do anything if you feel like because I feel like a lot of the times people are like oh you just need to come out and if your parents don't accept you then like fuck it right but if you really feel like there's gonna be a bad outcome and you're not ready for that I really think think, you know, you should like consider that and just do what you need to do to get by in the moment.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Yeah. But I also think that it's really important to own yourself and like be yourself and be authentic. So I just think you need to take the time you need and just really think about it Because it is like, you know, it is a big deal to some people. I don't know. I just want to rush things. I think that's one thing that I just wish I knew when I was younger, that it's not something that I needed to label myself with. And I didn't need to.
Starting point is 00:25:37 If it's something that I wanted to keep personal, like I could keep personal, you know, I didn't need to explain. Yeah. You don't need to explain yourself to anyone, including your parents. Honestly, I think if I didn't have a platform, I probably wouldn't have ever came out to my family. That's interesting. I mean, eventually they would have like found out, but I don't think it would have been something that was so dramatic.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I genuinely think I think the main reason I wanted to come out so bad was just because I was in L.A LA and I just wanted people to know honestly like I wanted to I didn't want to keep having these like straight relationships and then like girls would just not want to talk to me because they thought I was straight that's literally like the main reason wait that is so fucking interesting can I ask you like so yeah you kind of have to put out feelers like wait guys i'm down to hook up with girl wait like i don't just like dick like i would love to hook up with you yeah and like how do you let a girl know because now that i'm thinking about it like how the fuck would they know it's so weird um i don't know i feel like it's like so weird because there are like i said
Starting point is 00:26:39 like so many straight girls will still like hook up with you and then they'll be like ah sorry i'm straight like oh my is that so annoying and it's so frustrating because it's like if you are straight like I think that's something that you should definitely tell someone yeah like early on I'm assuming have you been in situations where you've hooked up with a girl and then she's like no no no that's I'm that was like I was drunk and like we're just i'm like straight i was just it was just doing it for fun yeah it's happened drunk and not drunk okay so like yeah so sorry i'm getting no it's okay i'm pulling from this one situation specifically we were just like friends for a while okay and then she just started making a lot of like comments okay uh just like insinuating it and one night we went out to this club and we just like both got drunk and then we just like hooked up and then it was fine and then it just
Starting point is 00:27:33 like we just like kept hanging out and then we would just like hook up drunk or not drunk right so eventually like i was like oh cool like she's cute you know i was like okay yeah like maybe i'll just try it a little more and then it was like oh no she's straight i'm like oh no i'm straight like i just you're like oh you did you just black out like the past i know i'm like that's like what and we how did how did she bring that up like was she like defensive like what happens no it wasn't it was just like oh no definitely straight 100% straight then you're like so so what are you doing I'm like oh okay it didn't seem like it but but like what can you do you know yeah you can't do anything that's why it sucks though because
Starting point is 00:28:15 you're just like it's not like it's just a person that is right does like girls and then they're just like oh sorry I don't like you right it's like no I just don't like I'm just not attracted to you like that it's so fucked because the amount of like how glamorized i think it is like i remember in high school when all the girls are like let's make out and the guys are gonna think it's so fucking hot yeah and then here you are saying like you know like you're hooking up with a girl then she's like no i'm just straight and it's like no why the fuck are you hooking up with me yeah like what are you doing i don't know i it's just like getting rejected like getting rejected by anyone like getting put in a friend zone it's just like oh shit that kind
Starting point is 00:28:48 of hurts but like right when you hooked up with your first girl like were you more experienced or was she more experienced uh she was a lot of the girls are you hooking up with like are they bi or are they just lesbian um at first it was just lesbian that's so interesting yeah but there's this weird stigma around like bi girls and like the lesbian community for some reason what is that it's like this biphobia it's so weird but a lot of lesbians will not like talk like date or talk to bi girls because um because you also because you also like guys they're like penises are disgusting yeah fuck out of our faith how dare you even look at them wow but like i've met i mean the lesbians i know are great they don't
Starting point is 00:29:30 think like that but i have ran into like people that are people that are like that and they give yeah they're like oh you're bi and i'm like yeah and they're like like but obviously that's not the whole community i don't know no no Of course not. But there are a lot. It's just like this. Wow. Yeah. I love talking about real shit like depression and anxiety because everyone listening to this show, you've been fucking sad in your life, went through some type of moment where
Starting point is 00:29:57 you were feeling anxious or had anxiety. And you, Maggie, your music is really fucking depressing sometimes and um what like can you kind of I don't mean to get too dark but like how like what is your life story a little bit like where did this dark depression sadness come from like did you get bullied when you were younger like what's that uh no yeah I got bullied well i also got on instagram really early so i was on like instagram and tumblr when i was like in 2011 i think i got on literally so a long ass time oh so you were an early bird up in that bitch yeah oh whoa yeah and and okay looking back on it like i was definitely super cringy okay but it's fine oh were we all back then yeah but i'm like a kid
Starting point is 00:30:41 i'm like in middle school at this point you know what i mean like what do you expect like weren't you kind of like you almost got famous because i feel like you had like tumblr i was on tumblr that says it all yeah yeah emotions yeah and like if you were on tumblr in 2011 just by the way like the worst place oh my god wait yeah what tell us it was just i mean that's when they had like thin spose okay but actually i'm singing a lot now on like tiktok it's like the same it's like reliving it's terrible is the most unhealthy platform it's like you see how they censor like everyone looks a specific way like i read an article where they like filter out people that are overweight and then also the backgrounds if it doesn't look like you're in a rich location they filtered out really yeah and i was like wow this makes so much fucking sense
Starting point is 00:31:28 when you go on tiktok all you see is white bitches in really big mansions yeah literally what the fuck and it's mentally that fucks you and i'm like i don't understand why it literally reminds me of tumblr uh because back then i mean yeah it was like all white people like thin lips blue eyes blonde hair like that was like like the skinny that was like yeah yeah and like piercing blue eyes that was that was like the thing and there was and it was all about like thin spos and there was like self-harm pages and there was like literally i remember this is so dark but i had this like separate page where i would literally post like my progress of like my body and like my arms like my wrists when i would cut myself and people would literally be like oh my god good job you're almost at your goal weight like get
Starting point is 00:32:16 skinnier you're almost there like your cuts are looking amazing like it was so toxic and i'd be like oh i just like want to kill myself today and And they'd be like, oh, you should try this, this, this. And this is like the easiest way to just go. Do the internet. It's like, I'm like 12. Yeah. Like, wait, what's good? Did your parents know you had these social?
Starting point is 00:32:36 No. Holy fuck. Yeah. So you were posting all this shit because I think that is so crazy that you're bringing me back to the Tumblr days because I remember like seeing girls cutting themselves and it was like romanticized of like glamorized like oh my god like i'm cutting myself and i'm skinny and yeah how the like that's dark shit super dark can i ask you how long you would cut for like how like for from your life if you were that young like um i did um i think i was like 13 14 and then a little bit when i was 15 like i commend you so much for just like saying that because i like i respect you
Starting point is 00:33:14 so much like i feel like it's really hard for people obviously to talk about that i'm assuming you were going through a lot of shit yeah that's i have a tattoo on my knee it says 2013 sucked because it was the worst year of my life oh my god wait that's like kind of a dope thank you that was like the year I like went to like a mental institution and got like locked up and and um that was like my hardest year that was that was my ninth grade year so fuck dude that is that age that is the most like isolating scary times because you I don't know about you but like I remember not telling my parents about stuff at that age and you you try to hide things from them and you're an adolescent you're going through puberty like there's just so many different
Starting point is 00:33:54 things that you're trying in your life and it's like you just feel very alone yeah so you got help and then like how did you how the fuck did you become where you are? Like, your story is amazing. So like, you went through your dark times, like depression, anxiety, etc. And like, where how did you kind of like transition upwards? So I was actually like, on Instagram at that time. And I just took a really long break. And everyone was just like, Oh my god, like, did this girl like die? Like, what happened?
Starting point is 00:34:24 Right. And then I was just gone and like because i had my phone taken away from me for like ever dude that sometimes is what you need though yeah i didn't have like five months if you were on those social media channels and you had all those people like it's so fucked up when you're communicating at that age with people around the world that you don't even fucking know and like you being like oh my god your cuts look amazing today bitch it's like you get warped into it and it's hard to stop and it's like that's where like that is where the parental control like actually is like necessary because it's like
Starting point is 00:34:52 when would it have stopped and like at what cost it's so triggering it's insane it's so fucking triggering so so then you got you kind of like went off social media for a bit yeah so i literally didn't have a phone for like five months and because obviously like in this place they also you don't have a phone you don't have internet you don't have anything right um so then after that i my my dad actually had moved to san antonio like okay a year before this and so he was living there just like working and then he would like come back and forth to like my house okay um and then when that all happened my mom was like i literally cannot do this on my own like we're moving to san antonio and like we need to like be with your dad because this is like
Starting point is 00:35:36 too much for me a lot yeah and so like right after i got out we went straight to my new house like i didn't even i feel like that's good though right because it's almost like to go back to a place with such dark memories it's like you need to get the fuck out of there i'm lucky that i was able to able to have that yeah chance chance yeah and it was cool because like everyone hated me in my old school you know so why like why do you think that was they just like hated me because of my instagram they always made fun of me and they just like i don't know they just picked on me for everything that is the fucking worst when like i think that's also a lot of people's insecurity i think a lot of people i see even on tiktok nowadays it's like there are girls that are like everyone makes fun of me um for my tiktok at my school but then they're like
Starting point is 00:36:18 slowly getting famous on tiktok yeah and you go through this weird battle of wanting to post on the internet and wanting to have a life and and feeling inspired and wanting to like do something. And then yet people are so fucking mean in school. Yeah. And like it's this awful feeling where you're like, I just want to fucking leave. Like I want to live online and I don't want to be with the people like and it's just a fucked up scenario. So you got to leave. That's amazing. Yeah. yeah i mean most people i've met out here literally were like bullied it's crazy like singers social media like anyone who's like anyone out in la yeah i was bullied dude that's like where it's that's actually so fucked up it's like a bunch
Starting point is 00:36:56 of just people that like literally escaped and like came here and literally it's a bunch of people that are way accepting of each other because wherever they started it was just like a fucking shit show and you couldn't feel accepted where you were so you move and at this point are you even singing no oh my god i was like singing online but like okay at this point i'm not doing shit like i was just like mentally just trying to make it yeah i'm just trying to like live um so i moved and then i went to school in san an for like a year. And how old were you then? I was 15. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:27 And then I moved to LA when I was 16. How did you get like, like famous for singing? Like what was the one big thing that people were like, Oh, there was this video of me like joking around singing the national anthem. Shut the fuck up. And I'm like literally joking,
Starting point is 00:37:42 but there's like a few notes that I was like singing for real. That were like insane. That I actually hit. That bitch knows how to sing. Yeah. And my manager saw that and I'm like literally joking but there's like a few notes that I was like singing for real that were like insane that I actually had to say yeah and my manager saw that and he was like uh yeah can you come to the studio I want to like meet you and I want to see if you can like really sing and then from there I just moved to LA and I was like yeah any any chance I had to get the fuck out I was like bye leaving here we go wait that's amazing so you moved to la when you're 16 and like what happens there do you think that you got healthier like were you were your parents nervous for you to leave and be on your own oh yeah they were nervous like i said like my parents are really supportive and i'm really lucky because they were like go do your thing that's amazing but
Starting point is 00:38:22 yeah living in la honestly has been really helpful I think personally that's actually an amazing statement because I do feel like there are so many people that are like LA is so fucked and it's ruined me and like I'm I'm dying out here like I'll never find a real relationship but that's kind of like a refreshing thing like it helped you and I feel like you're I could so see that because of what you're saying about all the things in your life you're like you never felt accepted where you were you had this thing about your sexuality and then you're meeting people out here that are so liberated and owning what the fuck they are yeah so it must have been such a place for you where you're like wow I actually feel like I for the first time may belong somewhere yeah and that's an amazing feeling
Starting point is 00:39:00 if you had never felt that prior so you start singing when was like when did you pop off it I know one of your songs is it pretty pretty girl yeah did when do you write a lot of your songs so earlier on I wasn't writing as much okay um like I would like it was more of like my journals and we would like talk about stuff that was like more like in my diary okay but i write now like i'm like fully writing all my stuff uh but i was just like really young also i was like 16 when my first song came out oh my god and so that's like that is pretty young and i and i don't know it was just like a weird situation but for pretty girl um yeah that was like actually came out of like
Starting point is 00:39:45 a tweet and like my journal that's like how that song came about and it is that one of your biggest songs it is it is your biggest holy fuck yeah so literally from a tweet and then that like blew the fuck up yeah i like can't get over your journey i think it's like the most amazing thing that like you being so open and vulnerable first of all I just want to thank you and I know that the daddy gang will be so happy to have someone that was that open with them because like you speaking about where you were when you were younger and in high school to now I mean I think on so many different levels literally people can be like oh I could I could be like her like she
Starting point is 00:40:26 was at her fucking lowest like she was not okay and then she is where she is today and she's doing a fucking collab with travis barker and she's making music and she's doing like that to me it's like i don't care if people are like alex why did you have a singer on your show it's like that it's not about the fact that she you could be anyone it's like your story is why I think I wanted to have you on the show it's like you being so open about your sexuality and so driven and doing so many amazing things and you're 20 22 like are you fucking kidding me like I'm I'm it's an amazing story I'm so happy you came on tag yourself on Instagram uh it's just at Maggie Lind maggie thank you
Starting point is 00:41:05 so fucking much for coming on being so vulnerable i hope this inspires someone listening even if just one person took something from this that means so much to me and i know it means something to you so guys thank you give maggie some love slide into her dms make her feel comfortable when this comes out because you guys know you're fucking terrifying okay daddy gang i'm back i'm solo um maggie currently has a new song out it's called knife under my pillow and it's really fucking good so go check it out and then she has another new song coming out on friday so go support her i hope you guys enjoyed having maggie on I think it's really important to have different perspectives on. And I also think it's cool to just have people that are different than me on.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I know obviously I'm a fucking psycho, outgoing, very like energetic extrovert. And I think that I know I have a lot of different people listening to this podcast. And I think it was really cool to have Maggie who is more introverted and has lived a different life than me to come on so so go show her some love in her dms um I know that it seems easy but coming on this podcast and being that open and telling your life story is not fucking something that just comes easily it's it's trust me it's stressful as fuck so thank you again maggie so much for um coming on and sharing your story okay fuck are you guys depressed um it's sometimes you need to get a little fucking depressed we can't always be cracking fucking cum squirting jokes however however we're going to ramp it up a little bit now. Oh, fuck. I hope you enjoyed that interview.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Chalk. Rufus. Lily. Dan. Blair. Droda. Listen the fuck up. I have a little thing that I want to talk about.
Starting point is 00:43:02 All of you are cringing. Don't care. Because I got a little thing that I want to introduce about all of you are cringing don't care because i got a little thing that i want to introduce to you and i would like to call it questions questions of the motherfucking white baby questions questions of the motherfucker white baby okay guys we're fucking back i'm sorry it's been two weeks let her out let her out of the fucking cage let her run wild let her get into it questions of the motherfucking week bitches let's fucking go oh first question from a daddy gang member i love this one we're getting right into it.
Starting point is 00:43:45 I have been sending nudes back and forth with this boy who has a girlfriend that has been, they have been together for over a year and he cheats on her all the time with other girls. The girl doesn't even know anything about it yet. Last weekend, I was at this party and he was there too and we made out very intensely, but we didn't have sex so my question is should i feel bad for the girl and should i feel guilty for making out with him even though he has a girlfriend should i continue to go even further for him love you alex forever daddy gang okay i guess my first initial reaction is always like, do whatever you want sexually. But to me, I do not see the point in you spending your time on a guy that is a liar and a cheater.
Starting point is 00:44:31 You said you didn't even have sex. You don't even know if his dick game is good. And what is the point of starting something knowing he's a piece of shit? And if you think that he's going to miraculously like change for you and leave her, he won't. And you said it yourself. He cheats on her with so many girls. So like as fucked up as it is, I could see you if you were like, we're secretly in love and like his girlfriend doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:44:53 No, you're literally like he does this with so many bitches. So why do you want to be a part of a group of girls that some guy cheats on his girlfriend with? Like do better for yourself. Find a guy that you can fuck that isn't fucking 10 other girls and has a girlfriend that he cheats on I promise there are so many fucking dicks out there why are you wasting your time like it's literally like you're being told like he's a piece of shit he sucks and you don't even know if his dick game is good why are you asking me this question I love you but like come on let's let's
Starting point is 00:45:22 let's get a little better here girl when I tell you I'm a shit show and I think so many girls can relate. So let me try to summarize this as best as I can. Basically, I broke up with my recent boyfriend who ended up being a piece of shit. And my best friend was with me through it all talking shit about him and thinking of ways to ruin his life. She even made a file on her computer called ruin him filled with blackmail against him that could literally ruin his whole being. Anyways, after a couple of months, my best friend and ex started getting really close, all playing it off while like it was nothing and making me feel like I was the crazy one. After being totally disrespected and made to look like a dumb ass, my best friend and I ended up getting into a fight and long story short she fucked my ex i'm just wondering how do i expose this bitch and or get revenge because
Starting point is 00:46:10 she has been known to fuck other people over who are close to her and bully girls who come near guys she's interested in please send me some daddy gang magic okay this kind of reminds me of a situation i was in in college because I've never like had a boyfriend and then one of my friends fuck him after. But I remember when I was in college, I was so obsessed with this one guy like my freshman and sophomore year. I had my eye on this guy that for some reason I just like personality wise was like, wait, I feel like I'm obsessed with him. Like I really want to hook up with him. And my best friend in college literally made fun of me 24 seven for having a crush on him. Like it was to the point where she was like, he's disgusting. Like he's so ugly. Like, like she would, she would say mean shit.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Like he looks like he's problems. Like he's fun. And she would put me down for liking this guy and so I always felt so weird I'm like why does she why is she so vocal about like how gross he is when I'm like he's not like he gets with a lot of girls like I don't I don't understand so that was my freshman and sophomore year fast forward to my junior year of college I found out through one of his friends that my friend ended up fucking him secretly and like I was living with this girl and I found out that the guy that for my first two years who I
Starting point is 00:47:31 was obsessed with she and she put down 24 7 and she fucked him and she never told me like this was literally my best friend in college and I just remember like in the heat of the moment you want to walk up to those bitches and be like you are literally disgusting good for you to fuck but like don't ever ever fucking put me down when you just spread your fucking pussy lips for what his disgusting dirty dick that you claim was so fucking nasty well guess what I didn't fuck him you did so who's the fucking gross ass bitch now but I think it's almost like with those kind of girls what is the point to go after them like literally it just you seem like such a bigger person if you just never fucking speak to them again and when they come if they do end up coming at you or come for you and they're like why are you why have you been so distant like why are
Starting point is 00:48:22 you being so weird those are the type of situations where you're like, I don't need drama and I'm not trying to be a bitch, but like, you are just not the type of girl that I fuck with. And I do not want to be around because you're just not a trustworthy person. And that to me is like the ugliest version of a person. And then you walk the fuck away and you never talk to that bitch again. Girls who get like ghosted by other girls girls like that shit hurts more than getting called the fuck out I mean obviously you can like get in a fucking cat fight and go at her at a party I've had my moments where like I verbally am fucking abusing a bitch but it's like that's very
Starting point is 00:48:56 kind of immature and like I've grown out of it and I'm telling you like looking back on it like you don't need to do that the best revenge is honestly like why waste your breath she's not worth it if she did that shit like your words will mean nothing to her she's just like doesn't respect you so why even give her the time of day my boyfriend wants me to suck his dick until i literally throw up on him is that supposed to be hot i think i would literally die of embarrassment is that just me is throwing up on a guy's dick a thing i don't know about please let me know i'd love to hear from the sexperts love you alex okay here's the thing first of all if he is the one telling you he wants you to throw up on his dick if he is the one that's saying he literally wants
Starting point is 00:49:36 you to vomit first of all then you fucking can do it like when a guy is into nasty shit there's nothing wrong you can do and if he's verbally telling you he wants you to choke on his dick till you throw up, you can absolutely go for it, choke on his dick and throw up. The point of it being hot for a guy, I think, is that it means that you are literally taking his dick so far to the back of your throat that you can literally not breathe and it's hitting your fucking larynx and you are vomiting on his fucking cock because it's so far down your fucking throat so to a guy that's like nasty and into it yeah he's like fuck bitch like take all of me i think it's kind of hot
Starting point is 00:50:15 hey alex the daddy of all daddies obviously i am. Okay. And I really want to buy a vibrator for my girl slash hookup slash girlfriend. Wait, you have a girl and your hookups and your girlfriend. Or does he mean just like anyone that he's in? Okay. I don't know. Will a girl full blown send it for the O even though it's not her vibrator? Or will she be skeptical about where the vibrator has been oh this is such an interesting question because i know like i know that there are
Starting point is 00:50:53 men that love to have sex toys in their room and they bring them out for bitches but i also know as a chick if a guy just on our first hookup full-blown whipped out a vibrator i'd be like so that's your ex-girlfriend or that's your current girlfriend that like you're just hiding all of her picture frames and you're fucking like nightstands like what's going on what I would do if I were you I would buy a vibrator okay and when the first time that you hook up with her I would pretend that you don't have it okay after your first hookup like literally in person I would make a comment to her after you fuck saying something like next time you want to get like weird with her and like you want to surprise her next time with something so she knows you're like
Starting point is 00:51:38 planning something which is kind of cool if I was in that situation I'd be like oh fuck okay and then the next time you guys fuck have the vibrator and basically pretend that you bought it for her obviously fucking buy it and use it on all your bitches but on the first hookup you don't use it and then the second hookup after you make the comment then you slide it in boom you guys this girl titled her anonymous name the snap squirter and she just goes hey daddy so i just accidentally posted a video of me squirting talking dirty on my snap story the phone was slippery you know how do i come back from this i fucking love this honestly you it's one of those things you can't come back from but you own it you're like no i was squirting on my fucking story what were you doing on
Starting point is 00:52:25 wednesday night like what are you up to bro i swear to god if anything all the guys on your fucking story are gonna be like okay this bitch i want to fuck and then all the girls are gonna be low-key jealous and be like wait how the fuck do you squirt literally they're gonna be sliding in being like wait bitch how do you squirt honestly though i i just don't eat you there's nothing you can fucking do those are one of those moments you have to look back and be like i'm alive i'm breathing i'm healthy shit happens you move the fuck on i love you i'm so sorry that is i'm so sorry that is horrifying but shit fucking happens is it wrong to be in a serious relationship when you're young
Starting point is 00:53:01 ah i feel like this whole podcast is about being single and happy and hooking up with random guys to find out what you like but I really love the guy that I'm dating right now and I have no desire to hook up with anyone else is it wrong to date and fall in love with someone when you're young should I end it just so I can hook up with multiple people find out what I like and be happy on my own okay here's thing. If you are in love at a young age and you are genuinely satisfied, you should stay in that relationship. That's great. I think where the tricky part comes and what I urge people to do is like, there are just too many people that get into relationships and write in saying, I feel like I should have explored more. And I feel like I really wish that
Starting point is 00:53:43 I could have hooked up with more people. I lost my virginity to this person and now I'm going to spend the rest of my life with them. I just want to experience life. I know it sounds corny, but we have one fucking life. And there are some people that are down to just fuck one person and they're like, I love you. This is it. One dick wonder. But there are also other people that are like, I need to try a couple different pussies.
Starting point is 00:54:04 I need to try a couple different dicks. And that to try a couple different dicks and that's fine it's literally just what you're into so I don't think you should feel bad listening to this podcast if you're happy and you're in love good for you um I just urge you to like don't ever stay in something the minute you have a weird little gut feeling like oh I kind of wish I was then that's when you should get out but no if you're in love fucking go for it my boyfriend and I have been dating for over a year now and I just feel like he's getting very comfortable and doesn't seem excited to see me and doesn't seem to know who he's really got what should I do I'm not going to break up with him because I love him but I do wish he would pursue me more how do I hint and make him realize he should be trying harder
Starting point is 00:54:42 okay well this fucking sucks. I just feel like once you get into like that little like period where like it's not fun and crazy anymore, it's like the scariest part. Like dating is nothing compared to once you get into the fucking relationship stage and keeping that shit fucking fresh. It's like that is the real scary part. But if I could give you advice,
Starting point is 00:55:01 I think that from relationships that I've had, I would urge you for you to do something crazy and aggressive and different. Because a lot of times when you're like, he's not pursuing me, you got to think like, but have you pursued him lately? Like, have you dressed up in lingerie and like showed up for him one night? Because honestly, sometimes guys do get lazy once they're in relationships. And if you and so do girls. So if you aren't being aggressive and you aren't pursuing him and he doesn't feel wanted, then why would he do the same for you?
Starting point is 00:55:36 You know what I mean? So I would just check yourself and be like, hey, like maybe you should do a little fun, cute night for him. And then all of a sudden he's like, oh, fuck, my bitch is she wants it and then he's gonna reciprocate okay so funny story basically i hooked up with this guy for the first time division one football player and the sex was really good and kinky shit was going down your basic chains and whips i don't think he could get any kinkier until after when i got home he dead ass asked me if I could suck a fruit roll up off his dick and so my question is when I do this do I eat the fruit roll up before or after he finishes
Starting point is 00:56:12 that's a good question I um think what I would do is I would have it wrapped on his dick and I think as you're giving him head and when you're coming off his dick at times, like when you're slurping up, I would take parts of it and unwrap it and pull it off and put it in your mouth and then go back down on his dick. And when you're coming back up, like swallow the piece that's in your mouth when you get to the top, I think that would be super hot. So you slowly you're taking it off as you're giving him head. And then eventually, cause I feel like once he comes the fruit roll up being still on his dick it's like uh i'm in my post-nut clarity i kind of want that shit off so if i were you throughout the blow job take that shit off and eat it and be swallowing it
Starting point is 00:56:55 also i kind of think it would be really hot if you took a piece off it depends how kinky is but he sounds kinky i would take a piece off rub it on your pussy and then put it up and have him eat it in his mouth i think that could be kind of hot all right daddy gang that is it for this mother fucking week's episodica um i missed you all i truly truly truly had fun today i hope i know we got a little deep and i know we had different topics and I hope you guys enjoyed that episode. Next week, I'm going to dive a little bit more into what's going on with your girl. Go follow me on social media.
Starting point is 00:57:35 It's Alexandra Cooper. Go follow my YouTube channel. I just put a vlog up and go follow Call Her Daddy on Instagram and Twitter and all the things. I love you guys. Don't forget to keep writing questions in. If you go to barstool.com and you go to call her daddy you just write in a question and then i find you and i read you and it's anonymous so don't worry about getting exposed daddy gang i fucking love you so much you know the motherfucking drill i will see
Starting point is 00:57:58 you fuckers next one I'm out.

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