Call Her Daddy - 95- Mental Terrorism (ft. The Bitch Bible)

Episode Date: September 16, 2020

This week, Alex discusses the scary reality that is now life in isolation. She explains the affects that the time alone has had on her love life, the two 30 year-old men she is currently dating, her journey towards health and the battle she’s facing in attempting to leave the crazy behind and in her past. THERE IS ALSO A GUEST THIS WEEK. Introducing, Jackie Schimmel, who is the host of ‘The Bitch Bible’ Podcast. The women discuss the strange rule that goes a little something like this- If you can’t joke about divorce, cheating, or breaking up with your partner, then you are getting a divorce, getting cheated on, or getting broken up with by your partner!!! Joking about divorce is the ultimate way to a healthy marriage; Jackie can attest because she is in fact married! They also discuss cringe influencers overdoing swipe up ads, Tik-Tokers vs their personal 15 year old awkward phases, and a traumatic sexual experience that Jackie endured on a date, which included a man humping her leg, squatting, and cumming. Enjoy Daddy Gang!!!!!

Do you call him daddy? Do I call her daddy? Call her daddy. Oh baby, what the fuck is up wiener holes? It is your father back at it again for another episode of Call Her Daddy. It is Alex Cooper. I, yes, am hungover. Thank you for asking.

I have been drinking a little too much in the past few months of quarantine. And I think that's probably something I was going to say. Hopefully everyone can relate to. But I also know the daddy gang. You guys like who am I kidding? You guys tag me in your fucking stories on Instagram. And I'm like watching you guys get absolutely fucking hammered in your living rooms by yourselves. I'm like, that is my gang. Hello.

Here's just like a little food for thought. Come for throat. Oh, oh, zinger. Come for throat. That's the new food for thought. Come for throat. Oh, oh, zinger. Come for throat. That's the new food for thought. Come for throat. I want you to all pause for a minute because I was having this introspective moment and I want you all to share this with me.

What is going on? Did summer even happen? Hey, guys, did anyone enjoy a summer? Just everyone take a minute. I feel like I blacked out and I woke up and I'm walking down the street and I see fucking Halloween costumes and Halloween decorations.

And I'm like, in what world are we? Because I miss the part where like I went to a beach. You know what I mean? Like it was like everyone went like once maybe or not even and then it was like get the fuck back inside because you probably have corona. So it's kind of depressing and I'm staring out the Halloween shit

and I'm just realizing every holiday is about to go past us. Like Halloween's about to show up. Oh, let me guess what I'm going to be doing for Halloween. I'm going to be dressed up like a motherfucking cornucopia sitting in my living room on my cum stained couch by myself what live streaming a Halloween party I don't think so that doesn't sound too appealing to me I don't know I just like I'm kind of having like a fucking mental breakdown over here and I assume other people can relate it's just such a weird fucking time in the world because it was just summer but it wasn't like we all blacked out and now we're hitting a

period of time like september everyone's supposed to be going back to school like back to school shopping and going to college like younger daddy gang is like getting into school that's not fucking fun right now if you're in college i am so fucking sorry like in how are you supposed to go to the bar and get fingered under the fucking table and like flirt with the seniors like you have a mask on and then I'm over here in New York and it's like people are supposed to be coming back from the Hamptons and like going back to their day jobs at the office. And it's just a little terrifying. Like, I don't want to start bawling my eyes out on this comedy podcast, but I'm not going to lie. I think I'm going to kind of fucking miss seeing bitches like with their stupid pumpkin spice latte. Am I going to miss seeing girls in their infinity scarves? Am I

going to miss the tight and the skirt ratio and the girls and the pumpkin patches and the fucking Christmas photos and Santa? It is scary. I'm freaking the fuck out over here. And New York is fucking depressing. Don't think for a second that I haven't been mental breakdown 24 seven to my therapist being like, what do I do when it comes winter? She's like, everything's going to be fine. I'm like, stop lying to my face. I pay you for a reason. Be honest. She's like, no, it's going to be fine. I'm like, nothing is fine. Think about me in my apartment, big, small, whatever it is by myself living alone in the winter time in New York city. I cannot go outside. Okay. And listen, I honestly know so many people have it so much fucking worse than me but like let me just go here for a minute because I know everyone else must be freaking the fuck out

like this shit is not good this is not normal we don't like this and I want life to go back to normal I am begging it to go back to normal and I know I think that's why I'm freaking out even more and I think everyone can relate it's like it's not gonna go back to normal and like we are now having to enter an era where like there is not a catfish anymore it's a mask fish I was thinking about this the other day my friend literally said she goes to Target she's flirting with this guy socially distance of course they have their masks on he accidentally kind of brushes near his ear mask pops down he has no two front teeth and that's not a fucking lie in Target obviously I don't know if you should like pick up your lover in target but moral of the story is you don't even know anymore we don't know what's going on in the world we don't know what's going on

behind masks i'm fine i'm sorry i'm freaking the fuck out but like so many people had plans the amount of people that were gonna have weddings and now they're having them in their fucking backyards if i was like i just don't know I don't know personally for me if I would postpone it until I was able to have like a normal wedding but also do you if you were a backyarder and like you had your wedding like that shit slaps I guess too like what else are you gonna do you know what I mean it's also fucking weird because last week I casually dropped like yeah I'm trying to be healthy and all of you were like wow like we're so excited for you and here's the thing at the beginning of quarantine motherfuckers you remember I was like

everybody listen up stock up your fridges and stock up your fucking rosters you whores quarantine is coming and we need a bunch of texting buddies and people to just like keep us from boredom now it's seven months later and it's been a hell of a grueling seven months to say the least but I did come to the realization during that time and I'm like most of the men that I was entertaining on that godforsaken roster. How many times, and I ask you, Daddy Gang, look in, look in because I know I encourage you to have a roster, but now I'm asking you, how many fucking times can our assholes round off back handspring and plop the fucking pussy down on the iPhone screen for some nasty old FaceTime sex with a body that you don't have

any fucking feelings for. Shocking that this is coming out of my mouth. Yes, but I'm at the point of my life, especially in quarantine, where I'm like, I need a little bit of zest. I need a little bit of zest. And if I'm saying zest as feelings, I don't give a fuck zest feelings same fucking thing I finally just started getting fucking bored of entertaining bodies that I was like uh if you disappeared tomorrow Casper the ghost I wouldn't even fucking blink I wouldn't even probably realize and so I snapped I cracked I cracked what is that from Mean Girls Gretchen Wieners I cracked and I'll never forget the day when this all like hit me like a ton of bricks. It wasn't like a gradual process. It was one of those things where I woke up one morning and I was like, I am disgusted. I need to throw out every single fucking person on that roster. And I had therapy that day and

I looked my therapist dead in the fucking eyes over Zoom of course and i was like therapist woman i don't want to say her name therapy woman i feel empty i literally feel empty and i'm bored and then the wise ass that she is she came back at me and she hits me where it fucking hurts she's like alex why don't you have someone fill you up? I'm like, listen, I am on birth control, but sometimes I get worried about them coming beside me. She's like, Alex, emotionally. I'm like, oh, okay. No, but I gave it a go.

Sue me. Alex, you're giving it a go-sy. Yes. Shut up. Okay. I'm trying it. I'm giving it a go. And currently right now, or for the past few months, I have been up. Okay. I'm trying it. I'm giving it a go. And currently right now, or for the past few

months, I have been pouring. Okay. And pouring because it is a fucking journey. I have been pouring health into two specific relationships right now. I've talked about both of these men and their characters on the show before they're both in their thirties.s. And let me just tell you, folks, life as we know it is changing because I can sit here and I can get dark and I can get scary and I can manipulate and block and leave on read and manifest true psychotic games that will definitely shake a man to his fucking core in a way that I used to want the results wise as like, yes, that's exactly what I wanted. I wanted him to quake. I wanted him to quake. But when you are trying to currently, as I am not only try to be healthy, but also engage in semi-help in the 30

year old bracket. Okay. There's this little beautiful saying. And it's know your audience. Alex what do you mean. We're your audience. No the people that I'm dating. I need to know my audience. The college playbook isn't fucking slapping anymore. For me folks.

Because when I'm fucking around with these 30 year olds. And oh it's great they've got the jobs. And the security and all the things. But the games don't work and so for example if I'm like blocking him in the middle of conversations while he's fucking typing he's gonna think it's a he's gonna think it's a technical difficulty he's not even gonna realize he was just blocked like the times change depending on what kind of person you're talking to the dark truth daddy gang is like this is not an overnight process I can't just wake up and flip the switch and be like I'm healthy you have 80 plus episodes of me

being like you block you cheat you fuck his dad It's not going to all of a sudden be like, and now we're processing down the aisle and I'm in my wedding gown. So I'm happy that I can bring you guys on this new adventure with me. But I'm not going to lie and be like, oh, this is super easy. Like, here we go. Here's a beautiful example. I'm in LA. I'm on a dinner date. Everything is fine. I am pure health. Okay. Unwell starts to kick in. The brain starts to turn. He's saying

all these things. He's too complimentary. He's being so generous. He's paying for everything. He's treating me like a princess he's talking about the future he's making plans and right in that very moment I look him dead in the eye and I was like I want you to tell me every single girl you've ever dated and I want you to show me a picture of every single one of them on Instagram right now he's like this is before we even get a cocktail on the table folks and he's like what he's like I'm sorry i just did you just black i'm like i blacked out but it doesn't change the facts show me the fucking pictures and hand the phone over and then after and when i tell you daddy gang this man proceeds to show me all seven of his serious

girlfriends through his life and i'm sitting there also seven is kind of a lot. That's a hefty roster. Hold on. Note to self. Ask about the amount because that seems like, okay. So he does proceed to show me everything. I told my mom this and she just kind of like blankly stared at me. I kept this off of the therapy. I didn't tell my therapist because I knew she'd be like, now, Alex, that's weird. I'm like

no it's information because you know what that is that's healthy where I now don't have to go put myself through the work to do the research and to get on the fake account and to look and to stalk and to pile through it was nice I was up front I told him what I wanted and he fucking gave it to me this episode has turned so fast um no but so he shows me all of his ex-girlfriends and then right after he's like okay so like now like tell me all of yours and like tell me every guy that you've ever dated and I completely disregard everything he said I look at him as if he's speaking Chinese to me and I look away and I said what are we going to get to drink baby and he lets it go you gotta have occasional occasional psychosis and then for

the rest of the night this bitch was just hell so so what I'm saying right now is, I don't know. I think that you can't just wake up one day and be Mary. Okay. Mary, the mother of Jesus. You have to occasionally be Mary Magdalene, a little slutty, a little out there, but when you can combine the two, this is what I'm saying, daddy gang, I'm crossing enemy lines so that I can genuinely find out. We penetrate the heart. We are healthy. We look for real relationships, but we never forget who we truly are inside. We never forget the dark passenger.

And when you combine the two, that is where you can move forward in the world. Because I truly believe you have to always play games and relationships a little bit and since we're trying to add a little bit of health now we're just pulling back a tiny bit on the games but we're still keeping them but we're allowing for room for health bone apple a guest on and this woman is married. Okay. If we're ever going to talk about relationships and marriage, I truly believe that this guest who is married, she's out of her fucking mind. She's going to text me like, so I don't appreciate the name calling. She's out of her fucking mind and honestly is quite psychotic in her relationship with her husband. But she has found this perfect balance to continue the fun psychotic games and psychosis while also enjoying and maintaining a healthy marriage.

What a fucking time. That's the goal. That is the fucking goal. So let's learn. Let's listen. Open the ears because clearly we have a long way to go. Daddy gang. The name is Jackie Schimmel. There she is. And daddy gang, I know I constantly every week, I'm just kind of like really bitching to you guys being like, so I don't know how to podcast

alone. We're figuring it out. The thing that is so beautiful about this woman is she herself podcast alone and i think that there are two narcissists sitting in the room staring at each other introducing jackie schimmel hello darling this is wild isn't it wild it literally is so crazy because i i'm not gonna say i feel like i'm looking at an older version of myself but i feel like it's like hey fuck you you are so old like jackie um no but like you've been like i actually am so insulted how did you start this interview with this you fucking cunt fuck um no daddy gang jackie has been literally doing this for six years yeah and like how you know what i mean i don't know right like kind of blacking out going through it i mean i can't listen to early episodes because i just sound like such a

dumb fuck so okay i had nothing to lose because literally nobody was listening that is the you're like not even my husband like fuck no one that is okay this is why i am so on the same page the episode that is like our most downloaded episode is the Gluck Gluck 9000 where I teach girls how to give a blow job. And you would have to literally put a gun to my head and I still won't listen to it because I know. Like I think my voice is affected.

I sound so fucking annoying. I mean, go listen to it because it's great tips. But for me. Tips and tricks, before you know. Check it out, guys. Episode three. So I'm up to shop. Please, please, please.

Thank you. But podcasting alone is very difficult. And Jackie and I were just talking about this on her episode. You guys should go listen to it. Her podcast is The Bitch Bible. But then once you start having guests, you think you don't like you're like, oh, I don't know if I like to podcast alone. But Daddy Gang, I kind of love my solo episodes.

And Jackie, the narcissist, was just saying she does too. Love them. You love to talk about yourself. You love to talk just by yourself. Oh, it's so self-indulgent. Like people tell you how funny it is and you have no one else to give credit to except yourself. It's amazing.

It's incredible. It feels like a therapy session. I do it out of my house at like six in the morning. Oh, six in the morning? Oh, yeah. Oh, wait. Rise and grind. You're like really hard this week, one episode.

How long are your episodes usually? Like an hour. Okay, cool. There are two reasons I really wanted Jackie on the show. Number one, because she talks so much shit. And I was like, oh my God, I don't know someone that talks more shit than me, than Jackie. And it's just a constant, like, not not even negative but it's just like everything that you fucking hate you just spew into this microphone then you press upload and there are some people

it's not for listen I have a lot of people that are sure you know they hate they hate that yeah then if you get the humor it's the best humor and I consider myself like a super positive human being i literally think all of your fans are like so jackie you need therapy because no girlfriend because i'm not hiding any aspect of my personality and i do think that talking shit bonds people and i think when you put it out in the universe it doesn't have that much weight so i wanted you to come on and talk shit with me and then two you guys Jackie is married and this is gonna start to sound backwards but just you know just just buckle up buckle up guys so when I met Jackie I told her that I knew that she was in a healthy relationship and the reason I knew that okay everyone are you ready is because Jackie is constantly I mean every day all day all day um threatening to divorce her husband on social media is taking videos being

like I'm gonna fucking leave your ass like I'm so ready for a divorce and now all of you are quaking if you don't know Jackie you're like all right we love the toxic Alex but so like that's not healthy but Jackie does it and I said I knew they had a good relationship because if you can joke about divorce with your husband you have never been closer it's only not funny if we were actually about to get a divorce. Wait, right? I don't understand how people can't wrap their brains around this. Because I get so many messages being like, it's not funny. You shouldn't joke about divorce.

And I'm like, why the fuck not? I talk about everything else. I make jokes about everything. If I wasn't, that would be a major red flag. I'd be protecting something i can make divorce jokes because we're not getting a fucking divorce it's funny we love each other that's not funny no that's actually such a good point like you want a montage on your birthday right like oh to the love of my life my soulmate those people get divorced no you are spitting facts on this

podcast thank you jackie thank you welcome everyone if you cannot joke think about this Most people get divorced. No, you are spitting facts on this podcast. Thank you, Jackie. Thank you for coming. Everyone, if you cannot joke, think about this for a minute. If you cannot, one, let's reel it back. We're not married yet. If you can't joke about like, oh, wow, are you cheating on me? Oh, you're definitely cheating. If you can't make a joke, think why? Because you think he may be doing it.

Because it's too close to home. It's only not funny because it's personal. Because it's fucking happening to you,'s only not funny because it's personal because it's fucking happening to you you loser okay like look inward like look inward exactly how does that make you that's the hot button issue like if it's too close to you you can't make jokes about it exactly so all the bitches are like yeah it's really rude you joke about divorce i'm like let me guess you're on the verge of one you stupid bitch by the way i'm having a gay old chuckle over here right so it's not funny to you and also it's like i think specifically that it's like why do people

care so much that you joke about divorce it's your fucking relationship and you just keep chugging how long have you been married uh we have been together nine years and married three okay here we go here come on let's let's break this down a little bit because here on Call Her Daddy. And no breaks. Okay. We've never done a break. We never broke up for a day. None of the things.

I have so many questions. Guys, you're like, wow, Alex is sitting with like a healthy human. Oh, let's not get crazy. I was going to say, I'm not going to take it that far. But the fact that you are in a marriage. First of all, just the concept is so crazy to me. Here on Call Her Daddy, I'm like, wait, you guys, did you hear that? This is wild.

Can you kind of walk us through why you think your marriage is flourishing? Why do you think you have a healthy marriage? Well, I would never say publicly that my marriage is flourishing because I think that's so cringe cringe and embarrassing and disgusting. I love that. And also like not likable or good for downloads no no no we need the drama you're constantly on the verge of divorce I'm clicking on that episode you're like we're in love I'm like shut the fuck up I don't care by the way I never go on a podcast

and I'm like me and Andrew are just like so connected right now like that stays in the vault I would never I would never no I like that I would never do that to myself, my listeners, or my husband because that is just like, it's just not my style. It's not. It's gross. I think we work because we are, he just totally gets my sense of humor. He's not like a massive like participant in it, but he gets me. Like he, I wouldn't say that he's the funniest person I've ever met.

I think I'm the funniest person I've ever met. You're like, I'm so in love with myself. Jackie and I were talking about this on our show. We both love me. You're like, we have one thing in common, and it's I love myself, and he loves me, and it works. It works. I'm totally 150% myself around him, and nothing shakes him him and nothing jolts him. I say the craziest shit all day long and he just, he laughs when he thinks it's funny. He doesn't laugh when he doesn't think

it's funny. He rolls his eyes. You know, the coyotes keep howling, the train keeps a fucking moving. Wait, can I ask you like, when did you like first become like comfortable with him to like poop in front of him? I've never pooped in front of him oh my god wait but he like knows that you're pooping 100 i make him leave the house actually i'm sorry what we have separate pooping bathrooms both of which are not in our master bathroom i don't let him poop in the master i don't poop this is such a healthy i want this this is the thing i could i have i can't i'm like i don't want him to ever see me in that moment not that he's gonna sit in the bathroom and watch you fucking take a poop but that's unnecessary so you have different bathrooms and you make him leave the house can you elaborate on that a little bit uh yes sure so if he like i can do it when he's

sleeping yes but if i hear him in the house anxiety my butthole just closes like it's closed for business indefinitely right i can't do it get stage fright. So if I'm trying to go and he's, you know, vertical and around the house, I have to make him leave. Or I'll be like, could you like stay upstairs? Or could you like put your headphones on? Or I'll say like, we were just in Napa for the week, which is, you know, and I was really eating and drinking my ass off. Right, right, right. So you're ready to go. I needed to're in a hotel room in a hotel room how does that go down so i make him take the dog for a walk and i text him when he can come back this is iconic and i'm like you have to leave for 15 minutes and i will text you when you can come back oh or you could be like

don't talk to me like we were in one hotel room it was very close quarters and the door it wasn't a door it was a sliding farm door no lock and there was oh my god there was the door didn't even touch the ground so he could see my feet oh that's not cute oh that's not cute as my toes curl up and i'm white knuckling it because i haven't go to the bathroom in six days i wanted to die oh my god okay so this is amazing though that i actually love that i think i'm gonna care listen if i ever get married i'm gonna take that from you i am going to instill that we have different bathrooms and i think it's great that you're like you need to leave and i'll text you i talked about this on jackie's episode but i want to talk to you daddy about it because i just want everyone like i just like to like keep my listeners in the

know and i brought up brielle byerman this poor girl what is that how you say her name no i'm in i'm beer man i'm just but i like that twist on it like a little like oh okay by a man um i'm only bringing her up and i'm not trying to shit on her but it actually turns out it comes off like i'm shitting on her but daddy gang i was just talking about instagram when people are doing too many swipe ups and yeah what do you what is your take on swipe ups I think it's a slippery slope yeah I think that self-awareness is key in all aspects of social media I also say that influencers are common day prostitutes I feel like I can say that because podcasters are

also prostitutes we're all prostitutes oh this is a good can say that because podcasters are also prostitutes. We're all prostitutes. Oh, this is a good self-awakening moment for me. It's true. We're selling ourselves. Yes. Selling ourselves. Yes. And I think that there is a level of cringe when all you're providing is selling things and hair care gummies and booze and cellulite things treatments and lip glosses and eyelashes it's like there has to be some juxtaposition where you're actually uh giving opinions thoughts making people laugh making people think providing a product of your own intellectual uh property yeah then just selling shit like hey god and with that fucking vocal fry oh it's like hey guys the tiktok voice is what really kills me now what's the tiktok voice the tiktok voice is like three things you need from whole foods right

now the guacamole super low sugar and great on tortilla chips vegan mushrooms that's actually so accurate and then the instagram one is like hey guys like soft like hey guys like hey guys hey guys i want to take a second to talk to you about my and then but the tiktok is very it's a different it's a different thing is kind of terrifying because i i don't understand i know it's like everyone says it's like how do these people look like this and they're 15 years old oh my god when I was of tiktok age I had like crippling gingivitis and adhesive what is gingivitis I was allergic to the cement from the braces from my braces okay so I had inflamed gums and I had an adhesive headgear that's why I never went to sleepovers but I could not the one that went all the way like the not the neck one i had one that

that literally peel and stick to the forehead wait i'm sorry what and then it like a chin guard i was like sorry i can't make the sleepover maddie because i'm like literally i can't find my headgear foaming at the mouth wait so you had gingivitis is that what it's called sorry yeah something like that and then what else were you working with at that age? I had adhesive headgear. I had a really, really debilitating personality. It was all of the things. I thought I was literally Keri Russell and Felicity, but that's just me.

So you thought you – no. Isn't that so sad when you look back at pictures and you're like, I was disgusting. Disgusting. And then the girls nowadays are so hot. What is in the water? How did did they all how do they look like kaya gerber yes what the fuck i don't know why it kind of makes me upset i'm like how's that girl 15 i looked like a fucking loser when i was 15 no but awkward stages are so necessary they are everyone needs one because it it humbles you and it like makes you have a better personality yes then the nines and the tens yes because then humbles you and it like makes you have a better personality

yes then the nines and the tens yes because then the nines and the tens are just walking around they've never had a hard day in their life whereas if you were uglier when you were younger it's like i've been through shit like you really got to dial up the chutzpah when you've got adhesive headgear yeah like no one wants to invite jackie to the sleepover because like that's the girl with the fucking headgear like she foams a lot and like she keeps us up at night a lot of excess saliva so like so it kind of like forms and like shapes you to be who you are today um I am obsessed with this story that Jackie brought to me and it's this story I'm gonna let you tell it because daddy gang I think we've had a lot of people who genuinely have had very strange experiences and obviously having

someone on call her daddy i'm like you need to share your weird experience and this story is genuinely i want to hear it again and again and again and i have so many questions still to the sake continue here we go this is a safe place obviously everyone's like whoa here we go it's the tale as old as time it's the folklore of the west hollywood leg humper happened to me nearly a decade ago i was dating this guy on paper perfection like i it was the best first date i had ever had in my entire life like we just clicked connected the banter was great. The chemistry was there. Was he hot? Very, very attractive. Okay. Very attractive.

And just like such a cool, just a cool guy. Like great energy. The best energy. So already we're in a situation where it's like first dates can be such a flop. And even if you like someone, sometimes the energy is like, oh, it's a little awkward because we're first meeting. You had this amazing, amazing first date. Instant chemistry. this could be it this could be the one I really felt that way and I was like just spreading my seed as they say all over town at that time oh really

really didn't want to have a boyfriend wanted to have like eight boyfriends oh so you were like kind of hoeing it up as one should absolutely 100% I was just trying to get all the meals and all the things. Of course. Yes. Like maximize. Absolutely. You got your brunch guy, your dinner guy, like, you know, day trip guy.

A hundred percent. Like, listen, girls got to eat. Girls got to eat. I'll give the pussy for some dinner. Right. So we hit it off. Everything was great. Like he took me to like a work event.

I met family. I met friends. Really like right off the jump. And on our third or fourth date, we went to dinner. Again, a great date. Conversation flowing. I got my own appetizer. That's a big deal when you're 20.

You're like, bitch, I'm rich. I'm like, I am Anna Nicole Smith. You're like, I'm living my best life. He's hot. Right. I'm happy I'm like I am literally Anna Nicole Smith yeah you're like I'm living my best life he's hot right and I'm happy age appropriate so um we finished dinner and we're waiting in the valet and he kind of like whisks me off into a dark corner we start like making out and everything's great and I was going to go back to his apartment for the first time oh and he starts to uh move lower you know like lower like below my eyeline okay you know deep diving deep diving you're like are you about to eat me out i was like what the fuck is going on and then i thought maybe he dropped something i was tying

my shoe or oh a shoe yes or maybe it was like maybe my shoe was undone maybe he's fixing it chivalry not dead i don't know then um then he took his flaccid genitalia flaccid at the time but not for long and started denim on denim i was wearing jeans he was also wearing jeans so there was a little friction and he got down low and he started to uh dry hump my kneecap to fruition and it was like pump pump pump it was less of a pump and more of more of an upward grind but his head was around like his head was like below my breasts okay because he didn't because you know you have to use like a lot of stabilizers like he was like in a squat position so his legs were spread like in a sumo squat okay he's sumo down leg oh so he's sumo squatting humping the leg and he's just one leg, by the way, not two.

It wasn't a double. It wasn't a gang thing. It was a solo femur fucking. He got down low and he braced himself on my little gorgeous leg. Little gorgeous kneecap. And just it was like an upward grind. Oh, like an up, like ooh, ooh, ooh. And then eventually came. grind. Oh, like an up, like ooh, ooh, ooh. And then eventually came.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. And then, but in the mid, like, I should say, before he really got, before he really got going, he looked up at me and was like, is this okay? And I said, sure. Oh, Jackie, why did you say yes? Did you really know what he was about to do? No.

You're like, yeah, what are you doing? He's like, watch. I had, I didn't know what he was about to do no you're like yeah what are you doing he's like watch I had I didn't know what he was about to do so I was like okay and then he started going and I was like honestly this feels like great time management you're like I don't have to do anything I just stand sitting here I had a blackberry at the time I think I was playing that brick breaker you're like literally playing brick breaker like are you almost done down there and then like what did you do with your hands at the beginning I was I was so confused that I was playing that brick breaker game. You're like literally playing brick breaker. Are you almost done down there? And then like what did you do with your hands? At the beginning, I was so confused that I was like fiddling around in my purse. And then I remember thinking, but he wasn't making eye contact with me.

He was looking down. It's a little pat pat on the top of the head. So I was like, should I get involved? But I felt so separated from the lower half of my body he was doing his own thing down there yes I didn't want to like disrupt whatever was happening between clearly he knows what he's doing when he has done this before you can tell this is this man's thing 1000% because I had met him before we started dating and I kept thinking to myself how the fuck is this guy single like he's such a catch but now now we know. But now you know.

He literally goes. And the fact that you're kind of. He's a leg humper. No, he's a leg humper. Yeah. And he comes from humping the leg. And he comes quick. Which is nice.

Let's just say it was a couple grinds and he was fucking splooging all in those. It was three pumps and a squirt. Yeah. And but did you see him after? Multiple, multiple times. That's really good, Jackie. And did he hump the leg again? So I thought maybe, hey, he had too much to drink.

Maybe he was seeing things. Maybe he was hallucinating. That's what I thought. But then it happened a couple more times. And I was really like trying to get over it, which I love about me. I think you're like, there's just this one thing everything's perfect except he does have this thing where he humps my leg and did you when like i feel like sometimes people in that situation did you ever tell any of your friends

that i told literally every single person okay very on brand because you know those girls that would like hide it and like not want to talk about it and they're like oh whatever i'm just like pretend you told them all i told everybody with a pulse and he's still single he is oh yeah well now you know everyone who's listening if there's a guy that's really attractive and really successful and really single it's because he likes to hump appendages can i ask you i don't know if this is too much but like no like i'm not i don't I don't mean to be like how is your sex life but like do you have a like a specific amount that you guys are like having sex a week or like are you guys like not as crazy now that you're because I guess everyone on my

show is like yeah terrified to get into a relationship and you've been in one for so long yeah does it freak you out that like it's gonna get get boring or like? No, I think that it's so funny to me because I do think that people put like a real emphasis on sex in a marriage and it's the most important thing. I've never really felt that way. Me and Andrew have always had like a very healthy, great sex life. Right. It's been consistent our entire relationship. Like it's not and our connection.

What's funny is that when andrew and i first started dating i was like ready to get down and dirty i was like let's fucking do this thing let's tango and he wanted to wait shut the fuck up i swear to god and i was so i was actually really offended i remember at the time i was like what are you talking about and he was like i just feel like this could be different and I want to like wait. I mean, we only waited like a week and a half, but we went out breakfast and dinner every day for like nine days

and we didn't have sex for like two weeks. So by two weeks, we had had 28 meals together. Right. You're basically like in a relationship. We were like boyfriend, fucking girlfriend, like two dumb losers in 48 hours they're like so are we like dating like it was just so but that is kind of like the best connection

when like you meet the person you're like wait this is like i want that you can just tell like you're like i went on a trip with my family within five days like it was very weird and i kind of thought he was a serial killer because he had never had a girlfriend before oh that's like a red flag isn't that scary totally because he was an asshole he was in college and he was just like you know humping anything with the leg right i know pun intended um so you guys waited to have sex you were like i'm kind of a little like what the fuck is wrong with you i was like what is wrong with me yeah i was like what the fuck right but it made sense like now i think it was a great thing because we like kind of got to know each other and we just i don't know i think that's kind of it was weird though i was like really you're like wait i want

to have sex that's kind of i think okay i think that's smart though because i say if you guys want to have sex on the first date if you don't it's totally your prerogative like do whatever the fuck you want i agree i think everyone has a different like you can go have sex with someone and it's not going to affect you and you could literally marry that person or you have a one night stand and he ever talks to you again. Like there's every like situation is different. A hundred percent. By the way it doesn't matter if you're with someone for a year or 50 years.

Like it ebbs and flows. You're having a bad day. You're on your period. You get in a fight. You like whatever it is. It doesn't really matter if you're married or not in my opinion. Like if anything it's just life. you know what I mean it's not like you get married and all of a sudden you're like revolted with the person and you're like oh my god you're the only person I'm gonna have sex

with for my entire life like I never felt that way yeah I think that's like a huge fear of people they're like oh my god like is it possible to be monogamous like do you not even have a stress in the world that either of you would ever be like cheating no I really don't and I would never tell him that but right right Andrew if you're listening no didn't happen no no no he is I would never say never because I think that's like ridiculous but I really like really don't think so no no that's like kind of amazing because I can tell like like I'm the sketchy one yeah yeah yeah and you're not trying to cheat no if anyone was to do some weird shit it would

100% be me and you've cheated on all of your boyfriends pretty much okay so in when you were younger what was your like sex dating life like well so I was just the worst all my friends would say that like the second that the Santa Ana winds would hit in like Southern California, like the summer solstice or whatever, something just overtook my body. And whoever I was in a relationship with, I would break up. I had a boyfriend of four years, like in high school and the beginning of college. I would break up with him every single summer. I would find somebody new.

I would go into the bathroom. I would text me like, I think we should take a break. and then I would hook up with whoever the fuck I wanted to like it was terrible demon wow so for four years this was going on it wasn't exactly like I wouldn't say cheating but it was definitely like I would see somebody I'd be like oh yeah and I would just send a text message that is actually kind of so beautiful like it's terrible it's so awful and that's so fucked up but at least you're giving him the benefit of the doubt it's not like you're going and he doesn't know at least you just quickly end it no i feel like i'll be right back and then i'll be like hey hey i think we should take a break and then i would go okay so you were like a little wild i was just like

you know what i was definitely an emotional whore where I really loved the idea of getting people to, like, love me. And then just see what I could get away with. So even if I didn't like a person, like, there was one person in particular. I was talking about this with my husband. This one guy that I just knew he, like, really loved me. Right. And I did not love him. And this is awful. And the fact that I'm saying this out loud on your podcast, I will

regret this. Right, right, right. But keep going. But I'm going to say it because I think it's very therapeutic and it shows extreme growth. Yes. Yes. As I'm nearing my third decade of life. Right. And it makes me judge myself, but I liked the emotional turmoil of getting him to just love me and then leave him and see how many times I could get him back and then drop him. You know what I mean? Like it just – it validates – Oh, yeah. It's disgusting it is what you're describing is something that is what I do and like me is that a leo thing like

when you just said it's terrible to be able to get someone to fall in love with you I'm not even focusing on and then hurt them like and then get them back and see like oh my god like how pathetic is he gonna be like one more time two times three times how many times is he gonna take me like i'm you would think that it's coming from a place of deep insecurity i don't think so i don't think so at all i i actually think i'm completely fine and i think it's so fun i think it's a wish it was yes yes i wish it could be like and it's because like i have no so i think what it is it's like it's like a sick i think it's like i and like it's like a power thing that is like it's a dick really gets your dick hard no literally it like gets me off

it literally gets me off seeing a man fall in love and then watching you basically, like, mentally, mentally take him, take his heart and stab him, and stab him. Like, people are like, are you? Chew it up and spit him out and put him back together and then be like, love me. No, and I think it's fucked up.

And you know what? I think this is maybe part of it too i've talked about this in therapy is like i've never been to therapy so could you just send me your notes oh my god it's actually been amazing it's a great time yeah um i think she thinks i'm a little fucking out of my mind but that's fine um there's something about like making a man fall in love with you the power it gives you is it is so intoxicating it's the upside of sexism yeah yes that's what it is it is it is it's it's it's all we have it no it is all we have in this life you hear that girls we are shattering glass ceilings no like this woman's special rome and fucking michelle okay i'm sight of sexism did you guys hear that um i just don't think but i like that you're saying it while

you're married now and it won't have any repercussions my mom after i release these types of episodes is like so alex like you're never gonna have a guy want to date you because like you're literally being like, I'm going to manipulate the fucking shit out of this guy emotionally and he's going to fall in love with me and then I'm going to stab him in the fucking heart. But you don't marry that guy. No, and it's fine. And then every time I'm alone with them, I'm like, babe, it's just a show.

And self-awareness is key. It makes the world go round. So as long as you know what you're doing, it's – No, it's true. I appreciate you – That's what I tell myself. It's literally how I sleep at night i'm like it's fine like as long as i'm being authentic within myself not with him but myself that's all i need

yeah and when it's right you don't do that shit right exactly so if it's not then just you know have fun have whoop i was fucking 1920 right it's what those years are for any of them ever like call you out or like cry to you yes the tears i love the tears the tear aren't the tears it's my go-go juice you're like there it is uh gets me every time no the tears that's what webs the vagina right yeah you're like he's like and they're always sobbing and they're like choking like when men cry they're like oh and then they're like they've got snot because they like don't cry a lot and so they're emotional they're on the ground they look at you and they're like hey i know what you're fucking doing like i'm not putting up with this shit bye and then you're like marry me and then i'm like wait i love you that no that is i will know when i find the man that's a man that's a man when he

doesn't and listen men can cry, but not when I'm doing this to you. Don't fucking let me like, don't let me fuck. Yeah, exactly. Don't let me fully run the show. Like obviously I'm going to run the show, but don't let me fully run it. Boundaries. Boundaries. Hot. So hot. Steamy hot boundaries. Love them. So hot. Love when I get a boundary. I'm like, cool. Too cool too far noted I I really appreciate you coming on Jackie and kind of like I think that there's hope sitting across from you um you are scary and you do things that I'm like yes yes yes ooh check yes ooh yes Alex but yet this bitch has a fucking husband that loves her and she's successful and she is a solo podcaster. I'm like, I could keep, I could do this. And this is, this is hopeful for me. Thank you. I mean, you're making me sound a lot better

than I actually am and a lot more functional than I actually am, but I will take it. Yeah, no, it's, I'm definitely hyping you up and I think it's, it's well-deserved. I think obviously we would be a terrible combination. No, no, literally God, we don't live on the same coast, but it would be monsters, monsters, but also we'd probably like like you just keep talking about yourself and then i'd keep talking about myself and we'd sit there and just drink and then we just keep talking honestly a ball of a time i had a friend in high school that was also a leo and she looked at me and she's like you know what i love about us and she's like we don't talk badly about other people because we're so busy talking about ourselves and i was like you're like whoa you're like true whoa very true actually so true it's like i will remember this for the rest of my

life that is so that hits so home it hurts it hurts whoa wow it does um jackie shimmel plug yourself tell everyone podcast instagram if they can find you i'm pretty sure she's shadow band i am probably shadow band but i'm on instagram at jackie shimmel and my podcast is called the bitch bible the bitch bible see right in the flesh yeah thank you thank you thank you thank your queen thank you so have you guys heard about that group of people? Um, they refer to themselves as the Silent Sufferers. Oh, no, Alex. I've never heard of them.

What do they stand for? Well, you see, they have a problem with this woman on this podcast. When she goes to France, and she starts to talk in an accent, and she takes the moment she sees, and she starts to do that question at the wing, and starts to sing questions on the motherfucking part of her of my larynx is swollen welcome back silent sufferers you guys can all go fuck yourselves i was trying to decide if i was going to do questions of the week this week but i have been getting some positive feedback of people liking it so i'm gonna go ahead and fucking do it i also just remembered it's my fucking show and I like to black out and

talk like that. So I think it's the funniest fucking thing. There are some daddy gang members that will like take videos of their dogs while I'm doing that voice and the dog like twists its head. You know how they like perk their head when like you do a squeaky voice? Yeah, well, I apparently like put dogs into like seizures. So anyways, Daddy King, it's questions of the fucking week. So happy to help. So happy to talk through things with you. So happy to learn more about y'all.

Let's get right into it. Hey, Father Cooper. Love the show and low key don't know what I would do without it. So I was hanging out with some friends and guys who we've only met once or twice. We were all drinking quite a bit, so keep that in mind. I was interested in getting with one guy, and we eventually headed to a room to hook up. It was hot at first, but then he himself starts unbuckling his pants, and I quote, asks me if I want to suck it. In my intoxicated state, I felt pressured too.

I'm not very experienced, but I tried my best at the Gluck Gluck 9000 but he didn't come. He was hard the whole time but he couldn't even finish even after jerking himself off. We tried everything including titties. Another really weird thing was that I was doing all the work and got nothing reciprocated. Wouldn't even kiss my neck for fuck's sake nor did he even try to finger me. There was no communication from his side. And he even said, but I didn't come. Anyways, I had to leave after 20 minutes and I started and I tried to kiss him goodbye. But he turned away and didn't even hug me.

I feel so shitty about myself and I wish I had not done that. Please help the daddy gang out and make me feel better. Love you. Okay. My heart goes out for you because this is the fucking worst feeling in the world. And as fucked up as it is, I want you to listen to me when I say like, these are the type of experiences that as shitty as they are, once they happen, you need to use it as the biggest learning experience. And I kind of believe like this, this happens to a lot of people.

I had this in fucking high school. Like I like didn't know what I was doing. And I was so happy. I was hooking up with had this in fucking high school. Like I like didn't know what I was doing and I was so happy. I was hooking up with a fucking older senior and like, I like didn't know what I was doing and he was kind of a dick. You need to remember that feeling and use that and recognize moving forward. Every situation you move forward in, whenever you're trying to like hook up with a guy and he's just be kind of a dick never fucking put up with that shit and like if especially if you're fucking sucking a guy's dick and it's literally hard but he's fucked up and you guys are all drinking halfway through you take your fucking mouth off and you're like are you gonna come and you make him feel fucking stupid before he can make you

stupid because he wasn't even being nice to you the whole situation it sounds juvenile but there are so many fucking assholes out there that do this shit you have to know your self-worth but you also have to know this fucking happens so often learn from the experience and the next time you feel uncomfortable you get the fuck up and then you walk the fuck out my boyfriend won't eat me out because he says i don't shave well enough i can't get wax because it fucks up my skin, nor do I want to do that every time in order for him to go down on me. What should I do about this? Baby girl, this is like a one liner.

Break the fuck up with him. If I ever, if I ever had a fucking boyfriend that said that he would not go down on me because I didn't shave well enough. I'm sorry. In what world, in what world is that acceptable? You're pissed because I don't shave my pussy perfectly. Okay. What a bitch boy. He won't eat you out. I want a man. That's why literally one of the guys I'm hooking up with right now. I want a man that is like, I want all the nasty shit. Like I have this guy that's like, I want you to fucking put your asshole in my face. I want to lick your pussy. I want to do all the things with you guys that are pussies about like, oh, like

it's your, your pussy hair isn't perfectly shaven. It's like, no. Okay. Then you go jack off at your fucking grandma's house for the rest of your life because that is a fucking definition of a little bitch boy. He should be wanting to eat your pussy literally after you work out and it's sweaty. Like any man listening, when I have a guy that verbally tells me like nasty shit that he's into and how he like loves when I'm like sweaty or when he like wants etc on his face, that is a turn on to me and makes me want to be 10 times more of a freak than if a guy is like I'm scared if the razor bumps I'm not going to be in a relationship where a guy doesn't eat me out like what is that what is life nothing you're

not living hi Alex first of all I want to say that my team and I are obsessed with your show and we all have your sweatshirts oh god I love it I play d1 volleyball and I wanted obsessed with your show and we all have your sweatshirts. God, I love it. I play D1 volleyball and I wanted to hear your thoughts on how to handle this situation. So due to Corona, all of the athletes have been back since June training and getting tested about once a week. We already went through quarantine, but now we are getting ready to start our season. My teammates and I moved places and now we have a random girl as our fourth roommate. She is a NARP or a regular student, whatever you want to call it. But she goes out like every weekend and always has people over.

We told her we can't be around random people because we're trying to be safe so we can keep practicing and we won't get COVID. But she won't listen. I know you dealt with difficult roommates. So can you can you help me find a way to knock some sense into her things dude this is so fucking crazy because when I was in college I never lived with a NARP but I did have um teammates that lived with NARPs and it was always a fucking disaster because even if it's not um like an actual issue then you just get jealous because they're always able to go out all the fucking time and you're like yeah we have 6 a.m workouts like we have to it's like miserable so if i were you especially now with the covid shit that's so fucking rough i feel like if you're on a d1 team tell your fucking coach and i bet they

can pull strings to get her out of your place because there's no fucking way that they want you guys to be exposed to that shit and you can basically coach we're literally about to get covid so find us a new roommate or like peace out for the season i feel like a coach when they hear that they're gonna be like rushing to admissions and like housing and they'll be like get my fucking girls out of there that is the one great thing about d1 sports is like it's fucked up but you can kind of like pull strings like that so i would do that okay hey. Hey, Alex. So I have a problem. I got diagnosed with chlamydia the other day. God bless your soul.

I'm sorry. Don't worry. We pop a pill. That shit's gone. Literally the other day after I fucked a guy raw. Oh, fuck. Okay. Turns out I got chlamydia from my ex and because I'm dumb and I believed him when he said he

was clean, I called the guy that I fucked raw and told him that he should get tested just in case I gave it to him. He seemed chill. clean. I called the guy that I fucked raw and told him that he should get tested just in case I gave it to him. He seemed chill. Emphasis on the seemed part. I don't know if he actually was chill, but I was told by a guy friend of mine that if a girl gave him chlamydia, he'd drop her so fucking fast because she's clearly a dirty slut.

Usually I'm super careful and I get tested regularly, but because of quarantine and stuff, I was just too distracted and busy to go. So clearly I messed up. Do you think that after I get treated and tested and get a negative result that I should text him? I know I fucked up really badly, but I actually like this dude and care about what he thinks about me. So should I reach out and hope he still wants to fuck or should I just let him be? All right. It's not the most healthy advice but just I'm sorry but this is like personally first

and foremost what I would have done is like is it fucked up I don't know don't ever fully be like hi I gave you chlamydia like if I were you I would have been like hey I went to my yearly checkup and I got my results back and like I have chlamydia like have you been tested recently like I don't know who gave it to who but like I haven't really fucked anyone in a minute and then kind of see what he says and if he's like I haven't either be like oh what the fuck like one of us obviously had it then for a while I guess like you never ever unless it's obviously like a way more serious STD like with chlamydia and shit I'm fucking sorry but you never fucking accept the blame right off the bat so now moving forward though I'm not gonna lie I think you being

like hi I gave you chlamydia yeah I mean I think guys are a little I mean I think everyone is fucking like freaked out when they hear that they have an STD by someone so and he clearly doesn't know if that means that you've been fucking like 19 dudes so I kind of think if I were you I would lay off for a minute and then you could slide back in towards like the end of quarantine or something or you could honestly just text him and just apologize and be like I had slept with my ex I fucked up and like I'm really fucking sorry like I'm not like that and I just feel really bad and like just kind of send like a really nice apology text and like own it hello father would you ever consider getting your pussy hair lasered off I've

been considering my leg hair lasered off, but I'm not sure if I should go for the cooch too. Thank you. That is such an interesting question because I will never forget. I was going to the Dominican Republic. It was my sophomore and my junior year of college. I was a little ratchet. My friends and I, we were just really doing it up. You know, the all-inclusive shit just drink until you black out um and so before I went all my friends were just getting like waxed and I had never gotten waxed before because I I feel like I'm pretty great at shaving my vagina um I I know obviously sometimes girls are always writing in like how do you not get razor bumps and stuff

I use um like male shaving cream on my pussy works wonders and don't use like shitty ass fucking razors and so and also like you need to dedicate like a nice amount of time don't go in there like and it's like can you just cut your pussy bitch you need to treat her like a queen and pamper her um so anyway so I go to get my pussy wax for the first time in college. My friends are all there with me and we're like in the fucking room. And I'm like, is this going to hurt? And everyone's like, no, like Cooper, you're fine.

And I'm like, why do I feel like this is about to be a fucking holy fucking shit? I straight up like was about to bawl my eyes out. I don't care. Call me a fucking pussy. Don't care. That pain. That was probably the day that I was eyes out I don't care call me a fucking pussy don't care that pain that was probably the day that I was like I can't take this so how the fuck am I gonna ever have a child um so that was like a very eye-opening experience for me and I've never gotten my

pussy wax since but I totally get if people don't mind it like I know it gets easier throughout time don't care not willing to go however the laser question I've thought of until one of the guys that I am hooking up with right now. I was having sex with him recently and I just let it grown out and I like wasn't prepared and I like didn't shave. And he told me he was like, I feel like you like your pussy like super perfectly clean shaved, which I've had a lot of guys like it. But he was like, I fucking love when you have um like hair on your pussy and I was like oh and like he's the guy that I'm like hooking up with a majority of the time right now so I've just been like letting it kind of grow but I just like shave it into a nice little like the landing strip situation um so I guess my answer is I'm not

getting my pussy lasered because of him now. And I don't want girls to be like, why, why are you doing that for him? It's because I don't give a shit. Like I literally don't care if I'm full bush or not. Like to me, it really doesn't bother me. I think now I think it's fucking hot that like he has a preference and I'm like, I don't. So like dope. I'll like keep, it's easier for me to keep growing it out.

So if you don't have a guy that gives a fuck, yeah, get it las for me right now i'm not getting laser because i'm like oh this man likes my fucking hair okay so i gave head for the first time recently and by the way i couldn't have done it as good as i did without you that makes me so happy but towards the end i felt close to gagging i need to know what guys think of this and And if it's bad, how do you not gag? Please help. Dude, literally, I remember in high school when I was giving like one of my first blowjobs and I was like, holy fucking shit, I'm straight up about to gag on this guy's dick. And in my mind, I didn't fully understand yet like that that was the hottest fucking thing so i was like holy fuck holy fuck if you are first of all gagging sounds on a guy's dick even if you can't fully deep throw his dick

even if you don't even get halfway down his shaft with your mouth but you're making gagging sounds and like the blood vessels in your face genuinely look like you're trying with your all to take it all that to a guy is so fucking hot you gagging on his dick genius amazing there is nothing better so obviously i get it if you don't want to fully throw up on his dick but i do think at times if you can find that like fine line of like almost kind of vomiting on his dick and take it there. Like your eyes should be bloodshot mascara down the face. Like, whoa, like you almost are about to die. But then you're like, I came back to life quickly because I like came up right before I threw up everywhere.

That's that's the level that you want to hit the meter. You want to hit that meter. So I would try really hard to like embrace the gag but obviously just try to feel it out and that just comes through experience like i now know where i'm when i'm gagging and then when my gag is about to be like oh this bitch is i'm about to throw the fuck up so you have to just kind of like know your limit but i wouldn't be afraid to push it and honestly if you throw up a little bit, like you just quickly like swallow it back up. And just keep on fucking pushing, soldier.

Okay, this one's labeled healthy relationships. Oh, hit me where it hurts. This girl goes, hi, Alex. I love the podcast. Even more so now that you're a single father. I think you've opened the dynamic of the show to an unlimited possibilities. Don't get me wrong. I'm totally here for the savage shit, but I also like how you've been vulnerable. I noticed in one of your recent tweets that you mentioned that your therapist said that one of your relationship with the men you're seeing is healthy. That's where my

questions coming up. I've been talking to this guy for the past three months we act like we're dating but haven't defined the relationship i know i'm the only girl he talks to slash sleeps with and it's actually a healthy relationship and i'm in no rush to become his girlfriend shocker my question is i know you've said don't be available to him and play the game but what if i don't want to we enjoy spending time together and doing things for one another so what would be the point of disappearing randomly or being consistent with communication what are your thoughts on this how did you navigate this with the la guy it came off in your vlog stories etc that you saw him quite a bit when you were in california and for the trip that you went on with

him also if you could try to answer this in a healthy way versus joke savage that would be great love you okay i can do that um this is what i think if you are getting reciprocation from the guy or the girl that you're talking to and it's a consistent fashion and you like that person then go for it in my past when i refer to playing the game and fucking with people, it's because I was intentionally choosing fuckboys because I didn't want a relationship and I didn't want someone to be tying me down during college. I was enjoying having my single crazy life and I knew for me personally, I wouldn't be satisfied in any relationship in any aspect because I really wanted to like live it up in college however I have had moments where like I have had men like you're saying in LA that were extremely open and honest and straightforward about how they felt about me and I just didn't feel the need to play games obviously I always lean towards the side of caution just a little bit to be fully open and honest about everything and how you feel and be super expressive just in case you don't fully know what that person is up to and they don't fully owe you anything so I usually just like

to protect myself as much as I'm always joking about like all the savage shit it's more so I just never want to get hurt and i know in order to move forward in relationships you have to be vulnerable and you have to risk getting hurt but that's just something i'm working on like i just don't like making myself fully vulnerable to people but for you if this guy is making a consistent effort if you guys know you're fucking like you're with each other almost every night of the week and you know he's not fucking other girls I don't think that that means you need to start no you don't you shouldn't disappear he'd be like where are you like what happened to you I think occasionally as things progress yeah you can have like once a month do something a little wild to spice it up but it

doesn't have to be the same consistency of when you are talking to someone that you know is more on the fuck boy side of things and is playing games if you feel in your heart that this guy really fucking likes you and it's gonna make you happy to go for it then fucking go for it okay daddy gang that's a gang that's a guy that's a guy that's a guy um how Zottegar. Zottegar. Zottegar. How are you fucking feeling? It's so exciting because every week, every week in Corona, it feels like Groundhog Day. But at least we get to hang out at least once a week and we can talk about all this shit that's going on. Go follow me on Instagram. It's Alexandra Cooper. Go follow Call Her Daddy on Instagram. It's Call Her Daddy and on Twitter, etc. I have many, many, many many many surprises coming your fucking way um write in let me know what you guys want to hear on the show next I'm an open book but I'm also a little limited because

of COVID so you know just like let me know and I'll try to make it fucking happen you know the fucking drill daddy gang I will see you fuckers next Wednesday