Call Her Daddy - Chace Crawford: Gossip Girl, House Parties & Dating Disasters (FBF)
Episode Date: March 28, 2025Join Alex in the studio for a fun and nostalgic interview with Chace Crawford. Chace talks about his childhood, going through an awkward phase (debatable), and what it was really like to work at Aberc...rombie in the early 2000’s. He then discusses all things Gossip Girl. Chace reflects on the audition process, his first time meeting Leighton Meester, and whether he ever hooked up with a co-star. He spills the tea on his time living in NYC with Ed Westwick, what their roommate dynamic was really like, and details the insane house parties they would throw together - he even reveals which iconic stars used to be on the guest list! Finally, Chace opens up about the current state of his love life, logging onto Raya for the first time, what he’s looking for in a partner and what his absolute deal breakers are. Enjoy!
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Chase Crawford, welcome to Call Her Daddy.
Thank you for having me, Alex. Yeah.
I am so excited to meet you. Okay, you have to tell a little bit of the backstory though,
because you were just telling me downstairs that you kind of were a fan and like, I need to hype
myself. I was. Listen, I'm a little bit nervous right now
because I'm so excited, Alex.
No, I was telling you, I'm like,
maybe I save it for the podcast,
but I'm an OG daddy fan.
Let's fucking go.
I'd be like, you know, I'd be like,
walk on my dog, I always listen to podcasts.
I was like, who are these?
You guys are giving insane advice.
And it was amazing because you weren't giving like,
just this cliche rote advice to women.
You're like, fuck it, this is how we're seeing,
this is what the guys were seeing in New York,
like or whatever, right?
And I lived in New York, obviously, so.
But yeah, but you guys are like,
this is how we're seeing it.
This is the real stuff we're gonna give out.
This is how you play it.
This is our advice.
This is what works for us.
And I thought it was the best thing.
I laughed, I thought it was amazing.
I would listen to like full, full, like full podcast. Oh, so you've really heard like. I was entertained by the best thing. I laughed, I thought it was amazing. I would listen to like full, full, like full podcast.
I was like, you've really heard like.
I was entertained by the whole thing.
Yeah, I'm OG, I love your new stuff.
I love all the stuff.
Oh, you were all the way back in like the blow job tips.
Like you were really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.
All this stuff, I couldn't turn it off.
I'm like, this is amazing.
This is great.
You're like, you're giving everyone
like the information that the world needs.
It's the hard-hitting facts.
I appreciate you sharing that.
Also picturing you walking your dog,
being like, that was the funniest shit in the OG days
when it was so graphic that people would be like,
my AirPods got disconnected, I'm at work.
And it's like, you have to suck the living shit out of it.
And she's like, fucking shit.
Literally.
Literally.
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What a great point.
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I'm really interested because every time I meet people, I have no idea what to expect.
Like with you, I was interested to know like, is he going to be extroverted? Is he going
to be introverted? Like, would you say in your life
you're an extroverted person?
I'm weird, I'm weird, I am.
I'm both.
I know that's like a lame answer, but like.
No, it's a normal answer.
I'm very much like, I compartmentalize things.
I can really like go out and like let loose,
and I'm very social, and I can be loud and have fun.
But I like my alone time, you know?
I like my own bed, and like I'm sort of a closet reader and a nerd, and like my dog, I like my alone time, you know, I like my own bed and like I'm sort of a closet reader and a nerd
and like my dog, I like my alone time.
So yeah.
What kind of dog do you have?
He's like our little rescue.
He's like a little, they lied to us at the rescue place.
It was like, I share him with an ex-girlfriend actually.
So yeah.
You're one of those?
I'm one of those, I'm one of those.
Oh my Chase, I'm judging you so hard.
I know, I know.
Oh my God.
It's all about him though, it's all about the dog.
No, that's fucking bullshit
Wait, that's like a full problem when you meet someone new and you have to be like this is like our child
I know it's not even I mean, she's got a fiance. It's not even like I know
I don't think it's a weird thing at all. People think it's the funniest thing
I'm like it actually is the only way to have a dog in fact
No, no the cast member recently she was she won a dog. I'm like you want to get a dog together
I know how this goes.
That is actually mentally insane.
It's insane.
So you have to see her constantly.
We know, you know, not as often as you think.
She does have a key to my house.
And so a lot of times, I know it's getting worse.
Listen, it's not that big of a deal.
A lot of times I'll just like,
I flew out last week to go work in Toronto.
I'm like, hey, Shiner's name Shiner,
after a Texas beer, very stupid. I'm like Shiner's in the house, just go in there and take him. And she just goes and picks him up. I'm like, hey, Shiner, his name's Shiner, after a Texas beer, very stupid.
I'm like, Shiner's in the house,
just go in there and take him,
and she just goes and picks him up, I'm not even there.
But sometimes, yeah, we're still friends and cordial,
it's great.
So imagine you're in there on a date with the dog,
and she comes to pick it up and has the key.
You have to describe that to new women.
Like, listen, it's nothing other than just
for the dog's happiness, we share her.
Right, right.
I guess I'd never let that happen, I guess.
I drop him off sometimes.
She lives close by me and whatnot.
What if a girl said like,
I can't do this unless you guys give up the dog.
Oh, this girl's gone.
I mean, this dog takes precedent.
I think I might love that dog more than my future child.
Chase.
I mean, I'm not even kidding.
I will die for that dog. I'm a dog mom too. That's how that kidding. I will die for that.
I'm a dog. That's how that happens. They get you like that.
They really get it. I get it. How would your friends describe
you to like someone that they wanted to set you up with? Like
how are your friends describing you? I don't know. That's a
very good question. Outgoing funny, hopefully. You know, I can I like to think I can cook a little bit.
But if they were being honest, I don't know.
Maybe, you know, he's a bad texter, maybe.
I'm not that, I'm being honest.
I'm not that great, you know.
Sometimes.
I think that's a good sign though.
I think if you treat a woman really well in person,
and then sometimes you're not a bad texter,
but you're open about it.
Right.
Like, that's okay.
Like Matt, my partner is like, my husband is like not,
he's not a good texter at all.
In the beginning days I was like, does he fucking hate me?
But now I know I like appreciate it
that he's not on his phone 24 seven
being one of those freaks.
Like, are you on your phone though, 24 seven,
you're just not texting back?
I'm not, no, no, I like to leave it.
It's always on vibrate.
I like to, I still like to be always attached to it.
Okay, that's good.
And so, but then I'll overthink.
I have a little anxiety.
I'm like, I don't know what to do.
So sometimes I like, I literally forget
to like form a response.
You know, I gotta get back to that.
So I'll forget about it and it's terrible.
And I'm just, that's kinda how I am.
I'm a little scattered with the texting.
But do you think that's your biggest red flag?
Like you're just a bad texter.
What else?
What's another red flag?
I'd like to think I got green flags.
No, I got, let me think.
You know, my exes, maybe in my 20s,
might say I'm bad at communicating,
so that kind of ties in.
But I've learned, I've learned.
You've gotten better.
You've gotten better.
I'm like late 30s now, I've gotten better.
So I'm more vulnerable.
Yeah.
We love a vulnerable man
that can like tap into his emotions and his feelings.
Totally.
What are you doing on a Saturday night with your friends?
Oh, that's a good question.
Usually, what did I do last weekend?
Like my buddy, like this next Saturday,
he does like 60, he does these big like lunches
at Jelena in Venice.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, fine.
We all bring a bottle of wine in it,
but it's like six hours.
So and he prefaced it with that and I was like,
I don't know if I'm gonna make it six hours.
And it went by like that.
So we do these little like lunches
with random different people.
He's kind of in the food industry as a chef.
So we kind of like have these interesting people.
Are you getting like annoyed when you're out?
Like, are you getting noticed all the time
everywhere you go?
No, no, it depends.
I'm not like, you know, I'm not like the Caprio level
where it's like this thing.
I kind of have a nice pocket where it's, it's fun to get recognized for the Gossip Girl thing still.
Which is like still been this like three different waves of Netflix. I don't know how it keeps coming around, but it's the same age, you know.
Female is always like so excited. So I do get it sometimes in more touristy spots, like Venice or in New York or somewhere kind of,
where there's more people from all over the place.
Yeah, it's good.
But it's fun that you have like a good attitude about it,
because I can imagine,
like I've talked to people before on my show
about like people that have done so much in their career,
but there's this one thing that people are like,
we just can't get past it.
Like for you, it's Gossip Girl.
Really? Yeah.
Oh my God, for other people, it's like the OC.
Like I know you've talked to Rachel Billson. Totally, yeah. It's like. For like other, oh my God, for other people, it's like the OC, like I know you've talked
and like Rachel Billson.
Like it's like, she's done so much in her career,
but there's the one thing that people are like,
can we just talk about this for 19 hours?
And it's like, you can either just be positive about it
or like fucking hate it, but like,
it's what made you super famous.
And it's kind of fun for all of us
to like indulge a little bit.
I mean, when you're younger, you're 20s,
it's like, I'm like, you try everything so precious.
Like I wanna be like Marlon Brando.
I was so annoyed by Gossip Girl, right?
And like even the name, I hate it.
Dude, it's like, it's great.
It's great. It's the greatest thing.
Yeah, it's like, it's this weird cultural thing
of the zeitgeist of that time to like pre Instagram,
pre all these things,
like the first iPhone had just come out.
Like it was such a weird, amazing time in New York.
It's fucking amazing.
When were you in New York? Were you in New York at that time, amazing time in New York. It was fucking amazing.
When were you in New York?
Were you in New York at that time?
I was in New York, right?
I'm a little younger, so I was like,
New York for me was just as crazy,
but I had my fucking iPhone and it wasn't as fun.
I remember college more when I was watching
Gossip Girl in high school.
I was obsessed with it.
Because I grew up on the East Coast,
I knew the nature of New York City.
But I was not, I didn't come from like a wealthy family.
So like the con, I was like with the fucking Humphreys,
I would have been down in like fucking-
I mean, even the Humphreys are in this like loft space.
It's like a $20 million.
Like that's all BS.
Like that's like, you know.
I can't afford shit.
Like what the fuck?
My first apartment in New York City
was quite literally a shoe box.
And I'm like, yeah, it's not looking so glamorous,
but you still go out and you can still go
to the similar places.
That's what I love about New York is like,
you can go to where DiCaprio is or whoever the fuck.
And New York is cool like that where LA is a little bit
more snooty where it's like, you can't get in here.
Where New York it's like, anyone can get in anywhere.
And they'll treat me like, it's kind of nice
because everyone was like way too cool for school in Los Angeles. They don't give a shit about anything. At all, at all. I won't even like look at me, I get in anywhere. And they'll treat me like, it's kind of nice because everyone is like way too cool for school.
Yes, yes.
They don't give a shit about anything.
At all, at all.
I won't even like look at me, I get the thing.
I'm like, okay, listen,
I can get Lakers tickets to save my life.
Everyone wants it, but the Knicks,
they would always give me Knicks tickets
and Rangers, baby, so yeah.
That was it.
That's fucking amazing.
Shout out to them.
We're gonna talk a little bit more obviously
about Gossip Girl at some point,
but I do wanna talk to you about your childhood because
Obviously you're this like you became this heartthrob your life changed. I think around like 22 ish was Gossip Girl
Yeah, 21 22. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like before that like how would you describe your childhood?
It was interesting. I was born in Lubbock small town, Texas. Not much going on out there. I kind of woke up
I was in Oklahoma Lubbock, small town Texas, not much going on out there. I kind of woke up, I was in Oklahoma City,
first memories, so random.
Parents are from there, dad's from there,
my parents met there at a small,
very small religious college there.
So Oklahoma City, very, and listen,
my parents had me when they were like 20 and 21,
so that's a very southern thing.
Yeah, I mean, they were still growing up as we were,
I can't imagine having a 15-year-old right now.
So they were young, my as we were. I can't imagine having like a 15 year old right now. So they were young.
My dad was in med school.
What happened?
We moved to Minnesota for four years for his med school
and then we moved back to Texas
when I was like nine or 10 years old in Dallas.
I'm from Dallas, like North Dallas,
a little bit suburbia,
a little bit out there in the sticks,
but more suburbia, you know, yeah.
Were you raised religious? Yeah, yeah, know, yeah. Were you raised religious?
Yeah, yeah, basically.
Same.
Were you?
Oh my God, it was tough,
because obviously I can't imagine being from the South
and being raised religious.
I was raised Catholic every single Sunday going to church
and I was from Pennsylvania,
so it wasn't probably as intense maybe
as adding on the South,
but it was just confusing
because I always felt more like
pulled to the arts and like pulled to these things
that just like weren't as traditional.
Right?
And so you just kind of feel like a fucking weirdo
and you feel like art naturally
like pushes the boundaries on conversations.
And when you're raised religious,
it's a little bit like, what are you doing here?
Like you're like coloring outside the lines
and if you were raised in Los Angeles,
it's like, go sweetie, you're doing great.
So it's like, it's just a matter of where you were raised.
Like, was it hard for you with,
like when did you know you wanted to get into the arts?
I was like an artistic kid actually.
I was always drawing and stuff.
I never wanted to be an actor.
I had no idea about acting or any of it.
I know it's like that shitty story
that's like no one wants to hear.
I'd like to know.
No, that's good, that's good.
Yeah, yeah, I was very naive about the acting thing.
I just, yeah, when there was like this secular world,
right, that's like, even I was sort of a bit policed
on what music I was listening to
and all these other things,
it kind of makes you feel just claustrophobic in a way.
Yeah. I remember like always really wanting to just travel
or just get out of the bubble and meet new people
and go out and do that.
But I was a pretty good drawer and charcoal
and a little bit of painting when I was middle school.
I started kind of, I'm not grand,
I was good for a sixth grader, okay?
I'm like, what a claustro over here.
Good for like a hundred kids in my grade, okay?
I was like the best artist at like a hundred kids in Dallas.
Right, right, right.
No, no, but but so my parents did kind of like foster that a little bit.
They let me you know, I went into like photography classes
and those are my favorite favorite stuff.
Yeah.
Did you ever have an awkward phase?
Oh, yeah, totally.
Oh, I should.
Yeah, I wish I had a picture of me in like sixth grade with the crombie and the puka
and like, oh, I'm talking full highlight cap,
like my mom highlighting my hair through the noodle cap.
But wasn't that like low key hot at the time?
Yeah, I mean, we all thought so, right?
The puka shell was like,
if a guy was wearing a puka shell,
I'm like, you were the fucking shit.
Like you had confidence.
Wait, why were you awkward?
I just was awkward.
I wasn't good at talking to girls. I had
no idea. Like, you know, you think you think like one plus
one equals two at that time, you like a girl, they're supposed
to like you back. And when the first girl did not like me back
at all. I was like, Oh, shit, like, I was like, Okay, I guess
I didn't even really come into my personality until like middle
of high school. I would say. Yeah, I think that's kind of
normal, though. I feel like boys either are just like so outgoing
and loud and like kind of annoying as shit.
Or there's like the little artsy guys
that like blossom eventually, like you.
I was a little bit more in that vein,
you know what I mean?
What were your friends like?
So I had some good friends.
They were kind of geeky, you know, outdoorsy,
you know, like go-karts and bikes
and like just little like all, you know, outside doing, you know, like go karts and bikes and like just little like all, you know, outside doing,
you know, sports was sports is a big like, you know,
Texas thing.
So like everyone's gotten even worse.
Like every weekend is like sports for kids.
And it's just this whole thing.
And you didn't play football.
I did, but not like, not like Friday night lights football.
It wasn't like the Panthers.
It wasn't like the Riggins.
I love kids.
He's a buddy.
But you know, I actually auditioned for that show
and didn't get the quarterback
and I was devastated at the time.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh my God.
And you must've been like wanting that too
because being from Texas,
that kind of went like a full circle fun moment.
Oh, devastated.
Yeah, I was like, oh my God, that's so bad.
But it didn't work out.
So you didn't get it in real life
and you didn't get an acting. No, yeah, yeah. Scarred forever. Yeah, yeah. It was definitely not, my dad was like, oh my God, that's so bad. But it didn't work out. So you didn't get it in real life, and you didn't get an acting.
No, yeah, yeah.
Scarred forever.
Yeah, yeah.
My dad was like, you're probably not going to go over six foot.
So let's maybe stick to golf and something easy.
Golf.
Tell me about golf.
Because I'm going to be honest.
When I think back to high school and I think about the guys,
I'm not gravitating toward the golfers.
However, I feel like they figured, no, listen,
now in hindsight, if I have a son one day
and I'm like, get your fucking ass into golf.
Those are the guys that get the scholarships
and are smart and have their life figured out
and just look put together where the meatheads,
God bless them, but where are they today?
Yeah.
I know, you can keep playing golf touch your life and I'm not even like I feel like I it
seems like I play in these little charity things that they invite me to and like so I yeah so I'm
like but I'm not that big of a golfer I played growing up because there was because I wasn't
going to be big enough for football so that was sort of the the impetus there. Can you imagine if
you had gotten Friday Night Light? That would interesting. It would have been totally different. Because the next year I got the Gossip Girl thing.
So it would have been totally different.
Oh my God, either like you playing football
or you being like trust fund Mr. Swab in New York City.
Yeah, yeah, very different.
I feel like that fit you well.
Not that you couldn't have done football, okay?
I want you to know, I would have accepted that role too.
But I think it was meant to be.
It was meant to be.
Right, right, right.
Okay, wait, so you got denied by a girl.
Did you ever go to prom?
I did go to prom, yeah.
How did you do a promposal?
Come on.
Oh, I actually ended up going.
One of my best friends in high school
was this girl, Alyssa Weldon, lover.
We called her Wubby.
So we used to go to prom together
just because I think I had a girlfriend from a different,
that's right, I had a girlfriend from a different school.
And there was a thing where the girls didn't want you. It was just like, if you can I had a girlfriend from a different, that's right, I had a girlfriend from a different school. And there was like a thing where the girls didn't want you,
it was just like, if you can't bring a girlfriend
to school, so I wanna bring my friend, Woobie,
and we tore it up.
Me and Woobie tore it up.
Yeah, she was great.
So that was it.
Do you remember the first time you drank?
Yeah, I do actually, I do, I do.
Tell us the story.
It was back of a Honda Prius.
No.
Mike's Hard Lemonade, or no,
it was a grab bag, it was Mike's Hard Lemonade
and Smirnoff, let's say Smirnoff,
or like Zima or something like that.
But it was Mike's Hard Lemonade and Smirnoff,
I think I had one of each.
But it was one of those things where you're like,
you don't know if you're drunk and you don't know
how to act, you act drunker than you are. I think I think I'm feeling I'm feeling great. Like you
like try and like dude it's just water. We like we we we fucked with you it's just water. But
you're not even like fucking tipsy but you're like no guys things are really starting to feel
different and it's nothing is different. We're just driving and it's like moving a little bit.
Okay calm the fuck down. Exactly. Wow, so like you had like an okay experience.
Cause I feel like to say that you had that
for your first drink,
like I was like going into my parents' liquor cabinet
and like grabbing like a disgusting brandy
and like holding my nose and like vomiting back
into the bottle and just trying to get like a couple steps.
You had a nice little Mike's heart.
No, no, I had a bad moment with vanilla.
It was, I think it was vanilla Coke or vanilla Sky.
It was like vanilla, something vanilla flavored.
Ruined it forever.
That'll do it.
That'll do it.
So that's your drink?
That was my bad moment.
It was like Coke and some vanilla,
like vanilla Coke, some mixed with vodka, bad night.
You can never now not drink that and think of that, right?
No, it was great, because then I just kind of would like,
I switched the beer.
I was usually on one dozen texts
and you switched to some beer, so.
Abercrombie and Fitch, what the fuck?
What the fuck? You're like, I was so awkward. You were an Abercrombie and Fitch, what the fuck? What the fuck?
Like I was so awkward.
You were an Abercrombie and Fitch boy.
No, I worked there.
I worked behind the counter.
I was like doing the numbers.
You still had to be hot.
You still had to be hot and cool.
Like you still had to have a thing going.
I think I lied about my age too,
because they like, I thought it was like cool to be picked.
Like, would you work here?
I was like, yeah, maybe, maybe.
Like, yeah, give me an application.
And I was like, lied on the application.
How, okay, to all the Gen Z people that are listening
that may have like no idea
about the 2000s Abercrombie craze,
can you just describe what it was like to work there?
You have no idea.
First of all, okay, you get to the mall, you walk in,
you can smell that store
from any entrance point in the mall,
right? Woods Cologne. I can smell it and I can taste it right now. I'm thinking about it.
It's kind of disgusting. They probably still have it. God. Yep.
And then as I'm getting closer, I can hear the same fucking mix that they've been playing
on repeat for 48 hours. I can like know this song. And now I probably love every song on there.
But like it's the same thing, you get in there,
there's like greeters standing there.
Sometimes shirtless back in the day.
I mean-
You were never one of those.
I was never one of those, they tried to actually.
I had enough at least self-dignity, like respect back
and they were like, I'm a math guy?
Like put me behind the register.
So, and I actually, time went by way faster.
I was not a greeter, but you get there,
you might be introduced by some shirtless guys.
And then, and there's all these photographs.
He's like those Bruce Webber,
like black and white photographs.
Those were kind of the iconic thing that made it so.
At the time, that was very like racy and like sexually.
Oh, it was like,
cause we got like a little bit of penis lines going on,
like the boy's side and like the girl's side
was like these abs that I was like,
I literally don't even have tits right now.
They're like 25 years old.
Completely, completely.
They're not like high school kids.
And the smell, I was thinking about it though,
like Hollister was 10 times worse
because you had to walk in there with a flashlight.
They turned all the lights off and it was like a madhouse,
like, and you're literally like grabbing clothes
and you're just checking out, it was awful.
Yeah, it was terrible.
Yeah, I worked at both.
I worked at Hollister too for a summer.
It was terrible.
It was awful.
It was awful.
Chase, you are like that guy.
The guy that just like worked at Abercrombie and Hollister.
Yeah, I know.
I kind of love it though.
It was cool back then.
It's embarrassing.
It was cool.
Yeah, it was cool. It's not though. Yeah. It was cool back then. It's embarrassing, it was cool, yeah, it was cool.
It's not embarrassing, it's cool.
That's what I tell myself.
It's cool, because back in the day,
I feel like half the time I would walk in that store
and that was maybe my sexual awakening being like,
whoa, these boys are so gorgeous.
Again, like you said, 25-year-old men.
Right.
And I think it was a whole experience that back in the day,
that was the coolest thing going.
Now we don't even have malls anymore.
No, there's no malls.
The Bev Center is great, it's empty.
It's like kinda nice.
You can walk my dog, it's kinda nice in there.
It is a ghost town, so.
Okay, we're talking about Gossip Girl again.
Okay, okay.
The audition process.
I think it's fascinating to think about like,
you obviously don't get Friday night lights,
and then you go for this.
Like what does that even entail?
Like how long was it?
Did you even know what the show really was gonna be?
No, I had no idea.
I mean, I, like a lot of kids, I watched,
I grew up in the OC in high school and into my college.
The best show.
And my college year was the best show, loved it.
But it was weird, I went in there,
it was like a process of like six hoops to jump through.
It was actually kind of a wild process, but I knew that Josh and Stephanie did the OC.
They're phenomenal. And I knew it could have had this potential to be cool. And I'm like,
oh, they're definitely going to change the name. That name's never going to stay.
You know, it's based on these books, whatever. But I went in and then right away,
if I remember correctly, I wore like my most New Yorkie jacket possible, like my preppiest, you know, whatever.
I'm obsessed.
And, but at the same time, I was a little bit like,
again, I'm like younger, I was a little like, I roll,
like this is kind of not beneath me,
but I wanted Friday Night Live.
Yeah.
So I'm like, I kind of went in there with like,
like a very kind of blase, like whatever,
which probably had worked in my favor,
as those things kind of do.
But they wanted to like a test, you know, thing right away, which I thought, great,
there's going to be one more one more audition or whatever.
But then it was like back with producers and then like producers and director.
And then it was like it's different. It's all different now.
Now, now it's all self tapes and you just kind of put yourself out there.
Right. You know, but but back then it was like it was CW.
So CBS and Warner Brothers, who had to go to like the top of like the Warner Brothers building. And I remember one of the final fourth or fifth times I walk into this big, like 40 row conference room, you know, and I think I tested with a few actresses, a few girls for like Blair or whatever. And I remember thinking like, I'm like, that's a really great part.
Like she's got some great chunks of dialogue,
it's like funny.
And, you know, no offense, they didn't really,
I was like, I just don't really see it with these girls.
And I got this big conference room
and there was just this one girl kind of sitting
with her back turned and I walked all the way around
and was like, hi, nice to meet you.
And it was like late and turned around.
And before she even said, I'm like, that's, she's like so perfect. She was like, hi, nice to meet you. And it was like late and turned around. And before she even said, I'm like, that's she's like so perfect.
She was like, hi, nice to meet you.
I like that's the girl.
So we both were like super nervous and we had to like go in and test.
It's silly. It was like a theater seating, dark room, one stool, like lights.
And it was like you go in and that's like the silliest scenes ever.
You're doing like in front of like all these people.
I'm like talking about Nathaniel's Paxil and all this
stupid stuff.
And so anyway, so I did that.
I was like, I don't know if it went well.
And I guess I got the call, so I got it.
That is, I love also how you just knew Layton.
Also she was so fucking perfect for that part.
No one else could have met it.
She had the headband on and she flipped around
and I'm like, I think I'm in love with you.
Literally, you're like, I love you.
And then America was like, I love you too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Did you always know you were going in for Nate?
Yeah, always for Nate, yeah.
I think they switched around some of the roles,
kind of like the play.
I remember going into reading with Blake
and a few other guys, they were trying to fit the pen
to the Dan role, so yeah.
I think it's just so fascinating
because I've heard some people go in for someone
and they get switched.
But like, when I think of Nate,
your character like had a very different upbringing
than like what you were used to.
Like when you first started filming,
could you relate to anything about this person?
No, like nothing.
No, absolutely nothing.
I had no idea.
I didn't really know any Northeastern people.
I had no idea.
Like the whole thing, it was all new to me.
Did you have an accent?
I had a lot of money. I had a like a subtle, I kind no idea, like the whole thing, it was all new to me. Like the level of money.
I had a like a subtle, I kinda lost it in California
when I went to college for like four years,
but like I get drunk, I have a little accent.
But I did think about that though, I'm like,
what is that New York thing, what is that preppy thing?
But it's a-
Right, cause you went to Pepperdine for one year.
I did, yeah, for about a year and a half, yeah, exactly.
Did your family think you were losing your mind
that you dropped out? Kind of, I mean, I did, yeah, for about a year and a half. Yeah, exactly. Did your family think you were losing your mind that you dropped out?
Kind of, I mean, I kind of freaked out.
I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life.
I kind of had a freak out moment and just,
they were supportive.
I graduated high school a bit younger.
I was like 17, so they were like,
"'Take a year off, like do whatever.'"
And of course I found this acting class.
I'm like, I want to be an actor.
So, you know, but they were somehow supportive,
they shockingly, because I didn't think they would be.
You know, my dad being a doctor and whatnot, so.
I was gonna say, because I remember Pepperdine,
when I was picking schools, I remember looking it up,
because I was like so fascinated with California.
And I look at Pepperdine, I'm like,
this looks like the most magical place on earth.
Yeah. And then I was reading,
and my mom was like, sweetie, you can't drink
if you go to the school, why am I bringing that up to you?
I don't know, but I just went. Didn't know that, school. Why am I bringing that up to you? I don't know.
But I just went.
Didn't know that by the way, till I got there.
I didn't know how strict it was.
We got there, I'm like, guess I'm joining a fraternity,
which I didn't necessarily wanna do, but yeah.
That is like notoriously one of the strictest schools.
Like you can't drink.
Oh yeah.
You can't have co-ed.
Past like 11 o'clock p.m.
You can't have any girl in your room vice versa.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Did you do anything that like broke the rules
your freshman year?
Oh, yeah, we did. Yeah, but somehow yeah, we get we could have gotten a lot of trouble actually
Well, I think we like
Skinny dipped and like the president's like poor or something crazy while he was not there like something crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
So you had a good time story. I love it. We had a good time. Yeah
Yeah, they're not gonna invite you back
No, that was a one-time thing, but it like, we kind of like found, like I met some really, actually three of my best friends,
they ended up all being from Texas.
And they were like from Austin
and one was from like Amarillo, Texas.
And somehow we became like instant good friends.
Yeah, yeah.
So.
It's so fascinating to think about you in college
doing one year and then dropping out and going to gossip.
Girl, do you think that like anyone in your hometown
was surprised to see that success
or was everyone like, oh, it's Chase?
Guaranteed they were so all,
everyone was probably super left field surprised.
Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They had no clue you'd be doing that.
No, I never wanted to be an actor
and I also wasn't that guy.
I wasn't like Johnny, like, you know,
heartthrob on the TV show.
I just wasn't, you know what I mean?
I was a late bloomer.
By the time I was 21, I kinda started to come more
into my own, right, and have real confidence.
But-
Confidence.
Did you have random people reach out?
I feel like all those people start kinda crawling.
You know, it does happen, yeah.
I mean, you probably speak that.
I'm like, yeah, it's weird.
Certain things happen, people act weird
around that kinda stuff.
Yeah.
You're like, wait a second,
we did go to high school together and you never talked to me.
Why are you texting me?
Yeah.
How do you actually have my number?
Yeah, there was that a little bit actually.
Isn't that weird?
Yeah, it was weird.
It was weird, yeah.
When did it get like really big?
After season one, it kind of just popped, right?
I remember the fall of 2007,
like right when it started airing,
it became big like right away.
Insane. Yeah, it became big like right away.
Yeah, it was really insane.
Do you have a moment that you remember that you were like, oh my God, my life has like forever changed?
I don't really, I guess there wasn't that one moment. There was me and Ed Westwick who played
Chuck on the show. You know, he was like an 18 year old kid from like outside of London.
He thought he was like Pete Doherty, right?
Love, obsessed.
And we, I'm in Texas, like I was just in college.
I didn't know how expensive New York is.
It was insane.
I'm like, why my dad had to like give us the,
just like security deposit in first months
and last month's rent until we got our first paycheck.
It was like hilarious.
So I'm like, I'm like, Ed, you want to like room together?
Like, this is crazy.
Like this rents, I'm looking at this.
He's like, oh yeah, sure man.
You know, he had no idea.
And we had, in like first summer,
we like moving in July,
like probably just turned 21 or 22.
And we were like at the summer series in Central Park.
I don't know if you remember any of that,
but they had like big concerts out there.
And it was like the Black Keys, Arctic Monkeys.
I might be dating myself there, but it was awesome.
It was awesome. Sun's out, beers,
and the show hadn't even come out.
We'd shot the pilot, we just moved there
and we were having a blast,
just him and I just exploring the city.
And these girls did come up to us
and it was kind of freaked us out a little bit
because we didn't know and he kind of looked at me
and he was like, I think we fucked, mate.
Yeah.
He was like, show hasn't even come out yet, mate.
He was like, this whole thing. And out yet, man. He's like this whole thing.
And that moment is pretty crystallized in my mind
because it was all like the black keys were playing.
It was just like a great-
You're just being like normal dudes,
like sitting chilling and then it's like, hello?
That was the very first time I think anyone ever asked
for any type of picture.
So that was, I do remember that as being like a defining,
like, oh, interesting.
That's a weird feeling.
As it like really started to pop off,
like how did you initially handle that like fame
and attention?
Not well, actually not well.
It kind of made me paranoid to be honest,
like slightly, I'm not gonna say it was like
this terrible thing.
It was, it was fun, it was fun.
But like you said, people come out of the woodwork,
like think people start acting weird around fame
and you start realizing all these things
that you can only realize from that scene.
But I mean, I don't wanna act like it was this thing.
We had a blast.
For me, it was all about having fun.
Like I had so much fun, but it was,
you just are always kinda like,
you kinda aren't present all the time.
You kinda just kind of like,
don't worry about people or phones like a little bit,
like not, you know.
I think that's okay to say,
like, and I get what you're saying.
Like that doesn't mean you're not so grateful
for everything that came,
but it's like a very odd experience as a human being
to be like, oh, all those people are staring at me right now
and watching me and they know who I am.
And I have no idea who these people are.
They think they know you, right?
Yes, and you're like, I'm not Nate Archibald
as much as you want me to be, I am not.
My name is Chase, I'm from Texas.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And New York's interesting because it's like,
you get all these influx of people and tourists
and you're not only, you're that character in that city.
So it's like Mickey Mouse in Disneyland.
They all wanna see, like take a photo with like Mickey's
and you feel like they just come up and hug you and it's like you're in this costume. It's just kind of funny.
Wait that's so weird. Can we talk about that for a minute? Because I didn't even think about that.
Most shows that are like even movies if they're like set in New York, spoiler, they're not
fucking shot in New York. Most of them are shot in Canada. Toronto. Toronto. Yes. And you guys
actually were living, breathing, filming, shooting in New York City.
The show was set in New York City.
So like you're walking then to get breakfast and you're not working,
but you're like walking wherever you're walking and someone sees you.
Like were people calling you Nate on the street?
All the time. That was it.
That was always it was always the character's name.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was crazy and also fun.
But like it was it blurs the lines a lot, you know,
and it was just weird. It was like a really weird,
like if we were shooting exactly in Toronto, it's a different thing,
but people are visiting New York and it was its own character in the show,
you know, and people are like, you know, fans of the show.
And when they see you actually in that environment,
it's like this whole like their mind is blown, you know,
so it was a doubly interesting thing.
And it's also weird to be in New York City it's like this whole, their mind is blown, you know, so it was a doubly interesting thing for those people.
And it's also weird to be in New York City as you,
like, I think it's interesting,
because I just asked you at the beginning of this,
like, oh, could you relate to anything?
You're from Texas, this character, and you're like, no.
And then all of a sudden, you went from not being able
to relate to anything about this character to like,
you almost were becoming a part of this character was getting.
It was pretty meta, yeah, it was weird like that, yeah.
You're like, I live in New York City,
I am getting paparazzi, people wanna know who I'm dating.
And so I started off being like,
I can't relate to this fucking kid at all.
And now it's like.
Yeah, yeah, and I think it was like Perez Hilton
or whatever the gossip girly thing was at that time,
I always thought it was funny stuff,
but it was the same thing happening. You know what I mean?
And I thought I wouldn't even like New York.
I visited in like high school.
And of course we went to all the touristy awful spots.
And I was there for a month.
I'm like, Oh God, I love this place.
I love this place.
But that's the thing about New York.
Don't you feel like when you visit New York,
it's so overwhelming.
You get sent to the touristy spots where you're like
time square.
And it's like all the places
that if you live there you would never go.
Then when you live there you find the pockets
and you're like, this is the best place ever.
Yeah, we kinda had the keys to the city
and it's like your 20s in New York as you know,
it's just there's nothing better.
So it was like, it was so great.
So you're friends with Ed, you guys live together.
I'm obsessed that you guys were roommates.
I didn't know that until I was doing research for this where I'm like, I didn't know you guys fucking live together. Like I'm obsessed that you guys were roommates. I didn't know that until I was like doing research for this
where I'm like, I didn't know you guys fucking live together.
That's epic.
What was Ed's best and worst quality as a roommate?
Oh God. What was Ed's best and worst quality as a roommate?
Oh, God.
You know, a lot of bad ones.
Let me tell you that much.
We lived in this little apartment.
I think it was like a, they call it like a junior one or there was like the real bedroom, right?
And then there was like an office you could put in a closed wall
And I was like, we'll just switch like and I'll pay a little bit more
Of course, we never switch and I got we did cuz Ed's room was like, you know
It's like a lunch pail with like overflowing cigarettes and like I mean you thought like the Joker lived there. It was insane
I'm not even kidding. I should be calling him out like this, but I love it. I love it. But he's 19, I'm 21, and he was just messy.
I'm a little OCD, I mean, I'm not OCD,
but I'm a little bit on that side
of I need things put in the right place and stuff.
Oh, so him, he's literally an ashtray walking around,
and you're like, clean up, clean up, clean up.
Just shoving the stuff in his room, shoving the door,
and then it was like, and he's, you know, at the time,
like ripping cigs, I was like, stop that, you know?
So that was probably, I didn't like the cigs,
but we had an absolute blast in that place.
We had like a roof deck.
We have to go down the elevator and do the thing,
but no one was ever up there on like 26th and 10th or 11th.
And-
26th and 10th, what is that like?
It was just like- It's not Midtown. It was Chelsea, I guess, technically. Chelsea, yeah, yeah, what is that like? It was just like a little.
It's not Midtown.
It's Chelsea I guess technically.
Chelsea, yeah yeah yeah.
Yeah yeah yeah.
But it was kind of close to the water,
it had like this amazing view on this roof deck
and we just called it roof deck
and he would like invite a bunch of people,
we'd bring a Bose speaker and some like,
you know, big balavak or whatever
and just like have like a party up there all the time.
Okay, first of all, to think about the two of you
throwing a party. Yeah party on your roof deck,
what was the difference between Chase and Ed's parties versus Nate and Chuck's parties?
Not much except the money involved.
We didn't put much money behind ours.
We weren't making quite that, you know, I know I ended up being like the president of the world
at the end of the show, but it was ridiculous.
And he was owning hotel chains.
But his was very much skewed more like,
like British underground rock scene, you know?
And I like, like the beers going and,
but they did turn out to be pretty like fun,
kind of well-known parties.
Like people would like show up from all over the place
and like all over the city, I mean. Is it true that you lived in the same building as the chain smokers oh it's
a great story yeah no next door actually jessica zorro i love the dash she's getting married in
august and i can't wait to see her she played venessa on the show and we would all all hang out
and then she'd be like guys and and she she's in 555 we we were like 535. So she was literally, we were next door.
And she'd always be like, my roommate,
this guy down the hall, like Alex like plays like.
What is this accent you're doing?
I'm trying to do a Wisconsin accent, it's terrible.
It's terrible, it's really bad.
Wait, is she the one you have the dog with?
She's from Wisconsin, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Oh my God, I was like, this is too full circle.
No, no, we've all been like great friends.
This is your Wisconsin, do that again. No, she's like from Wisconsin, it's terrible, I is too full circle. No, no, we've all been like great friends. This is your Wisconsin, do that again.
No, she's like from Wisconsin.
It's terrible, I can't do it.
Wisconsin. Do it, do it.
She's like, guys, my friend Alex is playing,
he's like a DJ and then it's terrible.
I'm not gonna do it anymore.
She's literally gonna call you and be like,
why did you sit, why did you act like I speak like that
on that show?
I love her too bad.
She's the best.
But she'd be like, yo, and it was like three in the morning.
I mean, you know, New York goes very late.
So we'd be out, she'd be like, come back over.
Like, we're gonna go to Alex's house, or apartment.
His own house, like a little tiny apartment.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it was Alex from Chainsmokers,
and he just liked playing.
He's the best, I still see him out and about.
And we would just sit there and rip
and like just chop it up talking
and he's like DJing, playing music and yeah.
What a small world, that's crazy to think
that like you guys as like young guys
because they weren't even formed yet, were they?
No, they weren't, they weren't.
Because he hadn't met Drew yet.
Exactly, he hadn't met Drew yet, that's right.
So I think there was someone else involved
but he hadn't met Drew and our mutual friend with with Jessica was this guy,
Will Monod. He's still my best friend.
I met him through her, but he worked in nightclubs kind of or hospitality.
Right.
So Alex was like, hey, can you get me into these places?
And he did. Well, I hooked him up and got him into these like, damn, clubs of DJ and stuff like that.
So yeah, they're the best.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're so fun.
I had them on and I was like, that was right.
You did have them on.
Yes. I won't ask if you and Ed have had a threesome together,
but I did ask them that.
What'd they say?
What was their answer?
Absolutely.
Of course they did.
They literally go, which one?
And we were like, I was like, what?
And they're like, which time?
And I was like, I don't know.
I don't know.
Tell me about them all.
And Alex at the time was like, stop, Drew.
And Drew was like, okay.
So the first time I'm like, oh my God.
Okay, this is quite fun.
Who would you guys invite to these parties?
Because at the time were you like
hanging out with industry people?
Were you meeting like chicks at like NYU?
Sometimes, yeah.
Like, so I don't know exactly who would we bring up there.
We'd bring good friends,
but then sometimes they'd get really out of hand.
It'd be like, you know, like it'd be insane.
I remember one time I,
one, this is very like early 2000s story.
But like we would have, you know,
it got a lot of hand, but the doorman loved us
and they would like kind of let us do anything.
They would just say like, do this or that, don't do that.
And so he called, I think the doorman called me,
he's like, yo, there's, you gotta come down.
There's some commotion going on down here.
And I'm like, what's going on?
And I go down the elevator and you could see,
you could see like all the way down
and there was just floor to ceiling windows
at the front of the building.
Right.
And I look and it was like Lindsay Lohan and Sam Ronson.
They were dating at the time, it's very 2000.
We're like walking down and there was just a wall
of photographers in the window. I was like, whoa. I was like very 2000. We're like walking down and there was just a wall of photographers in the window.
I was like, whoa.
I was like, no.
We made it.
Did they ever come up?
Of course they came up and it was great.
I think we had met before kind of, and they're amazing.
Like Sam's great.
I'm obsessed.
And I haven't seen them in ages, but like they came up
and it was like a very early 2000s.
These are the details we needed, Chase.
Yeah, there's stories I haven't ever told.
And then we like, you know, raged up there.
It was great.
Did Paris ever come to a party?
She did not, but I saw Paris recently actually.
And I did at this like fancy, you know, some Oscar thing.
And she said, hey, I went up to her and said, hey,
and I'm like, you remember the first time
you ever met, we ever met, right? And she was like, I think she said, hey, and I'm like, you remember the first time we ever met, right?
And she was like, I think she said, I think so.
And I was like, I was in college.
I hadn't done anything yet acting wise,
but I was living, I just moved to LA.
My sister was in town with a buddy,
and we were at like Teddy's, that nightclub back in the day,
which was like the best.
And I was like, you were so nice to us,
you hung out with us and invited us to your birthday party,
and we all went, and it was amazing. And she was like, no way, and I was like, we and like you were so nice to us. You hung out and invite us to your birthday party. And we all went and it was amazing.
And she was like, no way.
I'm like, yes.
She's literally like, I don't remember this at all.
She doesn't remember any of it.
She I think she acted like this.
She's amazing.
And so I always we always say what's up when I see her.
But that was like my other, you know, early 2000 story.
I'm obsessed because you Paris is like the nicest fucking human.
When you meet her, you're like, oh oh my God, you're even better in person.
Like she's lovely.
But I love how like for Paris,
like that probably meant like nothing at the time to her.
She's like got Leo at her parties and she's got everyone
and she's like, oh you come.
And meanwhile, you're like, my life is made.
Yeah, my sister was in like college.
I was like barely out of college.
I'm like, you know.
Are you fucking kidding me?
She invites us to her birthday, but she's being so nice.
I'm like, yeah, we'll go.
It was great.
At her house, it was a blast.
It was really, really cool.
That is fucking epic.
2005 or six probably, who knows.
Did any of your rooftop parties ever get shut down?
They never did actually.
They never did.
There was no one really,
like the noise didn't travel
because it was so.
That's you having it in with like the doorman.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But no one ever used it either.
Like it was really wild.
I don't know how we got away with it.
To have a rooftop and to have a one junior suite thing
that's like a one bedroom, that's pretty insane.
That's a great little gig.
It's a great deal for me.
I got the main room.
Sorry Ed.
Yeah.
Okay, what would he say your worst quality as a roommate is?
Oh, oh, I don't know what he would say.
What would he say my worst quality would be?
Probably falling asleep so easily
when he was trying to tell a story.
We'd be watching just CDs of entourage,
just playing and he was like,
look at that and be like passed out.
But I don't know what my worst quality was.
I was a great, I'm a great roommate.
I'll never have another roommate.
So help me God.
I need to have Ed on now.
And he watched him be like, come with a list.
He's like, number one.
No, it seems like if you're the one that's like cleaner,
like you're maybe he'd be like, he was annoying as shit.
He was constantly cleaning my shit,
like leave my shit alone.
Yeah. When I, when I had to like move out,
I think he was like heartbroken.
I think he was a little bit mad at me actually.
He had built and made.
After like two years, I'm like, all right buddy,
like I need my own, we're six, seven, the show's gone.
We gotta like just, I love him.
But we have our own place.
And he stayed in that place and like knocked the wall down
and like made it his own.
He did?
Yeah, with like an ax.
He like knocked his little wall down.
It was very dramatic, yeah.
Wait, were you like, are you insane that you're staying?
A little bit, yeah. Yeah. Wait, were you like, are you insane that you're staying? Uh, a little bit. Yeah.
Bro, we got the paycheck. Like, we got the thing. Yeah. It was like two,
two years. We had two good years, right?
Look, let's go. Um, okay.
Have you ever hooking up with a costar?
It's just such a night. You just did it. So, you know,
And then you go for the water. So, acting like I'm gonna forget what I just asked.
Hopefully I'll go on to the next question.
Yeah, yeah, listen, I would say,
I would say those things are inevitable.
You know, when you're in your 20s, like,
or whatever, could be for anything, like workplace.
But you know, the thing is, the thing is you're on these things,
it's not like, people would probably think
it's like these sexy scenes or whatever,
that's like the worst part of it,
it's like 60 people watching.
It's like the down time, you're doing the show,
you're on set for like 12, 14 hours a day,
and usually there's some pretty interesting people
from all walks of life, and the danger is, the danger is if you connect right away with a sense of humor, at least for me, if you have a rapport and can banter and give each other shit.
For me, I'm like, oh, I gotta watch out for myself. So I'm like, I'm gonna start liking them. Yeah. And I bet it's like, yeah, that's a good point. You're spending so much time with these people that obviously the minute
if you're like emotionally connecting with someone, that can be your person.
Like while you're like sitting in between scenes, like you start to just get closer
and then naturally, OK, so you're going to leave it to all of us to guess who it was.
I can't. I mean, listen, I've done like other shows and stuff.
But yeah, you know, it's oh, yeah.
But like I love how you had to take a pause,
take a sip of water and you got really centered
with yourself and then you like made eye contact with me
and you gave me the most perfect PR answer like,
sometimes when things get heated
and the emotions are there, it's inevitable.
But you know, we've all moved on.
No, it's fine, it's fine.
Did you ever know if co-stars at the time
were like hooking up and then you like
kept their secret for them?
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely.
And by the way, there's a lot of like actors
and people coming on to the show.
So they're like over the years.
And then I had, I was fortunate enough
to have like friends in the city.
There were actors, but they were outside the show
and I had a really good friend group.
And then everyone else has their little friend group.
And so you meet people in that wider circle.
It's not just that tiny little circle.
Everyone's putting a map together.
So there's a lot of people involved.
But again, it was like our college experience.
Exactly.
One year at Pepperdine,
three years at Gossip Girl University.
Can I ask though, if you weren't dating,
let's say someone in your cast,
what was your dating life like during Gossip Girl?
Cause now you're famous, people know you,
you're in a city.
Yeah.
What was it like?
It was, I mean, in the sense of like dating life,
it was kind of non-existent.
I didn't really like, I was never doing the,
well, I never liked doing the interview,
like sit down, go on dates.
It was like, I was meeting a lot of people out all the time.
And it was very, it was very much like
meet people through your friends.
And for me, I guess it was, I don't know,
I guess it was experience-based.
Like you kind of do something or you go off
and meet people through a crazy experience.
I would kind of connect with them
and then we would date.
And you're so young, like being 22, 23 in New York City,
like at that point, I'm assuming you were not looking
for a relationship, like you're having fun,
you're meeting people, you're hooking up,
you're going to work, like you're starting
to make your first real paycheck, like fun. Yeah, yeah you're meeting people, you're hooking up, you're going to work, like you're starting to make your first real paycheck.
Like fun.
Yeah, yeah, it was a lot of fun.
Yeah, we had a lot of fun.
And in high school, I kinda had like one girlfriend
and it was very like kind of that thing.
And so I was kind of, you know, wanted to,
wanted to just have fun.
Okay, how did you feel when we found out
that Dan was fucking Gossip Girl?
I felt happy that it wasn't me.
I was just really happy that it wasn't Nate
because then they told me they were probably,
they were thinking about, I'm like, why would it even be me?
I'm like.
Yeah, your character was like too, like, laissez-faire.
Like, you wouldn't have time to like get on your computer
and type away.
No, yeah, he's in politics now.
He's a senator now, right?
Yeah, he's like 26 year old senator, so.
Yeah, I kind of always thought of Nate
as just kind of like go with the flow.
Like, although I hate when you hooked up
with that older woman.
I didn't like that era. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't love that.
And but I liked you and Serena were together.
Yeah, yeah. The white party.
Yes. To make everyone jealous.
Yeah, yeah. You're a fan.
OK, you know, you don't even want to know how much of a fan I am.
When it ends, I think I've talked a lot about with people when they're actors
of like, understandably, there's this fan base that is like,
don't you fucking dare say you weren't sad to see it end.
But most people are like,
I gotta move on with my fucking life, it's time to go.
Like, how did you feel when it all was ending?
Were you like, let's fucking go?
I, uh. Or tears.
I had, I went through like a major depression,
I feel like looking back, not really, but I,
I wasn't like prepared for it to end, I, looking back, not really, but I wasn't prepared
for it to end, I guess.
I thought I was, but it was more like New York,
it's your family, it's like you wake up
and even the drivers like you, you know what I mean?
It's like the hair and makeup girls, they're awesome
and that's your whole day, that's like your whole identity.
It's like a young, I was ready for it to be done,
but me and Ed would talk about it all the time,
and so this is the greatest job we'll ever have,
because it was so easy, it was an easy thing, it was fun,
and we would laugh about that.
But more I was just mad, I had to like,
I was like, I guess I gotta go back to LA, and like.
You know?
You're like, I really liked it in New York here.
I liked it in New York,
I should have stayed for a little bit actually.
Why didn't you?
I don't know, I, in hindsight with real estate, I should have stayed for a little bit. Why didn't you? I don't know.
In hindsight with real estate,
I should have just bought in a place and kept it.
What was I thinking?
You should have gone back and gotten the place
that Ed had been renting out
and bought a whole floor and renovated the whole thing.
Defumigated the whole thing, yeah.
But you went back to LA.
I went back to LA, yes, yes.
So talk to me about your state of depression. I can imagine it's
like kind of an identity crisis, right? It was. Yeah, it was an
identity crisis. It was just a weird it was a weird thing. It
was it didn't last very long. But it was like a few months of
like, it was just a daunting thing of like, this auditions
now and like going back and how do I and you're putting a box a
little bit, you know what I mean? You're kind of the guy
that a CW show who looks a certain way. It's definitely
like, okay, I gotta I gotta find something to kind of break out of that.
So there was that, yeah.
And I feel like also, I mean, wait,
how long was Gossip Girl?
How many years?
Six years, you're at six years.
That's like a long ass time to be in something like,
at what, like towards the end of the last year,
you guys knew it was ending, right?
Yeah, yeah, we knew, yeah.
But you still have to start,
it doesn't probably feel real until it's over.
And it's almost like a college experience
plus more to be with people.
And then like, do you keep in touch with anyone?
Kind of, you know how it goes.
I mean, yeah, like I, yeah, we're on texts sometimes
and like you make loose plans
and then Penn texted me on the blue the other day actually
cause he was shooting, I think his final season of You
in our old our old sound stages so he was like texting me we're kind of like
catching up and that's sweet so I'll see Penn every now and again and Leighton in
town and you know Blake's like I think in Westchester will text sometimes
actually and I saw Ed in Europe recently kind of that's awesome so that's awesome
so yeah yeah but it was more, it wasn't like the material.
I was really ready to move on to different material
in a different role, but like New York,
I guess I wasn't really ready to leave New York.
Do you think you'd ever go back?
I'm kind of too old.
I mean, I think the way to do it is to have one and both.
I know.
Fuck.
You place there at all?
I have thought about it, but it's weird because like,
you're right, you hit a certain point where like,
New York is so beautiful when you're in your 20s.
And it's even when I look back,
like I had the like this shitty ass apartment
where there were like fucking rats and I had one of,
I had the ed room where like my two roommates
got to have like the normal rooms.
And then we like, there was like a built wall for me.
And I'm like, just putting a mattress in,
I could barely fit,
and it was some of the best years of my life.
But now when I think about going back to New York,
I like a backyard, and being relaxed,
and not having to walk outside and get hit in the head,
and push to the ground, and screaming people.
I like to go for a trip, and then get the fuck out.
You know? And the winters are kinda brutal, right? I like my car, I like to go for a trip and then get the fuck out. Totally, yes.
And the winters are kind of brutal, right?
I like my car, I like to go to the grocery store with my dog
and like cook and have space.
Yes, the dog.
Spoiled with the sun now too.
The ex-girlfriend with the dog, still not over that.
Let's talk about your love life.
Yeah.
Are you in a relationship? Let's talk about your love life.
Yeah.
Are you in a relationship?
No, it's a dumpster fire.
It's all dumpster fire. What, it's all dumpster fire.
What's going on? What is your type?
2024. It's just things. Times are tough out there.
It is fucking tough.
It is tough. Okay. What's going on?
You're very single. Are you going on any dates?
What are we doing? I joined Raya like a week ago.
How's it going? Terribly.
It's really scary. No, it's scary.
I actually like it.
I actually enjoy it. Oh, really? No, no, it's scary. I actually like it. I actually enjoy it.
Oh really?
No, no, I actually enjoy it because like people,
everyone told me not to do it.
So I had like, I think I had a few drinks on one night
and I'm like, I'm doing it.
And I just did it.
I'm like, this is great.
I haven't been on one day.
No, don't get me wrong.
I'm like, haven't engaged at all.
I'm a creeper face, like figuring this thing out.
What is this thing? It's Intimimidate. Have you done it? Any of the after-mol?
Oh my God, yes. I was on Raya. But the problem for a lot of, I feel like the women, it's like,
the guys are very... I don't know. A lot of them are DJs.
Okay. I'm not looking for... I wasn't looking for a spin the beats guy.
A lot of them like lived in Australia
or it would be like UK.
And I'm like, can I set my settings closer?
Like I don't wanna go on my first date
across the fucking world.
So it was a little bit of like a proximity thing,
a little bit of like a intimidation thing too
because like the other dating apps is like,
oh, this is like a nice normal person.
This is like, who are you? And you and what do you do for a living?
And everyone's net worth it and you're like,
I'm just, it's overwhelming.
So I could see why you have a hard time
getting off the app for that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's definitely weird
and I definitely have no expectation.
I'm not like, I don't even know really what I want.
I'm just trying to, it's just like another avenue
to maybe meet somebody, right?
But yeah, the only connection I've had is like,
oh cool, oh Indonesia, why, yeah, okay great.
When am I, we're gonna go to Bali, never, okay.
I remember there was this one guy that I remember
I like randomly matched with and I think he was on like,
he was on, he was on what was it called,
oh Vampire Diaries and I remember being like,
I'm a big fan of Vampire Diaries and so I'm like, oh, and it's like,
he's shooting in Toronto.
And I was like, I live in New York City.
And like, but you're still like,
am I getting on a plane to see this man?
Yes, no.
Yes, no.
You're like, yeah, no.
Maybe, but yeah, barrier to entry.
I'm like, you ever in New York?
He's like, you ever in Toronto?
I'm like, no, unmatched, bye.
But I'll watch next season.
Like, it sucks, it sucks.
You're gonna figure it out.
I know you're gonna figure it out.
Do you consider yourself a romantic?
I do a little bit, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, what would you consider romantic?
I think someone that like, when you're in a relationship,
you're like very, like you like to set it up
for this like very romantic setting of like,
you're not just like walking through the process.
It's like candles and roses and you wanna like
make time together and you're very like,
I don't know, sweet and cute and.
Yeah, I think I would.
Just say yes.
So anyone watching is like.
I like to cook, so I do like to cook for girls.
I like to, and I'm a homebody, so I like to, when I'm in and I do,
I really do like to focus and like do the thing
and like be very thoughtful.
I feel like I'm a thoughtful person.
So yeah.
How are your first dates?
Are you good at first dates, bad at first dates?
I think I'm okay.
I mean, I mean, everyone, they're awful though, right?
But it's like, I have generally met people
through friends of friends or through kind of indirect ways.
So the first dates are always like interview process,
campaigning, you know what I mean?
So, but when you know you know, kind of like right away,
I can still get through a first date that's like,
well, you don't, you know, it's like, okay,
we're gonna be friends maybe, but.
That's a good point.
I feel like first dates, you know that you like the person
if it feels less like an interview and you're like, oh, we're making like headway.
Like no first date is gonna be like,
this is like the fucking best thing ever.
Like I would hope there's room to grow and get better.
But some first dates you're like 10 minutes in
and I'm like, I gotta fucking go.
Yeah, and then it becomes,
I've definitely been awkward on first dates.
Do you just say the whole time?
Yeah, you know, you can't, what are you gonna do?
Ghost out the back?
I was like, Oh, I
left my keys and then kind of know about it. And then someone
would like write online about you being like, he's the
biggest fucking douche. Like, yeah, people do that, though.
I've had friend buddies that like girls just leave. Yeah,
because part of it is like, you could be respectful and be like,
you're I literally, I know this is not right. Let's just like
not waste each other's time. But some people would be like, you
fucking piece of shit.
Fuck you, and then you're like,
oh, I don't wanna be a dick.
Have you been in love before?
Absolutely, yeah.
Oh, how many times?
That's a good question.
Probably at least two, at least two.
Cause have you had those where you're like,
was that love or it was love in the moment,
but now that I've grown up,
maybe you redefine it a little bit.
Right, one was pretty instantaneous
and then another one was.
Over time. Over time.
So I've kind of experienced both
and I don't really subscribe to the idea
that there's like one soulmate for you.
I think there's a handful maybe.
However you wanna,
but it's definitely once in a blue moon
that you meet very rarely,
you're gonna meet someone that you really connect with
and what you do with that is a timing thing
and then maybe it can work out or it doesn't.
But we all have those things that might not have closure,
you know what I mean?
And that's okay.
So you don't have to have like closure,
but there's those open ended things you're thinking like,
maybe if I'd been more evolved or like I'd been
like five years older in a different place in my life.
There's a few times where I definitely not regret, but I'm like, oh, I wish I've been more evolved, I've been five years older in a different place in my life. There's a few times where I definitely,
not regret, but I'm like,
oh, I wish I'd been in a different place in my life.
That is interesting, where you like,
oh, that's such a good point.
Where you look back at it and you recognize who you were
compared to who you are in the reflection stage.
Where you're like, oh my God,
imagine how different I would have been,
even if I was me in that relationship now.
You probably would have been fuckin' prospering
and happy and all that.
Amazing, yeah, I could have had it all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like Peaky Blinders, no.
But yeah, I've been, and I'm like,
God, I was such a head case back then.
Why couldn't I have just not been an asshole?
You know, when I was doing my own stuff.
I was just, you know, whatever you wanna call it, mental health stuff, it was just like I being an asshole. You know, when I was doing my own stuff. Like I was just, you know,
whatever you wanna call it, mental health stuff,
it was just like I was in a bad place
and not dealing with it.
You know what I mean?
I was like just avoiding everything.
Oh, and that's a really interesting topic
because that means you're growing obviously.
But I think that when you have your own shit going on,
there's no fucking way that you can be like 100% present
for a partner.
That's hard to do even when you're in
a fucking healthy relationship.
Of course, exactly.
Like when I moved back from New York
and I was in that kind of funk,
I met a girl who was like incredible
and went on to be very successful.
Is that the one with the dog?
No.
I'm trying to figure out who the fuck
is the one with the dog.
It's a girl I worked with on a,
it was a bad TV show but it was like in 2015 maybe
or something like that.
So we're still good friends.
She's great, she's a very great person.
Shout out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But we both traveled, so we both have to do with the dog.
I'm defending myself.
No, it's okay, it's okay.
I'm just fascinated.
Yeah.
Like, ooh, how would that work?
It works, it can work, I'm telling you.
Oh man.
But so you kind of fell for a girl after that,
like weird moment, and then it just didn't work
because you weren't in a good head space.
I wasn't in a good space and I just kind of let it slide.
I let it kind of float away and she was like,
we'd be in town and reaching out and we kind of had it,
you know, hooked up, I had a thing in New York
when we were both there and then, and then, yeah,
I just, I think about some of those things.
Like if I had just been in a different,
you can't help that though.
You get what you get and it's a timey thing
and it's just life.
But I do think about those kind of missed moments
from time to time.
But I think it also allows you going into this next chapter
of whoever you're gonna find.
That allows you then to reflect and be like,
I know I'm not gonna do that.
I'm gonna be more present.
Whatever you know you fucked up on,
then you take that and like move on.
No, totally, yes.
How long has been your like longest relationship?
About three, four years probably, yeah.
What are the top like three qualities right now
that you'd be saying you're like looking in for a partner?
We can put this on your riot profile too.
Like just clip this and put this in your riot profile.
It's very sparse, my riot profile.
I think every photo's cut off.
I'm like, eyeball.
I'm not screwing with it.
I don't even care.
I'm like, whatever, you know what I mean?
Right, just like picture of dog, dog, dog, half face.
It's out there in the world.
It is, no, it is.
It's half my dog's face and half my face.
And one shot, yeah, it's great.
Right, because you're hoping they won't fully notice you
and then they just click. so like the dog is nice
or something and it's not like, I get it, I get it.
It's not a signed headshot or anything.
But you know, but no, things I look for,
I guess for me I do, I am like a closet reader
and like kind of a nerd, I do like to be able to have
like kind of in-depth conversation.
Sense of humor is kind of a big one for me, like, and you know,
and that's kind of an umbrella thing, right?
That if they have that wit and you kind of have that back and forth
and that weird, that weird connection, you know, where you can make each other laugh.
Yeah.
And that's an umbrella, like personality, wit, intelligence thing.
It's like, if that, that's kind of the number one thing, you know.
Do you care if they're in the industry?
I'd prefer not actually.
At this stage in my life.
I get it.
Yeah.
I mean, I think it's that's part of the reason I was like my I saw my buddies on
dates with these like med students and neuroscientists.
I'm like, where you where is it?
Yeah, they're like, right.
I'm like, OK, you know, so there really are.
I have seen so far. I'm like a weekend. There are other people that, Raya. I'm like, okay. You know, so there really are, I have seen so far,
and I'm like a weekend.
There are other people that do other things
that I'm like trying to, it's such a bubble out here.
You know what I mean?
So it's, it's, it's good.
It's a lot.
You're like, I want, I want that doctor, that nurse,
the dentist.
Yeah.
What about a therapist?
Yeah, probably.
Yes.
I would love, yeah.
I see psychotherapist on there sometimes.
Right.
Oh, there you go.
I'm like, perfect. I could save some money, yes. I couldotherapist on there. Oh, there you go. Save some money. Yes
Switch therapist right now right now to my girlfriend. Yeah. Um, what's a deal breaker for you deal breaker? Oh, man
Oh
Bad tats, I don't know bad tats. Yeah, like how bad like what have you seen that you haven't liked? I don't know.
You know, that's a stupid one.
Like, cause I really don't care about that.
I'm obsessed.
We maybe like a neck tat.
It's probably like a deal breaker.
I'm obsessed.
You know, I guess a neck tat or like.
You're not loving the neck tat.
Have you gone on a date recently?
I haven't, that's the thing. It's actually never happened. gone on a date recently? You don't know that? I haven't, that's the thing.
It's actually never happened.
Where did that come from?
I don't know.
He's like picturing your face.
And you're like, just if there's a neck tat.
Okay, no neck tats.
You know, but tattoos are so ubiquitous.
But like, they're not bad.
But, oh.
It's okay, a neck tat.
We're moving on.
Punctuality too.
Okay, that's really switching gears.
You are really on time. You are early. I'm a little bit early, embarrassingly. I'm embarrassing with punctuality. Yeah, you, that's really switching gears. You are really on time.
You are early.
I'm a little bit early embarrassingly.
I'm embarrassingly punctual.
Yeah, you're like at the door like.
Hi, ready to go?
It's like an anxiety thing.
If I'm running late, it's over.
I can't calm down. I hate being late too.
Oh, I've had people so fucking late for the show,
so I appreciate that you're early.
I'm like, let's get it going.
So thank you, thank you.
Have you ever been cheated on?
Once kind of, not really.
I think, so we had like plans, like holiday plans
and like moving into the next phase of the relationship
and she abruptly broke up with me.
And then I found out that it was like,
she was, there was like an opportunity for someone
like a famous person, a really famous person, like Uber.
And then she thought that they were gonna date
and that didn't happen.
But, but.
You're like.
But yeah, but that was the only closest thing.
Yeah, to that.
That sucked.
Oh, that's sad.
But then like you know.
But I have perspective.
It was like, I have perspective on that.
So I was like, okay, whatever.
Well, and I think it also tells you something
about that person.
Totally, no, it actually helps. It actually kind of helps. Where you're like, okay, whatever. Well, and I think it also tells you something about that person. Totally, no, it actually helps.
It actually kind of helps.
Where you're like, oh, you were basically with me.
I was like, ooh, I didn't see that coming.
That's a very interesting thing to know.
But that can hurt if she goes from you to Brad.
You're like. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
You're like, I get it.
But it also indicates what you're looking for.
Right, right, right.
Okay.
Okay.
Have you ever gone through a partner's phone?
I have not, no.
I'm actually very, I have like almost the opposite
of trusting, I'm almost like too trusting of people.
Yeah, I'm like, just go do your own thing.
Like I need my own space, I'm great.
Like go- She's like fully cheating on you.
Girls night, go to Mexico.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, go have fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, go have fun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Have you ever walked in on someone
going through your phone?
Someone to go through my phone once.
It was bad.
Did you walk in on them going through it?
Or you found out?
No, I woke up in the middle of the night
to them freaking out.
No.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, if you're gonna, listen, okay.
We love this on Call Her Daddy.
If you're gonna go through anybody's phone,
you're gonna find something that you don't like.
Totally, even like a text with their mother.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're gonna find something
you don't like.
So, and I will say, there was nothing bad,
I wasn't cheating or anything.
But, you know, it was not fun.
And I was very, felt violated, but you can't like,
you know, it's like a weird thing.
Oh my God, and in the middle of the night,
like the ambush of like, wake up, and you're like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was so stressful.
You're like, you piece of shit.
And then you're like, what's happening?
And at first you're like, someone's coming into the room,
there's someone in the house, what's happening?
And then they're like, I had your phone.
Oh my, oh God, I'm like, what?
And then the first thing I was like,
wait, what are you talking about?
Right, what did you read?
I really don't think I have anything weird in there.
But yeah, it was a moment for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Did you stay with the person?
Yeah.
Yeah, we did.
Yeah, we worked it out.
Yeah.
How much longer did that last?
Another year.
Okay.
And a half.
Okay.
Yeah.
Wow. Another year and a half. Did you Wow. Another year and a half.
Did you hear about that incident a lot?
I didn't actually.
I didn't, I didn't.
But I got dragged to couples therapy.
So that was.
No!
Which I actually loved.
I thought it was.
You did.
I didn't love it, but I thought it was a good,
it wasn't what I thought it was gonna be.
I think guys are very afraid of that.
I've always been open to therapy.
I do it now. Yeah. And I think it's like going that. I've always been open to therapy. I do it now.
And I think it's like going to the gym, right?
It's like you go to the gym for a certain thing.
It's a very specific thing.
People make it this like, there's a stigma behind it.
There's no stigma.
No relationship is perfect.
And I actually had a couples therapist on the other week
and she was just talking to me about like,
it's so weird that now we've like normalized therapy,
but couples therapy.
It's like, what's wrong with you?
And I'm like, who doesn't fight in a relationship?
Who doesn't have problems?
Who doesn't, like no relationship is perfect.
So it's almost like I commend the people
that are honest about it.
Like I had said, like I went to couples therapy
and it was like the best thing for my partner and I
where I was like, I feel so much more aware
of where he's coming from because you have a person
in the room that like is so unbiased.
Neutra moderator and it's like this time
you can air out those things safely.
And it's just about being a fucking adult.
Like you learn how to be an adult,
like at least for me in this relationship.
And I was like, okay.
And it was a very nice, you know,
when you're doing it, it's like going to the dentist kind of,
you don't want to do it, but it's, you know,
it's like you do it and it was a really great thing.
So yeah.
Okay, let's talk about your show.
Obviously I'm like, we're talking about Gossip Girl.
I apologize.
But obviously we just had to get through the OG shit.
Your show, I'm obsessed with the fact that you went from
a man who was dressing like this, like uppery cider cider this like kid with a trust fund to a superhero are you loving it like being
in the one costume the whole time because I feel like a whole part of
Gossip Girl was your outfits obviously and now obviously I'm looking at you in the
same outfit every scene I'm like this is kind of interesting obviously people
haven't watched it the boys this is season four for the boys yeah come tell
me about it.
It's great, it's the most fun I've ever had
doing anything, really.
I mean, not like, you know, just like work-wise,
like the character, it's comedy, it's so much fun.
We're making fun of like the privileged, you know,
male asshole, you know what I mean, like that guy.
The costume's great, cause I never have any fittings,
I don't have to come in and do extra fittings,
so it's like one little thing,
costume's a little bit of of pain in the ass,
but it's okay.
But it's great, yeah, the show's awesome.
What happened with the whole penis?
I did.
What happened with the whole penis situation?
I didn't think about that until you started doing it.
I'm like, I know exactly, I forgot about that.
How do we?
There's a story there.
Tell everyone the story.
Which is really funny, because it was great press
for the show when it first came out,
because no one knew if the show was gonna work.
But also the creator was like, never tell anyone.
That was never tell anyone the real story, that was you.
You're like, really?
I'm like, yeah, it was me.
No, but this calendar came out, right?
This calendar came out of me and the character,
and there was this massive rocket in the suit.
And they made this calendar, and it was this massive rocket in the suit and they made this
calendar and it was really funny and very in character too but no one knew it's the satire
of a show. People are seeing this like what is this Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg produce it they're
they're amazing and they thought it would be really funny in the Genesis we hadn't even filmed anything
we were doing the suits that what if the deep just had like a raging erection in like a third of the scenes.
I thought it was brilliant.
I'm like, that's great.
It's hilarious.
It's hilarious.
So then the fittings, I started showing up
and they had a box, the character's name is the Deep.
They had a box called Little Deep's
and it was like all these different foam like pieces,
all different types.
I'm obsessed.
Settle on one.
And I'm walking around.
Oh no, first we did, so that's what happened.
We did a big, we did all these like screen test
camera shoots, photo shoots with this thing.
So we hadn't actually shot,
Amazon hasn't really even seen anything.
My first day on set, it's like a big Toronto, big stage.
I'm in front of like 2000 people,
and I come out and I'm like introducing
Erin Morari's character, and everyone just starts laughing.
Cause it's so funny, the light, you can really see this thing.
Were you at all like anxious about it, or you thought it was you can really see this thing. Were you at all anxious about it,
or you thought it was hilarious?
I thought it was hilarious.
I wasn't anxious about it.
I kind of thought though, I'm like,
guys, we gotta remove it sometimes, right?
It can't be in there forever.
It looks ridiculous.
It's so obvious.
It's so funny.
It's so funny.
And so I'm like, and literally,
they didn't, Amazon gave us no notes.
They let us do whatever.
The only note, first note was like, you gotta take didn't Amazon gave us no notes. They let us do whatever the only note first.
That was like, you got to take that thing out of deep pants.
You got to take that thing out.
So they actually spent so much money frame by frame editing out that scene
just in that area for that scene in the pilot's first episode.
Everyone forgot that we did all these.
So whoever thought in the PR thought it'd be funny to make a calendar out of it
was was was genius.
I'm obsessed.
But the calendar came out and then people didn't know,
they had no idea what that was.
I mean, you're right, it was great PR.
Cause like everyone was talking about it,
it was like, oh my God, look at this penis,
like what is happening with this like big schlong.
Like kinda looks real, I mean, it looks very real.
You'd never think it would be like a fake.
Absolutely.
Boner calendar, I mean, you know, it was great.
So you're loving it, you're having a good time. Loving it. Yeah,
yeah, still loving it. So what was that audition process like?
It was complete opposite of costume girl. It was like,
Christmas time. They were like, we got to we got to cast the
superheroes and the superheroes, the bad guys for no one's watch
the show. It's like the satire, because they said they had to
make the suits anyway, I'm like, there's no way that they're not
going to like bring people back in the suits anyway. I'm like, there's no way that they're not gonna
bring people back in the new year.
Dead Zone is December, even Thanksgiving through.
Oh my God, do I really gotta go in for this audition?
I loved the material.
I'm like, this is amazing.
Get there is complete opposite.
I'm very annoyed.
I'm like, oh, I'm gonna last.
I'm a she.
You don't think you're getting it.
There's a ton of actors in there.
Well, it's just like a cow.
There's a lot of actors at an audition. And they audition just like a cow, there's like a lot of actors that audition
and they audition everyone, no matter who you were.
But I went in there and felt really good about the audition.
I felt that I had the creator laughing
and the scenes were funny,
kind of felt like I nailed it.
And then they're like, oh, we wanna test him or whatever,
like the day after.
And I'm like, perfect, great.
So we'll go back in for like round three, four, five,
like in the new year.
And she was like, no, they're just gonna use that,
that tape you just did. And I was like, no, they're just gonna use that tape you just did.
And I was like, well, do I need to do it better?
Like, can I make some changes?
And I got nervous, cause I'm like, they're like, no,
they're just gonna play it in front
of all the Amazon Sony people.
And I'm like, that's how it works these days.
And I'm like, I have been out of the game.
Right, fuck.
But they, and that's what happened.
It was like very quick.
They kind of did the deal and they did it
between me and I think some other person. And then we, and then they, and then yeah, I had the job like before Christmas. I was like very quick. They kind of did the deal and they did it. It was between me and I think some other person.
And then we, and then they, and then yeah,
I had the job like before Christmas.
I was like, wow, this is awesome.
I don't have to go through like a month
of like pulling my hair out.
Right, like it was one and done.
Yeah, yeah.
Cause then the longer you go,
the more you want the job if you like it.
You're like, I want this thing.
And I'm like used to, in my head of waking up like,
what if I get this job?
So yeah, it was a very quick, like week long process.
Well, it's fun to see week long process. And that was it.
Well, it's fun to see you obviously back on screen
and I feel like you, yeah, your character
is quite hilarious.
It's so funny to see you in such a different light,
obviously because of the Gossip Girl OGs
that will follow you to whatever you do.
It's such a departure from that
that I kind of love that though.
Thank you, yeah.
Because I think you needed to do that
I need to do that. Yeah, I think I still need to do it even more, but I liked it was a complete shake-up and a complete
Yes, I kind of dark comedy does some weird stuff in the first episode
But it's like very dark and and and they and they give us an opportunity to show some range
So yeah comedy and some weird like insecurity there and like it's good good to show the color. So, um, what are you doing this summer?
and some weird like insecurity there. And like it's good to show the color.
So what are you doing this summer?
I'm not, you know, I got no,
I'm going to Tahoe with the family
and like in July is around my birthday.
I do like a 4th of July in Idaho with some friends up there
at this place, Gaza or whatever.
And then Tahoe and then got no Italy plans.
Got no Italy trip this year.
Me either.
I think it's okay.
It's okay.
I think it's like a little, we're over it.
It's a lot.
We're over it.
It's a lot.
We're like, no, you guys go do your thing, we'll be here.
No, I think Italy is amazing.
I think like the vibe is to not go in the summer.
I think so too.
I think so too, it's like earlier or like late season.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's probably not as expensive,
but there's also not as many people there.
Like, we're convincing ourselves why it's good
that we're not in like Capri.
We're like, it's fine, we're going to Tahoe, okay?
Okay, so you're going on some trips.
Wait, I didn't realize your sister's married to Tony Romo.
That's kind of fun.
Yeah, it's great.
He's awesome.
We grew up big Cowboys fans,
so that was like a good, really crazy time of the life.
Do your parents fucking love that?
Oh, they love it.
Yeah, they love it.
And so he's the one playing in the Tahoe golf tournament with some friends. Fun. And so it's this whole like, it's it. Yeah, they love it. And so he's the one playing in the Tahoe Golf Tournament
with some friends.
And so it's this whole, like, it's like my dad,
for him it's like better than Christmas.
He loves that little Tahoe trip.
So yeah, yeah, yeah, we go down there
and hang out with the family.
I am so happy that you came on.
I think you're such a great, cool guy.
I really had no idea what to expect, if I'm honest.
Like I was like, is he gonna be a little stiff?
Like, is he gonna, because I've never really seen you do that many interviews.
You don't do much.
I guess I don't, no.
Not in a cool, great format, conversational.
You're the best.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, this is great.
I was really excited about this.
Did you have fun?
It was chill.
I wish they were all like this, Alex.
Thank you.
You're awesome.
Thank you for coming on.
This was so fun.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Okay, Daddy Gang, I'm about to make you a little cocktail
with two of my favorite ingredients,
Patron 100% Additive Free Tequila.
We're doing Reposado and then Unwell Hydration.
They all make for incredible mixers,
but today we're using orange hibiscus.
Let's go.
So first we're gonna start with an orange.
I am going to cut a slice and we are going to put it
at the bottom of the drink so we can get even more
of these natural flavors into the drink.
Now Alex, let's think to ourselves why you don't cook
or you never really enter the kitchen.
This isn't gonna work.
Let me do that again.
Let me cut a little bit of a smaller piece.
One sec, one sec, one sec.
Honestly, it feels right that I get to finally
have my Kendall Jenner moment.
I sliced my entire hand off.
Okay, so I'm gonna put this at the bottom of my cup.
I'm just going to kind of push out the natural flavors,
you guys, okay?
Because if I'm making you a cocktail, I'm going in.
I'm putting the grit in there.
I'm gonna take the peel out,
leave a little bit of the juice and the remnants.
Let's have a taste.
Yeah, it's delicious.
One day I'll be a soccer mom bringing the orange slices.
What is this whole thing? Oh, here we go, here we go. One day I'll be a soccer mom bringing the orange slices. What is this whole thing?
Oh, here we go, here we go.
This is a bitter slice.
Okay, anyways, next, ice.
I love a cold, cold, cold cocktail.
Here's the thing, I was a bartender,
but I never weirdly ended up hooking up with a bartender.
I did hook up with the boss, but that's for another time.
Okay, so we're gonna do two ounces of Patron Reposado.
We're gonna pour this into our cup here.
Gorgeous.
And then we are going to add orange hibiscus.
Matt and I have been drinking this drink
kind of every time before we go out on like a weekend.
Ladies, if you are getting ready and you're going on a first date and you need a good cocktail,
this is the go-to. If you're coming home from a date and you're crying your eyes out,
this is the cocktail for you. I'm gonna make it gorgeous, girls. Oh, would you just look at that? A cocktail, a stiffy.
Oh my God, that looks so cute.
This has been my go-to on date nights before I go out.
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You also don't need to go get a real orange.
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Here's the thing, whenever I come home from work,
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I'm like, no, it's actually for the daddy gang,
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the sweetest wife being like, babe, you're home.
I made you a cocktail.
I'll make him another one, come on.
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