Call Her Daddy - Christina Aguilera: Getting Dirty & Talking Sex (FBF)

Episode Date: November 15, 2024

Christina Aguilera joins Call Her Daddy for her first ever podcast interview. We all know her from her countless hit songs and music videos, but Christina shares what was actually going on in her life... behind the scenes as she gained international fame. She speaks about growing up in an abusive household and becoming the caretaker of her family at a young age. Christina opens up and discusses insecurities, comparison and feelings of not being good enough. Let’s get dirty and talk about sex because Xtina isn’t here to hold back. Christina reveals her best skill in the bedroom, favorite sex position, tells a wild story of nearly getting caught on a plane and more. This episode discusses adult subject matter, including descriptions of domestic violence, and is intended for adult consumption only. Listener discretion is advised. If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence in any form, help is available. The National Domestic Violence Hotline provides free, confidential support 24/7. Call 1-800-799-SAFE, or visit TheHotline.org.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What is up daddy gang? It is your founding father Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy. Christina Aguilera, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Hi. I'm staring at your nails. Oh yes. What's happening? They're so fun, you know, they're, you know, it's open to interpretation. Is that a vagina? It could be a vagina, it could be lips, but two in the same, both pleasure points, you know? Holy shit. And then on the, and then there's an actual mouth on the,
Starting point is 00:00:36 you know, and tongue on the thumbs. I mean, this could be more appropriate for a Call Her Daddy episode, casual Christina Aguilera's, like it could be lips, it could be my pussy lips. God bless you all up for interpretation. It's amazing, I love it. I need to gas you up for a second, okay. Because just in case anyone fucking forgot,
Starting point is 00:00:56 you are a seven time Grammy award winning singer songwriter. You have sold more than 75 million records worldwide, no big fucking deal. You're an international pop icon, voice of a generation, fiance, mother, chief brand advisor, and co-founder of Playground. And this is your first ever podcast, and you chose Call Her Daddy, and I am so fucking honored.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I'm so honored. Dude, I can't believe, when I heard you'd never done a podcast, I was like, sit down, baby girl, let's go. I said yes to you because I've seen you pop up on social media, which didn't exist when I was coming up in this business and, you know, I've been doing this since I was like six or seven basically. So, but you feel safe. And I always, I appreciate that, you know, because I've been through the gamut of a lot of interviews
Starting point is 00:01:46 and people that, you know, I grew up at a time where it was like appropriate to be inappropriate and ask, you know, crazy things, but I always feel it's never like the most intelligent way to go because when you make someone feel safe, they wanna open up more and you always do. And you're so pretty by the way. Oh my God, right back at you.
Starting point is 00:02:04 No, I really appreciate that because I agree. I think that's what I wanna do and you're so pretty by the way. Oh my god, right back at you. I've always thought. No, I really appreciate that because I agree. I think that's what I wanna talk to you a little bit about today is just like, your journey has been so public and you've been in front of people for so many years that it's like, I almost feel like people feel like they deserve a piece of you. Like you're a piece of the public
Starting point is 00:02:22 and I think it's important to sit down and like humanize people in those situations cause it's like, you're a human being, you. And I think it's important to sit down and like humanize people in those situations because it's like, you're a human being, you have feelings, you've gone through shit. You're also like the queen of reinvention. You have had so many fucking eras. It's like iconic, iconic, iconic. Aside from like the present moment,
Starting point is 00:02:40 what is your most favorite era of your own? I mean, it's gotta be probably stripped and dirty and beautiful and fighter, can't hold us down. You know, it was the time when I was turning, you know, as 20, 21, I'd already gotten my foot in the door and my first album was successful, but it was still very like played by the rules and, you know, very given a set by label,
Starting point is 00:03:05 very label driven. And so after that, I was like, I have to do songs that mean something to me and are valid to who I am and being fearless in talking about anything. And that includes sexuality. I felt that there was a lot of shame and fear around the subject, and especially as a woman, we're raised with a lot of stigma.
Starting point is 00:03:35 There's a lot of, it's so layered. And it's tough to be a woman, so I wanted to really be who I was and make it a safe space for everyone to feel good and make it a safe space for everyone to feel good and make it a conversation. That era of yours for women in general, but it's also so funny we can look back on it, but I know there was pushback during that era, which we'll talk about,
Starting point is 00:03:57 because it's so funny, now it's like, oh, go off Christina, but it's also like crazy to then read the tabloids back then. Oh, 100%. Well first how does it feel like the amount of people that still recreate your outfits whether it was red carpet, music videos like it's insane every fucking Halloween it's like Christina everywhere. How does that feel that that's still so powerful in people's minds?
Starting point is 00:04:18 It's incredible. I love it so much just because you know, now it's celebrated and it feels good. And even the people that, you know, got it then, but there was a lot of pushback. There was a lot of, you know, double standards with it. And there was a lot of, you know, cause I went on tour with, you know, Justin. We did the Strip Justified tour. And there were things where I was just like,
Starting point is 00:04:40 why is it okay for him and not okay for me? You know what I mean? And so it was just like, I was constantly pushing back and my way, I mean, it was so inappropriate sometimes the things that were asked about that era. It's so crazy to me. And I, again, I agree with you, like that comparison of like a man doing the same thing,
Starting point is 00:04:57 which we'll get into cause it's like, I'm doing the same thing and yet I'm being called a slut. And like, he's like the boy next door. Let's go back to the first time that you stepped on a stage. You were nine years old competing on the show Star Search. Whose idea was it for you to do a show like that? I was at that time raised by my mom and my grandma. So strong women.
Starting point is 00:05:39 And my grandma specifically really was so proud and, you know and really pushed it to be taken seriously as something to be professional. Because singing always just came to me as this release. I grew up in a chaotic upbringing as a very young child and always kind of feeling like a protector and all that and always felt isolated sort of in my position, in my situation. And so singing, it was the sound of music that first inspired me to sing. And from then I just, you know, it was like just a release and a form of expression for me before I even understood what that meant. And then whenever my parents got divorced, moved in with my grandma,
Starting point is 00:06:23 my grandma was like, you know, this could, this could be something. It's so crazy that you're like, I just saw it as like a release where I was using like, and meanwhile, we're like, we see you as one of the most truly talented singers of period point blank, like hit notes that no one can. But you kind of mentioned your childhood. And again, I think something in media is like, we see this version of you that's so put together and it's like, oh, it's Christina Aguilera. She has money, she has fame. You mentioned that you kind of grew up
Starting point is 00:06:54 in an abusive household, but do you remember like the first moment you realized like this is unsafe or something was wrong? Fear, you know, you have to listen to your body and fear is something that you innately feel. So right then and there, something doesn't feel good and it's not right. And then having so much compassion for my mother
Starting point is 00:07:25 And having so much compassion for my mother and seeing when you see someone being hurt, someone you love, whoo, yeah. That I still, at 42, I'm still affected by this. It's under the surface. Trauma never leaves you. You just figure out ways to try and heal it. And to me, it's therapeutic to speak about it. And I saw my mom go through so much
Starting point is 00:07:49 that I think that instilled a level of purpose for me in the sense of I always wanna try and empower other people and people in situations where they feel voiceless and unheard and I just have such a deep-rooted need to try and use my voice and I would later discover and understand what that meant to me. But it never leaves you.
Starting point is 00:08:14 And your trigger when you see movies, when I just immediately you go to that place. And I've done a lot of healing and a lot of growth and releasing, you know, a lot of anger comes with that. A lot of shame comes with that. But you know, it takes a lot for a woman to leave those situations as well. And my heart goes out because some of them don't leave them. And you know, and that could vary in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 00:08:43 You know, sometimes it's financial, sometimes it's fear of authorities not helping, and then it getting worse. Sometimes it feels like there's no way out. But my mom, luckily, she really, we would do these drives from, at the time it was the last straw, from Jersey to my grandma's in Pittsburgh, and we would just these nightly just me her and my little sister and we would
Starting point is 00:09:08 just like do the night drive but you know all of that it stays with you but it's become a part of what's important to me is my message. When you say you would do these drives was it while your mom had it? I've never talked about that before. Yeah. You're a good girl. Yeah, fuck. Five minutes in. No, but I'm like, holy fuck. Was that when you were still, your mom hadn't left your dad yet, but you were like, or had they left? There was some back and forth.
Starting point is 00:09:33 There's some back, there's, you know, there was some back and forth. There's always the tug of like, I'm never gonna do it again. You know, there's sweet talking involved. There's a lot of shame also in like, well, why don't you just leave? It is so much more complicated than that and it's a mental breakdown of self-esteem
Starting point is 00:09:51 and you start to believe someone else's narrative and verbal abuse to you. And self-esteem is something that can break down so easily, even to the most powerful woman executive. It doesn't matter what you do. This you know we can go on stage and have these larger-than-life personas, but all it takes is for you to believe someone's negative narrative about you once it's in there and it's working its way in. That's why I'm like so adamant with my daughter. I'm
Starting point is 00:10:18 just like first time somebody ever hits you, the first time somebody makes you feel not right about yourself. Woo, girl, I'm so protective, mama bear. But as you should be, because like you said, like you have that trauma in you that like, you're like, I watch a fucking movie and I can feel it. And I love what you said about the concept of when someone says, why don't you just leave?
Starting point is 00:10:41 When people say that, it's such an ignorant statement that like pisses me off. I had a loved one that was in an abusive relationship and you're like, it's so much more fucking complex. But to leave, do you remember the moment that was like, your mom was like, we're out? Yes, officially when the abuse started to really turn onto me, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:03 we were living in Japan for like three years. So we were super isolated, which is where I started singing and looking back that's where I started to kind of like sing out of this window. I have a thing about like windows and like they just, when you're feeling just, you know, trapped, I don't know, there's something about the representation of a window and just like there's hope on the other side, you know? And so that's where I started, you know, singing these songs from like the sound of music and just to myself. And just that image, I'll always remember. It's like a core memory of just like, there's like something on the other side. There's like a bigger world. There's a bigger purpose. I felt it as at a really young age. But yes, it was like a matter of things. And like you're in a foreign country where my dad was in the army
Starting point is 00:11:46 So we're on an army base. I mean in a situation like that, too abuse runs rampant, you know, the walls are paper thin, you know where we're living and and You can hear abuse just happening on the other side of the wall. You can hear I mean, you know It's terrifying and it's like all you want to do is help But a lot of times even when you call the authorities, you don't get the help that you need and then the door shuts and you're with your abuser again. So it's so important to try and research all you can, speak to people that you can trust and really, you know, try and get yourself out of these situations because worst case scenario,
Starting point is 00:12:26 you won't live to tell the story about it. Was it hard for your mother to, as a single mother, take care of you and your sister? Then you started making money. Were you kind of providing for your family? Yes. Yes, sweetheart. Yes, still am. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:12:46 In this role too, it comes with responsibility and responsibility that I know is destined for me and I take on and I take it on well. When you're in those situations, you grow up really fast and you become like an immediate caretaker and protector of the person that's being hurt. And so yeah, this is just like kind of like my role. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All my dogs are rescues, like, you know, I'm just that person that needs to help.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Your mother, your mother. Yes, I'm a mother. I think back and I'm like 12 years old, you join the Mickey Mouse Club, Brittany, Justin, and I'm thinking about like how wild that time must have been for your life. What do you remember like learning at 12 about the industry at that time?
Starting point is 00:13:36 It's a work ethic, you know, it teaches you work ethic. You're given a schedule, you know, where you are in a call sheet, you know, like it's very disciplined and you either built for that or you're not. It's something that you realize very quickly if you're cut out for that kind of lifestyle. It's hectic, it's chaotic, it's go, go, go,
Starting point is 00:13:58 it's on the run and that only builds the more you create. And I have to say, and my mom would always say this too, she wasn't like your typical, I would be around these kids who were just like really forced to do this. And my heart would break for them. And my mom would be like, what is wrong with her? Cause you see these mothers
Starting point is 00:14:17 and the kid doesn't even wanna do it. But it was just, this is what I was born to do. So it was something that we really knew. And I pushed for the performances to happen again, but just in the most, I think, organic way to start, just because I loved it. And for the first time, I was around a bunch of other kids who really loved it too.
Starting point is 00:14:38 It was just born performers. And it was really cool to feel that energy because coming up in school, in the town that I grew up, it wasn't really like, it's a sports town, and that kind of thing was very celebrated, but arts and creativity and whatnot, you have that in Pittsburgh. But yeah, I just didn't have a lot of kids
Starting point is 00:15:00 that truly loved doing that, and those kids were just how talented everyone was. Ryan Gosling, like, you know, Keri Russell, there was just so many people that it was just like, wow, what a casting agent, you know, to get everybody together. I do relate to like feeling a little bit like you're out of place where you grew up and it only exacerbates the feeling of like wanting to get out
Starting point is 00:15:26 and wanting to find like-minded people. But it's so interesting also hearing you talk because it's like, it feels like you were almost made to have to grow up very quickly in many ways. Where like your ambition immediately led you to working at a young age, your family situation, you had to grow up quickly. Is there anything that you wish that you could have done more as like a child and in your
Starting point is 00:15:53 in your younger life that you didn't really get to have a normal childhood? That's a good question. Um, in really thinking about it? Probably no. I feel like I love my life. No, sometimes I would, you know, because I was working a lot, but I wanted to go. You know, I wanted to, you know, I wanted to work, you know. I've always operated on like fight or flight, you know, in many different ways. And the more successful you are, of course, more is gonna come with that that's very demanding
Starting point is 00:16:32 and very scrutinizing. Do you think though, there's the part of you that was really ambitious, and then naturally, like we are who we are from like our childhood and nature versus nurture. Like when you say like you were always running, wanting to go, have you connected that at all to also your childhood? It could have been.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I haven't really dissected that part, but I always dreamt really big. I always dreamt really big. Yeah, it could be. Looking for some sort of maybe escapism. I mean, I think half the people that are in this business where we need, you know, it sucks because we're the most sensitive people on the planet,
Starting point is 00:17:16 yet we're looking for like, you know, but we have this like alter ego that we have to turn on to get the work done and to follow a schedule but Also that makes us so vulnerable and in needing some kind of weird validation totally totally Your breakout solo genie in a bottle. I was gonna say top the charts. That's like a fucking understatement It took over the world. What do you remember about the day that that song was released?
Starting point is 00:17:48 I was still in New York. I was living. I was on my own pretty early to trying to get a record deal. And so I was like, you know, house hopping from like odd places from my manager's house at the time to another manager. Like it was very odd and weird. And I would again, mama bear like never with my daughter. Like I would be so like protective and overseeing all that, which is a whole other story. But in New York, yeah, was where I started hearing it on the radio for the first time. So the album wasn't completely done and out. And I was just remember hearing that
Starting point is 00:18:27 and I was just like, oh my God. And it took me back to like driving around the car in Pittsburgh and only hoping that I would like hear my song one day on the radio and just dreaming about it. Again, big dreamer, Sagittarius, very like, you know, sky's the limit, I'm gonna do this. So it was the most amazing feeling in the world.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yeah. And I think again, it's almost like dissecting like what everyone was watching in the world was like Jeannie Nabato, Christina Aguilera, like this hot, amazing, talented young woman. Then you're saying like, oh, I'm like living with managers. I'm like kind of in managers, I'm like, kind of in sketchy situations where the world probably wouldn't even fucking fathom that
Starting point is 00:19:09 Christina Aguilera wasn't like set up and all good. But what were you emotionally going through at that time? Oh, man, that's a loaded question. What was I emotionally going through at that time? I mean, looking back, I didn't have much time to even think about anything. I was given the schedule, I was told what to do. Told what to do.
Starting point is 00:19:34 My true opinion didn't really matter from everything. I remember being told what to wear, what the image was gonna be, and not feeling super comfortable. That's also the product of a kid being raised in the business too. Growing up and you're constantly being told by adults, and mainly men, how and what to be.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And you're hearing conversations too of what their ideal woman should be and look like. And so at a young, impressionable age, I just remember it was just so you take certain things on. And then you have to reprogram to think for yourself and what makes sense for you. So it's a lot to take on. So your dreams are coming true, but you're not
Starting point is 00:20:23 quite getting to be the person that you want to be and and telling the stories you want to tell It's like so helpful. I didn't live through all that for nothing But straight up I will be real with you It's I really think it's so helpful to hear you talk about this because I remember myself sitting at home with my older sister watching these videos and to know that like this first era not to take anything away from it but like that wasn't fully you like that was like a lot of men in a room constructing like let's have her hair look like this and let's like have her wear this which I get as part of the industry. But also, then my heart goes out for baby Christina
Starting point is 00:21:06 because I'm like, that age for a young woman to already be dealing with insecurities and figuring yourself out, and then to have men be like, we need this, this, this, you were exposed to such a different level of criticism and someone being so fixated on your looks, like how did that affect your self worth? I mean, it's a lot.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I mean, you could only imagine. It's difficult enough growing up and trying to figure it out away from the camera, but being in front of it and scrutinized and picked apart and judged and everybody's got a different opinion. That's the one thing I learned really early on is like, whoa, no matter what I do,
Starting point is 00:21:53 somebody's gonna be anti it and somebody's not gonna be happy with it. And I was like, and I'd always diaried and journaled and I always had this, thank God, this core sense of myself and what I wanted my purposes and my messages to do and to help. And that's what I feel like kept me riding that core line of bringing me back to real purpose
Starting point is 00:22:18 and to be authentic with what I did. Then you decided, fuck this. I'm going to add my twist and add actually Christina into the mix of who I am and what I wanna be. And you came out with the Dirty Music video, which is so fucking iconic. I was watching it this morning, just being like, every time, every time I just get excited to watch it.
Starting point is 00:22:45 But at the time, the press pinned you as this bad girl. They were slut shaming you. There were literally celebrities coming out being like, God damn, she looks like a horse, she looks like a slut, which is so fucking crazy because as I was watching it, re-watching it this morning, I was like, it's such a major celebration of the female body and sexuality. How do you remember breaking away from what everyone wanted you to do and
Starting point is 00:23:13 making this happen slash then how did those comments affect you once you released it? Yeah, so many things popping through my mind. Yeah. Yeah, let's go. Woo. Yeah, like 10 answers in there that I could think of. But yes, I was actually surprised. Because I was so in my zone of just expressing and creating this album and just truly trying to make every facet of it speak of myself as a woman. And I didn't want to fit a box of like, I'm sweet and vulnerable and demure,
Starting point is 00:23:50 and I'm going to do the programmed pop format. But I'm not any particular one thing or one brand. And that's what I did not like about the business, is the fact that they immediately try to box you and label it so that it's easier for them to understand. But it was hard, you know, being a kid and being like, oh my God, I'm just trying to live my life. I'm 21, I'm having fun.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Like these were my college years, you know? This was my moment, except everybody could see it. But I was having, you know, I'm an artist at the end of the day. I, you know, this is how I express myself, you know? And I wasn't just coming with dirty, you know, I'm an artist at the end of the day. This is how I express myself, you know? And I wasn't just coming with dirty, you know? Then we came with beautiful, and then we came with fighter, which was a representation kind of of my past and going against the grain of people that I felt really wronged me.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Because that's another thing, you know, people steal from you, people that are so close to you. I remember being so devastated about people that really disappointed me to my core. That I was like, oh wow, I feel really alone. It really, and then you wanna retreat, and then you wanna get defense mechanisms up, and then you don't trust anyone. As if I didn't already have trust issues from my childhood.
Starting point is 00:25:01 That's just like layers on layers on layers. But in any case, it's part of my journey. It's what I was about to say. It's just like layers on layers on layers. But in any case, you know, it's part of my journey. It's what I was meant to go through. And honestly, I wouldn't have it any other way because had I knock on through all these things, I wouldn't sing the way I do. I wouldn't create the way I do. I wouldn't write the way I do.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I was like a sponge. I just like took it all in. And when I was ready to just be like, no more, more I don't care and I remember being quoted saying, you know I don't care this next record if I sell one record or one million like All the the cool like accolades and stuff. That's amazing I'm grateful but at the end of the day I have to like sit with myself and feel like I'm Contributing a bigger thing to the world than just a pop song and a
Starting point is 00:25:46 chart and an award like It's deeper than that to me and that's what I always and that's what I set out to do with stripped And I was able to do it. Thank God, you know after getting my foot in the door But I was gonna then play by my own rules and represent the kind of woman that I wanted to be. I'm just like sitting here a little, not in shock, but I will say like, you truly never know what you're gonna get when someone walks in a door and I'm picturing Christina Aguilera,
Starting point is 00:26:31 like grew up obsessing over you, had posters, like you're so fucking normal. I don't know where I would be if like at this age I started working and at this age, I'm living with creepy managers and then this age people are stealing from you and to see you sitting here and having such a grasp on what happened to you,
Starting point is 00:26:53 but every statement you constantly are like, but I'm grateful and I have perspective. And it's really cool to see how you've kind of taken ownership of what you can. Don't give any of those bastards any fucking out though. I look back at articles and I feel like there were so many comments on your, you're like, oh, the articles.
Starting point is 00:27:13 You're like, sweetie, which ones? Take a sip. You're like, is there alcohol in here? No. Were you happy being known as the tiny girl with the big voice? How did you feel about your body as a young woman that the world is commenting on your body?
Starting point is 00:27:28 It was crazy growing up and then yeah, hearing people talk about, I mean, everything, everything. It's having opinions on everything, your looks, your voice, your style, it's everything. Back then you also exuded this confidence confidence sexually like on stage and and in your your music and for the world we were all like oh my god like I want to be like her like she's so sexy and beautiful and smart and talented. How did you feel about your sexuality back then? I wanted to always own it you know it was important to me. I didn't I think also you know
Starting point is 00:28:03 the older I got and the more, and by that time, for most people, that would maybe be in your 30s to have that mindset of like, I'm gonna do things my way. I mean, I'd grown up with so many opinions that I was just like, I'm not gonna play by your rules. I'm not gonna see myself as you see me. I'm gonna own my sexuality for myself.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Sexuality is a beautiful thing, and we need to take care of it as women. We need to really make sure that we prioritize it and ourselves and what it means to us, because every woman is different. And I never wanted to also insert the fact that I was so comfortable with my sexuality, and like, yeah, we're gonna dance it, we're gonna do, you know what I mean, like all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I never wanted to also, you know, even though it did anyway, make some women like, you know, uncomfortable with what I was doing, but I never wanted to make it like, you know, you have to be this way too. Like everyone has their different comfort zone with it and just because I wanna express myself this way, like let, again, let people live.
Starting point is 00:29:05 You know, like let everybody own it the way and they need to own it. Let's talk about it, you know. And back then, you know, that's what's cool about what you do, what you do, is we're able to have these open conversations now. Now I see women more than ever talking to each other and it's like okay and so accessible with our phones
Starting point is 00:29:24 and like social media That's the positive of it and and and everything is is that we get to like have more accessibility Totally totally and be like this happening to right like are we on the same page girl like totally? But I didn't have that back then so yes It was it was very hard and very terrifying and I took so much personal I really did and then you have people in this situation This is why you're my first podcast because you have you know You're so used to creating these like certain walls and defense mechanisms because you're just like people are baiting you and then you're like
Starting point is 00:29:55 Wait, I didn't say that I didn't say it like that. You know how it is No, dude, you're so right because I feel like your era of coming up, it was like- Extra hard, yeah. Paparazzi, tabloids, I'm like, holy shit, people so fixated on every single move. What was dating like for you? What was your dating life like as you were coming up in your career, late teens?
Starting point is 00:30:23 I didn't really have time for that, but I did, I always went for things that I would feel safe about. Like, you know, we'd have our, you know, you'd travel and you'd meet certain people, but I was, it's so funny that I gave this persona because I probably was like the last person to lose my virginity. I don't know, it was something that was for me.
Starting point is 00:30:52 You know what I mean? And that's I guess why my messages went the way they did too is because I owned it first, maybe. But it doesn't matter how it goes down as long as you find your way and your path with being comfortable with yourself, but We always get like off topic when did you lose your virginity? Bring me back girl. Tell us it was later than you would think okay You know given the girl that was doing dirty and all this you know, but yeah It's just it's more of a funny thing looking back where it's just like people thought probably like you were popping off
Starting point is 00:31:23 a funny thing looking back where it's just like people thought probably like you were popping off but yeah it was I had you know I had certain dancers that were like close quarter because you have to like you know you're traveling a lot and you there's you're you have accessibility only so many things so you know it is what it is and then you, you know, like, I mean, yeah, a lot of things that I'm just like, yeah, maybe I should have realized he wasn't looking at me, wasn't interested in me, you know, like, he's looking at him. No! Christina!
Starting point is 00:31:57 There's a lot of things, you know, that I'm just like, oh, sad. Like I feel bad for like my younger self. Like, oh, sad. I love you little PR trained. You're like, and maybe a dancer that was more into men and I should have seen. So, OK, so you like you had an interesting experience. Despite being such an icon, I was looking, I'm like, you don't have to crazy of like a celebrity roster attached to your name.
Starting point is 00:32:24 And my question is, Miss Aguilera, was that actually because that was intentional or were you just really good at keeping things hidden and a little secret that we didn't know about? Yeah, I definitely, I've had my experiences, but I also like, I mean, my life is hectic enough. And like, this is a very narcissistic industry. And my anxieties couldn't maybe take somebody
Starting point is 00:32:50 that did the exact same thing I did and ran around and traveled. It's like, I know how this goes. I'm too vulnerable for this. I'm too sensitive to be so paranoid. So this business is very demanding. It's a lot. And yeah, I just, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:11 I've definitely not been into the celebrity thing. Right. No, that's really refreshing to hear because it's like you see some people trying to, it's obvious on the internet, oh, this couple is appearing and it's like to stay relevant. And I can imagine how obnoxious that word is of being in the industry for so long.
Starting point is 00:33:31 It's like, how does the stress of managers and people being like, we need to stay relevant, we need to do this, how does that affect you? It's just annoying more than anything else. I don't wanna be corny and be like, but it really is to me about intentions, you know? And if it doesn't feel right to me, like I just can't do it.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I can't, I have a really hard time forcing myself. It wasn't interesting to me, I don't know. That's so interesting too, because I feel like- I like more like the guys next door. Interesting. Because you know what? It's so fascinating. It's like, did anyone ever try to be like,
Starting point is 00:34:03 hey, like look at these people doing couples, like this will make your career even crazier. Yeah, I've, you know, I've had that. I just, if it's not real to me and authentic, I can't do it. You know, I can't force something as personal as that. Totally. I know you mentioned trust issues.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Is there any, cause I don't think a lot of us can fathom the amount of cameras and paparazzi back then, like is there any paranoia that has lingered in you? Oh yeah, a hundred percent. I mean, I went through a bad period at a certain time where even like the clicking of the camera paparazzi like just was so like upsetting to me.
Starting point is 00:34:43 I'd like have a panic attack. And I know I've heard other celebrities actually say this too. And then you have really horrible stories that happen whenever you, again, starting to believe a narrative, you know? And then, yeah, it's a very weird thing. That kind of attention and that kind of that world.
Starting point is 00:35:06 So yeah, that is a part of too why it's just like, it's very anxiety riding for me. Let's talk a little bit about relationships. And then we're gonna talk about sex. First with relationships, I'm curious cause I am currently in therapy and I think it's so interesting of like, we're all trying to undo shit
Starting point is 00:35:27 that our parents fucked us up with. It's just the fact. I don't care if you have perfect parents, then you're still fucked up. So it's like, are there any patterns in relationships, previous relationships that you now kind of recognize that you had to stop and try to break moving forward? Like bad patterns.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Mm-hmm. Yeah. You know, it's still a process sometimes to really, you have to check yourself too. I think there's accountability in, you know, things that even though they're not your fault, you're still conditioned and programmed in a way of fear and paranoia.
Starting point is 00:36:07 And also sometimes not given a good guideline can really mess you up, you know? Because then it's like, is this normal? Or is this just like, or is this something I need to leave the relationship for? Like I'm so like into being like, okay wait, do I need to be taking this shit right now? Or can I walk the, or should I walk the fuck away?
Starting point is 00:36:27 Like, you know what I mean? Like what's normal? What's like, so it's a constant. I, you know, I believe in therapy too, the right kind of therapy. I know that you mentioned you have like a collection of diaries that you've kept for like 20 some years. What's a diary entry that makes you kind of sad
Starting point is 00:36:48 for your younger self when you read it? I think just, yeah, how hurt I was because I was so into this being like, one day I'm gonna make it and I'm gonna see myself on MTV and like all this stuff, like it was just, it was such a dream and coming from such a good place to all of a sudden you're shook by all the shit that comes with the success. And yeah, I think it's like, it's sad when I, when I see how, how some like press and articles and some interviews
Starting point is 00:37:25 that were just so taken out of context or just mean how hurt I was by that truly affected. And then yeah, it just makes you internalize negative thoughts about yourself and feelings. If you can share, what was something specific? And you know, back then there was a lot of like, you know, it was a different business where there was a lot of, you know, female comparisons and double standards with women. And it was a constant like pitting against each other and like it just felt like just
Starting point is 00:38:02 punches in the face. And it was just, you know, yeah, it's fucking hard. It was hard to just constantly feel like, you know, you're making music and doing something you love and then, you know, someone's spinning something so negative about it. And it was just, it was really hard because sometimes who you were pitted against,
Starting point is 00:38:23 you actually genuinely, you actually genuinely loved and respected. So it was just like, but again, then you have people like baiting you and do you know what she said about you? Well, you know what I mean? And then you're like, wait, what? So it's just like, and you're too much of a kid to understand like what's happening.
Starting point is 00:38:45 I hated that shit. That's why also like now I'm just so excited to see more exposed women supporting women because now you're cutting through the middle man a lot more, which is really, really nice. Yeah, I think it clearly worked for the tabloids to have characters and ideas of if we put this person against this person, this is going to sell through because these are two huge
Starting point is 00:39:12 names or three huge names or this cut. It's so insane. But then it's like, I'm an individual. Why can't I just be Christina Aguilera, this incredible singer, and leave it at that and then let everyone also have their own careers? there's so many other people thriving and that must have been very- I remember there was a headline that was comparing me with another artist and it was like, it's like Roe vs. Wade, hit the side.
Starting point is 00:39:39 And I was like, oh my God, you're so dramatic. And I was too young to even really understand what that meant. So I was like, you could just understand the level of like how young I was being thrust into this world that was like, wait, what are you saying? What are you saying? Dude, the pettiness to compare people to Roe v. Wade?
Starting point is 00:40:01 Like, let's tone it down a notch,Z or whoever the fuck you know what I mean? I know I know it was like a newspaper it wasn't even like um yeah it was too much it was too much okay I love to ask people this because it does give insight what is your biggest insecurity girl um what is my biggest insecurity? Oh my God, I really wasn't prepared for that question. I don't know, I could think of, I mean, I don't know, every day it's something different. It's a part of you.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Like, oh, what is my biggest insecurity? Um, what is my biggest insecurity? Biggest insecurity, I think we all have this where we just don't feel good enough, I don't know. In every sense, you know, I think we can all pick different parts of ourselves and pick ourselves apart forever. But I really, it's something you have to train yourself against.
Starting point is 00:41:08 When you say you're not good enough. Okay. Take a sip. She's coming back. No, but when you say you're not good enough. Everything, like, you know, I mean, I think this business operates like a business, you know, and it's all self-worth thing and then image. Yeah, I've been through the gamut of, you know, people growing up in this business are going to see you as a teenager kid.
Starting point is 00:41:33 They're going to see you as a young woman coming into your body and expressing yourself. They're going to see you as a grown woman. They're going to see you be pregnant, they're gonna see you go through the gamut of different places and stages of your life where you're different kind of weights. And we all go through these things as women in general, but yeah, it's so hard to just be inundated with different opinions. And everybody has different standards for what they want.
Starting point is 00:42:02 But again, women embracing this now more than ever. So. Yeah, not being good enough, I think, is the perfect answer that makes sense of just a culmination of this whole interview is like you wanting to be yourself and being in an industry where it's like picking apart every fucking thing you do,
Starting point is 00:42:20 whether it's the people you're working with or the media. And it's like, it's never good enough. It's never good enough. It's almost like. Yeah, it's never. Right're working with or the media. And it's like, it's never good enough. It's never good enough. It's almost like, right? Yeah, it's never, never. Cause everyone has a definition of what good enough means. And then the same people that are rating good enough don't feel good about themselves.
Starting point is 00:42:35 And so like, where is this all like stemming? So it's cyclical and you have to really isolate your perspective. Cause even whenever, you know, someone's comparing you to someone else, you're like, well, wait, should I be compared like you start to second-guessing yourself and so yeah it's it's it's tough out there it's tough out there and how we get through that is by having sex transition I'm like no
Starting point is 00:42:59 let's talk about sex. Yeah What is your favorite part about sex getting off I What is your favorite part about sex? Getting off. I mean, like, but it's not that cut and dry. My favorite part, I love intimacy. It depends. Every person is different. And that's what I love about sexuality. I love getting into it and finding out how everyone operates.
Starting point is 00:43:42 You know, how much of a freak are you? How much of a, you know, submissive are you? Like, what is your, what is your playground? How much of a freak are you, Christina? How much of a freak are you? I would say, I, actually this is a question, cause I will answer that. I will say I remember my sex in college.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I had lost my virginity in high school and I was like, I don't even know what I was supposed to just feel from that. Like what the fuck just happened? Like, was that supposed to feel good? And then when I got to college, I felt like, oh, I'm like having good sex. No, I fucking wasn't.
Starting point is 00:44:19 No, I fucking wasn't. I thought, because I was comparing it to high school sex, which was like literally sandpaper and it was like awful feeling. So I'm like, then I think as I started to explore my sexuality more like junior, senior year of college, I started to be more confident and kind of being like, fuck the guy,
Starting point is 00:44:40 like I'm gonna get myself off. And that's when I got a vibrator and I started to use lube. And it's like- Game changer. When you can get yourself off first and you're like, oh, that is what I wanna feel every time I'm fucking a guy, a girl, whoever it is. So I would say as I've explored more in the bedroom,
Starting point is 00:44:58 I've just naturally become more of a freak because I'm like, I wanna feel this, I wanna feel this with my partner. I want us to like explore new things together, if that makes sense. So it's been like a gradual progression. But I was like, I wasn't like fucking like great in college and I thought I was like a freak. But nobody, you know, nobody is,
Starting point is 00:45:19 nobody knows what they're doing at first. That's why it should feel like exploration and it's okay. But you're so insecure at that age and you see these movies and all that. You just wanna have it all figured out right off the bat or you're too young to speak up for yourself. And it kills me too whenever you're grown and you feel too insecure to speak up for yourself.
Starting point is 00:45:41 When you're not in a relationship that feels safe enough for you to have these conversations or even to compare notes with other women because it's so shameful. But sex is fun. And knowing your body is so important. And you're only going to know your body when you spend time with yourself first so that you even know what to ask from your partner or what you like.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Do you incorporate toys into the bedroom? I do, I mean like, you know, as you mentioned, the vibrator was a game changer whenever I was, you know, first exploring myself and, you know, first sex store I ever went into and, you know, I was just like, oh my God, I literally remember even having like this little like pocket-sized one I could like pack in my bag on an airplane, like I was horny, oh my god, I literally remember even having like this little like pocket-sized one
Starting point is 00:46:25 I could like pack in my bag on an airplane like I was horny like, you know what I mean? Like are you getting off on an airplane? I know she's excited just hugging about it Yes, of course, are you kidding me? like sometimes sometimes it's an anxiety thing too like a lot of girls like when I'm like I would feel it very early on. Like when I was like in school, like even as a girl, if like I felt nervous about something, I would be like, oh, oh.
Starting point is 00:46:53 You're like, oh, when did you start masturbating? What was the first time you masturbated? Oh my God, when was? Well, I think we all kind of like start as little girls. Like when you rub up against things and it feels good and you know, like, you know, I think that's also whenever it's just like you have to be like, it's okay, like that's for, you know, have your private time so you're not doing it in front of like company.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Yeah. You just, you have to learn these things and sometimes we don't have good teachers and that make us feel safe. So that came early on. So it was like, you know, some people I think have more sensitive areas and I just, I've always been engaged with. I love it.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Understanding there's things happening down there. Christina is masturbating on planes. She's getting off. She's having the best time of her life. What is your best skill in the bedroom? Oh, wow. Oh my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Like, where do I begin? I mean, hands down, it's got to be blow jobs. I mean, I love a blow job. And I enjoy it. I had a lot of also male friends who I was always like, and what do you do here? I grew up around them, so it's like I know every different part and the sensitive areas.
Starting point is 00:48:19 And I literally do enjoy it. I hear some of them don't like it, but I don't know, man. It's a turn on, you know? It is because, and I love that you're saying that too, cause like we're like, we can enjoy ourselves, get off. There's nothing better than if a guy actually knows how to eat you out, but there's something so hot about pleasuring your partner
Starting point is 00:48:40 because that gets me off. I don't want like him to not be enjoying it cause I know I'm gonna be enjoying myself. Do you have any little tips? Is there any? You're like I know the areas like what areas Christina? Well again sexuality is a very you know specific thing so like what one guy might like another one doesn't you know like there are some guys that don't like their balls being touched or tampered with. There are some guys that like brutal things happening to them and you know tampered with. There are some guys that like brutal things happening to them and you know yeah there's a lot of different levels you know that's why it's important to like be with a partner where you can really just explore and
Starting point is 00:49:14 there's still a lot more things that I have not explored yet that are on my to-do list and you know I think you know it's it's hard when you also have kids. You're trying to keep a PG. Sometimes it's been like, oh, okay, and you're here. Okay, amazing. So it's a lot of things, but it's something you have to make time for. But yeah, I love that. And I also like, I mean, I think there's something to be said after you put in the hard work. I think swallowing is really a good thing
Starting point is 00:49:46 and it's got a lot of protein, I have to say. I'm a promoter of the swallow, okay? I didn't put in that hard work for nothing. We went in there, I got tugged and pulled and there's things happening, maybe gagged, I don't know. But I mean, hey, whatever your pleasure points are, but it's fun. It should be fun, you know, as long as you feel good and safe with your partner,
Starting point is 00:50:14 whatever your your bag is. But I fucking love you. I love you so much. That was fucking amazing. OK, top three sex positions. Oh, I think, oh, you're fun. I don't think, you know, like you're actually safe to talk to, it's not creepy. Yeah, like a male journalist like Christina, top three.
Starting point is 00:50:39 You're like, I don't have sex anymore. Definitely a new dawn, new day. You'll be safe about it. It depends on the mood. Definitely, I mean, I love a lot of positions. Sometimes it's nice early in the morning, from your side, from behind. And there's holding involved and spooning involved. I love to cuddle.
Starting point is 00:51:00 I love to feel safe and protected. But then I get too hot. And then I'm like, OK, leave me alone. I just wanted to feel safe and protected, but then it's like, I get too hot, and then I'm like, okay, leave me alone. I just wanted to feel it for a second, and then I'm good. But. Ha ha ha. The morning from the side is also so nice
Starting point is 00:51:13 because it's like, we're half doing it, we're not, but it's kind of a nice wake up, you can get your vibrator in there. And then your ass starts being like, oh, oh, and then you're pulling, I mean, I like it. Uh-huh, uh-huh. The chair is becoming my friend. Uh-huh, uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Because then halfway through, you're doing it from the side, and then you kind of flip on your stomach, and then it's from behind. The whole thing is nice. It's so good. I mean, you don't know where it's going to go. Sky's the limit. But there's that, yeah, some good doggies sometimes,
Starting point is 00:51:38 like in the shower. There's been some good times. There's the studio sound board. you know, I've been, you know, there's been some good times, you know, like there's like the studio soundboard and, you know, been bent over there a couple times. It's, it's fun, you know, use your imagination, you know. Christina, I love that. Playing can be fun. We've definitely had some things under the blankets when the seats are big enough to like, you know, we've been, you know, I can't believe we didn't get caught like so many times in so many situations, like thank the Lord, but.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I have always thought about that, but I feel like I'm too much of like a pussy that I was like, fuck, I don't know if I'm gonna be able to pull that off. Yeah, you gotta be like a- Are you talking about a private plane though? No, I'm not actually. On international flights, you know, they turn the light off, like the chairs are like,
Starting point is 00:52:22 I don't know where you're sitting, but you know, there's always like room for like, get creative. And you know, blankets the chairs are like, I don't know where you're sitting, but there's always room for, get creative. And you know, blankets, it's like the position we just talked about, the little spoon, it's like, oh, I feel safe with my partner here, we're just sleeping together. The flight attendant's like, ma'am? Yeah, no, you gotta wait till everyone's going to sleep,
Starting point is 00:52:42 you know what I mean? So yeah, you gotta, it's setting the the mood. Everyone's like note to self, try to find Christina Aguilera on a flight at some point in life and sit next to her. Oh my god, that's iconic. Follow these instructions. I love how open you are just about all this because again, I think something I've tried to do in my show and I love that you are doing is talking about this. It should not be shameful. We should not be embarrassed. We're celebrating the fact that we've been repressed
Starting point is 00:53:10 for so many fucking years to even enjoy ourselves, to even acknowledge the lower half of our body and what's going on down there. And I think it's important for women like us to sit here and casually talk about something because I know how many women are at home being like, if Christina Aguilera can talk and she's casually coming out being like, this is this.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Like it just is, it's an exciting new era, I feel like for women. And it's like, we get to own our shit and be like, fuck you. If you want to call us a slut or whore or whatever, we don't care. Cause we're not, we're just enjoying ourselves and doing what we should be doing, which is celebrating our bodies and doing the same thing that men have done forever.
Starting point is 00:53:48 It's true. It's really really true. I think because of generations of like not knowing how to talk about it being shamed for it. It being like you know something that's very you know celebrated from a male's point of view and objectified that we don't know where we stand with it, but now more than ever I feel like this generation is like having none of it. And we wanna talk about it, we wanna engage, we wanna be educated about it, we wanna know what's good for it, and we should, now's the time for that. And making sure, that's why, it's like music and lyrics,
Starting point is 00:54:20 I had a song called Sex for Breakfast on one of my albums, we've never been shy about things, but this is literally, you know, just the next progression for me. And in passing something down to my daughter that she can enjoy and understand, like this is nothing to be ashamed of. This is healthy, natural, put good things on it,
Starting point is 00:54:41 you know, vitamins for there. Vitamins for there. Okay, talk to me about Playground a little bit, Put good things on it, you know, vitamin vitamins for their vitamins for their okay Talk to me about playground a little bit because why did you decide to be a part of this? Well, I think the authenticity behind what it means to me being always in the forefront either defending you know or celebrating or opening conversations and doors for women to be able to feel safe enough to talk about their sexuality and what that means for them. Because again, everybody is so different
Starting point is 00:55:11 and there's no shame in the game. I just wanna really just now at this point in my life, being a mother who has a daughter who's developing her own relationship with her body and asking me when she sees that time of the month for me, what's a tampon, what does it do? How am I gonna approach these conversations? And in making her make sure that she feels
Starting point is 00:55:35 she's taking care of herself so that she can also engage with a future healthy relationship that's sex positive. Sex is very important. I love the product, playground, it's all safe, it's all natural and it just, you know, feels good, you know, we've explored with this. You know, safe for you. And it's so pretty, it fits in like the palm of your,
Starting point is 00:55:59 I love it because you can put it on your nightstand. It's like your bedside best friend is what I like to call her. And this is a product that's literally good for you and good for your vagina. And like, why aren't we paying more attention to that for ourselves? And I love that you're saying like, why can't we just walk into stores and be like,
Starting point is 00:56:16 I'm gonna buy this for my vagina, I'm gonna buy this for my armpits. Like it should feel like a whole wellness check that I don't think also women feel like lube specifically has had such a negative connotation because, oh, you're so dry. And then a man is like, oh, are you not turned on? And it's like, no, you idiot.
Starting point is 00:56:35 That has actually nothing to do with you. Nothing, like what a concept. It has nothing to do with you. So I feel like there's still this shame around like pulling out lube and all I can ever say is like if you aren't using lube you're not having the best sex you could be having. Point blank. Point blank. Sex is 10 times better with lube. That's a fact. A thousand percent and it's like we wouldn't think of like doing things to our face like we
Starting point is 00:57:01 moisturize. There's women that do, we do 10 step beauty routines and things, we wouldn't think of like going through a drug store and not hitting that section, not doing something moisturizing for our hair. Like this is the epicenter of power. Like we need to be nurturing and taking care of and celebrating this very important part. It literally, yeah, it's the star of the show.
Starting point is 00:57:24 So we literally need to be giving, nurture, tender love and care to it. And also it should be explored and what better to help do this than sometimes it's a little, you know. Get along with something down there. Feels good, yeah. Last question.
Starting point is 00:57:40 In a- Ooh, last. Last. Overall, ready? No, wait. In a 2018 billboard interview you told the journalist to write great things about you do you have any great things about yourself that you want to share with the world that you feel like maybe people don't know about you or misunderstand about you that you're like you know what listen to this yeah i grew up at a time again where there was a lot of
Starting point is 00:58:08 negativity that was just always trying to be poked. And I'm also, you know, I have no time for negativity. And it's like, I've been in the business long enough to know, I just want none of it anymore to be a part of the headline. And it's something that as a grown woman, you can have more control over.
Starting point is 00:58:37 But I don't like getting poked under the table, because then the claws come out. I don't like getting poked under the table because then the claws come out. You know, we're in an elevated time in all of our lives where we are more open and talking to each other and I'm just, I want peaceful energy, peaceful vibes. Like I don't need to be talking about things that happened you know, decades ago. Like let's grow up, let's embrace.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Now more than ever is the time for that. And so I think, yeah, just don't poke the bear anymore. Don't poke, don't poke me under the table because I'm still not gonna be baited anymore. It happened for a long time too. This happened even after I had my babies. It's like a lot of people, because they need some attention too.
Starting point is 00:59:34 They're like, I'll get poked under the table and be like, it's one of those passive, what do you call these people that are just passive aggressive? They'll poke you at the table where no one's looking and then be like, I don't know why she's so upset. I don't know, she's crazy. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:46 And you're like, just leave me alone. Manipulative, because yeah, don't poke me too much. Let's not get it twisted though, I'm sensitive and all that but I'm a tough cookie. At the end of the day, I truly don't give a fuck. You know what I mean? I just really don't and this is why. I just don't have time for the petty bullshit
Starting point is 01:00:04 or just sometimes the celebrity status stuff you know, this is why, like, I just don't have time for the petty bullshit or, you know, just, you know, sometimes, you know, the celebrity status stuff is just like, I just, I wanna live a real life and a loving life, you know? And I just, I want good things around. My energy space is so important to preserve that. And for my children, you know? No, I appreciate you explaining that
Starting point is 01:00:24 because it's also like, I get what you're saying. It's like, I'm trying to be over here living my life. Yeah. Stop trying to have me come back into the bullshit that I was in for so long. Decades, decades. Grown women shit now. Truly, truly.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Kids involved, examples. Christina, I honestly cannot thank you enough for coming on. I know you don't do this often. And like getting to know you truly, I respected you before, but like naturally when you get to know someone, the respect just grows
Starting point is 01:00:55 and you're such a strong inspirational human being. And I just, I am so happy I got to sit with you. Thank you so much. I love you. Thank you. I love you. Thank you. I love you so much.

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