Call Her Daddy - Devon and Sydney Carlson: How a Guy Came Between Us (Summer Series)

Episode Date: September 7, 2022

This week, Devon and Sydney Carlson join Father Cooper. They’re sisters, best friends and business partners. Devon and Sydney recount how a bathroom run-in with Miley Cyrus led to the overnight development of their company, Wildflower. The sisters spill all of their secrets while playing a game of “Who is More Likely to ...” Which Carlson sister is more likely to get kicked out of the club and who will be texting their ex once they get drunk? Which sister gives better head? Devon and Sydney do not hold back while discussing their dating lives. Devon reveals the extreme lengths she went to in order to stalk her ex on social media and how she struggled being single after a long term relationship ended. Sydney opens up about her ex’s drug addiction, the effect it had on her mentaly and physically, and how it ultimately led her to push away from family and friends.

I like want to take off my shoes and like get cozy now. Do it, do it, do it. There's water behind you if you need it. I kind of think I want a drink. I'm suddenly nervous. Should we go get a drink? Yeah. Okay, let's go. Oh, we're like, you guys are so good.

What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper. Let me hear you guys. Give me like a little like... How's that? Hey, Alex. Hi, Alex. Wait, maybe bring yours down so I want to see your face a little.

Take off your top. Don't need to take it off. Sydney, maybe bring that closer to your mouth. Is this good? I don't know why you're singing, but I love it. I actually don't want you to sing at all. Devin and Zippy Carlson, welcome to Call Her Daddy. There's like no crowd.

Let's start off with you guys are the first official sisters I have ever had on Call Her Daddy. Really? Or I guess like people related even. We clap a lot. Carlson clap. My dad calls it the Carlson clap because we clap all the time. I think we got it from them.

Yeah. Anytime. My parents will always start a clap and it just has gone down to us. When we were little, like anything, the smallest things we did, they'd be like,

good job girls. Even now, we like walk in their house and they're like. I love it because you guys keep clapping at me and I'm like, yes! I'm like, welcome to Call Her Daddy house and they're like i love it because you guys keep clapping at me and i'm like yes i'm like welcome to color i'm like yeah okay you just had a birthday i just happy belated birthday you went to vegas i went to vegas tell me what was the most like memorable

moment in vegas what happened what did you do um well the entire trip was like kind of a surprise yeah she didn't know a few months ago we were all sitting in my bedroom and i was like what are we gonna do for my birthday like we gotta make it big and because it was like my first whatever first single birthday yeah in a while okay we can say it we can say it okay okay first single birthday in a while okay we can say it we can say it okay okay for a single birthday while you were gonna do it you gotta do it big you could do it big and i was like katie perry obviously yeah we have to see that's what like started the idea of going yeah so then we were looking up the dates and then she happened to be playing and so we're like fuck it and then i started getting closer and they're like what do you want to do and i was like can part of my gift

just be that i don't plan it like can you can you guys just plan it? So everything was kind of a highlight. But I feel like one of my favorite parts was when we were all at the lobby bar. And everyone kept coming down and, like, showing off their outfits. And we'd be like, woo! It was so cute. Because we didn't stay in the same room. We all stayed in separate rooms. So it kind of felt like camp.

And then everyone, we would, like, group chat. It was summer camp. We're meeting at the lobby. And then everyone would come down. It was like a fashion show, seeing everyone's, like, outfits. I don't know we would, like, group chat. It was summer camp. We're meeting at the lobby. And then everyone would come down. It was, like, a fashion show seeing everyone's, like, outfits. I don't know. Okay, so you were there?

Yes. Do you usually get invited to each other's shit? Yeah. In the past few years. Yeah. There was, like, a... Well, because we were just, like,

sisters for a really long time. Like, just related. I feel like in high school. When did you become friends walk me through the the high school we were definitely like sisters still like friends we never have really fought okay i don't think we've ever had a real fight every fight has been about clothes like screaming crying everything in unison yeah and about clothes why are you fighting over clothes because like you borrowed that without asking yeah my first job i spent all of my money on mainly like gas and clothes got it yeah and

i would guess work hours for like little money and then i go to the urban outfitter sales section buy one thing and then go to wear it and it's gone and i'm like and i'm like i worked so hard to buy this fucking shirt and she's wearing it without asking right and then there to wear it and it's gone and i'm like and i'm like i worked so hard to buy this fucking shirt and she's wearing it without asking right and then there was like the trade it's like okay well if you borrowed that without asking i get to wear this like you've never worn two things that you've never worn but you can't post photo on it yeah are you guys in the same friend group yeah we're like we hang out every day basically yeah like our friend group is the same we're like a friend it was like sydney went through a like a gnarly relationship and then got out of it and i feel

like we weren't close at all during that relationship and it really made me be like oh my gosh okay once she's out of this like i can't show me like what i i almost lost my sister i felt like as a like in my life and i was like i'm never letting this happen again she is like i'm not i'm like forcing her to be my friend basically and then after the relationship yeah we became really close yeah did you feel that too yeah yeah i mean it was a fact friends are amazing yeah but like friends are friends like they're not your blood the fact you guys are friends and your blood yeah I think we forget sometimes and our friends sometimes are like I always forget you guys are like sisters like we

hang out with like sisters like it doesn't feel like but it's we'll also do like our bickering fights about like just sister and our friends will be like sister fight but it'll last like five minutes and then we'll be like sister fight but it'll last like five minutes and then we'll be like should we go get dinner I want to get an idea of your personalities, but described by the other person. Devin, you go first. Describe Sydney's personality and how like friends view her. And like, who is she in the friend group?

And like, what is her personality? Give me the fucking tea. Yeah. Sydney's like the funny, the funny one. She's like the funniest one out of all of our friends. Like Sydney can never be serious for more than like five seconds. She's perfect. And she's also fun.

I don't know. She's not silly or goofy. She's just like dry, funny, serious. Okay, dry humor and monotone is the fucking funniest thing. That's what she is. When you're like, what did you just say? What did you just say? You're like, absolutely.

Okay, that I feel like we already got to know you a little better better yeah now do it for devon devon's not the quiet one she can be put in a room with complete strangers and walk out with 10 friends 10 new numbers going lunch plans like she we're no that's sydney no No. We are. Okay. But that's when I'm drunk and I give people my number. That's completely different. Like alcohol was involved. Like she can do this just like naturally. That's where we're like very different. Like she's like social butterfly can like talk to anyone, be friends with anyone.

And it's honestly really, it's like a talent of hers. And you're like the first one. If you're walking the door, you're talking first. And then she's following you with like hilarious jokes. Oh, the joke was always like, whenever people will get to meet us, they'd always be like, Sydney's really the funny one. Like you think that like Devin's the funny one, but then you get to know they're like Sydney's the funny one.

And are you okay with that? It's true. I can't really be mad. Like this is reality. I have to just appreciate it we accept it we work perfectly together your sisters your best friends and your business partners your company wildflower creates the best phone cases i'm pretty sure when we were drunk at olivia o'brien's music video or somewhere you guys like light like you lightly started telling me this first time we met I think it was we were like upstairs yes oh my god it came over before

you came over to oh my god yes and you broke the latex outfit oh my god I did yeah and it was like so awkward because I didn't know anyone I was like hi girls and it was like so nice you were like show us your vagina let's get out of the way let's go yes yes I remember that and we were like we love her and then we got drunk at the music video while olivia's like crushing it in the corner we're like she's working we're just gonna get hammered right and you guys started to tell me the story of how it all came to be tell us the story for the daddy gang that doesn't know well it happened 10 years ago now we just celebrated our 10 year anniversary congratulations that's thank you thank you it's crazy holy shit very crazy um my i really wanted a phone case for my birthday and there was like

iphones had just come out so there wasn't really cute accessory phone cases it was just kind of like the solid color protective ones like it wasn't like thought of an accessory. So this didn't exist. The Otter Box or whatever. Yeah, it was just like just to cover your phone. And our mom has always been very creative and crafty. She was making like the shorts with like the studs on them and putting like sewing fabric on them. Like she's always just been very like DIY. Used to be an art teacher.

She was an art teacher. She just like loves doing stuff like that. So she thought to get a clear phone case put fabric in it and stud the outside of it like herself and so she made a few of them and gave them to me and Devin we went to school and our friends were like what is that we want that so she made them for our friends and so like our friend group had them at school and people were like seeing them and we would go the mall and people would stop us and be like, where did you get that phone case? Like random people all the time.

So the first day my mom actually carried extras in her car because people would stop us that often. She would have been like, well, I have some if you want to buy them off of us. There was no company or anything. We literally were just like. And it wasn't an idea to make it a company at all. We just were like, oh, we'll tell our mom what type of fabric to buy and like what stud patterns to do we literally didn't there was no vision of growing it or having a company that was yeah no one's plan yeah so then one day she was keeping him on her and we went out to dinner the four of us the four of us family and we got up to use the bathroom and we were waiting in line and Miley

Cyrus walked out of the bathroom stall and this was like Miley's bun era yeah like and I was the biggest Hannah Montana fan like me too girls at school knew me as the girl who was obsessed with Hannah Montana yeah like yeah my obsession obsessed she walked out and I was like holy fuck like or like wait and I was like this is my in I have to say something and i was like holy fuck like they're like wait and i was like this is my in i have to say something and i was like i know it's really annoying but do you mind if we take a photo together and so then we took a picture together and i took it with the phone that had the phone case on it and miley was like that phone case is so cute where's it from and we were like our mom made it um she was like does she have a company we were like no and

she said is your mom here we were like yeah she's like can i go meet her and we were like sure didn't even go pee walk out of the bathroom and we're like walking back to our table me dev and miley and our parents are like what are they doing like what's there was like a girl we went to school with tweeting like yeah she's like shit like what is going on like i see the carlson we're like we're like walking out of the bathroom and we she miley taps our mom on the shoulder and was like did you make these phone cases like they're so cute and we were like yeah and she was like you guys should start a business like this is really cool this is really cool idea you guys should like start a business and my dad looked at her my dad was a graphic designer for years

and so he looked at Miley and said we'll have a website in the morning yeah and we were like yeah we will and in the midst she got my twitter handle and so she ended up we gave her all the cases off our phones too and the ones in the car yeah we were like take everything what do you want you could have everything she went back to her table yeah took a photo of them tweetedweeted it Tagged me in her tweet Everyone started And this was like 2012 Twitter

Like no one It was unheard of To get mentioned By like Anyone Like a celebrity Or anything like that And so

And all of our phones Had died So we didn't even know And we're driving home Like freaking out Waiting to get a phone charger All of us plug our phones in And we're like

Oh my god And all the phones like and everyone from school is texting texting us like what's this tweet my dad stays up all night that night i mean when miley cyrus fucking looks at you it is like you need to have a company and your dad's like there will be we'll have it in the morning so when we started tweeting like responding to people like wildflowercases.com. We had no inventory. We had nothing. We ended up selling our house and that funded all of Wildflower. And we moved into our grandma and grandpa's house.

And we still ran all of Wildflower for the first five years inside of our house. And I did all of the, yeah, i quit my job first i did our mom quit her job and then our dad when he did we were like okay this is like real this is real so we like i tried to go to college i really was like kind of embarrassed about like it was weird because no one was starting companies like it was me and syd of like Sydney more so because she was like a freshman and it was taking time away from hanging out with her friends it was like weird it was weird to start a business so it wasn't like as supported as it is now so yeah I guess I could kind of see that because they're like what are you doing and like it was like no one

it was very like you're not going to college and we're like I had one friend in high school throughout all of this because they thought it was different and weird and like it it wasn't the normal it was a lot of just like making fun like like oh yeah like whatever we would I like posting on Instagram I think people that are now beginning the TikTok phase of like feeling embarrassed that if like kids find their TikTok right in school because people like oh it's the TikTok phase of like feeling embarrassed that if like kids find their TikTok in school because people are like, oh, it's embarrassing. And it's like, no, it's not. Why is it embarrassing? Have you guys ever talked to Miley about that like whole blow up and moment? I did recent, not like recently, but beginning of this year, one of our friends was working with her and I got the opportunity to like meet her and hang out with

her we actually saw her a lot yeah she's really great and really cool and i just kept being like i owe so much to you like you don't understand it's really fucking cool to see how much you guys have grown and also how close you guys are so it hasn't broken up the family no if anything it was like our family depends on this so if not everyone's not holding up their part of the bargain, like then we're not going to have a roof over our heads. So it was like literally we had to work. I mean, I feel like now we're at a point where we've been able, we're lucky enough to build a team that we like we genuinely trust and have been able to delegate enough stuff out.

So now it's like I feel like I'm actually starting to live my college years since I like worked through my real college yeah but I mean it's just so like endlessly happy and grateful and like just it's still very surreal it's crazy girls we're gonna talk about your dating lives take your sip of alcohol here we go i'm gonna go back and forth between both of you okay i'm gonna give you each the love and the attention that you deserve okay devon we're starting with you okay are you currently dating anyone um yes how serious is it has he met your family tell us well there's like blushing she's blushing he she doesn't know what to say take your time he's really he's like that wasn't awesome he's just

just share where you're comfortable like fun stuff well we so obviously i was in a relationship for a very long time a public relationship and um we had like the most mutual breakup ever and we still are totally chill and friends and i and supportive of each other and whatever and um but then i was like holy fuck i'm single for the first time in my entire life well adult life basically and uh i just went on a wild journey that I feel like lasted almost a year-ish. And so the guy I'm currently with was a part of that early on and has just kind of been with me back and forth through that. But now we're exclusively seeing each other, and he has made it through my craziest moments and still likes me for

whatever reason. Carlson Cobb. He gets the club. Cobb's all around. Yeah. Thank you for sharing. Can you give us a little bit of an explanation when you're talking about like a wild year? Just just a little bit of what you're talking about. I was just like zero fucks like I'll go on a date with anyone right now like just really throwing myself out there and making up for lost time and having so much fun good for you I kept being like nervous that no one like no one was gonna like like me or hit on I I was so insecure about it I get it when you're in a long-term relationship, first, it's a little shocking to end that,

whether it was a good breakup, bad breakup. It's like, I'm single. What does it even mean? How do I even act? What the fuck do I do? And so you just went a little wild, and you had a fucking great year. Yeah.

I just kept being scared that people were thinking I was being crazy. But in my head, I'm like, I have never done this. There's no way that I'm being crazy. Did you think she was being crazy? Yes. No, I thought she was more crazy at the end of your relationship than out of it. So you were happy she was out of it?

Yeah. It was honestly the best months ever. I was like, this is the most fun we've ever had. And it kind of was a little bit of the same feeling that, like, she had when I was in a relationship, but not as intense at all. But it was just, like, wow, we're really, like, just free and hanging. And, like, our friend group was just, like,

it was just so, like, free. Right. Do you think you're more of a relationship girl? I think for being single, yeah. From, like, the moments that I was single, I just kept finding myself like in real like like a situation are you single i'm single are you more relationship girl or single girl um well i don't know because like she's a the type of relationship girl where she will get in

multiple relationships very easily i might be a relationship type of person but where she will get in multiple relationships very easily. I might be a relationship type of person, but I don't get into them very often at all. Got it. Even in like high school, she had a different boyfriend every month. I think I had one, maybe all four years. Like I just, it takes me a lot to get to that point to actually date someone. Everyone's got their own thing. Like I have friends like both. And that works that works for her totally she's just so harsh and it's like but the thing is the things that she says aren't like not true like she'll she would bring up things about like a guy i was seeing and i was like like i was a guy was dropping me off at a hotel and she was like i thought it was your or she goes up to him and goes i thought you were her uber driver and i was like hey i was like oh i thought you were

the uber i literally said then that afterwards i was like oh my god i called him the uber driver was he like mortified he needed it he needed to be humbled okay so you will call out shit about the guy she's seeing yeah she will literally be sitting on my couch and being like make me a latte oh and he did this guy she was like the other one i was like i want a smoothie and he made me a smoothie and he put chocolate chips in it why do you do that just like test the like boundaries i just like it's very entertaining for me to watch all of this happen so it's just like i'm like watching tv and like can be a part of it how does it make you feel when she's doing this i just love when my sister interacts with any guy that i've seen at

all because i feel like it takes a lot for her to be herself around people okay right and that's why i like the new guy that i've that i'm with the fact that she can like be her funny self around him like means more to me than like almost anything but i just think i care a lot what my friends think like if my friends don't like someone I'm pretty like when it comes to guys I'm like yeah they're done then it's not yeah it's not happening have you gone on any dates recently I have been on one date my whole life are you in stars like what she said that she was like I don't go on dates like I'll see you at like hide or like I'll see you at like oh fuck stars, I'll see you at like, fuck Stas. And she's like,

or they come to my house. Yeah. Why do you think you're just like not dating? I, how do you meet people? I guess, I guess I, Stas' house. I guess I,

I don't, I don't know. I just, I have never been interested in that type of dating. Like going on dates with new people. Everyone that I have gotten into a relationship with I have been friends with and become really close with and then I'm like oh my god we have feelings we're dating got it I'm just not even that it's like hard or uncomfortable I just don't care to I'm not that type of dater I guess she went on one

date and she was like group chatting us like who's gonna come meet up with us now like because I was like instantly not into it and I knew I wasn't into it I just I guess that also I rarely find people that I feel like I could date seriously I don't know there's some people that I'm like okay I there's something about this person that I could like but But that happens very rarely. I think that's fair. Yeah. Okay, how would you each describe each other's type?

Oh, I'm curious what you will say. Sydney likes, like, well, they have to be funny. Okay. Funnier than you? Sydney has to find them funny. Okay, fair. Which okay which is like unique sense of humor um she kind of likes when they're like i don't want to like offend anyone go for it what are you gonna say but she likes like

what's the nicest way to put it i don't know sydney likes interesting looking people like they have to be unique looking there's something like almost off about them or their style is very like weird like the normal person would be like they're weird that's sydney's type and what do you say back to that i would agree that's a funny way to describe it how would you describe it i just like i'm really attracted to men who are like very comfortable in themselves and who they are and like don't just give off that vibe like they don't care what other people think of them and they will wear whatever they want look however they want and they're just like confident in that and who they

are I think it makes me very comfortable around them and be like I could totally be myself say whatever I want wear whatever I want and they would be like that's cool give me Devin's type honestly you're kind of all over the place with the types is it musicians all through usually musicians it's not my fault okay what like it can be a musician okay and that ranges in all areas but as long as they're a musician i think she's has some sort of attraction is it because they sing to you no i like i find I just find like when Sydney said like when someone's so themselves like that to me is so attractive like when they just don't like they aren't trying to impress anyone it and I think that they're cool totally like I just think that

that's yeah or I find them interesting but like the musician part I think dating wise my lifestyle just works well with someone who's like like our schedules usually work better when it's like we're constantly both traveling you're a backstage bitch that's fucking backstage lifestyle well we were dancers we like music but it's just funny because half the time I'm literally like, I like the music that I like. It's never really like the guys that I. Right. You kind of talked about how you had an intense relationship that you guys had a little like not falling out, but you just kind of press pause in your relationship. Devin, how did you approach handling when you didn't like who Sydney was dating?

We just did not talk about it. But I knew. It was very, but it was more so because my boyfriend and her boyfriend weren't, like, didn't really mesh. And he was, like, they didn't ever want to be in the same place. So not because anything had happened. It was more just, like no no communication was the communication so it was just constantly avoiding each other and then I was like obviously

I have to be loyal to the person that I was with and she felt the same so then we were just kind of like coexisting and working together so when you guys would work would you just like not talk I mean we were so busy there was not really any talking but we wouldn't like customer service and she was packing and shipping every order and so it was like literally just hours of me responding or answering phone calls and sydney just like but we wouldn't hang out outside of that and did your parents know what was going on yeah yeah they weren't too fond of him either i don't think anybody was but i also think everyone has to have a relationship like that. It was like such an insane experience, but I'm so glad it happened. Like I forever, I'm like so grateful of that

relationship. And I also was like, I think I met him when I was like 18, 19, and it lasted until I was like 22. So it was like a lot of, I was young, and that was kind of my first like big, intense relationship. And it just took everything out of me, and I had never been in something that intense. And I mean, I talk about it. It's not like something I hide at all, but he was a drug addict, and that was something that kind of developed over the years, and also something that I didn't know much about. Being so young, I didn't know what anything was, or, like, what was bad, what wasn't, and also something that I didn't want to talk to my family about, or my friends about, you know, how do you, like, tell your friends and family

that that's what you're dealing with and going through so like that kind of ate at me inside and took a lot of like everything out of me that just consumed me like I bleached my hair classic when you're in like a terrible relationship and like my hair was falling out I had like an eating disorder I stopped talking to a lot of my friends my family like talking and I just like consumed it all in myself yeah because it was so like I was trying to help him and be there for him but also like he wasn't giving that to me it was like the lowest lows I've ever had but also when it was great it felt like amazing so like I held on to those moments and it was just a lot but you know our parents have been together since they went to prom together in high school like they were each other's first

boyfriend and girlfriend and they've they're still together they're like so growing up that was like my view of what love is like you find that one and you do anything to make it work which is amazing and I'm so glad we have that and that they have that but also getting into a relationship Like you find that one and you do anything to make it work, which is amazing. And I'm so glad we have that and that they have that. But also getting into a relationship like that, I'm like, I will fight for this. I will do anything to keep it, you know, no matter how much it hurts or whatever. Like this is what love is. And I had to learn that's not the truth.

You know, when it hurts you that bad, that's when you don't, you know, you say this isn't right. I thank you for sharing that because I had something similar in high school that was like my first love and I really think a lot of people will relate to like the good is like in moments because it's so good because you're contrasting the awfulness of those moments and so you're like holding on to the good and I think that like I mean everyone knows once you're out of it and you're like oh I did distance myself from my friends and family you can look back but when you're fucking in it it's literally you're just trying you're blinded you're like I had no idea and it honestly took a few years out of that to just get back to like myself I like I didn't even think about dating or like seeing other people I was just like okay I need to get back to like myself and like my friends and my family and like focus on myself.

And after that, like that took a few years, I'm like currently the best I've ever been. And like so content being alone, almost too content where I'm like, I would rather stay home than go out at this point. But I'm'm I probably could be in a relationship if I wanted to right now but I'm very content now knowing have you guys had conversations about like fuck we can never let this happen to each other again and like lose each other in those moments yeah I was pretty like when she when I she called me and I was at breakfast with my boyfriend and she was like he cheated on me we just broke up and i dropped everything didn't even finish my meal and just immediately drove home she's like it's happening called i literally was like oh my god it's

happening everyone's like i know and so i called um our childhood best friend who basically was like sydney's second older sister i was like they broke up she's like i'm on my way so we all literally i called everyone and we all got there as fast as we could and then my best friend nicole and i took sydney to disneyland the next day and we kept being like because the friends that she had had at that time that she was like closest with i felt like didn't ever like tell her like get the fuck out of there like a lot of the friends that wanted she it was like she didn't want to hear what we were saying necessarily and i was like we gotta show her what it's like to like be treated right have really good friends and healthy relationships

and so i was like welcoming syd Sydney in with open arms to anything we were doing. I was like always inviting my sister, even if she didn't come 20 times in a row. I was like, you're invited, you're invited, you're invited, you're invited until she like finally started coming and having fun and then getting comfortable. And then, um, she just like blossomed into the Sydney that we've known all along. How did you find out he cheated? The girl, well, the last time. Oh.

The girl. We're talking multiple times. Which time? The girl DM'd me. And it was classic. He was. Classic. He was also a musician, but was on tour and it happened somewhere.

And she like sent me photos in his shirt and was like that feeling when you find out and you're like I don't even know what to do with myself right now oh my god my stomach I like all my anxiety everything goes to my stomach which is why I think it made me like just not eat because that's immediately what I feel is in my stomach and I was like so lost because I didn't have close friends I barely talked to my family I felt like my world was like oh my god this can't end like I have nothing thank god thank god I'm like thank you for cheating on me that was like the best thing you've ever done in the moment the shit that sucks then you look back and you're like thank fucking god yeah I am because if it wasn't that I may have still been in that shit and look

where you are fucking now. Do you guys have fake accounts? Yeah, I have like 10 accounts. course i have like i'm like how many do i have i have like this stalker account you have your finsta you have your stalker of course oh i am psycho wait tell me i love it oh she actually is i i love that like i love you even more now because she's like yeah she's like well no I when my ex-boyfriend used to go on tour when we got back because we dated we broke up then we got back together and that was like the seven year yeah yeah I in the beginning was a fucking maniac I don't know how he put up

with me I love it I would create I would go on and I would like look up their tour or i had the tour manager like he forwarded me their tour schedule and so i would go to every venue's instagram page and like watch every story of everyone that was there and then look at like the girl everyone's profile that was there tagged photos everything i actually really respect you for admitting it because i feel like there's no shame in stalking like who gives a fuck it's too fucking easy everyone does it everyone say you don't you're lying I know like even this guy that I had gone on a few dates with he like dm me and it was the first time that I had gone and met up with someone over dm that I didn't previously know but like he knew people that I knew and whatever and so I was like okay

and we hung out and he's like so we're just gonna act like we haven't like completely I love that I was like you're like attractive you're like suddenly it was like he was bringing up things and I was bringing up things and then I was like suddenly I'm 20 times more comfortable with you yeah yeah it feels like I know you already we were arguing by the end of the date and I was just like whatever well because it's also like let's just keep it real i know who your ex-girlfriend is all right and this is our first date yeah and i know who she is where she where she works like it's everything i'd like to just get it i agree let's just get it out yeah girls we're about to play a game this is we're like okay go under your seats you have these

two little cards basically we're to play which sister do not. I was feeling under the chair. Okay. So we're playing which sister is more likely to. And so don't show each other. But like basically I'm going to ask and you'll hold up whichever, whichever sister is more likely to. Okay.

Which sister is more likely to be the favorite child? Wait, why? No shame. Honestly, Sydney gets away with everything. I always got in trouble for it. She always does that. She's done 50 times crazier things, but I always get the blame. Youngest child.

Youngest child. I think that's just the youngest thing. Which sister is more likely to take something from the other sister's closet without asking? This is a great moment. You're both taking accountability. Well, because I just, I want to avoid. The thing is, I'm like, if I ask, it's going to start drama before the night goes out or whatever. I would rather postpone the drama

and deal with it later so i can just feel good wear the top that i want to wear and then i think i could steal it and get away with it i feel like you would sneaky little ask no no maybe she hasn't i haven't noticed you don't know shit okay which sister is more likely to post drunk on instagram it used to be me but i feel like it's still you what do you drunkenly post you just not give a fuck you're like post like she'll just post she just does i'll just think something's so funny and be like yeah this is my bit for and then the next morning i'm like what are you doing yeah but then i'm like it's too late you can't yeah right because then they know you regret it and then you can't delete it just leave it which sister is more likely to give better head

i love that i love that okay great you guys great head game which sister is more likely to fuck on the first date and he's like like I don't go on dates remember on the first hangout like that doesn't but guess she goes on more dates more okay there you go there you go I have never fucked on the first date. I love that for you, Cindy. Get it in and get it out, okay? Goodbye. I don't go on dates, okay?

Which sister is more likely to, if they were ever to, go on a reality show? Do you want to go on one? Yes, she has been trying to get our family on a reality show since she was in high school. Actually, for like a year, we're talking to people about doing a reality show.

I would watch it. One viewer um get canceled after one season which sister is more likely to text their ex when drunk love that for you are you literally just staring at it and be like she won't even like tell anyone she'll do it and then be like and it'll just be like a random person my random choosing of the night i'll be like fuck out of her like and everyone's like devon where do you do it devon and she's like i'm like so proud yeah she's like also she doesn't get like scary it's like she will text her ex do whatever and then the next morning she'll be like that last night was so fun and i'm like what like how do you do that she doesn't get like any i love being it's admirable which sister is more likely to have a threesome

have you had a threesome she won't call it that but she won't call it that because there was there were four boom even better even i love that for you was it fun or was it awkward no it was great great and it was my friend was there okay i was like so it was totally fine it was fun okay good for you which sister is more likely to get kicked out of the club loki devon what the fuck are you doing in the club why are you crazy I'm really clumsy so I knock over a lot of drinks she'll spill things okay that's why that's why it wouldn't be because I'm like it would be because I've had two drinks and I like go like not trying to fight Vegas yeah

and we're I went with like some of my old dance friends and we kept knocking over the champagne and the guy picked up the bottle and he goes you're done and we were like not even just because she keeps knocking but i feel like you guys are so connected you'd be like um stas get me back in she'd be like security's coming tell him you're with us it's so good it's so good okay which one oh my god this is a sad one which sister is more likely to get cheated on we all know the answer to this i would never let that i would literally go if i if i found out they were with someone i'd be like i'm honestly the face of being cheated on i mean like you're over it yeah you're done you're not getting the glow up it gave me yeah you're you're gonna be fine i stand by it You're standing Okay which sister Is more likely To cheat

In a relationship Do not say that I honestly don't think Either of us would I don't think either of us would Loyal lovely girls Just so so lovely Okay yeah

No one's cheating here We're just getting Cheated on over here Yeah come on Okay which sister Is more likely to slide in And DM a celebrity I don't

I don't think Both No I've never DM'd anyone I have You wanna open your phone I literally have it Sydney's like oh really You've never DM'd anyone

No I've never gone out of my way To like DM someone that I don't like Whatever I think it's funny sometimes I haven't in a while Sydney does it all the time Takes a screenshot and sends

No I love that I do that to make her laugh I'll DMm someone funny and then unsend it okay which sister is more likely to be in an open relationship none i think i'm too i've literally had gone jealous yeah i've gone through moments where i'm like oh i could totally if i was like constantly told that i was like the one you're like i need a lot of reinforcement so if she's like not shit sure but i honestly i don't think that it'd be fair to like the other girls or whatever and yeah you don't have to give us this you're like the the reason it's not fair to other girls i'm gonna be the shit i'm the best i'm down for like friends with benefits where it's like, okay, you, I know that you're hooking

up with other people. But if we're dating, dating, I make you my boyfriend. I agree. Also because if I make someone my boyfriend, I don't want to be dating other people. That's not my intentions. So why would we ever do? Ever. I want to know both of you.

Sydney, you can go first. Okay. What is the toxic that you like attract and you're like, fuck, I hate it that I'm attracted. We all like the toxic. And then how are you toxic in a relationship? I think the toxic I'm attracted to, because this could also be someone who's non-toxic, but it mainly is, is big personalities.

People who are very much their own life their own ways big personalities I could get wrapped up in their life easily in a bad way interesting but it's like exciting and fun to do but like it's obviously bad because I'm like separated from my own life so that um I don't know how I'm toxic in relationships. Maybe because I like give too much of myself, like toxic and like bad way for myself. Oh my God. You're like an angel. You're like,

I am not. Cause I'm like, I already don't miss jealous over here. Just wait to get to me. But I hear what you're saying. You're like, Oh, okay.

Let me go. Okay. So, but I get what you're saying. You just kind of give yourself too much. You like yourself. Yeah. Okay. We're not not letting that happen but i'm not doing it anymore nope don't get any ideas yeah sydney was actually the best like most thoughtful like girlfriend ever like even for like i love shopping i'm really good shopping i'll give you the best like most

thoughtful gift but words sydney will write you a book oh and like make it so so embarrassing no it's cute i think we should normalize like cute shit for relationships like oh you're a right fuck up yeah i'm in love okay shut up please we're in love right okay what toxic are you attracting devon and how are you toxic i know we kind of heard about your fake account but i think the toxic that i'm attracted to is like someone who's like good with their words or like knows is witty yeah i think that people like that just know how to get what they want and i think that maybe I know how to get what I want. You can do it right back. I'll give it right back.

I get that. No, that's like a scary combo. We're just like matched to energy. So if you are giving me something, then I'm going to give it back. But like slightly more to the point of like, we're going to drive each other absolutely insane. Lastly, who has like a crazy fucking dating story whether it was a one-night stand whether it was a bad hookup gone wrong bad sex I have like a really like it should be a bad date but it ended up being a good day share it

share it we're here for it we love story time um I was in New York and it was the day after Valentine's Day and we had been like we had gone on a couple dates before but it was like only whenever I was like visiting and he had just gone into town and he was like okay I'll pick you up and we'll go out to dinner and then he texts me before and he's like would you want to see a movie and I was like no I'm fucking hungry like I want to eat and so he's like I said I'm pretty hungry and he was like okay well I'm not gonna get there for like an hour and it was like eight o'clock at this point and Sydney was in a room under me at our hotel. So I kept going through the staff stairs. And I went into her room.

And I was like, she's not going to be here for another hour. She's very fucking serious. I was like, I'm so hungry. She sits on my bed. So I was in such a pissy mood. And so then I stopped answering him. And then he called me. And he was like, I'm sorry.

I'm running even later than I thought. Like, I don't think I'm going to get there till like 930. Red flags. I was like, he's like, do you just want to go see a movie? And I was like, I'm so hungry. I was like, I don't understand. Like, I'm so hungry. Why?

I don't want to see your movie. So we're already arguing. And then I ended up hanging up. And he's like, what are you are you gonna do and I was like well I'm gonna eat like I'm if you don't want to come out here and I thought we were gonna go to dinner I've been waiting to eat right then I'm gonna go eat and he's like where are you going whatever he like told me uh gave me a recommendation of a good place to go and so I go there and he's like calling me and I was like decline decline decline

like whatever and he's like okay well i'm at the restaurant that we were gonna meet at and i was like okay well i'm not and he was like do you want me to pick you up and i was like obviously it's february in new york i'm not fucking walking right granted it was one block away Get in the car bitch I was like It takes longer to drive I was like You know where I am And so then he Obviously pulled around

Knew exactly where I was Came in Got me in the car And he's like I can't believe you just Made me drive a block I was like I can't believe you were

An hour and a half late To this date And so we ended up Going on this date And I was just like Zero fucks at this point He like parks We walk in We sit We start eating And I was just like zero fucks at this point. He like parks. We walk in.

We sit. We start eating. And we're just like roasting each other going on and on. Having so much fun. The bill comes. He's like. No. No.

Forgot his wallet. And I was like. He's the one I called a new driver. Are you fucking serious? And he starts dying laughing. And I just kept being like, I'm so excited to. Are you fucking serious? And he starts dying laughing. And I just kept being like, I'm so excited to see how you make this up for me. Because I'm like, I'm not going to let this go. So I pay for dinner.

And then he's like, OK, well, let me I'll drive you home back to your one block away. Thank you. And I'm like sitting here. I'm like, oh, my God. I'm such a princess. We go outside. His car is towed. No.

No. No. No. Gone. Gone. The car is gone. And we just started looking at each other. We were dying laughing.

And then. Did you give him a kiss and go home? You didn't even. Did you kiss him? Yeah. We slept together. What do you mean? He slept over. Devon we slept together what do you mean what do you mean like what are you talking about we fully fucked i gave the best sex of his life and i went and got his car and i paid for the show in the morning i bought his car back when a man does that he's like oh go fuck yourself like the fact that i fucked him obviously

i was like okay this is what dating is yeah that's actually such a fact that you're like and i fucked him obviously i was like okay this is what dating is yeah that's actually such a good story you're right like the ups and downs the amount of times i can look back in my 20s even my teens of the time that you're trying to play it off cool like but you're waiting and you're waiting i was but it was honestly it was we had such a fun time and in the morning he like bought me like a huge bouquet of flowers it was beautiful and then he dropped me off and then he met my sister and she roasted him and that's what you said i thought you were the uber driver deserved wait why what kind of car did you drive it looks like like the black lincoln like yeah yeah town car like it looks like an uber car can i get in

next you know i'm going why is it i was at her out of the front seat like i was like why she's the front seat of the uber uber dude i love it i also love how you like gross kind of the guys that kevin is yeah because it puts them in their fucking they deserve they're like great i don't think i've ever dated like a not great guy like i i don't really have any bad things to say about anyone that i've like do you agree with that statement uh yeah i don't think they're bad guys at all they're just a little cringy sometimes and you point it out yes that's what i'm like guys we love i love you guys thank you for coming on color daddy Outro Music