Call Her Daddy - Devon and Sydney Carlson: Sisters, Situationships, & Starting a Business (FBF)

Episode Date: August 14, 2026

This episode, Devon and Sydney Carlson join Father Cooper. They’re sisters, best friends and business partners. Devon and Sydney recount how a bathroom run-in with Miley Cyrus led to the overnight development of their company, Wildflower. The sisters spill all of their secrets while playing a game of “Who is More Likely to ...” Which Carlson sister is more likely to get kicked out of the club and who will be texting their ex once they get drunk? Which sister gives better head? Devon and Sydney do not hold back while discussing their dating lives. Devon reveals the extreme lengths she went to in order to stalk her ex on social media and how she struggled being single after a long term relationship ended. Sydney opens up about her ex’s drug addiction, the effect it had on her mentally and physically, and how it ultimately led her to push away from family and friends. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

I would like want to take off my shoes and like get cozy now. Do it, do it, do it, do it. There's water behind you if you need it. I mean, it's like, I kind of think I want to drink. I'm suddenly nervous. Should we go get a drink? Yeah. Okay, man.

Okay, let's go. Okay. Oh, we're like, you guys. I'm sorry, look. What is up, Daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper with call on my daddy, daddy, daddy. Give me like a little like, ah. Oh, how's that?

Hey. See that. Hi, Alex. Alex. Oh, wait, maybe bring yours down because I want to see your face a little. Take off your top. Denise, take it all.

Okay, Sydney, you'll bring that closer to your mouth. Is this good? I don't know why you're singing, but I love it. I actually don't want you to sing at all. Devin and Cindy Carlson, welcome to call her daddy. Woo! There's like no crowd. Let's start off with,

you guys are the first official sisters. ever had on Caller Daddy. Really? Or it's like people related even. We clap a lot. Carlson clap. My dad calls it the Carlson clap because we clap all the time.

I think we got it from them. Anytime. My parents will always start a clap and it just has gone down to us. When we were little like anything, the smallest things we did. They were like, chop girls.

Even now we like walk in their house and they're like, I love it because you guys keep clapping at me and I'm like, yes. I'm like welcome to color dad. I'm like, Okay, you just had a birthday. Happy belated birthday.

You went to Vegas. I went to Vegas. Tell me what was the most memorable moment in Vegas. What happened? What did you do? Well, the entire trip was like kind of a surprise. Yeah, she didn't know. A few months ago, we were all sitting in my bedroom and I was like, what are we going to do for my birthday?

Like, we got to make it big. And because it was like my first, whatever. for single birthday in a while. Okay, we can say it. We can say it. Okay, okay. For a single birthday in a while, you were going to do it. You got to do it big.

You could do it big. And I was like, Katie Perry, obviously. Yeah. We have to see. That's what like started the idea of going to Vegas. So then we were looking up the dates and then she happened to be playing and so we're like, fuck it. And then I started getting closer and they're like, what do you want to do?

And I was like, can part of my gift just be that I don't plan it? Like, can you guys just plan it? So everything was kind of a highlight. But I feel like one of my favorite parts was when we were all at the lobby. bar and we everyone kept coming down and like showing off their outfits and we'd be like woo yeah because we didn't stay in the same room we all stayed in separate rooms so kind of felt like camp and then everyone we would like group it was summer camp what are you wearing at the lobby and then everyone would come down it was like a fashion show seeing everyone's like outfits I don't know

okay so you were there yes do you usually get invited to each other shit yeah within the past few years. Yeah. Well, because we were just like sisters for a really long time. Like, just related. I feel like in high school. When did you become friends? Walk me through the experience.

High school, we were definitely like sisters. Still like friends. We never have really fought growing up growing up. I don't think we've ever had a real fight. Every fight has been about clothes. Like screaming, crying. Everything. In unison.

Yeah. Been about clothes. Why are you fighting over clothes? Because like you borrowed that without asking. Yeah. My first job, I spent all of my money on mainly like gas and clothes. Got it. Yeah.

And I would work hours for like little money. And then I go to the Urban Outfitters sales section by one thing and then go to wear it and it's gone. And I'm like, and I worked so hard to buy this fucking shirt and she's wearing it without asking. Right. And then there was like the trade. It's like, okay, well, if you borrowed that without asking, then I get to wear this like I get to wear two things that you've never worn. But you can't post photo on it.

Are you guys in the same friend group? Yeah. We're like, we hang out every day, basically. Yeah. Like, our friend group is the same. We're like a friend group. It was like Sydney went through like a gnarly relationship and then got out of it. And I feel like we weren't close at all during that relationship.

And it really made me be like, oh my gosh, okay, once she's out of this, like, I can't. Show me like what. I almost lost my sister, I felt like, in my life. And I was like, I'm never letting this happen again. She is like, I'm not, I'm like forcing her to be my friend, basically. And then after the relationship, we became really close. Yeah. Did you feel that too?

Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was a fact. Friends are amazing. Yeah. But like friends are friends. Like, they're not your blood. The fact that you guys are friends and your blood. Yeah.

I think we forget sometimes. And our friends sometimes are like, I always forget you guys are like sisters. Like we hang out with like sisters. Like it doesn't feel like But it's, we'll also do like our bickering fights about like just sister fight. And our friends will be like sister fight. But it'll last like five minutes and then we'll be like, should we go get dinner? I want to get an idea of your personalities but described by the other person.

Devin, you go first. Describe Sidney's personality and how like friends view her and like who is she in the friend group and like what is her personality? Give me the fucking team. Yeah. Sydney is like the funny one. she's like the funniest one out of all of our friends like Sydney can never be serious for more than like five seconds she's perfect and she's also fun I don't know she's not silly or good piece she's just like dry funny serious like dry humor and monotone is the fucking fun that's what she is when you're like what did you

what did you just say you're like absolutely okay that I feel like we got already got to know you a little bit better yeah yeah now do it for devon devon's not the quiet one She can be put in a room with complete strangers and walk out with ten friends, 10 new numbers, lunch plans. Like, she, we're... No, that's Sydney. No, oh my God, no. We are...

Okay, but that's when I'm drunk and I give people my number. That's completely different. Like, alcohol was involved. And, like, she can do this just, like, naturally. That's where we're, like, very different. Like, she's, like, social butterfly can, like, talk to anyone, be friends with anyone. And it's honestly really... It's like a talent of hers.

And you're like the first one if you're walking the door, you're talking first. Yeah. And then she's following you with like hilarious joke. Yeah. The joke was always like, whenever people will get to meet us, they'd always be like, Sydney's really the funny one. Like you'd always be like, Devon's the funny one. Like you get to know it.

They're like, Sydney's the funny one. And are you okay with that? It's true. I can't really be mad. Like this is reality. I have to just appreciate it and accept it. We work perfectly together. Your sisters, your best friends and your business partners.

Your company Wildflower creates the best phone cases. I'm pretty sure when we were drunk at Olivia O'Brien's music video or somewhere, you guys like light me, you lightly started telling you this. I think it was. We were like upstairs. Oh my God. It came over before. You came over to a little.

Oh my God. Yes. And you broke the latex outfit. Oh my God. I did. And it was like so awkward because I didn't know anyone. I was like, hi girls. And you guys were like.

So nice. You were like, show us your vagina. Let's get out of the way, let's go. And I was like, okay, this is great. And we were like, we love her. And then we got drunk at the music video while Olivia's like crushing it in the corner. We're like, she's working. We're just going to get hammered.

And you guys started to tell me the story of how it all came to be. Tell us the story for the daddy gang that doesn't know. Well, it happened 10 years ago now. We just celebrated our 10 year anniversary. Congratulations. That's fucking ball. Thank you. It's crazy.

Holy shit. Very crazy. My, I really wanted a. phone case for my birthday and there was like iPhones had just come out so there wasn't really cute accessory phone cases it was just kind of like the solid color protective ones like it wasn't like thought of an accessory didn't um the otter box or whatever yeah like it was just like just to cover your phone and our mom has always been very creative and crafty she was making like the shorts with like the studs on them and putting like sewing fabric on them like she's always just a very like DIY she was an art

teacher. She was an art teacher. She just like loves doing stuff like that. So she thought to get a clear phone case, put fabric in it, and stud the outside of it, like herself. And so she made a few of them and gave them to me and Devin. We went to school and our friends were like, what is that? We want that. So she made them for our

friends. And so like our friend group had them at school and people were like seeing them. And we would go the mall and people would stop us and be like, where did you get that phone case? Like random people all the time. So the first day my mom actually carried extras in her car because people would stop us that often. She would have some if you want to buy them off of us. There was no company or anything.

We literally were just like. And it wasn't an idea to make it a company at all. We just were like, oh, we'll tell our mom what type of fabric to buy and like what stud patterns to do. We literally didn't. There was no vision of growing it at all. Or having a company that was no one's plan. Yeah. So then one day she was keeping him on her.

And we went out to dinner. The four of us. The four of us. Family. And we got up to use the bathroom. And we were waiting in line. And Miley Cyrus walked out of the bathroom stall. And this was like Miley's Bun era.

Yeah. Like, and I was the biggest Hannah Montana fan. Me too. Girls at school knew me as the girl who was obsessed with Hannah Montana. Yeah. Like, yeah. My obsession. Obsessed.

She walked out and I was like, holy fuck. Like, wait. And I was like, this is my inn. I have to say something. Mm-hmm. And I was like, I know it's really annoying, but do you mind if we take a photo together? And so then we took a picture together. And I took it with the phone that had the phone case on it.

And Miley was like, that phone case is so cute. Where is it from? And we were like, our mom made it. She was like, does she have a company? We were like, no. And she said, is your mom here? We were like, yeah. She said, can I go meet her?

And we were like, sure. Didn't even go pee. Walk out of the bathroom. And we're like, walking back to our table, meet Evan, Miley. And our parents are like, what are the thing? What are they doing? Like, what's going on? There was like a girl we went to school with tweeting.

Like, holy shit. Like, what is going on? Like, I see the Carlson's. And we're like, we're like walking out of the bathroom. And we, she, Miley taps our mom on the shoulder and was like, did you make these phone cases? Like, they're so cute. And we were like, yeah.

And she was like, you guys should start a business. Like, this is really cool. This is really cool idea. You guys should like start a business. And my dad looked at her. My dad was a graphic designer for years. And so we looked at Miley and said, we'll have a website in the morning. Yeah.

And we were like, Yeah. We will? And in the midst, she got my Twitter handle. Mm-hmm. And so she ended up... We gave her all the cases off our phones, too, and the ones in the car. Yeah.

We were like, take everything. Take everything. You could have everything. She went back to her table, took a photo of them, tweeted it. Tagged me in her tweet. Everyone started. And this was like 2012 Twitter. Like no one, it was unheard of to get mentioned by like...

Yeah. Anyone. Like a celebrity or anything like that. And so. And all of our phones had died. Yes. So we didn't even know. We're driving home, like, freaking out, waiting to get a phone charger.

All of us plug our phones in. We're like, oh, my God. And all the phones like, this, z-d-z-d-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z. And everyone from school is texting me. Texting us, like, what's this tweet? My dad stays up all night that night. I mean, when Miley Cyrus fucking looks at you, it is like, you need to have a company. And your dad's like, there will be, we'll have it tomorrow.

So then we started tweeting, like, responding to people, like, wildflowercases.com, We had no inventory. We had nothing. We ended up selling our house. And that funded all of Wildflower, and we moved into our grandma and grandpa's house. And we still ran olive wildflower for the first five years inside of our house. And I did all of the, yeah, I quit my job first. I did.

Our mom quit her job. And then our dad, when he did, we were like, okay, this is like real. This is real. So we, like, I tried to go to college. I really was like. kind of embarrassed about like it was weird because no one was starting companies like it was me and sidney kind of like Sydney more so because she was like a freshman and it was taking time away from hanging out with her friends it was like weird it was weird to be doing business so it wasn't like

as supported as it is now so yeah I guess I could kind of see that because they're like what are you doing and like it was like it was very like you're not going to college and we're like I was like I had one friend in high school throughout all of this because they had thought it was was different and weird and like it it wasn't the normal it was a lot of just like making fun like like oh little like whatever we would and like posting on instagram was like weird i think people that are now beginning the ticot phase of like feeling embarrassed that if like kids find their ticot right in school because people like oh it's embarrassing and it's like no it's not yeah why is it very normal have you guys ever talk to mylie about that like whole blow up and moment i did recent

Not like recently, but beginning of this year. One of our friends was working with her and I got the opportunity to like meet her and hang out with her. We actually saw her a lot. Yeah. She was really great and really cool. I just kept being like, I owe so much to you. Like you don't understand. It's really fucking cool to see how much you guys have grown and also how close you guys are.

So it hasn't broken up the family. No. If anything, it was like our family depends on this. So if not everyone's not holding up there. part of the bargain, like, then we're not going to have a roof over our head. So it was like literally we had to work. I mean, I feel like now we're at a point where we've been able, we're lucky enough to build a team that we like we genuinely trust and have been able to delegate enough stuff out. So now it's like I feel like I'm actually starting to live my college years since I like

worked through my real college years. But I mean, I'm just so like endlessly. happy and grateful and like just it's still very surreal it's crazy girls we're going to talk about your dating lives take your sip of alcohol here we go i'm going to go back and forth between both you okay i'm going to give you each the love and the attention that you deserve okay devon we're starting with you to me okay are you currently dating anyone um yes how serious is it Has he met your family? Tell us. Well, there's like... Wushing.

She's washing. He... She doesn't know what to say. Take your time. He's really... He's, like... That wasn't awesome. He's just in...

I'm blessed. Deep breath. Take your time. Just share where you're comfortable, like, fun stuff. Well, we... So obviously, I was in a relationship for a very long time, a public relationship. And we had like the most mutual breakup ever.

And we still are totally chill and friends. And I'm supportive of each other and whatever. And but then I was like, holy fuck, I'm single for the first time in my entire life. Well, adult life, basically. And I just went on a wild journey that's, I feel like lasted almost a, you. year-ish. And so the guy I'm currently with was a part of that early on and has just kind of been with me back and forth through that.

But now we're exclusively seeing each other and he has made it through my craziest moments and still likes me for whatever reason. Carlson, class. He gets the cloud. Clap's all around. Yeah. Thank you for sharing. Can you give us a little bit of an explanation when you're talking about like a wild

year? Just a little bit of what you're talking about. I was just like zero fucks. Like I'll go on a date with anyone right now. Like just really throwing myself out there and making up for lost time and having so much fun. Good for you. I kept being like nervous that no one, like no one was going to like like me or hit on. I was so insecure about it.

I get it. When you're in a long term relationship, first it's a little shocking. to end that, whether it was a good breakup, bad breakup. It's like, I'm single. What does it even mean? Like, how do I even act? What the fuck do I do? And so you just went like a little wild and you had a fucking great year.

Yeah. I just kept being like scared that people were thinking that I was being crazy. But in my head, I'm like, I have never like done this. Like there's no way that I'm being crazy. Did you think she was being crazy? Yes. No, I thought she was more crazy at the end of your relationship. Okay.

Then out of it. So you were happy she was out of it? Yeah. It was like honestly the best months ever. I was like, this is the most fun we've ever had. And it kind of was a little bit of the same feeling that like she had when I was in a relationship, but not as intense at all. But it was just like, wow, we're really like just free and hanging. And like our friend group was just like, it was just so like free.

Right. Do you think you're more of a relationship girl? I think for being single, yeah. From like the moments that I was single, I just kept finding myself like in real like. Like, situation. Are you single? I'm single. Are you more a relationship girl or single girl?

Well, I don't know because like she's the type of relationship girl where she will get in multiple relationships very easily. I might be a relationship type of person, but I don't get into them very often at all. Got it. Even in like high school, she had a different boyfriend every month. I think I had one maybe all four years. Like I just, it takes me a lot to get to that point. to actually date someone. Everyone's got their own thing.

Like, I have friends, like, both. And that works for her. Totally. She's just so harsh. And it's like, but the thing is, the things that she says aren't, like, not true. Like, she'll, she would bring up things about, like, a guy I was seeing. And I was like, like, I was, a guy was dropping me off at a hotel. And she was like, I thought it was your, or she goes up to him and goes, I thought you were her Uber driver.

And I was like, oh, Tini. And he was like, hey, I was like. Oh, I thought you were the Uber. I literally said that then that afterwards I was like, oh my God, I called him the Uber driver. Was he like mortified? He needed it. He needed to be humbled. Okay, so you will call out shit about the guy.

She's seeing like what the time. She will literally be sitting on my couch and being like, make me a latte. Oh, and he did this guy. She was like, I want a smoothie and he made me a smoothie. And he put chocolate chips in it. Why do you do that? Just like test the like boundaries. I just like it's very entertaining for me to watch all of this happen.

So it's just like I'm like watching TV and like can be a part of it. How does it make you feel when she's doing this? I just love when my sister interacts with any guy that I've seen at all. Because I feel like it takes a lot for her to be herself around people. Okay. And that's why like the new guy that I'm with, the fact that she can like be her funny self around him like means more to me than like almost anything. But I just think I care a lot what my friends think. Like if my friends don't like someone, I'm pretty like, when it comes to guys, I'm like,

yeah, oh, they're done. Then it's not good. It's not happening. Have you gone on any dates recently? I have been on one date my whole life. Are you in Stoss? I know. She said the same thing.

She said that. She was like, I don't go on dates. Like, I'll see you at like hide or like I'll see you at like, oh, fuck Stas. And she's like, or they come to my house. Yeah. Why do you think you're just like not dating? I. How do you meet people?

I guess, Stoss's house. I guess I, Stoss's house. I guess I don't. I don't know. I just, I have never been interested in that type of dating. Like going on dates with new people. Everyone that I have gotten into a relationship with, I have been friends with and become really close with.

And then I'm like, oh my head, we have feelings. We're dating. Got it. Got it. I'm just not even that it's like hard or uncomfortable. I just don't care to. I'm not that type of dater. And she went on one date and she went on one date and she was.

was like group chatting us like who's gonna come meet up with us now like because I was like instantly not into it and I knew I wasn't into it I just I guess that also I rarely find people that I feel like I could date seriously I don't know there's some people that I'm like okay I there's something about this person that I could like but that happens very rarely I think that's fair yeah okay how would you each describe each other's type oh I I'm curious what you will say. Sydney likes like, well, they have to be funny. Okay.

Funnier than you? Sydney has to find them funny. Okay. Which is like unique sense of humor. She kind of likes when they're like, I don't want to like offend any of them. Go for it. What are you going to say? She likes like, what's the nicest way to put it?

What are you going to say? I don't know. Sydney likes interesting-looking people. They have to be unique-looking. There's something like almost off about them or their style is very like weird. Like the normal person would be like, they're weird. That's Sydney's type. And what do you say back to that?

I would agree. That's a funny way to describe it. How would you describe it? I just like, I'm really attracted to men who are like very comfortable. in themselves and who they are. And like don't just give off that vibe. Like they don't care what other people think of them. And they will wear whatever they want, look however they want.

And they're just like confident in that and who they are. I think it makes me very comfortable around them and be like, I could totally be myself, say whatever I want, where would I want? And they would be like, that's cool. Give me Devon's type. Honestly, you're kind of all over the place with the types. Is it musicians all through through? Usually musicians is like always

It's not me. It's not my fault. Okay, what do you say? Like, it can be a musician. Okay. And that ranges in all areas. Okay. But as long as they're a musician, I think she's, has some sort of attraction.

Is it because they sing to you? No. I find, I just find, like, when Sydney said, like, when someone's sew themselves, like, that to me is so attractive, like, when they just don't, like, they aren't trying to impress anyone. and I think that they're cool. Totally. Like I just think that that's, or I find them interesting.

But like the musician part, I think dating-wise, my lifestyle just works well with someone who's like, like our schedules usually work better when it's like we're constantly both traveling. You're a backstage bitch. That's fucking bad.

Backstage lifestyle. We were dancers. We like music. But it's just funny because half the time, I'm literally like, I like, The music that I like is never really like the guys that I... Right. You kind of talked about how you had an intense relationship that you guys had a little,

like, not falling out, but you just kind of press pause in your relationship. Devin, how did you approach handling when you didn't like who Sidney was dating? We just did not talk about it. But I knew. It was very, but it was more so because my boyfriend and her. her boyfriend weren't like didn't really mesh and he was like they didn't ever want to be in the same place so it not because anything had happened it was more just like no no communication was the communication so it was just constantly avoiding each other and then I was like obviously

I have to be loyal to the person that I was with and she felt the same so then we were just kind of like coexisting and working together. So when you guys would work, would you just like not talk? I mean, we were so busy. There was not really any talking. But we wouldn't like, customer service and she was packing and shipping every order. And so it was like literally just hours of me responding

or answering phone calls. And Sydney just like, but we wouldn't hang out outside of that. And did your parents know what was going on? Yeah. Yeah, they weren't too fond of him either. I don't think anybody was. But I also think everyone has to have a relationship like that. It was like such an insane experience, but I'm so glad it happened.

Like I forever, I'm like so grateful of that relationship. And I also was like, I think I met him when I was like 18, 19, and it lasted until I was like 22. So it was like a lot of, I was young. And I, that was kind of my first like big intense relationship. And it just took everything out of me. And I had never been at something that intense. And I, I mean, I talk about it. It's not like something I hide at all, but he was a drug addict.

And that was something that kind of developed over the years and also something that I didn't know much about being so young. I didn't know what anything was or like what was bad, what wasn't. And also something that I didn't want to talk to my family about or my friends about. You know, how do you like tell your friends and family that that's what you're dealing with and going through. So like that kind of ate at me inside and took a lot of like everything out of me that just consumed me. Like I bleached my hair, classic when you're in like a terrible relationship. And like my hair was falling out. I had like an eating disorder. I stopped talking to a lot of my

friends, my family. Like she wasn't talking and I just like consumed it all in myself. Yeah. Because it was so like I was trying to help him and be there for him. But also like he wasn't giving that to me. It was like the lowest lows I've ever had, but also when it was great, it felt like amazing. So like I held on to those moments and it was just a lot. But, you know, our parents have been together since they went to prom together in high school. Like they- Are parents for each other's first boyfriend and girlfriend? And they've, they're still together. They're like, so growing up, that was like my view of what love is. Like you find that one and you do anything to make it work. Which is.

amazing and I'm so glad we have that and that they have that but also getting into a relationship like that I'm like I will fight for this I will do anything to keep it you know no matter how much it hurts or whatever like this is what love is and I had to learn that's not the truth you know when it hurts you that bad you that's when you don't you know you say this isn't right I thank you for sharing that because I had something similar in high school that was like my first love and I really think a lot of people will relate to like the good is like in moments because it's so good because you're contrasting the awfulness of those moments and so you're like holding onto the good and I think that like I mean everyone knows

once you're out of it and you're like oh I did distance myself from my friends and family you can look back but when you're fucking in it it's literally you're just trying to survive you're blinded like I had no idea and it honestly took a few years out of that to just get back to like myself I like I didn't even think about dating or like seeing other people I was just like okay I need to get back to like myself and like my friends and my family and like focus on myself. And after that, like that took a few years. I'm like currently the best I've ever been. And like, Carlson clap.

So content being alone, almost too content where I'm like, I would rather stay home than go out at this point. But I'm, I probably could be in a relationship if I wanted to right now. But I'm very content. Now knowing, have you guys had conversations about like fuck, we can. never let this happen to each other again and like lose each other in those moments. Yeah, I was pretty like when she, when I, she called me and I was at breakfast with my boyfriend and she was like, he cheated on me. We just broke up and I dropped everything, didn't even finish my meal and just immediately drove

home. She was like, it's happening. Called my. Called, I literally was like, oh, my God. It's happening. Everyone's like, I know. And so I called our child. childhood best friend who basically was like Sydney's second older sister I was like they broke up she's like I'm on my way so we all literally I called everyone and we all got there as fast as we could and then my best friend Nicole and I took Sydney to Disneyland the next day and we kept being like because the friends that she had had at that time that she was like closest with I felt like didn't ever like tell her like get the fuck out of there like a lot of the friends that wanted she it was like she didn't want to hear what we were saying necessarily and

I was like, we got to show her what it's like to be treated, right, have really good friends and healthy relationships. And so I was like welcoming Sydney in with open arms to anything we were doing. I was like always inviting my sister, even if she didn't come 20 times in a row. I was like, you're invited, you're invited, you're invited, you're invited, you're invited, until she like finally started coming and having fun and then getting comfortable. and then she just like blossomed into the Sydney that we've known all along. How did you find out he cheated? The girl, well, the last time.

Oh. The girl. Which time? The girl DM me. And it was classic. He was also a musician, but was on tour and it happened somewhere. And she like sent me photos in his shirt. And it was like.

That feeling when you find out and you're like, I. I don't even know what to do with myself right now. Oh my God, my stomach. I like, all of my anxiety, everything goes to my stomach, which is why I think it made me like just not eat because that's immediately what I feels in my stomach. And I was like so lost because I didn't have close friends. I barely talked to my family.

I felt like my world was like, oh my God, this can't end. Like I have nothing. Thank God. Thank God. I'm like, thank you for cheating on me. That was like the best thing you've ever done. In the moment, the shit that sucks. then you look back and you're like, thank

God you fucked up. I am so glad he cheated. I may have still been in that shit. And look where you are fucking now. Do you guys have fake accounts? Yeah, I have like 10 accounts. Of course. I have like, I'm like how many do I have?

I have like this stalker account. You have your Finster. Of course. Oh, I am psycho. CSI. I love it. Oh. She actually is.

I love that. Like I love you even more now because she's like, well, no. I win my. ex-boyfriend used to go on tour when we got back because we dated we broke up then we got back together and that was like the seven year yeah yeah yeah I in the beginning was a fucking maniac I don't know how he put up with me I love it I would create I would go on and I would like look up their tour or I had the tour manager like he forwarded me their tour schedule and so I would go to every venue's Instagram page and like watch every story of everyone that was there and then look at like

Like everyone's profile that was there, tagged photos, everything. I actually really respect you for admitting it because I feel like there's no shame in stalking. Like who gives a buck? It's too fucking easy. Everyone does it. I don't say you don't. You're lying. I know.

Every like even this guy that I had gone on a few dates with, he like DM me and it was the first time that I had gone and met up with someone over DM that I didn't previously know. But like he knew people that I knew and whatever. And so I was like, oh, okay and we hung out and he's like so we're just gonna act like we haven't like completely stocked together i love that i was like you're like attractive you're like suddenly it was like he was bringing up things and i was bringing up things and then i was like suddenly i'm 20 times more comfortable with you yeah yeah it feels like i know you already we were arguing by the end of the date and it's just

like whatever well because it's also like let's just keep a real i know who your ex-girlfriend is already and this is our first date yeah and i know who she is where she where she works like it's I'd like to just get it. I agree. Let's just get it out there. Girls, we're about to play a game. Okay, go under your seats. You have these two little cards.

Basically, we're going to play which sister do not. I was feeling under the chair. Okay. So we're playing which sister is more likely to. And so don't show each other. But like basically I'm going to ask and you'll hold up whichever sister is more likely too. Okay, okay.

Okay. Which sister is more likely to? to be the favorite child. Wait, why? No shame. Honestly, Sydney gets away with everything. I always got in trouble for, she always does that.

She just done 50 times crazier things, but I always get the blame. Youngest child. Youngest child. I think that's just the youngest thing. Which sister is more likely to take something from the other sister's closet without asking? This is a great moment.

You're both taking accountability. Well, because I just, we love that. The thing is, I'm like, if I ask, it's going to start drama before the night goes out or whatever. I would rather postpone the drama and deal with it later so I can just feel good, wear the top that I want to wear. I think I could steal it and get away with it. I feel like you would. You would ask. No.

No. Maybe she hasn't. You don't know shit. You don't know shit. Okay. Which sister is more likely to post drunk on Instagram? It used to be me, but. I feel like it's still you.

What are you drunkenly post? You just not give a fuck. You're like, she'll just post. She just does it. I'll just think something so funny and be like, yeah, this is my bit for the night.

And then the next morning, I'm like, what are you doing? Yeah, but then I'm like, it's too late. You can't. Yeah. Right, because then they know you regret it.

And then you can't delete it. Just leave it. Which sister is more likely to give better head. Oh. Like, I was thinking ourselves. We're like, You're like both ourselves like hi.

For every answer. Self aware. I love that. I love that. Okay, great you guys. Great head game. Which sister is more likely to fuck on the first date? And he's like, do you not call?

Like, I don't go on dates, remember? On the first hangout. You're like that doesn't feel. But guess she goes on more dates more. Okay, there you go. There you go. I have never fucking on the first date. I love that for you.

Get it in and get it out. Okay, goodbye. I don't go on dates. Which sister is more likely to, if they were ever to, go on a reality show. Do you want to go on one? Yes, she has been trying to get our family on a reality show since she was in high school. Actually, for like a year, like talking to people about doing a other show. I would watch it.

One viewer. Get canceled after one season. Which sister is more likely to text their ex when drunk? Love that for you. you are you literally just staring at it and be like she won't even like tell anyone she'll do it but it's not even like and it'll just be like oh random person my random choosing of the night and I'll be yeah fuck out of her like and everyone's like Devin what do you do it devon and she's like so proud like yeah she's like also she doesn't get like scary like she will text her ex do whatever

and then the next morning she'll be like that last night was so fun and I'm like what like how do you Do you that? She doesn't get like any fear. I love being. It's admirable. Which sister is more likely to have a threesome? Have you had a threesome? She won't call it that, but I think it was.

She won't call it that. Because there was four. Boom. Even better. I love that for you. Was it fun or was it awkward? No, it was great. Great.

And it was my friend was there. So it was like, so it was totally fine. It was fun. Okay, good for you. Which sister is more likely to get kicked out at the club? Loki. Devin, what the fuck are you doing in the club?

She's crazy. I'm really clumsy, so I knock over a lot of stuff. She'll spill drinks. Got it, got it, got it, okay. That's why. That's why. It wouldn't be because I'm like, it would be because I've had two drinks and I, like, go, like, not trying to fight. We were in Vegas.

Yeah. And we were, I went with, like, some of my old dance friends. And we kept knocking over the champagne and the guy picked up the bottle and he goes, you're done. And we were like not even drinks. Just because she keeps knocking things over. But I feel like you guys are so connected. You'd be like, um, Stas, get me back in. She'd be like, security is coming.

Tell me your with Stoss. It's so good. It's so good. Okay, which one? Oh my God. This is a sad one. Which is, since there is more likely to get cheated on. We all know the answer to this.

I would never let that. I would literally go to the, like, I would cheat before they could cheat. Yeah, absolutely. If I found out they were with someone, I'd be like, I'm honestly the face of being cheated on. I mean, like, you're over it. Yeah. You're done.

You're not getting cheated on you. And also like the glow up it gave me. Yeah, you're, you're going to be fine. I stand by it. You're standing. Okay. Which sister is more likely to cheat in a relationship? Do not say that.

I honestly don't think either of us would. Loyal, lovely girls. Just so, so lovely. Okay, yeah. No one's cheating here. We're just getting cheated on over here. Yeah, come on. Okay, which sister is more likely to slide in and DM a celebrity?

I don't think both no I've never DMed anyone I have to open your phone I literally have it really you've never DMed anyone no I've never gone out of my way to like DM someone that I don't whatever I think it's funny sometimes I haven't in a while Sydney does it all the time takes a screenshot unsets yeah I love that I do that to make her laugh I'll DM someone funny and then unsunded okay which sister is more likely to be in an open relationship

neb none i think i'm too i've literally had gone jealous yeah i've gone through moments from like oh i could totally if i was like constantly told that i was like the best you're like i need a lot of reinforcement

so if she's like not shit sure but i honestly i don't think that it'd be fair to like the other girls or whatever yeah you don't have to give us this speech you're like the reason i don't have to girls. I'm going to be the shit. I'm the best.

I'm down for like friends with benefits where it's like, okay, you, I know that you're hugging up with other people. But if we're dating, dating, I make you my boyfriend. I agree. Also because if I make someone my boyfriend, I don't want to be dating other people. That's not my intentions. So why would we ever do ever? I want to know both of you, Siddy, you can go first.

What is the toxic that you like attract and you like, fuck, I hate it that I'm attracted? We all like a toxic. And then how are you toxic in a relationship? Oh. Oh, I think the toxic I'm attracted to because this could also be someone who's non-toxic, but it mainly is, is like big personalities, like people who are very much their own life, their own ways, big personalities. I could get wrapped up in their life easily in a bad way. Interesting. But it's, like, exciting and fun to do, but, like, it's obviously bad because I'm, like, separated from my own life.

So that. I don't know how I'm toxic in relationships. Maybe because I, like, give too much of myself, like toxic and, like, bad way for myself. Oh my God. You're like, an angel. You're like, I am not, because I'm like, I already don't miss jealous over here. Just wait to get to me. But I hear what you're saying.

You're like, oh, okay. It's like, let me go. Okay, so, but I get what you're saying. You just kind of give yourself too much. You like, lose yourself. Yeah. Okay, we're not letting that happen. But I'm not doing it anymore.

Oops, don't get any ideas. Sydney is actually the best, like, most thoughtful, like, girlfriend ever. Like, even for, like, I love shopping. I'm really good shopping. I'll give you the best, like, most thoughtful gift. But words, Sydney will write you a book and, like, make it so... So embarrassing. No, it's cute.

I think we should normalize, like, cute ship for relationships. Like, oh, you're a son. Shut the fuck up. Yeah, I'm in love. Okay? Please. Shut up. Please, we're in love.

Right. Okay, what toxic are you attracting, Devin? And how are you toxic? I know we kind of heard about your fake account, but... I think the toxic that I'm attracted to is, like, someone who's, like, good with their words or, like, knows... Is witty. Yeah. I think that people like that just know how to get what they want.

Absolutely. And I think that maybe I know how to get what I want. You do it right back. I'll give it right back. I get that. No, that's like a scary combo. We're just like match the energy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So if you are giving me something, then I'm going to give it back, but like slightly more to the point of like we're going to drive each other absolutely insane. Lastly, who has like a crazy fucking dating story, whether it was a one night stand, whether it was a bad hookup gone wrong, bad sex. I have like a really like it should be a bad date, but it ended up being a great. good date. Share it. Share it. We're here for it. We love story time. I was in New York, and it was the day after Valentine's Day, and we had been, like, we had gone on a couple dates before, but it was, like, only whenever I was, like, visiting, and he had just gone into town, and he was like, okay, I'll pick you up, and we'll go out to dinner. And then he texts me before, and he's like, would you want to see a movie? And I was like,

no I'm fucking hungry like I want to eat and so he's like I said I'm pretty hungry and he was like okay well I'm not going to get there for like an hour and it was like 8 o'clock at this point

and Sydney was in a room under me at our hotel so I kept going through the like staff stairs and I went into a room and I was like it's not going to be here for another hour and she's very fucking serious I'm so hungry I'm so like sits on my bed so I was like in such a

pissy mood. And so then I stopped answering him. And then he called me and he was like, I'm sorry. I'm running even later than I thought, like, I don't think I'm going to get there to like 9.30. Red flags. I was like, he's like, do you just want to go see a movie? And I was like, I'm so hungry. I was like, I don't understand. Like, I'm so hungry. And why? I don't know. So we're already arguing. And then I ended up hanging up. And he's like, what are you going to do? And I was like, well, I'm going to eat. Like, if you don't want to come out here and I thought we were going to go to dinner, I've been waiting to eat. Right. Then I'm going to go eat. And he's like, where are you going? Whatever. He like told me, gave me a recommendation of a

good place to go. And so I go there. And he's like calling me and I was like, decline, decline, decline, like whatever. And he's like, okay, well, I'm at the restaurant that we were going to meet at. And I was like, okay, well, I'm not. And he was like, do you want me to pick you up? And I was like, obviously, it's February in New York. I'm not fucking walking. Right. Granted, it was one block away. Get in a car, bitch.

I was like, I was like, you know where I am. And so then he obviously pulled around, knew exactly where I was, came in, got me in the car and he's like, I can't believe you just made me drive a block. I was like, I can't believe you were an hour and a half late to this date. And so we ended up going on this date and I was just like zero fucks at this point. He like parks, we walk in, we sit, we start eating, and we're just like roasting each other going on and on, having so much fun. The bill comes. He's like, forgot his wallet.

And I was like, he's the one I called a new driver. Are you fucking serious? And he starts dying, laughing. And I just kept being like, I'm so excited to see how you make this up for me. Because I'm like, I'm not going to let this go. So I pay for dinner. And then he's like. like, okay, well, let me, I'll drive you home back to your one block away.

Thank you. And I'm, like, sitting here, I'm like, oh, my God, I'm such a princess. We go outside, his car is towed. No, no, no, no, gone, gone. The car is gone. And we just started looking at each other. We're dying, laughing, and then, um. Did you give him a kiss and go home?

Did you catch him? Yeah. We slept together. What do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean? Like, what are you talking about? We fully fucked. I gave the best sex of his life and I went and got his car and I paid for the show.

In the morning I bought back. And I got his car back. When a man does that, he's like, ooh, go fuck yourself. Like, do the fact to you're like, and I fucked him. She's like, I was like, okay, this is what dating is. Yeah. You have to. That's actually such a good story.

You're right. Like the ups and down, the amount of times I can look back in my 20s, even my teens, of the time that you're trying to play it off cool but you're waiting and you're waiting but it was honestly it was we had such a fun time and in the morning he like bought me like a huge bouquet of flowers it was beautiful

and then he dropped me off and then he met my sister she roasted him and that's what you said I thought you were the Uber driver deserved wait why what kind of car did you drive it looks like like the Black Lincoln like town car like it looks like an Uber car can I get in next you know sitting here I was I was

waving at her out of the front seat like I was like why she's the front seat of the Uber dude I love it I also love how you like gross kind of the guys that Kevin is yeah because it puts them in their fucking they deserve it they're like great I don't think I've ever dated like a not great guy like I don't really have any bad things to say about anyone that I've like do you agree with that statement uh yeah I don't think they're bad guys at all they're just a little cringy sometimes and you pointed out yes that I'm like yeah guys We love Alex. We love Alex.

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