Call Her Daddy - Emma Chamberlain - Part 2 (FBF)

Episode Date: February 21, 2025

This week, Father Cooper sits down with Emma Chamberlain for the second part of their conversation. Emma recalls feeling used by other Youtubers in order to gain views and how she was burned by the people she once looked up to. The pair discuss feeling out of control of their public perception and the need to consequently address and debunk fake rumors. Emma describes the anxiety she experiences as a result of constantly being surveillanced while out in public and the feeling of wanting to disappear. Let’s get into relationships and sex. Emma opens up about her struggles with her sexual identity, her ex-boyfriend, AND her new relationship. We also learn how Emma lost her virginity, what her favorite style of sex is, and what gives her the ick. Enjoy daddies! 

What is up daddy gang it is your founding father Alex Cooper with call her daddy. Is there anything that made you almost quit? I will say there has been a lot of times where I've almost quit. And how do you not? Like what brings you back to not quitting? Well I'm in an interesting spot now where, you know, I'm 20 and I am in a spot where I'm ready to evolve things. And I don't really know what that means

for myself right now. But I need to like find what mediums and what things make me excited. Because I was in this hamster wheel of creating content every single week for four years. And the thing that kept me coming back was the fact that that's, it's like literally like a disease.

When you start doing YouTube or you start a podcast or whatever you do, which I've been doing both now for like two years or so, you're like, if I miss a week, I'm done. People are going to fucking forget. People won't care. And you, you like guilt trip yourself into pushing through even the roughest moments because I birthed, um, because there's this stigma that like the second you take a break, you're out. But I'm done with that. I've taken a break for the past few months.

I'm like, sorry, I'm done. Or two months or so, not that long. But I was like, I'm burnt out, so I'm gonna take a fucking break. ["Done With You"] I'm burnt out, so I'm gonna take a fucking break. When we talk about going through this hamster wheel process, it's so hard to explain a tangible feeling that it is. I talk about it in therapy all the time.

I started this podcast kinda like when you started YouTube and you didn't have anything in mind of a start or end date. It was like, I'm just gonna start this. And then all of a sudden you wake up and you're like, I've been doing this for years. And who am I without my podcast? Who are you without YouTube?

Who is Emma Chamberlain? And it's like it, there's no light at the end of the tunnel. And it's also not like the type of thing that you can ever stop thinking about. I've been thinking about YouTube for four years straight. There's not been a day or an hour that has gone by where something about it has not come into my head.

And whether it's like, how do I wanna evolve my videos? You know, what am I wanna evolve my videos? What am I gonna film next? What are people gonna think of that video? Was that video shit? Same thing with my podcast. Was this episode, did I rant too much? Did this episode, was this episode fucking annoying? Was I repeating myself too much?

It's like, there's no end date. There's no room for a real break. There is, but you don't wanna let yourself believe that, right? And... There's no room for mistakes either. There's no room for mistakes. There's no room.

It just feels like, you know, your boss is humanity in a way. Like your boss is literally just like public opinion it feels like and that's fucking weird and it's so out of your control because the court of public opinion evolves it ebbs it flows it's not like you're reporting to one person and like being like here's my work for the week, you just have to be constantly trying to guess what the people want. And when you're living by that,

it's like, what formula are you to follow? There's no formula to follow. It's like uncharted territory, and sometimes the people don't even know what they want, so if they give you an idea, that might not actually work. Sometimes you have to predict what people want, and it's just this whole mind fuck. And listen, I'm not complaining about it

because in every job and every profession in life, like there are elements of it that are just a nightmare. And I think just with this, it's like everything could just go away so quickly. And I think the way that I've found peace in it is I'm like, okay, if it does, then it does. And I'll just get pregnant and have a baby. This is Emma's pregnancy announcement right here.

You guys, I'm pregnant. Like, no, no, it's like goodbye. No, it is- Publicist said no. I have never heard someone explain it like that where your boss is the public Every single creator it said does exactly what you just said you quickly say like and I'm not Ungrateful and I'm not saying I'm not like so happy with what I have That's not it

But in everyone's life you have your struggles and you have your adversity that comes. And when you have millions of people every single day having not only an opinion on you, but sort of a hold over whether you have a career or not, it is a lot to fucking handle as a young adult. Well, the thing is too about it is that as humans, we're not supposed to, I mean this is just an issue with social media in general, but you're just not supposed to be exposed

to that many opinions, that many people's successes, that many people's vacations, that many people's hot takes. You're just not supposed to experience that many people's lives, right? We're programmed biologically to only have to compare ourselves and listen to a handful of people, right? I've watched a video about this.

I'm not a fucking scientist, but I did watch a video about this. Yeah, yeah. I'm citing my sources. Long story short, you're just not supposed to hear from that many people. It's not like something that we're evolved to be able to comprehend.

So it makes sense that for us, for example, like reading comments all the time from hundreds of different people, sometimes thousands, sometimes millions, that's just not a normal experience. And so when our brains react in weird ways, it's like, what else did we expect? This is a weird situation and is not natural.

Yeah, and I hate when people say like, then just don't do it. Yeah. I understand what you're saying, but I do love it. I'm sorry. Totally. It's my passion. So then you have to, basically, I think what we're both saying is like,

it is, there is no book that gives you, here's a guideline. Right. This is, there is no one that can tell you, like this is exactly how you act the minute you get this many followers, then this is gonna happen. And then you talk to this therapist

cause they'll know how to like, there's just no formula. And so it's weird. You eventually moved to LA. Yes. How did the change of scenery affect your videos and your life? Should I go pee before I do this one? Yeah.

Okay, let me pee. Go in the- Sorry, sorry daddy gang. I'm pissing now. No, I'm kidding. You don't want us to listen to me pee. Go in the- Sorry, sorry daddy gang, I'm pissing now. No, I'm kidding. You don't want us to listen to you pee. Go down the, all the way down the hall. Okay.

Anyways, Emma's back. How was your pee break? You can get to that. Hello, hello. Check, check. Pee break was poppin'. It was poppin'. I hope there was toilet paper in there.

I don't like live here. We could literally talk for six hours. Oh wait, is this just like the podcast house? P break was poppin'. It was poppin'. I hope there was toilet paper in there. I don't like live here. We could literally talk for six hours. Oh wait, is this just like the podcast house? This is the dad pad. No way. Yeah. It's kind of nice to like not be in your own house.

I used to do it from my bed all the time cause where do you podcast? From my bed. Yeah and like there's pros to that but I started to feel like I could never turn it off. So I just. Yes, I've been having that struggle recently. Cause that microphone is sitting on your bed or near it.

You just keep being like, should I start podcasting? I'm like, I could record right now. And it will be like almost midnight. And I'm like, oh, I have a thought. And I'm like, no, I need to accept boundaries. Absolutely. Okay, okay. So I asked you, how did the change of scenery to LA

affect your video and your life? Well, I think a lot of people who were following me at the time when they found out I was moving to LA were like, there she goes. You know what I mean? There goes the girl that we fell in love with. She's about to die. You know what I mean?

She's not going to be here anymore. And I think to a certain extent, that was a valid concern. And I think, well, OK, here was the thing. was a valid concern and I think, well okay, here's the thing. It was such a huge life shift in my foundation and my reality changed so much that my sense of identity kind of went out the window and I was having to like rebuild my new, I mean, and this happens regardless of if you're moving to LA and doing YouTube or if you're just literally a teenager,

you know, like there was a lot of shifting that was going on. It was like I was making new friends. I was starting to try to date guys. Like I was like living on my own and like trying to figure out what that entailed and like there was so many life changes all at once that like a whole new group of people,

a whole new scenery, it was just like whatever. My sense of identity was fucked. And so when it came to like making videos, the shift from moving from home to moving to LA took such a psychological toll on me that I don't think I was willing to admit to myself at the time. But it was so exhausting to find your footing in a new place, especially LA, that I was very drained just from life itself. And so when it came time to make YouTube videos, I was like, I am so fucking tired just from life itself. And so when it came time to like make YouTube videos, I was like, I am so fucking tired just from like

existing here right now, that I think my content at certain times throughout the first year and a half, two years of being in LA, like my content had moments of suffering because there were just moments when I was, my life itself was a mess. And not even a mess in a bad way, just simply a mess. Where I didn't feel like I had a foundation.

Can you explain in your opinion, like, the good and the bad evil parts of LA when you're talking about your experience. I think the good is That there are so many people here that are in a similar industry to me and to you it's so being here is nice because there's a lot of people around that can relate because it's a very unique situation and It's comfortable to be around people that are in the same industry as you. But, but well also another good thing about LA is that you know there's a lot more opportunities here and it's a lot easier like if you have to do a

shoot for something or if you have to do an interview for something, everybody's in the same area. So it's just a lot more convenient to get a lot more done because everything's here. It's either here or New York and usually it's here actually. A lot of people from New York fly here to do stuff. And so living here is very easy to get the most done. And I can't take that away from LA.

Also LA, it's like the weather's nice and like, you know, you're close to the beach. Like there's great things about LA, but I will say that there is a lot of toxic stuff about it. Number one being that you can't walk anywhere. That makes me really upset. Number two, that's like the stupidest thing to complain about, but it sucks.

Number two, being around people that are in the same industry as you is also not always the best thing. Because there's a lot of competitiveness, there's a lot of trying to use you to get farther, and that's something I didn't anticipate. It's great when you can find someone here who is in the same space as you That like Just wants companionship, but that's actually more rare than you think. Yeah, so there's a lot of Room to get fucked over when you're being friends with people in your industry and that's something that I really struggled with and experienced when You say that can you elaborate a little bit

on when was a, and obviously you're not naming names, but when was a moment that you realized, I think I'm getting used right now? Oh my God. It's been so many times. I mean, like, I... And sometimes using is not always a bad thing. Like sometimes you can even find yourself being like,

well, yeah, they're maybe using me, but I guess I'm kind of using them too, you know? Like in certain types of collaborations, things like that. But I think that's kind of different because usually when it comes to like a collaboration of some sort, it's a mutual benefit. Sometimes it's not though. And in those moments you're like, okay, I'm not benefiting from this at all.

This person's like profiting off of me in some way and I don't feel number one like it's having a positive impact on me and number two like I don't think that they actually care about me and so that's when it gets a little messy is when it's not a mutual thing and you can tell that they actually don't even care about you at all. And you know, it's a part of it. Again, like it's a part of it.

And so I in retrospect now that I'm far away from all people or all things that could ever put me in a spot where I would be used or would feel taken advantage of in some way, like now that I'm far away from those things and I can look back at those moments when I did feel that way and I was wrapped up in those things, I forgive because I understand that it's like we're all just trying to prove that we deserve to have dropped out of college

or to have dropped out of high school or to have moved to L.A. Like, we're all just trying to make it happen. And so, if somebody thought that they could benefit from me in some way, yeah, that's not nice of them, but also I understand where their head was at and I'm able to forgive now. When you say you're able to forgive,

so you've been burned by people. Pbht! ["Burned by People"] And like, again, so not saying so surface, but not going to into actual detail. Like when you say burns, like can you give an example? Like was it someone asking you to be in a video? Was it someone asking to come in your videos? Was it someone a brand deal?

Like what are you referring to? There was like a few instances where, you know, people would want me to appear in their videos, for example, and I would be like, I can't today because I need to be working and I need to ... I have to be... and they'd be like... and maybe because they were more successful than me in some ways or whatever, when they would be like, you have to. I would be like, you have to. I would be like, okay. You know, and so I was young and very yes man when I first moved to LA.

So if somebody, and these like YouTubers who are maybe more established, they, I think that they knew that they could kinda push you around. Push me around a little bit, not only on camera, but off as well, just by, you know, like they just knew that I was really also still kind of a fan of everyone.

I think they could sense that as well. So a lot of people I think knew that they could take advantage of me and that it would be fine. And listen, again, it's fine. Like I get it, but I'm also like, but it still sucked and it made me a lot less productive and it made me depressed because I felt like just an object in some ways, which again, I don't think that was their intent,

but I felt like I was just like a fucking drone, a corporate drone, you know what I mean? Like a YouTube corporate drone. Right. And I honestly would say that the ways that I was burned the most though were more personal ways, like the ways that just like people

who were like kind of bullies to me behind the scenes. Like you would never, not necessarily on camera, but most of the shit that was bad was behind the scenes. Whereas just like shitty friends. Point blank, you know what I mean? And I feel like when you're also saying that, would it also, but it would always somehow tie back to content.

Well I mean I think that our friendship was based in content. You know a lot of the times it was like what was our friendship without content? Yeah. Like if we weren't making content together, would we be friends? It's hard to say.

You know? That's what I think a lot of people aren't able to, obviously, aren't privy to that information. On the internet, you see these people, they're hanging out, oh my god, they're new friends. Most of the relationships that I have seen in LA are transactional. A thousand percent.

I don't know a lot of people that like genuinely when we're all home like for like holidays, like those people are not conversing. Being like, hey girl, like how are you doing? Like it's not like that. It's all based on, we're back in LA, you wanna shoot a TikTok. Yes.

And you're promoting. I remember doing it in the beginning of my show when I had a co-host. It was like, we were promoting being best friends. We had met like three months before. And it was like, but you sell this fun lifestyle, and it doesn't look great, I guess people think that. If you're standing with someone that doesn't have followers,

that's actually your friend from your hometown, no one's interested in that. But if you're standing next to, if I'm standing next to Tana Mongeau, that is logistically gonna get more downloads and views than if my friend Jackie from home is gonna be next to me. Like, who the fuck is that bitch? So there is like an incentive to create these dynamics,

but it's really dark. Well, it's interesting, because actually some of the friendships were like quite close friendships where we were talking a lot. Some of them not, but like some of them genuinely were close like that. But the question still remains, would we be friends if we weren't making content together when we were together?

And it's like, that's kind of where it gets foggy, right? Cause it's like, we were really close, but if we weren't making content together, like would we be hanging out? Would we even care to check in on one another? You know what I mean? Where was the intent? When did those type of dynamics, when did you wake up and they stop?

It happened like one by one, I would say. I would have kind of realization about, just, and it wasn't like anything, some of them there was like moments where it was like a blow up, where it was just like, fuck you, you know? This is just like not, like you are using me, I can tell, fuck you. But then other moments it was like, it was more just like a drift away where I can tell, fuck you. But then other moments it was like,

it was more just like a drift away where I was like, you know what, how was our friendship off camera? And if the friendship was like not good, then I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna back away. And I've always been somebody where I'm like, I don't feel much sadness if a friendship's not positive. I will be the first one to fucking cut it off.

And just because What's the point? You know, even if we're Profiting off of our friendship, even if we're not even if it's a private friendship Both I will like walk away with no Remorse if I feel like it's right and so that I kept that principle for all friendships You know throughout my teen years. Have you ever stayed in a friendship longer for fear of the public perception and the fallout? Yes, like I've definitely struggled

to cut off public friendships a lot more. Public friendships have always been harder to kind of back away from, even if it was like what needed to happen for all parties, you know, like it's definitely harder because you're like, God, like, you know, even if this ended civilly or even if it fucking didn't, we, you know, I don't want someone else,

the other party to get in trouble by the court of public opinion for our friendship ending the other party to get in trouble by the court of public opinion for our friendship ending. Because even, let's say they did the worst shit. Let's say they were such an asshole to me. They're gonna pay enough with their own conscience. You know, I don't think it's necessary to have the world knowing about that too.

What do you get anxiety about in general? Like what are the main things that give you anxiety? I would say the main thing that gives me anxiety is the pub, is something happening where my character is portrayed incorrectly and it being believed, right? And me not feeling like I'm able to say this is not me. Because I know, like I don't care what anybody says,

I'm not a fucking bad person. So, and I know that. And I know that because I have too much of a conscience. Like the guilt I feel about everything. I can't do bad shit. Like because I just, my guilt and conscience is so strong that like I almost wish I had less of that because I actually feel guilty about things

that I don't need to feel guilty about and it sucks. You know, like, but I know that I'm not a bad person, but I do sometimes fear that something will get in the, somebody will even spread a rumor about me that's not real. And that will become known as fact. And I know how things work on the internet where it's like, people aren't digging into every single story that they see.

So if like a bad story that comes out about me comes out, people see it, they're just gonna take it as fact. And let's say a week later it's proven, oh that's not true, like Emma didn't hit an old person in the street. Um, like, people are still gonna remember the article that they saw where they said that I did. And that's what freaks me out is that, you know,

I don't always feel like I'm able to defend myself and I also don't always want to. And I also can't go and diffuse every rumor about myself. I would be fucking, that's all I would ever do. You know what I mean? If I went and addressed every fucking rumor or every fake blah, blah, blah, blah, blah about me, you know, I wouldn't,

that would be actually my full-time job. So like, I can't do it. And so it's just like this process of trying to figure out like, you know, like I just feel so out of control of the public perception of me because somebody could go and lie about me tomorrow. And you know what, the other thing is, I don't, like, let's say I did do something fucked up.

Let's say I did push an old lady in the street. Let's say I was having a really bad day. Who knows? There's not a lot of room for having a bad day. There's not a lot of room for having a bad day. There's not a lot of room for making a one-off mistake. And even if that's not something that reflects my character, how am I, I can apologize and say, this is not me, all I want, but everybody does that.

And how do people even know that I'm being honest? So it's like, it kind of feels like a witch hunt in a way. And I think that in some areas, like, yeah, criticism is necessary. Absolutely. But I think that sometimes, like, people love it, and so they want to feed the drama, and I don't want to be the butt of that. And listen, it's happened. You survive, but it just fucking sucks. And it sucks even more when it's not true or it's not a representation of you as a person. And people make blanket statements like,

oh, we heard Emma did this one time. Emma is now evil all around. You know, there was like a rumor that I was a bully in high school. And I remember, I was like, okay. And I saw like a girl from my high school made a TikTok that was fully not true. It was fully not true about like me saying some mean shit

during class. Like made of this whole like fake story. I'm like, girl, we went to all girls school. We were like nerdy. Like nobody was bullying each other in high school. Is there a chance that I excluded somebody in high school? Is there a chance that I maybe made a snarky remark to someone in high school?

Fuck yes, there is. There's a great chance that I probably did that sometimes. I woke up too early, I was in a bad fucking mood, sure. But I never did anything evil, I know that for a fact. And do you know what, if I did, I'm sorry. I don't know, I don't remember. Do you fucking remember what you did in high school? No, nobody fucking remembers.

And we're also kids. It's like kids playing in a fucking knife drawer. We're all learning how to be good people and you're gonna fuck up in that process. But it's the fact that, you know, my identity is in the hands of like everyone who's ever met me and everyone who's ever met me and everybody who's ever seen me do anything.

And I don't have control over that. And the psychological damage is quite, it is crazy. But also, I set up for it. So here we are, you know what I mean? Most people listening to this podcast right now are the ones that you're referring to as your boss, my boss. They're listening to this and they're going to make a decision.

Do we like Emma Chamberlain? Does the daddy gang like Emma Chamberlain? And I'm sure there's gonna be- It's okay if you guys don't. No, and I'm sure vice versa, there's gonna be people that are like, there's people that don't like me and they'll be like, why did Emma go on Alex's show?

And it's like, people are unforgiving and ruthless on the internet. And not only that, they are excited when there's drama. Like there have been episodes where people are like, I'm gonna cancel you for having that person on your show, but does it say more about me for having them on? Why are those episodes the most downloaded though? Of course.

So that's actually you guys are listening. Of course. You are the ones ingesting it. You're clicking on it. I don't know. It's a scary industry a little bit to be in right now. I agree. And I think the other thing is,

is that there's a difference between somebody doing something genuinely bad, right? And something genuinely bad and having an intent that's like, I actually like wanna hurt people, you know, cause that happens on the internet. You know, you see people fuck up and do things that genuinely directly harm people and they actually had the intent of harming people, right?

I never on my whole time on the internet have ever posted something with a negative intent, right? Now listen, if I do something that is perceived in a way where it's like, Emma, that's not right, and here's why, that's fine. I'm willing to like learn, I'm always open-minded, and I think constructive criticism, there's nothing wrong with it.

This could have been perceived in a way that was offensive and hurtful. I totally get that. Then it's like, okay, we'll go from there and thank you for letting me know. Let's move on. Like I didn't have that intent, but I totally understand where you're coming from.

I'm so glad that you let me know. I'm so happy to do better next time and to be more aware of how this could be perceived wrong. But it's when people are like, oh no. You're done. You're done because even though you had no idea what you were doing and even though it was a complete, complete 200% accident, you're still done

because you made a mistake. That is such fucking uncharted territory. How are you supposed to predict? It's like, I could fucking like put on deodorant in a video. And I feel like at this point, somebody is gonna be like, you're offending people that don't wanna wear deodorant. No, literally. You know what I mean?

It's like, I understand that like, you have to, if somebody does something wrong, holding them accountable is fair and in some actually places, very good. I've learned so much from being on the internet and from people being like, hey, when you talk about this like this, that's not cool. And I've been like, damn,

I would have never known that otherwise. Thank you. Like truly, like I'm grateful for that. But it's when it's like people twisting shit just for funsies and not giving me room to be like, it just discourages me and it just makes me, yeah, it makes me wanna disappear, you know? How has your brand evolved?

When I first started on the internet in general, I was just kinda copying what all the girlies were doing. You know, I was like, okay, I'll talk about makeup and clothes and things like that. And then that wasn't really lighting my soul on fire. So then I was like, I'm gonna start vlogging. And I just started vlogging. And then I vlogged for years.

I mean, I was like, you know, just like filming random shit. Like whatever I thought was like funny or interesting or random at the time, I was just filming it. And so, in some like more concept based videos too, like stuff where I was like, going to children's place and trying to pick out a cute outfit, you know, shit like that. And just having fun with whatever.

I kinda had no, my baseline theme on my channel is me, so whatever happens, I'm just the main theme of it. I mean, what kind of self-centered idiot 16 year old do you have to be to think that that's gonna- You fucking narcissist, Emma. I know, right? I'm like, damn. Like, it's about me?

I'm like, it's about me? Okay, that's it. What's your channel about, babe? It's about me. Me. Tune in, bitches. Tune in. I promise you'll love it. No, but really that was it.

And then I think within the past year or so, I've been trying to kind of make my content a little bit more mature, because I'm more mature, so on my podcast I've been talking about more serious topics and on my YouTube, the last few videos I made were very more just chill and toned down and just relaxed and not super based on a gimmicky kind of concept, just kind of just me existing and doing whatever

and editing the videos myself in a way that I felt was calming and more mature to watch, I would say. Because I just don't think that I wanna be making, I have to evolve the things that I'm putting out or else they'll seem ingenuine. They have to evolve with me or else it's like not gonna work. Right.

["I'm Not You"] You mentioned kind of having an identity crisis. You have an entire life to live. How do you see this public persona that you created basically as a child Yeah. evolving into adulthood? This is something I've been thinking about a lot

because I think that the last four years or whatever of me being on the internet, when it came to my career, I was just in autopilot. I was just like pumping shit out and it was coming from my heart still, but it was like, I was just kind of like on go, go, go, go, go mode. So I wasn't thinking about anything too deeply

and I also wasn't thinking about, I definitely wasn't thinking about my own personal identity when no one's around and I'm by myself and I look in the mirror, who is that? I was so focused on working 24 seven for the past four years that I was teetering between having no thoughts and being burnt out and just feeling like I was dying because I just could not look at a final cut pro

one more fucking time, right? But then also moments of just like absolutely just busting shit out. And it was just like back and forth teetering. That left no time for me to ever have a free moment to be like, okay wait, who am I outside of all this? So for the past four years, you know, I've just been in this hamster wheel of working

and working and working and working and working and you know, kind of exploiting myself at times to just do as much as I possibly could. Especially because I started to get so many opportunities that I was excited about I was like well I don't want to say no you know what I mean like I like I want to do everything but you can't do that but I didn't know that at the time so I was spreading myself so thin and giving myself no time to sit back and be like, okay, wait, who the fuck are you? Who the fuck are you? And within the past, I would say,

honestly, especially two or three months, I've been having a lot of psychological struggles because I'm now having to figure out, refine my identity after like shoving it away for the past four years, ignoring it and just putting that on the back burner. It's like now I'm left being like, I don't even know what fulfills me, what excites me,

what makes me feel like I have purpose outside of my work. I don't know what it is because I've not let myself go there. I didn't have the time to go there. And so that's kind of what I'm figuring out now and You know, I've gotten to a place where it got so dark for me, you know, even recently that I was like Well, I don't fucking care if everything goes away. I'm like, I don't care because I'm so I'm so disconnected from

Myself that like I need to refine that. And if when I'm ready to come back to the internet fully and if when I'm ready to get back into the swing of things, if people don't wanna watch anymore, people don't care anymore, I need to do what I gotta do. It's impossible to develop your identity and be online at the same time.

Because developing your identity means silence. You need silence. You need alone time. You need to be intimate with people. You need all of these types of things that do not align with being a fucking YouTuber or even being a podcaster at times. You know, I think podcasts is like,

when it comes to personal identity, it's easier, especially too, because like they can't always see you. There's something nice about, I don't know, but with YouTube specifically, it's like trying to develop your personality and simultaneously continue to be consistent on the internet.

It's like, you cannot do both because you have to have a fully formed something to show. Did you ever watch Harry Potter? You know I did. Okay. Did you watch the reunion? No.

Emma, you need to watch it. I don't know if anyone listening is a Harry Potter fan, but some people may consider me like Slytherin. I'm more of like a Gryffindor Hufflepuff. You're giving me Gryffindor through and through and I'm like, and I don't say that about many people. People like Slytherin bitch,'m more of like a Gryffindor Hufflepuff. You're giving me Gryffindor through and through and I don't say that about many people. People like Slytherin bitch, I'm like no I'm Hufflepuff. Like no I'm not Gryffindor.

You're not Hufflepuff, you're Gryffindor. Anyways, it is fascinating because Emma Watson, Daniel Radcliffe, and I think it was Ron who was like, I love how I'm calling, see I'm even calling them by those names, the characters. Of course, of course. They literally said, they were like, when we stopped the movies, I genuinely felt uncomfortable

when people called me my real name. I didn't feel like I could even identify with that name. Child stars or child performers or now, internet kids that come up on the internet, they are losing some of their identity in the characters that they're portraying. How did the growth of Emma Chamberlain stop when Emma Chamberlain, the internet character, was born?

You know, I wouldn't say that like my growth completely stopped because I, you know, it's like I was still growing. I for the last four years made my entire purpose in life to like, at a certain point I was like my entire purpose is to now succeed at this and take it as far as I can and enjoy it while I'm doing it, right? And so I put away and threw away all other purposes that I had even brewing in me. I was like, I don't give a fuck about anything else.

I'm throwing all of my eggs in this basket. You know what I mean? I wanna make, this is my only purpose. And then now I'm at a place where I've arrived at what I wanted to happen. And now I'm left with this feeling where I'm like, this is fucking amazing. And I'm so happy that I'm here.

But I don't have any more goals in this area, right? I don't have any more thing, I don't wanna get more followers, I don't wanna any more goals in this area, right? I don't have any more, I don't wanna get more followers, I don't wanna get more views, I don't care about that shit anymore. At a certain point I was like, I would love to grow this as big as I can, whatever. Now I'm like, I don't really think it needs to go any bigger.

I'm good, you know what I mean? I'm fine with it how it is now. So I'm having to figure out now what things will give me purpose outside of this. And it's a fucking hard pill to swallow. I didn't, you know, I'm like, I'm 20 and I'm like, now I have to find a whole new purpose, but also everybody is looking at me and is like,

look at that, like, you know, but you have this to look at, and I'm like, I need something bigger and deeper for myself that might not have anything to do with the internet. You know what I mean? I just don't know what that is yet, and so that's been something that I've been struggling with is like, you know, I haven't had time to like, you know,

do hobbies or whatever. But the other thing is, is that I'm now in a routine where like, I don't really have a lot of inspiration to do things that don't involve my work, which is a weird thing that like, because my work in my hobbies became one, right? Right. So like, I don't have like the desire

to do other little hobbies that like my brain convinces me are pointless to do. You know what I'm saying? Well and also your job has flowed in not only to like your purpose and your hobby, but it's also flowed into like your actual lifestyle and living like you can't go, you're not even 21, but if once you're 21, you can't go to a bar

and not get recognized. And what you do in that bar is a direct reflection on your job, which is your purpose. And so every single aspect of your life is wrapped up basically in your job. Yeah. Which for some people is very normal and for some people it's like, oh I work at 95 and when fucking Friday hits

I am a different beast on the weekend. Absolutely. You don't have a weekend. Yeah, it's honestly like everything in my life is melded into one where it's like my job, my social life or lack thereof most of the time because I'm too anxious. But like, you know, every element of my life is all connected.

You know, I don't have a separation of things. And because of that, it all feels like everything could fall apart if I just pushed the wrong domino and it could just all fucking fall down. Like, you know, everything feels very fragile, I just pushed the wrong domino and it could just all fucking fall down. Everything feels very fragile, which is why I'm now like, okay, I can't have all my eggs in this basket. I wanna continue doing this.

This is my passion and something that I, I enjoy doing this stuff, right? But I have to find a life outside of it and solidify that life and make that life something where I'm not so worried about what people think of me on the internet. I'm not so worried about if this all went away tomorrow because I do have this life outside of it that's so rich that it doesn't matter.

Walk me through social anxiety now with this platform. It is. I mean, of course, like I do love meeting people. I mean, I really do. And I am generally a social person. I would say like I'm I don't really get social anxiety about talking to people. Like if somebody comes up, I mean, there's been moments when it's been like kind of overwhelming or something just

because it was like, you know, I was late to something or blah blah blah. I always you know The actual interaction itself is always pleasant you know the only thing that I'm paranoid about is people who don't maybe like me and see me in public and they are like Want to film me or are like watching me and like making fun of me behind my back Like it's the fact that I could be anywhere and somebody might recognize me and I might not actually know that they know me. If somebody comes up to me and says,

oh my God, what's up? That's sweet, I don't actually mind that. It's the fact that I don't know when I'm just another human being drifting through the street or when somebody is watching me because they've seen me before. That is what makes me anxious and that's what makes it hard

you know because I'm constantly feeling like I'm being surveillanced whether I know it or not. What are you doing though like tangibles in order to try to find and redefine and that identity that you're looking for? I think a big step in it was deciding that I'm going to probably step back from YouTube. OK. Just because I will say that, and I don't know, I'm not making anything definite. I'm just like, this is just where I'm at now.

I take it day by day. That's what I have to do, or else I'm just like, this is just where I'm at now. I take it day by day. That's what I have to do or else I lose my mind. But I do, like for me, doing a weekly podcast is something that I can do. Because I mean, it's very much me sitting in bed and like just talking. But I also think that by stepping back from YouTube, I have a lot more free time so that I can figure out,

okay, maybe I wanna like, you know, who knows what I wanna do. But like I might wanna do something else that's creative that I can create for, you know, the world to hopefully enjoy if they decide to enjoy it. Like it gives me room to explore, number one, what I could do next in my career, but also it gives me more time

to develop friendships properly, because I also don't like to have people in my videos or on my podcast or anything, because it just gives me too much anxiety, and I like it just to be me. And so it caused me to push a lot of people away because I couldn't combine work and play, you know, I had to keep those very separate. And so because of that, it was like, I didn't hang out with people very often.

So I'm taking this time to just like have as much free time as possible and just let myself get really bored and see what I do to entertain myself. I also hear when you're saying you're gonna give yourself that freedom to find things you like, but then don't grab the camera and film it for content. No, it's yours. Let it be yours.

Let a hobby be yours. And don't be like, oh, this would make a good vlog. Yes. There's gotta be a line for yourself, like no, cause then you're working. Do it for yourself. I can already feel the tension. You're like, fuck, I know. I've done it too where I'm like, oh, that was such a fun moment. Then I have to exploit it on my podcast. It's hard.

I think I have to be strict with myself and be like, Emma, you can do your podcast, but you can't be posting videos and be trying to figure out who you are and what you enjoy to do when the camera's off. If the camera's still fucking on every week, you just can't figure it out. So, you know, I don't know what's, I'm constantly changing my, I'm like, oh, now I'm doing this, Oh wait, now I'm doing this.

Like I'm all over the place, right? Dude, you're 20 as you should be. Right, so it's like, but I just don't think, I also don't know if, I feel like there might be something else out there that might excite me career wise and might light me, light my soul on fire, you know? Like there's something out there that I might be missing. And so I wanna have a little bit of time to explore that

and see like what I wanna do next that's gonna be exciting to me. I think that's amazing. So yeah. In terms of growing up basically on the internet, you have presented a very PC brand and no sex, no, we don't even know, has Emma Chamberlain ever had sex?

Has she ever kissed a boy? Has she ever, we don't know. How has people's fascination with your sexuality affected your sexuality affected your sexuality? Yeah, it's really interesting because I always, I struggled with my sexual identity growing up as well because as I mentioned earlier, I was just a late bloomer and I just also wasn't an ultra feminine girl

and I've never been a super stereotypically feminine woman. But yet I am a straight woman. That's what I am. But no one ever, I've always gotten shit for that and people have, growing up too, people being like, that's not true. And I'm like, you guys, why? And I mean, listen, I don't ever wanna complain.

Sexuality is such a tough and intimate and emotion-filled subject that I don't wanna complain about people questioning my sexuality because I know it can be so much worse and so much more complex. So I don't wanna sound like I'm complaining. But at the time, I was like, I remember my ex-boyfriend was like,

we were dating and one of his friends was like, we were dating and one of his friends was like, dude, she doesn't actually like you. I don't think she actually likes you. I think she likes girls, I don't think she likes you. And then he came to me and told me that and I was like, why the fuck would you say that? Why the fuck would you say that? Why are you assuming that, because that's not true.

And if it was true, so fucking be it. But like why is this like, why are people speculating? Like I'm dating it. Why do you think he thought that? So he actually told my ex boyfriend why he thought this. And it was because I didn't wear makeup and I wore sweatpants a lot. So all of a sudden now I'm like not allowed to like boys.

I was like shut, like, holy fuck. I mean, seriously, just stupid. And I mean, I've always thought, I mean, I get it, we're humans, we're curious about other humans. And so I don't think it's like, I don't think there's anything wrong within the privacy of your own mind

to look at somebody else and be like, hmm, I wonder this, this, or that about their sexuality. If you do that within the safety of your own mind, look at somebody else and be like, hmm, I wonder this, this or that about their sexuality. If you do that within the safety of your own mind, totally fine. Sure, but don't go to my boyfriend and be like, dude, like, I think you're barking up the wrong tree here. Like that's so fucking rude. Did that affect your relationship then with your boyfriend

in terms of psychologically for you? Was it always? I was like, well, all of a sudden now I feel like I need to start being like not myself, like this is me. Right. You know what I mean? This is just who I am. Like trying to prove now you're straight.

Like no, I do like guys, I do like you. Yeah, and I'm like, why the fuck should I have to prove that anyway? Nobody should ever have to prove shit about. Never. It's like, it's so incredibly nobody's business, which is I think why I've always been afraid of getting into it is just because I'm like,

sexuality is also something that has ebbs and flows too. Some moments you're like, oh my God, I'm on a roll, I'm just hooking up with everybody, and I just, whatever. And sometimes you're like, I literally can't remember the last time I felt any kind of excitement about anything sexually. There's so many moments, things are constantly evolving there. But I also think that I'm just not somebody where,

actually let me rephrase, because I was a very late developer as a young person, and because I didn't get any attention from guys really for my appearance, I definitely became used to getting attention from what I was talking about and how I was behaving. And that was what I started to lean into more because I was like, well, people don't,

I don't have boobies, so nobody's looking at me for my boobies, so I have to figure out some other way to get attention. And so that kind of became muscle memory where I was like, well, now I just feel like nobody's ever looking at me and is looking at me in a sexual way. So in order to like get attention,

I just have to like utilize my personality and then hope that like through that, somebody will be able to be attracted to me in a more sexual way like if they maybe like me, personality wise. So that's kind of what I became used to, but it always made me feel shitty because I was like, I just don't think guys are looking at me

and are like looking at me in a sexual way ever. And that fucked with me because I was like, but why? Like you know what I mean? I was like, this sucks. And even now that I'm older and my boob has grown maybe this much. Like a tiny little tiny bit.

But now that I'm older, even though that's not really as much of an issue anymore, it's still, there's a little trauma there. In the back of my head I'm like, number one, I remember people always not believing that I was somebody who preferred dating men, which like fucked with me, but then also like, I have memories of like just guys not being attracted to me physically.

And then on top of that, I'm also just not a super outwardly sexual person. I never present myself in a very outwardly sexual way. I'm just not comfortable doing that. And I don't have, there's nothing wrong with doing that. It's never felt right to me. And I've always felt like, well, because I'm not an outwardly sexual person,

like does that make me less attractive too in some ways, you know what I mean? So, but like that's just, it's so interesting though, because the perception of me is so interesting for me to like watch. Like people are like, I've seen comments that are just like, there's just no way Emma's ever had sex. And I get it, but I get it, but then that fucks with me

because I'm like, I get why they think that. So, it creeps me out. You know what I mean? I will admit, I'm a tomboy and I have been my whole life. And so my brand is weird because I was so over sexualizing myself that I felt imposter syndrome sometimes where I'm like, that's not actually the full truth.

Like I don't, I'm not incredible in bed every night. That's the truth. Some days I'm really tired. And like, and so for me, it was like weird to acknowledge that, but for you, do you ever find yourself like pushing yourself to try to be more feminine so that you feel something? Like, does that make sense?

A thousand percent. I mean, my like experiences in, throughout my life actually, I haven't had like a lot of one-off experiences. Like I've mainly just been in relationships, which I think was good and bad, you know what I mean? Well I think, okay, I would say when it came to like any experience I've ever had in my life, where it's been like a sort of one time thing,

which hasn't actually happened a lot, but every time that it has, I feel like I've been able to kind of play a game where maybe I'm being a little bit more feminine because it's just fun. It's just fun. I can just be whatever the fuck I want right now. And it's like a fake confidence you give yourself by acting it out. You're's like I can just like be whatever the fuck I want right now.

And it's like a fake confidence you give yourself by acting it out. You're like, I can be this way, I am. You can't do that in a relationship. No. Because the colors come out far too quick. So like I've never really been able to like play that game in a relationship.

I definitely have done that in the few times that I've like, again, like so it's happened, but never in relationships. But I found that in've like, again, so it's happened, but never in relationships, but I found that in past relationships, I didn't feel as respected by guys that I've dated in the past, just because I feel like they kind of, well especially one relationship in particular, but it was just like, I just felt like,

he was very critical of the fact that I maybe wasn't a super feminine girl. And sometimes he was like, oh, it's actually super cool and chill. And then sometimes he was like, he was like, if I had put on jeans and come over, he would be like, oh my god, you finally put effort in, that's crazy. It was like, and I'm like, dude, shut the fuck off.

Or if I would be wearing makeup or whatever it would be like a big deal and like it would be like oh my god you're wearing makeup like whoa you know what I mean we're like we're like you should wear heels tonight and I'm like what the fuck are you talking about like I'm like no like I felt like I wasn't enough yeah and in like the areas that I was feminine weren't enough. So I felt like there was an effort to make me more feminine to fit what they wanted. But just again, we were fucking kids.

All my relationships happen at such young ages that it's like, of course, there's gonna be shit like that. But I would say I'm fully comfortable now in what areas I'm more feminine and what areas I'm more masculine because simply just getting into a relationship where my masculine and feminine traits are appreciated, but also dating somebody who just doesn't care

about that shit and is just like enjoys people for being a person. Like that it's like in less about like, and also it's like kind of similar to me in the sense where like maybe not the super traditional, super masculine, super feminine. Like that's not playing any roles in our relationship. Yeah. You know?

So, and that's what it is, is like anyone listening, like sometimes it just takes finding the right partner that you don't need to change yourself. No. You just need to find someone that like aligns with making you feel like you can be 100% authentically yourself around them. And when you do that, it's a beautiful place to be in.

It really is. So this is called her daddy. Yes, I have had sex, Alex. Can you tell me when you lost your virginity or no? Yeah. Okay. I was, I've never talked about this on the internet. This is so fun. Well, this is Caller Daddy and I'll get roasted by one of them.

Well, I also like in my personal life, I talk about sex all the time. That's why it's so fucking weird for me that I never talk about it. I'm not like, I talk about it all the time. So it's like not- And you're not saying in your show, you just mean in real life.

Yeah, like in real life, I'm like, I talk about it all the time. Dude, when we had Zoomed that time, you were talking about it with me. I'm not saying like even just sex. She's not like, Emma's not like a nympho. I have so much sex you guys. Right, right.

But like, I was surprised, I remember on that Zoom, how naturally you discussed, just like, oh yeah, like I loved that, like I've listened to your show and I was like, oh shit, I had no fucking idea. Your brand is very specific and it's not that you're avoiding it, it's just, it's not talked about. Well, that's the thing, it's like,

if something's not talked about, then how are you supposed to like know how someone, where someone stands on a topic? And it's the thing it's like if something's not talked about then how are you supposed to like know how someone where someone stands on a topic and it's interesting because yeah I just like it's so bizarre to like talk about it but it's also kind of fun. Okay I feel like I'm old enough now like I'm finally where I get to talk about it. It was like the Disney Channel effect it was like when Miley Cyrus was like I have to go to the such extreme and go like dance on a pole because like everyone sees me as a baby and I need them to not see me as that.

Meanwhile, she was probably fucking smoking weed on set at Hannah Montana. You know what I'm saying? There's so many things that like... The perceptions can pigeonhole you and then it does affect your identity and so I can feel you being like, hey guys, I'm 20.

I can say I've had sex before. That's okay. Even though your publicist may be like, don'm 20. Yeah. I can say I've had sex before. Yeah. That's OK. Even though your publicist may be like, don't say that. I don't think, but also like, I, yeah. OK, so. Oh, yeah. I was 17. Great age.

It was actually a really not bad experience. Like, it was with a guy that I was like seeing at the time that I was pretty comfortable with. And he was definitely, he had had sex lots of times, and I obviously hadn't. But he was great. He really, I don't know, it was just like, it was one of the most jarring experiences for me though

in my entire life because it was one of those things where it was something I just never believed was possible for myself because growing up I had these experiences of people doubting my sexuality. I even had moments where I was kinda like, I don't even know if I like anyone. I went through phases where I was like, I feel nothing kinda like, I don't even know if I like anyone. I went through phases where I was like, I feel nothing towards anyone.

And I don't even know if I'm ever gonna like somebody enough to let them in like that. And I also was like, I don't feel like anybody wants to do this with me. I've never been, nobody's ever looked at me in a sexual way before, at least to my face. So I don't think that this is possible. And so when it was happening, I was like,

oh, it was so, I was like, this is just like, feels like everything's shifting in my life. Because I was like, damn, this is like a new chapter. And I felt, I had weirdly imposter syndrome with it, right, because I was like, I don't feel like, I'm like, are you sure that you wanna do this? I'm like, nobody's ever wanted to do this. So I don't know why you wanna do this.

And also I had a huge crush on this guy at the time. So like, you know, he's even more crazy for me. And in retrospect, I can look back and be like, no, like I, like I was being hard on myself and I didn't need to be like that. But, I mean, it hurt really bad, that's all. Dude, I don't, no one should ever be like, my first time was incredible.

Like, no. It was so awful, we didn't even have sex. Right, it's like a movement and then you're like, all right, we did it because it's like one, no one has to, you're not gonna have an orgasm. Yeah, it's not gonna fit. You're not experienced. You don't know what you're supposed to be doing.

You don't know what you're supposed to be feeling. It's almost like, let me just get through this. Not in like a creepy way. It's more just like, no one's going to be relaxed and chill. It doesn't get fun until you're like, Older. Older. Yes. And even like then, like there's always more to learn.

Always. And really I think the weird thing is, is like the as I've learned through my show is like, it's really starts with yourself and a lot of people don't feel comfortable starting sexually with themselves until you get a little bit older. Right.

Because there's like a lot of weird shame and especially if you haven't felt this feminine sexual energy, you're so in your head that to even be by yourself and masturbating, you're already thinking outside of your body about how you're, I'm not sexual, this is weird. What am I, and you get in your head. Well, you also are like, it's so true.

I mean, I've had moments on a personal level, but also with other people. I've gotten into my head and been almost embarrassed where I'm like, bitch, you are not, stop. Stop being like. Like stop faking it. You're on top and you're like, this doesn't feel genuine. I'm like, I literally, I'm like, this is not,

it feels like out of character. And it doesn't feel like it aligns with me. And like, that's why I hate going on top. Because I'm like, I don't wanna have to fucking think about me. No, but I think it's okay to say in terms of like, sexually it's hard, especially growing up where there, I mean, I will admit, like my show,

as much as it probably gave women confidence, it also probably drew a big hole in people's sex lives being like, I don't do that. And like, I've never, and then you get insecure. Totally. And again, porn and everything makes you feel like you've got to be this like sexual deviant yeah and so when you're like again like a position like on top eyes are on you and you're like okay so I know I'm supposed to start like moaning and then like I

should like throw my head back and like but naturally right now like I feel a little out-of-body imposter syndrome of like yeah I don't feel that yet and it's so it's weird but also like if you're like for me personally I'm not so like I feel a little out of body imposter syndrome of like, I don't feel that yet. And so it's weird. But also like, for me personally, I'm not, I don't fucking like want to, it doesn't excite me to like do crazy shit necessarily. I just don't. But it's like, people are very judgmental about

if you're like, I'm not, I don't, like I, listen, it's not like I'm not, I don't, listen, it's not like I'm not a sexual person. There's definitely that side of me, but I also am not a super sexual person. And there are times when I'm like, it doesn't need to be this whole crazy thing. It just is what it is. And I don't feel like, I don't wanna fucking perform.

I don't wanna, it just, and I think that the expectation to perform might actually end up being detrimental too at times, because you're like, it's all about figuring out what the vibe is, and if you're just like, well, the vibe doesn't feel like making really loud sounds right now, but I'm just gonna do it anyway,

because I saw it in porn yesterday. You know what I mean? And then you get into that pattern, and then you're like, when can I stop? But then it's like kind of like, but then it takes away from the intimacy of it. You should just disappear and like not think, and like let it happen, and that's it. You just have to get out of your own way.

I will also say, like I think when what you're saying is the majority and the norm, but people publicly don't admit that. I know. And so it's like, let's just say it. Like it's true. I will admit that I will enjoy, Kay, I know you're gonna hate what I was about to say,

so I'm not gonna say it. Wait, but should I say it anyways? What? And then I'll cut it out. On Call Her Daddy, I will admit that I enjoy vanilla sex. I think that's okay. Like you're not trying to like, like you're not trying to like swing from the,

I think that's totally fine. Like what's wrong with like fucking, like what? Like a good missionary and then like one other positionary. Go to bed, what is wrong with it? Nothing. I don't need to fucking like literally do a helicopter

background fucking fuck flip all over. I don't want to do that. I also like feel like like I mean, listen, OK, yeah, there's moments when you can be crazy. There's moments when you can be fun. I get it. That's like once in a blue moon. In reality, it doesn't need to be like that. And I think it's also like I'm thinking about like the sex I was having at 20. Like, I'm excited for you because it's like into at 20. I was faking things and I was having at 20, I'm excited for you, because at 20, I was faking things, and I was performing, and I knew, it was all a game to me,

because I was like, if I do this, then he'll be obsessed with me, and then blah, blah, blah, and it was all, it kinda all corresponded to a bigger goal of mine, not just the immediate bedroom, but I do think as you get older, and again, as you get to know yourself sexually, you begin to actually find things that you know you like, and then it's not even about vanilla sex,

it's like what works for you, you can start to implement in the bedroom, and it's not like you're faking it. But you have to actually find those things by yourself. Okay, let's move on. Kay's like, I'm gonna, what gives you the ick? I'm gonna do some rapid fire, and then we're done. I know this is going so long. We Kay's like, I'm gonna, what gives you the ick? Like, I'm gonna do come some rapid fire and then we're done.

I know it's going so long. We need to go. I know. We could really go for six more hours. Okay. No, no, I know. And I actually like more with more, but I like with more with that

because I think girls need to eat. I like that. I agree. Dude, I think that also like is really, yeah. It's like real and it's not like jarring. I thought you were gonna say something crazier. Then I was like, oh, that's a good answer. Emma loves anal. Yeah. I thought you were gonna say something crazier. Then I was like, oh, that's a good answer. Emma loves anal.

Yeah. I'm kidding. That's the promo of it. Okay, I'm gonna go rapid fire and then we're done. I'm ready. What gives you the ick? With guys or in general? Oh, both.

Okay, with guys, I get the ick when, just like any kind of like cockiness and bragging and like trying to like signal that they're like successful. To me, this is not rapid fire with me. Nothing will ever be rapid fire with me, I'm so sorry. It's okay, it's okay. Being cocky and honestly when people like just have bad taste in like clothing and fashion.

I feel insecure around Emma right now. Stop! With my outfit. just have bad taste in clothing and fashion. Not that I know what I'm doing. I feel insecure around Emma right now. Stop! With my outfit. I'm like- I'm not saying like, there's like a certain, but they're like braggy about it. So like- Got it.

Being cocky about like having bad taste. That's really icky to me. It makes me have the ick every time. Is that you? That's not you. You're always hot. You always look good. You're not allowed to play this game.

So anyone wondering who we're talking to, it's our mutual publicist on the right side who's been crying this entire interview. And who's also so gorgeous. So gorgeous. And dresses like the hottest. She's a full sweat outfit on with heels. Like nobody's cooler than her.

Yeah, they're like flared sweatpants. No, she genuinely is slang and nobody can tell me different. Anyways, okay, have you ever been cheated on? You know. Emma, you're like, it can never be short. It's like yes or no. It can never be short, not technically,

but like I've been in situations where it was maybe not right for people to be going out, and they did. Fair. Have you ever cheated on someone? No. What is the longest Have you ever cheated on someone? No. What is the longest relationship you've ever been in? A year and like 10 months.

Is that the one you're in right now? I will not say. Okay, fine. Better question after that. Do you own a vibrator? Yes. I have one downstairs that's in a box. I got one when I was like 17.

That's amazing. I know. Who told you to get it? You just got it yourself? It was somebody I was talking to at the time. OK. What is the most hurtful thing someone has done to you in a relationship?

Oh. I would say just not be supportive of things that I was doing, like, just like not be supportive of like things that I was doing, like simple things, like work stuff, what I decided to order on a menu, like just like being in a relationship where somebody was constantly disapproving of every little thing I was doing and like being genuinely mean about it. Good answer. How is the relationship you're in now different from previous experiences with partners? It's, I mean so many, everything about it.

I mean, obviously being like best friends with your significant other is the best fucking thing ever. And I don't think that that's ever been true prior. Also, like, just the most incredible, I can't even, it's just like, it's almost like when you're in a good relationship, it's like you found somebody that's like a missing piece. And like they just have all the things

that you wish you had and you learn from them and they learn from you and they treat you with respect and there's a mutual respect and it's like all these things and it's like also your best friend and then it all comes together and you're like I Don't have any complaints and I don't know how that's possible. You know, could you share? What do you argue about in this relationship? We don't argue can I ask you how you guys met in this relationship? Not a lot. We don't argue. Can I ask you how you guys met? Through the internet.

Why do you think fans have become so invested with gaining access and insight into your dating life? I think that, like even for me, like as a consumer of the internet, like things are interesting when there's mystery around them and because I don't ever confirm or deny anything, that's why I think it's so interesting. It's almost like if I were to share it, it would become possibly less interesting, but the problem is that I want to protect the people that I'm

dating or the people that I'm like even just lightly talking to or the people that I'm hooking up with like whoever it is at whatever I'm like even just lightly talking to or the people that I'm hooking up with, like whoever it is at whatever given moment, like even at whatever stage it's at. I wanna give them complete privacy and I don't want my life to like affect them. Are you frustrated when you do see, like if like God forbid like a paparazzi thing

comes out of you, like how does that make you feel? I mean, for me personally, I don't care. I mean, it's more like I'm concerned about how it affects them, and I don't ever want to lose an opportunity to have a good connection with somebody because my lifestyle creates them stress, right? And that's something I've worried about

in relationships that I've been in that have been positive. I'm like, I just am scared that this is gonna get out because I don't want them to feel violated and they didn't sign up for this, you know what I mean? And so that's why I keep it private. But also if things come out or things are speculated about, most of the time people that I've been with or people that I haven't been with where

it's been speculation and they're like this is silly right but I just decided to talk about none of it because I'm like if it's true or it's not it doesn't fucking matter because if I chime in about stuff when it's not true then that means everything I don't you mean about smart I just leave it all to the imagination and honestly it's kind of fun to, it's kind of fun to see, it's kind of fun to see what people assume. So, yeah. Okay, wrapping up. In 30, 40 years, what do you hope people say

about Emma Chamberlain? I would hope that people would say that in one way or another, like something that I said, something that I shared, made them feel inspired or made them feel comforted in some way. That's my main goal, is I want people to feel comfortable and heard by listening to me, but also kind of safe in a way too.

Emma Chamberlain, thank you for coming on Call for Daddy. Alex Cooley! We did it, we finally, we did it! Dude, it's been a long time coming. I'm fucking sweating. I'm sweating. Dude.

I am dehydrated, my legs are cramping. You look, you look great. You look mess. Thank you, thank you. I'm literally, well I mean that was, this has just opened up a whole new chapter for me. You know what's two hours and 42 minutes is gonna be another two part series.

I, wait, we needed this though. this though. I could have kept going. I do feel yeah, it was like therapeutic. Yeah, we need great work Thank you, Alex. Thank you for having me