Call Her Daddy - Hailey Bieber (FBF)

Episode Date: December 20, 2024

Hailey Bieber joins Call Her Daddy. For the first time ever, Hailey opens up about the public-generated controversy between her and her husband's ex. Hailey makes it clear she wants to discuss this one time and one time only…on Call Her Daddy.

What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Okay. Hello. Hailey Bieber, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Hi. How did you pick your outfit for today? I just wanted to feel comfortable

and I feel like I just wanted to wear jeans and a t-shirt. Be cozy. But still cute. Still a little vibe. I feel like that's your entire vibe is always being comfortable looking and then having a tinge of super sexy and cute but still you can. I can't stand being uncomfortable I like I'll do it for a

certain amount of time sorry amount of time she's burping yeah like I'm throwing up the first person to throw up on Call Her Daddy is me um sorry I when I say I will do it for a certain amount of time, I mean, if I have to go be on a carpet for a second and it's just the look is the look and there's something stabbing me in the side, I'll endure it for a second or a few hours and then. I need to tell you, one time I went to a fitting

and this woman was like, oh my God, try on these heels. And I was like, whoa, those look aggressive. And they're the Hailey Bieber heels. They're the classic ones she always wears and I was like were they Jimmy Choo? I don't even know Hayley I don't know I was like oh okay I guess I'll try them off Hayley wears them. Hayley they were the most uncomfortable shoe I've ever put on in my life I was like what the fuck how does she walk in these it's the one you know what I'm talking about it's the

one that's the big platform yes but it's the it's basically just the bottom of a shoe and then the string goes around your fucking ankle. I used to be a ballet dancer and like dance on point. Flex on us. So I think that the reason that really high heels don't bother me is because my foot is just like used to being like, it doesn't care. It's a gift because when I tell you,

I couldn't walk after I wore those. I was like, okay, Hailey, we're not on the same playing field. She clearly knows what she's doing. If you could trade closets or a sense of style with any of your friends, who would it be? It's so interesting because I feel like me and all of my friends

have such different style that I think I'm trying to think of who I feel the most similar to. I think Kylie has a very amazing and fun closet that is just, I mean, who wouldn't wanna share like trade closets with her? I'll trade houses with her too if she ever wants. I'm like, you know what?

I think I agree. Yeah. I was like, yeah, I think I'd take Kylie's closet. We're also the same shoe size. What shoe size are you? An eight. I don't wanna overstep, but so am I. So if you have any hand me down.

So if we wanna exchange shoes, we can do that. Just not your heels. I think it's so funny that I'm thinking about, who can I actually wear all their stuff? Well, she's an eight and I'm an eight. I'm like, it's actually just a game, but you're like, no, a logistically, no, I love it. I'm such a logistical thinker.

I'm like, but if I was to trade with this person and she's a size nine and a half, then I can't have any of this. She's like, Haley, this is not real. It's fantasy, it's a game, we can pretend. Like, okay, but I love it. Okay, so Kylie hit us up. We're ready to take over your closet. You came in here, there's paparazzi taking photos of you, it's a lot.

How do you handle the pressure of being photographed for the world to see almost every single time you step outside. It's really funny, because I was thinking about this coming over here and they were following me in the car, which is like, it happens all the time. Whatever, I know that's gonna happen if I'm in LA. There's not very many ways to avoid it. They just sit at the bottom of my street,

so it is what it is. But I was driving and sometimes when there's paparazzi following me, I have a flash in my head of getting out with a baseball bat and literally destroying their car. I literally sometimes, it makes me just so annoyed that I'm like, one of these days, I swear to God, I'm gonna get out of the car with a fucking baseball bat and I'm going to destroy their,

this is a hypothetical situation by the way. She's not being logistical, she's being hypothetical. I just like, and driving over here I was like, I literally, that's my urge right now. And I'm like, at the same time, do I wanna give anybody the power to disturb my energy like that? No, but it's just like a feeling of, it's just annoying.

It's the feeling of hitting a breaking point of like, I just, I feeling of, it's just annoying. It's the feeling of like hitting a breaking point of like, I just, I can't stand it anymore. And some days are totally fine though and some I can avoid it. And like, I sometimes like get really lucky and like sneak different ways to like do it. But I think what I've come to terms with is like, that's gonna happen in LA.

You know what I mean? This terms with is like, that's gonna happen in LA. You know what I mean? This isn't the middle of nowhere, where there's actual privacy. It's the land of where everything happens. And there's tons of people here. It's also like, I'm not the only person that deals with this. It's like so many people deal with it,

and it comes with the territory. And it's not like, I hate when people are like well you asked for this because it's like I don't think that's like a real thing to say I didn't ask for grown men to follow me around with cameras but I do understand that it comes with the territory. It's hard to make friends when you're in a position where you don't know people's intentions, right? Do you have a hard time trusting people? Sometimes. Sometimes. I feel like I'm the type of person, and I've always been this way, where I'm like, I trust people until they prove me wrong. Which is like, I guess sometimes can be a dangerous way to be. I'm a people person. Like, I love to connect with people. I love meeting new people. Sometimes I have a hard time with like becoming like friends with

someone or close to someone, but like I love being cool with people and like being social and meeting people and knowing their story and like where are they from. I think that I have a lot of my friends that I'm very close to are people I've been close to for a long time. Some newer friends, some not, but I just think, yeah, I think there's sometimes that aspect of like, the distrust of like, I don't know what you wanna be around for. Have you ever had someone take advantage of you and your situation and like,

kind of love that it's like, oh, I get this lifestyle around her and how do you deal with that? My personality is very like, I don't do well with confrontation. I don't like to confront awkward situations. I'm trying to work on it. I'm trying to be better at that.

But I never want to like, I've always been the type of person where like, I don't wanna like end things on like a sour note with a person because especially if there's someone like in an industry where I have to see them or like if we're gonna be out somewhere and I gotta see you, like I don't wanna walk into a room and feel like I have beef with someone.

Like that stresses me out big time crazy. Even if it's so you can stick up for yourself yeah we're working on that today yeah that's something I struggle with even if it's for me sticking up with myself I just want to like because I think there's a way to stick up for yourself and still be cordial I've had situations and or a situation where I feel like there was like a lot of stuff I found out about the situation and then I knew if I confronted the person they were just not going to own up to any of it.

So it's like what's the point? If I'm going to go to you and be like here's what I found out I know that it's true I've seen the proof I've too many people have said something to me about it and they're just going to be like I can't believe you would believe that about me like that's just not true why am I gonna waste my breath with somebody who's just not even going who's not in the place in their life or like the type of person that is going to even receive the confrontation at all

because I can do confrontation if it's in a calm, appropriate I'm not a yeller, like I'm not gonna like freak out and like I'll get fired up when it's something, I'm not a yeller, I'm not gonna freak out and I'll get fired up when it's something that I'm really passionate about or defensive about because I've had that happen to me before but I still always wanna end it on like a, how did we move forward from here? Not like, and sometimes the reality I've had to face

is that sometimes that's not possible. Like sometimes you just can't be around that person or be friends with that person and like it is what it is. Totally. You just have to move on. So many people in the world are fascinated by you and fascinated by your life and I think the public can kind of feel that from you of like you don't like confrontation. You rarely will speak out on things if there's drama which I think so public can kind of feel that from you, of like, you don't like confrontation, you rarely will speak out on things if there's drama,

which I think so many people do respect you for. But how much does that then weigh on you, of things piling up on you, that it's like, when is gonna be a good moment for Hailey to just kind of like speak her truth? And you've done it a couple times on the internet, which I think people were like, oh fuck yes, like Hailey, let's go, which we're gonna get into.

Well I think, based on what you're saying, like one of the, I think, were like, oh, fuck yes, like, Haley, let's go, which we're gonna get into. Well, I think based on what you're saying, like one of the, I think, issues with that is that then you get stuck having to explain yourself for every little thing. And I had to get over that because I was in a place at one point where I felt like I wanted to like explain the narrative and explain myself and like that's also exhausting.

So if it's like every single time I do an interview or if I say something and there's gonna be something that people are like, why would she say that? Or she's wrong for saying that or that doesn't make sense. You said marriage is hard work and then I said that and everybody was like, that's not a good sign if you think that it's hard. It's like no matter what I say,

I'm always gonna have to be explaining myself to people, which is why I actually hate doing interviews where they're like, it's like a blurb of a longer thing that I said that's just so out of context and then I'm gonna feel like I'm explaining myself. What marriage doesn't have ups and downs and in a good way you get through shit?

But also what I meant when I said hard work is just like, there's compromise, there's sacrifice. I feel that way in most relationships in my life, even friendships, even work relationships. Like, they can be tough sometimes. I didn't mean it just overall. Yeah, like, it's hard and it sucks. Like, that's not what I'm saying at all.

It's literally the best thing ever. The whole sentence of what I said was like he's my best friend. I love coming home to him, but like yeah, it takes work because I'm 25 years old and I have a life and I have a career and I have my own friends. So trying to balance making my wants and needs and hopes and dreams work and hopes and dreams work, while meshing my life with another human who has his hopes and dreams and career. And like, we're busy people and we want to be in a marriage.

So we're making it work. And sometimes it's hard. How is that not make sense? People don't want it to make sense. People really want that statement to be like, the marriage is ending, like here we go. But people have been saying that since the beginning. So that's why at this point I'm not as,

I was more sensitive about it. I don't really feel sensitive about it now because I'm just like, no matter what I say, it's like the marriage is ending. Like every single time I say something about my own relationship, it's like there's something wrong with it. So it's like, I just don't care.

People have been saying this now for four years. So let's get into it. You are married. I started sticking my feet into the couch. You're like, oh fuck, here you go Alex, just go. She's literally burrowing in. Like look at my ass. Oh my god, Haley.

Okay, you married one of the most famous people on the planet, Justin Bieber. What are the best parts about being married to Justin? Well, I think the best parts are that he's my best friend and there's nothing better than being with the person that makes you smile the most, makes you laugh the most. He's just literally the best human to me ever and I think that he's a person who has been through a lot and shouldn't have gotten gotten to the other side of a lot of what he's been through and he has and he's overcome so

many different things in his life for being famous so young and the fact that he's as normal as he is, he's literally just to me, I feel like he's a very like normal regular guy. I guarantee you someone takes this and they like fucking chop it up and make it sound like I said something different. But I've known him for a very long time. We were friends for a long time before anything else.

And like, I just love him. You can see it with the two of you, even though we only see stuff. I mean, I remember when I saw you guys on the beach in Santa Barbara and I grew up, I watched Justin Bieber, I was like, oh, like I didn't know what to expect. Like I was definitely intimidated by you guys because we'd only met once.

I was like, wait, why are they so normal? Justin's like, hey, what's up? Gives me a hug. You're like, what are you guys doing on your trip? I'm like, you guys are so, so normal for how crazy your life is, and it's unfortunate that people don't get to see that side of you guys.

Yeah, he's also like, he just has the kindest, sweetest, most like gentle heart and soul to me, and I've always thought that about him. Obviously he's gone through phases in his life where he was being, you was being a little out there. I didn't want to say like, fuck boy, because it's like not, yeah, but like yes and no. I don't know. I don't know how to describe it, but like he was just in a different space in his life

and was like, I think ultimately when people are like acting out, it's just because they're hurting and he was just in a space in his life. I mean, we're all hurting every single day, but I think sometimes we go through a season where it's like we're hurting a lot more, we're going through a lot more, so we're just a different version of ourself. That's not really who we are. But like to me, he's just the best, the most fun.

Like I have the most fun with him. He understands me more than anybody ever has in my whole life, and I think that goes both ways and he's just my guy. How has being married to someone with that level of fame impacted your identity? Where do I start? Well, I think even for starters, even me talking about him or talking about our relationship,

people will take that and be like, all she ever talks about is her relationship with him. And even something like that, I'm just like, well, we are married and he's a huge part of my life and obviously people are very interested in like our life together and he's a humongous public figure so it's like it's a little bit unavoidable at times and I do try to you know have my own thing but it's like our lives are completely messed together so I don't know I'm like what do you want from me? Of course people are gonna ask me about it. They're gonna ask him about it. I just don't see how that's avoidable. Sometimes it is

because it's just not necessary to talk about but even in a situation like this, yeah we're married. I have his last name. I don't know how I'm supposed to avoid like talking about my life. Like, that's my life. This person that you happen to be married to happens to also be one of the most famous people in the world. Nobody would be asking me about him if he was someone who had a different type of job or like, you know, a nine to five. Like I just, the reality is that it is what it is.

From your point of view, can you explain why the internet was so angry over your engagement to Justin? First of all, I think one thing is that we're both really young. That's, I think honestly that's for starters, which I totally understand. When we got engaged, I was 21 and he was 24. Yeah, 24 and 21. I personally never thought I was gonna get married that young. Like I always thought I would be maybe getting

married now and I'm 25 now and I still think I'm really young. I think the timing was obviously very rapid and very fast which now being four years past that looking back on it I I totally get it I'm like yeah that seemed really drastic and really crazy because but that was what we felt was a decision between the two of us and it felt correct for the two of us at the time and clearly we were right because here we are four years later. And I think just given the timeline of like where he was at before we got back together and what was going on and there was just a lot happening. But I will say too, like the only people

that really know the truth of the situation and what the timeline really was and how it happened and how it went down are like me and him. Perception is a really tricky thing because when you're watching something from the outside, you can see it one way when it may not really be the reality of what happened behind closed doors. And that's a big challenge, I think, of being somebody who is in the spotlight or being

famous is that I know how we got to where we got period. Like that's, I just know how it happened. I was there and I was living it every day. So there's just, yeah, there's a lot that I can understand why people were so like, what is going on? Like, this seems crazy. Your husband was in a very public relationship. They were kids. People were obsessed with the idea of them. People were confused on the timeline you're talking about

of like, is she a home wrecker? So I guess my question is, Hailey, were you ever with Justin romantically at the same time as her? No, not one time. When him and I started hanging out, like, okay, let's just put it this way. When him and I ever hanging out, like, okay, let's just put it this way. When him and I ever started hooking up or anything of that sort, he was not ever in

a relationship, ever, at any point. I would never, it's not my character to mess with someone's relationship. I would just never do that. I was raised better than that. I'm not interested in doing that and I never was. I think that there are situations where you can still kind of have like back and forth with someone, but even that was not the situation.

Like I can say period point blank, I was never with him when he was in a relationship with anybody. That's the end of it. And I had been involved with him since I was 18. The timeline also that I think sometimes is in question of like us getting together and getting engaged and Him having been spending time with his ex before that This is so crazy I've literally never talked about this ever I understand again how it looks from the outside and there's a lot of perception there, but That was a situation where I I know for a fact that it was the right

thing for them to close that door they were not in a relationship at that time but of course there's a very long history there and it's not my relationship it has nothing to do with me so I respect that a lot but I know that it closed a chapter and I think it was the best thing that could have happened for him to move on and be engaged and get married and like move on with with his life in that way and it's hard for me to talk about this because I don't want to talk on either one of their behalf again because it was their relationship and I honestly respect

that very deeply. But I just know what was going on when we got back together and I know what had to happen for that to come back together in a healthy way. And I think it was the most healthy, mature decision that he could have made. And I respect that as a woman, I would never wanna get into a relationship with someone and be engaged to them and be getting married to them. And thinking in the back of my mind, I wonder if that was really closed for you. And I know for a fact

that the reason we were able to get back together was because it was very much completely closed. And that is respectful to me. So let's talk about your experience with there's been a lot of hate on the internet. I know you don't like to talk about this stuff, but you've never. It literally makes me so uncomfortable. And I see that. Yeah, I'm like, can't stop moving. And I'm like crying because I just feel like

there's like a little bit of that like anxiety of like people will probably take it the wrong way. Or like, I just don't wanna say something that is like being disrespectful or like bringing up something that is like being disrespectful or like bringing up something that can like stir up feelings for someone that like I know that we're just all so far moved on from like any type of drama and I'm so happy for that so like I get nervous about talking about it because I'm like I don't want to like stir anything up or like bring anything up that is going to be like a thing or. And I get that.

And I think the reason, unfortunately, is you guys aren't completely normal human beings. There is a complete world out there that is obsessed with all of you in different ways. And then there are people that hate you for who your husband dated back in his past. Take me through how your husband's past relationship still to this day affects what people are saying about you and to you on the internet. Well I think like one of the things that we already just covered is that like the timeline of things and like a lot of the hate and the perpetuation comes from like, oh, you stole him. And I guess maybe that just comes from the fact

that they wished that he had ended up with someone else and that's fine. You can wish that all you want, but that's just not the case. In December of 2020, a person posted a video encouraging haters to comment on your Instagram live with nasty messages messages announcing their allegiance for Justin's ex and just like fully harassing you on your live. What do you remember feeling on that Instagram live when you saw those comments start popping

up? I don't, well I think there's like a certain like, almost like numbness that you get where you just like, you just know what's gonna happen. It still happens to this day. This is, you're talking about something that was two years ago now, almost three, and it's something that's, if I was to go live on Instagram right now,

it would still be happening, probably less, which is nice, but you just reach a point where you're just like, you have to just like ignore it and be like, okay. And didn't Justin came publicly to your defense and like said something? Well, because I know that for him that's hurtful because if we have moved on, why can't you? Like that's kind of just the whole thought process of like, it's just hurtful. It's hurtful. It's bullying it brings me back to the Rob Pattinson and Kristen Stewart the

Miley Cyrus and Liam Hemsworth Their first love right and people are obsessed. I feel like with this concept of like your first relationship Somehow it's being pushed onto you as I get the fuck out of the way like let them get back And you're like if I wasn't even here, then that's not gonna happen So like let us just live our lives I know you go find your partner and you be happy but it's it's hard I have had this conversation with a psychiatrist with a therapist before cuz I'm just like I hate comparison The whole point of this conversation is that we're talking about how my relationship

is being compared to something else, or I'm being compared to another woman, and get the fuck out of the way type of a thing. So where I'm at and the position I'm in, it's not for everybody, but everybody has a purpose. But that doesn't necessarily mean that you're supposed to also be 25 and married and doing this or,

I could have nothing figured out right now if in an alternate situation in an alternate life and I think Haley he was America's bad boy sweetheart and so I think there's ownership people and fans feel it is there totally and there's also this like why is it you there's so much of that that I feel like why why you? Though like and I'm like, I don't know right like I just fell in love. He fell in love I think there was times where like I'd be I can confidently say I don't think we knew it was gonna be each other Several times so like I can't say that yes at 18 years old I knew a hundred percent that that was my husband. I don't fucking I didn't fucking know

You almost can't live up to the idea of who they think belongs with him. It would have nobody would have This is the thing if it was any if it was another person It's like because so many people have adored him for so long nobody in their mind would have ever been like the person. And here's the thing too, is like we're talking about a lot of like the negative side of it. There's also so many people who have made me feel so embraced and so loved and obviously it has brought me a newfound audience and a newfound, you know, it just, I want to like give credit also to the people who have like supported

and been so kind and like so amazing and so great. I think everyone in the world almost knows that you have been bullied and harassed on the internet for almost four years now. Like that's a fact. And it's a lot. But I do think it has changed. I will give credit to say that I do think that four years ago, three years ago, two and a half years ago,

because of how intense it was, it made me just very like closed off and like not want to share anything really of myself on the internet I didn't really want to be open I would get a pit in my stomach doing interviews because I'm just like I can't like I'm it's like it's like being like traumatized kind of like you're too scared to like speak or open yourself up or say the wrong thing. And then you start to become, I had moments where I felt like I was becoming very like, not like a robot, but like I had to be very meticulous about what I was saying and very

agreeable and can't say the wrong thing. And it just starts to become this very like weird way of feeling where you feel you just can't be expressive and you can't be yourself and then that was where it came in with like wanting to do YouTube and trying to have a space within this age of the internet and this age of social media where I can say this is who I actually am take it or leave it like me or, this is who I actually am. Take it or leave it, like me or not, this is who I am. And I felt like actually taking this step to, even though at times it was really uncomfortable for me, taking this step of being like, I'm proud of who I am

and this is my personality. And like, this is gonna sound probably so corny, but like, to me, I've always felt like I was just like a girl from fucking New York oh my god this is gonna sound so cringe I grew up to me I felt like very normal and like I am from a small town called Nyack that is like a suburb of New York City and I woke up every day and like I was homeschooled and like did ballet. And like to me, I feel like I've remained that same person. Of course life has changed drastically,

but like at the core, I feel like I am proud of who I am at the core. Like I know I've always been that same person and I feel very rooted and grounded. And I grew up very grounded and rooted and of course I came from a famous family. Everybody, you know, that's the reality of my life, can't change that either.

And I just feel like, again, people didn't really like know me and know my story and know the kind of person I was. Like people don't know what kind of friend I am, they don't know what kind of daughter I am, they don't know the kind of person I was. Like, people don't know what kind of friend I am, they don't know what kind of daughter I am, they don't know what kind of sister I am, like, but I know. ["Dog on the Road"] You are starting to share more and even in the video that you made where you basically asked people to stop harassing you and you're like, leave me alone. Just leave me alone.

I was like half joking, but I was being half serious. It was supposed to be something that was light and funny, but I was being half serious like it was supposed to be something that was like light and funny, but I was also being serious because I like woke up one day and I was like I Can't believe we're still doing this because what you like read a comment Yeah like I was I which again like I have to stop myself from doing all the time because we know that the internet is a Toxic hole and like comments are a toxic hole, but I was just curious about something and then I'm reading, I'm like, are we still talking about this?

We're getting to, this has been, it's been years now, four years we've been together, come on. Let it go. Let's all evolve together. Let's hold hands and really like. Shh. Okay, we're done. That's how I wanted wanted to that's how i felt in that moment i was

like are we serious that this is what we're still doing like we're still gonna harass me about this this shit there is so much that i could have said there was so much that i at times was like There was so much that I at times was like this close to saying and I just felt like there's so there's so many things that were happening where it's also like there's a time and a place and there's also a time and a place to let other people express what they need to express and like go through their feelings and emotions and like I just felt like there were certain times if I was going to say something it was going to make things way worse and not be beneficial. Again it was going to be my word against someone else's,

against a bunch of other people, and it would just not be beneficial. And I've struggled with that for, I had struggled with that for a long time. Like I would talk to my therapist and be like, but it's not fair that people think that this is what happened when this is really what happened. And then you get into a cycle of like, again, feeling the need to explain yourself.

And for me, it's not even about explaining myself. It's about people knowing the truth because there's a truth. There is actually the truth of something that happened and there's the truth of what didn't happen. So I think for me, when people make up stories about me online, I'm just like, but that's not what happened. That's not the truth. Is the crux of it the homewrecker thing?

Like is that what really bothers you? I think there's a lot of timing and timeline stuff that like just wasn't true. And that's also just the internet making up their stories and like taking little bits and pieces of something they're looking at from the outside. And by the way, it's not even, it's so many different things. The internet can make up, they can literally sit here

and say that I threw up on you. And I'd be like. Which she did. But that's not. And you can sit there and say, Haley threw up on me, it was really crazy. And then I would read that on TMZ and I'd be like, that did not happen.

Do you know what I'm saying? There's just stuff that happens all the time I'd be like, that did not happen. Did you know what I'm saying? There's just stuff that happens all the time that I'm like, hello? Can you explain what happened when you were taking photos on the red carpet with your husband at the Met Gala in 2021? Oh, and people were screaming? So yes, I could hear everyone screaming.

And again, I think there's a certain part of you that has a numbness of just like, I was like really surprised. I could kind of hear it, but I didn't know if that's what was really going on until I saw the video after. The whole thing of everybody being like, oh, he's trying to tell her not to cry.

That was not true. It wasn't making me cry. Although it's a very disrespectful thing to do towards anybody, I felt like I had something in my eye. See, that's just what goes to show you how out of context things can be seen. When he's trying to help me, I'm like, I feel like there's something in my eye.

Do you see something in my eye? And I'm going like this, and he's like, no, me, I'm like, I feel like there's something in my eye. Do you see something in my eye? And I'm going like this and he's like, no, no, no, you're good. And as this is happening, everyone's chanting. Was it their, was it, I don't even know if it was their relationship name or just her name. They were chanting out your name. I think probably both.

So then you take the sunglasses. Yeah. And everyone thought you were. The sunglasses were just part of my look. They were just part of my look. I knew I was gonna wear the sunglasses regardless on the carpet for some photos and then some without. But yeah, I did hear people yelling.

It wasn't making me almost cry. I think seeing the video back after made me like, damn, like that sucks that that's the energy people are like putting out into like that you would even spend your time camping out standing outside and doing that I just felt like it was it was disrespectful to me to my relationship it just was period the end but I think I've endured so much disrespect and I still do to this day that there was was a part of me that was just like, another day, another negative slay.

I know. It's like so depressing. I know. That, I know. See, that's like a very public example, I feel like, of you having to go through that. Is there anything that comes to mind that was supposed to be a happy moment for you,

for you and Justin, whatever, and it was ruined by harassment or bullying or this concept of his past. They've never ruined anything for me. They've never, they're not ruining my life, they're not ruining my happiness, and that I think is really the win of the whole thing. You're actually not taking anything away from me.

So that's what I just keep stepping forward with. It's like, you can't take this away from me. You cannot take away my happiness, my relationship, my business, my career. Like you just, you can't, you can try and you can be mad about it, but it doesn't change anything is my point. Haley, what do you think the internet wants you to do?

I don't know. I legit don't know. Like if you were trying to get under it, like. I'm like sometimes I joke around, I'm like, would they be happy if I like just moved away and like locked myself in a house and just like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what the goal is That's what's so funny is I'm just like I don't try to understand like what is the goal? I think I would say a lot of the time it's a tent. I think it's a tension

I think a lot of people sometimes they do things and they say things in Hopes to get a response out of you and to get a rise and I've seen it happen with a lot of other people too Like you're ugly and then like you respond and you're like, I wish you the best, I'm sorry you feel that way. And they're like, oh my God, Queen, I'm sorry, I actually love you, I was just being silly. You're like, that was. That wasn't funny.

That wasn't funny at all. Calling me ugly, I guess it is kinda funny because look at you, so fuck off. No, it's just like, what was your point? So then the point is they get the attention that they thought, I think a lot of people think you'll not respond. And I've had that happen before too,

that I didn't think you would see it, I'm sorry. And I'm like, so why are you saying it? Are you just bored? Like, I don't know. Can you try to explain what does it feel like to have millions of people against your relationship? What does that feel like on a day-to-day basis to you? I guess the biggest thing is I think it's sad.

I think it's sad to be against someone's happiness. I think it's sad to not wish somebody well. Who am I supposed to be that would be acceptable? And then that means that I'm living for other people and that means that I'm being a people pleaser which I struggle with a lot. I do want people to like me. It does bother me when people just don't like me simply because of the rumors they've heard or the ideas they've come up with or things that they've seen. Like it makes me sad but I think I've had to come to the point and the realization of like there is no way that you exist as a person especially not as a person with a platform or in

the public eye where everybody loves you. And that's even in life in general, even if I was just in a normal situation, not everybody's gonna like you. I'm just existing in front of a lot of people. So it's very easy to make up your like make decisions about how you feel about someone. Especially when there's so much access to look at them and see what they're doing in their social media, and there's photos and there's just like life. So I don't know. I think that sometimes it feels really heavy.

What has been your lowest moment since all of this began? When things can get really dark and you can start having thoughts of like it not being worth it anymore or not wanting to be here anymore which I have had before in the past and coming out of that I think it's really important a support system is like the most important thing for sure. Maybe if you could talk about like the shame of having those feelings, cause I bet a lot of people listening have had those thoughts and you're,

you're really alone with them and how to even like comprehend them is a process in itself. Sometimes I don't think we can comprehend them on our own because then you just throw yourself back into like a vicious cycle. I do think sometimes you need to express it and you need to go to someone who is gonna feel safe

for you and support you in those thoughts, not make you feel like you're crazy or that you're wrong for feeling dark and deep and heavy. There's also this like kind of weird twisted thing where I'm like, I don't get to feel that way because I have an amazing life and I'm so blessed and I'm so fortunate. So it's almost like my dialogue in my head feels like

get the fuck over it. You don't get to feel that way because there are people in this world that are really struggling and you're not. Like that's sometimes how I feel like I talk to myself because I'm like, get over it, like you're fine. That kind of a thing. And I've had to really try to be more gentle with myself

and like allow myself. I'm somebody who like, I hate crying in front of people. I don't do it. Like, just don't like it and it's been since I was a little kid and I've never understood, I mean I've started to a little bit more in therapy and stuff but I'm like, why do I find it so embarrassing to cry in front of people when it's like everybody cries

and it's such a vulnerable thing but I'm like, it feels so awkward and like cringe to me to cry in front of people and it's always been such an uncomfortable thing for me so like I have when I say I'm like shy and stuff like I have been guarded emotionally in ways since I was like a little girl so I think going through the process of also trying to understand why we have some of the tendencies we have since childhood Like what are the things that have happened to me when I was a little kid that have like brought me to the place of feeling Like I have to have the self-dialogue of like

You don't get to feel that way get the fuck over it people are way worse off than you Which is also like true. There are people who are going through a lot different struggles and different things, but it's the sense of not invalidating the way that I feel. And I'm still working on that and I'm 100% sure that I will be forever working on that. In December, going into the new year, I went to this place that was a like therapy intensive. I was there for seven days, no phone, literally therapy like hours and hours a day and that was something that we spoke about about like tiptoeing around the way I feel

or like not sticking up for myself because again it kind of boils back to like I've never enjoyed confrontation and I think a lot of it comes from my mom is a very sweet woman who is just like an angel. But she, as far as I can remember, she never liked confrontation. And she, I feel like didn't stick up for herself. And at times still to this day, doesn't say what she wants and is like,

I don't wanna do this, I wanna do that. Like she is a very just gentle, kind of reserved, pulled back woman. And there's so much about her that I like super respect, but I think it's just a pattern that I watched growing up of just, she was just very non-confrontational. And there was a lot we didn't talk about. There were subjects we danced around.

And as I've gotten older and had open conversations with my mom and she's expressed things that have happened to her in her life and things that she's gone through that I never knew about, it made me understand why she might be like that. But it's a pattern and it's like a learned behavior, I think a little bit that I am trying to move past and work past.

To close out kind of the chapter of everything we were discussing, what would you say to her fans? Like just coming from your heart, they're all sitting listening to you, having an open mind, let's pretend they had it. What would you say to her fans? I think I would say,

the first thing I would say is, you're not obligated to like me, but I believe that no matter what, there can always be mutual respect between people. And to me, that means just that you don't have to say anything. You don't have to like me but you don't have to say anything either because behind this person that you're looking at on a screen is a person with a brain and a heart and emotions and issues that I face. And so do you.

And so does Alex. And so does every single person in this room. So you just, yeah, I think just mutual respect and decency and know that what you say can have impact. And know that, yeah, I guess that's what I would say. I mean what I want to say would be no I'm just kidding no like that I always made the joke of like I think if I sat down with any of those people and they would walk away being like you know what?

I get it. I respect her for that. I think we will always have more in common than we don't. That's where everything comes from for me. So when I see people being nasty and attacking me, I'm like, we probably like a lot of the same things. One of my last questions on this topic, because I'm just trying to get all of it,

let's wrap it in a bow. Yeah. So you never have to talk about this again, you're like, yeah, I wish. No, I literally never will. No. I'm like sweating. At any point did Justin or any, literally anyone,

ever ask his ex to help put an end to the harassment that her fans put you through? No. What I will say is that she has been in this industry much longer than I have, and maybe there's something that she knows about, like, it wouldn't fix anything. I think like a nice little heart on your TikTok

could end it all. The thing is too, is like, I think that like all, everyone is too, is like, I think that like all, everyone is just trying to like create separation, even though there's clearly like not always separation. I have no expectation. I would never expect someone to do that for me. Like she doesn't owe me anything.

I don't owe, neither of us owe anybody anything except like respect. I respect her a lot. And I think that like, there's just no expectations. If that was something that she felt was necessary, then that would be amazing. But I just, yeah, I respect her. There's no drama personally.

Have you guys ever spoken? Yes. And then like recently, no, I don't guess not recently, but like guys ever spoken? Yes. And then recently? No, I guess not recently, but after your marriage? Yes. So that's why I'm like, it's all respect. It's all love. That's also why I feel like, well,

if everybody on our side knows what happened and we're good, and we could walk away from it with clarity and respect, then like, that's fine. As long as you know you're good, that's really all that matters. Which had brought me a lot of peace. And I'm like, hey, we know what happened. It is what it is.

You're never gonna be able to like correct every narrative and there's gonna be new ones that come. You're never gonna be able to correct every narrative. And there's gonna be new ones that come. It's never gonna end. And that's why I get to the point where I'm like, that's why I didn't speak about a lot of this stuff. Because I'm like, there'll be something new. There'll probably be something new from this interview. Oh, of course.

Then I'm just like. You don't wanna know what's gonna come from this interview? Hailey Bieber talking about sex. Great. Hayley Bieber talking about sex. Great. Hayley Bieber. Yes. Welcome to Call Her Daddy. You're like, we've been sitting here for an hour. Hailey Bieber. Yes.

Welcome to Call Her Daddy. You're like, we've been sitting here for an hour. She's like, we're starting over. We're scrapping the whole thing. No. I need to give the fans what they want, right? We need to just give them a little taste, right? Walk me through, I can't say this on your face, walk me through step by step your sex with Justin Bieber.

Oh my God. I was gonna try to do it so straight face that you're like, this girl's a fucking psycho. No, I was wondering, did anyone ever ask you about your sex life? No, actually. We're the first ones over here. I don't think so.

Are you a morning sex or night sex people? More so night. Me too. But I do like morning too. It's so funny cause I talk about this stuff and the reason I get weird about talking about it is cause I'm like, my parents are gonna listen to this. There's something that feels so cringe

about your parents. Hopefully they don't make it this far. Your parents are probably really progressive and like. True Hailey, but I grew up fully Catholic. Okay. So my parents like really, Call Her Daddy really like, I went from zero to like,

oh my God, what is she doing? Yeah. But they get over it. See this is your introduction to like, I married, I've had sex. I also have this theory that people like don't care about married people's sex. I'm sorry, you two are the hottest people in the world. Absolutely we all care. I feel like I'm like, I don't think anybody cares.

Oh, I care. Okay, so you're night sex people, we love that. Okay, this is so graphic, but I'm saying the words. For the rest of your life, you have to pick one of the two. From Mr. Bieber, are you going to be fingered or eaten out? For the rest of your life, you can only take one. That's very hard. Cause I feel like it's always a combination.

Has anyone ever tried to have a threesome with you? Like in our relationship? No. Would you be down? No. It's funny because I feel like those ideas can be really fun and sound really exciting. I think at the point of inside of our, it doesn't work for the two of us. We personally, that wouldn't work for the two of us. Because I think sometimes for some people it does.

So I've heard. Some people are in like open relationships and like it works for a time but I feel like in the end it always doesn't end up working. So I think the second you make the decision to do that there is never going back from that and I just don't know that I would ever be willing to like, we've worked very hard. We've worked very hard to like be in the space that we're in now and like Trusting each other and there's like such a beautiful trust and bond that I just don't think that's something I would be comfortable with Or him for that matter. Can you expand a little bit on how you guys built that trust and that bond? Um, he's really honest like brutally honest overly honest I could ask him about any person any past girl anything and he'd be like brutally honest, overly honest. I could ask him about any person, any past girl, anything,

and he'd be like, oh yeah, like this, this, this, and this. Like he doesn't have a problem being explicit, and I think that made me trust him a lot, because I'm like, there's nothing I don't know. Because you can tell when someone's being shady, and then when you have someone. If they dance around, or like, he's had people like DM him, and he'll be like, oh, like, show me the DMs,

like do you, and he'll like be like, do you think that DMs. And he'll be like, do you think that this person's trying to be nice? Or you think this is weird? And I'm like, I think it's weird. No, it's like he knows. He's just saying, do you think this person is genuine? Because it'll come across super friendly. And I'm just like, there's just no reason.

There's no reason you need to have a relationship. Yeah, that's cute. But I'm also someone where I really encourage female friendships. Because I think that you need to have a relationship. There's no, yeah, that's cute. But I'm also someone where I really encourage female friendships, because I think that you have to be able to have healthy, opposite sex relationships that are friendships, or else you're closing yourself off all the time, and it's like.

But you're not having Instagram models walk around your house. No, of course, I'm just saying, of course there's boundaries with everything, but I'm just saying, don't be afraid to have girlfriends. Totally, right, because it's like, if'm just saying, of course there's boundaries with everything, but I'm just saying, don't be afraid to have girlfriends. Totally, right, because if you can't, it's like, oh my god, like you should.

If I couldn't have friends that were guys, I think you control what the limitations are in any relationship, in any friendship, in any work relationship. You can have self-restraint. Yeah, for sure. Do you have people still in your DMs? No. You're like, I am just a married woman thriving.

I don't have people hitting me up in my DMs. I'll slide in. OK, do you and Justin have the same favorite positions? I think so. It's not like I'm like, I strictly like this one thing and he strictly likes another thing. Can you give us like one or two or five? It's always different.

Okay, yeah. It's always something different. You're moving it around. Yeah, well, no, I mean like one day it might be one thing, one day it might be another thing. Oh, I actually didn't even mean that too. I was like, you're doing 10 positions in one night. She's like, he's flipping you upside down one second.

No, no, so you guys are not set on one position. No. You guys have a couple go-to's. No, no, no, no, no. But I think with my boyfriend, I have now like our go-to like three. I feel like every couple has those like go-to's. Yeah.

Do you wanna give us one? And it can't be missionary. It's definitely not missionary. I really like doggy style. You heard it here. That was beautiful, Hailey. What is the sexiest thing Justin does to turn you on? You know, it can be so many different things.

It can be like a connection thing. It can be a physical thing. For me, kissing is a big deal. Like that's a, that's a big thing for me. It always has been just like in my life before I was married. So I would say that is probably the most. What is the sexiest thing you do that turns him on or what's his thing that he always says like, Oh oh god like Haley

Like he like gets him going The connection point is very important to him of like we could literally just be like laying down Talking before and like just having like a really fun conversation and like that is really Important for him. Yeah, okay I'm gonna tell you something that I think is super sexy about you that turns me on is voting. Yes! Voting is hot! Yes, voting is so sexy. Yeah. It's so sexy. Justin can't vote here, but... Oh, well he'll be supportive of us both voting, okay? He's very... And there are so

many people that listen to this show and this airs in September, we have a huge election in November and I just think it would be great to use the end of this episode and use this platform and our platforms to just emphasize why it's important to vote and just how much everyone needs to get out there.

So why is voting in this year's election important to you, Hailey? It's important to me because I think as everybody knows, we're in a very scary state in our country. We as women are living through a very terrifying reality right now. And I think what we've learned, what I took away in a big way from the overturn of Roe v. Wade was the people that we elect in our states, in our cities, in our counties, they are so important. And that was something that I was like, shit,

like this is really the reality, we gotta get on it. I felt very passionate the last election about just please get him out of there like that was like it felt like legit like life or death and it and it was in so many ways and I still feel that even even more now because you've seen there's still so many terrible, scary things happening within our country, but I do think there's a chance for change. And I always think there's an opportunity for change and there's an opportunity to come together

and stand up and make a difference. You've been open about the fact that people in your family have different political views than you. And I think that's probably the most relatable thing we'll talk about on the podcast today. And I think so many people can relate to that. How did you navigate that? Cause it can get heated.

Yeah, it was tricky, especially very personally, like my dad, my parents, it just got to a point where I found that we couldn't discuss it, which I think is okay. I believe what I believe. I am a fully formed woman now, 25 turning 26. I know what I believe in and what I don't. I know what I stand for and what I don't.

And obviously it's disappointing that the people that raised you could think so differently than you and have such a different perception that sounds crazy and you're just like, how did I come from you then? I just don't get this. But it just causes too much disturbance and turmoil and argumentative back and forth that it's just like, it just can't be talked about. You're not gonna change people.

And it's funny, because me and my sister have the same exact point of view, which is like nice because at least I'm like, at least I got you. At least, thank God. And then my mom, I'll try to talk to her about something. She's like, I'm from Brazil, so I'm like, okay. My mom's from Brazil, by the way. Oh my god no I

appreciate that I think it's always good to just one normalize people are gonna have different views but I do think regardless like just get out and vote because it is so important this year specifically. For sure and it's not something that I even you know the last election of super vocal about it I plan to do that every single time It's something that I'm passionate about for sure so I appreciate you bringing it up Haley Bieber Thank you so much for coming on caller daddy. I really appreciate you opening up You don't do a lot of long-form interviews, so I appreciate you trusting me and sitting down of course. Thank you I think I had an expectation where I know coming on here with you long-form interviews, so I appreciate you trusting me and sitting down with me. Of course, thank you.

I think I had an expectation where I know coming on here with you, you're gonna go there. That's just the reality of the situation. I wouldn't have agreed to it if I didn't know that was the case here. I think there's a lot that I've avoided speaking on for a long time that it is my life, so I should be able to say what I want about it. You go

there in certain contexts where it's like I've not gone before and I think that that's like a personal challenge to myself that I want I wanted to like push myself to like you know it's okay to be like I was uncomfortable multiple times in this conference. My feet are inside of the couch. Because I was like, how many like protective body positions did I get into? I folded like a pretzel. What happens in New York, Hailey? To be honest, I really was always a very level-headed young person, but I definitely had my moment where I went to New York, I started going out to the club.

That's just what happens when, I mean, I guess it's not just what happens. You move to New York, you're going to the club. But I got introduced to nightlife and going out and drinking and I definitely had my moments of that was my time, probably 18 to... I swear by the time I turned 21, I was like, ugh, I'm over drinking. Do you remember the first time you got drunk? Was it a disaster? Yes. The first time I got drunk, I was like, oh my I'm over drinking. Do you remember the first time you got drunk? Was it a disaster? Yes.

The first time I got drunk, I was like, oh my God, this is so funny. I was 16? Yeah, I think I was 16 and I used to be a dancer, like I said before. And I think we had like a recital and one of my friends who I danced with, she had like the best house for like sleepovers

because she had like the dope basement. So we would go in the basement, shut the door, the parents would never come down, so we would take all the alcohol and just get drunk in the basement. The two of you? No, it was multiple girls, all the girls from our dance school.

And the first time I really remember getting drunk, I didn't throw up, which is surprising. That one time I didn't throw up. Thrown up multiple times from drinking. But that one time I remember crawling on the floor because I could not walk, could not stand up straight, and I was just mixing everything because I didn't know what to drink so I

Can never if you made me smell Siroc birthday cake vodka right now. So we're like fed cub birthday cake pinnacle pinnacle pinnacle and you would just bomb if you made me smell that right now, I would Proceed to fall into a dark hole. Like I would trigger me. That was what we were drinking and then like mixing it with like a beer and like a Mike's heart and like all this crazy.

Like the fact that I didn't throw up is a miracle. But I remember waking up the next day and I was so hungover. And I called my cousin who was like staying with us at the time who I was really close to I am really close to And I was like hey, she was older than me. I was like, can you pick me up from her house? I don't want my mom to like pick me up because I had moments with my mom where I'd like go to a party or something And I would have had like a couple sips of a drink and she would get in the car and she would smell my breath

So I'm like, I can't have my mom pick me up right now. She's gonna know. And my friends asked me to take all the empties and find somewhere to throw them out because she didn't want her mom to find them. So my cousin comes to get me, I take all the bags of empties, we pull over into an Olive Garden parking lot and find a dumpster, throw it in the dumpster, and I'm sitting in the car with her,

and I was like, I need you to take me to church like I have to go to youth group that was like where I thought I needed to be because I felt so I just felt bad I felt like I did something so wrong like I got like wasted and I'm hung over I just felt like hell so I was like I need I need Jesus like I need to go and that's like legit how I felt like I gotta go to like church church. I need Jesus. Like I need to go. And that's like legit how I felt. I was like, I gotta go to like church. And then I remember I went to like youth group and I was so hung over at the youth group that I was like, oh my God, I gotta go home.

Like I can't be here right now. But that was like what my instinct was. Like I gotta go. I gotta go to youth group after I get hammered for the first time in the basement. It's a classic. Classic. I feel like you are the sweetest angel. And then there's... No, that's what's so funny

about like me moving into New York City. It would be like Friday night I was like in Up and Down taking shots and then I was like going to church on Sunday, which I think is like so fine. I don't see like a problem with that. It's just the juxtaposition is really funny. The fact that you just referenced Up and Down in New York, I think I've had the most disgusting, ratchet, amazing, awful nights of my life in up and down, like ruin your life, but also like great night. Many, many a traumatizing moment and great moment in up and down.

I had a couple of awful nights at Marquis, but like up and down specifically, you're like, God bless, thank you. Oh, Marquis. What was the one on the roof? PhD. Oh PhD. Haley, you're like a normal human

going to the ratchet spots, I'm obsessed. From, I lived, that was where I was from, I lived there. Do you and Justin like go out and have fun still? Are you able to do that? Oh okay. We went out last night to Delilah, which was fun. There you go. Yeah, I think definitely both of us

do not turn up the way we used to, just simply because it's never worth the way you feel. Absolutely not. I feel like now I get hung over by accident. Like I wasn't trying to, it was just like that last glass of wine, you shouldn't have done it. It's hard for me, when I was 18 to 20,

I felt like I was drinking four times my body weight and was fine. A full water bottle of vodka would be in my system and I'd be like, I'm cruising through the night. I would wake up the next day, give me a bacon, egg and cheese and a blue Gatorade and I'm fine. Hailey, did you rip that for me?

Because that is my order, please and thank you. In New York, you go to a fucking bodega. I had to get a bagel and a York, you go to a fucking bodega. I had to get a bagel and a blue, it had to be blue gatorade though. Blue gatorade, always. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The only.

Bacon, egg, and cheese on a croissant, blue gatorade. You're back. You're fine. Thriving, never been better.