Call Her Daddy - How to Deal with Mean Girls

Episode Date: November 5, 2023

Join Father Cooper for a Sunday Session where she answers all kinds of questions from the Daddy Gang. Alex breaks down whether or not you should ask your fiance if they cheated on you before the engag...ement or let it ride. She also gives her honest take on “once a cheater, always a cheater” and begs the Daddy Gang to stop romanticizing unhealthy relationships. In this episode, Alex also talks about friendships - when to cut out surface level friends, how she has personally seen her own friendships evolve over the years, how to handle when your partner’s friends have an attitude, and how to deal with a mean girl. Get ready, Daddy Gang, because this episode is FULL of wisdom and advice.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am going to answer some questions. I'm going to answer some questions, babe. I am going to answer. Do you guys remember when I did the Terminator voice? I always worry I'm going to blow all of your ears out. Let me lower my volume because I think it's really important that when we are thinking about our life, when we're thinking about our future, when we're thinking about a question, a question of the motherfucking week.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Questions of the motherfucking week, baby. Chuck, Dan, Dorota, Serena. It's questions down, down. Chuck, Noel, Lily, Blair. It's questions, it's questions of the week. Sunday morning, Father's calling. Every Sunday's Father's Day. sunday morning fight this carlin do do do do do do do every sunday's for this day that was pretty good right you guys have a lot of good questions and i'm about to answer them for you so let's get into it the first question is me and my husband have been married for seven months, but previously dating for four and a half years.
Starting point is 00:01:27 When we were freshly dating, we were both degenerates. Should I ask my husband if he cheated on me while we were dating? There are still things that I question. Is this something I should talk to him about or go to therapy about, considering we're married and I never did anything about it back then? Ooh, girl. Immediately, my first reaction to this is like, you love this person, but there's nothing fucking worse than when you have something weighing on you specifically. It's about your partner. My favorite moment is if I
Starting point is 00:02:02 have a problem with anyone else in the world but my partner, because then I can sit down with Matt and I put a chicken parm in front of his face and I'm like, baby, get ready because I'm about to talk about this for two fucking hours and I need your advice. And he will sit there and we will talk this problem into the ground together. From my experience, you feel like shit when you have something that you want to talk to your partner about and you don't know how to bring it up I dealt with this a lot in the beginning of my relationship with Matt what do I bring up what do I not bring up and I always realized that there is a way that you can bring it up that is not attacking and is not you being like accusatory that he cheated, but there's a way that you can actually come from it more of like, I need to talk about this selfishly.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I don't know why it's upsetting me so much and I just need to get it off my chest. And then you allow your partner to know, like this kind of is actually not as much about like, if you did cheat on me back when we were dating or you didn't, it's actually like, I need to say this out loud. And then as a couple, we're gonna decide how we're gonna handle this so if i was you i would tell him if you don't ever acknowledge it you're never gonna get your
Starting point is 00:03:12 answer and this is the person you're spending the rest of your life with this is different if you're just like fucking with a fuck boy and you're like babe don't bring it up like this relationship's gonna be over in fucking three minutes anyways like let's keep it moving like know where you're gonna waste your breath okay and this is not you wasting your breath. This is actually you getting closure on something that is clearly upsetting you. So I'm going to pretend I'm talking to Matt. I would be like, Matt, I need to talk to you about something. And I want to first preface this with, I don't know why this thought keeps coming up for me. And it's just been so frustrating and annoying because it will come up in random moments and I can't help but think about it. And then I kind of spiral and I want to just talk to you about it because whatever the answer is, I want to be able to handle this with you because
Starting point is 00:04:06 I don't I can't keep just like holding this in inside back in the day when we were dating I know we were both degenerates and we were kind of like doing our own thing and we were together but we were like who knows what was happening I don't even know where to go after this answer but I just want you to answer honestly and then again we can move forward and figure out how we work through that during our relationship dating was there ever a point that you did hook up with someone else if he said yes I don't know are you gonna leave like that's on you I don't know but I I would just say sometimes when we have something in our brain that we've been like ruminating on before I got into like good therapy I would just be like, something's been really annoying me lately
Starting point is 00:04:45 and I need to know, did you cheat on me when we were dating? That just comes off so aggressive and you're not giving the person across from you the understanding of where you're coming from. So I think setting the scene always with your partner is the best opportunity for you to actually resolve things. And who knows, maybe you don't wanna resolve things. Maybe if he did cheat, you're like, I know then that like I'm out by you setting up a healthy
Starting point is 00:05:11 situation. You're going to then know for yourself, you're probably going to get an honest answer because you basically were like, I actually don't care the answer right away. I just need an answer. Whether it's yes, 15 women I fucked or no I just need to know then I don't know where we go from there but just tell me the truth but listen I'm gonna be real there is nothing more unsettling than being in a relationship and wondering if your partner is cheating on you or cheated on you I have dealt with it where I felt like I was going fucking crazy because you're like so intertwined in your lives with this person and you personally can't fathom going outside and being with someone else other than the partner that you're committed
Starting point is 00:05:58 to. And then you start to question their character. Like, oh my God, if they're capable of that, like, are they that sneaky? Like, do I trust them? And then you start to go down a rabbit hole. It's better to just nip it in the butt and bring this up to him, daddy, because you are going to, you won't get the closure. Sure. You can go to a therapist and work on it. If you have just like trust issues from like your past or your family members. But I think if you're in a healthy relationship, the best thing to do is just ask him, ask him, but give him the space to not feel threatened that there is going to be some retaliation or there's going to be a big blow up screaming fight. I so understand that it will hurt if he says yes. I so't imagine. I cannot imagine if I found that out about Matt. Like I don't even know what I would do. But what I do know is you decided to marry this man.
Starting point is 00:06:52 There's so many things you love about this man and you don't have any issues right now thinking he's cheating. It's this one period of your life and we all fuck up, right? So maybe he's going to say yes. But after that, I knew like you're the love my life and I never wanted to do it again and I haven't like who knows but you gotta ask so that's my um that's my advice it's questions it's questions he cheated on me does he deserve a second chance my ex of two years cheated on me in the last four months of our relationship. He started dating the girl he cheated on me with right after we broke up. Oh, that's rough.
Starting point is 00:07:32 He kept reaching out during the months after, and I finally set a firm boundary so that he didn't try to cheat on her with me. I really miss him and our relationship, and he's still reaching out. Do you believe in once a cheater, always a cheater, or does he deserve a second chance? Babe, what do you mean? Do you believe in once a cheater, always a cheater? He's literally texting you as he's in a relationship. I don't believe in once a cheater, always a cheater. I don't. I think people can change, but he's literally showing you he hasn't
Starting point is 00:08:06 changed because he's texting you while he has a new fucking girlfriend. Like we have to get out of our heads and stop telling ourselves what we want to hear and just look at the facts. He cheated on you with this woman. He's now dating this woman. And while he's now in a relationship with this woman, he's now texting you. And if you get back with him guess what he's gonna do he's gonna text her like we're playing ping pong bitch he wants his fucking cake and he wants to eat it too and he should not be able to do that you saying you tried to cut it off and set a boundary and then he kept texting you another red flag like you literally are trying to be respectful to this woman that literally was the reason for your breakup sorry I want to clarify she wasn't the reason for your breakup
Starting point is 00:08:49 he was but he cheats with this woman and now while he's with this woman you're like I don't want him to be another cheater so stop texting me and he's still texting you babe in this case once a cheater, always a cheater. You can't trust a man that's just gonna do it again. Let me give you a little insight. There is supreme, supreme dick out there. There are some men that you will be shocked that will treat you right. Okay, girl, you can miss an ex. You should miss an ex. If you gave all of your all into a relationship, you should miss that person. That's a natural human instinct. Even if they fucked you over,
Starting point is 00:09:40 it would be crazy. And we're just lying to ourselves. We can lie to our friends being like, bitch, I don't miss him. You miss him because you gave yourself to someone. You were intimate with someone. You shared things with someone. Like when you're dating someone, most of the time, unless you're in a really unhealthy relationship, this person knows so much about you and you know so much about them that even when they do fucked up shit, there's a little part of you that still knows that human side of them that you fell in love with. And, there's a little part of you that still knows that human side of them that you fell in love with. And so it's normal to miss someone. But what it's not normal to do, no, it is normal to do, but I'm going to try to unnormalize it, is romanticize the good parts of the past and completely forget about the negative. If you went back to that man
Starting point is 00:10:21 tomorrow, he has not changed. He's showing you he didn't change because he's literally fucking texting you while he's in a relationship and so to think anything else other than the truth and the facts and what this man is literally showing you kind of shame on you i get it babe i've gone back to the toxic like oh let's slide back in let's get back in there but there it wasn't lost on me that I knew it was a wild decision but I knew I was putting myself back in there I wasn't like oh you guys he's gonna change for me this time even though he cheated on me last time he's not gonna do it again no I knew I know for myself at one point it was closure for myself to like feel like I had some type of power in this
Starting point is 00:11:05 dynamic whatever it is but babe he's not going to change so if your partner cheated on you and he's now an ex the only way to reevaluate I personally believe with someone is like time away from that person and then actually knowing what they were up to in that time and when you come back to them if you ever do reunite like is there anything different about this person? Or are you just pretending to see different things because you miss that feeling and you just want to get back? Half the time, we're just pulled to the feeling that we think we miss. And then the minute you're back in it, you're like, wait, I hate this feeling. Wait, I completely romanticized that when I was laying in bed staring at the wall being like oh my god but like I know he fucked up but like I miss him and like
Starting point is 00:11:51 we had the best sex and like oh it was so like fiery and like so much passion no babe that is just like toxic you're mistaking like fiery passion for toxic it's questions it's questions I have a friend that did something that i really strongly disagree with her character is starting to show and i'm starting to realize how different our values are she's still super fun friend to go out with but i don't know where to draw the line do you have any experience with this is she worth keeping as a fun friend or should i think about cutting her off? This is kind of difficult because I feel like I've gone through a lot of different phases with friends in terms of
Starting point is 00:12:30 like what I am willing to put up with and what I think is worth sticking around for. When I was living in New York City and I wasn't in a serious relationship, I had a lot of girlfriends that were kind of like party friends when the weekend came around I was like these are my fun friends or this is my one girlfriend that I always love to like go get drinks with and party with and go find boys with I think the issue really is where are you at in your life then I could answer that because I think it's important to have fun friends when you're at a certain point in your life where you want to be social and you maybe whether you're in a relationship and you feel like you need to have some independence and you want to get back out there. You want to have fun with a friend. Maybe they're your girlfriend that you love to go get
Starting point is 00:13:20 drinks with and just catch up with like or you're single and you need someone that is on that same wavelength as you right but I think when you get to a certain point in your life where maybe you are have a really stable set relationship you have your go-to best friends and you are in a place where you're just like really focusing on the future like what do I want to build for myself I think that's when the fun friends kind of become less of a priority because I feel like as I've started to grow up I prioritize the relationships in my life so much differently now. If I'm going to have a free Saturday, I'm going to spend it either with Matt because we've been both so busy that we're like ships in the night some weeks that like we barely see each other. I'm going to spend that with Matt or I'm going to do a FaceTime date with my four best girlfriends, one of them,
Starting point is 00:14:22 and I'm going to call them and like I'm going'm gonna catch up on their life I'm not as interested at this point in my life and maybe going to the bar or going to see a friend that's gonna be kind of surface level that's probably when those type of relationships for me personally I've felt them in the past like two years kind of dissipate a little bit not that I don't fully keep in touch but like the effort has waned off because it's like this relationship was so good when we both needed it but it's kind of not servicing either of us because I don't need at this point in my life to go out for fun with someone that I don't really emotionally connect with or have deep conversations with I have fun with Matt I have fun with Matt. I have fun with my family. I have fun with Matt's family. Like there's just different shit. You know what I mean? And so I would say to you,
Starting point is 00:15:12 you just have to be protective of your energy. Like I never would have cut those people off in New York, nor did I even think about it because I needed friends that were fun and light and we didn't really have that many serious deep conversations because I didn't want to I wasn't at a point in my life where I really cared if we had like the exact same values you know like the relationship was to have fun and to go out and to drink go to a a Pilates class together. I never did that, but maybe you do that. Okay. Like, I think that we're kind of trained as women to like, feel bad if a friendship no longer serves us anymore. And it's like, be a girl's girl, like keep, keep them in your life. Like that's not what a girl's girl means. Just because they
Starting point is 00:16:01 are a girl and have a vagina, you're not going to be like oh my god you just did this awful thing but like i'm a girl's girl i defend you girl like love peace love happiness like it's just that's not how it goes being a girl's girl is like supporting women obviously because we're at a fucking disadvantage but it doesn't mean like in these moments that you can't objectively look at the situation and say, is this relationship filling me up? Does this relationship make me feel good? That has nothing to do with like, oh, you're a bitch because you don't be friends with her anymore. That's you just taking care of your mental health and yourself and also prioritizing your life. There's not enough fucking time in the day, guys. Like literally I had so many people that I would just text and text and text in my twenties. And I loved those friends, but like that, those relationships were all based off of history of
Starting point is 00:16:55 like, Oh my God, our college days together. But like, we barely spoke about anything other than reminiscing on college, which is fine. Feeling like the constant need to have to reach out and connect and connect. You don't need to do that. You can have thoughtful moments where you reconnect with someone every few months and catch up, but you don't need to be spending your time being like, oh my God, well, I have to go to that dinner tonight. If you don't want to go to a dinner, don't go to a dinner with someone. Be selfish. You have to be selfish. If you're not getting anything out of that again it's different when friendships it's like babe you got to be there for your friend I know she's going through it and you don't feel like listening to her bitch about the xyz that was happening in
Starting point is 00:17:34 her life this past week whether it's a breakup or a family thing that's just being a good fucking friend is knowing when you got to just sit down and be there but on the day-to-day if you're not getting anything out of a relationship, I think there's something beautiful about friendships ending. That means that you're growing and that that doesn't negate the fact that it was such a great friendship at the time or it was just like a good fun relationship at the time. But just because you you spent time with someone, it doesn't mean that that person needs to continue into the next phase of your life. If anything, it's healthier to just like recognize what it is and move on.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Be selfish with your time and don't feel bad for doing that. Okay, next. topic mean girls your partner being friends with people who don't like you. Break up with him. He's not allowed to hang out with them. Hi, daddy. How do you deal with your boyfriend being friends with people who don't like you slash talk behind your back and you don't like them back either? Probably hate them. They've never made an effort towards me and I genuinely don't like them. My boyfriend just doesn't see the fact how this could bother me. Please help. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I wish I had a little bit more context. Like, is it his best friend? Is it his family? Is it like a random group of people he goes on Sunday to like day drink with? Like, who are these people? I have dealt with this before. I think there's two sides to this. I dealt with this actually with Matt in the beginning of our relationship.
Starting point is 00:19:26 There are some people that I didn't feel respected me when I first came around. I feel like in the past few years I've gotten so much better. But like when I started dating Matt, I was like a loose cannon. Like if you're going to be a bitch to me, I'm coming back right at you and I'm gonna say something like I have never ever been able to hold my tongue if someone's being mean to me or one of my friends I'm going to rip your face off with my words although I'm not ever going to initiate it if you come for me or someone I love I will come for you I have dealt with it with Lauren where Lauren's like oh my god don't say it don't say it and I'm like let me just fucking let you because if someone's being an especially if someone's being a fucking dick to your friend that's almost worse than if they come for you
Starting point is 00:20:14 like I'm like oh I will ruin so I dealt with this in the beginning I knew Matt and my relationship was not just this like fair-weathered thing that was gonna be like maybe we will be together for like a year like I knew I was probably gonna to marry this man and so I definitely took a different approach with the way that even if I was being disrespected I was more tame and not as reactionary as much as I love the Leo fiery side of myself I have learned that a lot of times people don't deserve your energy. There was something beautiful whenever I would go out and these certain people would like kind of make like snarky comments about my job and like my show and like just be dicks. And instead of being like, Oh, we, and so like, how's your job going? Like, I heard you just got fired. Like, oh, we and so like, how's your job going? Like, I heard you just got fired. Like, what are you going to do now?
Starting point is 00:21:05 Like, instead of being a dick back, I would just sit there and smile and drink and be like, yeah, everything's good. Like, or just go along with it. I'd be like, yeah, like, it's so crazy like that. My show does that. Like, yeah, it's so crazy. It's really crazy. Like, I would just agree with them and
Starting point is 00:21:25 I would just sit there and there's something kind of fun about when someone is trying to dig at you just being like I literally don't care because if you think about it I think when I was in high school or something when people were bullying me or being dicks to me I I try I got really good at combating assholes like I was like I will never feel like I can't stand up for myself again because there were so many moments in elementary school and in high school that I stood there and wanted to cry and just had to take it and was silent and I wanted to throw up and I would run to the bathroom and then I would cry because whether it was a girl or a guy being mean to me I was like oh my god and I would run to the bathroom and then I would cry because whether it was a girl or a guy being mean to me, I was like, oh my God. And I feel like towards the end of high school, I started to just let it rip. I just started, if you're going to come for me and
Starting point is 00:22:13 my friends, I'm going to fucking let it rip. And there were some girls in high school and we would beef when they came for me, I just blew the house down. I didn't feel bad because I'm like, if you came for me first, but that's kind of just like an immature way of looking at things. I think that my advice to you is like, what are these people saying and how mean are they being to you and how important are they to your partner's life? And there's like a tier system because they are important. Of course, you can make a comment and you should make a comment to your boyfriend. I know it's something I respect about Matt is he's always been so protective of me. And most of the rooms that we were in when I moved to Los Angeles, I didn't have any friends.
Starting point is 00:22:59 All of my friends live on the East Coast. My brother lives here now and some of my other friends moved here. But in the beginning, I was pretty isolated and alone and matt recognized that that most of the time that we were out it was with his crew and his people and he was really receptive to whenever i was like hey that was awkward that was objectively fucking awkward and like i don't i don't get it and he would be like i know i know what i did say though is like i never had matt say anything I don't, I don't get it. And he would be like, I know, I know. What I did say though, is like, I never had Matt say anything. I don't know if this is the right advice. I honestly don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:29 I don't know the correct advice to give you. Again, I don't have that many details of your situation. But what I would say is I never had Matt say anything because there was kind of this weird power once I acknowledged it with Matt. And once Matt sat with me and talked with me about it it kind of just became this like inside joke of a game between us and it kind of like I said I would get to these dinners and this woman would just be say the rudest shit to my face and I would just be pounding my dirty martini being like oh my god totally like it's so
Starting point is 00:24:05 embarrassing like my job is such a joke like it is so crazy and I would just laugh and be like yeah oh god you know my parents are they almost disowned me you know like it's wild wild anyways how are you tell me everything wait let's show me pictures of like your family like and Matt would just be squeezing my thigh under the table and there was something kind of just like fun about being like it's not that deep it hurts trust me but I don't know there's just something like when you're confident enough in yourself of like I can relate in high school to be an asshole because I was so uncomfortable with myself and not didn't feel good and when people came for me it was like I'm gonna rip your face off now I just don't have I don't have that in me I don't have enough energy to even pick the things that I would want to go at this person for
Starting point is 00:24:59 like I don't care like I don't think of you we're at a dinner I I don't I don't know like I don't care. Like I don't think of you. We're at a dinner. I don't I don't know. Like I don't care enough to be hateful towards people anymore. Like that's just not the vibe. I hear what you're saying. And I think the only thing I would give advice for is my concern is that your partner doesn't see how the fact that it bothers you. That is where I have empathy for you because if you're not at least aligned with your partner where you're like doing what Matt and I are doing, we're really kicking each other under the table being like, oh my God, here she goes again or here he goes again. Then you are isolated and you are alone and that is not fucking cool. And I feel for you on that because I have been in relationships where that's happened to me too.
Starting point is 00:25:48 And you're kind of stuck in a weird situation. And I kind of think it becomes a little bit bigger than just like friends are being mean to you. I think this is a bigger conversation for you to have with your partner. It's like even sometimes if I'm wrong, Matt has my back. Matt is going to stand up for me no matter what. And then in private, it can be like a bitch. Like, what the fuck was that? You're crazy. But like, I've got your back, but like, what the fuck Alex? And I'm like, oh shit, I don't know. And vice versa. I will stand in a room and I will be Matt's number one supporter. If someone's going at him, like I'm
Starting point is 00:26:19 going to be more likely to stand up for him. And I just, I just worry that if your partner can't defend you and and empathize with you that someone's coming for you I don't know I don't know if I could personally be in a relationship like that because when I'm in a relationship I want to trust my partner and I want to know that as much as I care about them they they care about me. And I can imagine you're feeling like shit because you're not feeling like he cares. You're not feeling like he gives a fuck. If you're publicly being humiliated and you're getting talked about and you're feeling small and you're sitting in this room while he's making jokes with people and you're just like, yeah, and those two people over there just fully whispering about me and I feel so uncomfortable. There's something
Starting point is 00:27:03 kind of beautiful about setting boundaries for yourself. Even if you know people are going to know, don't go next time. Make a statement. Like stay home, turn on fucking Netflix, play your most cozy comfort show, put on Grey's Anatomy, put on Gilmore Girls, put on Gossip Girl, have a spa day do your fucking face care routine bitch shave your legs shave your v shave your armpits do whatever you need to read a book oh my god guys I've been reading so many romance novels lately find the things that make you happy and the next time that your partner asks you to go to this thing be like you know what babe I'm in a pass I've shared with you why I don't feel comfortable around this
Starting point is 00:27:45 group. They make fun of me. They're mean to me. And I obviously see that you don't see that. So until you do see that, I probably don't feel comfortable hanging out with them because the one person in the room that I at least want to be able to grab and feel safe with isn't there for me in these moments. So, and then if he doesn't fucking come around like babe I don't know I think you kind of you got to reevaluate the relationship at whatever phase in your life there's nothing more embarrassing for someone that's trying to be mean to you than you just sitting there and either just being silent and asking like I've always said that my father always told me if someone's being an asshole to you you look at them after they finish you pause for a long time and you just look at them and you say what's your point it's the
Starting point is 00:28:29 same thing with people in the comments like if people are commenting mean things on your instagram or if people are messaging things about you like bitch why are you so pressed about my life like like can't relate don't know anything about you don't don't think about you love the time you're putting into thinking about me and like that should make you feel good like there is something weirdly about just like knowing people like good or bad like they're thinking about you babe and you don't think about them so if you don't think about them let them just keep on churning out hours of their life thinking about you when you're not stressed, bitch. We're fucking reading our romance novels,
Starting point is 00:29:12 shaving our fucking legs, and like working on ourselves. You have the right to remove yourself from anything that makes you feel uncomfortable. And specifically, ladies, please listen to me on this. Anything that makes you feel uncomfortable or any social situation that you don't feel positive about that makes you get anxiety over, that stresses you out, that makes you feel less than, that makes you feel small, remove yourself. You do not have to engage with these people. If you can physically remove yourself, yes, remove yourself. But I more mean emotionally remove yourself like there is nothing better than when someone is trying to
Starting point is 00:29:50 be mean to you and be an asshole to you and you just like you just check out sometimes the delusion of just like silence and not giving a fuck is so golden. Daddy gang, we don't have time for fucking cunts. We don't. And I will say the moment you know that you don't have time for fucking mean girls or cunts anymore is when you actually are okay letting them be dicks to you and you indulge in it and you just sit there and you're literally like, huh? Anyways, my braids are coming out. My hair is soaking wet. So I'm going to go blow dry my hair because i have to go to a meeting i'm deadying i love you i'm so happy that we get to do questions of the week in the sunday session i think something that is really important is just having a standard for yourself and setting it in every fucking arena of your life relationship friendship work and i know
Starting point is 00:30:38 it's hard trust me sometimes it requires a large amount of like internal confidence and even if you're faking it once you start to implement these things in your lives and set boundaries you're gonna be so much fucking happier I promise you because I'm in the middle of doing it and I can't believe the way that I used to get affected by things versus now I'm like, who gives a fuck what people think about us? Literally, who cares? Who cares? We're all going to fucking die. I want to be happy with myself, be happy with the people that matter in my life. And that's all I really fucking care about. When I meet people, I'm showing up and trying to be a nice fucking person. I'm not trying to tear people down. That's what my vibe is. And so if people are doing that, ew, get away from me. I don't need the energy. And if you are going to be at my tour, just know
Starting point is 00:31:32 I fucking love you guys. And I'm going to be so hype and we are going to scream so loud and we're going to drink so much and we're going to party and there's going to be a lot of different things happening. So, um, you know, the motherfucking drill. I will see you fuckers this Wednesday. Goodbye.

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