Call Her Daddy - Lil Dicky: Learning to Love My Dick (FBF)
Episode Date: August 30, 2024Dave Burd (AKA Lil Dicky) joins Call Her Daddy to discuss the evolution of his dating and sex life as he navigated deep insecurities with his penis. Alex and Dave both open up about their experiences ...with acne, the extreme lengths they went to in order to compensate and how it impacted their self worth. Dave discusses the liberating feeling of facing his insecurities head on and the conception of the rap name Lil Dicky. Dave and Alex chat about his current girlfriend, porn taste, and a potential sex tape.
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what is up daddy gang it is your founding father alex cooper with call her daddy
do you want me to introduce you as dave bird or lil dicky
uh um you know probably dave bird really yeah Because I had in my mind Lil Dicky.
Yeah.
But I get it because your name is Dave Bird.
I'm a man right here in front of you named Dave Bird.
Right.
Like you're not, your name's not Lil Dicky.
That's your rap name.
Of course.
Okay.
We should save all this for the thing, right?
We're talking.
I mean, yeah, we're already recording.
Okay.
We're in.
Okay.
So Dave Bird, welcome to Call Her Daddy.
Thanks for having me.
Also known as Lil Dicky.
How are you feeling today?
Great.
I love the colors.
It's our new studio.
We're still trying to figure it out, I would say.
I love it.
I'm having a panic attack because I'm like a little OCD, so like I know everything that's
wrong with this studio.
I was actually just having a meltdown before you came here.
What's wrong with it right now?
So I am really frustrated with the close-up shots because the um is that the close-up is this you can see the close-up shot what i'm not
loving right now is the wide shot is phenomenal you get to see the different textures and the
colors yeah but the close-up shot of you and i we're not there yet i think my close-up is better
than yours would you agree i think it's because you've got the nice hair.
What's this?
Is that a pink book?
It's great.
We're going to replace that pink book, though, with a pink Call Her Daddy book.
But we put it in there because I wanted to find something that I want to look basically exactly like that.
But just say Call Her Daddy.
Placeholder.
Placeholder.
We're still trying to figure out.
I would say the lighting's still off.
The Call Her Daddy sign isn't lit.
We could go on and on.
The camera angle's maybe a little tilted.
It's not perfectly centered.
I'm honored to be a part of the figuring it out stage of this.
But you, from just a complete outsider coming in, you were like, this is good.
Yes.
Does it make you want to spill your life secrets?
Not inherently, but if I had to repaint my kitchen, I would repaint it like this mauve that like, I, would you say this is mauve?
Yeah.
It's like, uh, it's a very, very neutrally pinkish beiges.
That's one of my favorite colors.
So really?
Yeah.
Like I love this.
You know, like I said, if I was buying a new house and I had it, and this is not just me
saying it to you because I'm here in your mauve.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I would really like, I think that is the right color. I can give you
the color from my designer. Okay, great. It took me
a long time because actually this studio
is the exact color of my closet
and I wanted to feel like we were kind of
in my house while not being in my
house. Yeah. okay so how did you pick your outfit today oh very little thought went into it
it's a comfortable this is a matching top and bottom. So they're meant to be worn together.
It's so comfortable.
And I just like the way I look in it.
Genuinely.
Like I feel good.
Like I think I look good right now in this sweatsuit.
I agree.
I like your outfit a lot too.
Thank you.
I can give you my merch.
Oh, is that merch?
It's my merch.
Yeah.
Unwild University.
That's not an actual college.
Got it.
It should be though.
Yeah.
I didn't even read the words, but it it's really well designed you just like the look you
didn't even like hone in i just like the green i like that we're both independently wearing solid
i kind of agree suits i agree comfort so i kind of want you to give like a little intro bio to
yourself for the listeners at home the viewers at home that are like dave who is this guy who is
this guy like give us a little elevator pitch.
Yeah, I was born in a town called Cheltenham, Pennsylvania. It's like a suburb outside of
Philadelphia. Yeah, like, nice man. Love sports, love rapping music. I guess I'm a comedian at
heart and professionally always kind of like love
making people laugh. Probably my favorite thing to do in the world is to make people laugh.
And I've really tried to take that attitude and create a lifestyle out of it, which I guess I have.
And yeah, I don't, I mean, there's, I could go on and on. Is that a reasonable intro?
That was perfect. Cause we're going to get, we're going to get into it, but I wanted you to be able
to kind of like tell me first. So I have an interest in like where you went with it
yeah you are a comedian yeah you have a show called Dave Dave which is out now yeah third
season yeah yes you know guys let's give them a little behind the scenes we're recording this a
little before it comes out but right now we're like it is out go watch season three yeah it's
out it's the best season yet so the show is loosely based off of your life that's right how do you describe the show to people
that haven't watched it like I said I've always been like a comedian at heart so like my whole
life I've been the guy that's like trying to make all their friends laugh and just like I feel like
conversationally being funny is where I thrive more than like the way like Will Ferrell can do
all these like really dynamic personas
like I'm kind of trying to be funny in the moment and I feel as though my show like tries to capture
that realism of like a coming of age guy and his group of friends as they're trying to achieve
their dreams in life mine which in the show and reality is being a professional rapper
I've lived this life like I am a rapper and I for a while I was only a rapper I didn't have this show
and as that was happening I was like you know able to observe and be like this life that I'm
living is so inherently funny like the the setting couldn't be more fruitful for a comedy tv show
it's kind of interesting to hear you say that too because I feel like a rapper most rappers are not
also comedians right yeah it's cool that i do right i think that's cool
of me which one do you like more i love them both evenly um truly okay like even and even as a
rapper i i inject my comedy and even in my comedy i inject my rap so it's like they kind of go hand
in hand yeah that being said rap is certainly like a young man's game like am i going to be a
rapper when i'm 50 i don't know but will I still be making really funny content definitely oh so
you've got like longevity I don't want to rule out rapping when I'm 60 like I feel like I if I
can do that that's awesome yeah you could be bringing it in your 60s well you know you could
be figuring it out yeah so your name is Dave that's right and we're talking about your show Dave yeah but now let's
talk about you Dave okay you grew up in Pennsylvania tell me about your childhood what was it like
amazing incredible had the best parents still have the best parents like felt so unconditionally
loved had the best group of friends the only like adversity trauma was penis related let's talk about that yeah your rap name little dicky
stems from the fact that you had a medical issue yeah i well exactly little dicky when i think of
as a rap name i think of like small penis which really isn't but it's like it's i think the spirit
of the rap name was based off of the bleak truth of growing up and immediately having to get like operated on on my
dick why did you have to get operated on it's called hypospadias which is um first off there
were several operations and i don't even know all the facts at hand because i wasn't i was so young
like how young i've just reached i just told my assistant i said hey like can we look into my
medical records
from like the birth and like all that because I just like even my parents like they can only
like they're like oh yeah I think it was that and then I'm just trying to get like the actual
true facts how young newborn like newborn baby like has to get surgery on his dick
my urethra was so tangled it was like my mom says it was like a corkscrew oh my that's so
interesting i couldn't piss right i mean they're projecting i wouldn't be able to come right they
were projecting that for me and so you'd Jesus Christ yeah that is like so you went basically
because normal like little boys are like it may be i guess in the United States you're getting
circumcised you had to get multiple i was like overly circumcised. You had to get multiple surgeries.
I was like overly circumcised.
I was like, you know, I did get circumcised too.
So, but like, yes, I, they had to fix the tangled urethra.
On top of that, there was like this condition called hypospadias
that like isn't necessarily, it's really a mislocated pee hole.
Oh, interesting.
Is it actually not at the tip?
Like is your pee hole like on the side of your penis?
Do you want to give it? Yeah, let's give a little example. Here you go. Yeah. Is it actually not at the tip? Like, is your pee hole, like, on the side of your penis? Do you want to give a, yeah, let's give a little example.
Here you go.
Yeah.
Okay.
Like, let's just keep it real.
So this is a boner.
Yep.
That is a boner.
Or any dick.
This looks like a boner more than a soft dick.
Celsius is like, thanks.
Right here in the middle is where most guys' pee holes are.
Mine is there.
So, like, if a girl is giving you head or a guy is giving you head
sometimes there's like a little swirly thing you can do with your tongue kind of like go in the
pee hole okay um so they would have to go down and whatever swirly thing you would do to the
underside of the head would be where my pee hole is. Got it. I do.
I mean, I've never had another.
Yeah, here.
The whole rest of the interview,
you're just like holding the shaft.
I've never had another dick.
So I don't know what like getting head supposed to feel like.
I do think that I have less
sensitivity in my dick
because of the surgeries
that I've had.
So you don't like blowjobs?
I like blowjobs, but it's not.
I'm not like like honestly, I prefer a lub So you don't like blowjobs? I like blowjobs, but it's not, I'm not like,
like honestly,
I prefer a lubed handjob to a blowjob.
And I couldn't tell you why.
I assume it's probably because I think I just feel head less
as opposed to like the tight grip.
The tight grip gets you going more
than the sloppy toppy delight situation.
Yeah.
Would you like both uh well handy
and a blowy maybe sure okay i can just all i can tell you is i have a surprising affinity for the
lubed hand job like i love it i think sometimes at least i feel like as women we get nervous to
do the hand job yeah because it's like how am i going to do that better than you can do it it's
it's it's a third party it's like nothing you know what i mean like it's like, how am I going to do that better than you can do it yourself? It's a third party. It's like nothing, you know what I mean?
Like it's just like any third party touching a human feels like if I scratch my own head,
that's not going to feel better than even my hairdresser scratching my head.
Because you know what's coming.
Yeah.
Like when you're doing it yourself, you're like, I know where I'm going to go next with
my fingers.
The third party, it's like, where are we going to go with it?
Okay.
So your childhood aside from the penis
surgeries yeah was pretty great it was great what was tell me about your parents they're great
they're they're jewish parents that my mom is a therapist same i mean really the same i think we
have a lot of similarities in terms of like growing up in pennsylvania my parents are still
so in love yeah i was like well you guys fucked me up because I'm never gonna find someone as good as dad right and it's just like I had a pretty
normal childhood for then I think where relative to like where we are now yeah but the Jewish I'm
dating a Jewish guy good for you so I'm like it's as if I wish my mother would have sat me down at a young age and said, listen to me, date a Jewish man and only date a Jewish man.
I don't know how I didn't have this energy in my life prior.
Yeah.
Like it's just so much better.
Everything is better.
Yeah.
Everything is bigger and better and happier.
And just like he's amazing.
So your parents, were they strict?
Oh, yeah.
Tell us about it i mean i thought of them as like kind of strict but i never like when i but when i look back at
the facts at hand like i mean i never drank or smoked at all in high school okay in part because
of the rules and regulations that were applied to the household first off i had the earliest
curfew of all my friends every time by default it's just like is what it is but even independent
of that i had to come home.
Like when I was junior, senior in high school,
I had to wake my parents up, blow in their nose
if my mouth smelled like, obviously alcohol, done.
But if it even smelled like mint or gum, done.
Like if there was any like, yeah.
So it's like I couldn't, isn't that crazy?
Wait, what did they think was happening with mint or gum?
They thought I was drinking
and then trying to cover it up with the mint or gum yep yep yep yep so i never even drank but i also i
think deep down was relieved by these rules because i wasn't even socially ready like i was like
fearful of like drinking wait why do you think that was i don't know i honestly think uh i don't
know i think truly but the reason i bring up my dick is because it created this like layer of like insecurity that was ever present socially, especially like once people started dating and like hooking up and like now they're playing spin the bottle and it's like so stressful.
And like I just like associated like I think drinking with like romance and and romance with like, oh, my my god but does my dick even function and so i was
just like pretty avoidant of like you know even though i was like popular and uh i was cool like
i was so cool okay there's so many things to unpack here hold on rewind number one do you
have siblings i have one older brother interesting but i carry myself like an only child don't i
you do it almost
feels like you just like popped out of the ground and like you're here yeah i get though the concept
of like i had that a little bit also just because i was a very competitive athlete of like drinking
when you're at that age is kind of scary because all of your inhibitions go away and you're
completely out of control of yourself and at that point you have like no fucking tolerance so you're
like one beer in and you're like let's do some crazy shit yeah and if
you were insecure about your penis then obviously i could see you being like i want to be aware of
how to like navigate these situations and not be inebriated and then like go do something and i'm
embarrassed the next day when do you think you realize though you were embarrassed about your
penis because like no one knew about it i can't remember
a time where i wasn't like i like it's like the earliest core thought yeah yeah um oh but i can
tell you when i felt unembarrassed for the first time which is please share like i start my whole
series of my show like at the urologist's office like revealing all this information it was just
like a true cathartic moment for me to like because I don't know. I just think I think I had this image in my brain for better or for worse of like what I am as far as like my legacy on this earth.
And I think it was really largely tied to like this show being created.
And like so I feel like by becoming who I always thought I was with this show, I was able to like put behind my insecurities and
just I don't like do you know what I'm saying I totally get what you're saying of sometimes the
best way to deal with insecurity is to just go at it face first like address it acknowledge it be
the first one in the room to laugh at yourself yeah I had like really really bad acne in high
school and in middle school but But high school got so bad.
Accutane?
Oh, four rounds.
I was on it last year.
That recently.
I just got off.
Like three months ago, I got off.
You look great.
Was your acne on your face?
Body.
Body.
Insane body.
My back looked like Vietnam.
Let's talk about that Vietnam situation.
Because I had it on my face.
You had it on your back.
I'm sure people listening
are like, thank God, normalize it because it's so fucking awful. You hate it. You're embarrassed.
I remember that obviously affected me like with my sexuality a little bit because I was so nervous.
I wanted to sleep at a guy's place. Like I wanted to go and like be there, but I was too afraid to
wake up with no makeup in the morning. So I would literally like if I did sleep over, I'd be like, yeah, I relate to that.
Fucking move an inch because I didn't bring makeup and I can't like fuck it up because
I had such bad acne.
Yeah.
How do you remember trying to compensate for an insecurity and like going out of your way
so people wouldn't know about something you were insecure about?
Well, with the body acne, like literally like a I would first first off when i'm alone i sleep shirtless like i must but like
anytime i was with a girl i would wear a t-shirt and i'd be like oh yeah i always sleep with a
t-shirt and then like if it was after we had sex i don't have sex in a t-shirt okay but like i
remember like like walk into the it was really my back not my front and i be like, like I would like walk out of the room backwards and be like,
I'll see you like in a minute.
And then like back out of the room.
But like even in high school when I had more facial acne,
this is one thing that I don't even think I told anybody.
You get the exclusive.
Yeah.
I used to go into my mom's makeup area,
take little cotton swabs and scrape out her laura marisier or whatever the
fuck yeah and i would scrape uh fucking makeup and then i would you know have and then so every
morning i'd wake up and i'd have these q-tips that the end of it had makeup on it and then i would
apply it like to the spots and then i would like if like i brushed my face and like i'd be like
holy shit and i'd be panicked and i have to go to the bathroom and reapply and I never told anybody and it was a
big secret I used to always have these little q-tips on me all the time I appreciate you sharing
that with me because what I don't think is fair is for the fact that I had the ability to like put
makeup on and then socially it's like you're wearing fucking makeup Dave but it's like yeah
I have a breakout and it's like how red it gets and it's it's fucking awful so I appreciate you sharing that because I've ever
since I've just been like opened up about it I hate using that word like opened up about the
struggles but it's true because like when you're in those dynamics you are so self-conscious people
are staring at it yeah you feel so embarrassed you feel like gross and I think when it's also on your face, you're like, oh, my God, are they listening to what
I'm saying?
Are they staring at me?
Like I used to hold drinks just like when I'd be talking if I had like I would just
be like this drink trick.
Yeah.
And it's like it's not a great way to live.
So I appreciate you sharing that back to you didn't drink.
When do you remember was the first time you got drunk?
College. like where'd
you go university of richmond and that's a fun school right yeah yeah so all of a sudden
thrust into the world of like full-on binge drinking you know what i mean like having never
even gotten buzzed and really stressful like totally in over my head the thing that saved
me was i had you know how like some shot glasses are like taller so i had this tall thin shot glass that i was told or was under the assumption that
it was a double shot so i would i would go out and think i would like all my friends like we
would take like six to eight shots and go out and like i would only take three of the or four of the
doubles thinking like i was taking eight and thank God. Cause I,
and you're like, guys, I'm fine. I've got the double. Like I don't need another one. I'm over here having doubles, but man, like, you know, at Richmond, uh, it's so fraternity and sorority
based and I'm like, not that guy. I'm like, not a, like I felt. And so like, I was like, you know,
one of my roommates was like pledging a frat and I'm seeing this guy get woken up at like 2 a.m. with no like
planning or any idea to like get blacked out drunk.
They're not like I have no clue what this guy schedules the next day.
Like he could have like a huge exam.
Doesn't matter.
And I'm like, I can't play this game.
I thought like they're waking me up and I'm getting blacked out.
I can't do that.
I'm trying to get like a great GPA.
So you were very socially popular, you in high school yeah but you're not drinking
yeah did you play sports played tennis i was a tennis team captain okay the most successful
tennis team in the history of our high school uh but like that didn't really give us any social
cachet no one cared about that i was gonna say i don't think i would have given a fuck i was just
funny i was just i was just funny so like i was like i'm class clown and like you know i was
friends with all the popular kids or whatever but like i was never the. I was just funny. So I was like, I'm class clown. And I was friends with
all the popular kids or whatever. But I was 19 so like i was like and so i was
it was like after freshman year of college like in between the summer between freshman and sophomore
year of college okay bring us there where were you who was this person i don't i don't like the name i'm not
gonna give the names i'm not gonna but all i can tell you is i just remember like my main thought
being like oh my god it it functions my dick functions and like it was such a relief in that
sense like i was like so nervous that it wouldn't like be big enough or like be the right angle when like a girl comes on top or
like you know what i mean and like had you never jerked off oh my god no one jerked off more
no i was setting like land speed records for masturbation in like the tri-state area
i jerked off so much no one horny or no one no one coming more but like not with any woman so for
your whole middle school high school experience do you remember the first time you jerked off
yeah tell me britney spears the music video where she's it's it's like she's in the red suit like
on like mars lucky i don't think it's lucky.
I think it's like, oops, I did it again.
Is it?
Not the school girl one.
What was that one called?
Is that oops, I did it again?
I don't think it is.
I know what you're talking about.
She's in the red fucking latex.
There's not even a piece of skin showing.
It's like a bizarre choice.
She's never been more covered.
But yeah, it was Britney Spears.
First off, so I was jerking off,
felt the feeling of about to come
and was so scared by it.
It was so different that I stopped
and I didn't come.
And then I didn't revisit it
until like six months later at summer camp.
And then I creamed.
Yeah. You like edged yourself for six
fucking months you're like and then man like was deep in it a new man was born every day at least
once um i was yeah i mean the the women were blossoming and i was like just like you know
the music videos that were out, TRL.
Are you kidding?
How are you going to watch TRL without jerking off at least one time?
You know?
Thank you for sharing that.
Because I thought you were going to say you splooged to Britney Spears, but to know you
started and you were just too afraid because of your dick or because of like shame or whatever.
I don't think it was dick or shame.
It was just an overwhelming feeling.
I was like, whoa, like new feeling in life like i'm kind of like risk averse like uh not like you know how
people like to be out of their comfort zone don't like that at all i hate the feeling of being out
of my comfort zone so when i felt that sensation of like pre-cum um you're like not ready i wasn't
ready not ready yeah when was the first time like a woman
touched you sexually was it the first time you lost your virginity
no okay well tell us that i said i wasn't like the guy that got girls but i was certainly best
friends with every all and so i was like hanging out with all the hot cool girls in my school
and then one day like first off let me tell the story of my first kiss just
so you're like aware of like the climate bring us through the timeline i'm the last guy to like
everyone like i don't know if they used to call it uh like deep pruding did you ever hear that
yes you're so fucking prude let's be prude yeah like oh so everyone in my entire circle had kissed
someone except me i was the last one and like i'm sitting in like my friend's basement and like they're like they're like please someone's gotta just kiss him and i'm just
sitting there and then like one of the girls is like just do it and she was like uh she was like
really and then like that she went and like had like a she was like hold like let me and then
the girls like went in the bathroom and like had like a 10 minute convo while I'm like waiting to see how it netted out.
And then she came out and she was like, OK, and I did it.
And it was like really over.
It was like that feeling of saliva, like tongue to tongue.
I'm kind of a germaphobe.
Like it's like weird.
But I was thankful that I was given the opportunity.
Did you feel in that moment embarrassed so that everyone was like, just fucking do it?
I was so like, yes, but it was so like my default state of like how i was socially and how
that it didn't feel new it felt like i was this was just like the state of life it felt unremarkable
but like when i think back to it i'm like that's interesting that is yeah but i was relieved to
like now like to like have like that was more of a relief i think than losing my bridge although
that was a big relief as well i was in college we're gonna go through all the release yeah so
um then i had this opportunity one time where like I was hanging out with two girls and
they were just like, do you want to feel our boobs at the first?
But this was before I even kissed a girl.
So actually this is before that.
Okay, Dave.
And so I actually felt breasts before ever kissing a girl.
And I was like my rep like around town was like I was really good at like tickling the
breast and like making the nipple hard.
And I was like I was really good at like tickling the breast and like making the nipple hard and I was like I felt I felt pride did you have any technique when you actually did it or really just instinctive touch just like I think I think I have a good touch like I have a good
delicate touch like me as a lover is not like an aggressor I'm like really gentle and sweet and
delicate um and I applied that even back then but like for example I felt both their breasts at the
same time
and they were like now let us feel your dick and then like it was like a siren it was like you know
as if like a bomb got dropped and all i heard was the white noise and i had to like make up
excuses to like why i wasn't ready i didn't my dick was so small and fucking scarred and i just
couldn't even deal with it so i made up and i ah, no. And made up some excuse that I can't even recall.
And then I'm telling my friend about this experience.
I'm like,
man,
like I just felt their boobs at the same time.
And like,
they wanted to feel my dick.
And I was,
and then my mom was on the other end of it.
And she was like,
hang up the phone right now.
And then I had to go up there and be lectured by my loving,
wonderful parents about how like the crowd I was moving with was too fast.
And I was literally like, what does it even matter?
Because I'll never show anyone my dick anyways.
Because the whole and I started crying like that's kind of like what was going on.
I was like crying in front of my parents about my dick sucking.
And what did your parents say?
They were so sweet and they were like very empathetic.
They didn't realize it was still bothering me.
And very awkward conversations to be having.
Like wanted no part of that.
Totally.
I love how your mom is like this crowd is moving too fast.
You're like I've been the last to get kicked.
I don't drink.
I literally give you my breath every fucking night I come home.
Exactly.
I couldn't be moving slower.
Literally.
Would you have conversations with girls that you started?
It can't.
It's okay.
Don't.
It's okay.
You're like a contortionist.
It's going to get better.
You're going to come back on for season four and we'll have it all figured out.
Ergonomically sound setup.
What's the youngest you got a girlfriend?
Senior year of high school.
Okay. think about economically sound setup what's the youngest you got a girlfriend senior year of high school okay so when you had your girlfriend senior year of high school are you telling girls no no oh my god no so you're the perf you're really good at avoiding yeah and coming up with like
can't right now because i gotta my mom's over there like how would you avoid it I mean I would control the lighting whenever like for years like really like up until like maybe 2018 like really like
can't daytime this is we don't do the stuff in the daylight you know and just I have like a funny
like that I can like disarm with comedy I guess right but yeah no i was very avoidant and uh
but i will say this in my experience like once i was like there was a point in time where i was
just like fuck it um let the light occur and i feel as though for the most part a lot of women
might not exactly know exactly what a dick is supposed to look like.
And so when I realized that, because it's not that crazy.
Okay.
What's crazy about it?
I don't know when they appear, but I had these little black dots on my dick.
Okay.
Like a freckle.
Bigger?
I'd say like a poppy seed.
A poppy seed.
Like three dimensional.
Cute.
And I was like, mom, mom i gotta have these black dots
removed from my dick okay so i got him removed one of the black dots got like i guess i don't
mind this and this is all like my theory right like i don't even that's why i'm asking for the
medical records yeah all i know is i had black dots got it removed then after i got one of them
removed all of a sudden where one of the black dots was,
pee now shoots out of that spot.
So when I pee, I actually have a main hole that's mislocated to begin with, this main hole.
As if I didn't have enough problems, a new hole.
It's like a pinprick.
You wouldn't even be able to really see it.
You would if I stretched my dick out and said, look right in this spot.
So when I piss, it's two holes.
And it's like, like if I, I have to, when I pee it at like a urinal, like I take my finger, my pointer finger and I clog it and I just piss on my finger every time I pee.
Or if I'm by myself, I'll pee sitting down to avoid that and just, it'll trickle all
over my balls.
I was going to say, well, you could sit down.
That's always better.
I sit down every time I pee, but in a public setting, I mean, a men room in the the stall is like the most atrocious place on i get it okay first of
all i just want to say i do because i know there's a lot of joking that goes around this i actually
really do appreciate you being so open about it because one i know we said like deal with your
insecurities head on however i think that something that is like your dick or like for women it's like
your tits are like what does your labia look like it like it is a huge thing that can affect
your self-worth and like how you feel about yourself and so i appreciate you being honest
because i can imagine there's so many fucking people that are so insecure about a body part and I think
especially for men it's like that is like what gives you your manhood yeah and so I can imagine
like as much as you've now turned it into like you've joked about it and you've made it your
own and it's like that shit is like kind of fucking scarring yeah no pun intended but like
really I really think I don't think anything has informed like the DNA of my personality more than like
I'm not like bringing it up because I think it's like this is so funny.
It's like it's not like a lowbrow thing.
I actually think it's like interesting that how this is totally like shaped like my personality.
I think any time you have an insecurity and like we talked about like you avoid you like deflect like you become so good at avoiding just like accepting yourself, which is really what it is.
Yeah.
Now that you've been so open about it in your career, has it alleviated in terms of when you meet like you have a girlfriend right now?
Yes.
Okay, so let's we'll get there but like before even meeting your girlfriend
or your girlfriend now because you're so public like my name's little dicky i'm owning all this
does it alleviate the pressure now of when you meet a potential romantic partner yeah that you
kind of are like yeah it's my bit like my dick has got this shit like what's up yeah pretty much
i would say i also was like man am i just like putting such a
bullseye on like pay attention to this like you know if you weren't paying attention before
now like maybe i'll really luckily i met my girlfriend like right when the show came out
so i was even like i even there's one episode of season one of my show that's like deeply about
this exact topic and i remember like the second date i had with her she was at my house
and i showed her the episode that wasn't even out yet because i just wanted her to like know all the
facts at hand and feel that relief what was her reaction cool great like she she's like this
woman's my soulmate um yeah so i think i got a lot more confident when i became a successful rapper
and like still like little dicky was like my shtick, but I wasn't announcing the true details.
I was like, I have a small dick,
but it wasn't like,
I have a small, several times operated on dick
with mislocated holes and extra holes.
It wasn't all the details.
And I just think I had enough sexual encounters
pre those details,
but post Lil Dicky that went favor favorably like we're like i was
creating an orgasm from the woman you know and like i just felt like a competent lover
and so i think i just i was able to i think it's more about like uh how you work it and and uh just
being like sweet and i don't know a gentle gentle genuine yeah to the tits yeah like I had
a gentle touch I guess another last question to wrap that up is like how did you take me to the
moment when you decided you were going to have your rap name be Lil Dicky uh like I don't know
how I came up with the idea but like i had the idea and then i was like
well i wanted to do like i felt like especially initially i was like my whole thing's gonna be
that is i'm the opposite of what you expect a rapper to be like so it's like what what what
is a name that like totally encapsulates that vibe so like to me like rap is very hyper masculine
very like i'm the man so i thought i'm very self-deprecating in all ways.
So I thought I want my rap name to be like totally self-deprecating.
Thought of Lil Dicky and then made a whole list of names for like months trying to beat Lil Dicky.
And I never beat it.
And I was just like, OK, I think this is like the second best one to me was and it is a good one.
And I sometimes ask myself, would I have been as successful with this rap name?
Young Man.
Hearing that.
Young Man's dope.
Young Man's great.
Yeah.
Someone should be Young Man.
Someone out there should be Young Man.
However, there's no personal.
Yeah, it doesn't have that zing.
It's like, who the fuck is Lil Dicky?
What?
I know.
So I do my rap name.
Like, honestly, truthfully, I hate my rap name, but I also love it.
Okay.
Because it's like, I think.
Why do you hate it?
Because it's just like, when I see people on the street, they're like, yo, Dicky.
I just like don't see myself as like Dicky.
You know, like I don't like, like it doesn't, doesn't I don't like I go like a little bit cringy
when people are like, yo, Dickie.
Like I don't I know I never grew up people calling me Dickie.
It had to been Lil Dick.
Would you like that?
Like, hey, Dick.
I think I might.
But Lil Dick is too like, I don't know, like too overt.
Like with Lil Dickie, I think it was perfect because you're thinking like, is it?
Is that what I like?
But now that you've been so open, you could get rid of the why.
Like you could leave this room today and say, it's Lil Dick.
I love Lil Dicky.
It's like, it's my curse and my blessing.
And I bear it and I bear it proudly.
Yeah, it's interesting to meet you in person.
Am I not what you thought I would be?
No. thought I would be no I think you're like way more like sensitive and normal and grounded and
like you're really funny but I can tell that like now knowing more about you where you came from
like you're of course you're funny but like you're really how do I say this you're like a really sweet guy that is like in a very flashy world
that can get a little bit misinterpreted sure especially because you're playing a version of
yourself on a show but naturally i mean i felt it sometimes with my show where i'm like i don't talk
every minute of the day so like in the shows, I like never shut the fuck up.
And I was talking about sex and dating and relationships,
but it's like,
I'm not doing that all the time.
Yeah.
So I'm,
I'm relating to a little bit in the sense of like who you're portraying
online and a character,
even you just being like a rapper,
let's just start there.
Like rappers have a certain persona.
You know what I mean?
And you're not,
you know,
it's like,
I,
yeah, the show really
i think helped for anyone who was like i don't know about that little dicky guy seeing the show
is like even if i'm not the same exact you're it's way more than just like seeing a music video
of a guy yes like rhyming yes and everything's rhyming good point good point talking in a rap
voice and i think with the show i i do i want to come i don't like i don't want to be an unlikable character and i think i'm i'm not
you said that the writer's room for your show dave is like a group therapy session except
it's one where the sole focus is on you yeah which is kind of fucking interesting what is a hard truth
that you've been hit with in the writer's room if ever because everyone's focusing on you like
dave what are we like yeah like what are your flaws yeah yeah how do they manifest is there
anything that you've in a writer's room been like fuck i need to like think about that more i'm pretty self-aware
and i and i i i've never felt like and i guess the writers do a good i can tell that they all
genuinely like me and like we i'm friends with a lot of them and i think you know i've told them
i'll tell them stories of like my selfishness like like, but it's like, they're, I've always known I was selfish. So it's like, I just, by default have like, kind of always lived life. And it's
a privilege perspective to have, but like trying to maximize my self interest. And like, you know,
for example, just like dating, I never got girls growing up, like, oh, now I'm a famous rapper,
and I have social leverage like i have
my pick of the litter i think that's it's kind of an abuse of power and like especially the way
gender dynamics are by default in current society it's like not an even playing field to begin with
so then for me to be like this is my competitive advantage you're not thinking about the other
person as a human being and like it's like right you know what you're like trying to be like oh i
i deserve the best girl i'm waiting till i have like perfection in a woman and no one's ever going to be perfect
and that's a flawed way to date that's really a privileged way to think about things in general
because we're operating as men under the skewed power structure where and like my i went on so
many dates like no one has dated more than me and i i feel like the main thing i would learn as i talked to the women
that i was dating was how shitty guys are and i think that it's just a current climate where
i think by default it's like the norm is where like the man has like you know think about like
the way even proposing works a woman has to just wait until the man decides they're worthy enough to then it's like all kind of so baked in.
It's so true.
Just having those with my girlfriend or having the conversations with the women in the writer's room and like not ever realizing that that like I never think to myself I'm not like a shitty guy with girls.
Like I really don't feel that way. But I don't think I realized that just even by default, by just allowing the status quo
to be what it is, I am being kind of shitty in a way.
And I think that's something where I was like, huh.
It wasn't more like, oh, man, I feel so bad about myself.
It's more I'm so happy that I'm in a position where I get to have these conversations and
learn and then make art that can portray that.
And then so some other guy who's watching it could be like, do I behave that way?
And like make them ask them those those questions thoughts dave i'm really impressed
i you said it and you didn't need to say it because i as i've been sitting here with you
and i guess it's because we both have you know therapist mothers but like you are very self-aware and i think it's really refreshing to hear a white hetero man with money and yes
power just be like oh yeah like i think it's so obvious to me that this is the dynamic and i think
on top of it having fame it it makes it even harder think, for women to look objectively at a situation if they're on a
date with you and feel like, I have an equal say in this. Like, they're just happy to be there
sometimes because the power dynamic is so off that I think it's interesting to hear you talk about
coming to the realization. And then when, so you met, when did you meet your girlfriend?
2020.
So you were already famous. Yeah. How did that met, when did you meet your girlfriend? 2020. So you were already famous.
Yeah.
How did that go?
How did you meet?
One of the writers on my show, Vanessa, woman I love, I kept saying, you know, you got to
set me up.
Like, you know, I was like, I'm a hopeless romantic for sure.
Like I, like I wasn't like going on all these dates to like, fuck, I was going to like meet
my wife.
Like, and like, I worked so hard that simply having a date set up in the week was like my like beacon of hope that
like i would work toward like i can't wait till thursday when i meet lauren uh we're just making
a name up right maybe lauren's my wife and then like i'd meet lauren and i'd be like i don't know
and and then i would be like on to the next, which is like kind of like an unfair way to approach.
I knew that I would always have in theory kind of I know that my personality, I really am nice.
And for the most part, I'm going to like be able to get the second date.
Yeah. And I think I went into every date being like, is this my wife?
Am I blown away? Am I fully blown away to the point where like I can't even think about like, no.
OK, then it's not right for me.
And before we move forward from that that's so interesting so you went on these dates and did you how like vulnerable do you get on these dates because I thought it was interesting
that you said all these women the common theme was them talking about like how shitty guys are
but I feel like it's because you're such a good guy that they immediately like, why aren't guys like this treating women like this?
Like,
were you being overly sweet to these people?
Uh,
well,
I think I'm being kind of,
I think I just kind of by default,
I'm sweet.
Um,
I,
I definitely like if I'm on a date,
I'm trying to be charming.
Like I will be like,
you know,
super.
Did you have any things you would do on dates?
That was like your go-to.
Oh yeah.
Tell us.
First off,
my go-to pickup line every time was, excuse me, what's your availability as
far as being hit on right now?
Like, are you open-minded to that type of thing or not even remotely?
It's good.
Yeah.
And it's just, it's like, what else am I, I'm not going to be like, hey, how's your
night going?
I don't even know you.
Right.
Has anyone ever been like, fuck off? They've been like, oh, not? I'm not going to be like, hey, how's your night going? I don't even know you. Right. Has anyone ever been like, fuck off?
They've been like, oh, not I'm not open.
I have a boyfriend.
But like, that was nice.
That was good.
Yeah.
Great feedback with that line.
That's fucking great.
Thank you.
Very.
Why?
Why?
It's all such bullshit.
Right.
Like, hey, like, are you down to get hit on by me in this moment or not?
Like, you know, let's be transparent.
Yeah.
I met my girlfriend at the right
time for sure because it was covid and like like it allowed me to like slow down and like
give love a shot and like i my current girlfriend is my soulmate like i'm just obsessed with her
when she met me she was fresh off of like a long breakup and so she wasn't like trying to get into
a relationship either so i think for her it was like oh cool like like rapper like you know funny guy like this is an exciting thing for me to I
never thought this was going to be the next guy I dated and I think I just she was like like it was
good for her to have some something to like really look forward to like her whole life just changed
due to her last breakup you know what I mean yeah and then I think we just like fell in love with
each other and we're gonna talk
a little bit more about that yeah i do have one more question about your penis yeah two questions
because then i want to go more into the relationship side of things and sex um what is your relationship
with your penis now at this very moment i love it i love it the way you love like a flawed pixar character it's like
this charming like pixar character that's like a little bit misshapen i for example
you know talk about my dick all the time and like the guys who who made the score for the first two
seasons of the show are like my I love these men.
Like they're like they're like one of my best friends in L.A. and like I love hanging out with them.
But they had never seen my dick.
And like they were obviously they were like, what?
Show us your dick.
Yeah.
And I showed it to them and they were just like, man, you you couldn't like I was worried that it was going to be like overhyped.
But like I've never like thought something was worried that it was going to be, like, overhyped, but, like, I've never, like,
thought something was, like, smaller
and bigger at the same, it's, like,
so small, yet it's so big, it's so,
like,
like, fucked up, but, like,
so beautiful, they were, like, it's this
perfect, like, contradicting thing that,
like, they really were blown away, and, like,
you know, every now and then,
when we're, like, struggling to, like, come up with score, like, and I can tell they need motivation, I. And like, you know, every now and then when we're like struggling to like come up with score, like I can tell they need motivation.
I'll like show them my dick and they'll be like, all right, I'm ready.
I'm ready to lock in.
Picturing you standing there in that room, just pulling your pants out and then like, OK.
There are scenes that we've like scored for the show.
We're like literally like two men are like playing the keyboard and I'm just like butt naked sitting there.
Because it just gives them such motivation.
It's just yeah.
It's just funny.
It's a funny thing.
Like certain like I don't know if you've seen season two like where like me and Benny like do that.
Like there's have you seen that episode?
I haven't seen that.
Yeah.
Good.
You'd have a lot of questions, I think. But there's like a certain like Jewish like there are times where like I've jerked off
and like other guys were in the room as a kid and like we're all just jerking off at
the same time in the same room.
Is that a Jewish thing?
I don't know if it's a Jewish thing, but it might be like a suburban Pennsylvania fucked
up kid thing.
Yeah.
I'm going to ask my friends if they ever jerked off in the same room in a Pennsylvania basement.
I'd love to know the stats.
Yeah, I'll let you know.
If you could tell your 10-year-old penis something, what would you say to him?
Girls don't know what it's supposed to look like.
It's all going to be okay.
It functions.
It works.
It will develop really like it's like a nice weight.
There was one time I remember where I like i expressed insecurity about like the length
of my dick and like a woman said like it's so uh there's such girth and that there's you can't uh
there's nothing better than a well-weighted dick she said and that that stuck with me so i would
say hey man you got a weird dick but it's's going to work. It's going to work out well.
And you're going to be able to create the female orgasm.
And that's that's all that matters.
I will say a smaller penis is better for.
Yeah.
I personally think a smaller penis is better for allowing a girl to have an orgasm.
Cool.
Because you can just hit a little bit more near
that area where a large penis i'm like you're more near my belly button yeah that's not where
like the g-spot area is let's like back it out so i put half of it in there yeah but for you
yeah you can enjoy yourself going all in i get all in and then i'm i'm in and that now i'm wiggling
you know i'm in and i'm i'm slow grinding right know, I'm in and I'm slow grinding.
Right.
You know, it's not, I'm not doing that.
No.
We're in.
We're marinating.
Oh, my God.
Your girlfriend's like, why were you doing it on that show?
Speaking of your girlfriend, do you guys live together?
Yeah.
We just got a puppy.
What kind?
A cockapoo, Reggie.
Reggie. Reggie.
Oh, he's the cutest.
You should have called him young man.
Maybe I will.
There's still time.
Okay.
I could be his nickname.
What is something that you learned about the opposite sex by living with your girlfriend?
I feel like there's no friction whatsoever as far as us living together.
That's great.
We're very similar. I've actually never met anybody from a personality perspective more similar to me than my girlfriend.
So it's like, yeah, it's bizarre.
And I didn't know who I was going to end up with.
Like, as far as I kind of always thought, like, whoever I'm going to end up with is
going to be the opposite of me to like that.
But it's actually it's actually great to be like so on the same page about everything
in life.
I agree. So it's do you want be like so on the same page about everything in life i agree so it's
do you want to get married yeah have you talked about it yeah i talk about all the time
that's great it's gonna go down yeah have you thought about how you're gonna propose
a little bit but not not it's i'm so basically it'd be like the way i am with my show right now
like i can't even believe i'm here like i it I can't believe how hard it is to finish this show like the post schedule like this show is getting worked
on in real time all the way so it's like I'm like if I like hit my head on the way out of here and
went to the hospital for two weeks I think we'd like miss air dates you know what I mean like
we're so it's like every day is like game seven right now so for me I don't I don't want to like
even think about like that type of thing until like I'm actually like I want to be able to focus on her.
It's like it's kind of a shit like it's hard to date me in the sense that I'm always distracted with the task at hand.
Are you neglecting your girlfriend?
I don't think so.
I mean, maybe in a sense, in a sense, but not in a way that's surprising or. Right. And it's like because I think working from home is so nice because like now that she's
not going to know, it's like it's we're both always there.
We're in or overlapping.
I think what's most important is that I when I'm with her and I'm not it's like don't
neglect there.
Like, you know, be present in that moment.
And I'm sure I think to be with someone obviously like you, like I'm sure she you guys have
a good balance of like she she knows what you're,
you're doing and you're grinding it out right now. And you're at such a great point in your career
that like there's moments in relationships where you have to be there for your partner while they're
going through it. And then all of a sudden the show could be done one day. And then it's like,
you got to be there for her with whatever she's going through. She couldn't be more supportive.
And like, it's so, it's so nice to have have that and i couldn't appreciate her more or love her more what is your taste in porn
uh super hd like you know if there's anything non-hd i'm not interested i like like i can just
i mean i don't know if like i like things that feel like real like have you ever heard of like x art x dash art no go
google or porn hub search x dash art and you'll see it's like very like slice of life handheld
well lit well shot it feels so real it's so it's not like it's like on a tripod it's yeah it's not
a tripod i don't like when the dick is too big scary yeah i like can't relate you know i love
watching head more than actually getting head that's so interesting yeah well because maybe
you like jerking yourself off more than you like getting head so you can jerk off while you're
watching someone get head but you're like but i don't have to get head i can just jerk myself off
what is the best skill you have to offer in the bedroom?
I'd say I truly my,
my touch,
like my sense of touch. Like when I'm like,
when the hand is like drifting up the thigh,
you know,
like that's my,
that you've got the hand.
I got the hand.
I got the touch,
like a great tickle,
a tickle.
So are you good at like fingering?
Yeah. Have you been given that note i think so yeah okay i feel like better about like the way i i get my hands on someone than i do like
necessarily like going down on them okay um not that i think i'm like i just don't i think like
i look at myself as like an artist with the touch going down i don't know i'm kind of like it's like
a free-for-all and i'm not even sure what's going on i love the self-awareness because some men need to recognize that like if you don't know
you're great at it to every man listening don't eat a girl out if you really don't think like you
know what you're doing because it's actually so sad for us because we're like how do i tell him
just to come up and fuck me like let, let's just stop. Just stop.
Fingering is 10 times better.
Because sometimes the guy doesn't know how to use the tongue.
So it's like, let's just cut to the chase.
You're not even rubbing my clit.
Like, you're on like a random patch of skin that's not even my labia.
Like, we're not in the region for you to stay down there for more than like 30 seconds.
Just get up here.
So you're good with the touch.
Yep.
Okay.
Touch guy. Have you ever made a sex tape no if you ever did what would the tone of the sex tape be and how would you produce it i do think that i could have been like a porn star because of that
like pixar like quality that like i think would be like heroic for like the people to like see
such a flawed dick in porn um but i don't know like i don't know
this is like this is tough like i do like i don't send dick pics like you've never sent a dick pic
in your life never i think that's smart like no one needs a dick pic anyways no my dick is too uh
no i don't care how good a dick is or bad it doesn't matter no one needs a dick pic really
yeah i think like uh pam and tommy style like vintage camera like feeling like
fly on the wall like there's like a special moment between the two people if i had to make one what
is something unusual that turns you on one of my favorite phases of sexuality is the moment where
the my dick is being touched over my underwear. I'll be hooking up,
and I'm not speaking about my sexual issue
with my girlfriend,
I'm just saying my past experiences.
And a girl will be trying to take the underwear off
and I'll keep it on.
I'll wait because it's my favorite phase.
It's like the over underwear touching of the boner.
That's like my favorite part of the whole thing.
But do girls ever be like, oh, does he not want me to go down?
I probably just because.
Yes, because I.
They're like, oh, sorry.
I love the hand.
They're like.
And they're like, well, Dickie.
Oh, yeah.
Maybe that's almost it's like a little
lingering from your past of like you used to actually be like no don't go down there and you
hiked him up it could be it could be like think about my underwear on like that's the thing you
know and now it gets you off that you actually will eventually you know you'll let them take it
off but like let's linger in the yeah like don't take them off in the foreplay yeah i'm a big i
like foreplay what
do you want people to know about you as we wrap up this episode like what is something you feel
like is a little like misconception like you wish people got more about you i don't know i think i'm
an open book but i feel as though if i had to answer that question i would say for the people
out there who might see a little dicky rap video and think you know that's like a satirical based joke
about like that requires like a tongue-in-cheek assholey adjacent perspective to know that
there's probably thought behind it and I really value the joke I love making jokes and I honor
the joke and as a human being I feel like I am a good man. A young man.
Yeah.
Young man.
Little Vicky.
Thank you so much for coming on.
This was so fun.
I really had no idea what to expect.
And I had a great time talking to you today.
Great.
Did you have a good time?
Yeah.
Nothing too offensive.
No, I thought time flew. Outro Music