Call Her Daddy - Lisa Vanderpump: Bravo, Drama, & Beverly Hills (FBF)

Episode Date: October 31, 2025

Join Alex in the studio for a hilarious interview with Lisa Vanderpump. Lisa discusses her time on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, how she dealt with so much drama, why she loves to flirt with Andy Cohen, and why sometimes you actually should hold a grudge. Then Lisa and Alex play a chaotic game of Never Have I Ever where Lisa reveals her stance on swinging and secret keeping. She even reveals the time she knew a Bravo cast member was getting cheated on and nobody said anything. Lisa also talks about the craziest reasons she’s ever had to fire people, which Vanderpump Rules cast members she’d like to see hook up, and where she sees the show going in the future. Enjoy! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Lisa Vanderpump, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Are they ready for this? Probably not. I don't know if they're ready for this. I feel like this is like the matchup that everyone wanted, but maybe didn't know they needed. So people are going to freak out that you're here.

Okay, good. I've had Ariana on before during the scandal. And that's the only person, oh, wait, I've had Stasi on. Oh, yes. We hit it off. But I was like, I was saving the best for last, honestly. So I'm excited. How are you doing today?

I'm good, but I've been frantically busy doing everything. I've been here, there, I've been in New York, doing the up fronts, Gordon Ramsey's show, you know, food stars, premieres today. I've been doing stuff for Vanderpont Villa, reunion. I've been in Vegas. I've been in Lake Tahoe because I just opened my new restaurant there. I've been here there and everywhere. I'm exhausted just like thinking about that. I, do you ever have any downtime?

I haven't had as much as I would like for sure. And I think that's important to build it into your schedule. But with, you know, the shows and we have the dog foundation, we just had well, dog day. I have a lot of responsibilities. So I take that really seriously. I'm thinking about your house, Villa Rosa. Yes, it's a sanctuary.

It is the most insane, extravagant place. Like when I see it on the shows, to people that haven't seen it, There are ponies, there are swans. It is over the top and amazing and everything you could dream of for a house. If you do have a lone time in your house, what are you doing by yourself? Well, I love cooking. So I've made sure my kitchen is absolutely heavenly. Do you remember when I threw Kyle out the house and I kind of put the sledgehammer on there?

I was like, fuck it, we're done. This is time for a new era, song, Kyle. So I kind of made a kitchen that really, you know, I have the view, the doors open up nicely, there's a fireplace when it's cold. I just really, so I'm very homey in terms of I love doing flowers. I mean, I'm obsessively always kind of, you know, doing flower arranging. There's something about my home that I feels the essence of who I am and it will always be. I mean my children grew up saying

You know they never heard an argument in our house Really? Yeah I mean I might like punch a shit out of him behind the doors But I just always believed in having that very kind of calming You know I mean I was a little crazy I mean if we weren't dancing on the tables and things like that Music plays all the time And I just really just believe that calm in my life

Gives me the strength to deal with everything on the outside Right it's like when you go home you're in your sanctuary and then you leave and you deal with all the chaos. And I would encourage people no matter how hard you work, no matter if it's like one room, a beautiful place, you know, create a space where you really feel, ah. I think people are so fascinated by you because you have this lavish life, but you do work so hard. Like you said, you're not sitting at home. Yes. Would you consider yourself high maintenance or low maintenance? Well, I mean, you see, I arrive with nobody today except my dog. I know. I don't have an assistant yet. I should

have one. You don't have insistent? I do my own nails. I have my heads on every six weeks. I do my own makeup pretty much, but I travel with somebody if we have to look through the camera. So now I'm very low maintenance, but when it comes to do I need fresh flowers and music and good wine and I like cooking good food, that I have high standards. So you're high standards on the vibe, but for yourself, I can't believe, like I was expecting, oh God. No, I don't know if I was expecting a big posse with you, I at least thought you would have like maybe three people. Lisa, I've had musicians coming here with 20 people. But how can you know me? And you, I have one dog that travels. Let's talk about Bravo. Yes. Okay, because obviously you're such an iconic part of

Bravo and with Bravo comes drama. Yes. When all of this was starting in your life, when you got on housewives, like, did you have any hesitations of doing reality TV? Um, yes, I did because in fact, I'm having dinner tomorrow night with my friend Sharon Osborne. And so I remember really the essence of reality television was the Osbournes, you know, prior to that. And that seems such a crazy hot mess. I would think, oh my God, as I said, I lived in a kind of sanctuary, even though we worked hard. We lived in a really beautiful house and I had a restaurant, Villablanca. And I was approached a couple of times and I thought, we don't really fight. I see the funny side of it. I mean, I just, I'm not sure that I'm really right for this.

And they said the form that I filled out when I went into the audition was it's put a line through it. And I remember they said they have a tape where they say, you know, tell us about your sex life. And I was like, what with my husband or with everybody else? And they were like, oh, okay. So I saw the funny side,

but I wasn't going to go for the interview because they had, they wanted you to be submitted in groups of people, you know, like you were a group. So these women had put me, a group and there were women that came to the restaurant and they weren't really friendly with me and I thought, oh my God, no, this is not going to work for me at all. So then it was Jennifer Stallone, Jennifer, if you're listening, who said to me, oh come on, you've got to go for it. Like, go for it. And she made me sit down on their bed and watched the New York Housewives

and they were kind of yelling and screaming at each other. And I was like, this is not me at all. Go for it, go for it. So I went in and I had no kind of preconception of what was about to transpire. And they asked me this. I was like, oh, fuck, come on. Are you serious? Do they really think I'm to sit down and tell them about my sex life when I don't even know them what planet are they on? Because if you remember right in the first episode, they said, Lisa, you know, something about your sex life. And I said, oh yeah, twice a year, you know, like birthdays at Christmas. That's not my birthday. You know, it's another day off. And they took it seriously. So suddenly I was on the news talking about having sex twice a year. And I was like, oh,

Oh shit, now I better behave because, you know, everything they said was being taken literally. But you're so entertaining and even just that in itself. Like, I think people love that and you're so good at it. I was going to see the world through my eyes, you know. And it was just if I didn't care if everybody judged me. I mean, I set myself up for people to hate me because I was like, you know, I love pink. I had a little dog that I carried around that had, you know, terrible kind of skin problems. He was always compromised chicky and I had alopecia and stuff.

I used to feed him on a silver platter. You know, I always took the piss out of my husband, you know. So it was just like I set myself up for people to go, she's a fucking lunatic. And guess what they're right? You think people thought you were a lunatic? Well, I think, you know, I set it, you know, I was this wealthy woman.

They didn't know how hard I worked in my life. They didn't know that I fed the homeless every Monday for 12 years. They didn't know I had, you know, charities, you know, that I would support. I'd worked hard in my whole life. with Ken, I'd be married forever in a day. And, you know, I was living in this big house. I love pink. I had a little dog.

I drove around a fuck off car. You know what I mean? So, yes, I mean, it was easy to be obnoxious. I think there's something about also television that, like, whether it's real or not, like, you being yourself or playing it up for the camera, like, it's great TV. That's what I want to see. Right. When I see Paris Hilton and everything she is going on, I'm like, I'm entertained.

Yeah. I'm entertained. Yeah. And so like I don't think anyone can look at that and hate it. Like maybe their jaws are dropping when they see you feeding your dog on a silver platter and they're like, I can't even like afford kibble for my freaking dog. Yeah. But it's like it's aspirational and it's funny.

Wait, do you actually only have sex two times of year? No. Not anymore. I mean, I used to have at least twice. Oh. No, no. It was a joke. It was like, he has to beg, you know, put his knee pads on and crawls me.

beg for you i remember there was a quote from you're like i had a very strong physical connection with my husband i met him i was married within three months that's not somebody that has sex twice a year trust me that's the other deal you have such iconic lines i remember one of your lines was like i like my husband calls me the sex object like he asked for sex and i object yeah that's right i know but you know people i thought if they're going to take it seriously then they don't understand me totally you know is it true i remember reading somewhere no probably not let's start with that absolutely not oh by the way i also don't have a publicist just because i don't give a shit what people talk about me is none of my business so i don't have a publicist i mean i have a lot of

publicity because especially with three shows on the air right you know i've done oh my god i don't know what i've done press-wise but i don't try to control it it is what it is it is and also like i feel like you're season enough. We're like, you're not going to say something that's going to get you canceled. And like, also, you can't really get canceled. Like, unless you do something so awful that you go to jail, I guess that's considered canceled. Yes, I guess, which isn't, no, no. Right, you're not going to job. Um, okay, I'm curious, this was the rumor was like, Andy Cohen was like not completely sold with Bravo that they were going to do Beverly Hills. Oh, the housewives love it when you say this. Go ahead. Say it. Oh, they're all going to come.

saw my tape. That, they were his words. And then it was in the Huffington Post, I think, that he said it. Okay, tell people the story though. No, I can't.

I'll say it. I'll say it. Yeah. Okay, so it's too self-indulgent. They're his words. Okay, so Andy Cohen said that he wasn't sold if they wanted to do the Beverly Hills franchise.

Oh, my God. I can see the rich. It's just a spinning right now. And then he saw your tape and was like, oh, I immediately had a vision. I immediately know we had to make it. And it's like, I could see that happening.

but I'm assuming that pisses the other women off. Oh, I think, yeah. And then I got Vanderpomber rules the second season. But that was, you know, that wasn't so much about. Someone's calling you. Should we answer? Yes, but, oh, it's Kyle saying, I just heard that. Oh, it's literally.

Oh, I can't. Imagine is Kyle Richards. Oh, no, it's my daughter, but don't worry. Don't worry. Yeah. Oh, that's my grandson. Oh, so sweet. Oh, I try to spend every minute of, every minute.

Hi, sweetie. I'm in the middle of an interview. Be back soon. So you don't know if it's true. Those are Andy's words, but do you think. No, he has said it. It is true. But, and I understand maybe I was a slightly different flavor, also being English and

being like, I mean, a ridiculous sense of humor. And even now, I mean, I did his, I did his watch what happens like the other night. And he was like, oh my God. I was, I really fucking love it. Andy, stop it. Do you think you're his favorite housewife? I, well, I mean. I think there's a few people that aren't his favorite elsewhere now

after what he's been through and I really vociferously defended him because all those allegations were absolute bullshit and they did big investigation. No, I think he's got a love for, there's a few of us, but I think he definitely has connected with me on many levels and socialized with me. That's why he's like, if anybody knew what I was up to,

Lisa Vanipop was, I was like, oh my God, don't take me down that road. It's true. But it's true. I knew that he was innocent of all this bullshit. Yeah. And also there's something very reassuring for women about a gold star gay, a man that is not attracted to women that you can play with. You know, you can really, I play with Andy.

I'd say very, very, you know, like kind of strong sexual innuendos, but you know it's not going anywhere. Right, right. It's a joke. Or if it was a straight man, you'd have to be careful, you know. Very careful. But Andy Cohn is a straight man. It's never going to happen.

No, it's definitely not going to happen. When you're at the center of drama, because that is what's being on these shows, how does it impact you? Well, I think I, you know, when people say, oh, you didn't turn up for the reunion. when you left and I was like, no, I drew a line in the sand, thought that's it. I am not going and I'm not going to finish this show. I said at the beginning of season, you know, I've been very honest about this. I was very involved with the Trevor Project and done PSAs for them. My only sibling committed suicide. I was really like not in good shape. I mean, if I, I've talked

about this. If I opened the fridge, you know, there wasn't milk in there. I'd start to cry. It was like on that edge all the time. And for the first time, I mean, for the first time, I was talking. my life, I took some medications, some antidepressants, just to try and get over that. And I was really, yeah, I was not in good shape when I said, okay, I do Vanderpump Rules, which I started filming just, I think, three or four days after my brother's funeral. So I started that and I thought, let's just not talk about it, you know. But I also don't really have that personal connection on Van der Pump Rules as far as my personal life. We've always seen me mentoring them and supporting them. So we kind of

got through that and then they were like come back to housewives. I said, I just can't do it anymore. And I think about four or five out of the nine years they'd come for me, you know, where they all gang up and they this and that. And I'd been at those reunions where I'd sat there with them all kind of coming at me

like, that wasn't funny when you said that or you did this or you did that. And I was just like, I'm going to leave right now when I threw Kyle out. the house and I'm never going back when you look back like why do you think so many of the women came for you I don't know I suppose they might have thought I was favored in some way I don't know I really don't know I mean I think we all know but I would never say it I mean I had band of pump rules given to me my own show as executive produced with the same company

and the same um network yeah like in the second season of housewives so that was a huge privilege and then that's gone on for 12 years so maybe suddenly i was sitting on the other side as executive producer with um maybe that you know stimulated certain things i don't know but they certainly didn't make my life easy on that show i was going to say i think like naturally anyone that's a bystander and like is unbiased can just be like oh there's like a lot of jealousy like the fact that you were able to make something so much bigger out of what you were doing it's amazing Well, I just think whenever anybody says that about themselves, like, oh, they're jealous at me.

It just sounds pathetic and self-aggrandizing, but I just think I was afforded a lot of kind of, and also the audience would nearly always support me. So even when they came against me, they never had anything. So the audience would always kind of rally in my defense. And, you know, I would do these appearances with rosé and wine and dog, appearances and shelter things. In fact, I'm doing one this afternoon, a shelter thing. And people connected to me, you know,

if it was about my love of dogs, our furry friends, and if it was about marriage, you know, having a long marriage, if it was about suicide prevention, if it was about LGBT issues, it was about my son who are adopted from Foster Together, we never really talked about. But, you know, all these issues, people would always connect with me, emotionally and you're funny yeah you're pretty i mean i never think i'm funny i just think i'm telling

my side of the story you're just talking and then it goes i'm just talking i have a narrative that runs through my head all time sometimes i actually think i would not say that but very rarely normally just say lisa when do you decide like when it's time to confront someone for drama versus when you're just like it's not worth my time i'm not going to address it um well if they're just being ridiculous maybe let them have their moment you know let everybody else tell them but if I feel somebody's lying to me that's it if I feel that you know yeah then I'm going to call them out that's my kill his heel can you give any of the girls listening advice like when someone just like doesn't like you and has it out for you like

give us advice like how do we handle that I think you should look at statistics in the world as a woman that's grown up you know amongst many many people I've not been sitting in an office every day. I've been like around the restaurant business. There's seven and a half or whatever it is billion of people in this planet. If somebody doesn't like you, then fuck them. You know what I mean? I mean, I do think also, I do think you should look at things and think, okay, why are they behaving like this? Often it's jealousy. If you couldn't think, okay, they don't have a good reason. Really look at yourself objectively. You know, a friend of mine was going through this relationship and kind of split up with their significant other. And I can see this person's a very

strong person. I kept saying maybe you should look at how, you know, what your part is in the relationship. Sometimes I think, you know, try and have a good look at yourself and your own actions and grow from that. But somebody doesn't like you. They don't have to as well. You know, sometimes you feel this kind of visceral reaction that I don't like that person. Right. Then you Piss off, bye. Exactly. There's somebody else around the corner. Okay, we're going to play a game.

Yes. Never have I ever Bravo edition. If you've ever been in one of these scenarios, tell the story. Okay. Okay, never have I ever gotten a drink thrown in my face? No, I've been there when one. Oh, no, I wasn't there. That was Brandy Glanville chucking one in Eileen's face.

No, I haven't had a drink thrown in my face. That's amazing. Which owning a bar. That's pretty cool. Have you had one? Have you had one thrown in your face? I have never had one thrown in my face. Have you ever thrown one?

I think it's a, okay, it's common on Bravo, I feel like. Yes, Darsie's done it a few times. Right, everyone's chucking shit in people's face. I'm like, what is that? No, I normally drink it rather than through it. Someone's coming from me, I think, oh, I need to drink this. I'll swallow it whole. You're like, oh shit, got to get drunk.

What are they coming out before? What is the fastest way to piss you off? A lying to me. Lying. I don't like late either, really. I mean, I know I was 10 minutes late here because I was like juggling with things I've got to meet it and I'm 30 and I was like yeah, you've got to delay it

but I don't like people I think it's disrespectful when you're late because I think you're basically telling somebody that, you know, your time is worth much more than theirs. I don't like that really. I appreciate that. Okay, never have I ever known a castmate's partner was cheating. Yes.

You have. You have. In what circumstance? Well, there was somebody that's recently had this kind of complicated scenario yeah in one of the shows i'm not telling you and i kind of knew yeah i've known yeah and in that situation did you say something to the person or you just let it be no i didn't say it why didn't you say anything because sometimes people don't want to hear it you know what i find surprising yeah is that

they're on a reality show. It's like, and they're living their lives. And of course all marriages have problems. You know, anybody that says, oh, he's perfect, my love, my name, my king, my dear, my, I'm like, fuck off. It's like your husband, get real. It's like sometimes you want to strangle them.

Sometimes, like, yeah, there's parts of it. You know, like, I'm like, if you snore one more time, I'm going to put the pillow over your head. You know what I mean? Like, you've got a choice here. Is this sparing, pillow was divorced. But it's like, then suddenly they get divorced, but they've been saying, oh, love being, or my king, and my this, all my that.

That's not like that. You've got two imperfect people living together that it's not, you know, and that's bullshit. And then on the reality show, suddenly, how many times have you seen this, especially on that I used to be on? How many times everything's just going, gosh, just fine. And then, oh, we're getting a divorce. Oh, okay.

You know, or, oh, we've just separated. Oh, we've separated. when it's been going on for months and years. Right, and it's not like you're not being authentic on camera because obviously, I also do agree with you though when people are like, my honey bunny, we're perfect. Yeah, like, what the fuck is wrong? Yeah, it's really going on.

I don't believe this for a fucking second. Honey bunny, get the fuck down here. Like, we're so healthy. We have so much sex. We're so happy. Yeah, exactly. Shut up. Let's hear the truth.

Right. You know, we can have, we've been married a long time and we have, you know, a lot of good moments and he's got a sense to you and he indulges me in so many things like, you know, luckily he's got the same passions. I have the fact we've got seven dogs and most of them would be like, you know,

he'd never say like, you know, when you see these guys, they go, oh, does this dog shed? It's a dog, yes. Ken would never say anything like that, you know, like... Right. I'm actually curious, when you said you didn't tell the person because they don't want to hear it, I feel like a lot of times

there's also where you're like, Because they know. Yeah, sometimes, I think. Right. And also they're not, I often think if you say too much, unless then I think that you lose both of them. You know what I mean? Right.

Like if you get involved, it's not your place. Yeah. Especially if they get voted. That's when it gets so awkward. No, but you're right, Lisa. It's like if you told this woman this, one, sometimes they don't want to believe it. So then it comes back on you.

and then they both hate you or if they do break up and get back together then they're like it's too awkward we can't see you ever yeah exactly this didn't happen so you gotta go away right right okay can i it's got to either be kyle or duree no you're not guessing or doing or saying anything because that is not a headline i'm living with so no it's not either of them it could be but it's not okay fair okay fair okay fair how did it make you feel when people were convinced that you did know about Tom and Raquel's like affair for so long. Oh, I didn't really even know that. Did they think that I knew? Yeah, there was like a conspiracy during all of it. Oh, God, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I didn't know. I did say, well, hold on a second, you know,

in the kitchen that time. I was like, Miss Malibuze in the jacuzzi. And I said, that's not, you know, that's not okay. I mean, and Ariana was vociferous in saying, no, no, no, she who's my friend, I'm fine with that. And I said, well, I wouldn't be fine with that if I was away on the other side of town and Miss Malibu was in the jacuzzi with whoever she is, whether it was Raquel or any, you know, beauty queen was in the, you know, jacuzzi with my husband when I was away, no, that's not okay. Is this what we call Raquel now, Miss Malibu? Well, I do.

I mean, I'm just saying, or Miss, you know, whoever, Texas or any gorgeous creature and I'm on the other side of the country. And she's sitting in the jacuzzi, whether she's got malintent or not, my husband would definitely be thinking, oh, I wonder how long my wife's staying away for. You know what I mean? It's like, no. So if I'd known, I wouldn't have been saying that. Yeah, you know, you're right. And also, I wouldn't have condoned that.

If my husband was in a hot tub with a woman. Yes. When you're away. Dead. Yeah. Death. Yeah, exactly. Get out.

By, yeah, penis. Yeah, exactly. Snip. Snip. Yes, exactly. Oops. Bring it out of the highway. Exactly, right?

Yeah, okay. And I was calling it. I wouldn't have been calling it if I'd known. I was saying, hold on a second. I said, you lied. She just came in looking like a bag of shit. Remember for the food tasting? I said, what are you doing?

You look like a wreck. You're late, what's going on? And they were like, oh, no, we're good friends. And, you know, Ariana was saying, oh, we're good friends should never do that. Well, you know. Yeah. So, no. But that's also when you feel a gut feeling.

yeah it's all it's usually right yeah but my job on that show is to sort this hot mess out so that is something if i had known i would have said hey guys you know that is let's get it together yeah but she was so vocal about defending rachel that i think that's what took it to a whole different level and then rachel asking her about her sex life while she was banging her husband or boyfriend that was one of the weirdest that felt sociopathic to me that felt like i don't give a fuck about any but his thoughts or feelings, it doesn't permeate, you know. Right, if anything, I'm, like, interested to know what, like, your experience is because I'm having it at the same time. How often does he, yeah.

Like, can you imagine if a woman came up to you and asked you that question? I would immediately be like, what is wrong with you? Yeah. That, yeah, that was sadistic. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Never have ever brought the receipts to prove a point in an argument, like showed the text message, showed the emails. Oh, I think I've done that, but I don't know, probably on Housewives or, yeah, yeah.

Like, I'm not, I don't really have a paper trail, like kind of, like, things go by. I remember, you know, I remember, was it something like Lisa Rinner? I said, oh, God, I hardly ever speak to you on the phone calls. I've got receipts. Ten phone calls. And I'm like, well, that's hard to you. You're like 10 phone calls. It's nothing.

If I liked you, I'd have called you 10 times this morning. Yeah, exactly. So, I don't know, such nonsense. Are you good at keeping secrets for people? Very good. Yeah, very good. Do you like a vault? Yeah.

I love that. Yeah. That's good. But it's not because I'm loyal because I forget. I love sassies. you stop they tell you like this deep dark secret a couple months later so hold on a second was it you that shack oh yes maybe okay never have i ever participated in swinging no oh but my parents have no yes wait how did you know well it was the 60s oh my god my father's still alive

I hope this doesn't kill him. This doesn't go to England, does it? This is what ends at all? Stop, how did you know your parents were swinging? I remember them talking about the 60s. You know, they were like young, newly married, and everybody was kind of doing that a bit, you know. They didn't give me details.

I think they gave details to my nephew. They're one of their grandsons. And I was like, oh, I really don't want to even think about that. When I saw, you know, John Hamm. And I didn't, yeah, and I heard, I didn't know about his. nether regions as well somebody told me that afterwards i was saying john ham and they went well you know about john ham oh did he have a big penis no no but they were talking about it as many i mean

it should have its own instagram apparently i said that but i mean there were these pictures of saying oh really yeah no but it was covered it was decent but it was but it was big but yeah but we were laughing oh and you're like oh ken should we swing to the left over here with john oh no you'd have to wait me up give me a cup of tea first. No, no, no, I don't have the energy for swinging. Has anyone ever approached you to swing? I think I might have had hints, you know, but it's kind of insulting. I would like people to approach me on a daily basis.

If you're listening to this, you want to swing? Please ask me. No, it's like, I think I was so obsessively, I'm a little jealous as well. I think obsessively in love with my husband, getting married so quick and being so young. you couldn't see him with another woman no I don't really want to share him I could have somebody I don't think that would be quite what he was envisaging

like oh see that really handsome guy should we swing with him that's probably not what he would be up for or if you're super jealous you would like be with the other woman's like husband and you'd be like hanging up looking at my shoulder exactly I'd be like oh my god

can't be on all fours like I'm like And I'll be like, what? What's he doing? I'd be way more interested in what he was doing than what I was doing. I'm upset. No, I haven't. The answer, never have I ever. Never have ever.

I'm probably at this stage you're not going to. That's kind of sad. It's okay, but you know. Well, mind you how I put it out there now. Maybe I'll get lots of opportunities. Oh, I bet there's going to be so many people now, Lisa. So many people. Oh, I'll pass.

I'd rather have a cup of tea. Okay. Okay, never have I ever? Well, when you'd be married, as long as I have. Like, how many, let's think, so, four. 42 years, so that's going to be like 14,000 days, roughly. Do you think there's anything that I haven't done that I need to do? Probably not.

I mean, there's things I haven't done, but there are things I haven't done that I haven't wanted to do. Have you ever, like, are you? No. No. I'm like, do you want me to ask you a couple sexual questions? No, not really, but go on. Okay. Never have I ever shared a secret with a castmate, and then they went and shared it on camera.

Gosh, I don't remember that. I'm sure it's happened. No, but I do remember. Now, I haven't watched Beverly Hills. I don't care what anybody says. I haven't watched it. I've seen sometimes snippets on Twitter where they'll have like a little screen thing

and you click on it. I think, oh, I wonder what's going on. It was Erica Jane and Kyle. And she said something like, Erica Jane said, oh, you said, I'm glad that everybody's going to see how mean Kathy is or what she's really like. You know, and Kyle turned around and said,

you know, that was supposed to be between us. no no yes and I said oh my god yeah no but that feels like a theme in reality TV where wasn't it like la la and katie in the reunion it was like la la was upset with katie because she's like you literally said that you were like basically hating on ariana to me off camera and then you're acting all nice on camera I don't like that I think it's just keep it straight and also as I say I my mind's so of other things, I find that it's much easier just to play the one, you know, play it as it is. Because I can't remember what's on camera, what's off camera, what I did yesterday, what I did today. And it's just like when people say, oh, you're lying. My memory's not good enough to lie.

I have to speak from experience. You know what I mean? I remember things concisely, you know, absolutely when I experience them. If I'm making it up, I don't remember what I made up. That's a good point. Yeah, no, no. Do you think, though, now people with social media are getting like too afraid to act certain ways in front of camera because of what like the public and the comments are going to say. I think the most popular reality stars are people that are truly authentic and don't give a fuck. I mean, I think one of the best reality stars I've ever worked with is James Kennedy and he's got it wrong on so many levels. So good. And he's seen so much growth with him. He's so entertaining. Do you think that I still have the infamous scene back in the day

when he was talking to Lala, and they're like yelling about pasta. And everyone was like, this has to be about drugs. This has to be cocaine. Do you think it's actually about pasta? No, I think it's not about that. Yeah, it's not about the pasta. That was one of the funniest scenes. I think, yeah, that is one.

It was kind of iconic that it was on T-shirts after. I don't know, really. I mean, they've both been pretty open. Yeah. And I think I love the duo together. I can't imagine those two. When they say they've had sex a couple of times, like that just doesn't seem to me how do they ever get there those two i don't mean it doesn't make

sense to me either i feel like she's such a woman either you can't text i'm not i'm looking like because my meeting's at 1130 no it's 10 50 yeah you have time 10 51 i do oh oh my god i actually can't picture lalla and him having sex either because i feel like the cup of tea that they offered me when i first came in was so nice said no one ever we're supposed to get you tea oh they said would you like anything i said oh cup to be great never happened can someone text charlie for a cup of tea yeah how how much tea do you drink during the day a lot probably too much really yeah but more tea than alcohol which is kind of unique do you ever spike your tea a little bit what was alcohol yeah no it was quite is that a good idea oh no i don't think i don't drink in the day very rarely you never see me

drink i think you can spike your tea a couple times and see where it takes you Lisa well yeah yeah I got here without it, really. I probably don't need it. Do you think you'll ever be friends with any of the women again from housewives? Let me think about that from a moment. No, no. Well, I think if there's a true apology

and actually somebody says, you know what, I really regret it and I'm really sorry. I said that and I know I tried to humiliate you or whatever, then yes, there would always be room but you'll never get that from them. Are you someone that holds grudges? Yeah, I do.

Fuck off. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to hold the grudge. I mean, I won't hold a grudge till it's like if it's detrimental to me. If it's like, you know, if it's eating away at you and you're angry about it, then I think you've got to sort it out. But if holding a grudge is mean I'm done and I don't want to, because I know who you are, I see who you are, you don't have the best intention for me. Now, that's a grudge.

But if it's something that's eating away at you that you have that feeling your stomach, that's not healthy. I'd rather get rid of that. Like I haven't really been angry about, you know, housewives. I mean, I get asked about it a lot. I really very rarely ever bring it out myself. But if it was eating away at me or something like that, then I think, okay, I need to sort this out.

So I would always say that as advice. If it's eating away at you, you need to deal with it. But if you could actually go, oh, I'm done. And if that's a grudge, yeah, hold it. Hold it tightly. I completely agree because I feel like a grudge for me. I'm like, I want to normalize having grudges more. If you know what someone is, even if they apologize to,

me sure clear the air, but I still don't like you. Yeah, and that's okay. Exactly, that's okay because if I thought you were a good person and you weren't and I got it wrong before and now you've shown me the old expression, you know, for me once, for me twice, but or shame on, shame on you, shame on me, you know, that's, so no, that's a garage, yeah, I'm all about that. We love a garage. I'm not going to be, yeah, I'm not going to be stupid.

You know, it's just like if somebody screws you financially in business, you're not going to lend the money again. How about that? Period. Right. Okay. Let's talk about Vanderpump Rules. Learn from your mistakes, my girls.

Okay, the original cast were employed at your restaurant, and you were their boss. Yes. What is the most insane thing you've had to fire someone for? Oh, all kinds of things over the years, running restaurants. I mean, of course, the shagging in the back and everything. I mean, God, I mean, that's stealing and... Oh, stealing? Oh, of course.

Not on Vanderpump Rules. I mean, in the restaurant business, I've seen so many things. Oh, my God. Just even with people coming in. I mean, imagine you have your house open and you have maybe a thousand people come through that door every night. At some point, you're going to go, what the fuck? How often are they having sex?

Not just that, but where's my, where's the big mirror in my bathroom? How did they get it out there during lunch? You know, stupid shit, you know, like you think, oh my God. Yeah, there's been a lot of creative ways of stealing. that we've caught, you know, that you think, you know, people bring their own liquor and things like that. Yeah, I mean. Stealing a mirror and wine.

Yeah, yeah. That's insane. Yeah, many different things. Okay, I didn't realize that sir stands for sexy, unique restaurant. It doesn't start. We just put that up next to it, but it was south in Spanish because remember, I bought into that restaurant when it was about a tenth of the size to get my visa. because I was in the restaurant business

and we wanted to stay here. So we thought, do what we know best. Yeah. Okay. What is your most sexy and unique quality, Lisa? I'm very tactile. I mean, you saw the way I make up with my dog. Imagine that. You know, like I am like very, yeah.

Listen, you see the way I do flowers. You see the way I run a business. You see the way I decorate. You see the way I'm with my dog. You see the way I'm. I'm like a perfectionist. So, of course, as a lover, and this isn't to those people that want to swing with me because I'd really be a big disappointment.

But I'm talking about in the past. If there are a couple of people that approach me to swing, forget it. I'm too lazy for that now. But I'm a perfectionist. So I think even making love, I could be a perfectionist. Oh, Lisa. Right? That was a good answer.

That's sexy, isn't it? Even you're thinking, oh my God, who was this one? Yeah, that was, I'm just trying to picture it. I'm like, oh, my God, it's so sensual. Okay, that's a good answer. Okay, if you had to pick, which Vanderpump rules cast member were you most like in your 20s? Any cast member from all seasons.

I think I'm quite a lot like Starcy in a way. I'm not chucking people, chucking drinks in people's faces, but I was always kind of out for, Starcy sees the funny side. Starcy, you know, it was such a, a discercing. disappointment to me when she was let go, but it was a sign of the times. Everybody was, you know, reacting to what was going on in the world. And I agree, I understood that.

But I think that if we all look back on what we did when we were younger, you know, like everybody makes some mistakes. Yeah. I think that's the whole point of growth, you know. And as I say in this new show, Gordon Ramsey's show, seeing people how they developed. Oh my God. How I saw the growth in the show of people like, they came in like this and they left like this so that's to me one of the most exciting things and i think stasi's taking it and run

with it which i i think is great i agree i think she had like one of the most iconic like character arcs in that show of just like how she started and with jack i don't give a fuck and i'm going to say exactly what i want to say that makes for the best tv like you said james kennedy yeah no apologies yeah um that group over the years has been like kind of like a little incestuous like everyone's kind of getting a little they've all shacked each other oh my god a little what's a lot then according to you please define any greater incest than i have shown you in that group please i was trying to be like okay just like calm about it don't try and be anything just tell it how it is what is your stance on like that concept of like homie hopping of like everyone kind of like

getting with each other's friends and getting with each other's boyfriends and girlfriends Well, I mean, there's only a few dynamics left, too. Like, there is all gone and done, right? Who would we need to hook up? Lala and Schwartz, do you think it would ever happen? I wouldn't mind that, actually. I wouldn't mind that. You wouldn't?

I mean, Schwartz is very kind. He's kind, but, like, he can't stand up for shit. I know, I know. And Lala needs someone to be like, yeah, I agree with you. I back you. He can't even, like, back himself. Yeah, but maybe you could just carry the baby around and say yes, and cuddle and stuff. I've always found him adorable.

I know he got it totally wrong. I'm upset. There's been a lot of drama. But obviously the biggest thing was Scandival that took the internet. Ariana got a lot of heat this season. because she didn't want to film with Tom in specific moments. Like, what is your take on that whole thing?

Well, I think it was just because the juxtaposition of her living with him and then saying, no, I won't have that conversation with him. That was what was frustrating. I think maybe if she'd drawn a line in the sand and said, that's it. I don't want to see him ever again. Hope he falls off the side of a cliff.

But, you know, it was all very, you know, I wasn't on Tom's side at all, but I was on the side of empathy. and when the whole world was against him I've talked about this many times sitting at the White House correspondence dinner and they bring it up, sitting in Adele's concert they bring it up, seeing it on CNN's headline,

it was kind of, the punishment didn't fit the crime. And I mean, of course I don't condone what he did in any shape or form, but I think when the whole world's against you, sometimes it's a very dangerous thing for, as I saw my brother and you feel there's no way out at that time and the ovary, you know,

so when he sat and told me, I wouldn't use all of it, but he sat and told me. And I said, as an executive producer, guys, you have to use this. You have to be honest and show him, you know, in this moment of just like the suicide ideation scared me. Now, whether some people say, you know, oh, he's acting or, oh, it's not true, it's not authentic, I don't give a shit.

I have experienced suicide firsthand with my brother. And for me, I'd rather not take that chance. So I felt that he did so many great things as well for people over the years. I mean, you know, I was talking to Israel. Do you remember Israel who actually now works for me? He was telling me how when he used to sleep on the floor, Sannibal used to pay his rent so he wouldn't, you know. So Sannibal has a lot of good components.

Do you, he has a girlfriend now, right? Yes. How can, do you think he's going to cheat on her? Yes. I don't know. Maybe this is the one. No. Maybe this is the one.

I don't think that Sandoval, from my knowledge, is that sexually motivated. Because I think he said that, I just don't think he's that kind of guy. You know, where there's a lot of guy that's going to drag anything. I don't think he's like that, but I think this girl apparently is gorgeous. Oh. No, I thought the tea was coming. Is it coming? So is Christmas.

They're working on it. I think they probably didn't know, like, if they were allowed to interrupt. Because sometimes I'm like, lock the door, don't come in here. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. I'm like, get out of my studio. Oh, okay. Let's talk about you being.

What kind of boss are you? I'm like, I'm locking myself in this room. Don't bother me. Because I don't want to interrupt. That's good. What if you were saying something so brilliant and the door. Probably not going to happen. I feel like it kind of ended this season and it was like the friend group is a disaster.

We've been in that place before. But do you think it's going to continue? Like, well, I think the thing is with this show. is I think that people feel very attached to it because they've grown up with it and there's been at some point somebody will identify with one of them in a group and I think that it will be hard for people

really to let it go so do I think it would be back yes do I think it needs to breathe yes am I totally busy and so you know opening another restaurant yes so I think let's just give it a minute let everybody live their life I have a pitch for you go on then I say No, because, yeah, because I'm so busy.

I think that the next season of Vanderpump should be you getting everyone in a room. Yes. And firing all them. Oh. No swinging. You're like, Lala, get over here, Katie, get over here. And you fire all of them. Yeah.

And you push them to a different show that's more like grown up or whatever. And you bring a whole new cast in and you start fresh and everyone works at Sir and it's all young talent. And these kids like have no Instagram following. yet and you start fresh. Like, I would die to watch kids back in at Sir, like, trying to make it in the acting or modeling agency and, like, get back at it. And I have many of them, but I do have three shows on the air right now. I know, I know, but we're, I'm living L.A., so I'm, like, addicted to the L.A., but I know, I know. You know what? From your mouth to God's ears, that might be a thought. Can you imagine the season? Here's your tea. What is this?

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Black tea with milk, green tea, or herbal tea? black tea with milk and I like your dungeries I said that when I came in I like your dungeries yeah what do you what are you overalls overalls no they're dungarees yeah which one black tea and milk try it try them all I'm worried about it I'm worried about it too you know I never understand why people leave the tea bag in it what do they say expect us to chew on it my assistant's gonna fucking start crying she's literally like okay let's try it black tea and milk yeah you can just it on the side table it doesn't matter yeah i mean i like the color of the cup it's pink it's cute yeah but

the tea's a disaster oh no awful oh it's you wanted it black no i wanted it lighter light the color of the wood it's a disaster past it's really nice oh i love this tea no said no whatever no my assistant's crying in the corner now it's better nothing i love her dungrees i told you I love her dungarees. We say overalls in with an American overalls. Overalls. Oh my God. You like it?

Wait, say. Should I speak with American accent all the time? Wait, yes. You like that? Say cheeseburger. Cheeseburger. Oh, this really works for me. Say, say, donut.

I love call her daddy. Donut, I love call her daddy. Or do you like it like this? Donuts, I love call her daddy. What do you fuck? So do you like my pitch? I can't say, but... You like it.

There's not necessarily your pitch. Somebody might have got there before you. Okay, but like the drama of everyone getting fired. Oh, I'm not going to start opening. I have a loyalty to these people. No, but you wouldn't actually be firing. I say, welcome back. I've signed you back.

Just for one episode. Bye. No. There are still stories to tell. Oh, Lisa! Okay, what projects? Obviously, this season is wrapped. So talk to me about your other projects.

Gordon Ramsey, that was epic, working with him for two months. I mean, Gordon's like a lot to handle. So I thought, okay, but we knew each other before. So I knew that it was going to be backwards and forwards, you know. But I think for him, it was very different because normally he's the authoritarian and everything he does. And then he met me. So, yeah, it's definitely a different show. Did you put him in his place?

Well, yeah, I kind of enjoyed doing that little. bit. Oh, you got a little excited. Well, actually, not a little bit. A lot. A lot. Okay, last two questions. What is the best part and worst part

of essentially living your life on TV? I don't like it when people lie about you. That's the worst part. The best part, there are so many beautiful things that have been forever documented, good times, bad times.

My daughter's wedding. My little grandbaby crawling across, you know, the carpet. Like, I mean, when we filmed him, you know, just once or twice, Vanderpump Villa, seeing the beauty and the experience that we all had there. Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful moments. Really, really. My life hasn't changed that much.

Not like some people when they, you know, on television. I mean, of course, the fame and everything, but I spent a lot of time at home. I'm still in my restaurants. But, you know, when you met me on television, I had a beautiful house. I'd had 37 restaurants prior to that. We'd sold, you know, and I had a, you know, a nice lifestyle. It wasn't like some people they start and then they get this incredible lifestyle and don't know how to handle it. My life materially hasn't changed.

You're not always, but I mean when you first met me. Yeah, exactly. So that hasn't changed. But the incredible experiences that I've had. Being able to go to Congress to change laws about humane treatment of dogs. Congress watched Housewives. I mean, so having access to so many things being voted, you know, one of the women of the year by State Assembly, like just, I mean, speaking at causes that I'm passionate about, being given so many opportunities. Can't minimize that ever.

What do you think is the biggest misconception about you that I'm a high mate? I don't mind people thinking that. I just feel really sometimes I'm thinking, oh, am I disappointing them when I shut up on my own. And I'm doing my own makeup, I'm thinking maybe they would like me to be like certain members of housewives when I had, you know, all this shit and people running around after me. I can't even get a cup of tea in this place. Okay, I feel like I have to ask you. Go ahead. It's my last question.

I just need to know now that you've told me all these little things. Yes. Lisa Vanderpump. Yes. What is your favorite sex position? Oh, God, it's so long ago. I don't remember. but I think it's on my back asleep.

And on that note, good night. Wiesha, thank you so much for coming on. This was so fun. Thank you. I saw that would have been your first question. That's what I was prepared for. I actually said, Bob, are they going to be talking about sex all the time?

So it's going to be a very short interview if they do. I mean, I could ask you if you have any blowjob tips. Oh, yeah, all of them. Just all of it. Just do it, swallow it whole. Bye, darling. Love you. Oh, my God.

I have to go. Jop our tear. Not we go. Thank you. Of course, thank you. You're hilarious. Oh, my God. No, thank you so much.

You finally got your tea? Yes, and it ain't that good. It's better than nothing. You know,