Call Her Daddy - Lottie Moss: Threesomes, Toxic Men & Only Fans

Episode Date: April 27, 2022

This week Father Cooper sits down with Lottie Moss. Sure, she’s supermodel Kate Moss’ little sister, but Lottie has stepped out of the shadows and paved a path of her own. Lottie opens up about the dark and destructive nature of the modeling industry, how they permitted her drug use, and even encouraged it. After a recent and very public stay in rehab, Lottie took ownership of her life and cut out the toxic people. Lottie dishes on her move to LA and her venture into the Only Fans industry. She walks us through a day in the life while shooting content and hits us with story time to remind us that threesomes aren’t always all smiles (they sometimes end with you crying alone in the corner). And stay till the end…Alex and Lottie provide detailed advice on how to take the ultimate nude. Enjoy! 

what is up daddy gang it is your founding father alex cooper with call her daddy lottie moss welcome to color daddy thank you for having me how are you feeling i am so nervous to be on here but i'm actually you know i'm so excited as well it's so nice to meet you and be here loving the outfit yeah i'm doing all leather I feel very Julia Fox I know you had her on here as well so without the eyeliner I'm doing Julia Fox today I'm obsessed with her I'm obsessed what did you do today like how was your morning so my morning was great I woke up and went to the gym this morning actually I know I woke up like 8 30 went to the gym I was craving a coffee but I was like I need to gym fast and then I got my coffee with my manager before do you go to the gym every morning I could lie and be like yeah I'm the healthiest person

ever but I'm not gonna lie about it no I try to go to the gym as much as possible like especially in the recent months I feel like it just really for me it's not even like for my body and stuff which is also very important for me but it's genuinely meant mentally it gets me in the mood every morning like I can't I don't know how people do's genuinely meant mentally it gets me in the mood every morning like i can't i don't know how people do in the evenings but people the gym in the evenings you're psychotic also the worst is when you're like oh i'll work out later no you're not yeah you're not don't even lie to yourself you're that little voice in your brain goes i know you're lying so shut up it's either in the morning or it's not happening it's not happening i don't i

need to wake up and blindly just go i need to not even think about it because if i think about it then i'm like i'm not going no that's actually such a good point like i have to go immediately or even if i linger i literally i woke up this morning like barely literally opened my eyes and i was like just putella this year I just I just couldn't be bothered this year I didn't plan it well enough this year you know I have you ever gone I've I've been I mean before COVID and everything I went four years in a row I think yeah but I went with work so I was always like working out there and doing that so I never yeah but I went with work so I was always like working out there and doing that so I never like I had fun out there but I was always there was always like something else in the back of my mind that I had to be doing you know these like pay posts and

things like that so yeah but I think next year I want to plan it I want to get my own house with my friends and do that this year I didn't know people were going every single person I feel like I saw on TikTok was like Coachella was basically the new like fire festival and everyone was like it was miserable and I'm like wait everyone slated everyone's outfits I was like I didn't think they were that bad I didn't either I think what it is I think why people are pissed about the outfits is because they're kind of doing similar outfits but maybe it's just because like it's not as like cool anymore because you've seen it every year I don't know but people are yeah but I mean there is a Coachella like vibe that you go for like there's a vibe there's something that you wear and it's like oh that's very coachella do you know what i mean yes it's a festival it's festival season everyone

wears kind of the same things to festivals that's what also i was annoyed because i saw people like shitting on influencers for like going all out and dressing up and then like some of the high-end celebrities as you're just wearing in like jeans and t-shirts yeah i saw kylie jenner wearing like full jeans and t-shirt like like this sort of jacket and i was like oh my god i love that i love that and i mean she doesn't need to try at all but i also feel like don't shit on the influencers like they were having fun there were some people like you must feel so embarrassed that you got dressed up why they were having fun yeah it's the one time of the year where you're like in a nice house you're going to like coachella it's a music exactly

you're seeing everyone you know as well so you want to look like hoz so you didn't have oh my god did you just censor yourself you can say I know I was scared to say the f word you're like guys I'm from England so I'm like you can curse on color daddy I'm scared too I think I've been because I've been pr'd before this I'm like ah no oh my god are you kidding color daddy started and I was like so the dick is gonna slide into the pussy and then like I was like talking so now I know I remember like your first few like episodes and things like that and it was very like explicit yeah but that's why I loved about it and that's what I love about you because I'm a very I

talk very openly and very explicitly and because of what I've come from like with modeling and stuff it wasn't like okay to talk about those things oh so openly and I just I've come from, like with modeling and stuff, it wasn't like, okay to talk about those things. Oh, so openly. And I just, I've always been that kind of person. Like I grew up watching like the guys next door and like, I grew up watching the simple life and things like that.

So I'm just, I've just automatically become like, yes, you're like my own version. Yeah. I am the same way. And I don't get why people like, I get it why people censor themselves,

but I'm also like, I love people that don't cause I'm like, just be real. Talk how you want to talk. Like, thing i think but i think it's fine sex is one of the most natural things in this whole world everyone has sex do you know what i mean so why is it so taboo to speak on and like even like the word fuck it's a it's a great one it is it gets your point across it's such a good word it's my favorite word it's it really you're right it does get your point across. It hits it home.

It gets where you need to go. It truly does. Okay, so you recently moved to LA. I did. So basically, I'm in the process of moving right now. So I need to still get my visa and everything like that sorted. But I'm so excited to move here. Because I actually moved here like two years ago when COVID started.

Listen to this. This is so my luck too. So I actually moved here two years ago when COVID started. to this this is the what this is so my luck too so i actually moved here two years ago when covid started it had it hadn't started it was the beginning of 2020 i packed up all my stuff in london like uh december 2019 packed up everything moved all my stuff over there 21 big boxes moved it all over i was like perfect this is gonna happen for me i get this like amazing apartment in west hollywood i'm like oh this is gonna happen for me I get this like amazing apartment in West Hollywood I'm like oh this is so amazing I bring my dog over everything and then I come back for three days

after a month and a half being there I come back for three days for a job and someone steals my Louis Vuitton purse with my passport everything in it so my visa's gone everything right yeah so I what I'm dying as well. This is, I mean, this is like as bad as it could get. And then my phone's stolen, everything, right? And then I realized, and then COVID happened. So I can't come back to the US because the embassy closed. So I have a huge apartment in LA that's just sat there

with all my stuff in there, just like, and I had to give away my dog. It was, I mean, it was a really hard time for me. Wait, your dog was time your dog was in LA yeah my dog was in LA so I'd left her for three days like I didn't I thought I was coming back I was like oh I'm gonna come back it'll be fine and then three days turned into a year or two years or something until I could come back into the country yeah that's what happened it was the fact that you had to leave your basically child my child yeah my chihuahua yeah like I flew her over here and everything I was so excited to live here and like it was tragic and then like

so I had my friend looking after it and luckily she she looked after it so well and then we eventually found a home for her so what's her name Lulu she's adorable I would lose my mind but the fact that and so you were just in London for an almost entire quarantine yeah I was in London so I stayed at my sister's house for like two months three months until you know when it was like the big lockdown where you couldn't leave your house yes and I was actually at my sister's anyway staying with her in the countryside luckily and then they announced lockdown and I was like okay fine I'm good with this big house in the countryside I will stay here I was with family and it was nice like it was nice because I think I would have really struggled

in LA being by myself in my apartment locked in my apartment like everything was closed like even like Trader Joe's didn't have like kitchen you draw toilet paper and things like that sorry I say toilet you guys say toilet what did you guys say um the restroom wait don't you say the loo no yeah we say the loo too yeah toilet yeah the toilet yeah but you say to go to the toilet yeah we say yeah no we just call that as more of like an object yeah you say the bathroom which is like the whole room in itself like do you even have a word for the toilet on caller daddy today we're talking about the toilet okay so you give people a little background in your life yeah you have two way

older half siblings growing up did you feel like an only child yes 100% yeah because I so my dad obviously got divorced from their mom and married my mom I think five or ten years later and then they had me so I did I was I was alone living at home with them so I did feel like the only child I loved it I love being the only child I was like that hot you know what I mean like I was the only one that they loved like in the house like I loved it was great um so what was your relationship like with your like siblings growing up since they were so much older like were you close i mean we were not close because of the fact that there was such a big age gap obviously they were way older than me they had

their own lives like when i was born my sister was 21 22 so it she was much older than me because aren't you you're closer in age almost to your half sister's daughter yeah i am i'm actually yeah i'm i'm much closer in age with my niece she's uh 19 so it's and I'm 24 so it's actually crazy that we are so close but I think that will make us closer like in the future one of your half siblings was the biggest supermodel in the world at the time Kate Moss what do you remember growing up since you were there was such a different age gap like about realizing your sister was that big you know it's so funny because people would say like when I was younger people would be like oh my god your sister's cameos i didn't really get it i was like

okay and your sister's so and so from down the street like i don't really understand how that's different this was the first time i think i realized that she was famous was when we used to go out for lunch together and it wouldn't be at her house because a lot of the time we'd go to her house when i was younger yeah because it was obviously easier with the paparazzi and stuff and when my when i was younger that was when the paparazzi used to be crazy because there was no social media so it was crazy when there was paparazzi outside her house or outside restaurants it was 20 paparazzi it wasn't like two guys that are like standing outside your car it was 20 paparazzi and they were like they were hardcore

you know there were a few things that were massive invasions of privacy because obviously it was 20 paparazzi and they were like, they were hardcore, you know? There were a few things that were massive invasions of privacy because obviously it was a time when a lot of paparazzi were actually climbing into celebrities' back gardens to take pictures. And there was one point I remember when there was a guy in a van sat outside my sister's house and I opened the window in my sister's bathroom, which was like the top floor

because it was a big like townhouse. I opened the thing and I saw the guy standing there. I was like, shit. So I had to like close the, close the window. Were you scared? I wasn't scared. I was just like, oh my God. Like, but I think it's made me so much more used to it now.

I mean now like celebrities have an easy run compared to what it used to be like. Obviously it's awful like what they were doing, but it's just genuinely for me, it's like even, it's almost like a documentary when you watch those videos of paparazzi and how aggressive they were right how many of them there were i can't believe this the amount of them that's like 50 of them did your parents try to like shield you from the spotlight or was were you kind of just like involved in it when you were i

mean i don't think my parents even knew how to really handle it my dad's from like east croat like from croydon and he's like a very small town guy like didn't really expect for this to happen um and my mom's kind of saying my mom's from norway and she's you know very like chilled and whatever and i just think they didn't really know how to handle it so when i got the opportunity to do it i don't think they kind of understood how much of an effect it would have on me. Did you feel pressure to follow in your sister's footsteps or did you always want to be a model yourself? So I never really had a moment to think about it, honestly.

So I was first scouted at my sister's wedding when I was 13. At my sister's wedding. So basically I was in a lot of the press pictures because there was one moment with my sister and her husband at the time and all of the bridesmaids and we all went outside the church and there was loads of paparazzi obviously and they had to kind of just let it happen but they had like a railing and stuff and they were taking pictures of everyone and then a few days later in the press there was all the pictures came out and they were like who is this and my i was like sorry that i took your uh your shine kate it's not your wedding day anymore like kate you looked great but what about

me yeah i looked sensational you look great but look at me well so you were scouted at 13 years old i was scouted at 13 and after the wedding and all those pictures came out and they were like who's this this is like kate's sister and things and they'd never really known that and the agency that i was with at the time called me in and And yeah. And were you excited or were you nervous? Like, do you remember? Because I honestly like, I don't even really remember it. Like I was so young and they were like, we'll start you off with some test shots. I was so, I was so excited though.

I was like, I do remember being like, oh my God, this is so exciting. So I got to go up to London and I was never from London. So I was from like a seaside town, which was down South. And so when I went to London, I was like, this this is so like fabulous and like the city life and stuff I just thought it was all so cool okay so you have a very recognizable last name how did that affect your early experiences in the modeling industry I mean obviously I will say and I will sit here and say that I was privileged with how I managed to get into the modeling industry like you know but everyone else if they if their sister was capable I'm sure that they would have taken the same opportunity as I did you know I was young and they it was exciting and they were like

you know you get to go on photo shoots and wear these amazing clothes and I was like oh my god this is so exciting that was definitely I had privileges 100% and I will sit here and admit that um because obviously you know I got the I got way better jobs very early on you know and I didn't have to do the whole casting situation as much I literally just went and did I was direct bookings so I just got direct you know direct books I did I did um I was on the cover of French Vogue when I was 18. That is fucking incredible and iconic. It was crazy. When that happened, like what was going on in your head? What was going on in your life?

Like how did you feel? See, this was the thing. Like I was so young and I was still kind of, I think I was actually still at school at the time. So I had to be, I was, when I was doing modeling very early on at 17, 18, I was getting taken out of school to do modeling. And they were like, look, you've got this modeling career. They were like, you can't do university, which is like college and do this at the same time. So it's just not going to work out with the timings and things like that.

So I was like, right, I'm going to focus on modeling then. What were you like in high school? Like, were you ever, cause I know it can go either way. Like, are you bullied for having like a kind of a famous family or like, were you kind of popular? Do you know what?

I got along with everyone at school. I'm a very social person. And I, this was one of my problems at school as well because I was so social I didn't want to do any of the work so I was just I was just nice to everyone genuinely I'm just I'm quite like easy to get along with I went to a state school which is where you don't pay yeah and then I went to private school when I was 17 I paid for my own private school I paid for my own school fees yeah through your modeling through my modeling yeah I paid for my school fees so like I I really hustled I did it myself you know and I think a lot of people don't know that like I didn't get any money for my sister or anything when I was younger which we shouldn't you know

like it's my mom and my dad we didn't need money from her do you know what I mean so we just had you know what we had and we weren't that well off but it was fine and you knew you were gonna be a star I knew I was ever since that wedding photo you were like put me in coach yeah I was like I've got a career ahead of me okay so obviously with modeling there's so many things that come with being in the modeling industry with regard to like body image and how it can affect a model how did modeling affect your relationship to your body I mean it was always very tricky I went to sit her in line and say like oh like you know I'm so confident in my body like even though

I know I have a good body and I'm like I'm not going to sit and like slate myself but I everyone has insecurities I was super insecure I was a young kid going into modeling at like 13 14 years old and I mean I was told by people in the industry that I had to lose weight to do modeling and there was one point where I had to do New York Fashion Week and I had to they told me I had to get down to a 23 inch waist um and I think it was like 34 hips or 32 hips and they're like you have to get down to that size so I worked out I was 18 I worked out until I got down to that size. I ate one piece of toast a day. And then lo and behold, I got there and I wasn't tall enough. And this is the thing, like it was for me,

it was more my height that I was really insecure about. It wasn't even my body because I've always been quite slim, but I was really insecure about my height. And they were trying to make me be like this like high fashion model. I was like, but I'm five foot five. I'm like looking up at the castings that these girls like hello right you're like I can only wear such high heels until I like literally topple over like exactly yeah yeah that was my biggest insecurity so my sister's I think five

foot seven so she's just on the cusp of being like tall enough but for me I mean I'm five foot five like and this is a hard thing like I look back in it now and I'm like no wonder like I had like problems and things like that in the future because I was so like you know I was kind of pushed into doing these things and getting to a certain weight and doing that but like I'm surprised I never got an eating disorder from modeling like I've never had any problems with eating but this is the thing am I not good enough by myself just who I am and my body is that not good enough right because now in the fashion industry it's very like body positive when I started I can tell you it was not that way it was not were drugs and alcohol and like partying kind of like pretty normal around everyone you were surrounded by the lifestyle

yeah when did you first experiment with drugs I mean I was I was about 18 I think when I first experimented with drugs but actually no I was a bit younger when I was smoking weed and things like that but um yeah it was just part of the industry like it was very much accepted um I was also like given it in a lot of scenarios um with people in the industry when do you remember your drug use going from like experimental to abuse I think it's a horror it's a horrible topic isn't it it's like it is really like it's an intense one but I think it's so important to talk about because I think so many people in this industry struggle with and I'm still around people and I see them struggling with that but it's so normalized which is so sad like I think I I just thought it was normal because I was going to these events going to these parties and I was so exhausted that that was the only way that I was

getting through it like and a lot of the time I was I would show up to set and I would not be happy and I wanted to I didn't want to do it I'd be crying my eyes out and they'd be like well we'll just get you some drugs and like you can have a drink and then you can you'll be fine you know what I mean it was very much like that like oh you'll do this shoot whether you're sober or not like it's gonna happen to you you know yeah it was like I mean that was always how it was in in the past so for me it was a it became a coping mechanism because I was like oh this is how I've coped in the past and it seems to make everything else you know feel numb so maybe I just keep doing it in that way it's like that's how the industry rolls which like I appreciate you being honest about it

because you're right. Like it's so normalized behind the scenes. Oh, you're not in the mood. Here's a bag of cocaine, go to the bathroom and figure it out. Wow. And like when you said- It shouldn't be normalized.

I want anyone that's like listening to know that you don't feel like pressured by other people to do it, pressured in the industry to do it, at parties, anything. It's not a normal thing to do, drugs. It's not, and it shouldn't be as normalized as it is in the you know celebrity industry or fashion industry or any industry when you said that you would show up on set and you would just be like so upset and didn't want to do it like what was going through your head in those moments

I mean I was I was very unhappy with what I was doing I was not I didn't feel like I belonged ever in the modeling industry because of my height and the way that I was kind of by people in the industry they kind of made me into a person that I wasn't they wanted me to be Kate Moss part two kind of like Bella Hadid-esque looking like that like acting like that and for me that's just not me I'm a very chaotic like blonde bitch who's like show me I love that about myself I love that I'm funny and I'm a very chaotic like blonde bitch who's like show me I love that about myself I love that I'm funny and I'm interesting and I'm you know kind of chaotic and a bit crazy I kind of love that about myself but it was not accepted it just was not like every interview it was kind of like you know you just say what you're working on and doing this and being happy and you know nice and everything it was all just very like every event I went to as well everyone just happy happy and

smile everyone I remember like a moment where it was like I had to do an event and I was in Rome and I was in the hotel room and I was crying my eyes out and they were just putting makeup on like over my tears like it was bad and then they were like just do it you only have to be downstairs for an hour or two hours or whatever there was I don't think there was a lot of people in that industry that cared about my well-being I have to be real it was it was 100% we're making money off you we're making a lot of money off you I was making probably one of the most out of everyone at the agency and they knew that what did that do to like your self-worth well this is the thing I never I never felt good enough I still struggle to this day with feeling like good

enough because I mean everywhere I go I'm never going to not be Kmos's sister everywhere I go everyone knows who she is everyone has pictures of her in their house and you know it's like I do sometimes think God like well maybe I'm not but then you have to just you have to stick with it you know and like you said like I think even honestly sitting down with you I'm so excited already to release this because yeah everyone's gonna love you because you're right the unique thing about you you're gorgeous that's of course you are but like your personality i could fucking sit here all day with you you're so entertaining you're so like likable and fun to be around and so i think that sucks that like at such a young age you were kind of told like this is what we want you to be instead of like we well and every time i complained about it and i of said like I don't like this outfit or something that they put me on I don't I'm not

just not feeling this or whatever and it was kind of like yourself you're being selfish you just you know you're taking it you should be grateful for this opportunity you're being ungrateful and I just felt like I couldn't ever speak up so then taking drugs was genuinely a form of like just numbing myself I was like let's just get through this and let's just do this I was having panic attacks in my hotel rooms I was I was not enjoying myself but I felt that if I said anything I'd just be ungrateful like the amount of people that were killed for the opportunity to be a model and do what I was doing and I wasn't happy because it wasn't me was your family aware of your drug use honestly no um because I was living in London at the time and I was traveling a lot I

was traveling like three four times a week um a month sorry and I don't think I think as well because I love my mum and dad I didn't want them to be disappointed in me I didn't want them to know like because they were so proud of me too like they would put all of my like magazine covers up and makes me want to like die and I just thought oh my god like I just can't I can't break their hearts and tell them like how how bad it is and how much of a horrible time that I'm having and I mean as well when you get thrown into something at like 13 14 you don't have a minute to go what do I actually want to do with my life because you don't even know who you are at 13 you don't even know who you are

you're thrown into this and you have people telling you where you have to be who you need to talk to um how you have to act i mean there was a time when i had a boyfriend who was on a reality tv show and they were not happy about it the people who i was working for and they were like no we you have to get rid of him so you were being like very micromanaged very micromanaged i was mollycoddled to the point of like they would dress me like they would put me in the clothes and stuff wake me up in the morning like it was like i was genuine i had no idea like that it was any other way to like live life I was just mollycoddled and sent to these places and that's why I feel sad because I had such great opportunities

and I worked with so many amazing brands but I didn't truly like I didn't truly get to experience and be happy about it because of the way that it the way the situation I was in how did you deal with when your sister found out you were doing drugs was she like I mean I said I think my sister probably thought it was kind of like inevitable I don't know like I don't really know her opinion on it per se but I do I think I think it's a it's a really hard one because how do you have that conversation with someone you know me and my sister'm going to be real, I've never been that close. So, I mean, we never really spoke about it until I was in rehab and we had a phone conversation. I saw this, like, horrible article on the Daily Mail that said, like, you know, Kate's so disappointed and Lottie and she's, like, trying to save her sister and all this.

And I just felt so sad. And I called her and she was like, do not listen to them. She was great. She was like, do not listen to them. They're great. She was like, do not listen to them. They're not right. I love you. You're my sister. This is the thing.

You do start to panic on those things. And because me and my sister have never been that close, it was a factor in my mind. I was like, oh, my God. You know, does she really think this about me? Because at a point I did think, oh, my God, the world just thinks this about me. And I chose to do OnlyFans because I wanted to I wanted to empower myself I love taking nude pictures nude selfies till I die um I love taking naked pictures and I love being you know proud of my body and being empowered and things like that and I think women in the sex industry need to be you know or in the adult

industry need to be more appreciated and you know that we can we can do so many more things than just one i completely agree i cannot wait till we get to only fans because we're gonna talk about it because you're fucking crushing so you step away from the modeling agency and did you decide to separate or did they part ways with you um so i decided to part ways with them i know it said in the press yeah the tabloids are insane. Yeah, they do really just be making stuff up, don't they? They'd be making shit up left, right and center. I'm like, okay, I feel like they just pick it out of the hat

when they decide to write. Dude, I was reading the tabloids and they're like, it's because she got plastic surgery. It's because she started OnlyFans. It's because of her drug use. There were so many different reasons. I was like, which one is it then? At least if you're going to write a fake article, make up a fake reason and stick with that do you know what I mean right so why I decided to

leave them because of the fact that I just didn't think it served me a purpose anymore being with that agency um I I didn't have a great time with being with them um I kind of lost myself a lot and I felt after rehab I was like I need to get rid of anything that has been holding me back and it was really holding me back being with an agency that I don't think particularly embraced who I was um so yeah now I've signed with someone different fuck yes so just to kind of go over you. Yes. You recently went to rehab. Yeah.

When and why did you seek treatment? So I was seeking treatment. I mean, obviously I made that TikTok saying it was about, you know, but I was very depressed. I was very unhappy. I couldn't get out of bed in the morning. And it got to a point where I just thought I can't do this anymore. I don't want to be like this. I don't want to not be able to get out of bed in the morning. I want to be point where I just thought I can't do this anymore I don't want to be like this I don't want to not be able to get out of bed in the morning I want to be happy and I deserve to be happy um but I was surrounding myself with a lot of negative people which is

what happens when you're taking drugs and when you're unhappy drugs happen more and um you know it it just spiraled out of control it just got out of control and the more like negative people I was around the worse it got and then yeah so I decided to go to rehab I was just very unhappy which was the main reason when did you tell your parents that you wanted to go um they actually wanted me to go yeah they actually they could see that I wasn't doing very well and um I remember I called my mom I was like I just can't leave my bed today. Like, I'm so unhappy. And then she was like, right, you need to go. And for a long time, I pushed back and forth with my mom.

Like, and I was like, no. And then one day I was just like, no, I'm going. I'm going to go. How did the pandemic affect your drug use? Was it harder during? I think it was harder, you know, because there was nothing to do. And this was another thing as well, like boredom and stuff. You just you just you kind of drive yourself crazy I'm such an overthinker so I was just in my head so much and because this was the first time in my life I'd stopped working like when I was modeling um from about 16 years old was when I properly started working and I was

going here there and everywhere I was in LA Japan here Romania I was everywhere around the world all the time so I always had stuff to do and this was the first time in my life where I wasn't working and I was like I got the itch I was like oh my god like and then you start overthinking things I'm a massive overthinker like I have really bad ADHD and it really causes me to just overthink everything and I just got so in my head about things and you start to think negatively about yourself and think well I'm not working nobody wants to use me I'm this and I got to that point you know and it was it was really difficult yeah you posted a tiktok uh in rehab with the caption I think I took euphoria too far guys what was the reaction to that video

I mean it wasn't like good people like stop blaming euphoria on your drug problem I was like and you know what like I find a lot of TikToks like it's just humor like it's it's it's a joke like I'm sorry but like I'm also English we'd say things as a joke and I think a lot of like people take it seriously but I'm just very blunt I think I'm funny and then and also with my ADHD I think I say things maybe that I shouldn't do I just don't I'm like blah and then people are like what I get what you're saying so it was kind of like a joke at the time then people were like this isn't fucking funny exactly this isn't funny and I was like I actually did have a thing about it was like do you know what it isn't funny like drug use isn't funny

being in rehab isn't funny like but I I was in a place where I was kind of taking the humor right and making I get that it's one thing also like you're joking about kind of yourself it's not like you're like exactly I was like I'm not talking about anyone else I'm talking about myself and my experiences but also I've never spoken like this openly on a podcast or in an interview and said actually how I felt in the last few years or you know what I've been through and things like that I think people think I was just a very easy ride for me to get to the top and right you know and it was hot it was a really I had a really tough few years you know what are some of the negative comments you get on social media I mean a lot of them are like well you know she's she's not her sister or you know she's she should she

shouldn't be a model she's only like it's a lot of this nepotism which I which I do understand I see there is a lot of like in the world but I just took an you know an opportunity that I thought you know was going to be good for me and I think anyone else in my my position would have done the same thing I was actually laughing because I looked at your TikTok and I saw one girl was like where the fuck did my comment go and you were like I couldn't handle the heat today babe yeah and you just deleted it and I kind of some of them I was just I can't handle it I'm sorry like it was and it was how it was savage because I did those in rehab and then I was like fuck I shouldn't have done that because also the heat that I got from it I was like this is you know not nice this is not a good time for me to like be stirring up more shit like I'm trying to yeah

this is the thing I don't know why I do it to myself like stirring up more shit when I'm already like you know needing to heal and this is the thing I'm not going to sit in there I'm not going to sit here and say I went to rehab and it was so great and i you know it was it was tough like there were times where i felt like i need kind of needed like an outside i was like what's going on in the world because i'm you know sat at this place for 28 days and it's very tough you know it's kind of like groundhog day every day because you're doing the same thing like and it was great but there was a lot of feelings stirred up and things I don't think I was in the right position probably to have my phone what do you think was the biggest or best lesson you learned from rehab I think to

talk about things okay which is kind of why I like have decided to be so open on this podcast because I for a really long time I wasn't allowed to talk about things and I was told not to talk about things but I think it's really important too it is and it's refreshing because I also I just I'm I find it refreshing that there's other people in the world who are like me who have been through the same thing as me with you know drugs or depression or anxiety and things like that so I think it's just really nice knowing you're not alone I said it on an episode recently I was like everyone please be really careful with cocaine because the fentanyl getting mixed with the coke and people are fucking dying and it was like it's been scary the past like two years did that affect your decision to get sober i actually know someone who did die off of the fentanyl um you know

epidemic thing that's going on right now and it is it's really really sad it really is and it is it just shows you but i mean it's dangerous is. And it is, it just shows you, but I mean, it's dangerous anyway to take drugs. So it just shows you how dangerous it really can be. And you kind of mentioned earlier, you were kind of surrounded by the wrong people. When did you change or did you change your social circle? Oh, massively. I had to let go of a lot of toxic people.

I let go of a lot of them before I went to rehab because I needed to go there and not have people that were negative that were going to influence my you know sobriety in there and feeling my mental health and things like that so yeah i definitely had to cut a lot of people off but you have to take the trash out at times you've got to take the trash out but it's fucking hard like anyone listening that's like is and you know i love a toxic man oh we're gonna talk about that because it is toxic can be addicting and it is fun for a little bit but then if you're in that toxic stage with like friends or men yeah it gets too addicting and then you're like in this cycle where then like that's what you go back to every single time and it's like it's hard yeah this is the thing i think

i had a lot so many toxic things in my life and like things had to go do you know I couldn't have it all at once you're like I cannot be also now fucked up from these men fuck no there is exactly you had to take out the trash yeah okay so OnlyFans what inspired your decision to stop basically modeling and begin a career with OnlyFans so I had heard of OnlyFans through a friend of mine and she I was living with her actually at the time in God when was it I think it was 2021 so it was last year I was living with her at the beginning of last year and she was doing all these OnlyFans pictures I knew that she did it for like a little while before and she was like oh my god it's so fun you get to shoot and do all this stuff and for me i just i saw her shoot one day i was like this is what i want to do this looks so fun

have you ever shot anything nude no and but you were just like i don't give a fuck i was just like i don't give a fuck and that and your friend was in london i probably shouldn't you should have given a little bit more of a fuck but you know what like i was like i'm i've been so afraid to be who i am for such a long time i'm just gonna do it I was like, this is fun to me and this is what I enjoy. So I'm just going to do it. I encourage any woman who is proud of their body and would like to do it, should do it. What did your family think? How did you tell them?

I actually don't... Wait, did I tell them? I think I let the article come out before I told them. Why? I know, but it's such an awkward conversation to have I did explain it to them and I said this is what it is it's not you know my my parents had a very different idea of what it was before I did it and I told them that's not what it is it's a very safe website and I'm doing it very you know safe I have a manager and things like that so I'm doing it very

safely but um obviously it's you know it was hard we my mom didn't speak for a couple weeks but then she got over it and she's we have a great relationship now so that's good now is she like the mean girls mom where she's like go sweetie or she's no she's not there yet she's just being supportive yeah she's supportive she has to be she's like i love you whatever you do whatever makes you happy and i think she can see how much happier I am doing this than what I am doing modeling that's really cute what did your sister think I mean I she said the same she was like I'm super proud of you like whatever you do she I think she was also kind of happy that I'm not doing exactly what she is doing she's like get out of my lane get out of my lane find your own lane no do you know what I mean like this is something that I've wanted to do like I think so many people expected me to be

so happy with this like modeling life I'm like not everyone wants to be a model you know what I mean? Like this is something that I've wanted to do. Like I think so many people expected me to be so happy with this like modeling life. I'm like, not everyone wants to be a model, you know? Not everyone should have to do what their family does or do what their parents want to do. Yeah, it's like you almost like found your own lane. And maybe at first it was like, okay, a little jarring. Like, wait, are we okay with this? And then now your family's like, okay, she looks really happy. And that's all life should be about is just trying to be fucking happy.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. happy and that's all life should be about is just trying to be fucking happy yeah exactly exactly okay can you describe a day in the life of shooting only fans content like how do you how does it start what do you do are you with people like how does it go down give us the tea do you know what it's so fun i love it it's so fun it's literally just a bunch of like so sometimes we used to do these things at the house that i was staying up with my friend yeah who introduced me to it and we used to bring the girls over we'd get some drinks going you know smoke a little bit and just have fun and we just take our clothes off and just wear like cute underwear we once got a bentley come to the house and we all just were like lying on the bentley taking pictures like it was so cool it was so fun how

many girls are in these houses with you um so basically that was a house at the time that I was just staying in with one other girl and her boyfriend at the time. But he was doing management for girls that were doing OnlyFans and things. So he would have the girls come over and we'd shoot in the house. It was a huge house. It was a really nice house in Beverly Hills. So we just had the girls over and we were just shooting. Okay, but are those managers ever creepy with OnlyFans shit?

Do you know what no i have not run into any creepy ones but i mean my manager jordan is he's amazing he's not like that but i also know who he's worked with before like i only well i went with him because i knew that he'd worked with other people and i was like and i when i met him i was like i trust you i would never go because a lot of these guys at the moment think they're like only fans management like fuck off who's gonna tell you like yeah like just because you have a couple nfts doesn't mean you can manage some girls and only fans okay like yes calm down no that's it that's a i can totally see guys like getting way too ahead of themselves yeah shut the fuck you're not a manager bro who told you yeah you don't have the tits in the vagina so shut up right this is what i'm saying

okay how often do you shoot content? So I shoot content like three or four times a week. Wow. Yeah, but it can be as simple as just like in the mirror, just like by the pool, anything like that. So it's kind of, it's very easy to do, which is nice. What is your favorite kind of content to create for OnlyFans? I love shooting and I love shooting with other girls.

I recently just did a shoot with my friend Megan who does OnlyFans and we did an Easter shoot so I bought little bunny ears and then we did like I had this gorgeous like set from um trashy lingerie that I got and then we just did it in like this little garden it was super cute like I love it I honestly find it so fun and I create a lot of the content with other women which I really enjoy like the girl of the girls I work with photographers and you know it's nice having women around you when you're doing something like that, which I think it needs to be more female empowered. This whole only fancy. Is there anything you won't do on only fans?

Yeah. I'm, I'm not gonna, you know, have sex on it. That's the one thing. Okay. Okay.

Um, you know, shame to people who do. Oh no, no, no, no shame. It's just not for me.

Yeah. Everyone has boundaries. You've said that you're a very sexual person and that can mean a lot of different things can you explain what being a sexual person means to you it's all sexual liberation genuinely for me like i feel most liberated when i'm naked i feel you know i feel a huge power and just being very happy being sexual like I've always been talking about sex and things like that I've always found it's like a common ground as well like maybe it's because it's very social that I enjoy talking about it because I whenever I speak to people you always can have the funny sex stories do you know what I mean like talking about oh this happened with

this guy and this happened it's always a funny thing and it's something that you can relate to with everyone so I think that's why I find it just like a great topic and I love that you talk about it so much in your podcast because i'm like it's the one thing that we all relate to that's why it's so popular because it's like it's the one thing we all talk about and you do it in such an amazing like funny way you know how it should be spoken about it's so true because it's like why can men always talk about it and women why have men been speaking about it in rap songs for like the last 50 years and we can't like talk. And we talk about it and you're like, oh, that's a slut. She's a hoe. And it's like, really?

Yeah, really. Or we're just saying it exactly how you guys say it. Exactly. Women, funnily enough, women enjoy sex too. Yes. What a concept. I know. It's crazy to some people.

You also said you identify as pansexual. Yes. What does being pansexual mean to you? Pansexual means that you would go for anyone basically it doesn't matter what gender what um sexual identity they are you know it's just I just love people I'm such a people person and I genuinely I fall for my friends or you know the people that I date just based on what I speak to them yeah like I'm very like I connect with people's like insights inside their soul you know what I mean it sounds so cringy but it's true you know when did you realize all of this I mean I knew when I

was like a lot younger I was I'm the thing is I think everyone watches lesbian porn like every girl watches that's like the only porn I watch yeah exactly so I'm like I used to watch a lot of lesbian porn and then I was like hmm something feels a bit fishy here and then I was like and then I started to like girls when I was like a bit older but I never said it because I was very embarrassed about talking about it um I had a lot of like I remember the first time I slept with a girl and I told my friends well my friends my friends at the time and they were like that's so weird like how could you go down on a girl how could you do this and I was like um like I have an orgasm like I actually have a vagina she's a vagina yeah i know what i like

also like i actually get to orgasm because most men don't know what the g-spot is yeah and a girl is like i got you exactly okay so you had a little bit of judgment from friends in the beginning i did and like i always used to kind of brush it off with that kind of humor i was like i had to come but it really did like it got to me you know it wasn't it wasn't nice to hear that from your friends and like oh I don't want to change in front of you because I feel like you're gonna like try and help me I'm like don't give yourself that much credit like calm down you're not that hot I don't want to go down on you so yeah and then I think as I got older I just kind of became more open with that and when it was a point where it was becoming more accepted I thought right like

now I'm just going to say, I'll just get out there. Are you single or in a relationship? Single. Oh my God. Five years. You literally say it like it's a drought. It's,

it's really getting to me now. No, I'm joking. But no, it is. I mean, it's been a long slap. I can't lie. lie okay what are you most attracted to in a person that you're looking to date

so i mean i have had terrible terrible taste in men like actually like it's actually almost funny me and my friends like laugh about some of the situations i have been in i dated a guy and i went to his apartment in brooklyn he had a knife in his wall i'm being dead serious buddy and i i took a picture of it and then i carried on dating him i was like oh that's funny and then just carried on dating him i was like something's not right here babe I swear to god yeah so you like the toxics I like the mattress on the floor I like the you know the whole like no bed frame literally like SoundCloud rapper like I sound like Tana now me and Tana tragically have the same taste in men have you ever hooked up with the same guys, Tana?

Yes. Yes. That's a subject. That is. Have you guys got infights over it? Yeah, we had a little. Tiff. A little tiff about someone recently.

But yeah, no, we're all good now. Where the fuck do you think you got this taste from? Your dad sounds like a great guy. Do you know, this is the thing. I'm like, why do I have such terrible taste when my dad is like a great guy this is the thing i'm like why do i have such terrible taste when my dad is such a great guy i i don't know where it came from i think i just love guys who are a bit dangerous i'm like because also i think because i was told to do for so much like told what to do so much of my life i think i'm like i'm just gonna do whatever i want i'm just gonna rebel and go for like the worst guy possible. I think that makes so much sense.

Like when I, mine was different, but I like played a sport my whole life. Yeah. And very competitively. And so my coaches were always telling me what to do. So I dated the bad boy at all the time, at all costs. I'm like learning how to like sniff aerosol cans. And I'm like, wow, what are we doing here? Like my boyfriends were full degenerates, but it was because it was like, I didn't want

someone like that. I wanted to be out of control yeah and so i think maybe you'll grow out of it i i'm hoping so do you know what and actually since i've been in rehab and come out i have drastically changed my taste in man like actually and for the better because it was it was bad before like it was really bad it was like full-on like drug dealer bad like it was it was the bar was down the bar you couldn't see the bar anymore the bar was so low like and then and then i think i got mentally better and i was like actually i think i deserve better than this you're like i now no longer want to fuck my drug dealer although he was hot earlier now that i've like kind of seen the light maybe not yeah maybe not dating guys that do that and maybe like not dating guys that

have a knife in their wall you know the fact that you saw the knife and you're like oh yeah no the way i was like i slept on the mattress it's so bad i really did and it had he had satin sheets by the way like satin sheets with no bed frame i thought why are you gonna half bother like you can't half bother okay so usually it's been toxic okay so girls when you see a guy has a knife in his wall maybe run how did that relationship end um obviously it didn't turn out very well he was very angry i can tell you that no he was he was like crazy he was crazy but i mean he wasn't like abusive he was just crazy yeah yeah and it had to end it had to end yeah okay ladi have you ever been cheated on yes multiple times how did you find out do you know what i found out about one of them when i was with my ex we were actually um we were together for a few

months we were actually it was kind of like the first time we kind of called each other boyfriend and girlfriend and so we were quite early on and i got a call from my best friend who went to a university and he used to do a lot of personal appearances at different universities because he was on reality tv and um she calls me and she's like okay so a girl from this university that I know she's basically lives with another girl who has said she slept with your boyfriend I was like wow and i found out on christmas eve i know it was it's really tragic what did you do did you immediately confront so i called him and i said to him i was like i'm not even upset because i expected it he cheated on people before so i was like you know i'm not even he started crying and i was like why are you crying

isn't that the craziest thing when the guy starts crying and you're like hang on a second wait you're gonna make this about you again like and when guys cry i'm sorry yeah if you're crying about something like actually real like oh my god like i have so much i have so much sympathy and like i've had that with my ex before and he was crying about something that happened to him and his family and i was like oh my god i'm so sorry but when they're crying about that shit so they're crying because they fucked up there's nothing more just i'm like you're yeah stop crying you're crying but you couldn't even just take the snot bubble is just like and they're like they get like i'm gonna get the saliva and i'm like yeah so let's continue talking about you cheated on me this is my moment okay i get to cry you don't

all right that's literally true so he started fucking crying i'm crying he started crying and i literally i was my face i just literally went i was like stop crying i don't want to hear it um anyway like i was like it's it's just like it's this happened to me not you so but i love you oh it's always a dude when i found out my boyfriend cheated on me he made a video sobbing apologizing because i wouldn't speak to him and i'm watching this video and i'm like and the fact that there's a video too i was like why did you give this why do they think they they could have tried in every other way possible you could have just not cheated you're gonna you're gonna send me a video of you crying with you're like that's not gonna make me

anymore baby i'm sorry and you're like i now i'm so repulsed i hate the quiver okay so then you did you just break it off or did you get back with so i got back with him shocker yeah i know here i am um and i got back with him and he actually he does something really cringy to get me back so i was i was away at the time in norway with my mom with her family for christmas okay and i got back and he was like look i need you to get me back so i was i was away at the time in norway with my mom with her family for christmas okay and i got back and he was like look i need you to drive to this place i'm going to take you away for the weekend i get there and he walks out of his car and he's got a sweatshirt on that says i'm sorry he's written i'm sorry on a sweatshirt honestly i'm like crying and you got back with him and then he wrote like these like cards that he

was playing justin b but i'm sorry from his radio his stereo in his car and he was like i'm so sorry i got in the car and i was like i thought it was really cute at the time but looking back i'm like oh my god ick that is an egg go online and make a full sweatshirt of i'm no no he didn't he drew it he drew it okay that's even worse it was like gcsc art like i was like what is going on here wait was did your mom see any of this no she didn't see she dropped me off i got out of the car and then his car he started playing like justin bieber is it too late now to say i was like oh but me being like oh my god like you cheated on me so sorry so sorry and now you look back and you're like i'm like that was a dumb bitch but i was so young that i was i was 18 17 i was yeah so i was 18 19 and he was 27 so he

should have known better really than to a 27 year old blasting justin bieber with an i'm sorry with a little permanent marker right he also like didn't even color in well i was like at least give it your best shot like but i get it at the time you're like oh my god it's like the radio over the head now you look back i know i'm like well and then he did it again lo and behold surely like and i was catching you know what the worst thing about this is the fact that i was having threesomes with him and he still went on to cheat on me and i was like did he ever cheat with one of the girls who had a threesome no he didn't okay no that would have been crazy but he was still cheating on me and like lying about it and gaslighting me and making

me feel like i was crazy well you're making this man's dream anytime i'd speak to a guy he'd be like i know that you're cheating on me and stuff he was cheating on me the entire time i swear when people say that it's because they're they're cheating yeah it is when was the first time you had a threesome i was 18 when i first had the threesome was it with a guy and a girl it was with that ex yeah that motherfucker got so lucky you're so lucky with like a really hot girl too and i was like fuck did you ever have one of those awkward moments where there was like jealousy or have your threesomes gone okay so yeah the second we had two threesomes and the second one that we had it it was weird because it was a friend of mine and it got really awkward and i kind of i actually at one point like left the room.

And it carried on. And I was like, oh shit. Why? Yeah. You left? Why did you leave? I was just like, because he was paying loads of attention to her. And you were like.

Me in the corner like smoking a cigarette. And I'm like crying. You guys are having fun. Fully your boyfriend just keeps fucking her and you leave yeah actually it was a really bad moment but i mean and then he shows up the next day with like flowers and he's like i'm sorry i don't remember and his big one was like i don't remember him so i don't remember oh i don't remember it always he's always sorry this motherfucker's always sorry and they always like was too drunk to remember and they were like oh my god i didn't even know what happened dude that's interesting because i've always talked about like threesome

guidelines yeah you have to set some guidelines or it can get wild see i have i have guidelines with threesomes so i only really have threesomes with people who the guy that's bisexual okay and it's like the guy is like happy with that do you know what i mean so it's like always like me and another bisexual like pansexual woman and then a guy because i just think for me like having threesomes with like guys who are not you know into women it can lead to just like i don't think that they want to do i really don't like people that have boyfriends and then they're like i want to have a threesome with you i'm kind of like i feel like you don't i feel like you might be doing this for him because if you're having sex with me and him why are you having sex with me if you're not into women?

That's such a good point. You know what I mean? And I actually think that's such a good guideline to have because a lot of women write in being like, my boyfriend wants to have a threesome. I don't know what to do. Yeah. If you're already saying that, it's a no. It's a no.

It's a no. I'm sorry. Like, if you're not, like, I do it because I'm into women too. So for me, it's like, Christmas day. I'm like, oh, perfect. A guy and a girl. You're like, two in one, let's go. Yeah, exactly. So it's great you're like Christmas Day I'm like oh perfect a guy and a girl you're like two in one let's go yeah exactly so it's great for me but I think if you're if your boyfriend is trying to pressure you into doing a threesome and you're not into it if you're not into like women then

I wouldn't do it with a woman if you're into men maybe do it with another guy like I agree you know have you ever had one with two guys I've never had one with two guys have you ever cheated on a partner yes okay it was it was the same guy oh it was yeah he was treating me like shit like like but it was right at the end and it was it was a week actually a week before we broke up so it was it was like very much at the end of that we were both kind of not in it we weren't really speaking at the point you're on your way out i was on my way out and i was like you know what he's done it enough to me. Right. Have you hooked up with a best friend? A best, as in his best, like an ex's best friend.

Sure. I was going to say like one of yours, but first you can answer that. Yes. I slept with his two best friends. Why? As I should. Like as I should. Did you find out?

Oh, he did. Yeah. Did you tell him? No, I didn't. So his friends actually actually he found out about one of them and then his friend told him about the other one he was like oh i said what great friends i know but guys are like guys don't if you're hot they're like whatever and that's that your ex couldn't even get mad at you because it's like those are your friends i'm your no i like i

know it sounds bad like revenge is never the bad but like but it is like shut up like it's so is like it's so like when I saw the look on his face and I was like yeah you're like yeah they were great better than you exactly yeah have a nice like you treat me like shit for a year so now calm is a bitch were they better than your boyfriend in bed no he was he was very good I will also when you have a connection with someone that you've been with for a while exactly like we were in love with each other so the sex was obviously very good that makes sense okay have you ever gone through someone's phone without their permission yeah my ex is this same ex yeah you know when it was this is such a toxic I feel like me and you are toxic

I've gone to the iPad oh yeah same the, same. The laptop too. Like, even like Facebook. So this was when like Facebook was still a thing. Oh, my God. So I was going, and I was also, okay, so I'll tell you about the one time he had his laptop open and he was watching something on it and he fell asleep. So I was like, just like trying to edge it over to me. I was like, yeah. And then there was another time where he. What did you find?

Did you find anything? I didn't find anything. But the second time I went through, I had his phone. And it was when they used to have the thumbprint on that. Did you take it? I took it. His sleeping body's on. I don't think he knows this, by the way.

So if he watches this, he's going to be like, he's psycho. Psycho. So yeah, I went through that. And then I found something. He was such a deep sleeper. OK, there you go. And he was, at the time, taking a lot of drugs. So I was like, oh, there's no way this boy is waking up. Oh, he's out. And then I found something. He was such a deep seeper. Okay, there you go. And he was at the time taking a lot of drugs. So I was like, oh, there's no way this boy is waking up.

Oh, he's out. Oh, he's out like a light. He's like a baby. He was like a child though. He was like, when I was with him, I was very much me looking after him. Like I wasn't taking heavy drugs at the time. I was literally just like hanging out with him.

And he was very heavily into drugs. And I was like, do you know what? I'm just gonna. He's never gonna wake up. He's never gonna wake up. He's never gonna know. What did you find? So I found a message from a girl. And she was like, you know what i'm just gonna he's never gonna he's never gonna wake up he's never gonna know what did you find so i found a message from a girl and she was like oh come to this like after party and i was thinking the fuck so i got so angry i confronted him about it and he knew that i'd been he was like how dare you invade my privacy and

second of all turned out to be nothing it was just a girl that was a friend of ours that i know worse when you go crazy mode and you think you're on to something you're like want to explain this and he's like that's my cousin I've got the receipts and truly I may as well just rip them up because yeah and you're like um let's go get coffee babe anyway like I don't really care about it anyway so that's fine it's always so dangerous to go through the phone but it's I think it's such a bad thing like I was 18 when I did it and he was cheating on me and I was in such an insecure place so i did it at this point now i would never do that again but i also would never date anyone that i needed to go

through that phone you know i actually am in the first healthy relationship of my life and i will i will admit my boyfriend's gonna be like huh i've definitely thought about doing it but i've stopped myself yeah because i'm like what am i doing yeah because you trust him like if i if i'm with someone the next person i'm with i don't want to think I need to check their phone because I'm onto something. Because you never check it for no reason. Exactly. I mean, sometimes you think about it, doing it for no reason. You're like, what's on that?

If you have been with toxic people in the past, it's hard sometimes to rewire your brain and be like, trust. Yeah. Trust. Exactly. Because if you look every time and you find something, it's hard. Yeah, this is a thing. We're on the same page. Have you ever had sex with a married person not to my knowledge no i didn't

know that they were married yeah and then i scrolled through the instagram the next day and saw that's the worst i i've had friends where we're out and i'm like look at their instagram later i'm like wait you hooked up with this guy and he's married and it's like these people are fucking this is the thing and he told me he was like i'm single like like he made up a whole story about how he was single it's like my last girlfriend like fully he was in like detail and then i saw the next day and i was like what's wrong with you also just to hook up like you're pathetic okay when you're going to give a blow job what are three things you do that guarantee your partner is going to get pleasure so my trick is where's

the tongue i do this thing with my tongue circles the circles you know about it go we are two peas from the same pod it's so good isn't it it really just gets it going it really does i think when you can do it on the tip at first oh yeah when you do the little like around the yep yep yep that gets and then also like you do the little, like, around the. Yep. Yep. Yep. That gets you going. And then also, like, arranging, like, up, down. Like, a bit of deep throat here and there. Like, you don't have to keep going deep.

You don't have to. Don't. Don't choke yourself out. Just, like, do it if you feel it. You know, surprise them a little bit with that. And don't do it all the time or else it's not as fun. Yeah. Give them the surprise moment.

Look, Lottie, you are giving the people what they want. Okay. We're wrapping up. we have to finish on nudes you are popping off on only fans you know how to take a fucking nude and we need your help the daddy gang needs to know okay what is your go-to pose for taking nudes my go-to pose well i love my ass okay so anything so you know when you go like when the person's taking the picture is slightly below you yes and they're going up yes that is an absolute angle it's money it's it's the money shot it is yeah and if so you have friends doing it so let's say okay for someone maybe that is like okay wait I'm sending this to a guy I don't have only fans how can I do that myself I usually I feel like you can do the thing where you like go under it's this it's like the same

vibe yeah getting that under ass shot the under the ass shot and then if you don't have underwear on but also I think don't have any shame in asking your friends to do it because we all send nudes such a good so why can't we get our friends to like help take though I mean sometimes maybe it's a little bit yeah but it's the guy because he'll be like who took this picture but I think it's kind of hot to be like my friend yeah exactly like i was thinking about you yeah like it's fun we're having mirror selfies are great like mirror nude mirror selfies like with the right light or like so good i think a nice like kind of like sun and then you're like oh a little one of these yeah a little bit of sun and it looks nice on your abs i always put oil on too i use hella oil yeah such a good tip also i love sometimes right out of the shower

where you still have water on the wet hair too yeah yeah yeah that's pretty that's pretty hot okay what is your favorite nude that you've ever taken of yourself okay there's one that i shot in a house and it's not even really a nude it's just of my ass but it just is an amazing picture and i'm wearing louboutins and i'm standing and we actually so we had this house rented out for the day it's a huge house in on the way to beverly hills and we rented it out and it was me and a few guys we were taking pictures and it's actually me like bent over the railings of this huge staircase and i'm wearing this black corset and it's just it's insane it's timeless timeless so sexual so timeless wow okay can you give anyone listening advice that's like nervous to take if they've never taken nudes or they feel

like they're bad at taking nudes like give us that lotty moss courage you know what just get sexy wear some put something on that you feel sexy and whether it's lingerie whether it's swimwear put something on that you feel super hot in and then just experiment with it just go with it chuck loads of oil on you and just get sexy put some music on i love putting music on that i feel sexy like listening to like megan the stallion or like doja cat and then just take some they just feel sexy just feel yourself with that's such good advice too because i feel like if you are getting turned on by yourself like first don't even think about them maybe like think about yourself like what turns you on like yeah sometimes like have a drink if you're like pre-gaming yeah have a drink

or even just get your hair and makeup done go and get your hair blown out yeah take it you'll feel so much sexier and if it doesn't work with one outfit try a different outfit try nude if that's better for you dude i've had times if i'm taking a nude like i get turned on before it and then you're like oh now i'm gonna masturbate because i'm like turned on it's like focus on yourself yeah and then it will translate if you feel sexy like it will translate into the picture if you feel your best and you're like i'm popping off like this is like yeah it will translate yeah i agree with you amazing lottie this has come to the end this is so fun i know i'm so sad it's coming to an end I feel like so many people are gonna fucking love you vibe with you you're such like a fun bright spirit I'm like okay let's podcast all the time together

like love you your energy do you have any fun plans for summer um I think I'm just gonna go on holiday lots I'm actually moving here obviously so I need to find a house and everything but are you gonna live alone um no I'm living with a couple of friends. A few OnlyFans girls. Oh, that's fun. Yeah, so we can all shoot together and have fun. Well, everybody go follow Lottie on social media. Thank you so much for having me too. I've had the best time.