Call Her Daddy - Megan Moroney: Cheating, Cowgirls, & Chaos

Episode Date: July 31, 2024

Join Alex in the studio for an interview with Megan Moroney. Megan opens up about her childhood in Georgia, feeling lost in high school, never fully fitting in since she was a theater kid and a cheerleader, and how her first boyfriend was actually her brother’s best friend. She talks about her college experience, educates Alex on sorority life, and breaks down the times she was getting cheated on but convinced herself to stay. Megan and Alex realize they have the same professional athlete in their past and of course, Alex asks the question we’ve all been wondering… what exactly happened with Morgan Wallen? Megan also reveals that she is OG Daddy Gang but has traded the toxic for therapy and is truly thriving now. Finally, they discuss Megan’s rise to fame, her approach to songwriting, and her new album. Enjoy!

what is up daddy gang it is your founding father alex cooper with call her daddy megan maroney welcome to call her daddy thank you i am so happy you're here i can already tell this is going to be a disaster in the best way i know i'm like high key terrified okay so you're og daddy gang og daddy Let's just talk about that for a minute. Cause I do think that changes the vibe of an interview, right? It does. Like I was a junior in college walking around the university of Georgia with my block Kim hoodie. It was, it was the black one with pink writing. I had my pink unwell hat on just being an absolute menace. A man would look at me the wrong way. And I'm like blocked. Honestly, I think that says so much about you. I already feel like we're best friends. I already

know the energy is going to be fabulous today. Congratulations. Thank you. You are everywhere in the best way. You're so fucking talented. You deserve all the success and everything that has come your way. It's so cool to see a woman in your position rise so quickly and it just all happened. Your new album is called Am I Okay? So obviously I have to say like, are you okay? How are we doing today, Megan? What is going on? We are more than okay. We are. This has been like the best week ever. So I'm so okay. But valid question. If you've listened to the album, it's like, dude, is she okay? I like that you really write from like the personal perspective and you give a lot of details about your life and your love life specifically because obviously the tea is hot and i love the tea so i'm like yes megan give it you call yourself an emo cowgirl what does that mean can you explain it to us

so emotional cowgirl not to be confused with goth cowgirl i get a lot of questions about those two because you're not giving god i'm not givingh we're giving pink sparkles like over the top not goth but emotional I am probably the most emotional sensitive person ever when is the last time you cried over a guy um a few months ago there was a few minutes ago oh no no no girlfriend we are good we are good a few months ago yeah I was just um I was having a breakdown over a loser but I mean isn't it so sad when you waste your tears on a loser and then oh my god yeah and then like you think of your mental state and you're like girlfriend but like you have to have those moments like you have to go through it and then for sure you come out on the other side and you're you're better and then

the best is when you look back and you're like yes was it embarrassing I cried like not as bad as it like he's such a fucking loser like I don't care as much anymore and your perspective right but in the moment it hurts it does hurt in the moment but we got some good songs out of it okay so let's talk about you obviously are a country singer you where were you born and raised like take me back to your hometown and what growing up was like so I was born in Savannah Georgia I grew up in Douglasville Georgia which is west of Atlanta and um I feel like for 22 23 years of my life I grew up very normal like this all just changed um so yeah I mean I grew up playing guitar with my dad and my brother they taught me how to play guitar I was a cheerleader in high school I also did musical theater, though.

So, like, you can imagine. The vibes were a little weird. I'll be honest. Those don't go together. So, yeah, I hurt my knee cheerleading, though, my junior year. I was in a wheelchair for two months. I have, like, a gnarly scar on my knee that I will show you later. Okay.

She's really taking your pants off already. I'm like, babe, we're five minutes in. Honestly, let it rip. But I was in a wheelchair. So while I had nothing to do, I really learned how to play guitar. My dad taught me and it was only for fun though. Like, you know, after school and on the weekends, my dad and I, I loved country music growing up. I've always loved country music. So me and my dad would just sing together with, if my brother was in town, we'd do three part harmonies it was just fun and I never thought that I would have a career out of it though it was always just for fun because

I where I'm from you kind of do what your parents do when you grow up you know and my mom was an accountant so I I understood accounting so I was like maybe I'm supposed to be doing taxes um I'll get to college and figure it out so that that was my mindset. So yeah, I feel like I had a very normal upbringing. Music was only just like a side thing. But I feel like what we see, sadly, but also positive for those that have this kind of like rise, like you was like, if you get to have a normal childhood, you have the best chance of keeping your shit together and not losing your mind and like going through it because people at a young age, it's like important to have your formative years if you can have normalcy and

like stability and not people like taking photos of you as much as we all think at a young age that would be so cool that's a lot to put a young kid through and then it's almost like in their 20s and 30s they want to like go back and relive like a childhood and like recreate what they wish they had you had a normal life so you're now like coming into this and like it seems like you're just like a normal girl in the best way that like went to college and had pretty normal life experiences you just mentioned your brother I'm curious growing up like were your brothers super protective with boys like what was the vibe in the house so my oldest brother that plays guitar he is about 15 years older than me I think okay and um so I didn't grow up with him but my other brother is two years

older than me um same my brother's two years older than me he is like this sweet angel like I could not ask for a better brother so he was never like the brother that was like cussing my boyfriends out um but he's definitely protective I dated his best friend that was my first boyfriend um I love how I'm like was he like protective and like did he scare boys away meanwhile you're like no I ruined his life I dated his best friend um yeah they're not friends anymore Megan yeah that I wouldn't go back and do that again wait can you tell me the story what happened so I it was actually like really weird looking back I was in eighth grade and he was a what is that a sophomore going to be a junior so I was

about to be a sophomore a freshman though so um he was hot and on the baseball team and I started like I don't even know how we started talking I think we started texting or something he became my first like serious boyfriend we dated for two and a half years he shattered my heart because when it was time for him to go to college, he like made up some lie and like broke up with me and I was distraught. Like I had my mom had to sleep with me every night for like a month. You know, what's crazy is like when you get older, I still probably would want my mom to sleep with me when I'm crying.

But since we don't live together, like I'm like, if the proximity was there, would I still call my mom when I was heartbroken? Yes. If she would be my bed, I would even like that more and like sob all night we also I'm dead that that was then your brother's best friend like yeah and he was like chill in the house about it well my brother is one of those things where he was like well he's making her happy so I'm not gonna say anything I know he's like the sweetest sweetest angel um but yeah that didn't end that didn't end. That didn't end well.

Okay, because I know then the story, doesn't it go like then you wanted to go to the same college as him? Yes. So me and my brother were like very close growing up. Like I wanted to be like I wore my brother's clothes growing up. Yes. He played baseball. So I played baseball. I wasn't on the softball team.

I wanted to be like my brother. So when he went to the University of Georgia and my brother's a smart one. Not that I'm not smart. My brother is like he'd never had to study for tests Georgia and my brother's a smart one, um, not that I'm not smart, but my brother is like, he'd never had to study for tests. He graduated with like a 4.0. I'm just like, like Miranda Lambert has a song that says my brother got the brains of the family. So I thought I'd learn to sing.

And I'm like, I resonated with that lyric so hard as a young child, but I followed him to UGA. Yeah. So when I was a freshman, he was a senior, like he did my laundry for me. It was a young child. You're doing fine. But I followed him to UGA. Yeah. So when I was a freshman, he was a senior. Like he did my laundry for me. It was a perfect scenario. I live in the dorms, which were crusty as hell. He had a house. So we would have like pizza nights once a week. It was like very wholesome. Okay. Wait, back to high school before we get to college. What were you like in high school? Um, I, I feel like I was a very much a relationship girl. Um, I had that

boyfriend for two years. And then my second half of high school, I also had a boyfriend. So I feel like I was a cheerleader too, but I was also in musical theater. So I feel like I was friends with everyone, but I didn't feel like I really belonged in high school. I was going to say, like, if I walked into your cafeteria, what clique am I seeing you with? Maybe with the cheerleaders but like on that very end so stop because then like your theater girls are over there and you're like well it was like the theater girls were like should we trust her she's a cheerleader and then the

cheerleaders were like I just I did not know who I was in high school I would not say I peaked in high school okay hold on did I read though that then you thought about going and following your high school boyfriend to college? Megan? I am a simp. Dude, if he said go to this college for me, I would have been like, babe, I got you. I will absolutely rearrange my life for you.

Not anymore, not anymore. No, we're reformed. Not anymore, we're recovered. Right, but okay, when you were simping, were you guys with the same age? This is not your brother's best friend. life for you not anymore not anymore no we're reformed not anymore we're we're recovered right but okay when you were simping were you guys with the same age this is not your brother's best friend this is a new boyfriend this is a new boyfriend the day I got into UGA I was like breaking up with you love you so much not really um gotta go that's so crazy like I remember I had a high school boyfriend and when I got to Boston I was convinced I was gonna stay with him I'm like we're gonna make it work long distance

the minute I got on campus and saw like the junior boys I was literally like peace like you get to UGA and there's guys that are like six five there and you're like oh my god you literally don't even remember your ex-boyfriend's name it was so fun like it was so much fun okay you were in a sorority I was and like I am from the northeast I went to school in Boston like I don't and I was an athlete so I don't understand sorority life whatsoever you need to like walk me through being in Georgia and being in a sorority I feel like that is like the creme de la creme of like crazy sorority life tell me everything like what was the best what was the worst parts of it it was insane and i don't regret it i think that being in kd actually i was a kappa delta okay and i wasn't necessarily involved in everything like i wasn't

like planning it like i would go to what i had to go to to not get fined wait it is kappa not to get fined oh wait you get fine you if you don't go to chapter you get like fined and stuff. Okay, wait, hold on. Maybe Daddy Gang like knows what the fuck is going on, but I need you to slow down, first of all. What is, if you didn't go to chapter, did you say? If you didn't go to chapter, you would get fined. Or like if you couldn't. Chapter is like once a week.

Something that could have been an email. I always went in there and I'm like, this could have been an email. But thank God I'm not studying for my test. This is awesome. What do you do at chapter you sit there i'm like i honestly have trauma blocked it out like i don't remember because i don't want to remember no um it wasn't as culty as people make it sound but there were some like things where we'd all have to sing together it was like only like once a month where you would like do the like the chance together no No, literally like, I'm not even kidding. We do a chant. Come on.

I don't remember it. Oh, I swear. That's rush week. And anything you see on TikTok that looks that insane is literally like the, it is, it was an experience. And I will say I wouldn't go back and change it.

But like, once you're out of it, you're like, that is kind of crazy. Crazy. We paid to be in in it we paid a lot of money to be in it and if you didn't go to things you get fined but I did meet my best friends oh and um I mean like my sorority had 300 girls in it though so you're not gonna like everybody oh my obviously like I think that's kind of what they portray is like oh my god we're the best of friends if you're a Kappa Delta then it's family and well I don't disagree with that but it's just like, oh, my God, we're the best of friends. If you're a Kappa Delta, then it's family.

And while I don't disagree with that, but it's just like it's hard to get 300 girls to get along. Yeah. But I met my very best friends through that. Like my best friend, Natalie, we met the first day of Rush and like we are inseparable. She lives in Nashville. That's amazing. And there's like so many others that I met through Katie. But it was definitely like being in a sorority in Georgia is exactly what you would think it is.

What was your type in college? Like what guys you're going for? Douchebag. Oh, fuck. No, I'm just that's not on purpose. But there's a through line. You're like a minute kept going out of college. So in college, loved an athlete. Oh, so back in college loved an athlete oh my god um college

or professional didn't care oh my god Megan hold on rewind hold on okay so you weren't going for the frat boys no and so what sports on campus did we infiltrate football see I didn't have a football team what the fuck I had so I had soccer and oh hockey was like the main thing in Boston okay the football boys it was brief though and then I baseball too different college though I dated a baseball boy that played at a different college how was that um it was an experience did he cheat on you? Yes. It's like a right at past. Can I be honest with you, though? He's my favorite ex. Really?

Because he came around and apologized for his actions and was like, you know what? I did treat you like shit. I was immature. And I can respect that. I can respect that, too. It's like when they really, like, push you so down in the dumps to at least apologize because some of them act like you're crazy, even if you, the nudes on the phone like that somehow got there okay like speaking of that oh so I had found a nude on a phone and he said it was from a long time ago whatever actually

I didn't find it he was like going through his snapchat and then it just like comes up you know what I mean how and you're like what was that why did, and this is in college? This was in college. Okay. So I was like, what was that? And whatever lie he told, I believed him. Of course. Of course. You're like, oh my God, babe, don't worry. There was more evidence that I was in a shower and I saw this like long piece of brown hair on the wall of the shower.

And I convinced myself. That you were going brown. No, that his hair, I convinced myself that that strand of hair came off his head. Megan, I thought you were going to say you were going combing through your own hair, being like, there must be one piece of brown coming through. Bitch. Yeah, it was a low point for me. And the best part is, and like, I will be out of all my exes. Like, I swear he's one of my favorites because he's just him and I it was an immature relationship I think you look back at

college you know like we were stupid we were having fun and it was never that serious and so that's how I view him well is he the one that you found the news on his phone yeah got it but that's how you found out he was cheating yeah it was or that's how I like had an inkling and then but can I just pause you there I think that's a really really good moment for us women to look at like when we get mad at our friends for not leaving their like piece of shit boyfriends that we all know they're cheating like think about what you just said this man has short brown hair and you find a 22 inch long brown extension curled up in the shower and you're like it must be Brad's like it must be like it's gotta be his like the delusion he would never do that to me he loves me he said he loves me this has to

be his hair it's the delusion run so deep we can't even be mad it's like you are blinded until you get out you live in you okay what were you gonna say so i'm not a phone looker through her okay um but I purchased his apple watch okay so I looked through that no Megan what's worse that I bought it so it was my watch to go through the genius sitting across from me I have never been more impressed and you know what you know what I did I I sent him a picture I was supposed to meet him somewhere I was still getting ready he had to go early I'm like crying out of happiness I'm literally I sent him a picture of the apple watch and the pic like the text that proved that my suspicions were correct and then he starts calling me a million times i have packed up all of my belongings put them in

my 2010 mustang at the time oh girl and i went to the pool what and i waited for him to get wait wait wait no no no i i need you to rewind because my brain just blacked out i'm like and then she drove away hold on you what I sent him the proof so he had to go somewhere I was supposed to meet him I sent him he left his apple watch okay so I was like this is God's plan right so we're gonna go through I sent him the pictures no caption no nothing I just sent it to him what are the pictures um it's just texts where if they're like late like they went out and like she's like oh your door is locked like that of stuff. So I send him that no reaction. He's calling me a million times.

I don't answer. I wait until he's done at his event and has to come home and deal with me. And where does he find me? All of my shit packed in my car and I'm laying by the pool lounging. Are you like, are you in a bikini? Can I preface this? I was in college listening to call her daddy at the time.

I think this is your doing you're listening to my voice be like get a match burn his home down smile and take a selfie leaving right now it's not good enough no you need to like relish in it just like hi babe the crazy eyes like did you get my text I've been waiting for you to come home and honestly can I be really honest? Yes. I simped and I stayed that night. Megan. Okay.

This is what I'm talking about though. Like being able to live life and go through college and be delusional and dumb has made me the person I am. To realize that like it's okay to be that dumb because one day you will grow up and be 26 years old and laugh at that I am so appreciative of your honesty because you're just like I appreciate it you're not too cool to be like bitch I stayed like absolutely I made him dinner that night I am like so easily manipulated What was his lie? What was? See I don't even remember But it must have been good

I think honestly you know what it was Which now I have like a song That correlates which this song wasn't even written about The situation but it correlates was like I knew if I left I would have to Go home and I wasn't supposed to be home So my mom would ask me why I was there and then I have to get The mom involved

So I have a song called Mom I I Lied on my new record, which is not about this situation because he's sweet angel. We love him. This is about a different guy, but. He's a sweet angel. We love him. Okay, no, now.

At the time. Okay, we were mad at him for a while. You love all of your exes? You love the Snapchat baby boy with the nudies. You love the man. Does it say man? No, no, no. Okay, I take it back.

We don't love him. Oh. But compared to the rest oh it just keeps getting worse i love how megan's like and i just like and the woman i am today because it got better you're like hold my shit actually alex the mustang has nothing on then what i'm about to share with you okay did you unpack the mustang alone did you do it like i think i left the next day and honestly shortly after that our relationship was never the same and so it did take like two months and then after that big event it was never the same. I will say when

you are close with your mother there's nothing worse like I did the same where I found out a guy was cheating on me and I was just like I have I would rather stay than tell my mom right now because I'm not ready for her to know and the wrath of like her to protect me. I need to live in the delusion just a little bit longer. Like I haven't decided if I'm really done yet. So when I tell my mom, it's over. Back to my first boyfriend. When I said I was going to text him, my mom was like, I will turn your phone off.

And my mom like monitored my text messages. You're still on the family plan. She's like, I will cut the cord if you even try. Oh, wow. I really love that about your mom, though, because she's trying to keep you honest with yourself of like you deserve better. But you're like, I don't want better right now, mom. This feels perfect.

I know. Yeah. Yeah. OK, so that was college. And what are we? This is like sophomore, junior. That was sophomore-ish, I believe. OK.

OK. Did you ever like the same guy as any of your sorority sisters or no you were like you were out in the field and they were with I actually dated guys usually like I didn't actually date any guy at Georgia ever like they were always elsewhere I'm not gonna lie that is probably the best way to do it so you can kind of keep your own shit over there and like not have to deal with them on campus and it's a better way to go about it I did the same exact thing actually is it a better way to go about it it's absolutely not it's actually makes them be 10 times shadier but it seems fun okay what professional sports were we um dabbling with in college sweetie can I play the bib on that I thought you were about to look at me I don't know why okay can I

be honest you just gave me a look that I thought you're about to be at me. I don't know why. Okay, can I be honest? You just gave me a look that I thought you were about to be like, I have a funny story. We have talked to the same man before. I'm like, I wouldn't put honesty. I actually have a story for that at a later date. We do know a same hockey man. Wait. Wait, say it to me and we're going to cut it. You swear.

I'll promise on my life. I don't want it out there either. I'm married. Okay, all of that is cut. I'll promise on my life. I don't want it out there either. I'm married. Okay. All of that is cut. Daddy, I'm sorry. I just blue balled you, but we do know a similar athlete and it is not Slim Shady. He doesn't play that sport.

No. Yeah. I think he's like a neurotic sociopath. I wouldn't disagree. Put it past. Okay. Okay. I need to hear the story afterwards because girl um okay we need to talk

about college because I think like we were just talking about you are having a normal life and all of a sudden in college your life changes and like from what I was doing my research on and I want you to tell the whole story like this wasn't a planned thing right this kind of just happened that all of a sudden your career took off tell us us the full story if you can, if you don't mind. Yes. I'll try to make this brief because it's long. But so like I said, I grew up playing music with my family. So I would post videos on Instagram sometimes of like our covers. And if the harmony sounded good, I'd post that. And so when I got to college and I was in the sorority, I was known as like the country singer just because I didn't even write songs. I was just singing country songs with my family. So everyone's like, that's her.

And so for one of our philanthropy events, we hired John Langston, which he's a country artist and we use all of our budget on him. So we didn't have money for an opener, but they were like, Megan is the country singer. She can surely get up there and entertain people for 20 minutes before John Langston comes on. So me, my dad, my brother played that gig. We played three cover songs. I think it was like two Miranda Lambert songs in one Casey Musgraves song. And at that show, Trace Chase Rice is there. So of course, he was at the sorority, right? Of course, of course. Of course. Shout out Chase. He saw me perform there and was like, I have a show at the Georgia Theater next month that isn't

sold out. If you bring all of these hot girls to the Georgia Theater, you can open for me first of three. The only condition is that you write your own song because I don't want you to perform covers. That's weird. And so I wrote one song to be able to do that and the rest were covers. So I had 30 minutes. And since like ever since I played that show, it completely changed everything. And I was like, this is what I want to do with my life. I don't know how I'm going to make this happen, but we're going to do it. Dude, that is so crazy that it was like a hobby of yours. You're like, I do this fun thing with my family and then all of that.

Was that crazy for your family to be like you're taking off when it was kind of like your guys like fun hobby thing together? Yeah, like it was very surreal for my family to like see me perform at the Georgia Theater because that's like an iconic venue in Athens. And for it to happen like so quickly as my freshman year, but even throughout college, you know, like I also like never skipped class. I was very into school. So I was very focused on schoolwork. So I really didn't write that much in college. I really didn't start writing, writing all the time until COVID. So even in college, like I was known, I was getting gigs and I was playing at the local

restaurant for tips and literally like for 10 people. But it wasn't like, oh, she's doing it. Because it was also like, well, there's 10 people here and they're all your friends. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. We, I'm so fascinated though though because if you weren't always writing songs like what was that like first songwriting process like for you when you had to like sit down and start to figure out like what your sound was and your voice it's really interesting because I I have no idea I like just sat down with the guitar and I was like okay you have to write a song the first song I wrote

was called stay a memory and it was like of course like a fuck you song is like stay a memory and don't come back um and that's kind of the vibe of my music now so I feel like I've always had that kind of like empowering confident like yeah vibe to my songwriting and then um my junior year I feel like I wrote I got my heart broken pretty bad and I started writing songs for like therapeutic purposes and it was like ever since then it's just been easy like I started I learned how to write by myself and I always tell young songwriters like if there's anything you need to do it's learn to write by yourself because you know you have a point of view you know what you want to say and if you can sit down and finish a song then like you've got it well that's what I was gonna say is like what I love so much

about your music is you can yes you can tell that you are personally writing it and I appreciate when it's obviously very relatable because you're going through like a lot of shit that like women go through aka heartbreak and when I'm listening to your songs I have to ask like what would you consider your biggest heartbreak my biggest heart ask like what would you consider your biggest heartbreak my biggest heartbreak like what was the worst one my biggest heartbreak like I think there's like a few that are tied it's guys I didn't date that sounds so dramatic but like I said I'm I'm very sensitive and I guess you could say dramatic so what I've created in my head is always so much better and hard to let go of than what actually happened

like with the guys that I've truly dated like we see it through till we like you know what I mean like by the time it's like we're done okay we're handshaking like peace peace um but it's it's the guys I feel like that have broken my heart the most are the ones that like I never even like officially dated it's like the situationships where you are like half of the relationship is you like laying in bed and like fantasizing about like what you'll be and half of things you think about and fantasize they never even happen or like they've showed you who they could be and so in your brain you create an entire scenario of what has not and will not happen it's actually so painful and when you say it like that though it does make more sense you're right

like when you're in long-term relationships you go through everything together almost right and by the end like I actually kind of understand when you're like the college guys that you that you were like I love him like he's great yeah because you lived a whole like experience with him and it was like it was time to move on the situationships where you're like are we something are we not I feel like I feel like your wife one day and then I feel like trash the next day it's a motherfucking mind fuck are you someone that like can immediately get over someone though or are you like on someone for a while I feel like I usually sit in my sadness for a while um I especially now like I don't have time to date guys like I so like I feel like moving out in college was easier because you can just oh go

out and meet some hot guy or like I used to be on Raya so it's like you're just entertaining yourself with other dudes or whatever like and then it's like I don't have time for any of that now, though. So I feel like. OK, but do you ever feel like you put yourself in a situation because, you know, it's going to make a great song? Alex, there are times where my friends have scolded me and I've been like, he I'm like'm like no the content we are going to get from this is going to be spectacular bear with me it's okay to be fair I think when I look back at a lot of my show I'm like I maybe stayed in things longer because I was like god this is gonna be a good episode and at least we're getting to like put it somewhere we're like a lot of times you hear girls be like doing it for the plot but our plot turns into a song or an episode

that like is entertaining and fun and can help people so you know what we can be the vessel of heartbreak and we can just keep going through it then people are going to feel better about their lives so I don't judge you I hope you know I've done it too so I was asking because I was like oh I wonder if she's like me where we just like stay in things like there will be times where like there was a situation not that long ago where I did something and I texted my manager and I said we're gonna get a good song out of this also make me a therapy appointment no tomorrow no no no yeah can you no no give me a hint give me a hint you were going through it um yeah it was just like a it was a fresh out the slammer by taylor's first situation i wonder if i know who you're talking about no no no maybe i going to get there. Don't worry.

I'm going to ask you a lot of questions. You're not done. Do you believe in this, like the classic saying, in order to get over someone you need to get under someone now um i think you should go to therapy i think you're like actually therapy you're like what i know in my brain is therapy the reality of what i do um well i don't think that always helps because i think like I've tried that before and then it's like you end up just missing them more yes you know what I mean like it can go it maybe works out but I feel like for the most part it doesn't and for me like when I

go to therapy and then I tell my therapist how I'm getting treated that usually like helps me get over it right they're like let me that's so rough let me bring you back down to earth and like let you realize how you're supposed to be treated i'm like oh shit that's the worst when they're like so let me say back to you what you just said to me and i'm like no and she's like so you just said he did this this this is humbling okay so now i agree though like it's very rare if you're moving on from someone that you can find someone that will actually make you forget about the person that you're hung up on that's fucking rare like i maybe my life have had it once and then it like also fades anyways right and then you're with

the person you're still thinking about the other person so it's like this is not for anyone involved no okay let's talk about Megan now though because we did you know I did catch when you said you know oh it got worse just for a second it got worse it got worse sir it got real worse sir um you get out of college and And what happened after college? Did you get cheated on by another? I did. Absolutely. Of course I did, Alex.

So there was this guy. I moved to Nashville right after college. Literally during COVID. So that was like a horrible time to move anywhere. But I was just dying to get after it. So I can't remember if it was, I guess I had a boyfriend during COVID that that doesn't count. Um, it was like a long distance thing that was just like really stupid, um, to try to date someone long distance during COVID. I don't know. No, it

doesn't work. It doesn't work. But after that, um, I dated a guy in Nashville and well, actually we weren't officially dating. Um, those are the worst and like I I know I'm saying this story and everyone's gonna think it's about someone but I'm just gonna say that it's not Morgan Wallen it's not him this is not this story this is someone that's good for the next story okay perfect um but this right now is not about him I dated some guy he had a whole girlfriend the whole time I was with him every single day he had a girlfriend Megan he wasn't just cheating the trust issues that are coming out of this episode dude and like I could not believe it he was he was like low-key insane though like when I first met him he called my friends into the bathroom I was crying about the feelings he had for me like there was something

not right up here no um and that's who sleep on my side is about so I have a song called I sleep on my side and you sleep with everyone that's about him your voice in person is insane it's like what what um but yeah so I and we weren't officially dating because I wouldn't date him because I had the feeling that I you know got he had a girlfriend the entire time I get a hey girl dm nope yeah no hey girl and she's like I think you're talking to my boyfriend and I was like your boyfriend um and then I can like once I cut things off with him I immediately cut things off because I was like that is insane I'm with you every single day and you have a girlfriend like a whole girlfriend not even just and they've been dating for like years bye I can't I men so did

you confront him like did oh of course yeah I was like literally never speak to me again I know we're not break I know we're not together but we're breaking up right um so this man this man sends me flowers no the girl is trying to get information out of me. Like, I think you're being crazy. Like, he's not actually with you. And I'm like, girl, I'm telling you girl to girl. He sent me flowers. She was like, no, he didn't. He would not do that.

He just said he didn't send you flowers. And I was like. And this guy, like I took, he met my family. Not on purpose, but just because there was a wedding during New Year's and I needed a date. Classic. It wasn't on purpose, but he accidentally met my whole family. So it wasn't just casual. And he had a whole girlfriend.

But the problem is, and I think this is a learning lesson for all of us, is the girl that's like, no, I think you're being crazy, blah, blah, blah. She's in her hair in the shower phase where she believes. She's like, he must be telling me the truth. She's a liar like she clearly probably figured out one day I felt bad and I literally was like genuinely run because if he can be that scary to you clearly he's manipulating you really badly yeah he's trying to lie to me too but I've already been manipulated by shower man my first boyfriend

the junior year guy I'm like girl the veteran I'm like girl I'm watching out for you you need to run I think since I like see her on my for you page sometime I think since then she has moved on I thought you're gonna say they're married I'm like it's a classic it's a classic damn um okay but yeah that was a situation and that was another thing where like looking back I was like he cried to my friends about liking me so much I think screws were loose some sort of manipulation thing I'm not sure what's going on there but um that's when you know like if it's too early on and he's like sobbing you're like first of all why are you crying like it's not that deep we haven't even said we loved each other and we're also not even dating yet so let's reel in the emotions what what is this act and my friends were confused because they were like that's really sweet but we're what's going on right and then clearly yeah

it's all a facade to like get you more attached and like get you more into it and then meanwhile he has a full-ass fucking family at home and you're like damn that was insane okay so Megan hey did you date Morgan Wallen never exclusively and goodbye okay oh my god thank you so much it's been so much fun and goodbye everyone let's go talk off camera okay interesting not exclusively so you I think it's obvious and that's why like I do appreciate you being honest because like I feel like everyone kind of knows and I have so tried to avoid that in every single interview I've ever done but you're here um but we're here now and it's time has passed

and all is well so okay um is your song Tennessee Orange about him I will not sing my songs about ever because just did you okay oh that's true yeah we'll never name see okay fair fair fair fair okay you won't confirm do you think he has any songs about you I have no idea lies lies lies okay why, lies. Okay. Why did the relationship end? Okay. So it was never a relationship. Okay. Here's what I'll tell you though, because I haven't told anyone this ever.

Here we go. So him and I met in 2020. Okay. John Langston actually introduced us. So I was a senior in college. COVID hadn't happened yet. His Dangerous album wasn't even out yet. So we were friends for a long time.

So it's what, 2024? That was 2020. Yep. So we're friends for a long time. Okay. We were not just friends. And now we're friends. I love that answer.

Okay. So you guys had like a little thing. A little thing. But you weren't officially dating. Yeah. No, never officially dating never officially dating but as we talked about Megan those can be the worst yeah I will say if anyone's like overly sensitive and will get their heart broken and like yeah it's it's me how did you keep something like that that private um it's not that hard he's I feel like he's a very private person you think yeah so you kind of just like maneuvered around well yeah it was not like like I said we weren't exclusively dating ever okay and I think both of our schedules like we have insane like when we try to hang out

it's like okay we have this one day of the whole month where we're both maybe in town right and then someone's got something going on it was like that sort of thing um but him and i are friends i think that's great obviously you know i had to ask i like i don't want to make you uncomfortable i know come on megan i had to i know and honestly i just because he's such a private person i it just feels like awkward talking about it. I think that you gave me exactly what we need to know. We can move on. Okay.

Are you single or are you in a relationship right now? I'm so single. How is single life? I love it. I sleep so good. Oh. Like, nobody's son is stressing me out. Like, I'm in REM sleep every night.

You know what I mean? Love. And I feel like all of my free time is being spent with my girlfriends. Okay. And I can just really, like, enjoy being in the moment. I feel like, like I said, I'm very sensitive. So when I do date someone, like, if we're having problems or whatever it may be, like, it really does affect me.

Like, I'm the someone where, like, you can, my mood immediately is affected. So that's why, like, a song, like like I have a song called Hell of a Show. And it was like really hard because I would literally cry on cry before I went on stage. I would perform and then I would go cry myself to sleep. And it's like that was very difficult for me. So it's I'm way happier single for now, at least I feel like everything is so new still so I'm enjoying not having to worry about that part of things I feel like that was something that I appreciated when Taylor Swift released a song I can do it with a broken heart that like all of the fans for the first time were like oh I didn't even think about that like these musicians can go on stage and like give so much

of themselves and be just like so just like happy and performative and like because, you know, people are there to see you and you don't want to like bring your emotions into it. But it was so helpful to be like, you know, you guys are also human beings. Like when you are on stage and you've been crying like up until you literally get shoved out there. Are those explain those type of shows to me? Well, it's one of those things where in my song hell of a show I say keep it together I can keep it together for the room full of people here who love me better um and it's like for those 90 minutes or however long I'm on stage I am like genuinely happy and to see like little girls their light eyes light up and they have I love the girl in the mirror shirts on. It's like it almost makes me crying over a guy.

It's like I can't believe that I'm letting him take away from this moment. So I feel like it's tough because like those moments right before you go on stage, you're literally like, holy shit, I was just crying. Yeah. And like I want to die right now. But there's like people that are chanting my name and I gotta put it on um but like while it's happening it's like I'm just grateful anytime I can be on stage because I feel the love for my fans and it's almost like a reminder of like someone one day is gonna appreciate me and isn't gonna treat me like shit um and we'll make these moments like they will be here for these moments and not ruin them I love that and I think you're so right it's like being in front of all of your fans must be just like a euphoric feeling and it kind of puts things in perspective of like you are so talented you're so incredible you're so smart

like you're funny like even sitting with you now I'm like oh I feel like we're friends like you're a great time like the right person will come and those type of moments as hard as they are right before. It's like it puts in perspective. Right. You're going to be fine. Right. Have you figured out like if I was to put all of your exes in a lineup, like do you have a type personality wise looks wise? Like what are we working with?

Personality wise. I love when someone can match my humor. Yep. I realized with my last boyfriend that humor is very important to me you're like I was falling asleep at dinner Alex let's put it that way um and yeah I just I love humor that'll get me that'll get me real quick like what happened with some of my exes is that like I would be so mad at them and they would know that humor is my weakness. So all they had to do is make me laugh. And then I'm like, we're so bad.

They literally make you giggle as you're like crying. They're like crying, but we're like so bad. So I think humor is number one. I also realized like I want a guy. I realized that ego, like I'm older now, too. And my last relationship, like real relationship, I would say was like one of my first real adult relationships. And I don't I can't deal with any sort of ego. It's tough.

I felt like I wasn't being like supported. So that was like a thing like he didn't want to listen to my music. I'm sorry. I didn't know about his job wait hold on so through therapy I'm realizing that that's an ego thing and I'm like oh we can't do that hold on first of all even you just like you on tiktok and your acoustics like I was literally talking to all the girls and every girl was like okay like I just like wish she would sing for like two seconds so I can hear her voice. She's, you just did it earlier.

And I'm like, you have an insane voice. The perks of dating a fucking musician is being like, babe, sing for me. And you get to be like serenaded and he didn't want to hear your fucking perfect voice. Um, well there was like a time where, yeah, I mean, I don't want to get too into it, but what sucks about therapy is that like when you get into therapy you realize that the problems are deeper than you yeah and it's like then you just feel bad so that's kind of yeah back to my type though I think I need funny I easily get blinded by abs and height I've done a lot of dumb shit for like six five

I love that I've seen on TikTok it's like you rank what's most important you like some girls are super into like the arms or the back or the eyes the teeth you're like abs oh my god I'm gonna fold I'm gonna fall you're literally in a fight he cheated he just like takes off his shirt you're like we're back um so yeah height too but like I I really I think as far as like I I'm not looking for a relationship, but if I was to be looking for someone, I think they would have to be funny, supportive. And I think those are like the main two. Well, I think that something that I can immediately tell because you're so successful and you're

this like young, gorgeous woman is like, I can imagine you're so successful and you're this like young gorgeous woman is like I can imagine you're gonna need to find a man that's so secure within himself because to have someone across from you and I've had it where like you're a successful woman that already is intimidating to people even if they're not dating you like people are going to like talk shit about you they're gonna find a reason not to like you because like people get jealous or they're intimidated whatever the angle is and so for a man to not be able to be like that's my fucking girl and like yeah proud of you and instead like trying to make you feel insecure and like push you down and like make you not feel like you're like thriving that can get so fucking

toxic and can really impact you well that's how I felt anytime I would be like proud of myself it was like he felt like he needed to humble me and like yeah and dude and like even so I got nominated for some ACM awards and you did I I texted him this was when we were like broken up but still trying to make things work because like I said I will be a dead horse till it's there till the actually dead um and he was like oh my god that's so great congrats and then it's like oh my god i have a crazy day at work like just immediately immediately yeah not like oh my god babe let me take you out for dinner we're gonna toast this is so fun like let's celebrate tonight like and i realize that that is going to be important to me but i also then with fucking therapy it's like i do understand that it would be hard to date me.

My personal life revolves around my work life, which is not for everyone. And I totally understand that. Like every anytime I get to hang out with you one on one because we're chilling is because my career is not in the way, which is almost never. So I feel like that's why dating right now is just like really hard because I don't want to let up on my career. I feel like I'm all in it right now and I'm so much enjoying it. And I told my therapist, I was like, am I being crazy? And she was like, you're 26. Why would you not be all in in your career?

Dude, I was also going to say like I remember feeling like I was never going to find a guy that could like handle what I was doing. And I was the same way. I'm like, I'm literally not stopping. Like I have so much I want to fucking do. I'm so motivated and I want to push myself. And then I promise you it's once you just like get in that mindset, the right person will come along that like you're so good in what you're doing and you're so not willing to waver and like have a couple months where you get swept off your feet and you're not focused that person will come

in because no one else will be able to get in at one point because you're so locked in yourself and that's when you're going to find someone that you're like oh fuck like there he is cheering me on and then he will probably have his own shit i think it's important for people and it doesn't mean career like whatever fulfills someone you have to have your own shit to feel confident in yourself to actually look at someone like you and be like I am only happy for you there's no jealousy there's no like ego issue where I'm feeling like I have to like trump you and that is when you're like god bless hold on therapy when did you get in therapy I think about a year ago yeah Yeah. And I actually got into therapy because my producer, my producer is Christian Bush. He's half of Sugarland, you know? Um, so, and he was someone

that was like, you need to get a therapist. He kept saying that to me. I think I would come in with like crazy ass stories and he'd be like, you need therapists. Great song, but let's all go. We're so happy. We love this song. You need therapy. Um, and he kept saying it and I kept not doing it and so he contacted my manager it was they booked the appointment for me so I basically forced me to go and I think that's the only way I was going to go though um and I really got into it as like maintenance because like I said I lived like 22 23 very normal years of my life. And to suddenly be, you know, shot up into the spotlight. That's why I needed therapy because I'm like I didn't know how to handle. It's just like having everyone talk about you is like the most terrifying or was the most terrifying thing ever.

And yeah, I mean, like all of the Tennessee Orange interviews were like my first interviews as an artist. So I was like scarred. That's I haven't done like a proper podcast since like my career took off because of that. Because I was so terrified of interviews because I was like, that's all they wanted to talk about. And I get it, of course. Of course. But I was like terrified. I think though, and I appreciate you bringing that up because when someone, when this happens, anyone, like whatever it is, when you get any type of like publicity or notoriety, I

have a lot of empathy for people because it's like, there is no playbook that someone hands you of like, this is how to deal with it. And clearly there's no playbook because we've seen so many stars or comedians or musicians or personalities online, like either flop or succeed. But everyone has a bumpy road at some point because it's like navigating millions of people watching you. And like now everyone wants to know like me asking like who you're dating and what you're doing.

Like that's odd, but that's also what comes with it. And so like, I think you're doing an incredible job. Like, I think you seem like you're super grounded, but I agree. I think like getting into therapy is important for me. Even I remember being like, all these people are talking about me and like, whether it was people saying something that wasn't true about me or saying something that was true, but like, I wanted to defend myself or I didn't, I didn't know, like it's endless and you kind of don't know how to handle it and you can do it any way you want it's just a dance because most of the time it

isn't going to fully portray you as a whole human being it's like quick little things people see on the internet and I can imagine you're like I have more to give than Tennessee Orange like I have so but that's all that people cared about in the moment it probably felt like to you but it's like you're growing and you're changing and you're learning and like you've gotten fucking incredible music. Thanks. Yeah. Like since then it's been better, but it was like therapy was, I just think necessary too

because I want to stay grounded. I want to like have check-ins and be like, we need to remain sane and mentally healthy. That's also though, I think how people last in this industry. Like I have so many people that come into this house and I have had a lot of people that I'm like, Oh, I'm shocked. You're quite rude. And like, I didn't expect that. Or I'm like, holy shit, you are one of the biggest stars and you're the most lovely person. Like it goes a long way to like keep yourself in check and be like not an egomaniac and like how do your parents and your

family feel about all of your success they just I mean freak out I played a show in St. Augustine that was like at the time my biggest headlining show and after the show their jaws are just on the floor my dad's like crying through the whole thing they're just like when did this happen like and they're just like like their neighbor neighbors will come up to them like where they live in savannah and like they're like my mom's like oh yeah that's our daughter like just telling my whole life story i'm like oh god maybe we should do some like mom pr training mom shut up mom yeah um but they're definitely like not used to it which I feel like I'm still getting used to it too but they're especially not used to like what the heck even like on this like my mom's like tell Alex I said hi we need to tell her to do a selfie after

this we're gonna be like hi mom we're here um no I think it's amazing I think you're doing a great job I think obviously with songwriters too like when you are writing about your life, it's going to open up questions for people and you are just gonna have to decide like how much you want to share and how much you don't want to share. And that's you're going to figure it out. okay do you typically make the first move or do you wait for the guy to i wait for the guy oh okay you've never made the first move i would i have made the first move i would say right now you gotta come to me you gotta go way too busy I get it you're like make it I don't have time to like scour I get it no I get that what is your what is like an immediate turn off for you what's your snapchat are people still fucking asking you that they are

they are and one guy what asked me once I said I don't have a snapchat he asked again and I was like babe I deactivated it when I was 16 like leave me alone no I feel like guys are so shady on snapchat that's like a warning flag I know I was like at what age do we stop do we stop now now 26 you stop yeah okay what is your best and worst quality in a relationship best quality I would say I'm very loyal worst I can't cook like I'm pretty useless and okay Megan that is like fucking fine like some bitches come on here and are like oh god let me tell you you're like I can't cook no no there's probably a worse one let me think no it's okay if that's it hype yourself up i'm like yes bitch order in a steak dinner you're fine yeah okay that's fine i mean i'm loyal i think you that's maybe a question for my ex-boyfriends we call them right now what do you what do you think all

your ex-boyfriends would say about you most of my exes like my proper boyfriends don't end on good terms um they get blocked my last one actually deleted his entire instagram what why were people finding him i'm not sure that's none of my business why no why does it end on such bad terms i think it's one of those things where we probably should let it go before it gets to that point and then it gets to a point where we're just like yep this last time though my last relationship I will say was like a very mature like once we were on the phone and once it was over I've never talked to him again and that's just like is what it is like I he had done something like over and over that I had asked him to just be more conscious of what he had a girl best friend um and okay I get girl best friends from childhood because you probably hooked up in high school and it was really weird and you're like we're never gonna do that again okay that's actually fair

this was like two year best girl best friend no and all I asked was if you're gonna if y'all because I had felt weird a little weird about it of course and I going to, if y'all, cause I had felt weird, a little weird about it. Of course. And I was just like, whenever y'all are together, just like send me a text. Let me know. Because something had happened when I was in Australia where I was having to track him. It's like a long thing. So I took him back after that. Like I'm saying I got better.

I never got better. I'm such a simp, Alex. I'm a simp. I love how this is full circle. You're like, call my therapist. Call my fucking therapist. Allison. No, I'm literally lover girl simp.

Like one thing about me, I'll give you 8,000 chances for you to show me that you're not the one. Megan. But anyways, this had to do with a girl best friend. All I wanted to know, I somehow was like, it's fine. Because I did believe, she's a nice girl. I just was like, can you please just let me know when y'all are together. I found out, once again, he did not let me know that they were together. And so we were perfectly fine.

Like we were doing better. He does that calls me. And I was like, yeah, this is like, I can't do this anymore. I'm like, right. Cause you're becoming crazy. Yeah. I become crazy. I'm like, it happened when it started in Australia.

I was like, I'm across the world right now. It's a different day and I'm tracking your ass. Like, I don't have time for this. Like I'm, I'm about to go perform for 25 000 people at this festival and like i'm worried about your damn location oh the south is coming out i love how the accent the accent just goes up when you're like let me fucking tell you oh on my location i'm obsessed oh my god megan no let me just validate you no now i'm sweating for you I also got chills though when you're like 25,000 people and I'm fucking tracking your ass like it puts it in

perspective like these boys these boys just a girl no dude that is fucked and let me tell you what makes me mad is many things what the fuck is wrong with you just being so chill and open being like just let me know when you're hanging out right that's all you asked you didn't say you you're not being controlling like you are not allowed to hang out after the sixth time i would then be like i don't feel comfortable anymore but you're being so chill and open and he can't do you the decency so then naturally any fucking human being if you tell someone to just tell you when they're doing it and they don't you're being shady right so what's happening when you're hanging out that you don't want me to know and like it may have never been shady but it's like you if you don't have the

decency i just asked you to do a very simple thing for me and like it would make and like because you already broke my trust with the australia thing if we could build this back you could build it back by letting me know but because you like and I feel like with therapy how I've grown in that way obviously I gave him a million chances but once it was over I was like okay you don't care about me or my feelings and like if I'm gonna date someone right now you gotta be spectacular because I'm so busy and this just isn't working so it honestly ended amicably yeah um I don't know why he deleted his Instagram I was gonna say I love how you keep flip-flopping you're like no we're friends we're friends you're like none of

my actions are friends you're like I think I pretend that we're friends but why did I block him he's like yeah there was a fire over on that side of the country but it's I'm insane I guess no it's totally fine you know what I think it's like you acknowledging all of this it's like you're recognizing patterns and you're seeing it half the people that come in here sometimes I'm like wait you realize that you're like completely aware what you're doing and I think it's awesome that you're now like and I have a standard now because I'm working my ass off your new album I just have to say like it's so incredible to see you put something out that is like so personal and also I feel like everyone like I said everyone can relate I'm listening to these things like yes oh my god

this has happened to me before I appreciate it what is the inspiration like when you sat down to even start conceptualizing this album what was the inspiration literally my personal life like every single one of these songs is inspired by my real life so it was like um I write songs when I feel like I need to like when I feel like it's literally therapy for me I don't know like music writing songs has saved my life over and over like I because I don't know what I would do with like those emotions it's like once I can write it down then it's just a song it's like it's almost like it didn't even happen to me you know what I mean and I don't know if that's even a healthy way to look at it but I think it is it's like you pour it all out and then you're like and then it's like okay well

it can be done and now that can be used to like heal people and that is what it's my story but now it can also be other people's story and I think but for this album, it's literally about my life. Same as all of my songs. I literally shout out to everyone who inspired the album. I love you so, so much. We also love you so, so much because it's fucking fire. Okay. The Daddy Gang is insane. And I feel like a lot of times I'll ask people like either what is your favorite song or

what is for you the most meaningful song and I know that's hard but then they're gonna go stream it so what is the most in your opinion like meaningful song to you on this album meaningful I would say heaven by noon yeah can you like tell us a little bit about that writing process yeah so heaven byon is a song about loss and grief. And it's like the 101st floor and um that that song was kind of written with my aunt in mind and I just can't imagine you know having that happen to you and it happened to a family member and I know that music is very healing so I'm happy that I wrote that song and I'm happy that it's out in the world and I know I was only four years old when that happened but the way it's affected my family like forever and will always affect my

family um I just had never written a song about loss and I think that it was important to write and um yeah we all miss my uncle Dennis. I mean, that's so beautiful. I just got chills because I'm thinking about like, everyone has that thing in their life and that person that they've lost. And I feel like to have a song that you can turn on when you're like missing that person or you're like, sometimes like you want a good cry you know what I mean and to be able to turn this on and be like thinking of that person and it's and I think that's what's so beautiful about songwriting and like what you're doing is like everyone's gonna find their

own angle in but everyone's gonna find an angle in because like that is it that is life that is loss is life you know what I mean it's like everyone goes through it and everyone has their own experience with it but like that is so powerful that you're someone that's now putting out a piece of work that like people in a beautiful way are going to cry to and slowly heal from. I think that's what the song is about. But that's why I wanted. I just feel like in all aspects of my life, I turned to music. And that's not something I'd written about yet. So we decided to for this album. I feel like you just did such an incredible job. And I feel like I'm happy I got to meet you. Because obviously, seeing you online and your songs, we see so much of you.

But this, I fucking love you. I love you. This was so much fun. Like college Megan would have a stroke dude literally like I but that's so cool to like know that in college you were like living a normal life and your whole life changed and now we're sitting here like I feel like people at home this is like the story people fucking love it's like literally anyone watching this right now your life could change overnight and I think that's why like going after what you love and doing what you love like don't let anyone fucking make you feel small especially a little fucking dick that's like I don't care about your fucking awards like well you should and if you don't buy bitch exactly

little dick energy and I know I said this earlier but like to even in college I know like caller daddy was uh I was walking around campus being like yeah block him wearing my unwell hat and just listening to like bizarre stories but to see like the brand that you've built it was like so inspiring and um yeah you're incredible thank you so much no thank you I I want last question to ask that is actually weird though to think like we were kind of at that same point when you're we're all like saying block him and now growing together like here and you're in therapy being like okay I need to change things up like that's what has also been so fun about this show is like growing with the audience and being like for sure we can be toxic as fuck and there is no one better at literally

and I personally think you have to be toxic in order to heal. Because if you're just healed, like, what the fuck? What the fuck? Right, like, what the fuck? Boring. There's a time and place to be healed. And trust me, the toxic will always, like, lightly be there. But it's not toxic. It's more just, like, a little bit of the crazy.

And if you are being toxic, you're aware. Sometimes. Shout out to Terry. Sometimes Matt literally looks at me and he's like,c you're being like old you stop it i'm like oh sorry i just wanted to feel something for a minute like sometimes the crazy comes out but it's controlled crazy agreed because of therapy okay last question for anyone who is getting to know you today and is becoming a bigger fan what do you hope they take away from this interview and learn about you i mean i hope it draws them to my music. I think that on my album, it feels just like living. I say it's like living as a

20 something year old, but it's also I feel like anyone could find something that they want or like and it's just about life. And so I feel like if you're a fan of mine, hopefully you get to know me better. I feel like it's hard. I try to let people get to know me, you know, on the Internet and at my shows. But I feel like this is the first time I've like sat down after everything has happened. So I feel like this is. Yeah, I hope everyone feels like they know me better and maybe I find a song they like. I feel like I know you better. I love you even more.

And your personality is fucking amazing. And you said before we started talking, you were like, I don't know you better I love you even more and your personality is fucking amazing and you said before we started like talking you were like I don't know if I like my voice you have a fucking amazing voice shut up it's so annoying I'm not gonna even be able to listen to this back it's like nails on a chalk trust me you crushed it thank you so much for coming on this was like an honor I'm so happy we got to meet and hang out I love you I love you too