Call Her Daddy - Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)

Episode Date: December 13, 2024

Welcome to the first episode of the CHD Summer Series. This week, Father Cooper sits down with Olivia Ponton. Alex and Olivia discuss their personal experience with long distance relationships…are they ever a good idea? Is it possible to live in the present while being in a long distance relationship? Summer has officially arrived and Pride Month has begun! Olivia reflects back on her first year of openly being a part of the LGBTQ+ community and shares what she has learned about herself along the way. The girls discuss their plans for summer, social media boundaries and Olivia dishes on a sky diving first date gone horribly wrong. Enjoy!

What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy. Olivia, welcome to Call Her Daddy. It's an honor to be here. So it's summer. It's June 1st. Yes ma'am. But you grew up in Florida. So was it summer like all the time for you? Yeah. I don't know. When I moved to Los Angeles. It was even weird like I don't know Like it getting cold that night. I'm like, what is this? Like I never fun fact

I never owned like a sweatsuit until I moved to Los Angeles Like I never own sweatpants growing up. Like what was it? Where was I gonna wear sweatpants to? Okay So did you cuz I'm thinking like this is basically kicking off like the summer vibe for call her daddy Did you and your family like what was your summer situation? Did you take trips and vacations during summer? Yeah, like my family's a huge on travel. So like each summer we would go to like a different country So I'm like very well diverse in the traveling. That's like why I live traveling so much my last summer at home We literally did like a European summer trip. It was a little weird like traveling with my family

Yeah, it's like we went to like all these crazy places, but I was like a European summer trip. It was a little weird like traveling with my family. It's like we went to like all these crazy places but I was like with my parents and I was like awesome. 17 years old and I'm like seeing like attractive people and I was like my mom is right there. Like I can't do this. I didn't even think about that of like when you're single and you kind of get to that age where you're traveling

with your family and you're like wait, I wish I was with my friends right now because I want to like go to the bars and like flirt. Exactly, exactly. But then it's like you're traveling with your family and you're like, wait, I wish I was with my friends right now because I wanna like go to the bars and like flirt. Exactly, exactly. And like maybe meet someone. But then it's like you're with your mom and you're just like, yeah. And my mom was like, do you see anyone attractive?

And I'm like, yeah, yeah. A lot of them, a lot of them, but I can't say anything. Right, well I'm gonna bring them back to the hotel room with my mom and my dad and we're all gonna cozy up together. Like what the fuck? Exactly. That's such a good point. Okay, I like completely forgot that concept

and I can feel that for you. Okay, I need to know this because I actually feel like this tells like a lot about someone. Yeah. Are you the type of person that can like sit on the beach with a book and relax and tan and not get up? Are you the person that's like, guys come play paddle ball, let's go in the ocean.

I feel like I'm like the second option. Like I'm always like, can we go do something? Like there's definitely my days where I'm like, okay, let play paddle ball. Let's go in the ocean. Let's go on a run. I feel like I'm the second option. I'm always like, can we go do something? There's definitely my days where I'm like, okay, let's literally go sit on the beach. I don't want to talk to anyone. My phone's like, they're on airplane mode all day, but then there's other times I'm like, I literally cannot sit still.

I'm like, can we? And in Florida, everyone has boats. So you go boating, you go wakeboarding. I water-skied for nine years of my life. So it was like, you were constantly doing something on top of like, just sitting and reading. Like that's like a California thing I feel. That you're actually so right.

I feel like Florida and California are completely different. And now you lived in both, which do you prefer? Ooh. Oh. That's, oh wow. I've never actually been asked that question before. I always get like New York versus LA. New York, I mean, LA versus Florida.

I would say I love Florida as a state, the weather-wise, and kind of my hometown's stunning. Don't really like what's going on with Florida right now. And then here, I mean, I like the people more. I like how open it is, how I'm able to be who I am and not get judged by anyone. You were named a Sports Illustrated swimsuit rookie for the class of 2022. Congratulations! Thank you. How does that feel? It was absolutely insane. Like I fell to the ground like crying. I was like no. I was

like this is not real. Like major imposter swim drum. I was like this is not real and then two weeks later I literally went to Montenegro. That's where we shot it which is like a really small place near Albania and like you travel by yourself like it's like a full deal and I'm like 19 years old so I was like I Have traveled by myself, but you know like New York to LA You know like LA to Mexico like stuff like that But never like a 14 hour flight like I stopped in Turkey for a little bit like no idea where I was going I was like I could really get lost right now. We and you're by yourself. Yeah, like coming back

I flew back with everyone because I was the last girl to shoot but like going there like I Like I can't even imagine going by myself at 19 years old to a foreign country Also to prepare for like one of like the biggest moments of your career. It's fucking huge. I was sitting in the airport just like, where am I? This is not real. I was like, what am I doing with my life? Okay, so you show up and I was thinking,

okay, obviously I'm sure there were so many glamorous moments of shooting this, but we need to hear, Olivia, the not so glamorous moments. What was an unglamorous moment with you that you were like, oh my god, people would never anticipate or get this? So it's swimsuits. So you think you're going and shooting somewhere warm. No, it was October time.

So in the place that we were, it was 40 to 50 degrees. And you're in thong bikinis. And you're shooting in the water. And it's freezing. And you're just thong bikinis, and you're shooting in the water, and it's freezing, and you're just sitting in there, and you're shaking. I have so many funny photos of me when you're in between changing, and I'm in this huge robe jacket situation,

and that was definitely a moment where I was like, nobody would ever guess that we're freezing in all of these photos. Oh no, cause when you look at them, you're like, oh my God, like it makes me wanna be on a beat. Yeah, but I was like, oh no, I was freezing. Like I was like shaking there and like, they probably have to like edit out my goosebumps

cause it's like so bad. Okay, well no one can tell that you were cold in the photo. So I have to give you props. You're like teeth are chattering and all of a sudden you're like. Yeah, it's like, it's like you're, there was the last shot that we we did I got like soaking wet and we were like on this ledge kind of situation where like water was like crashing on it but it

wasn't like in the water it was kind of odd but I was like laying down in it and the sun had already set so there was like not really any sun it was like very like glistening vibes but I kid you not it was probably like 30 degrees out maybe 40 and, it was like very glistening vibes, but I kid you not, it was probably like 30 degrees out, maybe 40, and the water was like absolutely freezing, and you're just getting like splashed with water, you're sitting there, you're trying to be like super sexy and like so glamorous, but you're like, I literally was like sitting there trying to roll around

on this block of cement, like trying to be sexy, and it was was definitely a moment where I was like, I really hope this comes out well. Congratulations, I mean, it's so cool to sit with you and hear the behind the scenes also, because it's such a cool moment. Also, especially because you're 19, Olivia. Is your family so stoked?

My family doesn't really process anything. Even the way I moved out, I was just kind of like, I'm gonna go to Los Angeles for two weeks and then I'll be back. And then I kind of just came here and I never left. How many siblings do you have? I have one older sister. Okay.

Blessing, love her. So you're like the baby that just left. Good for you. Okay, well you, not only are you blowing up in the modeling world, but you've blown up on TikTok. Yes. So we're gonna play a little game. Okay called tik-tok made me do it. Okay, okay a trend You've tried because of tik-tok Emily Mariko's like salmon

Avocado have you not tried it? No, she did like salmon rice avocado and like the seaweed packets And then you like mix it all together and you like make your own salmon roll. Okay, so now I need to go try it. Okay, something you've bought because of TikTok. You would think growing up in Florida, I've always been blonde, that I would know what purple shampoo was.

And then I got on TikTok and I got on TikTok right when like the purple shampoo thing was a trend and I was like, what is this stuff stuff and I went and it changed my life I was like so I was definitely something I was like oh that is such a good investment it's my best friend yeah okay a random fact that you've learned from TikTok this one's weird I also don't know if it's true I heard that your wingspan is how tall you are but I'm 5'9 and I feel like my wingspan's not 5'9". Okay, after this interview, I'm gonna get my tape measure

and we're gonna do the entire thing. No, that's actually, I've heard that too, I think, and I don't know if I believe it. Okay, a song you've added to your playlist because of TikTok. All of my music comes from TikTok, first of all. Recently, I've put this song on repeat every single day for, it's probably like a week

and a half now. It's called like 10 things I hate about you by um Leah Kate. I think she was just on tour with Madison Beer. I think she was like the girl who opened up for her and her that song just went like insanely viral on TikTok and I like see it everywhere and I'm like okay let me listen to it let me see if it's like the hype chameting in my car every day. So good. Okay, somewhere you've went because of TikTok. Hawaii. Hawaii is my favorite place.

And I feel like Italy, like I see Italy all over my For You page. I wanna go this summer so badly. Something you've become self-conscious of because of TikTok. Okay. Growing up, I was pretty confident. I was very independent.

Once I got on TikTok, I got very insecure about my boobs and my body, because I would just get the most meanest comments about it and I would just start overthinking and I'd be like, wow, I always loved my body. Looking up to models and whatnot, I was like, why is everyone, so I, you know, created boundaries and I like turned off my comments for like a solid,

like I think it was like two-ish months. And then eventually like I got more like secure with it. Have you ever responded back to like a troll and then regretted what you said? Not to a troll, but I actually used to be exactly like that, like in high school, because I was like independent, like I was very much like, I'm fighting for myself person. So not that I was a bitch, because I was like independent like I was very much like I'm fighting for myself person so not that I was a bitch but I was like

a little yeah kind of like um like why are you talking about me like especially girls in like high school I'd be like I would confront them I'm like why are you talking like crap about me right now so I feel like almost when I started social media I had to like create like a boundary like okay like you can't respond you know people in my life helped me a lot with that because I'll be like I'm gonna do it I'm gonna blow up on them and they and be like, okay, you can't respond. People in my life help me a lot with that because I'll be like, I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna blow up on them and they'll be like, calm down, it's okay, talk to my therapist

and I'm like, okay. It's hard, it definitely takes a different level of self-restraint because you don't know the person and so I guess that's why it's so easy for them to be mean to you because they don't know you and then you reply back and I've done it before where I'm like, that was dumb, why did I give into that? And I now don't do it either.

Today is June 1st, the first day of Pride Month. You've been so open about your sexuality. What are your plans to celebrate Pride this year? I just love Pride Month so much. But I would say, so last Pride Month I came out on June 1st as bisexual, so I feel like kind of Pride Month last year was me kind of figuring out what it was like to be bisexual. Being on social media and being like, wow, people are so accepting. And then you're also dealing with the not so nice people in the streets or when you

go to the parades, dealing with the mean people and just being like, I feel like this year, I'm definitely, there's West Hollywood Pride, June 3rd, and then there's obviously New York Pride. I think New York Pride is better personally, so definitely will be then. That's so exciting for you that you can fully lean in this year.

Let's go back to the moment you came out, right? How did you tell your friends and family? I called my mother and there was a lot of moments where I was like, I'm just gonna do it. Like spur of a moment, I was like, I just need to tell her like, it's such a secret and you kind of just hold it in for months and months that you're like, okay, I'm gonna do this.

My mom was coming to visit me in two weeks and I was kind of lying to her about the relationship I was in. I was, you know, didn't really know exactly how to be like, hey mom, I'm in a relationship with a female and I eventually called her up one day and was just like spit it out and like gave 20 facts about the LGBTQ community and about my relationship and she just was like, okay, like, cool. And I was like, okay, yeah, bye. And we like didn't talk for two weeks and then she came and visited me and she was like

totally okay with it. And I was like, oh, this is awesome. Did she tell the rest of your family for you? I'm assuming because I never told my dad. I feel like I kind of came out with my dad by sending him, I got him a shirt that said my daughter's gay. And I shipped it to him because it was Pride Month. And I was like, oh, I feel like I should get my family

some rainbow swag. And just bought him my daughter's gay shirt. And he sent me a picture of him smiling with him on. And I was like, okay, he knows. He knows, that was kind of me coming out to him. I love the not so subtle gesture, it's so baller. You're like, here you go, dad. If mom hasn't told you already, let's get into it.

Oh, fully. And then my dad has always been like, love whoever you want, I don't care. And I was like, oh, cool. That's amazing. And was your sister same, did you send her a shirt? I feel like no. No I called her because this was like right when we were getting close again and I was like oh I feel like I should like call my sister and be like hey by the

way like you're probably gonna see it on social media soon so and she like screamed she was so excited for me she was like no way I'm so excited so excited for you. But I was like, oh perfect reaction I was like, thank you. Thank you sister. That's why like I appreciate you sharing that just because I know there's probably a lot of people That could be listening that are also going through what you went through a year ago, right? Yeah haven't come out yet Maybe they don't know how to do it. It's so hard like you have to really figure out what works best for you. Like with my dad, like I could, I tried telling him. Probably like 20 times. Like there would be times where I'd be at home

and I'd be like, okay, go up, tell him. He's sitting there, he's not doing anything, just tell him. I was like, I couldn't do it. So I mean, my dad had a very like funny relationship. Like, you know, like, so like a lot of dad jokes. So I was like, I feel like that's kind of something that's funny that he would look at it and he would laugh but he would be like oh wait okay like okay like this is oh that's cute it's almost like to Kate like look at each relationship and cater

like how you feel and what your relationship with them is and like feel safe in the way that you've always felt safe with like your dad it's humor yeah and with my mom it's like we're deeper, so it's just kind of like me just telling her that was like she obviously knew that took a lot from me to say to her, so she was like, okay. Was your mom the first person you came out to? Well, I guess not, because you had a girlfriend at the time.

Yeah, I would say, like I always kind of knew and I feel like I had one best friend where we kind of came out to each other because we were like, I think I am, but I'm not sure. And I'd also, I was the type of person that was like, I don't want to come out until I 1,000% know that I am. Because there's always the possibility

where it really gets down to it, that you're like, oh, I don't think I could do that. And so I would say them, or just kind of like, I mean, my best friend right now, Emma, we would always have conversations. So I would say them or just kind of like, I mean my best friend right now, Emma, we would always have conversations. We would be like, I think that I am, but I'm not sure. Like I think, and then I met my first girlfriend and I was like, okay, I am.

How did you deal with those internal feelings of struggling to figure it out for yourself? Yeah, I was very homophobic towards myself. internal feelings of struggling to figure it out for yourself. I was very homophobic towards myself, so even when I was out, I was like, no I'm not. I don't know, there was always the back-end thoughts. It's kind of like being insecure. You're confident with it, but I was also like, is this bad? Is something bad gonna happen?

This isn't okay. I'd get random comments, and I'd be like really overthinking it. So I would say just kind of like, for me it was like I needed to be in a relationship with a female to be like okay I'm 1000% in this. I came out and like you know really realized and like so many things made sense. Like when I was younger I was like oh,

that's the feeling that I had with that person, okay. Got it, so then it kind of then that's amazing to also hear, then it started to all kind of click for you, but I love how you also compare it to that insecurity feeling of the unknown and not knowing how to handle that. I think everyone can relate to that feeling. What is the biggest thing that you've learned about yourself over the past year?

Definitely, when I came out, I came out as bisexual and I was in a really long-term relationship and then I got out of it and was able to experiment with all kinds of people. And I mean, I'm so happy, but I figured out that I was pansexual and I came out with that in the past year. So I feel like that was kind of something,

probably the biggest thing that I kind of realized about that in the past year. So I feel like that was kind of something, probably the biggest thing that I kind of realized about myself in the past year. Can you talk about, just for anyone that doesn't understand the difference between being bisexual and pansexual? Yeah, so the difference between it is bisexual is just like being boys and girls, or you know, men and female. And with being pansexual, it's like anyone. And I would say almost with being pan,

for me it's like I care more about the vibe between the two people and like the connection that we have. And you know, it's also being open to talking to non-binary people, to be open to talking to transgender people. And I feel like for me, like I'm so open to anything. So I feel like that's just kind of when I met someone who was non-binary and I was like, oh, I really like you, I was like, okay.

So I feel like it's honestly very similar and I think when people think, it's so much more common than people realize. And I think it's great when anyone speaks up about it because it's not their responsibility to educate us, but it is our responsibility to listen. Are there any pansexual celebrities that you admire? Okay, Madison Bailey.

She's in Outer Banks. Love her. Obsessed. When I found out she's pansexual, I feel like I loved her like 10 times more because I was like, yes. There's Cara Delevingne. Obviously, I think she's absolutely stunning. I feel like just also with being pansexual,

it's like you really just don't care. Like with, I mean, with bisexual, I feel like I don't really care either, but it's like you really don't care. Like it is purely an emotional relationship when you are with dating someone who is pansexual. You know, before I even came out, I was to the T, focused on being a male's ideal woman.

And I achieved it. I was to the tee focused on being a male's ideal woman. And I achieved it. I was the blonde, long haired, super glammed out, every single day girl. And I had male's attention 24-7, but I was like, it really came down to it. It was all a validation thing. I was like, I just wanted them to call me pretty, so I felt validated.

But it was like, I didn't like them. So I was like, that's kind of my journey with figuring out that I was bisexual because I was like, oh, you're telling me I'm pretty, makes me feel really good, but then I'm like, I don't like kissing you, I don't like doing this. I'm like, mm. You're raised to be like, so which boy do you like?

And even aside from the sex part of it, you're more just like, oh, so I'm supposed to like a boy and hopefully they like me. So it starts so young. Exactly, and it starts with the hopefully they like me part is really where it gets in your brain. Because honestly, I think women are pieces of art and we deserve for the boys to be like,

oh, are they going to like me back? Not us being like, does he like me? Oh my gosh, is he gonna text me back? Oh my gosh, does he wanna go on a second date? It's like, no. Do, like you should be asking yourself that. Do you like him? Yeah.

And I feel like that's almost like a question that I was like start asking myself more recently. It's like, I'll notice about myself being like, oh, like why aren't they texting me back? But I'll be like, hold on. Do I even like them as a person? I'm like, I'll calm down and I'll be like, put my phone away and I'll sit in the mirror

for like 20 minutes and I'll be like, I'll literally write down all the green flags, all the red flags and I'll come to a conclusion, I'll be like, I probably don't like them. I just crave it. That's such a good point. When you're dating, it really is interesting. I feel like I saw a TikTok on this recently

of someone being like, you're constantly looking at the person that you're on a first date, second date with, and you're hoping that they're gonna like you. And it's like, you leave that first date, did you like them? Did you like their personality? How did you feel around them?

And so many people forget that, that you need to like go home and be like, are they the type of person that I wanna spend the next years with? Or do I just like the validation? Exactly, and I feel like that's something that I struggle like till this day. I'll be like, oh my gosh, like I liked them so much,

kind of, do they like me back? And then I'll sit there and I'll be like, I'll talk about it with my mom, because we talk all of the time, and I'll be like, yeah, I'm kind of like how they made me feel but I'm kind of just craving the validation right now so I'm like I need to cut things off and just stop this here. I think that's very relatable. Okay how has being open about who you really are affected your mental health? It affected it amazingly. Um as before I was

like living in a secret kind of, and I wasn't able to tell the people in my life what was going on. I'd be like, yeah, works good. So I feel like when I came out, it just helped it tremendously. I was able to be so open about who I liked, what I liked, going on dates, telling people everything.

And I feel like also just with myself, kind of accepting it made just something in my brain click and it clicked. And it made me so much happier on like the day-to-day basis. Okay, I remember lightly seeing, there were like ridiculous rumors on TikTok that you came out for attention. People were saying one of your relationships was fake.

Why do you think that happened? So this also struggles. This is something that I struggle with on the day to day is like I'm very hyperfem and you know looking at me this is one thing that like I eventually want to change in the LGBTQ community is like being femme and being gay is a very common thing and I think it's why a lot of girls are scared to come out because they're like, oh, and I think it's why a lot of girls are scared to come out because they're like, oh, but I don't look the certain way, but it's like, there's no certain way that you have to look. Like, I dress like this every day, I do my makeup,

I do my hair, and I'm very gay. So people just also didn't want to accept it, like, because I was catering to the men audience so much that they were just kind of, almost I feel like hurt by it, and they were just like, no you're not, you're not gay, and I was like, wait, yeah I am. I was like, hold on, I was like, this was a lot.

I can assure, none of my relationships have ever been fake, especially because I'm very emotionally invested in people, that when people would say it was fake, I'd be like, nah. Yeah. I don't even have the mental capacity to have a fake relationship right now, so. How has being open about your sexuality

affected your friendships? So in my hometown, it was a little hard. I lost some friends there just because lack of education. People just don't wanna believe, or they just are like, wait, that doesn't make sense. Or it comes down to the, wait, were you attracted to me thing? And I was like, no, I wasn't.

Just wanted to let you know that I am in a relationship with a female or I'm bisexual or whatever it would be. So I would say a little hard in my hometown. But- Was that most of it, would they say to you, oh, are you attracted to me? Did anyone ever say to you, like, oh, are you attracted to me? Like, did anyone ever say to you? Yeah, oh, fully all the time.

And I'd be like, I think you would know if I would be attracted to you. Like, I would flirt with you or something of the sort. I'm also not one to be attracted to somebody and not say anything. Like, if I like you, I'm going to flirt with you and I'm going to, you know, I'm very honed down on it. So, but in Los Angeles, I lost no friends.

Like, it was kind of awesome, cause I even got the opportunity to make friends with other people in the LGBT community by being open about it and just being like, oh, like, it's like kind of something to bond about. I also love the confidence of you being like, you know what, I'm gonna own it, I'm gonna give you guys another chance,

I'm gonna explain it to you, and you can take it for what you want it to be. Because it's lack of education, they don't know, and it's like, maybe they are too, and they just don't know. And it's just kind of the lack of experience as well. ["Darling, I'm here for you"] So in terms of relationships, everyone is always writing into me like, Alex, give us

advice on long distance relationships. How the fuck do I maintain this? What do I do? Is it worth it? Should I stay with this person? You've had a long distance relationship. How did you manage to stay close with someone who lives so far away? Well, I've had numerous long distance relationships

and it's hard. I feel like with myself, every relationship I get into is long distance, even my friendships. All my friendships are long distance. It's kind of weird to say, but it's like, I'll go two months without seeing my friends and I'll be like, love you guys. I FaceTime them.

I think FaceTime is probably the best advice that I could give and schedule times to FaceTime. So it's not just like a oh, they're not answering me. It's like no, we're gonna go get smoothies together via FaceTime once a week or twice a week or however much you want to like have that communication with them. I feel like that would be the best. I also don't strongly recommend long distance even though like I can't say that because I'm literally that would be me. Olivia remember this for the next one. Yeah but it's like regardless like anything with me it's like being by

coastal it's like well I could have a relationship in New York but then I come to LA and it's gonna be long distance or I go to I travel besides just New York and LA I'm constantly in different places. So I feel like I Don't recommend it, but it's also kind of inevitable in certain situations I do appreciate though like I have did the same thing when I was somewhat long-distance Scheduling those FaceTime dates you naturally would be probably going on a date this Thursday night Okay, let's have a date night FaceTime date exactly and schedule that time. That's really good advice Yeah, definitely.

And then you guys can cook dinner on the phone together and eat dinner. And it's like a three hour FaceTime call. And people will be like, oh, that's so stupid. But honestly, it's not, because I haven't seen them in two weeks and I want to tell them about work or whatever it would be. Do you think being in a long distance relationship

makes it more difficult to live in the present moment? 1,000%, yes. I mean, I'm sure you know. My screen time was probably doubled when I was in any long distance relationship, because I'm always texting the person just being like, hey, I'm thinking about you. You're at an event, and I feel like at events, it's work.

So you're there, and you're trying to be on your A game, but then you're like, oh I haven't answered them in five hours. I need to text them. I even got down to the point where I was texting them probably every 20 minutes and it was like, okay, Olivia, get off your phone. You're at work right now, stop.

That's why they are so hard is because I'm thinking about it's like you can feel guilty, you can start to feel insecure, like what is the other person doing exactly because my also thing is I will like post on my social media and not answer anyone and people get so offended by that and I'm like no no no like it's it's not I haven't even opened my text yeah like all of my text messages are I haven't answered my mom today like it's it's not a personal thing it's like oh I like had to post this at this time

or I'm in the car and I'm taking a selfie. Like I'm not answering text messages. Like no, I'm taking a picture. I'm posting my story. Like it's not that deep. I've had in long distance when you know they're going out and you're not. And you're like, I'm sitting in my pajamas

with my pimple cream on and you see that they're like going to the club and you want to not be over the top, because you don't want to trigger them of, oh god, I have my crazy girlfriend being like, well, are you going to text me when you're at the club, so you're trying to be chill, but then you're also making me feel secure?

Because like, right? It's hard. Exactly. And I think that was honestly probably the hardest thing, just in a long distance relationship in general. I've gone months without seeing the person. It's like well, and I go out like a decent amount for like events and work and dinners

and not being on my phone and it's like oh crap, like I don't ever want them to feel insecure because they shouldn't. Was there anything ever you or a partner did that was like super cute to keep it fun and like surprise one another? Ooh, ooh, I personally hate surprises. I've never been a surprising person. I'm like, no, like just tell me. Like if you're planning on coming see me, just tell me. I feel like just other cute things like just like fun dates

like like more recently I have a rule. I will not go to dinner with someone like you want to take me on a date. We are not going to dinner. Like let's go do something. Like I had this guy, I told him that. And I was like okay cool. And he was like okay I have a crazy day planned, like let's do this. And I was like okay.

He was like wear like athletic leisure. So I was like okay maybe we're going to go work out. I don't know like boxing, something. And he picks me up and we're in the car for maybe like 45 minutes. And I'm like, oh, like where are we? I also lived in Calabasas. So we were like driving further.

So I'm like, where are we going? Also first date. So I'm like, this man could kill me. Oh yeah, Olivia, I'm like, are you gonna die? Like what? And all of a sudden he like looks at me and he's like, we're going skydiving. What?

He was like, I'm scared of heights. I probably should have told you this before that, but I am like deathly afraid of heights. To skip forward, I actually ended up getting out of the car and Ubering home and I was like, I never talked to him again. I was like, no, like this is, that was kind of like the biggest red flag that like you were gonna take me skydiving.

To take someone skydiving on a first fucking date when you've never met in person, how did you meet that person? I met them because I used to live in a content house so our content house would have events. So it was an event that we were having and we just had mutual friends and I was like, oh, you're cool, and he's very spontaneous.

So I was like, okay, I need to date someone that's spontaneous. So I was like, oh, like you're cool. Like, and he's very like spontaneous. So I was like, okay, like I need to date someone that's spontaneous. So I was like, okay, cool. Like got it. Like let's do this. And then he just took it too far. It just went right over his head. Like the spontaneous.

So you just said, Hey, I'm not down. And you just Ubered back. I just was kind of like, can you pull over? Did he go skydiving? I don't think so. I don't, I don't, I like literally like never answered him after that. I was like, sayonara, dude. OK, also because you're afraid of heights?

Yeah. No. I was like, I'm already definitely scared of planes, even as much as I am on them. I'm terrified of planes. So I was like, the fact that you just asked me to jump out of one with you, I don't even trust you. I don't even know you.

I'm like, we're not even dating. I'm like, hold on. It's where you can be romantic if you're with the love of your life, and you're like, let's do this, you, I don't even know you. I'm like, we're not even dating. I'm like, hold on. This is- It can be romantic if you're with like, the love of your life and you're like, let's do this and who knows what's gonna happen. It's like, bitch, I don't know you. Yeah, I was like, this is a lot for me.

I was like, get me out of this car right now. I'm not risking my life with a random. Exactly. Okay, so with regard to all the long distance relationships you've had, did most of them end because of the long distance? I feel like it would be a factor in it, but it was never the pure reason that I was like,

we're breaking up because of distance. I should have never, I should have cut the relationship off when it became long distance in any relationship, just because it made things way harder than it needed to be. That's why I don't recommend long distance, but you know. Do you think there's an expiration date to like all long distance relationships?

I would say like max like, I mean it also depends what kind of long distance you are because I know friends that live in Los Angeles and then like the other significant other lives in Vegas and it's like, that's such a quick flight back and forth. They see each other like all the time, but it's like also for and it's like that's such a quick flight back and forth they see each other like all the time but it's like also for me it's like If I were in Los Angeles and I was dating someone in New York, it's like first of all different time zones also

I'm kind of not just in one specific time zone I'll be like when I was in my sports illustrator like in Montenegro like the time difference The time difference I think was like nine hours. And it's like, I don't even talk to you the whole day because when you're sleeping, I'm awake, and when I'm awake, you are sleeping. Or even when people are going to different colleges from each other, and they're like,

should I break up with this person? I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, but probably because it's like, you're not going to be present. Yeah. And we're too young to not be present in our lives. And that was my biggest thing. I was missing out on all these crazy opportunities

because I was like, oh no, my partner won't feel comfortable with this. I'm so sorry. And it's happened numerous times with numerous partners. It's just kind of a me thing that I feel almost I need to work on. We don't live in the present at all. Yeah. um but you don't live in the present at all.

Okay so more general dating questions. Do you consider flirting, cheating? 1000% why are you flirting with someone else? If your partner has never posted any pictures of you on social media, do you consider that a red flag? Any, like if they haven't posted any, I think it's a red flag, 1000%. I also do think it's a really red flag if they're posting you a lot and consistently,

just from my own knowledge of things that have happened, I'm like, okay, know what I'd like, know what I don't like. So I feel like that's moving forward. I'm like, mm. Yeah, don't. Why are you doing that too much? Yeah, like a camera in my face in the morning, maybe not.

Yeah. Okay, is it okay to break up with someone through a text message? Yes, and people are so controversial. Do you think, do you think it's- I wasn't expecting you to be so definitive. So I know I'm just, yeah. No, I'm

1000% I have broken up with people over text message. I have been broken up with numerous times over text message I've been broken up over an email before like I've been broke up on Instagram DMs Snapchat like anything that it's like I don't I just take like any form of social media. Also when you're long distance, it's like, am I really gonna try this person on for the next month until I see them and then break up with them? Like, no, then that becomes messy and then there's like. But maybe could you call them? Well yeah, oh yeah, also that.

I've called people, yeah, I've done that. Better than email, the email, what is the subject line of a breakup email? We're done, sorry, Goodbye. Have a nice life. Yeah, that's rough. It's rough, but I get what you're saying. In some circumstances, it could be maybe justified. I think an Instagram DM is a little aggressive, Olivia.

Well, I didn't do that. I just got broken up with over an Instagram DM, and I was like, this was harsh. I was like, okay. Yeah, that is harsh. That's really harsh. Can you unsend it so I don't have to see it anymore. Okay, which is worse for you a heated argument with your partner in front of a your parents

Okay, your friends or see your people you work with. Oh definitely the people I work with because I think with my family and friends I can like definitely the people I work with. Because I feel like with my family and friends, I can justify it and be like, no, I swear they're a good person. Work people, they're like, we saw that, uh-uh, they're done, next, no, no, no. You are not going back to this person,

we see their true colors, we want what's best for you, no. I was like. I kind of agree, and it's kind of embarrassing, again, you can justify it, it's a dumb fight, and you go to your parents, and you're like, okay, we're having an off day. To the work people you work with you're like I don't even I we shouldn't even have to be having this conversation because this is work and like why are we now why did you just watch me fight with my partner? Like not a cute look.

Totally. Okay so you being on social media so often I think like everyone that is on social media on social media so often. I think like everyone that is on social media, I definitely think in the pandemic, it was like kind of almost not, I would never say healthy, but like it was helping a lot of people with loneliness and TikTok came about because everyone was like finding almost a community through there.

Now I think a lot of people are back to talking about the negative effects of social media. And there's a lot of like detrimental things to our mental health that come from it Can you talk about the boundaries that you personally have had to set for yourself with social media? I started using the feature on your phone where it's like the do not disturb where you get like zero notifications. It's awesome It's so good people hate me because I don't answer but I'm like Like I'll and you don't even get phone calls. My phone is not buzzing at all.

I'm like, this is awesome. I have not, nobody's trying to contact me. All of a sudden I look at my phone and there's like 20 missed calls. I'm like, dang it. So I feel like boundaries wise, I mean even when I turned off my comment section for that time because I couldn't read people

making fun of my body anymore. And I feel like just it came down to a point where I now have very strong boundaries with me on social media and certain things I'll talk about and bring up and be like, hey, that wasn't cool, but kind of just genuinely doing that. Yeah, I think, I mean, I don't have my comment section on anymore,

and I think a lot of people still to this day are like, oh, you can't take the heat, and I'm like, it's people still to this day are like oh you can't take the heat and I'm like it's actually not it was actually that I I will I yeah it was hurting my feelings yeah that it I were just like wasn't helping my life so I turned them off and now I think I've gotten to the point where I'm like why yeah why would I like go back because I don't really want to hear and I do love when people are so nice and and they're like, oh, open your comments so we can like hype you up, like you look great. But I'm like, you know what?

It's like the negative validate or the negative comments, like also sometimes how much positive validation we get on the internet is not normal also. So kind of like, I think it was probably a good idea for a moment to like step back if it's affecting you. What is your advice for people who are bombarded with images on social media that make them feel bad about themselves? I was literally talking.

I was dealing with this two mornings ago. I mean, I feel like every morning I wake up and I scroll through my Instagram, I'm like, oh, what's going on? And I feel like I get bombarded. I mean, I follow all the amazing models. And don't get me wrong, love women. Literally love women

But sometimes it like really messes with your head because you're like, oh like like you were talking about like oh my stomach doesn't look Like that. Oh my boobs don't look like that. Oh, like they're working out right now. Oh my gosh I haven't worked out today. Like I need to go work out things like that. And I feel like my advice would to be Social media that one picture is Social media, that one picture is literally so constructed. It's by a really good photographer. You have your hair done, you have your makeup done, you have your nails done. That's not what I look like 24-7. Even right now, I look like this maybe, like, I don't even know.

Like, not that often. Like, I was doing my makeup and I was like, wow, I haven't put like a face of makeup on in like a few weeks. I'm like, this is weird. But just kind of like people present themselves as like the best possible version of themselves. So I feel like on social media, you just gotta remind yourself like, okay, this was a split second on one time of their day.

It's not real. Yeah, everyone is going to present their perfect life. And even think, if you have an insecurity, think about yourself, what did you just post? Yeah. A perfect looking version of. Exactly, and that's even the part that messes with my head because I'm doing the same thing.

I'm falling in the trap. I'm posting these beautiful photos that I get back and I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm so excited to post this. But it's probably detrimental to other people. And I'm like, ah, so I get in my head about it. I'm like, I don't want it. I'm kind of on a boycotting Instagram right now because I don't want to fall into that,

even though I very much am guilty of already doing it. But. Yeah, it's like a vicious cycle. I don't post as much as I used to, definitely, because I keep having to remind myself, like, wait, why am I posting this again? Like, who is this for? Yeah, like, mm.

What's the point of this? Yeah. So, Summer, like I said, wrapping it up, summer is upon us. Olivia, do you have advice for women that are just trying to go live their best life in summer, but maybe are feeling a little insecure, are feeling like they're not ready to get out there and live their best life

because they're seeing things on social media and they're like, I can't live up to that. I mean, I feel like, honestly, my biggest thing is like just do it. I've even noticed when I first moved to New York I had zero friends. I knew nobody besides my agent and I was in like this pickle for like an awkward three months because I didn't know anyone and I was like I have no friends I'm nervous to do anything and then I just started like doing stuff and I

would go to the gym and I would walk and go get coffee and I would like honestly go to Central Park and like walk around and it's like Just you'll be at the hot dog stand and you'll see the girl right next to you and she looks cool And I'm like hey like what's out like my name is Olivia, and it's kind of like that situation It's way easier than people process and yes, it's very anxiety-filled But once you kind of like turn it as in especially New York City like that's a I think that's great advice so many women write in being like I'm in a new city how do I make friends and like the fact that you're like you literally just turn someone like hey I'm Olivia

like yeah you're kind of right like a lot of these cities specifically like I know people have moved to Austin Nashville like so many people are moving to these cities Chicago and they're like, got no friends, but we're all saying it, so just maybe try and introduce yourself and see what happens. I'm so excited for summer, I'm going to Egypt. I'm like, oh my god. Olivia's going to Egypt, and I'm gonna be on my couch

watching your Instagram stories. No, you will not. I'm so excited for you, honestly, congratulations on everything. Thank you. Getting that swimsuit, it's just truly, I grew up looking at that shit. Honestly, congratulations on everything. Like getting that swimsuit. Like it's just truly like I grew up looking at that shit. Oh me too.

I don't believe it's so. A dream. I'm like wait, I saw myself and I was like, that's, no, that's not me. That's not me. But I'm like, have it in my, I printed it out in like the huge form and I put it in my apartment.

So like I can look at it and be like, that is me. Damn. Remember that Olivia. Yes. Happy and be like, that is me. Damn. Remember that Olivia. Yes. Happy Pride Month. Thank you Olivia for coming on. Thank you for having me. ["Dreams of a New World"]