Call Her Daddy - Reneé Rapp: Sex Lives of College Girls

Episode Date: March 1, 2023

Reneé Rapp joins Call Her Daddy to discuss the hardships she's navigated while managing the rise of her career. Reneé speaks about growing up in North Carolina and the difficulties she faced when trying to come out to her friends and family. She explains why her first year on set at Sex Lives of College Girls was a horrible experience and why she hated going into work. Reneé opens up about her struggles with disordered eating and how those struggles were exacerbated while working on Broadway. She details her experience in a toxic relationship and takes Alex through her dating history person by person. Stick around for Reneé’s live performance of “Too Well” and “Bruises." This episode includes discussion of disordered eating. Please keep this in mind when deciding if, how and when you’ll listen. For resources on these topics, visit spotify.com/resources.

what is up daddy gang it is your founding father alex cooper with call her daddy renee rap welcome to call her daddy thanks man i am so happy to have you here every fucking other dm on instagram is like please have renee on please have renee on i'm like i know i want to have her on everyone come down it's gonna fucking happen so i'm so happy that we're giving the people what they want today always let's update the people on how you're feeling you're a little hungover yeah what did you do last night well i went so there was there was a spotify uh party last night because it's grammy week are we supposed to go to that well good thing you're seeing me today not last night because sometimes most of the time when i get drunk or sober we like me and my friends always like get in fights and stuff not with each

other with other people oh okay note to self don't run into Renee when I'm drunk no genuinely don't actually because also it's not a good representation of who I am so you are like the moment right now I feel like everyone is fucking talking about you you're everywhere I was just telling you before like I'm scrolling on TikTok and every other fucking scroll is you and I told you I'm like thank fucking god it's you though because I actually like you when you have that one person on your algorithm you're like get the fuck off my page oh you're like please leave me alone but actually how does it feel to be where you're at in your career right now I feel like it feels like equal parts exciting and equal parts um scary and also like the biggest part of it is like i just like i talked so much

shit my whole life about doing this so like thank fucking god i'm finally doing it because i think like it would have been like really embarrassing if it didn't work out you're saying like you would tell everyone like oh i'm gonna fucking make it i'm gonna be a singer or an actress or i literally like when i was in fifth grade i told my parents i was like i'm not going to college i'm gonna be beyonce where did you get that confidence do you think i have no idea it's like delusion it's all delusion i genuinely don't fucking know you just like always knew you were meant to be a performer and you loved it 100 i always only ever wanted to do music like that was just like it i was just like i was like writing songs before i could like talk like there's like videos of me like naked while i was a child not not um there's like videos of me like you're not creepily

but like um as like a child like in like a diaper with like a harmonica like making like what would be like a song and shit like that and then like writing things okay so you grew up in charlotte yeah which when i was like getting prepared for this interview i was like why did i think you're like a city girl like you come off as like born and raised in new york and then you do give like oh my god i don't know maybe you just like give that energy and so i'm like wow you're from the south i lie a lot and say that i'm from charlotte i'm like technically from outside of charlotte in like a town called Huntersville which is just like hick what was your high school experience like the high school was wild for me because my first two years in high school I went to like a normal high school

and then I transferred to an art school because it's a very like long-winded thing but being that I wanted to be Beyonce and i didn't want to go to college um yeah i had to and my parents were like my dad was like kicking me out of the house he was like what the fuck are you doing you don't think you're gonna go to college i was like bet that i'm gonna show you and so high school was weird because i was in a regular high school for the first two years and i absolutely hated myself and it just sucked why did you hate yourself um I like I was such an overly emotional kid always and I still am like a very like hyper emotional person and I just like I think like I come off very hard at least I thought I used to um and I am so sensitive and so I think like the like

duality of me like coming across kind of hard and like confident and like cool and like very chill and then like actually like everything fucking hurting me like beyond belief was nauseating and I also had horrible friends like horrible friends and I had really horrible friends when I was a kid and so it was just like years of like me like despising who I was emotionally my friends and my friends mothers despising who I was period end of that sentence and it was just it was just crazy but then when I switched to the arts high school I kind of started just like doing my own thing. And I mean, it was still actually like trash. And like the friends, moms hating me, like got like 10 times worse. Wait, why are these moms hating you? Yeah, let me fucking tell you.

So the theater mommies didn't like me. They did not fuck with me. They created a group chat about me. I was told through my friends that there was this group chat that was basically them like shitting on the like high school musical casting process and shitting on the fact that I had whatever. And I was like, OK, so grown people are also stupid because I was like I was like you're 40 plus year old women hating on a teenager.

Right. For your kids sake. That's embarrassing. I can actually relate a lot to you saying like you almost have this like really hard exterior but inside you're super sensitive but i'm assuming you're like in those situations like high school it can be off-putting to some kids of like why is she so cocky and confident all this where it's like 100 i'm i'm having to at times fake it so i believe in myself absolutely but it

can be off putting to other people 100 so socially you're like i'm just trying to fucking be beyonce over here okay and trying to get out of charlotte thank you for seeing me yes but i get where like in those like high school environments yeah it can be like very like well she's the fucking bitch or she's this and she's that when it's really like well why do you think Renee is acting this way like maybe she's feeling whatever it was like well and also like to be clear like I don't think it absolves me from ever being a bitch because like I can remember thousands of times in like school growing up that I was a total bitch yeah completely which I think like, and maybe not everybody feels this way.

Maybe I really am just a bitch, but like I like can remember like so many things from my childhood that I'm like, holy shit, I cannot believe I fucking did that. Or oh my God, I can't believe I said that. If you had to try to get underneath it,

like why do you think you have that like anger in you? I have anger issues. I have a mood disorder like I just like I have like my different little like mental health things yeah um but I think like now I understand it so much better right um because I just I'm so emotional yeah I'm just really really really super sensitive when you said like you would lie about being from Charlotte why would you lie about that I like resented like being from like the like south so much and also like where I grew up in Charlotte or hello right where I grew up in Huntersville um is like super like ass backwards and like very conservative at least it was when I was a kid and so like I just felt like very I was like I just really do not fit here I was like I do not fit here like I felt like everybody was like super like fucked and

like homophobic and like just like not fun and great and it was just it just like sucked which I feel like then like again makes sense of like that recipe for like you pushing against the grain of what everyone else was doing feeling like you weren't meant to be there career-wise and also with your sexuality being from the south and having like you're saying everyone being like homophobic when did you start to like explore your sexuality um when i was when i was 14 i like was doing a musical and this girl who was the lead of the musical like just looked super like i don't know she was just just like different. Like she just, she had like red, like spiky hair and like she never wore a bra and like that was so nice to me. That was nice.

I was like, that's good. She's different, you know, because like growing up in fucking Huntersville, like it was just like, I was like,

damn. But yeah, she was just like so cute to me and she was much older than me and she carried herself with just like the most like amazing demeanor ever of like,

I felt like she was just like super like, fuck it, like whatever. And I was just like obsessed with her. And I figured out one day I went home

because I genuinely, and this is like, I don't know if this is a bad thing or if it's not, but honestly, I was just like so intrigued by her. And like, she never wore a bra,

which was amazing but i was like i can't i i cannot i cannot stop looking at this girl's boobs like i like like that was the moment that i was like oh okay and i went home and i started full-blown crying had a meltdown i was like oh my god i'm gay I was like damn it I was like that's crazy because like I had never heard anything surrounding that in a positive light because the one like queer person that I knew in my life is a family member of mine who I really looked up to who got absolutely shitted on by everybody in our family and so so all I ever heard was like, oh, like, and she was bisexual at the time. They were like, oh, well, she needs to pick a side.

And like, oh, well, she's, you know, she just, she's whatever, whatever. You shouldn't be around her kind of thing. Like, you never know who's going to, like, make you gay. Genuinely. And so I had a full-blown panic attack. And I was laying in my bed, and I was screaming crying, which is hilarious in hindsight because, like, imagine, like, 14-year-old me, like, screaming crying. I'm gay! Ah! You know, I was like, oh, my God.

And also I was like, well, got to pick a side, have to be a lesbian. So I decided that I would call my friend at the time, and I was like, hey, I just want to let you know um I'm gay I'm a lesbian and she was like oh I'm okay cool and I was like yeah and I'm like fighting through tears but I was like I just like hated everything about that as a kid and so she was like okay so do you think you like don't like boys at all and I was like no no no i still do i still do but i'm i'm a lesbian though i'm a lesbian and she was like i don't i don't know about that and i was like nah man like gotta be one gotta pick a side gotta do it so i was like i'm a lesbian she was like i think you're bisexual i was like you're kidding and that was so intriguing to me and then yeah

that's so interesting too because i bet so many people watching and listening are like, oh, my God, I had such a similar experience. Like, this was my sexual awakening. And then all of a sudden, I remember being in my room and, like, trying to figure out how I'm going to handle this because the people around me in my life do not at all, like, accept anything other than a heterosexual relationship. Totally. How did you tell your parents and how did they react so I think like for for a really long time I thought that

I just like never like officially had like a coming out thing because I I would always say I was like I just like never really came out because I just felt so incredibly accepted and like and um fine and I actually think now after like doing like so much work in therapy and also just like growing up and living you know away from home and whatever um I was just like laughed at every time I tried to come out like I was just laughed at so then I like never really talked about it and I had always just said I was like I just was one of those people that never felt like they really had to come out and to be honest like I feel like my genuine like coming out to my family close and extended has been doing college girls because now that part of me is like on display in a very palatable way

um which I think is also like kind of fucked up in a way that I'm like yeah like now I'm like on a tv show and I'm like very publicly like out and accepted as a bisexual woman and on the show like as a gay woman and a lesbian woman now like it's like really cool for everybody and everybody's like yeah oh my god amazing I did not have that same support as a kid and so I resent it in a lot of ways it's it's still really really hard because I never like fully will believe that somebody who like treated me like that as a kid is now really accepting of it I'm like you just like it now because it's like comfortable for you and it's like something exciting that you can like romanticize around my life now if you have like a little bit of hindsight like how do you think

that affected how you like viewed your self-worth like like horribly horribly like the first year doing college girls was terrible it was terrible yeah it sucked so bad because at the time I was in a heteronormative relationship and I like hated going to work because I was like I was like I don't think I'm like good enough to be here I don't think like I can be here I don't think I can be doing this and I was like I was like maybe I'm just like trying too be here. I don't think like I can be here. I don't think I can be doing this. And I was like, I was like, maybe I'm just like trying too hard. And then I would like come home and I would psych myself out, literally. And I will never forget. Like I like sat on my like front porch and I called one of my friends and I was like,

I was like, I am straight. I was like, I think I'm just straight. I can't do this. I can't do this. And they were like, what the fuck is going on with you? And I was like, I don't know. I don't know, but I can't. And I was just like in a panic constantly. And I wasn't, but I was so freaked out by the idea of like my sexuality not being like finite or people laughing at me or like me laughing at myself that I hated the first year of filming how did you decide to take on a

character that plays a lesbian I was just so thanks man that was the cutest thing ever um I was just so excited when I got the audition too because like I felt like that was again like a part of me that I'd like only like my like, my friends really, like, knew about. Like, I was then, like, a lot more comfortable with it as I got older. But, like, I remember, like, getting that audition breakdown and being so excited. Because I'd also never been, like, submitted to audition for, like, a queer character. And I was, like, it was so exciting. And so then, like, doing the job, being such a mind fuck was like so scary because also like you know I'm like on a show that like there are a lot of men around there are a lot of men around there are a lot of gay men

around there are a lot of straight men around there are a lot of older men around me on set right so I'm going through set doing these scenes and I'm also having gay men come up to me and be like, so are you really gay? You just play? And I was like, ugh. And I know that sounds like such a little frou-frou thing, and I also understand there's an immense level of difference when it comes to people who are bisexual,

specifically also I'm a cis white woman who is bisexual right like that's also loaded in and of itself and I understand that it still really like fucking pissed me off and it made me just like second guess everything about myself and so I felt like I was to no one else's real fault except for like my like formative childhood years and myself I was beating myself up so much it's like a mind fuck for you probably to be playing a character that's struggling coming out while you're also still struggling with your sexuality and then people are like wait are you actually fucking gay it was like so crazy wow it was so crazy and i and i oh i also just like the biggest part of it was like I really like I wanted so badly to do a good job. Like not even really as an actor.

Like, yeah, that was like a part of it. But I was just like, whatever. I was like, if I'm not good at acting, they'll just fire me and that'll be easier. But like I wanted to play the role in a way that like if I saw it as a kid it would like feel good to me and so I also like wanted to do a good job so bad that I was just like so nervous all the time and yeah it was like it was like so much the first season what is your relationship now with your parents um it's like great now I think like's wild, because, like, I just turned 23, so I'm even, like, discovering, like, so much about my relationship with my family now, um, my dad is my best friend

in the whole wide world, and it's so interesting, because we, like, would go at it growing up, like, go at it, and, like, I was a fucking madhouse as a kid like I was a monster and also I was told that I was like to be clear like my family extended family friends like referred to me as like a ticking time bomb like that doesn't feel great as a kid it really doesn't um and also to be like the like girl child in the family and to be like told like you're constantly so dramatic and so emotional and to actually under the surface of all of that like have a massive anxiety disorder um was really crazy but as I love to say um I'm very close with my parents now and getting out of the house like changed a lot of it um because when I

did the whole like theater thing right like go to the art school try to win this try to win this and then try to get a job working in Mean Girls on Broadway. And I was really, really sick. Had a horrible eating disorder. And I was laying in my bed in New York. And I remember FaceTiming my parents. And I was like, I cannot go to work. I was like, I can't.

I can't do it. Like, I can't go to that place. Like, I physically cannot be there. This is scaring the shit out of me. Like, I can't I can't I can't do it like I can't go to that place like I physically cannot be there this is scaring the shit out of me like I can't do that I can't put on those costumes not after everything that's happened not after changing my costumes not after this whole thing like that was not my decision I can't I can't be there I'm a kid I'm a fucking kid my parents change their attitude from you're so dramatic to, oh, holy shit. Like there are things that are happening to you publicly and you don't have control over them. We are flying to New York and we're going to come and get you.

Wow. Yeah. I was going to say like to everyone that doesn't know the full, like the timeline of your careers like after high school you moved to New York City and you get the role as Regina George in Broadway yeah did you get an eating disorder while on Broadway I had an eating disorder starting I like now know um when I was 10 it started I was like I danced competitively my whole life and it was really like a mind fuck on me um and uh it was bad and then it like changed when i got into mean girls because it went from like a binge eating disorder to like i'm not eating at all um and it was it was it was really tough when you said they like changed your costumes like what do you mean my costumes were changed

and it was not my decision like change as in like sizing or like the actual outfit the actual outfit that i was wearing so i was in the show and i was just like more curvy than like the other girl who had done it and the other girls who had been in the role and um I was like there was a there was an outfit in the beginning or no somewhere like through the the thing um that was like a corset it's like a Halloween thing it was like a corset and like fishnets um and like no pants obviously because it's like a corset andet. And it's, like, a little da-da-da. Right? So I'm already, like, wildly insecure and, like, super uncomfortable. And then certain people came to see the show who I don't know or work with anymore. And then, like, all of a sudden I, like, got a call from somebody who worked on the show that was, like,

Hey, by the way, I just want to let you know we're sending you into these fittings. And we're just going to, like, by the way, I just want to let you know we're sending you into these fittings and we're just going to change some costumes. I'm really sorry. And I was like, really sorry? I was like, what do you mean? And they were like, yeah, I know. It's just like, you know, if it's nothing that makes you comfortable, then totally just tell us and we can just go back to the old ones.

But we're going to send you into this fitting. And so I was really confused. And so I remember calling my mom and being like, why did I just get called that, like, I'm going into another fitting? And I was like, this is kind of weird. And she was like, no, I think it's fine. And I was like, okay. So I go into the fitting, and I saw that, like, they were putting, like, a skirt over my corset and stuff. And I knew when I got in there, I was like, oh, I know what this is for. I was like oh I know what this is for I was like I know exactly

what this is and um because I could tell by the demeanor of the costumers and the people they're like we're so sorry and I was like I was like 19 years old and I was like oh fuck mind you at the time I'm already in the show and getting like horrific messages from people online that's like we didn't even want to be at the show because we saw that your like ass was hanging out and da da da da da da mind you I'm like then I'm going into interviews as a teenager and like the constant like thing that everyone is asking me is like how does it feel being like a curvy woman playing a role and da da da I, A, I'm a teenager. B, this is also wildly loaded conversation, because now you're going to say that I am a.

Bigger person, then you're also in a weird way taking up space for people who are actually like bigger bodied than mine that should actually have the nature for that conversation in the space but it was it was just like a very fucked up sort of time in my life so they changed my costumes and I went in to go do my like put in rehearsal um for the show and uh I was the only one in a costume and I like turned around and the whole cast was amazing. Like everybody like turned around and looked at me and I could see immediately on everybody's face that everybody in that fucking building had known what happened and I wanted to die because they were like, oh, holy shit. And I was like mortified. How the fuck did you get through that moment um to be honest everybody around me lied

to me and said that uh it wasn't a problem and it was a thing where they just wanted to highlight my body so it was like also nauseating but also like the weird thing was i and not weird but i didn't talk to anybody about it because it I know where this whole thing came from and it did not come from like Tina or Lauren or anybody who I love who works on that show and who I'm about to work with again like it came from nobody who I respected and loved and so it was really difficult because I was also then like really battling like being very sick and having to pull out of the show all the time because I wasn't eating at all during the day so I would get on stage and I would like be like shaking and like about to pass out

and people would be like oh she's having an anxiety attack let's pull her out for the show mind you I haven't eaten in like 24 hours it was horrible um so yeah every like I remember like people who were close to me in my life were just like I think it's just like a thing where they want to like you know highlight your curves and I was like you think I was like people who were close to me in my life were just like, I think it's just like a thing where they want to like, you know, highlight your curves. And I was like, you think? I was like, I'm pretty sure that like a grown ass man just like told me that like, I'm not a size to be wearing this on a stage. But yeah.

Right. You're like, I'm not a fucking idiot. Don't insult me. Like you're already insulting me. It was exhausting. Yeah. When you were living in New York during that time, like did you have friends in New York? Like what was your social life like?

Yeah. I had friends. I had friends, but my life like really just revolved around work. And just, you know, really revolved around like being really sick like sadly like I just would wake up and like try to not eat all day and then go to work and then like drink and go home at what point did you start to feel like you were recovering or like getting closer to accepting your body and like eating healthier like four months ago and also like never it's a really like it's a really like tough like loaded sort of conversation um because it it changed a lot because I would think that I was getting better but actually I would be getting worse but in my brain I was like it and this is such a fucked up

way of thinking but my brain was going oh you're able to eat less oh you must be like doing better because I associated that with good so it was really really hard um yeah so I feel like a couple months ago but then again again, like also like never. Yeah. Like how does it because I'm assuming like it does it negatively affect you that like you have to watch yourself on screen and like watch yourself like in videos or like is that OK? Like does that trigger you? I think so. I think I think it negatively affects me. I think what more so negatively negatively affects me are are comments not comments online like comments I receive on set those comments I don't like um and I don't mean that these are like malicious people coming for me I mean that

these are things that I've actually probably said to people in the last five years that I can't believe I've actually said that like I had somebody say to me that like this really like sent me into a fucking spiral um again they were not trying to be malicious but I was like I was like hey can I please get out of this costume like I don't feel like I can do my best work in this can I just like have some pants or something I'm really afraid today and I had already been super transparent about like I was like hey I love you I respect you so much I'm really struggling so if I ever need to change something please know it has nothing to do with your work and it's everything internally for me I just want to be really transparent about that because it'd be unfair if I didn't yeah um and they would just be like oh my god but that like looks so slimming on you

not like makes you look so slim and I'd be on set and I'd be like oh my god and I know that they were not trying to be malicious which is the hard part right because I'm like I in this moment would love to literally slap the shit out of you but I understand where you're coming from because I guarantee I've said that to someone before right you're just like can you everyone stop fixating on my body because I do it enough myself yeah so please shut the fuck up yes with regard to your music career a lot of your music is about heartbreak falling in love um getting hurt what is like the biggest heartbreak you've ever experienced the biggest heartbreak that I've ever experienced is I was like I was in a relationship and I was like very much in love with someone and I

was really uh invested and I was really also invested in myself. And that made someone in their family very uncomfortable that I was super into my career and that I didn't think my career should make anybody like feel bad. And so the fucked up part is I started hiding my successes from my partner and their family because I knew that if they found out, they were not going to be happy with me. And they were going to be like, what'd she get? I've literally gotten that comment before. And so that was the biggest heartbreak because I was like, damn,

I really made myself that much smaller for that long of a time to make a man comfortable I was like am I the antithesis of everything that I would teach my daughter or my child I was like holy shit it was crazy it's so crazy because I relate to that so heavily and I feel like we're two pretty like strong women sitting here and like when you're I can relate to that like when you're in it and when you're trying to be successful like you have to full-heartedly believe in yourself like we said even if it's delusional yeah and when you're in a relationship with someone that's trying to make you feel less than or make you feel shame for the good shit you're doing you either hide it or you essentially kind of pull back on your career to try to make this person happy but it's like wait what the fuck am i doing i had the same exact situation where i was

like i couldn't talk to him about the good things that was happening because it was like he's threatened he's jealous he's insecure and then you don't almost you feel it but you're trying to hold on to it and like micromanage like how can i make this fit 100 and then when you're out you're like what the fuck was i doing well and then the second i was out like my entire life changed like the first because also like mind you this breakup i like was i hurt absolutely but like this happened like in the weirdest way and so like i literally laughed like genuinely, genuinely. Like, I remember they were like, I just, like, I just don't know. And I literally went, I went, I was like, okay. And I hung up the phone. Bye.

And I called my manager. I was like, I just want you to know, this is going to be the greatest motherfucking year of my life. And he was like, what just happened? And I was like, oh, I just, you know, we broke up. But I was up but i was like i feel it like in my fingers i don't know how to explain this but like my entire life it now makes sense to me and my manager adam was like are you are you good and i was like honestly no i was like i'm actually not okay at all but i've never felt better to be myself yeah in my life and it actually was like very real of like the second that I did not have to make someone comfortable and like stay at

whatever level of success or um not even success like at whatever level of like hard working whatever like woman like felt like to them and felt like to their family um my entire fucking career changed and that's why this last year has been insane because I was like I'm gonna do what I've always wanted to do and what I did not allow myself to do around you and what you did not allow me to do around you and what your father didn't allow me to do around you. And I will do it incredibly well. And I will look hot as fuck. And you will exist somewhere. Misogyny is a motherfucker because even it's so,

what is such a mindfuck is I'm so incredibly like, oh my God, I would go through that entire experience 10 times over again and that heartbreak 10 times over again and that heartbreak 10 times over again and that abandonment 20 times over again to be where i am right now i don't give a fuck i was like are you kidding me i was like if i if you told me go through that again and then you will be at egott hello i'm going through it twice with two different people at the same time break up with me leave me let's do this double let's do it let's do it run it up let's do it again but but misogyny is such a mind fuck in and of the fact that i can say that right now

yet i still somewhere in the back of my mind can be like are you like stepping out of line like even as even as i'm saying that right which is crazy do some of your exes know that certain songs are about them i to be honest i think i have the kind of exes that i think they probably think every song is about them and i'm like girl actually nothing is about you funny enough i'm like you're not even on the album you're not even a thought in the project i just feel like i have that kind maybe i don't but do you ever worry though like fuck maybe i shouldn't put that in because they could think it's about them um so yes i've started to get out of it recently though like i think like i think like obviously like internet culture right accessibility is through the roof and is crazy and is amazing in a lot of ways um but i always just try to think

like would beyonce have taken it out if it came out in 2002? And like the answer is like, Beyonce Giselle Nels Calder would not have. So no, I'm not going to. Exactly. Becky with the good hair. I've only learned from her. Are you single now?

I am very happy. And I am seeing somebody that makes me, like, really happy. And I feel, like, very appreciated. And I don't feel like I've been made to feel small or, like, I need to make myself smaller to make them comfortable. Dude, that's great. I'm happy for you. Do you have a type?

Yeah, so, like, I've dated so many people in the same fucking font like if you went through like the roster for 2021 like let me fucking tell you the people the boys the girls like they all absolutely were from the same mother and father like it is crazy they're all siblings and they like i could i show you, like, where is my phone? I need this. Okay. They're all from the same mother and father. I love you.

This is one person. Which also, this is horrific. Oh, my God. This is one person. Wait, what? No, no, no, no, no, no. No, but this is one person, right? And his new girl looks like you.

Hello. Okay. And then this one looks like him. Looks like him. And then currently. They're brothers, basically. Well, they look. But then currently.

Well, currently. That also looks like them. I then. They're brothers, basically. Well, they look. But then currently. Well, currently. I. That also looks like them. I fucking knew something was happening. The minute you walked in the fucking door, I was like, are you fucking friends or are you fucking? What is happening? And I didn't want to say something.

No, no, no. I appreciate that. Oh, my God. No, I appreciate that. This makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. No, everybody. Everybody looks alike. There appreciate that. This makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. No,

everybody, everybody looks alike. There was like, very pretty. I did. Very pretty. But I did have like, I did have a phase also where I was only dating blonde women.

Like you and I absolutely would have kissed like a hundred percent. Cause that's like your character on sex life. Yes. We still can. We can. It's a whole thing. The internet's like, do it. Do it. No, but a whole thing the internet's like do it do it no but yeah partners like in the fucking room yeah do it no but yeah please but it's like i

did have a phase where it was all people why do you think that i'm i'm subliminally a method actor i never thought i would be one of those girls but i really am anything she's going through i'm going through i didn't have chlamydia. I did. Oh, rip. How has been managing fame and like friendships and relationships? Like how are you dealing with it? The coolest thing is that like I just felt so embarrassed for being so sensitive and so emotional as a kid. And now that is literally my job is to talk about how emotional and sensitive I am. And though that is sometimes

scary and I still get in my head about it um believe it or fucking not um I now have like a community of people around me that actually like celebrate that part of me which is very different from how I was viewed as a kid because I was always made fun of or called a ticking time bomb for that. And so in a weird way, fame has helped me. I guess. What a fucking L.A. sentence of me to say, but it is true. Like, it really has. And I feel very, like, supported, and I also feel very, like, okay.

Is it weird, though, though like how much attention you're getting do you do is it not phase you at all um i've always loved to make shit about myself so like i'm actually cool with it like so a family member of mine would die and that was like a performance opportunity for me like i can sing at the funeral and i did i was seven and i sang amazing grace going into the ground. Amazing Grace. Yeah. May she rest in peace. Do you ever get nervous that people are going to group you into the character that you play

on Sex Lives and not focus on who you are individually from that character? I lie awake at night. I lie awake at night. I worried about this before I even existed. Like I think about the shit all the time like I actually so like for Mean Girls like um Broadway Mean Girls not movie Mean Girls I almost did not take that job like I said no to that job a couple times because I was so scared I was like I don't want to be an actor um I also just to be like super blunt was like I'm not a good actor at the time I was like I'm a terrible actor like I'm good at like singing

but um yeah I'm always scared of that I'm oh I think about it constantly every conversation that I have is surrounding like does this put me in too much of this way because I have to be seen as this because when I'm not seen as this and I'm not seen as a musician I have a fucking panic attack how are you different than your character Leighton on sex lives of college girls so personally like I think I have pretty sick style I think Leighton has terrible style somebody said that um what was it oh somebody one time said to me in an interview and I've never been so moved by a comment ever. They were like, Leighton looks like if Nancy Reagan was a lesbian.

And I was like, bro, that is the most accurate shit I've ever heard. Because by the way, let me be so clear, that would not be a good thing. So we're very different in that way. I fucking hope. Yeah, if you ever see me wearing something that you think would be in her closet come and punch me square in the way there's a lot of like blazers and like turtlenecks a mock if that a mock a mock neck if that and not in a hot

way i yeah it's just it's just not my Yeah, it's just not my personal style. It's just not my personal style. I get that. Which also I've heard time and time again. Okay, Renee, but you're an actor on a show. Like that's kind of the whole point is like playing another character. I'm like, yeah, this is why I was not supposed to be an actor. Right.

I'm like, this isn't, I was not supposed to do this. Do you enjoy the show though? Yeah, yeah. I enjoy acting. I enjoy playing layton i enjoy like having that i enjoy like getting to be with alia who is my best friend on set every single day like imagine like you have to you have to go to work and you're on set for as many as like 18 hours and you have to be with your best friend. And so if anything goes wrong, your best friend is there with you. Because you're in the same situation.

That is a godsend. That is fucking great. I do have to wear those tweed sets though. Okay, love the show, but I fucking love your music. Thanks, dude. Congrats on the release of your new album, Everything to Everyone. Deluxe edition, which is out now. Everybody go listen yeah what is your

favorite song on the album and why my favorite song is in the kitchen me too yeah thanks man thanks my favorite song is in the kitchen um so i started the song in february of 2021 and i was in my house and i was just like at my piano and I started just like playing and I was like basically I was just like getting told a lot that like I wasn't writing deep enough and as I'm sure you've seen I'm quite feisty so I was like yeah so let me fucking go there then like you want it here another one of my favorite songs is too well thanks and I was just wondering yeah are you down to perform today? I would be incredibly happy to perform today. Let's do it.

Okay. I'm going to listen here. This is, for the record, our first time ever playing this song. Yeah. Tell me when I am allowed to begin speaking. You begin whenever you want to begin. Okay. Hey, Daddy. Hi.

So here's the thing. We'll do too well. Okay. For you. Yeah, thank do too well for you only for you um yeah let's uh too well let's run it up go girl The day I woke up in a good mood for once The first time in six months I don't hate you as much You weren't there in my dreams I could finally sleep It felt good but it sucks

I don't hate you as much It's easier holding a grudge I'd rather be angry than crushed I'm doing too much i'm back where i started again crying and calling my friends this shit never ends i get so sick of myself can't stop overthinking i heard you're happy somewhere else But I don't forget too well I get so sick of myself

Can't stop reminiscing I heard you're happy somewhere else But I don't forget too well i still see your face i hate hearing your name what a wreck what a shame i'm replaying that day you called me at eight two weeks on a break just to ask for more space you're my biggest mistake It's easier holding a grudge I'd rather be angry than crushed I'm doing too much I'm back where I started again

Crying and calling my friends This shit never ends I get so sick of myself Can't stop overthinking I heard you're happy somewhere else but I don't forget too well

I get so sick of myself can't stop reminiscing I heard you're happy somewhere else but I don't forget to ask. I get so sick of myself, can't stop overthinking. I heard you're happy somewhere else, but I'm with Alex Cooper on Call Her Daddy,

and I don't give a fuck where the fuck you are, motherfucker. This is amazing. Yeah. Okay. Okay, fine. Are we ready? Right. I'm good.

Whenever you guys are ready. Okay. This is Bruises. I don't know if you even know why this song is written and I will reveal myself right now. Please. So Bruises, obviously I will do it, but it's a very sentimental song about feeling like all my friends make fun of me.

The origin story of Bruises, babe, I'm so sorry. The origin story of Bruises is because I was seeing this girl, and I was staying in my friend Thomas's apartment in New York and I basically said to Thomas I was like guess what I did and he was like what and I was like I fucked her on your couch but I thought you got to understand that I didn't go to college so I thought I was like oh this is gonna be like a bonding moment like you know if like your friends are like in college like if my friend came to me and was like I

Like had sex with this person on your couch. I'd be like Tell me how it went that it was like wasn't received that way which I now get in hindsight like that's super weird But I just I don't know I was like I hadn't seen a girl in a while either and so I was just so excited I was like ah I was like this is so cute and um they didn't think that was like funny or cute and I get that I really do get it and so I wrote bruises I know no no so they were making fun of me that night. And they were like, Renee, apologize to Thomas. And I was like, guys, what? I was like, apologize for what?

And they were like, for having sex on his couch. And then saying it in like a confident manner. And I was like, you guys are so mean to me. And I was like, my friends just, they just make so much fun of me. And that's why i wrote bruises i spent 22 years of my life trying not to freak out trying not to be needy I go through six different moods at a time I'm happy then losing my mind Quick transition to crazy

It's not fair I've got acetone for veins I'm so sensitive Just one touch and I feel pain All my friends make sweet fun of me I guess it's funny, but the truth's I bruise easily And sure, I'm down to be the joke Metaphorically though, you could flip me inside out and they would show

Black, purple, and green Yeah, I bruise easily I've spent 365 days and 52 weeks in my brain Going over the same thing that girl said when we was in fourth grade I take everything personally I've always hated that about me I've tried to be cool and chill but it's not fair I've got acetone for veins I'm so sensitive just one touch and I feel pain All my friends make sweet fun of me I guess it's funny

But the truth's I bruise easily And sure I'm down to be the joke Metaphorically though You could flip me inside out And they would show Black, purple, and green Yeah, I bruise easily I bruise, I bruise easily

Black, purple, and green You hurt me, oh I bruise, I bruise easily Please don't fucking swing it It hurts me, my friends make sweet fun of me But the truth's I bruise easily And sure, I'm down to be the joke Metaphorically though

You could fit me inside out And they would show Black, purple, and green Yeah, I bruise easily Fuck, yay! Renee, what the fuck thanks dude you are so fucking talented i cannot thank you enough for coming on call her daddy the world is gonna lose their shit but i was the first one to lose my shit because it's an honor to have you on the show this is the most fun thing i've done in 25

years and i'm 23 stop this is the best i love you best. I love you. Thank you. Dude, thank you. I love you so much. Thank you, princess. Thank you.